Re: OT: Meanwhile at TOP.

[John]

On 1/3/2016 10:31 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I'll report so you don't have to actually visit.

FUJI has a new 90mm lens. It's very sharp.  Mike Johnston doesn't see
any point to it.  The rest is just dressing to justify his feelings.
That is all.




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Re: Another loss

[John]

Sorry for your loss. I hope the pain will ease with time.

On 1/2/2016 10:28 PM, John Coyle wrote:

For those who remember my earlier mentions of her, my daughter died this 
morning Australian time,
after a comparatively short battle with cancer, at the age of 53.
Fortunately, although we have lived in different countries since she was 18, I 
was able to see her
in November of this year, but the pain is still felt.



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Re: Another loss

[Bulent Celasun]

I just can not imagine the magnitude of your pain.

And, she was younger then many, if not most, members of our list.

My condolences...

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2016-01-03 5:28 GMT+02:00 John Coyle :
> For those who remember my earlier mentions of her, my daughter died this 
> morning Australian time,
> after a comparatively short battle with cancer, at the age of 53.
> Fortunately, although we have lived in different countries since she was 18, 
> I was able to see her
> in November of this year, but the pain is still felt.
>
>
>
> John in Brisbane
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Re: PESO 2016 - copying Minox negatives - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I loved my old Minox!  What a special camera that was.

When I was in the Marine Corps, I carried it with me at all times,
especially in the airplane.  When I returned from my overseas
deployment, the friends I left behind insisted that I leave them three
of my precious possessions:  my guitar, my tiny Christmas tree and my
Minox.

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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 1:49 AM, John  wrote:
> You could probably adapt an old enlarger stand in place of the tripod.
>
> On 1/3/2016 7:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> I posted an article on the GetDPI forum today showing the result of
>> using a Leica SL copy setup to capture Minox 8x11 mm negatives. It
>> produces the best quality digital capture of a Minox negative I've
>> achieved yet. The setup and a couple of negatives captures are
>> available at:
>>
>> http://www.getdpi.com/forum/leica/57279-leica-sl-minox-negative-copy.html
>>
>>  The finished, full resolution image is 3700 x 5093 pixels in size,
>> or about 18 Mpixels—plenty of leeway there for making high quality
>> prints.
>>
>> enjoy, G
>>
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Re: PESO ~ Sinews

[Jack Davis]

 Striking pose, Bruce!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:54 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Another b of dancer Rachel Cornejo.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/24182314865/in/album-72157660648703824/lightbox/
> 
> 645z, DFA645 90mm f:2.8 Macro, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.
> 
> Socked 22" beauty dish boomed on-axis with camera, above.
> Two tall strip softboxes left and right.
> 
> Model, makeup: Rachel Cornejo IG @rachel.ann.elizabeth
> Hair: Louise Peacock
> Assistant: Anique Alletson
> Photo, retouch: Bruce Walker IG @bruce.walker
> 
> Comment away! :)
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Re: PESO ~ Form and light #1

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks for commenting, Frank. Interesting how this image is polarizing
opinion fairly strongly.

I posted that rope shot just now; title Sinews.

And thank you Ann, Jack, Igor and Paul. Appreciate the feedback!


On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:44 PM, knarf  wrote:
> This just doesn't feel like it's coming together for me. Can't really say 
> why, it's just not cohesive, not flowing, something's just not right to my 
> eye.
>
> Unlike Ann, this is my least favorite of your shots of Rachel posted on 
> Flickr.
>
> The other photos of her, on the other hand, are spectacular. I like the rope 
> one...   :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On January 2, 2016 4:34:55 PM EST, Bruce Walker  
> wrote:
>>First peso for 2016 and it's a b Weird! :)
>>
>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/24050939061/lightbox/
>>
>>Model is Rachel Cornejo, a dancer (ballet and jazz), fitness
>>instructor, actor and model.
>>
>>645z, DFA645 90mm f:2.8 Macro, f:4, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.
>>
>>One tall strip softbox left.
>>
>>Comments and critique welcome.
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Re: OT: Meanwhile at TOP.

[David Parsons]

No, he's saying that it's a focal length that not many people actually
use despite being a fairly easy focal length to make really well.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 10:31 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> I'll report so you don't have to actually visit.
>
> FUJI has a new 90mm lens. It's very sharp.  Mike Johnston doesn't see any
> point to it.  The rest is just dressing to justify his feelings.  That is
> all.
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Re: 2016 PDML PHOTO ANNUAL UPLOAD IS LIVE!

[Jack Davis]

Mark.
Is the information as to Annual print offerings received to date, 
available...yet?
Thanks...for so much!

J

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Re: PESO 2016 - 003 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

:-)

Thanks, Jack. 

G


> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:22 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Well! I must say! Partially obscuring the American flag is pretty 
> unpatriotic! 
> OK...I'll allow  this once.
> 
> J
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
> To: "PAW Picture-A-Week project" , "PDML" , 
> "SeePhoto Talk" , "BAPhotoShooters BAPA" 
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 6:56:11 AM
> Subject: PESO 2016 - 003 - GDG
> 
> Back to the air museum. Hmm. I need to do some more air museum photos. 
> Perhaps at Hiller next, up near San Mateo from me …?
> 
>  https://flic.kr/p/CPsndA
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Re: Pentax marketing: Really crappy sample images of Limited lenses

[Rick Womer]

What is this word you say... marketing???
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> So what you're saying is that Ricoh is following the fine tradition of
> Pentax marketing.
>
> On 1/4/2016 11:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> I preface this by saying that if I had to choose between a company
>> that had crappy marketing and superb engineering vs a company that had
>> superb marketing and crappy engineering I would certainly take the
>> former... but I continue to be amazed at how poor the Ricoh/Pentax
>> marketing is. Case in point:
>>
>> Here is a page with 4 Limited lenses. Take a look at the Sample Images
>> shown for each of the 4 lenses:
>> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens_cmp2/page04.html
>> (the link goes to the 70mm f/2.4, but you can change the URL to
>> page03, page02, page01 (or simply click the link for the other lenses
>> on the page). All are uniformly BLAH.
>>
>> A better way to judge what a lens can do is to go to the Pentax Photo
>> Gallery and click the "Cameras and Lenses" link in the upper right
>> hand corner. Select the lens you want to look at (ignore the cameras,
>> unless you want to limit your search to a particular body) and click
>> the GO button.
>>
>> The images of the lenses themselves on the page are gorgeous. The
>> sample images? Not so much.
>>
>>
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Re: OT: Meanwhile at TOP.

[P.J. Alling]

No, he's saying he doesn't like that focal length so there's no real 
reason to make it.  Everything else is window dressing.


First off, Fuji is producing a very nice system of "retro" cameras. I 
expect that they will sell enough of that lens to justify manufacturing 
them.


Secondly, well, Mike Johnson.  He's just annoying.  He's a decent 
writer, is generally knowledgeable, and when he actually posts a photo 
he's made, it doesn't hurt the eyes, (unlike Kennyboy), but his opinions 
are his own, and he often mistakes them for fact, and like Kennyboy he 
expects to be paid for said opinions.


I never used a 135mm in the good ol' days of film, my first real 
telephoto was a Super Takumar 150mm f4.0.


But the e~135mm focal length grows on you.  (Like a fungus).  Now when I 
don't want to carry a big kit I carry 24mm, (~35mm), 43mm, (~58mm*), and 
85mm (~135mm**).  Gasp, that's a lot like what a lot of people started 
out with from the 1960s thru 1980s.  Those focal lengths just work for 
general photography.  The old timers who recommended them as a starter 
kit actually seem to have known something.



*I know the 43mm is quite a bit longer than the equivelent of 58mm, but 
I defy anyone to tell the difference between a photo taken with the 43mm 
or a 35mm lens on an APS-C camera without a direct comparison taken from 
exactly the same spot.


**Sure it's really e~130mm but once again see the * note above.

On 1/5/2016 8:56 AM, David Parsons wrote:

No, he's saying that it's a focal length that not many people actually
use despite being a fairly easy focal length to make really well.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 10:31 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

I'll report so you don't have to actually visit.

FUJI has a new 90mm lens. It's very sharp.  Mike Johnston doesn't see any
point to it.  The rest is just dressing to justify his feelings.  That is
all.


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Re: OT - Q: how to link eBay account with Paypal?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I've had a checking account linked to Paypal for 18 years and have never had 
any problems with it. For safety and security, it's an account separate from my 
main savings/checking repository, at a different bank, but that doesn't mean 
there isn't a sizable sum of money in it. It's my daily use checking account. 

Having a linked bank account with Paypal nets useful benefits and savings. 
Since they split with EBay, I have not done any linking between them; I prefer 
to keep it separate. 

G

> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> I spent some time on Paypal looking into that possibility. They don't
> even acknowledge eBay's existence. But I can link my personal bank
> account if I wanted to. Yeah, right! Like I'm going to trust these
> monkeys with unfettered access to my money. Heh.

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Re: PESO 2016 - 003 - GDG

[Jack Davis]

Well! I must say! Partially obscuring the American flag is pretty unpatriotic! 
OK...I'll allow  this once.

J


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Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 6:56:11 AM
Subject: PESO 2016 - 003 - GDG

Back to the air museum. Hmm. I need to do some more air museum photos. Perhaps 
at Hiller next, up near San Mateo from me …?

  https://flic.kr/p/CPsndA

enjoy! 

G

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Daniel J. Matyola]

BLASPHEMY!

There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to be
sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.

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On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Bill  wrote:
> My father used to make a fudge like candy that was pretty much just brown
> sugar, milk and some butter.
> He would put a little vanilla extract into it from time to time, but that
> was a rare occasion, generally because he wasn't using a dark sugar.
> One of the little stocking stuffer gifts my wife gave me for Christmas was
> some fudge candies from Scotland made by the distillery Edradour. They use a
> small amount of their Scotch as a flavoring.
> I decided I needed to try making this myself, so, remembering vaguely what
> the proportions were supposed to be (3 parts brown sugar, 1 part milk, and a
> blob of butter cooked to soft ball stage and then whipped after cooling to
> the point it was warm but not hot) I set out on a culinary experiment.
> I didn't have any Edradour, but I did have some Aberfeldy, and some quick
> math told me that 3/4 of a teaspoon was about what I wanted.
> And boy was I right.
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Re: OT: Meanwhile at TOP.

[Mark Roberts]

David Parsons wrote:

>No, he's saying that it's a focal length that not many people actually
>use despite being a fairly easy focal length to make really well.

And he's saying it on his own blog which no one is actually obligated
to read if they don't want to.

>On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 10:31 AM, P.J. Alling  
>wrote:
>> I'll report so you don't have to actually visit.
>>
>> FUJI has a new 90mm lens. It's very sharp.  Mike Johnston doesn't see any
>> point to it.  The rest is just dressing to justify his feelings.  That is
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PESO 2016 - 003 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Back to the air museum. Hmm. I need to do some more air museum photos. Perhaps 
at Hiller next, up near San Mateo from me …?

  https://flic.kr/p/CPsndA

enjoy! 

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Re: OT - Q: how to link eBay account with Paypal?

[Bruce Walker]

That's encouraging, Ann. From experience I generally assume that phone
help is going to be pretty useless and a huge waste of time spent on
hold, so I don't go there.

Honestly though, based on having found hundreds of forum messages from
folks in the same boat, I'm going to just buy the lens I want from
another seller, North American based, who doesn't have this linked
restriction. It will cost me a bit more, but I think the source is a
lower risk anyway.

Looks like the eBay/Paypal split has created unresolved technical
issues. I'll just avoid this.

Thanks!

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:10 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> oy
> have you tried actually talking to someone at ebay? -- when I go to "helP"
> and am patient I eventually get the phone image and call
> most of the time I actually do get help
>
> ann
>
>
> On 1/4/2016 9:39 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> That's the trouble though, Ann. During checkout with this one seller I
>> get a message that he has set the requirement that the accounts be
>> linked, and it cancels the transaction. I cannot purchase from this
>> guy unless I can link my Paypal with my eBay account.
>>
>> I have an existing Paypal account; have had since the mid 2000's. I'm
>> sure it was linked up until eBay and Paypal split up.
>>
>> And yes the Link With Paypal button is there, but when I use it I get
>> logged into Paypal, it tells me that the process is almost complete
>> and to click another button to go back to eBay, then nothing happens.
>> Not linked.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:04 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have kept my ebay and paypal accounts separate - never had any problem.
>>> But yes, set up a paypal account for starters...
>>>
>>> Then "link with paypal" thing willlikely show up.  DOn't know if ebay
>>> Canada
>>> works differently...
>>> They are always nagging me to link and I've refused... but when I've
>>> bought
>>> things from people with
>>> a paypal button it always is fine.
>>>
>>> hope this helps
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2016 8:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Do you have a paypal account? Setting that up is the first step.

 Paul via phone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
>
> I know that there are lots of savvy eBay and Paypal folks on the list,
> and there must be a fix for this stupid problem.
>
> I'm trying to buy a lens from an eBay buyer who has stipulated that he
> only sells to customers with a linked eBay/Paypal. So I go into my
> eBay account settings, click "Link with Paypal", follow the prompts,
> and ... nothing. Nothing except another browser tab open on eBay that
> is. Account remains stubbornly unlinked. Support info is useless.
> Forum is useless. Have tried three different browsers.
>
> Anyone here been faced with this and got past it? Apparently sellers
> can't collect if their account isn't linked to Paypal so it's a real
> issue.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Larry Colen]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

BLASPHEMY!

There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to be
sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.


You have obviously never tried our homemade Lagavulin ice cream.


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Looking back at very difficult year

[Boris Liberman]

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in 
my life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a 
contract for our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac 
arrest. It was unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very 
painful for my mother, my brother and myself.


Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very 
fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is 
possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close, 
especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could 
regain most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has 
changed a lot.


As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people 
of whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could 
happen. Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his 
mother passed away, he followed...


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Re: PESO - A Rainy Day's Walk

[P.J. Alling]

Looks like a nice condition late 60's vintage Volkswagen.

On 1/5/2016 1:24 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

In color.

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/a-rainy-days-walk/

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Re: 2016 PDML PHOTO ANNUAL UPLOAD IS LIVE!

[Jack Davis]

Thanks again, Mark!
J


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Mark.
Is the information as to Annual print offerings received to date, 
available...yet?
Thanks...for so much!

J

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Upload three of your best shots at:
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Thanks and happy new year!
 
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PESO - A Rainy Day's Walk

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In color.

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/a-rainy-days-walk/

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[John Francis]

On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 10:11:35AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >BLASPHEMY!
> >
> >There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to be
> >sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.
> 
> You have obviously never tried our homemade Lagavulin ice cream.


It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" - 
that is uniformly excellent across the entire spectrum.

As Larry can attest, I've got a fair few excellent examples on my shelves.
Amongst those I've also got several bottles that I don't personally like,
but this is basically a matter of style, not of quality.  Even among the
ones that fall into my favourite taste bracket (the lighter Speyside malts,
for example, not the heavily peat-flavoured Islay brands) there is a great
difference between, say, a bottle of Glenfiddich (which I no longer keep)
and the bottle of Glenmorangie 1971 single-vintage we treated ourselves to
as a house-warming present 20 years ago (and which still tastes wonderful).


On the other hand, I've also encountered a couple of examples over the years
where I felt that the only real use of the liquid in question would be as
paint stripper or drain cleaner.  And whereas most of the objectionable
qualities would probably be negated (or at least masked) if they were used
as ingredients, I prefer to err on the safe side, and follow Julia Child's
maxim:  If you wouldn't drink it, you shouldn't be cooking with it!


P.S. I'd be happy to provide an objective viewpoint on Larry's ice cream...

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Re: OT: Meanwhile at TOP.

[P.J. Alling]

His reaction would certainly cheer me up.

On 1/5/2016 1:53 AM, John wrote:

On 1/3/2016 10:31 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I'll report so you don't have to actually visit.

FUJI has a new 90mm lens. It's very sharp.  Mike Johnston doesn't see
any point to it.  The rest is just dressing to justify his feelings.
That is all.




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Re: Pentax marketing: Really crappy sample images of Limited lenses

[P.J. Alling]

So what you're saying is that Ricoh is following the fine tradition of 
Pentax marketing.


On 1/4/2016 11:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

I preface this by saying that if I had to choose between a company
that had crappy marketing and superb engineering vs a company that had
superb marketing and crappy engineering I would certainly take the
former... but I continue to be amazed at how poor the Ricoh/Pentax
marketing is. Case in point:

Here is a page with 4 Limited lenses. Take a look at the Sample Images
shown for each of the 4 lenses:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens_cmp2/page04.html
(the link goes to the 70mm f/2.4, but you can change the URL to
page03, page02, page01 (or simply click the link for the other lenses
on the page). All are uniformly BLAH.

A better way to judge what a lens can do is to go to the Pentax Photo
Gallery and click the "Cameras and Lenses" link in the upper right
hand corner. Select the lens you want to look at (ignore the cameras,
unless you want to limit your search to a particular body) and click
the GO button.

The images of the lenses themselves on the page are gorgeous. The
sample images? Not so much.





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Re: OT - Q: how to link eBay account with Paypal?

[Bruce Walker]

I spent some time on Paypal looking into that possibility. They don't
even acknowledge eBay's existence. But I can link my personal bank
account if I wanted to. Yeah, right! Like I'm going to trust these
monkeys with unfettered access to my money. Heh.


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:07 AM, John  wrote:
> I know absolutely about it, but I wonder do you have to do anything from
> the Paypal end to get them to link?
>
> On 1/4/2016 8:46 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> I do have a Paypal account. And there's a series of steps for linking
>> that. But when I follow them, I end up back on eBay on the Paypal
>> Account page, but no linking has occurred. It's circular.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have a paypal account? Setting that up is the first step.
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
 On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

 I know that there are lots of savvy eBay and Paypal folks on the list,
 and there must be a fix for this stupid problem.

 I'm trying to buy a lens from an eBay buyer who has stipulated that he
 only sells to customers with a linked eBay/Paypal. So I go into my
 eBay account settings, click "Link with Paypal", follow the prompts,
 and ... nothing. Nothing except another browser tab open on eBay that
 is. Account remains stubbornly unlinked. Support info is useless.
 Forum is useless. Have tried three different browsers.

 Anyone here been faced with this and got past it? Apparently sellers
 can't collect if their account isn't linked to Paypal so it's a real
 issue.

 Thanks!

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PESO ~ Sinews

[Bruce Walker]

Another b of dancer Rachel Cornejo.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/24182314865/in/album-72157660648703824/lightbox/

645z, DFA645 90mm f:2.8 Macro, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.

Socked 22" beauty dish boomed on-axis with camera, above.
Two tall strip softboxes left and right.

Model, makeup: Rachel Cornejo IG @rachel.ann.elizabeth
Hair: Louise Peacock
Assistant: Anique Alletson
Photo, retouch: Bruce Walker IG @bruce.walker

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Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

[Larry Colen]

It looks like I might be taking a trip to the UK with Zab sometime in 
the next few months.  If you would like the opportunity to see me in 
person, drop me a note off-list with time/space coordinates of your 
availability.  It's all in the very rough planning stages right now.


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Re: PESO 2016 - 003 - GDG

[Bob W-PDML]

Nice cockpit.

B

> On 5 Jan 2016, at 14:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Back to the air museum. Hmm. I need to do some more air museum photos. 
> Perhaps at Hiller next, up near San Mateo from me …?
> 
>  https://flic.kr/p/CPsndA
> 
> enjoy! 
> 
> G
> 
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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Bulent Celasun]

Hi Boris,

Just wanted to say that "time", more than anything else, helps healing
our wounds.
All of them. A little or totally...

And 2016 is time. Some more time...



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2016-01-05 21:20 GMT+02:00 Boris Liberman :
> Hello.
>
> It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my
> life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a contract for
> our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac arrest. It was
> unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very painful for my
> mother, my brother and myself.
>
> Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very
> fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is
> possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close,
> especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could
> regain most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a
> lot.
>
> As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former
> class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people of
> whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could happen.
> Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his mother passed
> away, he followed...
>
> Boris
>
>
>
>
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OT: Top "Pictures of the Day" for 2015

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://twistedsifter.com/2016/01/the-top-100-pictures-of-the-day-for-2015/?utm_source=feedburner_medium=feed_campaign=Feed%3A+Twistedsifter+%28TwistedSifter+%29

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Re: PESO - A Rainy Day's Walk

[ann sanfedele]

Fascinating tease of a photo - lots of stories hidden there .. maybe a 
bit of gallows humor

and, um, nice geometry :-)

Happy New Year, Bulent
ann

On 1/5/2016 1:24 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

In color.

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/a-rainy-days-walk/

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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[J.C. O'Connell]

My dad passed in Nov of 2013 and I still haven't recovered, time does 
make it a little easier though.

jco

On 1/6/2016 12:23 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Thank you, Paul.

I am trying very hard not to dwell too much into misery and I may even 
have some minor "successes" every now and then, but the wound is still 
quite fresh...


/deep sigh/

On 1/6/2016 2:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Hi Boris.
So sorry to hear of your loss. Keep your family close and remember 
the good times. The pain won't go away any time soon, but you can 
begin to fill the void with love and warmth.

Paul



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Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2016 05:20
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Subject: Looking back at very difficult year

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult 
year in my life so far. Back in
March, just a few days after we signed a contract for our own 
apartment, my father passed away from
cardiac arrest. It was unexpected, it was very quick, it wash 
shocking and very painful for my

mother, my brother and myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still 
very fresh. And to some of you I
owe great debt now. I don't think that it is possible to fully 
recover from the death of someone
dear and close, especially from the closest family. At least, as 
time goes by, I could regain most

of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, 
former class-mate from my school in
Moscow also died. He was among the people of whom I wouldn't even 
dare think that something like
this could happen. Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks 
after his mother passed away, he

followed...

Boris





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Re: A great use for good Scotch

[Alan C]

I was thinking more along the lines of whisky flavoured Coke rather than 
whisky drowned in Coke.


Never tried "substances". They have a terrible concoction here in the 
townships called Nyope. Esssentailly dagga (cannabis) + tik (amphetamine) 
but a trace of coke (the white powder) is added for good measure. Now there 
are thousands of unsuspecting coke addicts who are turning to crime on a 
large scale to feed their habit.


Alan C

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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Alan C  wrote:


Have you tried Coke?


Yes, quite often, especially Coke Zero, but never with Scotch!

[Or did you mean the white powder, in which case, no, have you?]


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Re: A great use for good Scotch

[Alan C]

Well, you taught me something there. I've seen people with a long nail on 
their pinkie (for whatever reason) but hadn't heard that terminology before.


Alan C

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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Alan C  wrote:

Have you tried Coke?


Apparently you haven't noticed Daniel has a coke nail to rival Carrie
Fisher's. Or maybe that is just to scratch his inner ear.
(I'm kidding of course. I have no idea what Daniel's hands look like).


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Re: Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

LOL!

That's not the way I've phrased it...
"Yo! Cotty, Bob!  I'll be there in five hours. Are you available for a pint? 
I'll buy!"

Seems to work pretty well. :-)

G

> On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Try this, Larry:
> 
> "Good evening,
> 
> Mr Larry Colen humbly and obsequiously requests the honour* of meeting the 
> most honorable Messrs Robert Walden and Stephen Cottrell. He hopes to place 
> his unworthy colonial boots on the sacred soil of the Mother Country in the 
> coming few months, and dares to hope that he is worthy of such an audience.
> 
> Groveling at their feet, God Save the Queen, pip-pip and all that,
> 
> Yours sincerely, etc."
> 
> *(note spelling: it's important)
> 
> Those Brits are touchy sorts. You need to be careful.
> 
> Cheers and tally-ho,
> 
> Rick

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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Boris Liberman]

Thank you, John.

Yes, I hear you perfectly. This hasn't been an easy year, at all...

On 1/6/2016 2:10, John Coyle wrote:

Hi Boris - 2015 must have been one of the worst years of your life: please take 
comfort from your
beautiful family being around you, as I have in the last few days.


John in Brisbane




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Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my 
life so far. Back in
March, just a few days after we signed a contract for our own apartment, my 
father passed away from
cardiac arrest. It was unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very 
painful for my
mother, my brother and myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very fresh. 
And to some of you I
owe great debt now. I don't think that it is possible to fully recover from the 
death of someone
dear and close, especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, 
I could regain most
of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
class-mate from my school in
Moscow also died. He was among the people of whom I wouldn't even dare think 
that something like
this could happen. Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his 
mother passed away, he
followed...

Boris





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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Boris Liberman]

Thank you, Carlos.

Almost a year passed since March, when it all happened, so I can feel 
the healing effects of time, to some extent... I need more time, that's 
for sure.



On 1/6/2016 0:47, Carlos R. wrote:
I am sorry for that, Boris. My father also died in the same way when I 
was very young (23) and living abroad at that time. Time will heal 
your wounds for sure, but it is a slow process. Be patient and strong, 
and enjoy your life as much as you can.


Carlos


El 05/01/2016 a las 20:20, Boris Liberman escribió:

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in
my life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a
contract for our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac
arrest. It was unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very
painful for my mother, my brother and myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very
fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is
possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close,
especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could
regain most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has
changed a lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former
class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people
of whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could
happen. Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his
mother passed away, he followed...

Boris











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Re: Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 06 January 2016 at 01:20 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Try this, Larry:
> 
> "Good evening,
> 
> Mr Larry Colen humbly and obsequiously requests the honour* of meeting the
> most honorable Messrs Robert Walden and Stephen Cottrell. He hopes to place
> his unworthy colonial boots on the sacred soil of the Mother Country in the
> coming few months, and dares to hope that he is worthy of such an audience.
> 
> Groveling at their feet, God Save the Queen, pip-pip and all that,
> 
> Yours sincerely, etc."
> 
> *(note spelling: it's important)

Indeed.  A very good place to start with that is spelling peoples' names
correctly.
Very best wishes,
Wislon.

> 
> Those Brits are touchy sorts. You need to be careful.
> 
> Cheers and tally-ho,
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
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> 
> > On 5/1/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> >> It looks like I might be taking a trip to the UK with Zab sometime in 
> >> the next few months.  If you would like the opportunity to see me in 
> >> person, drop me a note off-list with time/space coordinates of your 
> >> availability.
> > 
> > I don't think you've quite got that hang of visiting the Brits. What you
> > wrote up there? The other way round matey ;-)
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Re: A great use for good Scotch

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>
> Have you tried Coke?

Yes, quite often, especially Coke Zero, but never with Scotch!

[Or did you mean the white powder, in which case, no, have you?]


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Re: PESO ~ Sinews

[knarf]

Wow!

I love this. A great portrayal of sexy (without being sexist) , feminine 
strength. Quite enticing, the way the rope coils around her feet. 

Terrific! 

Cheers,

frank

On January 5, 2016 10:54:46 AM EST, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>Another b of dancer Rachel Cornejo.
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/24182314865/in/album-72157660648703824/lightbox/
>
>645z, DFA645 90mm f:2.8 Macro, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.
>
>Socked 22" beauty dish boomed on-axis with camera, above.
>Two tall strip softboxes left and right.
>
>Model, makeup: Rachel Cornejo IG @rachel.ann.elizabeth
>Hair: Louise Peacock
>Assistant: Anique Alletson
>Photo, retouch: Bruce Walker IG @bruce.walker
>
>Comment away! :)

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Boris 2016 #02 - Etude

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Somehow the weather, the music and the photo fit together...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/01/2016-02-etude.html

In case you don't read the blogpost itself, but only look at the picture 
- I've decided to start a new kind of ongoing project. I would suggest a 
music to listen to while looking at my photos. I often do it myself 
during editing or even simply when I look at photographs.


For this photo I suggest: "Now We Are Free", by Hans Zimmer and Lisa 
Gerrard from "Gladiator" movie soundtrack.


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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Bill]

On 1/5/2016 6:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Bill  wrote:

That would involve buying a bottle of lesser whisky. As good little
consumers we should not be enabling mediocrity.


There are a few blendeds that are a bit above "mediocre."



They seem nearly as dear as a decent single malt.
For the teaspoon of whisky that goes into a batch of fudge, I'm thinking 
a little blasphemy goes a long way.



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Re: A great use for good Scotch

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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:48 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Apparently you haven't noticed Daniel has a coke nail to rival Carrie
> Fisher's.

When I was brushing up on the guitar, I let the nails grow on my right
hand, and cut them very short on my left hand.  Thank produced lots of
jokes in that vein.  [pun intended.]

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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Boris Liberman]

Thank you, Paul.

I am trying very hard not to dwell too much into misery and I may even 
have some minor "successes" every now and then, but the wound is still 
quite fresh...


/deep sigh/

On 1/6/2016 2:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Hi Boris.
So sorry to hear of your loss. Keep your family close and remember the good 
times. The pain won't go away any time soon, but you can begin to fill the void 
with love and warmth.
Paul



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Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my 
life so far. Back in
March, just a few days after we signed a contract for our own apartment, my 
father passed away from
cardiac arrest. It was unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very 
painful for my
mother, my brother and myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very fresh. 
And to some of you I
owe great debt now. I don't think that it is possible to fully recover from the 
death of someone
dear and close, especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, 
I could regain most
of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
class-mate from my school in
Moscow also died. He was among the people of whom I wouldn't even dare think 
that something like
this could happen. Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his 
mother passed away, he
followed...

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Re: Boris 2016 #02 - Etude

[ann sanfedele]

I would chose "the Hall of the Mountain King" :-)

Nice shot, Boris  and I hope this year is vastly better than last for you

ann

On 1/6/2016 12:16 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

Somehow the weather, the music and the photo fit together...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/01/2016-02-etude.html

In case you don't read the blogpost itself, but only look at the 
picture - I've decided to start a new kind of ongoing project. I would 
suggest a music to listen to while looking at my photos. I often do it 
myself during editing or even simply when I look at photographs.


For this photo I suggest: "Now We Are Free", by Hans Zimmer and Lisa 
Gerrard from "Gladiator" movie soundtrack.


Boris






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Re: Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/1/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I'll buy!"

Nailed it.

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Darren Addy]

I have to agree with Daniel's sentiments (below). I thought that
Lagavulin neat tasted pretty much like melted styrofoam smells. I
didn't get the appeal/reputation. But while at an amateur astronomer
acquaintances I had the same stuff with a splash of distilled water.
WOW what a difference! I'm no scotch expert, by any means, but I enjoy
the Macallen 15-year straight, but it is a completely different beast
than the peaty north coast scotches.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bill  wrote:
>> Scotch should be diluted with water,
>
> Like many, I am convinced that a bit of water is needed to "open up" a
> fine single malt.  I prefer just a "splash."  I respect those who
> prefer it neat, and also those who prefer a lot more water.  Every
> scotch drinker should follow his own palate.  I think that ice,
> however, kill the subtleties of a good scotch, and mixers defeat the
> purpose of paying for a fine single malt.
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Re: PESOs - Deer Hunting in Michigan

[knarf]

Wonderful captures, Paul. A very successful outing.

Cheers,

frank

On January 4, 2016 7:49:00 PM EST, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>Paul,
>
>I especially like the interaction in the last one. That what makes it 
>different from many other photos of deers.
>
>
>And in view of what Alan wrote, it's funny that the face of the one in
>the 
>2nd photo looks like that of a shaved alpaca or llama.
>
>Igor
>
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18152625=lg
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18152624=lg
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18152623=lg
>>

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I'm a fan of the peaty Islays. Laphroig 10 is my favorite.

A man after my own heart -- and palate.

For variety, I rotate among Laphroiag, Lagavulin and Ardbeg.  Each is
quite different but equally pleasing.
Lagavulin 16 is what I have before me right now.

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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Boris Liberman]

Thank you, Jack. Tough year indeed...



On 1/5/2016 22:38, Jack Davis wrote:

Tough year, Boris. Am honored you
chose to share and extent my sincerest sympathies.
Here's to a hopeful 2016!

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my 
life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a contract for our 
own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac arrest. It was unexpected, it 
was very quick, it wash shocking and very painful for my mother, my brother and 
myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very fresh. 
And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is possible to 
fully recover from the death of someone dear and close, especially from the 
closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could regain most of my self, 
although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people of whom 
I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could happen. Apparently, 
he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his mother passed away, he 
followed...

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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Boris Liberman]

Bulent, thank you so much for your wise and soothing words... It is just 
that time goes on so slowly for me these days...


On 1/5/2016 22:45, Bulent Celasun wrote:

Hi Boris,

Just wanted to say that "time", more than anything else, helps healing
our wounds.
All of them. A little or totally...

And 2016 is time. Some more time...



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2016-01-05 21:20 GMT+02:00 Boris Liberman :

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my
life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a contract for
our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac arrest. It was
unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very painful for my
mother, my brother and myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very
fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is
possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close,
especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could
regain most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a
lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former
class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people of
whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could happen.
Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his mother passed
away, he followed...

Boris





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Re: Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

[Larry Colen]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

LOL!

That's not the way I've phrased it...
"Yo! Cotty, Bob!  I'll be there in five hours. Are you available for a pint? I'll 
buy!"

Seems to work pretty well. :-)


I was thinking more along the lines of letting me know if they'd be off 
on holiday during a particular timeframe.



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Re: OT Computer stuff

[WILSON MICHAEL]

Thanks.  Not without modification of the case and they are still more expensive
than the present solution, which I have seen working.  The narrower (1.8"?)
drives will fit easily but are twice the price of the larger drives.

> On 05 January 2016 at 22:38 "Carlos R."  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can't you use a 2.5' standard SSD? They are much cheaper now than they 
> used to be. Or a miniPCI express one? In case your present SSD uses such 
> interface.
> 
> Carlos
> 
> El 05/01/2016 a las 4:41, WILSON MICHAEL escribió:
> > I have an Acer Aspire One netbook with an 8Gig SSD.  Apart from being
> > terribly
> > slow, the SSD appears to have failed.  Looking around for a replacement, I
> > discovered the option of using a CF card with a CF/ZIF adaptor.  More space,
> > less money = happy camper.
> >
> > However after installation of a Sandisc 32Gig 266x and much rude
> > language
> > due to non-functionality, I discover that the CF card needs to be DMA/UDMA
> > enabled and that, usually, only "industrial" grade cards provide this.  Said
> > cards are, of course, only a whisker away, pricewise, from a new SSD.
> >
> > However Transcend advertises CF cards that are "UDMA mode 7".  Having
> > been
> > bitten by advertising descriptions in the past, I'd like to ask if anyone
> > knows
> > whether this description really allows the cards to be used as fixed discs?
> >   Or... is there any way of enabling (U)DMA on the Sandisc?
> >
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Bill]

On 1/5/2016 6:20 PM, John Coyle wrote:

And I thought I was alone in not liking very peaty malts!



I find the really peaty ones smell like Dettol. I don't have a lot of 
use for the Islay whiskys.



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Re: A great use for good Scotch

[Alan C]

Have you tried Coke?

Alan C

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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bill  wrote:

Scotch should be diluted with water,


Like many, I am convinced that a bit of water is needed to "open up" a
fine single malt.  I prefer just a "splash."  I respect those who
prefer it neat, and also those who prefer a lot more water.  Every
scotch drinker should follow his own palate.  I think that ice,
however, kill the subtleties of a good scotch, and mixers defeat the
purpose of paying for a fine single malt.

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Re: A great use for good Scotch

[Darren Addy]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> Have you tried Coke?

Apparently you haven't noticed Daniel has a coke nail to rival Carrie
Fisher's. Or maybe that is just to scratch his inner ear.
(I'm kidding of course. I have no idea what Daniel's hands look like).


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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Stan.

Yes, especially now that we finally moved in into our own apartment, it 
feels different too... The "glass half full" is an ever uphill battle 
for me... At least now, that I am aware of this trait of mine, I can 
deal with it, and not let it overcome me.


On 1/6/2016 0:38, Stanley Halpin wrote:

On Jan 5, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my 
life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a contract for our 
own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac arrest. It was unexpected, it 
was very quick, it wash shocking and very painful for my mother, my brother and 
myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very fresh. 
And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is possible to 
fully recover from the death of someone dear and close, especially from the 
closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could regain most of my self, 
although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people of whom 
I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could happen. Apparently, 
he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his mother passed away, he 
followed...

Boris


So sorry Boris. Put your arms around your own lovey family and consider your 
many blessings. This will not help ease the pain of your losses, but possibly 
it will help you flip from “glass half empty” to “glass half full.”

Stan



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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Boris Liberman]

Thank you, Dan.

This is what I am trying to do, at least within myself...

On 1/5/2016 23:31, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

My heart goes out to you and your family, Boris.

Keeping his memory alive, through images and stories, will help a bit
to ease the pain of the loss.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my
life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a contract for
our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac arrest. It was
unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very painful for my
mother, my brother and myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very
fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is
possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close,
especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could
regain most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a
lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former
class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people of
whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could happen.
Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his mother passed
away, he followed...

Boris





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Re: Canonite question/recommendation?

[Dario Bonazza]

Generally speaking, all Canon APS-C bodies suck, compared to Nikon, Pentax, 
Fujifilm, etc.
However, the latest generation has improved enough not to feel ashamed as 
they did in the recent past.
Get her a Canon EOS 750D (EOS Rebel T6i) or EOS 760D (EOS Rebel T6s) and 
she'll be happy enough.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Larry Colen

Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss List
Subject: Canonite question/recommendation?

I have a friend who is serious/knowledgeable about photography (knows
her aperture from a hole in the ground), but who is also rather
financially challenged.  I recently realized that her camera (EOS 40D)
is getting old enough that it should be possible to get here a fairly
significant performance upgrade without spending lots and lots of money.

However, I know almost nothing about the Canon lineup.  Does anyone have
any recommendations for Canon SLRs, probably used, that offer
exceptional performance for the cost?

For example, a 40D seems to go on KEH for $160-210, so my guess is that
something in the $300-400 range might give her a significant boost in
performance.  I just have no idea which bodies are considered winners
and which ones generally suck.

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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Jan 5, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my 
> life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a contract for 
> our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac arrest. It was 
> unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very painful for my 
> mother, my brother and myself.
> 
> Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very 
> fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is 
> possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close, 
> especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could regain 
> most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.
> 
> As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
> class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people of 
> whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could happen. 
> Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his mother passed 
> away, he followed...
> 
> Boris
> 

So sorry Boris. Put your arms around your own lovey family and consider your 
many blessings. This will not help ease the pain of your losses, but possibly 
it will help you flip from “glass half empty” to “glass half full.”

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Re: OT Computer stuff

[Carlos R.]

Can't you use a 2.5' standard SSD? They are much cheaper now than they 
used to be. Or a miniPCI express one? In case your present SSD uses such 
interface.


Carlos

El 05/01/2016 a las 4:41, WILSON MICHAEL escribió:

I have an Acer Aspire One netbook with an 8Gig SSD.  Apart from being terribly
slow, the SSD appears to have failed.  Looking around for a replacement, I
discovered the option of using a CF card with a CF/ZIF adaptor.  More space,
less money = happy camper.

However after installation of a Sandisc 32Gig 266x and much rude language
due to non-functionality, I discover that the CF card needs to be DMA/UDMA
enabled and that, usually, only "industrial" grade cards provide this.  Said
cards are, of course, only a whisker away, pricewise, from a new SSD.

However Transcend advertises CF cards that are "UDMA mode 7".  Having been
bitten by advertising descriptions in the past, I'd like to ask if anyone knows
whether this description really allows the cards to be used as fixed discs?
  Or... is there any way of enabling (U)DMA on the Sandisc?




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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Carlos R.]

I am sorry for that, Boris. My father also died in the same way when I 
was very young (23) and living abroad at that time. Time will heal your 
wounds for sure, but it is a slow process. Be patient and strong, and 
enjoy your life as much as you can.


Carlos


El 05/01/2016 a las 20:20, Boris Liberman escribió:

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in
my life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a
contract for our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac
arrest. It was unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very
painful for my mother, my brother and myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very
fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is
possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close,
especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could
regain most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has
changed a lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former
class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people
of whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could
happen. Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his
mother passed away, he followed...

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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Daniel J. Matyola]

My heart goes out to you and your family, Boris.

Keeping his memory alive, through images and stories, will help a bit
to ease the pain of the loss.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hello.
>
> It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my
> life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a contract for
> our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac arrest. It was
> unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very painful for my
> mother, my brother and myself.
>
> Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very
> fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is
> possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close,
> especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could
> regain most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a
> lot.
>
> As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former
> class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people of
> whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could happen.
> Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his mother passed
> away, he followed...
>
> Boris
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" -
> that is uniformly excellent across the entire spectrum.

That is quite true, but the subject of this thread is "A great use for
good Scotch," and I therefore limited my comments to GOOD scotch.

A agree that there is s W  I  D  E  spectrum of taste and style, even
among good -- or excellent -- single malts.  I prefer the "peat
monsters" from the southern shore of Islay, but I also find
Glenmorangie quite appealing.  (I agree Glenfiddich is no very
satisfying, and would rather select a blended whisky.)

For a Rob Roy or for flavoring a dessert, I would use a decent blended
whisky rather that wasting a good single malt.

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Re: Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

[Bob W-PDML]

I think you'll have to let us know when your plans are a little more firmed up, 
Larry, otherwise we'll each have to supply a full daily schedule for the next 
few months.

> On 5 Jan 2016, at 20:55, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> It looks like I might be taking a trip to the UK with Zab sometime in the 
> next few months.  If you would like the opportunity to see me in person, drop 
> me a note off-list with time/space coordinates of your availability.  It's 
> all in the very rough planning stages right now.
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Re: PESO 2016 - 003 - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> Nice cockpit.

Nice pun!

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Canonite question/recommendation?

[Larry Colen]

I have a friend who is serious/knowledgeable about photography (knows 
her aperture from a hole in the ground), but who is also rather 
financially challenged.  I recently realized that her camera (EOS 40D) 
is getting old enough that it should be possible to get here a fairly 
significant performance upgrade without spending lots and lots of money.


However, I know almost nothing about the Canon lineup.  Does anyone have 
any recommendations for Canon SLRs, probably used, that offer 
exceptional performance for the cost?


For example, a 40D seems to go on KEH for $160-210, so my guess is that 
something in the $300-400 range might give her a significant boost in 
performance.  I just have no idea which bodies are considered winners 
and which ones generally suck.


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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Paul Stenquist]

I'm a fan of the peaty Islays. Laphroig 10 is my favorite. Just for grins I 
tried a Speyside, a Macallan 12, last weekend -- my first single malt way back 
when. This time around I found It so sweet I could barely finish it. (However, 
I manned up and choked it down.) I do like Balvenie, another Speyside. I'm fond 
of Highland Park, which is from some other island. Orechney? When I worked on 
the Dodge ad account we always had Highland Park at company parties. Back then 
our client was based in Highland Park ... Michigan.

Paul via phone

> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:20 PM, John Coyle  wrote:
> 
> And I thought I was alone in not liking very peaty malts!
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2016 05:56
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> Subject: Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 10:11:35AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> BLASPHEMY!
>>> 
>>> There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to 
>>> be sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.
>> 
>> You have obviously never tried our homemade Lagavulin ice cream.
> 
> 
> It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" - 
> that is uniformly
> excellent across the entire spectrum.
> 
> As Larry can attest, I've got a fair few excellent examples on my shelves.
> Amongst those I've also got several bottles that I don't personally like, but 
> this is basically a
> matter of style, not of quality.  Even among the ones that fall into my 
> favourite taste bracket (the
> lighter Speyside malts, for example, not the heavily peat-flavoured Islay 
> brands) there is a great
> difference between, say, a bottle of Glenfiddich (which I no longer keep) and 
> the bottle of
> Glenmorangie 1971 single-vintage we treated ourselves to as a house-warming 
> present 20 years ago
> (and which still tastes wonderful).
> 
> 
> On the other hand, I've also encountered a couple of examples over the years 
> where I felt that the
> only real use of the liquid in question would be as paint stripper or drain 
> cleaner.  And whereas
> most of the objectionable qualities would probably be negated (or at least 
> masked) if they were used
> as ingredients, I prefer to err on the safe side, and follow Julia Child's
> maxim:  If you wouldn't drink it, you shouldn't be cooking with it!
> 
> 
> P.S. I'd be happy to provide an objective viewpoint on Larry's ice cream...
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Re: Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

[Rick Womer]

Try this, Larry:

"Good evening,

Mr Larry Colen humbly and obsequiously requests the honour* of meeting the most 
honorable Messrs Robert Walden and Stephen Cottrell. He hopes to place his 
unworthy colonial boots on the sacred soil of the Mother Country in the coming 
few months, and dares to hope that he is worthy of such an audience.

Groveling at their feet, God Save the Queen, pip-pip and all that,

Yours sincerely, etc."

*(note spelling: it's important)

Those Brits are touchy sorts. You need to be careful.

Cheers and tally-ho,

Rick


On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

> On 5/1/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> It looks like I might be taking a trip to the UK with Zab sometime in 
>> the next few months.  If you would like the opportunity to see me in 
>> person, drop me a note off-list with time/space coordinates of your 
>> availability.
> 
> I don't think you've quite got that hang of visiting the Brits. What you
> wrote up there? The other way round matey ;-)
> 
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> Cheers,
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Bill  wrote:
> That would involve buying a bottle of lesser whisky. As good little
> consumers we should not be enabling mediocrity.

There are a few blendeds that are a bit above "mediocre."

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RE: Looking back at very difficult year

[John Coyle]

Hi Boris - 2015 must have been one of the worst years of your life: please take 
comfort from your
beautiful family being around you, as I have in the last few days.


John in Brisbane




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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman
Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2016 05:20
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Looking back at very difficult year

Hello.

It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my 
life so far. Back in
March, just a few days after we signed a contract for our own apartment, my 
father passed away from
cardiac arrest. It was unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very 
painful for my
mother, my brother and myself.

Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very fresh. 
And to some of you I
owe great debt now. I don't think that it is possible to fully recover from the 
death of someone
dear and close, especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, 
I could regain most
of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.

As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
class-mate from my school in
Moscow also died. He was among the people of whom I wouldn't even dare think 
that something like
this could happen. Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his 
mother passed away, he
followed...

Boris





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Re: Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/1/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It looks like I might be taking a trip to the UK with Zab sometime in 
>the next few months.  If you would like the opportunity to see me in 
>person, drop me a note off-list with time/space coordinates of your 
>availability.

I don't think you've quite got that hang of visiting the Brits. What you
wrote up there? The other way round matey ;-)

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bill  wrote:
> Scotch should be diluted with water,

Like many, I am convinced that a bit of water is needed to "open up" a
fine single malt.  I prefer just a "splash."  I respect those who
prefer it neat, and also those who prefer a lot more water.  Every
scotch drinker should follow his own palate.  I think that ice,
however, kill the subtleties of a good scotch, and mixers defeat the
purpose of paying for a fine single malt.

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RE: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[John Coyle]

And I thought I was alone in not liking very peaty malts!

John in Brisbane




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Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2016 05:56
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Subject: Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 10:11:35AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >BLASPHEMY!
> >
> >There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to 
> >be sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.
> 
> You have obviously never tried our homemade Lagavulin ice cream.


It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" - that 
is uniformly
excellent across the entire spectrum.

As Larry can attest, I've got a fair few excellent examples on my shelves.
Amongst those I've also got several bottles that I don't personally like, but 
this is basically a
matter of style, not of quality.  Even among the ones that fall into my 
favourite taste bracket (the
lighter Speyside malts, for example, not the heavily peat-flavoured Islay 
brands) there is a great
difference between, say, a bottle of Glenfiddich (which I no longer keep) and 
the bottle of
Glenmorangie 1971 single-vintage we treated ourselves to as a house-warming 
present 20 years ago
(and which still tastes wonderful).


On the other hand, I've also encountered a couple of examples over the years 
where I felt that the
only real use of the liquid in question would be as paint stripper or drain 
cleaner.  And whereas
most of the objectionable qualities would probably be negated (or at least 
masked) if they were used
as ingredients, I prefer to err on the safe side, and follow Julia Child's
maxim:  If you wouldn't drink it, you shouldn't be cooking with it!


P.S. I'd be happy to provide an objective viewpoint on Larry's ice cream...

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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Paul Stenquist]

Hi Boris.
So sorry to hear of your loss. Keep your family close and remember the good 
times. The pain won't go away any time soon, but you can begin to fill the void 
with love and warmth.
Paul
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2016 05:20
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> Subject: Looking back at very difficult year
> 
> Hello.
> 
> It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my 
> life so far. Back in
> March, just a few days after we signed a contract for our own apartment, my 
> father passed away from
> cardiac arrest. It was unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and 
> very painful for my
> mother, my brother and myself.
> 
> Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very 
> fresh. And to some of you I
> owe great debt now. I don't think that it is possible to fully recover from 
> the death of someone
> dear and close, especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes 
> by, I could regain most
> of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.
> 
> As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
> class-mate from my school in
> Moscow also died. He was among the people of whom I wouldn't even dare think 
> that something like
> this could happen. Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his 
> mother passed away, he
> followed...
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Looking back at very difficult year

[Jack Davis]

Tough year, Boris. Am honored you
chose to share and extent my sincerest sympathies.
Here's to a hopeful 2016!

J

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> On Jan 5, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> It seems that the 2015 has been one of if not the most difficult year in my 
> life so far. Back in March, just a few days after we signed a contract for 
> our own apartment, my father passed away from cardiac arrest. It was 
> unexpected, it was very quick, it wash shocking and very painful for my 
> mother, my brother and myself.
> 
> Some of you I contacted privately on this when the wound was still very 
> fresh. And to some of you I owe great debt now. I don't think that it is 
> possible to fully recover from the death of someone dear and close, 
> especially from the closest family. At least, as time goes by, I could regain 
> most of my self, although my outlook at many things now has changed a lot.
> 
> As it learned later, about the same time a good friend of mine, former 
> class-mate from my school in Moscow also died. He was among the people of 
> whom I wouldn't even dare think that something like this could happen. 
> Apparently, he wasn't very healthy and few weeks after his mother passed 
> away, he followed...
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Bill]

On 1/5/2016 3:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM, John Francis  wrote:

It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" -
that is uniformly excellent across the entire spectrum.


That is quite true, but the subject of this thread is "A great use for
good Scotch," and I therefore limited my comments to GOOD scotch.

A agree that there is s W  I  D  E  spectrum of taste and style, even
among good -- or excellent -- single malts.  I prefer the "peat
monsters" from the southern shore of Islay, but I also find
Glenmorangie quite appealing.  (I agree Glenfiddich is no very
satisfying, and would rather select a blended whisky.)

For a Rob Roy or for flavoring a dessert, I would use a decent blended
whisky rather that wasting a good single malt.


That would involve buying a bottle of lesser whisky. As good little 
consumers we should not be enabling mediocrity.



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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

[Bill]

On 1/5/2016 10:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

BLASPHEMY!

There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to be
sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.


Interesting you should bring that up.
I was listening to a CBC program called Ideas one time on Robbie Burns day.
They were interviewing cellar masters at various whisky distilleries. 
Every one of them said Scotch should be diluted with water, though there 
was some diversity of amount, but the number ranged from 25% to 50%, and 
of course they preferred water was what the distillery was drawing to 
make their product.


So there you go.

http://www.scottishgourmetusa.com/product/edradour-whisky-fudge-gift-tin-for-sale-in-usa/Scottish-candy-and-chocolates

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Re: PESO - A Rainy Day's Walk

[Rick Womer]

I like it--excellent colors, composition, textures, and sharpness. 

I wonder what the rope is all about...

Rick

On Jan 5, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

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