[Phono-L] Shipping info needed
hi i am and have used two one is named kieth out of nc his number is 1-828-238-2727 or and the other is john wasserman Piano Pro Moving and Storage office 563.580.5035 In a message dated 5/26/2009 5:44:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wilenz...@bellsouth.net writes: I am interested in having two large cylinder record cabinets and other large phono items shipped from New Orleans to Atlanta. Does anyone have experience in shipping items like this, and could offer suggestions on the least expensive way to do it. I recall seeing posts about persons that transport victrolas, etc., but don't have names available. Anyone have experience with Craters Freighters or Nationwide Delivery Systems, or similar? Thanks for your help. Ray ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= MaystepsfooterNO62) From wilenz...@bellsouth.net Tue May 26 18:34:35 2009 From: wilenz...@bellsouth.net (Raymond Wilenzick) Date: Tue May 26 18:34:43 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping info needed References: 41b09605f59244298cdb9d077335d...@wilenzick Message-ID: c30ed16632e24997a943897c3c2be...@wilenzick Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for information. I have contacted a man in NC who was recommended by several collectors and it looks like he will do the job. Ray - Original Message - From: Raymond Wilenzick wilenz...@bellsouth.net To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; Phono-L@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping info needed I am interested in having two large cylinder record cabinets and other large phono items shipped from New Orleans to Atlanta. Does anyone have experience in shipping items like this, and could offer suggestions on the least expensive way to do it. I recall seeing posts about persons that transport victrolas, etc., but don't have names available. Anyone have experience with Craters Freighters or Nationwide Delivery Systems, or similar? Thanks for your help. Ray ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Fwd: Ken is back in NH
here is some good news on ken woodbury From: ZONOPHONE2007 To: Zonophone2006 Sent: 5/4/2009 2:03:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fwd: Ken is back in NH One more hello to everyone. I just heard more good news from Ken's other half. Fred has been through some anxious moments since April 19th. Ken is finally back in Keene, NH and is doing well. He'll need to stay in a rehab facility for about a week before returning to his own home and family: Jasmine, Cayenne, and Fred. Apparently his life and brain were saved when the NJ EMT crew packed him in ice, preventing his brain from overheating. No wonder it seemed to take much longer than usual for the professionals to attend to Ken on the floor of the PAL gym before eventually loading him into the ambulance. Fred says that Ken is in good spirits and is already making plans for the future. No doubt he will be hearing from quite a few of us while he improves. Signing off from Vermont - - Glen G. 2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: _See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir=https://www.freescore.com/Offers/Start/FreeCreditReportAndScore.aspx?ID=91 831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872siteid=e927580bf7) **2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir=https:%2F%2Fwww.freescore.com%2FOffers%2FStart%2FFreeCreditRepor tAndScore.aspx%3FID%3D91831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872%26siteid%3De927580bf7 ) From jim...@earthlink.net Wed May 6 18:07:01 2009 From: jim...@earthlink.net (jim...@earthlink.net) Date: Wed May 6 18:07:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] This makes my mouth water Message-ID: 380-22009547171...@earthlink.net I am looking for three gold-plated soundboxes to fit the Edison P-1 Portable Phonographs that plays needle-cut records which is only made of pot metal. The P-2 used a similar nickel-plated pot metal metal soundbox.The one on E-bay is for a different model Edison needle-cut portable. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 03-May-2009 6:21:47 PM Subject: [Phono-L] This makes my mouth water Too bad I don't have a machine to put it on. Wasn't someone on the board looking for an Edison Needle Cut reproducer?? This one is brass, not pot metal! John Robles http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360151521216ssPageName=A DME:B:FSEL:US:1123 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Columbia Recorder
hi the original show the reproducer reading upside down the repro shows it right side up as they were used on coinops In a message dated 3/2/2009 2:13:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: I have a photo of a gutta percha brown Columbia recorder, is there anyone who could give me an idea if it is a reproduction? I will send the photo to any one who can help. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From gramophonesh...@yahoo.com Mon Mar 2 13:41:49 2009 From: gramophonesh...@yahoo.com (shane nolan) Date: Mon Mar 2 13:44:08 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] retarmysgt (William) post regarding Gramophoneshane Message-ID: 877472.16967...@web62306.mail.re1.yahoo.com Thank you for comments everybody. This video was originally made to show basically what was involved with removing a spring, and was posted in a thread on the old OTVMMB in a discussion with some members that hadn't even seen the inside of a barrel. It was never intended to be an instructional video for someone who has never touched a phono motor before. The spring is a small Thorens spring, which is mentioned if you read the discription box, where I also recommend wearing gloves, eye protection, and that a beginner should not attempt a large spring like a diamond disc, if they have never done a spring before. I also mention using a jig to hold the barrel, giving you two hands to manipulate the spring. Once you've got the hang of smaller springs though, larger springs are not impossible to do in exactly the same way. I will be adding another video to this one, showing a real spring being removed replaced. I have been trying to get to it for a couple weeks now, but haven't found the time as yet. It will be posted in the next couple days though, using a diamond disc spring, and perhaps a large Victor double spring barrel as well. However, I will not be using jigs or gloves, because I have never used them since I started doing springs when I was 13 years old. I will be recommending the use of both in the video however, as it seem most people can't be bothered reading the discription box. One piece of advise that was posted, I must say I disagree with, and that is using multi-grips on the spring. This can score the steel lead to spring breakage. Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox From waltsomm...@comcast.net Mon Mar 2 14:03:24 2009 From: waltsomm...@comcast.net (Walt Sommers) Date: Mon Mar 2 14:09:40 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Small Spring Service on YouTube In-Reply-To: col118-w5219e27cad3b6636aaa14ef6...@phx.gbl References: 176860.26718...@web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com 49abf186.3030...@mediaguide.com 49abf58e.2010...@cox.net 49ac1b3b.2000...@comcast.net col118-w5219e27cad3b6636aaa14ef6...@phx.gbl Message-ID: 49ac57ac.6000...@comcast.net
[Phono-L] Graphophone N Question
hi i am rob mallett in sarasota florida the reproducer is original but not for that machine the gutta percha is what belongs on that email me and i can take some pictures of it its a good machine i was trying to sell it at the florida show but not much was selling due to the economy zono In a message dated 2/12/2009 7:53:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jnic...@fuse.net writes: The Indiana Graphophone nameplate in my pictures below is gone? I wonder what happened to it? Do you have any pics of the machine with the new nickel plating? I always intended to do that (and a new decal), and I think Shawn was planning the same. What were you saying about a gutta percha reproducer? I could never figure out if the metal one in my pictures was an original or a repro. By the way, remind me who zono is. I usually don't remember who the alias guys are. Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:09 PM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: hi again shawn or someone did take the id plate off but its all the same still i wish i has the id plate too best to all zono In a message dated 2/11/2009 7:56:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jnic...@fuse.net writes: I sold my Columbia N in 2006 to Shawn O'Rourke (who's probably on Phono-L). There are still pictures of the N at: http://web.mac.com/jn45224/iWeb/Site/Library.html I don't know enough about Columbias to know what kind of reproducer is shown in the photos. But I believe it worked OK. Jim Nichol On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered to playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and if so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder if it was thicker than a #2. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ray ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) From john9...@pacbell.net Sat Feb 14 10:14:49 2009 From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Feb 14 10:14:55 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Back Bracket/Tonearm to trade Message-ID: 941684.4212...@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com Happy Valentine's day to all! Has anybody got a Victor III Back bracket and tonearm that they would trade for a Victor II back bracket and tonearm?? There is not much striping on the Vic II tonearm, and I wouldn't be too picky about the Victor III bracket..I have a really nice Victor III that I am going to have to sell, but the back bracket is incorrect and I would like to fix that. It does have a very nice elbow as well, and I might be enticed to throw that in for a straight trade. I know I'd be getting the worst of that deal, but I do need to sell the three. Spouse out of work for 8 months now and nothing in sight. Thanks! John Robles From john9...@pacbell.net Sat Feb 14 10:17:04 2009 From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Feb 14 10:17:33 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] HMV Model 104, VV-XVI for sale Message-ID: 271810.5822...@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com Hi I also have a very nice HMV model 104, which is similar to a Victrola VIII but has the HMV orthophonic reproducer, and this little machine sounds absolutley amazing! $300, email for pics. Late Victrola XVI, mahogany, goldplated hardware, excellent sound, original key, $675. Email for pics. Thanks John Robles From abefed...@gmail.com Sat Feb 14 11:02:46 2009 From: abefed...@gmail.com (Abe Feder) Date: Sat Feb 14 11:02:53 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] HMV Model 104, VV-XVI for sale In-Reply-To: 271810.5822...@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com References: 271810.5822...@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com Message-ID: 4e885f140902141102o7e7f49caj173e696c3d46...@mail.gmail.com John, Would like to see pics for the 104 thx Abe Feder need4art On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Hi I also have a very nice HMV model 104, which is similar to a Victrola VIII but has the HMV orthophonic reproducer, and this little machine sounds absolutley amazing! $300, email for pics. Late Victrola XVI, mahogany, goldplated hardware, excellent sound, original key, $675. Email for pics. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9...@pacbell.net Sat Feb 14 11:05:03 2009 From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Feb 14 11:05
[Phono-L] hello all
here is a friend of mines comment on a new move by ebay any one else care to comment This is simply the text (below, in blue) of a quick message I sent to eBay on their Contact Us website option. Earlier today I spent a half-hour on-line with an eBay helper person, trying to get an answer to my question. It took Vickie almost 30 minutes to verify that the problem could not be resolved. Now I am sharing this info with friends who use eBay. I was disappointed to learn that a useful feature has been eliminated. When watching or bidding on items, there were formerly several buttons from which to choose, including delete from list or compare or add a note. I used the comment button to add my thoughts, like whether I was sniping the item; my maximum potential bid; real name and past satisfsaction of/with the seller; suggested value of a specific record in guide books; recent sale prices of a similar item; whether I already own 1 or more examples; person or friend who has been seeking this item; errors or omissions in the seller's description; etc. Just another unfortunate move by eBay. I am not surprised that their revenue and user satisfasction are both declining. **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://www.dell.com/co ntent/products/features.aspx/laptops_great_deals#63;c=us%26cs=19%26l=en%26s=d hs%26#126;ck=anavml) From bwal...@machlink.com Sun Feb 1 06:50:38 2009 From: bwal...@machlink.com (Brian Walter) Date: Sun Feb 1 06:59:54 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] [SPAM] Question To Post Message-ID: d5f367da8541413db2bac747b68a0...@brian4b2c06c9e Little Dancer Just recently obtained a German Bing Little Dancer phonograph. I have searched the web for information, but found very little.Is there any information out there where I am not looking. One picture in the last Fabrizio-Paul book. The reproducer on this one seems wrong. It has a nickel plated cover where the rest of the phonograph is painted. Would like to see an original. Also, what would be the best way to clean the paint from smoke and dirt? Thanks, Brian Walter, Muscatine, Iowa From abefed...@gmail.com Sun Feb 1 12:32:42 2009 From: abefed...@gmail.com (Abe Feder) Date: Sun Feb 1 12:32:53 2009 Subject: [SPAM] [Phono-L] [SPAM] Question To Post In-Reply-To: d5f367da8541413db2bac747b68a0...@brian4b2c06c9e References: d5f367da8541413db2bac747b68a0...@brian4b2c06c9e Message-ID: 4e885f140902011232s3e9b7daev2d3d21490a2f...@mail.gmail.com Hi Brian, I do art restration for a living and use many different types of chemicals to clean smoke and dirt from paint. I would start with Kotton Cleanser -but do not use paper towels, rags or steel wool-use cotton balls. put some on a cotton ball and use a circular motion. do not try to clean every bit on the first pass. Do the entire item then wipe down with mineral spirts.Let dry and repeat. If this does not clean it up in the manner you are looking for let me know. Abe Feder On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Brian Walter bwal...@machlink.com wrote: Little Dancer Just recently obtained a German Bing Little Dancer phonograph. I have searched the web for information, but found very little.Is there any information out there where I am not looking. One picture in the last Fabrizio-Paul book. The reproducer on this one seems wrong. It has a nickel plated cover where the rest of the phonograph is painted. Would like to see an original. Also, what would be the best way to clean the paint from smoke and dirt? Thanks, Brian Walter, Muscatine, Iowa ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From jan...@comcast.net Sun Feb 1 19:29:15 2009 From: jan...@comcast.net (jan...@comcast.net) Date: Sun Feb 1 19:30:27 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola XVI cabinet - Craigslist Near Seattle, WA Message-ID: 20090202032916.87961164...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com I just was this on craigslist. Just in case someone is interested (it is not mine). http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/fuo/1016541709.html John Curry 5702 Parkview Lane Everett, WA 98203
[Phono-L] Edison 82525 question
hi steve yes it was it was worth the money just as an oddity -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 7:15 pm Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Edison 82525 question Was this record on eBay about a month ago? Steve hi all you are right there is some confusion mine is a recitation of the little black hen and a corn huskers song the beginning names all the people on it and where it was recorded the label is the black paper label hand typed 1922 dealers contest sponsored by harver blake iowa the people who are introduced are told also where they came from at the end the guy says he doesn't give a damn about iowa as he was from missouri the show me state the back is just a plain flat black etched in the side run off is 836-a-1-1- its interesting for a dd best to all zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Edison 82525 question
hi all you are right there is some confusion mine is a recitation of the little black hen and a corn huskers song the beginning names all the people on it and where it was recorded the label is the black paper label hand typed 1922 dealers contest sponsored by harver blake iowa the people who are introduced are told also where they came from at the end the guy says he doesn't give a damn about iowa as he was from missouri the show me state the back is just a plain flat black etched in the side run off is 836-a-1-1- its interesting for a dd best to all zono **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) From steve_nor...@msn.com Sun Dec 28 16:15:10 2008 From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Dec 28 16:20:21 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison 82525 question In-Reply-To: d41.30e241fd.3688d...@aol.com References: d41.30e241fd.3688d...@aol.com Message-ID: col118-w42a96ffa05851e631286adf6...@phx.gbl Was this record on eBay about a month ago? Steve hi all you are right there is some confusion mine is a recitation of the little black hen and a corn huskers song the beginning names all the people on it and where it was recorded the label is the black paper label hand typed 1922 dealers contest sponsored by harver blake iowa the people who are introduced are told also where they came from at the end the guy says he doesn't give a damn about iowa as he was from missouri the show me state the back is just a plain flat black etched in the side run off is 836-a-1-1- its interesting for a dd best to all zono From pjfra...@alamedanet.net Mon Dec 29 07:33:47 2008 From: pjfra...@alamedanet.net (Peter Fraser) Date: Mon Dec 29 07:34:06 2008 Subject: 1922 dealer contest DD, was: [Phono-L] Edison 82525 question In-Reply-To: d41.30e241fd.3688d...@aol.com References: d41.30e241fd.3688d...@aol.com Message-ID: 4e7f1c0f-96bb-4109-aa08-fd5f54a49...@alamedanet.net gee, this sure sounds cool - any way you can make a dub of it available to us? On Dec 28, 2008, at 5:15 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: hi all you are right there is some confusion mine is a recitation of the little black hen and a corn huskers song the beginning names all the people on it and where it was recorded the label is the black paper label hand typed 1922 dealers contest sponsored by harver blake iowa the people who are introduced are told also where they came from at the end the guy says he doesn't give a damn about iowa as he was from missouri the show me state the back is just a plain flat black etched in the side run off is 836-a-1-1- its interesting for a dd best to all zono -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net
[Phono-L] Music Box springs
hi ron you might try nancy fratti music boxes or _Nancy Fratti Music Boxes_ (http://www.nancyfrattimusicboxes.com/) Nancy Fratti Music Boxes (formerly Panchronia Antiquities) PO Box 400 Canastota, NY 13032-0400 USA 315-684-9977 In a message dated 12/1/2008 10:02:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lhera...@bu.edu writes: List mates, This is a bit off topic, but ISTR that some of our members also work on music boxes. A friend of mine has asked me to repair the spring in a music box he owns (I have not seen it yet and have just e-mailed him to ask for the brand/model). So, if anyone has information about parts suppliers for Music Boxes, particularly in the North East USA (I'm in MA and the machine is in CT), or can recommend a reputable repair person in the North East USA, I'd appreciate it. I've already cautioned him that music box springs are even more powerful than phono springs, told him about sharp edges etc. I've successfully replaced quite a few phono mainsprings and still have all my original functioning extremities, digits and eyes. 8-). Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40van ityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) From glast...@comcast.net Mon Dec 1 08:56:02 2008 From: glast...@comcast.net (George Glastris) Date: Mon Dec 1 09:01:54 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Curious Edison artifact on eBay In-Reply-To: 20effda8-ba27-4cf2-be2c-76118b12d...@popyrus.com References: 20effda8-ba27-4cf2-be2c-76118b12d...@popyrus.com Message-ID: ce2d0de2d47545628707c2620a60f...@glastrispc It is right as rain, just incomplete. It's an early 20th century projector. The case should be oak and it looks to be. It's missing the lens for one thing and the reels, illuminant, et al are missing. Basically what is there is the feed mechanism. Not as rare as one would imagine, they turn up like this rather frequently. - Original Message - From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Curious Edison artifact on eBay What do you all make of this? The seller describes it as a peephole device, but the original serial number plate reads Projecting Kinetiscope. The cabinet at first glance appears to be home made, but the age of it seems honest; not faked to look old. The external hardware certainly appears to be age-appropriate, and yet the cabinet wood looks like pine or fir, which would be odd for the time. The mechanism appears intact, but I don't see anything that's obviously involved with projection. Is this part of a larger affair, or something made from a more complete device to adapt it to a different use? EDISON KINETOSCOPE CAMERA PHONOGRAPH RARE FILM VIEWER Item number: 110320165169 Andy Baron Santa Fe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Music Box springs
here is a good one near atlanta too i have used him for a few boxes DB MUSICAL RESTORATIONS 75 Waters Edge Lane Newnan, GA 30263 PHONE: 770-253-1903 FAX: 770-253-7601 Email: _beck1...@bellsouth.net _ (mailto:beck1...@bellsout.net) (http://www.dbmusicalrestorations.com/aboutus.html) (http://www.dbmusicalrestorations.com/history.html) For more information regarding musical boxes, go to: _www.mbsi.org_ (http://www.mbsi.org/) In a message dated 12/1/2008 11:49:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, phonofo...@aol.com writes: Ron: Try Nancy Fratti in New York. SHe is the most well know Musc Box supplies dealer in the world. Here is her website: http://www.nancyfrattimusicboxes.com/ Rick -Original Message- From: Ron L lhera...@bu.edu To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 9:59 am Subject: [Phono-L] Music Box springs List mates, This is a bit off topic, but ISTR that some of our members also work on music boxes. A friend of mine has asked me to repair the spring in a music box he owns (I have not seen it yet and have just e-mailed him to ask for the brand/model). So, if anyone has information about parts suppliers for Music Boxes, particularly in the North East USA (I'm in MA and the machine is in CT), or can recommend a reputable repair person in the North East USA, I'd appreciate it. I've already cautioned him that music box springs are even more powerful than phono springs, told him about sharp edges etc. I've successfully replaced quite a few phono mainsprings and still have all my original functioning extremities, digits and eyes. 8-). Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) From steve_nor...@msn.com Mon Dec 1 09:27:01 2008 From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Mon Dec 1 09:27:13 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Curious Edison artifact on eBay In-Reply-To: 88645ada-175a-40c3-b426-25ed801ed...@tampabay.rr.com References: 20effda8-ba27-4cf2-be2c-76118b12d...@popyrus.com 88645ada-175a-40c3-b426-25ed801ed...@tampabay.rr.com Message-ID: bay139-w56abcc0e5500f952fa7a90f6...@phx.gbl Especially when that person is selling a high dollar item and they are too cheap to provide a decent photo, that is what gets me. When you spend a lot of money it is nice to have a decent photo to look at. Does that triumph have pin striping? Can't tell poor, dark cheap photo. Some people crack me up with their poor pictures on Ebay!
[Phono-L] Diamond B
allen did you try musical americana rob In a message dated 11/23/2008 10:48:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, allena...@aol.com writes: Hi, Who should I relay as a good (mail order) provider of this service?: I was wondering if you know any other person that can put a new diamond needle in my B reproducer (Edison) for me, Allen **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir =http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) From steve_nor...@msn.com Sun Nov 23 18:08:45 2008 From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Nov 23 18:08:57 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Diamond B In-Reply-To: 03e101c94da5$409d8f20$0201a...@bmaffit References: c28.46bf7f68.365ad...@aol.com 07da0961-b628-4bbd-991c-e7c1bad06...@popyrus.com 03e101c94da5$409d8f20$0201a...@bmaffit Message-ID: bay139-w453f3d1239508f060e20b3f6...@phx.gbl Hello, I am very thankful for all the kind words. Best wishes to all, Steve From: maff...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond B Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:54:09 -0700 Allen: I have had him do a few reproducers for me and they end up Marvelous I would recommend him to anyone. later Bob - Original Message - From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond B Hi Allen -- It's basically a mechanical procedure, very straightforward, that you can have done by any number of people in the phonograph restoration world. However, my experience is that Steve Medved has a unique sensitivity to the nuances of several affiliated aspects of this job, that most of the others don't possess or don't worry about. In addition, he does listening tests on suitable machines as part of the work. He may recommend other improvements, such as replacing gaskets, which should be done at any rate if the existing ones are original or hard. The result of Steve's conscientious approach can be a dramatic improvement in sound quality and volume, over what you might expect from a simple R R (remove replace) of the stylus bar or basic stylus and gasket replacement. Good luck, Andy On Nov 23, 2008, at 8:41 AM, allena...@aol.com wrote: Hi, Who should I relay as a good (mail order) provider of this service?: I was wondering if you know any other person that can put a new diamond needle in my B reproducer (Edison) for me, Allen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1807 - Release Date: 11/23/2008 10:59 AM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From mobilityscoot...@xtra.co.nz Sun Nov 23 19:07:20 2008 From: mobilityscoot...@xtra.co.nz (Mobility Scooters) Date: Sun Nov 23 19:19:41 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Diamond B In-Reply-To: 796o8r$2ao...@pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca Message-ID: ihemlnjjnjjnobcofjnggeegcmaa.mobilityscoot...@xtra.co.nz I don't have a great deal of knowledge on Phonographs to get involved with this message board but on this subject I believe I do. If you want a truly honest person that has fantastic skills with repairs and also the ability for testing reproducers simply don't waste your time trying to contact anyone else bare Steve. I had an Edison Opera with a damaged reproducer and hated the sound. This reproducer needed some very delicate repairs which Steve made a fantastic job of he also fitted a new stylus and completely overhauled this Diamond A reproducer. I couldn't of hoped for anything better and it plays brilliantly I now hear sounds that I could never hear before. I am from New Zealand and it was a big decision to send the Diamond A reproducer out side New Zealand in case I never got it back as I don't know where to find another one. At a time when there are so many people trying to rip you off in some way it is a big decision sending any part half way around the world for repairs and knowing if this part goes missing the machine will be shelved. But when you find the right
[Phono-L] Parts for sale.
hi all i am looking for the nuts or hold downs for a branded case gem reproducer does anyone have any thanks zono In a message dated 11/22/2008 4:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cen...@comcast.net writes: I need a knurled gold bolt for a Victrola 12. It is the one that attaches the motor board to the cabinet. Other early Victrolas may use the same one. I have 3 but need the 4th. Thank you. Al Menashe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) From ronbr...@aol.com Sat Nov 22 16:35:35 2008 From: ronbr...@aol.com (ronbr...@aol.com) Date: Sat Nov 22 16:40:58 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Parts for sale. In-Reply-To: cfb.47604880.3659e...@aol.com References: cfb.47604880.3659e...@aol.com Message-ID: 8cb1b1a88becd9d-6cc-...@webmail-dd17.sysops.aol.com does anyone on the list sell an inexpensive cyclinder reamer? email me off list at ronbr...@aol.com ron -Original Message- From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Parts for sale. hi all i am looking for the nuts or hold downs for a branded case gem reproducer does anyone have any thanks zono In a message dated 11/22/2008 4:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cen...@comcast.net writes: I need a knurled gold bolt for a Victrola 12. It is the one that attaches the motor board to the cabinet. Other early Victrolas may use the same one. I have 3 but need the 4th. Thank you. Al Menashe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol? redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish
HI You might also check with steve farmer in oregon or washington state he redoes a lot of oxidized finishes for restorers In a message dated 11/13/2008 10:08:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, markely...@earthlink.net writes: Greetings, Does anyone here have experience recreating the brownish-black finish found on the Edison Opera and Amberola 1B mandrel? It appears to be a chemical finish on the brass surface as opposed to a plated finish. I'd be most grateful to talk to someone who has first-hand experience or can refer me to the right person. Best Regards, Mark Silver Spring, M ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) From john9...@pacbell.net Fri Nov 14 06:49:25 2008 From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Fri Nov 14 06:56:15 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed In-Reply-To: a72190db38284b4ca16e46326dc74...@frazzettohome Message-ID: 307014.70132...@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com I figured it was either that or you needed to replicate something. Be sure to upload a pic when it is done! --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Mario Frazzetto mari...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From: Mario Frazzetto mari...@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 11:54 AM Hey John just trying to make a cabinet/stand to suit my Victor 6 (earlier style) but wanted to make sure both VI's would fit ... - Original Message - From: john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed Sounds like a msterious project is in the works.. John Robles --Original Message-- From: Mario Frazzetto Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Phonolist To: Phono-L ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed Sent: Nov 13, 2008 4:56 AM Hi All, I'm after a couple of dimensions of a later (second motor) style Victor VI horn machine. Could someone please tell me: 1. Base dimensions - as in the actual footprint 2. Height (bottom of case to the top of motorboard) I really need to get accurate dimensions. Thanks in advance for your help! Cheers, Mario ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From gwpho...@woh.rr.com Fri Nov 14 07:14:31 2008 From: gwpho...@woh.rr.com (Gregory Cline) Date: Fri Nov 14 07:22:44 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Items for Sale In-Reply-To: mailman.0.1226174406.11019.phon...@oldcrank.org Message-ID: 521a64a51600460a9ab571cf5fb51...@gregg I would like to offer to the list the following items from my collection for sale or trade. It is time to downsize a bit...some are duplicates, others I just have run out of room for. Please contact me off list or phone me for details. (gcl...@woh.rr.com 419-424-1201 ) Pictures are available of all items. All items are available for free delivery to the Stanton Auction November 21,22. Thanks for looking! Gregg Cline 1. Columbia AS Coin Op. Outstanding original finish. Works great..plays a record completely, coin op mechanism works perfectly. Great original decal. Original coin drawer,crank, feet. It has the early tag marked only S Sign board is new but matches very well. Original reproducer with the set screw. There are a couple of new parts (coin chute, connection from trunion to post, post and timing gear. The horn is a 14 inch all brass horn with original elbow with a nice patina. It is a soldered seam between the bell and cone so it is early. Asking $5500. 2. Victor model P-1. This is an outstanding original example. All original save the turntable felt and brake leather. This is the second incarnation of this machine and has a unique motor that mounts on the bottom of the cabinet. The speed control actually has a knob that comes though the side of the cabinet and a vertical governor assembly. I believe the later P models are the only Victors to use this motor. It has the oxidized copper support arm and escutcheons. Finish is good with minor pitting on the support arm. Wooden traveling arm and a metal elbow horn with nice original decal and nearly perfect bell with a nice patina. Original Long throat Exhibition reproducer. Asking $1500 3 Zonophone Grand Opera.Late rear mount machine. This is a restored machine that plays great and presents very well.
[Phono-L] cheap player
hi all if anyone enjoys music on 78s and wants a good player but does not have to be a crank search under califone on ebay they are the old ones we used to have in school and play nicely In a message dated 11/9/2008 12:19:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ret.armysgt at yahoo.com writes: Thanks I know about a month ago I saved a brit from buying a piece of junk on ebay. I wish they would go after these people. Bill --- On Sun, 11/9/08, gpaul2000 at aol.com gpaul2000 at aol.com wrote: From: gpaul2000 at aol.com gpaul2...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Crook on eBay To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 12:11 PM Bill, You weren't too late.? I contacted cylinderfan early this morning.? He sent back a nice note thanking me for the heads-up and admitting that he thought it was too good to be true.? George Paul -Original Message- From: buck Buchanan ret.army...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:59 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ragtime Fabrizio Tim He sold the player to cylinderfan( 234) 234 ?? US $619.00 Nov-08-0820:17:55 PSTI emailed the person hoping to stop them from paying for the item. Lets hope I was not too late. Bill --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Michael F. Khanchalian mfkhanchalian at altrionet.com wrote: From: Michael F. Khanchalian mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ragtime Fabrizio To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 11:16 AM H, I wonder what would be the right musique to play while that ragtime toy is operating? Mikie Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jim Nichol jnichol at fuse.net wrote: George, if you don't want to get involved, it could be changed to Fabrizio and Kaplan. (Mark Kaplan was Tim's old record auction partner, for those who don't remember). Jim On Nov 9, 2008, at 7:49 AM, gpaul2000 at aol.com wrote: Okay - okay - - this is going in a direction I don't care for! I'd prefer Uncle George Kicking the Fabrizio?!?! George Paul -Original Message- From: Daniel Melvin dan at old-phonographs.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 12:05 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ragtime Fabrizio How can we work Shamandy into all this. Is George or Tim going to wear the dress and feather hat? Dan - Original Message - From: Phonophan at aol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ragtime Fabrizio Don't I have something to say about this??? But I DO like the Ragtime Oliphants--- instead of the Boxers, you have the Oliphant brothers. The same set-up could be used with Ragtime Fabrizio Paul --- except they'd be hitting each other with books. Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 747 Henrietta, NY 14467 TEL 585 582 1586 FAX 585 582 2624 Web site: www.phonophan.com **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http: //searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001)
[Phono-L] More crooks on Ebay
hi tim et al seems like the guy is in port charlotte just south of me cant say i know any collectors down there maybe george might In a message dated 11/8/2008 3:31:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Aph4990 at aol.com writes: 220307377698 **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001)
[Phono-L] More crooks on Ebay
isnt a ragtime fabrizio at tims birthday party at union lol best to all In a message dated 11/8/2008 4:02:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Aph4990 at aol.com writes: Ok I'll bite-- What's a Ragtime Fabrizio? ---Art **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http: //searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001)
[Phono-L] Loss To Phono Collector Community
pat was a nice guy and last time i saw him at the florida show he had a pretty young lady on his arm too In a message dated 10/26/2008 8:44:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve_noreen at msn.com writes: Hi Brantley, Let me know if you got my reply off list. I really enjoyed knowing Pat and was looking forward to seeing him at the Orlando show this year. What a great person, I will really miss him. Thanks so much for letting us know. Steve From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:34:52 -0400 To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Loss To Phono Collector Community We in the phono collecting circle in South Carolina/North Carolina/ Georgia have learned that Pat McFadden of South Georgia passed away on Tuesday. I met Pat at the North Carolina show a couple of years ago and he was truly a nice person with a passion for phonographs. He was very gracious and always willing to offer great advice. Also, does anyone know how I can contact Charlie Hummell? As always, thanks to all for this great thread. God bless! Brantley Williston, S.C. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics ? check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001)
[Phono-L] Columbia BF Peerless
that appears to be about an 800 to 1000 machine some of the bidders have low numbers mm could there be a shill here In a message dated 10/15/2008 6:23:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Bruce78rpm at comcast.net writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320309111547ssPageName=ADM E:B:WNA:US:1123 **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002)
[Phono-L] should I get Pay Pal?
a note to all i have been spamed by people on both ebay and paypal so leave the links along i always send them to spoof at both addresses In a message dated 9/23/2008 7:19:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ddazer at sbcglobal.net writes: I never got a Pay Pal account because most ebay sellers would take a check or money order. Over the years, I have heard of many problems with Pay Pal. Have those issues been resolved? Those of you who use Pay Pal, do you like it? Any advice in this matter is appreciated. I do sell some non-phono related items once in a while on Ebay, but I am not sure it is worth the risk of using Pay Pal. Dave ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001)
[Phono-L] COLOMBIA BGT
HI ALL THERE IS A GREAT BGT ON EBAY BEING SOLD BY FIREBOTTLES someone ask where to find one and i cant remember who sent me the email enjoy ebay number 190248713824 **Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514)
[Phono-L] More Ebay Pranks
HI ALL even more interesting is paypal will give 1099s for sales over 2. or transactions over 200 for the year according to an irs letter i got recently mm In a message dated 9/13/2008 2:47:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john9ten at pacbell.net writes: Hi all I wanted to hear your thoughts on this. I just got a notification email from Auctiva about changes eBay is putting in place in the coming months. One of them is that they are no longer going to allow paper payments, i.e. money orders or checks as a form of payment. Excuse me, but shouldn't it lie with the seller what form of payment to accept?? This is going to cost them a lot of business from sellers and buyers who will not use Paypal. Of course since eBay owns Paypal, they are foreseeing a swell of business and fees... Here is the text of eBay's communication on this: Beginning late October 2008, all items listed on eBay.com must be paid for using one of the following approved payment options: Direct credit or debit card payment via a merchant credit card account PayPal ProPay Payment on pick-up Paper payment methods such as checks and money orders will no longer be accepted on eBay.com. By January 2009, all approved electronic payment methods will be integrated into eBay checkout. For example, buyers will be able to enter their credit card number directly into eBay checkout, and the payment will be routed to the seller's Internet merchant account or to their PayPal account. Please note that the new payments policy will not apply to the vehicles categories in Motors, capital equipment categories in Business Industrial, Mature Audiences and Real Estate. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514)
[Phono-L] Columbia no. 5 reproducer repair for Columbia AO
hi ray you are right a ball stylus might work like for pathes its a neat reproducer and very much like a disc machine one but the kit you buy you need to make sure you have the sliding mount to put it on the tube where the horn goes is a bit bigger too so you have to adapt the horn a bit good luck to all the searches for it In a message dated 9/7/2008 9:12:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wilenzick at bellsouth.net writes: That's too bad, Zono, as the proper stylus may be tough to find. The kit to convert an AO to an AO/AW was made available by Columbia, but I don't recall seeing one for sale. The #8 reproducer is rare and was used only on the AO/AW and the AW (other than the MG which we don't have to talk about as few if any exist). I guess one reason to convert the AO, assuming the kit could be found, would be to have a much rarer machine with an unusual reproducer. Ray - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia no. 5 reproducer repair for Columbia AO hi ray et al on mine i cant tell you i still need to find an appropriate stylus mine did not come with one In a message dated 9/5/2008 11:19:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wilenzick at bellsouth.net writes: I have an AO, but not an AW. I have been told that the sound quality of the AW reproducer is inferior to that of the AO, so why would anyone want to convert the machines. Is that true? Ray - Original Message - From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia no. 5 reproducer repair for Columbia AO HI I have an ao and an aow the reproducer and the neck it sits on are totally different on these so be careful in trying to convert one In a message dated 9/3/2008 4:37:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, valecnik57-purc at yahoo.com writes: I'm looking for recommendations regarding someone who could expertly repair the reproducer on my Columbia AO. It's the floating type, a no. 5, I believe although it is not marked in any way. Would also be interested in the conversion kit to install the model 8 reproducer, which essentially converts an AO to an AW. Thanks, Bruce - ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514)
[Phono-L] Columbia no. 5 reproducer repair for Columbia AO
HI I have an ao and an aow the reproducer and the neck it sits on are totally different on these so be careful in trying to convert one In a message dated 9/3/2008 4:37:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, valecnik57-purc at yahoo.com writes: I'm looking for recommendations regarding someone who could expertly repair the reproducer on my Columbia AO. It's the floating type, a no. 5, I believe although it is not marked in any way. Would also be interested in the conversion kit to install the model 8 reproducer, which essentially converts an AO to an AW. Thanks, Bruce - ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
[Phono-L] Hexaphone Question
hi all if anyone needs a bowers book i think marty roenig at mechantiques has some copies or did at one time _Mechanical Music - antique music boxes for sale_ (http://www.mechantiques.com/) In a message dated 9/2/2008 10:56:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wilenzick at bellsouth.net writes: Shawn: According to Bowers' book, Enclopedia of Automatic Musical Instruments, the serial numbers are: Style 101: 101001 to 1011423 1909-1912 Style 102: 102001 to 1022475 1911-1915 Style 103: 103001 to 1031642 1914-1921 Style 104: 104001 to 1041677 1915-1921 Ray - Original Message - From: Shawn and Beth ban...@charter.net To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Cc: phono-l-request at oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Hexaphone Question I was hoping someone on the list could help me with a couple of detailed questions on a Hexaphone. Here we go. Besides the name plate, what is/are the significant difference(s) between the 102 and 103 models of Hexaphones? Is there any documentation out there on serial number series of the different models? Is there any good documentation/ information available on Hexaphones? I'd really appreciate any help that the list can give to me off, or on list. Thank you very much Shawn O'Rourke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
[Phono-L] Columbia BC friction wheel drive
paul baker used to restore these but he takes a long time to do it In a message dated 8/30/2008 3:49:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve_noreen at msn.com writes: Hi Greg, Does anyone make reproduction parts for these reproducers? Steve : [Phono-L] Columbia BC friction wheel drive Ron, it's difficult to explain the BC friction wheel driveshaft system without pictures or handwaving :o) The drive train begins with a gear-driven piece of metal tubing which is enclosed in the stationary outer housing which is fastened to the gear housing casting on the side of the machine. This first piece of tubing (call it part 1) rotates but does not translate axially. Inside this rotating tubing is the brass coupling sleeve (part 2) which can rotate and also slide along its axis. And inside the brass sleeve is the solid rod (part 3) which connects with the amber wheel. This part 3 rotates and also slides axially. Part 2 has two slots, diametrically opposed and milled into its outside surface that run almost the full length of the part. Part 1 transmits its torque via two setscrews which extend inward from Part 1 into the slots milled in part 2. (Access to these screws is via a hole drilled in the s tationary outer tube.) This allows Part 2 to be rotated by part 1 and also to slide axially inside part 1. Part 3 has a T shaped fixture at its end that engages two longitudinal slots milled INSIDE of part 2. This is what transmits the torque from part 2 to part 3 and also allows part 3 to translate axially. The slots inside of part 2 do not extend all the way to the ends of part 2. When part 3 is pulled along the mandrel with the reproducer, its T fixture hits the ends of the slots inside of part 2 and thereby drags part 2 along with it axially. All this assemblage has a purposefully sloppy fit to allow the amber wheel end of part 3 to wobble around radially so it can follow the stylus assembly as it is raised and lowered from the record surface. Clear as mud? Again, it's hard to envision what's happening without seeing the structure in detail. But maybe this helps understand it. Greg Bogantz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
[Phono-L] Edison Projector
HI ALL Just to add some trivia edison used his signature name on the id plate both on the kinetoscope and the idelia and these are interchangeable smart man to save money lol zono In a message dated 8/22/2008 5:03:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ClockworkHome at aol.com writes: Edison Kinetoscopes vary widely in value depending on what they are. Edison Home Kinetoscopes complete with reels, arc lamp ballast, and carrying case will command a price up to $2,000. It will go higher if any of the special film is with it as it will not run 35mm standard motion picture film. Edison traveling Kinetoscope Model A, B, C appeared in various forms. The most desirable is the one with movable lamp house and two lenses, one for the motion picture and the other for glass slides. These projecting Kinetoscopes can go to $7,000 if they have all the lenses, arms, base, crank, etc. If the item is a floor Kinetoscope let me know as I will be at the auction with a VERY large newly infused checkbook! The Models A, B, C have serial numbers and these are important to collectors of projection equipment. The earliest As are very hard to find as Edison tried to rent them out rather than sell them to maintain his control over the business. If all they have is the oak fold up cased projection head then you can expect a collector to bid up to $2,000 for it alone. The oak carry case was always one of the first things that gets separated from the projection head. Heads equipped with a shutter in front also sell for more. There are many variables that you need to describe before buying. Regards, Al Who has also collected Kinetoscopes... **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
[Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values
hi al only two copies have turned up as i know of kurt had bid one up dearly on ebay a few years back and the other he bought but i cant divulge the price he told me if you get one you will be very lucky and probably broke lol just kidding but as you know its a sellers market on that one In a message dated 8/14/2008 6:07:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cenfin at comcast.net writes: I still would like to complete my collection of Vogues, if anybody has Queen For A Day, that you are willing to sell, contact me off-line. Thanks Al Menashe - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values hi all i have many early victor picture records and they seem to hold up a bit better than the vogues but they are all fun to collect disney even had some sung by frank luther such as dance of the boogey man and the winnie the pooh group in the early thirties In a message dated 8/14/2008 4:44:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cdh041 at earthlink.net writes: Or, possibly that Saffady felt that the aluminum substrate, allied with the flexible plastic would make a virtually indestructable sandwich. Plastics were not as well understood in 1946 as they are now. And too, as I have to remind everyone I chat with, records, radios, cars, phonographs were not expected to be in service, or indeed, even existence 50 years after they were made. We have no right to demand eternal survival of anything more than perhaps, Gibraltar or the Rockies..and per Ira Gershwin, they're only made of clay! [Original Message] From: Greg Bogantz gbogantz1 at charter.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Date: 8/14/2008 4:26:03 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values Yes, the vinyl records from the postwar period have held up surprisingly well so far. Certainly better than magnetic tape from that period. If you can manage to find a Vogue that hasn't been played or scratched to death, the sound quality on them is pretty good. But one of their potential problems is the oxidation of the aluminum substrate. I have more than one Vogue that has been severely cracked or chipped in years past which has allowed moisture and air to get to the aluminum surface. This causes mild to severe powderizing and bubbling of oxide to form on the aluminum which then bubbles up the paper and vinyl sheet laid on top of it. This damage can usually be heard before it's seen - the bubbling causes a noticeable increase in the rumble content when you play the record. I'm not sure why Vogues were made with an aluminum substrate rather than using a vinyl core as is done with modern picture records. Might have been a patent infringement thing since RCA and others had made picture records in the 1930s. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: Douglas Houston cdh041 at earthlink.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values Indeed. There have been very few plastics that have had any permanence. Catalin has shown to be more stable than many others, but when the plasticizer finally dries out of the plasticx, it's curtains for the piece. In the thirties, plastics were all the panic. There were things shown in plastics that were downright sensational. I'm sure that a lot of people thought that glass would soon be made obsolete by gorgeous plastic things. Well, my mother and my aunt didn't throw out their cut crystal, and I now have a couple of cabinets full of it. In those days (that I remember so well), the automotive industry went ballistic over plastics too. Today, there are guys who re-mold steering wheels for those cars. The big plstic was Tenite I, a plastic by Tennessee Eastman in Kingsport, Tennessee. You'll travel long and far to see an original steering wheel on a prewar car!. However, I have a '38 Cadillac, with the original steering wheel, and still decent dash plastic, and you just don't ever see that. Which brings us to the Vogue records. Tom Saffady, a tool and die maker on East eight mile road in East Detroit (Across 8 Mile from Detroit) got the idea of making these pretty records. I understand that he used an aluminum base, attached the artwork to it, and molded the plastic to it, pressing the recording in the same operation. While I don't know for sure what the plastic is, I'm sure that it's a vinyl, and of the best quality at the time. When they hit the stores, they made quite a splash, and they sold well, more for their novel character than anything else. No surprise, they were
[Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values
hi you may be right on the repros i have a set of them also and they are good but they were done in 45rpm not 78 so if you are knowledgeable you can enjoy the real thing mostly the drop in price is the same for all collectibles the economy and we see that first hand in phonos except for the scarce ones but even the idelia has drop as evidenced by the latest sales all well under the two that sold for almost 40 k now really is the time to buy if you are flush enough too happy collecting zono In a message dated 8/13/2008 12:02:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cenfin at comcast.net writes: Ray, I think Ebay actually raised the value of vogues and there was a lot of activity for a long time on ebay. Many hit the market and it was not unusual to see them go for more than $100. But the prices started dropping quickly when a lot of reproduction Vogues hit the market. The repros looked pretty good and they were copies of some of the more desireable numbers. I compare that to the Wurlitzer 1015 where originals used to sell for $12,000. With the huge number of reproduction 1015s that played 45's and CD;s the value of originals dropped to $5000 to 6000. I may be wrong but I dont think it was Ebay so much as the proliferation of reproductions. Al Menashe - Original Message - From: wilenz...@bellsouth.net To: phonolist at yahoogroups.com; Phono-L at oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values Around 10 to 15 years ago, most Vogues (except the rare 8 or 9 ones) sold in the neighborhood of $100 or so. With the advent of eBay, their value has dropped significantly. It seems that most go for $20-$30 or less these days. Value guides were available at one time, but now are worthless. Are there any Vogue collectors on the list that would have a spreadsheet or other information on current values of these picture records? Is there a factor, such as 1/4 or 1/3 that could be applied to the old values that would approximate the current value? Thanks for any information.. Ray Wilenzick ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/955 - Release Date: 8/15/2007 4:55 PM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 )
[Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values
hi all queen for a day did go for a lot of money on ebay a few years ago and kurt was the underbidder but he already had one anyway i believe kurt sold all his collection on his auction awhile ago and had a starting price for them all In a message dated 8/13/2008 2:09:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esroberto at hotmail.com writes: Agreed, Ray. I don't think those Bear Family repro's were ever intended to substitute for the real thing, but to be some kind of tribute novelty to make noise for the label that issued them (probably just a passion of the owner). I have one of the repro's, and while the audio quality is decent, it's graphics don't look that great at all, not even half as sharp and detailed as any of the original Vogues I have. But I was curious about them, and now I know. That collection that was offered in Kurt Nauck's catalog a few auctions ago was stupifying, with all those one-off tests and what-have-you. I don't know how great an investment Vogues are right now either, but I was sure drooling over those pages for a while. Best, Robert - Original Message - From: wilenz...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values Thanks for your interesting comment on the Vogues. I agree with you on the reason for the drop in value of the Wurlitzer 1015, but I am not so sure the same argument applies to the Vogues. The 1015's were bought and sold as entertainment devices, and the bars, etc. that bought them for 45s and CDs could care less if they were original or reproduction machines. On the other hand, vogues were generally not bought for their music content, but rather as vintage collectibles. Prior to eBay, collectors considered them to be scarce items, and most record collectors, I would think, would have little interest in the reproductions. Once eBay demonstrated to the hobby that they were rather plentiful, the prices started to drop to the current low values. I don't know how well the reproduction Vogues are doing these days, but I don't see them advertised very much (although I don't look for them). Whatever the reason for the price decline, Vogues don't look like good investments these days :) Ray ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 )
[Phono-L] speaking of radios
hi all i just found a brunswick br 260 with an early battery radio in it now looking for a few parts for the radio the radio is a slide in drawer the radio is an ar 813 if someone has a dead one love to get some parts contact me off list if you do thanks zono **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 )
[Phono-L] Reginaphone parts needed!
jerry you might also try meekins music they do a lot of repro stuff at their place _Meekins Music Boxes_ (http://www.finest1.com/meekins/) Can anyone suggest where I can find the part in the Reginaphone where the tonearm and elbow attach. Does this part have a name? Thanks, Jerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 )
[Phono-L] Columbia AH
bruce et all there are two early ones too one has the speed control on top i have both here its like the early aj also with the top speed control In a message dated 7/30/2008 3:35:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maxbud12 at wowway.com writes: Guys, I will be happy to take some pics but it will be a day or two. I do not know the difference between early and late as I am mainly an Edison collector. I'd be happy to see some photos of one vs. late. It has round turned columns on the corners, ten inch turntable, an oxidized copper handle on one side and a decal...all this from memory. Seems like there is a three digit number scratched on the spring barrell. Paper sticker is on the bottom. The horn is black with a brass bell and the elbow looks gold plated. Someone please send me some pics and I will do the same. Maybe you can tell what it is from the description. Best, Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520)
[Phono-L] Repairing a Columbia one piece aluminum arm
hi why dont you just get it replaced it is not that expensive and there are many business that will do that with just nickel In a message dated 7/20/2008 1:50:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rvuill at comcast.net writes: I'm restoring a Columbia type BN outside horn phonograph. This machine has a one piece aluminum horn and an analyzing reproducer. The arm appears to have been plated originally. I assumed that I could buff the aluminum to a nice shine. My problem is that the surface is quite pitted and when I try to buff it, the dirty buffing compound winds up in all of the pits. I had planned on filling the pits with a car body filler and then priming it and painting it with a chrome paint that contains aluminum particles and gives a fair shine. A friend suggested I fill the pits with an aluminum epoxy and then polish it out. I've goggled epoxy aluminum and found a number of products. There are a couple of aluminum putty sticks mentioned but I can't tell if they can be polished like aluminum after they set. Have any of you used any products like this to repair aluminum arms? Secondly I would like to replace the rubber pad that fits between the Analyzing reproducer and the arm. Can anyone recommend a source for this piece or a suitable material to make one out of. I have enough of the old one to make a pattern. Lastly I would like to replace the 3 screws used to hold the reproducer to the arm . The ones I have are very rusty and won't hold the reproducer tightly to the arm. I did jury rig it well enough to make it work by backing up the 3 screws with some small rubber O rings and small washers. I would like to repair it properly and assume the correct screws will do it. Do any of you know the correct thread pitch of the screws or a source to replace them. Were any additional gaskets or washers used with these screws originally? Thanks in advance for your help. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520)
[Phono-L] AB's and gear oiling
hi all i found also real clock oil is expensive i am a clock collector also and have some that i got years ago best zono In a message dated 7/19/2008 4:10:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rich-mail at octoxol.com writes: Steve, Sewing machine oil is the bad one. Clock oil has RO inhibitors in it and starts as a highly refined base stock. It is OK and lasts for a very long time. It is a bit thin however and probably only should be used on governors. Steven Medved wrote: Hello Rich, I really appreciate this, I thought clock oil did not turn to varnish, but now I know. I am happy to learn about clock oil, I believe I have some. It is yellow and in an oiler like on the clock site. I always appreciate learning from you. Steve Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:05:50 -0500 From: rich-mail at octoxol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AB's and gear oiling Most sewing machine oil is a pure very light weight mineral oil and usually is devoid of any RO additive. It tends to oxidize over time to a carbon based varnish. RO is Rust and Oxidation, rust for the metal that is lubed and oxidation for the lubricant. Clock oil is a much higher refined product and does contain additives. If it is synthetic clock oil it will last almost forever and does not creep. Spring oil is another clock item that the phono folks should pick up on. Springs in open barrels probably should be greased, use a synthetic grease or you will be doing the job again in a couple of years. Steven Medved wrote: What is clock oil and how does it differ from sewing machine oil?Steve Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:35:28 -0500 From: rich-mail at octoxol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Su bj ect: Re: [Phono-L] AB's and gear oiling Dissimilar metals are self lubricating - no lube required. Similar metals require a very light coating of very pure oil, preferably synthetic. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520)
[Phono-L] Opera parts
hi all i have a original maroon cygnet back mount but they are very uncommon might sell for the right offer zono In a message dated 7/17/2008 10:04:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve_noreen at msn.com writes: Hi again, I'm looking for a maroon elbow and an Automatic Stop for an Opera for another friend. If anyone has any opera parts for sale let me know off list. Thanks so much. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520)
[Phono-L] Victor Artists Opera poster question
hi all i believe charlie hummel has these posters too In a message dated 7/18/2008 9:24:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jeffryy at prevea.com writes: This may have been framed many years ago by..., who knows? These posters are paper on canvas back. I purchaed mine (the English version) in San Francisco, unframed! It had a brass strip crimped to the top and bottom to keep it straight, and a central loop on the top strip of metal to hang the piece in the store. If you prefer to have it framed, it should at least be done archivally from a acid free matting and museum quality UV glass standpoint. If you like the original frame, use it. My poster, at least, was not originally meant to be framed. Dan you have seen my poster, and how I elected to frame it. Good luck! Sure a lot of stuff out there in Oregon! Jeff Wisconsin -Original Message- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Melvin Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:44 PM To: Phono-L at oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Artists Opera poster question I just aquired a very nice Victor Artists poster with the opera singers on it. It is nearly identical to the one in the Fabrizio/Paul book Antique Phonograph Advertising number 3-5. The differernce is that instead of Victor Artists is says Artistas Victor on it and there is a store address stamped on the back from a store in Mexico. Does anyone know if this would be from the same era as the American version? It apperas to be exactly the same poster. The label on the back is obviously the same one as on the American version as it is in English. Also, it has an old frame I believe to be the original but it does not look like the one in the book. Would differernt types of frames been normal for such advertising pictures. Should I try to get the original frame repaired so it's safe to hang or just refame it? Thanks for any info or ideas anyone has. Dan ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520)
[Phono-L] Price for a Columbia AB McDonald
HI ALL they do make repro large mandrels i paid a bit more for mine about eight years ago but the market is way down this year so look closely at the reproducer to make sure it is the better one and all is original good luck zono In a message dated 7/13/2008 10:12:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kbab1 at charter.net writes: Bruce, If it is any comparison, I paid about $1,500 at Union for a complete mint one with the correct mandrels and aluminum horn about three years ago from one of Jasper Sanfellipo's friends. An original large mandrel is very tough to find as are the aluminum horns. Ken B. -Original Message- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of BruceY Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:40 PM To: Phono-l at oldcrank.org Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Phono-L] Price for a Columbia AB McDonald I have a chance to buy a Columbia AB (MacDonald) Graphophone in excellent condition. It does not have the large slip on Mandrel to play the Concert Cylinders, but everything else is there, and cabinet is in beautiful shape, and it is in running condition. Serial Number is early in the run 752110. There is a strange little 10 by 4 wide black horn that comes with it which I think is probably off market. What sort of price would you estimate this AB (MacDonald) would be fair?? I looked on ebay and none have sold in the past month or so. Thanks in advance, Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
[Phono-L] Price for a Columbia AB McDonald
ray i agree with you on that if i could buy an ab for 1500 i would buy them by the dozen In a message dated 7/14/2008 12:25:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wilenzick at bellsouth.net writes: I agree with Dan. I sold an AB last year, with repro large mandrel and horn, for $2250. A well-known collector was asking $2500 for a nice one, also with repro mandrel and horn. Getting one with original large mandrel and original horn for $1500 was a great buy. However, the current phono market seems depressed, so last year's prices don't apply. Ray - Original Message - From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Price for a Columbia AB McDonald I think the prices being quoted are quite low for a complete AB McDonald. 3 years ago the common price I saw was more like $2100. I would say $1500 was a steal and not usual. This is based on Ebay and Union sales I'm familiar with. Dan On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Bob rvuill at comcast.net wrote: Hi Bruce, I don't know how you find so many goodies. I think a complete AB McDonald with both mandrels is worth about 1200 to 1500 dollars. A Columbia model B in good shape goes for about $400. Therefore, without the larger mandrel and the correct aluminum horn I would say the one you are looking at would be worth between $700 and $1000. Obviously, I would pay little more If I had a source for the larger mandrel. You might check with the dealers on this list to see if a mandrel is available and what it costs. I don't think anyone makes a reproduction mandrel. We have an excellent machinist in the mocaps group and I bet he could turn one for you. Bob - Original Message - From: BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net To: Phono-l at oldcrank.org Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Price for a Columbia AB McDonald I have a chance to buy a Columbia AB (MacDonald) Graphophone in excellent condition. It does not have the large slip on Mandrel to play the Concert Cylinders, but everything else is there, and cabinet is in beautiful shape, and it is in running condition. Serial Number is early in the run 752110. There is a strange little 10 by 4 wide black horn that comes with it which I think is probably off market. What sort of price would you estimate this AB (MacDonald) would be fair?? I looked on ebay and none have sold in the past month or so. Thanks in advance, Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1546 - Release Date: 7/11/2008 6:47 AM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
[Phono-L] ***SPAM*** Re: Edison Idelia at Union
hi all a friend of mine has two idelias and a alva alva is also just a electric triumph In a message dated 7/4/2008 10:24:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wilenzick at bellsouth.net writes: So is an ALVA, but do you have one of them? - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ***SPAM*** Re: Edison Idelia at Union THATS A question terry baer can field also he has a list of all the idelias made known to present they are a great machine but nothing more than a glorified triumph mine is in the 83000 range and is a d 2 In a message dated 7/4/2008 5:08:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, valecnik57-purc at yahoo.com writes: I just wanted to confirm that Rene Rondeau is right. The Idelia at Union and the one purchased from the Donleys, (currently at phonogalerie in Paris) are indeed two different machines. The one at Union is a B model with endgate and small carriage. The serial numbber is 66169. The one sold on eBAY and now in Paris is a D2 with serial number 83307D2. It has a large carriage for an O reproduceer. Bruce Johnson Pod Valem II, 870 252 43 Pruhonice Czech Republic Tel: (CZ) + 420 602 362 473 Tel: (US) + 1 612 605 5242 .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
[Phono-L] ***SPAM*** Re: Edison Idelia at Union
the machine at the lightner museum is there but that is all its a d and no horn is there it is sad it has not been kept up better but at least it is in a glass class zono In a message dated 7/4/2008 10:29:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, appywander at hotmail.com writes: There is an Idelia at the O.C. Lightener Museum (late publisher of Hobbies magazine) in St. Augustine, Fla., that has a presentation plaque affixed to it: William Howard Taft with best wishes, Thomas A. Edison. It is a Model D #74910. Sorry for the disinformation re: the Idelia at Union . . . that is what I heard more than once. From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:22:34 -0400 To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ***SPAM*** Re: Edison Idelia at Union THATS A question terry baer can field also he has a list of all the idelias made known to present they are a great machine but nothing more than a glorified triumph mine is in the 83000 range and is a d 2 In a message dated 7/4/2008 5:08:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, valecnik57-purc at yahoo.com writes: I just wanted to confirm that Rene Rondeau is right. The Idelia at Union and the one purchased from the Donleys, (currently at phonogalerie in Paris) are indeed two different machines. The one at Union is a B model with endgate and small carriage. The serial numbber is 66169. The one sold on eBAY and now in Paris is a D2 with serial number 83307D2. It has a large carriage for an O reproduceer. Bruce Johnson Pod Valem II, 870 252 43 Pruhonice Czech Republic Tel: (CZ) + 420 602 362 473 Tel: (US) + 1 612 605 5242 .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
[Phono-L] ***SPAM*** Re: Edison Idelia at Union
THATS A question terry baer can field also he has a list of all the idelias made known to present they are a great machine but nothing more than a glorified triumph mine is in the 83000 range and is a d 2 In a message dated 7/4/2008 5:08:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, valecnik57-purc at yahoo.com writes: I just wanted to confirm that Rene Rondeau is right. The Idelia at Union and the one purchased from the Donleys, (currently at phonogalerie in Paris) are indeed two different machines. The one at Union is a B model with endgate and small carriage. The serial numbber is 66169. The one sold on eBAY and now in Paris is a D2 with serial number 83307D2. It has a large carriage for an O reproduceer. Bruce Johnson Pod Valem II, 870 252 43 Pruhonice Czech Republic Tel: (CZ) + 420 602 362 473 Tel: (US) + 1 612 605 5242 .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
[Phono-L] KEN DANKA
HI ALL DOES ANYONE HAVE KEN DANKA EMAIL ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER THANKS ZONO **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
[Phono-L] Looking for decent K reproducer
PAUL BAKER USED TO DO THESE WITH GOOD RESULTS BUT ITS NOT INEXPENSIVE BEST TO ALL In a message dated 6/14/2008 2:12:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jimcip at earthlink.net writes: Can Mr. Medved restore the Columbia Higham reproducers used in Twentieth Century Graphophones?If so, I have a couple that need help. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances jimcip at earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. [Original Message] From: Robert Wright esroberto at hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Date: 6/13/2008 1:02:56 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for decent K reproducer Hey Chris, Let me officially be the third person to recommend Steve Medved to you for any reproducer work. His knowledge is unlimited, and I'll put the reproducer he reworked for me up against anyone's for volume and sheer clarity. Best, Robert - Original Message - From: Chris Kocsis chrisk33 at cox.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for decent K reproducer Hi Al, many thanks for the reply. I'll remember what you say if I find a K. For now I have decided to get an H and have a line on one. You are the second person to refer me to Steve Medved and I'm grateful for that information! Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
[Phono-L] Concert Reproducer - Union
hi ron i wish it was a rigid arm one its still a good one In a message dated 6/3/2008 9:39:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ronbrink at aol.com writes: I'll be bringing a Victor Concert Reproducer pulled off a small Victor machine. It is marked FOR TAPER ARM serial no. 18911. It has been professionally rebuilt and sounds great. asking $300. contact me off line if your interested. Thanks Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302)
[Phono-L] zinc horn
hi mine does too but this is a 30 inch cylinder machine horn thanks rob -Original Message- From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 8:16 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] zinc horn My Victor R has a zinc bell horn. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote: hello all i just got back from vermont and bought a 30 inch bell zinc horn i have a witches one now but wondered how many of the zincs are out there anyone else have any i am sure george or tim must best to all zono **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] zinc horn
hi george i got mine in vt for 50 dollars now straightening the bell for around 125 what do you value yours at thanks rob -Original Message- From: gpaul2...@aol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:00 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] zinc horn As a matter of fact, I have a 30 zinc horn for cylinder at a polisher now.? How did you know...? George Paul -Original Message- From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 7:21 pm Subject: [Phono-L] zinc horn hello all i just got back from vermont and bought a 30 inch bell zinc horn i have a witches one now but wondered how many of the zincs are out there anyone else have any i am sure george or tim must best to all zono **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] zinc horn
hi this one is for a cylinder machine? 30 inches strange thanks rob -Original Message- From: stan stanford s...@clarphon.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 9:43 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] zinc horn My Victor R also has a Zinc Bell Horn. Stan Stanford - Original Message - From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] zinc horn My Victor R has a zinc bell horn. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote: hello all i just got back from vermont and bought a 30 inch bell zinc horn i have a witches one now but wondered how many of the zincs are out there anyone else have any i am sure george or tim must best to all zono **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] zinc horn
HI RENEE ET ALL its just nice to fine some bargains are still out there zono In a message dated 5/21/2008 1:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, TAEdisonJR at aol.com writes: I one had an all-zinc 30 horn which I got with an Edison 'suitcase' Standard. It was a great horn, I wish I'd kept it! Best regards, Rene Rondeau In a message dated 5/21/2008 9:17:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, zonophone2006 at aol.com writes: hi this one is for a cylinder machine? 30 inches strange thanks rob -Original Message- From: stan stanford s...@clarphon.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 9:43 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] zinc horn My Victor R also has a Zinc Bell Horn. Stan Stanford - Original Message - From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] zinc horn My Victor R has a zinc bell horn. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote: hello all i just got back from vermont and bought a 30 inch bell zinc horn i have a witches one now but wondered how many of the zincs are out there anyone else have any i am sure george or tim must best to all zono **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302)
[Phono-L] zinc horn
hello all i just got back from vermont and bought a 30 inch bell zinc horn i have a witches one now but wondered how many of the zincs are out there anyone else have any i am sure george or tim must best to all zono **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301)
[Phono-L] WANTED: Original Mahogany Victor Speartip
hi all you should have been at brimfield mass last weekend a victor 6 turned up with the wood horn for 3500 its a great show zono In a message dated 5/11/2008 3:44:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ElCaminoNYC at aol.com writes: Since I will not be able to head to Union I figured I would try hereI know it will not be easyLooking for an original Victor Mahogany Speartip horn for my Victor VIWILLING TO PAY A PREMIUMPlease contact me off line---at _elcaminonyc at aol.com_ (mailto:elcaminonyc at aol.com) Thank you **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301)
[Phono-L] Type BZH Hornless
hello john et all i have a bzh yes they are columbia and on the bottom it does say hornless machine its not a very common machine but also its not all that valuable best to all zono In a message dated 12/30/2007 9:28:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, appywan...@hotmail.com writes: I've been emailing back and forth with the eBay seller of a BZH Hornless. I've provided him with all the information I can give him about these machines, which isn't much, and largely educated guesses. He is under the impression that BZH was the company that made them, while I'm certain they are a Columbia product. I don't believe they were in the regular catalog, so where they made for a re-seller? What year exactly? Thanks, John ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) From zonophone2...@aol.com Sun Dec 30 14:54:40 2007 From: zonophone2...@aol.com (zonophone2...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 30 14:54:49 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Type BZH Hornless Message-ID: d4b.1cd0b052.34a97...@aol.com hi tim et all the reproducer is different on the ebay bzh than your bz mine is the same as the ebay one and looks to be later version of the columbia reproducer best to all and happy new year zono In a message dated 12/30/2007 10:56:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, phonop...@aol.com writes: _www.phonophan.com/bzcabinet.jpg_ (http://www.phonophan.com/bzcabinet.jpg) **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) From lhera...@bu.edu Sun Dec 30 17:40:09 2007 From: lhera...@bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sun Dec 30 17:41:01 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Cheap C-19 DD Message-ID: 000201c84b4e$1787d7d0$2f01a...@ronlherault I have found a mahogany C-19 that is looking for a home. It has suffered water damage to its lower two inches or so, and needs veneer help there as well as on its lid. It is complete, no missing trim bits or hardware. It is mechanically complete as well and played a DD with no problem. There are maybe 15 or so disks with it. It is located in Seekonk, MA, off rt. 44 near the Rehoboth town line. If you are interested in a project, contact me off list and I'll provide a phone and e-mail for the owners. They need to get rid of it to empty out a house and will let it go for short money. Ron L
[Phono-L] Edison Model H
Mike you can buy horns of any colour i had one that was green with flowers a long time ago also if you like good new old ones the smiths do a great job painting on the old ones zono ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From antqf...@yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 21:33:35 2007 From: antqf...@yahoo.com (brice paris) Date: Fri Sep 7 21:45:28 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Home Under Glass Message-ID: 208485.10789...@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com I have a very good friend that wants to sell his Edison home under glass. He has asked me to list it on eBay or sell it any other way I could, as he needs the money. I believe that he is asking a very fair price based on the condition , etc, so thought I would offer it up to the list first. He lives approximately 2 1/2 hours from me and I will not be picking it up and inspecting it for a week or so. He is asking $3,750.00 for it. The last ones i have seen sell went for around $5000+. I have not seen this machine for some time so my description is from memory and talking to him. The case has been refinished , and while the glass is old the woodwork on the glass lid has all been very professionally replaced with old quartered oak. I can't remember for sure if the pulls are original or replaced and he does not know , nor since he is elderly can he describe them to me very well so i can make a judgment, I am pretty sure though that they are not the original ones. The below cylinder cabinet is the standard HS cabinet , but it does not have the applied carving above the top drawer as i have seen on most of them. i has the pressed design that you generally see on the cylinder cabinet alone. It is however my understanding and in looking a HS big picture ad I believe that the Hm UG originally could have been offered with this style cabinet also. The Home model A's bed plate as i remember it is in fair condition , but certainly presentable. I am told it had taken a beating in a shed with the lid off prior to his purchase about 10 years ago. I don't remember the crank, but know it is not the normal nickel crank which came with these. He has a repo horn with it. I believe this is a really good deal and if i didn't have a real nice one already I would be buying it. I think this is a great opportunity to buy one at a reasonable price, if you have a desire to own one. By the way all money is going to him I have not added anything on for my troubles. If anyone has an interest in it please contact me off list at paris_br...@yahoo.com or call me on my cell 530 945 2221.brice From clockworkh...@aol.com Fri Sep 7 23:53:45 2007 From: clockworkh...@aol.com (clockworkh...@aol.com) Date: Fri Sep 7 23:57:49 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Model H what? Message-ID: c34.1a809abf.3413a...@aol.com In a message dated 9/7/2007 2:30:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mgrazia...@o-lite.com writes: ANyone know the approx value of an Edison Model H with a green horn? Plays 2 or 4 minute cylinders. The green horn has hand painted flowers, which I doubt is original. It's for sale locally for $650. THanks, Mike Greetings Mike: There is no such Edison domestic Phonograph as a Model H. The only Model H items I know of are a Model H coin operated machine and a Model H 4 minute reproducer. You see this misidentification all the time on eBay. People think the machine model is what is written on the reproducer tail. Triumph machines went to a Model G, Homes to an F, Standards to a G, Gems to an E, and Firesides to a B. Not an H among them. Assuming your machine is a Model D Standard equipped with a Model H reproducer and with a green painted Babson horn and crane, the eBay prices average $400 to $600 depending on condition and horn decoration. Babson horns can go from 6 panels up to 11 panels as commonly offered on eBay. The small plain horns do not command the prices of the largest 11 panel horns done in translucent clear coat with hand painted flowers. TTCo horns go for a bit more depending on their condition and decoration. Occasionally you will see a larger brass belled Standard Amplifying Horn painted green rather than black. There are many variables in determining Edison machine value. You need to supply more information for a more accurate estimate. Is this an eBay sale? If so, give the number and knowledgeable collectors on this learned list can give you a fairly good estimate of value. One eBay effect is the continued lowering of prices on common cylinder machines. My guess is that is due to a lack of decent cylinder records to play. There is just something uninspiring about Toots Paka's Hawaiians. Best wishes, Al Edison Collector of cylinder machines... Who wouldn't know how to work a flat record machine... ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From mari...@optusnet.com.au Fri Sep 7 19:19:33 2007 From:
[Phono-L] Mystery
HEY RON good to see i am not the only one who drove triumps lol mine was a 1955 tr2 best to all zono ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From lhera...@bu.edu Wed Sep 5 13:02:44 2007 From: lhera...@bu.edu (Ron L) Date: Wed Sep 5 13:12:28 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery In-Reply-To: d59.12fff784.34106...@aol.com Message-ID: 005201c7eff7$b919b9e0$90d42...@ad.bu.edu I still drive one, a '73 TR-6, or I will when the child support payments end and I get the seats rebuilt.For now I just start it up occasionally, drive it around the driveway a bit and put it back in the garage. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:46 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery HEY RON good to see i am not the only one who drove triumps lol mine was a 1955 tr2 best to all zono ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] san francisco bound
thank you to all ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From appywan...@hotmail.com Fri Jul 27 06:37:26 2007 From: appywan...@hotmail.com (John Maeder) Date: Fri Jul 27 06:39:02 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] San Francisco bound Message-ID: bay106-f8f14ea0524b4fc7f1380fdc...@phx.gbl In the mid-1980's when I lived in California, I was in Folsom for the first time. In the window of a closed antique shop was a Leon Scott de Martinville Phonoautograph! I about fainted! I called the number on the door and the proprietor came over and opened the shop for me. Also in the shop was an S. Bergmann exhibition tinfoil! Turns out the proprietor -- Norm Solgas -- and his father built both these machines in the late 1950's from plans provided by the Edison Historic Site. Norm's father had been a machinist in the Navy during WW II and built them after he mustered out. Through me, the tinfoil went to Bob Bresnick of LA, who had the flywheel returned to more accurate dimensions provided by Ray Phillips, and had an exact reproduction wooden base with foil drawer built for it. From there it went to John Woodward who had a master pinstriper go over it. It was beautiful when it was finished. I believe Woody sold it around 1990 or so. I don't know where it -- or the replica Phonoautograph -- are today. Another SoCal collector friend of mine who is now approaching 70, was in Benecia in the early 1960's when he was a pup collector. There is a huge used furniture/antique store downtown (I'm sure it is probably still in business) that has been there for decades. He bought approximately 100 mint Concert and Grand cylinders there for a couple dollars apiece! He said there were several antique dressers with the drawers chock full of them. He also said they used to have dozens of phonographs back then. Ahhh . . . the good old days! I thought about his cylinder find every time I went in that place.Have a great weekend all! John
[Phono-L] OT-vintage car
KUDOS TO YOU RENE YOU ARE BRAVER THAN ME OLD CARS ARE FUN BUT THEY CAN GET TOO EXPENSIVE IF SOMEONE HITS YOU ENJOY ZONO ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From john9...@pacbell.net Mon Jun 25 19:09:06 2007 From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Mon Jun 25 19:11:23 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] My A-250 Message-ID: 930945.56408...@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com Here are the pics of mine including the different corner designs than on the other two. I am very proud of the condition of the enamel on the bedplate and the horn. Someone took care of this machine. Except that they locked it, and I guess lost the key, because the lock was cut with a hacksaw blade to free the lid... My survey is below the link. John RObles http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Edison%20A-250/ THE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1) Model number: A-250 1a) Serial number: SM-12080 1b) Serial number stamped on bedplate, under platter, if different: 5751 A1 2) Type of start/stop levers: Late - non adjustable stop position 3) Bedplate corner detail: Early, I think - dots are in different place than early or late. 4) Number of pivoting oil hole covers on bedplate: 2 5) Tone modulator Present? Yes vertical early design 6) Type of key escutcheon: No nail holes - follows outline 7) Depth inside the upper groove that accommodates top of grill: 1/4? 7a) Grill top bottom width: 3/4? 7b) Thickness of fretwork portion of grill: 1/4 7c) Overall height of outer grill frame: 13 3/4 8) Louvres on cabinet: No 9) Side veneer, number of sections per side: 1 10) Form 632 present? Yes 10a) Location of Form 632: Upside down inside back door 10b) Printer?s date at bottom of Form 632: 4/3/14 11) Latest patent date on dataplate: 3/11/13 ) 12 Other notes: 13) Owner : John D. Robles
[Phono-L] west point clarification sent to al sefl from my friend
** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. - Forwarded Message: Subj: WEST POINT HORN Date: 6/24/2007 1:14:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: _MR PROPANE_ (mailto:MR PROPANE) To: _ClockworkHome_ (mailto:ClockworkHome) HELLO AL, THE WEST POINT HORN WAS MADE FOR THE EDIPHONE, NOT FOR THE PHONOGRAPH. IT WAS MADE LONG AFTER THE OUTSIDE HORN CYLINDER MACHINES WERE HISTORY. THE FROW BOOK IS WRONG AND HAS BEEN DISSEMINATING THIS FALSEHOOD ALL TO LONG. I HAVE SAID NOTHING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS BUT NOW SOME FOOL PAID $4600+ ON EBAY FOR ONE OF THESE JUNKERS. (I THINK IT WAS THE ONE I SOLD TO BILL ENDLEIN 30 YEARS AGO.) FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT ME ANYTIME. HOWARD HAZELCORN mrprop...@aol.com 941-921-1815 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From a...@popyrus.com Sun Jun 24 16:25:04 2007 From: a...@popyrus.com (Andrew Baron) Date: Sun Jun 24 16:26:10 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] -vintage car- MY post NOT ot In-Reply-To: 240425.75182...@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com References: 240425.75182...@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com Message-ID: 33d2c768-4549-4aac-9016-c0735f09f...@popyrus.com Well, I sometimes bring a Victor 2-55 portable with me in my '29 Chevy coupe, but when I was courting my wife a mere 18 years ago, the phonograph I brought along in the car then was a ca. 1927 Silvertone portable with a remarkably good tone quality. When driving this car, I play various period music on a concealed cassette player (eventually to be updated to CD, I suppose), with 12 volts supplied by a power inverter. Similar setup in the '50 Pontiac convertible. In the '29, it's usually early Duke Ellington or Vaughan DeLeath and some mixed tapes to further the illusion while driving. The '29 is basically unrestored original, dark green with black fenders, brown corduroy interior, with about 36,000 original miles (yes, I drive it but just now and then, and enjoy every mile). In the '50 it's typically Nat King Cole, Ink Spots or Les Paul Mary Ford. The Pontiac is Rio red with beige canvas power top; all restored from an extremely weathered but solid New Mexico foundation. People thought I was crazy to try to restore that car given the sad shape it was in, but just as I'm sure some of us do with phonographs, I could see the beauty inherent in the design and couldn't resist the opportunity to bring it out. Photos of either can be emailed to anyone who might wish to see them. I'd love to find one of those underdash 45 players. I've only had one in my restoration shop over the years. No doubt they're tough on records, but WHAT a novelty! Andy Baron On Jun 24, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Dennis Back wrote: Ok...since we now are replying ON list, 1931 Ford Model A Sport Coupe 1963 Ford Falcon convertible Come to think of it. when I take my Sport Coupe out, I have a Mikkiphone pocket phonograph hanging from the dash, with 78's of Henry's Made a Lady out of Lizzie and Since Henry Ford Apologized to Me stored on the package tray for playing. I must say, the Mikkiphone sometimes gets MORE attention than the '31 Sport Coupe. And in my Falcon, I have a 45 rpm record changer that stacks a dozen 45's and plays them UPSIDE DOWN. Dennis __ __ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Need help with CooCoo Clock (off topic)
hi mike et all i know it can be frustratiing i collect clocks too and my man charges me a minimum of 185 to clean them but they are older than what you are describing maybe someone in the music box society on this list can recommend someone who does bellows on the crank organs from what i have seen its not too hard to do best to all rob ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From zonophone2...@aol.com Wed Jun 13 21:45:01 2007 From: zonophone2...@aol.com (zonophone2...@aol.com) Date: Wed Jun 13 21:52:37 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Thea Cramer Message-ID: c13.18662015.33a22...@aol.com hi anil please give the family my condolensces as the only email i had was aarons aaron was a good man and now thea is with him zono ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From cen...@comcast.net Thu Jun 14 10:46:23 2007 From: cen...@comcast.net (Albert) Date: Thu Jun 14 10:47:40 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Reproducers Message-ID: 000d01c7aeab$ec88afd0$c801a...@albert I have two spare reproducers for my Amberola 1. the Model L and the Model A. I want to sell one of them. Are they of equal value or is the L worth more? Thanks Al Menashe From phonop...@aol.com Thu Jun 14 12:51:46 2007 From: phonop...@aol.com (phonop...@aol.com) Date: Thu Jun 14 12:52:54 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Reproducers Message-ID: d06.11f1d17a.33a2f...@aol.com My experience is the L is somewhat less common and probably worth a tad more than the A. Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 747 Henrietta, NY 14467 TEL 585 582 1586 FAX 585 582 2624 Web site: www.phonophan.com ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From cen...@comcast.net Thu Jun 14 15:05:30 2007 From: cen...@comcast.net (Albert) Date: Fri Jun 15 12:53:22 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Reproducers Message-ID: 000801c7aed0$1f76abd0$c801a...@albert Wow, thanks for all the responses, I got dozens of them. the consensus of opinon is the Model A is worth $550. and the Model L is worth $650. Therefore I will sell the L. It is in excellent condition, looks good and plays great. First Phonolister who responds will get it for $610.00 and I will pay the shipping. Al Menashe From steve_nor...@msn.com Fri Jun 15 19:02:35 2007 From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Fri Jun 15 19:03:23 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Glass diaphragms for automatic and early B's Message-ID: bay102-w68bb22248d80733e492c3f6...@phx.gbl I finally found new glass diaphragms. $10 each or $70 for 10 post paid.http://www.cylinder.de/index2.html From lhera...@bu.edu Fri Jun 15 19:25:28 2007 From: lhera...@bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Fri Jun 15 19:26:53 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Glass diaphragms for automatic and early B's In-Reply-To: bay102-w68bb22248d80733e492c3f6...@phx.gbl Message-ID: 003101c7afbd$a05b5b90$2f01a...@ronlherault Do they fit recorders too? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:03 PM To: Phono-l Subject: [Phono-L] Glass diaphragms for automatic and early B's I finally found new glass diaphragms. $10 each or $70 for 10 post paid.http://www.cylinder.de/index2.html_ __ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Anyone have contact information for Glen Gurwit?
-Original Message- From: msprin...@juno.com msprin...@juno.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:49 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Anyone have contact information for Glen Gurwit? I meet the dealer Glen Gurwit at each Wayne phonograph show, but don't have any contact information for him. Do any of you know how I might get in touch with him? Thanks! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From zonophone2...@aol.com Thu May 31 11:10:44 2007 From: zonophone2...@aol.com (zonophone2...@aol.com) Date: Thu May 31 11:12:36 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Anyone have contact information for Glen Gurwit? In-Reply-To: 20070531.095022.14627.237...@webmail10.dca.untd.com References: 20070531.095022.14627.237...@webmail10.dca.untd.com Message-ID: 8c971c6240bc5c6-1028-1...@webmail-rc03.sysops.aol.com hi merle i forwarded your request to glen best to all zono -Original Message- From: msprin...@juno.com msprin...@juno.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:49 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Anyone have contact information for Glen Gurwit? I meet the dealer Glen Gurwit at each Wayne phonograph show, but don't have any contact information for him. Do any of you know how I might get in touch with him? Thanks! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From zonophone2...@aol.com Thu May 31 11:16:18 2007 From: zonophone2...@aol.com (zonophone2...@aol.com) Date: Thu May 31 11:17:43 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph crane needed In-Reply-To: 000801c7a399$0fc48690$6101a...@wilenzick References: 000801c7a399$0fc48690$6101a...@wilenzick Message-ID: 8c971c6eb17e54e-1028-1...@webmail-rc03.sysops.aol.com hi ' dennis and patty valente have the repro crane they or musical americana may have the rest or maybe walt might zono -Original Message- From: wilenz...@bellsouth.net To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; Phono-L@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, 31 May 2007 11:33 am Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph crane needed I need the tall crane for a Triumph, horizontal reproducer, and No. 11 cygnet. Anybody have one for sale? Or can you suggest a supplier of the proper one for this set-up? Thanks. Ray ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From zonophone2...@aol.com Thu May 31 11:15:15 2007 From: zonophone2...@aol.com (zonophone2...@aol.com) Date: Thu May 31 11:23:40 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia In-Reply-To: 000c01c7a263$31d98730$632bd...@dimension References: 000c01c7a263$31d98730$632bd...@dimension Message-ID: 8c971c6c5752780-1028-1...@webmail-rc03.sysops.aol.com hi all jackie check on ebay i have found them there just be careful the bkt and and bo can differ in their connections with the lyric if you need any pictures of them contact me offlist happy collecting zono -Original Message- From: Jackie Burwell emer...@wheatstate.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:35 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia I''m looking for the top half of a Columbia BKT, BO, or BQ, in any condition. All I have for the top is the lyric reproducer. Thanks Jackie ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
[Phono-L] Re:Book: A World of Antique Phonographs
hi george i am not going to union this year i paid for the book so when you get it just send it along hope all is well rob ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From victr...@triton.net Sun Apr 29 09:07:47 2007 From: victr...@triton.net (George) Date: Sun Apr 29 09:14:54 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Re:Book: A World of Antique Phonographs References: be0.11d1ef18.3365b...@aol.com Message-ID: 170101c78a78$87e61560$6811a...@valuedcb7d4c82 I think you want George Paul not me. George Vollema - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Re:Book: A World of Antique Phonographs hi george i am not going to union this year i paid for the book so when you get it just send it along hope all is well rob ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/778 - Release Date: 4/27/2007 1:39 PM
[Phono-L] Shellac coated brass horn on Zonophone
hi all good response jeff but bill kocher is from vernon connecticut and his cranks are great best to all zono From gpaul2...@aol.com Sat Jan 13 08:53:27 2007 From: gpaul2...@aol.com (gpaul2...@aol.com) Date: Sat Jan 13 08:53:47 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Protective Coatings on Brass Horns In-Reply-To: 6c7ea97ca5292848b80f204f38a7375204880...@mercury.prevea.com Message-ID: 8c9054a7b05e5da-474-5...@webmail-ma15.sysops.aol.com A century ago, brass horns were given a coat of lacquer to prevent them from tarnishing (lacquer has been around for centuries). This was brushed on, and when found today with original lacquer still intact, the brush strokes are often apparent. Like others who responded to this thread, I have never seen a century-old brass horn retaining its original lacquer and still shining like new. The lacquer wears with handling and cleaning over the years, and the brass begins to oxidize. 20 or 30 years ago, there was a collecting contingent who claimed that patina (tarnished original finishes) on brass phonograph horns should be preserved at all costs. This struck me at the time as tantamount to preserving rust -- and neither rust nor tarnish were original equipment on phonographs! I've been happy in observing that virtually all the advanced collections I've seen in the past decade have featured newly polished and lacquered brass horns, preserving them for another 100 years. George Paul Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. From glast...@edisongallery.com Sat Jan 13 10:00:08 2007 From: glast...@edisongallery.com (George Glastris) Date: Sat Jan 13 10:00:13 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Protective Coatings on Brass Horns References: 8c9054a7b05e5da-474-5...@webmail-ma15.sysops.aol.com Message-ID: 172001c7373c$a9f2b710$8248a...@none05vofc1vwp I feel I should add to George Paul's comments on lacquered brass. First of all I am not fully knowledgeable on types of lacquer used in horns. However, with other types of brass ware, namely scientific instruments (microscopes, telescopes, surveying instruments, et al) the lacquer used can and does often survive in excellent condition. Any cleaning/polishing of this finish can and often does lead to the loss of the original finish and can and does lower the value of the instrument, sometimes by more than half. A shiny new looking instrument compared to one that has a respectable, yet aged patina, is not only un-acceptable with collectors, but often shunned. I'd like to pass on a story that happened when I was the scientific and mechanical music specialist at Christie's in London. A couple brought in a very important early brass quadrant (17th century if my memory serves me right). They knew nothing about it, having found it in the attic of a deceased relatives home. We explained that it was not only valuable, but quite important historically, and that it would fetch 10s of thousands of pounds. They wanted to think about it over the weekend and left. Sure enough on Monday morning they returned wanting to consign it. But, thinking they knew best, they had gotten the brass cleaner out and polished the hell out of it, thus slashing the value down by many, many thousands. As George says, 20-30 years ago a tarnished horn was more accepted than a re-polished horn and that has now changed. However, who is to say in a few years it won't revert to the old way. Also, think about how aged looking it is. Is the brass as black as can be or is it just a slightly darkened brass? Patina is important to many collectors and once lost can not be replaced. Some phonograph horns do darken considerably due to the loss of the lacquer and especially due to the polishing off of the lacquer. The reason for the lacquer was not only protection of the metal itself but to keep from having to polish the brass. So, the point of my message is this: before polishing brass of any type decide for yourself if it really is too far gone or if you may not keep the machine the rest of your life. Best to all, George Glastris - Original Message - From: gpaul2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Protective Coatings on Brass Horns A century ago, brass horns were given a coat of lacquer to prevent them from tarnishing (lacquer has been around for centuries). This was brushed on, and when found today with original lacquer still intact, the brush strokes are often apparent. Like others who responded to this thread, I have never seen a century-old brass horn retaining its original lacquer and still shining like new. The lacquer wears with handling and cleaning over the years, and the brass begins to oxidize. 20 or 30 years ago, there was a
[Phono-L] The List and Excitment about phonographs
hi all i bought my first machine back in 1963 it was a victrola table model for 5 dollars i was going to buy a edison standard but the price was 10 dollars and at thirteen that was a lot of money then lol happy new year to all zono From a...@popyrus.com Wed Dec 27 13:46:57 2006 From: a...@popyrus.com (Andrew Baron) Date: Wed Dec 27 13:47:33 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] The List and Excitment about phonographs In-Reply-To: bc2ea8740612270808w42990d24pdb349101c933d...@mail.gmail.com References: 001c01c7296e$1bc1de20$6401a...@tonyandjose bc2ea8740612270808w42990d24pdb349101c933d...@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: 8d7bcfc8-b243-41c2-bb0e-3d1783d69...@popyrus.com I was 12 years old when I got my first old phonograph. This was in 1974, and the machine, which I paid for with lawn-mowing earnings and a Morgan silver dollar was a lowly Berg-Artone suitcase style portable. It had a broken governor, damaged diaphragm, very black greasy motor etc., but it also was my first phonograph repair teacher, in a manner of speaking. I used to drag any willing adult into my world just long enough to play the machine for them. This was often as not met with the comment It's amazing that it still works, followed by my boring them with the details of the work it needed and the repairs I carried out. I used to think it a trick question when they asked how I knew what to do, and was always at a loss as to what to answer. It was only later that I came to realize that not all people understand a mechanism when they see it, or how to go about putting it in order. Admittedly, at 12 years old my approach was creative when it came to repair materials, but at least the methods worked. It was a great discovery some years later when I learned that there were real live companies devoted to selling parts for repairing phonographs. I don't know when my interest in this subject began, but it was certainly in place by the time I was eight or nine. Andy Baron On Dec 27, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Robert Plavzic wrote: Hi Ditto on what Mario has said. One strange thing that I have noticed is that some of us started at an early age. I started collecting at 11 - though I did have an earlier interest in old recordsthey made good targets for my friends I for shooting our air-rifles/ bb guns at (sorry!). Can kick myself for that now. I'd be interested to know who also caught the disease early? all the best Rob
[Phono-L] Youngsters in the Hobby
boy now thats a memory i bought my first victrola at 11 in vermont in 1962 the victrola was 5 dollars and the edison machine was 10 so as a kid then money was hard to come by so i bought the victrola thats a nice thought too bad they arent that now lol rob From msprinzen Sun Feb 22 11:20:10 2004 From: msprinzen (msprin...@juno.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:33 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] A phono photo from 19teens Message-ID: 20040222.122451.-885233.15.msprin...@juno.com I just purchased a photograph from eBay, circa 1917 or so. http://www.littlewonderrecords.com/East%20Texas%20girl.jpg The buyer thinks it was taken in east Texas. I bought it because of the Bubble Book that's on the floor. Thought I'd share it here because of the phonograph that's on the desk. The photograph wasn't very expensive, so I doubt it's a fake, but if anyone knows something that would hint otherwise I'd sure appreciate the information, or anything else anyone might know about it. Best, Merle
[Phono-L] Help in finding a BA cylinder
hi all i am looking for ba 1931 you made me love you and 5095 clap hands contact me off the list if you have either and are interested in selling thanks rob From Phonofred Thu Feb 26 20:37:52 2004 From: Phonofred (Fred Williams) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:34 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph References: 20040225.072048.4168.470...@webmail22.nyc.untd.com Message-ID: bay11-dav127zbaufkr0...@hotmail.com Oh no Ray, I sure hope you are wrong I've been looking for one of those little cranks for almost three years, I finally found one among the odds, and ends of another collector. When I started looking for it in March, 2001 Jerry Blais, and Doug miller both sent me photocopies of the cranks with their machines. I still have the pictures, and I am sure glad those guys helped me out. Ray, I have to agree with Merle. The Little Wonder came with a crank. A simple little crank with a crimp in the end that slides into the machine, It has a simple little straight black barrel on other end where you grip the crank. I really do still have the pictures if anyone needs them. Thanks to Jerry, and Doug. Fred - Original Message - From: msprin...@juno.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph Ray -- I've been researching this issue for a VERY long time now, and each time I've encountered a machine that was complete (and where there was a good reason to believe that all parts were original) the winding mechanism was a crank. Merle -- Ray Wilenzick rwilenz...@cox.net wrote: Concerning the Little Wonder phonograph that has the tone arm protruding from the horn, does anyone know if a winding key, as opposed to a crank, was ever used on this machine? The few I have seen, and book photos, always show a crank. However, I seem to recall someone saying that a key may have been supplied. Has anyone ever seen an original key, or know anything about this? Thanks. Ray ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.co ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From rwilenzick Thu Feb 26 21:37:30 2004 From: rwilenzick (Ray Wilenzick) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:34 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph References: 20040225.072048.4168.470...@webmail22.nyc.untd.com bay11-dav127zbaufkr0...@hotmail.com Message-ID: 001101c3fce3$08521a40$48340...@wilenzick Thanks, Merle and Fred for the info. However, if you look at the photo of the Little Wonder on p. 192 of Reiss' book, you will see the machine with a KEY, rather than a crank. Is it possible that the key on this L.W. from the Walter Bellm collection is a repro? If so, why wouldn't a repro crank been used? I am not sure this matter has been settled. Ray - Original Message - From: Fred Williams phonof...@msn.com To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph Oh no Ray, I sure hope you are wrong I've been looking for one of those little cranks for almost three years, I finally found one among the odds, and ends of another collector. When I started looking for it in March, 2001 Jerry Blais, and Doug miller both sent me photocopies of the cranks with their machines. I still have the pictures, and I am sure glad those guys helped me out. Ray, I have to agree with Merle. The Little Wonder came with a crank. A simple little crank with a crimp in the end that slides into the machine, It has a simple little straight black barrel on other end where you grip the crank. I really do still have the pictures if anyone needs them. Thanks to Jerry, and Doug. Fred - Original Message - From: msprin...@juno.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph Ray -- I've been researching this issue for a VERY long time now, and each time I've encountered a machine that was complete (and where there was a good reason to believe that all parts were original) the winding mechanism was a crank. Merle -- Ray Wilenzick rwilenz...@cox.net wrote: Concerning the Little Wonder phonograph that has the tone arm protruding from the horn, does anyone know if a winding key, as opposed to a crank, was ever used on this machine? The few I have seen, and book photos, always show a crank. However, I seem to recall someone saying that a key may have been supplied. Has anyone ever seen an original key, or know anything about this? Thanks. Ray ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Dave Hietz
dave collected some very nice machines i was lucky enough to buy one that was for sale at union and see most of them that he had decided to sell. all i can say was he had very good taste in machines. merry christmas and happy holidays to all zono
[Phono-L] 100 year old two headed serpent
hi all allen (amet) koenigsberg had on ebay awhile ago the reproducer for the multiplex its looked pretty interesting best to all and happy new year rob
[Phono-L] Contact info for Jerry Madson
hi all its jerrycl...@aol.com thats the easiest way to find him zono From pokeefe571 Wed Oct 15 07:10:55 2003 From: pokeefe571 (Phil O'Keefe) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:22 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Bryan and Taft Cylinders? Message-ID: 01c392e9.77d21dc0.pokeefe...@ameritech.net What kind of cylinders are they? -Phil O'Keefe Visit my Chicago Tunnel Company website at: http://www.ameritech.net/users/chicagotunnel/tunnel1.html -Original Message- From: Jeff Anders [SMTP:jgan...@mchsi.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:12 PM To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject:[Phono-L] Bryan and Taft Cylinders? Need your opinion... I have an opportunity to buy nine William Bryan speeches and one Taft speech. Assuming these are in good shape what do you think I should offer as far as their market value is worth (in general). Thanks for your help! -jeff :) File: ATT00147.txt
[Phono-L] Victor A Reproducer
if you are buying from jerry madsen you better buy quick as he is selling all his repro reproducers and not remaking them he was at the wayne show over the weekend it was a super show zono From vtm12 Mon Oct 20 15:18:41 2003 From: vtm12 (Vince Capobianco) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:23 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor A Reproducer References: 187.20c80bd5.2cc52...@aol.com Message-ID: 002701c39747$601077b0$17925...@cn487534a I was at the Wayne show as well. Best show this year!! Had a great time and there was some good deals there as well. I did get the reproducer I needed. Thanks, Vince - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor A Reproducer if you are buying from jerry madsen you better buy quick as he is selling all his repro reproducers and not remaking them he was at the wayne show over the weekend it was a super show zono ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] wayne nj show
hi all yes there were alot of nice machines there with the oliphants having some of the nicest but charley hummel always has alot of nice goodies to buy too and don gefl had some super horns he had made kudos to the show rob From vtm12 Mon Oct 20 15:34:50 2003 From: vtm12 (Vince Capobianco) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:23 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Decals References: 187.20c80bd5.2cc52...@aol.com Message-ID: 004901c39749$9cae6ef0$17925...@cn487534a Hello, I am looking for the Edison Signature (trademark) decals for the Bedplate. I want to get them in Varnish (solvent) transfer not water decals. APSCO does not have any at this time. Does anyone know where I can get them or has them and willing to sell? Please let me know. I need two for a Triumph A, but would like to get some extras as well. Vince
[Phono-L] Edison Decals
vince check with dwayne at the musical americana From vtm12 Mon Oct 20 17:22:13 2003 From: vtm12 (Vince Capobianco) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:23 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Decals References: b2.23c32503.2cc5a...@aol.com Message-ID: 002e01c39758$9d3861a0$17925...@cn487534a Anyone have a email address for Wyatts. I could not find one on their website and I would find it hard to believe that anyone with a website would not have an email address. Thanks, Vince - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Decals vince check with dwayne at the musical americana ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Reproduction Orthophonic Tonearm Brackets
hi loran have you tried to expoxy it it works great for a friend in restoring them rob From vtm12 Mon Oct 27 21:09:38 2003 From: vtm12 (Vince Capobianco) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:23 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Reproduction Orthophonic Tonearm Brackets References: 1067296146.2352.10.ca...@localhost Message-ID: 017e01c39d00$eeade340$17925...@cn487534a http://www.wwindups.com/ I think they have pretty nice back brackets for the orthophonic machines. Vince - Original Message - From: Loran T. Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Reproduction Orthophonic Tonearm Brackets Does anyone know of someplace that has good replacement Orthophonic tonearm brackets? I'd like one that looks halfway decent anyway... Loran ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Phono Heaven
the pooley vtla is in tim and george's books so open up the pocket books and buy them all they are great and i am not just saying that because tim is on the list they are good reference books to boot thank and kudos to tim and george rob From ruthlambert Sun Nov 9 01:00:30 2003 From: ruthlambert (Ruth Lambert - www.needletins.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:25 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] talking machine/needle tins exhibition Prague Message-ID: 001501c3a68f$2cea42b0$0308a...@homeykicn3oa59 For anybody visiting Prague until end January 2004. Just been to Prague to see excellent exhibition of many rare talking machines from collection of Wilfried Sator and Gabriel Goessel . Wilfried Sator is a German collector and Gabriel Goessel is a Czech. His entire needle tin collection (Many came from me) is also on display . Gabriel produces the needle tin calendars. Pictures following very soon. Don't miss this if in Prague , its right in the centre of Prague and easy to find - dispay is by a professional media group and is wonderful. Details from me. Ruth Lambert ruthlamb...@needletins.co.uk International Needle Tin Specialist www.needltins.co.uk. From ChippendaleC19 Sun Nov 9 07:33:37 2003 From: ChippendaleC19 (chippendale...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:25 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono Heaven Message-ID: 11d.27c38194.2cdf9...@aol.com In a message dated 11/8/2003 10:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, gpaul2...@aol.com writes: Jerry's find is the very FIRST Victrola style, whose cabinet was manufactured by Pooley in Philadelphia I am an Edison guy, but is neat to read about all of the other phono related items on here. Congratulations, again, Jerry. I guess this would be like me finding one of the large, prewar Diamond Disk machines, with inlay. Randy From Bhhodges Sun Nov 9 22:15:06 2003 From: Bhhodges (bhhod...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:25 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] vtla's Message-ID: 147.1c2bf5f0.2ce06...@aol.com i was traveling thru the mountians this summer and passed by a flea market type store in the middle of no-where --passed by and said what the heck ---lets go back. good thing i did cause i found a second style vtla setting in the back corner,so yes there are good finds still avaliable,and if i would of said oh well and just kept going i would of never known it was there. it was intresting trying to get in in the back seat of a grand am but it fit. bill From dridgewa Mon Nov 10 12:04:24 2003 From: dridgewa (David Ridgeway) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:25 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Windham Phonograph ? Message-ID: 20031110180425.cofs1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth@mail.bellsouth.net Has anyone heard of Windham Phonographs ? The seller says patent date is 1910 and the manufacturer is in Pennsylvania. I haven't seen the unit yet. It is appox. 48 tall and 22 square. Thanks for any help or guidance. Regards, David Ridgeway
[Phono-L] berliner
[Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219
hi all the smythes are great people to deal with and very honest happy collecting
[Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second?
hi all bob baumbach has a new book out ( two years ago that is ) that has all the measurements and different models with in the models check it out zono
[Phono-L] Toy phonograph research
hi all i have had the book for a few weeks and its wondeful great job joan and robin rob
[Phono-L] Re: Edison Phono on Antique Road Show this week
hi all take the road show for what it is just plain entertainment zono
[Phono-L] Union Show and Sale
hi all I enjoyed the show. Many nice machines were there and some early record boxes. i saw two glass sided zonophones and i bought one of the two grand opera zonophones that were available there. The only sad note was bill landon lost a screw down on a berliner and the next day the same guy came back it seems for the reproducer. Its pretty sick when you have to do that to a dealer. The first day on Thursday was a little hectic as there was some disagreement on people coming into the parking lot to sell or buy who didn't have a table, so to be fair mike and randy let anyone who was there pay the dealer price to sell or buy. This was only $150 for two people which is more than fair to all. I for one hate to see the dealers pay for space and others come in to sell who pay nothing. The oliphants again had many nice items to buy also as well as charlie hummel. i was not there on Sunday but was Thursday afternoon thru Saturday night. also jasper was very cordial to us all as usual. george or renee or tim please put your opinions in too mr zono
[Phono-L] Friday Auction (was: Union Show and Sale)
hi all the prices at the auction were a steal on some items i bought a columbia n there and it was a fair price an edison idelia went for the going price but a columbia bc went for under 1000 with a horn now that was a steal. a columbia bo with a wood horn also went for under 2000, all and all the auction prices were more than fair. there was an auction there several years ago but i found this was the better one of the two all in all union is great. mr zono
[Phono-L] Union 2005
HI ALL i am happy with what i bought. i found a zonophone grand opera for a lot less than what the last one took on ebay, a great model columbia n, and many other choice items you dont see on ebay. In addition no snipers LOL happy collecting to all mrzono
[Phono-L] Another eBay phono fraud
hi ray and all i just forward those to _sp...@ebay.com_ (mailto:sp...@ebay.com) i get them about once a month best to all rob
[Phono-L] E-bay listing for the AUXETOPHONE
hi eric yes it is but it is not operational rob from sarasota here
[Phono-L] Columbia AH question
hi all allen also you may want to comment the early ah had the speed control on the top like the early aj also best to all zono
[Phono-L] Re: Phonograph Chop Shop - The Edison Wrecking Yard -
hi al i thought i was the only one who remember neuman miller even have one of his old catalogs around here as for frick i cant add any more best to all rob
[Phono-L] Re: Phonograph Chop Shop - The Edison Wrecking Yard -
hi aaron and group the only bad experience i had with bob was at the end when his drinking and health got the better of him he left owing me a lid for a standard but all the rest of my dealings over many years was good and alot of times he just sent the item and i sent payment later happy collecting to all zono
[Phono-L] what to do??
hi all about two years ago i sold a cygnet horn to a rudy breem who won it on ebay he is a real person from the fact he paid for it and received it if anyone knows of jalals email address he might be able to help you rene do you remember what it is best to all rob
[Phono-L] paypal and ebay, was Re: eBay Scam Listing
hi i agree i find paypal a nice service plus if you have problems with an item you have recourse too unlike a check or money order and i have seen some very rare items come up on ebay that we just dont see at shows and if you are astute you can still get good buys happy collecting all zono
[Phono-L] Alva on eBay
hi all the alva was real a friend of mine bought it zono
[Phono-L] Alva on eBay
hi all sorry i thought you were all talking about the alva that went off a few weeks ago i have to agree with the majority on this one zono_eBay: EDISON ALVA ELECTRIC PHONOGRAPH (item 6585961775 end time Dec-11-05 17:03:42 PST)_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6585961775ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResultht =1shortcut=0from=R41query=6585961775category0=Submit=Searchfvi=1)
[Phono-L] Sad News
hi loran my condolences rob
[Phono-L] Columbia AJ Values
hi vince which aj for the top wind there are two one has the speed adjustment on the side and the early one has in on top best to you rob From vtm12 Fri May 7 08:08:45 2004 From: vtm12 (Vince Capobianco) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:40 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia AJ Values References: 12e.40ec4ef9.2dccb...@aol.com Message-ID: 007d01c43434$6cbac620$17925...@cn487534a This one has an odd speed control on the side. Like a lever with a slot in the case. You push it up or down. - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia AJ Values hi vince which aj for the top wind there are two one has the speed adjustment on the side and the early one has in on top best to you rob ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Mint condition
boy he really knows how to spell and describe this machine i got tired just reading all the run on sentences and spelling errors but after all its a one of a kind and he is excited another 500 dollar standard to me how about you george or tim or anyone else best to all happy bidding rob From sinatrafangold Sat May 8 15:41:04 2004 From: sinatrafangold (Phillip Sands) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:40 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Mint condition In-Reply-To: bay4-dav10fhv7r4nzr3...@hotmail.com Message-ID: 20040508204103.66243.qm...@web21325.mail.yahoo.com Mint? Is he kidding? Look at the paint on the top plate, he didn't even clean it up. And isn't that missing paint and rust on the gate? His idea of mint is certainly unique. --- Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/28gyz http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2243458554 YOU ARE BIDDING ON A 1 OF A KIND I GUARENTEE THAT THIS IS SUCH A MINT PIECE I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE LIKE THIS ANYWHERE. First part of ad set in context. Looks like the carriage is broken to me. Steve ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover
[Phono-L] Victrola XIII/What Drives Us
hi george and all i agree with what you say i enjoy being single because its make it easier to collect too wives seem to enjoy it at first until we get a large collection then as we get more primo machines they shake their head at their cost, but as we all know, we love the machines first but they do make a fairly good investment. i for one enjoy my concert / opera. it is my work horse when i play all my cylinders. it has the best sound as far as i am concerned, but like you i have a few jewels. most of the rest are nice machines but the hunt is the most fun not the ownership. happy collecting to all rob From john9ten Fri Mar 5 06:18:58 2004 From: john9ten (john robles) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia-Europa Real Photo In-Reply-To: 404802a2.7070...@oldcrank.com Message-ID: 20040305121854.57755.qm...@web80604.mail.yahoo.com Neat phonos, Loran! Loran T. Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com wrote:Folks, Just won this vintage real photo of a Columbia-Europa in use: http://www.oldcrank.com/images/8866.jpg My Europa phonographs are featured on the intertique web site at http://www.intertique.com/1914Page2.htm . I'm always looking for catalogs and/or advertising featuring these machines - and of course, different examples of these phonos. If you have any info or something you want to part with, drop me a line! Regards, Loran ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From Gpaul2000 Fri Mar 5 16:13:32 2004 From: Gpaul2000 (gpaul2...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola XIII/What Drives Us Message-ID: 1cc.1b370fe1.2d7a5...@aol.com Rob: I hear what you're saying about being single, but I want to make it clear that I much prefer Barb to phonographs! She has only one tiny flaw: not being fascinated by phonographs related items. She does, however, tolerate them well. I count my blessings... George Paul From loran Fri Mar 5 16:49:53 2004 From: loran (Loran T. Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola XIII/What Drives Us In-Reply-To: 1cc.1b370fe1.2d7a5...@aol.com References: 1cc.1b370fe1.2d7a5...@aol.com Message-ID: 1078526989.2277.16.ca...@madmax.local On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 14:13, gpaul2...@aol.com wrote: Rob: I hear what you're saying about being single, but I want to make it clear that I much prefer Barb to phonographs! She has only one tiny flaw: not being fascinated by phonographs related items. She does, however, tolerate them well. I count my blessings... George Paul Well, my wife loves 'em. She even hunts down phonos for me on occassion. She allowed them to take over the family room! One Lucky Dude, Loran
[Phono-L] Victrola XIII/What Drives Us
george and loran you are both lucky men i find most women like them at first but then they feel they want the attention and the use of the money on them more so like all things in life we have choices thank god for that best to all rob From Srsells1 Sat Mar 6 09:58:41 2004 From: Srsells1 (srsel...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Clarification on Prague Books Message-ID: 81.6faf128.2d7b4...@aol.com Sorry for this additional post but, based on a few emails I got I wanted to clarify two things: 1. PLEASE use stevenr...@aol.com as the address to request the books. Do not use this address. 2. Though I directed the offer to US Collectors, I'm not limiting it to US collectors. Canadadians who want the book or coasters or bookmarks or postcards can probably save some having me ship them as well. The shipping cost will just be more than that to US buyers. And, of course I'll ship anywhere anyone wants. Note that I'll be at ARSC Conference beginning Tuesday through Sunday and will answer any mail during that time, upon my return. Thanks! Steve Ramm From edboyles Sat Mar 6 15:52:18 2004 From: edboyles (Eric Boyles) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia BD Case or Parts Needed Message-ID: 404a480f.3060...@alltel.net If anyone has molding pieces to the rounded Columbia BD or AR case or even a complete cabinet please let me know. Hopefully someone has something in their junk pile or todo pile they can part with. Thanks for the consideration, Eric Boyles Crossett, AR (ibuyphonos).
[Phono-L] victor 5
hi all i have seen the wood horns alone go for that at shows congrats From kbab Mon Mar 8 19:52:54 2004 From: kbab (Ken Brekke) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:36 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor V find` Message-ID: 000a01c40579$4230e9a0$11cab...@oemcomputer Congrats on the Victor V find Stories like this make us all dig that much harder. I believe the better find was the significant other that equally shares in the excitement. I agree with one of the other emails---Marry that woman Ken B From steve_noreen Mon Mar 8 21:12:10 2004 From: steve_noreen (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:36 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinder Mold Question... References: bay8-dav7mpuucnfat60001c...@hotmail.com Message-ID: bay4-dav51pyp8nxeyte...@hotmail.com I use a shoe brush to clean dirty cylinders, I purchased it for that purpose. I brush the same way the grooves go and it works very well. I would never use anything that may hurt a record, who knows what the future damage may be as a result of chemicals or petroleum distillates on wax records? Steve It's not a mold, but rather a fungus. It pits the surface of the cylinder so the recording is destroyed even if the mold could be removed. Black wax is actually a metallic soap compound, not just wax (although it contains a couple of wax compounds). I've never exposed a cylinder to gasoline or the like, but I imagine it would be incredibly destructive to the cylinder, particularly the delicate grooves. When I have picked up cylinders with 'moldy' spots, I have applied Mycotin brand anti-fungal in sparing amounts with a cotton swab to the affected areas. I have never seen the spots go away, but my hope is to kill the fungus and stop the spread. Cylinder boxes containing moldy cylinders are also contaminated and should not be re-used for good cylinders for obvious reasons. John M
[Phono-L] My Victor 5
hi all a good man to restore the horn is don gefl who makes the horns he refinished a columbia horn for me and did an excellent job rob From Keith.Carter Tue Mar 9 11:57:43 2004 From: Keith.Carter (Carter, Keith) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:36 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] My Victor 5 Message-ID: 97c7ef59a387d6118a8a000802564c4603169...@hqgtnexch1.hr.doe.gov Thanks, Isn't he with Sights and sounds of Edison? -Original Message- From: zonophone2...@aol.com [mailto:zonophone2...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:55 PM To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] My Victor 5 hi all a good man to restore the horn is don gefl who makes the horns he refinished a columbia horn for me and did an excellent job rob ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From JVoigt Tue Mar 9 12:16:46 2004 From: JVoigt (Joe Voigt) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:36 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Starr phonograph Message-ID: 600dd9a2feadd411ace900508b8bdc0a01587...@ppfwww01.ppfi.com My wife's aunt has an old Starr phonograph that was manufactured in Richmond, Indiana. It has a beautiful wood horn mounted inside the cabinet with the logo inside that reads: Silver Grain Spruce - The Singing Throat of the Starr phonograph. To the left of the horn are 5 drawers labeled A - E that I guess were for record storage. There is a metal plate that is mounted in front of the horn with the number 81952 which might be the serial number. I have pictures I can send if anyone will e-mail me. She wanted to know if anyone had an idea of its value etc. Joe Voigt jvo...@ppfi.com From steve_noreen Tue Mar 9 18:41:52 2004 From: steve_noreen (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:36 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] could use some help References: 97c7ef59a387d6118a8a000802564c4603169...@hqgtnexch1.hr.doe.gov Message-ID: bay4-dav93whaofi4y400010...@hotmail.com Keith, I believe this is a Columbia horn as the Edison just has the ring. 48 inches is the longest horn I have heard of, but $900 is too much. Steve I'm not much on trying to explain what it looked like, but it was something like a heavy wire in brass with 3 half loops where you can attach the crane in any of the hoops. That's about as close as I can describe it. keith I went to a large Antique Mall that had many dealers yesterday and found an Edison Concert All Brass Horn. I want to know what is the price these usually go for. The Dealer was asking $900.00 for it. The horn is about 5 foot to 5 ? foot long with a Bell of about 2 ? foot wide ( well, pretty wide anyway). I really didn't measure it for exact measurements. The horn is in perfect condition. What do these usually go for? Thanks, Keith ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Union Disappointment
hi all no disapointment here either there were less parts but better machines to choose from. record wise lots of great deals there too. i got a great deal on a victor jr and picked up a edison suitcase home with a 2000 serial number for only 400. the quality was up with all the machines one dealer brought to sell from a major collector. and the best part of union is the comradery of old friends and jaspers collections kudos to randy and mike for putting on another great show rob From scott Wed Jun 16 16:55:06 2004 From: scott (Scott Colgrove) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:43 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Union Disappointment Message-ID: 008001c453eb$1448ecc0$b4eb1...@scott I must agree with the other favorable comments regarding the Union show. For me it was an unbelievable opportunity to see and even purchase several desirable and rare phonographs. Prices were definitely not cheap but in line with going rates. I find this show the highlight of my collecting experience. I cannot wait for next years show! PS. I am sure there are people who actually LIKE 90F and 85% humidity (and the associated mosquitoes). For them I am sure the weather was absolutely perfect. From dgm Wed Jun 16 19:38:34 2004 From: dgm (Daniel Melvin) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:43 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Union Disappointment References: 196.2afaf95f.2e020...@aol.com Message-ID: 001e01c45403$6ad5d450$6401a...@danslaptop I also have to say this was the best Union show I have attended. This was my 5th year in a row and I found that the energy at the show was the best I had ever seen and machine quality and quantity were up considerably. While I paid a premium price for the Columbia BFT with a wood horn, it's amoung the nicest machines I own. The quality of the machines was very high and provided the chance to get nice quality machines. I'm not personally into fixer uper machines because I don't have the time to work on them. I look for nice machines ready for my collection. I saw phonographs there I would be suprised to ever see for sale in one place ever again. I will go back year after year and already wish it were time for next year! Dan
[Phono-L] Triumph D2 ID plate
hi dave yes it does have the designation on the id i have a d-2 and it is a straight horn and not a cygnet also rob From steve_noreen Sat Jul 24 13:46:19 2004 From: steve_noreen (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:47 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Toot Your Own Horn / was Ebay plug on Edison Machine References: 15c.39e96dc3.2e316...@aol.com Message-ID: bay4-dav34gqqwdl15800052...@hotmail.com Hi Al, I agree. Did you rebuild the S on your F? Steve By all means get the word out that such a nice condition rare machine is up for eBay auction. I have purchased a number of items that were mentioned on Phono-L when I have missed them on the eBay search. Posting on Phono-L has the added advantage of getting to some very serious collectors first and they can run to check their bank balances though some of us have plenty of money and nothing left to collect.;-) The Model F Standard on page 129 of The Edison Cylinder Companion and page 61 of the Frow Sefl book is my machine. The larger diaphragm of a properly rebuilt S Reproducer has a great sound with the Cygnet horn. If you are going to have just one Edison Standard in your collection, this one is it! Best wishes to all on the list, may all your finds be rare ones, Al Flatulus Antiquitus ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] HI
HI LORAN I AM CHANGING EMAIL ADDRESS AND NEED TO REJOIN THE PHONOLIST UNDER _zonophone2...@aol.com_ (mailto:zonophone2...@aol.com) IF ANYONE CAN HELP LET ME KNOW
[Phono-L] Near Miss
waves was at the new jersey show nice show with three class m showing up along with two polyphones and a few bettinis best to all zono
[Phono-L] Steel needles, Reproducer gaskets
hi all you will find differences in decals too i find the ones from wyatts are more true to the original on eidsons and i know someone is making very nice ones of columbia styles i my self am looking for a good one for an idelia horn best to all zono
[Phono-L] Shipping charges -- a new pricing scheme
hi all if you look at tinfreaks auctions on ebay he charges the up charge but if you want the item its just a cost of doing business and include that cost in your bid zono
