Re: [HTML] Gotta second to look at something?
On Dec 19, 2006, at 10:08 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote: LOL! Tried here with FF 1.5.0.8 and didn't see images. Thank you. H. Some further research indicates others having trouble like this when images are inside div tags. Strange that it isn't effecting all of the *other* images I have inside div tags. Stay tuned... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Using Foxpro to write a program that knows how to write Foxpro programs?
On Dec 21, 2006, at 5:23 AM, Man-wai CHANG wrote: Anyone attempted this kind of A.I. project? :) I have done this for simple things several times. Sometimes I have textmerged a core program (kept in a memo field) with values from other tables. One key is that you have to programmatically compile it before you run it. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Why is there still mac stuff in VFP?
On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it might give my PC magical Mac powers but nope. Actually, your second post sounded a *lot* smarter than your first, so just maybe... Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: I would love a screen shot of the 'never!' message. s I always thought a great error message would be: RIIIGHT! (What's a 'Cubit'?) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:38 PM, John Weller wrote: (What's a 'Cubit'?) The distance from the end of the fingers to the elbow - generally taken to be 18. Thanks -- I never knew that -- but, I was just quoting an apparently- too-obscure reference. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Ted Roche wrote: And these people don't know where it's from? Barbarians! Well, I can't tell you. Ha, ha, ha. I was just about to say I bet Whil does then I read the next message. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Au contraire. And _I_ can tread water for a loong time. s Riiight!? Who is this really? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Web site statistics package
Hey - -- - - Just curious whether you have any recommendations about freeware web server statistics packages for my W2K server. I currently use the combination of Analog and ReportMagic, but I find it counterintuitive. I have to relearn it each time, as there is some process I need to do before I run it. As a result, I don't check very often. Any ideas? Thanks, Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Web site statistics package
On Jan 14, 2007, at 11:26 AM, john harvey wrote: I use nTop. Thanks, John -- I'll check it out. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?
On Jan 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: turns out the data entry idiots at MSFT spelled my name wrong - despite the fact that my email address, with my name in it, was the next item to enter. Did they see Whil and oh-so-helpfully correct it for you? I suppose that there are at least a few folks who would assume _you_ made a data entry error, just because they hadn't seen it before. How many variations of Whil do you get? I admit that I did a triple take on it the first time I saw it. (Then again, etching in stone isn't usually as prone to errors as plain ol' typing!) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
On Jan 16, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Kevin Ragsdale wrote: I think you can get the pieces from Tiger Direct for $9.99 */**/*** I bought/built my last machine through them. My wife is the rebate queen: never lets one go unclaimed. She gave up on this one, though I followed through. The rebate stuff was so bad I reported them to the MN Attorney General. Designed specifically to make it just-short-of- impossible. I will ***NEVER*** buy anything from those a$$holes again. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide
On Jan 18, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: I knew Drew and Brent pretty well, but not anywhere near close enough to comment on this ruling. I am going with this scenario: Brent was sitting on the rail and slipped and fell. Drew couldn't handle it and followed. It seems to fit the disclosed facts, and it is the only way I can resolve the tragedy with what I knew of Drew. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Storing code in a table
Justin: - - -- - Sure, just strToFile() into some temp file name, COMPILE it, and run it. I do it all the time. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Storing code in a table
It is funny, I am sitting here trying to figure out whether and how to do the same thing in PHP. I have always liked the idea of maintaining validation language and other utility code in tables. Developing my own framework in PHP is bringing out my Wish I would have done it's of my VFP framework. Ken On Jan 18, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: You may be able to use ExecScript. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows Media Player 10 -- hog?
I use a little utility called AllPlayer. it does just that: plays (nearly) everything: most music formats and video formats, including Real, QT, and all of the usual Windows suspects. www.marbit.com.pl A bit flukey, in that some of the menu items are in Polish, but worth it. On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:51 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote: WMP 10 seems to be much more of a resource hog than the previous versions. I've used Yahoo Music Jukebox and am thinking about just using it instead of WMP 10. What do the rest of you folks use (that isn't a hog like WMP 10 seems to be)? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] eMail flood on my server
Hey -= == == I'm just curious what's going on I flipped my KVM switch over to my server (for no particular reason), and noticed my eMail server going wild. Somebody is sending mail after mail to my server, to made-up users in my domain. the user names aren't random, they all start with shethang, for example: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and on and on. All of the from IP's and domains are being spoofed, so I can't blacklist any of it. My server doesn't have a catchall email account, so all of these are being bounced. I could understand it if the user names were more random, that they may be trying to figure out 'real ones (that don't bounce), but this seems to be a very inefficient way to harvest user names. The volume doesn't seem high enough to bring down my server. I don't have an open relay, so I am not being used as a surrogate. I just don't understand what somebody has to gain by flooding my server? Ideas Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: If you look up the 'from' chain, you'll eventually see the starting point of the email (the 'envelope', so to speak.) Are they all the same (probably likely) or different? Al I see on the server is the apparent from and IP. The messages are getting bounced, so can one look up the chain? How? (Or does it vary from mail server to mail server?) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 21, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: A better question would be: what do they have to lose? Most likely this is coming from a zombie that has been infected, so it doesn't even cost them any CPU cycles or bandwidth. It just seems like there are much easier ways to harvest eMail addresses... hardly worth the programming time to do it this way. But I suppose they are just having fun. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 21, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: No, it's not for fun. This is serious stuff. Yeah, I suppose. I wonder when it is going to get bad enough that the powers decide that it is time to fundamentally redesign how eMail works. All of this stuff inhales vigorously. Looking back at my eMail server logs, I see that this particular bug has been hard at work since the 17th. expletive deleted Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 21, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: I might be misunderstanding what you're seeing... but I was referring to looking at the headers of an email message. In thunderbird... OK, Whil, thanks. I'll try to be clearer. Thunderbird is the client. Mine is Mac:Mail. Since all of these spambot messages are to an invalid user name, they are being bounced by my email server software, so they are never making it to any client. I don't know how to see anything more about bounced messages than what shows up in the eMail log. I have half-heartedly been looking up how to create a catch-all email account on my server software, so I can capture some of these mails and look up the chain. I had one at one point, but since it was full o' nothing but spam, I deleted that account. And, really, these things aren't doing much harm. It's just bloating my email logs, and chewing up some server cycles. Nevertheless, I'd like to figure out how to stop it. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 21, 2007, at 7:29 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: All you can get from a bounced message is the IP address of the server that is trying to send it to you. That could be the originator, or it could be an intermediate that is relaying the mail. Thank you. The IP addresses are all different, so I guess I'll try to let a few through and see if I can find the IP of the machine that is really sending all of it. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 22, 2007, at 2:32 AM, Michael Hawksworth wrote: It is possible that your system is being used as relay... Thanks, but no --- I check it at ORDB every once in a while (because I made that mistake once). Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 22, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: http://redtape.msnbc.com/2007/01/spam_is_back_an.html Good article -- amazing, though, how many of the comments at the bottom completely missed the point. Death to Spammers is useless when *you* are the spammer, infected with a bot. Incidentally, I thought it wouldn't hurt to check my server for being an open relay again, even though I am positive it isn't. I was surprised to find ORDB.org had passed from the mortal coil. http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/18/154259from=rss or: http://tinyurl.com/yl7hpt Any still-free alternatives anybody knows (and trusts)? Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 22, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: You can try this: http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: Any still-free alternatives anybody knows (and trusts)? thanks -- it says I am OK. You know, I am beginning to think that this is the same problem Michael had a while ago. (I am searching the archives right now, but searching posts from Babcock is exhausting all of Ed's processing power!) I think the situation was some spammer spoofed *his* domain as the one originating the posts, so he got all of the bounces. (Still waiting for the archives... Time to cut back on those posts, Michael!) I checked my statistics from the eMail server, and I have rejected over 134,000 messages because of a unknown user account. Holy Smoke! (Still waiting... Ed, is that thing smoking?) Might as well just ask! Michael: Did you find a solution? Did the situation ever resolve itself? How long did it take? Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] eMail flood on my server
On Jan 22, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: I think the situation was some spammer spoofed *his* domain as the one originating the posts, OK, I finally found it, but it was Alan Lukachko, not Michael. (Fortunately MB responded a few times in the thread, so I found it.) http://leafe.com/archives/showFullThd/324871#0 It looks like there just isn't any solution. I just hope the flood slows to a trickle. expletive deleted Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Marketing for Visual Foxpro on YouTube
On Jan 24, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: Except for that Phil Collins crap they played Boo Hoo -- My Daddy didn't wuv me! 'You're no son of mine!' Pathetic. (Running away so no more [OT] temptations.) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP Config file
Hey - - My Goodness, an actual, old-fashioned VFP question! It has been so long, I can't remember: In a config.fpw file, when one has a directory name with a space in it, does the PATH line need to read: G:\DIR NAME;G:\DIR NAME\DATA (the whole string in one set of quotes) or G:\DIR NAME;G:\DIR NAME\DATA (each path directory in it's own set of quotes) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recipe Book into PDF to download
On Jan 25, 2007, at 4:20 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: I believe there is a way that you can turn off the ability to print within a PDF, although I'm not sure that we would want to do that. File + Document Properties Security tab turn on password security Change Settings button. Our main concern is, how can we prevent them from copying the PDF and sending it to all of their buddies ?? You want to prevent someone from copying a file? Rght! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Ethics again
On Jan 27, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Jeff Fisher wrote: Damn these ethics - it is costing me money again. Costing your integrity is a higher price. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Wierd Label behaviour
On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: some who were intentionally being jerks. My bad. I'm sorry, Ed. My bad has been a banished phrase since 1998. http://www.lssu.edu/banished/archive/1998.php or (http://tinyurl.com/2th2cz) Even done sarcastically, it is really your bad. g Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Job
On Jan 30, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Paul Hill wrote: Warmth... Domestic help for pennies/day... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: What do I use in place of MSDE?
On Feb 2, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: EVERY FORM showed a huge list of 'public myvar...' statements... You mean that's wrong?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? The programmer didn't know about form properties Form What's? I thunkt that Properties thingie wuz only fer real- estate typhoons. Land Sakes! bg Ken (who never met a tool that didn't injure him somehow) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Checks reordering
On Feb 2, 2007, at 4:26 PM, mrgmhale wrote: Had the manual demand draft angle not worked out OK, I don't know what a demand draft is. Googling it says that it is a check, or a similar instrument with a fee paid by the person *requesting* the draft, i.e., you. What was the cost to the City? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Checks reordering
On Feb 2, 2007, at 5:01 PM, mrgmhale wrote: The cost of negotiating the instrument by the recipient/payee is between them and the bank at which they deposited the document. OIC --- thanks --- (remind me to stay on your good side g) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: What do I use in place of MSDE?
On Feb 2, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: 1. Find qualified people that they can work with. 2. Train these people in the techniques that they use to build the type of applications that they want Unfortunately, that is not the way the world works these days. Even so 25+ years ago when I started a new department in a Fortune 500 company. We needed (nontechnical) people like that. Smart, trainable folks. Since the jobs we were creating were new, there weren't historical precedents for the type of skills we needed. I figured we'll advertise it, interview 10-15 people and hire the best ones. WRONG! What if those 2 or 3 we hired all happened to be white or males, or (gasp) *both.* We would have been exposed (rightly or wrongly) to EEO lawsuits. So I had to make up a bunch of hokey requirements, the only purpose of which was to give me excuses *not* to hire the ones I didn't want. The ultimate CYA for personnel departments. So, yes, personnel people are clueless on technical hires (yada yada yada) but there are reasons for all of those job requirements. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
On Feb 3, 2007, at 9:01 AM, Ted Roche wrote: http://www.degredo.net/ Fabulous! (I gotta get there, too.) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[WEB] Storing code in tables
Hey - -- - Since I see y'all chatting... I am working on my framework for designing Web applications using PHP, and in this case, MySQL. One of the goals I have had for a long time in my development (in any language) is to keep things flexible by putting lots of stuff in tables. This includes metadata tables which specify ordinary validation rules: mandatory?, typical formats, encrypted?, stuff like that. The typical ones result in a function call to a utility object embedded in a data object: IsValidFormat (string,Telephone), for example. For exceptional validation, this includes a field for a bit-o'-code for custom validation or table- level validation. Also, for the same flexibility reason, my framework design keeps page- related information, including display code in a table, too. This is never core code like login validation or data object definitions, only again, function calls to data and UI objects. All of the class definition code is kept in files, not tables, off of the Web tree. When I posted a question related to this strategy in a PHP group, I got an individual who said that this strategy is very dangerous, and (in so many words) I'm an idiot for even contemplating it. Mind you, he only knew the code in tables part, without the level of detail above. I subsequently supplied it, but so far without response. Whadaya think? Is this an ill-conceived strategy? Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
On Feb 3, 2007, at 6:31 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Let me know if I can help Thank you so much. I have been promising myself to do it for a good long while. I am downloading Ubuntu as we speak and following this conversation. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
On Feb 4, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: If there was just one religion that we all had to practice... Well, according to some in here ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [WEB] Storing code in tables
On Feb 4, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: I don't think it is dangerous; I just think it is a VFP mindset. Outside of the VFP world, you're going to get a lot of reactions like this. Code is more flexible in text files, not in tables. Thanks, Ed. I don't mind having a VFP mindset, but these comments challenge me to consider whether that is a good or bad thing in this instance. Is it really a VFP mindset, or just a data guy mindset? Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [WEB] Storing code in tables
On Feb 4, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: ...never seen the approach you describe, where an application's logic is considered data... Maybe that is a programmer guy mindset. bg The validation part of it I see as a natural extension of metadata, the other part I need to reach to find an 'engineering justification. Still reaching... Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [WEB] Storing code in tables
On Feb 4, 2007, at 1:27 PM, john harvey wrote: People act like they work for the NSA or CIA... g I'd tell you more, but... rest of cliché Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
...Burning the Ubuntu CD The machine I'm going to install it on is my prior development machine. (Straining to remember RAM, Processor, etc.) I know that the hard disk that is in there has some old crap on it. Can I run a utility from the Ubuntu CD to reformat it, or should I do it some other way first? (Does Knoppix have a utility for that?) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
On Feb 4, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: IIRC, you get the option of installing to the free space on the disk (if any), or reformatting. You did RC. It is reformatting at this moment. Ah, it is done... Installing... (Amazing what stuff you can get done at home on a -7℉ day.) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
OK, I got Ubuntu installed, got on my network and the internet, performed 119 updates g, installed Thunderbird, and subscribed to ProLinux. Easy as pie, so far. On to more. Before I move over to ProLinux with this stuff, any interesting, useful, or cool stuff I should try or install? Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
On Feb 5, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: I really like the Quanta+ editor get that installed via Synaptic. I'll check it out (just as soon as I figure out what Synaptic is.) Thanks Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: (stage whisper) Hey, guys, we hooked another one! Yeah -- I'm already trying to figure out when I can take the time to move it from over there (where I stuck my old computer) when I built the new one, to over here where I can pl, er, work with it more. Involves crawling behind my desk to get my old W98 machine and move *it* over there first. I hope the L box won't have any problem with my KVM switch... KEn ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Ted Roche wrote: Try looking at the question from the other side: what is it you want to do with your computer? The Answers Are Out There. Just work, which is 90% PHP/MySQL and HTML right now. The only play stuff involves family photos movies. I suppose newsgroups, too. There must be other stuff I do... Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Web code safety, was Storing code in tables
On Feb 6, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Fletcher Johnson wrote: Certainly, if the code is in a table, it is subject to modification (potentially malicious), Thank you for your thoughts, Fletcher. Regardless of my application construction, this is something that I am wondering about. Maybe somebody can help me understand. It may seem hopelessly naive, but from my reading, it seems like: 1. If your data are off of the web tree, and 2. You have robust protection against SQL injection Your data should be protected. Am I wrong? How else would anyone get to your data? Similarly, if you don't have any SQL in code that is in your Web tree that should be *relatively* safe. All data in user-interface is called data object functions, and those are off of the web tree, too. Again, am I wrong, or is this understanding too simplistic? Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Web code safety, was Storing code in tables
On Feb 7, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: You might also have a field with some kind of coded checksum, so your program would notice if the code has been tampered with. Thanks -- good idea. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] My laptop battery says there is 63% power left but 12 minutes left.
FWIW, My laptop has a bios utility to re-calibrate the battery... Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] My laptop battery says there is 63% power left but 12 minutes left.
On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:08 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Mars minutes. Or Microsoft Minutes (tm). We hardly got enny wimmin in here enny more, so I s'pose I gotta say it: ... or a man's inch. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] My laptop battery says there is 63% power left but 12 minutes left.
On Feb 13, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Peter Cushing wrote: ... or a man's inch. Mine's in centimetres ;-) Lucky [EMAIL PROTECTED] g ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Refox file names
Thanks Peter John. I supposed that was the name. sigh I'll just have to keep looking for my copy. Peter, I may have to take advantage of your offer. If so, I'll be in touch. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Refox file names
Thanks again, Peter and others -- we were able to diagnose the versioning issues without decompiling. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Recent versions of Abri worth it?
On Feb 19, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Sales Info wrote: ... flush often. In VFP this translates as: FLUSH FORCE Then: inkey(2,H) Slow the f'ing application down so much that they might reconsider where to shove the power strip. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Specs for developer workstation in 2007
On Feb 19, 2007, at 4:42 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote: including vendor suggestions (NewEgg, TigerDirect, etc). I'm not much of a hardware guy, but I built one. I want to see what other, more machine-savvy folks say about specs, but I'll say this: stay the he|| away from f'ing TigerDirect. I don't want to sound like Chet, but their rebate schemes *are* consumer fraud. Well, I have ranted about this before (http://leafe.com/archives/ showMsg/337305), so I'll shut up. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Specs for developer workstation in 2007
On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote: I don't have any experience with TigerDirect's rebates but my experience with IT rebates in general has been very disappointing regardless of vendor. These are the worst I have ever encountered, by very, very far. They made it virtually impossible to redeem them. OTOH and FWIW, the product works fine. The power supply crapped out almost immediately, and they were very good and prompt in sending me a new one. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Specs for developer workstation in 2007
On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:17 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: big dogs know what parts work well together due to all of their RD work in best configuration, and little ol' me doesn't know these things and might use parts that are incompatible. Now that sounds like FUD, but I don't know?!??!??? That was one of the good parts about TigerDirect: they had recommendations for parts that worked together well. It really wasn't that hard, though there were definitely some frustrating moments. I used my W2K license, so I wasn't dealing with an unknown or poorly- known OS, too. All in all, I would do it again, but *not* with TigerDirect. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Limewire
On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: I use the free Linux version of Limewire running under FC6, and previously under FC4. I've never hand any problems with it. I looked at the website... it could be just 16 hours in front of the computer... but: what the heck is Limewire *for*? Whadaya do with it? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Limewire
On Feb 19, 2007, at 10:40 PM, john harvey wrote: Mainly - you infect your computer with spyware, adware, viruses, etc. and you can also steal some music too! I must be so naive. Thanks for the explanations. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Tracing (somebody else's) program flow tricks
On Feb 20, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: In the end, the customer just wanted a miracle. You have had some customers that didn't!?!?!?!? *That* would be a miracle. (Cue the a miracle happens here cartoon.) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fedora Download
On Feb 22, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: The FC CDs come with 'everything under the sun'. So... can anyone explain to your slow brother: Why? Is there any advantage to have it? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Linux Advantages
On Feb 24, 2007, at 6:00 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: It is hard to do anything in Linux because it is all a little different than Windows, MAC or even DOS. Well, I think that statement needs a bit of amplification. I'm an utter newb, having just set up my linux box a couple of weekends ago, and play time has been limited to whatever I can steal from the family on nights weekends. I, like none of us probably, am not a great example: we tend to figure out stuff pretty quickly. But for me, certain stuff has been drop-dead easy on Ubuntu: installing it, updating it and installed applications, installing new applications -- all as easy or easier than Windows/Mac ever were. Application software has been easy, too, though I have been using OO for a while on Windows. OTOH, those config files John commented on... For example, I set up the box with a spare monitor attached. I decided to move the linux over to my primary work space. It detected the monitor over there and built the configuration for it. BUT, I could not get it to choose resolution higher than 800x600, even though the configuration says it did. Moving the box over here, it didn't detect the different monitor. No biggie, thought I, install the driver. Simple. But, as of yet, no. Whil, Ted and our other brethren on the ProLinux side of the house have sent me a few suggestions, but I haven't been able to do (or in some cases understand) them yet. So in my extremely-limited experience: some stuff really easy, at least with the Ubantu interface. Other stuff not so much. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Video CNN
On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Helio W. wrote: Didn't they pick our addresses through a web crawler? A Google search shows profox archives... I think that spammers have gotten wise to the usual obfuscation techniques: me AT here DOT com, and all of the rest. After all, how hard would it be for any of us to write a program to find and convert such things? I have started to get spam from addresses that I only use for ProFox, and other such places. (It could have come the way Ed described in another post in this thread, too.) I think the only solution for us with our own domains is to change our subscription eMail addresses fairly regularly for these lists. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Video CNN
On Mar 4, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Or we could hire someone to kill the top 100 spammers. Well, sure, if you are only looking for *obvious* solutions. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] McCain: straight-talker
Universal Truth: Substitute: Any Politician seeking a Higher Office than it Currently Holds for McCain (And I *do* mean it) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fair price for Vista (was Re: [NF] MICROSOFT WINDOWS OUSTEDAT CALIFORNIA SCHOOL DISTRICT)
On Mar 7, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Allen wrote: More to the point is why pay for an upgrade when it offers nothing to do so. Here-here! I stopped at W2K, and hope to stay there. the only down- side I've found so far is that I'd like to try Adobe Premiere, but it only works on XP. I can live without it. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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…get a licensed realtor in your area to do a CMA (comparitive market analysis) on your property. spewing out coffee Gee, Virgil, you buy that load of crap? A licensed Realtor is just a member of an association. They have pathetic professional training and absurd ongoing education requirements. They are the least professional profession I have ever encountered. Their only goal is to get a listing, and their CMA can vary according to whether they think a high number or a low one will get them the listing. It's all they want. A realtor is the last refuge of the chronically unemployed. Damn few good ones exist. An appraiser does all of the comparables, too, and are much more savvy about mechanicals. Realtors don't know mechanicals worth spit. You are right, though about the valuation. Only a willing buyer and seller make the real determination. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Dissing Realtors...
KK: They are the least KK: professional profession I have ever encountered. TR: Well, there's Programmers. At least Realtors have a lapel pin ;) I almost added the comment well, except for programmers but I was sure somebody else would. Ken (Sorry for blowing off the Subject) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Realtors
On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Peter Cushing wrote: They are the least professional profession I have ever encountered. Sorry, this is a continuation of an [OT] discussion, to which I forgot to add in the Subject. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SQL 2005 intro videos free from M$
On Mar 9, 2007, at 6:05 AM, Man-wai CHANG wrote: Does MySQL really suck? Um, no. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] What's this nonsense about retiring from IT?
On Mar 25, 2007, at 7:48 PM, john harvey wrote: After 28 years of living with a woman, you just get beat down!s Haha 28 years? Ha! 28 days, more likely! On retirement, I have a hard time imagining not doing this. Absent the pressure to make money, though, I'd like to pursue other (non- revenue producing) interests with a larger percentage of my time. I'd like to write an opera, for example. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Date calculations.
On Mar 27, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Bryant Minard wrote: If I have variable (d = 397, the difference between two dates), how can I show that in years, months and days? (example 1 year, 1 month and 1 day) Has anyone written a function to do something like this? This is one I adapted that does each section. It would be easy to write a shell over it to do what you want. *** *** ** Adapted by: ** Kenneth B. Kixmoeller ** Jaguar Marketing Services, Inc. ** 35 Birchwood Lane ** Birchwood Village, Minnesota 55110-1609 USA ** Telephone612/978-9124 ** Facsimile651/653-7540 ** Electronic Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Web URL www.Information-Architecture.com * * VB.PRG = VBJaguar.PRG * Procedure file with VB function equivalents * * ** Adapted from Miriam Liskin's code from FoxPro Advisor, 3/2000 by: ** * Returns the result of subtracting two date/times, expressed in any date/time increment * FUNCTION DateDiff * * LPARAMETERS lcInterval, ldDateTime1, ldDateTime2, lnFirstDOW, lnFirstWeek lcInterval = LOWER(lcInterval) local lnReturn,ldDateTime1bk,ldDateTime2bk to back up the times lnReturn = .null. IF PARAMETERS() 4 lnFirstDOW = 1 ENDIF IF INLIST(lcInterval, h, n, s) * If time interval requested, convert Date to Date/Time IF VARTYPE(ldDateTime1) = D ldDateTime1 = DTOT(ldDateTime1) ENDIF IF VARTYPE(ldDateTime2) = D ldDateTime2 = DTOT(ldDateTime2) ENDIF ELSE * Otherwise, convert DateTime to Date IF VARTYPE(ldDateTime1) = T ldDateTime1bk = ldDateTime1 back up the original time values for later evaluation ldDateTime1 = TTOD(ldDateTime1) ENDIF IF VARTYPE(ldDateTime2) = T ldDateTime2bk = ldDateTime2 back up the original time values for later evaluation ldDateTime2 = TTOD(ldDateTime2) ENDIF ENDIF DO CASE CASE lcInterval = Years lnReturn = YEAR(ldDateTime2) - YEAR(ldDateTime1) */** kbk: For my purposes, I was looking only for Whole years, therefore: if (lnReturn 0) AND (MONTH(ldDateTime1) = MONTH(ldDateTime2)) lnReturn = lnReturn -1 endif CASE lcInterval = qQuarters IF MONTH(ldDateTime2) = MONTH(ldDateTime1) lnMonths = (YEAR(ldDateTime2) - YEAR(ldDateTime1)) * 12 +; MONTH(ldDateTime2) - MONTH(ldDateTime1) ELSE lnMonths = (YEAR(ldDateTime2) - YEAR(ldDateTime1) - 1) * 12 +; MONTH(ldDateTime2) + 12 - MONTH(ldDateTime1) ENDIF lnReturn = INT(lnMonths / 3) CASE lcInterval = mMonths IF MONTH(ldDateTime2) = MONTH(ldDateTime1) lnReturn = (YEAR(ldDateTime2) - YEAR(ldDateTime1)) * 12 +; MONTH(ldDateTime2) - MONTH(ldDateTime1) ELSE lnReturn = (YEAR(ldDateTime2) - YEAR(ldDateTime1) - 1) * 12 +; MONTH(ldDateTime2) + 12 - MONTH(ldDateTime1) ENDIF */** kbk: Ditto: For my purposes, I was looking only for Whole Months, therefore: if day(ldDateTime1) day(ldDateTime2) lnReturn = lnReturn - 1 endif CASE INLIST(lcInterval, y, d)Days lnReturn = ldDateTime2 - ldDateTime1 */** kbk:Ditto, I was looking only for Whole Days, therefore: */** when passing Times, losing the time forestalled the ability to determine whether */** it was a whole day if vartype(ldDateTime1bk) == T AND vartype(ldDateTime2bk) == T We started with Time if hour(ldDateTime1bk) hour(ldDateTime2bk) the hour of the first one is bigger thatn the hour of the second (we haven't yet traversed a full day) lnReturn = lnReturn - 1
Re: Date calculations.
On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:06 PM, john harvey wrote: Gee, do you think maybe they didn't want to get caught forgetting some obscure bit of a conversation during 8 hours of grilling, like Libbey did? I didn't know Libbey() or GBW() functions calculated date differences. Please send those functions along! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Date calculations.
On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: Wow, are you coming from another planet or what? You are just asking this question now?!?!?!?! gdr ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Date calculations.
On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:38 PM, john harvey wrote: I've started randomizing my responses Boy, did you open a really big door there... Resist! Too easy! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Experience with Avast A/V?
Is it effective without turning your machine into a doorstop (like some well-known A/V programs)? Anyone? Anyone? Tanks Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with Avast A/V?
On Mar 29, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: Anyone? Anyone? Thanks, Brian and Alan! My brother (a classic User) is using it. He has a history of making very bad decisions surrounding his PC. Glad to know this wasn't one of them. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] - RE: Energy efficient vehicles
Sheep! (-- [OT]) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Changes to Postings
On Mar 31, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Sales Info wrote: PS: I hope you're not planning on increasing your membership fees :) Bad news: he told me off-list that he is preparing a 75% increase in the annual fee. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Changes to Postings
On Mar 31, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: But that's spread out over a 3-year period. Don't exaggerate! I have *never* exaggerated. Not once in my life. Never, ever! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Google is now offering free broadband
Today's Woot is even more, um, compelling. (http://www.woot.com) On Apr 1, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Apr 1, 2007, at 2:36 PM, Derek Kalweit wrote: http://www.google.com/tisp/install.html Is it only available today? ;-) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Firefox cruds out often?
On Apr 1, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: And I'll just love the new, non-obese me, they promise. Now you'll *finally* be able to accept that money order from the Emir of Pashtoon's Brother-in-law, if only you seed the account with a mere $1,000. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP printing to file or email
On Sep 13, 2006, at 2:02 PM, John J. Mihaljevic wrote: How would I print to Word? As I said, try frxtoword. It is free on the UT, or used to be. If it is a relatively-simple report, it should work. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Nick_to_First.prg
Hey - -- - Anybody have or know of a source of Nicknames and their Formal name targets? IOW: Bob = Robert Bobby = Robert Joe = Joseph Babs = Barbara I am back in the business of doing a biggish data conversion, and I'd like to find a way to compare multiple name entries. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Nick_to_First.prg
On Sep 14, 2006, at 2:33 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: Babs = Barbara Well, I'm called that one, but I'm not a Barbara! ;-) So says who? ;=} ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Nick_to_First.prg
On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Ken, in rare exceptions this doesn't work. My friend named his kid Jack and it isn't short for john. His birth certificate says jack. I am not using it for direct conversions -- I should have said that. I won't convert Jack Johnson to John Johnson. I intend to use it for comparisons -- I have a bunch of names, some are self-entered from the Web, others by client staff. I am trying to de-dup them. IOW, I can use this comparison of names and nicknames to find a possible match: Mike Madigan and Michael Madigan. Then I'll use *other stuff* like phone numbers, addresses, etc. validate or debunk the suspicion that they are the same person. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Nick_to_First.prg
On Sep 14, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: Or, you could send it to a mail house *cough cough* that has dedicated merge-purge software to find dups... Ahem, ahem -- I suppose, but (as usual) I am oversimplifying the task at hand (so as not to bore y'all with minutia). So, ahem, the other part of the story is an ongoing need that will run interactively. (Same answer to Virgil). Thanks both. I found a bunch of given/nickname lists on the Wikipedia and a couple of genealogy sites. Made a quick conversion program and ended up with 2,038 unique given/nick name pairs. Because of the genealogy sites, some of the pairs are quite quaint: - Algernon/Algy - Alphinias/Alphus Others are pretty, um, unusual (at least to my frame of reference): - Araminta/Ruminta - Carthaette/Etty And some that make my head hurt: - Casper/Jasper - Zadock/Melchizedek But it achieved my goal of getting the most typical ones, and I can clean it up and add to it over time. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: data[base] design
Consultant answer: Depends OK, now that we have that out of the way, what do you mean by family? These days, family has lots of permutations: dad's family, mom's family, other mom's family... I prefer this: family - fam_link - persons fam_link includes properties such as: role (father, mother, sister, etc. contact_level (1,2,3 in your description) This permits one person (I presume a student?) to have more than one family, and lets you freely choose the primary, secondary contacts among all of the persons. reflects reality the best way I know how. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Avast, me Mateys: we almost missed it
Hoist a cask o' grog, as it is Talk like a Pirate day. Modest Proposition: Fer th' rest o' the day, all posts are in Pirate Talk. Ah! http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: laptop security
On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote: When I send a (original) message to profox, it takes 2 days to show up. Any clues ? HTML formatting? Different from address than the one with which you subscribed? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Brain fade
On Sep 24, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote: Does anyone have some idea what I'm doing wrong ? Do you have statements somewhere to INCLUDE them? Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Brain fade
(oops -- hit that darn enter to send too fast) e.g.: EXTERNAL FILE ; this.bmp,; that.gif,; etc.etc... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted in the US!
On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Leland Jackson wrote: Regards, LelandJ Bill Arnold wrote: OK, fines double on every subsequent reply to a mislabeled OT post. Who gives a spit about some VW model? All of you: toss your fines into the OT jar! Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Text formating in a Grid
On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Anthony L. Testi wrote: Aligment1 - right OK, but shouldn't be necessary Format $$,$$$ ( I do not think this is needed) Just a single $ in here InputMask $$,$$$ ( This is what I thought was important ) 99,999 would be the better inputmask So what am I missing? Sparse = .T. in the Column properties Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Better way than GETWORD... functions?
On Sep 26, 2006, at 8:30 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: You could switch to Python; there it would be as simple as: theWords = Apple,Banana,Cucumber,Dates,Eggplant.split(,) ...and then theWords is an array or collection of those values...right? Cool. PHP has that, too, but I am too tired to remember the syntax. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Buyer beware! (Long)
On Sep 27, 2006, at 7:18 AM, mrgmhale wrote: TigerDirect has also been good to work with MMDV -- My Milage Did Vary -- significantly. They are still stuck in rebate-land, and their rebate process is so draconian that even the Rebate Queen (my better 3/4) gave up and made me do it. The rebate scam was complete with: - misleading instructions, - a nearly-impossible Web site, and; - a process that was extremely tedious and time-consuming. Example: there was no link from the purchase receipt to the product rebate, only to the rebate site. You had to enter a 20+-digit product number (that didn't include anything that made it easier to read, like dashes to break the number up). After that you had to choose the exactly-right rebate from all of those offered on the same product, the only difference being a small range of purchase dates. After *that* you had to print out a rebate form, which didn't fit on one piece of paper -- critical information was obscured by the page break from the first to second page. the rebate form required paper copies of receipts (remember -- these were rebates directly from TD's vendors -- they *had* all of the proof, not like a store purchase). Finally, you could choose to have your rebate check expedited for a small fee that constituted 40% of the rebate you were getting, otherwise the check was 8-10 weeks away. I have *no* idea whether I got all of them. It was an utter scam. It was designed to make claiming the (highly advertised) rebate nearly impossible. I reported it to the MN AG, and will NEVER*** do business with TigerDirect again. My blood pressure is accelerating again typing this. MF'ers. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently
On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Russell Campbell wrote:
Well, your remark seems kind of snide
You are right about that. Unusual, because __stephen is the one who
most consistently pushes the boundaries of {NF} posts to include
anything vaguely technical or even scientific: Bad Steve!
I found the discussion extremely interesting, helpful, and relevant.
Ken
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Re: That database app is s-o-o-o yesterday!
On Oct 1, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: Huh. That's a re-run. http://www.g4tv.com/techtvvault/features/45928/ FoxTrots_Geekiest_Comic_Strips.html Is it some kind of geeky insider joke that all three pages have the same two strips? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
