Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Hi, In the office here we all run dual Dell 2000FP LCD panels an absolute bargain considering the size and spec (1600x1200 pixels, CVBS in, DVI in, YC in). All set at 1600 x 1200 and they are fantastic. For graphics cards we have gone with an Nvidia card that has dual DVI output, we found the Dells analogue RGB to be quite poor. We paid about £500 each for the Dells (but we bought 8 in one go) but I have seen them on eBay for a lot less than this. Before this I had a 19 and 17 dual CRT setup, still good but not as good as the dual LCD (soo much more relaxing on the eye's). The last thing I will say is you really want to run both display at the same resolution, it soon becomes a pain if you don't. Regards, Peter Smith Raster Vision Ltd UK -Original Message- From: Jim Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 August 2004 19:54 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Multiple Displays I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). JM * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
I have used several nVidia based cards with dual monitor setups. My main system has two 20.1 1600x1200 DELL LCD monitors both on DVI and works great. Another system is actually a DELL laptop with a CRT externally again both 1600x1200. I also had some other cards that didn't support the same resolution on both displays but worked fine. All this under Windows XP pro and I have used DXP 2004 on these configurations. Once you go there though it is very difficuly if not impossible to go back even for normal computing needs. Chris. BTW the dell LCD monitors regularly go on sale for around $800 not bad for 1600x1200 with VGA, DVI, SVIDEO and composite video inputs. -Original Message- From: Matt Pobursky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:27 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:53:56 -0700, Jim Monroe wrote: I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? I run in the same configuration you're proposing: Win2K, 21 CRT, 17 LCD, two different resolutions stretched across the Windows desktop. As far as I know, Matrox Dualhead cards are the only ones on the market that can pull this off. When I was looking at ATI and Nvidia cards, their tech support told me they couldn't do (and never would). * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Not if you operate on multiple instances... (hint) -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:42 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays Note about using different resolutions on each monitor: With Protel, It is not absolutely necessary to have it completely occupy both screens, still make good productive use of the 2 monitors. In my setup, my main monitor has all protel, my second has protel filled out half way. This is where I have all the control applet component/pcb browser, the rest of my second screen has normal desktop utils, like a scientific calculator is always going usually a .pdf data sheet is up while I work. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Thanks everybody for your comments and recommendations regarding multiple displays. Now feel confident enough to make some purchasing decisions. JM * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
I've got a matrox parhelia with two seventeen inch tft displays at 1280*1024. works great. I generally have the panels open all of the time on the second monitor, main workspace on the primary. Different resolutions should be fine as long as your gfx card doesn't 'stretch' the display across the two monitors (which sucks) make sure they are two separate displays. The parhelia is good at this, but is getting a little old now I guess. It certainly makes DXP04 a lot better to use! Hope it helps Rich -Original Message- From: Jim Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 August 2004 19:54 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Multiple Displays I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). JM * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Jim Monroe wrote: 1. Is this a good strategy? Having a second monitor is very helpful, to the point that you will have a very hard time going back to a single monitor setup. 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? There is no problem mixing CRT and flat panel. As for mixing resolutions, that really depends upon your video card. The first dual monitor setup I had was with different resolutions, under Win 2K. In that setup, the second monitor could only be 1024x768. The second setup under XP using a ten top of the line Radeon required the monitors to have identical resolution. The current setup under XP using a nVidia Quadro FX500 can have different resolutions, but since I now have two 21 monitors, I run them both at 2048x1536. The maximum resolution and whether they have to be identical or different is totally dependent upon the video card. Check your video card to make sure that it can support it. 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). Two 21 CRT both running at 2048x1536 works really well. But you need a large desk space, a large wallet and similar setup on every computer that you use seriously. Hamid * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:53:56 -0700, Jim Monroe wrote: I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? I run in the same configuration you're proposing: Win2K, 21 CRT, 17 LCD, two different resolutions stretched across the Windows desktop. As far as I know, Matrox Dualhead cards are the only ones on the market that can pull this off. When I was looking at ATI and Nvidia cards, their tech support told me they couldn't do (and never would). BTW, I use Matrox G400 MAX video cards and they are awesome for dualhead CAD work. I picked several up on Ebay for a song (~$25 ea.). The newer G450 and G550 cards will also work OK, although they actually are slower than the G400 MAX. I wish they hadn't stopped production on the G400 MAX cards. 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). It works great for me. I used to run a 17 CRT as the second monitor, but I love the LCD as a secondary work area. I'd never use it for CAD, but it's great for looking at pdf files, email, web browsing, etc. That's personal preference though, I think LCDs are harsh compared to CRTs. Then again, I work in a very subdued light environment and it has really reduced the eye strain for me. I think your configuration will work well -- it has for me this past year or so. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:19:41 +0100, Rich Thompson wrote: I've got a matrox parhelia with two seventeen inch tft displays at 1280*1024. works great. I generally have the panels open all of the time on the second monitor, main workspace on the primary. Different resolutions should be fine as long as your gfx card doesn't 'stretch' the display across the two monitors (which sucks) make sure they are I actually like this mode -- you can just drag stuff from one desktop to another. I tried two separate desktops (horizontal and vertical) and didn't like it as well. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
My son uses his HP ZD7000 with the internal Nvidia graphics in a dual monitor mode with 2 different resolutions and it works fine. We find dual monitors very handy. At 02:26 PM 8/5/04 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:53:56 -0700, Jim Monroe wrote: I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? I run in the same configuration you're proposing: Win2K, 21 CRT, 17 LCD, two different resolutions stretched across the Windows desktop. As far as I know, Matrox Dualhead cards are the only ones on the market that can pull this off. When I was looking at ATI and Nvidia cards, their tech support told me they couldn't do (and never would). BTW, I use Matrox G400 MAX video cards and they are awesome for dualhead CAD work. I picked several up on Ebay for a song (~$25 ea.). The newer G450 and G550 cards will also work OK, although they actually are slower than the G400 MAX. I wish they hadn't stopped production on the G400 MAX cards. 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). It works great for me. I used to run a 17 CRT as the second monitor, but I love the LCD as a secondary work area. I'd never use it for CAD, but it's great for looking at pdf files, email, web browsing, etc. That's personal preference though, I think LCDs are harsh compared to CRTs. Then again, I work in a very subdued light environment and it has really reduced the eye strain for me. I think your configuration will work well -- it has for me this past year or so. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems Larry G. Nelson Sr. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mchipguru.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Jim, Yes, but you have to make sure that the video card and associated drivers are capable of handling the mixed load. Nvidia's hardware and software provide these capabilities with issue and are in general quite affordable, and no, I don't really care about Matrox, since it's such a crappy company. One thing to remember is that if you're going with both LCD and CRT, make sure that the video outputs are compatible with the monitors you've chosen. For instance, if you choose an all digital LCD in (can you still get these?) then you'll need a video card with a DVI connector. Some people swear that you have to have DVI for video performance. I don't know...Seems so much snobbery, like oxygen free speaker cable, SCSI is better than EIDE and techno-bull, usually sponsored by no-nothings and richie riches out to my dog is bigger everyone. In terms of ideals, obviously, the ultimate multi-display utilizes identical monitors of exceptionally large size and superior resolution, color quality, etc. If only I were one of the idle rich... My opinionated 2 cents. NVIdia-based MX440 or similar is a cost-effective solution, but again, make sure about electrical connections and the LCD you'ver chosen... aj -Original Message- From: Jim Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:54 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Multiple Displays I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). JM * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
To be honest I don't think the prices are that high anymore, I was looking at two Mitsubishi 22 monitors for about $700 before shipping, I remember dishing out $2500 for an NEC 6FG. As far as the Hospitals go yes they get their money from the Insurance companies, Ok I'm way off track and about to rant later - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays Two 21 CRT both running at 2048x1536 works really well. But you need a large desk space, a large wallet and similar setup on every computer that you use seriously. Hamid Its amazing what people are getting rid of. I got 4, 21 Hitachi monitors for $90 each. Works great. A local guy had bought a pallet of them at auction. I suspect they came from local hospitals, who have the bucks to go the lcd's. GC * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Matt Not sure if we are talking about the same thing or not. When I said stretch I meant the cheap cards that run the display at eg 2048xx768 and stretch it across the two monitors. The 'start' menu then appears on the left monitor while the 'clock' appears on the right monitor. Both monitors have to run at the same res (as it is actually) I can drag stuff from one monitor to the other, but they are actually completely separate with regards desktop area and resolution (no task bar on the second) windows correctly maximise to the respective monitor and appear correctly on the designated monitor, rather than centred between the two. What a pain that is. Take Care Rich -Original Message- From: Matt Pobursky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 August 2004 21:07 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:19:41 +0100, Rich Thompson wrote: I've got a matrox parhelia with two seventeen inch tft displays at 1280*1024. works great. I generally have the panels open all of the time on the second monitor, main workspace on the primary. Different resolutions should be fine as long as your gfx card doesn't 'stretch' the display across the two monitors (which sucks) make sure they are I actually like this mode -- you can just drag stuff from one desktop to another. I tried two separate desktops (horizontal and vertical) and didn't like it as well. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Ahhh, gotcha. Yes, that is a crappy display mode. It sounds like you use the same video mode with your Parhelia that I do with my G400 card. Matrox really has nice drivers and support pretty much all modes possible. According to their web site, the reason they can do the dual res. desktop thing in Win2K is that Win2K requires two physically separate video controllers (which they have, effectively 2 cards on a chip) and they also hack the Win2K GDI kernel to provide two virtual drivers from one physical chip (something Win98 and WinXP support natively, but Win2K does not). They also spent a long time writing (very) stable drivers to achieve this. At this point in time, nVidia and ATI appear to consider Win2K extinct and aren't about to spend any money or time writing drivers to make their cards work this way in Win2K. Matt On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 21:50:42 +0100, Rich Thompson wrote: Matt Not sure if we are talking about the same thing or not. When I said stretch I meant the cheap cards that run the display at eg 2048xx768 and stretch it across the two monitors. The 'start' menu then appears on the left monitor while the 'clock' appears on the right monitor. Both monitors have to run at the same res (as it is actually) I can drag stuff from one monitor to the other, but they are actually completely separate with regards desktop area and resolution (no task bar on the second) windows correctly maximise to the respective monitor and appear correctly on the designated monitor, rather than centred between the two. What a pain that is. Take Care Rich -Original Message- From: Matt Pobursky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 August 2004 21:07 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:19:41 +0100, Rich Thompson wrote: I've got a matrox parhelia with two seventeen inch tft displays at 1280*1024. works great. I generally have the panels open all of the time on the second monitor, main workspace on the primary. Different resolutions should be fine as long as your gfx card doesn't 'stretch' the display across the two monitors (which sucks) make sure they are I actually like this mode -- you can just drag stuff from one desktop to another. I tried two separate desktops (horizontal and vertical) and didn't like it as well. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Hi all: On video cards: I have run multiple head video at home for a long time, but that has been under linux. I now have a dual head card here at work, with a 19 LCD as the primary display, and my old 19 CRT as the secondary. We bought an nVidia-based video card especially for this: as we were buying a new computer anyway the expense wasn't that great. I didn't buy the card, so I don't know how much it cost. When it comes to CRT's, nothing beats driving them with Matrox cards. I used to use a GF4 at home, now I have downgraded to a matrox G450 - there is a noticeable difference in clarity. The Matrox won't do the 3D that the nvidia could, but it's sharper - better IMO for Protel (except I don't run Protel at home...). I have had about 2 days' experience with Windows XP and dual heads; a number of things aren't quite the way I expect them to be, but they're all OS issues. I still have to get my feet wet with DXP yet, but in the 1/2 hour I've used it so far it's seemed that dual head is essential. I won't bore you all with the OS issues, I'll just say that the X Window System treats multiple displays much much better than Windows (and is a better desktop all round, for a number of reasons I won't go into). Cheers, Matthew van de Werken - Electronics Engineer CSIRO Exploration Mining - Mining Geoscience Group 1 Technology Court - Pullenvale - Qld - 4069 ph: (07) 3327 4142 fax: (07) 3327 4455 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 5:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays Jim, Yes, but you have to make sure that the video card and associated drivers are capable of handling the mixed load. Nvidia's hardware and software provide these capabilities with issue and are in general quite affordable, and no, I don't really care about Matrox, since it's such a crappy company. One thing to remember is that if you're going with both LCD and CRT, make sure that the video outputs are compatible with the monitors you've chosen. For instance, if you choose an all digital LCD in (can you still get these?) then you'll need a video card with a DVI connector. Some people swear that you have to have DVI for video performance. I don't know...Seems so much snobbery, like oxygen free speaker cable, SCSI is better than EIDE and techno-bull, usually sponsored by no-nothings and richie riches out to my dog is bigger everyone. In terms of ideals, obviously, the ultimate multi-display utilizes identical monitors of exceptionally large size and superior resolution, color quality, etc. If only I were one of the idle rich... My opinionated 2 cents. NVIdia-based MX440 or similar is a cost-effective solution, but again, make sure about electrical connections and the LCD you'ver chosen... aj -Original Message- From: Jim Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:54 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Multiple Displays I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). JM * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
-Original Message- From: Jim Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:54 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Multiple Displays I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? Jim Most definitely a wise move although be aware of the trade off on LCD panals as most at 17 will only support 1280x1024 so in some instances a case can be made for a second 21 @ 1600x1200 plus instead. 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? There is also a lot to be said when swapping panels between monitors of same resolution so as not to lose a part of the panel off screen! Yes they can be mixed, I have used matrox cards for long and weary and never seen an issue, first was G100/MilleniumII up to Parhelia (2 monitor mode, don't use 3 monitor stretched). 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). Currently at home I use a Parhelia working in 2 monitor mode, and an additional nVidia PCI card for the third monitor all at 1280x1024 Flat panel display (2 x DVI, 1 x RGB). I thought this would be good for a while but find this configuration slightly less productive than the dual 1600x1200 20 CRT. I had considered a 4th but there is no desk space left :-) John * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
Hi all, Just for the record, at home I have a 'budget' dual setup as follows: 19CRT as main display running off a Geforce4 MX AGP (cheapie) 15CRT as secondary display running off an(ancient but reliable) Tseng Labs ET6100 in a free PCI port. According to Micro$oft, this should not be possible with this particular PCI card, but is (for those who are interested) if you set the PCI video card as the primary in your BIOS. Voi la! Dual monitors on a budget! Just my $0.02, TC -Original Message- From: John A. Ross [RSDTV] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 10:16 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays -Original Message- From: Jim Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:54 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Multiple Displays I'm getting ready to add a second monitor for use with DXP04 running on Win2k. I'm hoping those with experience can guide me in the right direction. I'm thinking about adding a 15 or 17 inch flat panel as the secondary display to my 21 CRT. I thought the flat panel would be used for display of panels and reports while the CRT would be used for the editing workspace. Here are some things I'm curious sure about: 1. Is this a good strategy? Jim Most definitely a wise move although be aware of the trade off on LCD panals as most at 17 will only support 1280x1024 so in some instances a case can be made for a second 21 @ 1600x1200 plus instead. 2. Is my proposed mix of CRT and flat panel even feasible, and can the flat panel be set for a lower resolution than the CRT. If this is hardware dependant, is there anything special I should know? There is also a lot to be said when swapping panels between monitors of same resolution so as not to lose a part of the panel off screen! Yes they can be mixed, I have used matrox cards for long and weary and never seen an issue, first was G100/MilleniumII up to Parhelia (2 monitor mode, don't use 3 monitor stretched). 3. I'd like to hear about multi-display configurations that work especially well (or don't work well). Currently at home I use a Parhelia working in 2 monitor mode, and an additional nVidia PCI card for the third monitor all at 1280x1024 Flat panel display (2 x DVI, 1 x RGB). I thought this would be good for a while but find this configuration slightly less productive than the dual 1600x1200 20 CRT. I had considered a 4th but there is no desk space left :-) John * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
