[QUAD-L] experiences with robaxin and tylenol 3...?
I have been taking 500 mg of robaxin and tylenol with codeine (don't know mg) for the last week for neck, shoulder and back pain. I take them 3 x day and if I don't I am pretty much miserable. I just got acupuncture and cupping, which usually works for me but the students I had sucked and I have to go again. I will have to go a couple more times, along with some massage, as I let the pain and stiffness build up for a while. I feel like a junkie asking for more next week. But I need it or I will kill the next person that irritates me when my back is in pain. Has anyone here quickly built up a tolerance to these? I know all the regular precautions with this stuff. It doesn't make me sleepy or weird. I just would like to hear any personal experiences you would like to share. Thanks! Kaye -- Our Similarities bring us to a common ground; Our Differences allow us to be fascinated by each other -Tom Robbins
Re: [QUAD-L] FW:
A friendly request... Next time your blood is boiling- may not be the best time to post something. So. Take a deep breath, wait a day, check your facts, post. I'm all for dialogue and not diatribes. Thanks On 3/13/08, Silas Shelburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *To:* Undisclosed-Recipient:; *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:38 PM The Bible warns us of Barack Obama! Body: The Bible has warned us that 'A man will come from the East that will be charismatic in nature and have proposed solutions for all our problems and his rhetoric will attract many supporters!' When will our pathetic Nation quit turning their back on God and understand that this man is 'A Muslim'First, Last and alwaysand we are AT WAR with the Muslim Nation, whether our bleeding-heart, secular, Liberal friends believe it or not. This man fits every description from the Bible of the 'Anti-Christ'! I'm just glad to know that there are others that are frightened by this man! Who is Barack Obama? Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice. If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it. snopes.com .. confirms this is factual. Check for yourself. Who is Barack Obama? Probable U.S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita , Kansas . Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.' Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical. Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he *DID NOT* use the *HOLY BIBLE*, but instead the Koran. Barack Hussein Obama will *NOT* recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Do you want someone like this as your PRESIDENT? Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own! Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?.. NOT ME! -- Our Similarities bring us to a common ground; Our Differences allow us to be fascinated by each other -Tom Robbins
Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Mouse
I have gotten comfortable with the standard setup on my laptop but at work I use logitec. I like that one a lot. On Jan 31, 2008 6:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was funny! *Naomi* C4 quadriplegic since July 2005 due to Transverse Myelitis -- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shapehttp://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489in the new year. -- Our Similarities bring us to a common ground; Our Differences allow us to be fascinated by each other -Tom Robbins
Re: [QUAD-L] prego- Junk vs Jewels
lol well i don't want anyone's junk in my trunk but do like the jewels to be hand polished! ;-) On 7/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always had the notion that Junk... went in the trunk and Jewels were always kept hand polished and ready to display Do I have that wrong? (lol) W In a message dated 7/24/2007 8:49:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wear these tight granny pantie things...but I guess that might be tough for a guy- would squeeze your junk pretty tight! On 7/24/07, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . -- The greatest danger of bombs is in the explosion of stupidity that they provoke. -Octave Mirbeau
Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Strap
yeah and how do you make a leg strap look good? Maybe I should velcro my knees together. On 7/24/07, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No matter how well one dresses you cannot look good wearing a strap, thus enters my vanity strap. I wear vests with nearly everything. The chest strap is put through the arm holes and is fastened under the vest. My jacket I had a tailor cut holes under the arm pit to run the chest strap. Looks great, I have even put slits in several shirts, looks good. Merrill -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:33 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again In a message dated 7/23/2007 10:13:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *Error! Cannot read or display file.**Error! Cannot read or display file.* yesterday out by my pool, i cut the corner too short and my left power wheel dropped over. i leaned way to the right and went back and forth a few times - i finally got out whew. it gets to 110 here these days and my cell would have gone in with me. i'm not strapped in so i would have floated free but getting out and into the house would have been rough. i'm much more careful now i don't even like going out there without my cell. i'm alone most days. dave So sorryGreg. I guess you don't wear a belt of any kind? I don't wear my shoulder belt around the house when I go out I use my shoulder strap. Do other quads were belts?Just wondering! Dana In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:28:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got stuck again yesterday. Walking my dog, I was turning around on the sidewalk and my back wheel dropped off into the dirt. It was a bit of an edge and while trying to get my rear wheel back on, one of the front ones slipped off too. Very soft dirt and it sunk in. Too much of an edge to get back up. I'm lucky I had my cell, I almost left it thinking I'd just be in the area. I've gotten stuck so many times, I'd probably be a skeleton sitting in a wheelchair somewhere if not for my cell. Greg Dave Visit My Home Page http://www.users.qwest.net/%7Edaveoc/index.html -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . -- The greatest danger of bombs is in the explosion of stupidity that they provoke. -Octave Mirbeau
Re: FW: [QUAD-L] prego
I wear these tight granny pantie things...but I guess that might be tough for a guy- would squeeze your junk pretty tight! On 7/24/07, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the binder to fit work correctly it ctly it generaly takes two people to put it on. That boyish figure will take work regardless what you do. If it is too much effort you will soon look to be caring triplets! Wearing it increases blood pressure, breathing and reduces appetite. mb -- *From:* Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:22 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] prego My wife only put a binder on me the 1st week or so, then said forget it---it is just to much work to put on each day.so for nearly 10 years I look like a pregnant male too lol, my grandkids joke saying pawpaw when you having your baby? Oh well my wife is still with me so...I don't gotta go cruising for chics. ;-) Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/2007 5:32:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just can't stand my quad belly it takes away so much of my persona, could I look any less pregnant my fellow quad friends? help !2 any suggestions?? Eddie An AB binder or elimination of eating anything white, sugar, flour, starch, rice and bread. W -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . -- The greatest danger of bombs is in the explosion of stupidity that they provoke. -Octave Mirbeau
Re: [QUAD-L] VR BSCI
God Jeremy, I am pissed with you. Please keep us posted. What city are you in by the way? Kaye On 7/13/07, Jeremy Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday was a bittersweet kind of day. I had a meeting with Voc Rehab and Brain and Spinal Cord Injury Program (BSCI). Voc Rehab is currently paying tuition, books, and nursing while I'm at school. BSCI pays for my nursing outside of school. Everything has been ok, until the meeting. At the meeting, BSCI told me that they need to cut my services to their guidelines starting in October. Basically what they told me is that if I can't cut my nursing services down to 3 hours a day (I get at least 20 hours a day now) they will terminate me from their program. That means I will not be going to school and I will not be able to move out. My parents would have to take care of me 24/7. This is is so frustrating to me. My condition did not improve enough to not need nursing. I wish it did. How can they help and support me and then tell me to cut back? I can get attendant care and personal care but those people can't give me medication (which I get every 3 hours), they can't cath me, nor can they put oxygen on me (which I sleep with). I told them to put it in writing and I'm going to appeal the process. I'm just so pissed. I don't know what else to do. Thought I'd share. Jeremy Dickinson C-3 Quad, 24 6 1/2 years post -- The greatest danger of bombs is in the explosion of stupidity that they provoke. -Octave Mirbeau
Re: [QUAD-L] warm or cold hershey ??
the best milk chocolate bar was something a friend brought back from belgium...it had its shape but not for long! As soon as it hit your mouth it began melting, and fast. Even your fingers would leave smears as soon as you touched it. Heaven. I prefer that kind...not hard chocolate i don't like to wait for the melt and dont really chew chocolate! MMMmmm On 7/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so do you guys prefer cold Hershey bars that hold their shape and almost demand chewing OR warm Hershey bars than melt in your mouth in a mushy creamy mess and stick to your roof like putty until you suck it off ten minutes later?? think carefully - cold, crunchy, disappears-before-you-taste-it or warm, mushy, stick to your roof, last-10-minute, better-than-drugs soft n warm.. guess which I'm doin' right now dave -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503. -- The greatest danger of bombs is in the explosion of stupidity that they provoke. -Octave Mirbeau
Re: [QUAD-L] Ditropan patch
That sounds awesome...My gums are receding partially due to the ditropan, at least thats what the dentist said. What type of insurance do you have? On 6/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Urologist put me on OXYTROL, a patch that takes the place of takingb1 ditropan 5mg 3x a day. No dry mouth! GA -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503. -- The greatest danger of bombs is in the explosion of stupidity that they provoke. -Octave Mirbeau
[QUAD-L] car dilemma
Anybody drive a car out there? I am getting a car after having driven a van for about 13 years. I'll get a car topper put on it, a new folding chair, an adapted gear shift (if the shifter is the kind that sits between the seats), the usual hand controls. I've been eyeing this '04 Malibu that has 30k miles and is still under warranty for the rest of the year. Here are my two biggest problems: The seat and parking brake. No seat is perfect, in fact, no seat seems to work for me and will need some kind of modification. I have driven in a car with no drivers power seat. It was fine but at that time I had more assistance and don't remember too well. The power seat was necessary in the van, with the swivel seat base because I HAD to move it around to get in and out. So, I may be able to get away with having a seat that is not power. THEN I will have to build up the seat somehow (a pillow?) to get it at the perfect height and then cover it with a leather or vinyl cover for easy transfer. Any good methods on building up a seat and making it easy for transfer? The parking brake situation...I think I can deal with the kind that sits between the seats with the little button on top. This Malibu has a pedal, though. So I would have to pay at least $900 for an electric brake. maybe twice that much. So I'm thinking to maybe go with some sort of manual device. I had something like this with my Astro- a rod with a big ball at the end. I rarely used it though because once you push it down, once you release it again, it would smack your hand really hard. I don't know yet if there have been improvements on this. I just don't want to pay $1,000k for something I rarely use. Anybody do any home jobs for thse pedal brakes? This is driving me NUTS thinking about all the what ifs! Why can't independance be easy?! I should have asked about this a while ago...help! -Kaye -- The greatest danger of bombs is in the explosion of stupidity that they provoke. -Octave Mirbeau
Re: [QUAD-L] about driving a car
Thanks! -k On 5/30/07, RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As far as applying a floor emergency brake pedal, I just bought an extention rod with a ball on it from my mobility dealer. Now I had a hard time pulling the plastic lever to release the brakemy dad drilled two holes in the plastic lever and attached a zip tie through the holesthis allows me to put hand in the zip tie and release the brake. If you can use a swivel transfer seat in a van, you should be able to transfer into the right car no prob. 1) you really need a two door car for the extra room to bring chair up close and pull legs in 2)you will need a folding chair, with a sling back because the chair topper cant pick up a rigid chair. 3)possible adaptation on the gear shift depending on hand function. 4) leather seats would be a plus , and a power seat( standard equipment) 5) if you get cloth seats, nylon pants can be worn The drawback to a car with a topper is in bad weather all the transferring is done in the rain. A van once your inside and you close the door you are safe and out of the weather. The car will handle a bit better and get somewhat better gas milege. I would say you would look cooler but with the obnoxious top its a toss up with a van, lol. ron c7 -- The greatest danger of bombs is in the explosion of stupidity that they provoke. -Octave Mirbeau
Re: [QUAD-L] walking pills
I'll take some! Try anything once ;-) On 5/10/07, KK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pills get up walk? That would at least give me a laugh for the day! KK -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Fish oil
Fish and other oils can be good for a lot of things including depression and overall immunity health. I started taking my fish oil and vitamins again and can feel the difference in my attitude (the B vitamins are good for that, too). Also, my pee looks great! -k On 5/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart thinking and a very wise thing to do. Ask your Grandpa about the beneficial use of a product called Cod Liver Oil. A teaspoon every other day. Kids used to pinch their noses, so they couldn't taste the stuff, lol. But there are no historical records that say anyone died from using it. Just make sure your doctor knows. Best Wishes W In a message dated 5/7/2007 8:15:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I forgot to ask my doctor whether it was okay to take the fish oil I purchased a couple of weeks ago. My understanding is it is good for the heart and people have recommended taking it. However, I take an 81 mg aspirin every other day to keep my blood on the thin side, so I'm wondering what if it would be wise to start such a product without asking first. Quadius -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] ROHO Cushion-and a nudist
omg...lmao! if only i had the guts. On 4/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once, I met a real female nudist, in her chair. Well, I think she was a nudist. I mean she was in a chair, ala natural. She gave me the impression that she was a nudist. Or maybe it was a nudist car wash and she was naked at the time. Maybe she wasn't a nudist. Just a woman who wanted to wash her chair and not get her clothes wet. Oh Well, it was a great thought. W In a message dated 4/28/2007 12:58:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's an interesting topic. I have never met a nudist in a wheelchair?The things I miss seeing...tsk, tsk. john -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] filter
I would think that's what most people do...read the best, delete the rest. There is too much too keep up with it all. If you don't like the political stuff, leave it alone. -k On 4/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly This group is getting too much drama I am just deleting all the posts now without even reading... I used to enjoy the info... I'll just go to oprah or Dr. Phill if I want the drama! Me -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] freedom of speech
He is admirably witty- and on drugs, at that! ;-) Not making fun John, love the posts, actually. On 4/17/07, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, where ever you got your education, I want to go there. Dan V At 03:24 PM 4/17/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited my response: I wrote that. I appologize if it offended anyone. I'm on drug therapy and alone a lot. i'm sure I had a point or something that went with it, but my appology stands. I wasn't trying to offend anyone, except maybe a few religous hypocrits that aren't on the list. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] freedom of speech At 07:20 PM 4/15/2007 -0700, Dan T said something that elicited my response: I think the excess eggs should be served at communion. Like the caviar of Christ or something. Maybe add a caudacill from Mary false and malicious statement or report about someone Well as Catholics we are suppose to believe that the Host IS the BODY and BLOOD of Christ - kind of gruesome when you think about it. So doesn't it follow that this would be an appropriate use of these soon to be trashed cells? Anyway, the correct definition of Libel is: A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation. Or: a false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person. You left out the last clause. In any event, it doesn't damage anyones reputation. What about hate talk? It certainly isn't that. The following are a few examples of hate talk: 'We ought to send those niggers back to Africa where they came from'. 'All cripples should be shot as all they do is leech off the system.' 'Those God damn Jews killed Jesus and I say they should pay for it'. See the difference? You may not like what was posted to this list and that is your prerogative so just delete it. And toughen up your skin a little - it's a rough world out there ;) Dan V *Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Dan T, If you can find them, where are they? Are they really Hate talk? Are they really slander (actually the correct word is libel)? If so, please give me the legal definition of the two (you can use a free on-line dictionary) and how they relate. I am also a Catholic but I was not offended by anything I read on this topic. Dan V At 08:34 PM 4/13/2007 -0700, Dan T said something that elicited my response: Dan, I can find those items you questioned below and they are particularly offensive to me as a Catholic. Dan T. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What in the Hell are you people talking about! Hate talk? By who? Slander? By who? Remember boys and girls just because someone doesn't agree with you, you can't start calling them names. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. In other words, grow up. Dan V Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't use freedom of speech to justify hate speech. It was completely uncalled for, as were most of his other rants. Angie, I think you were the one that brought up the freedom of speech issue but with that freedom comes responsibility. No one has the right to slander others or their beliefs. A point or opinion can be expressed civilly. Dan T. -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000437. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] What strengthens YOU?
Music Humor On 4/17/07, Tim Syfert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is it that strengthens you to get through rough times and keep on persevering? For me it's been mainly two things: 1. Faith in God 2. Good sense of humor Tim The QUAD LINK http://thequadlink.com -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] God, and Heaven-Hell
we didn't get kicked out of our church, but people sure acted different
towards us. And then I had the whole you are a bad girl for having
premarital sex and that's why you were in an accident comment.
I agree with the whole notion that things happen as an effect of a cause
that was made (like two people deciding to race on the highway) rather than
because it was supposed to happen. I must say that although I wasn't
exactly religious after my accident, I learned a new meaning of what faith
means. Not faith in God but just plain old faith that you can effect your
environment with work, good deeds, bad deeds, etc. also that there are
things that happen that involved us that we can't explain.
The Mystic law of cause and effect can be applied to any situation in the
universe. It makes more sense to me than God and gives me the courage to
want to affect my own environment. It fits in with evolution, but then so
does God if you talk to the right person. I don't think the whole God thing
is a bad idea, I just happen to view my universe in a different way. we all
use whatever works for us. And whatever makes sense.
I can't really say what happened to me after my accident that turned me off
of the church. For my entire life I had gone through the motions and never
really acquired something in my heart that went along with the faith I grew
up in. suddenly, it occurred to me how much of a waste of time all that
stuff was -- doing what other people wanted me to do. And that was my
little awakening after my accident. Then I became quite rebellious,
including exploring other spiritual practices.
On 4/15/07, Angie Novak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After my injury, our church kicked us out. They sent a letter in the mail
saying we were no longer parishioners. Guess they missed our weekly
donation.
-Angie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just a few questions, how did you hear about the thing with Lucifer?
And are you saying faith is just covering all the bases? Have you noticed
not many churches want cripples that don't seem to get any better. I have
gone to several churches where the pastor has looked directly at me and said
god answers the prayers of all true believers. If I don't have a church to
go to on Sundays then where will I get my weekly dosage of guilt?
I must be a true believer or I wouldn't feel guilty about this e mail.
john
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Subject: [QUAD-L] God, and Heaven-Hell
If you live a good life as IF there really IS a God and Heaven or
Hell and die to find out it was not true--YOU LOST NOTHING.BUT IF you
live and deny God and Heaven Or Hell and DIE to find out THERE IS a GOD and
it's All TRUE---{{YOU LOST EVERYTHING.}} But God wants no robots,
that's why he gave Mankind free will and choices. As a matter of fact he
even granted his Angels free willWhen Lucifer Tried to overthrow God, He
took 1/3 of God's angels with him by decieving them to follow him.
Dan H.
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Re: [QUAD-L] Religion and keeping people in line-- what country are you living in?????
I'm not sure which post you are replying to, but I beg to differ. lots of people use religion to keep others in line for one reason or another. Sometimes it's tradition and/or money. and so far, there are two people here who belief may have evidence of that in their lives (I am including myself here). granted, it is people who try to keep other people in line. But you are certainly right -- no one is using anything to keep me in line because that will never happen. ever hear of the Church of the flying spaghetti monster? LOL: http://www.venganza.org/ On 4/15/07, Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * No one is using religion to keep you in line..In America you are free to believe as you desire.. there is even a Satanic church and dozens of other weird cults . You do as you please and no one forces you here in America. Besides If religion keeps people So IN LINE why is everything such a mess financially and Moraly. The largest population on Earth.CHINA hates freedom of religions, because they like strict control over their people -- media and even how they think., same in places like North Korea. Dan H. * -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] After death
LOL Angie! I believe that is what is considered as properly assuming the correct karma. Speaking of extremism, or, life and death with a religious and nonsensical perspective, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g285x4sUKoo I, too will be checking that box no ;-) On 4/14/07, Angie Novak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I had an out of body experience, I don't remember it. I wouldn't doubt it, though. I did die many times. I remember hearing a voice when I was in the ICU asking me, Do you want to stay or go? I don't think I was informed by this voice of what my life would be, (although I do enjoy all that I can every day, despite being trapped in my body and behind my eyes), and I replied, (all this happened in my mind, and I saw nothing), No, my family would miss me too much. This was during a time when I was coding every five minutes, literally. After that, I don't think I was as unstable. Had I known what my life would be, I still would have stayed. My family would have missed me too much, it would have torn them apart. Just as it would have if what happened to me had happened to my sister. Which I am extremely happy that it didn't. She wasn't there, but I'm just saying. I've thought about it many, many times over the years since my injury, and out of all of my family, immediate and extended, I'm glad I'm the one. You have to be tough to be like this, as I'm sure everyone here knows. I don't think any of them could handle it. It would be worse for them, that's why I'm glad it was me, if it was going to happen to any of us. I fully believe there's existence after each life, and that we're reincarnated after a time, and that we get to decide when to come back. I don't believe in the Christian beliefs. Not any more. Had I not been injured, I would have come to that conclusion for myself anyway. I first questioned it when I was seven. I think the voice was from a guide. Not from an angel. I don't buy into angels. I'm looking forward to my next life. And you can be damn sure that I'm requesting, STRONGLY, (if possible), to not have any physical disabilities or life-changing traumas in the next one. I.e. I'll be checking the box under NO next to, spinal cord injury. I don't think I checked the YES box next to that before I was born into this body and life, though. I think somebody lost my paperwork! Here's hoping that person got fired. LMAO! - Angelique Novak -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Cushion for Airline
I just have them put my cushion on the sest before I sit down. -k On 4/4/07, Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi...anyone use a special cushion when flyingparticularly on long flights. Thanks! Paul c5/6 -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] not enough RAM for dragon!
I only have 384 MB and I need 512 MB. Anyone know about how much this is going to cost me? I know we've got some geeks up in here ;-) -k -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] tendon transfer
The doc who did my tendon transfer also put a pin in my thumb and really tightened my index finger so that my thumb would supposedly pinch against the index finger. The pinch never really occurred. Instead the straight thumb just got in the way, the index finger was too curled and the pin broke. Yeah ouch. So I had a surgery to correct that problem and now my index finger is still pretty tight. Not all the way against my hand or anything, but the stitching went up the inside of my finger so there is scar tissue there. The pinch works in a way, but not the way the doc thought it would. I need that thumb to bend. Now I just have a really strong grip and it allows me to grab something with one hand when I bring my wrist back. I was able to open my hand a little more and i lost that and now my hand is a little tighter, but for me it was worth it. I used to use my left hand to shake hands with others because I could open it more but now that index finger gets in the way. Oh well, I can hold a bottle of beer at the neck with no problem now! Like I really need to ;-) On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is or there are.. Tendon transfers, are nothing new. The procedure has been around for a couple of decades, with a goal to restore function to its candidates. Its not something you chose like a loaf of bread. Those wishing, must be evaluated to determine that they are good candidates for the procedure. Goals have to be established too. Most who have had the procedure claim that it has improved their lifestyle and survival skills. W In a message dated 3/21/2007 2:14:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are there any pros or cons regarding tendon transfers? This is Mike, a 2 1/2 yr quad. -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Idiot Test
Gaa! I'm the philiospher, too! I should do it again ;-) On 3/21/07, Bill_J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are a Philosopher! H... You're an idiot because you constantly think about the meaning of life, and why exactly we're all here. You more than likely have thought up a complex explanation, but most people think you're wrong (and you probably are). *Bill age 56 C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Leesburg, FL Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.* - Original Message - *From:* Robert Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Idiot Test You are an Aussie Adventurer! Crikey! You're an idiot because you live to run around, chase crocs and things, and capture them! All the while, you put yourself at risk, and have more than likely suffered through death at least four times. What type of idiot are you? http://home.att.net/%7Eslugbutter/moi/idiotquiz.htm According to the Ministry of Idiotshttp://home.att.net/%7Eslugbutter/moi/ *RollinOn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: What kind of idiot are you? http://home.att.net/~slugbutter/moi/idiotquiz.htmhttp://home.att.net/%7Eslugbutter/moi/idiotquiz.htm Just for fun passing some time. I'm a Philosopher and found that many quads end up with this answer. Mark Jackson RollinOn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: 3/21/2007 7:52 AM Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller attachment: philosopher.jpg
[QUAD-L] shower commode seat
I hope this isn't a repeat of someone else's question. I have a shower/commode chair that used to have a very soft cushy seat. The problem with that one was that the lining would crack and expose the wood underneath. Now Invacare has discontinued that replacement seat with one that is harder. It is too firm, but made so that the cracking problem does not occur, I suppose. Have you guys come across this, and how do you deal with a compromise? I have been duct taping a thick piece of foam, cut in the shape of the seat. Still not as perfect as I would like it to be. I think it is still a little too firm. Plus, I have get someone else to do the duct taping which encourages my tendancy toward procrastination. -k -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Caffeine and protein
I haven't had skin problems, just really disgusting bladder problems. My approach was to start from the bottom up. Vitamins, and cutting out sugar and caffeine, along with other supplements. Boosting the immune system. I eventually, after gradually working on this for a few years, just got used to not eating so much sugar and stuff and I had less to worry about as far as bladder stuff. It sounds like you aren't drinking tons and tons of Pepsi, but the amount you are drinking might make a difference in your health. Maybe just start finding other things to drink, if you want to quit, and do it gradually. The skin does like a healthy body. Maybe you can get your aide to massage you? When I couldn't find an answer I tried everything. As far as protein goes, I wish I knew myself. I have a nutrition book I need to get back into while I start my physical therapy. I'll try to remember to share what I learn from that, but maybe you could google daily proportions or something. It's a start. I think diet is super important and I hate to harp on something, but the naturopath really approaches health from that angle. Oh yeah, FISH OIL! That'some pretty powerful stuff. The refrigerated kind especially. That's my 2 cents ;-) How long ago was your injury, btw? -k On 3/19/07, Dillon Ewa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again, hello, I wanted to ask all of you a question that might help solve my most immediate concern and prime factor keeping me from being more participative, both socially and vocationally. I drink two or three glasses of Pepsi a day and wanted to know if caffeine is so bad for one's skin that it should be eliminated from my diet altogether or just reduced? I believe I drink plenty of water, mostly in the morning and evening hours. Can one drink too much water, maybe? Also, how much protein is appropriate to eat in one day. I take protein drinks and try to keep meat or food with protein regularly in my diet. I just cannot find a solution to my skin problems. Dillon -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] San Diego Area
I had family in Oceanside. I wish I could remember the name of the beach, but there was a public bech there that lent out beach chairs. I think it was the parks department that did that so ask around if you do that. I thought that was so cool. As far as I remember, Oceanside was as wheelchair friendly as any other place I've been. And beautiful...I'm a little jealous ;-) Good luck On 3/18/07, Ken Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking of moving to the San Diego area. Can anyone recommend a wheelchair friendly beach town? How about private nursing service? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] belly
Oh yeah I forgot about that. I use these tight granny panty tummy cinchers by Jockey, I think. They are the kind that go almost up to my boobs if I really pull. They help with blood pressure and keeping it all in ;-) Binders got too cumbersome for me- always digging in. I would go for a corset if I could find one that works for me. I am a tad vain sometimes, I guess. On 3/17/07, LTeasley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh my god! Is there truly such a thing as a properly fitted abdominal Binder? If so how do I get one? Mine digs into my ribs and my waist so bad! Lucinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/17/2007 9:38:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: very true -- i don't mind my stomach at all when i'm laying down or when doing pressure reliefs where i can stretch out and look like i'm actually sitting up straight for a few seconds. i need one of those lace up corsets from back in the day... =jessica = Corsets and properly fitted binders can do wonders in containing those money pouches. But better yet, they can do positive things in aligning the spine and support the back, while sitting in a chair. The operative phrase remains, properly fitted. W -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobilehttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43909/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mailand always stay connectedhttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43909/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mailto friends. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] belly
Thanks for giving us hope, Dana :-) I will see a physical therapist on the 26th to start figuring out an exercise regimine I can do and might stick with without damaging my rotator cuffs. The diet thing is tough, but something I am getting better at as I get older. I want to start incorporating more of this raw food diet stuff. I can't do the whole vegan thing, but those raw food cook books have some great ideas. I get sick of looking at my gut, too! Today though, I looked with my handy little mirror while I was in bed- not so bad! Oh, but are we not different people in bed ;-) Just remember that when your mojo takes a hit, you stud! -k On 3/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know how to get rid of the quad belly... it's ruining my mojo! Hec -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] hello
Hi Rebecca, welcome and don't be shy! ;-) On 3/16/07, rebecca wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello everyone, i would like to introduce myself, my name is rebecca and i am from sydney australia.i am 26 years of age. i suffered a complete spinal cord injury at c2/3 level 6 years ago from a diving accident and are ventilator dependent. i hope to chat to a few of you and also get some advice on certain issues. thanks -- The fish are biting. Get more visitorshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Anybody ever flip backwards off their wheelchair lift??
I certainly learned something from that one ;-) On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kk, That is amazing, somebody was watching over you. I heard of the guy that did that was a para and became a quad. I know a quad, who backed out and the lip was not out and he had a concussion and problems remembering things, but it was OK after time. That would be so terrifying, I would probably always be afraid to back onto my left. I have only gone off the liftt with it not all the way down with a little drop, which was surprising. I go out front ways and come in backwards Dana Yeah my sister had deployed my lift half way. I wheeled backward without looking and cracked my head on the pavement. Really sucked. No stitches, though, just blood. -k On 3/13/07, RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, My paraplegic buddy was trying to clean an accident off his lift and he flipped backwards from the highest position and landed on the back of his head. Its a miracle he didnt break his neck, lol Hes in major pain but only had to get stitches, the ambulance ride was interesting Im sure, made him remember ol times. ron -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller . -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] It's all relative.!!
John, I often need a good healthy dose of rage, seriously. What papers/blogs do you read? Especially those that are disability related? Thx -k p.s. that's not to say that those thoughtless disabled parking pirates don't piss me off royally. On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hate the parking arguement because it takes us away from real issues like, in 2006 I got a 20 some dollar increase in each months check. Only now I'm on plan D and the state of ohio no longer buys gloves. Plan D last year cost me 34 dollars a month and I spent 388 dollars on latex gloves for aids. (Lets be serious, they gotta have them.)So last year I got an increase in SSDI but my cost of living jumped just less than 800 dollars. When I sent these concerns to my representatives they were pleased with how much they had reduced taxes for the rich. The whole parking deal is just to keep you from realizing you're getting violently molested by the politicians who could really care less where you park. 550 dollars isn't a lot of money if you have it, but they cut medicaid and then gave exon/mobile 14 billion. They just had the best year in corporate history and they need 14 billion dollars. So just park on the sidewalk ! and block the doorway. It isn't in the cops jurisdiction. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] It's all relative.!! Most parking lots are considered private property police won't come on the grounds. KK -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com*http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com . -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Poll
According to the deacon at our church at the time- I broke my neck as punishment because I was having premarital sex. In reality though, my boyfriend was racing someone on the highway and lost control of the car. Kaye On 3/13/07, Tim Syfert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trampoline accident, 1973.. Tim *Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: C-5/6 Run in with in a mule deer on a mountain road. Stunt What I've been up to; http://forum.daz3d.com/gallery.php?mode=viewgalleryu=99065 On 3/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would just like to know what caused members of this message board to become quadriplegics or paraplegics? I became a quadriplegic due to an illness that affects the spinal cord (Transverse Myelitis), July 2, 2005 Naomi C-4 quad since July 2, 2005 Transverse Myelitis AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel siteshttp://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097;_ylc=X3oDMTFtNW45amVpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS0wNw--%0Ato find flight and hotel bargains. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Anybody ever flip backwards off their wheelchair lift??
Yeah my sister had deployed my lift half way. I wheeled backward without looking and cracked my head on the pavement. Really sucked. No stitches, though, just blood. -k On 3/13/07, RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, My paraplegic buddy was trying to clean an accident off his lift and he flipped backwards from the highest position and landed on the back of his head. Its a miracle he didnt break his neck, lol Hes in major pain but only had to get stitches, the ambulance ride was interesting Im sure, made him remember ol times. ron -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Burns
Okay I have to take this opportunity to share something with you guys that many others would not understand. I have gotten burned in the same place between my wrist and hand about 3 times with my heating pad. Finally I got one that turns off automatically after 1 hour. Last week I woke up and lifted my head from my heating pad that always sits on my pillow. My ear was numb and stuck to my head. In a moment of half woken paranoia, I thought my ear had melted to the side of my head. I couldn't feel it so I imagined how it must have looked- all skinless and malformed. Then I woke up, sensation came back and I was ok. :D On 3/12/07, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Burns, Burns, and yet another Burn. I got a muffin out of the mic and it was hotter than I thought. I had it on a napkin on the back of my hand. A few hours later I went to rub my face and water was all over. The big blisters popped. They looked to be heeling ok, scabbed up… I had to get a prescription for something else, so I had the doc look at it. He put an antibiotic cream on it, then wrapped it up. But now the cream has soften it up and it's all wet looking. At least he gave me oral antibiotics to take too, just in case it got infected. I should just remember all my other burns I have had over the years, once it's scabbed up, leave it alone… Greg -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Burns
Yeah I also got burned sitting by a camp fire. I reached down to touch my knee and it was mushy from a blister. Ewww! It's so gross to feel something like that...that you can't...feel. It is startling, to say the least. And then the time it takes to heal! On 3/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/12/2007 9:20:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm healing up a few burns on my ankle from sitting too close to my space heater a few weeks ago. it's amazing how we can cook ourselves without even knowing it. *I went to a Halloween party my 2nd yr of sci, it was in a barn and they used a torpedo heater for heat. I was sitting close to it and couldn't feel the heat. To make a long story short, I had to get a skin graft because it was so huge and wouldn't heal. When I had surgery they didn't put me completely t**o sleep. Just enough to relax me and keep my legs from spasms. Talked to them the whole time even while they scraped skin off my other leg. It surely is amazing what we go through without feeling it. * *Before that, I spilled a very hot cup of coffee on my belly. I spent 2 weeks in the burn unit over that one. They sent me home still scraping and wrapping the burns.* *Diane* -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority
That was fu*ing awesome, and part of what this group is for. Cheers to our growth! This forum does great things for me. On 3/3/07, Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool, The English language is easily misunderstood, as words have multiple meanings. Context is everything. No offense taken. Stunt On 3/3/07, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This subject had reopened a denial since my C/5 injury of mine which has helped me do the best I felt I could. Discourse is meant to challenge our beliefs, and this writing assignment succeeded to touch a sensitive nerve I had felt long gone resolved. Oops, a little scratch opened a wound obviously I had not resolved. If anyone was offended I deeply apologize. Thank you forum for allowing something personal to rear its forgotten head to help me to reveal and balance myself for the better of myself here. Chilled Merrill -Original Message- From: Tim Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:13 PM To: Merrill Burghardt; Quadlist Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority ONE DEFINES ONESELF IN MANY WAYS. Ooops sorry didn't mean to shout. But it might be a good idea to take a DEEP breath and chill. Keep things in the contextual meaning. By the numbers we are a minority. A vast majority are not quads. Not everything is worth taking personaly and an open question requires an open mind. Stunt On 2/22/07, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By being in a wheelchair THIS is to define me? I think not. You seem to enroll me and many others into something you know nothing of us except for being in a wheelchair. We is not us. As a quadriplegic, you have no clue what was or not been stripped of. I fail to see the commonality. People might be more alone than they define their groups. Be it race, in a wheelchair, I.Q. or a zillion similar traits, we are still not bonding. My ambulatory is amongst a minority of physical limitations as stairs. Hey, I get a chair which goes up stairs, now what are you going do with me, redefine the minority criteria? As a quadriplegic, who is the spokes person here? If it is a need to bond and separate, joining a club might serve the need to belong better. All encompassing generalizations, especially with people are never right. It took more than a defined minority to bring the ADA into being, it took citizens. And this is how I feel. Merrill -Original Message- From: Tim Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:12 PM To: Nichole Rohling; Quadlist Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION As quadriplegic, we are a minority within the disabled community. A member regardless of any other group we belong(ed) to. It is a minority which binds us together, regardless of race, creed, gender, or monitary class. In a way, we are a minority in which all other social barriers are meaningless. The commonality of our condition strips away the barriers affecting the temporarily able bodied. Stunt On 2/16/07, Nichole Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'M WRITING A PAPER IN ETNIC LITERATURE AND ANSWERING THE QUESTION CAN I RELATE TO A GROUP OF MINORITIES. AT FIRST I BEGAN WRITING NO BUT THEN MY MIND SAID YES I CAN. THPOUGHT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW OTHERS FELT NICKI - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION Yes! You are a member of the handicapped community and part of a minority that has a small lobby in Washington DC. Most minorities are majorities in comparison to us. We still deserve the same rights as do any other minority but it is important that we chose our fights carefully since many people resent loosing the best parking places to us. I have met people that think the ADA went way to far and should be stripped or completely killed. We are blamed for high taxes, run away health care costs and ruining the public school system. Whatever you thought you were before, you are now a liberal, unless you got a huge settlement and now resent paying taxes to support those crippled leeches that are ripping the guts out of our military spending and delaying the construction of another aircraft carrier just to install curb cuts and support medicare. GW Bush wants churches to take over much of the care that is being cut. I went to a Benny Hinn get well or go to hell concert and I must not believe in God the way I'm suppose to
Re: [QUAD-L] Home Again -- Part Two
My payers are definately with you and I'm happy you are okay! A good reminder to listen to our instincts. Please take care with vigilance, food that is good for you and vitamins. my best, -k On 2/26/07, David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi People, This is a short note to tell you the rest of the story that happened to me after getting home from the hospital in early Feb.. If you think there is a problem with your body, never let a Doctor make you change your intuition about it. After getting A+ on all of my yearly tests, I felt the Doctors were still missing something, so I insisted on a second run of tests. I had that incident in Aug., '06 that put me in ICU for an UTI (very uncommon for me), so I wanted to be sure about my feelings. I've been a Quadriplegic 31 years and my intuition was right. They found what they had thought was scar tissue from the of right leg and partial hip removal to be an abscessed pocket of infection. They did surgery through my back near about where the coccyx bone is and cleaned it all out. The Surgeon said if the abscess had burst, it would have spread through my body and I would have most likely have been dead within days. I'm in the process of getting the wound to heal from the inside out, which means a lot of dressing changes and staying off my backside, so I will be reading here, and be here to help answer questions, but not much writing. I'll keep you all updated as things progress, so thanks in advance for your prayers and good wishes. Stay strong! With Love, Dave Kelmer Wichita Falls, TX -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] anyone used one of these wheelchair cartop lifts?
http://www.autochair.co.uk/autochair_operation.htm I really want to get a car if I can. May have to get a new chair. -k
Re: [QUAD-L] Devotees....come on people....
Women don't need problems, we have them already -it's called violence and rape. It's why we have to be carefull. I think any woman who gets the creeps from someone who has a fetish that involves her disability better listen to her instincts and use her best judgement. We don't need to choose from the bottom of the pile. I'm sure there are some nice devotees out there but it is an entirely different matter for women. The chair turns heads and attracts attention. But once that happens, there are fewer women than men who will pursue someone because they think they might be able to take advantage. It's just the way it is whether we are talking about able bodied people or whatever. This is not to attack the above post, it's just the last one I read in this thread. I have have had men who have been extra weirdly friendly who I avoid and only one online who had a fetish. It's nice for someone to be open about that I guess. If you want to go along with that all I can say is be careful. It seems that usually a person might think Yeah he/she is in a chair AND they are cool and I want to get to know them because of something other than the chair. This seems more healthy...no? On 2/21/07, RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Ive been a quad for 9 years and yes Ive had some women come on to me, and yes at least 2 of them were drawn to the chair. I think this is great, I welcome females to talk to me and possibly do more with me. With all the problems a quad has female or male, how could this even be an issue. I say anyone thats worried about a Devotee needs a real problem Ron c7 -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] How You Do It
I have found great people through ads in the paper. We have a great rehab facility in Washington. Physical therapists can be good resources for ideas for this sort of thing. When I was still living off of settlement money I would pay someone for just the basics, so not much housecleaning and such so my place was a pigsty. Now I have dshs and found an agency. They were paying for one person to do bowel care (a nurse) and one to do housecleaning and everything. I trained the woman who was doing the housecleaning and had it supervised throught the state's nurse delegation program, now she helps with everything. It does seem women with children do enjoy the flexibility that the job can bring. There are all kinds of people out there and I hope you find a great match! Please keep us updated and tell us of any snags, as someone here has surely had some similar experience :-) It does require creativity and patience! I always thought it would be great to have someone as a backup, but this isn't always easy. On 2/20/07, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOW DO YOU DO IT? If you do not care to read this in complete, can you share how as a fellow quadriplegic you live? To learn what is possible for myself, I watch and speak to as many quadriplegics how they live, particularly on a low budget paying to get in and out of bed at that. After rehab when I was first injured, the hospital nor I knew what to do with me. My family lived 2,000 miles away in Milwaukee. Moving from California was not at present an option, nor did I want at that time be the prodigal son I was, to move in this way. Fortunate for me, the SCI psychologist refused to allow me be discharged to a nursing home. I am forever thankful to this woman to have given me a standard and the guts to be creative in how I live. I know nursing facilities are necessary to perhaps most people at one time or another, so any person at home in such a facility I mean no disrespect. Contrary, what you have to do, or found, ya have to do it. My solution was to run an ad in the domestic colomn in a newspaper in an area I desired to live. The ad read something like, 38 year old quadriplegic looking to live with caregiver. Offering (at that time $1,300.) A woman with two old enough to work daughters, CNAs themselves were my best choice. As a new C/5 injury I pretty much broke myself in with my new found injury survival ways here. This was working out pretty well. A cousin I had never met started calling me insisting for me to move in with her in a house she recently bought. After two months of persuasiveness, I felt if she wanted me bad enough she could have me. So not involving her in my care outside of meals, could you, would yours, and the sort, I pretty well cut my teeth on hiring, working with, training, and firing attendants. After ten years it was time to move on. Again I ran my ad for someone to adopt me so to speak. Luck again, I moved in with a woman who recently gave birth, and not wanting to return to work was looking for someone just like me. Now after seven years I need to move on again. Long story short, how are other's living? Please share your stories with me direct, or to the list. I am so interested how others have met the challenge, particularly those on their own without money. I guess I am looking for encouragement and creativity. Thank you. Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] devotees
word up. On 2/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only are you 100% right, but I am bothered when I'm critisized for not trying to understand them while they get off not understanding reality or the handicapped community. I understand they are handicapped in the sense that they are mentally ill. A desire to disfigure yourself is not a lifestyle choice, and should be treated in the same niche as those wanting to committ suicide not those with a permanent disability. They are a danger to themselves and others and should be treated as such. They should not be assimilated into the handicapped community as anything other than mentally and socially challenged. Not physically handicapped. What happened to me was the result of a drunk driver and the trauma that I went through was completely different than the relief that some wackjob is looking to achieve through some self mutilation. I needed rehab, they need long term observation in a padded cell on a liquid! diet, not social acceptance. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] devotees Jessica, This isn't anything new. There are hundreds of websites for Devotees, Pretenders and Wannabes. Devotees, are people who are attracted to people with disabilities. Pretenders, are those who pretend to be disabled. Wannabes, are those who have the desire to be disable, sometimes to the extreme of even amputating their own body parts. I agree, that these people hinder our fight to have people with *real *disabilities be seen as equal to the non-disable. Naomi C-4 quad since July 2, 2005 Transverse Myelitis -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com*http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom. -- *Check out the new AOL*http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority
Good point. Our experience is what I think make us a group. Everyone has their own way of framing their own perception of this and deciding where they do or don't belong. Obviously, SOMETHING has brought us to this group, as anyone reading this has not yet unsuscribed :-) I don't know when your paper is due, Nicki, but I just looked up disability studies books at Amazon, and there are a few. I think one that I liked was by Sharon L Snyder. People have degrees in this very subject(s). Another book I read was No Pity, which was pretty good. If the paper is just on what you think, then go for it. We do have the opportunity these days to read up on it since we are gaining understanding of the way social constructs work for or against us. It's deep. On 2/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are a group of individuals brought together by common circumstances. therefor we Are a group of disabled people united for a fight against discrimination. that sole factor makes us a united minority... if we want to see it or not. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
Ghettos? I like the term my Vietman vet friend used when referring to the building we were living in as a low rent storage bin for the elderly and indigent. Occupants were supposed to have some sort of disability. Most were elderly and/or mental. It was a zoo. But seriously, Washington's ghettos are not as bad as others around the country. At least Seattle's. I went through Seattle Housing Authority back over 10 years ago to get help finding an accessible place. The waiting list was maybe 1 1/2 years long. Now I know better. You can get the county to make your apartment reasonably accessible. If you own a home you can get an interest free loan that you pay back when you sell the house. This would not be for a major remodel, though. I know there are disabled people in nursing homes, how they get there I do not know. I'm sure though that Washington is not as bad as many other states. My complaints can only mirror my own experience. I would like to learn more about how it is for others. There is one particular building in Seattle that I avoided and fought to stay out of when going through the housing authority. I would consider it a ghetto. Huge depressing dark cement building for disabled people. I think of this when my friend in Korea describes the place they put disabled people near where he lives. On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And washington state is ranked as a good state when it comes to not forcing handicapped into nursing homes. What do they have, ghettos? john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION sweet. in washington state, you can't bring in more than $2,000/mo. rediculous! On 2/18/07, Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kaye, I just wanted to point out that in many states you can work full time and not lose your health coverage through Medicaid and if you make a lot of money you can even buy-in to Medicaid. I work full time and I'm on Medicaid. Mark Jackson *RollinOn!* *---Original Message---* *From:* kaye allard [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date:* 2/18/2007 2:19:12 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION Please elucidate us on how it pays to be in the minority. Many people on this list have talked about how in some ways their lives have changed for the better after their injury. There are some interesting things that happen after sci that illuminate parts of your life you sort of looked over before. At least for me, it has been an adventure. Being an actual monority- like on a huge college campus- is not easy. When I was in school I got many stares and little conversation. We are minorities in many ways. The most painful one being that many of us are stuck between the economic confines of getting welfare checks and state and/or federal healthcare that keeps us relatively healthy and independant, and needing more money and risking losing all assistance to get a job that has insurance that will not pay for home healthcare. For some this is harder than others because we depend on the home assistance. Marginalized is another word. And yes, being marginalized lumps us with other groups with which we can work on things together and support each other. I think this is the important part of being in a group- our ability to appreciate differences and similarities at the same time. A form of enlightened interdependance, I like to think of it. My friend started a disability studies study group at the University of Washingtom and finally, after 3 years of the administration saying that we don't need a disabilities class or program- a class and a minor in the subject! Yae! Everyone else has a cultural studies program- why not disability? We have a history, culture, etc. And unfortunately, being in the minority, we must contend with the majority view of who we are and expand these views because they do result in public policy and just good old fashioned, everyday bigotry and discrimination. One thing that makes us a minority is dealing with those. There is no short answer for this question, but it is a good one. On 2/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/17/2007 1:42:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question too W. In comparison to whom? Women w/SCI/D are a minority. Amen. Actually, we are all minorities in the eyes of the majority, what ever the category is. Extreme rich is a minority to the very poor. Male population is a minority to the female population. Those is jail are a minority to those not confined. Sometimes, it pays to be in the minority. Can you think of the many different ways
Re: [QUAD-L] Stevia For UTIs
thanks for the stevia info- i've seen the liquid drops, i think i'l try that. I had the powder- boy does that stuff last. It doesn't take much! I didn't know it was so good for you. On 2/17/07, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Urinary Tract Infections: Weather you believe in taking herbs or not they make good tea, are often free, and researched for hundreds of years. I've lost an excellent article on Stevia as the perfect sweetener and for a healthy bladder. A sweater in a tea, along with corn silk is cheap to free. Similar tasting because of same chemistry is the plant Horse Tail. You've seen it because it looks like a horse tail. Grows near everywhere like streams and lakes. The Other Pure Cranberry concentrate, sweetened with Stevia was written up as an effective 3 day plan, 3 times a day drink for chronic UTIs. Apparently the property in cranberries act like Teflon on the bladder wall. The bacteria then clings onto the sweeter than sugar Stevia. Fairy tale, backed by some research, whatever, I have long enjoyed reading about plants and enjoy the reading. By no means do I pretend to know medicine, but if I drink juice or tea daily, why not put centuries of literature into use. In the least it is distracting while feeling miserable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] uti's/mitrofanoff
The acidophilus that is in yogurt is what is good- especially when you're pushing lots of antibiotics. The idea is to replace the bad bacteria with the good bacteria we need to digest and prevent candida (yeast infections) from growing. The problem with yogurt is all the sugar! Sugar just encourages the bad bacteria and nasty yeast infections. You can get the pro-biotics in capsules (in the fridge at the supplement store) that include other cultures besides acidophilus. I never take antibiotics without them. ps pomeganate tea is s good! On 2/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/17/2007 1:18:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had the mitrofinoff 15 years ago this year (wow its been that long since my injury). Those first few years were riddled with infections and lots of incontinence. They have decreased significantly. I went through a lot of different ways to combat all the problems including boosting my immune system and naturopathic stuff- actually going to the naturopath and doing what they told me to do. I don't know exactly why things are better for me now. Maybe my body just needed time to acclimate...? I have not had an infection for over a year and back a few years ago, when I would be symptomatic, nothing would show up on the culture but I would still take the antibiotics to help with the symptoms.. I have lately learned to wait it out when I start having symptoms and it will pass. Now, I don't really do anything. I drink alcohol, coffee (lately) and smoke on occasion. I just moderate it with lots of herbal tea and other fluids with no sugar when I'm done with all the debauchery. Besides cranberry in almost any form, pomegranate is also know to have healing properties. Yogurt too. W -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
Please elucidate us on how it pays to be in the minority. Many people on this list have talked about how in some ways their lives have changed for the better after their injury. There are some interesting things that happen after sci that illuminate parts of your life you sort of looked over before. At least for me, it has been an adventure. Being an actual monority- like on a huge college campus- is not easy. When I was in school I got many stares and little conversation. We are minorities in many ways. The most painful one being that many of us are stuck between the economic confines of getting welfare checks and state and/or federal healthcare that keeps us relatively healthy and independant, and needing more money and risking losing all assistance to get a job that has insurance that will not pay for home healthcare. For some this is harder than others because we depend on the home assistance. Marginalized is another word. And yes, being marginalized lumps us with other groups with which we can work on things together and support each other. I think this is the important part of being in a group- our ability to appreciate differences and similarities at the same time. A form of enlightened interdependance, I like to think of it. My friend started a disability studies study group at the University of Washingtom and finally, after 3 years of the administration saying that we don't need a disabilities class or program- a class and a minor in the subject! Yae! Everyone else has a cultural studies program- why not disability? We have a history, culture, etc. And unfortunately, being in the minority, we must contend with the majority view of who we are and expand these views because they do result in public policy and just good old fashioned, everyday bigotry and discrimination. One thing that makes us a minority is dealing with those. There is no short answer for this question, but it is a good one. On 2/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/17/2007 1:42:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question too W. In comparison to whom? Women w/SCI/D are a minority. Amen. Actually, we are all minorities in the eyes of the majority, what ever the category is. Extreme rich is a minority to the very poor. Male population is a minority to the female population. Those is jail are a minority to those not confined. Sometimes, it pays to be in the minority. Can you think of the many different ways? W -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
sweet. in washington state, you can't bring in more than $2,000/mo. rediculous! On 2/18/07, Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kaye, I just wanted to point out that in many states you can work full time and not lose your health coverage through Medicaid and if you make a lot of money you can even buy-in to Medicaid. I work full time and I'm on Medicaid. Mark Jackson *RollinOn!* *---Original Message---* *From:* kaye allard [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date:* 2/18/2007 2:19:12 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION Please elucidate us on how it pays to be in the minority. Many people on this list have talked about how in some ways their lives have changed for the better after their injury. There are some interesting things that happen after sci that illuminate parts of your life you sort of looked over before. At least for me, it has been an adventure. Being an actual monority- like on a huge college campus- is not easy. When I was in school I got many stares and little conversation. We are minorities in many ways. The most painful one being that many of us are stuck between the economic confines of getting welfare checks and state and/or federal healthcare that keeps us relatively healthy and independant, and needing more money and risking losing all assistance to get a job that has insurance that will not pay for home healthcare. For some this is harder than others because we depend on the home assistance. Marginalized is another word. And yes, being marginalized lumps us with other groups with which we can work on things together and support each other. I think this is the important part of being in a group- our ability to appreciate differences and similarities at the same time. A form of enlightened interdependance, I like to think of it. My friend started a disability studies study group at the University of Washingtom and finally, after 3 years of the administration saying that we don't need a disabilities class or program- a class and a minor in the subject! Yae! Everyone else has a cultural studies program- why not disability? We have a history, culture, etc. And unfortunately, being in the minority, we must contend with the majority view of who we are and expand these views because they do result in public policy and just good old fashioned, everyday bigotry and discrimination. One thing that makes us a minority is dealing with those. There is no short answer for this question, but it is a good one. On 2/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/17/2007 1:42:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My question too W. In comparison to whom? Women w/SCI/D are a minority. Amen. Actually, we are all minorities in the eyes of the majority, what ever the category is. Extreme rich is a minority to the very poor. Male population is a minority to the female population. Those is jail are a minority to those not confined. Sometimes, it pays to be in the minority. Can you think of the many different ways? W -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller [image: FREE Emoticons for your email – by IncrediMail! Click Here!]http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=101009 -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] I totaled my van, anyone know how this works with the modificati...
Everyone is okay, thanks Dan. It is my insurance co that is paying, W. On 1/31/07, Dan Tessiatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to hear you were in an accident. Are you okay? If you want to get a new chair and you think you can justify it as a medical necessity contact a PT or OT to talk about your needs and if there is a medical necessity. Best wishes... Dan T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's insurance company is paying. yours or the other person. W In a message dated 1/31/2007 4:21:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just sent in a bid for the lift, doors, hand controls, lowered floor- everything. Without this, they thought they were going to figure out the value on their own (through an independant company, apparently) and my representative started saying they were going to put the value of all the modified parts (originally about $30k or so) at $2,500. That can't be even close...right? It will cost over $1200 just for hand controls alone. My van itself was $14,000 in 2000 and is now valued about $8,5000. Does anyone know how insurance companies deal with putting a value to handicap modifications? I think my next vehicle will probably be a car untill I can make the payments on a newer minivan. I haven't done it yet, but I have met 2 quads around my level C6-7 or so who did it. They would get in the passenger side of the car, take the wheels off the chair, and pull everything in after them, sliding over to the drivers side. I'd have to get the quad release wheels. What I really need though is just a whole new damn chair and I might try to push for this, but that's really hard. My insurance paid for a new motorized chair a few years ago. I've had my manual since my accident in '92. Obviously, I have a lot on my mind ;-) -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] New Years Resolutions
I think that phone chain idea is great. A friend of the family has been sitting for months waiting for a hip replacement. She called me the other day with a raspy voice from dehydration because she hadn't been drinking. She wanted to limit trips to the bathroom. It was a shock to hear that. She should have been in a hospital, getting adequate food, drink and assistance. I got my mom to call her, my mom called her family, and now she's in the hospital- AND she has a pressure sore. She could have wasted away to nothing if my mom didn't call her family. She's very stubborn AND doesn't have enough support. On 12/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A general act of kindness, once a month, once a week, once a day. Think of the effect on your fellow mankind. Random acts of kindness, can be so rewarding. Can you imagine holding a door open for a TAB, and smiling? Perhaps, a peer counselor. There are always a need. Stuck at home? Start a telephone chain. Once a day. Once a week, you just call and say hi. You call just to make sure the person is ok. It doesn't hurt, and seldom costs. Help out at your local elementary school. Teach a kid to read. Teach a kid to add and subtract. Who knows, ya might be teaching a future President. A Happy New Year, don't have to be prosperous if you are healthy. Best Wishes W In a message dated 12/19/2006 10:06:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to make some good New Year's Resolutions for 2007 and I was wondering what everyone else is planning to do? We all know the standard resolutions such as eating healthy and exercising more but I wanted to see if there were any creative ideas out there. What's new for you in 2007? Hope you have a Happy Holiday and a Healthy New Year! Anne :o) -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] Any resources for Fibromyalgia?
I have a friend who was just diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. Does anyone know of any informational sources or forums like this? I'll do my usual Googling but she needs peer support as well.Thanks.-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Van Help....
DVR bought me a van a few years ago. Thought it would never happen but I got an exceptional counselor.-kOn 10/31/06, t crook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all- I am on the waiver program here in Iowa and have $6000 available for home and vehicle modifications. However- I do not have enough funds to make monthly payments on a vanfor the rest. I was just wondering if any of you have resources for helping people purchase a van. Thanks- Tim C5-C6/18 yrs. post www.whoopiekatjewelry.com www.geocities.com/onemofortom We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] Re: Home Van Help....
That is what they say they do here in Washington, fund modifications. Years ago, I was told by other quads that vans were sometimes funded by DVR. Then DVR told me no. Years after that it was able to funded but at the same time they told me that program was most likely going to be cut. I guess my point is that it seems like it happens arbitrarily...at least in Washington state. I do think I got very lucky!As an aside, just to share: I just found out that COPES (which is a program that sort of supplements DSHS) will offset van lift repairs by paying part of a utility bill. I thought I would give it a shot and asked my social worker. Leave no stone unturned :-) On 10/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kay, I'm sure by now and after reading some of the postings by others how lucky you are. In most states VR will only pay for the mods after the van has been purchased by an individual themselves, providing that the van was sound. W In a message dated 10/31/2006 10:50:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DVR bought me a van a few years ago. Thought it would never happen but I got an exceptional counselor.-k -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Bummed
I recently wanted to see a doc in Seattle at a hospital whose psych dept says they are phasing out all the medicaid patients. Ugly and sad. A few years ago I had to call all over to find a nursing agency that took medicaid. Hopefully you can find one close. I wish you the best of luck. What city are you in? On 10/14/06, LINDA FERRELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I just received a letter yesterday from my Nursing Agency that they are dropping me, plus all Medicaid, Medicaid Waiver Choice Clients. I have 30 days to change services. So it's a bum day! Lindaf -- Polite conversation is rarely either.-Fran Lebowitz
Re: [QUAD-L] Drive vehicle with mouth?
http://depts.washington.edu/chdd/ucedd/ctds_4/wata_4.htmlThat's where I would look here in Washington state. They might know who to get a hold of. -kOn 10/3/06, Les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard of a van using voice control, they were having issues with thebad language part of driving (a car cuts you off, you blurt dumb ass orworse). That was a few years ago. Good luck.Lester - Maryland C4-5 Quad, 17 post.-Original Message-From: Jeremy Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:57 PMTo: quadlistSubject: [QUAD-L] Drive vehicle with mouth? Any way to drive a vehicle by mouth? Just curious.--Jeremy - 23 - FloridaC-3 Quad since 4/12/01OI Type IV since 7/29/82-- Polite conversation is rarely either. -Fran Lebowitz
Re: [QUAD-L] super pubic ?
I am about the same level and have had a mitrofinoff for about 14 years, since the same year I was injured. I love it- I can pee freely and do it everywhere. In the car, dark corners, behind dumpsters, etc. I used to wear a binder and would just fold it down while I cathed. Now I wear these girdle/underwear type things. Same routine. If that's the only prob, I'd say get it done and work out the logistics later. In other words, you will adapt, as usual! Good luck with your decision.-kOn 9/26/06, Julie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C 5-6 female quad here, 11 years post injury. I currently have an indwelling cath. I have had to increase the size of the cath to an 18 french with 15 cc of water. I am wondering if it is time to consider a super pubic. I've herd of the benefits. I have one problem. I have to wear an abdominal binder for blood pressure reasons. Will this interfere with the super pubic? Thanks, julie -- Polite conversation is rarely either.-Fran Lebowitz
Re: [QUAD-L] RE-The sediment in my urine
Ok, this is new and fascinating to me. I have always wondered what the white stuff is composed of. I have always had some sort of sediment off and on and really want to know what it is. I got something called hyper calcemia when I was in the hospital probably 1 month or less after my injury. I puked nonstop. They said it was from calcium leeching into my system. It was treated (with a daily injection that also made me puke) and went away...? It makes sense that this would also happen over time, though. Well hopefully carbonated drinks does not include sparkling water. It's got to be all the crap in soda that can have this effect. But about the sediment being possibly calcium...I so wish I had a lab at home.-kOn 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At a certain point, I believe all of us quads start to decalcify. That is, our bones leech calcium out of our systems. This shows up as that crudy sediment. By the way, Carbonated drinks are documented to accelerrate this propblem in normal people. Most juices are very high in sugar and I try to avoid gaining weight as my quadgut already makes me appear fat. I use an external condom and rarely get a bladder infection.I do still get periods when my urine is high in sediment and the sediment is almost 95% calcium. I haven't been catheterized since 2000. I know thats no help to the ladies. The persistant irrigation with vinegar and sterile water is the smart move. When done daily thereslittle chance to start growing anything serious. It is important to check for cyctitis and stones as well as bladder cancer. I hate going for tests too. I wish you all the very best, john In a message dated 9/16/2006 8:51:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whatever is in your urine, comes from what you eat, drink or how your body is processing.. or not processing. Change some of your habits and see what happens in 7 days. Vinegar in your diet, won't hurt and just might help. W In a message dated 9/16/2006 7:14:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dilllon, I had to have a suprapubic put in about 10 1/2 years ago and have had relatively no problems, until recently. I also suffer from intermittent sediment problems, but now I use a 22 and it does help significantly. There is some smell occasionally, but this is usually when I have drank too many Mountain Dew's (yes I know they're terrible for me). The major problem I have experienced recently is that my stoma seems to have constricted a little over the last year and I am now having some difficulty getting the 22 in. May eventually have to go back down to a 20 until I can have my urologist take a look at what the problem is right now. -- Polite conversation is rarely either.-Fran Lebowitz
Re: [QUAD-L] The sediment in my urine
The best thing that has worked for me is cranberry capsules or gelcaps. You can get them in as much as 1000 mg per cap from a supplement store and take a couple 1000 mg a few times a day. They even have some at some grocery stores. I have also gone to the naturopath (bastyr university in Seattle has sliding scale for low income), a few actually, who have made some awesome tinctures with concentrated herbs that worked. I have been told that vitamin C can irritate the bladder, but that is controvertial and depends on your body of course. It did work for me at one point. I also think that cutting out a lot of sugar and taking a multivitamin has helped. I was told asparagus is supposed to help, as well as blueberries! Also unsweetened cranberry juice which is tolerable when diluted. I like it in the summer with 1/2 water and with ice, but it's expensive. good luck!On 9/13/06, Dillon Ewa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I need your help. For the past two years I have suffered from alot of sediment in my urine. I have tried flushing the Foley, taking tablets of vitamin C, cut out calcium and have drunk lots of water but my problem still persists. My Foley has clogged more times than I can count and I am tired of being soaked with urine. Is there any advice or suggestions any of you could offer me such as diets, drugs or anything that has benefited any of you with similar problems. I would be most appreciative. ThanksDillon -- Polite conversation is rarely either.-Fran Lebowitz
Re: [QUAD-L] 8-2-06
Damn, 2 years? Right on.On 8/7/06, RollinOn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad you're out celebrating life instead of mourning the past. What a great e-mail topost showing how life's not over after sci! Have a great time JT and post more often, it's good to hear about living with sciinstead of dealing with it. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Jason Thurston Date: 08/07/06 19:05:57 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] 8-2-06 I have been waiting to send a message to the group. Last year on August 2 I was reading the 12 pages of advice, most of which I received from the quad list. I don't post very often, but most days I read all of the messages. I learned a lot in the past year, especially not to lose hope. Instead of being sad or withdrawn this year on the second anniversary of my accident, I spent it with my new love. It was her birthday and I told her I had to go to work, even though I usually work from home on Wednesdays. I had her convinced that I wasn't going to do much for her birthday. Instead of going to work I went to a few stores, purchased several presents, balloons, cards, flowers, two cakes, and a bunch of her favorite foods. I decided to make the most of the day and be happy to be alive. Just thought I'd share, since somehow I feel like I know most of you guys. Thank you for being there in your own way. What a great support network. Bye for now JT C6 quad, two years post-, August 2, 2004
[QUAD-L] medical insurance, COBRA...anyone know about this stuff?
I was laid off from a seasonal job at the end of April. I did not, apparently, read the fine print because although I have earned $951.74 in benefits on my medical debit card, I cannot use this money because it has been over 30 days since I was laid off. My option is now to lose the money or pay a COBRA premium for two months of $237.45 each month to use that money. The money from the premium payment will go to my debit account, except for 2% which will go to them for administrative costs. Essentially, I will be paying over half of what I have in that account in order to have access to those funds I already have! Then I must use the rest quickly before I am terminated (I would not pay for another month). Has anyone heard of this craziness? I'm sick over it. Seems like a racket to me. I though I had untill october to use the money I already have in that account.-Kaye
[QUAD-L] anyone been to Cancun?
I am sort of hesitantly going with my family. Anyone have any experiences to share or suggestions of websites to go to for accessibility info?Much appreciated!
Re: [QUAD-L] RE: Who lives where?
I live in Seattle.-Kaye, C-6/7On 6/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bobbie, I am located on Lookout Mountain, in Georgia. I have family in Freehold NJ. Penny
Re: [QUAD-L] Work from home
I worked for NTI this past tax season and last year. I have mixed feelings about working for them. Your hours are based on call volume, so the season lasts about 3 months. If you're on benefits you have to be careful (I wasn't) that you don't go over the amount you're supposed to have. If you do as advised and make your schedule as available for all or most working hours during the day, they will give you large breaks so that you are invariably sitting at home all day (what can you do with two-1 hour breaks that are spaced apart? No time to even leave the house to run an errand) and waiting to clock in. Then if the call volume drops, they ask you, then plead with you to take time off. Of course you don't have to take it off but it's annoying. If you're interested, I would give it a go. I still have about $1000 on a medical debit card I still have to use. That part worked great for me since I have no dental coverage and need to get my teeth fixed. Just don't have any illusions that you are going to be one of their star performers and stay on the whole year. They probably keep less than 25% of the people they hire...but it could happen ;-) -kOn 6/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Did anyone hear of National Telecommuting Institute? I received a letter that appears that this company may be getting referrals from state or federal agencies, and targeting people that are on SSDI SSI. GA
Re: [QUAD-L] Traveling with a disability
When I spent time in California I called a physical therapist at a university hospital someone referred me to who hooked me up with an attendant that worked for a client of his. In Vegas my cousin found someone through the hospital she works for. She also found a raised toilet seat to borrow from the hospital. Other times I have used agancies. Through my experience, I have found that I can find someone to come out to do just BP, but sometimes they must charge for a minimum of four hours. Then when I'm in a pinch I can do it on the bed with a mirror and suppositories...ewww! teehee! Bring paper towels! On 6/13/06, Mack Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there's a CIL where you are headed call them to if they have someone to come do this for you. I've used both NursingAgency and someone's CNA through a contact at a CIL.On Jun 13, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote: Hello Michelle, Your husband obviously realizes that he will be the one to have to help with your bowel routine. That is one reason it is so difficult for us to travel among other things. But when I did/do travel ... we take along everything we use at home and do the same thing in the hotel. That involves taking my bedside commode. I used to be able to go on my side with a chux behind me ... but my body refuses to do that anymore. But that may be an option for you. Essentially, whatever you do at home ... take it on the road! Lori ---Original Message--- From: Michelle Ritter Date: 6/13/2006 1:49:23 PM To: Quad ListServ Subject: [QUAD-L] Traveling with a disability Hi! I'm a C-5 quad and want to start traveling with my husband. My problem is the dreaded BP. My husband does not do this for me... I have a PCA and mom that helps with this. However, we'd love to travel alone. Does anyone have any good solutions about how this could be handled? I'd love to hear from quad womenbut any opinion would be greatly appreciated. __ Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Mack Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://macknezjohnson.com
[QUAD-L] abcesses, sores and such...are these preventable?
I am also praying for you, Stacy!What I'd like to know from you all are- how do these things happen? Is this some freak thing, these deep sores, or are they preventable? It's scary!-kaye
Re: [QUAD-L] Property Tax Exemption
I live in WA...with whom do I apply? -Kaye On 5/22/06, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In WA I got almost half off In AZ you can if you have less than so much money and your house is worth x amount or less. Most states you can if you make less than x amount and your disabled or a senior. Grefg From: Tim Syfert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:16 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Property Tax Exemption I saw a post over on the CARECURE forums by a guy down in Florida who said his state offers property tax exemption to disabled homeowners. I checked my state of NV and we have it but only for Vets darnitall. Just thought I would pass this on for any other homeowners here that may be unaware of this. Tim Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
[QUAD-L] wireless trackball mouse- which one do you use?
I know this question has been asked, sorry! I am getting a laptop and I can't see myself hauling around a corded trackball mouse. The logitech one doesn't look like it will work for me. I like the regular logitech trackball but the wireless one looks like it works only for someone who is using their two fingers to click. Anyway, I remember seeing a couple people post about this. Thanks! Kaye -- In everyone's life, at some time, our inner fire goes out. It is then burst into flame by an encounter with another human being. We should all be thankful for those people who rekindle the inner spirit. -Albert Schweitzer
Re: [QUAD-L] Being ignored
Yes. My especially favorite is when people try so hard not to stare that they look right over and beyond you. I guess that's a different story though than when you're with someone. I prefer to be with my sister because she picks it up right away and we can laugh at them. If you're with someone else, they just immediately pick up on the discomfort. Bastards. On 3/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was out today and got totally ignored, I HATE IT WITH A PASSION!!! In Sears the cashier asked my friend Is that all there is? I had the freaking money in my paw. Then, I was at Atlanta bread company Is there anything else? Yes, I would like to get some coffee. Then in a health food store. Do you guys get this shit too? Bobbie -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] hemerrhoids
I use a preperation H suppository before each scheduled bowel movement. I'm glad someone mentioned the surgery because I may need to do that in the future. Try walking around instead of sitting on your arse all day. Hahaha, only funny in this forum ;-)-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine.-Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] college
Steve is right on, don't give up. CAP is Client Assistance Program and if you aren't getting what you need, they should check it out for you. Btw, DVR doesn't like CAP inquiries :-) I had a condescending counselor (actually 2 of them) who didn't want to do crap for me. One has been fired because she was so bad. I had another one who made sure my tuition was paid and got a van for me. That guy was Johnny on the spot and he wanted things done on time, so if you get someone who's good like that, which you should, make them happy too, by doing what you're supposed to do (I feel bad because I wasn't always on time but I'm the one who suffered the repercussions). Persistence is the key. The money is there for motivated people like you. Good luck! Kaye -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller On 12/16/05, Steve Oldaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke... I don't know where you live, but my experience with GA Vocational Rehab Services came down to the dog who barks loudest gets the most food. Unfortunately, many Vocational Rehab counselors are over tasked and pressured to close cases as quickly as possible. Your counselor should be advocating for your educational arrangements and the necessary funding. If they are encouraging you to make arrangements andpledging to cover the expenses, get it in writing. If he/she is not representing your interests adequately, contact their supervisor and address the issue. If you get nowhere with the supervisor, speak to the supervisor's supervisor. Most if not all states have a CAPs program (can't recall what the acronym represents) that provides ombudsman like services for Vocational Rehab clients who feel they are not receiving the assistance to which they are entitled. It sucks that we must become self advocates in spite of the programs and the associated staff that are supposed to advocate for us. Hang in there and be persistent. It will pay off in the long run. I speak from experience. Vocational Rehab Services paid for my computer programming training including housing, transportation and tuition but not before substantial haggling with Vocational Rehab counselors and managers. This included getting my case transferred from my initial completely incompetent counselor to an experienced counselor who is extremely knowledgeable about SCI since she also has a SCI. Training and education is the ticket to a better life, especially if you have a disability like a SCI. Good luck! Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:13 PMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] college hey guys i'm having some trouble getting financial aid for school. i have recieved $2025 PELL Grant but it doesn't quite cover the tuition and fees. i stillneed another$3000 to pay the dorm fee, food ticket, and books. my only income is social security. some people have told me that i shouldn't have any trouble getting it all paid for. Voc. rehab is beating around the bush on telling mehow everything is going to get paid for; they told me to go ahead andregister for all my classes and put down the $150 deposit for the dormroom myself; then they say to just trust them. so far they have explained nothing and given meno reason to trust them. help please. i need advice. Luke
Re: [QUAD-L] bladder pain--oxybutynin
I take it 3 times a day, 5 mg. On 12/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I take oxybutynin = generic for ditropan i think. Anyway i usually only take it a few times a week or so but this past week I need about 3 each day to help cope with the bladder pain Do any of you have to take that med often as that ? A bit over a month ago i was in hospital far a bad pseudamonas bladder UTI...Gosh i hope that's not trying to return..all this quad problem crap can drive a person insane , I try to grin and bear it ;-) Dan c-6 post 8+ yr. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine.-Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] thanks for the optometrist feedback!
I am reluctant to just go do something that may have some difficulties. So I've put off getting new glasses! I will now go with no fear, thanks, guys! If I have problems I'll go somewhere else. Also, I will not go to the clinic I went to last time, which gave me a hard time because I have medicaid and I broke a pair of glasses and had to get new ones! Some people think that people who are getting stuff for free, (like the glamorous selection of glasses for the medicaid recipient), a person is to be more responsible AND grateful. -k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine.-Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] optometrist visits
I remember the optometrist's chair being awkward to transfer to the last time I went for a visit. How do you all handle the eye doctor? Is there a chain that generally has easy to transfer to seats? Do some of them not require that you transfer to a seat? It's been a while for me. -k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine.-Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Sun
I don't think it's even 50 in Seattle. I'm wearing thigh high stockings, long johns, wool and fleece. I sort of freak out when the weather changes. Maybe someday I'll move. Must be nice!On 11/8/05, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the time in AZ I have to be careful out in the sun. All summer I didn't just sit in the sun and read, I stayed in the shade. But now that it's cooling off, I sit for hours in the sun. It feel so good on my shoulders. Being from Seattle, I feel like I'm missing my chance if I go inside. So my neck and nose are bright red. Once the sun goes down it gets cold, so I try and get as warm as I can... It gets freezing once the sun goes down, As low as 64.. brr Greg -- If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms.
Re: [QUAD-L] Sun
I'm sooo jealous!On 11/8/05, David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's 84F at 2:57 P.M. with highs expected to hit 88F. I'm lovin' it... With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's 83F hear in Texas. I have my A/C running. Luke In a message dated 11/8/2005 2:23:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think it's even 50 in Seattle. I'm wearing thigh high stockings, long johns, wool and fleece. I sort of freak out when the weather changes. Maybe someday I'll move. Must be nice! On 11/8/05, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the time in AZ I have to be careful out in the sun. All summer I didn't just sit in the sun and read, I stayed in the shade. But now that it's cooling off, I sit for hours in the sun. It feel so good on my shoulders. Being from Seattle, I feel like I'm missing my chance if I go inside. So my neck and nose are bright red. Once the sun goes down it gets cold, so I try and get as warm as I can... It gets freezing once the sun goes down, As low as 64.. brr Greg -- If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms.
Re: [QUAD-L] Coughing
I also lean forward.On 11/7/05, Billy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theo,I'm having my annual bronchitis bout now.I use a Devilbis nebulizeraerosol machine which deliversAmbuteral or Proventil directly by mouth. Ialso use the steroid Advair (inhaler) to avoid phlegm buildup in the lungs. Levaquin ABs are taken when it gets real bad.Coughing is problematic for us, cause we only have the diaphragm to pushstuff out. I'm c5, so I get most of it on my own. You can have someone helpby pushing on your diaphragm as you are coughing. This helps me when I'm prone.Careful not to get pneumonia, it's a quad killer.good luckDon't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do!Billy- Original Message -From: Theo Kyparissis [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Scipin-list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:30 AMSubject: [QUAD-L] CoughingI was wondering what you guys do to help you cough, I have a cold which has turned into a nasty cough and as I am unable to cough on my own (I am a C4-5 Quad) I have had 2 sleepless nights so far, with many more to come I am sure. Is there any machine available that can help a quad cough or does anyone have any magic solution to get rid of the cough as quick as possible? Cheers Theo *** Theo Kyparissis Athens, Greece E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +30 210 9317368 ***-- I used to do drugs. I still do drugs. But I used to, too.- Mitch Hedberg
Re: [QUAD-L] Fact or Fiction, You decide.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/p/paypalchain.htm ...and in fact, it is.On 9/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the saying goes,, if it sounds too good to be true,,it usually is. Kathy in Mississippi -- Love is or it ain't. Thin love ain't love at all.-Toni Morrison
Re: [QUAD-L] Katrina timeline
I'm not sure what your point is. If we rely solely on televised news media, we're in trouble. There are so many things happening every day down there and if you don't watch out for the spin, and read various sources of news, it's hard to make heads or tails of it all. If you're talking about an investigation team to see what has gone wrong and what's gone right as far as response goes- we know a lot about this by looking at the timeline. Btw, if I'm missing something, sorry, but I did have one email address from this forum blocked from my account and will miss any of his/her discussion. It hurts me to hear blatant indiference and lack of understanding on such a concerted effort on the behalf of certain people. peace k On 9/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What difference does it make ? they are going to appoint an investigation team. Who needs updates...it's on all of our news day and night and will be for a very long time to come. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Katrina video
My hearts go out to all of you who are in the surrounding affected areas. I live in Seattle, so we're trying to make sense of everything from a long distance! I watched the video and just sat there for a minute while my brain tried to comprehend. kOn 9/8/05, David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi River, That pretty much says it all. Our cable runs TXCN Texas CableNews (txcn.com) and every daysinceKatrina hitthey have been airing 4WWL TV (wwltv.com.) The coverage has been so different than the major news outlets that it's reallyamazing. I guess when you're reporting on your 'hometown' you see things differently than if you're reporting on someone else's 'hometown.' Thanks for the Link. On a brighter note I finally made contact with my friends from Biloxi. While they did have damage to their home, they are all safe. Stay strong. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,This is very serious. If you folks never read or watch another thing regarding this disaster WATCH THIS. http://www.wafb.com/Global/SearchResults.asp?qu=charmaine +nevillex=13y=10 peace,River -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Katrina timeline
Amen. As you can imagine, people who are far away are thinking up ways to help. Over the weekend my aunt saw people selling sack lunches for $5 locally. I just hope that money goes to where it is supposed to. I pretty much stay away from the tv, too. And sorry for reacting to your post as if you were a spectator. You can tell the difference between the people who are getting all their info from the boob tube (and accept it readily) and it sucks to try to have a conversation with those people. Sorry I didn't get your post at first, I'm just sick of people saying let's wait to see what really happened with the response, when we know a lot!On 9/8/05, Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't watch the media at all. It becomes nauseating. Not just abt Katrina but on anything. Reporters act as though their viewing audience are idgits. While there ARE many idgets who can't think for themselves ... there are those who DO NOT NEED the new INTERPRETED BY the media. And that is what reporting the news has come down to anymore. Reporters think people are too stupid to understand facts so they HAVE TO interpret the news for us. This is especially true at election times but the tactic is grossly used on most anything. We have a huge 70-inch TV and hardly ever watch it! We're into reading here ... and not the newspaper. If people are glued to the tv and Katrina so much and feel adamant abt helping sacrifice your cable tv for a few months and send that money to the Red Cross. Lori Michaelson C4/5 complete quad, 25 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: ~LittleQuad~ Date: 09/08/05 12:13:18 To: Quad-list post Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Katrina timeline hear, hear! i told mom, wish they'd report local news..im sorry but people can only take so much... we have several thousand evacuees here in tyler[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What difference does it make ? they are going to appoint an investigation team. Who needs updates...it's on all of our news day and night and will be for a very long time to come. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Rape in the Astrodome?
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hurricane-rumors.htmOn 9/8/05, David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lori, It was the Superdome that these reports were about. I'm sure it matters to the people helping the survivors at the Astrodome! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unsure where but it doesn't matter where ... only that it happened. ---Original Message--- From: Karen Date: 09/07/05 14:20:22 To: 'Lori Michaelson' Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Rape in the Astrodome? Were these rapes at Astrodome or Superdome? I knew there was problem in NO but hadn't heard of problem in Houston . Karen -Original Message-From: Lori Michaelson [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:44 PMTo: Quad Subject: [QUAD-L] Rape in the Astrodome? Yesterday on Oprah ... it was all about Katrina. I only watched the first 5 minutes but the Chief of Police was saying his partner (or colleague) committed suicide over this. BUT FAR WORSE was some guy (or policeman) was saying that 3-yr-old babies were being raped in the Astrodome and other atrocities. THAT made the guy even turn from the camera as he couldn't talk of what he'd witnessed in there. It takes a tragedy of this proportion to bring out the sickos to TAKE ADVANTAGE of the situation by acting on the pedophilic behavior??? Jesus! And Oprah is a billionaire several times over ... I wonder how much 'help' she directly offered other than being filmed and crying over it? Oprah was shocked at the rape stories as was I. Lori Michaelson C4/5 complete quad, 25 years post Tucson, AZ -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] stem cells, ethics, and greed
I have to agree with your points and thank you for shedding light on the stem cell stuff. I, too am sad.On 8/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been reading a lot about the stem cell arguments. I have tried to stay open minded and not jump to conclusions. I was checking up some back grounds on positions regarding Embryonic Stem Cell research and ran into some interesting facts. Tommy Thompson helped to design the presidents policy on ES cells. He is a former governor of Wisconsin. University of Wisconson was the place where ES cell lines were first established in 1998. They were the first to patent the lines and processes to establish those lines. Tommy Thompson is a little more than an alumni of UW. The way the presidents policy works is by requiring other labs to use existing stem cell lines which the University of Wisconsin has a near monopoly on. The ethical argument against ES cell research has nothing to do with anyone's beliefs. It is just greed. The government is using the religious right like a cheap hand puppet. This is about protecting UW 's patent. The ethical question that the country is faced with is how do we get rid of such immoral and unethical people as this administration. We are being milked like some stupid cow. Our money is going into the pockets of every friend GWB has ever had. He is killing American soldiers. He has elderly people going to Canada to get affordable meds. We are sending money overseas for oil faster than we can earn it. I AM SAD! By the way, there are no uncontaminated ES cell lines. Total federal spending on ES cell research to date, just under 10 million dollars. The energy bill passed by congress has a provision to build a 250 million dollar bridge to an island where fewer than 50 people live. The words ethics, morality, and Washington DC should never occur in the same sentence. john -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
Re: [QUAD-L] Spank Therapy- longest time in wheelchairs/sores
I didn't know there was a name for that.On 8/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If your butt in endangered, consider spank therapy.It improves the circulation in that area, increases sensation and promotes the toughening of the muscles and skin in that general area.Besides, its fun!WIn a message dated 8/2/05 6:00:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: to the ole-timers on the list... i was wondering how long before your firstsore (if any) and are we destined for butt sores in just a matter of time.may sound like a stupid question but i'm curious as to can they actually beavoided.diane -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] in response to the guy whose wife cheated on him and stuff...
I have deleted the original request for input on quaddom, and people's strange ways. Un/fortunately, whichever way you look at it, we have been put in quite the observance deck when it comes to watching people and how they respond to a huge phenomena like a spinal cord injury. Not that we're stuck in observation. We are dealing with a rollercoaster inside of ourselves and watching the circus outside. I was injured 13 years ago, when I was 16. My boyfriend was racing someone while I was asleep in the passenger's seat. And well, you know, lots of blood and broken stuff. He died 5 days later. Then I went in for rehab for three months. I was defensive of him because he was dead and my parents hated him and I figured he probably wouldn't have been proud of what happened to me. I was also defensive of my morality or whatever because the incident occurred while I was being dropped of from having snuck out of the house to spent the night with him (a guy 2 years older, for shame!). And my huge family is Catholic on both sides. People at church were whispering. Then I found out my boyfriend had been sleeping with my arch enemy. Ouch! Then the deacon at our church says to a close friend that the accident happened because I was having premarital sex. Huh. After all that happened that's one thing that really stuck with me for obvious reasons, but I'll point them out. If there's a God, I don't think God punishes people. Otherwise everyone in my confirmation class would also have been struck down. What the hell does an accident have to do with morality? And someone else's, at that. I didn't believe that crap for a nanosecond. That was such an injust thought, that I could have been to blame for such a horrific thing. I went back to school and I had new friends because some people were comfortable being with me, a couple really stuck by me, and the others just got weird. But human nature being as it is, I guess I can't exactly blame them for not knowing what to do. Then I go to college, meet cool people, experiment with anything I could, and learn more about how to deal with my body and other people. Now, I look at my life and feel like I'm watching a movie sometimes. I mean, the things people do and say, the way everything has turned out, the things I've done and said...I just shake my head and laugh. I am sometimes flabbergasted when I think about the relationships that have developed from having to have someone help with my care. I mean, who in their right mind would want to be my friend after being so up close and personal with my shit? It happens. And although my physical state has been a magnet for some serious freaks, I've made some beautiful friendships. I mean, f*%k, I've even broken a couple hearts (unintentionally, I'm really nice). And soon after my injury I thought I would never have sex or a relationship again. I wasn't interested and was so sure no one else was. So much life has happened since then. The same kind of stuff that happens to other people, and then there's this whole other dimention we have to deal with. It's just weird. I'm not sure I have a point other than encouragement. You know, perseverance and open mindedness, that kind of thing. Deep breaths. Humor. Find out what you want to do and don't let people rent space in your head. The drug and alcohol thing doesn't really help long term, but you know this. Those pain pills will getchya! I don't know what you're into but when I was smoking a lot of pot and eating a lot it was difficult to figure out what was going on with my body. And pills and alcohol just help me be depressed and constipated and stuck mentally. Don't hang out with people that are screwed up and thus good company (the whole misery loves company trap). And don't be a captive audience for too much of people's crap. Actually, that's what I have to still tell myself! Btw, I'm not saying all this because my life is cake right now. It ebbs and flows. You'll see that many people have it worse off than you do and many of them are able bodied. Keep your head up, bro! Hugs, Kaye-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] designing delusions...
Turnaround space in a bathroom. Grab bars aren't enough for me. In fact, I don't even use them. But I need to get in, turn around and close the door for Christ's sake. KnowwhatImean?-k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra pubic, etc...
I hope I'm doing this right! I've been injured for 13 years, C6. Six months or so after my injury I had a procedure called mitrofanoff where the surgeon used my appendix to make a tunnel that goes from my belly button to my bladder. So I cath via my navel. Less chance for bacteria to be introduced, being that it's away from the vaginal area and all. I can do it anywhere so long as I have a catheter, empty bottle and betadine swabs. I have had my share of Utis and have minimized reoccurance (and symptoms which are enough without having the actual infection) by sticking to sterile catheters drinking lots of water and stuff and staying away from caffeine and taking cranberry capsules. That's my experience.-k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
[QUAD-L] Thanks for the warm welcome!
I live in Seattle and am lucky enough to have found a wonderful woman who lives only 3 houses away who helps with my care. Thanks for the link, going to check it out now...-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
