RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 saloon needing new home

2023-07-25 Thread susanandmartin
Not that I’m in a position to take it on, but…… Is it a saloon or a 2+2?
Martin

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From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 25 July 2023 09:12
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 saloon needing new home

Hi Ken
Can you let me know the registration of your car so I can check to see if your 
car is on the clubs list of known cars.
Sent you a email a few days back but presume you didn’t get the email.
My Email is
quantumhistor...@btinternet.com

if you don’t want the details of the car in the public domain.

Good luck with your sale as red is by far the best colour that suits the 
quantum saloon & such as shame you are having to let it go.
I know how it feels as I had  to let my quantum 2+2 a few years ago & regretted 
it for years after.

Paul 

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From: Ken Needham
Sent: 24 July 2023 16:12
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 saloon needing new home

Hi Darren,
I'm in Reading.  A scrappy has offered £600
but I don't want it to be scrapped. If it may be of interest give me a call. 
07535656507

regards
Ken


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of Darren Siepka 
Sent: 17 July 2023 15:50
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 saloon needing new home 
 
Where abouts are you located? 
Any idea what sort of figure you might be after?

Darren 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023, 16:41 Ken Needham,  wrote:
I have a Red 2+2 saloon That really needs a new home and TLC. 
I was using the car as daily transport up to when Covid hit.
Coincident with retirement I put the car on SORN as there is something needing 
attention on the clutch.
It has an XR3i engine fitted with standard Ford injection ECU, 5 speed box and 
14 inch Escort wheels with very good Uniroyal rain tyres all round.
The car is not pretty and has a high mileage.
Covid got me early on and after effects are still with me so I can't see me 
able to revive the car in the near future. 
I have many spares, original worn CVH engine, Refurbished gearbox internals 
plus a complete gearbox, many light lens and new rear axel support arms. Set of 
5 13" wheels

Is this something someone may be interested in?

Best regards
Ken Needham
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: ULEZ compliant?

2023-07-17 Thread susanandmartin
My understanding is that as long as the vehicle hasn’t been altered in the last 
30 years, that it qualifies for MOT exemption. There is also (IIRC) a special 
case for classics having a new monocoque  or chassis as a manufacturer’s part 
replacement for the original. Lots of different sections in the ‘rules’ which, 
as always, seem to be applied in different ways by DVLA.
Martin Scott 

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From: Ken Needham
Sent: 17 July 2023 16:09
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: ULEZ compliant?

I am currently going through a DVLA issue that sort of relates to the point you 
are raising. I recently took my 1969 Lotus for an MOT  but the garage that has 
been MoTing the car for over 30 years now tells me that it failed on emissions. 
Due to a "Chassis" change in '78 the DVLA insisted it be re registered so it 
now has a T plate. The V5 does state "first registered as 1978 but also 
contains a note saying it was "first used in 1969"
The document that the MoT Tester is presented with simply states "First 
Registered date"
as 1978 so he tested it as a "78 car.
I see that the MoT Manual tabulates the emissions requirements as to when the 
vehicle was "first used" but pointing this out to the tester did not change his 
mind.
I have complained to the DVLA and await full outcome.
The vehicle VIN plate seems to be the item to settle any argument but the 
administration path is arduous and requires a certificate from the manufacturer 
showing when the vehicle was made based on the VIN.
Another gotchya is the need for an Mot  for vehicles over 40 years old. Kit 
cars threw a spanner in this aspect resulting in the DVLA coming out with a 
points scheme. To be listed as an Historic vehicle the vehicle must be made up 
of mainly original components. Any variation alters the points status and may 
subsequently require the vehicle to be MoTed. This is a very messy area and can 
result in very complex arguments 

Quantum 2+2 saloon  Q plate!
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:49:08 AM UTC+1 susanandmartin wrote:
Planning a trip to London in a modern tin box, we checked to see if the car is 
ULEZ compliant (no real surprise that it is)…. Just being curious I entered the 
Quantum registration number to find it was also compliant! This is a huge 
surprise, as it is a 1987 donor with a CVH engine and E-prefix registration 
number (albeit V5 says ‘first registered 2009’ when it was SVA’d). It would be 
interesting to find if other Quantums get the same result 
 
Check your vehicle (tfl.gov.uk)
Martin Scott
 
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[Quantum Owners] A surprise re Newark Festival!

2023-06-26 Thread susanandmartin
I telephoned Grosvenor Exhibitions today to pre-book my ticket for Newark 2023. 
Unlike last year, there is no charge for kit car drivers to enter or camp for 
the duration…. 
I expect a bigger attendance of folk ‘staying over’ for the weekend – or maybe 
not because there is no mention of this in their adverts.
Martin Scott

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RE: [Quantum Owners] ULEZ compliant?

2023-05-03 Thread susanandmartin
I believe it’s not automatic if over 40, and only free if you ‘register’ it as 
such. My Rickman (free tax registered) doesn’t comply, but I guess I could be 
it if I wanted to.
Martin 

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From: Darren Siepka
Sent: 03 May 2023 11:32
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] ULEZ compliant?

No luck with my saloon , it's on a B plate (reg85 ?) I wonder if it's due to it 
being pre sva/iva?
My 2+2 won't check as it says it's sorned, but that would be free as it is over 
40 and tax exempt.

Darren 

On Wed, 3 May 2023, 10:49 susanandmartin, 
 wrote:
Planning a trip to London in a modern tin box, we checked to see if the car is 
ULEZ compliant (no real surprise that it is)…. Just being curious I entered the 
Quantum registration number to find it was also compliant! This is a huge 
surprise, as it is a 1987 donor with a CVH engine and E-prefix registration 
number (albeit V5 says ‘first registered 2009’ when it was SVA’d). It would be 
interesting to find if other Quantums get the same result 
 
Check your vehicle (tfl.gov.uk)
Martin Scott
 
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[Quantum Owners] ULEZ compliant?

2023-05-03 Thread susanandmartin
Planning a trip to London in a modern tin box, we checked to see if the car is 
ULEZ compliant (no real surprise that it is)…. Just being curious I entered the 
Quantum registration number to find it was also compliant! This is a huge 
surprise, as it is a 1987 donor with a CVH engine and E-prefix registration 
number (albeit V5 says ‘first registered 2009’ when it was SVA’d). It would be 
interesting to find if other Quantums get the same result 

 Check your vehicle (tfl.gov.uk)
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Radiator

2023-04-22 Thread susanandmartin
Judging from the retail price of an aluminium alloy rad, I suspect a 2nd-hand 
one would cost as much or more than a new standard one.
Martin Scott

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From: Mick L
Sent: 22 April 2023 09:18
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Radiator

Does anyone have a used alloy radiator?

You would cringe at how much money I've spent on this saloon now so we're 
struggling to afford a radiator. 

I feel very let down by the seller as it's taken all our spare cash and more.


From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: 21 April 2023 12:14
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Radiator 
 
For the radiator the one we had on the car when it arrived was very much a case 
of very few fins left and looked ok ish from engine bay but other side it was 
clear it had been leaking for quite some time and well passed its best.
We got a alloy uprated radiator from Airtec which needed a few adjustments to 
how it was mounted.
Original was fastened on from the engine bay side where the thicker airtec was 
too close to the downpipes so had to be mounted from within the nose section.
Easy to do and can still be removed without taking the nose off.
 
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From: Mick L
Sent: 21 April 2023 11:23
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Radiator
 
Our radiator is missing alot of fins.Are they standard fiesta xr2?
 
May aswell do it while the engines out.
 
Thanks Again
Mick
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Radiator

2023-04-21 Thread susanandmartin
As I understand it there are 2 ‘types’ of Fiesta mk2 XR2 radiators – one with 
copper end tanks and one with plastic end tanks. Both will fit with respect to 
the hoses, but (from memory) there is a small difference on the mounting holes 
which may need altering on the body (an easy fix)
Martin Scott  

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 21 April 2023 11:31
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Radiator

If it’s a Mk2 Fiesta engine then it’s probably Mk2 Fiesta but if it’s got a 
Diesel or Zetec it could be Mk3 Fiesta.
 
Jim
 
 
From: Mick L 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 11:23 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Radiator
 
Our radiator is missing alot of fins.Are they standard fiesta xr2?
 
May aswell do it while the engines out.
 
Thanks Again
Mick
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine removal on saloon with Cvh

2023-04-20 Thread susanandmartin
Welcome to the World of Quantum….. 
Whilst you’re doing the job (apologies if you already know) it’s worth 
replacing all the fuel hoses with ethanol proof hose – I’d recommend (having 
searched a lot) that Car builder Solutions is the preferred supplier.
8mm and 6mm I/D are probably the sizes needed (mine are).
Martin Scott
  
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From: Mick L
Sent: 20 April 2023 22:15
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Engine removal on saloon with Cvh

Hello again everyone.

I got the saloon out on the road for the first time today since it broke down 
on purchase with a horrendous fuel leak. 

Aswell as driving poorly and feeling vague (whole suspension to overhaul on the 
front I suspect  and a horrid exhaust to subframe rattle from old engine mounts 
maybe on rear ?)

It seems she has a  oil leak too. The engine is a 1600 Cvh bored out to 1818 
apparently. Leaking from the box end and dripping quite badly so it's engine 
out im told as easiest route to do it.

Any tips of pointers beyond the little bit of advice I've had off Andy already ?

2 front bolts. 
2 rear bolts through floor inside cabin .
I bolt through o/s wheel arch and top bolt on Engine support...
Plus remove all other items and then drop engine and gearbox out in one from 
underneath.

I just want her sorted now as I've got this week coming to be finished in my 
friends unit and that's a painted car too k

Thanks
Mick
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Wheel and Tyre fitment 15 " 7 wheels and 14s... and Hello :)

2023-04-20 Thread susanandmartin
I don’t know the answer to this (maybe I should as I have a saloon). Mine is 
running 185/55 x 14, I can’t recall the offset. On the Rear you need to be 
aware of how close the tyres are to the trailing arms, as well as inner arches. 
At the front the steering rack is either a standard or XR2. Some folk state 
(incorrectly) that the XR2 rack is a ‘quick’ rack ie higher ratio than 
standard, this is not the case as both racks have the same ratio! The confusion 
is that the XR2 rack is less turns lock to lock (numbers in Haynes manual?) , 
and is because the rack in the XR2 is restricted using plastic inserts. I have 
verified the same ratio with both racks ‘on the bench’. Long and short (no pun 
intended) of it is that if you have an XR2 rack there is less likelihood of the 
tyres rubbing bodywork when turned.
Martin Scott

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From: Mick L
Sent: 20 April 2023 21:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Wheel and Tyre fitment 15 " 7 wheels and 14s... and 
Hello :)

We have recently purchased a saloon and I planned to turn her around in a 
couple of weeks to use daily after been laid off.Myself and my partner have 
always wanted one. So hello everyone.

 It's turned into a whole lot of work I was not expecting sadly and I'm already 
a week in and the engines out tomorrow so not any closer to prepping for paint 
:(

Onwards and upwards :)

One of the simpler issues is the wheels. She is currently fitted with 14s 6 
wide Et20. 185 60 front and 195 rear I believe. 

They look lovely but do catch the rear arch around 4/5 and 7/8 o clock 
positions. My question is...Is this simply down the the rears been 195 or is it 
because the offset of these wheels is incorrect as they do come out the arch.

I have the opportunity to buy a set of wheels that are 15" 7 wide and et35 so 
ford offset I believe. Is there a universe where these wheels would fit without 
rubbing with 195 45 15s?

 If so I would sell ours and get them instead.

Thanks 
Mick and Giuliana 


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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

2023-02-17 Thread susanandmartin
Hi Chris,
Did you have success with finding a clutch kit?
Martin Scott

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow.

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

Thanks Martin and Darren

I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I 
first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off 
the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from 
production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. 

Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can 
assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a 
compatible substitute. 

I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they 
were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong.

Chris



From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of susanandmartin
Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older 
part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t 
expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I 
think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar 
magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well 
as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they 
delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of 
wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the 
cylinder head once I’d removed it 
Martin Scott

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue


I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover 
plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the 
original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a 
replacement. 

Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the 
clutch.

If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a 
replacement for the following?

The friction plate is marked

Motorcraft
90 AB 7550 CA
LOW LIFT
LUK

Thanks in advance

Chris Fairlie
Q2-001

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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

2023-01-22 Thread susanandmartin
Hi Chris,
I was going to suggest the clutch release can be improved, as Dave has said it 
won’t help the judder. There is a manual pedal which replaced the automatic 
adjustment (same as Fiesta) previously used on the Escort – I don’t know if 
Ford also carried it onto the Fiesta, but there was clearly a problem with the 
Escort. Anyway, the pedal is a direct replacement for the one on the Fiesta, 
and can be used with the 55mm quadrant you may already have, although the 
quadrant has to be modified. It has a manual adjustment, so not relying on the 
unreliable? Ratchet. I have the parts and will have a go at fitting them on my 
saloon, as the clutch cable movement sometimes works ok but clearly isn’t 
always holding the correct length.
Martin Scott 

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 22 January 2023 10:03
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

Remember the clutch cover and the clutch release bearing need to me matched, 
either low lift or normal, you can’t use a low lift cover plate with a normal 
release bearing or visa versa.
 
Used as a pair they should be interchangeable.
 
Jim
 
 
From: Dave English 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 9:41 AM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
 
Doesn't help with the juddering problem, which, as was mentioned earlier, is 
just new cover/old plate and may improve with use, but my early 2+2 (Q2009) had 
the same problem with not enough movement on the clutch. Modifying the plastic 
clutch quadrant at the pedal helped but later I found a standard Ford clutch 
quadrant that did the job. Here's the details:        
55mm Granada Mk2 / Escort Mk3 (81-86)
   Ford P/N: 78GB7L583AC

With this a standard friction plate will work and you won't need the low lift 
one.

Regards
Dave English
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 08:42:57 UTC Chris Fairlie wrote:
Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow.
 
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Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
 
Thanks Martin and Darren
 
I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I 
first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off 
the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from 
production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. 
 
Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can 
assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a 
compatible substitute. 
 
I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they 
were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong.
 
Chris
 
 
 
From: quantu...@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of susanandmartin
Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
 
Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older 
part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t 
expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I 
think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar 
magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well 
as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they 
delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of 
wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the 
cylinder head once I’d removed it 
Martin Scott
 
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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
 
 
I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover 
plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the 
original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a 
replacement. 
 
Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the 
clutch.
 
If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a 
replacement for the following?
 
The friction plate is marked
 
Motorcraft
90 AB 7550 CA
LOW LIFT
LUK
 
Thanks in advance
 
Chris Fairlie
Q2-001
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

2023-01-21 Thread susanandmartin
Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older 
part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t 
expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I 
think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar 
magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well 
as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they 
delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of 
wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the 
cylinder head once I’d removed it 
Martin Scott

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue


I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover 
plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the 
original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a 
replacement. 

Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the 
clutch.

If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a 
replacement for the following?

The friction plate is marked

Motorcraft
90 AB 7550 CA
LOW LIFT
LUK

Thanks in advance

Chris Fairlie
Q2-001

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RE: [Quantum Owners] H4 electrics - inertia switch

2022-09-23 Thread susanandmartin
As Steve said, near the door (A) pillar is a common place. In a Mondeo (company 
car) a work colleague had a flat tyre and changed it, then the vehicle wouldn’t 
start – you can imagine he was pretty exasperated. It turned out the inertia 
switch was in the boot near where he dropped the punctured tyre/wheel!
Martin Scott 

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Sent: 23 September 2022 13:41
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 electrics - inertia switch

Julian,
Not sure about a standard location, but I think the wiring would naturally 
position this in the passenger foot well area. Mine was attached to the chassis 
door pillar in the passenger foot well.
Regards,
Steve
On 23/09/2022 13:38, jul...@cityaudioservices.com wrote:
Hi
My H4 cut out unexpectedly at the MoT garage after being driven into the brake 
test equipment which involved the car being grounded! Looking at the circuit 
diagram there are several potential reasons why this happened, most of which I 
know how to diagnose and where to look. But one possible potential problem is 
the impact sensor which is shown in the Haynes manual.
Does anyone know if these are usually refitted in an H4 and if so is there a 
'standard' location? It might help me locate it without having to dismantle the 
entire vehicle. If anyone has a photo of the actual unit I'm looking for, that 
would also help.
Thanks
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

2022-09-15 Thread susanandmartin
John,
May I ask where a custom seal can be sourced – that’s useful info for many a 
kit or classic builder!
Martin

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From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk
Sent: 15 September 2022 20:08
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

@Martin
Oh yes LOL misunderstood you there!.
I am sure you are right in that somewhere out there is the right replacement 
seal 
Problem is finding which donor(s) it comes from because no parts listings I 
have found specify the  seal dimensions you required to determine suitability.

Anyway my reproduction seal is now on its way so to me so hopefully problem 
will be solved :-)
 
John


On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 16:11:04 UTC+1 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
I was thinking of tank seal/grommet, not fuel tank 
Martin
 
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From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk
Sent: 15 September 2022 15:16
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
@Jim
Thanks - I did search the various Fords parts catalogs before I got the seals 
to try. As you say only 2 different types are ever listed (which are the ones I 
got).
But the later seal is definitely not correct fit in my tank aperture. I believe 
the original donor for my car was pre 86 XR2  - that fits with my metal filler 
pipe (not sleeved).
It is is possible I guess that tank is an aftermarket item and was supplied 
with seal to fit non standard aperture. Tank is heavily painted now so any 
codes etc. are obscured - a camera inside might find something if it was 
stamped on _ might try later.
 
@Martin
I think it unlikely to find any other suitable donor tanks given the tight fit 
of Fiesta tank. Probably easier to get an alloy tank custom made.
 
John
 
 
On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 14:25:04 UTC+1 Jim Hearne wrote:
Looking on the Ford parts catalogue. 

The 32 litre side sender tank was used on Mk1 XR2 from 1.10.1981, to 
31.08.1983 and non Mk1 and Mk2 Fiestas until 1986 
The Finis code for this seal is 1492183 

The 40 litre top sender tank was used on Mk1 XR2 from 31.08.1983 and all Mk2 
XR2, and non XR2 Mk2 Fiestas after 1986 , the seal for this tank is Finis 
code 1549720 

These are the only 2 seals listed. 


It looks like there were at least 3 different filler pipes, a metal one for 
the 34L tank, a metal one for the 40L tank on pre 1986 cars and the plastic 
one for the 40L tank on all the later cars. 

You can see all the details on a online version of the Ford 

https://ford.catalogs-parts.com/#{client:1;page:part;lang:en;category:car;catalog:4;param:no;group:0;groupsubgroup:1518;subgroup:15140;subsubgroup:65647}#13
 

You might need to join those lines together. 

Jim 



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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:02 PM 
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal 

Several folks have stated MK1 & MK2 filler neck seals are the same but from 
what I have found this is not always the case. 
One complete tank & filler pipe I have is an earlier side mounted sender 
type - the seal on that one takes Ford mm metal filler pipe. 
The other tank I have in saloon is a later top mounted sender type - the 
seal on that one also takes a 50mm filler pipe. 
However the aperture diameter on these tanks where filler seal fits is 
completely different - the later tank is much bigger. 
So far I have found and tried 2 different Fiesta seals listed by suppliers. 
The first one supplied would be the correct one for the early type tank. 
The second one supplied is bigger OD but is not correct for my later tank 
(it takes a pipe approx 55mm diameter but fits in a smaller diameter tank 
aperture than aperture in my tank) . I think this type is for tanks using 
later plastic filler pipe 
So there are at least 2 types of standard Fiesta tank seal and so far I have 
not managed to find a seal which fits my later tank aperture - this implies 
my later tank is either non standard or there was at least one other type of 
seal used at some point in production. 
My old seal is rock hard but otherwise decent condition so I hope to get a 
reproduction made using it as template. If that fails it looks like I would 
need to change tank and modify filler to a setup for which seals are 
available ;-( 
John 
. 





On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 10:32:25 UTC+1 Chris G wrote: 

When I changed mine I discovered the seals for MK1 and MK2 are the same part 
but with different part numbers. 
My filler neck was made wider with a short length of metal tube where it 
goes into the tank. Then the filler neck went inside with a short section of 
flexible hose attached. 

Chris G 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:40 PM 
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal 

On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters) 
on my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as 

RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

2022-09-15 Thread susanandmartin
I was thinking of tank seal/grommet, not fuel tank 
Martin

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To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

@Jim
Thanks - I did search the various Fords parts catalogs before I got the seals 
to try. As you say only 2 different types are ever listed (which are the ones I 
got).
But the later seal is definitely not correct fit in my tank aperture. I believe 
the original donor for my car was pre 86 XR2  - that fits with my metal filler 
pipe (not sleeved).
It is is possible I guess that tank is an aftermarket item and was supplied 
with seal to fit non standard aperture. Tank is heavily painted now so any 
codes etc. are obscured - a camera inside might find something if it was 
stamped on _ might try later.

@Martin
I think it unlikely to find any other suitable donor tanks given the tight fit 
of Fiesta tank. Probably easier to get an alloy tank custom made.

John

 
On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 14:25:04 UTC+1 Jim Hearne wrote:
Looking on the Ford parts catalogue. 

The 32 litre side sender tank was used on Mk1 XR2 from 1.10.1981, to 
31.08.1983 and non Mk1 and Mk2 Fiestas until 1986 
The Finis code for this seal is 1492183 

The 40 litre top sender tank was used on Mk1 XR2 from 31.08.1983 and all Mk2 
XR2, and non XR2 Mk2 Fiestas after 1986 , the seal for this tank is Finis 
code 1549720 

These are the only 2 seals listed. 


It looks like there were at least 3 different filler pipes, a metal one for 
the 34L tank, a metal one for the 40L tank on pre 1986 cars and the plastic 
one for the 40L tank on all the later cars. 

You can see all the details on a online version of the Ford 

https://ford.catalogs-parts.com/#{client:1;page:part;lang:en;category:car;catalog:4;param:no;group:0;groupsubgroup:1518;subgroup:15140;subsubgroup:65647}#13
 

You might need to join those lines together. 

Jim 



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To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal 

Several folks have stated MK1 & MK2 filler neck seals are the same but from 
what I have found this is not always the case. 
One complete tank & filler pipe I have is an earlier side mounted sender 
type - the seal on that one takes Ford mm metal filler pipe. 
The other tank I have in saloon is a later top mounted sender type - the 
seal on that one also takes a 50mm filler pipe. 
However the aperture diameter on these tanks where filler seal fits is 
completely different - the later tank is much bigger. 
So far I have found and tried 2 different Fiesta seals listed by suppliers. 
The first one supplied would be the correct one for the early type tank. 
The second one supplied is bigger OD but is not correct for my later tank 
(it takes a pipe approx 55mm diameter but fits in a smaller diameter tank 
aperture than aperture in my tank) . I think this type is for tanks using 
later plastic filler pipe 
So there are at least 2 types of standard Fiesta tank seal and so far I have 
not managed to find a seal which fits my later tank aperture - this implies 
my later tank is either non standard or there was at least one other type of 
seal used at some point in production. 
My old seal is rock hard but otherwise decent condition so I hope to get a 
reproduction made using it as template. If that fails it looks like I would 
need to change tank and modify filler to a setup for which seals are 
available ;-( 
John 
. 





On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 10:32:25 UTC+1 Chris G wrote: 

When I changed mine I discovered the seals for MK1 and MK2 are the same part 
but with different part numbers. 
My filler neck was made wider with a short length of metal tube where it 
goes into the tank. Then the filler neck went inside with a short section of 
flexible hose attached. 

Chris G 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:40 PM 
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal 

On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters) 
on my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as it has gone really hard with age. 
But I am struggling to find a correct replacement seal. My filler pipe is 
the metal type 50mm diameter. The aperture in the tank where seal fits is 
approx 61mm inside diameter. 
I have found seals to fit 50mm pipe but they are much smaller tank fitting 
diameter - these match the seal on an old earlier type tank (side sender) II 
have in garage. 
So does anyone happen to know if the seal I need is a Fiesta part or was it 
sourced from another car? 
John 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

2022-09-15 Thread susanandmartin
Going off at a tangent……. Is there a possibility that similar era tanks from 
different car manufacturers may be worthy of investigation? Maybe Land Rover, 
MG or Triumph or other classics with good spares backup?
The question of suitability for petrol including ethanol need answering though.
Martin Scott

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To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

Several folks have stated MK1 & MK2 filler neck seals are the same but from 
what I have found this is not always the case.
One complete tank & filler pipe I have is an earlier side mounted sender type - 
the seal on that one takes Ford mm metal filler pipe.
The other tank I have in saloon is a later top mounted sender type - the seal 
on that one also takes a 50mm filler pipe.
However the aperture diameter on these tanks where filler seal fits is 
completely different - the later tank is much bigger.
So far I have found and tried 2 different Fiesta seals listed by suppliers.
The first one supplied would be the correct one for the early type tank.
The second one supplied is bigger OD but is not correct for my later tank (it 
takes a pipe approx 55mm diameter but fits in a smaller diameter tank aperture 
than aperture in my tank) . I think this type is for tanks using later plastic 
filler pipe
So there are at least 2 types of standard Fiesta tank seal and so far I have 
not managed to find a seal which fits my later tank aperture - this implies my 
later tank is either non standard or there was at least one other type of seal 
used at some point in production.
My old seal is rock hard but otherwise decent condition so I hope to get a 
reproduction made using it as template. If that fails it looks like I would 
need to change tank and modify filler to a setup for which seals are available 
;-(
John
.




On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 10:32:25 UTC+1 Chris G wrote:
When I changed mine I discovered the seals for MK1 and MK2 are the same part 
but with different part numbers.
My filler neck was made wider with a short length of metal tube where it goes 
into the tank. Then the filler neck went inside with a short section of 
flexible hose attached.
 
Chris G
 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:40 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters)  on 
my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as it has gone really hard with age. 
But I am struggling to find a correct replacement seal. My filler pipe is the 
metal type 50mm diameter. The aperture in the tank where seal fits is approx 
61mm inside diameter.
I have found seals to fit 50mm pipe but they are much smaller tank fitting 
diameter - these match the seal on an old earlier type tank (side sender) II 
have in garage.
So does anyone happen to know if the seal I need is a Fiesta part or was it 
sourced from another car?
John
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Left Rear brake problem

2022-09-12 Thread susanandmartin
Is it also a similar percentage reduced (compared to Right side) when the 
parking brake (hand brake) is applied without footbrake?

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Left Rear brake problem

Has your car got the pressure limiting valves on the rear brakes ? , usually 
mounted under the floor across from the fuel tank.
Maybe one is stuck.
 
Jim
 
 
From: Hans Defauwes 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 6:30 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Left Rear brake problem
 
Dear All,
 
My left rear brake has much less braking power than right
MOT failure  0.2 vs 0.8 
 
Replaced brake drums (right had cracks on brake surface)
Replaced brake shoes
Bleeded the rear brakes
Both cylinder are less than 2 years ago replaced (17,5mm) incl. the copper rear 
axle brakeline (outside diamater 5mm)
Took the left brakeshoes off and tested the cylinder – it is not stuck. moves 
freely in and out – by slightly pushing the brake pedal and by hand, no leak.
Put a bit of grease on the ratched mechanism
Slightly sanded the left bakeshoe, decrease it with brake cleaner, roughed the 
inside of the brake drum (60 grid)
 
Any sugestions?
 
 
Hans
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems

2022-09-08 Thread susanandmartin
It may be that the paint was ‘from supplier’ Girling, or similar, but they or 
Ford could have supplied another coating. They (manufacturers) component or 
vehicle, don’t expect the parts to still be in use after so many years ☹

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From: PAUL SLATER
Sent: 08 September 2022 17:19
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems

At least they did put some paint on them which beats some of their products 
today.
But do agree would have been sensible for them to use a brake fluid resistant 
paint not the same stuff they have used for eternity.

The compbrake setup is IVA compliant as long as the bias bar is dealt with as 
per current IVA guidance once setup.
Current IVA guidance is any bias brake setup has to be welded once set and 
pinning or lock wire as used to be allowed is no longer.

(service brake control/ mechanical components) 09b in current IVA manual.

Removing the servo is the main advantage to the compbrake setup I don’t see it 
as a issue at all.
Insurance company were more than happy with the compbrake setup with no extra 
charge but were less enthusiastic other options.



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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 08 September 2022 16:59
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems

The would be more servos around if Ford had thought to paint them with paint 
that was brake fluid proof.
 
The comp brake bias setup won’t pass a IVA test so don’t use it on a car that 
needs a IVA
And you do loose the servo.
 
Jim
 
 
From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 4:52 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems
 
We grew tired of the original servos failing. From the 5 failed servos here its 
always the big diaphragm that fails, well it is with the ones we have here. We 
did manage to patch a couple of them but the repair held but they failed 
quickly at a different point & of all the seals the big diaphragm is NLA.
Finding a good early Ka or Mondeo servo can be tricky with the good ones 
fetching silly money.
 
We went down the compbrake bias brake setup which is a bolt on conversion that 
replaces the original servo and master cylinder.
Not cheap mind but a permanent solution plus has the added advantage of cheap 
easy to get master cylinders and the ability to adjust the brake bias to 
exactly as you want it.
 
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From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 08 September 2022 14:08
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems
 
An extremely useful source of info on Mk1 and 2 Fiesta parts and substitutes 
and suppliers thereof is the Ford Fiesta MK1 / MK2 owners club
 
 
Bill 
 
On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 12:19:50 BST, Jim Hearne  
wrote: 
 
 
There are 2 very different master cylinder, servo and transfer bar setups on 
the Mk2 Fiesta
1986 was the changeover year so we need to work out which setup you have.
Can you send a picture ?
 
Unfortunately parts for both setups are vary hard to find.
 
If you have the ability to fabricate parts then there are various upgrades that 
can be done to either KA or Mondeo master cylinders and servos.
I don’t know if there are any off the shelf conversion kits though.
 
Jim
 
 
 
From: John Hogg 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 12:01 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems
 
Dear All 
 
I hope someone can help.  My recently purchased 2+2 has terrible brakes.  I 
have replaced or refurbished the brake calipers and the pads are good.  I 
purchased a replacement Servo but found it was very different to the original 
one fitted.  I have tried to fit the new servo but find it is different in 
every sense.
 
Can anyone direct me to, or supply me with, a working servo for a 1986 1600 CVH 
engined Fiesta or the part number for.
 
Failing a replacement - does anyone know what else it can be - the pressure 
required to get the brakes to work is as if there is no assistance from the 
servo.
 
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
 
Cheers  
 
John
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

2022-09-08 Thread susanandmartin

Indeed – In my search for E10 hose I found that the pipes specified for boat 
use generally far exceeded that for cars (possibly the danger in a boat fire 
presents as more difficult to escape than with a car?) I got the hose from Car 
Builder solutions in the end, although I suspect they don’t have fuel grommets. 
Certainly you are correct though Jim, the material spec needs to be checked.
Martin Scott
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 08 September 2022 14:08
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

They would have to be specifically for Petrol or the petrol would attack them.
 
Jim
 
 
From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 2:01 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
My next comment may or may not help…….
It may be possible that large grommets of the type needed are available from 
boat chandlers?
Martin Scott
 
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From: mailto:lists...@liberator-systems.co.uk
Sent: 08 September 2022 11:53
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
I have 2 versions of saloon assembly manual. The version 1.0 copy briefly 
states Fiesta MK1 filler pipe must be used and cut and sleeved - no real detail 
just a photo..An obviously later pdf copy (but version not stated) of manual I 
have gives much more detail of cutting, sleeving and joining metal filler pipe 
with hose and clips.
On my car which was a factory build (around late 1991 with Mk2 XR2 donor) the 
metal filler pipe is one continuous pipe - the Ford pipe has clearly been 
carefully cut  and welded (very neatly) in several places with breather pipe 
correctly preserved. There are no sleeves. My guess is QSC did this as an 
improved solution over joining sections with flexi hose and jubilee clips. 
The seal is a puzzle - it has no code markings. it does not match the standard  
ones I have found  for Fiesta, it could be custom seal or a pattern tank 
(unlikekly). My guess is it is from another Ford of similar era ?
If all else fails I could always get a new seal made using old one as model.
ps
If anyone has a MK2 top sender type tank lying around could they please measure 
the inside diameter of the filler pipe aperture - this would help me confirm if 
my tank is standard.
Thanks
 
On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 09:53:09 UTC+1 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
It is – but I remember there was an additional metal piece as shown in the 
saloon assembly manual.
Martin Scott
 
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From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk
Sent: 07 September 2022 22:28
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
@Martin - is that using metal filler pipe into a later type tank?
 
On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 10:12:20 PM UTC+1 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
Mine used a standard Fiesta seal.
Martin Scott
 
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From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk
Sent: 07 September 2022 20:40
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters)  on 
my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as it has gone really hard with age.
But I am struggling to find a correct replacement seal. My filler pipe is the 
metal type 50mm diameter. The aperture in the tank where seal fits is approx 
61mm inside diameter.
I have found seals to fit 50mm pipe but they are much smaller tank fitting 
diameter - these match the seal on an old earlier type tank (side sender) II 
have in garage.
So does anyone happen to know if the seal I need is a Fiesta part or was it 
sourced from another car?
John
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems

2022-09-08 Thread susanandmartin
I apologise if you’re already familiar with …….. If (with engine off) you press 
the brake pedal and keeping it pressed then start the engine, does the pedal go 
down once the engine has started?
If it does then there is some assistance provided by the servo. If it doesn’t 
the first thing to check is for any air leaks in the vacuum pipe to the servo – 
 If there is a leak this will probably affect the running of the engine anyway.
Martin Scott

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From: John Hogg
Sent: 08 September 2022 12:01
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems

Dear All

I hope someone can help.  My recently purchased 2+2 has terrible brakes.  I 
have replaced or refurbished the brake calipers and the pads are good.  I 
purchased a replacement Servo but found it was very different to the original 
one fitted.  I have tried to fit the new servo but find it is different in 
every sense.

Can anyone direct me to, or supply me with, a working servo for a 1986 1600 CVH 
engined Fiesta or the part number for.

Failing a replacement - does anyone know what else it can be - the pressure 
required to get the brakes to work is as if there is no assistance from the 
servo.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers  

John
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

2022-09-08 Thread susanandmartin
My next comment may or may not help…….
It may be possible that large grommets of the type needed are available from 
boat chandlers?
Martin Scott

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

I have 2 versions of saloon assembly manual. The version 1.0 copy briefly 
states Fiesta MK1 filler pipe must be used and cut and sleeved - no real detail 
just a photo..An obviously later pdf copy (but version not stated) of manual I 
have gives much more detail of cutting, sleeving and joining metal filler pipe 
with hose and clips.
On my car which was a factory build (around late 1991 with Mk2 XR2 donor) the 
metal filler pipe is one continuous pipe - the Ford pipe has clearly been 
carefully cut  and welded (very neatly) in several places with breather pipe 
correctly preserved. There are no sleeves. My guess is QSC did this as an 
improved solution over joining sections with flexi hose and jubilee clips. 
The seal is a puzzle - it has no code markings. it does not match the standard  
ones I have found  for Fiesta, it could be custom seal or a pattern tank 
(unlikekly). My guess is it is from another Ford of similar era ?
If all else fails I could always get a new seal made using old one as model.
ps
If anyone has a MK2 top sender type tank lying around could they please measure 
the inside diameter of the filler pipe aperture - this would help me confirm if 
my tank is standard.
 Thanks

On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 09:53:09 UTC+1 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
It is – but I remember there was an additional metal piece as shown in the 
saloon assembly manual.
Martin Scott
 
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
@Martin - is that using metal filler pipe into a later type tank?
 
On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 10:12:20 PM UTC+1 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
Mine used a standard Fiesta seal.
Martin Scott
 
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters)  on 
my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as it has gone really hard with age.
But I am struggling to find a correct replacement seal. My filler pipe is the 
metal type 50mm diameter. The aperture in the tank where seal fits is approx 
61mm inside diameter.
I have found seals to fit 50mm pipe but they are much smaller tank fitting 
diameter - these match the seal on an old earlier type tank (side sender) II 
have in garage.
So does anyone happen to know if the seal I need is a Fiesta part or was it 
sourced from another car?
John
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

2022-09-08 Thread susanandmartin
It is – but I remember there was an additional metal piece as shown in the 
saloon assembly manual.
Martin Scott

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@Martin - is that using metal filler pipe into a later type tank?

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 10:12:20 PM UTC+1 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
Mine used a standard Fiesta seal.
Martin Scott
 
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal
 
On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters)  on 
my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as it has gone really hard with age.
But I am struggling to find a correct replacement seal. My filler pipe is the 
metal type 50mm diameter. The aperture in the tank where seal fits is approx 
61mm inside diameter.
I have found seals to fit 50mm pipe but they are much smaller tank fitting 
diameter - these match the seal on an old earlier type tank (side sender) II 
have in garage.
So does anyone happen to know if the seal I need is a Fiesta part or was it 
sourced from another car?
John
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

2022-09-07 Thread susanandmartin
Mine used a standard Fiesta seal.
Martin Scott

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal

On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters)  on 
my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as it has gone really hard with age.
But I am struggling to find a correct replacement seal. My filler pipe is the 
metal type 50mm diameter. The aperture in the tank where seal fits is approx 
61mm inside diameter.
I have found seals to fit 50mm pipe but they are much smaller tank fitting 
diameter - these match the seal on an old earlier type tank (side sender) II 
have in garage.
So does anyone happen to know if the seal I need is a Fiesta part or was it 
sourced from another car?
John
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

2021-09-01 Thread susanandmartin
I bought some ethanol proof hose last week from Car Builder Solutions, having 
tried local outlets………. Beware, that (certainly in my experience) some vendors 
seem to either have no knowledge or not care about what they are selling or the 
consequences of ethanol in petrol. Geoff has his experience, and I have similar 
(hose failure on Rickman the day after MOT test!). ‘Guidance’ from local motor 
factor was “yes, that’s the hose you want, it’s ok with petrol or diesel” when 
I specifically asked for hose that was ok with petrol containing ethanol. The 
local ‘motorsport’ (ie go faster Vauxhall saloon – carlos fandango wheels) 
garage, said “this hose is ok – we don’t know anyone who’s had problems with 
it, just use super unleaded” when trying to sell me a hose which just said 
Gates 8mm on it.
*** It needs to be to spec SAEJ30 R9 or DIN73379 (which should be 
marked repeatedly on the hose)
Martin Scott

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From: Hans Defauwes
Sent: 01 September 2021 19:46
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I only use Super Unleaded E5
 
E10 kills your CV engine. It affects hoses, gaskets and even alu. incl. the 
carburettor floaters.
You can buy special fuel hoses but the carb and its gaskets can still be a 
problem
 
Hans
 
Or you make E0 yourself.
20L petrol, 1 liter of water mixed with food colour, Mix/shake. Let is stand 
for have a day and drain the colour liquid and you have Petrol without Alcohol
Ideal when you store your QSC for longer periods like winter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mLbuUSt-0 
 
 
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Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.
 
I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
can stomach the extra cost per litre.
 
But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine rather 
than drink watered down E10 petrol. 
Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in a 
Q yet?
 
Best
 
Matthew
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RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

2021-09-01 Thread susanandmartin
I thought I would like a 1.25 Sigma, but I’m sure the exhaust manifold would 
cook the bulkhead! Ecoboost may be the same position, I don’t know anything 
about them TBF.
Martin

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Sent: 01 September 2021 15:37
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
can stomach the extra cost per litre.

But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine rather 
than drink watered down E10 petrol. 
Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in a 
Q yet?

Best

Matthew
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RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

2021-09-01 Thread susanandmartin
There has been controversy over Ethanol, arguments for are that the crop 
(rapeseed?) removes CO2 and provides O2, arguments against are stating that 
land should be used for food crops, not fuel.
As always, no everyone will be happy. Back in 1989, Ford/New Holland tractors 
where I worked at the time were making tractor for Brazil which run on 100 % 
Ethanol.
Maybe we are fortunate, it could be worse?
Martin

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From: bill
Sent: 01 September 2021 12:20
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I’m sure all this e10 nonsense is just a part of the box ticking for climate 
change. I hear that when using e10 the fuel economy goes down so you’d probably 
have to burn as much fossil fuel as part of the e10 fuel-to do a distance as 
you would if you only used pure fossil fuel, the ethanol only seems to go along 
for the ride
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On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:48, Jim Hearne  wrote:
 
I looked there, just says all Fords post 1992 are ok (i guess that covers 
Zetecs) apart from a specific 1.8 Mondeo for some reason.
 
Jim
From: 'bobbycraigis' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 11:45 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.
 
I'm sure I saw info on this on one of the kit car Facebook groups and there was 
DVLA guidance on line about it. At work just now so don't have time to look.
 
 
 
Sent from my Galaxy
 
 
 Original message 
From: Andy Heaton  
Date: 01/09/2021 11:36 (GMT+00:00) 
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol. 
 
Not yet Jim. 
 
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 09:45 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
Hi All, 
Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and silver top 
Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?
 
Thanks,
 
Jim
 
 
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] starter cable current

2021-08-29 Thread susanandmartin
The Cold Cranking Amps is often given as a figure on the battery. To be sure, 
if you aren’t worried about the weight or cost, you could fit the largest 
available that will fit with an eyelet terminal that fits the starter post, 
going for bigger cable is preferable as you say.
Martin Scott

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From: jul...@cityaudioservices.com
Sent: 29 August 2021 19:24
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Cc: Darren Siepka
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] starter cable current

Hi Darren.
That seems logical given the cable lengths. Thanks. Fortunately my cable runs 
will be shorter.
I've done a fair bit of digging and like many other such questions the 
disagreement on the forums is fascinating with debate getting heated! 
The nearest I can get to any degree of certainty is that the expected current 
is likely to be under 200A initial peak, dropping rapidly to somewhat less - 
something in the range 100-150A. These numbers are taken from several threads 
about similar (and bigger, inc diesel) engines so the chances are they are on 
the high side but are in a decent ball park. Anyway, it is unlikely to be more 
and over-estimating current is preferred!
Clearly the voltage drop is what is most important, it must be small compared 
to battery V. I came across this site (which avoids doing calculations the hard 
way and maybe getting them wrong) 
https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/cable-sizing-selection.html   which has a 
calculator. If I calculate based on 1m each way this gives me a V drop of less 
than 0.25V at 150 A on 25mm2 cable (ie <2% of the voltage). So that looks like 
a good option. 
Unless anyone thinks that absurd, I'll give it a go and confirm by measurement.
Regards
Julian
  
 
On 2021-08-29 18:27, Darren Siepka wrote:
I use welding lead cable for my main lines, especially as I have the battery In 
the boot.  
Size wise I use 35 and 50 mm2 cross section.
Reason I use welding lead cable is it tends to be more flexible with thicker 
tougher plastic covering, and best of all usually cheaper too :-)
 
Darren

On Sun, 29 Aug 2021, 13:56 ,  wrote:
Hi
My H4 is fitted with a 2L silver top and I want to replace the main power 
cables (starter and ground). Can anyone advise what the current rating should 
be? 
I suspect the existing wiring was for the original Fiesta 1.6 Zetec so 
potentially is too lightweight. I have found a ~50Ahr battery that fits the 
original cradle (which was for a ~40Ahr battery). So I must have ~ 20% increase 
in cranking amps too. Some 50Ahr batteries are able to generate 450A crank 
current, but I assume (given the options available from suppliers) cables do 
not have to be rated at this current (and it is short duration). So what is 
used?
Any help appreciated.
Many thanks

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Type 9 Gearbox

2021-07-03 Thread susanandmartin
Well at least you were pushing it down! When I took my Rickman for MOT 3 years 
ago the tester didn’t push it down (just across) and tried so hard to get it 
into gear that he broke the (very long ) gear lever!
After I removed the lever, he welded it and the (MIG) weld only lasted 3 days. 
He also failed the car ☹
Fast forward 6 months, and his colleague shouted and swore that the Quantum 
door didn’t open very far, flung it open and leant so hard on the switch panel 
when he got out of the car, that he broke it the switch panel. Unfortunately I 
didn’t spot the breakage before driving a few miles – the spring limiter within 
the hinge was also broken (found weeks later). I don’t take my cars to that 
garage any more. 
Martin

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From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 03 July 2021 11:39
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Type 9 Gearbox

D'oh! What an idiot! Clearly too lol away from the car. I was looking for 
reverse below 5th, rather than past 1st/2nd.

Regards,
Steve

On 3 July 2021 11:30:31 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
 wrote:
I've had the engine and gearbox out of my Xtreme to get the bottom end rebuilt. 
While the engine was away I cleaned the gearbox, and replaced the oil seal. 
With the gearbox bell housing back in place I thought I would check gear 
selection before putting it back on the engine and that is where my worry has 
started.

I can select all 5 forward gears, but it does not want to go into reverse. The 
movement feels fine and I can push the lever down and right, but even with a 
good shove it will not go into reverse.

Is there anything that I could have disturbed when removing the bell housing?

Regards,
Steve
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Values

2021-06-10 Thread susanandmartin
An interesting MOT fail from 2007. It would good if the MOT history from 
earlier in it’s life was also visible (not many miles added in recent years)
• Nearside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively 
corroded (2.4.A.3)
Martin Scott


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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Values

Having seen what a 58,000 mile 1989 Fiesta XR2 is now worth, I think we might 
all be undervaluing our Quantums. Hell, even just as a source of spare parts, 
our cars are now getting pretty valuable. We really do need to make sure that 
we remember that.

£20,250 is now the price to beat. 

https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/results/saturday-1st-sunday-2nd-may/1989-ford-fiesta-xr2/

Best

Matthew
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Values

2021-06-10 Thread susanandmartin
I made a suggestion at an AGM 2018? That we could possibly increase the values 
by offering our cars for sale (for free in selected classic magazines/sites) 
for large money, which could prompt anyone actually selling a Quantum to 
increase their asking price – once the expectation is established, who knows?
I have to say I wouldn’t pay the huge asking prices for some classics, and 
certainly not 500k for any car (even if I had the money), but I am a 
cheapskate. 
Martin Scott

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From: mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 10 June 2021 12:49
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Values

Having seen what a 58,000 mile 1989 Fiesta XR2 is now worth, I think we might 
all be undervaluing our Quantums. Hell, even just as a source of spare parts, 
our cars are now getting pretty valuable. We really do need to make sure that 
we remember that.

£20,250 is now the price to beat. 

https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/results/saturday-1st-sunday-2nd-may/1989-ford-fiesta-xr2/

Best

Matthew
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fiesta mk2 Brake master cylinder reservoir

2021-06-07 Thread susanandmartin
I think he purchased master cylinder repair kits, but I may be incorrect?
It may be that there are alternative reservoirs which will fit, maybe from the 
Land Rover range, but it’s difficult to get info on dimensions.
Martin Scott

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From: Andy Heaton
Sent: 07 June 2021 08:22
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fiesta mk2 Brake master cylinder reservoir

One of the club members recently bought some stock from abroad.its on here 
somewhere !! He was selling them to members. 


On Sun, 6 Jun 2021, 18:40 flob...@gmail.com,  wrote:

Does anyone know where i can get a brake master cylinder reservoir ? New or 
second hand i don't mind which. I think the mk1 & 2 are the same and possibly 
the mk3 can anyone confirm that?
Russ
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Screen trims.

2021-05-18 Thread susanandmartin

Hi Dave, I trust you are well.
I think it was cavalier? If getting a pro to fit it (recommended) they may well 
have generic trim. I think my fitter just used a suitable trim he had on board.
Martin Scott

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From: Dave English
Sent: 18 May 2021 18:20
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Screen trims.


Hi All.
I'm currently in contact with a new Saloon owner (Marc) and he's asking about 
the front & rear screen rubbers on the Saloon. I believe that these screens 
were bonded in and a trim piece was added. So does anyone know who supplied the 
trim piece and if it's needed. Thanks

Dave English
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RE: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit

2021-04-23 Thread susanandmartin
The registration date for the Rickman is from the donor Ford Escort – it may 
have the same number as the donor, I don’t know as I didn’t build it. It is 
correctly registered as Rickman. More recently DVLA would either have the 
registration date as either the donor or the date it was converted with a kit – 
there seemed to be no ‘set rule’. By the time of my Quantum SVA it had changed 
to ‘registration date is when it’s SVA’d’, but it retains the emission regs for 
the original (1987) fiesta (thankfully). Quantums to avoid buying, of course, 
are ones still registered as Fiesta.
My Calvy Mitchel has date of registration 1970 and date of manufacture 1971 – 
very strange!
Martin Scott

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From: bill
Sent: 23 April 2021 12:08
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit

Registered many years before they were first manufactured then  I think mot 
and tax exemption are both 40 years from first registration or manufacture 
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On 23 Apr 2021, at 12:04, susanandmartin 
 wrote:
 
Absolutely – You are correct. I didn’t realise that much time had flown by! My 
Rickman has registration date 1976, was modified some time between 1988 and 
1989, so ok for MOT exemption?
The Quantum date of registration is 2009 (date of SVA), so there’ll probably be 
no petrol available when it reaches 40 years – and I’ll also be 90 
Martin
 
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From: bill
Sent: 23 April 2021 11:40
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit
 
Hi Martin, tax and test exempt is stated for over 40 years old from date of 
manufacture with no major modifications in the last 30 years. I’ve a motorcycle 
that was first registered in 1985 but was actually manufactured in 1981, so tax 
exempt from next year (April) I would be interested to see the details  that 
would give it tax exemption at 30 years old, what I’ve got from dvla web site 
although vague doesn’t seem to back up, it would be nice to have it confirmed. 
Bill
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On 23 Apr 2021, at 11:26, susanandmartin 
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My Rickman is now on the Historic Vehicle tax (ie zero cost) – handy after 
paying out a very large sum (compared to a modern car) for many years! Anyway, 
as long as it’s correctly registered as Quantum, and not a Q-plate, and the 
date of registration is over 30 years, it qualifies on 1st April the following 
year. As for MOT exemption, it needs to be 30 years without any major 
conversion, so will maybe need careful timing? I haven’t gone the ‘no MOT’ 
route with the Rickman yet (and it’s worth checking if insurance is still 
valid) – I may do so, not to avoid a test, (because I think it’s worth getting 
another pair of eyes inspecting), but so that I can get a fresh MOT every 2 
years due to low mileage, and it gives a little flexibility to do repairs 
without a ‘panic due date’ if the weather is bad and I want to repair outside.  
I’m surprised they allowed the no MOT route, but I guess most ‘accidents’ 
happen due to the nut behind the wheel rather than mechanical failure. Old cars 
need some ‘extra care’ though……… Old tyres are a particular danger, and one 
E-type owner on Pistonheads rejoiced in being able to drive on 19 year old 
tyres because they had plenty of tread left! The Ethanol in petrol destroying 
fuel hoses needs careful consideration (ask Geoff), and I had one go pop on the 
Rickman 1 day after if was MOT passed.
Martin Scott
 
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From: Dave the Subbie
Sent: 23 April 2021 10:52
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit
 
Yes, will do.
 
I got the kits last week.  I need one and a spare and I have sold one, so that 
leaves seven. If anyone wants one then they work out at £16.99 inc p Just 
drop me a line.
 
Will put the spare ones on eBay shortly.
 
Just out of interest, my Series 1 hatch has Mk1 Fiesta MacPherson struts, and, 
when I rebuilt them, the plastic top hat spacers at the top of them had broken 
up. I couldn't get them through Ford and so I had some of them made up. There 
were a few spare pairs of them, if they are any use to anyone. I think the Mk2s 
are different, so probably not applicable to most Quantums.
 
My Series 1 (S/N 013) is based on a Mk1 Fiesta, with a bought-in CVH engine and 
5-speed box (+ Mk2 XR2 dash!). Which, I believe, makes it eligible to be Tax 
and MoT exempt, as it's first Reg is 1978. I called DVLA and they were 
supportive, although I haven't done the paperwork yet. 
 
Has anyone else been down that route?
 
Dave.
 
On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 8:46:25 AM UTC+1 andyheaton64 wrote:
Well done Dave can you send in details to our editor who can then put the info 
in our mag for those who are not on the net. I also have 2 different sets of 
seal kits from Germany we ought to compare part numbers.
Regards Andy Heaton 
 
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, 15:13 Dave the Subbie

RE: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit

2021-04-23 Thread susanandmartin
Absolutely – You are correct. I didn’t realise that much time had flown by! My 
Rickman has registration date 1976, was modified some time between 1988 and 
1989, so ok for MOT exemption?
The Quantum date of registration is 2009 (date of SVA), so there’ll probably be 
no petrol available when it reaches 40 years – and I’ll also be 90 
Martin

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From: bill
Sent: 23 April 2021 11:40
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit

Hi Martin, tax and test exempt is stated for over 40 years old from date of 
manufacture with no major modifications in the last 30 years. I’ve a motorcycle 
that was first registered in 1985 but was actually manufactured in 1981, so tax 
exempt from next year (April) I would be interested to see the details  that 
would give it tax exemption at 30 years old, what I’ve got from dvla web site 
although vague doesn’t seem to back up, it would be nice to have it confirmed. 
Bill
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On 23 Apr 2021, at 11:26, susanandmartin 
 wrote:
 
My Rickman is now on the Historic Vehicle tax (ie zero cost) – handy after 
paying out a very large sum (compared to a modern car) for many years! Anyway, 
as long as it’s correctly registered as Quantum, and not a Q-plate, and the 
date of registration is over 30 years, it qualifies on 1st April the following 
year. As for MOT exemption, it needs to be 30 years without any major 
conversion, so will maybe need careful timing? I haven’t gone the ‘no MOT’ 
route with the Rickman yet (and it’s worth checking if insurance is still 
valid) – I may do so, not to avoid a test, (because I think it’s worth getting 
another pair of eyes inspecting), but so that I can get a fresh MOT every 2 
years due to low mileage, and it gives a little flexibility to do repairs 
without a ‘panic due date’ if the weather is bad and I want to repair outside.  
I’m surprised they allowed the no MOT route, but I guess most ‘accidents’ 
happen due to the nut behind the wheel rather than mechanical failure. Old cars 
need some ‘extra care’ though……… Old tyres are a particular danger, and one 
E-type owner on Pistonheads rejoiced in being able to drive on 19 year old 
tyres because they had plenty of tread left! The Ethanol in petrol destroying 
fuel hoses needs careful consideration (ask Geoff), and I had one go pop on the 
Rickman 1 day after if was MOT passed.
Martin Scott
 
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From: Dave the Subbie
Sent: 23 April 2021 10:52
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit
 
Yes, will do.
 
I got the kits last week.  I need one and a spare and I have sold one, so that 
leaves seven. If anyone wants one then they work out at £16.99 inc p Just 
drop me a line.
 
Will put the spare ones on eBay shortly.
 
Just out of interest, my Series 1 hatch has Mk1 Fiesta MacPherson struts, and, 
when I rebuilt them, the plastic top hat spacers at the top of them had broken 
up. I couldn't get them through Ford and so I had some of them made up. There 
were a few spare pairs of them, if they are any use to anyone. I think the Mk2s 
are different, so probably not applicable to most Quantums.
 
My Series 1 (S/N 013) is based on a Mk1 Fiesta, with a bought-in CVH engine and 
5-speed box (+ Mk2 XR2 dash!). Which, I believe, makes it eligible to be Tax 
and MoT exempt, as it's first Reg is 1978. I called DVLA and they were 
supportive, although I haven't done the paperwork yet. 
 
Has anyone else been down that route?
 
Dave.
 
On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 8:46:25 AM UTC+1 andyheaton64 wrote:
Well done Dave can you send in details to our editor who can then put the info 
in our mag for those who are not on the net. I also have 2 different sets of 
seal kits from Germany we ought to compare part numbers.
Regards Andy Heaton 
 
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, 15:13 Dave the Subbie,  wrote:
Hi all!
 
Some Good News at last!
 
The late XR2 Master Cylinders (smooth steel barrelled ones) are unavailable, as 
most of you will know. And the repair kits available on eBay, etc are for the 
early, cast items and don't fit. BEWARE: There is one advert on there that is 
quite adamant that it does fit, but it doesn't - look at the contents. I bought 
one hoping it was the wrong photo, but it wasn't, so that was £15 wasted..!
 
The Good News: I have just identified a kit that does the job. It has the 
correct size piston seals, the reservoir seals (including the strange shaped 
rear one that the yellow plastic cover on the rear goes into), the O-ring for 
the yellow plastic cover and the seal for the back of the cover where the 
piston comes out. It even has the shims that sit behind the piston seals. In 
short, it's the complete kit!
 
As it's listed for a different car, I bought one to make sure it was the right 
thing, and successfully rebuilt the master cylinder on our white Saloon this 
weekend. 
 
I need another one for my blue 2+2, and a spare

RE: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit

2021-04-23 Thread susanandmartin
My Rickman is now on the Historic Vehicle tax (ie zero cost) – handy after 
paying out a very large sum (compared to a modern car) for many years! Anyway, 
as long as it’s correctly registered as Quantum, and not a Q-plate, and the 
date of registration is over 30 years, it qualifies on 1st April the following 
year. As for MOT exemption, it needs to be 30 years without any major 
conversion, so will maybe need careful timing? I haven’t gone the ‘no MOT’ 
route with the Rickman yet (and it’s worth checking if insurance is still 
valid) – I may do so, not to avoid a test, (because I think it’s worth getting 
another pair of eyes inspecting), but so that I can get a fresh MOT every 2 
years due to low mileage, and it gives a little flexibility to do repairs 
without a ‘panic due date’ if the weather is bad and I want to repair outside.  
I’m surprised they allowed the no MOT route, but I guess most ‘accidents’ 
happen due to the nut behind the wheel rather than mechanical failure. Old cars 
need some ‘extra care’ though……… Old tyres are a particular danger, and one 
E-type owner on Pistonheads rejoiced in being able to drive on 19 year old 
tyres because they had plenty of tread left! The Ethanol in petrol destroying 
fuel hoses needs careful consideration (ask Geoff), and I had one go pop on the 
Rickman 1 day after if was MOT passed.
Martin Scott

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From: Dave the Subbie
Sent: 23 April 2021 10:52
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 Master Cylinder Repair Kit

Yes, will do.

I got the kits last week.  I need one and a spare and I have sold one, so that 
leaves seven. If anyone wants one then they work out at £16.99 inc p Just 
drop me a line.

Will put the spare ones on eBay shortly.

Just out of interest, my Series 1 hatch has Mk1 Fiesta MacPherson struts, and, 
when I rebuilt them, the plastic top hat spacers at the top of them had broken 
up. I couldn't get them through Ford and so I had some of them made up. There 
were a few spare pairs of them, if they are any use to anyone. I think the Mk2s 
are different, so probably not applicable to most Quantums.

My Series 1 (S/N 013) is based on a Mk1 Fiesta, with a bought-in CVH engine and 
5-speed box (+ Mk2 XR2 dash!). Which, I believe, makes it eligible to be Tax 
and MoT exempt, as it's first Reg is 1978. I called DVLA and they were 
supportive, although I haven't done the paperwork yet. 

Has anyone else been down that route?

Dave.

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 8:46:25 AM UTC+1 andyheaton64 wrote:
Well done Dave can you send in details to our editor who can then put the info 
in our mag for those who are not on the net. I also have 2 different sets of 
seal kits from Germany we ought to compare part numbers.
Regards Andy Heaton 

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, 15:13 Dave the Subbie,  wrote:
Hi all!

Some Good News at last!

The late XR2 Master Cylinders (smooth steel barrelled ones) are unavailable, as 
most of you will know. And the repair kits available on eBay, etc are for the 
early, cast items and don't fit. BEWARE: There is one advert on there that is 
quite adamant that it does fit, but it doesn't - look at the contents. I bought 
one hoping it was the wrong photo, but it wasn't, so that was £15 wasted..!

The Good News: I have just identified a kit that does the job. It has the 
correct size piston seals, the reservoir seals (including the strange shaped 
rear one that the yellow plastic cover on the rear goes into), the O-ring for 
the yellow plastic cover and the seal for the back of the cover where the 
piston comes out. It even has the shims that sit behind the piston seals. In 
short, it's the complete kit!

As it's listed for a different car, I bought one to make sure it was the right 
thing, and successfully rebuilt the master cylinder on our white Saloon this 
weekend. 

I need another one for my blue 2+2, and a spare, and, as they come from 
Germany, I have ordered a batch of 10 kits to save on p If anyone is 
interested, just let me know and I will post you one. Even with postage, they 
should be less than £20 each.

(Although I did think it might be interesting to put one on eBay to see what an 
XR2 restorer would pay for it...!) ;-)

Obviously, they are only seal kits, so if the reservoir, plastic cover, bore or 
piston are U/S then they won't help, but if, like ours, it was just the seals 
leaking, then it's a whole lot easier than trying to find something similar, 
modifying the servo brackets/brake pipes, etc.

Well, I thought that it was good news, anyway! And that has to be worth 
something this year...

Dave.
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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2L Zetec Blacktop Pistons

2021-03-25 Thread susanandmartin
Not that it helps with your quest, but (hopefully) of interest. 
When I was working at Ford we had an engine being tested for cold start 
durability at a University. As proof (if it was ever needed) that starting an 
engine repeatedly from cold with a fuel-enriched intake mixture would wreck an 
engine, there was a need for new pistons after several months and x000’s of 
start procedures. When trying to source new pistons, however, it was found they 
were not listed as a spare and could only be bought with an engine block. As 
this wouldn’t help our engine block durability testing, great discussions 
ensued taking several hours and it was agreed some pistons could be supplied 
direct from the assembly line (maybe one car was released without pistons? ). 
This is a good example of how Ford goes to great lengths with their testing 
(and probably other manufacturers do as well).
Martin Scott

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From: Nigel Plant
Sent: 25 March 2021 12:15
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2L Zetec Blacktop Pistons

Probably one that's right up Jim's street.  Does anyone have the Ford 
specification for 2L Zetec blacktop pistons.  Need gudgeon pin diameter, 
compression height essentially all the key dimensions.  I have broken a piston 
on  my Xtreme turbo such that it needs reboring and cannot get any standard but 
oversize pistons.  Am also told that Nural and Mahle have no production plans 
to manufacture any.  I can get forged pistons and rods, which would be better 
performance wise but didn't want to drop compression to 8:1 or fork out £1200.  
9:1 is my ideal for the power I want.  I have found a custom piston manufacture 
for forged pistons alone, but they require a piston (no problem) and the key 
specs.

For information, I have learnt one interesting point that people may find 
useful.  Although the silvertop and black top have different length conrods 
(ctr to ctr) and different compression heights.  The combined total of conrod 
length and compression height for the silvertop and blacktop are the same, 
meaning a set of silvertop conrods and pistons can be used to replace the 
blacktop ones.

Thanks for any help on the specs.

Nigel Plant
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Brake pipe flare

2021-03-19 Thread susanandmartin
Hi Derek. Jim is absolutely spot on (as always ) with his advice. I tried one 
of the first (multi sizes) link ones a few years back – utter rubbish, I’d have 
done better using a centre punch ☹
The second, hand -held one is a direct copy of my (very old) Sykes-Pickavent 
hand-held one and they work very well. As Jim says, the flare has to be done in 
one action. To do a double flare the flare tool is removed after the first 
flaring, and turned around to do the second part to complete the double flare. 
I’ve used mine for pipes of at least 3 kit cars including the Quantum, 
including being doubled-up using it by hand under the Calvy Mitchel many years 
ago. A first-class piece of kit. The expensive SP one may be easier to 
use/slightly better? But can’t be used when the operator is on their back under 
the car! Oh- ALWAYS remember to put the threaded fitting on the pipe before 
doing the flare ………. Don’t ask me how I know 
Martin Scott

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Sent: 19 March 2021 17:24
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake pipe flare

I think the Fiesta uses DIN/ISO - I have just been doing some saloon rear lines 
and braided hoses and used a DIN tool (Trident). If you do need to make the 
female concave type flares (ice cream cone shape) you will need the SAE type 
tool. I am pretty sure the SAE convex male flare will seal OK in a metric DIN 
concave seat as flare just deforms as the union is tightened (with copper or 
copper nickel pipes at least). 

John

On Friday, 19 March 2021 at 16:57:50 UTC Jim Hearne wrote:
Ok, after some googleing, what i thought was a double flare is actually called 
a bubble flare.
So, the Quantums have mostly bubble flares but there are some double flares on 
there as well.
 
Jim
 
 
From: Jim Hearne 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 4:42 PM
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake pipe flare
 
I think the Imperial and Metric brake pipe sizes are compatible, still seems to 
be called 3/16”
I’ve certainly not bought a specific imperial or metric tool, just a brake pipe 
tool.
Some of the joints are double flare so make sure your tool can do those.
 
Get a decent tool, the cheap ones are very hard to get proper flares.
https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/automotive-tools/halfords-brake-pipe-flaring-tool-kit-187982.html
This sort always seem to be poor.
 
I had one similar to this for a while, it was very good as long as you didn’t 
need to take the pipe out and put it back in again, it wouldn’t  always grip if 
you tried that.
https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/hand-held-brake-pipe-flaring-tool
 
I’ve got one of these now, very good but pricy.
https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/automotive/brake-and-clutch-tools/027250-hand-held-auto-brake-pipe-flaring-tool/p/ZT1120233X?utm_source=google_medium=cpc_campaign=dsa-generic_content=automotive=dsa-900928623826=Cj0KCQjwl9GCBhDvARIsAFunhsklmb5SPdAjX_N1DdZrRwc8GGPvfEIkIuFKdOlc4H5fTOkSKJSqI7caAsz1EALw_wcB
 
Jim
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From: Derek Clews 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 4:28 PM
To: Quantum Owners Club 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake pipe flare
 
Hi All, 
 
Can anyone confirm the Q Coupe and 2+2 (i.e. Fiesta Mk2) Brake system?  I want 
to get a flaring tool and think it is using a 4.75 DIN ISO 3/16" Single Bubble 
Flare.  Is that correct?

Cheers

Derek
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please

2021-03-05 Thread susanandmartin
Something I just thought……… Some glass is clear, some has a slight green tint 
(white paper can reveal it – not always easy to see!.
Martin

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From: Gordon Harker
Sent: 04 March 2021 23:29
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please

Thanks one and all, most informative.
So
M1 or 2 front screen and window glass
1/4 light is passat
Rear screen Mk 3 golf from photo's and hard top picture. My hard top has the 
grooves in it and bigger rear screen.  Happen to have one of each intact in 
hard tops on the other cars hiding down the side of the house, so have a 
comparison of the two and it is a much bigger screen in the damaged one.

Mini bit was interesting, worth looking at as may be easier to find going 
forward?
On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 12:31:43 UTC dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
I recently took a template off a BMW mini with a view to updating my hardtop, 
fits quite well.
I have been investigating creating a t top with rear wiper for more all year 
round use.

Darren

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 12:16 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
I would think it’s not a very common requirement, as a long as a screen fits 
Car X Model Y nobody is really interested in it’s actual sizes.
Except kit builders of course.
 
Jim
 
 
 
From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:59 AM
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
 
I wonder if glass suppliers have catalogues with dimensions shown? It would be 
very helpful for us kit builders to be able to find such detail. I’ve looked at 
great length on the ‘net but found to such info ☹
Martin
 
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 04 March 2021 11:34
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
 
Oh, i suppose, maybe.
 
Jim
 
 
From: Jim Hearne 
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:32 AM
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
 
I’m still not convinced that it was a hatchback screen for the Mk2 Hardtop, i’m 
sure it would be far too big.
 
Jim
 
 
From: Darren Siepka 
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:02 AM
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
 
Here are images MK3 and MK4 golf glass to help identifying.
 
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:59 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
https://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/106/quantum-saloon-fiesta-donor-parts 
 
 
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:49 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
Looks like a copy of the list i was looking for, do you have a link and i’ll 
save it again.
I can confirm the 2+2 Mk1 hardtop did use a screen from a Mk4 Escort Cabro as i 
actually removed one from an Escort top and fitted in into my 2+2 hard top.
 
Jim
 
 
From: Darren Siepka 
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:35 AM
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
 
This from proboard forum 
 
Says the bonded rear glass was mk3 hatchback.
 
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:28 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
Here are the two QTR glass codes 
 
Also don't forget you can get new HEATED front windscreens . 
 
https://www.heatedwindscreen.com/acatalog/ford-fiesta-clear-heated-windscreen.html
 
As Jim says the newer smooth hardtop uses a golf bonded glass from MK4 iirc
 
Darren
 
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 09:59 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
2+2 Quarterlight glass
 
> Desc. Passat FDVL 81/88
> HT Number..0730L GN5HFV
> Sup. Part..321 845 251G
> Bin No..M1023
>
 
 
The Mk2 saloon door door glass is MkII Astra 3 door 1984-1991, not the 2+2, as 
Paul says, that was Mk2 Fiesta
 
Jim
 
 
 
 
From: Gordon Harker 
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 11:20 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
 
Strong little cars those 2+2's and did not intend to find out until under hard 
braking on a dry road the back over took the front.  Ended up visiting a ditch 
and hedge.  Still restored my faith in people, they stopped and towed me out, 
drove home. 
 
On assessment, one bent tie rod, and lot broken glass and some excess hawthorne 
hedge.
 
So, does any one know what the glass is please?  Specifically
 
Rear heated glass on the later hard top, bonded I believe.
Front quarter light n/s
Assume windscreen and passenger window are standard MK2 bits (believe based on 
83 ish car)
 
the windscreen did intially survive, but the hedge got in on the way our, guess 
it was being vindictive.
 
Other things are the fibre glass top (hockey stick) on top of quarter light is 
broken and front corner to hard top and not sitting flush at moment.  Hard top 
should fibre glass ok and hockey stick may unless anyone has one lying around.
 
Passenger door jammed shut but got even gaps all round, so will look at on a 
dry weeked.
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] New 2+2

2021-03-02 Thread susanandmartin
TKC is on the web (that’s where I thought I’d seen it – oops!) ……Totalkitcar.com
It was a short piece about the Sunrunner. I then followed the link to Welcome 
to Quantum Sports Cars
Which is where It says there is a 2+2 in development.  
Martin Scott


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Sent: 02 March 2021 18:17
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] New 2+2

Is this Quantum's best kept secret; I wasnt aware of this...
Do I have to subscrib to TKC mag. or can someone share a photo or info?
Cheers Mark
On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 1:00:04 PM UTC 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
Hmm – will it have pop-up lights? We want pop-ups  May not be IVA compliant? ☹
Martin Scott
 
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 28 February 2021 12:26
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] New 2+2
 
I thought the new 2+2 was going to be at Stoneleigh last year but of course 
that was cancelled.
I guess it will be cancelled this year as well (if it's not been already) 
unless it has been moved to later in the year.

Jim
On 27/02/2021 18:29, susanandmartin wrote:
I notice on Totalkitcar.com there is an announcement that a new 2+2 is coming! 
Does anyone have any images yet? An interesting development, and I’m sure 
congratulations are due to Rob and the team.
Martin Scott
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RE: [Quantum Owners] New 2+2

2021-02-28 Thread susanandmartin
Hmm – will it have pop-up lights? We want pop-ups  May not be IVA compliant? ☹
Martin Scott

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 28 February 2021 12:26
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] New 2+2

I thought the new 2+2 was going to be at Stoneleigh last year but of course 
that was cancelled.
I guess it will be cancelled this year as well (if it's not been already) 
unless it has been moved to later in the year.

Jim

On 27/02/2021 18:29, susanandmartin wrote:
I notice on Totalkitcar.com there is an announcement that a new 2+2 is coming! 
Does anyone have any images yet? An interesting development, and I’m sure 
congratulations are due to Rob and the team.
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RE: [Quantum Owners] H4 (Fiesta Mk3) Bonnet release

2021-02-28 Thread susanandmartin
Wow – Thanks for that Jim. I’ve been searching for a Ford parts list (Wife & 
Daughter both have Ka+ cars – 5 door ka) so have added to favourites. 
Martin Scott

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 28 February 2021 12:35
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 (Fiesta Mk3) Bonnet release

I checked on the online parts catalogue and it doesn't show any extra brackets, 
i'm sure the lever and the cable outer both mount to the big alloy casting 
around the end of the column

https://ford.catalogs-parts.com/#{client:1;page:part;lang:en;category:car;catalog:74;param:no;group:0;groupsubgroup:1937;subgroup:17017;subsubgroup:73868}

https://ford.catalogs-parts.com/#{client:1;page:part;lang:en;category:car;catalog:74;param:no;group:0;groupsubgroup:1931;subgroup:16990;subsubgroup:73756}

Jim

On 28/02/2021 12:25, Jim Hearne wrote:
Here's a reasonable picture with the Mk3 column at the bottom.

Jim

On 28/02/2021 11:57, jul...@cityaudioservices.com wrote:
Hi
I think there is a bit missing.  I think there probably should be a bracket in 
there which holds the release handle pivots and provides a point for the cable 
sleeve to be held correctly.
I can fabricate stuff. The problem of course is having no drawings to work with 
so that the release handle lands up correctly placed for the column shroud. It 
doesn't promise to be easy.
To answer Jim's comment, I do think this is a Mk3 set up - the dash is Mk3 
shape (but with the mod to the dials), switchgear seems to match and the column 
shrouds make sense in the they fit neatly where you'd expect them to.
Thanks all.
 

On 2021-02-28 10:38, susanandmartin wrote:
I can only think that part of your column is missing/been changed. Is it 
possible to rig up a suitable bracket to bolt onto your column? To hold the 
outer cable, there are many bicycle brake cable parts which may help – Ebay may 
give some inspiration, and I may well have something in my spares box that I 
can help you with. Are you able to attach some photos of the area/parts?
Martin Scott
 
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] H4 (Fiesta Mk3) Bonnet release
 
Hi
My H4 has an awful bodge on the steering column bonnet release - actually it 
isn't even bodged, the cable sheath is not constrained at all and there is no 
lever. I have obtained the orange lever and spring which appears to be correct 
and I have sourced a cable which will work. However having removed the cowl at 
last I find there is nothing on the column into which this lever fits so on its 
own it is useless. 
Does anyone have, or know how to obtain, this unit?
Thanks
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] H4 (Fiesta Mk3) Bonnet release

2021-02-28 Thread susanandmartin
I can only think that part of your column is missing/been changed. Is it 
possible to rig up a suitable bracket to bolt onto your column? To hold the 
outer cable, there are many bicycle brake cable parts which may help – Ebay may 
give some inspiration, and I may well have something in my spares box that I 
can help you with. Are you able to attach some photos of the area/parts?
Martin Scott

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Sent: 28 February 2021 08:39
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] H4 (Fiesta Mk3) Bonnet release

Hi
My H4 has an awful bodge on the steering column bonnet release - actually it 
isn't even bodged, the cable sheath is not constrained at all and there is no 
lever. I have obtained the orange lever and spring which appears to be correct 
and I have sourced a cable which will work. However having removed the cowl at 
last I find there is nothing on the column into which this lever fits so on its 
own it is useless. 
Does anyone have, or know how to obtain, this unit?
Thanks

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[Quantum Owners] New 2+2

2021-02-27 Thread susanandmartin
I notice on Totalkitcar.com there is an announcement that a new 2+2 is coming! 
Does anyone have any images yet? An interesting development, and I’m sure 
congratulations are due to Rob and the team.
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Looking for information on Quantum Saloon

2021-02-08 Thread susanandmartin
Assuming the old struts worked when they were new, if they have markings on 
them showing the Newtons, it may be just a case of measuring compressed length 
and free length – An online search of suppliers should show up something. Low 
strength ones are often used for tractor windows, office equipment etc.
Martin Scott

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From: paul slater
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Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Looking for information on Quantum Saloon

Thank you for the photos. They show where its picked up the small amount of 
damage to the nose and sill sections at the lower edge as all intact in the 
photo with white wheels.
Also shows what has been worked on recently too.

Getting a list of part together that I know it needs,
Need to find out where the gas struts for the boot come from as they are past 
their best and don’t hold the boot open anymore.

Many thanks
Paul


From: Dave English
Sent: 07 February 2021 21:21
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Looking for information on Quantum Saloon

Hi Paul.

Haven't got anything on the E-bay seller I saw but here's some of the photos I 
picked up.

Regards
Dave E
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

2020-11-04 Thread susanandmartin
Just by measuring the gap between each wheel and its adjacent trailing arm, and 
calculating the adjustment to get the axle central – welding some thick washers 
to the mounting bracket that fits on the boot floor, and re-doing the bracket 
hole. This was in preference to re-doing the boot floor GRP and redrilling the 
holes in the boot floor.  The only difference introduced by the springs is if 
the panhard rod moves by rotation from the horizontal position, which of course 
it will do when the suspension wheels go up/down anyway. Arguably (if the 
measurements are taken when the panhard rod is horizontal) it could be prudent 
to adjust the panhard rod a ‘little long’ because any suspension movement 
up/down will tend to effectively ‘shorten’ it , thus moving the axle towards 
the right. An other (more accurate/heavier) way would be fit a watts linkage, 
which will keep the axle central.  At the end of the day from (my albeit 
simple) calculation it appears (ignoring rubber/poly ‘squash’) there is only 
about 3mm ‘movement’ due to panhard rod during suspension travel (someone will 
maybe prove me wrong?)
Martin

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From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk
Sent: 04 November 2020 10:31
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

@Martin. I guess you adjusted your axle position by moving/modifying panhard 
rod mounts mounts? For me an adjustable rod (diy or buy) seems a better way to 
go particularly as I am likely to be experimenting with different rear springs 
which will necessitate tweaking the rod length.
John

On Tuesday, 3 November 2020 at 21:01:13 UTC 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
The panhard rod doesn’t need to adjustable, just needs ‘adjusting’ to the 
correct length to get the axle central. I did this on mine, and the only bushes 
I could get were poly, so they will be also fitted..
martin
 
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From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk
Sent: 03 November 2020 12:40
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
£12 is certainly cheap for a BMW part! Will be interesting to see how this 
looks when you get it all installed and of course how it performs. Pretty sure 
I will need to follow a similar route  My rear (suspension that is) ) needs a 
good working over - needs shorter springs (the ride height is way too high - 
the rear has the 4*4 look which seems common on Quantum saloons) - needs an 
adjustable panhard rod (axle is quite offset) - needs new trailing arms and 
poly bushing all round
On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 20:31:52 UTC dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
So here is a picture showing a comparison of the xr2 Vs the 12mm E60 bar.
 
I found it by lots and lots of picture comparing on the net, then took a gamble 
on the 12mm which was just £12 delivered!
 
I have designed some extension arms to go onto the original ends , this will 
offer adjustability and reduce its torsion rating.
 
On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, 19:05 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, 
 wrote:
Darren you seem to have a talent for finding and adapting parts ;-)...
Can I ask how did you arrive at the BMW bar solution - trawling through 
scrapyards or did you find some reference material regarding bar dimensions on 
different cars?
I started searching by just by looking at photos of various bars which have 
similar shape/proportions. Mazda MX5 front was one candidate although I haven't 
measured one up yet.
John
 
On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 16:27:01 UTC 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
That servo installation looks good – did it  need a new mounting bracket and a 
change to the transfer tube?
Martin 
 
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 November 2020 15:35
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fw: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 3:07 PM
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
It may be that later ones have the same part (but with a different part 
number), but IIRC they changed to a twist beam with no separate ARB. Anything 
over a few years old will possibly be difficult to obtain.
BTW how did the Land Rover servo fit on the Q03?
Martin
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

2020-11-03 Thread susanandmartin
The panhard rod doesn’t need to adjustable, just needs ‘adjusting’ to the 
correct length to get the axle central. I did this on mine, and the only bushes 
I could get were poly, so they will be also fitted..
martin

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Sent: 03 November 2020 12:40
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

£12 is certainly cheap for a BMW part! Will be interesting to see how this 
looks when you get it all installed and of course how it performs. Pretty sure 
I will need to follow a similar route  My rear (suspension that is) ) needs a 
good working over - needs shorter springs (the ride height is way too high - 
the rear has the 4*4 look which seems common on Quantum saloons) - needs an 
adjustable panhard rod (axle is quite offset) - needs new trailing arms and 
poly bushing all round
On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 20:31:52 UTC dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
So here is a picture showing a comparison of the xr2 Vs the 12mm E60 bar.

I found it by lots and lots of picture comparing on the net, then took a gamble 
on the 12mm which was just £12 delivered!

I have designed some extension arms to go onto the original ends , this will 
offer adjustability and reduce its torsion rating.

On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, 19:05 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, 
 wrote:
Darren you seem to have a talent for finding and adapting parts ;-)...
Can I ask how did you arrive at the BMW bar solution - trawling through 
scrapyards or did you find some reference material regarding bar dimensions on 
different cars?
I started searching by just by looking at photos of various bars which have 
similar shape/proportions. Mazda MX5 front was one candidate although I haven't 
measured one up yet.
John

On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 16:27:01 UTC 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
That servo installation looks good – did it  need a new mounting bracket and a 
change to the transfer tube?
Martin 
 
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 November 2020 15:35
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Subject: Fw: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
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It may be that later ones have the same part (but with a different part 
number), but IIRC they changed to a twist beam with no separate ARB. Anything 
over a few years old will possibly be difficult to obtain.
BTW how did the Land Rover servo fit on the Q03?
Martin
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

2020-11-02 Thread susanandmartin
Yes…… I now remember seeing the ARB ‘added’ to the twist beam and thinking it 
was a bit strange. Nice work with the servo – mine was a much easier swap for 
the Escort one on the Rickman.
Martin

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 November 2020 15:35
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fw: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

 
The Mk3 /4 Fiestas with twist beam still had a rear ARB on the XR2i and RS1800i 
models.
I guess it was easier to add the ARB (it’s only fixed to the twist beam) than 
to uprate the twist beam itself.
 
I thought i posted an update on the Land Rover servo.
 
It’s fitted and should work.
The 2 main issues were that it has the master cylinder studs at a different 
angle relative to the mounting studs compared to the Ford servo.
This meant that the master cylinder was at an angle.
I modified the servo mounting bracket to rotate the servo so the master 
cylinder studs were at the correct angle.
 
Also, as you already know, the input pushrod to the servo has an eye fixing on 
it instead of a fork.
I made a 2 part fork assembly that bolted over the existing eye on the servo 
and converted it to a fork.
 
I also had to move the servo mounting brackets across the bulkhead by about 
20mm to get the servo to clear the side of the engine bay.
And cut and shorten the transfer bar for the same reason, it was already cut 
and welded with some dubious welds so i didn’t mind redoing it.
 
Jim
 
 
 
From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 3:07 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
It may be that later ones have the same part (but with a different part 
number), but IIRC they changed to a twist beam with no separate ARB. Anything 
over a few years old will possibly be difficult to obtain.
BTW how did the Land Rover servo fit on the Q03?
Martin
 
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 November 2020 11:22
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
That may have been what i was thinking of as well.
Obviously wouldn’t have been the original part Quantum used as the Mk4 Fiesta 
wasn’t around then.
 
JIm
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Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 11:14 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
I used a later part…. Details below from my list
 
Bracket-anti roll bar
96FB
5488
AA
1003610
Fiesta 96 part



 
Martin Scott
 
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From: John R
Sent: 31 October 2020 16:21
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
Hi All
 
Are the saloon rear ARB brackets, P clamps etc. custom QSC or standard Fiesta 
MK2?  I do have a build manual but it does not seem to specify.
 
Currently running what looks like a standard XR2 ARB 14mm diameter but as I 
will be rebuilding rear suspension soon thinking of upgrading it.
 
John
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

2020-11-02 Thread susanandmartin
That servo installation looks good – did it  need a new mounting bracket and a 
change to the transfer tube?
Martin 

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 November 2020 15:35
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fw: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 3:07 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
It may be that later ones have the same part (but with a different part 
number), but IIRC they changed to a twist beam with no separate ARB. Anything 
over a few years old will possibly be difficult to obtain.
BTW how did the Land Rover servo fit on the Q03?
Martin
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

2020-11-02 Thread susanandmartin
Surprised they are narrower (BMW probably being a wider car), the 18mm one will 
possibly cause all sorts of stability problems. I recall fitting lower rated 
front springs to my Calvy Mitchel, which resulted in more body roll (than the 
MGB GT ones previously fitted) and the result was a much nicer handling (less 
understeer). The guy who fitted huge anti-roll bars to his probably ended up 
unable to get around bends! Someone once stated “we moved away from solid axles 
to independent suspension, and then put anti-roll bars on, thus reverting back 
to solid axles!” That’s an extreme statement, but indicates that there’s a 
happy medium to aim for.

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From: Darren Siepka
Sent: 02 November 2020 13:46
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

I am just replacing/ updating the rear bar on my 2+2 which is the same as the 
saloon.
I am using a BMW rear bar from E60/61.
There are several sizes ranging from a 12mm to a 18mm depending on engine size.
It is narrower so you need new brackets on the axle
But they are cheap, very cheap.
According to the roll bar calculator a 12 mm works out the same torsional 
rating as our 14mm, the 18mm I got from an M5 calculates as being just over 
twice nearly three times! I also have a 12mm so will see how the two differ.

On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, 10:45 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
On the saloon only the ARB itself and the rubber bushes are Mk2 Fiesta.
There are no mounting brackets like on the Fiesta, the clamps bolt directly to 
the floor.
And the Clamps are top hat shaped clamps with 2 bolts rather than P shaped with 
1 bolt on the Fiesta
>From memory they came from Mk3 Fiesta but i might be wrong.
 
Jim
 
 
From: John R 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
Hi All 
 
Are the saloon rear ARB brackets, P clamps etc. custom QSC or standard Fiesta 
MK2?  I do have a build manual but it does not seem to specify.
 
Currently running what looks like a standard XR2 ARB 14mm diameter but as I 
will be rebuilding rear suspension soon thinking of upgrading it.
 
John
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

2020-11-02 Thread susanandmartin
It may be that later ones have the same part (but with a different part 
number), but IIRC they changed to a twist beam with no separate ARB. Anything 
over a few years old will possibly be difficult to obtain.
BTW how did the Land Rover servo fit on the Q03?
Martin

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 November 2020 11:22
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

That may have been what i was thinking of as well.
Obviously wouldn’t have been the original part Quantum used as the Mk4 Fiesta 
wasn’t around then.
 
JIm
From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 11:14 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
I used a later part…. Details below from my list
 
Bracket-anti roll bar
96FB
5488
AA
1003610
Fiesta 96 part



 
Martin Scott
 
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From: John R
Sent: 31 October 2020 16:21
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
 
Hi All
 
Are the saloon rear ARB brackets, P clamps etc. custom QSC or standard Fiesta 
MK2?  I do have a build manual but it does not seem to specify.
 
Currently running what looks like a standard XR2 ARB 14mm diameter but as I 
will be rebuilding rear suspension soon thinking of upgrading it.
 
John
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

2020-11-02 Thread susanandmartin
I used a later part…. Details below from my list

Bracket-anti roll bar
96FB
5488
AA
1003610
Fiesta 96 part




Martin Scott

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From: John R
Sent: 31 October 2020 16:21
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

Hi All

Are the saloon rear ARB brackets, P clamps etc. custom QSC or standard Fiesta 
MK2?  I do have a build manual but it does not seem to specify.

Currently running what looks like a standard XR2 ARB 14mm diameter but as I 
will be rebuilding rear suspension soon thinking of upgrading it.

John

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[Quantum Owners] Quantum Mechanics

2020-09-25 Thread susanandmartin
Hello to all and special thanks to the committee and helpers for the latest QM. 
Q003 is looking really good – is there a prize for spotting Steve under the car 
…… I think I can see him 
Stay safe and healthy,
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar

2020-08-02 Thread susanandmartin
I may have missed something, but, Russ, did you give ADS dimensions, or your 
car, or have they a drawing they are working from. I’ve not heard of ADS, but 
maybe they have made them before?
Martin Scott

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From: russ price
Sent: 01 August 2020 09:37
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar

Picked up new tow bar from ADS Fabrications, looks well made. Ordered thinking 
I would not have time do a mock up and get one made locally before Stoneleigh, 
turns out i have more than enough time, it does look neat though and less 
"agricultural" than i would have made.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 9:13:55 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I 
assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, 
mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar

2020-07-16 Thread susanandmartin
I took 5 photos of the towbar on my saloon and tried to send them yesterday, 
but the file size was too big, so unsuccessful. I’ll send them via WETRANSFER, 
which will then make them dowloadable for a period (7 days IIRC)
Please ignore the rust (which shows up more in the photos!) I’ll have to paint 
it again. NB there are 4 bolts across the rear panel, these attach the towbar 
and a strip of steel (1.5 inches from memory by about 4mm thick) which is on 
the inside of the panel to spread the load. The 2 outermost bolts are visible 
near the ends of and under the number plate.  There  is a vertical strip of 
steel welded to the end of the towbar extension which is bolter to the vertical 
GRP behind the axle (as per diagram in an earlier note). Russ, let me know if 
you need any more photos.
Martin Scott

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From: philfi2clean cleaning
Sent: 15 July 2020 20:14
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar

i do have a 2+2 towbar ...i just need to get into my cellar and find 
itwhich i wont be able to do until saturday...ill post some pics for you

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 19:36, Darren Siepka  wrote:
I'm looking for a 2+2 towbar if anyone has one for sale or has the details how 
it differs to the saloon one (I have a bar fitted on my saloon  I can 
measure/copy)

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 14:38 russ price,  wrote:
 I tried ADS a couple times over the last few months and got no reply so had 
more or less given up on them, today i thought i would give them one last try 
and got through, they will get back to me but it looks hopeful.
Aufer Sorry to have messed you around, however if you are looking to sell yours 
have you seen the ad in classifieds looking for one.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 9:13:55 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I 
assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, 
mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Wheel alignment

2020-06-04 Thread susanandmartin
I think the same as the original Fiesta (there may be a note in the build 
manual available on the club website?) From memory 0-1/8 inch tow out at the 
front. Unless you have specialist parts you won’t be ble to change the camber 
or castor.
Martin.
 p.s. I did an article for CKC a couple of years ago showing how to measure 
using a couple of laser levels/pointers, bricks and target boards – works well 
and takes a bit of time (although quicker/ cheaper than a garage visit. One of 
the other contributors showed an alignment method using straight edges in a 
recent issue as well.

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Sent: 04 June 2020 10:56
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Wheel alignment

Hi All, Can anyone tell me what toe in/out (front & rear) camber and castor 
angles are recommended for the saloon?
Russ
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear wheel bearings.

2020-05-23 Thread susanandmartin
Jim’s method is good, ISTR there is also an alternative (from Haynes manual?) 
to tighten nut to 20NM then slacken off by ¼ turn IIRC. Jim, correct me if I’m 
wrong, but aim is to not have excessive play, but more importantly there must 
be some play. Martin

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Sent: 23 May 2020 18:21
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear wheel bearings.

Assuming the rear brakes are Mk2 Fiesta as normal on the saloon, there should 
not be a spacer between the bearings.
I can only assuming somebody fitted one as they were incorrectly over 
tightening the hub nut.

On the Mk1 and Mk2 fiesta the hub nut is only tightened enough to take the play 
out of the bearings.
Fit the wheel and feel for play in the bearings by rocking the rim , very 
gently tighten the nut until you can't feel the play anymore.
Spin the wheel and tighten the nut a little more until you can feel a slight 
drag and then back it off very slightly.
Then fit the cage and the split pin onto the nut to lock it.

Jim
On 23/05/2020 17:10, russ price wrote:
Changing the drums on the saloon i was surprised to find a solid spacer between 
the 2 bearings. I  have come across 'crush tubes' between bearings and solid 
spacers with shims to get correct bearing play but it's hard to imagine Ford 
drums were made so precise as to be able to use a spacer without shims. With 
the new drums and  the spacer in place there is too much play in the bearings, 
in a non covid world i would probably go to the local workshop get 10 thou 
taken off and shim as needed, however with covid it's not an option, i can't 
see why they are needed so can any one tell me why leaving them out would be a 
bad idea ?
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RE: [Quantum Owners] New large disc conversion

2020-05-13 Thread susanandmartin
Surprising (or maybe not, due to parts OEM parts suppliers making parts as 
‘stock’ as possible?). I treated our Ford Ka+ (5-door Ka made in India) to new 
discs/pads last year. Most of the parts on the car are ex-Fiesta, so when I 
enquired about replacement parts I was shocked to find Ka+ Pads at £150 a pair, 
discs similar price (even unknown brands from factors). Some online digging 
around found the parts were indeed the same dimensions as the fiesta ones, and 
Ferodo discs/pads at £68 total were used. I suspect the cost from Main dealer 
including fitting (which took me 45 mins) would be close to £800? 

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From: dar...@siepka.me.uk
Sent: 13 May 2020 13:09
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] New large disc conversion

I have worked out a large disc conversion for 2+2 and saloon using recent model 
parts.you need 15" or larger wheels to fit the 280mm discs!!

The conversion is very simple, needing only two modifications!.

Parts needed.
Discs
Adc1280/dsk3118 or ndb1906.
These are ford ecosport 1.5d 2013 on.

Or you can use nbd207,
 these are ford sierra/escort cosworth 4x4, note must be 4x4 as they only 
fitted these to that model.

Calipers
I used 
2007 volvo s40 300mm.
But these calipers are also fitted to volvo v70, s80, s60 and c70, also ford 
focus mk3(11-), some mk2(05-11) and cmax.

BUT they must be from the 300mm disc models!!!
Do NOT get 278mm calipers as they won't work. The caliper mounting has 300 cast 
into it for identification.

How to fit.
All that is needed is to drill out the holes in the hub to 12.2mm to clear the 
caliper bolts which are 12mm(the old fiesta are 10mm)
Thats it!hose fits as normal, discs go straight on and with the hole opened so 
do the calipers.
Note, if you use the cosworth disc you need a 5-6mm spacer between the caliper 
and hub lug to correct the disc offset.

As usual, use of this information comes with no warranties or liability.
Please check your wheels and other clearance beforehand.
 Magazine editor add this to the magazine if you please.

Enjoy and stay safe

Darren Siepka

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Electroplating.

2020-04-27 Thread susanandmartin
Have you a blow-lamp, some flux and solder?  I’ve successfully ‘plated’ parts 
using this method. It requires that the part doesn’t have a large mass though, 
as it will draw too much heat to make the ‘plating’ possible.
Martin Scott

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 27 April 2020 08:36
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Electroplating.

Does anybody happen to have a home Zinc Electroplating setup ?
I have a part a small mild steel part (about 25 x 20 x 60 mm OD ) i’ve made for 
003 that could really do with electroplating rather than painting.
Need it done ASAP so i can continue the assembly.
 
I can send it to you by DPD and arrange for it to come back the same way.
 
The electroplating setup is on my to buy list but at the moment i don’t really 
have space to store all the buckets of chemicals and there is only this 1 part 
i need to do.
 
Many thanks,
 
Jim
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] QOC Website

2020-04-15 Thread susanandmartin
That’s correct …. It can lead to an addiction of building cars that has no 
known cure! 
Martin

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Sent: 15 April 2020 13:10
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] QOC Website

Hi Steve.

Norton blocked the link saying it's a known dangerous site

Chris G


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From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:36 AM
To: QOC Google Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] QOC Website

I hope everyone is staying safe and well during these difficult times.

As I am currently isolating too far away from my cars I have extra time on
my hands at weekends. Therefore I took the opportunity over the bank
holiday to upgrade the operating system that the club website is hosted
from. This allowed me to upgrade the website security to support the latest
encryption algorithms.

This should not cause any issues if you keep your systems updated, but
please take a look at https://www.quantumowners.club and let me know if you
have any issues accessing it.

Regards,
Steve


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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Quantum 2+2 Brakes advise please (and fan switch!)

2020-04-07 Thread susanandmartin
I don’t know for certain, but given my experience of QH parts, their quality 
isn’t what it used to be. I fitted a genuine QH track control arm to my Rickman 
Ranger, and it had terrible play within less than 2000 miles – It was worse 
than the other side which was probably original, but certainly over 11 years 
old because I’d never changed it. The vendor (a respected classic parts dealer) 
confirmed the part was from a genuine source, and refunded me. I bought ‘first 
line’ ones (available from local motor factor) and they have been ok so far 
(about 5k miles). I recently bought new Ferodo discs and pads (via Germany) for 
my Wife’s Ford Ka+, as I didn’t want to buy an unknown brand. Doing some 
research, it appears Ferodo are still a UK, family-owned company!
Martin Scott

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From: Dave English
Sent: 07 April 2020 11:22
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Quantum 2+2 Brakes advise please (and fan switch!)

Hi James.

I know your car is a 1600 so I'm guessing it's XR2 based with vented discs. My 
early build manual for the 2+2 says to use 17.5mm cylinders (OE number 
1630360). These would normally be fitted to non-XR2 Fiestas with rear brake 
compensators.

The 2+2 manual also says to use the rear compensators with these cylinders. As 
I started building mine before the manual came out and was working from the 
Saloon manual, I never fitted the compensators but I still use the 17.5mm 
cylinders.

So, if you've vented discs at the front, use 17.5mm cylinders at the back, with 
or without the rear compensators.

As far as I'm aware Ferrodo are still fine, I usually get my brakes from 
Halfords or Exhausts Unlimited and haven't had any problems.
Discs - a quick look on E-bay came up with Mintex and QH discs for less than 
£30 a pair and Burton Power do a pair for £36 + postage.

As for the switch problem, sorry, I can't help. I have a 24" 'Breaker' bar and 
a single hex, double depth socket, so when I changed my switch, it didn't 
resist for long!
For it's replacement, look for a switch with a 103-98 degree range (or there 
about). I fitted the (supposedly also correct) 95-88 one and it's too low with 
an 88 degree thermostat.

Regards
Dave English
Q2-009
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2+2 Brakes advise please (and fan switch!)

2020-04-06 Thread susanandmartin
I finally managed to open the parts file I had (I wish Microsoft wouldn’t 
change things when I get a different computer!
My car is a saloon, and may not be the same as the 2+2 due to weight 
distribution.
It uses 15mm ones, which are Diesel Fiesta. Part number is off my list, which 
from the RH column suggests all Fiestas except XR2 are 17.5mm

Rear Brake Cylinder
84FB
2261
AC
1630359
Fiesta Diesel 1.6 part 15mm Dia (XR2 is 20mm- others 17.5)

I got another pair (a5mm diesel)  off ebay last year because mine seized up 
(lack of use!)
My car passed SVA with this set -up (It has the G valves near wheelarch)
My best suggestion is to pop a cylinder out of yours and measure it with 
Vernier to find diameter and buy the same. 
Hope that makes sense, Martin Scott

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From: 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 06 April 2020 13:42
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2+2 Brakes advise please (and fan switch!)

Hiya folks

I am after some advise please?  I am looking to change the rear brake cylinders 
on Q2-002 as I have a very minor weep issue, I have read both the build 
manuals, and both state that these are not standard Fiesta parts.  The late 
build manual says 'change the rear wheel cylinders to the correct size, new 
ones are supplied in the kit', and the original build manual says '17.5mm for 
Vented Front discs, and 15mm for solid front discs, this is not the same on any 
other Fiesta'... 

Does anyone know of the correct parts please, and also are Ferrodo still the 
brake shoe brand of choice, or is there anything more suitable?  Also I may 
change the front discs / pads as I am not going anywhere fast (pun intended!), 
is there anything to look out for on these in terms of brand etc?

Finally - the fan control switch has failed, I have a new one to fit, but no 
amount of socket work will shift it, and I am heading for causing damage - any 
recommendations for where and how to fit an new switch to the cooling system, 
or should i just fit a manual switch on the dashboard?

Hope you are all keeping safe, and best regards

James T
Q2-002
www.bostin.photography

 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fiesta front indicators intermittent

2020-03-21 Thread susanandmartin
Some of the parts suppliers eg vehicle Wiring product, Autosparks, etc have 
bulb holders which may be useful.

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From: Ken Needham
Sent: 21 March 2020 12:56
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fiesta front indicators intermittent

Hi, I have again encountered issues with the front indicators being 
intermittent or failing just before the MOT is due.
I have identified the issue is down to the bulb mount which is a plastic plug 
and twist fixing but these parts seem to be very rare particularly in good 
condition.
The indicator lenses seem to be easy to obtain but more often than not do not 
have the bulb mount included.
I have found that the problem is actually down to corrosion of contacts within 
the moulding.
I have successfully “fixed” three bulb holders now by using a Dremel with a 
cutting disk to remove 
A small piece of the plastic where the plastic is adjacent to the internal 
contact.
The contact is actually made by the feed wire being pushed in from the rear and 
sliding against the metal strip that goes up the bulb location. The Wire has an 
end on it preventing the wire being pulled out from the rear.
Having cut away the plastic, the wire can be removed and a new wire soldered 
onto the cleaned metal strip.

I have also found a part that could be used to get out of trouble but it is not 
a perfect replacement fit on Ebay.
Replacement Bulb Holder Connector PY21W Indicator Turn Sigal Light BAU15S 581
( 332007381360 )
This part is slightly smaller in diameter and has 4 location tags rather that 
the Fiesta 3. By cutting one of the tags off  a reasonable fixing can be made.

Hope that may help

Ken

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh Kit Car Show postponed

2020-03-20 Thread susanandmartin
Talking of which – was the Land Rover servo suitable?

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 20 March 2020 19:54
To: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh Kit Car Show postponed

I didn't arrange it so i had longer to finish 003, honest.

Jim

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Just looked at the Stoneleigh Kit Car web site. It won’t be a huge surprise, 
there is a message stating the show has been postponed (New date yet to be 
confirmed).
 
Keep safe
 
Chris
 
 
 
From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Derek Clews
Sent: 14 March 2020 14:05
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel hose
 
Thought we needed to get the ethanol resistant hose these days.   I have bought 
and fitted SAEJ30 R9 hose.  The R6 got eaten relatively quickly.  
 
Derek
 



On 14 Mar 2020, at 10:15, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
 wrote:
 
Geoff,
 
This blog has a good explanation and links that might be useful.
 
https://blog.heritagepartscentre.com/blog/2014/05/15/e10-fuelling-speculation/
 
Regards,
Steve
 
On 13 March 2020 17:15:35 Geoff Ward  wrote:
Hi, Does anyone have any recommendations on where to purchase good quality fuel 
hose. Needs to be suitable for unleaded, fuel injection and last longer than a 
year or two!
 
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel hose

2020-03-13 Thread susanandmartin
May be worth trying Car Builder Solutions – they give a spec sheet for IVA 
purposes (don’t know if it’s automatic or you have to request it), or they may 
even be on the website? They were very helpful when I wanted fuel filler hose.
Martin Scott

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From: Geoff Ward
Sent: 13 March 2020 17:15
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel hose

Hi, Does anyone have any recommendations on where to purchase good quality fuel 
hose. Needs to be suitable for unleaded, fuel injection and last longer than a 
year or two!

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

2020-03-13 Thread susanandmartin
I’ll be interested to know the outcome. Mine fitted straight on, and there was 
no need to even alter the position of the acorn nut on the centre. Had it 
fitted in a couple of hours, just had to ‘adjust’ the bundy pipes a little!
Martin Scott

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 13 March 2020 12:07
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

Thanks Martin,
One should be arriving Monday.
 
Jim
 
 
From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 12:05 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
When I ‘took the chance’ on purchasing the Land Rover one (I struggled to get 
any info off suppliers) I took the chance on the basis that I could send it 
back for less than £10 if it really wasn’t suitable.
Martin Scott
 
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 13 March 2020 09:34
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Thank you Martin,
I measured the existing one at 565mm circumference around the seam which equals 
about 180mm dia.
The stud spacing match within measurement error.
 
Looks like a goer.
 
Jim
 
 
 
 
From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 7:38 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Dimensions of Land rover Defender servo…
Circumference 590mm (body) 630 (folded seam). So I guess 7.5 inches body or 
maybe 7 inch diaphragm? 
The mounting studs for bracket 4 studs on a square, side c/c 88mm 3 ½ inches?
2 mounting studs for master cylinder 83mm c/c (3 ¼ inches) 
“Thickness” 85mm
All dimension approx. (using a metal tape), I can try to get the Vernier on it 
for more accuracy if required, and also send a photo if needed.
It’s surprisingly difficult to measure in situ! Hope that all makes sense.
Part number is STC1816 (series 3  - not defender, please forgive my memory). 
Cost was 59.95, and I got free postage by adding a brake nut for 70p thus 
avoiding several £ carriage . Britpart is the manufacturer (from most land 
rover stockists), with IIRC 3 year warranty, the ‘genuine Land Rover’ part was  
nearly £300 with 1 year warranty – evidence on the ‘net that they are the same 
part in different packaging! I used a set screw m10 and copper washer to fill 
an unused thread in the body (believe it’s for a switch/sensor? On the land 
Rover). You are correct that the Rickman used a mk2 escort servo. This works 
just as well.
Martin
 
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 11 March 2020 16:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Hi Rob,
 
I will measure it tonight.
 
Thank you, 
 
Jim
 
 
From: rob hancock 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:18 PM
To: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Hi jim 
Can you send me the diameter, i may have one here
Regards rob 
 
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 12:06 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
Hi All,
The servo for Mk1 Quantum 003 has turned out to be seized (never come across 
that before).
We are trying to get it finished for Stoneleigh, does anybody have a spare that 
they would part with ?
It has to be from a Mk1 Fiesta as it’s a smaller diameter body and there is no 
space for the larger Mk2 one (not that they are easy to find either).
 
Many thanks,
 
Jim
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

2020-03-13 Thread susanandmartin
When I ‘took the chance’ on purchasing the Land Rover one (I struggled to get 
any info off suppliers) I took the chance on the basis that I could send it 
back for less than £10 if it really wasn’t suitable.
Martin Scott

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 13 March 2020 09:34
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

Thank you Martin,
I measured the existing one at 565mm circumference around the seam which equals 
about 180mm dia.
The stud spacing match within measurement error.
 
Looks like a goer.
 
Jim
 
 
 
 
From: susanandmartin 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 7:38 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Dimensions of Land rover Defender servo…
Circumference 590mm (body) 630 (folded seam). So I guess 7.5 inches body or 
maybe 7 inch diaphragm? 
The mounting studs for bracket 4 studs on a square, side c/c 88mm 3 ½ inches?
2 mounting studs for master cylinder 83mm c/c (3 ¼ inches) 
“Thickness” 85mm
All dimension approx. (using a metal tape), I can try to get the Vernier on it 
for more accuracy if required, and also send a photo if needed.
It’s surprisingly difficult to measure in situ! Hope that all makes sense.
Part number is STC1816 (series 3  - not defender, please forgive my memory). 
Cost was 59.95, and I got free postage by adding a brake nut for 70p thus 
avoiding several £ carriage . Britpart is the manufacturer (from most land 
rover stockists), with IIRC 3 year warranty, the ‘genuine Land Rover’ part was  
nearly £300 with 1 year warranty – evidence on the ‘net that they are the same 
part in different packaging! I used a set screw m10 and copper washer to fill 
an unused thread in the body (believe it’s for a switch/sensor? On the land 
Rover). You are correct that the Rickman used a mk2 escort servo. This works 
just as well.
Martin
 
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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 11 March 2020 16:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Hi Rob,
 
I will measure it tonight.
 
Thank you, 
 
Jim
 
 
From: rob hancock 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:18 PM
To: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Hi jim 
Can you send me the diameter, i may have one here
Regards rob 
 
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 12:06 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
Hi All,
The servo for Mk1 Quantum 003 has turned out to be seized (never come across 
that before).
We are trying to get it finished for Stoneleigh, does anybody have a spare that 
they would part with ?
It has to be from a Mk1 Fiesta as it’s a smaller diameter body and there is no 
space for the larger Mk2 one (not that they are easy to find either).
 
Many thanks,
 
Jim
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

2020-03-12 Thread susanandmartin
So very similar to the land Rover one.
Martin Scott

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

Hi Rob,
The dia is about 185mm
 
Many thanks,
 
Jim
 
 
From: rob hancock 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:18 PM
To: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Hi jim 
Can you send me the diameter, i may have one here
Regards rob 
 
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 12:06 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
Hi All,
The servo for Mk1 Quantum 003 has turned out to be seized (never come across 
that before).
We are trying to get it finished for Stoneleigh, does anybody have a spare that 
they would part with ?
It has to be from a Mk1 Fiesta as it’s a smaller diameter body and there is no 
space for the larger Mk2 one (not that they are easy to find either).
 
Many thanks,
 
Jim
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

2020-03-11 Thread susanandmartin
Dimensions of Land rover Defender servo…
Circumference 590mm (body) 630 (folded seam). So I guess 7.5 inches body or 
maybe 7 inch diaphragm? 
The mounting studs for bracket 4 studs on a square, side c/c 88mm 3 ½ inches?
2 mounting studs for master cylinder 83mm c/c (3 ¼ inches) 
“Thickness” 85mm
All dimension approx. (using a metal tape), I can try to get the Vernier on it 
for more accuracy if required, and also send a photo if needed.
It’s surprisingly difficult to measure in situ! Hope that all makes sense.
Part number is STC1816 (series 3  - not defender, please forgive my memory). 
Cost was 59.95, and I got free postage by adding a brake nut for 70p thus 
avoiding several £ carriage . Britpart is the manufacturer (from most land 
rover stockists), with IIRC 3 year warranty, the ‘genuine Land Rover’ part was  
nearly £300 with 1 year warranty – evidence on the ‘net that they are the same 
part in different packaging! I used a set screw m10 and copper washer to fill 
an unused thread in the body (believe it’s for a switch/sensor? On the land 
Rover). You are correct that the Rickman used a mk2 escort servo. This works 
just as well.
Martin

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Sent: 11 March 2020 16:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

Hi Rob,
 
I will measure it tonight.
 
Thank you, 
 
Jim
 
 
From: rob hancock 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:18 PM
To: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003
 
Hi jim 
Can you send me the diameter, i may have one here
Regards rob 
 
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 12:06 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
Hi All,
The servo for Mk1 Quantum 003 has turned out to be seized (never come across 
that before).
We are trying to get it finished for Stoneleigh, does anybody have a spare that 
they would part with ?
It has to be from a Mk1 Fiesta as it’s a smaller diameter body and there is no 
space for the larger Mk2 one (not that they are easy to find either).
 
Many thanks,
 
Jim
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

2020-03-11 Thread susanandmartin
Hi Jim,
I used a Land Rover Defender one to replace the one on my Rickman, IIRC it’s 
about 6.5 inch diameter (It had to be small ‘cos the Escort one was similarly 
small! ) It was only £60 brand new and as these were mostly supplied by Girling 
or similar, the manufacturer’s changed as little as possible to be able to sell 
a product for another vehicle. I can take some measurements eg c/c of master 
cylinder bolts and c/c any ‘layout’ of bracket mounting bolts. Martin

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

Hi All,
The servo for Mk1 Quantum 003 has turned out to be seized (never come across 
that before).
We are trying to get it finished for Stoneleigh, does anybody have a spare that 
they would part with ?
It has to be from a Mk1 Fiesta as it’s a smaller diameter body and there is no 
space for the larger Mk2 one (not that they are easy to find either).
 
Many thanks,
 
Jim
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

2020-02-11 Thread susanandmartin
I made moulds for mine using aluminium, and then used GRP to make the finished 
parts– I think I kept the aluminium moulds somewhere. If you wax your aluminium 
ones( or tape them) you may be able to make GRP ones off them?
Martin

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Sent: 11 February 2020 13:44
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had used 
steel self tappers to hold it on.
The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless rivnuts.
 
Chris G
 
From: Derek Clews 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
 
My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off.  
(Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   
 
My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  
 
Derek
 


On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:
 
I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
puddle to splash up there and enter the car.
 
Jim
 
 
 
From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
 
Hi Derek et al
 
My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not found 
any downside to that. 
 
Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during a 
full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 
 
http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6
 
 
As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if stainless 
fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, with a 
cutting disc on an angle grinder.
 
Best regards
Bill 

 
 
On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews  
wrote: 
 
 
Dear All,
 
Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  
 
What have you done?  What is the best?  
 
Cheers
 
Derek
 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

2020-02-10 Thread susanandmartin
I used the minimum of self-tappers for mine which (mostly) wedge into position, 
so If I recall only 3 screws. Were yours supplied with the kit? I had to make 
my own.
Martin

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From: Derek Clews
Sent: 10 February 2020 18:33
To: Quantum Owners Club
Cc: Derek Clews
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Dear All,

Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  

What have you done?  What is the best?  

Cheers

Derek

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RE: [Quantum Owners] New car effect

2020-02-09 Thread susanandmartin
I don’t intend to part with Quantum (Last Chance Saloon), but find it a little 
irritating that the old Rickman Ranger gets more interest than the Quantum – 
Indeed looking at values the Rickman could possibly raise more cash if they 
were both offered for sale. I prefer to enjoy the cars for what they are, and 
don’t place much importance on the value (aside from the danger of it being 
written of by insurance issue if anything happened). I’ve lost interest in any 
Classic Car mags of late because they all seem to have headlines of “which cars 
are the best investment to go for this year?” or similar.
New product from Quantum will be great to see, and there are also other new 
cars and body kits due to emerge from other manufacturers in 2020 – With the 
return of Newark Show as well, this could see an upsurge in Kit Car interest?
Martin
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From: Derek Clews
Sent: 09 February 2020 16:44
To: Quantum Owners Forum
Cc: Derek Clews
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] New car effect

I have been followed home in both the Q Coupe and the Avion so the other driver 
could ask about them.  

Sorry not a Quantum story really.  But I went to the pub in the Avion and 
parked right at the back out of the way.  When I came out there was a Ferrari 
parked next to it and a father and son looking at the Avion, ignoring the 
Ferrari.  They preceded to ask me all about it and showed no interest in the F. 
 (I was still interested in it, though) But I suppose you don’t often see some 
nit with a car that has no roof, door or windscreen these days!  

But the funniest one was an offer to buy the Avion.  The first unsolicited 
offer was while I was waiting to SVA it

Interestingly, I would also have said cheap insurance.  Until this week.  The 
only production car we have is a Jag XF.  It has now reached 10 years old and 
Adrian Flux came up with a 37% decrease in premium over last year to £245!  
That is cheaper than the Q Coupe last year.  See what that comes to next time, 
but it has been going up each year.

Derek



On 9 Feb 2020, at 16:26, Darren Siepka  wrote:

Yes I agree , I intend to keep my Q's especially in view of the low cost 
insurance and the tax exemption ( one is the other two in 2025)

There is one other factor that is priceless,
Parked up near some very classy expensive OEM cars and getting asked "wow what 
is that ? Looks smart! "

Darren

On Sun, 9 Feb 2020, 14:26 Derek Clews,  wrote:
HI All,

Interesting to hear about the new kits that may be coming to market.  I did 
wonder what the effect of that may be on our existing ones?  Change the resale 
value?  Raise awareness at least?

I have built two (and a half) Kits. But I wondered who would buy and build 
them?  I personally used my 2+2 that I built as a regular car and commuted in 
it since 2001. And then the coupe also when finished off.  We have now retired 
and we do not need 2 (or 3) regular cars anymore.  I plan to keep mine on the 
road and use them at this point.  

I also have a very impractical Blackjack Avion for fine days.  I note that the 
trend in Kits is for the more outrageous and impractical kits to keep their 
value and more practical ones to behave like production cars and devalue.  I 
have certainly been offered as much as it cost to build for my Avion and I 
think with a bit of effort I could get a some more.  

It has been a sore topic of discussion just how little Q’s seem to be worth 
secondhand.  Certainly a lot less than their non-rusting practicality.  I did 
for a while consider selling all three of my kits and building one other as a 
replacement.  In the end I decided that cars are not the place to put any money 
in retirement and I would spend on other things and keep what I had serviceable 
with slow-time rebuilds, using SORN to keep costs down.  

What do you think?  

ATB

Derek

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Radiator repalcement questions

2020-02-07 Thread susanandmartin
>From memory (which may be correct) if you want to have the fan switch on at a 
>lower temp the diesel switch is the one to use

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To: Quantum Owners Club
Cc: Derek Clews
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Radiator repalcement questions

Dear All,

Need to replace the coupe radiator as it is split.  Items available on ebay and 
elsewhere. 

Looking at the job it looks like you have to remove the nose cone to replace 
it.  Or do you know of a way to get round that?

While the coolant system is empty I thought I would replace the thermostat and 
fan switch and check the wiring as they are relatively cheap and both seem to 
give regular trouble over the medium term.  Also thought I should run a manual 
fan switch for summer traffic queues peace of mind as well.  

The Haynes manual has the spec for the thermostat temperature (opening 85C to 
89C) but not the fan switch temperature.  I am looking at Lucas SNB710.  The 
part seems to be the right fan switch and is says from 103C and to 98C which 
sounds fine but others I found were lower figures and of doubtful parentage!  
Can anyone confirm the right temperatures?


I know the instrument is not very accurate, but what temperature is the start 
of the red arc on the top of the ford temp gauge?  I now have an infrared 
thermometer and can do some proper checking. 

Thanks


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RE: [Quantum Owners] New ANC/Quantum Cars

2020-02-02 Thread susanandmartin
Just chop the roof off!
 Jeremy Clarkson (like him or loathe him?) quoted “the only person who looked 
‘correct’ in the rear seat of a convertible was Hitler!”  
Hope nobody’s offended by that (my words, not Jeremy’s)
Martin

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To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] New ANC/Quantum Cars

Looks like I'll have to carry on looking for a 4 seat convertible to build 
then.  : )

Dave English
Q2009

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[Quantum Owners] New ANC/Quantum Cars

2020-02-01 Thread susanandmartin
Others may have already seen the exciting news that there are 2 be a coupe and 
convertible (I think that’s the meaning of Barchetta ) jointly developed by 
ANC and Quantum appearing during the Year. Great news!
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Front bushing source

2020-01-24 Thread susanandmartin
How do companies arrive at a name like that?  

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From: dar...@siepka.me.uk
Sent: 24 January 2020 19:28
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Front bushing source

I just ordered some replacement bushings for my 2+2 tie bars. They were very 
cheap for a complete set (per side) thought I would pass on the link
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIRTH-FRONT-AXLE-ANTI-ROLL-BAR-STABILISER-BUSH-REPAIR-KIT-OE-QUALITY-4346/263088758183?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225119%26meid%3Dd24d6aa63a8846079c8802b709d7f20e%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D263088758183%26itm%3D263088758183%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aa49ddebb-3edf-11ea-9b2e-74dbd180185c%7Cparentrq%3Ad90694d516f0ad30d317a95e3a4a%7Ciid%3A1

I have no association with the seller

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

2020-01-24 Thread susanandmartin
My Rickman is registered (correctly) as a Rickman Ranger with the date of 1976 
(as per donor vehicle) – I had to do the paperwork to change it to Historic 
Vehicle, which ISTR I did in the Post Office, who sent it to DVLA. The V5 came 
back as Historic Vehicle, and saves the VED cost each year, allowing the money 
to be spent on improving the vehicle. I’ve not gone the route of ‘no MOT’ and 
probably won’t, although one advantage highlighted is that this facility 
‘offers’ the luxury of being able to fix a vehicle without needing to get the 
MOT done by a specific date . There is of course the caveat that any vehicle on 
the road has to be roadworthy irrespective of MOT.
Martin

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From: Darren Siepka
Sent: 24 January 2020 18:18
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

Yes it was a MK1 , as Jim said I had to mod the strut tops , retaining the 
original struts though(some spacers iirc were needed) , but the rear axle was 
MK1( albeit with disc brakes)
The car ran a 5speed and hubs from a mk2 fitted after the 1700crossflow kept 
busting splines.
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 14:58 kynastonp .,  wrote:
Pre 1983 is MK1 fiesta

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Derek Clews 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:43:39 PM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt? 
 
Interesting.  So the Logbook needs to read historic?  I wondered if that had 
changed as we don’t do tax discs anymore and the whole taxing process is more 
automated online.   

Showing my ignorance here but what donor is the 1978 car?  That would be Fiesta 
Mk1?  

They certainly have changed the reg system over the years, then.  

ATB

Derek



On 24 Jan 2020, at 13:06, Darren Siepka  wrote:

To change the log book you need to apply for tax in the post office. 
Complete section 7 tax class, change to historic.
They will give you your free tax disc and send off the logbook to be changed.

All three of my quantum only have a single date of registration.all are 
correctly registered as the appropriate quantum type.
On one there is a note on front page in sect3 special notes: states 1.kit built 
converted- assembled from parts all of which may not be new.

There are no other notes or comments.
My saloon is dated 85 , one 2-2 86 and one is 78.
I don't know about the other two but the 78 2-2 I built and kept its doner reg 
in full
They all only have simple rivet on plates that old q used to issue.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 12:51 Derek Clews,  wrote:
Cheers Jim,

Good point.  I have forgotten it was as late as 1998 SVA came in.  Both kits I 
built myself were early 2000’s and SVA’ed.  My Coupe (which I did not build) 
has a single 1986 age.  On the tax free issue, you get road tax online. And you 
have to apply for it as usual but pay nothing.  So I sort of assume that if the 
reg date is 40 year or more ago you pay nothing with no human intervention?   

Interestingly my chassis number is a long format one but I was allowed to rivet 
a pre-stamped plate on the 2+2 frame and another on the fibreglass body.  That 
was Aberdeen in 2001.  My Blackjack Avion number came moulded into the 
fibreglass body tub.  That was 2004.

Derek



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>I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA
 
Except for the Xtreme’s 
 
Jim
 
 
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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:40 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?
 
I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA
My 2+2 is probably the closed pre-SVA, i took the paperwork down to the local 
VRO office the evening of the very last day before the SVA came into force in 
1998
My 2+2 is a B reg, not the donor reg but another allocated one. It has 2 dates 
on the registration, 1985 (donor age) and 1998 (registration date).
 
The trouble was all the different VRO offices had different interpretations of 
the rules.  
Mine let me have the chassis number as Q2-099 but i know many other VRO said it 
had to be a minimum length. 
I was also allowed to have my chassis plate screwed on, other VRO insisted the 
chassis number was stamped into the spaceframe.
 
A lot of older kit cars were still registered as the donor car, for quite a 
while you could get it corrected by the DVLA without a problem but nowadays 
it’s a lot of hassle.
 
Jim
 
 
 
From: Derek Clews 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:25 PM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?
 
Hi Daren, 
 
Thanks for the info.  That would seems to indicate it is the reg doc date.
 
My Q 2+2 which I built was SVA’ed and given a first registered 2001 as a 
Quantum but age related plate due to donor parts qualifying as 1989.  So which 
age is zero tax reference?  
 
Were the older Q’ss even pre SVA?  I know there was some issue about a few kit 
cars that were not registered correctly as the Kit type they became.  But my 
Coupe 

RE: [Quantum Owners] Alternator Fiesta/ Quantum

2019-11-08 Thread susanandmartin
It may also be possible to get a suitable alternator which will be a lower 
price for a popular classic car eg MGB or Land Rover

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Sent: 08 November 2019 15:59
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Alternator Fiesta/ Quantum

The last time I had to find an alternator, all the catalogue listings for 
the MK2 Fiesta had the wrong type of wheel for the belt. When my local 
factors finally tracked one down it was listed for a Granada !!

Chris G


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From: Derek Clews
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:16 PM
To: Quantum Owners Club
Cc: Derek Clews
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Alternator Fiesta/ Quantum

HI All,

Looking around it seems there may be a choice of a CVH petrol alternator 
giving 55A and a diesel one with 70A output.  Does anyone know if the diesel 
one fits the petrol engine?  If so is it worth the larger one?

Thanks

Derek

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: ST170 in a saloon

2019-10-29 Thread susanandmartin
That does sound pretty serious – I can almost hear it from here!
Martin

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From: russ price
Sent: 28 October 2019 18:27
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: ST170 in a saloon

Jim. The angle isn't a lot, i'm fairly sure i've heard  a figure of 8 degrees 
forward mentioned, i think it was just to allow the bonnet to make a more 
pleasing shape. I can't find any confirmation online so it's entirely possible 
i've got it all wrong. I'm in west wales by the way.

Martin Fairly sure it's a genuine loss of pressure, the oil warning light comes 
on and a few seconds later the engine starts to make a clattery noise.I knew it 
had this problem and had been driven, with warning light on and making a noise, 
for a few miles when i bought it.

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Back in the summer I bought a saloon fitted with an ST170 engine with a low oil 
pressure problem and other than fixing the window winder haven't touched it. 
However i now have what i hope is a good replacement ST170 engine which should 
be fitted in the next couple of weeks. When the old engine is out i'll have a 
look to see what was the cause of the low pressure but one thought I've had 
(which may well be complete rubbish) is :- could the problem be with the 
sump/oil pickup as the engine is now upright but would have slanted slightly 
when in the Focus, is the change of angle sufficient to cause a problem? Anyone 
done a similar conversion? 
Russ

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RE: [Quantum Owners] ST170 in a saloon

2019-10-28 Thread susanandmartin
Hi Russ, I don’t recall if you’ve posted about the low oil pressure before (and 
I’m using a new computer so can’t access notes from before 6 weeks ago ☹.  So 
forgive me if it’s going over old ground, but how do you know there’s a low oil 
pressure problem? I had a car many years ago which had (for whatever reason) 
been fitted with a sender which lit the oil pressure light at anything below 
30PSI, so in hot weather was a pain because it was unclear if there was a real 
problem on not. IIRC the more recent Fords have an oil pressure sender which 
gives warning at about 3PSI, so if it has the regular one the engine is well on 
the way to being wrecked if it lights the warning!  The sender (again IIRC) 
will have the pressure marked on it in pascals. 
Martin Scott
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From: russ price
Sent: 27 October 2019 18:05
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] ST170 in a saloon

Back in the summer I bought a saloon fitted with an ST170 engine with a low oil 
pressure problem and other than fixing the window winder haven't touched it. 
However i now have what i hope is a good replacement ST170 engine which should 
be fitted in the next couple of weeks. When the old engine is out i'll have a 
look to see what was the cause of the low pressure but one thought I've had 
(which may well be complete rubbish) is :- could the problem be with the 
sump/oil pickup as the engine is now upright but would have slanted slightly 
when in the Focus, is the change of angle sufficient to cause a problem? Anyone 
done a similar conversion? 
Russ

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Marlin Owners Club Forum

2019-10-05 Thread susanandmartin
My understanding is that it’s been moved to July so that it didn’t clash with 
the Goodwood Revival.
If it’s happening (at whatever date) then it’s good news!
Martin

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https://www.marlinownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?8227-Newark-Kit-Car-Show-2020=51525#post51525

A bit of discrepancy here I think
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon dimensions

2019-10-04 Thread susanandmartin
The track shouldn’t change because the driveshafts haven’t been changed, 
although there may be a minor change if the camber angle has been altered?

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Front track will be different on a saloon to any fiesta as the lower track 
control arms are from an escort rs turbo ,

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Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 10:54:45 PM
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon dimensions 
 
Hi Darren

Just looked at my Fiesta Haynes manual.
Track.
Saloons & Van:
Front - 1367mm (53.9in)
Rear - 1321mm (52.0in)
XR2:
Front - 1385mm (54.6in)
Rear - 1339mm (52.8in)

Track is measured to the centre of the wheel so different wheel widths and 
offsets will change it slightly.

Hope this helps

Dave English
Q2-009

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[Quantum Owners] Breaking news …...… It's back - be there with your Kit Car - Newark 2020

2019-10-04 Thread susanandmartin
Great news for the industry and Kit Car enthusiasts alike!!!
The Newark Show has returned 
Date for your diary 25/26th July 2020

Martin Scott

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon dimensions

2019-10-04 Thread susanandmartin
The track is the same as the Fiesta (driveshaft etc haven’t been changed) The 
easy (hopefully accurate?) source is Carfolio. The rear is narrower than front 
(by 34mm? IIRC). Wheelbase may be in the Quantum original build manual, I can 
run a tape measure over mine if you wish.
Martin Scott

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon dimensions

Does anyone know what the official wheelbase and track (front and rear)on a 
saloon is?
Iirc the wheelbase us longer than a fiesta and the 2+2 but what should it be?

Darren

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Gel coat colour code (red saloon)

2019-10-04 Thread susanandmartin
That’s what I ended up with and it was VERY dark – I subsequently painted the 
caravan with an Oxford blue which was closer to the car colour. Oxford Blue (I 
since found out) is like British Racing Green ….. there are many different 
versions . The only way is to know what RAL or BS number it is, and even then 
it’s hit or miss.

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From: John R
Sent: 04 October 2019 12:25
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Gel coat colour code (red saloon)

Seems like I will have to experiment with getting correct red pigemnt. I was 
rather hoping there would be some factory records surviving noting the gel coat 
colour on each kit sold/built - but apparently not.

@ Martin
Scott Bader still list Oxford Blue pigment code 1187 - did this not match your 
Oxford Blue saloon?

John


On Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:02:27 UTC+1, susanandmartin wrote:
When I tried to match the Oxford Blue of my saloon (to pigment the gelcoat for 
my Quantumsleep caravan) I had a small pot of the original blue with a number 
on it. I tried to match to available pigments, and even tried to get info from 
Quantum Moulding, with no luck – nobody seemed to recognize the number! There 
appear to be only 2 suppliers of pigment (Llewelyn  Ryland and Scott Bader), so 
your best chance may be to send each of them a small sample to see if they can 
match it. The other factor is that the pigments all fade over time.
Martin Scott


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RE: [Quantum Owners] Gel coat colour code (red saloon)

2019-10-03 Thread susanandmartin
When I tried to match the Oxford Blue of my saloon (to pigment the gelcoat for 
my Quantumsleep caravan) I had a small pot of the original blue with a number 
on it. I tried to match to available pigments, and even tried to get info from 
Quantum Moulding, with no luck – nobody seemed to recognize the number! There 
appear to be only 2 suppliers of pigment (Llewelyn  Ryland and Scott Bader), so 
your best chance may be to send each of them a small sample to see if they can 
match it. The other factor is that the pigments all fade over time.
Martin Scott

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From: bill
Sent: 03 October 2019 15:24
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Gel coat colour code (red saloon)

My injured H4 has a sticker saying “protec red 8205” so perhaps that another 
red to consider  
Bill
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On 3 Oct 2019, at 15:19, John R  wrote:

In the QOC FAQ there looks like there are two possible red colour codes - 
either Scott Bader 5312 Post Office Red or 5352 Poppy. It's not clear from the 
FAQ  to which Quantum models each is applicable.
 
My saloon is what I would call the "bright red" (most red saloons I have seen 
seem to be this shade). Has anyone done red gel coat repairs and confirm 
correct code.

John
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon sunroof

2019-10-01 Thread susanandmartin
I guess a GRP car is ideal for a sunroof if it can be designed so that any 
ingress is channeled away to the ground. The mk2 Fiesta XR2 sunroof had 
channels which took the water into the sills and made them prone to rust! – but 
a similar arrangement in a GRP car shouldn’t present a problem?
The sunroof in my Rickman Ranger doesn’t leak, but it isn’t opened very often, 
and is probably sealed by green moss? 
Martin Scott

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From: John R
Sent: 01 October 2019 11:09
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon sunroof

 MarcoThanks for info guys.
I have not dismantled my sunroof yet (large original type) but it is obvious 
there have been previous attempts to fix/seal it .
I am more inclined to blank it off than try and fix seals. In my experience 
sunroofs are often more trouble than they're worth. 
Many years ago I had a mk1 Lotus Cortina with large webasto sunroof which 
always used to bow outwards at high speed (so so we cut it out and replaced 
with alloy panel) - similar story with a big Marcos kit car. Earlier this year 
I had to fix the glass sunroof on my daughter's Clio so they don't seem to have 
improved much over the years! I think the only type I have never had a problem 
with were the steel sliding panel type with a manual wining handle.

John
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 overheating

2019-09-07 Thread susanandmartin
Maybe an item to be reproduced in GRP? 
Martin

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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 07 September 2019 22:27
To: 'Mark Alford' via Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 overheating

Did a bit more research and as Bill said, it seems all the plastic ones have 
been self destructing.
I guess that's why people are after £85 on ebay for scruffy alloy ones.

It seems it would be worth getting the shear off bolt(s) removed and reusing 
the alloy housing.

Jim
On 07/09/2019 22:11, Jim Hearne wrote:
That must be a very early Zetec, or somebody fitted a early stat housing.
Only the very first ones had the main housing in alloy, then it was switched to 
the same brown/black plastic as the pipe inlet.

I'm surprised there aren't any plastic ones on Ebay, but they all seem to be 
the later Zetec ones with the push in fittings for the temperature sensor.

Jim

On 07/09/2019 20:54, 'Mark Alford' via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
Not my day today... Taking care to remove the plastic housing, the bolts would 
move... Tried a little harder on one and... It sheared off! 
Does anyone have a replacement ally housing that is connected to the plastic 
housing? 
Mind you that said those bolts seemed very tight as well...
Looks like the plastic housing is available at my local motor factor.
I've attached a photo to help...
Cheers
Mark

On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, 21:42 Mark Alford,  wrote:
Hello  All 2+2 1800i Zetec owners... 
A recently new addition to our family for me; keeping my Xtreme company...
This car hasn't been used regularly for a long time 
Initially the engine ran at normal temp; then on a warm day I noticed the temp 
rising and not stopping. The fan hadn't kicked in as I would have thought.
The fan works hard wired and now works when the engine is running hot.
What would cause the temp to rise; are there any common weak points? 
Is it the water pump or ?
Thanks
Mark

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