[RBW] SEA v PDX... and the winner is...
Five of us met at a campground in the shadow of Mt Adams for the *Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble*. We got things squared away at camp and set out for the Rumble Ride. We headed up The North Fork Cispus River for about about 10 miles…. a fair amount of climbing, lots of breaks, bike talk, and we found a nice view point to hang out for a snack and some hanging out before heading back down. The Portland crew whipped up a spaghetti dinner then we settled around the camp fire until well after dark. In the morning the Seattle crew (aka Brian) was the first one up so he got a fire going and cooked a big batch of eggs. After breakfast and cleaning up around camp, Charlie had to head home, but the rest of us headed out to investigate the snow level. We figured we'd eventually be stopped by the snow and have to turn around. The snow ended up being mostly melted. We got crazy close to making the connection to connect to our 40 mile loop. We implemented the Manny Principle (keep pressing forward despite not really knowing what's up ahead and even though it's likely to cause you to be late getting home). The loop turned out to include a spectacular 5 mile descent down a jeep road. Following the ride we loaded the bikes into the cars and headed our separate ways. As for who won the Rumble… I't wasn't exactly clear. We were so pre-occupied riding, telling stories, geeking out on bikes, and generally having a great time that the Rumble part of it fell off the radar. Perhaps we'll have to do it again and be more on top of it. My pics are here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633895099178/ The other guys will post theirs in the comments --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sunday Morning Ramble.
Looks like another great ride. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: SEA v PDX... and the winner is...
Andy the wife and I loved the ride notes and especially the pics which were totally awesome! I sort of hate you in a good way cause I'm so jealous. I so want in on that kinda ride. Best, ~Hugh' On Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:27:23 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Five of us met at a campground in the shadow of Mt Adams for the *Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble*. We got things squared away at camp and set out for the Rumble Ride. We headed up The North Fork Cispus River for about about 10 miles…. a fair amount of climbing, lots of breaks, bike talk, and we found a nice view point to hang out for a snack and some hanging out before heading back down. The Portland crew whipped up a spaghetti dinner then we settled around the camp fire until well after dark. In the morning the Seattle crew (aka Brian) was the first one up so he got a fire going and cooked a big batch of eggs. After breakfast and cleaning up around camp, Charlie had to head home, but the rest of us headed out to investigate the snow level. We figured we'd eventually be stopped by the snow and have to turn around. The snow ended up being mostly melted. We got crazy close to making the connection to connect to our 40 mile loop. We implemented the Manny Principle (keep pressing forward despite not really knowing what's up ahead and even though it's likely to cause you to be late getting home). The loop turned out to include a spectacular 5 mile descent down a jeep road. Following the ride we loaded the bikes into the cars and headed our separate ways. As for who won the Rumble… I't wasn't exactly clear. We were so pre-occupied riding, telling stories, geeking out on bikes, and generally having a great time that the Rumble part of it fell off the radar. Perhaps we'll have to do it again and be more on top of it. My pics are here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633895099178/ The other guys will post theirs in the comments --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sunday Morning Ramble.
Great ride Mike, but when you see Andy's well you'll see. Best, ~Hugh On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:09:50 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Got out for a nice morning ramble on the Hilsen today with my friend John. Mileage was just short of a 100k. Although there were a few miles on Hwy 30, the majority of the ride was on fairly quiet roads with a 10 mile dirt climb up Dixie Mtn Rd and a screaming descent down Rocky Pt Road. Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633887722605/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
Meade, Was that 98F on the cyclo-computer? If so I know that feeling, Saturday rode 40 miles in near 100F weather drank lots of water. Great ride description and all the pics were fantastic. Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:34:04 PM UTC-7, Meade Anderson wrote: Saturday, Dan, Paul, and I took off from historic Scottsville with a general route plan in mind, nothing set other than to go down one side of the James River, cross somewhere and to return to Scottsville and then swing into the James River Brewery for a quick post ride recovery beverage. We had hardly gotten started but the constant hum of the Brood 2 of the 17 year cicadas began and stuck with us all day. The critters were humming, flying around, and catching rides on the bikes and one even managed to get into Dan’s helmet. We ended up taking the Hatton Ferry, the last non-motorized cable ferry in the US across the river; I had tried to catch the ferry for years but low water, high water, not operating, mechanical or whatever and always thwarted this river crossing. So it was all of our first crossing at this historic ferry and Paul even knew the ferryman, Craig…great experience and addition to a bike ride…we crawled up the hill into Buckingham County from the river bottom and somewhere along the way decided to make Yogaville our destination. The heat made us feel like we were on a pilgrimage through India but a picnic pavilion at a country church complete with ceiling fans made lunch much more pleasurable. The Lotus Shire at Yogaville with its pastel colors is always an interesting sight in rural Buckingham County and quite a contrast to the usual local color. We paid our respects and got an all too brief respite from the heat and sun and then had to hightail it back toward Scottsville because I had a dinner schedule to meet. Well, the nasty hot headwind we had been fighting all day didn’t do a 180 on us but remained constant, steady and strong at our backs. We buzzed through Glenmore and grabbed a quick break for water and calories and then hit the pavement again. My route hopped onto Route 20 for just a short distance but the traffic so fairly low and the wind perfectly behind us so we opted for speed over scenery and must have averaged about 21 +/- mph (at times much more) most of the rest of the ride which was way above our average so far. We rolled into Scottsville, threw the bikes on the car and headed straight to the best recent additional in Scottsville, the James River Brewery to sample their finest and catch some music in their beer garden. Following are a few shots from all three of us…at times different then at times amazingly duplicative. Bike content, we were spinning on a Bilenky, a Rivendell, and a Salsa…and all wearing Keen biking sandals… http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFEAs7R http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157633888398734/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157633891135960/ Meade Anderson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers
I just got around to installing the long reach Tektro interrupters this weekend. It seems to me I was correct in my assumption that the quick release works off the reach adjuster screw. The farther in the screw is, or the closer the lever is to the bar determinshow much slack is in housing you get by turning the little red knobs. On the ones I have if you have the maximum amount of reach, or the screw backed out as far as it will go there is zero amount of slack generated by turning the red knobs. I have mine set up with the screws about half way screwed into the holes and this gets me 1, maybe 1 1/2 mm of slack. The rear brakes on this particular setup are slack enough that I can get the noodle from its cradle by simply pushing the q/r button on the main brake lever (also Tektrobranded, don't remember the model number). The front falls short of this by what looks a little over 1 mm. I can twist the red knob on the interrupter and get just enough slack for the cradle to release the noodle. I can see very little that the knobs actually do. IMO they are not very good as a q/r nor as a reach adjuster as the amount is extremely minimal in either case. You DO get some, if very little of both. I haven't gotten to test them much other than a couple of trips around the cul de sac but they seem to work very well. I should probably note that turning the knob doesn't always put the levers into q/r mode. Sometimes you might need to push the lever outward as you turn the knob to get it to click into place. Also it might spring back on its own. All in all nice levers with nice feel. I don't see why they bothered with the knobs as they do very little (IMHO) . I think a 1/4 turn on the barrel adjusters would accomplish the task just as well. Now if only they modulated as well as caliper/ cantis. Best, Clyde Canter On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.comwrote: with the reach adjuster screws flush you get about 3 mm of slack in the housing. The pair I got takes a little jiggling to get it un slacked. I havent installed them yet but can see how the qr works. Untill i screwed the reach adjusters in there was no visible difference i On Tuesday, May 21, 2013, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like QR knob thingy works in conjunction with the reach adjustment screw. The farther in that screw is the more slack you get in the housing by turning the red knob. The knob is awkward to turn and I'd guess is probably more trouble than it's worth for such a small amount of travel. I might just dremel the dam thing off on my set. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Squinting, I can read QR Knob. So that's what it is. I'll have to fiddle with it to see if I can get it to work. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Johan Larsson seven.nau...@gmail.com wrote: http://howdy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/rl740.gif Should be the image in question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Jenny the AHH made it on TV
*http://nwahomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=434452*http://nwahomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=434452 Sorry about the adds. Notice my AHH in the background at about 30 seconds.I'm pretty sure she was the only steel bike and the only one with a kickstand who participated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Oiling a Select saddle
Mine came with a tin of Proofide; I assumed it was for the saddle. On Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:38:21 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Are the care needs of an undyed Brooks Select saddle any different from the dyed ones? Joe to Proofide or not to Proofide Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Oiling a Select saddle
Top and bottom of my B-17 Select got a coat of Proofide. Why would you not? On Monday, June 3, 2013 8:16:32 AM UTC-4, john muhl wrote: Mine came with a tin of Proofide; I assumed it was for the saddle. On Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:38:21 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Are the care needs of an undyed Brooks Select saddle any different from the dyed ones? Joe to Proofide or not to Proofide Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: SEA v PDX... and the winner is...
Grand adventure -- everyone wins! Wonderful trip, and some great looking road. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:27:23 AM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Five of us met at a campground in the shadow of Mt Adams for the *Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble*. We got things squared away at camp and set out for the Rumble Ride. We headed up The North Fork Cispus River for about about 10 miles…. a fair amount of climbing, lots of breaks, bike talk, and we found a nice view point to hang out for a snack and some hanging out before heading back down. The Portland crew whipped up a spaghetti dinner then we settled around the camp fire until well after dark. In the morning the Seattle crew (aka Brian) was the first one up so he got a fire going and cooked a big batch of eggs. After breakfast and cleaning up around camp, Charlie had to head home, but the rest of us headed out to investigate the snow level. We figured we'd eventually be stopped by the snow and have to turn around. The snow ended up being mostly melted. We got crazy close to making the connection to connect to our 40 mile loop. We implemented the Manny Principle (keep pressing forward despite not really knowing what's up ahead and even though it's likely to cause you to be late getting home). The loop turned out to include a spectacular 5 mile descent down a jeep road. Following the ride we loaded the bikes into the cars and headed our separate ways. As for who won the Rumble… I't wasn't exactly clear. We were so pre-occupied riding, telling stories, geeking out on bikes, and generally having a great time that the Rumble part of it fell off the radar. Perhaps we'll have to do it again and be more on top of it. My pics are here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633895099178/ The other guys will post theirs in the comments --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sunday Morning Ramble.
That dirt road sure looks smooth! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, June 2, 2013 6:09:50 PM UTC-6, Mike wrote: Got out for a nice morning ramble on the Hilsen today with my friend John. Mileage was just short of a 100k. Although there were a few miles on Hwy 30, the majority of the ride was on fairly quiet roads with a 10 mile dirt climb up Dixie Mtn Rd and a screaming descent down Rocky Pt Road. Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633887722605/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
Wow! I've always wanted to cross by a hand propelled ferry. Each time we read about it in one of our daughter's pioneer books I'm always curious. Now we know where to go, if we can time it right for the ferry's sporadic schedule. Grin. Great looking, though too hot for me, ride! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sunday Morning Ramble.
Just getting ready to look at Andy's photos. I'm very excited. Homer has actually been to Baby Shoe Pass a couple of times although the last time was in 2010. I doubt we'll be there this year in spite of it being fairly close by, hopefully in 2014. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157624965940972/ Now, off to check out Andy's pictures! mike On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:15:07 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Great ride Mike, but when you see Andy's well you'll see. Best, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Actual Tire Sizes
I'm pondering other tires too, at the moment;have you considered the Little Big Brown against the MSO and Happy Medium? How about Schwalbe Sammy Slick? On Sunday, June 2, 2013 12:49:09 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, obsessive-compulsive 650B riders, this is your moment to shine!!! You're right about the tire growth. My JB-Gs are @ 34 right now. At least the rear is @ 65psi. Front @ 40psi is still right @ 33.3. I found it linked to a MSO review I was reading. I think I'm down to the MSO and the Kenda Happy Medium to replace my ZEDs. Probably closer to the Kendas at the moment. Cheers, David On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.comjavascript: wrote: good find David. One issue with this data is that some tires grow with age. The JB Greens on my Coho are measuring 34.5 mm with abut 2000 miles on them on 20mm rims. They were a 1.5mm narrower when I put them on. One big thing not well represented on the list are 650B tires... we need more variety! ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Introduction
Very interesting - thanks for sharing. And beautiful bike, old-style narrow clearances notwithstanding. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Brodek Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 10:30 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Introduction I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm, W'ford production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow, can't see any month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know production month. Pretty sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a pm to verify, but the missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange with a deep blue head tube, built as a fixie for now. I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally nab a Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad way at all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber clearance and off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality road bike with clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost dainty. All these pix of Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel like I'm back on a twitchy crit bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and Grant's building frames now with double top tubes? Evolution is an interesting/spooky thing... I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83, then went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek Japan '90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and wool/cotton was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at SunTour, then carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing my very first Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front shift dumped the chain and sawed through several critical layers of chainstay carbon. I was honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast and I started thinking maybe carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material. Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew increasingly disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori was my first lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds 853, when I realized it was the rightest feeling bike I had ridden in more than a decade. Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my non-ferrous steeds and haven't looked back. So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've never been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been rekindled (I'm also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously jones for small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a weird full-circle thing for me because some of these builders were customers of mine or show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS in Richmond 2010 and Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque. Left behind a period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern parts where it makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals these days, no more foot retention. Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a slow upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey (BTCNJ), which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple thousand, and getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of steel out there, though, especially higher-end steel. Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride w/500' of climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll also find some other bikes, and some overly-large sets from NAHBS 2013 and Cirque: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633888172218/ Looking forward to some Rivish dialog Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein.
[RBW] Re: SEA v PDX... and the winner is...
Dude, that sounds and looks like a great time. Was it buggy at all? Sure would have loved to have been out there with you all. Looks like there were 3 Hilsens, 1 Hillborne and an LHT. There's no *good *reason why rides like this shouldn't happen more frequently with PNW Rivsters. Gifford Pinchot NF makes a fantastic meeting ground and offers so much in the way of paved and unpaved roads. While I doubt I'll spend time there this year, next year we should shoot for some kind of three day ramble in July. Obviously for folks that have the ability to do it this year, go this year. It's also real easy to ride between Gifford and Mt Rainier NP. There's a great little Forest Service road out of Packwood that's perfect for connecting the two. I imagine others on the trip still have images to post, looking forward to them. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS-Wrights Leather Saddle W3N
For sale is a used Vintage Wrights Leather Saddle W3N. 150mm wide. The Leather is as seen in the photos, and appears to be quite good . I've had this since this the 80's off of my Fuji bike , just moved it from box to box alot, so it's been used actually very very little as I prefer other saddles. USA only, unless someone wants to pay the extra shipping charges to wherever. $40 shipped USPS Priority Mail. Paypal only please. Pics: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/M45gaKdDP6xWfSDK8nU-udMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gET1R4s0zcACRFzFDUhhstMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ZVV8yuuNH0a8LDucMidCh9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
Soundtrack for this ride report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-hmhF9cn_k On Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:34:04 PM UTC-7, Meade Anderson wrote: Saturday, Dan, Paul, and I took off from historic Scottsville with a general route plan in mind, nothing set other than to go down one side of the James River, cross somewhere and to return to Scottsville and then swing into the James River Brewery for a quick post ride recovery beverage. We had hardly gotten started but the constant hum of the Brood 2 of the 17 year cicadas began and stuck with us all day. The critters were humming, flying around, and catching rides on the bikes and one even managed to get into Dan’s helmet. We ended up taking the Hatton Ferry, the last non-motorized cable ferry in the US across the river; I had tried to catch the ferry for years but low water, high water, not operating, mechanical or whatever and always thwarted this river crossing. So it was all of our first crossing at this historic ferry and Paul even knew the ferryman, Craig…great experience and addition to a bike ride…we crawled up the hill into Buckingham County from the river bottom and somewhere along the way decided to make Yogaville our destination. The heat made us feel like we were on a pilgrimage through India but a picnic pavilion at a country church complete with ceiling fans made lunch much more pleasurable. The Lotus Shire at Yogaville with its pastel colors is always an interesting sight in rural Buckingham County and quite a contrast to the usual local color. We paid our respects and got an all too brief respite from the heat and sun and then had to hightail it back toward Scottsville because I had a dinner schedule to meet. Well, the nasty hot headwind we had been fighting all day didn’t do a 180 on us but remained constant, steady and strong at our backs. We buzzed through Glenmore and grabbed a quick break for water and calories and then hit the pavement again. My route hopped onto Route 20 for just a short distance but the traffic so fairly low and the wind perfectly behind us so we opted for speed over scenery and must have averaged about 21 +/- mph (at times much more) most of the rest of the ride which was way above our average so far. We rolled into Scottsville, threw the bikes on the car and headed straight to the best recent additional in Scottsville, the James River Brewery to sample their finest and catch some music in their beer garden. Following are a few shots from all three of us…at times different then at times amazingly duplicative. Bike content, we were spinning on a Bilenky, a Rivendell, and a Salsa…and all wearing Keen biking sandals… http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFEAs7R http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157633888398734/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157633891135960/ Meade Anderson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...
how about attacking geese? I gotta bring a camera tomorrow... On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:49 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Beat, beat, and beat again! * Juuust kidding. I'll try to get a group photo the next time I ride into a pack of coyotes (as I did a couple of years ago; or rather, I rode *at* them screaming threats and war, whereat they fled. Our drougth is bringing the wildlife (bears and wildcats, besides the coyotes) in toward the neighborhoods. *Attributed to Iosif Stalin On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 7:29 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote: This beast attacked me tonight. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8548/8930655295_12d7f935e1.jpg On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:40:12 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: No, not this time around. Cheers, David On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com wrote: Rattlesnake? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday Morning Ramble.
Looks like a great ride, one day I will work up to where 100k is a ramble, maybe not in 90 degree heat though! On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Just getting ready to look at Andy's photos. I'm very excited. Homer has actually been to Baby Shoe Pass a couple of times although the last time was in 2010. I doubt we'll be there this year in spite of it being fairly close by, hopefully in 2014. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157624965940972/ Now, off to check out Andy's pictures! mike On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:15:07 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Great ride Mike, but when you see Andy's well you'll see. Best, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday Morning Ramble.
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 10:53 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Looks like a great ride, one day I will work up to where 100k is a ramble, maybe not in 90 degree heat though! I led a 68 mile ride on Saturday in 90 degree heat that definitely qualified as a ramble. It's really all a matter of mind-set: it's not the length that makes it a ramble for me, it's the enjoyment of scenery and how people interact at rest stops. This is particularly to distinguish from the sort of group ride where it's all inward-facing, all about the pack and the pace. That kind of ride might as well be on rollers, like in the Triplets of Belleville. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...
No hate mail please but where I ride at night there are giant sewer rats and I did get one once (on accident, I swear, I love animals), glad i wasnt on 22s or else I would have gone endo. Here in downtown NYC if you see a wild animal by your bike things have probably gone pretty wrong On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote: how about attacking geese? I gotta bring a camera tomorrow... On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:49 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Beat, beat, and beat again! * Juuust kidding. I'll try to get a group photo the next time I ride into a pack of coyotes (as I did a couple of years ago; or rather, I rode *at* them screaming threats and war, whereat they fled. Our drougth is bringing the wildlife (bears and wildcats, besides the coyotes) in toward the neighborhoods. *Attributed to Iosif Stalin On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 7:29 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote: This beast attacked me tonight. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8548/8930655295_12d7f935e1.jpg On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:40:12 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: No, not this time around. Cheers, David On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com wrote: Rattlesnake? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bug protection face mask?
I nose breathe all the time (except on climbs over 10,000 feet, where bugs are not a huge issue), and even then gnat clouds can give a lot more texture to the air than is preferable. But that's only an infrequent and short lived issue in the Colorado Rockies. Short of a no-see-um mesh bandana it's hard to know what would accomplish the task and be more breathable than a cotton one. Good luck! WIth abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 3, 2013 7:53:54 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: The gnats are in full season here in IA, and they're really not that tasty. Does anyone have a suggestion for a nice, breathable face mask? I currently use a handkerchief tied bandito-style, but it's not as breathable as I'd like. And everything I find online is aimed for cold weather. Please don't tell me to just close my mouth, breathe through my teeth, or just suck it up and eat them. I've tried those methods, believe me. :-) Thanks, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday Morning Ramble.
Good point. Well I took out the Piccolo and my Bombadil for 10 miles on sunday in the heat and did enjoy the scenery and my daughter's singing so we did have a good ramble after all! On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 10:53 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Looks like a great ride, one day I will work up to where 100k is a ramble, maybe not in 90 degree heat though! I led a 68 mile ride on Saturday in 90 degree heat that definitely qualified as a ramble. It's really all a matter of mind-set: it's not the length that makes it a ramble for me, it's the enjoyment of scenery and how people interact at rest stops. This is particularly to distinguish from the sort of group ride where it's all inward-facing, all about the pack and the pace. That kind of ride might as well be on rollers, like in the Triplets of Belleville. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Oiling a Select saddle
I don't know. I guess it was a dumb question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: SEA v PDX... and the winner is...
Hugh, no reason we can't do something like that down here... San Gabrials, Mt Pinos area or eve the Southern Sierras? Lot's of back roads to ride. and nice pictures Andy. Looked like a lot of fun. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bug protection face mask?
I think I'm gonna pick up a so-called buff, a neck/head tube made of stretchy thin material. I have a cold right now, so my nose is exit-only, no easy breathing. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I nose breathe all the time (except on climbs over 10,000 feet, where bugs are not a huge issue), and even then gnat clouds can give a lot more texture to the air than is preferable. But that's only an infrequent and short lived issue in the Colorado Rockies. Short of a no-see-um mesh bandana it's hard to know what would accomplish the task and be more breathable than a cotton one. Good luck! WIth abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 3, 2013 7:53:54 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: The gnats are in full season here in IA, and they're really not that tasty. Does anyone have a suggestion for a nice, breathable face mask? I currently use a handkerchief tied bandito-style, but it's not as breathable as I'd like. And everything I find online is aimed for cold weather. Please don't tell me to just close my mouth, breathe through my teeth, or just suck it up and eat them. I've tried those methods, believe me. :-) Thanks, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Oiling a Select saddle
I've got close to 1,000 miles on my (new) Brooks B 17 Select. It has darkened to a nice honey color now. But it has never stained my clothes, not even my white shorts. I have put two light applications of Proofide on, with no ill effects. Very comfortable saddle. I love it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Start the summer right. Mixed terrain June 2nd
Think Manny is still out camping so I'll start with the ride reports Normally any ride where I get three flat tires and am plagued by a saddlebag rubbing on the rear wheel would seem pretty frustrating to me, but this ride was so awesome that all of these minor problems paled in comparison to my stoke. Manny lead us on an awesome ride starting from the Fremont BART station, pretty much the southern extremity of the East Bay line. I'd never really biked in Fremont before and I was quickly blown away as we blasted up Niles Canyon to Sunol, a beautiful and fast stretch of road. Stopping in Sunol for supplies and to pet Mayor Bosco for good luck, we headed up driveways and fireroads towards Pleasanton Ridge, which seems to favorite with local MTBers. From there it was rolling fireroads and plentiful singletrack detours as we made our way northwards, through increasingly deserted lands. Somewhere in there I got the first of three flats, which seemed to be related to a bad rim strip. Popping out on Palomares Rd. we bombed the paved descent (who says you can't get aero on Albas?) into Castro Valley for a Safeway lunch. From there Manny took us up on trails around Lake Chabot and the golf course (golf balls!), where the second flat happened. Manny had to get back home to get his camping gear for the evening's S240 so he took as far the southern extremity of Skyline Dr. before dropping down into San Leandro. I lead the rest of us up Skyline and down Joaquin Miller through Montclair to the Rockridge BART station for the rest of the folks to get home to the city. Leaving the BART I felt my rear going flat for the third time, luckily there was an open bike shop right there so I bought another tube and a new Velox rim strip. Got it fixed and rode home, pretty stoked to arrive on my doorstep in Berkeley after riding all the way from Fremont, mostly on trails. An epic day all around. We had a good mix of bikes on this ride, everything from a full-on (monster) cross bike to a couple of well-setup Rando machines, and of course Manny's Hillborne. I was on my new LHT with Albatrosses and 42mm tires, and it was perfect for this ride. Pics to prove it happened, although I seemed to stop taking pictures after Pleasanton Ridge so you'll just have to believe me about that part: http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/sets/72157633902639247/ On Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:36:59 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Start the summer right! June 2nd. Mixed terrain ride. Meeting at Fremont Bart around 9ish. Ending at Walnut Creek Bart. Abandon houses, golf balls and rope swings. You know summer stuff. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
Awesome Ferry crossing! Looks like a fun day. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Jenny the AHH made it on TV
I like the guy in the background walking up to photograph Homer. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Oiling a Select saddle
I only use Proofide, and have never heard any bad testimonials about Proofide. I don't believe the folks at Brooks would make an inferior product to protect their saddles. On Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:38:21 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: Are the care needs of an undyed Brooks Select saddle any different from the dyed ones? Joe to Proofide or not to Proofide Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: SEA v PDX... and the winner is...
No bugs. The CG was about 2.5 hours from both Seattle and Portland... You could absolutely do something like this in So Cal. Bikes were 3 Homers, 1 Sam, 1 Hunqapilar, and an LHT If anyone's interested in the details of where we were... Saturday's route: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2621380 Sunday's route: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2621398 There were other cameras... I'm sure more (and better) pics will surface. --Smitty On Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:27:23 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Five of us met at a campground in the shadow of Mt Adams for the *Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble*. We got things squared away at camp and set out for the Rumble Ride. We headed up The North Fork Cispus River for about about 10 miles…. a fair amount of climbing, lots of breaks, bike talk, and we found a nice view point to hang out for a snack and some hanging out before heading back down. The Portland crew whipped up a spaghetti dinner then we settled around the camp fire until well after dark. In the morning the Seattle crew (aka Brian) was the first one up so he got a fire going and cooked a big batch of eggs. After breakfast and cleaning up around camp, Charlie had to head home, but the rest of us headed out to investigate the snow level. We figured we'd eventually be stopped by the snow and have to turn around. The snow ended up being mostly melted. We got crazy close to making the connection to connect to our 40 mile loop. We implemented the Manny Principle (keep pressing forward despite not really knowing what's up ahead and even though it's likely to cause you to be late getting home). The loop turned out to include a spectacular 5 mile descent down a jeep road. Following the ride we loaded the bikes into the cars and headed our separate ways. As for who won the Rumble… I't wasn't exactly clear. We were so pre-occupied riding, telling stories, geeking out on bikes, and generally having a great time that the Rumble part of it fell off the radar. Perhaps we'll have to do it again and be more on top of it. My pics are here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633895099178/ The other guys will post theirs in the comments --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...
*... perhaps she thought you were a 'bull-moose', but soon realized those are moustache bars... * On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:06:25 AM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: Funny you should ask. I took this photo last week on the bike path through the middle of Town, and knew there must have been a reason for doing so. Not many years ago, this would have been so mundane that I wouldn't have thought twice or considered taking a snapshot. But, recently, a number of factors have conspired to drastically reduce the local moose population. That, and the fact that I now have some bicycles worthy of glamour shots. On Sunday, June 2, 2013 12:17:00 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Would love to see if anyone snapped a pic showing their Rivendell with a wild animal in the frame. I thought it would make for an interesting thread. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bug protection face mask?
On our recent So Cal Riv ride in the San Bernardino mountains, a couple of the guys used full coverage bug nets. They were able to don doff them as we hit patches of nats, then clear air. An outdoor gear store is a likely source. Maybe Hugh or David will chime in with what they used. dougP On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:12:24 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: I think I'm gonna pick up a so-called buff, a neck/head tube made of stretchy thin material. I have a cold right now, so my nose is exit-only, no easy breathing. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: I nose breathe all the time (except on climbs over 10,000 feet, where bugs are not a huge issue), and even then gnat clouds can give a lot more texture to the air than is preferable. But that's only an infrequent and short lived issue in the Colorado Rockies. Short of a no-see-um mesh bandana it's hard to know what would accomplish the task and be more breathable than a cotton one. Good luck! WIth abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 3, 2013 7:53:54 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: The gnats are in full season here in IA, and they're really not that tasty. Does anyone have a suggestion for a nice, breathable face mask? I currently use a handkerchief tied bandito-style, but it's not as breathable as I'd like. And everything I find online is aimed for cold weather. Please don't tell me to just close my mouth, breathe through my teeth, or just suck it up and eat them. I've tried those methods, believe me. :-) Thanks, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...
You know, now that you mention it... She DID seem to be flirting with me. ;-) On Monday, June 3, 2013 10:47:40 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: *... perhaps she thought you were a 'bull-moose', but soon realized those are moustache bars...* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...
I *have* run over several snakes On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: No hate mail please but where I ride at night there are giant sewer rats and I did get one once (on accident, I swear, I love animals), glad i wasnt on 22s or else I would have gone endo. Here in downtown NYC if you see a wild animal by your bike things have probably gone pretty wrong On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: how about attacking geese? I gotta bring a camera tomorrow... On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:49 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Beat, beat, and beat again! * Juuust kidding. I'll try to get a group photo the next time I ride into a pack of coyotes (as I did a couple of years ago; or rather, I rode *at* them screaming threats and war, whereat they fled. Our drougth is bringing the wildlife (bears and wildcats, besides the coyotes) in toward the neighborhoods. *Attributed to Iosif Stalin On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 7:29 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote: This beast attacked me tonight. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8548/8930655295_12d7f935e1.jpg On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:40:12 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: No, not this time around. Cheers, David On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com wrote: Rattlesnake? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...
This is fascinating! I see all kinds of wildlife running trails. Running barefoot or in moccasins is so quiet they just don't hear me coming. I've jumped over rabbits, foxes, turkey and nearly run into deer and bear. I see much less on my bike. Tires make a lot of noise in comparison to bare feet. It's also interesting that many of the wildlife photos are in urban settings -- perhaps the animals are accustomed to ignoring human noise, peddles cranking, tires on dirt, etc.? With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, June 2, 2013 12:17:00 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Would love to see if anyone snapped a pic showing their Rivendell with a wild animal in the frame. I thought it would make for an interesting thread. I got a deer today. Not so wild, but wild. iPhone did okay. But wish I had my camera. Gotta start taking it on rides. The deer stood there as I passed him, and stayed as I fumbled around getting the phone outta my bag. Started leaving as I got the pics taken. A baby deer walked by after. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
on a 35-mi ride yesterday, we stopped for fresh peaches at a shady roadside stand. It was like manna from heaven. We made a pilgrimage to a country bike shop to see a really nice Hetchins. And yes, there was also a brewpub on the way home. On Monday, June 3, 2013 2:31:10 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: Meade, Was that 98F on the cyclo-computer? If so I know that feeling, Saturday rode 40 miles in near 100F weather drank lots of water. Great ride description and all the pics were fantastic. Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:34:04 PM UTC-7, Meade Anderson wrote: Saturday, Dan, Paul, and I took off from historic Scottsville with a general route plan in mind, nothing set other than to go down one side of the James River, cross somewhere and to return to Scottsville and then swing into the James River Brewery for a quick post ride recovery beverage. We had hardly gotten started but the constant hum of the Brood 2 of the 17 year cicadas began and stuck with us all day. The critters were humming, flying around, and catching rides on the bikes and one even managed to get into Dan’s helmet. We ended up taking the Hatton Ferry, the last non-motorized cable ferry in the US across the river; I had tried to catch the ferry for years but low water, high water, not operating, mechanical or whatever and always thwarted this river crossing. So it was all of our first crossing at this historic ferry and Paul even knew the ferryman, Craig…great experience and addition to a bike ride…we crawled up the hill into Buckingham County from the river bottom and somewhere along the way decided to make Yogaville our destination. The heat made us feel like we were on a pilgrimage through India but a picnic pavilion at a country church complete with ceiling fans made lunch much more pleasurable. The Lotus Shire at Yogaville with its pastel colors is always an interesting sight in rural Buckingham County and quite a contrast to the usual local color. We paid our respects and got an all too brief respite from the heat and sun and then had to hightail it back toward Scottsville because I had a dinner schedule to meet. Well, the nasty hot headwind we had been fighting all day didn’t do a 180 on us but remained constant, steady and strong at our backs. We buzzed through Glenmore and grabbed a quick break for water and calories and then hit the pavement again. My route hopped onto Route 20 for just a short distance but the traffic so fairly low and the wind perfectly behind us so we opted for speed over scenery and must have averaged about 21 +/- mph (at times much more) most of the rest of the ride which was way above our average so far. We rolled into Scottsville, threw the bikes on the car and headed straight to the best recent additional in Scottsville, the James River Brewery to sample their finest and catch some music in their beer garden. Following are a few shots from all three of us…at times different then at times amazingly duplicative. Bike content, we were spinning on a Bilenky, a Rivendell, and a Salsa…and all wearing Keen biking sandals… http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFEAs7R http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157633888398734/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157633891135960/ Meade Anderson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bug protection face mask?
This would do it... http://duluthpack.com/sea-to-summit-mosquito-head-net.html On Monday, June 3, 2013 7:53:54 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: The gnats are in full season here in IA, and they're really not that tasty. Does anyone have a suggestion for a nice, breathable face mask? I currently use a handkerchief tied bandito-style, but it's not as breathable as I'd like. And everything I find online is aimed for cold weather. Please don't tell me to just close my mouth, breathe through my teeth, or just suck it up and eat them. I've tried those methods, believe me. :-) Thanks, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bug protection face mask?
Hi Tim this is what I used and it worked great: http://www.rei.com/product/799982/sea-to-summit-head-net-with-insect-shield You can sort of see it draped over my hat in this pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8836388676/ I was able to breathe really well and I was able to removed and stuff into a pocket while riding. Highly recommended. Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:49:50 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote: On our recent So Cal Riv ride in the San Bernardino mountains, a couple of the guys used full coverage bug nets. They were able to don doff them as we hit patches of nats, then clear air. An outdoor gear store is a likely source. Maybe Hugh or David will chime in with what they used. dougP On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:12:24 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: I think I'm gonna pick up a so-called buff, a neck/head tube made of stretchy thin material. I have a cold right now, so my nose is exit-only, no easy breathing. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: I nose breathe all the time (except on climbs over 10,000 feet, where bugs are not a huge issue), and even then gnat clouds can give a lot more texture to the air than is preferable. But that's only an infrequent and short lived issue in the Colorado Rockies. Short of a no-see-um mesh bandana it's hard to know what would accomplish the task and be more breathable than a cotton one. Good luck! WIth abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 3, 2013 7:53:54 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: The gnats are in full season here in IA, and they're really not that tasty. Does anyone have a suggestion for a nice, breathable face mask? I currently use a handkerchief tied bandito-style, but it's not as breathable as I'd like. And everything I find online is aimed for cold weather. Please don't tell me to just close my mouth, breathe through my teeth, or just suck it up and eat them. I've tried those methods, believe me. :-) Thanks, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New-to-Me Saluki
Really enjoying this bike!I bought a new Ram in 2005 and after 25 years of riding didn't ever expect to have a bike I enjoyed riding more than the Ram, but this Saluki is challenging that. For years I read the posts and claims for the benefits of 650B, in this case Pari-Moto's, with some skepticism but wanting to try it out for myself. I still love riding the Ram and it does quite well even on dirt roads with Grand Bois Cerf tires but the extra comfort factor definitely goes with the Saluki. The Ram is lighter, a little (but not too much) quicker on acceleration and climbing, while the Saluki is a bit more stable. Equal in the speed category. They both downhill fabulously but the wider tires give more confidence. Saluki's longer TT completely eliminates the slight TCO I get with fenders on the Ram. Biggest problem has been deciding which bike to ride but both bikes very quickly feel like extensions of my mind. Here are some pics: https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A2532ODW4XTk4 I rode the bike as it came to me for a few weeks but knew I would need a shorter stem, so had to sacrifice a gorgeous 13 cm Pearl. (FS) I also liked the Mafac Levers. They are well made, very handsome, comfortable, especially standing up, and work great; but I decided I didn't want to go back to non-aero levers. I kept trying to rest my water bottle on the bars and found the cable in the way. So I figured while I had the cockpit torn apart I would swap out the 8 speed BE Shimano for 9 speed DT Silver. Also nice Superbe pedals were too small so my White/Bruce Gordon went on. But they may get replaced with Speedplay Frogs. I've never gotten 100% into Riv clipless riding. I'm going to post a separate review of the new levers and a question about a small quirk in the Specialized cranks. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New Tektro TRP Levers - Review
I splurged on the new Levers with Gum hoods. I had to swallow a bit on the price, especially since you can get the older style Cane Creek version with gum hoods for a third the price. I have no regrets. The levers come with a little insert that goes under the hood, depending on where on the bars you want them - and an instructional picture that was useless. It was a little awkward getting that on but after that the installation was a snap. The brake cable goes over the lever and you get a really good view of the hole you are trying to hit. That's important for my old eyes. The levers are very comfortable, perhaps a tad narrower than the ones they replaced but very pleasing to my hands, both sitting and standing. They pull a lot of cable, which makes set up with canti brakes very simple. They have a very light touch and a nice feature on the quick release. Instead of resetting the QR pin manually these automatically reset when you compress the lever. Again nice for us old guys who often say the Senility Prayer: God grant that I only forget the people I don't like, only bump into the ones I do, and the eye sight to tell them apart. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Crank Design
My new Saluki came with a classy, classic Specialized crank. But I kept hearing a little clicking noise when in the big ring. Eventually I figured out that the crank arm was just grazing the edge of the (Campy Triple) FD. Adjusting it made it graze the chain. I went back and forth with this a couple of times. Stared at it and considered raising the FD a couple of mm. Then I measured the difference between the tooth and the inside of the arm - 8.5mm. Raising the FD should align it next to a thinner part of the arm but would also degrade shifting. I went around the shop measuring all the cranks on my and my wives bikes. Here's what I got: Shimano 600 -10mm Alpina 11.5 Ultegra 11.5 White VBC - 15mm DaVinci - 15mm Any suggestions, short of grinding the back of the arm? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] White horse tavern
I went looking at the Riv Blug to see if I had perhaps won a Betty for Patty. As I scanned down the post on old crowns I came to a picture of the White Horse Tavern in NYC. I used to drink there when I was an undergraduate back in the 60's. There was a waitress who always wore backless dresses. It made me want to order another Black Tan just to see her walk away! Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS-650b Wheelset, Tires and Tubes, Phil Rivy
Up for sale is a perfect commuter wheel set, less than 50 miles on these wheels, both purchased from Rivendell Rear Wheel is the gem Phil Rivy Hub 32h laced to a Velocity Synergy Rim, This is a Rich Hand Built and retails for $395. Front is ok Tiagara Hub 32h laced to a Velocity Synergy Rim - purchased from Rivendell factory built Both wheels are true and round, The rIvy hub was spaced for 6spd meaning absolutely dishless. I will also include the Col de Vie tires pictured and tubes. Looking for $400 plus shipping (for US figure around $50-60 shipping cost, Canada about $35), pay pal preferred. On the Rivy hub you will notice a single speed freewheel as I was running it 2x1 with a paul Melvin, I will leave that on its easy to take off, was greased up, if interested I will throw in the Melvin for $50 no extra shipping costs. Since I am shipping anyways, again if interested I will throw in Moustache Handlebars for $35. I get clobbered on shipping them separately. Attached are photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/sets/72157633907756048/ Message offline if interested -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A little taste of the Riv magic via a Grant Petersen inspired bicycle
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jI-mm-TftYE/UawMoSZZxzI/AAg/SgYs5fU8khc/s1600/Devil+001.jpg On Friday, May 24, 2013 8:39:29 PM UTC-5, RoadieRyan wrote: Chris I would love to see your Devil but I couldn't get your link to load. I am a fan of the Devil having bought a frameset in 2009 and its been through many iterations since. Its my go to daily driver and its current incarnation is as a 1x9 with 700x47cs http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryans_rando/sets/72157633634189317/ On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:37:24 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: I was introduced to Rivendell Bicycle Works and Grant Petersen's writings almost two years ago and was very intrigued. I bought my first adult bicycle, a Trek Multitrack, in 1995 and rode it for twelve years and then gave it to my dad and bought a 2007 Trek 7.2 FX. I was riding the FX when I discovered RBW and because I wanted to test some of Grant's ideas, I gave the 7.2 to my dad and got my old Multitrack back from him. I rode it for a bit and discovered it was too small so I started watching Craigslist for a replacement and about 3 months later I scored the same year and model Multitrack in a larger size. I've spent the last year or so upgrading different components on that bike and reading about frame geometry and comparing that to the ride characteristics of my bike. I quickly discovered that my bike had too much trail so I bought a new fork with 1cm more rake and dropped the trail from 74 to 66mm. This was a vast improvement. I also decided I wanted to try longer chainstays, a lower bottom bracket and even lower trail so I started searching for appropriate frames and finally found the Handsome Devil. Handsome Cycles was started in Minneapolis by a couple of guys who work in a bike shop where there is a great deal of reverence for Bridgestone bicycles. With Grant's blessing they recreated the XO-1 and then designed the Devil as a 700c version of the XO-1. The Devil has 73 degree seat and head tube angles, a 45mm rake fork (trail of 60), chainstays of 43.6 + cm, and 70mm of bottom bracket drop. The Devil's trail is right where Grant has stated he likes it, the bottom bracket is higher by Rivendell standards but lower than what I was riding and the chainstays came out to 44.5 cm with the forward facing dropouts. All of my bikes have had 73 degree seat tube angles so the more shallow angles are still an area to be explored for me. Otherwise, this bike is a solid middle-ground between what I was riding and a Hunqapillar. In fact, it has the same basic geometry as the Legolas and the 1994 Bridgestone RB-T. I've only ridden it a couple of miles but my initial impressions are very positive. I don't feel a huge difference from the additional chainstay length but the bike feels much more stable and smooth and surprisingly, the front end feels more stable with 60mm of trail than it did with 66mm of trail. The overall stability I attribute to the lower bottom bracket (an maybe the longer chainstays) and the more stable feeling front-end I'm guessing is a result of 60mm of trail being in the so-called neutral steering range. I know I never would have take my hands off the handlebars of my Trek but I was completely comfortable riding this bike with no hands. The plan now is to eventually make my way out to RBW headquarters so I can actually test ride a Hunqapillar. If the ride quality improvement from the Devil to the Hunqapillar is equal to the improvement from the Trek to the Devil, I'll set my sights on eventually getting the Hunq. Specs: 55cm Handsome Devil Deore 48/36/26 crankset 11-28 9-speed cassette Deore V-brakes Velocity Dyad rims Schwalbe 40mm Dureme tires [URL= http://smg.photobucket.com/user/corwin1968/media/IMG_1303_zps570fc2fa.jpg.html][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/corwin1968/IMG_1303_zps570fc2fa.jpg[/IMG][/URL ] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Dropping by the Riv HQ for a test ride and clipless pedals?
Thinking of biking over and checking them out. Will I end up getting the stink eye and have to enter a big debate if I ask them to put switch over my clipless pedals to a bike for a test ride? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
Great photos and write-up. We are still waiting for the cicadas in my part of Maryland. Guess I better get ready to share my rides with them! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dropping by the Riv HQ for a test ride and clipless pedals?
Uhhh... No. As long as you don't try to convince them that they need to change, it's unlikely you'll get anything more pointed than good-natured guff. Of course, if you slip and fall on the highly polished marble floors while wearing your cleats, you won't be able to file suit. Just Ride! ;^) - Jim On Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:17:58 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: Thinking of biking over and checking them out. Will I end up getting the stink eye and have to enter a big debate if I ask them to put switch over my clipless pedals to a bike for a test ride? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New Tektro TRP Levers - Review
Michael, I enjoyed the Senility Prayer. It is a new one to me, but similar to one of my other favorites: May those who love us, love us. And those who don't love us, May God turn their hearts; And if He doesn't turn their hearts, May He turn their ankles, So we will know them by their limping. A more creative spirit than I will be able to adapt these both to cycling! PS: thanks for the brake lever write-up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dropping by the Riv HQ for a test ride and clipless pedals?
Being that cyclocross racer and clipless user Mark Abele works there, I think you'll be fine :) On Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:17:58 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: Thinking of biking over and checking them out. Will I end up getting the stink eye and have to enter a big debate if I ask them to put switch over my clipless pedals to a bike for a test ride? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Oiling a Select saddle
maybe to extend joes question, when should you use proofide, I have a 10 year old, 6 year old and 3 year old (berthoud) and have neglected to proofide any of them. I do get caught in the rain every now and then. Should I. E doing it on a regular basis? And joe having seen a select I was wondering about that too, are you supposed to proofide it first thing after taking it out of the box? Wait until a few rides? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dropping by the Riv HQ for a test ride and clipless pedals?
I was there earlier this year and a rider was taking a demo out for a ride up Diablo doing just what you are planning. Tony On Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:17:58 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: Thinking of biking over and checking them out. Will I end up getting the stink eye and have to enter a big debate if I ask them to put switch over my clipless pedals to a bike for a test ride? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
I've already received my order: One patch, two buttons, and two pins. All received in fine condition. Super fun. On Saturday, June 1, 2013 3:15:32 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: OK...so after a very overwhelming response...(THANK YOU!!)...I put my wife and daughter to work getting everything packed, labeled, stamped, AND decorated for voyage across the land! Learning curve is still in motion but I think we got it down. We did end up having to reopen and audit 60 packages after what we will call the chocolate milk incident that caused some disruption here at the factory. That said, we only identified one error and made correction. ;) If something is off, hit me up. Patches sold out. I even came up one short and sent mine to fill it. I'll get more. Some have made direct inquires that I will respond to once I get the paid orders sorted. Stay tuned. Everything I have orders for as of 4:09 PM Saturday 6/1/13 will be on the road Monday. I would like to gauge the interest in the T-shirts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New Tektro TRP Levers - Review
Thanks for the review, and the prayer, I have a set of these on a partially built up Velo Orange Rando frame but have not used them yet so its nice to hear good things about them. I found them for a semi reasonable price at ebikestop.com but I agree they are on the spendy side. I was was spending like a drunken sailor when I put together that build ;-) Ryan On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:34:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: I splurged on the new Levers with Gum hoods. I had to swallow a bit on the price, especially since you can get the older style Cane Creek version with gum hoods for a third the price. I have no regrets. The levers come with a little insert that goes under the hood, depending on where on the bars you want them - and an instructional picture that was useless. It was a little awkward getting that on but after that the installation was a snap. The brake cable goes over the lever and you get a really good view of the hole you are trying to hit. That's important for my old eyes. The levers are very comfortable, perhaps a tad narrower than the ones they replaced but very pleasing to my hands, both sitting and standing. They pull a lot of cable, which makes set up with canti brakes very simple. They have a very light touch and a nice feature on the quick release. Instead of resetting the QR pin manually these automatically reset when you compress the lever. Again nice for us old guys who often say the Senility Prayer: God grant that I only forget the people I don't like, only bump into the ones I do, and the eye sight to tell them apart. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
The cicadas in Albemarle Co., as seen in various pics here http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/ (Albemarle Co., not cicadas) have been deafening in places. They've yet to emerge fully but when I first began to really hear them a couple of weeks ago it was creepy--as if being followed. Now, I'm used to it. I remember in 1986 the cicadas were so thick on the streets that you could skid on them as if on ice. Meade: I've got to get down to Scottsville. Let me know next time you're around and I'll try and ride down there. Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 12:20 -0700, WETH wrote: Great photos and write-up. We are still waiting for the cicadas in my part of Maryland. Guess I better get ready to share my rides with them! Not necessarily. There are large areas that have been skipped this year that 17 years ago were teeming with cicadas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crank Design
It's my understanding that modern front derailleurs have relatively wide cages to allow for a greater range of chain angles without rubbing the chain, which leads to clearance issues with older, narrow-Q cranks. Perhaps using a vintage derailleur of some kind might help? -jeremy On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:45:22 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: My new Saluki came with a classy, classic Specialized crank. But I kept hearing a little clicking noise when in the big ring. Eventually I figured out that the crank arm was just grazing the edge of the (Campy Triple) FD. Adjusting it made it graze the chain. I went back and forth with this a couple of times. Stared at it and considered raising the FD a couple of mm. Then I measured the difference between the tooth and the inside of the arm - 8.5mm. Raising the FD should align it next to a thinner part of the arm but would also degrade shifting. I went around the shop measuring all the cranks on my and my wives bikes. Here's what I got: Shimano 600 -10mm Alpina 11.5 Ultegra 11.5 White VBC - 15mm DaVinci - 15mm Any suggestions, short of grinding the back of the arm? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Oiling a Select saddle
There is no consistent frequency for leather treatment, since the condition of the leather depends on so many variables. The foremost consideration is probably how often you ride your bike, but also whether your bike spends a lot of time outdoors, climate, etc. I think the best policy is to just go by the appearance of the leather.When it starts to appear dry (the color/texture begins to look mottled, and the leather has no 'pull up' or does not discolor at all when you press on it, it may be time for a little sparing treatment. Also, if you have an old saddle and no proofide (or ran out), you can make your own conditioner with beeswax and vegetable oil. Matt On Monday, June 3, 2013 3:40:16 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote: maybe to extend joes question, when should you use proofide, I have a 10 year old, 6 year old and 3 year old (berthoud) and have neglected to proofide any of them. I do get caught in the rain every now and then. Should I. E doing it on a regular basis? And joe having seen a select I was wondering about that too, are you supposed to proofide it first thing after taking it out of the box? Wait until a few rides? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS White Industries Wheelset Panceti Pari moto tires
Also up for sale is a 650b white Industries wheelset with less than 100 miles on them, these were handbuilt by longleaf bicycles and the rear hub was modified to 135mm rear spacing, seriously need to clean out my basement so these are up as well, I have another up and whichever sells first will go the others will be keepers. Perfectly Round and True Panceti Pari moto tires and tubes will go with as well as SRAM lighweight 9spd cassette 11-34 from Rivendell. Asking $600 plus shipping. Payment via paypal Pics below http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/sets/72157633906162029/ Email me offline if interested -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] FS White Industries Wheelset Panceti Pari moto tires
Pic marked private From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Trevor saxton Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 4:45 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] FS White Industries Wheelset Panceti Pari moto tires Also up for sale is a 650b white Industries wheelset with less than 100 miles on them, these were handbuilt by longleaf bicycles and the rear hub was modified to 135mm rear spacing, seriously need to clean out my basement so these are up as well, I have another up and whichever sells first will go the others will be keepers. Perfectly Round and True Panceti Pari moto tires and tubes will go with as well as SRAM lighweight 9spd cassette 11-34 from Rivendell. Asking $600 plus shipping. Payment via paypal Pics below http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/sets/72157633906162029/ Email me offline if interested -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crank Design
Jeremy is right. You could try to squish the outer cage of your FD or get one that has a flatter outer cage to start with. Old front derailers are a dime a dozen, so you should be able to try lots of things on the cheap. My mid 80s Stumpjumper has a Deore deer head front der and that same crankset. Works nice. On Monday, June 3, 2013 1:25:12 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote: It's my understanding that modern front derailleurs have relatively wide cages to allow for a greater range of chain angles without rubbing the chain, which leads to clearance issues with older, narrow-Q cranks. Perhaps using a vintage derailleur of some kind might help? -jeremy On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:45:22 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: My new Saluki came with a classy, classic Specialized crank. But I kept hearing a little clicking noise when in the big ring. Eventually I figured out that the crank arm was just grazing the edge of the (Campy Triple) FD. Adjusting it made it graze the chain. I went back and forth with this a couple of times. Stared at it and considered raising the FD a couple of mm. Then I measured the difference between the tooth and the inside of the arm - 8.5mm. Raising the FD should align it next to a thinner part of the arm but would also degrade shifting. I went around the shop measuring all the cranks on my and my wives bikes. Here's what I got: Shimano 600 -10mm Alpina 11.5 Ultegra 11.5 White VBC - 15mm DaVinci - 15mm Any suggestions, short of grinding the back of the arm? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Mid-May Tour
I took my Atlantis out for a Micro-Tour during a run of super nice days here in Washington a couple of weeks back. I've been pretty slack on my writeup and posting my photos, but I've finally got it all post. So for those interested here is the index to the trip report: http://www.spiralcage.com/rootless/?p=3208 The above post has links each day's report and pictures as well as a link to the complete photoset on Flickr. But for direct access to the proof, here is said set on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/sets/72157633504202878/ cheers, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Sam or Betty/Yves Winner!
The winner is A.R. of Atlanta! Are you out there on this list? Congratulations from one winner to another! -Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Design
The test case for such a narrow gap is the old TA Pro 5 Vis -- I hear that the new ones have a wider gap. I have an old one on the Ram and use an old 7400 Dura Ace FD, which works fine. The downside, such as it is, is that, at least with the small gap on the TA, it requires great precision in fd adjustment to ensure, together, proper angle, proper height, and proper throw, and, at least for me, I reached this precision only through much experiment. Installing an old early '90s XT drivetrain, or an old Stronglight 99 with any '80s or '90s road derailleur, on the contrary, was always perfectly easy by comparison. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: It's my understanding that modern front derailleurs have relatively wide cages to allow for a greater range of chain angles without rubbing the chain, which leads to clearance issues with older, narrow-Q cranks. Perhaps using a vintage derailleur of some kind might help? -jeremy On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:45:22 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: My new Saluki came with a classy, classic Specialized crank. But I kept hearing a little clicking noise when in the big ring. Eventually I figured out that the crank arm was just grazing the edge of the (Campy Triple) FD. Adjusting it made it graze the chain. I went back and forth with this a couple of times. Stared at it and considered raising the FD a couple of mm. Then I measured the difference between the tooth and the inside of the arm - 8.5mm. Raising the FD should align it next to a thinner part of the arm but would also degrade shifting. I went around the shop measuring all the cranks on my and my wives bikes. Here's what I got: Shimano 600 -10mm Alpina 11.5 Ultegra 11.5 White VBC - 15mm DaVinci - 15mm Any suggestions, short of grinding the back of the arm? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Design
I'm running a Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4BCD crankset with a single chainring (http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/cranksets/grand-cru-50-4bcd-crankset-mkii.html) on my Quickbeam, and I'm at a loss to see how it would work if there was a derailleur in the mix. Even an old-style Campy Record no lip front mech wouldn't fit in the very small gap between the chain and the crankarm. Mine is the first model, so perhaps they've addressed this issue in the MK II version. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jun 3, 2013, at 3:06 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The test case for such a narrow gap is the old TA Pro 5 Vis -- I hear that the new ones have a wider gap. I have an old one on the Ram and use an old 7400 Dura Ace FD, which works fine. The downside, such as it is, is that, at least with the small gap on the TA, it requires great precision in fd adjustment to ensure, together, proper angle, proper height, and proper throw, and, at least for me, I reached this precision only through much experiment. Installing an old early '90s XT drivetrain, or an old Stronglight 99 with any '80s or '90s road derailleur, on the contrary, was always perfectly easy by comparison. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: It's my understanding that modern front derailleurs have relatively wide cages to allow for a greater range of chain angles without rubbing the chain, which leads to clearance issues with older, narrow-Q cranks. Perhaps using a vintage derailleur of some kind might help? -jeremy On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:45:22 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: My new Saluki came with a classy, classic Specialized crank. But I kept hearing a little clicking noise when in the big ring. Eventually I figured out that the crank arm was just grazing the edge of the (Campy Triple) FD. Adjusting it made it graze the chain. I went back and forth with this a couple of times. Stared at it and considered raising the FD a couple of mm. Then I measured the difference between the tooth and the inside of the arm - 8.5mm. Raising the FD should align it next to a thinner part of the arm but would also degrade shifting. I went around the shop measuring all the cranks on my and my wives bikes. Here's what I got: Shimano 600 -10mm Alpina 11.5 Ultegra 11.5 White VBC - 15mm DaVinci - 15mm Any suggestions, short of grinding the back of the arm? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Design
Patrick, guess I got lucky with my Cyclotouriste. Never had a hitch with it, with a Shimano 600EX FD. I did have to change my bottom bracket to get the chainline (to get the escape gear to clear the chainstay), and I used the SK 126mm. Everything dialed right in on the first try, and never had an adjustment squirm. 8.5mm sounds really really tight, because even the largest 9-speed chain is 6.8mm - add the cage thickness, and that only gives you about 2mm adjustment freedom in the FD. OK, I started measuring gaps. - my cyclotouriste has 10mm. Even my Campy 10-speed Centaur crank has a 12mm gap there. And here's the kicker. My Nuovo Record crank would have 8.5 mm, but I have recent TA chainrings on it,and it has a 10mm gap between the chainring and the crankarm. On Monday, June 3, 2013 5:06:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: The test case for such a narrow gap is the old TA Pro 5 Vis -- I hear that the new ones have a wider gap. I have an old one on the Ram and use an old 7400 Dura Ace FD, which works fine. The downside, such as it is, is that, at least with the small gap on the TA, it requires great precision in fd adjustment to ensure, together, proper angle, proper height, and proper throw, and, at least for me, I reached this precision only through much experiment. Installing an old early '90s XT drivetrain, or an old Stronglight 99 with any '80s or '90s road derailleur, on the contrary, was always perfectly easy by comparison. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Design
I was able to run the FD really snug, with half step chainrings, 46/41, which was a nice combination on a 6-speed rear. The thin TA 144 bcd chainrings added significant gap. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aPC310011_zpse51abc77.jpg My daughter is about to build up an old Team Fuji frame this summer, and she gets this crankset, but with 52/ 41. I have the 46T outer hanging on a peg in the garage, in near-perfect shape. Here is the cyclotouriste, which also required the Cyclone GT derailleur for chain wrap. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaP3030001.jpg On Monday, June 3, 2013 5:53:15 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: Patrick, guess I got lucky with my Cyclotouriste. Never had a hitch with it, with a Shimano 600EX FD. I did have to change my bottom bracket to get the chainline (to get the escape gear to clear the chainstay), and I used the SK 126mm. Everything dialed right in on the first try, and never had an adjustment squirm. 8.5mm sounds really really tight, because even the largest 9-speed chain is 6.8mm - add the cage thickness, and that only gives you about 2mm adjustment freedom in the FD. OK, I started measuring gaps. - my cyclotouriste has 10mm. Even my Campy 10-speed Centaur crank has a 12mm gap there. And here's the kicker. My Nuovo Record crank would have 8.5 mm, but I have recent TA chainrings on it,and it has a 10mm gap between the chainring and the crankarm. On Monday, June 3, 2013 5:06:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: The test case for such a narrow gap is the old TA Pro 5 Vis -- I hear that the new ones have a wider gap. I have an old one on the Ram and use an old 7400 Dura Ace FD, which works fine. The downside, such as it is, is that, at least with the small gap on the TA, it requires great precision in fd adjustment to ensure, together, proper angle, proper height, and proper throw, and, at least for me, I reached this precision only through much experiment. Installing an old early '90s XT drivetrain, or an old Stronglight 99 with any '80s or '90s road derailleur, on the contrary, was always perfectly easy by comparison. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
the whole enchilada, wheelest and the tires together. On Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:47:27 AM UTC-7, hobie wrote: Rob what are you interested in? *From:* Rob H. robh...@gmail.com javascript: *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2013 2:40 PM *Subject:* [RBW] Re: FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset hobie, i'm interested. PM me! On Sunday, June 2, 2013 7:49:02 AM UTC-7, hobie wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
Hi there, If the wheel set is still available, I'll take it. Fred On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Design
My setup is made easier because I am running only 7 cogs with spacers at front and back. (Segue: with a spacer just behind the lockring, you can use any size cog as the outer. I plan to build a 18-20-22-24-27-30-34 six speed to use with a 53 t inner. Just kidding, but the 14-23 is great.) Even with 7, the chain on the 14 comes close to rubbing the cage. (But that's such a high gear (44/14X27=85) that I hardly ever use it.) Question (serious one): how does the quality (as far as you can tell) and the look of the VO crankset compare to the Pro 5 Vis? On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I'm running a Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4BCD crankset with a single chainring ( http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/cranksets/grand-cru-50-4bcd-crankset-mkii.html) on my Quickbeam, and I'm at a loss to see how it would work if there was a derailleur in the mix. Even an old-style Campy Record no lip front mech wouldn't fit in the very small gap between the chain and the crankarm. Mine is the first model, so perhaps they've addressed this issue in the MK II version. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jun 3, 2013, at 3:06 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The test case for such a narrow gap is the old TA Pro 5 Vis -- I hear that the new ones have a wider gap. I have an old one on the Ram and use an old 7400 Dura Ace FD, which works fine. The downside, such as it is, is that, at least with the small gap on the TA, it requires great precision in fd adjustment to ensure, together, proper angle, proper height, and proper throw, and, at least for me, I reached this precision only through much experiment. Installing an old early '90s XT drivetrain, or an old Stronglight 99 with any '80s or '90s road derailleur, on the contrary, was always perfectly easy by comparison. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: It's my understanding that modern front derailleurs have relatively wide cages to allow for a greater range of chain angles without rubbing the chain, which leads to clearance issues with older, narrow-Q cranks. Perhaps using a vintage derailleur of some kind might help? -jeremy On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:45:22 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: My new Saluki came with a classy, classic Specialized crank. But I kept hearing a little clicking noise when in the big ring. Eventually I figured out that the crank arm was just grazing the edge of the (Campy Triple) FD. Adjusting it made it graze the chain. I went back and forth with this a couple of times. Stared at it and considered raising the FD a couple of mm. Then I measured the difference between the tooth and the inside of the arm - 8.5mm. Raising the FD should align it next to a thinner part of the arm but would also degrade shifting. I went around the shop measuring all the cranks on my and my wives bikes. Here's what I got: Shimano 600 -10mm Alpina 11.5 Ultegra 11.5 White VBC - 15mm DaVinci - 15mm Any suggestions, short of grinding the back of the arm? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Design
It's satisfactory now and, frankly, even tho' my gears (44/30 X 14-15-16-17-18-20-23) give me between 85 and 35, most of my riding is in the middle cogs (60-64-70-74 is such a lovely progression), so chain rub is far less of even a potential issue. Putting 10 cogs on would definitely make adjustment harder. Oh, and 8 sp chain, btw. 126 mm bb? Mine is an asym 115 with the Ram's 132.5 rear spacing, and it works fine. You must have a triple? On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, guess I got lucky with my Cyclotouriste. Never had a hitch with it, with a Shimano 600EX FD. I did have to change my bottom bracket to get the chainline (to get the escape gear to clear the chainstay), and I used the SK 126mm. Everything dialed right in on the first try, and never had an adjustment squirm. 8.5mm sounds really really tight, because even the largest 9-speed chain is 6.8mm - add the cage thickness, and that only gives you about 2mm adjustment freedom in the FD. OK, I started measuring gaps. - my cyclotouriste has 10mm. Even my Campy 10-speed Centaur crank has a 12mm gap there. And here's the kicker. My Nuovo Record crank would have 8.5 mm, but I have recent TA chainrings on it,and it has a 10mm gap between the chainring and the crankarm. On Monday, June 3, 2013 5:06:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: The test case for such a narrow gap is the old TA Pro 5 Vis -- I hear that the new ones have a wider gap. I have an old one on the Ram and use an old 7400 Dura Ace FD, which works fine. The downside, such as it is, is that, at least with the small gap on the TA, it requires great precision in fd adjustment to ensure, together, proper angle, proper height, and proper throw, and, at least for me, I reached this precision only through much experiment. Installing an old early '90s XT drivetrain, or an old Stronglight 99 with any '80s or '90s road derailleur, on the contrary, was always perfectly easy by comparison. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Design
part of it is the 173mm Raleigh BB housing. But yes, I put half steps with escape 47/42/26 - again, with 13-27 rear. My daughter and I were climbing 9-degree switchbacks a few weeks ago, and and both 26 gears which were very handy. On Monday, June 3, 2013 6:23:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: It's satisfactory now and, frankly, even tho' my gears (44/30 X 14-15-16-17-18-20-23) give me between 85 and 35, most of my riding is in the middle cogs (60-64-70-74 is such a lovely progression), so chain rub is far less of even a potential issue. Putting 10 cogs on would definitely make adjustment harder. Oh, and 8 sp chain, btw. 126 mm bb? Mine is an asym 115 with the Ram's 132.5 rear spacing, and it works fine. You must have a triple? On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Patrick, guess I got lucky with my Cyclotouriste. Never had a hitch with it, with a Shimano 600EX FD. I did have to change my bottom bracket to get the chainline (to get the escape gear to clear the chainstay), and I used the SK 126mm. Everything dialed right in on the first try, and never had an adjustment squirm. 8.5mm sounds really really tight, because even the largest 9-speed chain is 6.8mm - add the cage thickness, and that only gives you about 2mm adjustment freedom in the FD. OK, I started measuring gaps. - my cyclotouriste has 10mm. Even my Campy 10-speed Centaur crank has a 12mm gap there. And here's the kicker. My Nuovo Record crank would have 8.5 mm, but I have recent TA chainrings on it,and it has a 10mm gap between the chainring and the crankarm. On Monday, June 3, 2013 5:06:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: The test case for such a narrow gap is the old TA Pro 5 Vis -- I hear that the new ones have a wider gap. I have an old one on the Ram and use an old 7400 Dura Ace FD, which works fine. The downside, such as it is, is that, at least with the small gap on the TA, it requires great precision in fd adjustment to ensure, together, proper angle, proper height, and proper throw, and, at least for me, I reached this precision only through much experiment. Installing an old early '90s XT drivetrain, or an old Stronglight 99 with any '80s or '90s road derailleur, on the contrary, was always perfectly easy by comparison. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
The wheelset is still for sale. My Paypal is: moho1...@yahoo.com From: yavo fyavor...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Hi there, If the wheel set is still available, I'll take it. Fred On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
Sorry I forgot to ask your zip code so I can figure shipping From: yavo fyavor...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Hi there, If the wheel set is still available, I'll take it. Fred On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
It's 19046 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM, jimmy johnsen moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry I forgot to ask your zip code so I can figure shipping *From:* yavo fyavor...@gmail.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2013 7:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Hi there, If the wheel set is still available, I'll take it. Fred On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
Just give me the total and I can pay with Paypal. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, yavo fyavor...@gmail.com wrote: It's 19046 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM, jimmy johnsen moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry I forgot to ask your zip code so I can figure shipping *From:* yavo fyavor...@gmail.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2013 7:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Hi there, If the wheel set is still available, I'll take it. Fred On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
Thanks. The total w. shipping is $170.00 From: yavo fyavor...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Just give me the total and I can pay with Paypal. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, yavo fyavor...@gmail.com wrote: It's 19046 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM, jimmy johnsen moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry I forgot to ask your zip code so I can figure shipping From: yavo fyavor...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Hi there, If the wheel set is still available, I'll take it. Fred On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bug protection face mask?
What Hugh said, although Patrick's version would be a nice back up option. Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tim this is what I used and it worked great: http://www.rei.com/product/799982/sea-to-summit-head-net-with-insect-shield You can sort of see it draped over my hat in this pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8836388676/ I was able to breathe really well and I was able to removed and stuff into a pocket while riding. Highly recommended. Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:49:50 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote: On our recent So Cal Riv ride in the San Bernardino mountains, a couple of the guys used full coverage bug nets. They were able to don doff them as we hit patches of nats, then clear air. An outdoor gear store is a likely source. Maybe Hugh or David will chime in with what they used. dougP On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:12:24 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: I think I'm gonna pick up a so-called buff, a neck/head tube made of stretchy thin material. I have a cold right now, so my nose is exit-only, no easy breathing. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: I nose breathe all the time (except on climbs over 10,000 feet, where bugs are not a huge issue), and even then gnat clouds can give a lot more texture to the air than is preferable. But that's only an infrequent and short lived issue in the Colorado Rockies. Short of a no-see-um mesh bandana it's hard to know what would accomplish the task and be more breathable than a cotton one. Good luck! WIth abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 3, 2013 7:53:54 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: The gnats are in full season here in IA, and they're really not that tasty. Does anyone have a suggestion for a nice, breathable face mask? I currently use a handkerchief tied bandito-style, but it's not as breathable as I'd like. And everything I find online is aimed for cold weather. Please don't tell me to just close my mouth, breathe through my teeth, or just suck it up and eat them. I've tried those methods, believe me. :-) Thanks, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Actual Tire Sizes
Hi Leslie, the Little BBs don't look like they have enough (any) side knobs, and the SS are listed 35mm, so probably actually closer to 32 given Schwalbe's inconsistency in sizing. I want a full 40, so the MSO is looking good! Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pondering other tires too, at the moment;have you considered the Little Big Brown against the MSO and Happy Medium? How about Schwalbe Sammy Slick? On Sunday, June 2, 2013 12:49:09 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, obsessive-compulsive 650B riders, this is your moment to shine!!! You're right about the tire growth. My JB-Gs are @ 34 right now. At least the rear is @ 65psi. Front @ 40psi is still right @ 33.3. I found it linked to a MSO review I was reading. I think I'm down to the MSO and the Kenda Happy Medium to replace my ZEDs. Probably closer to the Kendas at the moment. Cheers, David On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.comwrote: good find David. One issue with this data is that some tires grow with age. The JB Greens on my Coho are measuring 34.5 mm with abut 2000 miles on them on 20mm rims. They were a 1.5mm narrower when I put them on. One big thing not well represented on the list are 650B tires... we need more variety! ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bug protection face mask?
Buy some cheap mesh at a camping store or some place and cut into a square and make a bandanna out of it and wear it bandido style :) There is no fabric that is going to breath well enough . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
This wheelset is not 650b, it is 700c From: yavo fyavor...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Just give me the total and I can pay with Paypal. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, yavo fyavor...@gmail.com wrote: It's 19046 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM, jimmy johnsen moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry I forgot to ask your zip code so I can figure shipping From: yavo fyavor...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Hi there, If the wheel set is still available, I'll take it. Fred On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS White Industries Wheelset Panceti Pari moto tires
I'll take just the tires if they are available. Thanks. -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset
Yavo. The wheel set is 700c not 650b. Do you still want it From: yavo fyavor...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Just give me the total and I can pay with Paypal. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, yavo fyavor...@gmail.com wrote: It's 19046 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM, jimmy johnsen moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry I forgot to ask your zip code so I can figure shipping From: yavo fyavor...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: Like new Riv Jack Browns and Velocity Synergy wheelset Hi there, If the wheel set is still available, I'll take it. Fred On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: For sale: A pair of like new Rivendell Jack Browns Green label ridden 25 miles. $85.00 shipped. Also have a pair of Velocity Synergy's 32 hole o/s rear cassette, 32 hole 100mm front laced to Shimano Tiagra hubs, rear has been re spaced w. a washer to approx. 132.5mm so it will fit either 135 or 130. Comes w. Velox rim tape also. Hardly used set of wheels. $130. plus actual shipping. Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dyaRCBkL5Nc/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bug protection face mask?
Garth, I disagree the bug net I wore was fine to breath through while in exertion. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Buy some cheap mesh at a camping store or some place and cut into a square and make a bandanna out of it and wear it bandido style :) There is no fabric that is going to breath well enough . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/geNTBcZk57E/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Actual Tire Sizes
my Schwalbe 700x40 Smart Sam's are 40.7 mm knob to knob on 23mm Salsa rims. The casing measures 38.5 mm They have nice side knobs and corner pretty good on dirt. They're just OK on the pavement. Wire bead and 540 gms. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Actual Tire Sizes
I didn't see anything other than the 35mm SS. So they have a 40 as well? Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: my Schwalbe 700x40 Smart Sam's are 40.7 mm knob to knob on 23mm Salsa rims. The casing measures 38.5 mm They have nice side knobs and corner pretty good on dirt. They're just OK on the pavement. Wire bead and 540 gms. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Design
The VO 50.4 MK1 is a tight fit, which is apparently why they came out with the MK2. I'm currently running my MK1, in 28/48, with the Microshift braze-on FD. Was running it with an old Suntour vX. Tolerance with both is tight - a few ratchet clicks either way - but the Microshift is holding its position better. Nick W On Monday, June 3, 2013 3:49:01 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: I'm running a Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4BCD crankset with a single chainring ( http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/cranksets/grand-cru-50-4bcd-crankset-mkii.html) on my Quickbeam, and I'm at a loss to see how it would work if there was a derailleur in the mix. Even an old-style Campy Record no lip front mech wouldn't fit in the very small gap between the chain and the crankarm. Mine is the first model, so perhaps they've addressed this issue in the MK II version. --Eric Norris campyo...@me.com javascript: www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Actual Tire Sizes
they have a 40 and 45. Wait another month and you can have my 40's to see if you like them. ~mike On Monday, June 3, 2013 7:18:52 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anything other than the 35mm SS. So they have a 40 as well? Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.comjavascript: wrote: my Schwalbe 700x40 Smart Sam's are 40.7 mm knob to knob on 23mm Salsa rims. The casing measures 38.5 mm They have nice side knobs and corner pretty good on dirt. They're just OK on the pavement. Wire bead and 540 gms. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] RE: Ride Report - The Cicada Ride (Brood 2)...or the Hatton Ferry, Yogaville, and James River Brewery Spin...
Yup, that was 98 degrees on the computer but may not have been the official temperature of the day but it was at least the lower 90s and the first scorcher with humidity. I had a gallon cooler filled with ice then water.it's the only way to go.here's a picture of the set up from a ride several years ago with the carrying pannier. http://www.flickr.com/photos/39037425@N00/4851524483 As for fruit, I tried bananas but they had little effect however Paul had some apricots and they seemed to give him the energy of Lanc.'er some pro rider.not sure from what in those apricots.maybe it had something to do with who is better shape. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Actual Tire Sizes
I'm more than happy to take your cast-offs! Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: they have a 40 and 45. Wait another month and you can have my 40's to see if you like them. ~mike On Monday, June 3, 2013 7:18:52 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anything other than the 35mm SS. So they have a 40 as well? Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.comwrote: my Schwalbe 700x40 Smart Sam's are 40.7 mm knob to knob on 23mm Salsa rims. The casing measures 38.5 mm They have nice side knobs and corner pretty good on dirt. They're just OK on the pavement. Wire bead and 540 gms. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: SEA v PDX... and the winner is...
Here's a link to the few photos I took: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sk8_or_die/sets/72157633916462224/ What a great ride! Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: No bugs. The CG was about 2.5 hours from both Seattle and Portland... You could absolutely do something like this in So Cal. Bikes were 3 Homers, 1 Sam, 1 Hunqapilar, and an LHT If anyone's interested in the details of where we were... Saturday's route: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2621380 Sunday's route: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2621398 There were other cameras... I'm sure more (and better) pics will surface. --Smitty On Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:27:23 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Five of us met at a campground in the shadow of Mt Adams for the *Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble*. We got things squared away at camp and set out for the Rumble Ride. We headed up The North Fork Cispus River for about about 10 miles…. a fair amount of climbing, lots of breaks, bike talk, and we found a nice view point to hang out for a snack and some hanging out before heading back down. The Portland crew whipped up a spaghetti dinner then we settled around the camp fire until well after dark. In the morning the Seattle crew (aka Brian) was the first one up so he got a fire going and cooked a big batch of eggs. After breakfast and cleaning up around camp, Charlie had to head home, but the rest of us headed out to investigate the snow level. We figured we'd eventually be stopped by the snow and have to turn around. The snow ended up being mostly melted. We got crazy close to making the connection to connect to our 40 mile loop. We implemented the Manny Principle (keep pressing forward despite not really knowing what's up ahead and even though it's likely to cause you to be late getting home). The loop turned out to include a spectacular 5 mile descent down a jeep road. Following the ride we loaded the bikes into the cars and headed our separate ways. As for who won the Rumble… I't wasn't exactly clear. We were so pre-occupied riding, telling stories, geeking out on bikes, and generally having a great time that the Rumble part of it fell off the radar. Perhaps we'll have to do it again and be more on top of it. My pics are here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633895099178/ The other guys will post theirs in the comments --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Jenny the AHH made it on TV
Your bar ends at:18 also. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Introduction
Thanks, Tim---let us know how it goes. From what I'm reading here 650x32-34mm will likely work OK, 38mm might be tight. This Riv Road Std is a dry pavement bike for me. Parigi-Roubaix plump out to almost 30mm, and I find 'em mighty cushy. But it's good to know I have to option to go smaller/fatter! Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA On Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:40:53 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote: Nice. I also recently picked up an early Riv Road; mine's a '97 in the same size. I feel ya on the lack of tire clearance compared to recent Rivs. I'm going to try 650B wheels to get more clearance for tires and fenders; I'll report measurements when I get the wheels. On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Paul Brodek p...@skyweb.net javascript: wrote: I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm, W'ford production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow, can't see any month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know production month. Pretty sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a pm to verify, but the missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange with a deep blue head tube, built as a fixie for now. I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally nab a Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad way at all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber clearance and off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality road bike with clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost dainty. All these pix of Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel like I'm back on a twitchy crit bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and Grant's building frames now with double top tubes? Evolution is an interesting/spooky thing... I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83, then went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek Japan '90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and wool/cotton was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at SunTour, then carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing my very first Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front shift dumped the chain and sawed through several critical layers of chainstay carbon. I was honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast and I started thinking maybe carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material. Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew increasingly disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori was my first lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds 853, when I realized it was the rightest feeling bike I had ridden in more than a decade. Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my non-ferrous steeds and haven't looked back. So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've never been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been rekindled (I'm also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously jones for small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a weird full-circle thing for me because some of these builders were customers of mine or show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS in Richmond 2010 and Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque. Left behind a period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern parts where it makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals these days, no more foot retention. Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a slow upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey (BTCNJ), which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple thousand, and getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of steel out there, though, especially higher-end steel. Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride w/500' of climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll also find some other bikes, and some overly-large sets from NAHBS 2013 and Cirque: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633888172218/ Looking forward to some Rivish dialog Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
[RBW] Re: Rivendell SF Pop-Up Store
Manny, Thanks for the pics since I can't be there it's nice to get the flavor. Best, ~Hugh On Friday, May 31, 2013 2:54:55 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: In case you were wondering... Here's some sneak peak pictures. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFB3KS3 Anyone else checking it out on Saturday? I'll be there. Ride afterwards could be an option. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday Morning Ramble.
On Monday, June 3, 2013 8:00:57 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: It's really all a matter of mind-set: it's not the length that makes it a ramble for me, it's the enjoyment of scenery and how people interact at rest stops. Steve, well put and very true. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Introduction
Thanks, Patrick. The Roubaix Pro had nothing on any Rivendell, but the geometry was a bit more sport-tour than race, and it did just kind of disappear underneath me like no aluminum or carbon bike had. Those early Rivendells hearken back to a few decades of pre-crit classic road bikes, which is my touchstone. Back in the day I didn't really know rando-ish bikes existed, my only exposure was a few catalog pages in some late-'70s Fuji Japan catalogs lying around the shop. There were some French-inspired (I suppose?) rando/touring models in the lineup, and to my eyes they could have been designed by Martians. There just seemed to be so much darned stuff on them, everywhere, and I couldn't comprehend any of it. My outlook has widened since then. When I look at a lot of the current Rivs, I do grok them, I think they look cool, they even trigger a little desire. But they don't quite resonate as deeply with me. No matter, though, it's all good stuff, and it has been a pleasure watching what Grant has accomplished as an independent entity, relatively unleashed. Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA On Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:50:50 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Welcome, Paul; very interesting introduction. And that is a righteous Rivendell. I had an early edition Waterford-built custom road back in 1995. I rather miss the more pavement oriented Rivendells of 10 years ago. And I bet my new-to-me Ram will run circles around your Fuji. On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Paul Brodek p...@skyweb.net javascript: wrote: I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm, W'ford production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow, can't see any month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know production month. Pretty sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a pm to verify, but the missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange with a deep blue head tube, built as a fixie for now. I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally nab a Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad way at all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber clearance and off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality road bike with clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost dainty. All these pix of Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel like I'm back on a twitchy crit bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and Grant's building frames now with double top tubes? Evolution is an interesting/spooky thing... I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83, then went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek Japan '90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and wool/cotton was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at SunTour, then carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing my very first Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front shift dumped the chain and sawed through several critical layers of chainstay carbon. I was honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast and I started thinking maybe carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material. Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew increasingly disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori was my first lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds 853, when I realized it was the rightest feeling bike I had ridden in more than a decade. Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my non-ferrous steeds and haven't looked back. So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've never been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been rekindled (I'm also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously jones for small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a weird full-circle thing for me because some of these builders were customers of mine or show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS in Richmond 2010 and Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque. Left behind a period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern parts where it makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals these days, no more foot retention. Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a slow upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey (BTCNJ), which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple thousand, and getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of steel out there, though, especially higher-end steel. Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride w/500' of climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll also find some other bikes, and some overly-large sets from NAHBS 2013 and Cirque:
[RBW] Re: Jenny the AHH made it on TV
Pretty cool. On Monday, June 3, 2013 5:02:05 AM UTC-7, NWAJack wrote: *http://nwahomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=434452*http://nwahomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=434452 Sorry about the adds. Notice my AHH in the background at about 30 seconds.I'm pretty sure she was the only steel bike and the only one with a kickstand who participated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New-to-Me Saluki
Congrats on the new bike Michael. It looks great. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.