[RBW] Re: Lights on a Platy
Okay so my coffee hasn't worked this morning, I'm blaming the covid. I need to stress a point that I made in my head and not in my first response. The downtube where it connects to the headtube is the most stressed, critical part of a bike frame, do not drill a hole there. IF YOU REALLY HAVE TO, drill a hole in the head tube and go in that way. Damaging a frame and it's aesthetics with a *drilled hole* seems far worse to me than running a cable where there are already cables (my opinion). I just wrap my dyno wires around existing brake/gear cables. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ab43daff-7fdd-41e8-af8c-7c0117682b72n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Lights on a Platy
*cable guide not *chain guide*. Always proof read folks! On Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 08:59:03 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote: > There is already a hole in the BB where the chain guide attaches for > drainage. I would work out a way to use that and, like you said, drill the > hole in the seat post at the top. Leave the frame unmolested for future > owners/corrosion reasons. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/37c545c3-2a8c-4de3-aa84-88826313a694n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Lights on a Platy
There is already a hole in the BB where the chain guide attaches for drainage. I would work out a way to use that and, like you said, drill the hole in the seat post at the top. Leave the frame unmolested for future owners/corrosion reasons. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5a2e6783-9eb2-4ab0-94f7-538881799f8dn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Lights and Tariffs
Eric, thanks for posting this. I'm not sure I'd be able to comment without veering political, but I do find it interesting and educational. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Lights and Tariffs
Another related story I heard on radio today https://www.marketplace.org/shows/marketplace/09252018 If only the way the global economy works was so straightforward.. On Monday, 24 September 2018 16:33:58 UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: > > Story from today’s All Things Considered on NPR about tariffs and their > effect on Light and Motion, a well-known California-based maker of bike and > other lights: > > > https://www.npr.org/2018/09/24/651221317/u-s-tariffs-on-china-may-force-california-company-to-move-production-overseas > > > Take-home points: > > —They make lights here from parts sourced from China and other Asian > countries > —The parts they import are subject to a new tariff, but completed lights > (made overseas from the same parts) are not > —They are considering moving their assembly overseas to avoid the tariffs > by assembling the lights there and importing them as complete systems > > --Eric N > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Lights and Tariffs
Not disputing the buying power that international trade often affords us, but Busch & Muller products are made in Germany, so they're not really impacted by the tariffs referenced in the segment above. While I have no doubt that at least some of the components that go into their lights are produced in China, there's something of a courtship happening in EU and Beijing trade relations right now, so B only stands to benefit from the current goings on. (By the by, pretty please don't construe this post as intentionally divisive or incendiary, an idle defense of MUSA, or use it as a step stool for political OT, this is simply my read on What's Going On Right Now.) Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:26:21 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Think outside da box: > > bike24 in Germany has great prices on lights +20$ ships to USA. > B IQX 100lux dyno light is $63 +$20 shipping to me in USA is still $80 > cheaper than buying in USA. And I have found them to ship fast and to be > reputable. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Lights and Tariffs
Think outside da box: bike24 in Germany has great prices on lights +20$ ships to USA. B IQX 100lux dyno light is $63 +$20 shipping to me in USA is still $80 cheaper than buying in USA. And I have found them to ship fast and to be reputable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Lights and Tariffs
Another casualty among so so many these past 18 months. I have good industry pals who worked very hard to make that company what it is. Or maybe now, was. We are the walking / cycling wounded. A good long hard fast ride helps control the angst, however. So that is what we do. BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 7:33:58 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote: > > Story from today’s All Things Considered on NPR about tariffs and their > effect on Light and Motion, a well-known California-based maker of bike and > other lights: > > > https://www.npr.org/2018/09/24/651221317/u-s-tariffs-on-china-may-force-california-company-to-move-production-overseas > > > Take-home points: > > —They make lights here from parts sourced from China and other Asian > countries > —The parts they import are subject to a new tariff, but completed lights > (made overseas from the same parts) are not > —They are considering moving their assembly overseas to avoid the tariffs > by assembling the lights there and importing them as complete systems > > --Eric N > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
Add a Light Motion Urban 700 for your helmet. Having lights high and low off road is very helpful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
I also think BM Cyo lights will do nicely. These are designed for fork crown mounting and probably should stay in that area. Pair this with a helmet light and you should see well. Jon Watertown, MA On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:40:55 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: My new bike is going to have a dyno-hub and a USB port in the stem. That means I can run a dyno-powered light. For off-road, what would you recommend for a dyno-light? Assuming that I want to ride home from the trail, and it's dark, what would you recommend as a light system that will be bright enough for the trail, but still work on the road where I don't want to blind oncoming drivers? For me, brighter is better. I have terrible night vision; comes of being astigmatic. What about a handlebar mount that still works when I have stuff strapped to the handlebars? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
For off-road (and on-road), it's really hard to beat the combination of a stem and helmet mounted setup. The specific problem with off-road is that periodically, your bicycle may not be pointed in the direction you need to see. I've found that balancing the power is most helpful. Depending on how well your eyes work in the dark, even a low wattage LED setup can be quite enough for normal speeds. (of course, downhill over technical trails, you need/want brightness.) I like a bit more focused headlight beam - ideal for when you need to see somewhere. The test I use is to look away from the forward fixed beam and see if I can see enough detail. hope that helps. - Jim On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:10:09 PM UTC-8, Lynne Fitz wrote: off-road is notoriously poorly-lit and has no fog lines. I am all for the widest beam possible. The BM Luxos lights are both long and wide, plus have a shaped beam with a cutoff. Love mine for the occasional trails through parks after dark part of a rando ride. The Luxos is a biggish light, though. Mine is mounted at the front of my Nitto rack. A riding buddy of mine swears by her helmet mounted Stella. It is a searchlight; I can say that about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
I think you're right, Jim. Probably a dyno-hub road light plus a helmet-mounted broad light is the answer. Just using a road light and nothing else off-road has one nasty pitfall. Road lights have a height cutoff so as not to blind oncoming vehicles. That's fine, because roads don't have tree branches and cliffs sticking out at eye level. But trails do, so just using a road light off-road can result in getting clotheslined by a branch. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: For off-road (and on-road), it's really hard to beat the combination of a stem and helmet mounted setup. The specific problem with off-road is that periodically, your bicycle may not be pointed in the direction you need to see. I've found that balancing the power is most helpful. Depending on how well your eyes work in the dark, even a low wattage LED setup can be quite enough for normal speeds. (of course, downhill over technical trails, you need/want brightness.) I like a bit more focused headlight beam - ideal for when you need to see somewhere. The test I use is to look away from the forward fixed beam and see if I can see enough detail. hope that helps. - Jim On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:10:09 PM UTC-8, Lynne Fitz wrote: off-road is notoriously poorly-lit and has no fog lines. I am all for the widest beam possible. The BM Luxos lights are both long and wide, plus have a shaped beam with a cutoff. Love mine for the occasional trails through parks after dark part of a rando ride. The Luxos is a biggish light, though. Mine is mounted at the front of my Nitto rack. A riding buddy of mine swears by her helmet mounted Stella. It is a searchlight; I can say that about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
My concern with a dyno hub system off-road would be that at very low speeds (stopping to jump over a log, climbing a steep stretch of trail, etc.), the light will either go out or become very dim. At low speeds/stops, modern LED lights have a standlight that stays on, but it's much dimmer than the headlight. This is not an issue on the road, where you're almost always riding fast enough to spin the wheels fast enough for the lights to come on full strength. I'd be interested in whether anyone has had experience using dynos off-road. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I think you're right, Jim. Probably a dyno-hub road light plus a helmet-mounted broad light is the answer. Just using a road light and nothing else off-road has one nasty pitfall. Road lights have a height cutoff so as not to blind oncoming vehicles. That's fine, because roads don't have tree branches and cliffs sticking out at eye level. But trails do, so just using a road light off-road can result in getting clotheslined by a branch. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: For off-road (and on-road), it's really hard to beat the combination of a stem and helmet mounted setup. The specific problem with off-road is that periodically, your bicycle may not be pointed in the direction you need to see. I've found that balancing the power is most helpful. Depending on how well your eyes work in the dark, even a low wattage LED setup can be quite enough for normal speeds. (of course, downhill over technical trails, you need/want brightness.) I like a bit more focused headlight beam - ideal for when you need to see somewhere. The test I use is to look away from the forward fixed beam and see if I can see enough detail. hope that helps. - Jim On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:10:09 PM UTC-8, Lynne Fitz wrote: off-road is notoriously poorly-lit and has no fog lines. I am all for the widest beam possible. The BM Luxos lights are both long and wide, plus have a shaped beam with a cutoff. Love mine for the occasional trails through parks after dark part of a rando ride. The Luxos is a biggish light, though. Mine is mounted at the front of my Nitto rack. A riding buddy of mine swears by her helmet mounted Stella. It is a searchlight; I can say that about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
+1 on the 'fiend On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:21:12 PM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: For off-road (and on-road), it's really hard to beat the combination of a stem and helmet mounted setup. The specific problem with off-road is that periodically, your bicycle may not be pointed in the direction you need to see. I've found that balancing the power is most helpful. Depending on how well your eyes work in the dark, even a low wattage LED setup can be quite enough for normal speeds. (of course, downhill over technical trails, you need/want brightness.) I like a bit more focused headlight beam - ideal for when you need to see somewhere. The test I use is to look away from the forward fixed beam and see if I can see enough detail. hope that helps. - Jim On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:10:09 PM UTC-8, Lynne Fitz wrote: off-road is notoriously poorly-lit and has no fog lines. I am all for the widest beam possible. The BM Luxos lights are both long and wide, plus have a shaped beam with a cutoff. Love mine for the occasional trails through parks after dark part of a rando ride. The Luxos is a biggish light, though. Mine is mounted at the front of my Nitto rack. A riding buddy of mine swears by her helmet mounted Stella. It is a searchlight; I can say that about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
that's why the helmet light is essential for the hike-a-bike and other direction look times. A lot of 24 hr MTB racers use the Supernova lights. Not as focused as the Son lights but better for off-road trals where you don't have on-coming cars and such.. ~mike On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:28:24 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: My concern with a dyno hub system off-road would be that at very low speeds (stopping to jump over a log, climbing a steep stretch of trail, etc.), the light will either go out or become very dim. At low speeds/stops, modern LED lights have a standlight that stays on, but it's much dimmer than the headlight. This is not an issue on the road, where you're almost always riding fast enough to spin the wheels fast enough for the lights to come on full strength. I'd be interested in whether anyone has had experience using dynos off-road. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy t https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
Mike I read through all the posts to see if anyone mentioned the Supernova and of course you did. That's the light I'm going with. Incidentally, when used to MTB at night I'd run three lights two on the handle bars and a helmet mounted one...it's the way to go. ~Hugh On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:57:57 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote: that's why the helmet light is essential for the hike-a-bike and other direction look times. A lot of 24 hr MTB racers use the Supernova lights. Not as focused as the Son lights but better for off-road trals where you don't have on-coming cars and such.. ~mike On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:28:24 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: My concern with a dyno hub system off-road would be that at very low speeds (stopping to jump over a log, climbing a steep stretch of trail, etc.), the light will either go out or become very dim. At low speeds/stops, modern LED lights have a standlight that stays on, but it's much dimmer than the headlight. This is not an issue on the road, where you're almost always riding fast enough to spin the wheels fast enough for the lights to come on full strength. I'd be interested in whether anyone has had experience using dynos off-road. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy t https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for off-road
I think there are several good lights available. And good lights are expensive. I've been very happy with a Cygolite that I got on closeout. I'll add my concurrence with the recommendation to use a helmet light in addition to a stem mounted light. I've seen lots of cool things riding around Mt Diablo at night. Skunks act as if they own the place, and I'm not going to argue with them. There is also a Night of the Toads and a Night of the Milliipedes (not at the same time) when very large members of those species wander across the trail every 100 yards or so. You know a millipede is big when you can see it with a bike light at night. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: lights
I have the MiNewt 600. I tried a Cateye then the Princeton EOS but neither were bright enough. Oddly, since I ride in semi lit areas, the dimmer lights did nothing and I needed a brighter light to see where I'm going. It's the contrast of bright soccer field lights but I'm on the path that's not lit and I couldn't see. If it's pitch black, dimmer lights are ok but if you have semi light then I actually need a brighter light to make any difference. You won't be disappointed with a really bright light and you can ride anytime. 600 lumens on high w/1 1/2 hr run time; 400 lumens on med w/3 hrs run time; 275 lumens on low w/4 1/2 hrs run time; total charge time is 4 1/2 hrs; no wires to run; USB rechargeable. Lezyne makes a pretty bright one but not as bright but nicer looking. On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/arpLwZzsbfAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Leslie: different people have different eyes with different needs -- I for example have very bad night vision, explained by an ophthalmologist as the result of small pupils -- but many have claimed that very bright but unfocused lights can actually be counterproductive. I mentioned before my experience with an early HID system that was as bright, at least, as a car headlight: it was too bright close-up which made its distant beam much less effective. I found, even with my poor night vision, that less bright lights actually let me see better on an unlit bike path. I have no experience riding off road with very powerful lights; some say that this is where they shine (so to speak). That said, there is some merit to blindingly powerful lights when you ride atr night in the face of oncoming traffic, whose headlights tend to overwhelm all but the brightest bike lights. That said, in my own riding environment, there are only a couple of places where this is a real bother, and this is where I ride on a bike path adjacent to heavy traffic moving in the opposite direction. On other routes where I ride on the same side as auto traffic, thus separated from oncoming traffic by a lane, I don't have this problem -- this is the reason for auto low beams. The best lamps I've used are focused beam German ones like the Edeluxe and Cyo, but even much inferior lamps have worked, such as a pair of 50 lumen EOSes (this was some 8 years ago, when the EOS claimed 50 lumens each). On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:39 AM, pam pamelamurra...@gmail.com wrote: I have the MiNewt 600. I tried a Cateye then the Princeton EOS but neither were bright enough. Oddly, since I ride in semi lit areas, the dimmer lights did nothing and I needed a brighter light to see where I'm going. It's the contrast of bright soccer field lights but I'm on the path that's not lit and I couldn't see. If it's pitch black, dimmer lights are ok but if you have semi light then I actually need a brighter light to make any difference. You won't be disappointed with a really bright light and you can ride anytime. 600 lumens on high w/1 1/2 hr run time; 400 lumens on med w/3 hrs run time; 275 lumens on low w/4 1/2 hrs run time; total charge time is 4 1/2 hrs; no wires to run; USB rechargeable. Lezyne makes a pretty bright one but not as bright but nicer looking. On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/arpLwZzsbfAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: lights
I have a Lezyne battery light (rechargeable) on my Mystery Bike, and it's absolutely terrific. I think the model is Super Drive something or other - 400 or 500 lumens, can't remember, but it's very bright and is a wonderful complement to a dynamo light (I have a Supernova on that bike), and I suspect would be great as a standalone light as well. As Pam notes, it's not the prettiest light, but it's really excellent on functionality. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of pam Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:40 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: lights I have the MiNewt 600. I tried a Cateye then the Princeton EOS but neither were bright enough. Oddly, since I ride in semi lit areas, the dimmer lights did nothing and I needed a brighter light to see where I'm going. It's the contrast of bright soccer field lights but I'm on the path that's not lit and I couldn't see. If it's pitch black, dimmer lights are ok but if you have semi light then I actually need a brighter light to make any difference. You won't be disappointed with a really bright light and you can ride anytime. 600 lumens on high w/1 1/2 hr run time; 400 lumens on med w/3 hrs run time; 275 lumens on low w/4 1/2 hrs run time; total charge time is 4 1/2 hrs; no wires to run; USB rechargeable. Lezyne makes a pretty bright one but not as bright but nicer looking. On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/arpLwZzsbfAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
RUSA requires adequate reflective wear on rando rides, and it's better to be seen and not hit than the reverse. No propeller beanies yet though. Sam Allen belts look cool, but vests are more visible. The cheapie DOT spec ones work fine on a budget. Here's one under $10 and there are many variants with other features to look at: http://www.esafetystore.com/GroupInformation/GroupID/10774 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:37 PM, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Reflective sidewalls on my Marathon Supremes, velcro ankle reflector to keep my pants out of the chain, red reflector tape on the rear fender and white tape on the front head tube. My rain jacket, helmet and Carradice bag have a bit of reflective material on them also and last but not least both front and rear light lenses have built in reflectors. I've often thought of stitching reflective fabric on the backs of my gloves shaped like arrowheads for when I signal..just haven't done it yet.n ankle strap reflector and a rear triangle like those Riv sells. I've used a Sam Browne but I find it annoying to put on. REI has a big reflective night cycling vest with built in blinkies; you only have to add the WHOOO-whooo-WHOOO-whooo siren and the little helmet propeller. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
The cover of the current issue of American Randonneur has some typical reflective gear shown on some cyclists. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote: RUSA requires adequate reflective wear on rando rides.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Kelly In the 9 miles I've ridden it so far it's very nice! I have the PD-8 so no clutch on mine. I have no previous experience with any other dyno hub to compare it to, but I was really surprised taking it out of the box how small and light it was. Its barely larger than the XT hub that was on the bike before. The finish quality seems good, but 9 dry miles is no test of durability! Riding, I cannot sense any drag or vibration, on or off. It just disappears. The buying experience was very smooth. It got here in a week from Taiwan via regular mail. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UTHA42lLUEMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Battery versus generator - I hate to worry about charging or replacing batteries, so i choose to use dynohub generators. If money is no object, SON Dynohubs look and perform the best, period. However, on one of my bikes that only gets occasional use, I have a Shimano Alfine dynohub and it works fine. I know there are a ton of high quality battery options available but I am not familiar with any of them. I only use cheap battery lights for back-up purposes. Front lights - I have used both halogen and LED headlamps. LED lamps are way better. Schmidt Edelux - Very bright, great coverage. My favorite. Supernova E3 - Looks great but I prefer the Edelux. The E3 doesn't seem as bright as the Edelux and it is big and weighs a ton and cost a lot. BM Lumotec IQ Fly Senso Plus - it pretty much sucks in comparison to the 2 lights above. Rear lights: Supernova taillight is my favorite but must be coupled with the Supernova E3 headlight. BM Toplight Line Pluse is my second favorite BM 4D Toplight Senso Multi is my least favorite. Good luck. On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vjKQZBprB7oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Good point: I always have backup front and rear, a cheap LED 3 AAA lamp in front (eg, Planet Bike Blaze) and two LEDs in the rear one run steady, the other in blinkie. I generally turn my battery headlight on only at intersections because the standlights on the Cyo or Edeluxe dim quickly. I turn it off after the intersection. The QR front cheapie also serves as a flashlight if (God forbid) I have to stop and change a tube mid-ride. Next question: what do y'all use for reflection? Me, generally an ankle strap reflector and a rear triangle like those Riv sells. I've used a Sam Browne but I find it annoying to put on. REI has a big reflective night cycling vest with built in blinkies; you only have to add the WHOOO-whooo-WHOOO-whooo siren and the little helmet propeller. http://www.rei.com/product/842481/amphipod-xinglet-flash-led-reflective-vest And these: http://www.amazon.com/Tacx-Dropbar-HeadLight-Taillight-Directional/dp/B009HSV1RM Apparently you can use them as turn signals too. Curious -- an idle curiosity: who has the most lights, blinkies and reflective gear on himerher and bike, of this list? Me, I find things like that annoying overkill, but then I've not used them -- has anyone? On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Jimmy Hutch ji...@jimmyhutchinson.comwrote: I only use cheap battery lights for back-up purposes. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Reflective sidewalls on my Marathon Supremes, velcro ankle reflector to keep my pants out of the chain, red reflector tape on the rear fender and white tape on the front head tube. My rain jacket, helmet and Carradice bag have a bit of reflective material on them also and last but not least both front and rear light lenses have built in reflectors. I've often thought of stitching reflective fabric on the backs of my gloves shaped like arrowheads for when I signal..just haven't done it yet. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:50:28 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Good point: I always have backup front and rear, a cheap LED 3 AAA lamp in front (eg, Planet Bike Blaze) and two LEDs in the rear one run steady, the other in blinkie. I generally turn my battery headlight on only at intersections because the standlights on the Cyo or Edeluxe dim quickly. I turn it off after the intersection. The QR front cheapie also serves as a flashlight if (God forbid) I have to stop and change a tube mid-ride. Next question: what do y'all use for reflection? Me, generally an ankle strap reflector and a rear triangle like those Riv sells. I've used a Sam Browne but I find it annoying to put on. REI has a big reflective night cycling vest with built in blinkies; you only have to add the WHOOO-whooo-WHOOO-whooo siren and the little helmet propeller. http://www.rei.com/product/842481/amphipod-xinglet-flash-led-reflective-vest And these: http://www.amazon.com/Tacx-Dropbar-HeadLight-Taillight-Directional/dp/B009HSV1RM Apparently you can use them as turn signals too. Curious -- an idle curiosity: who has the most lights, blinkies and reflective gear on himerher and bike, of this list? Me, I find things like that annoying overkill, but then I've not used them -- has anyone? On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Jimmy Hutch ji...@jimmyhutchinson.comjavascript: wrote: I only use cheap battery lights for back-up purposes. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VrgvM2cBf10J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
It's hard to beat a dynamo for reliability or convenience, but a full dyno set up is still a bit of an investment if you won't be using it regularly. However, you mention touring so it could be that even if you do most of your riding in daylight, not having to worry about batteries while you are out and about could make a dynamo system worthwhile for you. A decent headlight will eat batteries quickly, but if you only need be seen blinky lights then a set of batteries could last a whole tour with occasional use. -Pete (dynamo powered as of this morning!) in CT On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUH4scgXS_cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I do ride alot at night but not for hours at a time and have found my MiNewt 250 light with Gino mount to be a great fit. Even on the lowest setting it is bright enough to light up a dark bike path and will run for about 3 hours. Now take into consideration I am in NYC where it is rarely ever pitch black. on the brightest setting the light is crazy bright, which i only use in high traffic situations to make sure I am seen. It is defintely a see and be seen light. Best part for me is tha it has a built in batter, which makes it kinda large but I dont have to run any wires or anything like that. It was not a cheap light at 90 bucks but it charges in 5 hours, is sealed up tight to stop dirt and water and mounts securely. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: It's hard to beat a dynamo for reliability or convenience, but a full dyno set up is still a bit of an investment if you won't be using it regularly. However, you mention touring so it could be that even if you do most of your riding in daylight, not having to worry about batteries while you are out and about could make a dynamo system worthwhile for you. A decent headlight will eat batteries quickly, but if you only need be seen blinky lights then a set of batteries could last a whole tour with occasional use. -Pete (dynamo powered as of this morning!) in CT On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUH4scgXS_cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I'm going to throw in a vote for Cygo lights for convenience - Expilion and Hot Shot combo. They're inexpensive, lightweight, and go for hours and hours before needing a charge. They plug into any USB, and a spare battery for the headlight is cheap enough if you want to carry a charged spare. Yes, you see them everywhere - it's for a reason. Wouldn't claim they're the best lighting system for commuting, but a perfect choice for in case I need a light On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vNQ5G5A0KmwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I'll reiterate again that, if you don't plan to ride in the rain a lot, a bottle dynamo is not a bad choice. I personally would have chosen a bb dynamo or even one of these: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/dymotec.asp Even old Soubitezes are not bad. And bb dynamos if you can find them (I had an old Sanyo on the Herse) are even better than bottles, IME. PJW has wire rollers for use in the rain. For my Fargo (which is not my principal nightime bike) except that I use both 35 mm and almost-65mm tires on the same bike. If I ever get another bike which sees only occasional night use, this is what I'd choose. (The 12 volt dynamo, through the description of which you scrolled to get to the Dymotec6, is really wonderful but at the price why bother?) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I've been road testing a slightly different solution--the BikeCharge combination dynamo/light/USB charger. My initial results are online here: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2012/08/quick-bikecharge-impressions.html I originally bought the BikeCharge to get the USB charging option, but I've been very pleased with the amount of light it throws. It moves easily from bike to bike (within limits), and has worked very well on my primary bike. The entire system is about $120 including shipping. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Whoops, I should make it clear that I'm not trying to contradict Kelly and only wish to say that, IME, bottles and bb dynamos are a very nice and relatively inexpensive option. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'll reiterate again that, if you don't plan to ride in the rain a lot, a bottle dynamo is not a bad choice. I personally would have chosen a bb dynamo or even one of these: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/dymotec.asp Even old Soubitezes are not bad. And bb dynamos if you can find them (I had an old Sanyo on the Herse) are even better than bottles, IME. PJW has wire rollers for use in the rain. For my Fargo (which is not my principal nightime bike) except that I use both 35 mm and almost-65mm tires on the same bike. If I ever get another bike which sees only occasional night use, this is what I'd choose. (The 12 volt dynamo, through the description of which you scrolled to get to the Dymotec6, is really wonderful but at the price why bother?) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I'll toss this one in, too: http://www.magniclight.com/magniclight/index.php/en/startseite/8-magnic-light-homepage-english The claim that it puts out more light than any existing dynamo system is probably bogus, but the claim that (eventually) it will retrofit to your existing headlight is interesting. Vapor at the moment, I think, and I guess it won't work with the carbon fiber rims on your Bombadil. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Whoops, I should make it clear that I'm not trying to contradict Kelly and only wish to say that, IME, bottles and bb dynamos are a very nice and relatively inexpensive option. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: I'll reiterate again that, if you don't plan to ride in the rain a lot, a bottle dynamo is not a bad choice. I personally would have chosen a bb dynamo or even one of these: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/dymotec.asp Even old Soubitezes are not bad. And bb dynamos if you can find them (I had an old Sanyo on the Herse) are even better than bottles, IME. PJW has wire rollers for use in the rain. For my Fargo (which is not my principal nightime bike) except that I use both 35 mm and almost-65mm tires on the same bike. If I ever get another bike which sees only occasional night use, this is what I'd choose. (The 12 volt dynamo, through the description of which you scrolled to get to the Dymotec6, is really wonderful but at the price why bother?) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide)! Of course, your doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. Price wise - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo On Monday, October 8, 2012 8:42:32 AM UTC-6, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RJpGIkileMoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide!). Of course, if you're doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. As an example of component prices: - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?ontent=13search=dynamohttp://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/E-H1XB42568J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
It's not hardcore to have a flat or mechanical and be riding in the dark. During the last tour we road in total darkness two nights. Lets add the nights that a bar or town is close enough to camp to go to for entertainment. I see touring needing dyno's as much as randonneuring folks and more so than commuters who can charge batteries at night at home. (Note my opinion based on how I tour) Add in Summer tours with 100 degree days and night touring is the best bet to get some added miles without dealing with the extreme heat. I've found nothing dangerous or wrong with night time riding on tour. Once again my opinion. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:47:21 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide!). Of course, if you're doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. As an example of component prices: - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?ontent=13search=dynamohttp://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ns1E2eyhVEMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Thanks to everybody for all of your responses. They have been tremendous. I am so impressed with the wide range of knowledge and experience and for you willingness to share that. Much food for thought. Just to clarify, I don't plan to travel much in the dark. But sometimes in the early morning or at the end of the day or on an overcast or raining day having a good source of illumination to see and to be seen is necessary. Also, having access to charge an phone or an IPad is crucial as well. Thanks again, I really appreciate this very much. On Monday, October 8, 2012 2:47:21 PM UTC-4, IanA wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide!). Of course, if you're doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. As an example of component prices: - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?ontent=13search=dynamohttp://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g7deVzkhGbgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Thanks for the replies thus far they are helpful. I am seriously lacking in knowledge here so bear with me. If I convert to a hub dynamo then I will need to purchase the hub and have it installed in my wheel (read)? And I will need to purchase a light or lights (front and rear) to go with it? Correct? Given that option what brands and models are suggested and where can one purchase these so that I can begin to get some kind of a cost estimate to this. Now, my trips are relatively localized and on a smaller scale but I am looking forward to branching out and taking some much longer Time and distance) trips. Thanks so much. You folks really know about this stuff. It is amazing to me! On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KA9m25FMfegJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Dawn touring makes tons of sense where it's very hot. Even non-hardcore tourists quickly learn the benefit of avoiding 100 degree heat in the full sun. -- Anne On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 09:16 -0700, Don wrote: Thanks for the replies thus far they are helpful. I am seriously lacking in knowledge here so bear with me. If I convert to a hub dynamo then I will need to purchase the hub and have it installed in my wheel (read)? Yes you will need to have a wheel built around a hub dynamo. And I will need to purchase a light or lights (front and rear) to go with it? Correct? Correct. Given that option what brands and models are suggested and where can one purchase these so that I can begin to get some kind of a cost estimate to this. http://peterwhitecycles.com is an excellent source of information. On his site look under Products - Lights -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
It also makes sense for morning people like me. I'm already awake, I love sunrise, I love riding. Put them all together -Ken On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Dawn touring makes tons of sense where it's very hot. Even non-hardcore tourists quickly learn the benefit of avoiding 100 degree heat in the full sun. -- Anne On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I've got the dynohub ending in 71 with the Cyo -- have used this combo on several bikes -- and yes, it is a very good setup. Frankly, the only reason I have something better on my commuter Riv (SON 20 and Edeluxe) is vanity. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:47 PM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/E-H1XB42568J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Sure - don't get me wrong, I've toured round the clock and have ridden in the pitch black. I still would maintain that basic lighting is enough unless you're making a habit of night riding. But, riding in the dark on tour is not common. Riding at dawn does make a lot of sense especially when hot or you've got lots of miles to cover, but it's not really a time when high efficiency lights are needed. This is based only on personal experience (including one long tour of two years/32,000km) and there are as many opinions as tourers. On Monday, October 8, 2012 2:32:52 PM UTC-6, Kelly wrote: It's not hardcore to have a flat or mechanical and be riding in the dark. During the last tour we road in total darkness two nights. Lets add the nights that a bar or town is close enough to camp to go to for entertainment. I see touring needing dyno's as much as randonneuring folks and more so than commuters who can charge batteries at night at home. (Note my opinion based on how I tour) Add in Summer tours with 100 degree days and night touring is the best bet to get some added miles without dealing with the extreme heat. I've found nothing dangerous or wrong with night time riding on tour. Once again my opinion. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:47:21 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide!). Of course, if you're doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. As an example of component prices: - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?ontent=13search=dynamohttp://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VfREuFwRJQsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I use a Nite Rider minewt.600 on my Bleriot and I commute after dark. Wireless, small, and a powerful 600 lumens. I would not use less than 600 lumens for riding at night. It comes with a mount for the helmet, and also with a clip on mount for the bars/stem. Works fantastic for me. On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XfyWW-D3IaoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Note that, beyond a certain surprisingly low minimum, it is less the gross output of a light that makes it desirable for commuting than the shape of the beam. I get much more usable illumination from a 2.4-3W LED in my Cyo or Edeluxe than from the insanely more bright HID light I had some years ago. *The headlight that I use (a generator headlight called the IQ Cyo) is 60 Lux, but uses a LED that only puts out around 150 lumens (CREE XR-E). The lenses just do a good job of putting the light on the ground in front of the cyclist, and not wasting it lighting up trees that are over the road or trail. The MS has 6x the number of lumens, but puts less light onto the ground becuase the light is being distributed everywhere. A lot of that scattered light is going into the eyes of oncoming cyclists and driver's, blinding them.* Another big factor in the efficacy of a headlight: how well the close-up lighting is graduated compared to that in the distance. A very bright uniform beam giving very bright close-up illumination is self defeating since it dazzles you so that you can't see as well in the distance. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I use a Nite Rider minewt.600 on my Bleriot and I commute after dark. Wireless, small, and a powerful 600 lumens. I would not use less than 600 lumens for riding at night. It comes with a mount for the helmet, and also with a clip on mount for the bars/stem. Works fantastic for me. On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XfyWW-D3IaoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I bought my boys wheels with Shimano Alfine hubs last year. Harris sells them. They are great. There's so little drag you can run lights full time. Running lights during the day is worth it. You are very visible. Around the holidays, Harris usually offers a good shipping promotion. http://harriscyclery.net/product/harris-cyclery-generator-front-wheel-sun-cr-18-rim-shimano-alfine-hub-36-dt-spokes-2982.htm On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L2IL3IfUWqEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I got my rear 650b alfine wheel done by Harris and have bought wheels off them in the past. They were great. I was looking at longleaf for a 650b dyno front wheel maybe for xmas though. http://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/dynohubs-and-lighting/dynohubs/shimano-dh-3n72-dh-3d72/ On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote: I bought my boys wheels with Shimano Alfine hubs last year. Harris sells them. They are great. There's so little drag you can run lights full time. Running lights during the day is worth it. You are very visible. Around the holidays, Harris usually offers a good shipping promotion. http://harriscyclery.net/product/harris-cyclery-generator-front-wheel-sun-cr-18-rim-shimano-alfine-hub-36-dt-spokes-2982.htm On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L2IL3IfUWqEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
A generator front and rear light system is the best thing I have ever done for my bicycle. It turned my ride into a useful vehicle rather than a fair weather day rider. Lights on all the time is a good safety feature. I notice auto drivers see me sooner especially when I'm in the shadows, even on a sunny day. If you have a short (five mile or less) commute a high quality battery set up will suffice ( Phillips headlight 80 Lux and maybe a Planet bike super flash rear) On Monday, October 8, 2012 7:42:32 AM UTC-7, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uFFiO2Ra8wcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I have a 3 mile commute on lit city streets and battery lights will easily suffice. I used a PB Superflash rear and 2W Blaze in front for 2 years with no ptoblem. Even though the beam pattern of the Blaze wasn't ideal, I loved that it had a psycho flash mode for daytime riding. Nonetheless I upgraded to a dynamo system and tonight was my first ride home with it. It's very nice to just ride and go, with no battery anxiety. I have an IQ Cyo up front and a Toplight Line Plus Brake in the rear. Love them both so far, along with the SP hub dyno that's powering them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3xJKGajVoqoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Pete How has the SP hub treated you. I just put one in service on my quickbeam and love it so far. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/98juvD2gmckJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I have the SP hub from VO with the clutch on my Surly..and a BM Daylight Running light Fly headlamp and Toplight line tail lightit is nice to just ride along and know I have a constant running tail light and adequate head light. It even comes in handy in the daylight, at dusk and in the fog and rain etc. My visibility to others is improved and that makes my wife happier. On Monday, October 8, 2012 6:48:07 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: I have a 3 mile commute on lit city streets and battery lights will easily suffice. I used a PB Superflash rear and 2W Blaze in front for 2 years with no ptoblem. Even though the beam pattern of the Blaze wasn't ideal, I loved that it had a psycho flash mode for daytime riding. Nonetheless I upgraded to a dynamo system and tonight was my first ride home with it. It's very nice to just ride and go, with no battery anxiety. I have an IQ Cyo up front and a Toplight Line Plus Brake in the rear. Love them both so far, along with the SP hub dyno that's powering them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/edDAPYBA8EsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
I use a Planet Bike mounted on that rack. One reasons I like it is because it has one of the best reflectors of any blinky type light I have found. http://www.rei.com/product/776955/planet-bike-rack-blinky-5-rear-light. On Mar 16, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
FWIW, I test-mounted two blinkies at the rear of my new Fargo rack and, sho' 'nuff, one bounce off after fewer than 5 miles. The other one remained -- so far. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM, judy richmond richmondjudy...@gmail.com wrote: I use a Planet Bike mounted on that rack. One reasons I like it is because it has one of the best reflectors of any blinky type light I have found. http://www.rei.com/product/776955/planet-bike-rack-blinky-5-rear-light. On Mar 16, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
The rack mounted tail lights that Peter White sells would fit if the spacing is either 50 or 80 mm. Tel Aviv has a bike sharing program and those are the lights mounted to their racks. Seem to work pretty good. http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/bm.asp Scroll down the page to, you guessed it, rack mounted tail lights. Jay On Mar 17, 5:11 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
Planet bike makes a bracket to mount on racks. Put a bolt through one of the middle holes, and tighten it down with a nylock nut and washer on the inside of the rack. It's this part - http://ecom1.planetbike.com/3108.html Pretty sure most lights from Planet bike come with that bracket. Otherwise your LBS might have one around to sell. It will also fit lights from Portland Design Works and probably a number of other makers. Was also able to mount a Supernova E3 tail light to the Nitto on my Sam Hillborne by just using one bolt and having the light offset. Otherwise it gets to be more of a hassle to get a light mounted on the rack. Although it can be done. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Friday, March 16, 2012 10:11:54 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yNRN_JxoMRcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
So the Nitto racks have 1 hole, not ? Wierd. I this the page I linked has an adaptor for that too. Jay On Mar 17, 2:41 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Planet bike makes a bracket to mount on racks. Put a bolt through one of the middle holes, and tighten it down with a nylock nut and washer on the inside of the rack. It's this part -http://ecom1.planetbike.com/3108.html Pretty sure most lights from Planet bike come with that bracket. Otherwise your LBS might have one around to sell. It will also fit lights from Portland Design Works and probably a number of other makers. Was also able to mount a Supernova E3 tail light to the Nitto on my Sam Hillborne by just using one bolt and having the light offset. Otherwise it gets to be more of a hassle to get a light mounted on the rack. Although it can be done. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Friday, March 16, 2012 10:11:54 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
Hi Anne, I have the Nitto Big front rack with a flat plate as you describe. I use the plate to mount a reflector -- I don't like having a light that far forward. My headlight is a Planet Bike Blaze 2W, designed to clamp on a handlebar. To mount my light on the rack, I use a Velo Orange small-diameter band clamp and a Nitto Lamp holder (link below) to create a place to clamp the handlebar mount. This puts the light on the side of my rack in a good place that doesn't interfere with low-mount panniers, an Ortlieb handlebar bag, or even a Wald basket on the rack platform. Photo of my bike with the light mounted on the rack (look in front, just below the basket): http://tinyurl.com/7q2lt3q Nitto Lamp holder link: http://tinyurl.com/72z7qca Lisa On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:11:54 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uVKOQoI8F7MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
Hmm I prefer the Gino Mount to the nitto one, it is a little fatter and mounts through the mount rather than from the back like the nitto version. Got mine on Amazon for 15 bucks. The front part of my rack is occupied by the platrack. On Mar 17, 2012 11:38 AM, Lisa ukulele.l...@mac.com wrote: Hi Anne, I have the Nitto Big front rack with a flat plate as you describe. I use the plate to mount a reflector -- I don't like having a light that far forward. My headlight is a Planet Bike Blaze 2W, designed to clamp on a handlebar. To mount my light on the rack, I use a Velo Orange small-diameter band clamp and a Nitto Lamp holder (link below) to create a place to clamp the handlebar mount. This puts the light on the side of my rack in a good place that doesn't interfere with low-mount panniers, an Ortlieb handlebar bag, or even a Wald basket on the rack platform. Photo of my bike with the light mounted on the rack (look in front, just below the basket): http://tinyurl.com/7q2lt3q Nitto Lamp holder link: http://tinyurl.com/72z7qca Lisa On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:11:54 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uVKOQoI8F7MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
A warning: I've had two rear blinkies mounted on one of those adaptors fling themselves off the mount, hit the ground and explode after the rear tire hit admittedly egregiously large (6 wide, 3 deep) expansion cracks at 15+ mph. It seems that the moment or leverage of the very rearward location makes that adaptor rather insecure. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm I prefer the Gino Mount to the nitto one, it is a little fatter and mounts through the mount rather than from the back like the nitto version. Got mine on Amazon for 15 bucks. The front part of my rack is occupied by the platrack. On Mar 17, 2012 11:38 AM, Lisa ukulele.l...@mac.com wrote: Hi Anne, I have the Nitto Big front rack with a flat plate as you describe. I use the plate to mount a reflector -- I don't like having a light that far forward. My headlight is a Planet Bike Blaze 2W, designed to clamp on a handlebar. To mount my light on the rack, I use a Velo Orange small-diameter band clamp and a Nitto Lamp holder (link below) to create a place to clamp the handlebar mount. This puts the light on the side of my rack in a good place that doesn't interfere with low-mount panniers, an Ortlieb handlebar bag, or even a Wald basket on the rack platform. Photo of my bike with the light mounted on the rack (look in front, just below the basket): http://tinyurl.com/7q2lt3q Nitto Lamp holder link: http://tinyurl.com/72z7qca Lisa On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:11:54 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uVKOQoI8F7MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
I got my planet bike bracket for my rear blinked from amazon. Its been solid for me...and I've been pounding the crap out of it on my daily commute. Jim in Boulder On Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:41:16 AM UTC-6, EricP wrote: Planet bike makes a bracket to mount on racks. Put a bolt through one of the middle holes, and tighten it down with a nylock nut and washer on the inside of the rack. It's this part - http://ecom1.planetbike.com/3108.html Pretty sure most lights from Planet bike come with that bracket. Otherwise your LBS might have one around to sell. It will also fit lights from Portland Design Works and probably a number of other makers. Was also able to mount a Supernova E3 tail light to the Nitto on my Sam Hillborne by just using one bolt and having the light offset. Otherwise it gets to be more of a hassle to get a light mounted on the rack. Although it can be done. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Friday, March 16, 2012 10:11:54 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VTXZmtpqOCgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
I just purchased an origin 8 light mount for my Nitto M-12 and it was the wrong size. I had to drill a larger hole in it and add threads. http://www.origin-8.com/?page_id=91short_code=Eyelet+Stub+Light+Mountcl1=LIGHTS+%26+REFLECTORS I just used the handlebar mount that came with my Princeton Tec Eos and it works great. - Ryan On Friday, March 16, 2012 8:11:54 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Q1Tt-a0KLoEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
Anne, Not that complicated if you talked to Peter White he'd make sure you get the correct combination, but pretty much any light now will have some kind of fork-crown mount either with it or for a few bucks more. Any of the fork-crown mounts will work with the nitto on the front. alternatively if you can mount it on the side (and your nitto rack has a boss on the side) you could use an offset side mount like the one from boulder bicycles or you could use the Gino mount and then use any light that's meant for handlebar mounting. So first decide if front mount is what you want, then search for a light and see if the fork-crown mount will work for you. I really like the one William showed, because it doesn't raise it as much, i might have to go with that if i ever upgrade from my perfectly-fine-but-not-as-pretty light to an edelux. examples of mounts here http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/light-mounts.asp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wYRdH9Ar3bMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
Anne I've not read all the replies so you might have gotten the answer you wanted. But here's my IQ Cyo mounted on my Nitto Mini--purchased from Rivendell. Not sure what you meant when you said except for IQ Cyo so here goes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/6867520015/in/photostream Christian On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:11:54 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9NgT9zVw6bgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Interesting... it also seems that Philips has a simlar, slightly brighter battery light which looks to compete with the Ixon IQ (i.e. 4AA rechargeables, in-situ charging). One distinguishing charactersitic is that it uses a USB interface for charging (i.e. it comes with a wall-wart charger but the connector at the light is USB format and it can be charged from a USB port). I wonder how long reasonable AA batteries would last at each of its settings, which Philips says are 80lux/20lux? Though I'm happy with my Ixon IQ lights right now, it is nice to know that alternatives exist and may even be better. And, of course, a silver light would be nicer than a black one... hmmm :) Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Lf5DJBFk5tIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
In this connection, does anyone know: 1. If the Blackburn Flea can be charged with the wall-to-usb adaptor used for the iPhone cable? 2. How long the Flea runs on one charge? -- I've seen 3 and 5 hours. 3. How long the Flea holds it charge when fully charged and left unused? Thanks. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: One distinguishing charactersitic is that it uses a USB interface for charging (i.e. it comes with a wall-wart charger but the connector at the light is USB format and it can be charged from a USB port). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I think battery lighting is the right way to go if you're planning on switching bikes periodically. My Ixon IQ is wonderful in Chicago winters and between Paul's Gino mount and Peter White's mounting options you can put it lots of places to accommodate lots of configurations. That said, everything I've read tells me if I ever go dynamo it'll be SON/Edelux, price be damned. I'll just save up. Those seem to be the ones that just work, even in harsh environs. And it'd have to just work to be better than my current battery setup. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hRdk35nYqlkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I used the Cyo in moderate rain with no problem, haven't tried it in the snow. The skewer end mount setup makes the wheel, light and mount one piece, easy to move from bike to bike, no wires to disconnect. I used to used to setup a dedicated night bike for each winter, being able to swap the light system easily let me ride the 'nice' bike occasionally during winter evenings. note, the E3 Pro is available with a spot beam or the Edelux style auto cutoff beam optic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RXOnu3o-kAoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
On Sep 5, 1:52 pm, Liesl lchat...@smm.org wrote: Curious about wiring set-ups that can move back and forth within 5 minutes or less. Not thinking of dyno-run tailights. Am thinking of LED's. if you bounce back and forth between bikes a lot, I'd just get 2 IQ flys and put one on each bike. that light is plenty bright for urban commuting and then you're only dealing with a 30 second wheel change. FWIW, I've used the edeluxe, the cyo, the fly - basically the same, and i've never had issues running them in crappy Vermont winters. my only comment is that the switch on the CYO isn't so hot - not the easiest to operate with gloves and it gets a little gritty in really sloppy weather. the supernovas are also nice lights (have a couple of friends using those) - but for the extra coin, 2 lights will make life easier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I warn that I am biased ... the dyno's have spoiled me and between the SON28 and the Edelux I have found bliss. I've had high powered battery lights and no matter how great and bright they may be I had to remember to charge them. To get the battery to do something.. like get them out of the bag and mount them when it got dark. (never bothered to permanently mount any of my battery powered lights) Then came the Edelux on my AHH followed by the E3 Triple on the Bombadil. I sold the E3 triple on the Bombadil because I liked the light pattern of the Edulux better and missed the sensor. A light that just was on was beyond just nice it was liberating. I know have three of them and contemplating putting one on my recently acquired Quickbeam. The second ride out on the QB I was in a parking lot eating pizza and had to leave because it was getting dark.. I thought right or wrong on the way home.. this bike is useless without a good light. Spoiled yes.. I have a minewt or two in the garage and can't find the charging cable (though I know it's here) I'm two lazy and unorganized for battery ... I don't want to go turn on the light or remember to turn it off again. OOPs.. i ranted yet again.. sorry.. :) (ok sorry may be a stretch) Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-FqopB6x6IAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Regarding Cyo, how does it hold up under bucketing rain? Does it take on water? I've read some concerns about it not being as tight as the Edelux... I mounted the first Cyo on the forward tab of a Nitto M12 rack. This placed the light directly in the spray of the tire. I kept thinking I need to move that light or extend the fender. After about a year it finally failed in a downpour. I tried letting it dry for a week but that didn't help. Luckily it was still under warranty, Peter White replaced it. I was honest about the conditions and the placement. After that I followed Bicycle Quarterly's advice. The new light is mounted under the rack to the side. Rene Herse sells a bracket at a fair price though one could easily make their own. Great placement and keeps the light out of the spray. http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-341/Light-Bracket-for-Edelux/Detail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 10:38 -0400, Khalid Mateen wrote: Do you think it is safe to mount a Edelux on a front fender for a touring bicycle? Assuming that is a metal fender and not plastic. Sorry to high jack this post but it is question that I have been asking myself. Mitch Pryor likes that position. You can see several set up that way on his flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/ and in the MAP Randonneur Project Owners Group, such as this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/5583366143/in/pool-1759586@N22 He has a mount made for that lamp and that location that he says will be commercially available soon, shown here http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/6055950533/in/photostream However the BQ test of the MAP had a photo where a light in that location had been misaligned by the handlebar bag hitting it after a stretch on a rough gravel road. That can't happen with a rack mount. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I've thought of that and would say no unless your fender has a second pair of struts supporting the forward end or unless it is secured to the underside of a rack; and even in those cases, only with metal fenders. I've seen very light, old lamps that an unsupported metal fender might support long term without damage, but the Edeluxe is quite a bit heavier than these, as are also the Cyos and the Fly. Note that I have in mind Berthoud ss fenders as well as Honjo and VO aluminum ones. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Khalid Mateen krm2...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think it is safe to mount a Edelux on a front fender for a touring bicycle? Assuming that is a metal fender and not plastic. Sorry to high jack this post but it is question that I have been asking myself. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I warn that I am biased ... the dyno's have spoiled me and between the SON28 and the Edelux I have found bliss. I've had high powered battery lights and no matter how great and bright they may be I had to remember to charge them. To get the battery to do something.. like get them out of the bag and mount them when it got dark. (never bothered to permanently mount any of my battery powered lights) Then came the Edelux on my AHH followed by the E3 Triple on the Bombadil. I sold the E3 triple on the Bombadil because I liked the light pattern of the Edulux better and missed the sensor. A light that just was on was beyond just nice it was liberating. I know have three of them and contemplating putting one on my recently acquired Quickbeam. The second ride out on the QB I was in a parking lot eating pizza and had to leave because it was getting dark.. I thought right or wrong on the way home.. this bike is useless without a good light. Spoiled yes.. I have a minewt or two in the garage and can't find the charging cable (though I know it's here) I'm two lazy and unorganized for battery ... I don't want to go turn on the light or remember to turn it off again. OOPs.. i ranted yet again.. sorry.. :) (ok sorry may be a stretch) Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-FqopB6x6IAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I have my E3 mounted forward like that on my Hillborne. It can get a bit dirty. Might switch things around in the future. Although the Sam isn't often out in winter. However, mounting on the front of the Nitto rack might be better for me. For the Cyo, haven't found problems with the switch. Although my tendency is to keep it on at all times. Especially now that I have a tail light hooked up. The light is on the fork crown above a fender, so is away from some of the elements. If one were to go with two lights, the Fly might be a good choice. Or, if looking to save money, the Lyt might be an option. Installed one on my wife's bike. It has a good beam pattern and she likes it better than the Lumotech Oval which it replaced. Khalid - I personally don't think mounting a light on the front fender would work. Too much vibration. A second strut in front of the light might help. Then I could see it being possible. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 7, 10:30 am, Jude jeic...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding Cyo, how does it hold up under bucketing rain? Does it take on water? I've read some concerns about it not being as tight as the Edelux... I mounted the first Cyo on the forward tab of a Nitto M12 rack. This placed the light directly in the spray of the tire. I kept thinking I need to move that light or extend the fender. After about a year it finally failed in a downpour. I tried letting it dry for a week but that didn't help. Luckily it was still under warranty, Peter White replaced it. I was honest about the conditions and the placement. After that I followed Bicycle Quarterly's advice. The new light is mounted under the rack to the side. Rene Herse sells a bracket at a fair price though one could easily make their own. Great placement and keeps the light out of the spray.http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-341/Light-Bracket-for-Edelu... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Aren't they liberating? I too was a holdout for years until I tried the latest generation of German LED lights. Now I've got dynamos on all my bikes except my gofast -- 1 SON 20R + Edeluxe, Riv, 1 DH3N72 (actually two of these for the two wheelsets, fat and very fat) + Cyo for the Fargo, 1 BB dynamo + Cyo for the Herse and one or two other bottle setups with various lamps for beater grocery getter-types. For the grocery trike It's is great to be able just to get on and pedal for a last minute trip to the store: I ought to rig up a dyno tail light on that one. I don't mind switching on batter rear lights for the other bikes since the batteries last for at least a couple of months. I do have battery backups, a Knog or Frog on the trike, shortly a head mounted Flea or somesuch for the others, that I carry in a pouch with ankle and Sam Browne reflectors as part of my nighttime kit, but for the short run, last minute errand vehicle I want full automation, so to speak. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I warn that I am biased ... the dyno's have spoiled me and between the SON28 and the Edelux I have found bliss. I've had high powered battery lights and no matter how great and bright they may be I had to remember to charge them. To get the battery to do something.. like get them out of the bag and mount them when it got dark. (never bothered to permanently mount any of my battery powered lights) Then came the Edelux on my AHH followed by the E3 Triple on the Bombadil. I sold the E3 triple on the Bombadil because I liked the light pattern of the Edulux better and missed the sensor. A light that just was on was beyond just nice it was liberating. I know have three of them and contemplating putting one on my recently acquired Quickbeam. The second ride out on the QB I was in a parking lot eating pizza and had to leave because it was getting dark.. I thought right or wrong on the way home.. this bike is useless without a good light. Spoiled yes.. I have a minewt or two in the garage and can't find the charging cable (though I know it's here) I'm two lazy and unorganized for battery ... I don't want to go turn on the light or remember to turn it off again. OOPs.. i ranted yet again.. sorry.. :) (ok sorry may be a stretch) Kelly -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Eric: will you share with us your rear light wiring strategy? Thanks. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:23 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: I have my E3 mounted forward like that on my Hillborne. It can get a bit dirty. Might switch things around in the future. Although the Sam isn't often out in winter. However, mounting on the front of the Nitto rack might be better for me. For the Cyo, haven't found problems with the switch. Although my tendency is to keep it on at all times. Especially now that I have a tail light hooked up. The light is on the fork crown above a fender, so is away from some of the elements. If one were to go with two lights, the Fly might be a good choice. Or, if looking to save money, the Lyt might be an option. Installed one on my wife's bike. It has a good beam pattern and she likes it better than the Lumotech Oval which it replaced. Khalid - I personally don't think mounting a light on the front fender would work. Too much vibration. A second strut in front of the light might help. Then I could see it being possible. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 7, 10:30 am, Jude jeic...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding Cyo, how does it hold up under bucketing rain? Does it take on water? I've read some concerns about it not being as tight as the Edelux... I mounted the first Cyo on the forward tab of a Nitto M12 rack. This placed the light directly in the spray of the tire. I kept thinking I need to move that light or extend the fender. After about a year it finally failed in a downpour. I tried letting it dry for a week but that didn't help. Luckily it was still under warranty, Peter White replaced it. I was honest about the conditions and the placement. After that I followed Bicycle Quarterly's advice. The new light is mounted under the rack to the side. Rene Herse sells a bracket at a fair price though one could easily make their own. Great placement and keeps the light out of the spray.http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-341/Light-Bracket-for-Edelu... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 10:38 -0400, Khalid Mateen wrote: Do you think it is safe to mount a Edelux on a front fender for a touring bicycle? Assuming that is a metal fender and not plastic. Sorry to high jack this post but it is question that I have been asking myself. Mitch Pryor likes that position. You can see several set up that way on his flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/ and in the MAP Randonneur Project Owners Group, such as this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/5583366143/in/pool-1759586@N22 He has a mount made for that lamp and that location that he says will be commercially available soon, shown here http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/6055950533/in/photostream Ooh. That's nice! I make my own fender mounts by bending a strip of stainless steel into a U, but Mitch's mount is way nicer (and, if my time counts for anything, cheaper). Here's a picture of my setup (the light is now an eDelux): https://picasaweb.google.com/107305917565128209357/VeloOrangeCyclotouriste#5180637123092075842 I do use an extra fender stay for support. On the bike I'm assembling now, I used a Honjo R-clip to attach the light mount to both the fender and the extra stay, which should be even more durable. The one above has lasted four years, though, so it's not bad. --glenn West Chester, PA, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Patrick, On the bike with the rear wired tail light, just ran the wire across the rack held down with zip ties, then a few wraps around one of the rack stays, along the top tube (again held with zip ties), to the brake cable housing, then down parallel to the bike computer wire to the light. At that point, the wires were soldered together and covered in shrink wrap. Very basic, but should keep the tail light wires away from sludge and crud in winter. It's a non-Rivendell (Surly LHT) with Tubus rear rack and the BM Toplight Line Plus bolted to the rear rack. Have not come up with a satisfactory wiring system for the E3 and corresponding tail light on the Sam Hillborne. The previous wiring actually caused the headlight to fail. Admit to a bit of fear of trying it again. Additionally, don't like the Supernova tail light as I prefer something with a reflector. But no other tail light is compatible with the E3. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 7, 11:31 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Eric: will you share with us your rear light wiring strategy? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Thanks, Eric. I'm thinking of converting at least two bikes to dyno powered tail lamps and any wiring info is useful. 'Nother question: can you use the E3 tail light with, say an Edeluxe or Cyo? On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:43 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Patrick, On the bike with the rear wired tail light, just ran the wire across the rack held down with zip ties, then a few wraps around one of the rack stays, along the top tube (again held with zip ties), to the brake cable housing, then down parallel to the bike computer wire to the light. At that point, the wires were soldered together and covered in shrink wrap. Very basic, but should keep the tail light wires away from sludge and crud in winter. It's a non-Rivendell (Surly LHT) with Tubus rear rack and the BM Toplight Line Plus bolted to the rear rack. Have not come up with a satisfactory wiring system for the E3 and corresponding tail light on the Sam Hillborne. The previous wiring actually caused the headlight to fail. Admit to a bit of fear of trying it again. Additionally, don't like the Supernova tail light as I prefer something with a reflector. But no other tail light is compatible with the E3. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 7, 11:31 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Eric: will you share with us your rear light wiring strategy? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Not according to Peter White. He says you can only use Supernovas with other Supernovas: Supernova lights are not compatible with other brands of lights. You can't mix and match Supernova headlights with other brands of taillight, and you can't use Supernova taillights with other brands of headlight. Supernova lights come with tough wiring for the taillight that is hard wired. They do not use the same metric connectors as used by Busch Müller, Wilfried Schmidt and Spanninga. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:57 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28? Thanks, Eric. I'm thinking of converting at least two bikes to dyno powered tail lamps and any wiring info is useful. 'Nother question: can you use the E3 tail light with, say an Edeluxe or Cyo? On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:43 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Patrick, On the bike with the rear wired tail light, just ran the wire across the rack held down with zip ties, then a few wraps around one of the rack stays, along the top tube (again held with zip ties), to the brake cable housing, then down parallel to the bike computer wire to the light. At that point, the wires were soldered together and covered in shrink wrap. Very basic, but should keep the tail light wires away from sludge and crud in winter. It's a non-Rivendell (Surly LHT) with Tubus rear rack and the BM Toplight Line Plus bolted to the rear rack. Have not come up with a satisfactory wiring system for the E3 and corresponding tail light on the Sam Hillborne. The previous wiring actually caused the headlight to fail. Admit to a bit of fear of trying it again. Additionally, don't like the Supernova tail light as I prefer something with a reflector. But no other tail light is compatible with the E3. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 7, 11:31 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Eric: will you share with us your rear light wiring strategy? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I currently use a Philips LED SafeRide Synamo light I got from Bike24.com http://www.bike24.net/p219881.html I have a review and comparison of it between an IQ CYO-RT on the candlepower forums. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?317543-Quick-notes-on-Philips-SafeRide-vs.-B-amp-M-IQ-CYO-RT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hoJQ1bJRJFkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Oh well; wonder if it's just the connectors. I like the small, compact, easy-mount design of the E3 taillight. I may try a hack -- can't see why a very low power LED tail would not work with a typical LED 3 w headlight. Thanks for the PJW text. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Not according to Peter White. He says you can only use Supernovas with other Supernovas: Supernova lights are not compatible with other brands of lights. You can't mix and match Supernova headlights with other brands of taillight, and you can't use Supernova taillights with other brands of headlight. Supernova lights come with tough wiring for the taillight that is hard wired. They do not use the same metric connectors as used by Busch Müller, Wilfried Schmidt and Spanninga. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:57 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28? Thanks, Eric. I'm thinking of converting at least two bikes to dyno powered tail lamps and any wiring info is useful. 'Nother question: can you use the E3 tail light with, say an Edeluxe or Cyo? On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:43 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Patrick, On the bike with the rear wired tail light, just ran the wire across the rack held down with zip ties, then a few wraps around one of the rack stays, along the top tube (again held with zip ties), to the brake cable housing, then down parallel to the bike computer wire to the light. At that point, the wires were soldered together and covered in shrink wrap. Very basic, but should keep the tail light wires away from sludge and crud in winter. It's a non-Rivendell (Surly LHT) with Tubus rear rack and the BM Toplight Line Plus bolted to the rear rack. Have not come up with a satisfactory wiring system for the E3 and corresponding tail light on the Sam Hillborne. The previous wiring actually caused the headlight to fail. Admit to a bit of fear of trying it again. Additionally, don't like the Supernova tail light as I prefer something with a reflector. But no other tail light is compatible with the E3. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 7, 11:31 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Eric: will you share with us your rear light wiring strategy? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
The E3 is not designed like a low beam. Just a round, bright light. I would think that even on a handlebar, the light should not be overly bothersome to other folks on a trail. It's not nearly as bright as some 600 lumen lights out there. (There is a local commuter who uses that on the road and it totally blinds me.) On the lubrication of the Shimano - don't believe it's an easy job to pre-lubricate the dynohub as there are wires inside that can easily break with removal. My shop mechanic doesn't like messing with them. The newer Alfine hubs are supposedly better. My wife's Shimano dynohub is dying slowly due to corrosion of the terminal strips where the wires attach. Because of the grounding circuit one gets quite corroded during winter. It might be possible to solder on a new copper strip to keep things going. My scraping to get to good copper has just about worn through the strip in about 4 years. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 5, 10:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: That's one of their benefits: the lights are designed to shine like auto low beams: bright for illumination but not for oncomers' eyes. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the Edelux, Cyo R, and others, are these lights so bright that runners, bikers and other commuter path users will hate me?! I like the brightness on a gravel road, but in the city, I don't want to annoy folks. Thanks, Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Liesl, Are you going to swap the dyno wheel between bikes as well? If so i think Scott G's arrangement is the easiest to move back and forth, other-wise you'll need to have disconnects at both ends for the wiring on each bike. I've got a number of the mounts mentioned here, the VO QR end mount, a Gino's Mount for a Nitto Rack and fork mount which i use on the front of my rack. i think the light down low is the most useful for me to illuminate the ground, but the light at the rack level is better for me to be seen. Sometimes i'll add a battery powered light as a flasher. I don't like the handlebar mounts as i always have things on the front of the bike which would block the light. I'm using a simple (and cheap) DLumotec LED light at the moment, been thinking about an edelux, i might pull the trigger this winter when i'm redoing the front-end on my bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Are you going to swap the dyno wheel between bikes as well? If so i think Scott G's arrangement is the easiest to move back and forth, other-wise you'll need to have disconnects at both ends for the wiring on each bike. Yes, my hope is that both the dyno wheel and the light will be going back and forth to some extent. The E3, though it would cost a fortune, could be set up nicely for swapping using their new handlebar mount and possibly connectors to leave the wiring in place. But it would would be heavy and pricey. On positioning, I have liked having a bright light on the bars and even up on my helmet; my guess is that a light down low on an axle could be a problem in snow. Minh and Scott, have you used this set up in snow? As in deep snow banks on the sides of streets and at corners? Still weighing pros and cons, and pros and cons against costs ... all the perspectives and photos in this thread are extraordinarily helpful, especially my fellow winter riders and twin cities rivsters. Thank you! More thoughts welcomed! -liesl minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Lot's a good, pratical user experience in this thread! Regarding Cyo, how does it hold up under bucketing rain? Does it take on water? I've read some concerns about it not being as tight as the Edelux... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
You need to use the anti-corrosion grease made for electrical connections available at your friendly NAPA auto parts store. This will cut down on the problem significantly when you get a new connection piece. Is there enough of the old connection to lead solder a new tab that you can hand fabricate? On Sep 6, 3:29 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: The E3 is not designed like a low beam. Just a round, bright light. I would think that even on a handlebar, the light should not be overly bothersome to other folks on a trail. It's not nearly as bright as some 600 lumen lights out there. (There is a local commuter who uses that on the road and it totally blinds me.) On the lubrication of the Shimano - don't believe it's an easy job to pre-lubricate the dynohub as there are wires inside that can easily break with removal. My shop mechanic doesn't like messing with them. The newer Alfine hubs are supposedly better. My wife's Shimano dynohub is dying slowly due to corrosion of the terminal strips where the wires attach. Because of the grounding circuit one gets quite corroded during winter. It might be possible to solder on a new copper strip to keep things going. My scraping to get to good copper has just about worn through the strip in about 4 years. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 5, 10:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: That's one of their benefits: the lights are designed to shine like auto low beams: bright for illumination but not for oncomers' eyes. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the Edelux, Cyo R, and others, are these lights so bright that runners, bikers and other commuter path users will hate me?! I like the brightness on a gravel road, but in the city, I don't want to annoy folks. Thanks, Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I would set up one bike for the generator lighting for now and not touch it. Get another light system for the other bike or use it in warmer weather. When you start connecting and disconnecting routinely you are asking for problems IMHO. On Sep 6, 8:08 pm, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: Are you going to swap the dyno wheel between bikes as well? If so i think Scott G's arrangement is the easiest to move back and forth, other-wise you'll need to have disconnects at both ends for the wiring on each bike. Yes, my hope is that both the dyno wheel and the light will be going back and forth to some extent. The E3, though it would cost a fortune, could be set up nicely for swapping using their new handlebar mount and possibly connectors to leave the wiring in place. But it would would be heavy and pricey. On positioning, I have liked having a bright light on the bars and even up on my helmet; my guess is that a light down low on an axle could be a problem in snow. Minh and Scott, have you used this set up in snow? As in deep snow banks on the sides of streets and at corners? Still weighing pros and cons, and pros and cons against costs ... all the perspectives and photos in this thread are extraordinarily helpful, especially my fellow winter riders and twin cities rivsters. Thank you! More thoughts welcomed! -liesl minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Hello, I have to agree re: the IQ CYO. I used the N plus variant for two very cold, very dark Northern Wyoming winters. The N plus put a lot of light on the road. As far as quick release. Velo-orange sells a mount that replaces the nut on your hub quick release. So the light would move with the wheel between bikes if one were so inclined. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/lighting/dynamo/low-down-light-mount-type-ii.html I used that mount for the aforementioned two winters. I'm down to one bike and am using the rack mount as an attachment point, so I would be willing to part with it. Just a thought. Good luck with your wheel/light/mount journey. On Sep 5, 12:10 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: IQ Cyo: half the price of the Edeluxe with (as far as I can tell) 100% of the light, tho' without the nice aluminum case and better than at least the older Flys, which are still decent. (I have all three.) FWIW, unless you are interested in top o' the line, a Shimano dynohub at almost 2/3 cheaper and with 9/10 of the function of the SON is also a better value: just have the shop adjust and lube the bearings before use. The principal benefit of Edeluxe, Fly, Cyo are that they have well designed reflectors that put the light where it ought to go instead of just shoving it out anyhow. I know from experience that pure lumens (I used a HiD light for a while) don't necessarily give better illumination. But the Supernova can be seen at ABQ's blazing full noon sunlight in June at a 1 mile altitude from 1/4 mile away -- I've seen one oncoming on our bike path. (In case you don't know from high desert sun, put it this way: it makes smog-free, West LA light look like twilight.) It must be like a 100W bulb at night. These lights aren't QR, but I have at home a quick attach fork leg devise that screws onto a plastic strap that could be used for quick changes. (Not offering to sell, just pointing out the possiblity.) Speaking of lights: isn't this Kool?https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5647507277165... One-piece bottle dyno-cum-LED lamp with blinkie standlight with remote on/off lever that attaches to bar. Too bad it's all plastic. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Liesl lchat...@smm.org wrote: Hi all, Those Riv folks are the best; after my RivChica Warrior escapade, I got a card signed by everyone at Riv and an Award for Kindness and Bravery! in the form of a generous gift certificate. Made me grin from ear-to-ear for days. Anyway, my certificate is being applied toward (and making possible) a 650B Velocity Synergy front wheel with a Schmidt SON28 dyno hub. My intention is to be able to swap both it and a light back an forth between the Saluki and the ProtoBleriot. So I'm looking for recommendations on lights. I've read and reread the material on the Peter White site, and am looking at the Supernova E3 and the Schmidt Edelux, or the BM Lumotec IQ Fly. Considerations riding style: the vast majority of my riding is urban commuting, 10 miles each way. I ride all 4 seasons and here in Minnesota, winter lighting is really important--I want a bright light. I do not do any crazy fast descents. (I do not do any crazy fast, period--except when chasing bike burglars.) I have a Nitto Mini Front on the Saluki, and the Saluki has fork blade braze- ons. The Proto has no braze-ons and is rack-free. I am imagining having a handlebar mount (both have m'bars) so the light can go back and forth. Curious about wiring set-ups that can move back and forth within 5 minutes or less. Not thinking of dyno-run tailights. Am thinking of LED's. Okay! Fire away with opinions and experience! And thanks in advance for your help. liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Here is a Cyo using a BM handle bar mount and the Velo Orange skewer mount gadget. A little low but used it this way for a few months. http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/sg8357/Scott-Goldsmith/Chris-Kvale-2005/Cyo1.jpg.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eIHGZIyK6EIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Congratulations!!! If you can afford it, get the Edelux. Here's a photo of mine on the Atlantis under the Nitto Mini/Platrack using the bracket sold by Rene Herse http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-341/Light-Bracket-for-Edelux/Detail . *http://tinyurl.com/3oqgkqx* The light is great, the senso feature is wonderful even though it turns the light on even during the day when it's not sunny and bright (great for extra visibility) and its coverage is perfect. You won't be blinding pedestrians or cars. René On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Here is a Cyo using a BM handle bar mount and the Velo Orange skewer mount gadget. A little low but used it this way for a few months. http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/sg8357/Scott-Goldsmith/Chris-Kvale-2005/Cyo1.jpg.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eIHGZIyK6EIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
X2 on Edelux .. We have them on three of the bikes and love them. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/m1zhEFHXZFQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I have the E3 on my Sam Hillborne. A good wide light. Bright but with lots of spill to the sides and up. One advantage, it is available in a quick release handlebar mount. A co-worker has that on one of her Rivendell bikes and has excellent results in winter. Also have the Cyo on another bike. Personally prefer that light pattern both in summer and winter. The Cyo is narrower and focused. But the light seems to go where I want to see better. Unfortunately, it does not have a good quick release mount, although am sure some method could be devised. Oh, and Patrick, for Minnesota winters, the SON is the better choice. My wife is lucky in her Shimano dynohub has lasted a few years. Most last two (or three at most). Moisture gets inside and they can't be rebuilt. On the ones I've had, usually have to scrape down one of the contacts once or twice a winter to get rid of corrosion from the weather. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 5, 7:51 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: X2 on Edelux .. We have them on three of the bikes and love them. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
Regarding the Edelux, Cyo R, and others, are these lights so bright that runners, bikers and other commuter path users will hate me?! I like the brightness on a gravel road, but in the city, I don't want to annoy folks. Thanks, Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
I've read that Shimano dynohubs are too tight and too dry when new and that proactive adjustment and lubing makes them live much longer. Was the early death due to the winter or the initial bearing problem? Dunno myself, that's just what I read in BQ; I have the shop repack and adjust all new Shimanos that I buy. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:07 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Oh, and Patrick, for Minnesota winters, the SON is the better choice. My wife is lucky in her Shimano dynohub has lasted a few years. Most last two (or three at most). Moisture gets inside and they can't be rebuilt. On the ones I've had, usually have to scrape down one of the contacts once or twice a winter to get rid of corrosion from the weather. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN I agree that for Minnesota winters Shimanos are not up to the task. My first Shimano lasted about 1.5 winters. My current one has been through two winters (I now store the bike in the garage in the winter so there is less temperature change and less moisture), but I don't think that it will make it through this winter -- it is not quite right now. When my current Shimano dies, I will probably just use my battery lights. I have a short commute, I don't want to spend the cash on that bike for a SON and I am tired of buying a new Shimano every couple years. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights for a Schmidt SON28?
That's one of their benefits: the lights are designed to shine like auto low beams: bright for illumination but not for oncomers' eyes. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the Edelux, Cyo R, and others, are these lights so bright that runners, bikers and other commuter path users will hate me?! I like the brightness on a gravel road, but in the city, I don't want to annoy folks. Thanks, Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights, lights, lights
It's a 2003 custom road bike built for 559 or 571 wheels (currently 559X31). It handles fine with less than 10 lb in front (it will carry 25 easily in the back). The front rack is a VO Randonneur rack, the rear a custom. The light strut needs some polishing and smoothing -- it's hard aluminum! The new bag will go on this rack. Fenders (flat Civias) coming. The bike, sans bags, pump and bottles with with lights and racks weighs 21 1/2 lb. I've got another very similar Riv that is unburdened with racks or anything else except a single bottle cage. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ely Rodriguez elyk...@gmail.com wrote: Is that just a regular road bike with a rack mounted to it with P-clamps? I really like that. Any wobbling? or criticism? I really want to try that with my steel road bike, putting a small/medium rando bar bag in the front. Maybe mounting a light as well. I've made a front light mount like that as well, just not as carved. Really pretty, I like the lines. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TA1G8G69N4wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights, lights, lights
And no wobbling: I had a VO ss strut that wobbled considerably, which is why I took a shot at my own. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:55 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: It's a 2003 custom road bike built for 559 or 571 wheels (currently 559X31). It handles fine with less than 10 lb in front (it will carry 25 easily in the back). The front rack is a VO Randonneur rack, the rear a custom. The light strut needs some polishing and smoothing -- it's hard aluminum! The new bag will go on this rack. Fenders (flat Civias) coming. The bike, sans bags, pump and bottles with with lights and racks weighs 21 1/2 lb. I've got another very similar Riv that is unburdened with racks or anything else except a single bottle cage. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ely Rodriguez elyk...@gmail.com wrote: Is that just a regular road bike with a rack mounted to it with P-clamps? I really like that. Any wobbling? or criticism? I really want to try that with my steel road bike, putting a small/medium rando bar bag in the front. Maybe mounting a light as well. I've made a front light mount like that as well, just not as carved. Really pretty, I like the lines. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TA1G8G69N4wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights, lights, lights
Patrick, I included the Cyo official mount for the fork crown and the VO mount that fits on the rack eyelet. Whilst on light mountology, anyone mount a Supernova E3 to Nitto m12 ?, did you the multimount or some other widget. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/d3Ft32UqoQ8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lights, lights, lights
Hi! Do you know of a good place on the web to order smallish quantities of the kind of aluminum stock you used for your light? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pGC_GB3uSQUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
