RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
The that Barbara Stanwyck western still come on? I kinda like that one and Bonanza From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:17 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY They have a western channel that replays all of the old western tv shows and movies. My father watches it continuously. Its called the Encore Western Channel on comscum digital. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: On what channel? I have one on Comcast, WSBR (or something like that), that shows older stuff. One morning I turned on the tube at 2 am, to see Daniel Boone! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:02:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:51 PM Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:53:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I love,
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover?
I have a problem with the box nerb part. It's like it pays homage to Walmart and the like. I kinda liked Chuck when it first started, but I think it has grown. Reaper had potential but lost steam quickly -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:18 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover? Am I the only one on this list who doesn't like Chuck? I thought it was the weaker of the two big box nerd shows, preferring Reaper. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: McG produces Chuck Rave. I thought it was a little weak, but has potential. I'm going to give it a chance -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:20 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover? Oh, I see, I am in the wrong thread (silly me, who would think of putting their Human Target comments in the Is anyone watching Human Target thread?). To quote Jay Sherman, the Critic: It Stinks! First of all, I felt like I was re-watching the premiere episode of SuperTrain, and nobody should have to do that twice. Secondly, it wastes the talents of two very good actors in Chi McBride and Jackie Earle Haley. In this regard, Human Target reminds me of Threshold, except Threshold was good. What a hokey, improbable set-up and execution. And, if Chi McBride is actually running this enterprise, why is he constantly getting punked by Mark Valley and Haley? Why is hero Christoper Chance (really?) negotiating their barter for hire instead of McBride (who, one would think, would be better qualified to handle such negotiations - or else, what is he there for?) I have a new rule of thumb: If it is produced by McG it has to suck! I did like Haley's feral little monkey-boy, though. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Yes, it was. Had to get out of my chair and look to be certain. And it wasn't bad at all. I really like the potential thrill-addict slant of Valley's Chance. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherwood@ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:00:14 -0500 Subject: [scifinoir2] Was that Danny Glover? LOL. OK, so I just watched human target and I liked it, I really liked it! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
It comes on in the mornings on tv land. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: The that Barbara Stanwyck western still come on? I kinda like that one and Bonanza *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mr. Worf *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 6:17 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY They have a western channel that replays all of the old western tv shows and movies. My father watches it continuously. Its called the Encore Western Channel on comscum digital. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: On what channel? I have one on Comcast, WSBR (or something like that), that shows older stuff. One morning I turned on the tube at 2 am, to see Daniel Boone! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:02:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. *MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis* --- On *Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. *MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis* --- On *Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net* wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:51 PM Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message -
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover?
I think Reaper didn't know which direction that it wanted to go in. It was a better show when it straddled the super natural and humor. You just cannot help but laugh at the DMV is the portal to hell reference. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I have a problem with the box nerb part. It's like it pays homage to Walmart and the like. I kinda liked Chuck when it first started, but I think it has grown. Reaper had potential but lost steam quickly -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:18 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover? Am I the only one on this list who doesn't like Chuck? I thought it was the weaker of the two big box nerd shows, preferring Reaper. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: McG produces Chuck Rave. I thought it was a little weak, but has potential. I'm going to give it a chance -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:20 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover? Oh, I see, I am in the wrong thread (silly me, who would think of putting their Human Target comments in the Is anyone watching Human Target thread?). To quote Jay Sherman, the Critic: It Stinks! First of all, I felt like I was re-watching the premiere episode of SuperTrain, and nobody should have to do that twice. Secondly, it wastes the talents of two very good actors in Chi McBride and Jackie Earle Haley. In this regard, Human Target reminds me of Threshold, except Threshold was good. What a hokey, improbable set-up and execution. And, if Chi McBride is actually running this enterprise, why is he constantly getting punked by Mark Valley and Haley? Why is hero Christoper Chance (really?) negotiating their barter for hire instead of McBride (who, one would think, would be better qualified to handle such negotiations - or else, what is he there for?) I have a new rule of thumb: If it is produced by McG it has to suck! I did like Haley's feral little monkey-boy, though. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Yes, it was. Had to get out of my chair and look to be certain. And it wasn't bad at all. I really like the potential thrill-addict slant of Valley's Chance. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherwood@ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:00:14 -0500 Subject: [scifinoir2] Was that Danny Glover? LOL. OK, so I just watched human target and I liked it, I really liked it! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
I like how the princess kicks the butts of Robinhood and his merry men in Shrek, but overall I've never gotten that worked up over Robinhood. However, Kind Arthur and Sword and Sorcery... that's another story -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:15 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood One man's junk is another man's treasure. I love Kevin Costner's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Morgan Freeman as Azeem, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Maid Marian, Christian Slater as Will Scarlet and Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Frankly, I am not a fan of the Robin Hood genre, in general, as most of them have been a little too merry for my my tastes. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
I was in heaven. I used to hate having to leave my apartment to see clients From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:52 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY That sounds interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing that too. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I remember that. As someone who worked from home, I watched all that stuff. They also showed some cancelled scifi shows from the 80’s and early 90’s. I also remember something called pilot playhouse, which was basically failed scifi pilots. It was great From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:42 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Ah... The Good Old Days. Again, are we forwarding these t the appropriate parties, in the faint hopes that change might be effected? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: jaxl...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:28:07 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY As I recall, a dozen or so years ago Sy-Fy nee' Sci-Fi filled most of its daily programming with not just The Invaders but Lost In Space, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of The Sea, Time Tunnel, Star Trek, Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica, Galactica 1980, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, War of the Worlds, V, the original Outer Limits and even some more off-trail stuff like Thriller. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 3:13 PM I know, Keith. I almost jumped for joy when I happened to surf across the channel and saw the synopsis for the ep. Good stuff, long past... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:51:21 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:53:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I love, love, LOVED this show when it was on (but then I was a sucker for the whole Quinn Martin ouevre: Twelve O'Clock High, The Fugitive). Watching it now is kind of like watching old Wild, Wild West episodes (fake-looking sets, bad wigs, extremely fake-looking fight scenes and strident, god-awful music!). The aliens did die cool, though. ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: Well, this is odd. SyFy is running an all day marathon of the classic TV series The Invaders. This was the original aliens walk among us plotting to take over the world show, the forerunner for aspects of everything from The X-Files (on which the lead had a part, I believe), to Third Wave. This was a classic '60s scifi series, with the look and great guest stars that distinguished shows of that era. So far I've seen Roddie McDowall and Suzanne Pleshette. Check it out. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] 'Paranormal Activity 2' rushing to theaters with 'Saw VI' director
Showing that Paramount intends to rake every dollar out of Paranormal Activity that it can, the studio has hired screenwriter Michael R. Perry and director Kevin Greutert to bring Paranormal Activity 2 to theaters. And not only is it coming, it's coming quick. According to The Hollywood Reporter http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/01/paranormal-activity-2-gets-ready-with -saw-vi-director-.html , the studio intends to have the sequel face off against the next Saw this Halloween weekend. While Oren Peli won't be directing the he told the trade These guys get it, an the fans won't be disappointed. Peli, who is producing alongside original partner Jason Blum, is putting a lot of confidence in Greutert, who edited the first five Saw movies and directed the sixth. Perry, is a longtime TV writer (The Guardian) who made waves on 2009's Black List (a competition where agents and execs select their favorite spec scripts). No word on whether Paranormal Activity 2 will be the film's actual title or what the storyline will be, but don't expect a massive increase in budget. Peli has kept busy with Area 51 which Paramount will release later this year. The last time a phenomenon like Paranormal rushed out a sequel was a decade ago when Book of Shadows: The Blair Witch Project 2 was a massive disappointment without the original filmmakers involved. Peli and Blum appear to be involved to make sure that scenario doesn't repeat itself. Are you up forward to another Paranormal Activity? Share your thoughts below. http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2010-1-19-paranormal-activity-2-rushing-to-th eaters-with-saw-vi-director
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Yeah, the Errol Flynn version is full of men laughing merrily, but that's the main vision of Robin throughout the ages. I liked the Patrick Bergan/Uma Thurman version as it was less...colorful. But Costner's? Dude that was dreck! His accent kept fading in and out, for some reason Freeman's character shoehorned in irritated me (and i typically love it when people add people of color to a story like that), and it was just weak. But as you say, some people might like it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:15:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood One man's junk is another man's treasure. I love Kevin Costner's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Morgan Freeman as Azeem, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Maid Marian, Christian Slater as Will Scarlet and Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Frankly, I am not a fan of the Robin Hood genre, in general, as most of them have been a little too merry for my my tastes. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/
[scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
Loved The Big Valley starring Miss Barbara Stanwyck! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: The that Barbara Stanwyck western still come on? I kinda like that one and Bonanza From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:17 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY They have a western channel that replays all of the old western tv shows and movies. My father watches it continuously. Its called the Encore Western Channel on comscum digital. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: On what channel? I have one on Comcast, WSBR (or something like that), that shows older stuff. One morning I turned on the tube at 2 am, to see Daniel Boone! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:02:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:51 PM Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
TVLand shows Bonanza and the color episodes of Gunsmoke every day. The Western Channel airs the bw episodes of Gunsmoke every night. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:49 AM Loved The Big Valley starring Miss Barbara Stanwyck! ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: The that Barbara Stanwyck western still come on? I kinda like that one and Bonanza From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:17 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY They have a western channel that replays all of the old western tv shows and movies. My father watches it continuously. Its called the Encore Western Channel on comscum digital. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: On what channel? I have one on Comcast, WSBR (or something like that), that shows older stuff. One morning I turned on the tube at 2 am, to see Daniel Boone! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@... To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:02:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:51 PM Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of
[scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
People might have liked Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to the tune of $390 million worldwide - I'm just saying. I was trying to find the box office for Bergin's Robin Hood when it hit me - Robin Hood was a TELEVISION movie. Didn't see it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Yeah, the Errol Flynn version is full of men laughing merrily, but that's the main vision of Robin throughout the ages. I liked the Patrick Bergan/Uma Thurman version as it was less...colorful. But Costner's? Dude that was dreck! His accent kept fading in and out, for some reason Freeman's character shoehorned in irritated me (and i typically love it when people add people of color to a story like that), and it was just weak. But as you say, some people might like it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:15:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood  One man's junk is another man's treasure. I love Kevin Costner's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Morgan Freeman as Azeem, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Maid Marian, Christian Slater as Will Scarlet and Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Frankly, I am not a fan of the Robin Hood genre, in general, as most of them have been a little too merry for my my tastes. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/
Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Do you not like Crowe, Crowe in this role, or a *buff* Crowe as Robin? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
The Bergin version was more enjoyable. Thurman was a tough, plucky Marian. It's the first role I ever saw Thurman in, I believe, and I liked it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:08:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood People might have liked Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to the tune of $390 million worldwide - I'm just saying. I was trying to find the box office for Bergin's Robin Hood when it hit me - Robin Hood was a TELEVISION movie. Didn't see it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Yeah, the Errol Flynn version is full of men laughing merrily, but that's the main vision of Robin throughout the ages. I liked the Patrick Bergan/Uma Thurman version as it was less...colorful. But Costner's? Dude that was dreck! His accent kept fading in and out, for some reason Freeman's character shoehorned in irritated me (and i typically love it when people add people of color to a story like that), and it was just weak. But as you say, some people might like it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:15:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood  One man's junk is another man's treasure. I love Kevin Costner's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Morgan Freeman as Azeem, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Maid Marian, Christian Slater as Will Scarlet and Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Frankly, I am not a fan of the Robin Hood genre, in general, as most of them have been a little too merry for my my tastes. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/
[scifinoir2] Action chicks that should (well...I'm not really into that)
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
I went through a Bonanza phase about two years ago. I Love Big Valley with Barbara Stanwyck too. I think it used to come on the western channel, but I do not think so anymore From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ellis Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:02 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY TVLand shows Bonanza and the color episodes of Gunsmoke every day. The Western Channel airs the bw episodes of Gunsmoke every night. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:49 AM Loved The Big Valley starring Miss Barbara Stanwyck! ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: The that Barbara Stanwyck western still come on? I kinda like that one and Bonanza From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:17 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY They have a western channel that replays all of the old western tv shows and movies. My father watches it continuously. Its called the Encore Western Channel on comscum digital. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: On what channel? I have one on Comcast, WSBR (or something like that), that shows older stuff. One morning I turned on the tube at 2 am, to see Daniel Boone! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@... To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:02:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than
[scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood?
I hear that RTD is going to the States to do a US version of Torchwood with Fox. I'm wondering if there'll be official confirmation on this, or it'll turn out to be a sick joke... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
Re: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood?
Yuck! I don't want a US version. I like Torchwood just like it is. It's a great show and I'd hate to see it fug'd up on Fox. The only international show I want a US version of is Satisfaction On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that RTD is going to the States to do a US version of Torchwood with Fox. I'm wondering if there'll be official confirmation on this, or it'll turn out to be a sick joke... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
I don't like Crowe, I definitely don't like Crowe in this role, and were it anyone else, I would potentially have an open mind to a buffer darker and more violent guy, but that's not how I see Robin and I doubt I will associate this new thing with what I feel about Robin and His Merry Men. I think I'll go watch Cary Elwes in Men in Tights now. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:21:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Do you not like Crowe, Crowe in this role, or a *buff* Crowe as Robin? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood?
Amen! What is satisfaction? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Street Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:34 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? Yuck! I don't want a US version. I like Torchwood just like it is. It's a great show and I'd hate to see it fug'd up on Fox. The only international show I want a US version of is Satisfaction On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that RTD is going to the States to do a US version of Torchwood with Fox. I'm wondering if there'll be official confirmation on this, or it'll turn out to be a sick joke... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
Re: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood?
It's like Desperate Housewives meets a whore house. It's a brilliant show. It's on netflix if you want to watch it. http://www.australiantelevision.net/satisfaction/ On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Amen! What is satisfaction? *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Street *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:34 AM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? Yuck! I don't want a US version. I like Torchwood just like it is. It's a great show and I'd hate to see it fug'd up on Fox. The only international show I want a US version of is Satisfaction On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that RTD is going to the States to do a US version of Torchwood with Fox. I'm wondering if there'll be official confirmation on this, or it'll turn out to be a sick joke... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
[scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
I am watching the Hunt the Man episode of Have Gun, Will Travel and right in the opening scene I am reminded of the one thing I didn't like about the series, Paladin's Chinese man-servant is named Hey Boy. Interesting side note: the actor who played Hey Boy played a character named House Boy in his first credit The General Died At Dawn in 1936 and ended his career in 1969 playing House Boy on The Big Valley. Is this a great country, or what? ~(no)rave! (by the by, the great thing about watching these old episodes on Encore is no commercials! The bane of watching old television episodes is the quadrillion commercials). --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Have Gun Will Travel? Did someone say Have Gun Will Travel? I LOVE Richard Boone's Paladin! Where is my DVR remote control? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Ellis jaxler2@ wrote: Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke.  MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM  And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY  Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY  It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:51 PM  Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
That's even worse than Hop Sing! The wild thing about commercials is that they're worse now than back in the day! If you watch any re-aired eps of Star Trek, for example (especially the OS and TNG), you can catch snippets of the show missing here and there. The shows have been edited to shorten their length, as there's more time devoted to commercials in a TV hour nowadays than there used to be. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:56:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I am watching the Hunt the Man episode of Have Gun, Will Travel and right in the opening scene I am reminded of the one thing I didn't like about the series, Paladin's Chinese man-servant is named Hey Boy. Interesting side note: the actor who played Hey Boy played a character named House Boy in his first credit The General Died At Dawn in 1936 and ended his career in 1969 playing House Boy on The Big Valley. Is this a great country, or what? ~(no)rave! (by the by, the great thing about watching these old episodes on Encore is no commercials! The bane of watching old television episodes is the quadrillion commercials). --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Have Gun Will Travel? Did someone say Have Gun Will Travel? I LOVE Richard Boone's Paladin! Where is my DVR remote control? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Mark Ellis jaxler2@ wrote: Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke.  MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM  And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY  Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY  It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To:
RE: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood?
I will check it out From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Street Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:56 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? It's like Desperate Housewives meets a whore house. It's a brilliant show. It's on netflix if you want to watch it. http://www.australiantelevision.net/satisfaction/ On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Amen! What is satisfaction? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Street Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:34 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? Yuck! I don't want a US version. I like Torchwood just like it is. It's a great show and I'd hate to see it fug'd up on Fox. The only international show I want a US version of is Satisfaction On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that RTD is going to the States to do a US version of Torchwood with Fox. I'm wondering if there'll be official confirmation on this, or it'll turn out to be a sick joke... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Action chicks that should (well...I'm not really into that)
My list starts and ends with pam Grier. The rest are just pretenders. From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 11:55:24 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Action chicks that should (well...I'm not really into that) More Action Chicks That Should Spank Me Monday, January 18th, 2010 | Being dominated in the bedroom by a leather-clad chick is a pretty popular fantasy… and thanks to these vicious vixens, we get a good visual. These chicks some of the best action babes – both for their uber hotness and their credibility. When I see Kate Beckinsale in Underworld, i'm 50% turned on and 50% afraid. She is good. Summer Glau – Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles Although I'm not sure if the Sarah Connor Chronicles are still on the air (who knows anymore with the cancel-happy TV executives) … but they deserve to be. Not only does Summer Glau make terminating (a verb?) look chic, but she is super hot and her body is just … wow. Apparently she got her body from being a ballerina for years. This leads me to the conclusion that the entire female population should be forced to be ballerinas at age 5. Kate Beckinsale – Underworld Van Helsing As both vampire and vampire hunter, Kate Beckinsale rules. She has a kickass athletic body and the face of an angel – the perfect woman. Actually, I'm not quite convinced she isn't some super-advanced sex robot in a full-body leather outfit. No woman can possibly be as perfect as Kate. Say hello to my future wife of 2010. Halle Berry – Catwoman X-men Hello, pussycat! Now, Catwoman may not have been the best movie… but I certainly can't stop watching it. Do you see what Halle Berry looks like in a leather cat outfit? Oh my God. Halle Berry deserves all of the recognition she gets; her breasts are gifts from heaven and she actually has some decent acting chops (Swordfish, Monster's Ball, etc). I think Cleveland, Ohio has only produced two good things: Halle Berry and LeBron James. Angelina Jolie – Wanted, Tomb Raider, Mr. And Mrs. Smith Angelina Jolie certainly has a case of the awesomes going on. It seems that no matter what she touches, it turns to gold. All of her action roles are completely amazing – most notably the Tomb Raider movies. Why that, you ask? Well I grew up playing Tomb Raider and actually seeing Lara Croft be f'n hot? Let's just say I brought an extra change of pants to the movie theater.
RE: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood?
HAS to be a joke. If the word on Fox isn't out by now regarding how they treat SF series... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:30:23 -0500 Subject: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? I hear that RTD is going to the States to do a US version of Torchwood with Fox. I'm wondering if there'll be official confirmation on this, or it'll turn out to be a sick joke... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
I did have that thought, Mr Worf. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:07:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY This show is ripe for a parody. Did anyone trip on how the earth looks in the beginning? Baja and Mexico looks about twice the size of the US. I have watched two episodes so far. If you're an alien species with advanced technology why would you need to get a guy drunk and make it look like he was drunk driving to discredit him? On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo.com wrote: Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:51 PM Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:53:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I love, love, LOVED this show when it was on (but then I was a sucker for the whole Quinn
RE: [scifinoir2] 'Paranormal Activity 2' rushing to theaters with 'Saw VI' director
While Oren Peli won't be directing the he told the trade These guys get it, an the fans won't be disappointed. Right... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:41:28 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] 'Paranormal Activity 2' rushing to theaters with 'Saw VI' director Showing that Paramount intends to rake every dollar out of Paranormal Activity that it can, the studio has hired screenwriter Michael R. Perry and director Kevin Greutert to bring Paranormal Activity 2 to theaters. And not only is it coming, it's coming quick. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the studio intends to have the sequel face off against the next Saw this Halloween weekend. While Oren Peli won't be directing the he told the trade These guys get it, an the fans won't be disappointed. Peli, who is producing alongside original partner Jason Blum, is putting a lot of confidence in Greutert, who edited the first five Saw movies and directed the sixth. Perry, is a longtime TV writer (The Guardian) who made waves on 2009's Black List (a competition where agents and execs select their favorite spec scripts). No word on whether Paranormal Activity 2 will be the film's actual title or what the storyline will be, but don't expect a massive increase in budget. Peli has kept busy with Area 51 which Paramount will release later this year. The last time a phenomenon like Paranormal rushed out a sequel was a decade ago when Book of Shadows: The Blair Witch Project 2 was a massive disappointment without the original filmmakers involved. Peli and Blum appear to be involved to make sure that scenario doesn't repeat itself. Are you up forward to another Paranormal Activity? Share your thoughts below. http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2010-1-19-paranormal-activity-2-rushing-to-theaters-with-saw-vi-director _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
rave, to quote the Late, Great Marvin, Makes me wanna holler... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:56:20 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I am watching the Hunt the Man episode of Have Gun, Will Travel and right in the opening scene I am reminded of the one thing I didn't like about the series, Paladin's Chinese man-servant is named Hey Boy. Interesting side note: the actor who played Hey Boy played a character named House Boy in his first credit The General Died At Dawn in 1936 and ended his career in 1969 playing House Boy on The Big Valley. Is this a great country, or what? ~(no)rave! (by the by, the great thing about watching these old episodes on Encore is no commercials! The bane of watching old television episodes is the quadrillion commercials). --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Have Gun Will Travel? Did someone say Have Gun Will Travel? I LOVE Richard Boone's Paladin! Where is my DVR remote control? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Ellis jaxler2@ wrote: Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke.  MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM  And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY  Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY  It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:51 PM  Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
No, it doesn't, Tracey. They cycled it out in favor of 'The Virginian. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:28:39 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I went through a Bonanza phase about two years ago. I Love Big Valley with Barbara Stanwyck too. I think it used to come on the western channel, but I do not think so anymore From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ellis Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:02 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY TVLand shows Bonanza and the color episodes of Gunsmoke every day. The Western Channel airs the bw episodes of Gunsmoke every night. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:49 AM Loved The Big Valley starring Miss Barbara Stanwyck! ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: The that Barbara Stanwyck western still come on? I kinda like that one and Bonanza From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:17 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY They have a western channel that replays all of the old western tv shows and movies. My father watches it continuously. Its called the Encore Western Channel on comscum digital. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: On what channel? I have one on Comcast, WSBR (or something like that), that shows older stuff. One morning I turned on the tube at 2 am, to see Daniel Boone! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@... To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:02:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi
RE: [scifinoir2] Action chicks that should (well...I'm not really into that)
If I'm allowed to venture into TV for candidates, I must choose Aeryn Sun and Jadzia Dax. Heck, Aeryn probably has her own cat-o'-nine-tails... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:55:24 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Action chicks that should (well...I'm not really into that) More Action Chicks That Should Spank MeMonday, January 18th, 2010 | Being dominated in the bedroom by a leather-clad chick is a pretty popular fantasy… and thanks to these vicious vixens, we get a good visual. These chicks some of the best action babes – both for their uber hotness and their credibility. When I see Kate Beckinsale in Underworld, i'm 50% turned on and 50% afraid. She is good.Summer Glau – Terminator: Sarah Connor ChroniclesAlthough I'm not sure if the Sarah Connor Chronicles are still on the air (who knows anymore with the cancel-happy TV executives) … but they deserve to be. Not only does Summer Glau make terminating (a verb?) look chic, but she is super hot and her body is just … wow. Apparently she got her body from being a ballerina for years. This leads me to the conclusion that the entire female population should be forced to be ballerinas at age 5.Kate Beckinsale – Underworld Van HelsingAs both vampire and vampire hunter, Kate Beckinsale rules. She has a kickass athletic body and the face of an angel – the perfect woman. Actually, I'm not quite convinced she isn't some super-advanced sex robot in a full-body leather outfit. No woman can possibly be as perfect as Kate. Say hello to my future wife of 2010.Halle Berry – Catwoman X-menHello, pussycat! Now, Catwoman may not have been the best movie… but I certainly can't stop watching it. Do you see what Halle Berry looks like in a leather cat outfit? Oh my God. Halle Berry deserves all of the recognition she gets; her breasts are gifts from heaven and she actually has some decent acting chops (Swordfish, Monster's Ball, etc). I think Cleveland, Ohio has only produced two good things: Halle Berry and LeBron James.Angelina Jolie – Wanted, Tomb Raider, Mr. And Mrs. SmithAngelina Jolie certainly has a case of the awesomes going on. It seems that no matter what she touches, it turns to gold. All of her action roles are completely amazing – most notably the Tomb Raider movies. Why that, you ask? Well I grew up playing Tomb Raider and actually seeing Lara Croft be f'n hot? Let's just say I brought an extra change of pants to the movie theater. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Keith, as much as I love Morgan Freeman as an actor, I deny the existence of that version of the movie. I was given it as a Christmas gift the holiday after the movie came out, and I donated my copy to the library. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:15:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Yeah, the Errol Flynn version is full of men laughing merrily, but that's the main vision of Robin throughout the ages. I liked the Patrick Bergan/Uma Thurman version as it was less...colorful. But Costner's? Dude that was dreck! His accent kept fading in and out, for some reason Freeman's character shoehorned in irritated me (and i typically love it when people add people of color to a story like that), and it was just weak. But as you say, some people might like it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:15:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood One man's junk is another man's treasure. I love Kevin Costner's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Morgan Freeman as Azeem, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Maid Marian, Christian Slater as Will Scarlet and Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Frankly, I am not a fan of the Robin Hood genre, in general, as most of them have been a little too merry for my my tastes. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Aubrey, I don't have that one on hand... but I do have Time Bandits. John Cleese as Hood. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:40:02 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I don't like Crowe, I definitely don't like Crowe in this role, and were it anyone else, I would potentially have an open mind to a buffer darker and more violent guy, but that's not how I see Robin and I doubt I will associate this new thing with what I feel about Robin and His Merry Men. I think I'll go watch Cary Elwes in Men in Tights now. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:21:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Do you not like Crowe, Crowe in this role, or a *buff* Crowe as Robin? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes?
The slippery slope is my problem too, Tracey. I could see the Chinese engineering more boy births and fewer girl births, and someone might want to go the way of the Sauron supermen from The Mote In God's Eye (think the Augments from Enterprise, only meaner and less schemey). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:22:42 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? See, I have some genetic , incurable crap too. I think I would want that out to. However, I believe it is likely a slippery slope From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:23 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? In a word, no, not even if it meant ridding them of the genetic combo that gave me what I've got. Though an improvement on my genes would be an incalculable gain for Mankind... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:17:11 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? Very soon the option of gene manipulation may come available. There are already methods that lean in that direction. Our near future may turn into a world that is similar to the movie Gattica. If the option became available do you think that if this option were available would you take that step to give your child the best advantages that he or she can have? Another question. Do you think that this kind of gene manipulation weaken the gene pool? -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today
I can't really take marathons of shows either, Tracey, not even Doctor Who. I did have to tune out of The Invaders a couple of times, for my own sanity. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:18:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I enjoyed the last marathon I saw a few years ago, but I enjoyed it more for the nostalgia. I’m not sure if I would watch it all the time like same the twilight zone. Same thing with time tunnel. I watch it every once in a while , (they had it in Mexico, but I do not think I would go for it on a regular basis From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Tracey, I still do. The isolation and loneliness that Vincent had to be living with as he went, never fully knowing who he could trust. One ep this morn starred Suzanne Pleshette as a woman whom Vincent fell for (though he never betrayed the emotion, beyond his eyes), who was a quisling for the aliens. When he figured out that she'd betrayed him, he was gutshot. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:03:32 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I used to love that show. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:53 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Just fell across it. It's the original, with Roy Thinnes. IMO, worth a bit of time for the catch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
I agree with you all the way, Tracey. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:21:48 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I prefer them to syfy regular ”reality TV.” In fact, it seems to me that they should be showing exactly that in the middle of the day and late night. But they don’t. We love to vilify them for their decisions, but most of them are for short time profits. I think short –term ( quarterly) profits drive many of their decisions. If they own the rights, then something might be up with the ratings compared to the crap the show day in and day out. You need to remember, that scifi fans are not their target audience anymore. I would likely indulge in some of the old shows from time to time, but the people who like the most dangerous night on Television and Lots of those ghostbusters reality tv stuff. Real scifi fans don’t go for that type of stuff From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:08 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY For me, Tracey, they're holding up better than Siffy's usual fare. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:19:55 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I loved all those old shows. Scifi has shown them from time to time. Perhaps they do not do well with ratings. Because as Rave says, they do not hold up well From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:51 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:53:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I love, love, LOVED this show when it was on (but then I was a sucker for the whole Quinn Martin ouevre: Twelve O'Clock High, The Fugitive). Watching it now is kind of like watching old Wild, Wild West episodes (fake-looking sets, bad wigs, extremely fake-looking fight scenes and strident, god-awful music!). The aliens did die cool, though. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Well, this is odd. SyFy is running an all day marathon of the classic TV series The Invaders. This was the original aliens walk among us plotting to take over the world show, the forerunner for aspects of everything from The X-Files (on which the lead had a part, I believe), to Third Wave. This was a classic '60s scifi series, with the look and great guest stars that distinguished shows of that era. So far I've seen Roddie McDowall and Suzanne Pleshette. Check it out. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
Pilot Playhouse... (wiping tears of joy) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:31:44 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I remember that. As someone who worked from home, I watched all that stuff. They also showed some cancelled scifi shows from the 80’s and early 90’s. I also remember something called pilot playhouse, which was basically failed scifi pilots. It was great From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:42 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Ah... The Good Old Days. Again, are we forwarding these t the appropriate parties, in the faint hopes that change might be effected? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: jaxl...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:28:07 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY As I recall, a dozen or so years ago Sy-Fy nee' Sci-Fi filled most of its daily programming with not just The Invaders but Lost In Space, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of The Sea, Time Tunnel, Star Trek, Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica, Galactica 1980, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, War of the Worlds, V, the original Outer Limits and even some more off-trail stuff like Thriller. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 3:13 PM I know, Keith. I almost jumped for joy when I happened to surf across the channel and saw the synopsis for the ep. Good stuff, long past... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:51:21 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:53:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I love, love, LOVED this show when it was on (but then I was a sucker for the whole Quinn Martin ouevre: Twelve O'Clock High, The Fugitive). Watching it now is kind of like watching old Wild, Wild West episodes (fake-looking sets, bad wigs, extremely fake-looking fight scenes and strident, god-awful music!). The aliens did die cool, though. ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: Well, this is odd. SyFy is running an all day marathon of the classic TV series The Invaders. This was the original aliens walk among us plotting to take over the world show, the forerunner for aspects of everything from The X-Files (on which the lead had a part, I believe), to Third Wave. This was a classic '60s scifi series, with the look and great guest stars that distinguished shows of that era. So far I've seen Roddie McDowall and Suzanne Pleshette. Check it out. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Human Target 101: Christopher Chance in the comics
That it does, rave... but come on. We *can't* expect H'Wood to get it *right*, can we? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:06:43 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Human Target 101: Christopher Chance in the comics This sounds better than what I watched Sunday: The Human Target debuted in the back of Action Comics #419, way back in 1972. Written by Len Wein (Swamp Thing) and illustrated by Carmine Infantino and Dick Giordano, Target starred Christopher Chance, a square-jawed hero and bon vivant. Chance would use his amazing disguise abilities to impersonate someone whose life was in danger, and then use his astounding command of martial arts, firearms, explosives and so forth to confound and capture the would-be killer. In between gigs, he would hang out at Bruno's, a high-end restaurant owned by a chef and aide-de-camp of the same name, drinking expensive wine, eating gourmet meals and picking up extremely attractive women. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover?
rave, if memory serves, Fate's not keen on it either. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:17:50 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover? Am I the only one on this list who doesn't like Chuck? I thought it was the weaker of the two big box nerd shows, preferring Reaper. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: McG produces Chuck Rave. I thought it was a little weak, but has potential. I'm going to give it a chance -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:20 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Was that Danny Glover? Oh, I see, I am in the wrong thread (silly me, who would think of putting their Human Target comments in the Is anyone watching Human Target thread?). To quote Jay Sherman, the Critic: It Stinks! First of all, I felt like I was re-watching the premiere episode of SuperTrain, and nobody should have to do that twice. Secondly, it wastes the talents of two very good actors in Chi McBride and Jackie Earle Haley. In this regard, Human Target reminds me of Threshold, except Threshold was good. What a hokey, improbable set-up and execution. And, if Chi McBride is actually running this enterprise, why is he constantly getting punked by Mark Valley and Haley? Why is hero Christoper Chance (really?) negotiating their barter for hire instead of McBride (who, one would think, would be better qualified to handle such negotiations - or else, what is he there for?) I have a new rule of thumb: If it is produced by McG it has to suck! I did like Haley's feral little monkey-boy, though. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Yes, it was. Had to get out of my chair and look to be certain. And it wasn't bad at all. I really like the potential thrill-addict slant of Valley's Chance. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherwood@ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:00:14 -0500 Subject: [scifinoir2] Was that Danny Glover? LOL. OK, so I just watched human target and I liked it, I really liked it! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. __ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
Mr Worf, I can't say, because Mark has the assessment spot on. I've blocked it from memory as a matter of psychic self-preservation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:14:52 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Was it basically the same as the original or some slightly different twists to it? On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw it. Sucketh mightily. Roy Thinnes had a walk-on. The whole thing was completely forgettable on a par with the recent reimagining of The Prisoner. No reason to be. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:04 PM I just took a look at IMDB and there was a show that was an update of this series made into a movie with Scott Bakula. Did anyone see it? It came out in the mid-1990s. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: Oh yeah, i have that one too. My late father was a huge Western fan. I still get a little sad sometimes when watching a shoot-em-up. Back home in Fort Worth in the 70s and 80s, one of the local TV stations showed a block of Westerns all Saturday: Rawhide, Have Gun Will Travel, Bonanza, The Rifleman, etc. My dad would watch as many of them as he could when he was home. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:16:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY They have a western channel that replays all of the old western tv shows and movies. My father watches it continuously. Its called the Encore Western Channel on comscum digital. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: On what channel? I have one on Comcast, WSBR (or something like that), that shows older stuff. One morning I turned on the tube at 2 am, to see Daniel Boone! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:02:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
I was in heaven.. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:36 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Pilot Playhouse... (wiping tears of joy) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:31:44 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I remember that. As someone who worked from home, I watched all that stuff. They also showed some cancelled scifi shows from the 80's and early 90's. I also remember something called pilot playhouse, which was basically failed scifi pilots. It was great From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:42 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Ah... The Good Old Days. Again, are we forwarding these t the appropriate parties, in the faint hopes that change might be effected? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: jaxl...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:28:07 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY As I recall, a dozen or so years ago Sy-Fy nee' Sci-Fi filled most of its daily programming with not just The Invaders but Lost In Space, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of The Sea, Time Tunnel, Star Trek, Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica, Galactica 1980, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, War of the Worlds, V, the original Outer Limits and even some more off-trail stuff like Thriller. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 3:13 PM I know, Keith. I almost jumped for joy when I happened to surf across the channel and saw the synopsis for the ep. Good stuff, long past... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:51:21 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:53:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I love, love, LOVED this show when it was on (but then I was a sucker for the whole Quinn Martin ouevre: Twelve O'Clock High, The Fugitive). Watching it now is kind of like watching old Wild, Wild West episodes (fake-looking sets, bad wigs, extremely fake-looking fight scenes and strident, god-awful music!). The aliens did die cool, though. ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: Well, this is odd. SyFy is running an all day marathon of the classic TV series The Invaders. This was the original aliens walk among us plotting to take over the world show, the forerunner for aspects of everything from The X-Files (on which the lead had a part, I believe), to Third Wave. This was a classic '60s scifi series, with the look and great guest stars that distinguished shows of that era. So far I've seen Roddie McDowall and Suzanne Pleshette. Check it out. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ up now. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ now.
RE: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood?
Fox was going to do a US version of Ultraviolet as well. Never happened. Maybe this one with have the same outcome From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:09 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? HAS to be a joke. If the word on Fox isn't out by now regarding how they treat SF series... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:30:23 -0500 Subject: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? I hear that RTD is going to the States to do a US version of Torchwood with Fox. I'm wondering if there'll be official confirmation on this, or it'll turn out to be a sick joke... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ now.
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
That's weird... I don't get The Rifleman on Encore Western. It comes on something called World Harvest TV (probably a religion channel, as it's in that block group on my tier). Everything else, I get on Encore Western. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: jaxl...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:02:20 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Just about every evening, my TV watching ritual starts with Cheyenne, segues into The Rifleman then Have Gun-Will Travel and finally Gunsmoke. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:15 PM And back on those guest stars, what a group! So far I've seen the following: Suzanne Pleshette... Michael Rennie (The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Keeper from Lost in Space)...Roddy McDowall...James Whitmore (the actor who reminds me of Spencer Tracy)...the dude who played Spock's rival Stonn on the Star Trek OS ep Amok Time...a character actor I don't know, but who played a three-eyed alien at a diner in an ep of The Twilight Zone... Susan Oliver (Captain Pike's love interest from the first Star Trek pilot, The Cage)...an older British actor whose name espaces me, but who I remember as one of the original council of leaders on the original Battlestar Galactica-- great stuff. I miss the days when television was loaded with cop, cowboy, western, suspense, and scifi shows, and you saw the same actors showing up all over them in various roles. most of the folks I've seen appeared on at least Twilight Zone or Outer Limits back in the day, not to mention Gunsmoke, The Big Valley, Bonanza, Police Story, or The Six Million Dollar Man. I'm seeing a bit more of that guide of journeyman work for character actors on some of the TNT, USA, SyFy, and AE shows like Burn Notice, Eureka, etc. Lots of actors from the cableverse are appearing on each others' shows. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:47:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Actually, watching the show again, i find it to be fairly sophisticated and well done, as I said earlier. This was scifi done the way it was in the old days: where many of the showrunners/ writers/actors had decidedly non scifi backgrounds, and simply brought the standards of action and drama they'd learned from cop shows and Westerns to the scifi genre. It's why I love the early eps of the original Star Trek: they're very dramatic, full of good acting and deep themes. And like I said, I'm enjoying this forty-year old Invaders more than ninety percent of the SyFy Originals dreck we get each weekend! - Original Message - From: Mark Ellis jaxl...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY It's interesting that UFOlogy was in its infancy at that point, but the writers had obviously done their research, particularly with the Men In Black. MarkEllisInk. com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:51 PM Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:53:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I love, love, LOVED this show when it was on (but then I was a sucker for the whole Quinn Martin ouevre: Twelve O'Clock High, The Fugitive). Watching it now is kind of like watching old Wild, Wild West episodes (fake-looking sets, bad wigs, extremely fake-looking fight scenes and strident, god-awful music!). The aliens did die cool, though. ~rave! --- In
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Keith, the morph of Crowe's Hood does make sense, from the standpoint of the time, when most warriors were beefy types. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY
I was first able to see it because I was home sick from my job. After that, I made it a point to take a couple of personal holidays, so as to see it (after recording a batch, all sadly lost to fire). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:57:07 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I was in heaven…. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:36 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Pilot Playhouse... (wiping tears of joy) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:31:44 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I remember that. As someone who worked from home, I watched all that stuff. They also showed some cancelled scifi shows from the 80’s and early 90’s. I also remember something called pilot playhouse, which was basically failed scifi pilots. It was great From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:42 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Ah... The Good Old Days. Again, are we forwarding these t the appropriate parties, in the faint hopes that change might be effected? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: jaxl...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:28:07 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY As I recall, a dozen or so years ago Sy-Fy nee' Sci-Fi filled most of its daily programming with not just The Invaders but Lost In Space, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of The Sea, Time Tunnel, Star Trek, Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica, Galactica 1980, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, War of the Worlds, V, the original Outer Limits and even some more off-trail stuff like Thriller. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 3:13 PM I know, Keith. I almost jumped for joy when I happened to surf across the channel and saw the synopsis for the ep. Good stuff, long past... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:51:21 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY Agreed, I watched it religiously when I was a kid. I dig the vibrant colors of the sets, and man, i've lost count of all the familiar guest stars! Still, it had a good core of plot and acting, so it's aged well. This goes back to my earlier questions: why doesn't SyFy show more stuff like this? I had no clue they even owned rights to this show. i'm always looking for Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc., and instead I get SyFy Originals crap and Ghost Hunters. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:53:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Invaders on SyFY I love, love, LOVED this show when it was on (but then I was a sucker for the whole Quinn Martin ouevre: Twelve O'Clock High, The Fugitive). Watching it now is kind of like watching old Wild, Wild West episodes (fake-looking sets, bad wigs, extremely fake-looking fight scenes and strident, god-awful music!). The aliens did die cool, though. ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: Well, this is odd. SyFy is running an all day marathon of the classic TV series The Invaders. This was the original aliens walk among us plotting to take over the world show, the forerunner for aspects of everything
RE: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood?
Let us hope, Tracey... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:58:44 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? Fox was going to do a US version of Ultraviolet as well. Never happened. Maybe this one with have the same outcome From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:09 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? HAS to be a joke. If the word on Fox isn't out by now regarding how they treat SF series... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:30:23 -0500 Subject: [scifinoir2] US version of Torchwood? I hear that RTD is going to the States to do a US version of Torchwood with Fox. I'm wondering if there'll be official confirmation on this, or it'll turn out to be a sick joke... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today
I kind of enjoyed watching the Invaders. It was interesting to see a scifi show done with the same style as the Streets of San Francisco. :) OOooo! I just had an interesting thought. What if they did a scifi show in the style of Law and Order? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: I can't really take marathons of shows either, Tracey, not even Doctor Who. I did have to tune out of The Invaders a couple of times, for my own sanity. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:18:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I enjoyed the last marathon I saw a few years ago, but I enjoyed it more for the nostalgia. I’m not sure if I would watch it all the time like same the twilight zone. Same thing with time tunnel. I watch it every once in a while , (they had it in Mexico, but I do not think I would go for it on a regular basis *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Tracey, I still do. The isolation and loneliness that Vincent had to be living with as he went, never fully knowing who he could trust. One ep this morn starred Suzanne Pleshette as a woman whom Vincent fell for (though he never betrayed the emotion, beyond his eyes), who was a quisling for the aliens. When he figured out that she'd betrayed him, he was gutshot. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:03:32 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I used to love that show. *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 6:53 AM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Just fell across it. It's the original, with Roy Thinnes. IMO, worth a bit of time for the catch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes?
There have already been threats to make a clone army by the Italians and the Raelians, but we could end up in a situation like on Star Trek with Eugenic wars. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: The slippery slope is my problem too, Tracey. I could see the Chinese engineering more boy births and fewer girl births, and someone might want to go the way of the Sauron supermen from The Mote In God's Eye (think the Augments from Enterprise, only meaner and less schemey). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:22:42 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? See, I have some genetic , incurable crap too. I think I would want that out to. However, I believe it is likely a slippery slope *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 12:23 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? In a word, no, not even if it meant ridding them of the genetic combo that gave me what I've got. Though an improvement on my genes would be an incalculable gain for Mankind... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:17:11 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? Very soon the option of gene manipulation may come available. There are already methods that lean in that direction. Our near future may turn into a world that is similar to the movie Gattica. If the option became available do you think that if this option were available would you take that step to give your child the best advantages that he or she can have? Another question. Do you think that this kind of gene manipulation weaken the gene pool? -- -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
I love that movie! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:14:54 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Aubrey, I don't have that one on hand... but I do have Time Bandits. John Cleese as Hood. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:40:02 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I don't like Crowe, I definitely don't like Crowe in this role, and were it anyone else, I would potentially have an open mind to a buffer darker and more violent guy, but that's not how I see Robin and I doubt I will associate this new thing with what I feel about Robin and His Merry Men. I think I'll go watch Cary Elwes in Men in Tights now. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:21:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Do you not like Crowe, Crowe in this role, or a *buff* Crowe as Robin? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
[scifinoir2] Re: Action chicks that should (well...I'm not really into that)
More Action Chicks That Should Spank Me --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@... wrote: My list starts and ends with pam Grier. The rest are just pretenders. Spank me! ~rave!
[scifinoir2] M$ brings the Kodu platform to the PC
Now your kids can make their own video games. Here's a demo: http://fuse.microsoft.com/kodu/ Microsoft is bringing its Kodu development tool from the Xbox to the PC. (Credit: Microsoft) Microsoft researcher Matt MacLaurin came up for the idea for Koduhttp://download.cnet.com/Kodu/3000-18529_4-75036273.htmlin his kitchen in the fall of 2006, noticing the way his three-year-old daughter watched her mom browse away on Facebook. MacLaurin saw how different computing is now than when he was a kid. While his Commodore Pet was like a lump of clay that he could mold by writing software in Basic, his daughter's generation is using computers whose functions are already set in stone. So he set about creating a new developer language that would appeal to the current generation of kids. He settled on one that would work with just a game controller, using basic rules to do things like move an apple across the screen. A few months later, the idea was working code. MacLaurin had created Boku, an all new programming language that could be run on an Xboxhttp://www.cnet.com/xbox-360/using only the console's controller to craft basic logic. MacLaurin showed it at the 2007 TechFest internal science fair and later that year at an emerging technology conferencehttp://news.cnet.com/ETech-provides-peek-inside-Microsoft-labs/2100-1008_3-6171838.html. That's just in our DNA, MacLaurin said. We don't really trust something until it is on our screen. Kodu, the final name for Boku, got its big-time debut in 2009, when Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer showed the program, as part of his keynotehttp://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10131585-100.htmlat the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Now, Microsoft is bringing Kodu to the PC http://fuse.microsoft.com/kodu/. MacLaurin said the company had to do a fair amount of work to make Kodu work with a mouse as opposed to the controller. Most of that work is done, he said, but the company is releasing the PC version of Kodu as a technology preview to get more feedback before declaring the release final. Already in its current form, Kodu has found its way into 200 schools and there have been more than 200,000 downloads of the free software. MacLaurin said moving the tool to the PC and mouse will allow schools to use it without needing any special hardware. The software has also become popular in his own home, where he and his daughter work on Kodu tasks together. We use it together, he said, noting that at 5, his daughter is still younger than the 9-year-old age at which kids really start gravitating to Kodu. What he likes, though, is the logic skills it teaches her and the kinds of questions it creates in her mind. It's an opportunity to have conversations you don't really have in other settings, MacLaurin said. MacLaurin, who worked at Apple for five years, left after working on the Newton to form his own company and joined Microsoft in 2003. After spending most of his tenure in Microsoft's research labs, he recently moved to become part of Lili Cheng's Fuse Labs projecthttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10370729-56.html. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
I hear you. Even his speech at the end--something to the effect of, If a Moor can fight for Robin and justice, why can't you? was laughable and groan-inducing to me. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:31:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Keith, as much as I love Morgan Freeman as an actor, I deny the existence of that version of the movie. I was given it as a Christmas gift the holiday after the movie came out, and I donated my copy to the library. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:15:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Yeah, the Errol Flynn version is full of men laughing merrily, but that's the main vision of Robin throughout the ages. I liked the Patrick Bergan/Uma Thurman version as it was less...colorful. But Costner's? Dude that was dreck! His accent kept fading in and out, for some reason Freeman's character shoehorned in irritated me (and i typically love it when people add people of color to a story like that), and it was just weak. But as you say, some people might like it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:15:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood One man's junk is another man's treasure. I love Kevin Costner's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Morgan Freeman as Azeem, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Maid Marian, Christian Slater as Will Scarlet and Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Frankly, I am not a fan of the Robin Hood genre, in general, as most of them have been a little too merry for my my tastes. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
I don't know about that: Orlando Bloom fought in the Crusades in Kingdom of Heaven, and he's slim and pretty as can be for a man! :) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:49:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Keith, the morph of Crowe's Hood does make sense, from the standpoint of the time, when most warriors were beefy types. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.
[scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle
Even Adult Swim is on Conan's side Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Posted by: Patricia O'Connell on January 19 It looks like Conan O’Brien isn’t getting a golden parachute, but a golden muzzlehttp://tv.gawker.com/5451462/as-letterman-hits-back-obrien-calls-nbc-executives-incompetent-morons-and-leno-skirts-blame-conans-show-was-not-doing-well?skyline=trues=iautoplay=true. Is it worth it? The Tonight Show host (for now) has gotten a lot of mileage—and improved ratings http://cdinsight.com/news.php?readmore=3872—out of poking fun at NBC, et al, over the mess about moving the show’s time slot. And I admit watching Conan skewer his employers and colleague/competitor Jay Leno has been part of the great fun in watching Conan of late. But what will happen when he can’t do that anymore? It looks like NBC will pay Conan O’Brien $40 million http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575011482898148788.htmlto walk away from The Tonight Show because of Conan’s refusal to move the time of the show to 12:05 am. One of the apparent stipulations of the deal with NBC is that Conan refrain from bad-mouthing the network (and I assume “the network” also means Jay Leno and Jeff Zucker, two favorite O’Brien targets of late). I know I haven’t been alone in being fascinated by this corporate drama/train wreck. And I think part of the reason we’ve enjoyed it so much is there’s been a certain vicarious thrill in watching Conan trash his employer so publicly (and with such biting but still funny humor). Who hasn’t wanted, on some occasion, to do so? I’ve been pretty lucky in my career. For the most part, I’ve worked for people and companies that were good to me and I respected, and I’ve had lots of great colleagues (and when I didn’t, that was pre-Twitter). But everyone has wanted to stick it to their boss/company at some point, and rail about egregious unfairness, stupid decisions, how badly we’ve been treated, and undeserving colleagues. And for a while there, Conan was venting for all of us. It was fun while it lasted. … What if Conan were to get $20 million from, say, Fox, and not have to take NBC’s deal along with its muzzle? (Yes, I know, most severance packages contain some proviso that you not trash the company giving you your walking papers. But most of us don’t get humiliated by our employers publicly, either.) Trashing NBC would get old after a while, and would make Conan seem bitter. But it would be fun to know that he just might be able to throw a zinger every so often, when the situation warrants. So, what's the takeway for people who aren't managing networks or negotiating $40 million severance packages? Treat employees with dignity and fairness. Not an original insight, but still a useful one. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack
Google probing possible inside help on attack Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:15am EST Related News - China says Google no exception to the lawhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60I0QS20100119 8:44am EST - Little future for Google in China without searchhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE60D06820100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - China defends censorship after Google threathttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60C1TR20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - Google could find new road in Chinahttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60D0GC20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - Factbox: Foreign firms that withdrew from Chinahttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60D0SD20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 [image: A cleaner looks out from the lobby of Google China's headquarters in Beijing, January 15, 2010. REUTERS/Alfred Jin] SAN FRANCISCO/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Google is investigating whether one or more employees may have helped facilitate a cyber-attack from China that the U.S. search giant said it was a victim of in mid-December, two sources told Reuters on Monday. Technology http://www.reuters.com/news/technology | Mediahttp://www.reuters.com/news/media Google, the world's most popular search engine, said last week it may pull out of the world's biggest Internet market by users after reporting it had been hit by a sophisticated cyber-attack on its network that resulted in theft of its intellectual property. The sources, who are familiar with the situation, told Reuters that the attack, which targeted people who have access to specific parts of Google networks, may have been facilitated by people working in Google China's office. We're not commenting on rumor and speculation. This is an ongoing investigation, and we simply cannot comment on the details, a Google spokeswoman said. The investigation that one or more Google employees may have been involved in the Google breach would represent one facet of a broader attack that Google said targeted at least 20 other companies. Adobe Systems Inc, Juniper Network Inc and Rackspace Hosting Inc have all acknowledged being targets and a person familiar with the situation said Yahoo Inc was also a target. George Kurtz, the Chief Technology Officer of security software maker McAfee Inc, wrote in the McAfee corporate blog on Sunday that the targeted and coordinated nature of the attacks on various companies made them the most sophisticated cyberattack the company had seen in years Security analysts told Reuters the malicious software (malware) used in the Google attack was a modification of a Trojan called Hydraq. A Trojan is malware that, once inside a computer, allows someone unauthorized access. The sophistication in the attack was in knowing whom to attack, not the malware itself, the analysts said. Chinese media, citing unnamed sources, reported that some Google China employees were denied access to internal networks after January 13, while some staff were put on leave and others transferred to different offices in Google's Asia Pacific operations. Google said it would not comment on its business operations. TALKS SOON Google, which has denied rumors that it has already decided to shut down its China offices, said on Monday it contacted the Chinese government last week after the announcement. We are going to have talks with them in the coming few days, Google said. Google is also still in the process of scanning its internal networks since the cyber-attack in mid-December. China has tried to play down Google's threat to leave, saying there are many ways to resolve the issue, but insisting all foreign companies, Google included, must abide by Chinese laws. [ID:nTOE60E00I] Washington said it was issuing a diplomatic note to China formally requesting an explanation for the attacks. The Google issue risks becoming another irritant in China's relationship with the United States. Ties are already strained by arguments over the yuan currency's exchange rate, which U.S. critics say is unfairly low, trade protectionism and U.S. arms sales to Taiwan. Washington has long been worried about Beijing's cyber-spying program. A congressional advisory panel said in November the Chinese government appeared increasingly to be penetrating U.S. computers to gather useful data for its military. (Reporting by the Shanghai newsroom; Additional Reporting by Alexei Oreskovic in San Francisco; Editing by Sanjeev Miglanihttp://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=usn=sanjeev.miglani; ) -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack
(picking jaw up off floor...) That surprises me. With all of the crazy pay and benefits I'v eheard that Google employees receive, it would take a lot to turn them against the company. Maybe China had a few agents planted. (Now there's an H'Wood film waiting to be made.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:04:15 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack Google probing possible inside help on attack Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:15am EST Related News China says Google no exception to the law8:44am ESTLittle future for Google in China without search Thu, Jan 14 2010China defends censorship after Google threatThu, Jan 14 2010Google could find new road in China Thu, Jan 14 2010Factbox: Foreign firms that withdrew from ChinaThu, Jan 14 2010 SAN FRANCISCO/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Google is investigating whether one or more employees may have helped facilitate a cyber-attack from China that the U.S. search giant said it was a victim of in mid-December, two sources told Reuters on Monday. Technology | Media Google, the world's most popular search engine, said last week it may pull out of the world's biggest Internet market by users after reporting it had been hit by a sophisticated cyber-attack on its network that resulted in theft of its intellectual property. The sources, who are familiar with the situation, told Reuters that the attack, which targeted people who have access to specific parts of Google networks, may have been facilitated by people working in Google China's office. We're not commenting on rumor and speculation. This is an ongoing investigation, and we simply cannot comment on the details, a Google spokeswoman said. The investigation that one or more Google employees may have been involved in the Google breach would represent one facet of a broader attack that Google said targeted at least 20 other companies. Adobe Systems Inc, Juniper Network Inc and Rackspace Hosting Inc have all acknowledged being targets and a person familiar with the situation said Yahoo Inc was also a target. George Kurtz, the Chief Technology Officer of security software maker McAfee Inc, wrote in the McAfee corporate blog on Sunday that the targeted and coordinated nature of the attacks on various companies made them the most sophisticated cyberattack the company had seen in years Security analysts told Reuters the malicious software (malware) used in the Google attack was a modification of a Trojan called Hydraq. A Trojan is malware that, once inside a computer, allows someone unauthorized access. The sophistication in the attack was in knowing whom to attack, not the malware itself, the analysts said. Chinese media, citing unnamed sources, reported that some Google China employees were denied access to internal networks after January 13, while some staff were put on leave and others transferred to different offices in Google's Asia Pacific operations. Google said it would not comment on its business operations. TALKS SOON Google, which has denied rumors that it has already decided to shut down its China offices, said on Monday it contacted the Chinese government last week after the announcement. We are going to have talks with them in the coming few days, Google said. Google is also still in the process of scanning its internal networks since the cyber-attack in mid-December. China has tried to play down Google's threat to leave, saying there are many ways to resolve the issue, but insisting all foreign companies, Google included, must abide by Chinese laws. [ID:nTOE60E00I] Washington said it was issuing a diplomatic note to China formally requesting an explanation for the attacks. The Google issue risks becoming another irritant in China's relationship with the United States. Ties are already strained by arguments over the yuan currency's exchange rate, which U.S. critics say is unfairly low, trade protectionism and U.S. arms sales to Taiwan. Washington has long been worried about Beijing's cyber-spying program. A congressional advisory panel said in November the Chinese government appeared increasingly to be penetrating U.S. computers to gather useful data for its military. (Reporting by the Shanghai newsroom; Additional Reporting by Alexei Oreskovic in San Francisco; Editing by Sanjeev Miglani) -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle
More proof as to how stuppid NBC Uni is... Since this entire debacle began, Conan's material has gotten better. He posted The Tonight Show for sale on Craigslist... http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPNkwk1ZsA And, last night, he put HIMSELF up on either that or evilBay, along with a list of conditions that had me in the floor. Unfortnately, that one hasn't been posted yet. NBCUni's loss, Fox's gain (if the whisper-stream is true). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:01:06 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Even Adult Swim is on Conan's side Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Posted by: Patricia O'Connell on January 19 It looks like Conan O’Brien isn’t getting a golden parachute, but a golden muzzle. Is it worth it? The Tonight Show host (for now) has gotten a lot of mileage—and improved ratings—out of poking fun at NBC, et al, over the mess about moving the show’s time slot. And I admit watching Conan skewer his employers and colleague/competitor Jay Leno has been part of the great fun in watching Conan of late. But what will happen when he can’t do that anymore? It looks like NBC will pay Conan O’Brien $40 million to walk away from The Tonight Show because of Conan’s refusal to move the time of the show to 12:05 am. One of the apparent stipulations of the deal with NBC is that Conan refrain from bad-mouthing the network (and I assume “the network” also means Jay Leno and Jeff Zucker, two favorite O’Brien targets of late). I know I haven’t been alone in being fascinated by this corporate drama/train wreck. And I think part of the reason we’ve enjoyed it so much is there’s been a certain vicarious thrill in watching Conan trash his employer so publicly (and with such biting but still funny humor). Who hasn’t wanted, on some occasion, to do so? I’ve been pretty lucky in my career. For the most part, I’ve worked for people and companies that were good to me and I respected, and I’ve had lots of great colleagues (and when I didn’t, that was pre-Twitter). But everyone has wanted to stick it to their boss/company at some point, and rail about egregious unfairness, stupid decisions, how badly we’ve been treated, and undeserving colleagues. And for a while there, Conan was venting for all of us. It was fun while it lasted. … What if Conan were to get $20 million from, say, Fox, and not have to take NBC’s deal along with its muzzle? (Yes, I know, most severance packages contain some proviso that you not trash the company giving you your walking papers. But most of us don’t get humiliated by our employers publicly, either.) Trashing NBC would get old after a while, and would make Conan seem bitter. But it would be fun to know that he just might be able to throw a zinger every so often, when the situation warrants. So, what's the takeway for people who aren't managing networks or negotiating $40 million severance packages? Treat employees with dignity and fairness. Not an original insight, but still a useful one. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] M$ brings the Kodu platform to the PC
Thank you, Mr Worf, for this. Between my fifteen-year-old niece and my almost-ten-year-old nephew, I'll be filthy rich before I hit fifty, once I buy this for them. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:48:42 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] M$ brings the Kodu platform to the PC Now your kids can make their own video games. Here's a demo: http://fuse.microsoft.com/kodu/ Microsoft is bringing its Kodu development tool from the Xbox to the PC. (Credit: Microsoft) Microsoft researcher Matt MacLaurin came up for the idea for Kodu in his kitchen in the fall of 2006, noticing the way his three-year-old daughter watched her mom browse away on Facebook. MacLaurin saw how different computing is now than when he was a kid. While his Commodore Pet was like a lump of clay that he could mold by writing software in Basic, his daughter's generation is using computers whose functions are already set in stone. So he set about creating a new developer language that would appeal to the current generation of kids. He settled on one that would work with just a game controller, using basic rules to do things like move an apple across the screen. A few months later, the idea was working code. MacLaurin had created Boku, an all new programming language that could be run on an Xbox using only the console's controller to craft basic logic. MacLaurin showed it at the 2007 TechFest internal science fair and later that year at an emerging technology conference. That's just in our DNA, MacLaurin said. We don't really trust something until it is on our screen. Kodu, the final name for Boku, got its big-time debut in 2009, when Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer showed the program, as part of his keynote at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Now, Microsoft is bringing Kodu to the PC. MacLaurin said the company had to do a fair amount of work to make Kodu work with a mouse as opposed to the controller. Most of that work is done, he said, but the company is releasing the PC version of Kodu as a technology preview to get more feedback before declaring the release final. Already in its current form, Kodu has found its way into 200 schools and there have been more than 200,000 downloads of the free software. MacLaurin said moving the tool to the PC and mouse will allow schools to use it without needing any special hardware. The software has also become popular in his own home, where he and his daughter work on Kodu tasks together. We use it together, he said, noting that at 5, his daughter is still younger than the 9-year-old age at which kids really start gravitating to Kodu. What he likes, though, is the logic skills it teaches her and the kinds of questions it creates in her mind. It's an opportunity to have conversations you don't really have in other settings, MacLaurin said. MacLaurin, who worked at Apple for five years, left after working on the Newton to form his own company and joined Microsoft in 2003. After spending most of his tenure in Microsoft's research labs, he recently moved to become part of Lili Cheng's Fuse Labs project. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Brand New Kick-Ass Poster
Yes, that was me screaming like a fifteen-year-old girl at a Leif Ericson concert back in the day... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:37:08 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Brand New Kick-Ass Poster http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=16463utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+worstpreviews%2Fheadlines-30+%28WorstPreviews.com+-+Headlines+%2830+most+recent%29%29 Brand New Kick-Ass Poster A brand new poster for the upcoming big screen adaptation of the Kick-Ass comic book has appeared online, featuring all the main characters. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] M$ brings the Kodu platform to the PC
M$ will probably make it so you have to pay them every month to keep some level of access to the software. They already have something called XNA that is used by game programmers. I'm not sure how much money people can make off of it though. You may want to push them into making apps for the Google phone. :) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Thank you, Mr Worf, for this. Between my fifteen-year-old niece and my almost-ten-year-old nephew, I'll be filthy rich before I hit fifty, once I buy this for them. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:48:42 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] M$ brings the Kodu platform to the PC Now your kids can make their own video games. Here's a demo: http://fuse.microsoft.com/kodu/ Microsoft is bringing its Kodu development tool from the Xbox to the PC. (Credit: Microsoft) Microsoft researcher Matt MacLaurin came up for the idea for Koduhttp://download.cnet.com/Kodu/3000-18529_4-75036273.htmlin his kitchen in the fall of 2006, noticing the way his three-year-old daughter watched her mom browse away on Facebook. MacLaurin saw how different computing is now than when he was a kid. While his Commodore Pet was like a lump of clay that he could mold by writing software in Basic, his daughter's generation is using computers whose functions are already set in stone. So he set about creating a new developer language that would appeal to the current generation of kids. He settled on one that would work with just a game controller, using basic rules to do things like move an apple across the screen. A few months later, the idea was working code. MacLaurin had created Boku, an all new programming language that could be run on an Xboxhttp://www.cnet.com/xbox-360/using only the console's controller to craft basic logic. MacLaurin showed it at the 2007 TechFest internal science fair and later that year at an emerging technology conferencehttp://news.cnet.com/ETech-provides-peek-inside-Microsoft-labs/2100-1008_3-6171838.html. That's just in our DNA, MacLaurin said. We don't really trust something until it is on our screen. Kodu, the final name for Boku, got its big-time debut in 2009, when Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer showed the program, as part of his keynotehttp://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10131585-100.htmlat the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Now, Microsoft is bringing Kodu to the PChttp://fuse.microsoft.com/kodu/. MacLaurin said the company had to do a fair amount of work to make Kodu work with a mouse as opposed to the controller. Most of that work is done, he said, but the company is releasing the PC version of Kodu as a technology preview to get more feedback before declaring the release final. Already in its current form, Kodu has found its way into 200 schools and there have been more than 200,000 downloads of the free software. MacLaurin said moving the tool to the PC and mouse will allow schools to use it without needing any special hardware. The software has also become popular in his own home, where he and his daughter work on Kodu tasks together. We use it together, he said, noting that at 5, his daughter is still younger than the 9-year-old age at which kids really start gravitating to Kodu. What he likes, though, is the logic skills it teaches her and the kinds of questions it creates in her mind. It's an opportunity to have conversations you don't really have in other settings, MacLaurin said. MacLaurin, who worked at Apple for five years, left after working on the Newton to form his own company and joined Microsoft in 2003. After spending most of his tenure in Microsoft's research labs, he recently moved to become part of Lili Cheng's Fuse Labs projecthttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10370729-56.html. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes?
Raelian eugenics... a moment, whilst I chortle. Italian eugenics programs, however... I know a few Italians. You don't wanna f*ck with them. (And I'm excluding those with La Costra Nosa ties, mind you.) Same with almost everyone in Africa... wouldn't the Aryan Brotherhood crap its pants over that? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:21:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? There have already been threats to make a clone army by the Italians and the Raelians, but we could end up in a situation like on Star Trek with Eugenic wars. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The slippery slope is my problem too, Tracey. I could see the Chinese engineering more boy births and fewer girl births, and someone might want to go the way of the Sauron supermen from The Mote In God's Eye (think the Augments from Enterprise, only meaner and less schemey). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:22:42 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? See, I have some genetic , incurable crap too. I think I would want that out to. However, I believe it is likely a slippery slope From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:23 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? In a word, no, not even if it meant ridding them of the genetic combo that gave me what I've got. Though an improvement on my genes would be an incalculable gain for Mankind... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:17:11 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? Very soon the option of gene manipulation may come available. There are already methods that lean in that direction. Our near future may turn into a world that is similar to the movie Gattica. If the option became available do you think that if this option were available would you take that step to give your child the best advantages that he or she can have? Another question. Do you think that this kind of gene manipulation weaken the gene pool? -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today
For the second time today, I say, Yowza! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:17:03 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I kind of enjoyed watching the Invaders. It was interesting to see a scifi show done with the same style as the Streets of San Francisco. :) OOooo! I just had an interesting thought. What if they did a scifi show in the style of Law and Order? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I can't really take marathons of shows either, Tracey, not even Doctor Who. I did have to tune out of The Invaders a couple of times, for my own sanity. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:18:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I enjoyed the last marathon I saw a few years ago, but I enjoyed it more for the nostalgia. I’m not sure if I would watch it all the time like same the twilight zone. Same thing with time tunnel. I watch it every once in a while , (they had it in Mexico, but I do not think I would go for it on a regular basis From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Tracey, I still do. The isolation and loneliness that Vincent had to be living with as he went, never fully knowing who he could trust. One ep this morn starred Suzanne Pleshette as a woman whom Vincent fell for (though he never betrayed the emotion, beyond his eyes), who was a quisling for the aliens. When he figured out that she'd betrayed him, he was gutshot. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:03:32 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I used to love that show. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:53 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Just fell across it. It's the original, with Roy Thinnes. IMO, worth a bit of time for the catch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle
They don't want to loose that 60 yr old couple from Nebraska demographic. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: More proof as to how stuppid NBC Uni is... Since this entire debacle began, Conan's material has gotten better. He posted The Tonight Show for sale on Craigslist... http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPNkwk1ZsAhttp://http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPNkwk1ZsA And, last night, he put HIMSELF up on either that or evilBay, along with a list of conditions that had me in the floor. Unfortnately, that one hasn't been posted yet. NBCUni's loss, Fox's gain (if the whisper-stream is true). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:01:06 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Even Adult Swim is on Conan's side Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Posted by: Patricia O'Connell on January 19 It looks like Conan O’Brien isn’t getting a golden parachute, but a golden muzzlehttp://tv.gawker.com/5451462/as-letterman-hits-back-obrien-calls-nbc-executives-incompetent-morons-and-leno-skirts-blame-conans-show-was-not-doing-well?skyline=trues=iautoplay=true. Is it worth it? The Tonight Show host (for now) has gotten a lot of mileage—and improved ratings http://cdinsight.com/news.php?readmore=3872—out of poking fun at NBC, et al, over the mess about moving the show’s time slot. And I admit watching Conan skewer his employers and colleague/competitor Jay Leno has been part of the great fun in watching Conan of late. But what will happen when he can’t do that anymore? It looks like NBC will pay Conan O’Brien $40 million http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575011482898148788.htmlto walk away from The Tonight Show because of Conan’s refusal to move the time of the show to 12:05 am. One of the apparent stipulations of the deal with NBC is that Conan refrain from bad-mouthing the network (and I assume “the network” also means Jay Leno and Jeff Zucker, two favorite O’Brien targets of late). I know I haven’t been alone in being fascinated by this corporate drama/train wreck. And I think part of the reason we’ve enjoyed it so much is there’s been a certain vicarious thrill in watching Conan trash his employer so publicly (and with such biting but still funny humor). Who hasn’t wanted, on some occasion, to do so? I’ve been pretty lucky in my career. For the most part, I’ve worked for people and companies that were good to me and I respected, and I’ve had lots of great colleagues (and when I didn’t, that was pre-Twitter). But everyone has wanted to stick it to their boss/company at some point, and rail about egregious unfairness, stupid decisions, how badly we’ve been treated, and undeserving colleagues. And for a while there, Conan was venting for all of us. It was fun while it lasted. … What if Conan were to get $20 million from, say, Fox, and not have to take NBC’s deal along with its muzzle? (Yes, I know, most severance packages contain some proviso that you not trash the company giving you your walking papers. But most of us don’t get humiliated by our employers publicly, either.) Trashing NBC would get old after a while, and would make Conan seem bitter. But it would be fun to know that he just might be able to throw a zinger every so often, when the situation warrants. So, what's the takeway for people who aren't managing networks or negotiating $40 million severance packages? Treat employees with dignity and fairness. Not an original insight, but still a useful one. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] M$ brings the Kodu platform to the PC
My niece would be the one for that. My nephew is chin-deep into games. My niece... let's just say that her mother takes her phone from her when she gets in from school. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:58:18 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] M$ brings the Kodu platform to the PC M$ will probably make it so you have to pay them every month to keep some level of access to the software. They already have something called XNA that is used by game programmers. I'm not sure how much money people can make off of it though. You may want to push them into making apps for the Google phone. :) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you, Mr Worf, for this. Between my fifteen-year-old niece and my almost-ten-year-old nephew, I'll be filthy rich before I hit fifty, once I buy this for them. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:48:42 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] M$ brings the Kodu platform to the PC Now your kids can make their own video games. Here's a demo: http://fuse.microsoft.com/kodu/ Microsoft is bringing its Kodu development tool from the Xbox to the PC. (Credit: Microsoft) Microsoft researcher Matt MacLaurin came up for the idea for Kodu in his kitchen in the fall of 2006, noticing the way his three-year-old daughter watched her mom browse away on Facebook. MacLaurin saw how different computing is now than when he was a kid. While his Commodore Pet was like a lump of clay that he could mold by writing software in Basic, his daughter's generation is using computers whose functions are already set in stone. So he set about creating a new developer language that would appeal to the current generation of kids. He settled on one that would work with just a game controller, using basic rules to do things like move an apple across the screen. A few months later, the idea was working code. MacLaurin had created Boku, an all new programming language that could be run on an Xbox using only the console's controller to craft basic logic. MacLaurin showed it at the 2007 TechFest internal science fair and later that year at an emerging technology conference. That's just in our DNA, MacLaurin said. We don't really trust something until it is on our screen. Kodu, the final name for Boku, got its big-time debut in 2009, when Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer showed the program, as part of his keynote at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Now, Microsoft is bringing Kodu to the PC. MacLaurin said the company had to do a fair amount of work to make Kodu work with a mouse as opposed to the controller. Most of that work is done, he said, but the company is releasing the PC version of Kodu as a technology preview to get more feedback before declaring the release final. Already in its current form, Kodu has found its way into 200 schools and there have been more than 200,000 downloads of the free software. MacLaurin said moving the tool to the PC and mouse will allow schools to use it without needing any special hardware. The software has also become popular in his own home, where he and his daughter work on Kodu tasks together. We use it together, he said, noting that at 5, his daughter is still younger than the 9-year-old age at which kids really start gravitating to Kodu. What he likes, though, is the logic skills it teaches her and the kinds of questions it creates in her mind. It's an opportunity to have conversations you don't really have in other settings, MacLaurin said. MacLaurin, who worked at Apple for five years, left after working on the Newton to form his own company and joined Microsoft in 2003. After spending most of his tenure in Microsoft's research labs, he recently moved to become part of Lili Cheng's Fuse Labs project. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live
Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today
There's a First Wave marathon on today. Which is a similar idea. It was a pretty good show. Not excellent, but still pretty good. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: For the second time today, I say, Yowza! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:17:03 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I kind of enjoyed watching the Invaders. It was interesting to see a scifi show done with the same style as the Streets of San Francisco. :) OOooo! I just had an interesting thought. What if they did a scifi show in the style of Law and Order? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I can't really take marathons of shows either, Tracey, not even Doctor Who. I did have to tune out of The Invaders a couple of times, for my own sanity. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:18:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I enjoyed the last marathon I saw a few years ago, but I enjoyed it more for the nostalgia. I’m not sure if I would watch it all the time like same the twilight zone. Same thing with time tunnel. I watch it every once in a while , (they had it in Mexico, but I do not think I would go for it on a regular basis *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Tracey, I still do. The isolation and loneliness that Vincent had to be living with as he went, never fully knowing who he could trust. One ep this morn starred Suzanne Pleshette as a woman whom Vincent fell for (though he never betrayed the emotion, beyond his eyes), who was a quisling for the aliens. When he figured out that she'd betrayed him, he was gutshot. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:03:32 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I used to love that show. *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 6:53 AM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Just fell across it. It's the original, with Roy Thinnes. IMO, worth a bit of time for the catch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle
They'll feel differently in about forty years, when Conan's demographic is sixty and living in Lower Manhattan. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:01:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle They don't want to loose that 60 yr old couple from Nebraska demographic. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: More proof as to how stuppid NBC Uni is... Since this entire debacle began, Conan's material has gotten better. He posted The Tonight Show for sale on Craigslist... http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPNkwk1ZsA And, last night, he put HIMSELF up on either that or evilBay, along with a list of conditions that had me in the floor. Unfortnately, that one hasn't been posted yet. NBCUni's loss, Fox's gain (if the whisper-stream is true). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:01:06 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Even Adult Swim is on Conan's side Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Posted by: Patricia O'Connell on January 19 It looks like Conan O’Brien isn’t getting a golden parachute, but a golden muzzle. Is it worth it? The Tonight Show host (for now) has gotten a lot of mileage—and improved ratings—out of poking fun at NBC, et al, over the mess about moving the show’s time slot. And I admit watching Conan skewer his employers and colleague/competitor Jay Leno has been part of the great fun in watching Conan of late. But what will happen when he can’t do that anymore? It looks like NBC will pay Conan O’Brien $40 million to walk away from The Tonight Show because of Conan’s refusal to move the time of the show to 12:05 am. One of the apparent stipulations of the deal with NBC is that Conan refrain from bad-mouthing the network (and I assume “the network” also means Jay Leno and Jeff Zucker, two favorite O’Brien targets of late). I know I haven’t been alone in being fascinated by this corporate drama/train wreck. And I think part of the reason we’ve enjoyed it so much is there’s been a certain vicarious thrill in watching Conan trash his employer so publicly (and with such biting but still funny humor). Who hasn’t wanted, on some occasion, to do so? I’ve been pretty lucky in my career. For the most part, I’ve worked for people and companies that were good to me and I respected, and I’ve had lots of great colleagues (and when I didn’t, that was pre-Twitter). But everyone has wanted to stick it to their boss/company at some point, and rail about egregious unfairness, stupid decisions, how badly we’ve been treated, and undeserving colleagues. And for a while there, Conan was venting for all of us. It was fun while it lasted. … What if Conan were to get $20 million from, say, Fox, and not have to take NBC’s deal along with its muzzle? (Yes, I know, most severance packages contain some proviso that you not trash the company giving you your walking papers. But most of us don’t get humiliated by our employers publicly, either.) Trashing NBC would get old after a while, and would make Conan seem bitter. But it would be fun to know that he just might be able to throw a zinger every so often, when the situation warrants. So, what's the takeway for people who aren't managing networks or negotiating $40 million severance packages? Treat employees with dignity and fairness. Not an original insight, but still a useful one. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today
I agree, Mr Worf. Did have its moments of excellence, especially in how they crafted some of the sub-plots. The alien brother who was hunting Cade, eventually coming to doubt his own side's standing was good work. A bit predictable at times, but still kept me tuned in. Wish I'd been able to watch it today (busy between work and trying to hunt down a printer cartridge). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:03:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today There's a First Wave marathon on today. Which is a similar idea. It was a pretty good show. Not excellent, but still pretty good. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: For the second time today, I say, Yowza! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:17:03 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I kind of enjoyed watching the Invaders. It was interesting to see a scifi show done with the same style as the Streets of San Francisco. :) OOooo! I just had an interesting thought. What if they did a scifi show in the style of Law and Order? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I can't really take marathons of shows either, Tracey, not even Doctor Who. I did have to tune out of The Invaders a couple of times, for my own sanity. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:18:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I enjoyed the last marathon I saw a few years ago, but I enjoyed it more for the nostalgia. I’m not sure if I would watch it all the time like same the twilight zone. Same thing with time tunnel. I watch it every once in a while , (they had it in Mexico, but I do not think I would go for it on a regular basis From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Tracey, I still do. The isolation and loneliness that Vincent had to be living with as he went, never fully knowing who he could trust. One ep this morn starred Suzanne Pleshette as a woman whom Vincent fell for (though he never betrayed the emotion, beyond his eyes), who was a quisling for the aliens. When he figured out that she'd betrayed him, he was gutshot. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:03:32 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I used to love that show. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:53 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Just fell across it. It's the original, with Roy Thinnes. IMO, worth a bit of time for the catch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at:
Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes?
They have fantasies of giant axe wielding Teutonic warriors ala video game. Don't discount the Raelians. They don't have the restraints that ethical scientists do around the world so they could come up with some large developments. But then again it does sound a bit like a Bond film doesn't it? The claims of an Italian clone are being done by Facist Neo-Nazi Italians which are a little different than the generic goombahs in southern Italy. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Raelian eugenics... a moment, whilst I chortle. Italian eugenics programs, however... I know a few Italians. You don't wanna f*ck with them. (And I'm excluding those with La Costra Nosa ties, mind you.) Same with almost everyone in Africa... wouldn't the Aryan Brotherhood crap its pants over that? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:21:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? There have already been threats to make a clone army by the Italians and the Raelians, but we could end up in a situation like on Star Trek with Eugenic wars. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The slippery slope is my problem too, Tracey. I could see the Chinese engineering more boy births and fewer girl births, and someone might want to go the way of the Sauron supermen from The Mote In God's Eye (think the Augments from Enterprise, only meaner and less schemey). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:22:42 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? See, I have some genetic , incurable crap too. I think I would want that out to. However, I believe it is likely a slippery slope *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 12:23 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? In a word, no, not even if it meant ridding them of the genetic combo that gave me what I've got. Though an improvement on my genes would be an incalculable gain for Mankind... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:17:11 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? Very soon the option of gene manipulation may come available. There are already methods that lean in that direction. Our near future may turn into a world that is similar to the movie Gattica. If the option became available do you think that if this option were available would you take that step to give your child the best advantages that he or she can have? Another question. Do you think that this kind of gene manipulation weaken the gene pool? -- -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes?
Mr Worf, the Raelians you've met and the ones I've met are apparently of a completely different equivalency class. The ones I encountered my last time in L.A. during the first OJ trial made lemmings look lethal. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:08:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? They have fantasies of giant axe wielding Teutonic warriors ala video game. Don't discount the Raelians. They don't have the restraints that ethical scientists do around the world so they could come up with some large developments. But then again it does sound a bit like a Bond film doesn't it? The claims of an Italian clone are being done by Facist Neo-Nazi Italians which are a little different than the generic goombahs in southern Italy. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Raelian eugenics... a moment, whilst I chortle. Italian eugenics programs, however... I know a few Italians. You don't wanna f*ck with them. (And I'm excluding those with La Costra Nosa ties, mind you.) Same with almost everyone in Africa... wouldn't the Aryan Brotherhood crap its pants over that? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:21:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? There have already been threats to make a clone army by the Italians and the Raelians, but we could end up in a situation like on Star Trek with Eugenic wars. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The slippery slope is my problem too, Tracey. I could see the Chinese engineering more boy births and fewer girl births, and someone might want to go the way of the Sauron supermen from The Mote In God's Eye (think the Augments from Enterprise, only meaner and less schemey). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:22:42 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? See, I have some genetic , incurable crap too. I think I would want that out to. However, I believe it is likely a slippery slope From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:23 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? In a word, no, not even if it meant ridding them of the genetic combo that gave me what I've got. Though an improvement on my genes would be an incalculable gain for Mankind... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:17:11 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? Very soon the option of gene manipulation may come available. There are already methods that lean in that direction. Our near future may turn into a world that is similar to the movie Gattica. If the option became available do you think that if this option were available would you take that step to give your child the best advantages that he or she can have? Another question. Do you think that this kind of gene manipulation weaken the gene pool? -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at:
Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack
It may be that they were threatening their family members or something. Google does have a lot of nice benefits. I took a short tour there a couple of weeks ago. Their campus is ginormus! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: (picking jaw up off floor...) That surprises me. With all of the crazy pay and benefits I'v eheard that Google employees receive, it would take a lot to turn them against the company. Maybe China had a few agents planted. (Now there's an H'Wood film waiting to be made.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:04:15 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack Google probing possible inside help on attack Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:15am EST Related News - China says Google no exception to the lawhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60I0QS20100119 8:44am EST - Little future for Google in China without searchhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE60D06820100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - China defends censorship after Google threathttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60C1TR20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - Google could find new road in Chinahttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60D0GC20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - Factbox: Foreign firms that withdrew from Chinahttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60D0SD20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 [image: A cleaner looks out from the lobby of Google China's headquarters in Beijing, January 15, 2010. REUTERS/Alfred Jin] SAN FRANCISCO/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Google is investigating whether one or more employees may have helped facilitate a cyber-attack from China that the U.S. search giant said it was a victim of in mid-December, two sources told Reuters on Monday. Technology http://www.reuters.com/news/technology | Mediahttp://www.reuters.com/news/media Google, the world's most popular search engine, said last week it may pull out of the world's biggest Internet market by users after reporting it had been hit by a sophisticated cyber-attack on its network that resulted in theft of its intellectual property. The sources, who are familiar with the situation, told Reuters that the attack, which targeted people who have access to specific parts of Google networks, may have been facilitated by people working in Google China's office. We're not commenting on rumor and speculation. This is an ongoing investigation, and we simply cannot comment on the details, a Google spokeswoman said. The investigation that one or more Google employees may have been involved in the Google breach would represent one facet of a broader attack that Google said targeted at least 20 other companies. Adobe Systems Inc, Juniper Network Inc and Rackspace Hosting Inc have all acknowledged being targets and a person familiar with the situation said Yahoo Inc was also a target. George Kurtz, the Chief Technology Officer of security software maker McAfee Inc, wrote in the McAfee corporate blog on Sunday that the targeted and coordinated nature of the attacks on various companies made them the most sophisticated cyberattack the company had seen in years Security analysts told Reuters the malicious software (malware) used in the Google attack was a modification of a Trojan called Hydraq. A Trojan is malware that, once inside a computer, allows someone unauthorized access. The sophistication in the attack was in knowing whom to attack, not the malware itself, the analysts said. Chinese media, citing unnamed sources, reported that some Google China employees were denied access to internal networks after January 13, while some staff were put on leave and others transferred to different offices in Google's Asia Pacific operations. Google said it would not comment on its business operations. TALKS SOON Google, which has denied rumors that it has already decided to shut down its China offices, said on Monday it contacted the Chinese government last week after the announcement. We are going to have talks with them in the coming few days, Google said. Google is also still in the process of scanning its internal networks since the cyber-attack in mid-December. China has tried to play down Google's threat to leave, saying there are many ways to resolve the issue, but insisting all foreign companies, Google included, must abide by Chinese laws. [ID:nTOE60E00I] Washington said it was issuing a diplomatic note to China formally requesting an explanation for the attacks. The Google issue risks becoming another irritant in China's relationship with the United States. Ties are already strained by arguments over the yuan currency's exchange rate, which U.S. critics say is unfairly
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Don't know how I forgot that, having seen the flick a dozen times! And, thinking more, Richard the Lion-Hearted wasn't very big either, but one of the most skilled swordsmen of his era. Feel free to render my previous statement non-existent. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:54:14 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I don't know about that: Orlando Bloom fought in the Crusades in Kingdom of Heaven, and he's slim and pretty as can be for a man! :) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:49:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Keith, the morph of Crowe's Hood does make sense, from the standpoint of the time, when most warriors were beefy types. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Just pulled it out of storage. it's right here by my computer, waiting for me to be done with e-mail. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:29:19 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I love that movie! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:14:54 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Aubrey, I don't have that one on hand... but I do have Time Bandits. John Cleese as Hood. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:40:02 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I don't like Crowe, I definitely don't like Crowe in this role, and were it anyone else, I would potentially have an open mind to a buffer darker and more violent guy, but that's not how I see Robin and I doubt I will associate this new thing with what I feel about Robin and His Merry Men. I think I'll go watch Cary Elwes in Men in Tights now. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:21:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Do you not like Crowe, Crowe in this role, or a *buff* Crowe as Robin? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
My neck tensed up at the sight of those words... it may be a day or three before I can swallow again. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:51:29 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I hear you. Even his speech at the end--something to the effect of, If a Moor can fight for Robin and justice, why can't you? was laughable and groan-inducing to me. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:31:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Keith, as much as I love Morgan Freeman as an actor, I deny the existence of that version of the movie. I was given it as a Christmas gift the holiday after the movie came out, and I donated my copy to the library. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:15:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Yeah, the Errol Flynn version is full of men laughing merrily, but that's the main vision of Robin throughout the ages. I liked the Patrick Bergan/Uma Thurman version as it was less...colorful. But Costner's? Dude that was dreck! His accent kept fading in and out, for some reason Freeman's character shoehorned in irritated me (and i typically love it when people add people of color to a story like that), and it was just weak. But as you say, some people might like it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:15:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood One man's junk is another man's treasure. I love Kevin Costner's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Morgan Freeman as Azeem, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Maid Marian, Christian Slater as Will Scarlet and Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Frankly, I am not a fan of the Robin Hood genre, in general, as most of them have been a little too merry for my my tastes. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more on the soldier who's fought bitterly in the Crusades, who comes home, weary, to fight further injustice. Used to more lithe, agile, and lighthearted Robins, I was intrigued by this treatment. Crowe's bringing that furrowed brow, that worn, barely coiled anger so familar from Gladiator to this role. Obviously this hulking Prince of Thieves won't be swinging much from slender ropes in the forest of Sherwood! And obviously the Merry Men won't be standing around in garishly bright pastel colors, laughing joyfully and chowing down on stag legs. This thing is pretty intense. My fav Robin movie of recent times has been the smart version with Patrick Bergman and Uma Thurman, which was a nice companion to Errol Flynn's funfest. Forget Costner's junk. Maybe this one can add an interesting new twist to the legend? http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack
The threats are a strong possibility. A few more exchanges, and we'll have a good outline of a screenplay, Mr Worf. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:10:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack It may be that they were threatening their family members or something. Google does have a lot of nice benefits. I took a short tour there a couple of weeks ago. Their campus is ginormus! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: (picking jaw up off floor...) That surprises me. With all of the crazy pay and benefits I'v eheard that Google employees receive, it would take a lot to turn them against the company. Maybe China had a few agents planted. (Now there's an H'Wood film waiting to be made.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:04:15 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack Google probing possible inside help on attack Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:15am EST Related News China says Google no exception to the law8:44am ESTLittle future for Google in China without search Thu, Jan 14 2010China defends censorship after Google threatThu, Jan 14 2010Google could find new road in China Thu, Jan 14 2010Factbox: Foreign firms that withdrew from ChinaThu, Jan 14 2010 SAN FRANCISCO/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Google is investigating whether one or more employees may have helped facilitate a cyber-attack from China that the U.S. search giant said it was a victim of in mid-December, two sources told Reuters on Monday. Technology | Media Google, the world's most popular search engine, said last week it may pull out of the world's biggest Internet market by users after reporting it had been hit by a sophisticated cyber-attack on its network that resulted in theft of its intellectual property. The sources, who are familiar with the situation, told Reuters that the attack, which targeted people who have access to specific parts of Google networks, may have been facilitated by people working in Google China's office. We're not commenting on rumor and speculation. This is an ongoing investigation, and we simply cannot comment on the details, a Google spokeswoman said. The investigation that one or more Google employees may have been involved in the Google breach would represent one facet of a broader attack that Google said targeted at least 20 other companies. Adobe Systems Inc, Juniper Network Inc and Rackspace Hosting Inc have all acknowledged being targets and a person familiar with the situation said Yahoo Inc was also a target. George Kurtz, the Chief Technology Officer of security software maker McAfee Inc, wrote in the McAfee corporate blog on Sunday that the targeted and coordinated nature of the attacks on various companies made them the most sophisticated cyberattack the company had seen in years Security analysts told Reuters the malicious software (malware) used in the Google attack was a modification of a Trojan called Hydraq. A Trojan is malware that, once inside a computer, allows someone unauthorized access. The sophistication in the attack was in knowing whom to attack, not the malware itself, the analysts said. Chinese media, citing unnamed sources, reported that some Google China employees were denied access to internal networks after January 13, while some staff were put on leave and others transferred to different offices in Google's Asia Pacific operations. Google said it would not comment on its business operations. TALKS SOON Google, which has denied rumors that it has already decided to shut down its China offices, said on Monday it contacted the Chinese government last week after the announcement. We are going to have talks with them in the coming few days, Google said. Google is also still in the process of scanning its internal networks since the cyber-attack in mid-December. China has tried to play down Google's threat to leave, saying there are many ways to resolve the issue, but insisting all foreign companies, Google included, must abide by Chinese laws. [ID:nTOE60E00I] Washington said it was issuing a diplomatic note to China formally requesting an explanation
Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes?
The Teutonic warrior statement was about the aryans. The Raelians aren't a physical threat but they could potentially pose one in the future. Some of the alternative religions have very deep pockets. For example, the Mormons, Scientologists, and the Moonies all have organizations worth billions each. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, the Raelians you've met and the ones I've met are apparently of a completely different equivalency class. The ones I encountered my last time in L.A. during the first OJ trial made lemmings look lethal. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:08:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? They have fantasies of giant axe wielding Teutonic warriors ala video game. Don't discount the Raelians. They don't have the restraints that ethical scientists do around the world so they could come up with some large developments. But then again it does sound a bit like a Bond film doesn't it? The claims of an Italian clone are being done by Facist Neo-Nazi Italians which are a little different than the generic goombahs in southern Italy. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Raelian eugenics... a moment, whilst I chortle. Italian eugenics programs, however... I know a few Italians. You don't wanna f*ck with them. (And I'm excluding those with La Costra Nosa ties, mind you.) Same with almost everyone in Africa... wouldn't the Aryan Brotherhood crap its pants over that? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:21:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? There have already been threats to make a clone army by the Italians and the Raelians, but we could end up in a situation like on Star Trek with Eugenic wars. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The slippery slope is my problem too, Tracey. I could see the Chinese engineering more boy births and fewer girl births, and someone might want to go the way of the Sauron supermen from The Mote In God's Eye (think the Augments from Enterprise, only meaner and less schemey). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:22:42 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? See, I have some genetic , incurable crap too. I think I would want that out to. However, I believe it is likely a slippery slope *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 12:23 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? In a word, no, not even if it meant ridding them of the genetic combo that gave me what I've got. Though an improvement on my genes would be an incalculable gain for Mankind... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:17:11 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? Very soon the option of gene manipulation may come available. There are already methods that lean in that direction. Our near future may turn into a world that is similar to the movie Gattica. If the option became available do you think that if this option were available would you take that step to give your child the best advantages that he or she can have? Another question. Do you think that this kind of gene manipulation weaken the gene pool? -- -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at:
Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today
The only thing that bugged me about the show and a few others is the repeating mantra about Cade. Its like Terminator Salvation. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: I agree, Mr Worf. Did have its moments of excellence, especially in how they crafted some of the sub-plots. The alien brother who was hunting Cade, eventually coming to doubt his own side's standing was good work. A bit predictable at times, but still kept me tuned in. Wish I'd been able to watch it today (busy between work and trying to hunt down a printer cartridge). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:03:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today There's a First Wave marathon on today. Which is a similar idea. It was a pretty good show. Not excellent, but still pretty good. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: For the second time today, I say, Yowza! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:17:03 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I kind of enjoyed watching the Invaders. It was interesting to see a scifi show done with the same style as the Streets of San Francisco. :) OOooo! I just had an interesting thought. What if they did a scifi show in the style of Law and Order? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I can't really take marathons of shows either, Tracey, not even Doctor Who. I did have to tune out of The Invaders a couple of times, for my own sanity. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:18:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I enjoyed the last marathon I saw a few years ago, but I enjoyed it more for the nostalgia. I’m not sure if I would watch it all the time like same the twilight zone. Same thing with time tunnel. I watch it every once in a while , (they had it in Mexico, but I do not think I would go for it on a regular basis *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Tracey, I still do. The isolation and loneliness that Vincent had to be living with as he went, never fully knowing who he could trust. One ep this morn starred Suzanne Pleshette as a woman whom Vincent fell for (though he never betrayed the emotion, beyond his eyes), who was a quisling for the aliens. When he figured out that she'd betrayed him, he was gutshot. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:03:32 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I used to love that show. *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 6:53 AM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Just fell across it. It's the original, with Roy Thinnes. IMO, worth a bit of time for the catch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go.
Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack
Let us not forget the Nazi decedents living in Argentina and Brazil. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: The threats are a strong possibility. A few more exchanges, and we'll have a good outline of a screenplay, Mr Worf. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:10:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack It may be that they were threatening their family members or something. Google does have a lot of nice benefits. I took a short tour there a couple of weeks ago. Their campus is ginormus! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: (picking jaw up off floor...) That surprises me. With all of the crazy pay and benefits I'v eheard that Google employees receive, it would take a lot to turn them against the company. Maybe China had a few agents planted. (Now there's an H'Wood film waiting to be made.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:04:15 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack Google probing possible inside help on attack Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:15am EST Related News - China says Google no exception to the lawhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60I0QS20100119 8:44am EST - Little future for Google in China without searchhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE60D06820100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - China defends censorship after Google threathttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60C1TR20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - Google could find new road in Chinahttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60D0GC20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - Factbox: Foreign firms that withdrew from Chinahttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60D0SD20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 [image: A cleaner looks out from the lobby of Google China's headquarters in Beijing, January 15, 2010. REUTERS/Alfred Jin] SAN FRANCISCO/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Google is investigating whether one or more employees may have helped facilitate a cyber-attack from China that the U.S. search giant said it was a victim of in mid-December, two sources told Reuters on Monday. Technology http://www.reuters.com/news/technology | Mediahttp://www.reuters.com/news/media Google, the world's most popular search engine, said last week it may pull out of the world's biggest Internet market by users after reporting it had been hit by a sophisticated cyber-attack on its network that resulted in theft of its intellectual property. The sources, who are familiar with the situation, told Reuters that the attack, which targeted people who have access to specific parts of Google networks, may have been facilitated by people working in Google China's office. We're not commenting on rumor and speculation. This is an ongoing investigation, and we simply cannot comment on the details, a Google spokeswoman said. The investigation that one or more Google employees may have been involved in the Google breach would represent one facet of a broader attack that Google said targeted at least 20 other companies. Adobe Systems Inc, Juniper Network Inc and Rackspace Hosting Inc have all acknowledged being targets and a person familiar with the situation said Yahoo Inc was also a target. George Kurtz, the Chief Technology Officer of security software maker McAfee Inc, wrote in the McAfee corporate blog on Sunday that the targeted and coordinated nature of the attacks on various companies made them the most sophisticated cyberattack the company had seen in years Security analysts told Reuters the malicious software (malware) used in the Google attack was a modification of a Trojan called Hydraq. A Trojan is malware that, once inside a computer, allows someone unauthorized access. The sophistication in the attack was in knowing whom to attack, not the malware itself, the analysts said. Chinese media, citing unnamed sources, reported that some Google China employees were denied access to internal networks after January 13, while some staff were put on leave and others transferred to different offices in Google's Asia Pacific operations. Google said it would not comment on its business operations. TALKS SOON Google, which has denied rumors that it has already decided to shut down its China offices, said on Monday it contacted the Chinese government last week after the announcement. We are going to have talks with them in the coming few
[scifinoir2] Re: Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle
Just found the link for Conan putting himself up for sale... http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/conan-pimps-himself-out-on-craigslist-pic-vid.html --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: More proof as to how stuppid NBC Uni is... Since this entire debacle began, Conan's material has gotten better. He posted The Tonight Show for sale on Craigslist... http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPNkwk1ZsA And, last night, he put HIMSELF up on either that or evilBay, along with a list of conditions that had me in the floor. Unfortnately, that one hasn't been posted yet. NBCUni's loss, Fox's gain (if the whisper-stream is true). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:01:06 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Even Adult Swim is on Conan's side Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Posted by: Patricia O'Connell on January 19 It looks like Conan O'Brien isn't getting a golden parachute, but a golden muzzle. Is it worth it? The Tonight Show host (for now) has gotten a lot of mileageand improved ratingsout of poking fun at NBC, et al, over the mess about moving the show's time slot. And I admit watching Conan skewer his employers and colleague/competitor Jay Leno has been part of the great fun in watching Conan of late. But what will happen when he can't do that anymore? It looks like NBC will pay Conan O'Brien $40 million to walk away from The Tonight Show because of Conan's refusal to move the time of the show to 12:05 am. One of the apparent stipulations of the deal with NBC is that Conan refrain from bad-mouthing the network (and I assume the network also means Jay Leno and Jeff Zucker, two favorite O'Brien targets of late). I know I haven't been alone in being fascinated by this corporate drama/train wreck. And I think part of the reason we've enjoyed it so much is there's been a certain vicarious thrill in watching Conan trash his employer so publicly (and with such biting but still funny humor). Who hasn't wanted, on some occasion, to do so? I've been pretty lucky in my career. For the most part, I've worked for people and companies that were good to me and I respected, and I've had lots of great colleagues (and when I didn't, that was pre-Twitter). But everyone has wanted to stick it to their boss/company at some point, and rail about egregious unfairness, stupid decisions, how badly we've been treated, and undeserving colleagues. And for a while there, Conan was venting for all of us. It was fun while it lasted. What if Conan were to get $20 million from, say, Fox, and not have to take NBC's deal along with its muzzle? (Yes, I know, most severance packages contain some proviso that you not trash the company giving you your walking papers. But most of us don't get humiliated by our employers publicly, either.) Trashing NBC would get old after a while, and would make Conan seem bitter. But it would be fun to know that he just might be able to throw a zinger every so often, when the situation warrants. So, what's the takeway for people who aren't managing networks or negotiating $40 million severance packages? Treat employees with dignity and fairness. Not an original insight, but still a useful one. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Well I bought 12 Monkeys today (had it on VHS, those days are obviously over) so I think I'm going to watch that after American Idol. I'll need some of that to get rid of some that. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:53:23 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Just pulled it out of storage. it's right here by my computer, waiting for me to be done with e-mail. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:29:19 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I love that movie! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:14:54 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Aubrey, I don't have that one on hand... but I do have Time Bandits. John Cleese as Hood. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:40:02 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I don't like Crowe, I definitely don't like Crowe in this role, and were it anyone else, I would potentially have an open mind to a buffer darker and more violent guy, but that's not how I see Robin and I doubt I will associate this new thing with what I feel about Robin and His Merry Men. I think I'll go watch Cary Elwes in Men in Tights now. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:21:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Do you not like Crowe, Crowe in this role, or a *buff* Crowe as Robin? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in anticipation--I love Robin Hood, King Arthur, and all that stuff--and was a bit surprised to see the Robin of Loxley portrayed by none other than Russell Crowe! Seeing Crowe stalk across the screen in this obviously darker, more violent, and more militaristic treatment, i turned to my wife and said, Wow! That is the biggest-a$$, buffest Robin I've ever seen! Interviews I've read with Crowe say this is a reimagining of Robin, focusing more
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle
He also got an offer to do a porn movie as well. Which is a bit odd but funny. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Martin truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Just found the link for Conan putting himself up for sale... http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/conan-pimps-himself-out-on-craigslist-pic-vid.html --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: More proof as to how stuppid NBC Uni is... Since this entire debacle began, Conan's material has gotten better. He posted The Tonight Show for sale on Craigslist... http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPNkwk1ZsA And, last night, he put HIMSELF up on either that or evilBay, along with a list of conditions that had me in the floor. Unfortnately, that one hasn't been posted yet. NBCUni's loss, Fox's gain (if the whisper-stream is true). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:01:06 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Even Adult Swim is on Conan's side Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Posted by: Patricia O'Connell on January 19 It looks like Conan O'Brien isn't getting a golden parachute, but a golden muzzle. Is it worth it? The Tonight Show host (for now) has gotten a lot of mileage—and improved ratings—out of poking fun at NBC, et al, over the mess about moving the show's time slot. And I admit watching Conan skewer his employers and colleague/competitor Jay Leno has been part of the great fun in watching Conan of late. But what will happen when he can't do that anymore? It looks like NBC will pay Conan O'Brien $40 million to walk away from The Tonight Show because of Conan's refusal to move the time of the show to 12:05 am. One of the apparent stipulations of the deal with NBC is that Conan refrain from bad-mouthing the network (and I assume the network also means Jay Leno and Jeff Zucker, two favorite O'Brien targets of late). I know I haven't been alone in being fascinated by this corporate drama/train wreck. And I think part of the reason we've enjoyed it so much is there's been a certain vicarious thrill in watching Conan trash his employer so publicly (and with such biting but still funny humor). Who hasn't wanted, on some occasion, to do so? I've been pretty lucky in my career. For the most part, I've worked for people and companies that were good to me and I respected, and I've had lots of great colleagues (and when I didn't, that was pre-Twitter). But everyone has wanted to stick it to their boss/company at some point, and rail about egregious unfairness, stupid decisions, how badly we've been treated, and undeserving colleagues. And for a while there, Conan was venting for all of us. It was fun while it lasted. … What if Conan were to get $20 million from, say, Fox, and not have to take NBC's deal along with its muzzle? (Yes, I know, most severance packages contain some proviso that you not trash the company giving you your walking papers. But most of us don't get humiliated by our employers publicly, either.) Trashing NBC would get old after a while, and would make Conan seem bitter. But it would be fun to know that he just might be able to throw a zinger every so often, when the situation warrants. So, what's the takeway for people who aren't managing networks or negotiating $40 million severance packages? Treat employees with dignity and fairness. Not an original insight, but still a useful one. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle
Doesn't surprise me. He's got a face for porn. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:10:01 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle He also got an offer to do a porn movie as well. Which is a bit odd but funny. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Martin truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Just found the link for Conan putting himself up for sale... http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/conan-pimps-himself-out-on-craigslist-pic-vid.html --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: More proof as to how stuppid NBC Uni is... Since this entire debacle began, Conan's material has gotten better. He posted The Tonight Show for sale on Craigslist... http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPNkwk1ZsA And, last night, he put HIMSELF up on either that or evilBay, along with a list of conditions that had me in the floor. Unfortnately, that one hasn't been posted yet. NBCUni's loss, Fox's gain (if the whisper-stream is true). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:01:06 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Even Adult Swim is on Conan's side Conan's O'Brien's $40 Million Muzzle Posted by: Patricia O'Connell on January 19 It looks like Conan O'Brien isn't getting a golden parachute, but a golden muzzle. Is it worth it? The Tonight Show host (for now) has gotten a lot of mileage—and improved ratings—out of poking fun at NBC, et al, over the mess about moving the show's time slot. And I admit watching Conan skewer his employers and colleague/competitor Jay Leno has been part of the great fun in watching Conan of late. But what will happen when he can't do that anymore? It looks like NBC will pay Conan O'Brien $40 million to walk away from The Tonight Show because of Conan's refusal to move the time of the show to 12:05 am. One of the apparent stipulations of the deal with NBC is that Conan refrain from bad-mouthing the network (and I assume the network also means Jay Leno and Jeff Zucker, two favorite O'Brien targets of late). I know I haven't been alone in being fascinated by this corporate drama/train wreck. And I think part of the reason we've enjoyed it so much is there's been a certain vicarious thrill in watching Conan trash his employer so publicly (and with such biting but still funny humor). Who hasn't wanted, on some occasion, to do so? I've been pretty lucky in my career. For the most part, I've worked for people and companies that were good to me and I respected, and I've had lots of great colleagues (and when I didn't, that was pre-Twitter). But everyone has wanted to stick it to their boss/company at some point, and rail about egregious unfairness, stupid decisions, how badly we've been treated, and undeserving colleagues. And for a while there, Conan was venting for all of us. It was fun while it lasted. … What if Conan were to get $20 million from, say, Fox, and not have to take NBC's deal along with its muzzle? (Yes, I know, most severance packages contain some proviso that you not trash the company giving you your walking papers. But most of us don't get humiliated by our employers publicly, either.) Trashing NBC would get old after a while, and would make Conan seem bitter. But it would be fun to know that he just might be able to throw a zinger every so often, when the situation warrants. So, what's the takeway for people who aren't managing networks or negotiating $40 million severance packages? Treat employees with dignity and fairness. Not an original insight, but still a useful one. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional
RE: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack
I shouldn't. Dated one for six months. Not only hated goose-steppers, but MAN was she easy on the eyes. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:27:10 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack Let us not forget the Nazi decedents living in Argentina and Brazil. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The threats are a strong possibility. A few more exchanges, and we'll have a good outline of a screenplay, Mr Worf. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:10:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack It may be that they were threatening their family members or something. Google does have a lot of nice benefits. I took a short tour there a couple of weeks ago. Their campus is ginormus! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: (picking jaw up off floor...) That surprises me. With all of the crazy pay and benefits I'v eheard that Google employees receive, it would take a lot to turn them against the company. Maybe China had a few agents planted. (Now there's an H'Wood film waiting to be made.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:04:15 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack Google probing possible inside help on attack Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:15am EST Related News China says Google no exception to the law8:44am ESTLittle future for Google in China without search Thu, Jan 14 2010China defends censorship after Google threatThu, Jan 14 2010Google could find new road in China Thu, Jan 14 2010Factbox: Foreign firms that withdrew from ChinaThu, Jan 14 2010 SAN FRANCISCO/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Google is investigating whether one or more employees may have helped facilitate a cyber-attack from China that the U.S. search giant said it was a victim of in mid-December, two sources told Reuters on Monday. Technology | Media Google, the world's most popular search engine, said last week it may pull out of the world's biggest Internet market by users after reporting it had been hit by a sophisticated cyber-attack on its network that resulted in theft of its intellectual property. The sources, who are familiar with the situation, told Reuters that the attack, which targeted people who have access to specific parts of Google networks, may have been facilitated by people working in Google China's office. We're not commenting on rumor and speculation. This is an ongoing investigation, and we simply cannot comment on the details, a Google spokeswoman said. The investigation that one or more Google employees may have been involved in the Google breach would represent one facet of a broader attack that Google said targeted at least 20 other companies. Adobe Systems Inc, Juniper Network Inc and Rackspace Hosting Inc have all acknowledged being targets and a person familiar with the situation said Yahoo Inc was also a target. George Kurtz, the Chief Technology Officer of security software maker McAfee Inc, wrote in the McAfee corporate blog on Sunday that the targeted and coordinated nature of the attacks on various companies made them the most sophisticated cyberattack the company had seen in years Security analysts told Reuters the malicious software (malware) used in the Google attack was a modification of a Trojan called Hydraq. A Trojan is malware that, once inside a computer, allows someone unauthorized access. The sophistication in the attack was in knowing whom to attack, not the malware itself, the analysts said. Chinese media, citing unnamed sources, reported that some Google China employees were denied access to internal networks after January 13, while some staff were put on leave and others transferred to different offices in Google's Asia Pacific operations. Google said it would not comment on its business
RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today
Yeah, that did rankle. I wondered why they didn't just post it on banners in all of their HQs. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:22:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today The only thing that bugged me about the show and a few others is the repeating mantra about Cade. Its like Terminator Salvation. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree, Mr Worf. Did have its moments of excellence, especially in how they crafted some of the sub-plots. The alien brother who was hunting Cade, eventually coming to doubt his own side's standing was good work. A bit predictable at times, but still kept me tuned in. Wish I'd been able to watch it today (busy between work and trying to hunt down a printer cartridge). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:03:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today There's a First Wave marathon on today. Which is a similar idea. It was a pretty good show. Not excellent, but still pretty good. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: For the second time today, I say, Yowza! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:17:03 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I kind of enjoyed watching the Invaders. It was interesting to see a scifi show done with the same style as the Streets of San Francisco. :) OOooo! I just had an interesting thought. What if they did a scifi show in the style of Law and Order? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I can't really take marathons of shows either, Tracey, not even Doctor Who. I did have to tune out of The Invaders a couple of times, for my own sanity. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:18:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I enjoyed the last marathon I saw a few years ago, but I enjoyed it more for the nostalgia. I’m not sure if I would watch it all the time like same the twilight zone. Same thing with time tunnel. I watch it every once in a while , (they had it in Mexico, but I do not think I would go for it on a regular basis From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Tracey, I still do. The isolation and loneliness that Vincent had to be living with as he went, never fully knowing who he could trust. One ep this morn starred Suzanne Pleshette as a woman whom Vincent fell for (though he never betrayed the emotion, beyond his eyes), who was a quisling for the aliens. When he figured out that she'd betrayed him, he was gutshot. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:03:32 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I used to love that show. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:53 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Just fell across it. It's the original, with Roy Thinnes. IMO, worth a bit of time for the catch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email
RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes?
Again, I'll have to take your word on the Raelians. As for the Mormons, I'm increasingly shocked at the level of venom I've seen out of the people. Their overt stance against same-sex marriage and some of the prime chunks of hate that Orson Scott Card has posted, jsut t name two. I've only known one Mormon personally, and he's a fellow alum of mine. Virginia State. There, if you saw a White face in the crowd, your first instinct was to walk over and give them directions, because they HAD to be lost. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:18:59 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? The Teutonic warrior statement was about the aryans. The Raelians aren't a physical threat but they could potentially pose one in the future. Some of the alternative religions have very deep pockets. For example, the Mormons, Scientologists, and the Moonies all have organizations worth billions each. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, the Raelians you've met and the ones I've met are apparently of a completely different equivalency class. The ones I encountered my last time in L.A. during the first OJ trial made lemmings look lethal. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:08:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? They have fantasies of giant axe wielding Teutonic warriors ala video game. Don't discount the Raelians. They don't have the restraints that ethical scientists do around the world so they could come up with some large developments. But then again it does sound a bit like a Bond film doesn't it? The claims of an Italian clone are being done by Facist Neo-Nazi Italians which are a little different than the generic goombahs in southern Italy. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Raelian eugenics... a moment, whilst I chortle. Italian eugenics programs, however... I know a few Italians. You don't wanna f*ck with them. (And I'm excluding those with La Costra Nosa ties, mind you.) Same with almost everyone in Africa... wouldn't the Aryan Brotherhood crap its pants over that? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:21:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? There have already been threats to make a clone army by the Italians and the Raelians, but we could end up in a situation like on Star Trek with Eugenic wars. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The slippery slope is my problem too, Tracey. I could see the Chinese engineering more boy births and fewer girl births, and someone might want to go the way of the Sauron supermen from The Mote In God's Eye (think the Augments from Enterprise, only meaner and less schemey). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:22:42 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? See, I have some genetic , incurable crap too. I think I would want that out to. However, I believe it is likely a slippery slope From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:23 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? In a word, no, not even if it meant ridding them of the genetic combo that gave me what I've got. Though an improvement on my genes would be an incalculable gain for Mankind... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From:
Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack
There was a book that I read about the Nazis in Argentina. They have several armed compounds there including entire towns that speak only German. Funny how so many of the world's outcasts make their way there. Have you read about the families of the confederates that moved to south america after the civil war? PBS did a mini-series on them a couple of years ago. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: I shouldn't. Dated one for six months. Not only hated goose-steppers, but MAN was she easy on the eyes. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:27:10 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack Let us not forget the Nazi decedents living in Argentina and Brazil. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The threats are a strong possibility. A few more exchanges, and we'll have a good outline of a screenplay, Mr Worf. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:10:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack It may be that they were threatening their family members or something. Google does have a lot of nice benefits. I took a short tour there a couple of weeks ago. Their campus is ginormus! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: (picking jaw up off floor...) That surprises me. With all of the crazy pay and benefits I'v eheard that Google employees receive, it would take a lot to turn them against the company. Maybe China had a few agents planted. (Now there's an H'Wood film waiting to be made.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:04:15 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Google probing possible inside help on attack Google probing possible inside help on attack Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:15am EST Related News - China says Google no exception to the lawhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60I0QS20100119 8:44am EST - Little future for Google in China without searchhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE60D06820100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - China defends censorship after Google threathttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60C1TR20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - Google could find new road in Chinahttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60D0GC20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 - Factbox: Foreign firms that withdrew from Chinahttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60D0SD20100114 Thu, Jan 14 2010 [image: A cleaner looks out from the lobby of Google China's headquarters in Beijing, January 15, 2010. REUTERS/Alfred Jin] SAN FRANCISCO/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Google is investigating whether one or more employees may have helped facilitate a cyber-attack from China that the U.S. search giant said it was a victim of in mid-December, two sources told Reuters on Monday. Technology http://www.reuters.com/news/technology | Mediahttp://www.reuters.com/news/media Google, the world's most popular search engine, said last week it may pull out of the world's biggest Internet market by users after reporting it had been hit by a sophisticated cyber-attack on its network that resulted in theft of its intellectual property. The sources, who are familiar with the situation, told Reuters that the attack, which targeted people who have access to specific parts of Google networks, may have been facilitated by people working in Google China's office. We're not commenting on rumor and speculation. This is an ongoing investigation, and we simply cannot comment on the details, a Google spokeswoman said. The investigation that one or more Google employees may have been involved in the Google breach would represent one facet of a broader attack that Google said targeted at least 20 other companies. Adobe Systems Inc, Juniper Network Inc and Rackspace Hosting Inc have all acknowledged being targets and a person familiar with the situation said Yahoo Inc was also a target. George Kurtz, the Chief Technology Officer of security software maker McAfee Inc, wrote in the McAfee corporate blog on Sunday that the targeted and coordinated nature of the attacks on various companies made them the most sophisticated
Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes?
Hehe that's funny. There are a lot of them here in the outskirts of San Francisco. They have a huge temple in the Oakland hills. It is so big and out of place that my sister thought it was Disneyland when we were kids. Here are a couple of pictures: http://gallery.christ.org/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItemg2_itemId=1129g2_serialNumber=2 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/c/c4/20070907202536!Oakland_Mormon_Temple.jpg I know a couple of Mormons of color. It always bothered me why would they participate in a religion that does not officially allow them to be in the management of the church. Not to mention the subtle manipulation behind the scenes of government and business for the last 4 decades. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Again, I'll have to take your word on the Raelians. As for the Mormons, I'm increasingly shocked at the level of venom I've seen out of the people. Their overt stance against same-sex marriage and some of the prime chunks of hate that Orson Scott Card has posted, jsut t name two. I've only known one Mormon personally, and he's a fellow alum of mine. Virginia State. There, if you saw a White face in the crowd, your first instinct was to walk over and give them directions, because they HAD to be lost. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:18:59 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? The Teutonic warrior statement was about the aryans. The Raelians aren't a physical threat but they could potentially pose one in the future. Some of the alternative religions have very deep pockets. For example, the Mormons, Scientologists, and the Moonies all have organizations worth billions each. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, the Raelians you've met and the ones I've met are apparently of a completely different equivalency class. The ones I encountered my last time in L.A. during the first OJ trial made lemmings look lethal. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:08:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? They have fantasies of giant axe wielding Teutonic warriors ala video game. Don't discount the Raelians. They don't have the restraints that ethical scientists do around the world so they could come up with some large developments. But then again it does sound a bit like a Bond film doesn't it? The claims of an Italian clone are being done by Facist Neo-Nazi Italians which are a little different than the generic goombahs in southern Italy. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Raelian eugenics... a moment, whilst I chortle. Italian eugenics programs, however... I know a few Italians. You don't wanna f*ck with them. (And I'm excluding those with La Costra Nosa ties, mind you.) Same with almost everyone in Africa... wouldn't the Aryan Brotherhood crap its pants over that? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:21:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? There have already been threats to make a clone army by the Italians and the Raelians, but we could end up in a situation like on Star Trek with Eugenic wars. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The slippery slope is my problem too, Tracey. I could see the Chinese engineering more boy births and fewer girl births, and someone might want to go the way of the Sauron supermen from The Mote In God's Eye (think the Augments from Enterprise, only meaner and less schemey). If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:22:42 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: Would you modify your kid's genes? See, I have some genetic , incurable crap too. I think I would want that out to. However, I believe it is likely a slippery slope
[scifinoir2] Bruce Campbell to Star in Bruce vs Frankenstein | WorstPreviews.com
Posted: January 19th, 2010 by WorstPreviews.com Staffhttp://www.worstpreviews.com/contact_us.php?body=Questiontype=2 [image: Bruce Campbell to Star in Bruce vs Frankenstein][image: Submit Comment]http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=16477utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+worstpreviews%2Fheadlines-30+%28WorstPreviews.com+-+Headlines+%2830+most+recent%29%29utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#comments Bruce Campbellhttp://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=16477utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+worstpreviews%2Fheadlines-30+%28WorstPreviews.com+-+Headlines+%2830+most+recent%29%29utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#has just sent an email to AICN to let them know that he will return for a My Name is Bruce sequel, which is now being called Bruce vs Frankenstein. Here is what Campbell had to say: *Hello everyone. Bruce Campbell here. This urgent message is short, because my keystrokes are monitored and I fear for my life. My partner at Dark Horse comics, Mike Richardson (normally a very rational and talented man), threatened to have his foot soldiers crush my spleen if I did what I am about to do. But the fans deserve to know, so with great trepidation I officially announce Bruce Vs. Frankenstein, the sequel to My Name is Bruce. Principal photography begins this fall in Oregon. I'd like to live long enough to see the cameras roll, so please, for the love of God, do not tell anyone - I can't risk this announcement getting back to Mike! Thank you.* This only means that Campbell is not getting ready to film another Evil Dead movie, and we already know that he's not returning for Bubba Nosferatu. Read more: http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=16477utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+worstpreviews%2Fheadlines-30+%28WorstPreviews.com+-+Headlines+%2830+most+recent%29%29utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#ixzz0d6nSOht9 http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=16477utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+worstpreviews%2Fheadlines-30+%28WorstPreviews.com+-+Headlines+%2830+most+recent%29%29utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
Aubrey, you may need the DVD extras as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:04:48 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Well I bought 12 Monkeys today (had it on VHS, those days are obviously over) so I think I'm going to watch that after American Idol. I'll need some of that to get rid of some that. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:53:23 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Just pulled it out of storage. it's right here by my computer, waiting for me to be done with e-mail. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:29:19 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I love that movie! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:14:54 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Aubrey, I don't have that one on hand... but I do have Time Bandits. John Cleese as Hood. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:40:02 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I don't like Crowe, I definitely don't like Crowe in this role, and were it anyone else, I would potentially have an open mind to a buffer darker and more violent guy, but that's not how I see Robin and I doubt I will associate this new thing with what I feel about Robin and His Merry Men. I think I'll go watch Cary Elwes in Men in Tights now. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:21:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Do you not like Crowe, Crowe in this role, or a *buff* Crowe as Robin? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:51:12 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Man, this is wild. When seeing It's Complicated the other day (for the wife, you know), i was treated to a trailer for a new film treatment of the Robin Hood mythos. I sat up in my seat in
Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today
That was the point Rave and I were making. The Invaders was shot with the same sensibility, music, structure, plotting, even showrunners and actors, that you'd get from those 60's and 70's cop shows. That gave it a realism you wouldn't necessarily get in a scifi show like that all the time, especially back then. If you look at the Irwin Allen fare from those days (TIme Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea), and the Quinn Martin productions (Mannix, Cannon, The Fugitive, etc.), there are incredible similarities of feeling between the genre shows. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:17:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I kind of enjoyed watching the Invaders. It was interesting to see a scifi show done with the same style as the Streets of San Francisco. :) OOooo! I just had an interesting thought. What if they did a scifi show in the style of Law and Order? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I can't really take marathons of shows either, Tracey, not even Doctor Who. I did have to tune out of The Invaders a couple of times, for my own sanity. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:18:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I enjoyed the last marathon I saw a few years ago, but I enjoyed it more for the nostalgia. I’m not sure if I would watch it all the time like same the twilight zone. Same thing with time tunnel. I watch it every once in a while , (they had it in Mexico, but I do not think I would go for it on a regular basis From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Tracey, I still do. The isolation and loneliness that Vincent had to be living with as he went, never fully knowing who he could trust. One ep this morn starred Suzanne Pleshette as a woman whom Vincent fell for (though he never betrayed the emotion, beyond his eyes), who was a quisling for the aliens. When he figured out that she'd betrayed him, he was gutshot. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:03:32 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today I used to love that show. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:53 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: [scifinoir2] The Invaders marathon on Siffy today Just fell across it. It's the original, with Roy Thinnes. IMO, worth a bit of time for the catch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] OT: Brown Projected for Upset Win in Massachusetts
Aw damnwell, I guess this may be a wakeup call for some of the Dems who were still fighting the Prez in stuff like health care. Damn... * http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/19/massachusetts.senate/index.html?hpt=T1 Boston, Massachusetts (CNN) -- Republican Scott Brown has won Tuesday's special election for the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by liberal Democrat Ted Kennedy, CNN projects based on actual results. Brown, a Massachusetts state senator, had 52 percent of the vote to 47 percent for state Attorney General Martha Coakley, the Democratic contender, with over 69 percent of precincts reporting in results from the National Election Pool, a consortium of media organizations including CNN. Independent candidate Joseph Kennedy, a libertarian who is not related to the Kennedy political family of Massachusetts, had 1 percent. At stake was President Obama's domestic agenda, including health care reform. If Brown upsets Coakley, Republicans will strip Democrats of the 60-seat Senate supermajority needed to overcome GOP filibusters against future Senate action on a broad range of White House priorities. Final numbers on election turnout are expected to be pretty good despite the wintry weather, said Brian McNiff, a spokesman for the office of Massachusetts Secretary of State Bill Galvin. I don't think weather is going to impede too many people from coming out to vote, McNiff said Tuesday. I think the interest in this election will trump any bad weather. Galvin predicted Monday as many 2.2 million of the state's 4.5 million registered voters would vote -- at least double the turnout from December's primary. In one sign of high interest, more than 100,000 absentee ballots were requested ahead of the election, according to McNiff. iReport: Send us your thoughts on the special election Coakley was initially expected to easily win the race to replace Sen. Ted Kennedy, known as the liberal lion of the Senate who made health care reform the centerpiece of his nearly 47-year Senate career. Kennedy died of brain cancer in August. Until recently, Brown was underfunded and unknown statewide. In addition, no Republican has won a U.S. Senate race in Massachusetts since 1972, and Democrats control the governorship, both houses of the state legislature, and the state's entire congressional delegation. The latest poll, however, showed Brown leading Coakley by 7 points, 52 to 45 percent. The American Research Group survey, taken Friday through Sunday, had a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. No polls released in the past few days showed Coakley ahead. In a sign of the high stakes involved, the Coakley campaign held an afternoon news conference Tuesday to complain that voters in three places received ballots already marked for Brown. McNiff confirmed that the secretary of state's offices received two reports of voters saying they got pre-marked ballots. The suspect ballots were invalidated and the voters received new ballots, McNiff said. Kevin Conroy, the Coakley campaign manager, said the disturbing incidents raised questions about the integrity of the election. In response, the Brown campaign issued a statement criticizing Coakley's team. Reports that the Coakley campaign is making reckless accusations regarding the integrity of today's election is a reminder that they are a desperate campaign, Daniel B. Winslow, the counsel for the Brown campaign, said in the statement. Obama has been both surprised and frustrated by the race, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday. Obama and former President Bill Clinton hit the campaign trail over the past three days in an attempt to save Coakley's campaign, which observers say has been hampered by complacency and missteps. Obama crushed Sen. John McCain in Massachusetts in 2008, beating the GOP presidential nominee by 26 points. If you were fired up in the last election, I need you more fired up in this election, Obama urged a crowd at a Coakley campaign rally on Sunday. Vicki Kennedy, the senator's widow, called on state Democrats to turn out to save her husband's legacy. We need your help. We need your support. We need you to get out there and vote on Tuesday, Kennedy said. We need you to bring your neighbors. We need you to bring your friends. Brown, who has trumpeted his 30 years of service in the National Guard, hewed to traditional GOP themes at the end of the campaign. He promised at a rally Sunday that, if elected, he would back tax cuts and be tougher on terrorists than Coakley. He also repeated a pledge to oppose Obama's health care reform effort. Massachusetts wants real reform and not this trillion-dollar Obama health care that is being forced on the American people, he said. As the 41st [Republican] senator I will make sure that we do it better. Forty-four percent of
RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood
LOL. You might be right! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:14:28 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Aubrey, you may need the DVD extras as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:04:48 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Well I bought 12 Monkeys today (had it on VHS, those days are obviously over) so I think I'm going to watch that after American Idol. I'll need some of that to get rid of some that. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:53:23 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Just pulled it out of storage. it's right here by my computer, waiting for me to be done with e-mail. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:29:19 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I love that movie! Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:14:54 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Aubrey, I don't have that one on hand... but I do have Time Bandits. John Cleese as Hood. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:40:02 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I don't like Crowe, I definitely don't like Crowe in this role, and were it anyone else, I would potentially have an open mind to a buffer darker and more violent guy, but that's not how I see Robin and I doubt I will associate this new thing with what I feel about Robin and His Merry Men. I think I'll go watch Cary Elwes in Men in Tights now. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:21:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood Do you not like Crowe, Crowe in this role, or a *buff* Crowe as Robin? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Scott and Crowe Back Again for Robin Hood I saw that trailer before Sherlock Holmes and I was appalled, my mom and cousin who are much bigger Crowe fans than me (not hard to be even though really I should be all over since I like bigo ol' buff badass actors, but this guy does absolutely nothing for me) were super excited. I don't get the crazy buff image. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
[scifinoir2] Torchwood is Coming to the U.S.
Plucking British shows from across the pond and remaking them for American audiences is not a new practice. Also not new is the fact that most of them end in disaster. Still, anyone with half a brain knows the trend will continue, and that we'll just have to deal with it. But the latest show to get picked for Americanization even made me wince. Ready? Okay, here goes: Fox is importing http://www.tv.com/torchwood/show/50470/summary.html Torchwood, the popular spinoff of http://www.tv.com/doctor-who/show/34391/summary.html Doctor Who, according to http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3id183 d5e80b48e57c7ceb299df8e4c2b0 The Hollywood Reporter. The show has a solid pack of rabid fans here in the United States, and the standalone miniseries Children of Earth delivered big-time ratings for BBC America when it aired last year. In other words, a lot of people are going to be very weary of the project. However, there is one indication that a U.S. Torchwood won't be a shell of its former self. Series creator Russell Davies is writing the script, and the rest of the Torchwood production team is on board for the U.S. version. Whereas the original Torchwood focused on a small group of operatives that dealt with aliens on a local basis, the U.S. version will feature a branch of the Torchwood Institute and cover more international territory. With Davies on board, there's an infinitesimal chance that the reboot will actually be good. What's your hope for the series? http://www.tv.com/torchwood-is-coming-to-the-u.s./story/20871.html?tag=hotsp ot;gumball;1
Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood is Coming to the U.S.
I'm trying to keep an open mind on this. Folks really seem to like the Office. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Plucking British shows from across the pond and remaking them for American audiences is not a new practice. Also not new is the fact that most of them end in disaster. Still, anyone with half a brain knows the trend will continue, and that we'll just have to deal with it. But the latest show to get picked for Americanization even made *me* wince. Ready? Okay, here goes: Fox is importing *Torchwood*http://www.tv.com/torchwood/show/50470/summary.html, the popular spinoff of *Doctor Who*http://www.tv.com/doctor-who/show/34391/summary.html, according to *The Hollywood Reporter*http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3id183d5e80b48e57c7ceb299df8e4c2b0. The show has a solid pack of rabid fans here in the United States, and the standalone miniseries *Children of Earth* delivered big-time ratings for BBC America when it aired last year. In other words, a lot of people are going to be very weary of the project. However, there is one indication that a U.S. *Torchwood* won't be a shell of its former self. Series creator Russell Davies is writing the script, and the rest of the *Torchwood* production team is on board for the U.S. version. Whereas the original *Torchwood* focused on a small group of operatives that dealt with aliens on a local basis, the U.S. version will feature a branch of the Torchwood Institute and cover more international territory. With Davies on board, there's an infinitesimal chance that the reboot will actually be good. What's your hope for the series? http://www.tv.com/torchwood-is-coming-to-the-u.s./story/20871.html?tag=hotspot;gumball;1 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood is Coming to the U.S.
The Office is the only British import that is wayyy better in the US. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to keep an open mind on this. Folks really seem to like the Office. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Plucking British shows from across the pond and remaking them for American audiences is not a new practice. Also not new is the fact that most of them end in disaster. Still, anyone with half a brain knows the trend will continue, and that we'll just have to deal with it. But the latest show to get picked for Americanization even made *me* wince. Ready? Okay, here goes: Fox is importing *Torchwood*http://www.tv.com/torchwood/show/50470/summary.html, the popular spinoff of *Doctor Who*http://www.tv.com/doctor-who/show/34391/summary.html, according to *The Hollywood Reporter*http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3id183d5e80b48e57c7ceb299df8e4c2b0. The show has a solid pack of rabid fans here in the United States, and the standalone miniseries *Children of Earth* delivered big-time ratings for BBC America when it aired last year. In other words, a lot of people are going to be very weary of the project. However, there is one indication that a U.S. *Torchwood* won't be a shell of its former self. Series creator Russell Davies is writing the script, and the rest of the *Torchwood* production team is on board for the U.S. version. Whereas the original *Torchwood* focused on a small group of operatives that dealt with aliens on a local basis, the U.S. version will feature a branch of the Torchwood Institute and cover more international territory. With Davies on board, there's an infinitesimal chance that the reboot will actually be good. What's your hope for the series? http://www.tv.com/torchwood-is-coming-to-the-u.s./story/20871.html?tag=hotspot;gumball;1 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Brown Projected for Upset Win in Massachusetts
They said on the news that Coakley ran a sloppy campaign. In a state that was mostly democrats how could the democrat candidate lose? Obviously she was asleep at the wheel... On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Aw damnwell, I guess this may be a wakeup call for some of the Dems who were still fighting the Prez in stuff like health care. Damn... * http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/19/massachusetts.senate/index.html?hpt=T1 *Boston, Massachusetts (CNN) * -- Republican Scott Brown has won Tuesday's special election for the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by liberal Democrat Ted Kennedy, CNN projects based on actual results. * * Brown, a Massachusetts state senator, had 52 percent of the vote to 47 percent for state Attorney General Martha Coakley, the Democratic contender, with over 69 percent of precincts reporting in results from the National Election Pool, a consortium of media organizations including CNN. Independent candidate Joseph Kennedy, a libertarian who is not related to the Kennedy political family of Massachusetts, had 1 percent. At stake was President Obama's domestic agenda, including health care reform. If Brown upsets Coakley, Republicans will strip Democrats of the 60-seat Senate supermajority needed to overcome GOP filibusters against future Senate action on a broad range of White House priorities. Final numbers on election turnout are expected to be pretty good despite the wintry weather, said Brian McNiff, a spokesman for the office of Massachusetts Secretary of State Bill Galvin. I don't think weather is going to impede too many people from coming out to vote, McNiff said Tuesday. I think the interest in this election will trump any bad weather. Galvin predicted Monday as many 2.2 million of the state's 4.5 million registered voters would vote -- at least double the turnout from December's primary. In one sign of high interest, more than 100,000 absentee ballots were requested ahead of the election, according to McNiff. iReport: Send us your thoughts on the special electionhttp://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories.jspa?topicId=24330 Coakley was initially expected to easily win the race to replace Sen. Ted Kennedy, known as the liberal lion of the Senate who made health care reform the centerpiece of his nearly 47-year Senate career. Kennedy died of brain cancer in August. Until recently, Brown was underfunded and unknown statewide. In addition, no Republican has won a U.S. Senate race in Massachusetts since 1972, and Democrats control the governorship, both houses of the state legislature, and the state's entire congressional delegation. The latest poll, however, showed Brown leading Coakley by 7 points, 52 to 45 percent. The American Research Group survey, taken Friday through Sunday, had a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. No polls released in the past few days showed Coakley ahead. In a sign of the high stakes involved, the Coakley campaign held an afternoon news conference Tuesday to complain that voters in three places received ballots already marked for Brown. McNiff confirmed that the secretary of state's offices received two reports of voters saying they got pre-marked ballots. The suspect ballots were invalidated and the voters received new ballots, McNiff said. Kevin Conroy, the Coakley campaign manager, said the disturbing incidents raised questions about the integrity of the election. In response, the Brown campaign issued a statement criticizing Coakley's team. Reports that the Coakley campaign is making reckless accusations regarding the integrity of today's election is a reminder that they are a desperate campaign, Daniel B. Winslow, the counsel for the Brown campaign, said in the statement. Obama has been both surprised and frustrated by the race, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday. Obama and former President Bill Clinton hit the campaign trail over the past three days in an attempt to save Coakley's campaign, which observers say has been hampered by complacency and missteps. Obama crushed Sen. John McCain in Massachusetts in 2008, beating the GOP presidential nominee by 26 points. If you were fired up in the last election, I need you more fired up in this election, Obama urged a crowd at a Coakley campaign rally on Sunday. Vicki Kennedy, the senator's widow, called on state Democrats to turn out to save her husband's legacy. We need your help. We need your support. We need you to get out there and vote on Tuesday, Kennedy said. We need you to bring your neighbors. We need you to bring your friends. Brown, who has trumpeted his 30 years of service in the National Guard, hewed to traditional GOP themes at the end of the campaign. He promised at a rally Sunday that, if elected, he would back tax cuts and be tougher on terrorists than Coakley. He
Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood is Coming to the U.S.
If RTD is involved, I think it'll stand a chance. Doubly so should he bring Whedon on board. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to keep an open mind on this. Folks really seem to like the Office. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Plucking British shows from across the pond and remaking them for American audiences is not a new practice. Also not new is the fact that most of them end in disaster. Still, anyone with half a brain knows the trend will continue, and that we'll just have to deal with it. But the latest show to get picked for Americanization even made *me* wince. Ready? Okay, here goes: Fox is importing *Torchwood*http://www.tv.com/torchwood/show/50470/summary.html, the popular spinoff of *Doctor Who*http://www.tv.com/doctor-who/show/34391/summary.html, according to *The Hollywood Reporter*http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3id183d5e80b48e57c7ceb299df8e4c2b0. The show has a solid pack of rabid fans here in the United States, and the standalone miniseries *Children of Earth* delivered big-time ratings for BBC America when it aired last year. In other words, a lot of people are going to be very weary of the project. However, there is one indication that a U.S. *Torchwood* won't be a shell of its former self. Series creator Russell Davies is writing the script, and the rest of the *Torchwood* production team is on board for the U.S. version. Whereas the original *Torchwood* focused on a small group of operatives that dealt with aliens on a local basis, the U.S. version will feature a branch of the Torchwood Institute and cover more international territory. With Davies on board, there's an infinitesimal chance that the reboot will actually be good. What's your hope for the series? http://www.tv.com/torchwood-is-coming-to-the-u.s./story/20871.html?tag=hotspot;gumball;1 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Relativity drive: The end of wings and wheels?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125681.400 Relativity drive: The end of wings and wheels? - 08 September 2006 by *Justin Mullins*http://www.newscientist.com/search?rbauthors=Justin+Mullins - Magazine issue 2568 http://www.newscientist.com/issue/2568. * Subscribe* http://www.newscientist.com/subscribe?promcode=nsarttop and get 4 free issues. *Note: You can read debates on the article and make comments herehttp://www.newscientist.com/blog/fromthepublisher/2006/10/emdrive-on-trial.html, and read Shawyer's theory paper here (pdf format)http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/av/shawyertheory.pdf .* The trip from London to Havant on the south coast of England is like travelling through time. I sit in an air-conditioned train, on tracks first laid 150 years ago, passing roads that were known to the Romans. At one point, I pick out a canal boat, queues of cars and the trail from a high-flying jet - the evolution of mechanised travel in a single glance. But evolution has a habit of springing surprises. Waiting at my destination is a man who would put an end to mechanised travel. Roger Shawyer has developed an engine with no moving parts that he believes can replace rockets and make trains, planes and automobiles obsolete. The end of wings and wheels is how he puts it. It's a bold claim. (Too bold? See the later feedback here http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19225720.700 and herehttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19225740.300 ) Of course, any crackpot can rough out plans for a warp drive. What they never show you is evidence that it works. Shawyer is different. He has built a working prototype to test his ideas, and as a respected spacecraft engineer he has persuaded the British government to fund his work. Now organisations from other parts of the world, including the US air force and the Chinese government, are beating a path to his tiny company. The device that has sparked their interest is an engine that generates thrust purely from electromagnetic radiation - microwaves to be precise - by exploiting the strange properties of relativity. It has no moving parts, and releases no exhaust or noxious emissions. Potentially, it could pack the punch of a rocket in a box the size of a suitcase. It could one day replace the engines on almost any spacecraft. More advanced versions might allow cars to lift from the ground and hover. It could even lead to aircraft that will not need wings at all. I can't help thinking that it sounds too good to be true. When I meet Shawyer, he turns out to be reassuringly normal. His credentials are certainly impressive. He worked his way up through the aerospace industry, designing and building navigation and communications equipment for military and commercial satellites, before becoming a senior aerospace engineer at Matra Marconi Space (later part of EADS Astrium) in Portsmouth, near where he now lives. He was also a consultant to the Galileo project, Europe's satellite navigation system, which engineers are now testing in orbit and for which he negotiated the use of the radio frequencies it needed. Dangerous idea With that pedigree, you'd imagine Shawyer would be someone the space industry would have listened to. Far from it. While at Astrium, Shawyer proposed that the company develop his idea. I was told in no uncertain terms to drop it, he says. This came from the very top. What Shawyer had in mind was a replacement for the small thrusters conventional satellites use to stay in orbit. The fuel they need makes up about half their launch weight, and also limits a satellite's life: once it runs out, the vehicle drifts out of position and must be replaced. Shawyer's engine, by contrast, would be propelled by microwaves generated from solar energy. The photovoltaic cells would eliminate the fuel, and with the launch weight halved, satellite manufacturers could send up two craft for the price of one, so you would only need half as many launches. So why the problem? Shawyer argues that for companies investing billions in rockets and launch sites, a new technology that leads to fewer launches and longer-lasting satellites has little commercial appeal. By the same token, a company that offers more for less usually wins in the end, so Shawyer's idea may have been seen as too speculative. Whatever the reason, in 2000, he resigned to go it alone. Surprisingly, Shawyer's disruptive technology rests on an idea that goes back more than a century. In 1871 the physicist James Clerk Maxwell worked out that light should exert a force on any surface it hits, like the wind on a sail. This so-called radiation pressure is extremely weak, though. Last year, a group called The Planetary Society attempted to launch a solar sail called Cosmos 1 into orbit. The sail had a surface area of about 600 square metres. Despite this large area, about the size of two tennis courts, its developers calculated that sunlight striking it would produce a force of 3 millinewtons,
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Brown Projected for Upset Win in Massachusetts
As a Massachusetts resident, all I can say is that I got into that voting booth and voted Coakley. She wasn't perfect but dammit, everyone who voted third party essentially got Brown into office. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Aw damnwell, I guess this may be a wakeup call for some of the Dems who were still fighting the Prez in stuff like health care. Damn... * http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/19/massachusetts.senate/index.html?hpt=T1 *Boston, Massachusetts (CNN) * -- Republican Scott Brown has won Tuesday's special election for the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by liberal Democrat Ted Kennedy, CNN projects based on actual results. * * Brown, a Massachusetts state senator, had 52 percent of the vote to 47 percent for state Attorney General Martha Coakley, the Democratic contender, with over 69 percent of precincts reporting in results from the National Election Pool, a consortium of media organizations including CNN. Independent candidate Joseph Kennedy, a libertarian who is not related to the Kennedy political family of Massachusetts, had 1 percent. At stake was President Obama's domestic agenda, including health care reform. If Brown upsets Coakley, Republicans will strip Democrats of the 60-seat Senate supermajority needed to overcome GOP filibusters against future Senate action on a broad range of White House priorities. Final numbers on election turnout are expected to be pretty good despite the wintry weather, said Brian McNiff, a spokesman for the office of Massachusetts Secretary of State Bill Galvin. I don't think weather is going to impede too many people from coming out to vote, McNiff said Tuesday. I think the interest in this election will trump any bad weather. Galvin predicted Monday as many 2.2 million of the state's 4.5 million registered voters would vote -- at least double the turnout from December's primary. In one sign of high interest, more than 100,000 absentee ballots were requested ahead of the election, according to McNiff. iReport: Send us your thoughts on the special electionhttp://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories.jspa?topicId=24330 Coakley was initially expected to easily win the race to replace Sen. Ted Kennedy, known as the liberal lion of the Senate who made health care reform the centerpiece of his nearly 47-year Senate career. Kennedy died of brain cancer in August. Until recently, Brown was underfunded and unknown statewide. In addition, no Republican has won a U.S. Senate race in Massachusetts since 1972, and Democrats control the governorship, both houses of the state legislature, and the state's entire congressional delegation. The latest poll, however, showed Brown leading Coakley by 7 points, 52 to 45 percent. The American Research Group survey, taken Friday through Sunday, had a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. No polls released in the past few days showed Coakley ahead. In a sign of the high stakes involved, the Coakley campaign held an afternoon news conference Tuesday to complain that voters in three places received ballots already marked for Brown. McNiff confirmed that the secretary of state's offices received two reports of voters saying they got pre-marked ballots. The suspect ballots were invalidated and the voters received new ballots, McNiff said. Kevin Conroy, the Coakley campaign manager, said the disturbing incidents raised questions about the integrity of the election. In response, the Brown campaign issued a statement criticizing Coakley's team. Reports that the Coakley campaign is making reckless accusations regarding the integrity of today's election is a reminder that they are a desperate campaign, Daniel B. Winslow, the counsel for the Brown campaign, said in the statement. Obama has been both surprised and frustrated by the race, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday. Obama and former President Bill Clinton hit the campaign trail over the past three days in an attempt to save Coakley's campaign, which observers say has been hampered by complacency and missteps. Obama crushed Sen. John McCain in Massachusetts in 2008, beating the GOP presidential nominee by 26 points. If you were fired up in the last election, I need you more fired up in this election, Obama urged a crowd at a Coakley campaign rally on Sunday. Vicki Kennedy, the senator's widow, called on state Democrats to turn out to save her husband's legacy. We need your help. We need your support.
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Brown Projected for Upset Win in Massachusetts
Overconfidence that MA wouldn't go red is my guess. Oi. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: They said on the news that Coakley ran a sloppy campaign. In a state that was mostly democrats how could the democrat candidate lose? Obviously she was asleep at the wheel... On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Aw damnwell, I guess this may be a wakeup call for some of the Dems who were still fighting the Prez in stuff like health care. Damn... * http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/19/massachusetts.senate/index.html?hpt=T1 *Boston, Massachusetts (CNN) * -- Republican Scott Brown has won Tuesday's special election for the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by liberal Democrat Ted Kennedy, CNN projects based on actual results. * * Brown, a Massachusetts state senator, had 52 percent of the vote to 47 percent for state Attorney General Martha Coakley, the Democratic contender, with over 69 percent of precincts reporting in results from the National Election Pool, a consortium of media organizations including CNN. Independent candidate Joseph Kennedy, a libertarian who is not related to the Kennedy political family of Massachusetts, had 1 percent. At stake was President Obama's domestic agenda, including health care reform. If Brown upsets Coakley, Republicans will strip Democrats of the 60-seat Senate supermajority needed to overcome GOP filibusters against future Senate action on a broad range of White House priorities. Final numbers on election turnout are expected to be pretty good despite the wintry weather, said Brian McNiff, a spokesman for the office of Massachusetts Secretary of State Bill Galvin. I don't think weather is going to impede too many people from coming out to vote, McNiff said Tuesday. I think the interest in this election will trump any bad weather. Galvin predicted Monday as many 2.2 million of the state's 4.5 million registered voters would vote -- at least double the turnout from December's primary. In one sign of high interest, more than 100,000 absentee ballots were requested ahead of the election, according to McNiff. iReport: Send us your thoughts on the special electionhttp://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories.jspa?topicId=24330 Coakley was initially expected to easily win the race to replace Sen. Ted Kennedy, known as the liberal lion of the Senate who made health care reform the centerpiece of his nearly 47-year Senate career. Kennedy died of brain cancer in August. Until recently, Brown was underfunded and unknown statewide. In addition, no Republican has won a U.S. Senate race in Massachusetts since 1972, and Democrats control the governorship, both houses of the state legislature, and the state's entire congressional delegation. The latest poll, however, showed Brown leading Coakley by 7 points, 52 to 45 percent. The American Research Group survey, taken Friday through Sunday, had a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. No polls released in the past few days showed Coakley ahead. In a sign of the high stakes involved, the Coakley campaign held an afternoon news conference Tuesday to complain that voters in three places received ballots already marked for Brown. McNiff confirmed that the secretary of state's offices received two reports of voters saying they got pre-marked ballots. The suspect ballots were invalidated and the voters received new ballots, McNiff said. Kevin Conroy, the Coakley campaign manager, said the disturbing incidents raised questions about the integrity of the election. In response, the Brown campaign issued a statement criticizing Coakley's team. Reports that the Coakley campaign is making reckless accusations regarding the integrity of today's election is a reminder that they are a desperate campaign, Daniel B. Winslow, the counsel for the Brown campaign, said in the statement. Obama has been both surprised and frustrated by the race, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday. Obama and former President Bill Clinton hit the campaign trail over the past three days in an attempt to save Coakley's campaign, which observers say has been hampered by complacency and missteps. Obama crushed Sen. John McCain in Massachusetts in 2008, beating the GOP presidential nominee by 26 points. If you were fired up in the last election, I need you more fired up in this election, Obama urged a crowd at a Coakley campaign rally on Sunday. Vicki Kennedy, the senator's
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Brown Projected for Upset Win in Massachusetts
Either that or a lot of people didn't go to the voting booth. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: They said that MA is 3/4 democrat. That means there were a LOT of people that flipped. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: Overconfidence that MA wouldn't go red is my guess. Oi. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: They said on the news that Coakley ran a sloppy campaign. In a state that was mostly democrats how could the democrat candidate lose? Obviously she was asleep at the wheel... On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Aw damnwell, I guess this may be a wakeup call for some of the Dems who were still fighting the Prez in stuff like health care. Damn... * http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/19/massachusetts.senate/index.html?hpt=T1 *Boston, Massachusetts (CNN) * -- Republican Scott Brown has won Tuesday's special election for the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by liberal Democrat Ted Kennedy, CNN projects based on actual results. * * Brown, a Massachusetts state senator, had 52 percent of the vote to 47 percent for state Attorney General Martha Coakley, the Democratic contender, with over 69 percent of precincts reporting in results from the National Election Pool, a consortium of media organizations including CNN. Independent candidate Joseph Kennedy, a libertarian who is not related to the Kennedy political family of Massachusetts, had 1 percent. At stake was President Obama's domestic agenda, including health care reform. If Brown upsets Coakley, Republicans will strip Democrats of the 60-seat Senate supermajority needed to overcome GOP filibusters against future Senate action on a broad range of White House priorities. Final numbers on election turnout are expected to be pretty good despite the wintry weather, said Brian McNiff, a spokesman for the office of Massachusetts Secretary of State Bill Galvin. I don't think weather is going to impede too many people from coming out to vote, McNiff said Tuesday. I think the interest in this election will trump any bad weather. Galvin predicted Monday as many 2.2 million of the state's 4.5 million registered voters would vote -- at least double the turnout from December's primary. In one sign of high interest, more than 100,000 absentee ballots were requested ahead of the election, according to McNiff. iReport: Send us your thoughts on the special electionhttp://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories.jspa?topicId=24330 Coakley was initially expected to easily win the race to replace Sen. Ted Kennedy, known as the liberal lion of the Senate who made health care reform the centerpiece of his nearly 47-year Senate career. Kennedy died of brain cancer in August. Until recently, Brown was underfunded and unknown statewide. In addition, no Republican has won a U.S. Senate race in Massachusetts since 1972, and Democrats control the governorship, both houses of the state legislature, and the state's entire congressional delegation. The latest poll, however, showed Brown leading Coakley by 7 points, 52 to 45 percent. The American Research Group survey, taken Friday through Sunday, had a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. No polls released in the past few days showed Coakley ahead. In a sign of the high stakes involved, the Coakley campaign held an afternoon news conference Tuesday to complain that voters in three places received ballots already marked for Brown. McNiff confirmed that the secretary of state's offices received two reports of voters saying they got pre-marked ballots. The suspect ballots were invalidated and the voters received new ballots, McNiff said. Kevin Conroy, the Coakley campaign manager, said the disturbing incidents raised questions about the integrity of the election. In response, the Brown campaign issued a statement criticizing Coakley's team. Reports that the Coakley campaign is making reckless accusations regarding the integrity of today's election is a reminder that they are
