CSThe spark plug protocol

2009-07-06 Thread mukta1

Hi group,

Since a spark plug and engine are not always available and usually  
clumsy to carry with me(!) I reworked a cigarette lighter so that the  
sparking wire goes out and I hold(touch) the metal part(the other  
electrode) of the lighter.


You just put the wire close to the bitten spot and click the lighter  
as many times as you want.


There you have a mobile emergency unit !

Simeon


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Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Ode Coyote



CS doesn't seem to cure Herpes, but it takes very little to suppress it.
People say that if they take a teaspoon a day, they never have an 
outbreak, but if they stop..they might get one after a long while.
People with cold sore problems that use a dab on the spot before it 
emerges, the sore doesn't develop and a sore that already did goes away 
pretty fast..and they don't get another for a much longer time even after 
stopping the CS.

I give a bottle to everyone I see with a cold sore, so far, no exceptions.
 Herpies 2 is a bit harder to spot...no direct experience with it, just 
stories.


So, CS seems to keep it under control with no side effects and very little 
cost...and it doesn't seem to matter if you don't use it every day.


Ode

At 06:17 PM 7/5/2009 -0500, you wrote:
I'm wondering if CS is effective for Herpes II and if so, what would be 
the protocol.


I have a friend that was just diagnosed.  They told him that there is no 
cure, but they have some drugs that can keep it under control.


Carol

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Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread ATOMICSILVER
Hi Carol, just had a great result with a young woman with Herpes in  
Belize ! 3x swigs per day for 3 days and all gone .. but I have a  
feeling she will have to continue swigging for a while to make sure -  
good luck Richard

On 06/07/2009, at 0:17, Kehoe wrote:

I'm wondering if CS is effective for Herpes II and if so, what would  
be the protocol.


I have a friend that was just diagnosed.  They told him that there  
is no cure, but they have some drugs that can keep it under control.


Carol

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Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I have the herpes zoster virus because I had chicken pox as a child.  It has
emerged as shingles a couple of times, but mainly it rears its ugly head as
what I call 'stabbing pains' in the skin surface.  These also are extremely
sensitive to touch (the area where the stabbing pain is)  I get rid of it
(temporarily) by using CS (a lot) and lysine 1000mgs a couple of times per
day.  I am also doing enzyme therapy now (serrapeptase plus digestive) and
have found that I haven't had an outbreak in quite a while now.  This is
good, as I used to get the 'stabbing' pain every few weeks when I stopped
the CS/lysine regimen.  I still use CS every (almost) day though too.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Kehoe
Date: 06/07/2009 00:18:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II
 
I'm wondering if CS is effective for Herpes II and if so, what would be the
protocol.
 
I have a friend that was just diagnosed.  They told him that there is no
cure, but they have some drugs that can keep it under control.
 
Carol
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Re: CSSilver excretion rates

2009-07-06 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
No restrictions, they didn't even tell me that I should take digestive
enzymes such as lipase.  Thank you for the information it is much
appreciated and if you find out anything more I would be glad if you could
let me know.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Norton, Steve
Date: 05/07/2009 19:41:56
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver excretion rates
 
Dee,

The study stated that when bilairy excretion was blocked that excretion in
the urine increased but did not say by how much. I will need to track down
the original study to see what it says.
When you had your gallbladder removed were restrictions placed on your diet?

I meantoned constipation only because there is a relation between the amount
of silver that passes into the bloodstream and the time it takes food to
pass through the digestive system. Constipation would be beneficial except
when in an overload condition. I don't think there is a way to quantify this
 

I think that the study supports the max excretion rate but is weak in its
determination of the amount of ingested silver that actually enters the
bloodstream. It estimates that at 10%. I am hoping to hear if anyone on the
list has better information. 

- Steve Nfaint_grain.jpg

Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Norton, Steve
Dee,

I have been trying to find info on what they specifically do when they remove 
the gallbladder. It hasn't been easy to find info but it appears that they do 
retain the bile connection from the liver to the small intestine. So I am 
incorrect that the removal of the gallbladder affects silver excretion. I am 
very sorry for the scare. 

- Steve



From: Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Mon Jul 06 05:32:48 2009
Subject: Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II 


I have the herpes zoster virus because I had chicken pox as a child.  It has 
emerged as shingles a couple of times, but mainly it rears its ugly head as 
what I call 'stabbing pains' in the skin surface.  These also are extremely 
sensitive to touch (the area where the stabbing pain is)  I get rid of it 
(temporarily) by using CS (a lot) and lysine 1000mgs a couple of times per day. 
 I am also doing enzyme therapy now (serrapeptase plus digestive) and have 
found that I haven't had an outbreak in quite a while now.  This is good, as I 
used to get the 'stabbing' pain every few weeks when I stopped the CS/lysine 
regimen.  I still use CS every (almost) day though too.  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Kehoe mailto:ke...@netwurx.net 
Date: 06/07/2009 00:18:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II
 
I'm wondering if CS is effective for Herpes II and if so, what would be the
protocol.
 
I have a friend that was just diagnosed.  They told him that there is no
cure, but they have some drugs that can keep it under control.
 
Carol
 

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Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Heidrun Beer
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 06:19:29 -0500, Norton, Steve wrote in
6f45775f2ecfd443a4822e6cec3d26fc03a...@xmbtx122.northgrum.com:

Dee,

I have been trying to find info on what they specifically do when they 
remove the gallbladder. It hasn't been easy to find info but it appears 
that they do retain the bile connection from the liver to the small 
intestine. So I am incorrect that the removal of the gallbladder affects 
silver excretion. I am very sorry for the scare. 

- Steve


Just a note: without bile the stool turns a greenish grey (seen in some 
cases of hepatitis, or when a gallstone or tumor blocks the connection).
Very soon after this, the face and eyeballs turn yellow.

As long as you have brown stool and white eyeballs, nothing blocks
the flow of bile to the small intestine.




Heidrun Beer

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RE: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I very rarely eat chocolate and nuts Thora.  Not really a chocolate fan and
nuts are too hard on the teeth!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Thora Rasmussen
Date: 06/07/2009 13:20:16
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II
 
Another thing that works well is to stop eating chocolate and nuts.  Works 
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RE: CSVit. D 3 'hype'

2009-07-06 Thread Thora Rasmussen
There was an article recently on Rense (I think) where someone had done some
research on a ton of products that used the term natural, and they found
that 98% were either flat out fraud or deceptive, so relying on that term is
not going to do much good.  I knew the term didn't mean much, and I never
put any faith in it, but I was surprised at how bad it is.  That shows me
that 98% of the companies out there using that term are not ethical, and do
not care about their customes.  Scary.
 
Thora

  _  

From: Dee Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 11:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D 3 'hype'



You know that, and I know that, Indi, but many people out there haven't a
clue!  The amount of people I have met who have no idea what is in
'products' as they are now called.  Especially the ones termed 'natural' or
organic.  Even products designed for babies have it in.  Probably why so
many children suffer from eczema and asthma I suppose.  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Indi mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com 
Date: 07/05/09 18:54:23
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D 3 'hype'
 
Anyway, it's not that hard to use soaps without SLS.
Bronner's soap is the best, IMO.
 
--
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RE: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Thora Rasmussen
Another thing that works well is to stop eating chocolate and nuts.  Works
amazing.

  _  

From: Dee Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II



I have the herpes zoster virus because I had chicken pox as a child.  It has
emerged as shingles a couple of times, but mainly it rears its ugly head as
what I call 'stabbing pains' in the skin surface.  These also are extremely
sensitive to touch (the area where the stabbing pain is)  I get rid of it
(temporarily) by using CS (a lot) and lysine 1000mgs a couple of times per
day.  I am also doing enzyme therapy now (serrapeptase plus digestive) and
have found that I haven't had an outbreak in quite a while now.  This is
good, as I used to get the 'stabbing' pain every few weeks when I stopped
the CS/lysine regimen.  I still use CS every (almost) day though too.  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Kehoe mailto:ke...@netwurx.net 
Date: 06/07/2009 00:18:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II
 
I'm wondering if CS is effective for Herpes II and if so, what would be the
protocol.
 
I have a friend that was just diagnosed.  They told him that there is no
cure, but they have some drugs that can keep it under control.
 
Carol
 



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RE: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Gaiacita
My brother was just here and was talking about his last visit to his doctor.
 My brother is 58 years old and his doctor said you should get the vaccine
against shingles.  Everyone over 50 should get this as this is when shingles
usually shows up.  When my brother told him he didn't want the shot the
doctor told him but you've had chicken pox and therefore you have the virus
  My brother told him he never had chicken pox and he refused the vaccine.  

I was appalled that they have a vaccine for this and are trying to push it
onto people.  Yes, shingles can be very painful, but there are natural ways
to control it.  They usually come out only when a person is stressed in some
way.  My father use to get them but he applied vit. E and they would dry up
and leave in 3 or 4 days.  

Being a virus I would think there would be better ways to kill it--as in the
electricity, or perhaps even taking MMS to kill the virus itself.  

I certainly wouldn't get a vaccine!

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 

I have the herpes zoster virus because I had chicken pox as a child.  It has
emerged as shingles a couple of times, but mainly it rears its ugly head as
what I call 'stabbing pains' in the skin surface.  These also are extremely
sensitive to touch (the area where the stabbing pain is)  I get rid of it
(temporarily) by using CS (a lot) and lysine 1000mgs a couple of times per
day.  I am also doing enzyme therapy now (serrapeptase plus digestive) and
have found that I haven't had an outbreak in quite a while now.  This is
good, as I used to get the 'stabbing' pain every few weeks when I stopped
the CS/lysine regimen.  I still use CS every (almost) day though too.  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Kehoe
Date: 06/07/2009 00:18:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II
 
I'm wondering if CS is effective for Herpes II and if so, what would be the
protocol.
 
I have a friend that was just diagnosed.  They told him that there is no
cure, but they have some drugs that can keep it under control.
 
Carol
 



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Re: CSThe spark plug protocol

2009-07-06 Thread Peter Converse

Indi,

You've got more nerve than a sore tooth! You rock!

Peter


- Original Message - 
From: Indi indi.sha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:59 PM
Subject: CSThe spark plug protocol



Ok, so I finally convinced a friend that she wasn't assisting me in
committing suicide by cranking the tractor while I held the spark plug
wire to the bite on my left thigh. Taking Malcolm's advice, I took my
left shoe off and stood on the ground (which is wet, because it rained
earlier). The spark wouldn't quite get me that way, so I took some copper
bell wire and bent it so it was wedged in the electrode and wrapped the 
rest
around my thigh. My friend cranked the tractor, and I got zapped. It 
didn't

really hurt much. The burning sensation in the bite area was noticeably
reduced within a minute. It's been less than 10 minutes since I did this,
hopefully now it will heal faster than it has been...

Cheers,
--
indi


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Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
I don;t think there is much difference between I and II.  I found it 
works 100% on herpes I, and after taking it for a few years, seem to 
have cured it completely.


Marshall

Kehoe wrote:
I'm wondering if CS is effective for Herpes II and if so, what would 
be the protocol.


I have a friend that was just diagnosed.  They told him that there is 
no cure, but they have some drugs that can keep it under control.


Carol

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CSNatural Soap

2009-07-06 Thread sms
Now this is a great natural soap. Take a look around the site and click on
the various other links.  I think you might like these products. 

http://www.kirksnatural.com/barsoap.html
Sasha

---Original Message---
 
From: Annie B Smythe
Date: 7/5/2009 10:26:13 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D 3 'hype'
 
Sodium Laurel Sulfate, hmmm, I know it can penetrate the scalp if it's in a
shampoo, and it can effect vision. But of all the things I've read about it,
I've never read about it effecting Vit D manufactured in the skin. Not that
that is impossible, if it penetrates the skin and combines with other things
somehow..But I haven't done enough reading on it to say one way or the other
 But Malcom's explanation sounds reasonable. ; If I do some digging and
find out something different I'll eat some crow I reckon, LOL.
 
Annie
 
 

Re: CSNatural Soap

2009-07-06 Thread Indi
I've used that soap in the past, but this one 
item in their online FAQ made me uneasy:

What kind of fragrance do you use in your soap? 

Kirk's fragrance is a special blend of mostly natural and some synthetic
materials. Synthetic materials have been tested for product safety by
manufacturer and approved by FDA.*

*From http://www.kirksnatural.com/faqs.html

-- 
indi




On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 07:52:22AM -0700, sms wrote:
Now this is a great natural soap. Take a look around the site and click on
the various other links.  I think you might like these products.
 
[1]http://www.kirksnatural.com/barsoap.html
Sasha
 
---Original Message---
 
From: [2]Annie B Smythe
Date: 7/5/2009 10:26:13 AM
To: [3]silver-l...@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D 3 'hype'
 
Sodium Laurel Sulfate, hmmm, I know it can penetrate the scalp if it's in
a shampoo, and it can effect vision. But of all the things I've read about
it, I've never read about it effecting Vit D manufactured in the skin. Not
that that is impossible, if it penetrates the skin and combines with other
things somehow..But I haven't done enough reading on it to say one way or
the other. But Malcom's explanation sounds reasonable. ; If I do some
digging and find out something different I'll eat some crow I reckon, LOL.
 
Annie


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Re: CSThe spark plug protocol

2009-07-06 Thread lampley lane
Ok, I just came in and read this first post...I'm starting to  wonder about you 
ppl hahahahaha. I think the zapper sounds good, but I've seen things go really 
bad electronicaly, working in a stereo, tv, vcr, repair lab yrs ago. And with 
tractors, cars, my harley etc... working on them, seen electricity do things it 
wasn't supposed to do, so be carefull lol! Blessings, Little Bird..K now I 
better catch up here on these posts. I love this place!


-Original Message-
From: Peter Converse
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 9:26 AM
To: Indi, silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe spark plug protocol

Indi,

You've got more nerve than a sore tooth! You rock!

Peter


- Original Message - 
From: Indi indi.sha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:59 PM
Subject: CSThe spark plug protocol


 Ok, so I finally convinced a friend that she wasn't assisting me in
 committing suicide by cranking the tractor while I held the spark plug
 wire to the bite on my left thigh. Taking Malcolm's advice, I took my
 left shoe off and stood on the ground (which is wet, because it rained
 earlier). The spark wouldn't quite get me that way, so I took some copper
 bell wire and bent it so it was wedged in the electrode and wrapped the 
 rest
 around my thigh. My friend cranked the tractor, and I got zapped. It 
 didn't
 really hurt much. The burning sensation in the bite area was noticeably
 reduced within a minute. It's been less than 10 minutes since I did this,
 hopefully now it will heal faster than it has been...

 Cheers,
 -- 
 indi


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CSWelcome Gary

2009-07-06 Thread Norton, Steve
Welcome Gary. 
Do you have a question regarding HVCS or LVCS? It isn't clear from your
message.
 - Steve N



From: Gary Stuart [mailto:bioboy...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:16 AM
To: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com; silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com;
silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSsubscribe


 
Greetings,
 
Please accept my request to join your progressive forum. i currently
produce small quantities of HVCS at home for family use, but am now
confused about recent information i have learned regarding HVCS. whether
or not this info, from a website selling LVCS, is true or not remains a
debate, but the seeds of doubt have been sown!
 
thanks for your consideration.
 
peace, Gary




CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread A. Reid Harvey

Hi!

 

As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious 
to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me know?  Or what 
other alternatives may be available?

 

Many thanks.

Reid

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Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Clayton Family

Hello Reid,

I thought maybe you had found some info on this already, so I waited to 
respond.


The candida diagnosis is not a simple thing in some ways- candida can 
be a fungal infection ( yeast is related to fungus) and so anti-fungal 
protocols are usually good for this. There are extensive protocols on 
the web for that, and it can include completely changing your diet ( it 
loves sugar and simple carbs), taking some type of antifungal (rx or 
herbal), and detoxing both the body and the bowel (there are toxins 
released when it dies, just like any fungus, and they are re-absorbed 
in the colon, so getting it out is a good idea, as one feels much 
better faster that way).


I do take CS to help with my fungal issues, but a more multi faceted 
approach is necessary.


Best Wishes,   Kathryn

On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:36 AM, A. Reid Harvey wrote:


 Hi!
  
 As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in her family, and 
is anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let 
me know?  Or what other alternatives may be available?

  
 Many thanks.
 Reid



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RE: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Norton, Steve
Reid,
In addition to CS, I would use  bentonite clay and coconut oil daily for
several weeks. I prefer a non-swelling calcium bentonite clay. For
coconut oil you may find it easier to get coconut milk or cream. Coconut
milk is 1/3 coconut oil and coconut cream is 2/3 coconut oil if I
remember correctly.
  - Steve N



From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida - again


Hi!
 
As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is
anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me
know?  Or what other alternatives may be available?
 
Many thanks.
Reid



Re: CSSilver hydroxide?

2009-07-06 Thread Dan Nave
This article shows the theoretical soluability of silver hydroxide at
a pH of 9 as 100mg/l which would be 100ppm.  See page 8:

http://www.mtes.org/documents/pmg_metal_precip_man1.pdf

Dan

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Marshall Dudleymdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
 Silver hydroxide has a solubility of approximately 13 ppm.  It converts back
 and forth with silver oxide, which also has a 13 ppm solubility. Thus a
 silver hydroxide/oxide solution of silver has a maximum concentration of
 approximately 26 ppm.  It is, BTW, the ionic portion of EIS.

 Marshall

 Rachel Smithies wrote:

  Hello All,
 I am curently looking at ionic silver products for medicinal purposes. I
 have found a brand which is 100ppm Ionic Silver by Metabolics. Their website
 says that:

 10 drops contain:
 Silver
 (as Silver Hydroxide).;9mcg;+;+

 http://www.metabolics.com/store/natural+healthcare/product/ionsi0100t/

 I have never seen ionic silver described as silver hydroxide before; is
 this true soluble ionic silver or actually a silver particle colloid ?
  I have looked up silver hydroxide on the net but I'm not a chemist and I
 can't figure out what exactly silver hydroxide is. Can anyone shed sny light
 on this? Many thanks.
  Kind Regards
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RE: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I doubt very much that a vaccine would work with shingles, as I don't
personally think they work with anything much.  My dog was vaccinated
against Parvo and got it and my daughter and her whole company were
vaccinated against 'flu and they all came down with some dreadful virus. 
Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Gaiacita
Date: 06/07/2009 15:03:21
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II
 
My brother was just here and was talking about his last visit to his doctor.
 My brother is 58 years old and his doctor said you should get the vaccine
against shingles.  Everyone over 50 should get this as this is when shingles
usually shows up.  When my brother told him he didn't want the shot the
doctor told him but you've had chicken pox and therefore you have the virus
  My brother told him he never had chicken pox and he refused the vaccine.  
 faint_grain.jpg

Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I don't think that CS would help candida Reid, except for maybe keeping
other bacteria and viruses down so the body can help itself better.  I'm not
sure on this though, so maybe someone more knowledgeable can help.  I do
believe candida is a very tough customer to get rid of.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: A. Reid Harvey
Date: 06/07/2009 17:37:03
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida - again
 
Hi!
 
As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is
anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me know?
 Or what other alternatives may be available?
 
Many thanks.
Reid



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RE: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Gaiacita
Right!  All vaccines are dangerous.  I was pretty appalled when my brother
told me they are now pushing yet another vaccine--this one for shingles.  

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
I doubt very much that a vaccine would work with shingles, as I don't
personally think they work with anything much.  My dog was vaccinated
against Parvo and got it and my daughter and her whole company were
vaccinated against 'flu and they all came down with some dreadful virus. 
Dee 
 faint_grain.jpg

Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Clayton Family
The clay can help adsorb the toxins in the gut, as can activated 
charcoal. Many with fungal issues do not tolerate clays.


The coconut oil has natural antifungal qualitites, as does oil of 
oregano (oreganol brand) and I have heard olive leaf also.


With all of these, trying them out at small doses is important to see 
how one's body will react. When I started the antifungal, I really felt 
like I was going to die, the die off from the fungal infection was so 
bad. At the time I did not know the importance of using charcoal for 
binding the toxins, and keeping the colon moving to physically remove 
them ASAP. Some use enemas, others use Epsom salts to move it.



Also sweating can help with that, but again removing the sweat 
immediately is important, as the toxins sweated out will go right back 
in again.


Kathryn

On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Norton, Steve wrote:


Reid,
In addition to CS, I would use  bentonite clay and coconut oil daily 
for several weeks. I prefer a non-swelling calcium bentonite clay. For 
coconut oil you may find it easier to get coconut milk or cream. 
Coconut milk is 1/3 coconut oil and coconut cream is 2/3 coconut oil 
if I remember correctly.

  - Steve N

From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida - again

Hi!
 
As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and 
is anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let 
me know?  Or what other alternatives may be available?

 
Many thanks.
Reid



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Re: CSNatural Soap and

2009-07-06 Thread Malcolm
OMG! Brainwashing at home!

On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 07:52 -0700, sms wrote:
 Now this is a great natural soap. Take a look around the site and
 click on the various other links.  I think you might like these
 products. 
  
 http://www.kirksnatural.com/barsoap.html
 Sasha
  
 ---Original Message---
  
 From: Annie B Smythe
 Date: 7/5/2009 10:26:13 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSVit. D 3 'hype'
  
 Sodium Laurel Sulfate, hmmm, I know it can penetrate the scalp if it's
 in a shampoo, and it can effect vision. But of all the things I've
 read about it, I've never read about it effecting Vit D manufactured
 in the skin. Not that that is impossible, if it penetrates the skin
 and combines with other things somehow..But I haven't done enough
 reading on it to say one way or the other. But Malcom's explanation
 sounds reasonable. ; If I do some digging and find out something
 different I'll eat some crow I reckon, LOL.
  
 Annie
  
  
 
 


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Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Clayton Family
it is the same vac as the chicken pox vac. They have  been working on 
that one for decades. It is bad news when the pharmaceutical companies 
are writing text books and educating our doctors.


Like with everything, there is a risk/benefit ratio in play with 
vaccines. IE: my grandmother's cousin died from lockjaw as a child- 
tetanus- a truly horrible death that used to happen with some 
frequency. I remember them talking about it with very quiet voices; 
then admonishing me to be grateful that I was not at risk for such a 
thing because the heroic doctors of the era had invented vaccines 
against it.


Now it is different, the vacs are made differently, much more complex, 
and the sheer number Big Pharma pushes is beyond belief. It is as if 
they are suffering from a disconnect with the rational side of 
medicine. Of course this gets into the politics of it all, which has 
nothing to do with medicine, health or the good of the country as a 
whole.


Kathryn

On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Gaiacita wrote:

Right!  All vaccines are dangerous.  I was pretty appalled when my 
brother told me they are now pushing yet another vaccine--this one for 
shingles. 

 
Samala,
Renee
 
---Original Message---
I doubt very much that a vaccine would work with shingles, as I don't 
personally think they work with anything much.  My dog was vaccinated 
against Parvo and got it and my daughter and her whole company were 
vaccinated against 'flu and they all came down with some dreadful 
virus.  Dee

 
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Re: CSSilver hydroxide?

2009-07-06 Thread Marshall Dudley

Dan Nave wrote:

This article shows the theoretical soluability of silver hydroxide at
a pH of 9 as 100mg/l which would be 100ppm.  See page 8:

http://www.mtes.org/documents/pmg_metal_precip_man1.pdf
  
That is why he calls it theoretical.  His theory is incomplete. He 
ignores the fact that silver hydroxide continually converts to silver 
oxide, and silver oxide converts back to silver hydroxide, so there are 
approximately equal parts of each.  Silver oxide has a solubility of 13 
ppm in cold water CRC Handbook of chemistry and physics 52nd edition.  
Thus if you have more than 13 ppm of silver hydroxide, it will attempt 
to produce over 13 ppm of silver oxide, the excess of which precipittes 
out. The result is that long term solubility is a practical 13 ppm of 
both silver hydroxide and silver oxide.


Marshall

Dan

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Marshall Dudleymdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
  

Silver hydroxide has a solubility of approximately 13 ppm.  It converts back
and forth with silver oxide, which also has a 13 ppm solubility. Thus a
silver hydroxide/oxide solution of silver has a maximum concentration of
approximately 26 ppm.  It is, BTW, the ionic portion of EIS.

Marshall

Rachel Smithies wrote:


 Hello All,
I am curently looking at ionic silver products for medicinal purposes. I
have found a brand which is 100ppm Ionic Silver by Metabolics. Their website
says that:

10 drops contain:
Silver
(as Silver Hydroxide).;9mcg;+;+

http://www.metabolics.com/store/natural+healthcare/product/ionsi0100t/

I have never seen ionic silver described as silver hydroxide before; is
this true soluble ionic silver or actually a silver particle colloid ?
 I have looked up silver hydroxide on the net but I'm not a chemist and I
can't figure out what exactly silver hydroxide is. Can anyone shed sny light
on this? Many thanks.
 Kind Regards
Rachel


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CS(LL) Large cavity in a molar.

2009-07-06 Thread ZZekelink
I just lost a crown on a back tooth and  have found there is a large 
cavity. There is no infection. I was wondering if I  put a tiny piece of silver 
off the end of one of my electrodes into the cavity  would it keep it from 
getting infected until I can get a dental app. ??? I know  the pioneers put the 
silver coins in their water containers to keep them  drinkable  in their 
milk to keep it from spoiling.  This may sound  crazy but I am curious  
maybe a bit on the drain bamaged side  :-)...Lois
   Also does anyone know of  anything to use to fill a tooth cavity ??? JB 
Weld, epoxy,     { I know super glue works to hold a  crown on a 
tooth .}  
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Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
A few years ago I got cut by a rusty piece of metal and researched 
whether to get a tetanus shot or not.  I found that the probably of 
dieing from the vaccination was something like 10 times as great as 
dieing from tetanus, so along with knowing that CS would kill tetanus in 
a heartbeat, I told the doctor, thanks, but no thanks.


Marshall

Clayton Family wrote:
it is the same vac as the chicken pox vac. They have  been working on 
that one for decades. It is bad news when the pharmaceutical companies 
are writing text books and educating our doctors.


Like with everything, there is a risk/benefit ratio in play with 
vaccines. IE: my grandmother's cousin died from lockjaw as a child- 
tetanus- a truly horrible death that used to happen with some 
frequency. I remember them talking about it with very quiet voices; 
then admonishing me to be grateful that I was not at risk for such a 
thing because the heroic doctors of the era had invented vaccines 
against it.


Now it is different, the vacs are made differently, much more complex, 
and the sheer number Big Pharma pushes is beyond belief. It is as if 
they are suffering from a disconnect with the rational side of 
medicine. Of course this gets into the politics of it all, which has 
nothing to do with medicine, health or the good of the country as a 
whole.


Kathryn

On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Gaiacita wrote:

Right!  All vaccines are dangerous.  I was pretty appalled when my 
brother told me they are now pushing yet another vaccine--this one 
for shingles. 
 
Samala,

Renee
 
---Original Message---
I doubt very much that a vaccine would work with shingles, as I don't 
personally think they work with anything much.  My dog was vaccinated 
against Parvo and got it and my daughter and her whole company were 
vaccinated against 'flu and they all came down with some dreadful 
virus.  Dee
 








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RE: CS(LL) Large cavity in a molar.

2009-07-06 Thread Norton, Steve
Here are some ideas for a temporary filling:
http://www.ehow.com/how_9596_temporarily-replace-tooth.html. It used to
be that you could get zinc oxide power and oil of cloves at the
drugstore but I don't know if you still can.
 - Steve N



From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS(LL) Large cavity in a molar.


I just lost a crown on a back tooth and have found there is a large
cavity. There is no infection. I was wondering if I put a tiny piece of
silver off the end of one of my electrodes into the cavity would it keep
it from getting infected until I can get a dental app. ??? I know the
pioneers put the silver coins in their water containers to keep them
drinkable  in their milk to keep it from spoiling.  This may sound
crazy but I am curious  maybe a bit on the drain bamaged side
:-)...Lois
   Also does anyone know of anything to use to fill a tooth cavity ???
JB Weld, epoxy,    { I know super glue works to hold a crown on
a tooth .}  

 


Re: CSIs CS effective for Herpes II

2009-07-06 Thread Clayton Family
yep. Tetanus does not seem as prevalent nowadays. I got bit by a dog on 
the hand, sort of drove (my boys shifted the gears for me, clever lads 
that they are) to the emergency to have it sewn up, and to my great 
surprise, they jabbed me with a dpt, and refused to sew it up. If I had 
known, I would not have gone, saved myself a bundle of money and not 
gotten sick for 4 days from the dpt. I had had a tetanus shot 5 years 
earlier to travel out of the country, so I did not even need one from 
the medical standpoint. Nevertheless, their precious protocol required 
them to do it- despite not having any good evidence for the practice. 
Being in a tizzy at the time, I was slow to react, and did not escape 
the shot that time.


They used to say that the tetanus germ was ubiquitous. I have heard 
that for ages.


My mom stepped on a rusty nail as a girl, and she had to sit with her 
foot in a pail of kerosene for the rest of the day. It seemed to have 
worked, for she did not get the dreaded disease.


Cs is a wonderful remedy to have with us. Does not smell nearly as bad 
as kerosene!


lol

kathryn


On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

A few years ago I got cut by a rusty piece of metal and researched 
whether to get a tetanus shot or not.  I found that the probably of 
dieing from the vaccination was something like 10 times as great as 
dieing from tetanus, so along with knowing that CS would kill tetanus 
in a heartbeat, I told the doctor, thanks, but no thanks.


Marshall

Clayton Family wrote:
it is the same vac as the chicken pox vac. They have  been working on 
that one for decades. It is bad news when the pharmaceutical 
companies are writing text books and educating our doctors.


Like with everything, there is a risk/benefit ratio in play with 
vaccines. IE: my grandmother's cousin died from lockjaw as a child- 
tetanus- a truly horrible death that used to happen with some 
frequency. I remember them talking about it with very quiet voices; 
then admonishing me to be grateful that I was not at risk for such a 
thing because the heroic doctors of the era had invented vaccines 
against it.


Now it is different, the vacs are made differently, much more 
complex, and the sheer number Big Pharma pushes is beyond belief. It 
is as if they are suffering from a disconnect with the rational side 
of medicine. Of course this gets into the politics of it all, which 
has nothing to do with medicine, health or the good of the country as 
a whole.


Kathryn

On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Gaiacita wrote:

Right!  All vaccines are dangerous.  I was pretty appalled when my 
brother told me they are now pushing yet another vaccine--this one 
for shingles.  Samala,

Renee
 ---Original Message---
I doubt very much that a vaccine would work with shingles, as I 
don't personally think they work with anything much.  My dog was 
vaccinated against Parvo and got it and my daughter and her whole 
company were vaccinated against 'flu and they all came down with 
some dreadful virus.  Dee





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Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Harold MacDonald
Does pertain to Candida,besides other important problems.
Harold

Feeding mice butyric acid improved their ability to burn fat on a high fat 
diet. The butyric acid improved their muscle function, health of brown adipose 
tissue, and various gene signals involved with fatty acid metabolism. Butyric 
acid also prevented insulin resistance from happening in these over-fed mice. 

This study was published in Diabetes, the journal of the American Diabetes 
Association. It is both humorous and informative. Humorous because there is no 
mention of the primary food in the American diet that contains butyric acid, 
i.e., butter. Informative because it lends more information to an ever-growing 
body of information that is telling us that your gut is intimately associated 
with your metabolism. 

Butyric acid is made in large amounts in your lower colon when friendly flora 
(acidophilus) ferment fiber and produce it. Butyric acid is the primary fatty 
acid required for repair of your digestive lining, prevention of cells turning 
cancerous in your colon, and now – as a metabolic booster for the improved 
metabolism of fat around your body. 

If you colon gets out of balance with too many hostile bacteria or Candida, 
then your production of butyric acid declines as toxic byproducts increase. 
This not only slows your metabolism but increases your colon to risks for other 
problems, including irritable bowel. 

Part of health, and part of healthy metabolism, is having your gut in really 
good working condition. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: A. Reid Harvey 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:36 AM
  Subject: CScandida - again


  Hi!
   
  As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is 
anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me know?  
Or what other alternatives may be available?
   
  Many thanks.
  Reid


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[RE]CSperiodontal (gum) disease

2009-07-06 Thread Brooks Bradley
Dear Ken, 
There are a number of protocols which have demonstrated quite powerful effect against periodontal disease...sodium perborate (liberated H202 is the actual effective agent) was used, quite effectively---as long ago as 1930s.  There are numerous, simple, protocols leveraging off of H2O2...which have proved most effective for addressing most all of the anaerobic forms causing this distressing challenge.  One quite simple protocol which we employed, repeatedly, among a sizable volunteer group during the early 1990s included:  1. gently brushing the teeth
with a SOFT BRISTLE toothbrush for about 15 seconds (light bleeding is quite common and proved to be quite harmless). 2.  Rinsing the mouth with clean tap or distilled water.  3.  Using a mixture of 3.5% H202 (common drugstore variety) at
90% volume with DMSO (full strength) at 10% volume of the complete mixture-swish about one tablespoon in the mouth for approximately 30 secondsor until the amount of foam-forming is so great as to require expectorationand spit the entire solution out.  4.  Rised mouth with clear water for about 5 seconds and REPEATED protocol segment Number 3., except DID N0T rinse the mouth with water or other liquid for 5 minutes after this last step.
Repeated three times daily (after meals, was preferable), this simple protocol successfully eliminated over 90% of ALL of the periodontal insults of a bacterial originwithin 7 to 9 days.
  Step 5.  From calendar year 1995 onward, the introduction of 10 to 15 ppm colloidal silver ( 95% by volume) and DMSO  full strength (5% by volume) as a final rinse (about 15 seconds), shortened the recovery to an average of 5 days.
   Our collective opinion is that it is ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL to purposely keep the knowledge of such simple, powerful and ECONOMICAL protocols from the general population.  
 Do remember all of my stated protocols are EXPERIMENTAL in nature and designed to be used by OTHER EXPERIMENTAL medical researchers and DO NOT constitute ANY form of 
medical practice---OR ADVICE.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley


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 Date : Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:16:44 -0700 (PDT)
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 To : silver-list@eskimo.com

Anyone have experience reversing gum disease using CS in some way, or anything else?

I just called a local dentist who uses one of the latest laser techniques to eliminate the problem (as opposed to surgery), but it costs $5000.

-Ken Bagwell


  


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CSFoot Bath

2009-07-06 Thread Brickeyk
Ruth, this is the mix for the foot baths I have used for 3 3/4  months.
Gallon of CS
16 teaspoons of Baking Soda
1 to 2 ounces DMSO
 
I heat the mixture and soak both feet in a plastic double shoe box size tub 
 for 20 to 60 minutes. Then I strain the mix back into the gallon container 
and  add CS to make up for the lost mix. Keep using the same mix till it 
gets too  cruddy. I use the old mix to spray on my trees and plants.
 
I started with 6 thick toe nails, now all are regular size but still  
slightly yellow tinted. I noticed like the fungus went up my feet nearly to the 
 
ankles.
 
I dry my toe nails with a hair dryer and then wear part wool socks. It  
looks like I need to keep this up past the 4 months time that Duncan Crow said  
it takes to fix. I missed soaking my feet about 2 weeks so Duncan is 
probably  right on.
 
Marshall, the local Bee Keepers club said that there is no CCD  reported 
here in Kitsap county. They did not know why our bees have so far  escaped CCD.
 
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Re: CS(LL) Large cavity in a molar.

2009-07-06 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Emergency filling material is available from camping supply shops I 
think.  Try REI.   It's a handy thing to have when traveling also.




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  Also does anyone know of anything to use to fill a tooth cavity ??? 
JB Weld, epoxy,    { I know super glue works to hold a crown 
on a tooth .} 



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Re: [RE]CSperiodontal (gum) disease

2009-07-06 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Dear Bradley Sensei,

I wonder whether ozonated water, as from the SOTA WOZ device, might 
possibly substitute  for H202.  I have no experience of ozonated water, 
and wonder whether you have any ideas about this.   I have read that 
ozonated water tastes like H202;  does it react with pathogens in the 
same way?


I have another speculative notion, which I'll pose as a question:  
Could persons unable or unwilling to set up the Harbor Freight 
oxygen/EIS nebulizing device ( as you described in great detail long 
ago)  possibly do the following instead?


1)	Make EIS,  using methods well known to members on this list, using a 
home generator.


2)	Saturate the EIS solution with ozone using a device such as that 
sold by SOTA.


3)	Nebulize the ozonated EIS using a common portable nebulizer such as 
the Omron device.


Again, this is pure speculation, and it's obvious to anyone with half a 
brain that unstable oxygen in liquid could not possibly perform 
identically to gaseous oxygen as a carrier of EIS.


Nevertheless, this protocol might be MUCH more practical for many 
experimenters, and if it worked even moderately well, could save lives 
in event of serious lung insults.


Your comments would be most welcome.




On Tuesday, Jul 7, 2009, at 09:15 Asia/Tokyo, Brooks Bradley wrote:


Dear Ken,
There are a number of protocols which have demonstrated quite powerful 
effect against periodontal disease...sodium perborate (liberated H202 
is the actual effective agent) was used, quite effectively---as long 
ago as 1930s. There are numerous, simple, protocols leveraging off of 
H2O2...which have proved most effective for addressing most all of the 
anaerobic forms causing this distressing challenge. One quite simple 
protocol which we employed, repeatedly, among a sizable volunteer 
group during the early 1990s included: 1. gently brushing the teeth
with a SOFT BRISTLE toothbrush for about 15 seconds (light bleeding is 
quite common and proved to be quite harmless). 2. Rinsing the mouth 
with clean tap or distilled water. 3. Using a mixture of 3.5% H202 
(common drugstore variety) at
90% volume with DMSO (full strength) at 10% volume of the complete 
mixture-swish about one tablespoon in the mouth for approximately 
30 secondsor until the amount of foam-forming is so great as to 
require expectorationand spit the entire solution out. 4. Rised 
mouth with clear water for about 5 seconds and REPEATED protocol 
segment Number 3., except DID N0T rinse the mouth with water or other 
liquid for 5 minutes after this last step.
Repeated three times daily (after meals, was preferable), this simple 
protocol successfully eliminated over 90% of ALL of the periodontal 
insults of a bacterial originwithin 7 to 9 days.
Step 5. From calendar year 1995 onward, the introduction of 10 to 15 
ppm colloidal silver ( 95% by volume) and DMSO full strength (5% by 
volume) as a final rinse (about 15 seconds), shortened the recovery to 
an average of 5 days.
Our collective opinion is that it is ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL to purposely 
keep the knowledge of such simple, powerful and ECONOMICAL protocols 
from the general population.
Do remember all of my stated protocols are EXPERIMENTAL in nature and 
designed to be used by OTHER EXPERIMENTAL medical researchers and DO 
NOT constitute ANY form of

medical practice---OR ADVICE.
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley







-[ Received Mail Content ]--

Subject : CSperiodontal (gum) disease

Date : Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:16:44 -0700 (PDT)

From : Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com

To : silver-list@eskimo.com



Anyone have experience reversing gum disease using CS in some way, or 
anything else?




I just called a local dentist who uses one of the latest laser 
techniques to eliminate the problem (as opposed to surgery), but it 
costs $5000.




-Ken Bagwell





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CSSkin tags?

2009-07-06 Thread Gayla Roberts
Is it on this list I read about getting rid of skin tag warts?
Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
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