Re: CSBulk Gelatin

2010-01-09 Thread Annie B Smythe

Ohy, thank you:)

Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

Tad Winiecki wrote:

Azure Standard has beef gelatin

BP114 5 lbs.: $30.60
BP115 1 lb.: $7.25

They have truck routes up and down the west coast but will ship too.

http://www.azurestandard.com/product.php?id=BP114

Nancy

Annie B Smythe wrote:
OK, I haven't had time to look around more, but I found a 5 lb 
container of Gelatin with no fillers or additives for 34.00 and 
change. I have no idea what the shipping is.


I have not had a chance to check out the grocery store prices on plain 
Gelatin. But Amazon has 1 lb container of Knox Gelatin for 13.00 and 
odd change, but the blasted shipping is sky high. 9.00 and change


So here's the link:)

http://www.bulkfoods.com/gelatin.htm




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Re: CSGatorade and colloidal silver

2010-01-09 Thread Ode Coyote



  Now THERE'S a light bulb moment.
Good going, Marshall !

Ode


At 11:33 AM 1/8/2010 -0500, you wrote:
Brooks has reported some years ago that mixing Gatorade with colloidal 
silver increases the colloidal silver absorption tremendously. An analysis 
by myself had attributed this to the fact that the additional chloride 
ions created complexes of silver chloride that were more soluble than 
silver chloride. Ode attributed it to the fact that liquids matching the 
blood electrolyte content are more quickly absorbed into the blood 
stream.  Both of these theories are elaborated at 
http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator


Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have 
discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this 
increased absorption.   I just became aware that the citrate ion ( 
gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic 
salts.  This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do 
not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric 
acid.  Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are 
formed, and they do not form in the stomach either.

The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream.

Marshall


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Re: CSWhere to find pure sodium bicarbonate

2010-01-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Would it have been a Mercola article because I seem to remember this also - and 
being surprised too.  dee

On 8 Jan 2010, at 23:13, sol wrote:

 At 02:11 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote:
 Sol:
 
 I'd be interested in where you read that Vision Ware leeches lead if you can 
 recall.  Hmmmnnn.  i had always thought it was one of the best.
 
 Yes, I've heard it is one of the best also. I cannot substantiate my memory 
 re lead and visionware, could not begin to remember where I read it. It is 
 also always possible my memory is faulty, and the lead leaching may  have 
 pertained to other types of cookware, possibly porcelain-enamel coated cast 
 iron?
 Sorry for any confusion.
 sol
 
 


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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
The thing is, if you take chlorella or kelp, you get the whole spectrum of vits 
and minerals in a balanced food form, which is the best way.  To take separate 
minerals is a very dicey thing to do because to unbalance them will bring more 
problems than a deficiency.  Also the form of mineral is really important too 
as for instance, magnesium oxide is more difficult to 'use' than the magnesium 
citrate form.  It is better for the body to take things in a food form.  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 01:30, Annie B Smythe wrote:

 Horse Chestnut, and Bilberry will help strengthen the capillaries, veins and 
 arteries, everywhere in the body. Horse Chestnut can help prevent; 
 hemorrhoids, spider veins, and varicose veins, as well. And tell her to get 
 her doctor to check her zinc levels, low zinc can cause more fragile blood 
 vessels. The great majority of people who have died from aneurysms have been 
 found to be low on zinc. Be aware though, that if you supplement zinc, you 
 may have to supplement copper and magnesium as well to keep them balanced.
 
 I take Horse Chestnut, Bilberry and zinc, for varicose veins myself. Works 
 great. I don't have them anymore:)
 
 Annie
 If we could sell our experiences for what they
 cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
 Abigail Van Buren
 


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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread Annie B Smythe
The problem there is that a person might be 
deficient in one or two things and taking 
something in a food form will help but not totally 
correct the deficiency. In order to bring that one 
or two that you're low in to a sufficient level 
they'd have to eat a ton of whatever it is they're 
low in, and over do in others. That's why I like 
separate supplements so I can tweak the dosage as 
needed. I hate all in one supplements. Food forms 
are great if there is a mild deficiency. However 
the bigger amounts of Vit C that I see people take 
cannot be had from food or everyone would be as 
big as barns:)


The typical standard processed diet, and even a 
more healthy diet, and generally low amounts of 
vitamins and minerals due to large scale food 
production practices, anymore leaches vitamins and 
minerals faster than they can be replaced by diet 
alone. Not to mention the fluoride, bromides, 
chlorine, aluminum, mercury, lead, and other 
chemicals in food. The list goes on and on MSG, 
HFCS, genetically modified foods, and processed 
bleached salt, there are many more, I can't name 
all of them.. They number in the hundreds. Then 
there are the external pollutants such as smog, 
and etc.


Diabetics are usually low in magnesium and zinc, 
Coq10, and a few others. The only way to know for 
sure is to have blood levels done to see what is low.


5-10 mg of magnesium per kg is what is recommended 
in just about every research article I can find. 
Body weight in lbs divided by 2.2 x 5-10. That 
amount of magnesium would be very hard to get in 
food. If it were 100 years ago, I might be 
convinced, but not now. Magnesium Chloride is 
absorbed very well. And the reason magnesium is 
hard to absorb is that the more deficient a person 
is the less the body absorbs. A person has to keep 
plugging away at it until the absorption rate 
increases. Epsom salt baths, magnesium chloride 
oil, and oral supplementation.


The serum levels of magnesium however do not 
reflect the tissue levels, or the amount that is 
actually in the cells.


If we could get everything we need from food, then 
there would be no supplement industry. Which is 
exactly what Big Pharma and the FDA would like. 
Then God helps us all.


Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

The thing is, if you take chlorella or kelp, you get the whole spectrum of vits 
and minerals in a balanced food form, which is the best way.  To take separate 
minerals is a very dicey thing to do because to unbalance them will bring more 
problems than a deficiency.  Also the form of mineral is really important too 
as for instance, magnesium oxide is more difficult to 'use' than the magnesium 
citrate form.  It is better for the body to take things in a food form.  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 01:30, Annie B Smythe wrote:


Horse Chestnut, and Bilberry will help strengthen the capillaries, veins and 
arteries, everywhere in the body. Horse Chestnut can help prevent; hemorrhoids, 
spider veins, and varicose veins, as well. And tell her to get her doctor to 
check her zinc levels, low zinc can cause more fragile blood vessels. The great 
majority of people who have died from aneurysms have been found to be low on 
zinc. Be aware though, that if you supplement zinc, you may have to supplement 
copper and magnesium as well to keep them balanced.

I take Horse Chestnut, Bilberry and zinc, for varicose veins myself. Works 
great. I don't have them anymore:)

Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren




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Re: CSWhere to find pure sodium bicarbonate

2010-01-09 Thread John E. Stevens
Mercola sells his own cook ware...  Interesting  seems like everything's
bad to competitors...  I don't see how Vision ware could leech lead...

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Would it have been a Mercola article because I seem to remember this also -
 and being surprised too.  dee

 On 8 Jan 2010, at 23:13, sol wrote:

  At 02:11 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote:
  Sol:
 
  I'd be interested in where you read that Vision Ware leeches lead if you
 can recall.  Hmmmnnn.  i had always thought it was one of the best.
 
  Yes, I've heard it is one of the best also. I cannot substantiate my
 memory re lead and visionware, could not begin to remember where I read it.
 It is also always possible my memory is faulty, and the lead leaching may
  have pertained to other types of cookware, possibly porcelain-enamel coated
 cast iron?
  Sorry for any confusion.
  sol
 
 


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Re: CSvisionware, other dishware and lead

2010-01-09 Thread John E. Stevens
Sol:

This is getting more interesting.  I didn't see anything about Corning
Vision ware in the returned tests.  Corelle is a diffent product.  i have a
set of Purple Corning Vision ware (from France I think) and a set of golden
yellow Corning Vision ware (from the states), too.  I live a 100 or so miles
from Corning.  I think I'll take a trip there in the Spring, but I'm going
to contact their web site and get some info if possible.

John

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:23 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:


 For anyone still interested I've found some tidbits at this site:

 http://wildinthecity.ca/2007/11/19/there-is-no-more-lead-in-my-dinnerware-i-think

* By http://yahooClaudia Kate on Aug 30, 2009 | Reply Canada makes
 the lowest lead content glass pots/ware from my previous web searching. My
 vision pyrex is purple in color and accdg to my research any glass with
 color has lead, i.e., the colors all have lead. San Francisco Aquarium
 recently shipped a glass dome all the way from Germany (made to order)
 because they were the only country that could produce lead-free glass; they
 were very concerned about the animal/reptile survival!!! interesting huh.
   * By MJ on Nov 9, 2009 | Reply BTW, anything made of clay/ceramic is
 going to have trace amounts of naturally occurring lead. The issue is the
 added lead (in glazes or added to the ceramic). This increases the lead to
 create caution for the consumer.


 There are a lot of posts to this site, few references though. At this
 point, I do not know what to think about visionware.
 My glass top stove booklet says using glass cookware is not
 recommended...anyone have a glass cooktop and use visionware?
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Re: vision ware, was Re: CSWhere to find pure sodium bicarbonate

2010-01-09 Thread John E. Stevens
Sol:

I read the link on Vision Ware.  I'm going to write Corning and get more
info.  Who wrote the info about Corning at Mothering - there is no
reference?  I'm beginning to wonder if there is any safe cooking pots or
cooking ware?  Seems there are drawbacks to most.  Whitaker and Mercola are
pushing their brands, too, as safe, but I'll wait for more objective third
party tests.
I gave up my glass top stove about ten years ago and went to natural gas
when they finally piped natural gas into the outback country where I live.
i know from studying ceramics and pottery years ago that there is lead in
certain ceramic glazes - so I avoid most ceramic plates and bowels. I don't
use plastic to store anything - only glass.   I have a set of German dishes
- I'll send you the name later - that I feel are safe, but can't prove.  It
gets more complicated as we go along here.

John

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:50 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:


 I've been trying to find info on vision ware re my memory of it being a
 problem, and didn't find anything about lead, but did find this:

 While anodized aluminum pots are not reactive, manufacturing them is toxic
 to the environment, so I can't endorse them. In the anodizing process, the
 etch reacts with aluminum and the resulting highly caustic outgas is vented
 into the atmosphere. Neither do I recommend CorningWare or VisionWare
 because these products contain synthetic polymers.

 the quote is from
 http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=32482 it gives no
 references nor test results.
 I had no idea that anodizing aluminum was a toxic process when I purchased
 mine a few years ago, and I have  not researched the issue.
 sol



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CSSeal shield with silver shield

2010-01-09 Thread Deborah Gerard
http://www.sealshield.com/products.htm


  

Re: CSGatorade and colloidal silver

2010-01-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Does anyone know of an equivalent of Gatorade in the UK?  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 11:07, Ode Coyote wrote:

 
 
  Now THERE'S a light bulb moment.
 Good going, Marshall !
 
 Ode
 
 
 At 11:33 AM 1/8/2010 -0500, you wrote:
 Brooks has reported some years ago that mixing Gatorade with colloidal 
 silver increases the colloidal silver absorption tremendously. An analysis 
 by myself had attributed this to the fact that the additional chloride ions 
 created complexes of silver chloride that were more soluble than silver 
 chloride. Ode attributed it to the fact that liquids matching the blood 
 electrolyte content are more quickly absorbed into the blood stream.  Both 
 of these theories are elaborated at 
 http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator
 


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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Chlorella is a concentrated form of food form supplement.  It is described as a 
superfood so would theoretically have more bioavailable forms of minerals than 
synthetic ones.  The problem with tweaking separate minerals is that it is 
difficult to actually *know* how deficient one is in any one or more of them.  
Unless of course as you say, you are tested and even then, as everyones needs 
are different and few are what the medicos term 'normal,' I would think it 
impossible to be sure you are not causing an imbalance.  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 12:18, Annie B Smythe wrote:

 The problem there is that a person might be deficient in one or two things 
 and taking something in a food form will help but not totally correct the 
 deficiency. In order to bring that one or two that you're low in to a 
 sufficient level they'd have to eat a ton of whatever it is they're low in, 
 and over do in others. That's why I like separate supplements so I can tweak 
 the dosage as needed. I hate all in one supplements. Food forms are great if 
 there is a mild deficiency. However the bigger amounts of Vit C that I see 
 people take cannot be had from food or everyone would be as big as barns:)
 
 The typical standard processed diet, and even a more healthy diet, and 
 generally low amounts of vitamins and minerals due to large scale food 
 production practices, anymore leaches vitamins and minerals faster than they 
 can be replaced by diet alone. Not to mention the fluoride, bromides, 
 chlorine, aluminum, mercury, lead, and other chemicals in food. The list goes 
 on and on MSG, HFCS, genetically modified foods, and processed bleached salt, 
 there are many more, I can't name all of them.. They number in the hundreds. 
 Then there are the external pollutants such as smog, and etc.
 


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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread Annie B Smythe
But Chlorella in sufficient amounts to correct 
deficiency would be prohibitively expensive. Even 
in bulk. I shopped broken cell chlorella for 
while, which is supposed to be the best form to 
use, and when I saw what they wanted for it. Uh 
Uh, not happening.


Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Chlorella is a concentrated form of food form supplement.  It is described as a 
superfood so would theoretically have more bioavailable forms of minerals than 
synthetic ones.  The problem with tweaking separate minerals is that it is 
difficult to actually *know* how deficient one is in any one or more of them.  
Unless of course as you say, you are tested and even then, as everyones needs 
are different and few are what the medicos term 'normal,' I would think it 
impossible to be sure you are not causing an imbalance.  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 12:18, Annie B Smythe wrote:


The problem there is that a person might be deficient in one or two things and 
taking something in a food form will help but not totally correct the 
deficiency. In order to bring that one or two that you're low in to a 
sufficient level they'd have to eat a ton of whatever it is they're low in, and 
over do in others. That's why I like separate supplements so I can tweak the 
dosage as needed. I hate all in one supplements. Food forms are great if there 
is a mild deficiency. However the bigger amounts of Vit C that I see people 
take cannot be had from food or everyone would be as big as barns:)

The typical standard processed diet, and even a more healthy diet, and 
generally low amounts of vitamins and minerals due to large scale food 
production practices, anymore leaches vitamins and minerals faster than they 
can be replaced by diet alone. Not to mention the fluoride, bromides, chlorine, 
aluminum, mercury, lead, and other chemicals in food. The list goes on and on 
MSG, HFCS, genetically modified foods, and processed bleached salt, there are 
many more, I can't name all of them.. They number in the hundreds. Then there 
are the external pollutants such as smog, and etc.




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CSmoon on fingernails?

2010-01-09 Thread Kathy Tankersley
Someone on this list recently commented on how his fingernails got a 'moon' on 
them when he increased his CS consumption.  Can someone on this list tell me 
what this looks like?  Thanks  Kathy

Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I must say I have had great success with it stopping the herpes zoster virus 
i.e. shingles.  I used to get what I call 'stabbing pains' intermittently which 
actually felt like someone sticking hot wires in me.  I had to take ibuprofen 
to stop it because I couldn't stand it.  It was the one thing I went to the 
doctors about and he said it was the herpes virus (shingles) which I get 
periodically when I am stressed.  While I take chlorella it stays away; as soon 
as I stop it is back.  I have also found it balances my blood sugars which were 
a bit high.  Just for your info it is used as a chelation medium too.  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 16:50, Annie B Smythe wrote:

 But Chlorella in sufficient amounts to correct deficiency would be 
 prohibitively expensive. Even in bulk. I shopped broken cell chlorella for 
 while, which is supposed to be the best form to use, and when I saw what they 
 wanted for it. Uh Uh, not happening.
 
 Annie
 If we could sell our experiences for what they
 cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
 Abigail Van Buren
 


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Re: CSGatorade and colloidal silver

2010-01-09 Thread sol

At 08:56 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote:
hey people you can do the same thing mixing cs with coconut water 
which is a lot healther
and non poisonous. but if you thing GATORADE is a good idear 
thats  up to you. just some info if your interested.


But coconut water does not contain a citric component does it?
sol 



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Re: CSWhere to find pure sodium bicarbonate

2010-01-09 Thread sol

At 04:24 AM 1/9/2010, you wrote:
Would it have been a Mercola article because I seem to remember this 
also - and being surprised too.  dee

Indeed I think that could have been the source.
sol 



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Re: vision ware, was Re: CSWhere to find pure sodium bicarbonate

2010-01-09 Thread sol

At 07:12 AM 1/9/2010, you wrote:

Sol:

I read the link on Vision Ware.  I'm going to write Corning and get 
more info.  Who wrote the info about Corning at Mothering - there is 
no reference?  I'm beginning to wonder if there is any safe cooking 
pots or cooking ware?  Seems there are drawbacks to most.


No idea, I did say no references were given.
I figure we do do the best we can taking into consideration personal 
financial situations and any personal health issues that absolutely 
rule out certain types of cookware.

sol


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Re: CSGatorade and colloidal silver

2010-01-09 Thread Norm
hi Marshall
I use Magnesium Citrate as a supplement ...would taking them together make 
EIS more absorbable
Norm


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Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSGatorade and colloidal silver


 At 08:56 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote:
hey people you can do the same thing mixing cs with coconut water which is 
a lot healther
and non poisonous. but if you thing GATORADE is a good idear thats  up to 
you. just some info if your interested.

 But coconut water does not contain a citric component does it?
 sol


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Re: CSmoon on fingernails?

2010-01-09 Thread Donna
I have a moon on mine but haven't been taking CS  I thought everyone 
did! It is where your cuticle meets the nail and mine is in the center 
under the nail bed

Go here to see
http://www.ck12.org/ck12/images?id=113356
Donna ACS

Someone on this list recently commented on how his fingernails got a 
'moon' on them when he increased his CS consumption.  Can someone on 
this list tell me what this looks like?  Thanks  Kathy




Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread Bernard Odeval
thank's for your anwser.
Dorothy told me about Odev. if i understand well she filters the water first
with a Brita and then use the Odev and has got good results.
i found a Odev WD717 (3L) which costs 150£...
i'm going to dig it...

2010/1/8 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

 At 01:44 PM 1/7/2010, you wrote:

  how to get the best distilled water do do that?
 should i buy a water distiller ?  i found a one which costs 200€...?
 will it be good enough?
 what about you and pure water?


 Distillers can be a gamble. I have heard of the cheap ones not distilling
 water to sufficient purity to make good CS, and I have also heard of $400
 distillers that also did not do a good enough job and had to be sent back.

 My distiller (the cheapest one available) did a very good job for around 6
 years, but just died. We are going to go with purchased DW for a while and
 see if it is better than it was back when I bought the still. I can do that,
 because I own a Hanna PWT water test meterI think that is a good
 first step if you can afford a good meter such as the Hanna PWT or the
 COM-100, because if you have never made your own CS before you can't know
 how pure you need the distilled water to be. Where I live, it needs to be
 .2uS to .3 uS  (considerably lower than a TDS meter can read) for reliably
 clear CS making. However, most places people can use distilled water up to
 3.0 uS and still get clear CS.
 sol


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Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread Bernard Odeval
thanks for your anwser...
so first you boil,then into the Odev and it fits for CS?
it would be great! but as you answered to Sol,you have to get a better
(hanna) watertester?
tel me when you'll got results...i'm verry interested; the specifications of
this Odev look good for the price!
thank's
Bernard

2010/1/8 Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org

 Hi Bernard, I bought an OdeV cheap water distiller, and it is brilliant!
  The water it makes is equal to the really expensive DW I used to buy which
 was double distilled by Polar distillers.  I have found that to boil cold
 water straight from the tap first, and then put it in the distiller is best.
  I did try putting it through a Brita filter first, but got a higher reading
 on my TDS meter, so I don't do that now, and get a reading of 000 on the
 meter.  This makes clear, approximately 10ppm EIS or CS as some call it.
  dee

 On 7 Jan 2010, at 20:44, Bernard Odeval wrote:

  hi there...
  i am almost about buying a silvergen SG6 to produce my own CS;
  but i understood that purity of the water is very important for good CS.
  my problem is how to get the best distilled water do do that?
  should i buy a water distiller ?  i found a one which costs 200€...?
  will it be good enough?
  what about you and pure water?
 
  thank you for anwser,sorry for my bad writing,
  and happy new silver year
 


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Re: CSGatorade and colloidal silver

2010-01-09 Thread Renee
If it's just the citric acid that frees the CS, couldn't a person just use
some citric acid in a drink?  Kind of tastes like lemonaid.

Samala,
Renee 

---Original Message---
 

 
Does anyone know of an equivalent of Gatorade in the UK?  dee
 

Re: CSmoon on fingernails?

2010-01-09 Thread John E. Stevens
If it's ablue moon, too much colloidal silver water or contaminated
colloidal silver salts may be being ingested.

John

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote:

  Someone on this list recently commented on how his fingernails got a
 'moon' on them when he increased his CS consumption.  Can someone on this
 list tell me what this looks like?  Thanks  Kathy



Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Sorry, this is incorrect, I got good results just using straight tap water, 
boiled first (to shorten distilling time) and not using the filters they 
provide either, i got brilliant results.  I got a bad result when I put it 
through a Brita filter.  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 18:04, Bernard Odeval wrote:

 thank's for your anwser.
 Dorothy told me about Odev. if i understand well she filters the water first 
 with a Brita and then use the Odev and has got good results.
 i found a Odev WD717 (3L) which costs 150£...
 i'm going to dig it...
 


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Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Yes Bernard, I got great results just using tap water *not* filtering it 
through a Brita first, and not using the filters that come with it.  The CS I 
make is clear and stable and the only reason I want to get a Hanna water tester 
is because I am slightly anal about things like this and do like to be more 
precise!  There is no other reason than that, and it wont' make the slightest 
difference to the CS I am making.  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 18:10, Bernard Odeval wrote:

 thanks for your anwser...
 so first you boil,then into the Odev and it fits for CS?
 it would be great! but as you answered to Sol,you have to get a better 
 (hanna) watertester?
 tel me when you'll got results...i'm verry interested; the specifications of 
 this Odev look good for the price!
 thank's
 Bernard
 


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Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread John E. Stevens
I am surprised at you, Dee, using tap water from all the contaminants I've
read about recently being in tap water (pharmaceutical drug residue,
fluoride, chlorine, chromium, lead, and about 140 other contaminants).  I
make my CS with distilled water as requested by the manufacturer of the CSW
machines I use.  Have you had your tap water tested?  Yuk.  I won't ever
drink tap water and won't let my animals drink it, either.  I draw my
drinking and cooking water from a deep underground spring a few miles down
my country road and store it in gallon glass jugs.  It's very deep in the
ground and very pure.  On a 90 degree F day it's 40 degrees F.  I haven't
had a glass of tap water in 15 - 20 years. And it'll be a cold day in hell
before I ever drink tap water or use it to make CSW.

John

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Yes Bernard, I got great results just using tap water *not* filtering it
 through a Brita first, and not using the filters that come with it.  The CS
 I make is clear and stable and the only reason I want to get a Hanna water
 tester is because I am slightly anal about things like this and do like to
 be more precise!  There is no other reason than that, and it wont' make the
 slightest difference to the CS I am making.  dee

 On 9 Jan 2010, at 18:10, Bernard Odeval wrote:

  thanks for your anwser...
  so first you boil,then into the Odev and it fits for CS?
  it would be great! but as you answered to Sol,you have to get a better
 (hanna) watertester?
  tel me when you'll got results...i'm verry interested; the specifications
 of this Odev look good for the price!
  thank's
  Bernard
 


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Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread Kathy
No way would I be consuming tap water! City tap at least. I have a well which I 
filter through a Berkley. I have wondered if I can use this instead of store 
bought distilled?
Kathy
  - Original Message - 
  From: John E. Stevens 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 1:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CSabout pure water


  I am surprised at you, Dee, using tap water from all the contaminants I've 
read about recently being in tap water (pharmaceutical drug residue, fluoride, 
chlorine, chromium, lead, and about 140 other contaminants).  I make my CS with 
distilled water as requested by the manufacturer of the CSW machines I use.  
Have you had your tap water tested?  Yuk.  I won't ever drink tap water and 
won't let my animals drink it, either.  I draw my drinking and cooking water 
from a deep underground spring a few miles down my country road and store it in 
gallon glass jugs.  It's very deep in the ground and very pure.  On a 90 degree 
F day it's 40 degrees F.  I haven't had a glass of tap water in 15 - 20 years. 
And it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever drink tap water or use it to make 
CSW.

  John


  On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

Yes Bernard, I got great results just using tap water *not* filtering it 
through a Brita first, and not using the filters that come with it.  The CS I 
make is clear and stable and the only reason I want to get a Hanna water tester 
is because I am slightly anal about things like this and do like to be more 
precise!  There is no other reason than that, and it wont' make the slightest 
difference to the CS I am making.  dee

On 9 Jan 2010, at 18:10, Bernard Odeval wrote:

 thanks for your anwser...
 so first you boil,then into the Odev and it fits for CS?
 it would be great! but as you answered to Sol,you have to get a better 
(hanna) watertester?
 tel me when you'll got results...i'm verry interested; the specifications 
of this Odev look good for the price!
 thank's
 Bernard



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Re: CSGatorade and colloidal silver

2010-01-09 Thread Tony Moody
Hi D,

If you do a search for Ringers solution or perhaps Oral Rehydration 
solution you should get close . and you could leave out the sugar or 
aspartame.  

Or Powerade should be relatively easy to get.

#
Powerade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

* History|
* Flavors|
* Ingredients|
* Competition

Powerade is a sports drink manufactured and marketed by The Coca-Cola 
Company. First introduced in 1988, its primary competitor is PepsiCo's 
Gatorade. As of December 2008, Powerade has grown to take 21.7 percent of 
the United...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWERade - 60k - Cached

ok,
Tony


On 9 Jan 2010 at 16:06, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSGatorade and colloidal silve

 Does anyone know of an equivalent of Gatorade in the UK?  dee
 
 On 9 Jan 2010, at 11:07, Ode Coyote wrote:
 
  
  
   Now THERE'S a light bulb moment.
  Good going, Marshall !
  
  Ode
  
  
  At 11:33 AM 1/8/2010 -0500, you wrote:
  Brooks has reported some years ago that mixing Gatorade with colloidal
  silver increases the colloidal silver absorption tremendously. An
  analysis by myself had attributed this to the fact that the additional
  chloride ions created complexes of silver chloride that were more
  soluble than silver chloride. Ode attributed it to the fact that
  liquids matching the blood electrolyte content are more quickly
  absorbed into the blood stream.  Both of these theories are elaborated
  at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator
  
 
 
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Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread sol
I am sure Dee will respond herself, but meantime, please re-read her 
post. She didn't say she is using tap water to make her CS, but that 
she is DISTILLING tap water.
So far as I have tested with my PWT meter, no filter is equal to 
distilling. My PWT doesn't read much different between plain tap 
water and filtered water. I did get better distilled water when I 
started from cold filtered tap water (a good faucet filter, not a 
Brita) than when I started from hot unfiltered tap water. The point 
of boiling before distilling is that preheating the water before 
putting it into the still shortens the distilling time somewhat. With 
my distiller though, it heated the water so fast that I didn't feel 
the extra work was worth it as it didn't produce a significant 
reduction in run time of the still.

sol

At 11:44 AM 1/9/2010, you wrote:
No way would I be consuming tap water! City tap at least. I have a 
well which I filter through a Berkley. I have wondered if I can use 
this instead of store bought distilled?

Kathy
- Original Message -
From: mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.comJohn E. Stevens
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSabout pure water

I am surprised at you, Dee, using tap water from all the 
contaminants I've read about recently being in tap water 
(pharmaceutical drug residue, fluoride, chlorine, chromium, lead, 
and about 140 other contaminants).



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Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread Annie B Smythe
Hey Sol were you using a RO filtering system? Just 
curious.


Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

sol wrote:
I am sure Dee will respond herself, but meantime, please re-read her 
post. She didn't say she is using tap water to make her CS, but that she 
is DISTILLING tap water.
So far as I have tested with my PWT meter, no filter is equal to 
distilling. My PWT doesn't read much different between plain tap water 
and filtered water. I did get better distilled water when I started from 
cold filtered tap water (a good faucet filter, not a Brita) than when I 
started from hot unfiltered tap water. The point of boiling before 
distilling is that preheating the water before putting it into the still 
shortens the distilling time somewhat. With my distiller though, it 
heated the water so fast that I didn't feel the extra work was worth it 
as it didn't produce a significant reduction in run time of the still.

sol

At 11:44 AM 1/9/2010, you wrote:
No way would I be consuming tap water! City tap at least. I have a 
well which I filter through a Berkley. I have wondered if I can use 
this instead of store bought distilled?

Kathy
- Original Message -
From: mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.comJohn E. Stevens
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSabout pure water

I am surprised at you, Dee, using tap water from all the contaminants 
I've read about recently being in tap water (pharmaceutical drug 
residue, fluoride, chlorine, chromium, lead, and about 140 other 
contaminants).



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Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread sol

At 12:37 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote:

Hey Sol were you using a RO filtering system? Just curious.


Unfortunately no. RO is too expensive for us. Also I don't like the 
amount of water wasted for each gallon of filtered water it produces.

sol


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Re: CSabout pure water

2010-01-09 Thread Bernard Odeval
thank you, i understood!
first, boiled water
second, Odev filter.
nice trick!
Bernard


2010/1/9 Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org

 Sorry, this is incorrect, I got good results just using straight tap water,
 boiled first (to shorten distilling time) and not using the filters they
 provide either, i got brilliant results.  I got a bad result when I put it
 through a Brita filter.  dee

 On 9 Jan 2010, at 18:04, Bernard Odeval wrote:

  thank's for your anwser.
  Dorothy told me about Odev. if i understand well she filters the water
 first with a Brita and then use the Odev and has got good results.
  i found a Odev WD717 (3L) which costs 150£...
  i'm going to dig it...
 


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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread gwms624

A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE  HAS SHINGLES.  NO SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.  IS THIS A 
GOOD TREATMENT AND IF SO WHAT IS THE DOSAGE??
 
Glladys 

- Original Message -
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 I must say I have had great success with it stopping the herpes 
 zoster virus i.e. shingles. I used to get what I call 'stabbing 
 pains' intermittently which actually felt like someone sticking 
 hot wires in me. I had to take ibuprofen to stop it because I 
 couldn't stand it. It was the one thing I went to the doctors 
 about and he said it was the herpes virus (shingles) which I get 
 periodically when I am stressed. While I take chlorella it 
 stays away; as soon as I stop it is back. I have also found it 
 balances my blood sugars which were a bit high. Just for your 
 info it is used as a chelation medium too. dee
 
 On 9 Jan 2010, at 16:50, Annie B Smythe wrote:
 
  But Chlorella in sufficient amounts to correct deficiency 
 would be prohibitively expensive. Even in bulk. I shopped broken 
 cell chlorella for while, which is supposed to be the best form 
 to use, and when I saw what they wanted for it. Uh Uh, not happening.
  
  Annie
  If we could sell our experiences for what they
  cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
  Abigail Van Buren
  
 
 
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Re: CSmoon on fingernails?

2010-01-09 Thread john freese
It was me you are asking about. The moons are a light slate blue color. No 
silver for about 6 weeks. I have been taking serrapeptase, selenium and alpha 
lipoic acid that someone on the list suggested but have noticed no difference 
in the color of the moons. Just to let the list know. Within 1 week after I 
stopped taking CS. I caught a cold. Then a cold sore that I have not seen in 3 
years reared its ugly head, and now I’m fighting an ear infection. CS works. 3 
years, no colds, no infections. John.





From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 11:03:39 AM
Subject: CSmoon on fingernails?


Someone on this list recently commented on how his fingernails got a 'moon' on 
them when he increased his CS consumption.  Can someone on this list tell me 
what this looks like?  Thanks  Kathy


  

CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Brooks Bradley
  Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple "humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations.  Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website).  There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises
quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults.  The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs.  Rapid,favorable, results
have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. 
   For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may 
obtain a copy of the December 2009  issue of Popular Science Magazine.
  Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.  


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread cking001
Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

Chuck
Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees


On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote:
 Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
 (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
 humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
 blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated
 several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
 most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website).
 There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
 promises
 quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
 pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
 invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
 nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
 and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
 accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
 results
 have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
 on a regular basis.
 For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and
 results---one may
 obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread jr orrilia
Just wanted to share something else that would help help and greatly relieve 
the pain, bentonite clay. 
 http://www.aboutclay.com/more_testimonials.htm





From: gwms...@optonline.net gwms...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 5:31:50 PM
Subject: Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking



A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE  HAS SHINGLES.  NO SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.  IS THIS A 
GOOD TREATMENT AND IF SO WHAT IS THE DOSAGE??

Glladys 

- Original Message -
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 I must say I have had great success with it stopping the herpes 
 zoster virus i.e. shingles. I used to get what I call 'stabbing 
 pains' intermittently which actually felt like someone sticking 
 hot wires in me. I had to take ibuprofen to stop it because I 
 couldn't stand it. It was the one thing I went to the doctors 
 about and he said it was the herpes virus (shingles) which I get 
 periodically when I am stressed. While I take chlorella it 
 stays away; as soon as I stop it is back. I have also found it 
 balances my blood sugars which were a bit high. Just for your 
 info it is used as a chelation medium too. dee
 
 On 9 Jan 2010, at 16:50, Annie B Smythe wrote:
 
  But Chlorella in sufficient amounts to correct deficiency 
 would be prohibitively expensive. Even in bulk. I shopped broken 
 cell chlorella for while, which is supposed to be the best form 
 to use, and when I saw what they wanted for it. Uh Uh, not happening.
  
  Annie
  If we could sell our experiences for what they
  cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
  Abigail Van Buren
  
 
 
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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis
for shingles, suan zao ren tang or blood electrification.  
you can also use suan zao ren wan, which is the teapill form or suan zao ren 
san, which i think is the powder form.


  - Original Message - 
  From: jr orrilia 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:31 PM
  Subject: Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking


  Just wanted to share something else that would help help and greatly relieve 
the pain, bentonite clay. 
   http://www.aboutclay.com/more_testimonials.htm




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  From: gwms...@optonline.net gwms...@optonline.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 5:31:50 PM
  Subject: Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking



  A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE  HAS SHINGLES.  NO SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.  IS THIS A 
GOOD TREATMENT AND IF SO WHAT IS THE DOSAGE??

  Glladys 

  - Original Message -
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
  Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com

   I must say I have had great success with it stopping the herpes 
   zoster virus i.e. shingles. I used to get what I call 'stabbing 
   pains' intermittently which actually felt like someone sticking 
   hot wires in me. I had to take ibuprofen to stop it because I 
   couldn't stand it. It was the one thing I went to the doctors 
   about and he said it was the herpes virus (shingles) which I get 
   periodically when I am stressed. While I take chlorella it 
   stays away; as soon as I stop it is back. I have also found it 
   balances my blood sugars which were a bit high. Just for your 
   info it is used as a chelation medium too. dee
   
   On 9 Jan 2010, at 16:50, Annie B Smythe wrote:
   
But Chlorella in sufficient amounts to correct deficiency 
   would be prohibitively expensive. Even in bulk. I shopped broken 
   cell chlorella for while, which is supposed to be the best form 
   to use, and when I saw what they wanted for it. Uh Uh, not happening.

Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

   
   
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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Steve G
Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things.    
Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've 
been running into in recent weeks.

Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to 
approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of 
patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these 
things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape would be 
the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by 
cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'

Cool!

Steve G.


--- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM

Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

                    Chuck
Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees


On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote:
 Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
 (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
 humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
 blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated
 several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
 most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website).
 There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
 promises
 quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
 pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
 invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
 nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
 and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
 accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
 results
 have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
 on a regular basis.
 For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and
 results---one may
 obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Annie B Smythe
It may not be quite as effective but I always used 
a cupped hand to percuss the back and chest when 
my kids were congested. Of course it's very hard 
to do that to yourself. So yeah, neato idea.



Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

Steve G wrote:
  Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these 
things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the 
alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks.


Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who 
really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets 
around to approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with 
a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone 
could build one of these things that would work just as well.   The 
length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue.  I'd plan on 
making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a 
time until it was 'just right.'


Cool!

Steve G.


--- On *Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com /cking...@nycap.rr.com/* wrote:


From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM

Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

Chuck
Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees


On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com
/mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote:
  Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to
research
  (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using
a simple
  humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent
sinus
  blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we
evaluated
  several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake
(the
  most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his
website).
  There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
  promises
  quite effective aid in addressing many of the more
challenging/chronic
  pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical
device
  invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
  nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a
plastic tube
  and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
  accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
  results
  have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange
information
  on a regular basis.
  For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins
efforts---and
  results---one may
  obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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CSCodex: Public meeting announcement

2010-01-09 Thread Annie B Smythe
They're still working on this folks. They haven't 
forgotten or slowed down. And even though this 
isn't about CS, I understand the full codex has 
some 1600 pages, with everything from A-Z covered. 
I guess they want to sew everything up tight.


http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News__Events/NR_122909_01/index.asp
Public Meeting to Address Codex Committee on Milk 
and Milk Products

Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:49:33 -0600

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Office of 
Food Safety and the Agricultural Marketing Service 
(AMS) today announced a public meeting to provide 
information and receive comments on agenda items 
and draft U.S. positions that will be discussed at 
the 9th Session of the Codex Committee on Milk and 
Milk Products (CCMMP), to be held in Auckland, New 
Zealand, February 1 - 5, 2010.


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Re: CSCodex: Public meeting announcement

2010-01-09 Thread Steve G
I see it's only 1600 pages.   I'm not sure what it is, but maybe they could add 
it to the Health Care 'Reform' Bill.

Steve
--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com
Subject: CSCodex: Public meeting announcement
To: CS List silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 7:27 PM

They're still working on this folks. They haven't forgotten or slowed down. And 
even though this isn't about CS, I understand the full codex has some 1600 
pages, with everything from A-Z covered. I guess they want to sew everything up 
tight.

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News__Events/NR_122909_01/index.asp
Public Meeting to Address Codex Committee on Milk and Milk Products
Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:49:33 -0600

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Office of Food Safety and the Agricultural 
Marketing Service (AMS) today announced a public meeting to provide information 
and receive comments on agenda items and draft U.S. positions that will be 
discussed at the 9th Session of the Codex Committee on Milk and Milk Products 
(CCMMP), to be held in Auckland, New Zealand, February 1 - 5, 2010.

Annie
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cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
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CSSteve G.

2010-01-09 Thread Shirley Reed
  Steve, I have noticed your posts before.  It is good that another innovative 
mind is on this list.  We will all get many benefits I feel sure.  pj


  


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Dan Nave
http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus

http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/video/video-playing-lung-flute

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Brooks Bradley brooks76...@lycos.com wrote:
 Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
 (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
 humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
 blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated
 several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most
 effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There
 is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises
 quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
 pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
 invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing
 more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a
 reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
 accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results
 have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on
 a regular basis.
 For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and
 results---one may
 obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for
 discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at:
 http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:
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Re: CSlungus fungus

2010-01-09 Thread Steve G

The practice of cupping ones hands and pounding on the back of someone with 
lung congestion goes back quite a ways.  Anyone with a child that has cystic 
fibrosis is familiar with this.  It's called cupping.   When my son was small 
and going to the hospital frequently with pneumonia etc., they did a lot of 
cupping on him there.   Easy to do, but man, do your hands get the cramps.

Sounds like horses cantering about.   My son didn't have CF, but does have 
cerebral palsy and a reactive airway due to scarring and other damage incurred 
shortly after his traumatic birth.    When he was home, it was one of the 
fastest ways to get him to sleep as it's very relaxing.   I think some people 
use tennis balls cut in half to avoid the strain on your hands.  

But a lung flute to effectively and easily do the same thing or better?   This 
is tremendous!

Steve G.




--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 7:19 PM

It may not be quite as effective but I always used a cupped hand to percuss the 
back and chest when my kids were congested. Of course it's very hard to do that 
to yourself. So yeah, neato idea.


Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

Steve G wrote:
   Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these 
things.    Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative 
therapies I've been running into in recent weeks.
 
 Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
 needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to 
 approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of 
 patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of 
 these things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape 
 would be the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning 
 it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'
 
 Cool!
 
 Steve G.
 
 
 --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com /cking...@nycap.rr.com/* wrote:
 
 
     From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
     Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
     To: silver-list@eskimo.com
     Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM
 
     Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/
 
                         Chuck
     Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees
 
 
     On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com
     /mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote:
       Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to
     research
       (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using
     a simple
       humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent
     sinus
       blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we
     evaluated
       several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake
     (the
       most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his
     website).
       There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
       promises
       quite effective aid in addressing many of the more
     challenging/chronic
       pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical
     device
       invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
       nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a
     plastic tube
       and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
       accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
       results
       have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange
     information
       on a regular basis.
       For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins
     efforts---and
       results---one may
       obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
       Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f
 
 
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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread Dan Nave
Here is an article on Lysine for Herpes (Shingles) and a re-post of a
comment by Brooks Bradley.  This should help greatly.

I have also found that a Hulda Clark type zapper is effective for
shingles.  If there are any hardened areas or sores, you can soften
them with Castor oil and then the other modalities will be more
effective.

Dan


LYSINE HAS A SUPPRESSANT AFFECT ON BOTH TYPES OF HERPES SIMPLEX

Lysine has a suppressant affect on both types of Herpes Simplex (Type
1  Type 2). It also is effective with Herpes Zoster (Shingles),
canker sores, measles and chicken pox, which are viral cousins.

In addition to taking 1,000 mg, 3xday of Lysine, it is essential to
avoid the foods that contain the amino acid that promotes the Herpes
virus and its cousins, which is called Arginine.

The two foods with the highest levels of Arginine are chocolate and
peanuts, followed by the rest of the nuts, then beans, seeds and
grains. Until the Herpes sores are gone, one should avoid these food
items. In an especially virulent case of Herpes, as much as 10,000 mg
of lysine may be needed to conquer it.

The foods that are highest in Lysine are meats (including eggs and
fish), dairy products and nutritional (brewers) yeast. Fruits and
vegetables contain almost no amino acids, so are safe to eat.

Colloidal Silver in generous quantities is also effective against the
Herpes virus.

Info from:
Herpes Can be Prevented, by Nicholas Sampsidis, M.S.
Published by Advances in Preventive Health,
Sunflower Publishing Co., Glen Head, NY

From the SilverList:

 I got a cold sore on my lip three days ago. I've been putting CS
 and DMSO on it few time a day for three days and... nothing, still
 swollen like I got hit by a heavy weight boxer. I must admit that
 the itching symptoms were not there since I started the application
 but it's still not going away...?

Dear List Member,

The clear blisters occurring on the lips are, nearly always, herpes
simplex, a virus that has demonstrated to be susceptible to Colloidal
Silver.  However, as some outbreaks present a streaming effect on
occasion, the driving systemic insult may continue to produce a
constant replenishment of the challenging materials.  There are
several protocols which might offer a rapid favorable response.

However, we have found that the inclusion of Lysine becomes the key
ingredient.  One such protocol involves nothing more than obtaining
Lysine salve/ointment from your local pharmacy and applying it,
liberally, over the entire lip surface especially the point of
presentation.

Additionally, for quick systemic support, ingesting 1000 mg of lysine
powder twice daily has effected quite rapid response, in those
experimental cases where it was employed.

As a general condition, lysine ointment alone has given (at least for
us, in our experimental researches) very acceptable address to
conditions such as you outline.

Sincerely, B. B.


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:31 PM,  gwms...@optonline.net wrote:

 A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE  HAS SHINGLES.  NO SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.  IS THIS
 A GOOD TREATMENT AND IF SO WHAT IS THE DOSAGE??

 Glladys


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Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking

2010-01-09 Thread Dan Nave
I should also say that Colloidal Silver is very effective and the
articles imply that you should be using that also...

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is an article on Lysine for Herpes (Shingles) and a re-post of a
 comment by Brooks Bradley.  This should help greatly.

 I have also found that a Hulda Clark type zapper is effective for
 shingles.  If there are any hardened areas or sores, you can soften
 them with Castor oil and then the other modalities will be more
 effective.

 Dan


 LYSINE HAS A SUPPRESSANT AFFECT ON BOTH TYPES OF HERPES SIMPLEX

 Lysine has a suppressant affect on both types of Herpes Simplex (Type
 1  Type 2). It also is effective with Herpes Zoster (Shingles),
 canker sores, measles and chicken pox, which are viral cousins.

 In addition to taking 1,000 mg, 3xday of Lysine, it is essential to
 avoid the foods that contain the amino acid that promotes the Herpes
 virus and its cousins, which is called Arginine.

 The two foods with the highest levels of Arginine are chocolate and
 peanuts, followed by the rest of the nuts, then beans, seeds and
 grains. Until the Herpes sores are gone, one should avoid these food
 items. In an especially virulent case of Herpes, as much as 10,000 mg
 of lysine may be needed to conquer it.

 The foods that are highest in Lysine are meats (including eggs and
 fish), dairy products and nutritional (brewers) yeast. Fruits and
 vegetables contain almost no amino acids, so are safe to eat.

 Colloidal Silver in generous quantities is also effective against the
 Herpes virus.

 Info from:
 Herpes Can be Prevented, by Nicholas Sampsidis, M.S.
 Published by Advances in Preventive Health,
 Sunflower Publishing Co., Glen Head, NY

 From the SilverList:

 I got a cold sore on my lip three days ago. I've been putting CS
 and DMSO on it few time a day for three days and... nothing, still
 swollen like I got hit by a heavy weight boxer. I must admit that
 the itching symptoms were not there since I started the application
 but it's still not going away...?

 Dear List Member,

 The clear blisters occurring on the lips are, nearly always, herpes
 simplex, a virus that has demonstrated to be susceptible to Colloidal
 Silver.  However, as some outbreaks present a streaming effect on
 occasion, the driving systemic insult may continue to produce a
 constant replenishment of the challenging materials.  There are
 several protocols which might offer a rapid favorable response.

 However, we have found that the inclusion of Lysine becomes the key
 ingredient.  One such protocol involves nothing more than obtaining
 Lysine salve/ointment from your local pharmacy and applying it,
 liberally, over the entire lip surface especially the point of
 presentation.

 Additionally, for quick systemic support, ingesting 1000 mg of lysine
 powder twice daily has effected quite rapid response, in those
 experimental cases where it was employed.

 As a general condition, lysine ointment alone has given (at least for
 us, in our experimental researches) very acceptable address to
 conditions such as you outline.

 Sincerely, B. B.


 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:31 PM,  gwms...@optonline.net wrote:

 A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE  HAS SHINGLES.  NO SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.  IS THIS
 A GOOD TREATMENT AND IF SO WHAT IS THE DOSAGE??

 Glladys



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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Dan Nave
The shape of the tube is probably very important.

How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
 things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
 therapies I've been running into in recent weeks.

 Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who
 really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around
 to approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little
 bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one
 of these things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch
 tape would be the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then
 tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'

 Cool!

 Steve G.


 --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com* wrote:


 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
 Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM


 Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

 Chuck
 Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees


 On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley 
 (brooks76...@lycos.comhttp://mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com)
 wrote:
  Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
  (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
  humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
  blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we
 evaluated
  several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
  most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his
 website).
  There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
  promises
  quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
  pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
  invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
  nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
  and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
  accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
  results
  have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
  on a regular basis.
  For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and
  results---one may
  obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Steve G
I would go trial and error.  And as an experienced wind musician, the shape of 
the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in characteristics of the 
sound that are not relevant to it's medical effectiveness.  The important thing 
is achieve 16 mhz, which is extremely slow.    Middle C, in comparison, is set 
to a standard of 261.6 mhz.   The Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low 
C 4 octaves below middle C on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C 
note the piano has.  (16.35 mhz).

I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of the 
'reed.'   Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the tape 
starts off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the mouthpiece.  I'm 
sure this is important to it's ability to hit the proper note, but I believe 
that the most important thing is to hit the right vibrational frequency, 
without regard to the other sound characteristics.

It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears are 
not capable of detecting such a low note.

Steve G.





--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 8:29 PM

The shape of the tube is probably very important.  
 
How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?
 
Dan


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:





Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things.    
Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've 
been running into in recent weeks.


Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to 
approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of 
patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these 
things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape would be 
the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by 
cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'


Cool!

Steve G.


--- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:



From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com

Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM 





Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

                    Chuck
Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees


On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote:

 Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
 (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
 humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus

 blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated
 several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
 most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website).

 There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
 promises
 quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
 pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device

 invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
 nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
 and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous

 accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
 results
 have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
 on a regular basis.
 For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and

 results---one may
 obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread cking001
music pitch pipe?
Chuck

SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES 
ROOM DARKER


On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote:
 The shape of the tube is probably very important. 
  
 How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?
  
 Dan
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com [link:
 mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] wrote:
 Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
 things.    Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
 therapies
 I've been running into in recent weeks.
 
 Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
 needs it. Of course, I don't
 want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to
 it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic
 tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that
 would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape would be the
 biggest issue. 
 I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch 
 at a time until it was 'just
 right.'
 
 Cool!
 
 Steve G.
 
 
 --- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: 
 mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] wrote:
 
 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: 
 mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]



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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Renee
 I have zero music background so don't understand any of it, but in reading
the comments on the first link a person posted this.  Is it true?

The solution is simple. Make a one note musical instrument with the same
basic design. Then cover the hole with your finger to get the same
vibrations as the lung flute. Anyone can design and make one and the FDA
would not be able to do a thing about it.

---Original Message---
 
 
http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus
 

Re: CSReverse Lightbulbs

2010-01-09 Thread Steve G
I had seen an article years ago, Chuck, in the Journal of Irreproducible 
Results that had a detailed description of the reverse lightbulb, or 'Darkbulb.'

Apparently these are not commercially feasible yet and not very many prototypes 
exist.  One can see a photograph of on at this link - 

http://depletedcranium.com/Darkbulb2.jpg   

Or a more full description at THIS link - 

http://keelynet.com/humor/darkbulb.txt

You'll note that it's range is limited.  This is because it was photographed 
after it had been turned off, but before the electricity had fully spent 
itself.  Had it been left in full 'on' position, the photo would have merely 
been just black.

I'm currently appealing to the inventor to see if he can turn his focus to 
something which I think holds great commercial promise.  The Reverse 
Microwave.    Just think, such a thing could cool one's drinks quickly, freeze 
ice cubes instantaneously, and so on.   I have suggested that they should 
investigate merely reversing the power supply polarity, but I am merely a 
musician and suspect it may be slightly more complex than this.

The world is full of wonder.

Steve G.



--- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 9:24 PM

music pitch pipe?
                    Chuck

    SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES 
ROOM DARKER


On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote:
 The shape of the tube is probably very important. 
  
 How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?
  
 Dan
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com [link:
 mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] wrote:
 Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
 things.    Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
 therapies
 I've been running into in recent weeks.
 
 Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
 needs it. Of course, I don't
 want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to
 it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic
 tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that
 would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape would be the
 biggest issue. 
 I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch 
 at a time until it was 'just
 right.'
 
 Cool!
 
 Steve G.
 
 
 --- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: 
 mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] wrote:
 
 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: 
 mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]



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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Steve G
The design is indeed simple.   I'm sure other designs would work well too, but 
not only is the correct pitch important, but it must have a way to convey this 
pitch to the lungs.  One wonders if an electrical vibrator pitched to the right 
frequency would do the job.   It would likely be more expensive to produce, but 
could have the advantage of being tunable in case some people have lungs with 
cilia that vibrate at a slightly different wavelength.   Hard to believe that 
every single human has lungs tuned to 16 mhz exactly, but maybe at that low 
threshold accuracy is not as important.


--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 9:37 PM


 
 
#yiv886187764 v\3a* {
}

#yiv886187764 v\3a* {
}






 I have zero music background so don't understand any of it, but in reading the 
comments on the first link a person posted this.  Is it true?
 
The solution is simple. Make a one note musical instrument with the same 
basic design. Then cover the hole with your finger to get the same vibrations 
as the lung flute. Anyone can design and make one and the FDA would not be 
able to do a thing about it.
 
---Original Message---
 
 
http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus
 











  

Re: CSmoon on fingernails?

2010-01-09 Thread Steve G
John, did you mention your source of your cs?   It could be that your cs is not 
electrically isolated silver or may have some sort of impurity that you did not 
anticipate.  

Additionally, there are other causes of blue or grey nailbeds.  
Wrongdiagnosis.com lists 12 different medical conditions that could cause 
this.   'Silver Poisoning' is one of the 12.   

I would recommend having it checked out to see if one of the other 11 
conditions may be present.  

Chloroquine
COPD - blue nails
Fracture
Insufficient oxygen
Melanoma
Methahemoglobinemia - blue nails
Pseudomonas aeruginosa
See causes of cyanosis
Silver poisoning
Subungual hematoma
Trauma
Wilson's diseaseKissing a Smurf under a Blue Moon

Please ignore the last 'cause.'  As many have noticed today, I am having a 
great deal of trouble today controlling my hands and they are typing the most 
absurd stuff.

Steve G.

--- On Sat, 1/9/10, john freese jrf...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: john freese jrf...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 5:48 PM


It was me you are asking about. The moons are a light slate blue color. No 
silver for about 6 weeks. I have been taking serrapeptase, selenium and alpha 
lipoic acid that someone on the list suggested but have noticed no difference 
in the color of the moons. Just to let the list know. Within 1 week after I 
stopped taking CS. I caught a cold. Then a cold sore that I have not seen in 3 
years reared its ugly head, and now I’m fighting an ear infection. CS works. 3 
years, no colds, no infections. John.





From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 11:03:39 AM
Subject: CSmoon on fingernails?




Someone on this list recently commented on how his fingernails got a 'moon' on 
them when he increased his CS consumption.  Can someone on this list tell me 
what this looks like?  Thanks  Kathy




  


  

RE: CSReverse Lightbulbs

2010-01-09 Thread Neville Munn

[The Reverse Microwave]

-That's why it revolves one way, then the opposite way, one way for heating and 
the other way for cooling.

 

N.
 


Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 18:47:21 -0800
From: chube...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSReverse Lightbulbs
To: silver-list@eskimo.com





I had seen an article years ago, Chuck, in the Journal of Irreproducible 
Results that had a detailed description of the reverse lightbulb, or 'Darkbulb.'

Apparently these are not commercially feasible yet and not very many prototypes 
exist.  One can see a photograph of on at this link - 

http://depletedcranium.com/Darkbulb2.jpg   

Or a more full description at THIS link - 

http://keelynet.com/humor/darkbulb.txt

You'll note that it's range is limited.  This is because it was photographed 
after it had been turned off, but before the electricity had fully spent 
itself.  Had it been left in full 'on' position, the photo would have merely 
been just black.

I'm currently appealing to the inventor to see if he can turn his focus to 
something which I think holds great commercial promise.  The Reverse Microwave. 
   Just think, such a thing could cool one's drinks quickly, freeze ice cubes 
instantaneously, and so on.   I have suggested that they should investigate 
merely reversing the power supply polarity, but I am merely a musician and 
suspect it may be slightly more complex than this.

The world is full of wonder.

Steve G.



--- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 9:24 PM


music pitch pipe?
Chuck

SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES 
ROOM DARKER


On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote:
 The shape of the tube is probably very important. 
  
 How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?
  
 Dan
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com [link:
 mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] wrote:
 Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
 things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
 therapies
 I've been running into in recent weeks.
 
 Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
 needs it. Of course, I don't
 want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to
 it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic
 tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that
 would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape would be the
 biggest issue. 
 I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch 
 at a time until it was 'just
 right.'
 
 Cool!
 
 Steve G.
 
 
 --- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: 
 mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] wrote:
 
 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: 
 mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]



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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Dan Nave
How about a strobe light, or an equivalent mechanical viewing device?

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

   I would go trial and error.  And as an experienced wind musician, the
 shape of the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in
 characteristics of the sound that are not relevant to it's medical
 effectiveness.  The important thing is achieve 16 mhz, which is extremely
 slow.Middle C, in comparison, is set to a standard of 261.6 mhz.   The
 Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low C 4 octaves below middle C
 on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C note the piano has.  (16.35
 mhz).

 I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of
 the 'reed.'   Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the
 tape starts off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the
 mouthpiece.  I'm sure this is important to it's ability to hit the proper
 note, but I believe that the most important thing is to hit the right
 vibrational frequency, without regard to the other sound characteristics.

 It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears
 are not capable of detecting such a low note.

 Steve G.





 --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 8:29 PM


  The shape of the tube is probably very important.

 How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?

 Dan

 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G 
 chube...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=chube...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
 things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
 therapies I've been running into in recent weeks.

 Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who
 really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around
 to approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little
 bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one
 of these things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch
 tape would be the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then
 tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'

 Cool!

 Steve G.


 --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, 
 cking...@nycap.rr.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com
 cking...@nycap.rr.com http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com*wrote:


 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com
 cking...@nycap.rr.com http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com
 Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM


 Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

 Chuck
 Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees


 On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley 
 (brooks76...@lycos.comhttp://mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com)
 wrote:
  Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to
 research
  (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a
 simple
  humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
  blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we
 evaluated
  several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
  most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his
 website).
  There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
  promises
  quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
  pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
  invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
  nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
  and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
  accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
  results
  have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
  on a regular basis.
  For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins
 efforts---and
  results---one may
  obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread Dan Nave
You can't hear that low a frequency, maybe a hetrodyned frequency though...

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM,  cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 music pitch pipe?
                                        Chuck

        SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES
 ROOM DARKER


 On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote:
 The shape of the tube is probably very important.

 How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?

 Dan




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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-01-09 Thread cking001
16 mhz would be beyond the range of hearing.
Perhaps you mean 16 Hz or 16 KHZ?
One is at the lowest audible and the other near the highest.

Chuck
5 out of 4 people have a problem with fractions.

On 1/9/2010 8:48:57 PM, Steve G (chube...@yahoo.com) wrote:
 I would go trial and error. And as an experienced wind musician, the shape
 of the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in characteristics
 of the sound that are not relevant to
 it's medical effectiveness. The important thing is achieve 16 mhz, which is 
 extremely slow.   Middle C, in comparison, is set to a standard of 261.6 mhz. 
  The Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low C 4 octaves below 
 middle C on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C note the piano has. 
 (16.35 mhz).
 
 I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of 
 the 'reed.
 '  Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the tape starts 
 off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the mouthpiece. I'm
 sure this is important to
 it's ability to hit the proper note, but I believe that the most important 
 thing is to hit the right vibrational frequency, without regard to the other 
 sound characteristics.
 
 It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears 
 are not capable of detecting such a low note.
 
 Steve G.
 
 
 
 
 
 --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subjec


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