CSOT -Magnesium for the chemists in the group
In this video, Dr. Carolyn Dean explains the relationship between calcium and magnesium, which turns out to be something that can save your life it is so crucial. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/12/08/magnesium-health-benefits.aspx Del From: RaVen Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 2:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT -Magnesium for the chemists in the group Thanks, Lynn, for your detailed observation notes about how minerals affects your muscle spasms. What's intriguing is that my calcium level in that Spectrum vitamin (blood) test was that my calcium was actually way above normal. Ironically I am not supposed to eat dairy and casein -- but I confess I'm addicted to it and trying to quit - have to wean slowly. So now it makes me wonder if the calcium (without taking any magnesium supplement) is triggering the entire body muscle spasms? I did read once, somewhere, dairy can cause muscle spasms --- I don't want to accept that but I do. Even raw milk of cow/goat/sheep/camel still affects me. So depressing as I love milk/cream/butter. *sigh* I hope the potassium does the trick - I am fed up with ignorant doctors telling me all kinds of BS half-hearted remedies - such as drink more water - eat more salt - do yoga- take muscle relaxing drugsetc and nothing is working. I start to feel like I'm a lunatic to bother fed up doctors or something. OTP (off the point) question about silver colloidal silver - where can I find a truthful site that teaches people all the benefits it does for ailments? RaVen On Feb 19, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Lynn lynngreene...@gmail.com wrote: I find that if I have 99 mg of potassium bisglycinate once a day, and 3 (300 mgs of magnesium glycinate chelate, it sometimes isn’t enough and I’ll need two more magnesium glycerinate chelate pills about 4 a.m. If I take calcium pills I often get bad Charlie Horse cramps. But I can have foods with calcium in them. I’ve tried to take Calcium many times and ended up with the cramps. The potassium seems to regulate kidney function. Just my observations for my own body. Lynn On Feb 19, 2015, at 6:34 PM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, John, for your speedy reply. Much appreciated --- I'll check the Morton brand for potassium. Lately my muscles have been acting up overtime like severe Charlie Horse cramps all over my body. Strangely enough, I just had a Spectra vitamin/mineral blood test and it says my potassium level is normal? Not sure if I believe this test. Cheers, RaVen On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:29 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: Not unless it says Iodized on the package. I use salt substitute made by Mortons and it has no iodine. On 02/19/2015 09:21 PM, ASL raVen wrote: Hi John, Does the potassium salt have iodine in it? RaVen -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- My Google Voice Text # is (720) 442-8725 Quote: What the world really needs is more love and less paper work. Pearl Bailey
Re: CSCS: Glass bottles, magnesium bicarbonate
I think this is the same one: http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f11/make-your-own-magnesium-bicarbonate-drink-tastes-sweet-46555/ Del From: PT Ferrance Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Glass bottles, magnesium bicarbonate No link for making it, that I could find... and I even did a search. PT From: Harold har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:16 AM Subject: CSCS: Glass bottles, magnesium bicarbonate Have used clear glass bottles from the start of brewing.Some from about my first brew has not changed in approx. 20 years.Must be cheaper than coloured. Magnesium bicarbonate is very cheap and easy to make ; it is quick to get into the system.The CO2 is very beneficial to the cells along with the magnesium. To get the recipe for home making, go to : http://www.mgwater.com/bicarb.shtml ,then click on ; Make your own Magnesium Bicarbonate drink !! Tastes sweet.. Very easy take,and very effective. Harold -
CSBladder Infection
Here are two articles about urinary tract infections you should read very carefully: http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/24975063#/24975063/86 http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/ The first article gives a good over all description of the problem and the solution, but strangely does not mention D-Mannose, which is already available in most health food and vitamin shops. D-Mannose is known to do exactly what the article describes as the best way to combat the problem. Cranberry is good too, but, if I were you, I would start supplementing with D-Mannose immediately as per Dr. Jonathan Wright’s article above. It can’t hurt anything and might very well work for you. A good cranberry supplement too. If these don’t help, then you can consider other, more difficult and dangerous options I would try these first. Del
CSSG6 Electrodes
Hi: It seems there was a lot more interest in the SG6 electrodes than I expected. Sorry I could only send them to one person, and that person has been notified. If you did not get notified, then I apologize, and I wish I had enough to send to everybody who wanted them! Sincerely, Del
CSFree SG6 Silver Electrodes
Hi: I have some unused SG6 silver electrodes that I will not use because I no longer have the SG6. If anybody wants and can use them, please send your address to d...@altsystem.com, and I will mail them to you free of charge. They were never used, but they have been sitting in a cupboard for quite a while and do have a little tarnish, so they will need cleaning. Del
CSSG6 electrodes
Hi: I have already received several replies to my initial message offering SG6 electrodes. The first one in will get the electrodes, I will reply to all who replied to me. Del
Re: CSOT - shower filter
If you want excellent water filtration, you have to spend some money.
We use a Multipure under sink filter from Best Filters.com
http://www.bestfilters.com/Multipure-Undercounter-Water-Filter-With-Arsenic-Reduction_p_572.html
Best Filters offer a wide range of excellent filters at various price levels –
worth looking at just to get ideas.
In addition to the under sink drinking water filter, we use an activated carbon
whole house filter (chloramine removal) and shower filters from Aquasana.
Del
From: Joe Huard
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - shower filter
http://www.pure-earth.com/fluoride-water-filters.htm
It's activated alumina.
Joe
On 16/01/2014 7:14 AM, Neville wrote:
I don't think there is a filter system on the market that will remove
Fluoride. I spoke with reps of the Seagull home water purification systems
{which of course they say is the best money can buy} but nowhere in their
information material does it state theirs will remove Fluoride, everything else
seemingly g but nowhere does it state Fluoride removal.
My understanding is RO is the only way to remove it, and that I am led to
believe is fairly cost prohibitive for the home.
N.
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From: highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - shower filter
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:38:49 +1100
What about the Fluoride removal, for the town dwellers?
Jane
The filters that remove chlorine don’t necessarily remove chloramine.
Chloramine can be removed for drinking water purposes by a carbon block or
activated carbon filter that can be installed on a kitchen faucet. Also, both
chlorine and chloramine can be removed for bathing purposes by dissolving
Vitamin C in the bath water. One 1000 mg Vitamin C tablet will neutralize
chloramine in an average bathtub. (18)
There are no shower filters on the market that completely remove
chloramine. (19) There are, however, whole house water filters that remove
chlorine, chloramine, and other contaminants. Unfortunately, they’re quite
expensive and thus may not be an option for many people.
Vitamin C shower filters may be a good choice for those looking for an
inexpensive way to reduce the chloramine (and chlorine) content of their
showers. Vitamin C is an effective dechlorination agent, removing up to 99% of
chlorine and chloramine, and vitamin C filters are much less expensive than the
whole house filter featured above. The disadvantage to using them is they’re
not as durable or effective as a whole house filtration system, and you would
need a separate filter for each shower outlet in the house.
http://chriskresser.com/is-your-daily-shower-making-you-sick
CSMercola recommends colloidal silver for antibiotic use
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/03/antibiotics-colloidal-silver.aspx?e_cid=20130703_DNL_JLY4DNOMIN_JLY4BAN_art_1utm_source=dnlutm_medium=emailutm_content=art1utm_campaign=20130703JLY4DNOMIN
Fw: CSFwd: PLEASE HELP RE MY HUSBAND..
My wife has completely solved her trigger finger problem through the use of this product: http://www.amazon.com/Thorne-Research-Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate-Vegetarian/dp/B005P0JHS6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1372561544sr=8-3keywords=thorne+pyridoxal+5%27+phosphate It is a form of B vitamin (B6?). She advises taking two to three capsules a day for about a week, then reducing to one a day until symptoms have disappeared. There are no negative side effects that we know of. The cure has been complete, but it may recur, in which case you take this product again. Del Brooks, my husband, my dear husband is suffering from trigger finger of the ring finger on the left hand, for the last 3 weeks. Nothing can be done with conventional medicine for this problem. Can you please suggest something. His symptoms are : very difficult to bend the finger from the first knuckle away from the palm, if he bends the finger, it locks up, then he has to manually unlock it. Intermittent pain. Bless You, Glenda Mason
Re: CSHow to clean jars for silver making
To clean the jar: Different people have their methods. One thing you should never do is use any kind of soap or cleaner on the jar. I find that putting some drug store hydrogen peroxide in the jar, putting on a waterproof canning jar top, and shaking vigorously pretty much cleans the jar, after which you should rinse with some distilled water. If your jar is turning yellow or you get yellow CS or plating out, you probably have impurities in the water from either the electrodes (don’t ever touch them with your hands, and if you do clean with hydrogen peroxide) or because your setting is too high and you are making the silver too strong. Del From: JERRY PRENDERGAST Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHow to clean jars for silver making Hi, Would you please share how you clean your jars for silver making. I was told by Silver Gen not to put the glass mason jars in the dishwasher. Only to rinse in how water. I also thought they said to just keep reusing the jars ...no need to wash or rinse them after a use. As I recently posted. I have white on the bottom of the recent batch. So Sivler Gen said to rinse them in hot water. Do others rinse or wash out their jars which they use to make silver in? Thanks, Sandy
Re: CSStem Cell / Cleopatra's milk
Here is a ten minute video that explains some of the most crucial things that are wrong with processed milk – and, by inference, what is right with raw milk. Well worth your ten minutes, this is an excerpt from the 2 hour video “The Whole Truth About Milk” which can be purchased from Amazon.com. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K64YK1AAFYo Here in Vermont, we are blessed to be able to legally purchase raw milk at farms that are only a few minutes away from the city. It has made a major difference to my health, especially since I am able to make raw milk Kefir out of it and consume it every day. Del From: James McDonald Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStem Cell / Cleopatra's milk They don't want people to know how bad the regular milk is, loaded with antibiotics, the cows having mastitis and putting all kinds of bad crap into the milk, bacterial or mycotic organisms and all the other junk. They just pasteurized the milk and call it safe. All the natural things that were in the milk now are destroyed, if people drink the raw milk and thry feel better and people don't get bad reactions from the raw milk (I grew up with my grandfarther giving us milk straight from the cow and we had no problems! If enough people realize how bad regular milk is and how good raw milk is there would be a revolt! But They don't want anybody to find out or pass this info along. Notice that milk alleriges only started with all the crap they started puttig into the cows? And with almost 100% of the cows with mastitis puttting all kinds of junk and leftover bacterial/mycotic organisms into basically a organic toxic waste/antibiotic dump and we are supposed to drink this?? From: Cyndi cyndi...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:52 PM Subject: Re: CSStem Cell / Cleopatra's milk On 3/23/2013 8:56 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote: It is illegal to sell raw milk for consumption here in Australia and so they state it is for bathing only call it Cleopatra's Jane It's illegal in many parts of the US too so they sell it for pet consumption only. I do let the pets have a little! Cyndi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTooth infection
Don’t believe everything you hear without checking on it. I have had a mouthful of titanium implants for several years with zero problems. I know several other people who have too. The key is getting them done by people who really know what they are doing. And then keeping them clean, just like natural teeth. I hear there are now ceramic implants, don’t know much about them. Del From: Lena Guyot Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTooth infection I've been told that the metal implants are asking for trouble. That's why I finally opted for a gap, even though I know it stresses my over-all bite and eating symmetry. Be well, Léna On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Jess wrote: what about tooth implants, are they unsafe like the root canals? Jess From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTooth infection You might want to deeply research the concept of root canals. I keep reading more and more articles indicating it is better to have a tooth pulled than risk the side effects of a root canal. PT -- From: Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 13, 2013 5:45:44 PM Subject: Re: CSTooth infection Thanks so much for the advice! This thread is so incredibly helpful! I do trust my dentist. However, I wish it was that simple. I do not have insurance or the thousands of dollars to takes for a root canal and crown. I will use the dental zapper I just built then go back for another x-ray. I did not ask him what it would cost if the infection was not there. Maybe just a crown. Also I have been having problems with digestive parasites. And I'm thinking lung parasites too. I made a zapper with toothbrushes. Should I make one with sponges for digestive or lung purposes? And what placement and for how long should I use the zapper for those two areas to have the best effects? Thanks again! On Mar 13, 2013 12:47 PM, Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from the dentist. He did an xray on my mercury amalgam filling to see what it would cost to take it out. He said because of the expanding and contracting of the filling I now have a crack down the tooth and int ok the root. He said it is infected and could start bothering me really soon, or not for a while. But it WILL end up being a problem. I am wondering if anyone has had success in treating a tooth infection of this magnitude with CS? And if so, what techniques did you use? Thank you in advance for the advice! Heather
Re: CSNutribullet
After reading about the Nutribullet on this site, I purchased one. Well, it smelled really bad, had that bad, very strong vinyl type of smell. It was sitting on our counter and the whole kitchen filled with that smell. Obviously outgassing something you would rather not breathe. Seems to come from the black rubber gear under the blade assembly. The unit claims BPA free, but there seems to be something worse than BPA coming from it. My wife insisted we should return it, and I agreed. I researched the stuff the Vitamix is made of, and it looks a lot better, think I will try that. Del From: Paul Steel Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNutribullet I have a blendtec and vitamixnever use them anymore thanks to the Nutribulletlove it Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:51 PM Subject: Re: CSNutribullet Hi Pat, You were lucky to choose the Nutribullet! It's got a lot more power than the earlier Magic Bullet. I've lost quite a bit of weight with the convenient Nutribullet smoothies I make (often just spinach and pear or kefir and banana with supplements). I'd had a Campion but clean-up was a chore and so much of the good in organic veg.s and fruit was lost in the eliminated skin. I've found that it's good to take the 'max fill' line very seriously or you will get overflow. If that happens, immediately turn just the power base upside down and rap it sharply over a towel so whatever liquid escaped doesn't run down into the motor area. Yes, it IS hard to unscrew, especially when hands are stiff in the morning. I put a broad elastic band around the large cup and that gives me a better grip when unscrewing the blade-top or the plastic rim/handle piece. A couple of friends with big Vitamixes now prefer the simple convenience of their Nutribullets. I bought three for family members this Christmas. One takes his to work! (Wish I had stock in the company!) You're right about not minding if they don't last as long as the pricier blenders. Their price makes replacement in a couple years not so very odious. We're on the road a lot in our Airstream and will love the compact size. Enjoy! Be well, Léna On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Pat wrote: At my doctor's appointment in July, we were concerned over my high blood pressure and needing to increase the dose of drug. The doctor asked me if I thought I could lose a little weight, so I made her tell me I had to lose some. She told me about her Magic Bullet blender. On the way home from the appointment, I stopped to buy a NutriBullet at Bed Bath, and Beyond ($80 if you use a 20% off coupon.) I stopped at Trader Joe's and got smoothie ingredients. I was not impressed with my first 2 or 3 smoothies, and thought the kale was causing allergy problems. Well, things have changed! Now I crave smoothies. I lost 15 pounds in the next 3 months. My blood pressure went down to good levels with the smallest dose of drug. My cholesterol was about 20 points lower than the previous year. I have tried making smoothies with my Oster blender, but they come out too foamy and not as smooth. I usually use: a large handful of spinach (or some kale mixed in) 1/2 container of plain yogurt 1 scoop whey protein 1/2 banana (sliced and frozen) frozen berries, cherries, peaches, or fresh nectarines 1/2 packet stevia unsweetened coconut water Often I add chia seeds (the chia and berry seeds remain a bit gritty.) Once I tried raw carrots, pineapple and the basic stuff and that came out smooth, too. I don't like celery in the smoothie, that was all I could taste. I also disliked almond milk even though I love almonds and eat raw ones most mornings. I love to make smoothies thick and eat them with a silver ice tea spoon out of a frozen beer mug. They are a real treat. A little more coconut water makes them fine through a normal straw. My NutriBullet has some minor problems with leaking, being hard to open, or not shutting off promptly, but I figure if it conks out, I'm going to buy another one immediately. I could buy one a year and it still might cost less than one of the premium blenders. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhole House Water Filter
I answered this before (early December), as quoted below. Maybe you didn’t see it? Or maybe you want some other options? Anyway, here is what we do: You really need a separate whole house filter, drinking water filter, and shower filter. That way, your drinking water and shower water are actually double filtered. These are the ones we use and they are terrific, especially the drinking water filter: http://www.purewaterproducts.com/chloraminefilter.htm (whole house filter – activated charcoal) http://www.bestfilters.com/Multipure-Undercounter-Water-Filter-With-Arsenic-Reduction_p_572.html (under sink drinking water filter) http://www.aquasana.com/product_detail.php?product_id=2discountcode=AQGPutm_source=googleutm_medium=cpcutm_campaign=PLAcagpspn=plagclid=CLuuq52O_bMCFYuZ4Aod3SMAyAkwid=productads-sku^AQ@ADL44100-adtype^PLA-adid^18434871985 (shower filter ) Del From: Paul Steel Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSWhole House Walter Filter Hi All Think its time for me to get rid of my Poland spring water deliver and add a whole house water filter. Looking for all and any advice on what I should install in my house :) Thanks Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Paul Steel Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 1:59 PM To: silver Subject: CSWhole House Water Filter Hey All I currently have poland spring water deliver to my house 5 gallon jubs and bottles of water...This is what I mostly drink...Do have a Life ionizer but dont loive the taste of ionized water after it sits in a glass for a little while Anyway- I want to add a whole house water system so all the water in my house is as clean as possible. Looking for some suggestions Thanks all Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSWhole House Water Filter
If you are only concerned about drinking water, the Multipure under sink filter is enough by itself. If you are also concerned about shower water, the Aqua Sana shower filter is very good and lasts about six months if you don’t have a whole house filter. With a whole house filter also in place, the shower filter easily lasts for a year. The whole house filter takes care of bath water and all other watering needs, including plants. Depending on your total water usage, the whole house filter is good for about five years before you need to change the activated charcoal. Del From: Paul Steel Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:18 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWhole House Water Filter Thanks Del I knew I asked this before- But kind of slacked off and lost all the info :) Thanks again Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: CSWhole House Water Filter I answered this before (early December), as quoted below. Maybe you didn’t see it? Or maybe you want some other options? Anyway, here is what we do: You really need a separate whole house filter, drinking water filter, and shower filter. That way, your drinking water and shower water are actually double filtered. These are the ones we use and they are terrific, especially the drinking water filter: http://www.purewaterproducts.com/chloraminefilter.htm (whole house filter – activated charcoal) http://www.bestfilters.com/Multipure-Undercounter-Water-Filter-With-Arsenic-Reduction_p_572.html (under sink drinking water filter) http://www.aquasana.com/product_detail.php?product_id=2discountcode=AQGPutm_source=googleutm_medium=cpcutm_campaign=PLAcagpspn=plagclid=CLuuq52O_bMCFYuZ4Aod3SMAyAkwid=productads-sku^AQ@ADL44100-adtype^PLA-adid^18434871985 (shower filter ) Del From: Paul Steel Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSWhole House Walter Filter Hi All Think its time for me to get rid of my Poland spring water deliver and add a whole house water filter. Looking for all and any advice on what I should install in my house :) Thanks Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Paul Steel Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 1:59 PM To: silver Subject: CSWhole House Water Filter Hey All I currently have poland spring water deliver to my house 5 gallon jubs and bottles of water...This is what I mostly drink...Do have a Life ionizer but dont loive the taste of ionized water after it sits in a glass for a little while Anyway- I want to add a whole house water system so all the water in my house is as clean as possible. Looking for some suggestions Thanks all Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSVITAMIN D DEFICIENCY
Mercola has always warned people against taking too much Vit D. He himself had an overdose and has been cautious ever since. He recommends that you monitor your levels (very important, although I have not done it), get as much as you can from sunlight (very difficult for many), and take supplement D3 to get levels to where they should be. He has been very consistent with this advice. Del From: MaryAnn Helland Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY So Dr. Mercola doesn't know what he's talking about? MA From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, December 8, 2012 8:51:15 AM Subject: Re: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY When I was in Florida for a month, while I was on the beach early in the am and pm, i spoke to 43 people who lived in Florida. Out of the 43, 29 were taking vit d3 and had been for awhile but their levels were still very low and had to keep taking vit d3 and were experiencing symptoms associated with the toxic side effects of the hormone. They were taking no less than 5k units a day many much more. What I believe is that the liver needs to keep the levels low because the hormone d3 sits in the liver and kidney for at least 3 months. Most alld3 is made from lanolin from China, including mouse poisons, vits , lotions, and a host of others. Some are made from fish oil example cod liver oil has vit d and a this is a alternative, but with all things do your research on fish oils, and lanolins some should not take them. Another is sardines great for d and natural calcium. Be very careful with the hormone d3 do your research! I looked at 4 gov. web sites and they suggest the intake to be for anyone over 70 250 mg a day, 50- 70,300mg, above that no more than 450 mg ,babies 200. Anything more is toxic I live in Wash. state where it rains. but in Sept to Oct if you sit in early morning sun for 20 min 2 to 3 times a week, you have stored enough for 3-4 months, this info is also from the gov. web site From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, December 7, 2012 2:30:05 PM Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY I started a new topic so I could air my views on this ridiculous Vit D deficiency BS. I live in Australia for Christ sake, we get enough sun here that if you walked around under it for too long your body fluids would start to simmer, and eventually boil inside your damn skin, and they waffle on and diagnose people with Vit D deficiency.?? Shear and utter lunacy!!! Work it out for heavens sake. WHY and HOW can Homo Sapien in the 21st century possibly be lacking in ANY vitamin, AND mineral if it comes to that, because I have no doubt we are surely lacking in bucket loads of those too if they cared to investigate??? We are slowly being poisoned, deprived of natural nutrients in pretty much EVERYTHING we drink and consume, not forgetting those microwave terminators that we put food and liquid into before consumption. If this was a natural occurrence, we would never have progressed past the Stone Age??? This lacking of vitamins and minerals is being forced upon every Homo Sapien on the planet pretty much, and with the dollar and profit as motivation. There is so much BS being spread around by those little people in their white dust coats that people are actually believing everything some organisation puts out. The FDA, our TGA and any other funded mob of laboratory Frankensteins all have vested interests in something OTHER than your and my health in mind!! There, I've got that off my chest, nobody need reply, just considered it was time for a voice of sanity and reason to be heard. N.
Re: CSWhole House Walter Filter
These are the ones we use and they are terrific: http://www.purewaterproducts.com/chloraminefilter.htm(whole house filter – activated charcoal) http://www.bestfilters.com/Multipure-Undercounter-Water-Filter-With-Arsenic-Reduction_p_572.html (under sink drinking water filter) http://www.aquasana.com/product_detail.php?product_id=2discountcode=AQGPutm_source=googleutm_medium=cpcutm_campaign=PLAcagpspn=plagclid=CLuuq52O_bMCFYuZ4Aod3SMAyAkwid=productads-sku^AQ@ADL44100-adtype^PLA-adid^18434871985 (shower filter ) Del From: Paul Steel Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSWhole House Walter Filter Hi All Think its time for me to get rid of my Poland spring water deliver and add a whole house water filter. Looking for all and any advice on what I should install in my house :) Thanks Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPain Relief (anti-inflammatory)
The soy in this product is not a whole soy, but is only an extract from soy (phosphatidylcholine) that is combined with the curcumin to create a “phytosome” which is much more bioavailable than the curcumin alone. This process is used to enhance quite a few other herbal extracts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytosome I don’t believe phosphatidylcholine or the resultant phytosomes have any of the negative health implications of a whole soy product such as soy milk, etc. Many members on this list create their own liposomal vit C, according to the Brooks Bradley formula, using soy lecithin (similar to phosphatidylcholine) to achieve liposomal encapsulation and thus much greater bio-availability. Del From: olushola camara Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 9:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPain Relief (anti-inflammatory) On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM, treblcl...@aol.com wrote: Is anyone else concerned about the soy in this product? I am concerned. Seems like the manufacturers have not gotten the word on soy. So a good good product can be compromised. However there are ways to counteract the effects of soy with things like DIM. Olushola
CSPain Relief (anti-inflammatory)
Re: CStick - oregano- shinglesI may have posted this before, but I am not sure how many people saw it. I have received amazing relief from long term pain due to a hip injury from a David Williams product called Periva. It is basically an extract of Tumeric and Hops, so it is all natural and you can take it long term with no nasty side effects. You can buy it direct from David William’s site or also from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Williams-Periva-Supplement-capsules/dp/B0083V8R58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1353711634sr=8-1keywords=Periva I take two a day WITH FOOD (don’t take on an empty stomach, tumeric is a powerful spice) and am pain free all day. Everyone is different, but my wife also reports pain relief from this relatively new product, so it is worth a try for those with chronic pain. Del Product Description Clinically shown to quickly, safely, and naturally relieve aches and pains. Let's face it, when you're in pain, you want relief and you want it fast. But you also want something natural that won't have negative effects on your health. Periva is a proprietary blend of two breakthrough natural ingredients that provide fast, effective relief. Perluxan is a unique hops extract containing 30% alpha acids, which have been shown to support the body's natural inflammatory response. Perluxan has been shown in clinical studies to relieve pain quickly. In fact, study participants using Perluxan showed significantly reduced pain in all five movement aspects tested, including walking, lying down, sitting, and going up and down stairs. Meriva is a highly bioavailable form of curcumin, the active ingredient in turmeric. This spice is known for its health promoting properties, but especially for its ability to promote a normal inflammatory response and ease joint and muscle discomfort. The curcumin in Meriva is bound to soy phosphatidylcholine to create a phytosome, which makes it up to 45 times more bioavailable than ordinary curcumin. From: Beth Harrison Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 4:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStick - oregano- shingles Dorothy, This is nowhere near natural-- however my husband has had severe pain with sciatica recently. Been to a chiropractor several times and a massage therapist. We were at a craft show over the weekend and he was limping with the pain. He went to the vendors lounge and laid down on a couch. Someone took pity on him and gave him two naproxyn sodium (Aleve) which he had never taken before, and he got relief! That seems to be the only thing that has helped. That is not a long term remedy for us, assuredly-- but until we can nail down the root cause and a more natural remedy, it has sure given him much needed relief from the acute pain. Beth H Yes I have root canals but not mold. I now have an acute burning sensation in the buttock (lol) but dont know if this is to do with the shingles or a sciatica problem. I do know that even ibuprofen + codeine dont help it whereas that stops the normal stabbing pains from shingles. I was considering the amitriptylene approach which got rid of my fibromyalgie some years ago although I dont want to. I do know that it is extremely painful. By the liposome preparations do you mean Vit C done in lecithin in a sonic unit, because I have the makings of this? dee
CSPain Relief (continued...)
I should have mentioned that I take one Periva with breakfast, and the other with dinner. It is best to spread them out that way. Del
Re: CSMSM
MSM is not a solution for IBS. In fact, it may aggravate it. The solution, based on my experience, is three-fold: 1. Clay – get a high quality clay from this website: http://www.therapy-clays.com/edible-three-clay-blend.php. Start with a teaspoon of clay in four ounces of filtered or purified water twice a day, and increase to as much as a tablespoon in 8oz twice a day. Stir the clay into the water and let it sit for half an hour before drinking. 2. Colon Care – Some people get constipated from clay. Colon Care from Yerba Prima is very gentle, is excellent for the colon in general, prevents constipation, and provides great fiber for colon health. http://www.amazon.com/Yerba-Prima-Colon-Formula-Powder/dp/B0016BJLXO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1353523461sr=8-2keywords=colon+care 3. Live Kefir probiotic – make your own kefir and drink it every day, at least 8 ounces a day. I drink mine in the evening and let it work while I am asleep. You can order kefir grains from Amazon, I did and they work very well. Use organic milk, raw milk if you can get it. We also tried water kefir and Kombucha, but neither of those were near as effective as the kefir. http://www.amazon.com/KEFIR-GRAINS-LIVE-ORGANIC-MILK/dp/B000ZTG4UG/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpcie=UTF8qid=1353523667sr=1-1keywords=kefir+grains We have used the above with great success to deal with lifelong IBS problems. Maybe it will work for you if you give it a chance. Del From: Gary Hilt Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMSM Hey yall: its me again! As you will soon know i have many issues for my young 65 years. i have had a history of IBS and iother gut issues. i recently had a colonoscopy which yielded absolutely no results and yeti still have the problem of chronic diarrhea. So 2 weks ago i started taking MSM 2x a day 1/4 tspn. i was wondering what the ingestion of water should be to the intake of MSM??? i havnt experienced any headaches but neither hae i seen any real results from the MSM. ANy thoughts Thanks gary -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
CSRegarding using DSMSO on Toenails.
I tried a mixture of DMSO and Potassium Iodide (SSKI – See http://tahomaclinicblog.com/iodide/) on toenail fungus. I am pretty sure this would have killed it over time, but there was a problem. The DMSO is such a powerful solvent that, even when I let it air dry, it would leach the dye out of my socks and into my skin. Since I wear mostly black socks, my skin started turning black. I tried to find all white socks, but most of them have gray heals and toes. Besides, I hate white socks (just a matter of color preference, I guess). I finally gave up using that because of this problem. Del From: Shirley Reed Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBrooks' baking soda and DMSO formula Regarding the fungus formula--since the Baking Soda and DMSO account for about half the mixture, what is the other half supposed to be?? I fear that there is something very basic here that I am not understanding so will appreciate a personal reply. The list displays on my computer in a manner that is very hard to navigate and I get discouraged and miss some things. Thanks very much. pj
Re: Paypal, was Re: CSInfo Silver wire
Personally, I will not have any relationship with Paypal, period. In my opinion, they are a bunch of crooks and rip off artists. I have been robbed by them myself, but so have many others. Check out this website: http://www.paypalsucks.com/ If you do business with them, protect yourself!! Don't give them your bank account number. If you give them a credit card number, make sure it has a credit limit you can live with. If you open a cash account with them, keep the balance as small as you can, because it may disappear! Del -Original Message- From: sol Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Paypal, was Re: CSInfo Silver wire No thanks on the paypal.but many online retailers and even ebay now accept regular credit cards through paypal processing without having to open a paypal account. sol Jane MacRoss wrote: A shame everyone doesn't just do PayPal - it seems so convenient Jane CCSilver does not accept a credit card from outside US (and I am in Canada) They will only accept Money orders etc. That creates a lot of back and forth postal correspondencenot worth the time and hassle. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrebounding.
Relative to the large, backyard kind of trampoline, you might want to read the following cautionary article: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/report-warns-trampoline-dangers/story?id=17292265 Del From: Sara Mandal-Joy Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSrebounding. If you do a search you'll find a ton of information, many articles, on both the benefits of rebounding, AND the dangers of rebounding on a mini tramp. On a mini trampoline is a great way to damage your feet, ankles, and knees. DON'T DO IT!!! But there is no better excercise than rebounding on a good rebounder - the kind that usually cost at least 300 bucks and have the right kind of springs and material. I'm not sure how the giant backyard ones measure in this equation - have no experience with them and haven't researched them. Probably, almost certainly, better than the cheap minitramps. But I'm sure there is a range of quality with them as well, some better absorbing and cushioning the stress of the landing than others. Sara Marshall, Some time ago someone on this list gave information on a doctor who advises rebounding but NOT with a mini trampoline. Do you or someone else have his name or the article? Thanks Mary
Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
Wonder if this person was using hydrogen peroxide or other oxidizer? My tongue started turning black when I used a hydrogen peroxide mouth wash for a while. Also when I used gly-oxide drops to swish in my mouth. I looked it up and did find black tongue listed as a possible side effect of oral hydrogen peroxide use. Del From: Neville Munn Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSnebulized silver and black tongue Sounds like if information is hard to get there's probly a lot *NOT* being said? I'd say it's self inflicted by means of which we will in all probability never know. N. Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:13:10 -0700 Subject: Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Unfortunately, the person in question hard to get information from. In the future I hope to get the bottle of whatever he was using and confirm that it was ionic. I won't be able to know if anything was mixed with it though, but if they followed the instructions they were given, they would not have. In any case, you look at your tongue, you see hey it looks a little different, and there is no risk of getting any serious cosmetic problem. You just stop. I also don't know how black the word black actually means or if it is even permanent. Sorry I don't have more details. I am someone distanced from this case. David On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:05 PM, James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com wrote: what ppm? ionic or colloidal silver? What was in the CS? -- From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: CSnebulized silver and black tongue Hi All, FYI, I need to report on a negative result from nebulized EIS. A person nebulized it for lung cancer. He was alternating days with H2O2. He stopped it after his tongue reportedly turned black. His lung tumor also remained unchanged in size. This unfortunately also weights against the few anecdotes we have of lung cancer benefitting from nebulized silver. David
Re: CSProstatitis
Do you take the 160 MG pill (Swanson brand) or the 375 mg mega strength pill from Source Naturals (also sold by Swanson). Del From: Tel Tofflemire Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 2:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSProstatitis Tel Tofflemire From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: CSProstatitis Try - Bata Sitosterol pill, Sold by Swansons , it is quite cheap, and works for most men. One pill per day is what, I take once per day in the morning, otherwise you get up in the night too much. This is the best there is for the mens problem, It's cheap, they don't want you to know about it yet, not till they get the price up more, There are several other companies selling it at 5 x the price. Colloidal Silver helps also, but not as fast ! Tel Tofflemire From: KenChris kcda...@jtt.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: CSProstatitis New here. Researching for hubby. Hubby has recurring prostatitis that comes back every 3-4 months, antibiotic never seems to clear this up. He's not keen on trying silver water and skeptical of it helping. Sounds like a difficult disease to control. Anyone have dosage suggestions and time period of treatment and maintance dose Will try and if it helps at all any suggestions as to a silver maker Thanks Chris -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSkefir
Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
Re: CSrheumatoid arthritis
I'm surprised no one has mentioned LDN. That has proven to be very effective at healing RA according to what I have read. Apparently with very few side effects. Certainly worth a try if you can get a prescription. http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ Del -Original Message- From: Sara Mandal-Joy Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis I've heard the diet path helps many. Didn't seem to make much of a difference for me. In fact, hot red peppers were part of my relief - topically. MSM and DMSO have pretty well relieved my problems though. Sara On 10/30/2011 7:02 AM, PTFerrance wrote: My Aunt had it and when she took all offending foods out of her diet the symptoms went away. When she would slip up and eat something she shouldn’t she would know because it would flare up. For her nightshades and dairy were the worst. PT *From:*Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:52 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a very good friend that has rhumatoid arthritis, and I was wondering if anyone on the llist has had/or does have it and what treatment worked for you? Thanks, Kathy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4584 - Release Date: 10/30/11 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??
You must IMMEDIATELY start a course of Doxycycline (100mg twice a day is the usual recommendation). http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/786767-treatment Not sure how long to stay on it - usually just a few days, I think. Ask your doc. Del -Original Message- From: Judy Knowlton Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 1:20 PM To: Silver list Subject: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease?? I'm returning to you after several years away. I am a believer in the efficacy of CS and use as needed -- donate to friends -- have a Silver Puppy. I have just gotten a tick bite that looked like an ordinary large bug (attached to my leg) but 2 days later it is still red-- and I live in rural Maine. What do you suggest for treatment? Thanks. Relieved to be back! JudyDownMaine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBuying Generator
Gladys: Maybe I can save you some money. Buy yourself a mag stirrer from Ode (Silver Puppy website). http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html Take the stirring stick off the Silvergen and use it with the mag stirrer instead. That’s what I did, and it works great. I also have the Silver Puppy, but currently I mostly use the Silvergen with the mag stirrer and the magnetic beads (hint – when not in use, store the beads in distilled water, and never touch them with your hands – took me a few yellow batches before I learned that). If you can afford it, buy the silver puppy with the mag stirrer, but keep your silvergen as well. Then you can decide which you prefer. In any event, it is good to have a backup unit. Del From: Gladys Williams Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBuying Generator Am set to buy another generator. What's better the Silver Puppy or the Silvergen? Have an old Silvergen and the stirrer keeps falling off. Does the newer model of each have a well secured stirrer? And has anyone heard of the Silver Smart Colloidal Silver Maker? Read this on Tools for Healing: David P. Amrein, the President of Dr. Clark Research Association, has the following to say about the Silver Smart: It took us 18 months to develop the new SILVER SMART. My requirements were clear: a unit that delivers high quality colloidal silver in a known concentration. Especially the latter has proven to be difficult. It became clear that without determining the temperature and the conductivity of the water, a correct value could not be calculated for the concentration of the silver solution. But finally we handled all these road blocks and now the new unit is available and I have seen nothing like it on the
Re: CSCleaning Silver Strips
Just wipe with a folded napkin or Kleenex until you get the black stuff off. That’s about it. Avoid touching with your hands as this will get your skin’s oil on the electrodes and possibly turn a batch yellow. If you get a yellow batch, dampen a napkin with hydrogen peroxide and wipe the electrodes with that – usually takes care of it. Sometimes you have to rinse the jar with hydrogen peroxide and then with distilled water to make sure it is clean. A yellow batch is always due to impurities somewhere. Del From: Kathryn Neff Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCleaning Silver Strips I have just bought a Silvergen machine and am new to CS making.question: when I am finished making the CS it says to wipe off the silver strips... I notice that it does not all come off.I have only made the CS twice..do I need to scrub the strips until they are a clean silver look or just wipe them off and continue... Tks, Kathy Neff
Re: CSSerrapeptase Dosage and My Personal Experience
Systemic enzyme: I don't know what Olushola had in mind, but I think this meets all the requirements: http://drbenkim.com/proteolytic-enzyme-formula.htm Del -Original Message- From: h.godavari Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 7:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSerrapeptase Dosage and My Personal Experience Could you elaborate on, ..a systemic enzyme regards hg olushola camara wrote: You will get even better results if you take it as part of a systematic enzyme. The effect will be synergistic. Olushola -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDIABETES FOOT PROBLEM
Gladys: According to Dr. Whitaker, LDN seems to really help with lymphedema. http://whitakerwellness.com/our-therapies/low-dose-naltrexone/content/story/Improvements-in-Lymphedema.html LDN has been discussed extensively on this list. You can also learn about it here: http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ Del -- Gladys Williams wrote: Hi list--I was recently diagnosed with Diabetes. In addition I have Lower Limb Lymphedema so my legs swell and go back down daily. This has created a very very serious circulation problem in my big toe. Have taken two courses of antibiotics and the toe is very red and has two blisters. I'm really scared, any advice?? Gladys -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT Chemo advice please?
Kirsteen: I am no expert, but I have done a lot of research on cancer for my sister and we have a friend on chemo who has also given us good information. Basically, chemo trashes your immune system, so you have to take supplements that will fortify you. The most important one we have found is IP6-Inositol. Please read this article for information on IP6: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/11/3778S.full Our friend with cancer was told by her doctor to take this while on chemo to keep her immune system working. My wife and I started taking it every day just to strengthen our immune systems, and my health has shown a visible improvement since. For cancer patients, they recommend two scoops of the powder per day, but I can’t tolerate the powder, so I take the capsules – it takes 16 capsules to equal two scoops, but I only take four to eight per day. You should also be taking a minimum of 5000 IU of Vit D3 per day and as much Liposomal C as you can tolerate, which you can buy from Livon Labs or make it yourself according to the Brooks Bradley method (well documented on this list). Here are some resources for those: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/10/what-dose-of-oral-vitamin-d-do-you-need-to-prevent-cancer.aspx http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi144.html You should also consider LDN (low dose naltrexone) to strengthen your immune system, especially as regards lymphedema, since you will have lymph glands removed – see the following: http://whitakerwellness.com/our-therapies/low-dose-naltrexone/content/story/Improvements-in-Lymphedema.html Finally, diet and exercise (if possible) are important. You need to eliminate refined sugar and cut down on carbs. Mercola has a lot of information on this. Hope this helps. Sorry it is so late. Del You should also eat an anti-cancer diet (no sugar, low carbs): From: Kirsteen Wright Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT Chemo advice please? Hi All I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer. Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of the chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with that with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands. Obviously the chemo will make all this worse so is there anything I can take to ease the side effects? Thanks in advance Kirsteen
Re: CSEarlier Post on Domestic Magnetic Fields
Hmmm... Well, I have tested our microwave oven, an older model admittedly, with our RF radiation detector, and the leakage was off the scale of what it could read. Maybe the newer ones are better than that?? I have not tested very many others, since we got the meter for measuring radiation from a nearby cell phone tower, and also to measure the output from an in-house wi-fi and cordless phone. I can tell you that as a result of taking these measurements, we no longer use the microwave, got rid of the wi-fi (all cabled now) and got rid of the cordless phone. We have also taken precautions against EMF (Stetzer units throughout the house) and we are considering whether we can shield against the cell phone tower or if we need to move. Del -Original Message- From: Brooks Bradley Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:51 PM To: Silver-List@eskimo.com Subject: CSEarlier Post on Domestic Magnetic Fields Recently, I received an Off-List email from one of our more erudite technical researchers. The criticism was well-meant... and well-deserved on my part. The gentleman's specific objection was to my inference relating to possible radiation hazard from leakage of the front seal of the microwave. His criticism is quite valid---and deserved. Not because of any devious intent on my partbut, certainly, because my statement appeared WITHOUT any FIRST PERSON data support. My comment was THIRD PERSON commentary, obtained from the writings of Roger Coghill (a Cambridge educated researcher who specializes in the biological effects of magnetic fields. I considered his stated qualifications to be satisfactoryat at the time. My statement relating to the distance interval in front of the microwave, was a direct reference from Mr. Coghill's book on magnets..(data table page 43) given without ancillary comment or consideration of control parameters... Conversely, the gentleman calling me to task...had prosecuted actual tests on microwave ovens, which confirmed the safety (based upon legal requirements) of normally functioning microwave ovens. His FIRST PERSON data revealed only one unit, from many evaluated---that exhibited detectable seal leakage. While quite conversant with most facets of technologies surrounding the generation, distribution and control of microwave energies..I have no direct experience with testing microwave ovensor evaluations of their limitations. I apologize for my shortcomings in this matter. It has, always, been my desire and intent to covey only the truth, as I perceive it, to all on this list. I will endeavor to be more vigilant avoiding such imprecise commentary in any future posts. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSProbiotics
Re: CSProbioticsFor most of her life, my wife has been battling IBS. I always believed that a probiotic should solve the problem. We tried many (including the HSO). Nothing worked. Then we tried VSL#3. IBS gone within about two months on one packet per day. Now she gets it by prescription so that our drug coverage will defray the considerable cost. We think eventually she will be able to stop taking it and still remain stable. If you order it, make sure to order from the company itself so that it will be shipped with ice packs. VSL#3 should always be refrigerated. Del - Original Message - From: Jason R Eaton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:04 AM Subject: CSProbiotics Hi Steve: I'm always playing around with various probies. Sometimes, one must consider how powerful of a porbiotic formula one actsually needs. I'm NOT an expert on the topic, but I do emmensely enjoy the research. Dr. Mercola's probiotics, which contain ten strains, are desigend to survive the digestive tract. These are just your run-of-the-mill probiotics, and a touch pricey, but at least one knows the job will get done. The first of the big guns I play with are HSO's, homeostatic soil organisms, offered by Garden Life under the brand name Primal Defense. These are very controversial little creatures have no problems surviving through the digestive system. These types of organisms have come under fire primarily due to modern science's inability to predict the long term effects of HSO's. However, before disregarding them as potentially profound healing agents, the small scale studies done should be carefully considered. http://www.crohns-disease-probiotics.com/HSOs.html http://miracleii-4u.com/hsos-clinical-studies.htm But my personal favorite probies I make myself, from Effective Microorgansims. THe EM master culture, from Japan, is quite affordable, and is a blend of microorganisms designed as a support system to keep one type of very special microorganism alive: Two strains of photosynthetic bacteria, Rhodopseudomonas palustris and Rhodobacter sphaeroides http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm These amazing little creatures (if you can call them that) don't often appear at the Earth's surface anymore... Not since the Earth's atomosphere began containing oxygen. Every last researcher that I've corresponded with has been nothing short of amazed at the various applications of EM and A-EM. Ongoing research continues: http://emrojapan.com/ ...however, very little has been published in English about the health and healing potential of using EM-based supplements as probiotics. That said, in the worst case scenarios with people I correspond with, when their chronic digestive conditions (and we're talking hospitalization level conditions) respond to nothing else, a combination of EM therapy and clay therapy has, at the very least, stabilized even the most serious cases of IBS, Crohns, and other non- or mis-diagnosed conditions of the lower intestines. Whatever probiotic one chooses, it takes about four weeks to see how they will compete with whatever else is in the colon. When the state of the colon is returned to normal, an individual will always effortlessly go to the bathroom once for every major meal eaten the day prior. So it really depends on what you are trying to accomplish with your supplementation. I also make kombucha on occassion, and use Kefir, but I don't see either as being powerful enough to act to restore serious digestive disorders. Kind Regards, Jason
Re: CSProbiotics
Company website: http://www.vsl3.com/ Del - Original Message - From: PT Ferrance To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:34 PM Subject: Re: CSProbiotics Del, What company would that be? Thanks. PT -- From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 2:38:11 PM Subject: Re: CSProbiotics For most of her life, my wife has been battling IBS. I always believed that a probiotic should solve the problem. We tried many (including the HSO). Nothing worked. Then we tried VSL#3. IBS gone within about two months on one packet per day. Now she gets it by prescription so that our drug coverage will defray the considerable cost. We think eventually she will be able to stop taking it and still remain stable. If you order it, make sure to order from the company itself so that it will be shipped with ice packs. VSL#3 should always be refrigerated. Del - Original Message - From: Jason R Eaton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:04 AM Subject: CSProbiotics Hi Steve: I'm always playing around with various probies. Sometimes, one must consider how powerful of a porbiotic formula one actsually needs. I'm NOT an expert on the topic, but I do emmensely enjoy the research. Dr. Mercola's probiotics, which contain ten strains, are desigend to survive the digestive tract. These are just your run-of-the-mill probiotics, and a touch pricey, but at least one knows the job will get done. The first of the big guns I play with are HSO's, homeostatic soil organisms, offered by Garden Life under the brand name Primal Defense. These are very controversial little creatures have no problems surviving through the digestive system. These types of organisms have come under fire primarily due to modern science's inability to predict the long term effects of HSO's. However, before disregarding them as potentially profound healing agents, the small scale studies done should be carefully considered. http://www.crohns-disease-probiotics.com/HSOs.html http://miracleii-4u.com/hsos-clinical-studies.htm But my personal favorite probies I make myself, from Effective Microorgansims. THe EM master culture, from Japan, is quite affordable, and is a blend of microorganisms designed as a support system to keep one type of very special microorganism alive: Two strains of photosynthetic bacteria, Rhodopseudomonas palustris and Rhodobacter sphaeroides http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm These amazing little creatures (if you can call them that) don't often appear at the Earth's surface anymore... Not since the Earth's atomosphere began containing oxygen. Every last researcher that I've corresponded with has been nothing short of amazed at the various applications of EM and A-EM. Ongoing research continues: http://emrojapan.com/ ...however, very little has been published in English about the health and healing potential of using EM-based supplements as probiotics. That said, in the worst case scenarios with people I correspond with, when their chronic digestive conditions (and we're talking hospitalization level conditions) respond to nothing else, a combination of EM therapy and clay therapy has, at the very least, stabilized even the most serious cases of IBS, Crohns, and other non- or mis-diagnosed conditions of the lower intestines. Whatever probiotic one chooses, it takes about four weeks to see how they will compete with whatever else is in the colon. When the state of the colon is returned to normal, an individual will always effortlessly go to the bathroom once for every major meal eaten the day prior. So it really depends on what you are trying to accomplish with your supplementation. I also make kombucha on occassion, and use Kefir, but I don't see either as being powerful enough to act to restore serious digestive disorders. Kind Regards, Jason
Re: CSEMF pollution question
Some cell phones emit radiation even when not in use (but still turned on). Don't know if yours has that feature. I would not use it as an alarm clock if I were you. Get a cheap alarm clock from the drugstore, that would be better. Del - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 8:45 AM Subject: CSEMF pollution question I use a cell phone that is no longer in service. I use it for a alarm clock, is this safe? Does it still give off frequency that is harmful? Thanks Debbie
Re: CSPlease clarify PET storage bottles!?
I just store the CS in the mason jar I make it in. I have several jars and just keep rotating them. They do not ordinarily need to be cleaned and will not normally contaminate your next batch. If you get deposits on the sides or bottom of the jar, you can try putting some drug store h2o2 in the jar, cover and shake vigorously. Then rinse well with distilled water. You can also scrape with a stainless steel spoon or butter knife. Don't use any soap or other cleaners, they will contaminate. New jars are usually good, but rinse first with distilled water. Use the one piece plastic jar tops, not the two piece metal canning tops. Del - Original Message - From: Kenny laguna To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 3:47 AM Subject: CSPlease clarify PET storage bottles!? Hi, I am new here (obviously!) and have read many post about CS storage. I should have my silvergen sg6 in the mail on Thursday, and I'm a little confused on the proper storage. I gathering they should be PET bottles with the number 1 or 2 in the triangle, correct? Can somebody please tell me a specific type (name brand) of these bottles that you have used with success? Also, how do you clean out a used one of these bottles to make sure it doesn't contaminate a fresh batch of CS? One more question (for now at least, lol!) If i use a new canning jar to make my CS, should the jar be cleaned before i make a batch? How? I'm sorry for i know this has been discussed already, i just cant seem to find where! Thank you all so much!
Re: CSIm new...Hello! A little help please1
Kenny: I did not see if anybody else answered you, so I will try: The dosage size depends. I started out taking teaspoon sized doses and it seemed to help. However, after a while I started using larger doses because the smaller ones did not seem to work anymore. Eventually, to fight off a cold or flu, I would drink two to three cups a day of CS, made with an SG 6 at about 10ppm. This worked for me to drive off colds and such, but eventually made my nail beds darken. Now I only use CS if I feel a problem, a cold or flu, coming on. Instead, on a daily basis, I take ample doses of Vit D3 and Lipo-C. These have kept me cold and flu free so far, my general health has improved, and I reserve CS for emergencies only. My wife burned her finger last week, and sprayed it with CS many times that day - took the pain away and healed nicely. I spray my eyes and face periodically. There are many such uses for CS, but I no longer use it every day. Just follow the instructions for the SG6. Don't touch the electrodes with your fingers when cleaning. I just wipe with a paper towel or napkin. When you attach the stirring stick to the SG6, don't push it in too far or it will bind against the top. If you make a yellow batch, it means there were impurities somewhere on the jar or the electrodes. Have to keep everything clean, but never use soap or other cleaners on bottle or electrodes. You can clean with hydrogen peroxide if necessary. You will learn from experience. Everyone develops their own methods. Del - Original Message - From: Kenny laguna To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:05 PM Subject: CSIm new...Hello! A little help please1 Hi all! For the last year or so, i have used mesosilver and utopia silver, with pos. results. However, it is too expensive! I decided to buy a silvergen sg6 i should have it in a few days. Im sure the daily mainenance dosage is different from the two CS i listed above. Can somebody please give me reccommended dosages for the sg6? I would like to know the dosage amount for colds, stomache bugs, and a preventive dosage. Your help would be greatly appriciated! Also, for those who own the silvergen sg6, i would love any advice, or tips for the unit. Such as, which jars to use, ideal room temperature, and lighting for making a batch? And anything else that may be usefull to a newbi at making CS! Thank you Much!
Re: CSCS: L-Glutathione Lipo
Harold: What brand of L-Glut powder do you use? Del - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald To: Silver list Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: CSCS: L-Glutathione Lipo I use the same procedure for Lipo L-glutathione as Lipo -C. Technique:- Jewelry Cleaner 3 tablespoons of Lecithin in one[1] cup DW. Let sit until all Lecithin is into solution. 1 tablespoon of L-Glutathione powder in one half cup [1/2] of DW. Same mixing procedure as for Lipo-C Harold
CSLiposomal Glutathione
Hi, Is anybody making their own liposomal glutathione? We have had such a positive experience using lipo-C, made according to the Brooks Bradley formula, that we would like to try the lipo-glutathione as well and I was hoping to get a recipe and instructions from somebody who is already doing it. We are concentrating lately on supplements that enhance the immune system. One that we have had great success with is IP-6 Inositol. While this is known primarily as a cancer fighter (http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/11/3778S.full) it is also a powerful immune system booster and has many beneficial effects with no reports yet of any negative ones of any significance. I take the pill (4 in the morning and 4 at night, on an empty stomach) because something in the IP-6 powder has a bad effect on my intestines - the pill has no such effect, so I know it is something else in the powder, probably the stevia, which I can't tolerate. Of course, we take five thousand units a day of Vit-D3. We like supplements that work right away. We saw immediate benefits from the IP-6, and even more dramatic benefits from the lipo-C. We have tried others, such as Beta-glucan, with no noticeable result, so we discontinued. thanks, Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Lipo C encapsulation technique
Would you or anyone else in the group know of a reason, I could skip adding the bicarb and just start with sodium ascorbate, vs citric acid? I'm a big confused on when a person would want citric acid vs ascorbate. Thank you, Lin When making Lipo C, we only use sodium ascorbate. The reason is given in the post below. With that said, I guess combining ascorbic acid and sodium bicarb would give you the same thing. But I would rather just buy the socium ascorbate. Del From Les Nachman, VP of Research and Development at LivOn Labs: Thank you for your inquiry regarding ascorbic acid and our use of sodium ascorbate in the Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C. You're quite right, gastric juices have no effect on properly liposomed molecules regardless of chemical composition. The problem with using plain ascorbic acid resides in the blood, not the stomach. Large doses of pure ascorbic acid in the blood can induce acidosis, an increased hydrogen ion concentration in the blood plasma. This increased acidity condition can result in a plethora of highly dangerous conditions such as diabetic ketoacidosis , respiratory acidosis, metabolic acidosis, renal tubular acidosis, anion gap acidosis, cellular acidosis, and the list goes on. Virtually all of these conditions, if not treated, can lead to death. This is why no medical professional uses straight ascorbic acid when giving an IV-Vitamin C infusion. When taken orally, ascorbic acid in small amounts can be tolerated in most cases. Although diabetics and folks with kidney problems should not take straight ascorbic acid. Which leads us to our product and the answer to your question. Many of our customers are accustomed to taking multiple gram doses at one time, several times a day. On several occasions, I myself have taken 30 grams in one day. Sodium ascorbate is proven safe at 10 times 30 grams and even more in a 24 hour period, and so we use it with confidence in the Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C. Best regards, Les Nachman
Re: CSFOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978
You can download the pdf file here: http://advancedsilver.com/third_party_silver_info/Science_Digest_March_1978.pdf Del - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:53 AM Subject: Re: CSFOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: My librarian friend secured a scan of the original for me of “Our Mightiest Germ Fighter” from Science Digest, March 1978. If anyone wants a copy as a pdf file, email me and I’ll send it to you. That would be fantastic - thanks Kirsteen
Re: CSPlantar fasciitis, was DMSO, to Lisa
I use Thieves Oil from Young Living (yes, I know, people don't like them, but their oils are good). Clove oil is a main ingredient. I have used it internally many times with no problems. Put some drops in my mouth (burns), swish until mixed with saliva, and swallow. Strong odor of clove for a while. I wonder if this would also give pain relief if applied externally?? Del - Original Message - From: needling around To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: Re: CSPlantar fasciitis, was DMSO, to Lisa The clove oil can create a herx if you are carrying something because it is a powerful anti-microbial. It is one of the oils supposedly used by grave robbers during the bubonic plague to keep them protected from the disease. If you use any homeopathics it will antidote them. Doesn't the M2 gel have a lot of magnesium in it? That could also be helping to relax your tissues. You might want to look at a shoe insert that holds your arches properly as 'foot fatigue' can contribute to plantar fasciitis as well. Thanks for sharing this. PT - Original Message - From: rans...@atmc.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:20 AM Subject: CSPlantar fasciitis, was DMSO, to Lisa So are you saying that using oil of cloves rubbed on one's foot for plantar fasciitis will help relieve the pain (with the possibility of a brief bout of painful urination)? Yes. I am using the Oil of Cloves from www.studioproducts.com, actually sold as a fine art paint additive. They sent me a bottle to try with an order of their triple distilled turpentine. I asked around what it was good for and Chuck told me that it was good for the kind of pain like being hit in the face with a brick;) Well that was a pretty good description of my foot pain sometimes so I rubbed some on and began to get immediate relief. To cut it all short, I found out that it worked as good and dried faster when mixed with Miracle II Neutralizer Gel. Just cover the bottom of a shot glass with M2 Neut Gel, add a FEW drops of Clove oil, mix with finger until emulsified, and apply to foot. Warning: Any infections in the body will begin dying. I still get a very mild reaction in my right sinus and upper jaw joint area from it. The first urination after application may burn. That can happen within 30 seconds. Clove oil goes through the skin and throughout the body as fast as or faster than DMSO but it smells good and you don't taste it. Anything else you used specifically for the PF? A grounding pad at my feet as I sleep, and 2 of Peter Kulish's regular magnets, in a sock, one one each side of foot, green side in. I have tired many other things including many rubbings with DMSO and took lots of various and sundry superfoods and supplements including recently a lot of Knox gelatin but nothing gave me the pain relief that I got from Oil of Cloves. I do think though that the magnets and grounding add much to the actual healing, but do not give the pain relief of the Clove oil. Wash hands afterward. Do NOT get Clove oil in eyes! DaddyBob
Re: CSDeodorant
You can also make your own if you purchase a bottle of GSE. Dilute with distilled water 5 or 6 parts DW to one part GSE in an 8 ounce spray bottle. Spray on and massage into skin. Good for entire day, or more if you don't shower. Del - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:47 AM Subject: Re: CSDeodorant This is what I found G. The one I got is from Now Products and I got it from iHerb and it is just called Long lasting Deodorant and is all natural. It is a cream and doesn't stain and you only have to apply every two or three days--washing normally too. dee On 11 Oct 2010, at 14:53, Gladys Williams wrote: Hi Dee--What is the name of your deodorant wtih grapeseed ext? Baking soda burns my underarms. The Thai Stone makes a horrible rash under my arms. I have to rotate regular deodorants because they also end up making a rash under my arms. CS is very wet and drippy and only lasts for about 4 hours, then must be re-applied. Thank you in advance. G On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Well, I tried CS but it doesn't last long. The deodorant I use uses grapeseed extract which works really well. It is cheap and you only have to use it every three days so it lasts forever. dee On 11 Oct 2010, at 07:31, Bethany Methven wrote: Has anyone ever played around with making a deordorant with ICS? If you could find a good base, doesn't it seem that the ICS would keep the odor causing bacteria from becoming a problem throughout the day? I would LOVE some feedback on this. Thanks - Bethany -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeodorant
Interesting that the product Dee uses also contains 20% zinc oxide, the stuff I am using now. That appears to be its main odor fighting ingredient. Also contains GSE, not sure what percentage. Del - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:47 AM Subject: Re: CSDeodorant This is what I found G. The one I got is from Now Products and I got it from iHerb and it is just called Long lasting Deodorant and is all natural. It is a cream and doesn't stain and you only have to apply every two or three days--washing normally too. dee On 11 Oct 2010, at 14:53, Gladys Williams wrote: Hi Dee--What is the name of your deodorant wtih grapeseed ext? Baking soda burns my underarms. The Thai Stone makes a horrible rash under my arms. I have to rotate regular deodorants because they also end up making a rash under my arms. CS is very wet and drippy and only lasts for about 4 hours, then must be re-applied. Thank you in advance. G On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Well, I tried CS but it doesn't last long. The deodorant I use uses grapeseed extract which works really well. It is cheap and you only have to use it every three days so it lasts forever. dee On 11 Oct 2010, at 07:31, Bethany Methven wrote: Has anyone ever played around with making a deordorant with ICS? If you could find a good base, doesn't it seem that the ICS would keep the odor causing bacteria from becoming a problem throughout the day? I would LOVE some feedback on this. Thanks - Bethany -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeodorant
Well, the recommendation came from Jonathan Wright, and he thought it was a really good thing to get the extra zinc into your system. Remember, they smear this on babies bottoms all the time. Doesn't hurt them any that I know of. Del - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:34 PM Subject: Re: CSDeodorant Hi Del, I've been thinking about your post. Do you know how absorbable the zinc is in zinc oxide? If used every day I might be concerned with overdosing zinc. Does anyone know if that is a problem? Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:53 PM Subject: CSDeodorant I thought I would pass this along in case anyone is still looking for an effective, cheap, and non-irritating deodorant. I was using GSE mixed with distilled water as a spray. This worked well, but GSE is starting to get very expensive. So I switched just recently to Zinc Oxide ointment. Right, the stuff that is used for diaper rash. It is cheap, non-irritating, and works great. Just smear a small dab under each arm in the morning and you are good to go. At least that has been my experience. Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeodorant
Dee, you and me both. The stone irritated my skin after only a couple of days of use. Del - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: Re: CSDeodorant I got a really bad rash from this. dee On 10 Oct 2010, at 14:38, Deborah Gerard wrote: I use the crystal stone.works great and lasts forever, Deb From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 8:17:54 AM Subject: Re: CSDeodorant -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDeodorant
I thought I would pass this along in case anyone is still looking for an effective, cheap, and non-irritating deodorant. I was using GSE mixed with distilled water as a spray. This worked well, but GSE is starting to get very expensive. So I switched just recently to Zinc Oxide ointment. Right, the stuff that is used for diaper rash. It is cheap, non-irritating, and works great. Just smear a small dab under each arm in the morning and you are good to go. At least that has been my experience. Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeodorant What is GSE ???
GSE worked well, but has become too expensive to purchase on a regular basis, that is why I switched to Zinc Oxide Ointment, a tube of which sells for less than three dollars, usually.. I have tried colloidal silver, but it did not keep me odor free. Everything else I have tried resulted in underarm rash. Del - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:40 PM Subject: Re: CSDeodorant What is GSE ??? grapefruit seed extract--although I think some call it GFSE. dee On 7 Oct 2010, at 19:23, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/7/2010 1:55:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, d...@deetroy.org writes: I have a wonderful one too--it is from Now Products and is called Now long lasting deodorant and it is all natural and lasts forever. The ingredient is also GSE. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeodorant
No. You massage it into the skin. Only use a small amount. Del - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: CSDeodorant Doesn't it leave a white mark on your clothing? PT - Original Message - From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:53 PM Subject: CSDeodorant I thought I would pass this along in case anyone is still looking for an effective, cheap, and non-irritating deodorant. I was using GSE mixed with distilled water as a spray. This worked well, but GSE is starting to get very expensive. So I switched just recently to Zinc Oxide ointment. Right, the stuff that is used for diaper rash. It is cheap, non-irritating, and works great. Just smear a small dab under each arm in the morning and you are good to go. At least that has been my experience. Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase
I would like to mention that I have just begun taking serrapeptase (about 160,000 units per day - Doctor's Best) in hopes that it will reduce or cure my sinus problems. I have always had constant post-nasal drip, and as I get older it is increasing. This is especially bad for me as a singer, as the mucus frequently tangles around my vocal cords. My wife told a friend to take serrapeptase for her arthritis (don't know why, haven't heard that it does anything for arthritis). After a year, the friend told her that it had not helped her arthritis, but had cleared up her sinus problems. Here's hoping! Del - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase On 10/4/2010 3:29 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/4/2010 3:15:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall *How much serrapeptase should one take ??? Lois* I would take no more than 200,000 a day until they are clean, to give the body time to strengthen the vessels as the plaque is removed, and to also to prevent large chunks from breaking off. Once the veins are clear, probably a month unless you have some virtually totally blocked veins, drop it to maybe 40,000 every day or probably every few days to keep them clean. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Implants-materials/kinds/questions to ask
I lost all my teeth due to weak enamel, an early sugar habit, and bad (very bad) dentistry. I have had them replaced with titanium implant supported bridges. I have quite a few implants, both top and bottom. All the surgery was difficult, but once healed they have not given me one minute of trouble. Is there risk involved? Certainly, but I decided that the risk involved in NOT doing it was worse. You have to weigh your risks in life. Having a real expert in placing implants is the most important thing. I had a terrific periodontist to work with. By the way, I refused to do anything like nerve relocation or sinus lift. They love to do that stuff, but you don't really need it. I only take so many risks. You still have to clean and brush the implants to avoid biofilms, just like with regular teeth. It took a while to get used to the bridges, but they are much easier to adapt to than dentures, which I never considered doing. They only real damage that I suffered from all this was strictly financial. This stuff is EXPENSIVE! Many thousands of dollars of our savings. But you only live once, right, and I need to go on chewing. Del - Original Message - From: carolG To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 12:49 AM Subject: Re: CSOT: Implants-materials/kinds/questions to ask HI BOB, Sorry to hear of your pain. I just met a vet last night at a Festival who I was telling about my dog's lupus recovery. She told me she used to be in so much pain in her back, I believe. She did acupuncture once, healed, and hooked. She went on to help dogs using acupuncture. If you haven't tried, like anything else in life--there are always good and bad practitioners. I am running against options for my teeth. I have SEVERAL crowns which never were a problem, but never wanted either. Weighed all options before a yes. Now I have big spaces obvious for pictures and crowns were put in about 3 years ago and some keep falling out. If dentist can't reglue I am running against options. I know having more front spaces is not very inviting as I plan to go out and meet people for business sake. -- From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 10:25:32 PM Subject: Re: CSOT: Implants-materials/kinds/questions to ask carol, There are no safe implants. ALL dental procedures have risks... BIG ONES. Every time you get an anesthetic injection you are risking a permanent paresthesia/dysesthesia (nerve damage to the lingual or IAN nerve) that is horrific... I suffer from lingual nerve damage so I know. The rest of my life is one of pain and suffering... burning pain to be exact. Not something you want if at all possible. Bob - Original Message - From: carolG To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:01 PM Subject: CSOT: Implants-materials/kinds/questions to ask Hi all, Maybe off topic...who knows. History of bad teeth, several crowns got loose and today another one popped out into mouth and holding it. If he can't put this back in as it is always a challenge, here's questions: Kind of safe implants Questions to ask dentist What materials are good vs. bad for implants? This is ongoing problem-genetic vs. unhealthy eating. Frustrating as my dentist doesn't want to act like a traveling dentist. Just when I think all is cool and I won't see him for a while I am back. carol, mom to the recovered LUPUS doggie, Molly..now 11...almost year since biopsy..progressive case...
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Re: CSRe: CS Rods
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Re: CSTick Bite
Ode: What would you consider pretty quickly. We figure she found it between 24 and 48 hrs after being bitten on the inner thigh (looks like they always go for the tender spots).. Del - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 5:43 AM Subject: Re: CSTick Bite If you get the tick off pretty quick, there is little chance of any problems. I get tick bit about every 2 weeks and find one looking for a spot every few days. Do the tick search daily if not twice a day. I'd never be OFF ABX if I assumed the worst every time. Ode At 11:29 PM 7/4/2010 -0400, you wrote: Does she have a bulls-eye? I know this is an alternative list but in this case I would consider a dose of the appropriate antibiotics if it were me. PT - Original Message - From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:31 PM Subject: CSTick Bite Hi: My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world. Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to deal with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme? My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to eliminate, but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme. There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe that, she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many Lyme articles I have already read, none of which were targeted at what to do right away if bitten. We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT covered by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be reliable. Anybody know about that? Thanks, Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTick Bite
Rowena: Thanks for all your information. I have forwarded it to Jane. It will take a while to absorb. Thanks to all others who have responded. She was back home within 48 hrs of being bitten, and the doc here immediately put her on Doxycycline, 100 mg twice a day for 3 days. According to some postings, that should be continued for more days. She is also using some colloidal silver, which she does not like to use because it previously turned her cuticles silvery gray. I am trying to persuade her to use my olive leaf, oregano oil combination (which I take twice a day) - she is a bit fearful of that because I had such strong detox symptoms when I first started using it. The Salt/C protocol may be too strong for her. She is very sensitive to all meds and supplements. However, she has not reacted to the Doxy yet. I have a Godzilla zapper from V. We also have the therapik, but my understanding is, it is only useful if you get the bite right away. She has already tried the Bentonite clay (with apple cider vinegar I believe). I will have her do more of that. I had a really itchy mosquito bite a few days ago, was driving me nuts, and an application of bentonite clay took the itch away within minutes, and it never came back. That stuff really works. Del - Original Message - From: Rowena To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:13 AM Subject: Re: CSTick Bite Google Salt and C protocol. Real salt not table salt, or Himalayan, or the chemist's stuff, though I would prefer Himalayan. Might be a bit late to put salt, CS, etc. on the entry wound, but still worth doing. Rowena On 5/07/2010 10:31 AM, Del wrote: Hi: My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world. Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to deal with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme? My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to eliminate, but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme. There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe that, she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many Lyme articles I have already read, none of which were targeted at what to do right away if bitten. We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT covered by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be reliable. Anybody know about that? Thanks, Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTick Bite
Hi: My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world. Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to deal with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme? My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to eliminate, but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme. There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe that, she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many Lyme articles I have already read, none of which were targeted at what to do right away if bitten. We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT covered by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be reliable. Anybody know about that? Thanks, Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStaph help
Get some wild oregano oil and apply externally, and take internally (follow directions): http://www.doctorajadams.com/OilOfOregano.html Del - Original Message - From: Dawn Ruhl To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: CSStaph help I don't post much, and am looking for help with Staph infection. Started out as a Brown Recluse bite, which homeopathy was helping until I was slammed in the area and literally knocked out for I don't know how long. It was lanced with a 3 day stay in the hospital, and I don't ever want to go back. I use CS regularly, although not daily, and sure could use some help with this. Thanks! Dawn Don't look down on anybody unless you are helping to pick them up...
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
Sol: If you want to use CS (your own solution) then you need a Grossan irrigator tip for your water pik. Don't try it without the proper implement, which can be found here: http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/servlet/ethicare_com/Categories Make sure it will fit your model waterpik. Another option that we have used is a pressurized nasal spray: We really like this one: http://www.drugstore.com/qxp179975_333181_sespider_1_1/ocean/ultra_sterile_saline_nasal_mist.htm It contains Ringer's Solution and does a great job of flushing out your sinus passages. It is pressurized, so you don't need to squeeze it, just depress the irrigator. You can get quite a few sprays out of it before it is exhausted. Just be careful not to spray in your eyes. It keeps coming out for a little while after you release it. This or something like it may be found in your local drug store. Del - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: CSsinus infection/sinus washing Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: Anyone ever used a dental irrigator at very low flow in place of a neti pot? Is it adviseable (or perhaps dangerous?) to add a tiny drop of essential oil of oregano to the wash water Neuropathy in my fingers and hands from the damaged discs prevents me typing very long, and also can't sit at the screen very long, so I'm asking here for help and ideas instead of searching archives, which I just can't do right now. Anybody got any better ideas for ways I can get an effective thorough sinus wash with a bum neck? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vit C absorbability vs. sodium ascorbate
Do you purchase sodium ascorbate or make it yourself? Del - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:28 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vit C absorbability vs. sodium ascorbate Brooks recommends sodium ascorbate to be used with LET Vit C. This is what I use and it tastes better than the ascorbic acid. Besides, bicarb has other alkalising uses in the body. dee On 24 Jun 2010, at 21:30, Silver Smith wrote: I have read that Vit C (ascorbic acid) when mixed with Baking Soda will form sodium ascorbate that is supposedly more absorbable than Vit C. I read that Linus Pauling took his Vit C that way. See sources below. My questions are: 1. Is this true? 2. If so, how does the absorbability of sodium ascorbate compare to LET-Vit C? 3. What does the LET-Vit C do that the sodium ascorbate can't do? Thanks, SS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow did we ever get here on this subject?
Malcolm: I completely agree with you. I tried to bring the discussion back onto a scientific basis on the ot list, but pretty much got dumped on. I was told that science is evil and just a weapon to control people. I did not want to start a long running argument over this because it was obvious to me that pretty much anything I said would be dismissed out of hand. I have been in those kinds of discussions before and find that they are not productive of any meaningful results. The bottom line is that the belief system must be defended at all costs and anything contrary is immediately vilified. I hope Mike will do a better job of confining these things to the off topic list. Otherwise, the silver list may become a place for believers only. Del - Original Message - From: Malcolm s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: RE: CSHow did we ever get here on this subject? Hi Steve, Dan's fine with me; I was surprised by his comment though and it was not directed at you IMNSHO. I'm much more concerned with the drift that this is becoming a 'Believer's' forum and that someone who resorts to arcane and unavailable 'proof' such as calibration which, note, is used as a weapon as much as a sign of cosmic - and note that - approval of rectitude, is making this his own fiefdom. If you bother with the list of definitions in the new oxford dictionary, and I haven't yet in this case but I'm familiar with the style, and then observe Boddhi's highly selective usage and his jump from skeptic to '-ism', - again a highly selective and so-illustrated pejorative usage, - you may detect a strong desire to control the conversation and beliefs of others. I do, having been trained in English and rhetoric at the graduate level. I despise it, and though I find all this stuff about dowsing, demons and other disembodied entities interesting, I find Boddhi's use of it to further his control of a clacque disgusting. Well, that's my problem. Take care, Malcolm You can tell English majors by the convolution of their sentences. g On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 08:42 -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: Malcolm, I just want to say that I took no offense at Dan's comment but just wanted to point out that many of us are skeptics some if the time. I have a high regard for Dan and consider his posts valuable. I can say the same for Bodhi, although I may not completely share all his beliefs. BTW, not sharing all his beliefs does not mean that he is wrong, only that perhaps I have not yet had the opportunity to develop my own experiences that would support those beliefs. I have many opinions but I consider many of them as opinions du jour. Tomorrow I may learn something new that causes me to revise my opinion on something. Who knows? Best Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:07 AM To: Norton, Steve Subject: RE: CSHow did we ever get here on this subject? Hi Steve, I'd expect you're right, you are considerably more mild-mannered about this than I feel; it hasn't been Dan so much as Boddhi who has begun to impose linguistic correctness upon us; the guy is an egotist and a rhetor. Look out!! You Can be Calibrated: Ve haff vays to Make you Calibrated! Ziss vill teach you not to be skeptical vit Mee! But no, you're definitely not a Dumb-ass. I think his veneer may be cracking as he swells, though. . . . Your subject-line question, that's truly an interesting one! Oh well. Take care, Malcolm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDigest V2010 #591/Liposomal Vitamin C
Nenah: Did you get the raw sunflower lecithin to work? I bought some of that too, and it is so thick and gummy I wonder how to dissolve it? Tastes great, though. Del - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: RE: CSDigest V2010 #591/Liposomal Vitamin C [Dick Rochon] I just received an email from Dr. Levy in reply to a question I asked him about lecithin and vitamin C. He said that he doubted my jewelry cleaner would encapsulate Vitamin C, as is necessary to receive the benefits. Who devised the procedure of using the jewelry cleaner, and what assurance is there that it is actually encapsulating the vitamin C? It tastes bad, so it must be good. Right? = Dick, Brooks Bradley did extensive research on this and I trust his conclusions. My limited experience with this procedure is that it works. Even using liquid lecithin, I was able to consume much more Vitamin C powder without bowel irritation than I would have been able to without encapsulating it in lecithin first. Nenah
Re: CSDigest V2010 #591/Liposomal Vitamin C
This is what we use, usually: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NWF133/ItemDetail Del - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: RE: CSDigest V2010 #591/Liposomal Vitamin C Did you get the raw sunflower lecithin to work? I bought some of that too, and it is so thick and gummy I wonder how to dissolve it? Tastes great, though. Del == Yeah, I kind of got it to work. I have made two batches so far. In the first batch, all the lumps/strings dissolved after about a day or so in the frig. With the second batch, there were some heavier solids that separated, but I still feel I derived some benefit. I decided that to maximize my efforts, I should really get soy lecithin, as long as it wasn't made from GMOs. (Sunflower lecithin is only made in liquids so far.) So I went to Whole Foods. The price was shocking-over $20 for one pound! So I'll have to order it from someplace. Anyone have a less expensive product that's NOT GMO that they can recommend? By the way, the liquid lecithin won't go to waste. It can be mixed in with peanut butter or anything else fatty and it helps emulsify it. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com
Re: CSot: Car Ionizer, once in a lifetime deal.
How do you set them up for use in the house? One in each room, or some other pattern? I would assume if you only have one, you would put it in the bedroom? Do they run continuously? Are they silent? Do they emit ozone? How much? The following is an interesting article on air ionisers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ionizer Del - Original Message - From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com To: lyme_r...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:22 PM Subject: CSot: Car Ionizer, once in a lifetime deal. Folks, I have been testing ionizers of all types for a long time. Virtually every ionizer I purchased for the home, didn't actually put out negative ions! In fact, some of them didn't put out anything, and some of these were from major companies, Sunbeam, etc. Others, that supposedly work, were what I consider excessively priced (over $100). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEnzyme Update - OT
The bacteria are already in the water - they just need some nutrients to encourage them to eat the oil. However, they use up oxygen and can cause other species to die off, as well as algal blooms. http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-human-condition/2010/05/04/oil-spill-answers-are-we-going-to-use-microbes-to-destroy-the-oil-if-so-how-would-that-work.html Del - Original Message - From: Kathryn Clayton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: Re: CSEnzyme Update - OT In oil spill cleanup, they can use several different organisms to eat the oil. The first time it was tried out was with the Exxon Valdez tanker accident. Now they probably have many more of them. In fact, the first biological organism that was able to get a patent was engineered to do just that- help clean up oil spills. I believe it was a guy at Bell Labs, if my memory serves. kathryn On Jun 10, 2010, at 3:21 PM, ted mozell wrote: Hey Steve, Why the hell don't they use the oil one over in the gulf for the monster clean up Ted On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: A quick update on my forage into enzymes. In my first post I referenced a patent regarding the use of enzymes as a pesticide. The patent mentioned Bacto-Zyme as a preferred source of enzymes. In my second post I mentione
Re: CSIncrease shelf life on Milk (UNCLASSIFIED)
Maybe for pasteurized milk this is ok, but I only drink raw milk and it is my understanding that this will kill the beneficial microbes in the raw milk. Del - Original Message - From: zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:13 AM Subject: Re: CSIncrease shelf life on Milk (UNCLASSIFIED) I increase my shelf life on milk by putting CS in the milk. Normally I do not drink up my milk before it goes bad. This would be a great way to give CS to anyone. I just put in an ounce or 2, how much is up to you. You could put 8 ounce in and whenever the kids drink milk They would get a dose of CS. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Great idea Bob. I use organic milk it has a longer shelf life than the other milk. I wonder how much longer it would last with the CS (EIS). Lois
Re: CSRe: CS Where to get edible camphor ?? Steve
Camphor - be very, very careful And make sure you know what you are doing: http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/pharm/camphor.htm#PartTitle:1.%20NAME Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver rods
If necessary, you can clean the rods with drug store hydrogen peroxide on a folded Kleenex. That is what I do and it (usually) works. Del - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: CSsilver rods I thought I would update everyone on the saga of my weird results since using the melamine pad on the silver rods. I cleaned them using H202 and then distilled water, but the CS still took seven hours or so and the generator wouldn't turn off and the CS ppm measured only 4 (using a TDS) I then put the rods into the sonic cleaner which I bought to make the liposomal Vit C and you could see the cloud of grey float off of the rods. However, the CS still wasn't right i.e. it was still taking hours and hours to do and then going yellow. I then decided to try direct current instead of using reverse polarity and I got all this ghostly filaments like ectoplasm is said to be. Again, this went yellow and when I put in some home-made 3% H202 it went a murky green/grey. After putting in more and more H202 it finally went sort of silvery with very little tyndall and loads of air bubbles. The ppm was then 3. Finally, I decided to give up with those rods and have had to use my new ones. The result is perfect, clear CS about 8 to 10ppm. Moral of story: dont use melamine pads on silver rods! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis
I had a similar problem on the underside of wrist and realized I was flirting with carpal tunnel syndrome. Does it hurt to put pressure on your fingers? I cured it with DMSO (70%) over which I put a generous layer of Topricin Cream. Did this at least two, three times a day. Highly recommend the Topricin with DMSO. Topricin is designed for carpal tunnel and stops the DMSO from itching. Also cured tennis elbow (bad case!) that same way. Don't know much about the laser treatment, I'm interested in learning about that myself. Del - Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:32 PM Subject: Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis I tried the DMSO and laser on my joint where the hand meets the wrist at the thumb (have some bony abnormalities there.) I held the laser a couple inches away. It was very bright and I was wondering if I should wear protective eye covering or not. It seemed to sting a little. Should I hold the laser right up against the skin? Having some kind of problem on that whole underside of the wrist, sensitive skin and pain inside on lateral side right where the hand joins the wrist. I've tried to make sure I'm not using the computer differently ...keeping hand and arm aligned, etc. I've used plain DMSO on it a couple times, but can't really tell if it helps. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPFOA Free Cookware
Well, Teflon is made with PFOA as the solvent I believe, to dissolve the PTFE into a form that can be coated onto a pot or pan. The pan is then heated to some high temperature to cook off the PFOA (into the atmosphere), leaving behind the PTFE non-stick coating, which, as you indicate, is very inert up to about 600 degrees. I believe the problem with Teflon is that not ALL the PFOA is gone and cooking continues to release small amounts of it into the air of your kitchen. Also, over time, some of the less durable Teflon coatings tend to wear off into your food, especially if you use metal implements. Anyway, I believe the Hydrolon coating on the Ecolutions cookware is supposed to be water based so manufacture does less damage to the environment when they cook/finish the product, and there is zero danger of releasing PFOA into your home air. Of course, I have also read that at this point, we all have PFOA in our blood stream even if we don't use Teflon cookware because so much of it has already been released into the environment. Anyway, there are probably other, better choices for PFOA free non-stick cookware, like ScanPan which is ceramic over aluminum, but those cost 80 to 100 dollars for a small frying pan and my penurious instincts simply will not allow me to spend that much for a small frying pan, even though I probably waste twice that on occasion on totally useless gadgets (just spent $100 to have the rear seat cup holder in my Legacy station wagon replaced - go figure!) Del - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: Re: CSPFOA Free Cookware Unless you heat teflon up to around 600 degrees F which makes your food into smoking charcoal, it's about as inert to everything as anything gets. You may as well worry about eating silica sand. No more picnics at the beach, ya know. Ode At 03:36 PM 5/13/2010 -0400, you wrote: Hi: Does anybody know if being PFOA free makes this non-stick cookware safe to use: http://www.ecolutionhome.com/pofa.html My wife wants me to evaluate it because it is inexpensive and we currently have no non-stick cookware (use stainless steel with aluminum core instead). I have researched it, but only come up with the fact that their process is water based rather than POFA based, which is supposed to eliminate the main problem with Teflon cookware. Because it is water based they call it Hydrolon (clever, huh?). I assume the non-stick material is still a fluorocarbon solid called PTFE, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene) but I have not been able to verify this (but what else would it be?). If so, that would still be of concern as the material dispersed into your food over time, would it not? Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPFOA Free Cookware
We used cast iron when we were younger, but now my wife has trouble hefting the pots and pans they are so heavy. Cook well though. Del - Original Message - From: Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:40 AM Subject: Re: CSPFOA Free Cookware I'm not spending much time at the computer these days, so haven't kept up with much of this thread. Someone else may have mentioned it, but had you thought of cast iron? Used extensively or at high heat, you will get iron in your food (which for some can be a good thing, for others not, especially if they are exclusively using cast iron cookware), but for a breakfast fry pan nothing can beat cast iron, assuming it is well proofed. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPFOA Free Cookware
Thanks, Nenah, this looks like a really good alternative. Del - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:22 AM Subject: RE: CSPFOA Free Cookware I bought an 11 SafePan Eco-Nonstick Frypan on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002R1ID3G/ref=oss_product and really like it. You have to use a little oil to season it but it works pretty well. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com
CSPFOA Free Cookware
Hi: Does anybody know if being PFOA free makes this non-stick cookware safe to use: http://www.ecolutionhome.com/pofa.html My wife wants me to evaluate it because it is inexpensive and we currently have no non-stick cookware (use stainless steel with aluminum core instead). I have researched it, but only come up with the fact that their process is water based rather than POFA based, which is supposed to eliminate the main problem with Teflon cookware. Because it is water based they call it Hydrolon (clever, huh?). I assume the non-stick material is still a fluorocarbon solid called PTFE, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene) but I have not been able to verify this (but what else would it be?). If so, that would still be of concern as the material dispersed into your food over time, would it not? Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPFOA Free Cookware
Garrick: That's exactly what I want it for - frying and scrambling eggs from free running chickens - and cooking Vermont made, nitrate and nitrite free, bacon and sausage from organically raised, hormone free pork. When I do this on stainless steel, the eggs always stick, no matter how much butter or coconut or olive oil I use, and the sausages stick too. I'm not much of a cook, so I usually end up making a mess. That's about the only time I would use it. And I only need the small frying pan. Think I will give it a try. It claims to be totally stable up to 600 degrees. That's a lot hotter than my gas burners ever get. Del - Original Message - From: Garrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:25 PM Subject: Re: CSPFOA Free Cookware That stuff looks better that TeflonBut still any plastic will put off molecules under heat. I would use it for frying eggs. But what's really the point of non-stick cookware for other purposes? I guess it saves ten seconds oiling up a casserole dish or something like that. Why would anyone microwave TV dinners in plastic dishes? That's asking for trouble. For years I've been disgusted watching people drink blazing hot coffee out of Styrofoam cups. Not once in my life have I done that. And I'll bet hot black coffee is a pretty decent dissolver of Styrofoam. I went to a Chinese buffet where the foods sat on saran wrap that lined the steaming traysthe trays that keep the food hot. I won't be going back there. Life is too short to eat hot foods that are cooked in plastic or merely steaming in plastic g __ _ On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: Hi: Does anybody know if being PFOA free makes this non-stick cookware safe to use: http://www.ecolutionhome.com/pofa.html My wife wants me to evaluate it because it is inexpensive and we currently have no non-stick cookware (use stainless steel with aluminum core instead). I have researched it, but only come up with the fact that their process is water based rather than POFA based, which is supposed to eliminate the main problem with Teflon cookware. Because it is water based they call it Hydrolon (clever, huh?). I assume the non-stick material is still a fluorocarbon solid called PTFE, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene) but I have not been able to verify this (but what else would it be?). If so, that would still be of concern as the material dispersed into your food over time, would it not? Del
Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial
How much were you taking? Del - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial Hi, I have read several times that the commercially prepared liposomal Vit C will not create bowel issues. I'm here to tell you that is not true. I have had this happen several times. Each time I backed off the Livon product and then reintroduced it again some days later... eventually it happened again. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeodorant
Yes, I had the same reaction to the stones, crystal, and also to all commercial deodorants: break out in a red rash after a few days use. Then I found that I could make an excellent deodorant from GSE (Grapefruit Seed Extract). I fill a spray bottle with about one fifth GSE and four fifths distilled water. You may have to experiment a bit to find the best ratio for you. Shake it up to dissolve the GSE in the water. It should foam a little at the top, otherwise it is too weak. Then spray it on and massage it into the skin. I have been using this for several years with no allergic reaction. In fact, I think it has kept my underarms healthier than they would otherwise have been. Del - Original Message - From: gwms...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: Re: CSDeodorant Some of these stones contain aluminun. I didn't believe it, but I checked it some years ago. Justj look at the ingredients don't assume that they are all natural. In addition, the stone is super if you can use it, but after a few weeks, I become allergic and it breaks my underarms out. But even plain baking soda breaks myt underarms out after two days. G
Re: CSWound care....using colloidal silver for it
Hi Jason: Good to see you back on this list again, it's been a while. This post is timely for me, I have an infection on the knuckle of my thumb that will not go away. I scored it with a hand saw while sawing up some downed tree limbs in my back yard. It bled quite a bit, and I first washed it out then poured on some DMSO and CS, and some Cayenne Tincture, then bandaged it with a Band-Aid and Bacitracin. It healed over, but apparently an infection persisted under the skin, which now has a lump on the knuckle. I tried applying CS and DMSO several times a day, but not much success. So I switched to DMSO and SSKI (potassium iodide) with better results, but still not eliminated. It so happens that my wife is using pure calcium bentonite as a facial. It's this one here: http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=SW-1001 Would this work for my thumb as described in your email? And what do you mean by 50% of whatever ionic complex. Why not just use 100% CS with the clay? I assume the clay acts to draw out the infection and the CS kills it? Del - Original Message - From: Jason R Eaton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: CSWound careusing colloidal silver for it I use 50% colloidal silver at about 10PPM, with 50% of whatever ionic complex I want to use, in order to hydrate healing grade therapeutic clay. Now, not all bentonites will work with serious wound-care. To ensure success, a healing grade clay must be used.
Re: CSThe Best Bug Spray in the World. (in my opinion)
If you want an essential oil based, DEET free bug repellent in either spray or rub on form, I highly recommend the following: http://www.biteblocker.com/intro.html We use it all the time, it's very effective. Good for the skin, too. Del - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: CSThe Best Bug Spray in the World. (in my opinion) bodhi, I'm sure it's a great product and I didn't mean to infer anything differently. I also know that garlic can smell rather unpleasant at times, so I thought I'd comment on that aspect of it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZapper
My wife sees her frequently for spinal and hip adjustments. I'll have her ask about it. My guess is, she never heard of it, but would be willing to try it. Couldn't do any harm. Del - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:21 PM Subject: Re: CSZapper Hey Del -- ask him (her?) if he ever uses it on bites. I'd be curious to know! MA -- From: Del d...@altsystem.com Hey, this is really good to know. Our chiropractor has the muscle stimulation machine too. Makes sense that it might work on bites, but I never thought of it before. Del - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland Hey Ode! Just catching up on email, and I read yours. I don't always understand your posts, and maybe I'm not understanding your question here correctly -- but if I am, then the answer is yes. My chiropractor routinely alters the chemistry of venom with electricity. He has an electro-stim machine, which uses self-adhesive pads attached to wires attached to the machine -- through which electricity is conveyed to whatever spot on your body. Typically, this machine is used to deep-stimulte muscles -- such as back muscles -- to get them to release from spasms. But he also uses this machine on bites -- snake, brown recluse, tick, bee or wasp stings, etc. -- and it neutralizes the proteins/toxins of the venoms. It works so well on tick bites, that I have begun to use my Godzilla to self-treat tick bites successfully. Think I'd still head for him if I got a brown recluse bite, though!
Re: CSZapper
Hey, this is really good to know. Our chiropractor has the muscle stimulation machine too. Makes sense that it might work on bites, but I never thought of it before. Del - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:01 PM Subject: Fw: CSZapper I sent this message at 8:20 this morning -- but forgot to trim!! Hey Ode! Just catching up on email, and I read yours. I don't always understand your posts, and maybe I'm not understanding your question here correctly -- but if I am, then the answer is yes. My chiropractor routinely alters the chemistry of venom with electricity. He has an electro-stim machine, which uses self-adhesive pads attached to wires attached to the machine -- through which electricity is conveyed to whatever spot on your body. Typically, this machine is used to deep-stimulte muscles -- such as back muscles -- to get them to release from spasms. But he also uses this machine on bites -- snake, brown recluse, tick, bee or wasp stings, etc. -- and it neutralizes the proteins/toxins of the venoms. It works so well on tick bites, that I have begun to use my Godzilla to self-treat tick bites successfully. Think I'd still head for him if I got a brown recluse bite, though! MA -- From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 5:07:14 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper Next question: Can venom be altered by altering the chemistry of the blood with an electrical current? I'd say likely so. Note that most itch sticks have ammonium as the base.. a caustic substance. Pee on jelly fish stings..ammonium again. Ammonium Hydroxide...Sodium Hydroxide. Alkaline.
Re: CSanother question about cell phones
Ode: Good post. I would love to discuss this further, but it belongs on the OT list. Hey, all you people who are not on the Off Topic List - please sign up so we can have our little discussions without scaring off people who are looking for CS and general health information. Del - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: Re: CSanother question about cell phones Way off topic, but..an important truth that isn't getting out there very well. There is a rather large movement growing here in the US of A called the Tea Party It's made up of smiling grandparents and mommies and daddies for the most part and now and then some come fully armed...yet, not ONE provable act or even threat of violence in many tens of thousands in the crowds that had anything to do with a Tea Partier [other than being a victim] In one instance, it was a left winger that bit the finger off a Tea Partier...no retaliation or charges filed. Another was a gang of SEIU Union thugs in their purple colors beating a Black Tea Partier to a hospitalized pulp, with full footage as undeniable proof of what happened from start to finish [The prosecutors refused to charge the thugs with aggravated or otherwise, assault and battery ] Tea Partiers are portrayed by the mainstream media as racist, seditious and traitorous.. un American..a threat to all. Who's the racists? I recall one instance where the news cameras on several networks showed a person carrying an assault rifle and using that to prove the gathering race based and potentially violent..on the edge, no less than the old KKK on the march. [Who BTW were mostly Democrats back then ? ] But other [leaked out] views of that same footage showed it to be an armed Black man, perfectly at ease in the middle of a sea of white folks cropped for effect to support an outright lie. Nancy Pelosi and company walked arm in arm through a crowd of Tea Partiers opposing ObamaCare just after it was rammed down the people throats in an attempt to BAIT that crowd in its most emotional state possible. They claimed they were spit at and had racist comments hurled at them, but a $100,000 reward for any evidence to back up that claim had ZERO takers despite there being hundreds of cell phone and video cameras in the crowd documenting every detail. LIARS and So much for the news that also failed to document the *supposed* events, being *right there* to do so. In Raleigh NC, the state capital right up the road, the police department announced it would no longer be a presence at Tea Party gatherings other than a few cops to protect the Tea Partiers ..something like 1 cop per thousand **Tea Baggers** Weirdly, the same cops that billy clubbed Teachers, University Professors and News Reporters when a block party failed to break up to their liking ten or so years ago. Some carry flags that show a coiled snake that read Don't Tread On Me It's a genuinely friendly snake, not out for anyone elses mice, saying I try to stay out of the way and mind my own business, but if you seek me out and step on my back..I WILL bite ...they even pick up their own trash before they leave. Dr Martin Luther Kings niece Dr. Alveda King has publicly thrown in with the *tea baggers* standing next to and embracing, [whoda guessed it] Ted Nugent [the so called white redneck gun nut poster boy] KKK? Not hardly. Using the words of VP Joe Biden to a better purpose. This is a big f***ing Deal ! Don't believe everything you see on TV or read in the news Keep the ears open for double talk, 'Shell Games and misdirection. The accusers accuse others of doing what THEY do and did, predicting behavior based on their OWN behavior, both past and present... and coming up empty with nothing left to do but lie. Manipulation 101 The con man knows that the duped will support his con rather than admit to themselves that they'd been played the fool. [Read that, the news media, being predictably human ] ..and the bigger the fool, the more the defensive lying to deny it. Must save face at any cost. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanother question about cell phones
The OT list address is posted at the bottom of every (I think ) message. Here it is: Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The discussions are interesting, but please continue on the OT list. Sign up on the OT list if you want to continue exploring these topics. Del - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: Re: CSanother question about cell phones Good idea -- do you have the instructions handy for signing up for OT list? Dick Good post. I would love to discuss this further, but it belongs on the OT list. Hey, all you people who are not on the Off Topic List - please sign up so we can have our little discussions without scaring off people who are looking for CS and general health information. Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanother question about cell phones
If you have more to say, take it to the OT list. I, for one, would be glad to hear it. A number of us have moved there to continue the ot discussions. Del - Original Message - From: Garrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:23 PM Subject: Re: CSanother question about cell phones Them like the them in the movie Them. The worst ones might be reptilians. This is my last post on this thread due to complaints g On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:23 PM, bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com wrote: There is no left or right, there is only Them.. Govts can always find enough money to kill people, but never enough to save people. The sooner people realize the very entities we trust, are the ones undermining humanity, the better off we'll all be. Garrick wrote: Agree with all you posted. I would add that I am against the 0bama socialist health care. The USA may go bankrupt before it kicks in anyway. What happens to Greece today can happen to America in a few years. Margaret Thatcher said, Socialism is fine until you run out of other people's money The EU currency is sinking and stinking. The strongest nations for the future are Canada and Australia because they mine gold and are mega-exporters of coal and other raw materials that China and others crave. They also eluded the real estate boom/bust that hit the UK, USA and others The organic food scene has always had crusty right wingers such as Fletcher Simms who was making bio-dynamic compost in Texas in the 1960s onward. Rightists have always been anti-fluoridation to the point this was joked about in Dr Strangelove. Poisoning my bodily fluids. Plenty of the old organic types were John Birchers. You go to the Acres USA site (they carry Phil Callahan's tapes and books) and you can tell they are right-libertarian Ode -- You are correct about all the media deception and misrepresentations of the Tea Party people. Who skew older because they remember America the way it was. What kind of memory does any under-30 person have about America's better years? -- Gurdjieff-- How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?
Re: CSanother question about cell phones
Sorry, buddy, we live in Vermont and we have a cell phone tower right out our front window, and an even bigger one just up the street. Don't get me wrong, it is a great place to live, one of the best, but it is not immune. Del - Original Message - From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:21 PM Subject: Re: CSanother question about cell phones Vermont. Some family live there, my brother in-law tells me they can't even get a cell signal at half the places they go. Sounds good to me. Vermont scores very high on most Happy tests from what I have read. sol wrote: bodhisattva wrote: Something important.. In the USA, the state with the weakest gun laws, weakest cell signals/fewest towers, fewest/liberal criminal laws, legal marijuana, and fewest CCTV cameras... Are you ready for this? Tada! Has the lowest crime rate, highest happiness level, and is consistently rated the best place to live in the country.. What state is that? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanother question about cell phones
I already know all about this stuff. I watched Enemy Of The State and Live Free Or Die Hard Next up is the Fire Sale. Del - Original Message - From: bodhisattva To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: CSanother question about cell phones Interesting is how we know they are, and certainly want Total Tracking of every single entity on this planet. The spy network in this country has unlimited funds, and can go out of control because there is no public oversight. It's become a bunch of Cowboys that think they can overstep the constitution, and get away with it. Understand the purpose of this isn't some arab living in a cave in Pakistan, Ok? Here's some things to ponder... Much of this is coming out through FIA documents, some is being slowly leaked, others comes out on accident. The potential abuse of this stuff is stunning, and unimaginable, and given how power corrupts, it's to be expected.
Re: CSanother question about cell phones
Only when in use - but, of course, that is when you are holding it up to your ear. If you have a cordless house phone, the handset emits radiation only when in use. But the cordless base/recharging station where the antenna is emits radiation constantly (just like a cell phone tower with antennas). If you have a WI-Fi system, your Wi-Fi router also emits radiation constantly. Having a Wi-Fi router is like having a cell phone tower in your house! Your laptop that uses Wi-Fi emits radiation when you connect to the Wi-Fi system (kind of like the cell phone). The problem is with the continuous types of exposure from base stations and for people who have a cell phone glued to their ear for hours a day. The units kids use of texting also emit, but at least when texting they do not hold them to their ear - that helps. Del - Original Message - From: PT Ferrance To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:45 AM Subject: CSanother question about cell phones Hi, I was wondering if anyone know of a cell phone radiation danger when the phone is not in use? Does it only emit radiation when you are actually talking? Or all the time??? Thanks. PT
Re: CSanother question about cell phones
I measured RF radiation from our cell phone when powered on but not in use, using our Electrosmog detector (this one: http://www.lessemf.com/rf.html#481) The detector did not register any radiation above background (between 0.2 and 0.8 microwatts per square meter). When I keyed the phone as if to make a call, the meter jumped up to near 200 microwatts per square meter. So our cell phone does not emit when not in use (that is not to say that others don't, however. Ours is about four years old at this point, a Samsung, don't know model number). Same thing with the cordless phone - no radiation when not in use, but jumped off the scale when keyed. Base unit, however, was off the scale all the time. We trashed our cordless phones as a result of the measurement. Likewise our Wi-Fi router. Turning on the microwave oven also pegged the meter, but we hardly ever use that, and it gives us a light over the cook stove, so we still have that. Del - Original Message - From: bodhisattva To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:32 AM Subject: Re: CSanother question about cell phones Only when in use - but, of course, that is when you are holding it up to your ear. - incorrect, cell phones transmit even when not in use, and even when off in some cases. If you have a cordless house phone, the handset emits radiation only when in use. - incorrect, all modern cordless phone handsets transmit at all times, even when on the base.
Re: CSZapper
I purchased a Godzilla zapper from V, and got some pretty good burns on my skin from it. I have read a lot about people getting burns from the Croft zapper as well. I was never able to solve this problem and finally gave up on the zapper bit. Probably due to my ignorance, but I did follow instructions. Del - Original Message - From: Garrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:10 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper Hi The genius of the Don Croft zapper is that it's kind of idiot proof and very wearable with the embedded copper contacts. Some wear it all day when in a jam. Croft climbed over a psychological barrier. The classic zapper has copper handles to spread out the electric but you will just use it in a session. You won't wear it for hours unless.. You take the initiative to cut two copper discs and tape them to yourself. Use those as electrodes. But then you are ripping tape off yourself (unpleasant) to move the electrodes to a new spot. With the Croft you can move it at a moment's notice. The Croft has orgonite inside and other hoopla. These are subtle energy enhancements. Do they really to enhance the zapper? I don't know. G On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: I don't think zappers actually electrify the blood. What they do is manufacture electrochemical byproducts according to what pole is ionizing [??] salt at that location. One pole Sodium Hydroxide, alkalizing there...the other Hypochlorus acid. [similar to MMS] If I'm getting Positive Offset correctly...that would be pulsed DC. The frequency of the DC pulse would then be an on/off [50/50 ? ]duty cycle to allow those chemicals to migrate faster than they build up in the skin causing chemical burns. A slower pulse would build up more before the blood in surface capillaries washes it in deeper and dilutes it...pretty much a matter of comfort level. Voltage doesn't matter, it's current delivered over an area [current density again] With a higher voltage, you can deliver more current over a smaller less conductive area. How much at a given voltage depends on the conductivity of the electrolyte on the pads or how wet and salty your skin and the size of the electrodes and how far apart they are on the body. I'd like to see a variable resistor or a pulse width modulator that can go to maybe a 20/80 duty cycle to get control of that over all current. You can get red itchy skin [mild chemical burning] at only 1.2 volts...or no burning at 24 volts depending on how the electrodes are configured. Ode At 02:13 PM 4/24/2010 +0100, you wrote: I've been seriously considering buying a zapper and am toying between these two. I'd really welcome any comments. Is there any advantage to having the dual frequency? I can see the timer might be a good idea. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zapper-Dual-freqency-of-30KHZ-2-5KHZ_W0QQitemZ150430846490QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies?hash=item2306608e1ahttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zapper-Dual-freqency-of-30KHZ-2-5KHZ_W0QQitemZ150430846490QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies?hash=item2306608e1a and http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zapper-Dr-Hulda-Clark-with-built-in-electronic-timer_W0QQitemZ150433257357QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies?hash=item230685578dhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zapper-Dr-Hulda-Clark-with-built-in-electronic-timer_W0QQitemZ150433257357QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies?hash=item230685578d I've also seen a 12v zapper. Is that one any better? Any advice would be really welcome Cheers Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Gurdjieff-- How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?
Re: CSZapper
Used it on my wrist for blood electrification. Kept the current between 0.5 and 0.75. Have it on the 30 second alternating cycle. I keep the electrodes, which are strapped to either side of my wrist with rubber bands, wet by periodically using a dropper of cs mixed with baking soda. In fifteen to twenty minutes, skin gets red, very irritated, and itches like crazy. I have to stop at that point. Not sure of any positive effects. Tried it on a bad tooth, electrodes on either side of the gum. Kept it there quite a while, but did not help. Tooth too far gone, I think. Tooth is now no more. Replaced with titanium implant. No more infection. Glad to be rid of it. Still chewing. Del - Original Message - From: Bob Banever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper Del, You either left the electrodes on your skin too long or you turned the device up to high. Either way using CS and aloe should solve the problem sooner rather than later. What did you use the divice for? A Godzilla isn't the same thing as a zapper. Bob - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:59 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper Really Del? I'm sorry to hear that. I have one of V's Godzillas too -- and have never gotten any burns. Must admit, though, I use a very low frequency because if I get it too high, it *bites*. Could it be that your setting is too high? Or that you left it on too long without switching polarity? MA From: Del d...@altsystem.com I purchased a Godzilla zapper from V, and got some pretty good burns on my skin from it. I have read a lot about people getting burns from the Croft zapper as well. I was never able to solve this problem and finally gave up on the zapper bit. Probably due to my ignorance, but I did follow instructions.
CSIs all ionizing radiation harmful???
Most of the recent discussion views radiation as harmful. And it frequently is. But is it ever actually healthful? I don't know, but Daddybob (who we have not heard from recently) had this to say on this list in Feb., 2010: A word about Radiation Hormesis...We have all been conditioned to believe that all radiation is bad radiation. T'ain't so. We, our family, have no fear whatsoever of any part of the recommendations and products offered by NightHawk. However, as with anything, there is always too much of a good thing. DaddyBob NightHawk radiation hormesis page: http://www.nighthawkminerals.com/researchit.html Lots of information here that contradicts commonly held beliefs about radiation. Are they right? Is low dose radiation good for you? I don't know, but I am interested in reading more about it. Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector
Chernobyl - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:43 AM Subject: Re: CSA closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector If a radioactive substance is moved from one place, e.g. in the ground, to another place, e.g., in a smoke detector, how is that adding to it? All the radioactive matter on earth is somewhere right now. When we use it, we move it from wherever it is to some place else. We don't create it. Actually, you could make an argument that by mining radioactive substances and concentrating them into reactors, bombs, or other products, you are making the world a bit safer, since it is easier to avoid exposure to reactors, bombs, etc, than to the same substances all spread out in the ground. I never have understood quite why people get all wrapped around the axle about some things. For example, we take aluminum out of the ground, where it is one of the more abundant elements in the earth's crust, and we make beer cans out of it. But if we then put that aluminum back in the ground, e.g., by throwing empty beer cans into the dump, people get all in a lather about pollution. Why? We are just putting the aluminum back where we found it. And wasting water. People get all wound up about using too much water. But it's not like it gets used up. It's still there after whatever we use it for. And it comes back to us from rain, etc. Why all the furor? Yeah, I know, there can be local shortages, but overall the total amount of water on earth doesn't really change, does it? Dick -- From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 8:58:34 PM Subject: Re: CSA closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector Alan, Yes of course. Best not to add to it. I'm sure you would agree. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:37 PM Subject: Re: CSA closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector Better go live in a lead box, even the natural world is full of it. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: No amount of radiation is trivial. No level is safe and all ionizing radiation causes damage to DNA. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSMore on Cell-Phone and Cell-Tower radiation
- Original Message - From: bodhisattva To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: CSMore on Cell-Phone and Cell-Tower radiation Is someone paying you to spin this stuff? Bodhisattva: Actually, Ode is just exercising his role as the Socrates of the group. Nothing personal, I assure you. He does it to all of us. He likes to use the Socratic method and will deliberately take an opposing position in order to cause others to refine their thinking. Be careful, because if you start to agree with him, he might immediately switch positions and start to argue the merits of the position you abandoned. Besides, his posts are sometimes so long and rambling, and so full of metaphor and deliberate contradictions, that by the time you get to the end, you no longer know where you started. Which, of course, is exactly his point. You can't pin him down, so don't try. But if you read him long enough, you will realize that he is passionately dedicated to discovering the truth (or, at least, discovering if there is such a thing). On technical issues, he is very reliable and one of our leading experts (which he will no doubt deny because that might contradict his carefully cultivated image as just another good-ol-boy). On political, economic, and moral issues, he is Heisenberg - check your certainties at the door. But most of all, he is almost always stimulating and entertaining. So don't take offense. Just sit back and enjoy (if you have the time). Ode, I just blew your cover! Del
Re: CSA closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector
- Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: CSA closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector Yes, I'm serious. It's the same aluminum, just in a different location. There is nothing inherently evil about aluminum being in a Maine landfill in the form of a can rather than in the ground in Argentina in the form of particles. The only thing bad about it is that a few people who live near the landfill might not like it. So why do they choose to live near the landfill? Apologies for continuing this CS-irrelevant thread. I'll stop now. Dick Well, at least it started off as something relatively relevant. Anyway, about landfills, am I the only one who thinks these will eventually be fantastically valuable in some not-so-distant resource depleted future? Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSA closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J_KqY81EmA - Original Message - From: bodhisattva To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: CSMore on Cell-Phone and Cell-Tower radiation I also removed my 241am laced radioactive smoke detectors and replaced them with harmless photoelectric ones. This was after I purchased an instrument to measure the emissions from them, and discovered they had a fairly good plume coming off them. Of course they say It's not enough to be harmful to everyone, but they are also banking on the fact that most people will never purchase instruments to check them.
Re: CSMore on Cell-Phone and Cell-Tower radiation
Unfortunately, it is hard or impossible to prove a negative, and for every theory out there, whether crackpot or legitimate, there seems to be some research that proves the theory true. If I believed all the research out there, I would drive myself crazy trying to avoid all the dangerous things in this world. Or I would live a short miserable life and die early of hunger, thirst and utter boredom. Or, even worse, you might live a long, miserable, and utterly boring life. My parents went for years drinking decaf coffee because caffeine was bad for you, then they found out decaf was worse. They went for years avoiding eggs because they were bad for you, now eggs aren't bad any more. After seeing so many bad things become ok years later, and so many government-sanctioned good things be found to be bad, I'm not prepared to take anything at face value, especially if it comes from government, and second if it comes from research studies, which can be twisted, bent, or just plain broken, by anybody with the money to commission them and a preconceived idea of what the studies will prove. Well, that pretty much skewers all the researchers. Better tell Brooks Bradley that he has wasted his time. Even the most obvious facts of modern life, accepted almost universally by everyone without question, can be based on blatantly bad science or statistics. Take for example the claim that smoking kills 500,000 people a year because it causes heart disease, which is the nation's biggest killer. Is that true? I have no doubt that smoking is bad for people, but ... is it That bad? All my aunts and uncles who smoked died horribly of cancer. They also suffered for a long time before expiring. Dying of old age is preferable. So I avoid smoking and smokers. Am I bored? No. Will I live longer as a result? I have no idea, but I know I will feel and smell better while I live. The worst thing about smokers is that they quite literally stink. To answer that question I looked in some of those Information Please almanac books that give tons of statistics, including causes of death in the US by category: heart disease, cancer, accidents, etc. -- 50 some categories, and sure enough, cardio-vascular disease was right up there at the top of the list by a mile. But ... something is missing from all those lists. Look long enough and you might see it too, but it is easy to miss, because it IS NOT THERE: According to our illustrious government, nobody dies of old age! What a miracle that is! The government has cured OLD AGE! Must be, since they claim that nobody dies from it. My guess is simply that old age is not something doctors are allowed to enter on a death certificate as a cause of death, so they have to write something else, and when in doubt, they put down heart stopped' or some such thing. But does that make for another death from heart disease? obviously not. Doctors put lots of things on death certificates - like, for instance, patients who died of cancer when what they really died from was chemo therapy. So how many of those are there? To answer that question i sent for a publication by the National Safety Council, which resides in Chicago, and which is the source, along with National Department of Health and Human Services (a few years ago) of almost all the information in the statistical almanac books. NSC sent me a little booklet that contained, among many other things, a graph of cardio-vascular death rates vs age. Sure enough, the numbers were very low right up to the late 60s or early 70s, when they started to ramp up, reaching a sharp peak around 80, then dropping down again. Where are all the heart disease deaths at other stages of life? Not to be found in that graph, that's for sure. But then again, the only way to find that tidbit of information was to buy a little pamphlet for $25 (in 1990), from the National Safety Council, which by the way is an independent corporation in Chicago, chartered by and overseen by -- US Congress. Ok, so now we know where the numbers, and the lies, are coming from for this issue. Looks like your research here proves your point about research. Don't even get me started on drinking and driving Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
