Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2022-02-24 Thread yeomanspc

Can you expand on “doesn’t work”.
Not install, not start?  Do you get anything in the logs?  What system
are you using (hardware), and what version of QTS?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Standing Ovation

2022-02-21 Thread yeomanspc

Huge appreciation .  Today I was in my barn and looked up at an old SB2
that’s still running (I upgraded from my Slimp3 that still works and
looks stylish in a retro way).  I turned it on and selected a BBC
channel using the new BBCSounds plugin.  And I wondered - how many 20
year old media players can cope with all the modern streaming formats
(no others likely) and that led me to think about all the hard work (by
mostly volunteers) to enable this and to keep this system abreast of
technology over the last 20 years.  And this evening I saw this post.  

Big thanks to Michael for sticking with it, and to Erland, Triode, BPA,
Charles, Stuart, Philippe, Philip and no doubt dozens of others who have
taken the baton over the years and contributed so much creativity and
time to get us here.  Long may it continue.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2021-02-05 Thread yeomanspc

I’m just getting this issue too. 2 x NAS.  Production was on 2.21. 
Backup is on 2.20.  Unable to connect to Qnapclub repository to download
- it was indicating update available, but would not download.  Noticed
backup was https and the prod just a simple www url.  Added new
repository using same url as production NAS and now cannot see any apps.
In the end I simply downloaded and installed manually.
Additionally, on both, the LMS icon displays for a few seconds on the
App Centre, and then disappears (this has been the case for a long time)


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB1: is it dying or just no longer supported?

2020-12-29 Thread yeomanspc


I have some SB1s and have this issue for quite a while - I thought it
was because I run 2 servers (one backup).  It seems to be timing- if you
interrupt the auto startup and step through the network setup then press
the down button just as it looks for a server, after a few attempts it
will lock on.  Once connected they are fine.  I keep meaning to see if
the Slimp3s work too!  Happy days.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MusicIP plugin: any way to set an IP address for the music IP Server?

2020-03-18 Thread yeomanspc

It’s worth using sugar cube - so much better as a driver for musicip.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS vs SSD

2019-01-15 Thread yeomanspc


I put an SSD on an Odroid (like a PI) for an LMS server 3+ years ago
because I did not want a spinning drive, and it runs off the PI USB
power.  It just runs.  The amount of writing to the cache is hardly
going to stress the SSD - I run them in desktops and my work laptop
which runs 24x365 and never a problem - think of how much a heavy
stacked PC writes to the disk every day.  By contrast, USB flash drives
have miserable write life - why would you put the heaviest writes on the
weakest component?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2019-01-10 Thread yeomanspc

wjd wrote: 
> I just installed the update.
> After the update I still could not enter the web gui, and my players
> couldn't connect either.
> After a LMS stop and start using putty everything works fine.

Same here.  Not 100% sure it wasn’t my impatience but a restart brings
it up pretty quick.  Happened on both QNAPs.  All fine now.  For those
not comfortable with Putty/command line, you can also stop/start in App
Centre.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-11-07 Thread yeomanspc

Oops.  I can’t believe I did not see the # at the start of every
line[emoji15].  Musicip working now.  Just need to sort the other issue
(which I know is not QLMS).
Many thanks.  How do we make a €€donation?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-11-06 Thread yeomanspc


digimaster wrote: 
> It that case, would backup the Cache and prefs directory in the
> SlimServer directory to a save place. Then Uninstall
> QLogitechMediaServer and install the latest from the app center. Then
> stop Qlogitechmediaserver and copy back the Cache and prefs to the
> SlimServer directory. Now start Qnap-LogitechMediaServer again, and all
> should work. 
> 
> Send from my mobile Phone

OK.  I have 2 servers.  TS569 pro running 4.3.4 (Backup), and a TS
670Pro running QTS 4.3.5.  I removed Optware and QLMS 1.09a, rebooted,
and reinstalled just QLMS2.0.10 (no Optware).  2 significant problems.
1.  The servers are in constant fight for the players.  By that I mean
that the players connect to server A, but then immediately say they are
connecting to server B (but they do not).  This is happening every few
seconds.  I am having to stop one server to prevent this conflict.  TBH,
I did see this behaviour with 1.09a and gave up trying to fix it.  If I
stop either one of the servers, the other works fine.  I wonder if this
is a network problem, so unless someone has seen it before, I will
continue to investigate.

2.  I cannot get MUSICIP s to start on either machine.  MUSICIP plugin
is installed and activated.  I checked QLMS.conf and MUSICIP was set to
0, so I set it to 1.  Restarted.  Mo Musicip.  No reference to MUSICIP
in the QLogitecMediaServer.log.  If you recall, I never had an issue
with MIP before (early tester).  Maybe I forgot to do something?

Thanks for any help - your hard work is much appreciated.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-11-05 Thread yeomanspc


I am running QNAP TS 670Pro (i7) with QTS 4.3.4.0695
An early convert to QLogitechMediaServer here, I am still running 1.09a
and it is showing that as installed on QNAPCLUB.  No upgrade option.  If
I click on the icon, it says the version available is V2.0.10
(2018-11-05).
I am also running Optware (we needed to install this (on your advice) to
make QLogitechMediaServer operate).  I understand this is not needed
now.
Should I..

- Remove Optware
- Download QLogitechMediaServer V2 and manually install?
  
I presume it will upgrade ok and I do not need to remove V.109a?
Will everything else continue to work as was (plug-ins, preferences
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2018-09-21 Thread yeomanspc

It really irritates me to have QNAP NAS’s sitting there in theory
perfectly capable of running LMS but then running LMS on a PI.  I do run
LMS on my NAS’s, but I also run LMS on an  Odroid (Pi-like) with
Max2Play at work.  The  QNAP hosted LMS (supporting 13 players) is kinda
ok but does require a kick every month to sort some kind of glitch.  The
‘Pi’ on the other hand just runs. I might look at it once every 6 months
- once it went 10 months.  I just forget about it.  So unless you like
the challenge, it really is better to install LMS on a Pi - just don’t
forget where it is in the house.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2018-08-06 Thread yeomanspc

Just did a complete re-install of the backup NAS (changed all the disks)
- a 569pro on QTS 4.3.4 iirc. I note that the QNapclub loads up 1.08
version.  Was expecting 1.9b?
Having a problem with MusicIP - does not seem to load.  Can’t remember
if I need to do anything additional to get MIP installed.  It seems to
work fine on the prod system.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2018-07-17 Thread yeomanspc


Although I have no intention to move from Intel base, it seems QNAP now
favour AMD processors (for their performance models).  Is there a
fundamental reason why this qpkg will only ever work on Intel
processors, or is it simply that you do not have an AMD system to test
it on?  Similarly pre 4.2 QTS?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS

2018-07-17 Thread yeomanspc

I have 2 instances of LMS running on QNAP NAS’ and with the new Qpkg
provided by digimaster it runs as well as it has ever run on any other
platform (windows or pi) - including the support for spotty with no
issues, Musicip (included). Available in the EUclup qpkg repository
iirc.  It might only run on the later versions of QTS (later than 4.2)
but just runs and maybe intel only, but check because I think he was
considering expanding supported environments.

I also run LMS on an Odroid and on a pi based on Max2play with an
attached MSATA SSD for music (network wired) at work and is as close to
plug and forget as you get (not bothered with MusicIP but use sugarcube
to create dynamic mixes off the main NAS’ musicip database).

Bottom line - unless you are running 10 year old hardware or out of date
SW, LMS can run perfectly on a QNAP or a Synology, Pi or Odroid with no
hassle or maintenance overhead.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MusicIP import

2018-03-31 Thread yeomanspc

Do you mean that you have not run the LMS musicip import, or that 
Musicip has not done a scan?  

I think that if MIP is running and operational (ie has done its own scan
and created its own index, then LMS will know it is there and simply
sends a request to the MIP server for a list of tracks to play.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server not starting on QNAP TS-119PII after update

2018-03-27 Thread yeomanspc

As a suggestion to sort your problem and move to a more stable way to
run LMS on QNAP, I would suggest you remove the SSOTS based install
completely and instead use the recently produced excellent LMS ‘native’
install produced by Digimaster.  It will take you perhaps 20 minutes to
do it, and be far more stable then SSOTS which has become problematic
and unsupported.  Search this forum for QNAP install package details.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS "IP Solve" - problem on QNAP NAS

2018-03-26 Thread yeomanspc

I started getting those errors a while back after moving to 4.3.3 of
QTS.  It was the final straw so I installed the new build produced by
Digitalk and all those errors went away, plus a bunch of other issues
and you do not have to run SSOTS either.  If you are running on QNAP, I
100% recommend you install the new native package


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Don't Stop The Music MusicIP mix

2018-03-16 Thread yeomanspc

Presume windows laptop is server (musicip and LMS), and pi is player?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2018-03-03 Thread yeomanspc

You need to have MIP create the default.m3lib cache file by adding
music.  Is your Default.m3lib file created in the .musicip directory? 
The path that you specify to do this must be exactly the same as in LMS.
Not /share/music.  In both, it has to be /share/cachedev1_data/music. 
Add the music in the webgui and go out.  Mine takes about 1minute Per
1000 tracks.  When finished, the web gui will show how many tracks are
in the cache file.  If tracks need to be Analyzer, See my other post re
fingerprinting.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-03-03 Thread yeomanspc

Still cannot get it to work.
Here is a copy of the SSL session with all the commands
And an error...
Same  error on both machines..


Code:

[~] # cd /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer
  [/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer] # touch MUSICIP
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-28 Thread yeomanspc

digimaster wrote: 
> Oké hmm to run Musicip, the command su or SUDO are needed. 

If I install (activate) Optware then I have Sudo I think?  Is Optware
incompatible with LMS?

But not clear to me why I need it.  If all the mip stuff is owned by and
run by the LMS ID, then surely it is okay .


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-28 Thread yeomanspc

I have a 569pro and a 670pro.  Both run QTS 4.3.4.  The 569 has your
Optware installed.  SU was present on that.  I disabled Optware through
the app centre and SU comes back command not found.  Optware never
installed on the 670 and I get command not found there also.  So both
systems clean


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-27 Thread yeomanspc

Both servers are running fine now thanks.
And yes - I do use Musicip extensively.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-27 Thread yeomanspc

Thanks for the tip.
I did peek inside logitechmediaserver.sh, and I note that the version
shows as 1.08, whereas the version is really 1.07.2?
We are using the backup server which works ok, so I'll wait for the next
proper release.
I am running a 670pro (with the i7 chip upgrade)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-27 Thread yeomanspc

I just had another go.
Removed LMS using app store remove, and restarted NAS.
Re-installed LMS from app store.  It installs and runs.  I configured
LMS and did a media scan to build the indexes.  All OK.
Stopped LMS.  Restart.  FAULT.
Delete it all again, and re-install, rebuild indexes but this time,
before i stop the server, 
I SSL'd into NAS and did the CHOWN etc. on slimserver directory to make
squeezeboxserver the owner (presumably)
Stopped LMS
restart.  Fault.  

I can restart in failsafe.  I see this error in the LMS log


Code:

[18-02-27 09:17:50.4873] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server 
(v7.9.1, 1519287262, Thu Feb 22 09:27:46 CET 2018) perl 5.024000 - 
x86_64-linux-thread-multi
  [18-02-27 09:17:50.4873] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server 
(v7.9.1, 1519287262, Thu Feb 22 09:27:46 CET 2018) perl 5.024000 - 
x86_64-linux-thread-multi
  [18-02-27 09:17:50.5136] Carp::croak (167) Warning: write_file 
'/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Cache/LogitechMediaServer.pid'
 - sysopen: Permission denied at 
/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/slimserver.pl line 
1197.
  [18-02-27 09:18:02.0982] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server 
(v7.9.1, 1519287262, Thu Feb 22 09:27:46 CET 2018) perl 5.024000 - 
x86_64-linux-thread-multi 



Logitechmediaserver.pid is in the cache diirectory and is owned by
squeezeboxserver with attributes 644.
The logitechmediaserver.log.err file does not show any errors - it just
lists the plugins loaded - no errors.

I found this in the logitechmediaserver.log file..

Code:

[14:56:33 26-02-2018] Please wait a few minuts, have to build LMS from 
scratch !
  [14:56:59 26-02-2018] Upgrading LogitechMediaServer to 7.9.1-1519287262, 
please wait !
  [14:57:08 26-02-2018] Starting LogitechMediaServer in Background.
  shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent 
directories: No such file or directory
  shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent 
directories: No such file or directory
  [22:05:17 26-02-2018] Stopping LogitechMediaServer [16713] in the Background.
  [22:05:44 26-02-2018] CMDLINE --daemon --user squeezeboxserver --pidfile 
/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Cache/LogitechMediaServer.pid
 --httpport 9001 --priority -10 --charset=utf8 --quiet
  [22:05:45 26-02-2018] Something went wrong, check the 
/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/LogitechMediaServer.log.err and 
you're configuration! You could Try ./LogitechMediaServer.sh failsafe, or 
reinstall QPKG!
  


I cannot now start even in failsafe mode - it will require a remove and
re-install again.  Will keep investigating



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-25 Thread yeomanspc

still won't load at all - even in safemode.
I have to quit now as I have a 4am start, but will try a re-install on
Tuesday evening, and check ownership and post back.
Incidentally, Slimserver userid is showing disabled in QTS (on both
machines)..

Thanks for your help.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-25 Thread yeomanspc

digimaster wrote: 
> 
> 
> Regarding the other Qnap, seems to be older and new handle some Commands
> different. Next release will take care of that. 
> 
> 
OK - I'll wait :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-25 Thread yeomanspc

Hi.
So after successfully installing and running (for a week) on my backup
TS569Pro with QTS4.3.4, I tried to install on the main NAS (a TS670pro
with QTS4.3.  Initially it looks ok, and you can set it up, but if I
then stop the server and restart it, it refuses to start - tries once,
tries twice, and then disables the qpkg so it has to be removed and
re-installed.  I tried restarting safe mode (it does start in safemode),
but cannot do anything..
Following error messages.
>From the slimserver.log
> [18-02-25 17:39:36.9857] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server
> (v7.9.1, 1519287262, Thu Feb 22 09:27:46 CET 2018) perl 5.024000 -
> x86_64-linux-thread-multi
> [18-02-25 17:39:45.8295] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (374)
> Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table
> [18-02-25 17:39:46.5632] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2149) Warning:
> Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized!
> [18-02-25 17:39:49.8776] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (374)
> Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table
> [18-02-25 17:39:52.8097] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2149) Warning:
> Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized!
> [18-02-25 17:39:56.7670] main::checkDataSource (1110) Warning: Schema
> updated or no media found in the database, initiating scan.
> [18-02-25 17:40:30.9875] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (374)
> Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table
> [18-02-25 17:40:32.1648] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2149) Warning:
> Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized!
> [18-02-25 17:45:21.7333] Slim::Utils::Timers::__ANON__ (273) Error:
> Timer Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::__ANON__ failed: 
> [18-02-25 17:45:23.2125] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (374)
> Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table
> [18-02-25 17:45:23.5314] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2149) Warning:
> Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized!
> [18-02-25 17:45:41.7998] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (565)
> Unable to login to SN: Timed out waiting for data
> [18-02-25 17:45:41.8000] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
> (185) Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled: Timed out
> waiting for data (http://www.mysqueezebox.com)
> [18-02-25 17:45:41.8002] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
> (201) mysqueezebox.com sync init failed: Timed out waiting for data,
> will retry in 300 (http://www.mysqueezebox.com)
> [18-02-25 17:48:38.9870] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server
> (v7.9.1, 1519287262, Thu Feb 22 09:27:46 CET 2018) perl 5.024000 -
> x86_64-linux-thread-multi
> [18-02-25 17:48:38.9870] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server
> (v7.9.1, 1519287262, Thu Feb 22 09:27:46 CET 2018) perl 5.024000 -
> x86_64-linux-thread-multi

And from  the LogitechMediaServer.log
> [17:39:03 25-02-2018] Please wait a few minuts, have to build LMS from
> scratch !
> [17:39:29 25-02-2018] Upgrading LogitechMediaServer to 7.9.1-1519287262,
> please wait !
> [17:39:36 25-02-2018] Starting LogitechMediaServer in Background.
> shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access
> parent directories: No such file or directory
> shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access
> parent directories: No such file or directory
> [17:47:47 25-02-2018] Stopping LogitechMediaServer [17420] in the
> Background.
> [17:48:39 25-02-2018] CMDLINE --daemon --user squeezeboxserver --pidfile
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Cache/LogitechMediaServer.pid
> --httpport 9001 --priority -10 --charset=utf8 --quiet
> [17:48:39 25-02-2018] Something went wrong, check the
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/LogitechMediaServer.log.err
> and you're configuration! You could Try
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/LogitechMediaServer.sh
> failsafe, or reinstall QPKG!

And from the LogitechMediaServer.log.err
> Got @INC containing:
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer
> /usr/local/perl/lib/site_perl/5.24.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi
> /usr/local/perl/lib/site_perl/5.24.0
> /usr/local/perl/lib/5.24.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi
> /usr/local/perl/lib/5.24.0
> .
> 
> Extended @INC to contain:
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/CPAN/arch/5.24/x86_64-linux-thread-multi
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/CPAN/arch/5.24/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/CPAN/arch/5.24.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/CPAN/arch/5.24.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/CPAN/arch/5.24/x86_64-linux-thread-multi
> /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/CPAN/arch/5.24/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto
> 

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-25 Thread yeomanspc

The scanning is a one-time thing (or when you add new music).  When I
did this for my 35k tracks, it took a week maybe, but it was background
and I was at work.  Rebuilding / checking my raid can take almost that
so for me that is not an issue.  I would be really interested in what
you have done to get it working, and to test it (I have 2 QNAPs). 
Incidentally, I just installed the new Qpkg on my production NAS and I
am having problems.  It works fine on the 569 but not the  670pro.  Will
post back when I find out why.  It’s plugin related (I think Spotty
plugin causes failure and deactivation)


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-24 Thread yeomanspc

digimaster wrote: 
> *
> After pointing to musicip and musicmagicserver, been playing around a
> bit with it.
> And it works on the QNap.
> But no idea how many want to use it, or how it is used in combination
> with LMS.\
> 
> So the question is, is there any intressed to add it to
> QLogitechMediaServer ?
> 
> Let me know, and maybe some more information ?*

A lot of people stopped using it because it was hard to make it work. 
But it produces the best mixes (no doubt) because it works of the actual
music fingerprints rather than tags.
SSOTS included it, but since the BASH issues with SSOTS (and SSOTS no
longer being supported making updates a hassle), MUSICIP got left
behind.  You might find that some people do not want the additional
overhead of having it running, so it has to be an option.  Also, the
binaries are only for Intel - not ARM.

But I am spending a lot of time trying to get it working (my Linux
skills are almost zero).  Even if you can produce a 'how-to' document
that would be appreciated, but if you could produce a simple QPKG that
would be fabulous.
Many thanks for looking at this.  I am not having much luck with the
MUSICIP container (can't seem to access the music), and in any case,
containers do not run on a lot of the older QNAPs.

How it works?  It is a server that analyses the music, and creates a
file containing fingerprint data of the music 'profile'.  Every track
has fingerprint data, and if you want a mix of similar tracks then it
provides the list to LMS.  The interface is through port 10002 (or
whatever you configure).  The installation parameters are stored in an
ini file called mmm.ini, and the fingerprint cache is stored in
'default.m3lib (but you define the name in the ini file).  It has to be
started prior to LMS so that LMS can interface to it once running.  

In windows there is a GUI and additional function (like writing the
fingerprint data into the MP3 tags), but mostly it runs fine headless in
Linux.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-21 Thread yeomanspc

HB64 wrote: 
> In the past i have tried several ways to start MusicIP on boot with no
> luck, yes it will start but every reboot the m3lib file is gone due to
> the fact that it is started with the admin as user.
> In SSOTS this is automated and works flawless.
> So if you find a way to start MusicIP on boot with another user then
> admin or root and set the right place for the m3lib file to make  it
> survive a reboot your the man.

So I installed Optware and tried to run musicmagicserver from the
command line but it plain won’t - QTS simply says it can’t run the
binary.
So I wondered about running musicip in a  container (you have to be on
later hardware that supports docker) - and I found someone has done this
and there is a musicip image available which I installed and it loads up
ok.  Need to check directory mapping but the originator indicates this
is straightforward.  You map the port and it looks like it will work -
will have to wait till the weekend to try it all out properly because my
test system is a 569 that does not support VMs.  Startup sequence might
be a problem, but mostly my Qnap stays up for a month or more between
boots, so if I have to restart LMS manually after a maint reboot, it’s
not an issue.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-19 Thread yeomanspc

Thanks.. just to be clear..
MUSICIP / MusicMagicServer is not a part of LMS, it is a standalone
server that runs headless and receives requests to serve up mixes via
TCPIP to port 10002 [default].  It is 10+ years old and no longer
maintained - what is out there is as good as it gets. I don't think it
is Perl.  There is one binary (plus one ini file, and one cache of music
information)

It needs to be started prior LMS, then if the LMS MUSICIP plugin (which
is Perl) is active, LMS sends requests to localhost:10002 for mixes
[localhost is hardcoded in the plugin).  

So are you saying that a normal 32bit binary will run ok if I install
Optware-NG?  Again, to be clear, LMS does not need to run in 32bit, so
if I just install Optware-NG will it break the 64bit version of LMS that
is already installed?  I am thinking just to install Optware-NG and fire
up Musicip independently of LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2018-02-19 Thread yeomanspc

I tried going the upgrade route by changing the qpkg.conf file (against
your good advice).
It did indeed pick it up and show on the apps menu with an upgrade
option, but on trying to upgrade it still comes back with the error that
the 'the internal name of QLogitechMediaServer has been registered by
QLogitechMediaServer.

So I followed your preferred route and did a remove followed by a clean
install, and that's probably best for others too, since (hopefully) it
is the only time it has to be done now.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-19 Thread yeomanspc

digimaster wrote: 
> [There is away of making a QNap x86_64 with QTS 4.3 work with 32bits
> programs again]
> 
> You first need to install QOptware-NG v2.05, then follow the
> instructions to remove and reinstall QLogitechMediaServer with the
> backup Cache/prefs.
> 

Musicip is shipped as a 32 bit binary; I thought QTS will not run 32 bit
binaries.  How does Optware resolve this?

Apologies, I know this is a little off-topic, but it's the one remaining
issue I have - your hard work has resolved all other issues for me on
QNAP-LMS



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-16 Thread yeomanspc

What is the best way to upgrade this as new releases come out.?  Do I
have to do a complete remove, and re-install?
Any idea when it will be in the QNAP app store.?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-10 Thread yeomanspc

OK, going to take the plunge on my backup 569 pro with QTS 4.3. and give
this a go.

So to be clear.
  
- Remove LMS and SSOTS 
- restart NAS
- Install this qpkg
- 
  
Nothing else to add or do?  Do I need to manually delete SSOTS if it is
still lurking and has left directories lying around?
No other packages to install? (Optware etc. ) 
This NAS does nothing else other than a backup data store for the main
NAS, and backup music server.  No other apps are installed other than
the default QNAP/QTS ones.  So close to a clean install.
Many thanks..



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-01-25 Thread yeomanspc

I've been watching this with interest, and waiting to jump in.  A few
questions..

- You mentioned that it will soon be added into the official app
  store.  Is that correct, and when is this likely?
- 
- Does this run under QTS, or in a container?  I ask because I use
  MusicIP, and do not think that will run any more under QTS due to the
  64bit limitation.  I am reluctand to run any stablised apps like LMS
  under QTS because QNAP seem to have little care for backward
  compatibility.
- Does this get around the SSL errors that seem to have come with
  QTS4.3.  I have not even tried to fix this because for the most part
  my currnt setup works, but if I ever use Spotty then I think I will
  have to sort it.
- 
  

Right now, we run some Windows VMs, and I am seriously considering
chucking LMS back into that environment - at least it is stable and
insulated from QNAP breaking things .



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 7.9.1 on QNAP NAS

2017-12-18 Thread yeomanspc

I think your summary is excellent.
I'm running 1 and 3a, and the Pi (Odroid) with Max2PLAY, and played with
2, not tried 4

On 1, once you made the mods (which are well documented) upgrading is
fairly simple (just download and upgrade using SSOTS).  You probably
only need to upgrade the core LMS 3 or 4 times a year.  The downside of
(1) (see my other post just now), is that QTS might one day be
incompatible with LMS, just as I suspect MUSICIP has become.
On 2, early days, and you might struggle if the container does not have
what you want (bolted on to the side of LMS)
3 works, and I will probably end up going back to that because I just
happen to have a VM, and it is stable.  It hardly takes any resource,
and we use it for Windows apps that we know and love.  
4 - I have not tried this, but it might suffer the same downstream
issues as 1 re compatibility.

I also have tried various RPi / Odroid implementations, including
sticking a 512GB SSD on the side and having it self contained.  For me,
the same issue of no MUSICIP (albeit that has maybe been partially
addressed now).  I run one of these in the office, and (frankly) much as
I hate to admit it, it just works like an appliance,  Music serving is
all it does, and it does it well.  How many players?  don't know the
capacity of a Pi.  Also, indexing music might be heavy if you have 100k
tracks - I have 35k and the Pi manages ok in about 20 mins for a full
rebuild (albeit slower than the NAS)

If I was starting from scratch, I'd probably run in a Windows VM because
of MUSICIP.  If you don't want MIP, I'd run it in a Pi either using the
NAS storage, or USB solid state storage .  The advantage of running on
the Pi with local storage is it truly is dedicated, so no interruptions
to music when you tinker with the NAS, and no way for the NAS to be
compromised with music stuff.  But having shelled out for a NAS that
doubles as a music server, you probably don't want to hear that!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bought QNAP TS251+ and alreay regret it...

2017-09-11 Thread yeomanspc

Did you check the QNAP forum?  Basically you just download SSOTS and
install that 'manually' from the app manager, and then follow
instructions to install 7.9.  There is some issue with the fact that
BASH version is vulnerable and technically should be upgraded which is a
bit of a fiddle, but if you only use your NAS internally (i.e. Do not
expose externally) then you probably do not need to worry about that. 
Yes it will take a couple of hrs but once installed it just works.  You
could also put it on a RPi and use the NAS as a file server to a Pi
based LMS but that's hassle too imho and another box.  Upgrades to LMS
require you to rename the downloaded file but again this is
straightforward.  Instructions in the QNAP forum are very good.  If you
get stuck ask for help.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Lms 7.9 QtS4.3 64bit problem?

2017-05-02 Thread yeomanspc

Production machine is a 670, backup is a 569.  Re-loaded LMS last night
and updated all the wifi access points/switches - as of now it is all
working on the 670pro - I'll report back in a couple of days if it is
still good.  Will also test the 569 which is same gen as yours


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Lms 7.9 QtS4.3 64bit problem?

2017-05-01 Thread yeomanspc

- Are other folk having issues with the latest 4.3 QNAP build?
- Are other people seeing it working ok?
  


Mine seems to work most of the time, but periodically the server is not
being found by (in particular) wifi controllers (the SB controller and
Ipeng), and I have to restart LMS.  I am able to access LMS via the web
interface, and it will play radio and files to wired players.

I have RPI's and Odroids, and I get that they work, but I also just want
to be able to use my existing QNAP infrastructure (which for a few years
has been rock solid).

Is it established that QNAP have in fact broken LMS in the latest QTS
build, and if so, is it know what the root issue is?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on QNAP TS-559 Pro+ - after scan, no songs listed in library

2017-05-01 Thread yeomanspc

A bit late in responding.  Did you move to storage pools with the new
build?  If so, the directory path is slightly different - I can't
remember exactly because it's been a while, but I did have some issues -
my path is /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/Music (my music is stored in a folder
called 'Music', which is off the main share.)  I recall prior to
implementing pools, it was simply /share/music.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A massive thanks to maintainers

2016-12-30 Thread yeomanspc

Ever since Logitech dumped it we worried about the future protection of
our investments.  You do not get much for free these days, and I for one
would be happy to make a regular donation to some kid of fund to
compensate the team for hard work.  For me, the BBC IPlayer work has
been critical, but also the work Michael has put into the core code and
of course many contributions to keep things working with new streaming
services and formats.  Some very clever people out there - many many
thanks.


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