Re: 1.1.16 - News Group Problem

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:40:27 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Sun, 05 Apr 2009 06:06:43 -0400, /BeeNeR/:

I used to be able to move my cursor and right click on a newsgroup 
then select 'mark news group read", left click and message count would 
disappear.


With 1.1.16 the same process moves my selection back to the news group 
that was selected and still highlighted before I moved the cursor to 
the newsgroup I wanted to mark read.


In other words I could previously mark a newsgroup 'read' without 
having to 'open' the newsgroup with a 'left click'.


I could reproduce your problem by not opening the group I would like to 
mark as read, at all.  If I just open the group then open another one, I 
can mark the former as read using a right-click.  Can you confirm this 
was not a case with previous SeaMonkey versions?  Could it be a 
temporary index file problem?


Could be a temporary index file problem as after opening couple of 
groups, then restarting SeaMonkey I can mark them as read using 
right-click.  The rest of the groups I haven't opened yet (for some 
time) I can't mark as read using right-click.


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Re: 1.1.16 - News Group Problem

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sun, 05 Apr 2009 06:06:43 -0400, /BeeNeR/:

I used to be able to move my cursor and right click on a newsgroup then 
select 'mark news group read", left click and message count would disappear.


With 1.1.16 the same process moves my selection back to the news group 
that was selected and still highlighted before I moved the cursor to the 
newsgroup I wanted to mark read.


In other words I could previously mark a newsgroup 'read' without having 
to 'open' the newsgroup with a 'left click'.


I could reproduce your problem by not opening the group I would like 
to mark as read, at all.  If I just open the group then open another 
one, I can mark the former as read using a right-click.  Can you 
confirm this was not a case with previous SeaMonkey versions?  Could 
it be a temporary index file problem?


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Re: 1.1.16 - News Group Problem

[NoOp]

On 04/05/2009 03:06 AM, BeeNeR wrote:
> I used to be able to move my cursor and right click on a newsgroup then
> select 'mark news group read", left click and message count would disappear.
> 
> With 1.1.16 the same process moves my selection back to the news group
> that was selected and still highlighted before I moved the cursor to the
> newsgroup I wanted to mark read.
> 
> In other words I could previously mark a newsgroup 'read' without having
> to 'open' the newsgroup with a 'left click'.
> 
> Ed

Works for me (1.1.16 linux).

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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

[asmpgmr]

Bob wrote:
> asmpgmr wrote:
> > Actually it *is* a SeaMonkey issue. This is caused by the file locale/
> > en-US/global/fontpackage.properties within en-US.jar which contains
> > the following lines:
> >
> > # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (handled_languages): DONT_TRANSLATE
> > handled_languages=ja, ko, zh-tw, zh-cn
> > name_ja=Japanese Text Display
> > name_ko=Korean Text Display
> > name_zh-tw=Traditional Chinese Text Display
> > name_zh-cn=Simplified Chinese Text Display
> > # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ja), MB is megabytes
> > size_ja=5.3 MB
> > # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ko), MB is megabytes
> > size_ko=2.1 MB
> > # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-tw), MB is megabytes
> > size_zh-tw=3.9 MB
> > # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-cn), MB is megabytes
> > size_zh-cn=4.4 MB
> > cancelButtonNoDownload=OK
> > windowTitleNoDownload=Install Font
> >
> > If you extract this file from en-US.jar (it is just a .zip file) and
> > blank out the handled_languages line and then re-add it to en-US.jar
> > then the problem will go away. Note this issue does not occur with
> > SeaMonkey 2.0a as the font manager is different.
> >
> > Frankly I don't understand why this was ever done in the first place.
> > Anyone who can read these languages will already have the appropriate
> > fonts on their system and anyone who can't won't so this is basically
> > an unnecessary nuisance.
>
> Thank you asmpgmr.
> That took care of the nuisance.

One caveat, if you update to a later version of SeaMonkey 1.1.x then
you have to reapply the fix since en-US.jar will be overwritten.
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Re: SM mail embedded sound

[hb]

/Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo/ said:
> hb wrote:
>> /Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo/ said:
>>> hb wrote:
 What is the current procedure for embedding a server-source sound 
 file in SM mail - to play on opening of the message.
>>> first, make sure you're composing in html format, then from the 
>>> composer window, click on Insert, then HTML, and put in the following
>>>  script into the box that pops up:
>>>
>>> >> src="http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3"; 
>>> type="audio/x-mpeg" frameborder="0" height="16" width="144">
>>>
>>> change the .mp3 line to whatever you want.  Click the insert button, 
>>> and you're done.
> 
>> Thanks gents.  The above embeds, but does not autostart.
> 
> sorry to say, but it does autostart.  It depends on 
> what you use. I use QT and that starts automatically. 
> What do you use?
> 

For my test file it was QT, and I found that a "play now" toggle wasn't set.
Auto-executes now.  Whether REMOTE CONTENT is blocked can also be an issue.

Thanks Peter.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.a3 Mismatched domains

[Robert Kaiser]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Its still not working, maybe because its a numbered IP?


That shouldn't matter.

Robert Kaiser
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Re: SM mail embedded sound

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

hb wrote:

/Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo/ said:

hb wrote:
What is the current procedure for embedding a server-source sound 
file in SM mail - to play on opening of the message.
first, make sure you're composing in html format, then from the 
composer window, click on Insert, then HTML, and put in the following

 script into the box that pops up:

src="http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3"; 
type="audio/x-mpeg" frameborder="0" height="16" width="144">


change the .mp3 line to whatever you want.  Click the insert button, 
and you're done.



Thanks gents.  The above embeds, but does not autostart.


sorry to say, but it does autostart.  It depends on 
what you use. I use QT and that starts automatically. 
What do you use?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.a3 Mismatched domains

[Leonidas Jones]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Martin Feitag wrote:

=> Preferences
=> ...Privacy...
=> Certificates
=> Manage Certificates
=> "Server" tab
=> Add Exception

Martin


Sorry this just looped endlessly as the SM attempted to verify the
server.


If it's not a web server, you need to enter host:port, e.g.
news.example.org:563, in there (yes, we know that sucks a bit as UI, but
we don't have anything better yet, only ideas floating around).

Robert Kaiser


Its still not working, maybe because its a numbered IP?

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Re: Delete Local Folders?

[Leonidas Jones]

John Doue wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 04.04.2009 11:01, Tom Pamin wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Chris Ilias wrote:

On 4/4/09 11:35 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 4/4/09 11:20 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

What's the easiest way to delete Local Folders? They're
driving me nuts.
I fiinally did get them to go away following instructions on
the web,
but they keep coming back. I don't think I'm editing about:config
correctly.


Yes, but it's not recommended. See
.


I've tried that - no luck.


Just to note: The instructions say to edit prefs.js, not
about:config. When you say "I don't think I'm editing
about:config correctly", were you referring to those instructions?


The instructions also mention about:config at the beginning.


Also be aware that if you create a new account, it will contain
Local Folders.


I finally got it to stay gone by repeating the instructions several
more times.

Just a suggestion.

I went through those hoops a long time ago, while I was still using
Netscape and it took me a long time to get this to work to my liking.
Eventually, I decided to live with those controversial local Folders.

As bookmarks in FF 3.xx today, Local Folders were then a very popular
topic; lots of people did not understand why they are there, and as
is the case for bookmarks in FF 3.xx today, others easily got
offended when users remarked on the complexity.

I eventually decided to use Local Folders as a storage place for my
Email Archives. This way, my archives are never far away when I need
them, but they are not in the way when I don't need them, which is
99% of the time. Getting rid of Local Folders is satisfying, sure,
but making the best use of them is probably a wiser course of action.
My experience at least!

Regards


removing local folders may cause problems down the road, as other
things may require them. For example, newsgroups use the local folders


I have personally set up my newsgroups to use a specific directory, as
anybody can. Did you actually mean that, by default, newsgroup are set
up to use Local Folders? If this is the case, then this would not be
enough of a reason not to suppress local folders. I personally do not
know of any imperative reason not to delete them, but I do know one can
put them to good use.

As I said, I have learnt to live with them and make good use of them; I
do not use them for any account, just for my email archives. This helps
separating current emails from older ones, allows for segragate backups,
and helps avoid the build-up of huge files that sometimes cause
problems, especially in the Inbox.

Of course, this is only one way among others to use this feature.



Sernt messages and drafts form newsgroup posts all go to Local Folders 
by default.


Lee
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Re: MLB websites

[Leonidas Jones]

Pat Connors wrote:


As with the MLB home page, the New York Mets home page has Flash
elements to provide video. Install the FlashBlock extension to control
them.

The page also has very many graphics (photos, logos, banners), which
take extra time to load and display. For each graphic, SeaMonkey must
send a request to the server and wait for a response. I suspect their
server is not very fast, so loading takes a while during which the
window freezes.



Thank you. I installed the block and the window opened up quickly. I
appreciate your help.



I'm not sure that ius all there is to it.  I have whitelisted mlb.com in 
flashblock, so all the flash loads immediately, and still no slow down. 
 Still if its working for you, great.


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Re: SM mail embedded sound

[hb]

/Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo/ said:
> hb wrote:
>> What is the current procedure for embedding a server-source sound 
>> file in SM mail - to play on opening of the message.
> 
> first, make sure you're composing in html format, then from the 
> composer window, click on Insert, then HTML, and put in the following
>  script into the box that pops up:
> 
>  src="http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3"; 
> type="audio/x-mpeg" frameborder="0" height="16" width="144">
> 
> change the .mp3 line to whatever you want.  Click the insert button, 
> and you're done.
> 
>> And the procedure for embedding a local sound file?
> 
> I don't know, but if you do find your way to the other server as 
> Michael pointed out, I'm sure someone will help you there.

Thanks gents.  The above embeds, but does not autostart.
Been a long while since I visited the multimedia group;
amazed that it still exists.^

The tips I offered to others on embedding were way - back - when, and
no longer appear to work.  Appreciate the hints that helped bring me up
to date.
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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

[Bob]

asmpgmr wrote:

Actually it *is* a SeaMonkey issue. This is caused by the file locale/
en-US/global/fontpackage.properties within en-US.jar which contains
the following lines:

# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (handled_languages): DONT_TRANSLATE
handled_languages=ja, ko, zh-tw, zh-cn
name_ja=Japanese Text Display
name_ko=Korean Text Display
name_zh-tw=Traditional Chinese Text Display
name_zh-cn=Simplified Chinese Text Display
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ja), MB is megabytes
size_ja=5.3 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ko), MB is megabytes
size_ko=2.1 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-tw), MB is megabytes
size_zh-tw=3.9 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-cn), MB is megabytes
size_zh-cn=4.4 MB
cancelButtonNoDownload=OK
windowTitleNoDownload=Install Font

If you extract this file from en-US.jar (it is just a .zip file) and
blank out the handled_languages line and then re-add it to en-US.jar
then the problem will go away. Note this issue does not occur with
SeaMonkey 2.0a as the font manager is different.

Frankly I don't understand why this was ever done in the first place.
Anyone who can read these languages will already have the appropriate
fonts on their system and anyone who can't won't so this is basically
an unnecessary nuisance.


Thank you asmpgmr.
That took care of the nuisance.
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Re: MLB websites

[Melchert Fruitema]

On 05-04-2009 04:39 CET, Pat Connors composed this enchanting statement:

This is the one I use most, NY Mets site:
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=nym

I already have the autoplay on the right shut off.  It is iffy that 
the page freezes.  Sometimes it opens and then other times it 
doesn't.  When it freezes, I need to do an ctrl-alt-del to shut down 
the browser.  Then I can start it up again no problem and get on the 
MLB site without much problems.




Aternatively, install the PrefBar extension. It provides for an instant 
kill of the (loading of) flash contents on that page.


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Re: SM mail embedded sound

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

hb wrote:

What is the current procedure for embedding a server-source sound file
in SM mail - to play on opening of the message.


first, make sure you're composing in html format, then 
from the composer window, click on Insert, then HTML, 
and put in the following script into the box that pops up:


http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3";
 type="audio/x-mpeg" frameborder="0" height="16" 
width="144">


change the .mp3 line to whatever you want.  Click the 
insert button, and you're done.



And the procedure for embedding a local sound file?


I don't know, but if you do find your way to the other 
server as Michael pointed out, I'm sure someone will 
help you there.


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Re: SM mail embedded sound

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Michael Gordon wrote:

hb replied On 4/5/2009 3:37 AM


What is the current procedure for embedding a server-source sound file
in SM mail - to play on opening of the message.

And the procedure for embedding a local sound file?

Thanks


HB,

I would prefer to show you here how to embed a sound file, but that is 
not permitted on this server.  If you would join us at 
secnews.test.multimedia all of us can help you successfully embed sound 
files into an e-mail message.  


as much as its frowned upon here, but sorry, I had to 
tell him, cause a lot of people here don't know how to 
get there.


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Re: MLB websites

[Pat Connors]

As with the MLB home page, the New York Mets home page has Flash
elements to provide video.  Install the FlashBlock extension to control
them.

The page also has very many graphics (photos, logos, banners), which
take extra time to load and display.  For each graphic, SeaMonkey must
send a request to the server and wait for a response.  I suspect their
server is not very fast, so loading takes a while during which the
window freezes.



Thank you.  I installed the block and the window opened up quickly.  I 
appreciate your help.


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Re: SM mail embedded sound

[Michael Gordon]

hb replied On 4/5/2009 3:37 AM


What is the current procedure for embedding a server-source sound file
in SM mail - to play on opening of the message.

And the procedure for embedding a local sound file?

Thanks


HB,

I would prefer to show you here how to embed a sound file, but that is 
not permitted on this server.  If you would join us at 
secnews.test.multimedia all of us can help you successfully embed sound 
files into an e-mail message.  The alternative is to reply to my 
personal address in this post and I will explain and demonstrate how it 
is done in real time.


Michael
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Re: MLB websites

[David E. Ross]

On 4/4/2009 6:39 PM, Pat Connors wrote:
>> you got links to some sites?
> This is the one I use most, NY Mets site:
> http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=nym
> 
> I already have the autoplay on the right shut off.  It is iffy that the 
> page freezes.  Sometimes it opens and then other times it doesn't.  When 
> it freezes, I need to do an ctrl-alt-del to shut down the browser.  Then 
> I can start it up again no problem and get on the MLB site without much 
> problems.
> 
> My plug-ins include:
> Adobe Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in 11.0
> Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22
> 
> Thanks in advance for help.
> 

As with the MLB home page, the New York Mets home page has Flash
elements to provide video.  Install the FlashBlock extension to control
them.

The page also has very many graphics (photos, logos, banners), which
take extra time to load and display.  For each graphic, SeaMonkey must
send a request to the server and wait for a response.  I suspect their
server is not very fast, so loading takes a while during which the
window freezes.

-- 
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Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Sluggish mouse pointer

[BeeNeR]

On or about 4/5/2009 7:10 AM, Martin Feitag typed the following:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo schrieb:
>> BrunoR wrote:
>>> What makes the mouse pointer on the monitor sometimes act in a sluggish
>>> manner?
>>> It happens out of the blue, acts sluggish for a while, and then seems to
>>> repair itself.
>>> Thank you for any information.  (It is not a very important issue;  Just
>>> curious!)
>>
>> try and update your mouse drivers
>>
> 
> If that doesn't help make sure DMA access to your harddisks is enabled.
> Back in Win98 times I often noticed that the mouse was behaving
> "unsmooth" during extensive harddisk access without that being enabled.
> 

Take a look at Windows Task Manager/Processes Window.  See if agent.exe
is running.  That'll slow things up too.

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Re: Sluggish mouse pointer

[Martin Feitag]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo schrieb:

BrunoR wrote:

What makes the mouse pointer on the monitor sometimes act in a sluggish
manner?
It happens out of the blue, acts sluggish for a while, and then seems to
repair itself.
Thank you for any information.  (It is not a very important issue;  Just
curious!)


try and update your mouse drivers



If that doesn't help make sure DMA access to your harddisks is enabled.
Back in Win98 times I often noticed that the mouse was behaving 
"unsmooth" during extensive harddisk access without that being enabled.


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1.1.16 - News Group Problem

[BeeNeR]

I used to be able to move my cursor and right click on a newsgroup then
select 'mark news group read", left click and message count would disappear.

With 1.1.16 the same process moves my selection back to the news group
that was selected and still highlighted before I moved the cursor to the
newsgroup I wanted to mark read.

In other words I could previously mark a newsgroup 'read' without having
to 'open' the newsgroup with a 'left click'.

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SM mail embedded sound

[hb]

What is the current procedure for embedding a server-source sound file
in SM mail - to play on opening of the message.

And the procedure for embedding a local sound file?

Thanks
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Re: Delete Local Folders?

[John Doue]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 04.04.2009 11:01, Tom Pamin wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Chris Ilias wrote:

On 4/4/09 11:35 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 4/4/09 11:20 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
What's the easiest way to delete Local Folders? They're driving 
me nuts.
I fiinally did get them to go away following instructions on 
the web,

but they keep coming back. I don't think I'm editing about:config
correctly.


Yes, but it's not recommended. See
.


I've tried that - no luck.


Just to note: The instructions say to edit prefs.js, not 
about:config. When you say "I don't think I'm editing about:config 
correctly", were you referring to those instructions?


The instructions also mention about:config at the beginning.


Also be aware that if you create a new account, it will contain 
Local Folders.


I finally got it to stay gone by repeating the instructions several 
more times.

Just a suggestion.

I went through those hoops a long time ago, while I was still using 
Netscape and it took me a long time to get this to work to my liking. 
Eventually, I decided to live with those controversial local Folders.


As bookmarks in FF 3.xx today, Local Folders were then a very popular 
topic; lots of people did not understand why they are there, and as is 
the case for bookmarks in FF 3.xx today, others easily got offended 
when users remarked on the complexity.


I eventually decided to use Local Folders as a storage place for my 
Email Archives. This way, my archives are never far away when I need 
them, but they are not in the way when I don't need them, which is 99% 
of the time. Getting rid of Local Folders is satisfying, sure, but 
making the best use of them is probably a wiser course of action. My 
experience at least!


Regards


removing local folders may cause problems down the road, as other things 
may require them.  For example, newsgroups use the local folders


I have personally set up my newsgroups to use a specific directory, as 
anybody can. Did you actually mean that, by default, newsgroup are set 
up to use Local Folders? If this is the case, then this would not be 
enough of a reason not to suppress local folders. I personally do not 
know of any imperative reason not to delete them, but I do know one can 
put them to good use.


As I said, I have learnt to live with them and make good use of them; I 
do not use them for any account, just for my email archives. This helps 
separating current emails from older ones, allows for segragate backups, 
and helps avoid the build-up of huge files that sometimes cause 
problems, especially in the Inbox.


Of course, this is only one way among others to use this feature.

--
John Doue
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