Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-16 Thread Martin Freitag
Bret Busby schrieb:

 From what I understand, auto-refreshing is an HTML or javascript
 functionality, which is interpreted by the browser, rather than being
 funtionality of the browser. Thus, it is the code on the particular
 web pages, rather than something from within SeaMonkey, that causes
 the auto-refreshing.

 In reading the weather observations web page agin, after posting the
 message above, I found that the observations are updated every ten
 minutes, and the web page reloads every five minutes. Nothing
 significantly different to what I said above, I think, but it needed
 correcting.

 Apart from using the Classic theme, and Adobe Reader, which does not
 apply to the particular web pages, I believe that I have no extensions
 of plugins installed on this installation of SeaMonkey.

 Is there a simple way of finding what, if any, extensions and/or
 plugins are insstalled and linke to a SeaMonkey installation?

type about:plugins in the address-bar.


 The news web page that refreshes when it wants to, is written in
 javascript, so I can't find the auto-refresh command.


Aaaah, thought you had the tabbrowser extensions or similar and
refrshing the tab(s).
Feel free to use the NoScript extension
or the prefbar and uncheck the Javscript checkbox of it.


 The weather observation web page that refreshes every five minutes, has
 the auto-refresh command included in the header HTML code;
 meta http-equiv=Refresh content=300 ;
 nice and simple, and easy to find.

 If SeaMonkey had a way of overruling auto-refreshing, by using a switch,
 the same way that some web browsers manage to overrule and stop pop-ups,
 it would be quite convenient, and, reduce bandwidth wastage

None that I know of, maybe someone else has another hint for that one.

I never had any problems with meta refresh, I still wonder why SM should
crash from it, SM1 without exension is usually rock-stable.
regards

Martin
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-16 Thread Bret Busby

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Martin Freitag wrote:


Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:36:50 +0200
From: Martin Freitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

Bret Busby schrieb:


From what I understand, auto-refreshing is an HTML or javascript

functionality, which is interpreted by the browser, rather than being
funtionality of the browser. Thus, it is the code on the particular
web pages, rather than something from within SeaMonkey, that causes
the auto-refreshing.

In reading the weather observations web page agin, after posting the
message above, I found that the observations are updated every ten
minutes, and the web page reloads every five minutes. Nothing
significantly different to what I said above, I think, but it needed
correcting.

Apart from using the Classic theme, and Adobe Reader, which does not
apply to the particular web pages, I believe that I have no extensions
of plugins installed on this installation of SeaMonkey.

Is there a simple way of finding what, if any, extensions and/or
plugins are insstalled and linke to a SeaMonkey installation?


type about:plugins in the address-bar.



'Installed plug-ins
Find more information about browser plug-ins at mozilla.org.
Help for installing plug-ins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org.
Adobe Reader 9.1

File name: nppdf.so
The Adobe Reader plugin is used to enable viewing of PDF and FDF 
files from within the browser.


MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
application/pdf Portable Document Formatpdf Yes
application/vnd.fdf Acrobat Forms Data Format   fdf Yes
application/vnd.adobe.xfdf 	XML Version of Acrobat Forms Data 
Format 	xfdf 	Yes
application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml 	Acrobat XML Data Package 	xdp 
Yes
application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml 	Adobe FormFlow99 Data File 	xfd 
Yes'






The news web page that refreshes when it wants to, is written in
javascript, so I can't find the auto-refresh command.



Aaaah, thought you had the tabbrowser extensions or similar and
refrshing the tab(s).
Feel free to use the NoScript extension
or the prefbar and uncheck the Javscript checkbox of it.



Used Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Scripts  Plug-ins
and unchecked
Allow scripts to
Change images
and
Disable or repace context menus
which were the only items checked to allow scripts to do things.

I then unchecked
Enable Javascript for
Navigator
then Quit, then reloaded.

I found that the previous step was superfluous, as, whenI diabled 
javascript for navigator, the options are grayed out.





The weather observation web page that refreshes every five minutes, has
the auto-refresh command included in the header HTML code;
meta http-equiv=Refresh content=300 ;
nice and simple, and easy to find.

If SeaMonkey had a way of overruling auto-refreshing, by using a switch,
the same way that some web browsers manage to overrule and stop pop-ups,
it would be quite convenient, and, reduce bandwidth wastage


None that I know of, maybe someone else has another hint for that one.

I never had any problems with meta refresh, I still wonder why SM should
crash from it, SM1 without exension is usually rock-stable.
regards

Martin
--



I did not mean to suggest that the auto-refreshing caused the frequent 
crashing.


But, the web pages that have the auto-refreshing, are left open, when 
the crashes occur.


I will see what happens now.

--
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Armadale
West Australia
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 you'll know what the answer means.
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  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
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  published by Pan Books, 1992


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Re: Lightning with SM 2 RC and TBird 3

2009-10-16 Thread INFO WG
To: Robert Kaiser

RE:

  Webdude wrote:
 I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
 install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?

You need to use a nightly from tomorrow or later, those work in RC1 and 
later.

Robert Kaiser  
 
I am of course checking as Lightning Updates the nightly code, but any word if 
or does the after Saturday Oct 17 (?) improved Lightning not only work with the 
newest SM 2 RC's, but also it still works (doesn't break anything) on say TBird 
2.x or the 3.x TBird Beta or RC's ?

That's all going to be tested here of course, but never hurts to ask around.
 
Also, the nightly server URL for Lightning (Windows) is:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/win32-xpi/
 
Thank you.

Joe

- Original Message ---

Webdude wrote:
 I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
 install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?

You need to use a nightly from tomorrow or later, those work in RC1 and 
later.

Robert Kaiser


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Subject: Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT), Webdude wrote:

 I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
 install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?

I guess you mean Lightning and I too have tried to install the newest
nightly in RC1 without success.
-- 
Jim S


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Subject: Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1
Message: 7

On 10/15/2009 04:48 PM, Jim S wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT), Webdude wrote:
 
 I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
 install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?
 
 I guess you mean Lightning and I too have tried to install the newest
 nightly in RC1 without success.

Bookmark this link if you are using linux:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/linux-xpi/
or for Windows:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/win32-xpi/
Actually, drag it to your Navigation toolbar so you'll be able to easily
find it.

From the browser: about:config
add (right click in the Preference name area  click New|Boolean)
extensions.checkCompatibility
Set it to false.

Now go to the above and and double-click the lightning.xpi - you should
then be able to install.




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Message: 8

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:43:07 -0700, David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid
wrote:

If user.js still works with SM 2


Did a search of the Seamonkey install folder and user.js does not exist

R


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Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1

2009-10-16 Thread Jim S
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:15:06 -0700, NoOp wrote:

 On 10/15/2009 04:48 PM, Jim S wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT), Webdude wrote:
 
 I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
 install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?
 
 I guess you mean Lightning and I too have tried to install the newest
 nightly in RC1 without success.
 
 Bookmark this link if you are using linux:
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/linux-xpi/
 or for Windows:
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/win32-xpi/
 Actually, drag it to your Navigation toolbar so you'll be able to easily
 find it.
 
 From the browser: about:config
 add (right click in the Preference name area  click New|Boolean)
 extensions.checkCompatibility
 Set it to false.
 
 Now go to the above and and double-click the lightning.xpi - you should
 then be able to install.

Just done that.
It installs, but still says incompatible with SM2
-- 
Jim S
Tyneside UK
 www.jimscott.co.uk
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Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1

2009-10-16 Thread Robert Kaiser

Jim S wrote:

Just done that.
It installs, but still says incompatible with SM2


Yes, that's known. Please use a nightly from today (will come up soon) 
or later.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)

2009-10-16 Thread propman

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Martin wrote:



It is possible that you over + and a grid of names comes up.  Moved
to close.


Sorry, unable to parse your syntax, even after 24 years as a 
professional translator. Can you rephrase?




Heh! That one made me go Eh too... ;-)

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Re: QuickTime Alternative/Lite v3.0.0 crashes SeaMonkey v1.1.18...

2009-10-16 Thread swsnyder
On Oct 16, 4:02 pm, Ant a...@zimage.comant wrote:
 Hello!

 CLSID, a developer for QT Alternative/Lite v3.0.0
 (http://www.codecguide.com/) and I are trying to figure out why its QT
 plug-ins crashes in SeaMonkey v1.1.18 (not v2.0 RC1).

 You can see our forum thread/conversations 
 inhttp://codecs.freeforums.org/post8953.html...

 For now, I went back to QT Lite v2.9.2. Does anyone have the latest
 Apple's bloated QuickTime version installed with SeaMonkey v1.1.18?

I found that the official v7.6.4 crashes SM 1.1.18 on a WinXP/SP3
system.  Reverted to SM v1.1.17 and all is well.

In my experience, all it takes to reproduce the problem is to enter
http://domain.com/path/to/somefile.mp3 in the URL field.  The crash
occures even if another application (say, Windows Media Player) is the
defined application for that file type.  I get the same error message
referred to in your link above.  Another way, the way it was first
reported to me, is to click on a link to an MP3 file from within an
Outlook Express message.

I didn't file a bug report because the 1.1.18 on which the problem was
seen was built by me and I didn't have time to test the official
binary release.  Now I do have time, but Quicktime won't install on
the Win2K systems I have available.
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How to block e-mail

2009-10-16 Thread ldj1002
How do I block e-mail from a certain e-mail address? I have seamonkey 
and pop mail sbcglobal.net.

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Re: QuickTime Alternative/Lite v3.0.0 crashes SeaMonkey v1.1.18...

2009-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2009 1:43 PM PT, swsnyder typed:


On Oct 16, 4:02 pm, Ant a...@zimage.comant wrote:

Hello!

CLSID, a developer for QT Alternative/Lite v3.0.0
(http://www.codecguide.com/) and I are trying to figure out why its QT
plug-ins crashes in SeaMonkey v1.1.18 (not v2.0 RC1).

You can see our forum thread/conversations 
inhttp://codecs.freeforums.org/post8953.html...

For now, I went back to QT Lite v2.9.2. Does anyone have the latest
Apple's bloated QuickTime version installed with SeaMonkey v1.1.18?


I found that the official v7.6.4 crashes SM 1.1.18 on a WinXP/SP3
system.  Reverted to SM v1.1.17 and all is well.


Interesting. What is different between v1.1.17 and v1.1.18 for QuickTime 
plugins?




In my experience, all it takes to reproduce the problem is to enter
http://domain.com/path/to/somefile.mp3 in the URL field.  The crash
occures even if another application (say, Windows Media Player) is the
defined application for that file type.  I get the same error message
referred to in your link above.  Another way, the way it was first
reported to me, is to click on a link to an MP3 file from within an
Outlook Express message.

I didn't file a bug report because the 1.1.18 on which the problem was
seen was built by me and I didn't have time to test the official
binary release.  Now I do have time, but Quicktime won't install on
the Win2K systems I have available.


Yeah, Windows 2000 SP4 is too old for QuickTime and iTunes.
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Re: QuickTime Alternative/Lite v3.0.0 crashes SeaMonkey v1.1.18...

2009-10-16 Thread Bob Fleischer

Ant wrote:

Windows 2000 SP4 is too old for QuickTime


Apple still provides downloads for QuickTime 7.1.6 for Windows which 
runs on Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4.


http://support.apple.com/kb/DL260
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL255
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Re: How to block e-mail

2009-10-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM,  ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 How do I block e-mail from a certain e-mail address? I have seamonkey and
 pop mail sbcglobal.net.

Create a message filter that deletes e-mails from that address.
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Re: QuickTime Alternative/Lite v3.0.0 crashes SeaMonkey v1.1.18...

2009-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2009 2:29 PM PT, Ant typed:

I posted this issue on 
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2201403 to see what 
happens. Maybe this is a Mozilla's bug? I will see if I can write a bug 
report too.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522801 for the bug report. :)
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-16 Thread Daniel

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Russell wrote:
Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final 
release

offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions.


SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component.

Robert Kaiser


Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been 
doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but 
she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and 
won't (and shouldn't have to) change.


Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and 
support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably 
change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize 
the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here.


Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. 
Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry 
hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality.  -JW


If what Robert says holds true, I would think the instructions for a 
Browser only installation would be easy...USE FIREFOX!!!


Daniel
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-16 Thread Daniel

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Russell wrote:
I want to continue using another newsreader and am very happy with my 
email

software (Pegasus) and do not like Firefox compared to Seamonkey.


We should make it easy to use other news readers from all I know, as for 
the mail things, I need to defer to people knowing more about that than 
I do.


Robert Kaiser


For what it's worth, Robert, I disagree with youthis time!!

Why should SeaMonkey developers provide an easy means of using another 
program to do what SM can do?? If somebody wants a Browser Only 
application, why not use a Browser Only application in the first place??


(To the SM developers, Keep up the good work, your efforts are 
appreciated!!)


Daniel
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-16 Thread Russell
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:51:23 +1000, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote:

Why should SeaMonkey developers provide an easy means of using another 
program to do what SM can do?? If somebody wants a Browser Only 
application, why not use a Browser Only application in the first place??

Because afaik Seamonkey was simply a continuation of a tradition that began with
Mozilla and then Netscape. Netscape also offered an email client that could be
used or not, as the user wished. This same philosophy of 'choice' has continued
right up to today with the current version (v1.18) of Seamonkey. 

As an open source initiative I would wonder why anyone would want to remove
choices and force an 'all or nothing' approach? That's more typical of companies
like A$$ple, Micro$$oft and Ado$$e who use that to lock users into using only
their product and make themselves wealthier as a result. It would be sad if the
final release of SM 2.0 did not offer the same tradition of choice as in the
past.

And there are many users like myself who simply do NOT like the look and feel of
Firefox. Perhaps it's the interests of the Firefox developers that's behind this
move?  Not permitting Seamonkey to work without hijacking the system email will
certainly reduce its user base (I would leave as will many others I know) and
drive Seamonkey even more quickly into oblivion. That would be a shame.

Russell
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Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1

2009-10-16 Thread NoOp
On 10/16/2009 04:25 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 Jim S wrote:
 Just done that.
 It installs, but still says incompatible with SM2
 
 Yes, that's known. Please use a nightly from today (will come up soon) 
 or later.
 
 Robert Kaiser

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/linux-xpi/
lightning.xpi   16-Oct-2009 05:24   1.1M

Works in both (linux) 2.0pre (current nightly) and 2.0 (rc1). I reset
'extensions.checkCompatibility' to 'true' on both before tesing.

Thanks

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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-16 Thread Bret Busby

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Daniel wrote:


(P.S. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In *Five* Parts)



That was dealt with by me, in a message posted to the list, in response 
to a similar claim, I believe by you, in mid-July.


My citation was correct.

See the message below.

Please desist in incorrect corrections, that are not on-topic.

--
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West Australia
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So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992



On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Bret Busby wrote:


Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:11:41 +0800 (WST)
From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Really OT - HHGTTG - was Re: OT : was  Re: Adding search engines to 
seamonkey

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Daniel wrote:

 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:55:24 +1000
 From: Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
 Subject: OT : was  Re: Adding search engines to seamonkey
 
 Bret Busby wrote:

  On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Philip Chee wrote:
  
   Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:10:52 +0800

   From: Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com
 
 snip
 
  -- 
  Bret Busby

  Armadale
  West Australia
  ..
  
  So once you do know what the question actually is,

   you'll know what the answer means.
  - Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts,
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
  
  
 
 Two things Bret:-
 
 1. Your sig de-limiter is broke (should be dash dash space), otherwise I could not have quoted it here, and,
 
 2. Hitchhiker's guide is actually a trilogy in five parts.
 


The citation is correct.

The edition was
published in 1992 by Pan Books
an imprint of Pan MacMillan Ltd
Pan MacMillan, 20 New Wharf Road, London N1 9RR
Basingstoke and Oxford
...
ISBN 0 330 31611 7.

The front cover is a picture of a bathroom wall, with a Philishave (?) 
(three-headed) electric shaver on a glass shelf, on
the left, on the right hand end of the glass shelf, is a digital watch, above 
that, is a glass hanging on the wall, containg
three toothbrushes, and between the electricity supply socket ito which the 
electric shaver is plugged, and the glass
hanging on the wall, is a mirror, containing an image of the Vogon bulldozer, 
oriented in the direction of travel from the
top right corner of the mirror, to the bottom left corner of the mirror. The 
wall tiles are coloured darkish blue.

See http://www.sfbok.se/asp/artikel.asp?VolumeID=24535 , for an illustration of 
the cover of the book.

And, the cited quote is from the topmost paragraph on page 129 of the cited 
book. It is the second sentence of the
paragraph.

The first sentence of that paragraph, is
 'Exactly!' said Deep Thought.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992


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Re: How to block e-mail

2009-10-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

How do I block e-mail from a certain e-mail address? I have seamonkey 
and pop mail sbcglobal.net.


Two basic approaches:

1) If your ISP offers this option, set up a filter on the server so the 
messages get trashed before you ever download them. This may be 
relevant: http://promo.sbcglobal.net/sbcyahoodsl/faq.html#emailQ10


2) Set up a filter on your local machine that moves the targeted 
messages to trash whenever you download them. Ideally, it also marks 
them as read. Click the account name in the folder list and choose 
Manage message filters.


The advantage of the first option is efficiency/elegance -- you don't 
waste time and resources downloading and then trashing them, and you 
can't possibly be annoyed by something you never see. The disadvantage 
is that it's permanent and unrecoverable (unless we're talking about a 
system that doesn't purge messages from trash until they've been there 
for a week or so).


The advantage of the second option is that you can periodically scan 
through your trash to make sure you're not filtering legitimate 
messages; as above, this relies on your trash-emptying settings. For 
example, my machine is set to empty trash on exit, so if I want the 
opportunity to review, I have to either do so before exiting or filter 
to junk, where messages survive for a week. The disadvantage of the 
second option, conversely, is that you spend time and resources 
downloading junk, and you might be tempted to view it and aggravate 
yourself.


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War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
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Paul B. Gallagher
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