Re: Password managers

[Bill Spikowski]

Norman Fuchs wrote:

On 3/14/2021 2:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/14/2021 1:21 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote:

I have never used a password manager, but I am being pushed to use one.
But I'd like to know if any of them are compatible with SeaMonkey. Can
someone help me, please?


Why not use the password manager that is already built into SeaMonkey?

I would definitely avoid any third-party password manager that stores
passwords on an external server or on the cloud.  Those are very
tempting targets for hackers.


The third-party password managers work (I am told) synchronously across 
devices, so I could use one both for my desktop computer (SeaMonkey) and my 
cellphone (Chrome).  And there are some websites that are just incompatible 
with SM, so I access them with Edge, usually.



I switched to Lastpass from the Seamonkey password manager, for exactly the 
reasons you cite. The last year or two has been quite a struggle with using 
Lastpass with Seamonkey; I have to use a much older version of the Lastpass 
add-on, and it's quite hard to find...



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Re: Lost bar of buttons

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Richard Owlett wrote:

On 02/26/2021 05:48 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

While moving cursor with mouse I accidentally lost the row of buttons which included 
"Get new messages"

HELP - what do I do?
SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian Linux


I get it back if running in Safe Mode.
I have never had any addons installed.





Did you accidentally hide the mail toolbar? If so, you would see a right arrow 
and a dotted pattern where the toolbar should be...
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Re: Teams in Seamonkey or FireFox?

[Bill Spikowski]

Hawker wrote:

Is there any way to get Microsoft Teams to work in Seamonkey or maybe at least 
FireFox?

When I click the link it doesn't even give me the option in SM or FireFox. 
Works in Opera but I don't really use Opera.




Are you trying to avoid using the Teams app on your computer? That seems to be 
the better way to use Teams videoconferencing, at least...
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Syncing bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

I've been using the EverSync add-on to sync bookmarks between Seamonkey and 
Firefox on various computers. Eversync lets me keep everything current, with 
the ability to continue using Seamonkey's excellent bookmark manager for 
keeping things organized.

Lately though I have to continually logout and log back in to Eversnyc after 
I've organized any new bookmarks in Seamonkey. This isn't that big a deal, but 
when I forget to do it on one computer or another, I lose my latest bookmarks.

Eversync has essentially no technical support, despite being a product that 
requires a monthly fee, so I'm unable to get any help from them.

Are there any other bookmark sync options out there that work well with 
Seamonkey?

In the past I've used Seamonkey's old internal sync; Xmarks; BookmarkSync; and 
probably a few others! But none of those options work any more.

(Firefox has its own Sync function, but I can't figure out any way to use it 
with Seamonkey.)
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Re: Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA




Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted some 
experimentation.

Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking 
"Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles.

Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields a 
not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles.

I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where there 
would have been one or more bookmarks.

I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure.

Later.



Here's how it looks on one of my computers.

It's always opened for me with two panes; it would be enormously less useful if 
the second pane wasn't available!
 


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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in 
logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to 
Netscape days.

As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no 
problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's 
what prompted my post ;/

As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder 
titles while displaying their logical tree structure?

Thank you.



My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, 
I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync 
bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly 
made the organizational effort worthwhile.

Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 
'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus 
subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the 
bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane.

But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. 
This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large 
monitor, and even better with multiple monitors!

The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited 
number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about 
subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little 
avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so 
overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't 
get started dealing with it...)



One more tip -- I now have my first-tier folder structure 'sorta' follow the 
way I organize files on my hard drive. Not that I used a brilliant method there 
either, but since I've gotten used to it over time, it made sense to mirror it 
with my bookmark folder structure. Now when I try to find something, at least I 
have only ONE idiosyncratic system to decipher
 




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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in 
logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to 
Netscape days.

As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no 
problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's 
what prompted my post ;/

As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder 
titles while displaying their logical tree structure?

Thank you.



My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, 
I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync 
bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly 
made the organizational effort worthwhile.

Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 
'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus 
subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the 
bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane.

But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. 
This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large 
monitor, and even better with multiple monitors!

The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited 
number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about 
subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little 
avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so 
overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't 
get started dealing with it...)
 
 


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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.
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Re: SeaMonkey mail and Gmail - starting today

[Bill Spikowski]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

So, my mom, has an "upstairs Mac" and "downstairs Mac" both set-up for SeaMonkey to 
"get messages" from the same @gmail.com  address.

They both retrieve all the same messages every day (for years now), to help her 
remember things, and save her the precariousness of carrying a computer up or 
down stairs.

Today she tells me the downstairs Mac didn't get any of the messages that the 
upstairs one did.

Did Google change something or was this a glitch in the matrix today, Sat Aug 
22, 2020?

I set up both Mac machines exactly the same, about four years agodon't 
really recall all that much about it100% of the time it is not a Mac or SM 
problem. IMEso I figure somebody else should have experienced this.

I have time later to do testing, but figured I'd ask first.

Anyone?
GW





It could be something not within your control, perhaps related to this issue:


Can’t send something on Gmail? If so then you’re in good company, ever since 
about midnight ET, people have been complaining about issues connecting to many 
of the G suite services, but especially Gmail.


(copied from https://www.engadget.com/gmail-is-down-053821685.html)

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Re: Installing Seamonkey 2.53.3

[Bill Spikowski]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

I'm trying to update my Seamonkey 2.49.5 installations on Win10 and Win7 
computers.

The installations seem to work fine; but then a couple hours later, I see that 
SM has regressed to version 2.49.5. This has happened twice each on two 
different Win10 computers. I've looked at the various warnings about this 
update but can't find any that would explain this behavior.

What might I be missing???


I'm not aware of specific issues, but I know that when I upgraded to 2.53.1, I 
uninstalled 2.49.5 first (as well as backing up my profiles by copying the 
contents of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey to another location).

I'm wondering if there's a possibility of you having problems with 32 and 64 
bit versions.  If your 2.49.5 is 32 bit and you're running a 64 bit installer 
for 2.53.3, I'm pretty sure the release notes instruct you to uninstall the 32 
bit version first. In Windows, 32 bit files are normally put in c:\program 
files (x86) and 64 bit files are normally put in c:\program files.

Technically, it is possible to install multiple versions of Seamonkey side by 
side (as long as you don't run them simultaneously), and I have done this on a 
virtual machine.

My suspicion is that you may have two versions installed, and where the 
shortcut you're using for launching Seamonkey points to the installation of 
2.49.5.

If you want to dig further, two things to look at:

1) Right-click on a Seamonkey icon, look at the Properties and go to the 
Shortcut tab, and in the Target line, note the name/location of what binary 
file is being opened.

2) Use the Explorer to check your Program Files and Program Files (x86) 
folders. Check to see which (or both) have Seamonkey folders. Check the 
properties (Details tab) of any Seamonkey.exe files to verify version numbers.

If you're seeing any indication of Seamonkey installed in multiple locations, I 
suggest making sure you uninstall all copies of Seamonkey (and Windows will 
probably also report two versions active), and then install a new copy.

Smith



Yes -- I think this turned out to be my problem!

I had 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Seamonkey installed on both machines; one 
with both versions of 2.53.3, and one with 2.53.3 and 2.49.5.

I uninstalled the 32-bit versions and adjusted the shortcuts to point to the 
64-bit versions, and both machines worked properly right away -- didn't even 
require use of my backed-up profiles.

I probably was running both versions at once. I normally keep the mail window 
open all day, and typically open and close multiple browser windows as I need 
them. The conflict probably accounted for yesterday's strange behavior of my 
POP3 email servers as well!

As always, I greatly appreciate those in this group who go to the trouble of 
helping out we the bewildered!



Be warned that "running both versions at once" is a very dangerous - ok, 
suicidal - thing to do with those two versions.
When you move from a 2.49.x (or older) version to a 2.53.x version, the profile 
undergoes some migration reformatting which renders part of it useless for 
2.49.x levels.  That is the reason for THOSE BIG WARNINGS IN RED IN THE RELEASE 
NOTES which you should have seen.
If you then do a fallback to a 2.49.x level then it will mark some of the files 
as unuseable and rename them, replacing them with valid files with no content.  
I'm rather assuming that going forwards again will cause those no-content files 
to be migrated in turn, you will have lost your original data.
The Release Notes are slightly misleading here in that there are imho no 
problems switching between 2.53.x (or 2.49.x) releases, just when you switch 
between the two families.



Yes -- I saw the clear warnings about NOT going back after updating -- that's 
why I was so concerned when it seemed to be happening to me, despite my best 
efforts to avoid it...

I seem to have suffered few if any ill effects; maybe because I never tried to "go 
back." When I was (inadvertently) running 2.49 again, I did notice difficulties with 
my POP mail server; but once I deleted the 2.49 version and both of my 32-bit versions, 
those problems disappeared.

I keep rigorous daily backups, otherwise I'd be petrified to update important 
software at all!


 


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Re: Printing Problems

[Bill Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/12/2020 7:20 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

I continue to have problems printing pages with SM. I usually only get
maybe one page printed out of 3. Edge seems to work fine. Anyone else
having trouble? Solutions?



I often see this with certain newspaper Web sites.  It is a function of
the site.  I think in some cases it is intentionally trying to prevent
printing in order to protect the site's copyright.  Other cases are
merely very bad HTML.

On rare occasions, I can print what I want by disabling JavaScript (not
Java, which is different).  Otherwise, I [right-click > Select All >
Copy] and then paste into a plain-text editor (ususally Wordpad).  I
must then adjust the paragraph spacing and sometimes the font before
printing from the editor.



Sometimes I find that I can print an 'unprintable' or awkward page using the "Print 
Friendly" add-on. On other pages, Seamonkey native printing ability does a better 
job. I often experiment with both when trying to print something of importance.

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Re: Installing Seamonkey 2.53.3

[Bill Spikowski]

NFN Smith wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

I'm trying to update my Seamonkey 2.49.5 installations on Win10 and Win7 
computers.

The installations seem to work fine; but then a couple hours later, I see that 
SM has regressed to version 2.49.5. This has happened twice each on two 
different Win10 computers. I've looked at the various warnings about this 
update but can't find any that would explain this behavior.

What might I be missing???


I'm not aware of specific issues, but I know that when I upgraded to 2.53.1, I 
uninstalled 2.49.5 first (as well as backing up my profiles by copying the 
contents of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey to another location).

I'm wondering if there's a possibility of you having problems with 32 and 64 
bit versions.  If your 2.49.5 is 32 bit and you're running a 64 bit installer 
for 2.53.3, I'm pretty sure the release notes instruct you to uninstall the 32 
bit version first. In Windows, 32 bit files are normally put in c:\program 
files (x86) and 64 bit files are normally put in c:\program files.

Technically, it is possible to install multiple versions of Seamonkey side by 
side (as long as you don't run them simultaneously), and I have done this on a 
virtual machine.

My suspicion is that you may have two versions installed, and where the 
shortcut you're using for launching Seamonkey points to the installation of 
2.49.5.

If you want to dig further, two things to look at:

1) Right-click on a Seamonkey icon, look at the Properties and go to the 
Shortcut tab, and in the Target line, note the name/location of what binary 
file is being opened.

2) Use the Explorer to check your Program Files and Program Files (x86) 
folders. Check to see which (or both) have Seamonkey folders. Check the 
properties (Details tab) of any Seamonkey.exe files to verify version numbers.

If you're seeing any indication of Seamonkey installed in multiple locations, I 
suggest making sure you uninstall all copies of Seamonkey (and Windows will 
probably also report two versions active), and then install a new copy.

Smith



Yes -- I think this turned out to be my problem!

I had 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Seamonkey installed on both machines; one 
with both versions of 2.53.3, and one with 2.53.3 and 2.49.5.

I uninstalled the 32-bit versions and adjusted the shortcuts to point to the 
64-bit versions, and both machines worked properly right away -- didn't even 
require use of my backed-up profiles.

I probably was running both versions at once. I normally keep the mail window 
open all day, and typically open and close multiple browser windows as I need 
them. The conflict probably accounted for yesterday's strange behavior of my 
POP3 email servers as well!

As always, I greatly appreciate those in this group who go to the trouble of 
helping out we the bewildered!
 


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Re: Installing Seamonkey 2.53.3

[Bill Spikowski]

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

I'm trying to update my Seamonkey 2.49.5 installations on Win10 and Win7 
computers.

The installations seem to work fine; but then a couple hours later, I see that 
SM has regressed to version 2.49.5. This has happened twice each on two 
different Win10 computers. I've looked at the various warnings about this 
update but can't find any that would explain this behavior.

What might I be missing???

One thing you have to be on the watch for with Windows 10 is that it will do a 
non-administrator one-user installation if you don't make sure that the 
installation is running as administrator.  That is a valid installation, but it 
does not replace the previous for-all installation, so you have two.

Bob



Well, I didn't know that!

If that is what's happening, I'm not seeing any way to choose which version to 
launch. I've been using SM nearly forever and have always been able to use the 
same-old desktop quick-launch and shortcut icons to launch the new version.

If I could find a way to launch just the new version, I could just start using 
that method and ignoring the previous methods.

I just tried installing 2.53.3 using the "run as administrator" option, which I 
hadn't done before. But the result seems to be the same, so there may be some other 
problem as well...
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Installing Seamonkey 2.53.3

[Bill Spikowski]

I'm trying to update my Seamonkey 2.49.5 installations on Win10 and Win7 
computers. 

The installations seem to work fine; but then a couple hours later, I see that 
SM has regressed to version 2.49.5. This has happened twice each on two 
different Win10 computers. I've looked at the various warnings about this 
update but can't find any that would explain this behavior.

What might I be missing???
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Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER

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Marion Walther wrote:

I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access anything. Cannot 
even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to go to Firefox to do my banking. 
I have used SeaMonkey since NetScape and have my own domain so I want to 
continue my email client in SM.



If the problem is limited to your bank or just a few sites, why not just 
Firefox for those sites?

You can still use SM for your email, and for your general browsing.

I probably have half a dozen sites that don't open properly in SM any more; but 
I also have sites that won't open in Firefox, or in Chrome, but open fine in SM 
-- so using more than one browser now seems inevitable...

The gurus here may be able to get you onto your bank site with SM, but it seems 
the same problem will happen on other sites over time.
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Re: Webcam with Seamonkey?

[Bill Spikowski]

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I was attempting to use zoom in the browser, I have a need to use webex as 
well. I also tried to use some of the camera test websites and they give me a 
error that my browser is not compatible.



Is there some reason you want to use your browser?

My general experience is that native conferencing apps work better than web 
browsers (and not just Seamonkey). The conferencing companies tout the ease of 
using a web broswer, but that hasn't been my experience
 









Bill Spikowski wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Like many people I have been doing web conferences lately. I added a USB camers 
to my desktop, so I could participate more easily. It generally works fine 
except it does not seem to work in seamonkey. I feel I must be missing 
something. The camera does work in other browsers.

What am I doing worng?



How are you trying to use your camera in Seamonkey?

Are you trying to use a service like Webex or Zoom through your SM browser 
rather than through their native apps?

Or something else?




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Re: Webcam with Seamonkey?

[Bill Spikowski]

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Like many people I have been doing web conferences lately. I added a USB camers 
to my desktop, so I could participate more easily. It generally works fine 
except it does not seem to work in seamonkey. I feel I must be missing 
something. The camera does work in other browsers.

What am I doing worng?



How are you trying to use your camera in Seamonkey?

Are you trying to use a service like Webex or Zoom through your SM browser 
rather than through their native apps?

Or something else?
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Re: thunderbird alternative for android tablet

[Bill Spikowski]

David H. Durgee wrote:

My wife is having problems with the email app on her android tablet.  I
would have liked to install thunderbird there, but it appears that
unlike firefox it is not available yet for android.

What email app for android can I set her up with for a verizon.net email
address?  The current app was set up with pop, I might try IMAP with the
new one in hope that it works better.

Of course seamonkey would be even better, but I know that is unavailable
for android and given the limited development team out of the question.



For Android phones and tablets, I'm partial to K-9 Mail:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9

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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[Bill Spikowski]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Mark B wrote:

Windows 10
SM 23.49.5

The SM Data Manager on my wife's machine isn't working right.  When it's called 
up, there's a long period of not allowing any entry in the 'Search Domains' 
field, followed by more time where it says (Not Responding) when it goes dim, 
then after about 45 seconds, allowing entry in the 'Search Domains' field, and 
everything is working.  This happens every time it is called.

Any ideas?


 From the release notes 
:


If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when 
opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your 
profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain data stored 
by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if 
the information is needed please back up the files before deleting them. The 
problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. 
This problem is been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But 
the problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, because 
this component is also used for managing cookies, site preferences permissions 
and other settings.






THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THIS TIP!

My existing webappsstore.sqlite file was 35 MB. After deleting it, it was 
recreated at only 32 KB.

Now the data manager works again -- the way it did many years ago!
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Re: Lastpass addon for SM on win 10

[Bill Spikowski]

Ken Harris wrote:

I've used Lastpass for years as addon under Win 7. Just moved to Win 10 and 
cannot install. Lastpass says it's only available for Firefox. Is this true?



Sorta -- but you can get an older version of Lastpass to work (mostly) with SM 
under Win 10. Search the archives of this newsgroup for hints about which 
version can still be made to work; sorry I don't have that information handy.

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Re: Does SeaMonkey have a sync feature like in Firefox?

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Ant wrote:

To share my bookmarks, histories, etc. between multiple devices (e.g., Windows, 
Linux, iOS, etc.)?



Sharing bookmarks is really important to me. I've tried a few third-party 
alternatives for that purpose; the one that works best for me is Everhelper:
https://www.everhelper.me/synchronizer.php

Everhelper also works with Firefox & Chrome -- both of which I dislike, but 
have to use more and more often to reach all the sites I access regularly. And it 
works with Android too.

But Everhelper won't help with histories, etc.; and it's definitely not free, 
nor trouble-free...

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Re: Google Earth

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batroo...@gmail.com wrote:


Running win 10 on a Dell 530s desktop.
I have been trying to load GE from a new download. I get the message that "This app 
cannot run on your PC" I have also tried a new version of Google Earth Pro with 
similar results.
The closest I got was GE open with the side bar and the portion that should 
contain an image of the Earth but it is all black, no planet earth. If I enter 
a location it does nothing at all.
Is there a way to get Google Earth or even Google Earth Pro up and running on 
my PC? Thank you.





Try running Google Earth in a Chrome browser
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Re: Mail filter problem

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Paul Marwick wrote:

I have several accounts in Seamonkey mail. One of them is to a small business 
that I do some sub contract work for, maintaining a number of mail/file servers 
for other small businesses in the area. The account it an Imap account which is 
mainly used for admin messages from the other servers. Its running on 
Nethserver 7.6.

Last week, the hard drive in the server showed signs of developing problems. I 
pulled the drive, cloned it and set the whole thing up on a new hard drive. No 
problems there. But, the mail filters that I use to sort incoming mail are no 
longer working on incoming mail. I can manually run them, and have them work, 
but it no longer happens unless I do that - no automatic filtering at all...

I've got the same problem on the same machine with a Thunderbird account I use 
as well. I've seen this happen in the past when changes have been made to a 
mail server, but can't remember what I did to fix the problem. Any suggestions 
would be very useful indeed




This happens to me when I create new receiving folders on my hard drive (even 
if the new folder has exactly the same name).

I'd love to hear of an easier fix; when this happens to me, I have to 
'reselect' the receiving folder for each filter.

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Re: Created New Profile & Full Add-on Manager Not Displaying W10 Pro/SM 2.494

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/2/19 6:53 PM, bono1...@gnomail.com wrote:

Hello all - I created new profiles after previous ones got corrupted in SM 
2.49.4.

Each time I try to access Add-On Manger, while the page appears, I cannot access "Get 
Add-ons" page only the display "What are Add-ons?".

I can see and access Extensions,Appearance and Plugins.

Any ideas or suggestions?

TIA - bo1953


That is the "Get Add-ons" page.

Mine has one extension listed under "Featured Add-ons", with "Up & Coming" and "More 
ways to customize" sections on the right side of the page.

You don't have that on your "Get Add-ons" page? 



I have this same problem -- all I get on the "Get Add-ons" page is a grey box titled 
"What are Add-ons?" with a simple explanation of add-ons, and a note that this pane will 
feature popular add-ons 'when you're connected to the internet'

(This has been a problem for me for quite some time -- not a recent occurrence.)


If you click "Browse all add-ons" at the lower right, you get this page:
<https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/>

The default subset is "Featured," many of which are grayed out (not compatible with SM), but you can also choose 
"Most Users," "Top-Rated," "Newest," or pull down "More" for more options.



That's the page I always used to reach -- but now there's nothing on my screen 
to click to reach it.

Thanks for the direct link -- I'll bookmark it and use it when I'm looking for 
add-ons!
 


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Re: Created New Profile & Full Add-on Manager Not Displaying W10 Pro/SM 2.494

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/2/19 6:53 PM, bono1...@gnomail.com wrote:

Hello all - I created new profiles after previous ones got corrupted in SM 
2.49.4.

Each time I try to access Add-On Manger, while the page appears, I cannot access "Get 
Add-ons" page only the display "What are Add-ons?".

I can see and access Extensions,Appearance and Plugins.

Any ideas or suggestions?

TIA - bo1953


That is the "Get Add-ons" page.

Mine has one extension listed under "Featured Add-ons", with "Up & Coming" and "More 
ways to customize" sections on the right side of the page.

You don't have that on your "Get Add-ons" page? 



I have this same problem -- all I get on the "Get Add-ons" page is a grey box titled 
"What are Add-ons?" with a simple explanation of add-ons, and a note that this pane will 
feature popular add-ons 'when you're connected to the internet'

(This has been a problem for me for quite some time -- not a recent occurrence.)
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Re: dropbox forum fail with seamonkey

[Bill Spikowski]

meagain wrote:

https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/English/ct-p/English

displays only text with no formatting, et cetera, when using SeaMonkey.

Other browsers seem fine.  I've checked images, script settings but ...

Thanks.



It displays properly here...
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Re: LastPass

[Bill Spikowski]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2019-01-27, WaltS48 wrote:


On 1/26/19 7:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 27-01-19 01:30:

r wrote on 26-01-19 23:48:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

r wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass
that works with Seamonkey?

I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works
reasonably well; but I'm setting up a new computer and need
the *.xpi file.

There are lots of references to these older versions in
newsgroups and forums, but the links I've found are all dead.


For the dead links you might try
Internet Archive: Wayback Machine
http://archive.org/web/web.php




(None of the 4.n.n versions work with Seamonkey, even with
the extension converter.)





Thanks - I should have thought of that!

But in this case it didn't work; all the earlier versions have
been scrubbed from the Lastpass website, and for some reason I
can't find them on Wayback either.

If you have on your other computer, go to where your profile is
stored.
Expand folder, click on extensions, find the extension that you want.
Copy it to your desktop. Then drag into SeaMonkey. (while
SeaMonkey  is running on your new computer.



Drag it into Seamonkey how?

It won't import using the add-on manager.

I copied into the profile folder "Extensions"; no luck.

I literally dragged into a SM browser window, and it opened the
folder to show its subfolders, but nothing more


Have the .xpi file on your desktop.
Minimize the SeaMonkey window to about 1/2 of your screen size
You may have to drag the lower right corner to do this.
It's 6 small dots in the shape of a triangle.
Then with SeaMonkey opened in the smaller window drag the .xpi
file into   SeaMonkey.
Drag is to hold down the right mouse button and move the file to
where you want it.
Rodney

I think that the last sentence must be:
Drag is to hold down the LEFT mouse button and move the file to
where you want it.

Another method could work also:
In SM Browser part go to "File" - "Open File.." Browse ...and select
the .xpi file then click on "OPEN"


Whatever happened to:

Save the file to your Downloads folder
Open SeaMonkey
Click Tools > Add-ons Manager
Select Extensions
Click the gear wheel next to the "Search all add-ons" search bar
Click "Install Add-on From File"
When the file manager window opens select the Downloads folder
Select the extension and install it.




All these instructions are for XPI files. What Bill has is a *folder*.

After confirming that the contents of the folder do look like an
extension, there are two ideas:

- Zip the contents of that LastPass folder, rename the ZIP archive .XPI,
   and use that file to install

- Copy that LastPass extension folder to the extensions/ folder of the
   new profile

But, from what I read, Bill has already tried the second one. Does it
show up in about:addons? Did Seamonkey print any error message the first
time it started with the LastPass directory under extensions/ ?

I think Seamonkey should have asked you about installing LastPass if it
did recognize the extension.




It's working now -- using this method:

Zip the contents of that LastPass folder, rename the ZIP archive .XPI,
and use that file to install


Thank you so much!

 


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Re: LastPass

[Bill Spikowski]

r wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass that works with 
Seamonkey?

I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works reasonably well; 
but I'm setting up a new computer and need the *.xpi file.

There are lots of references to these older versions in newsgroups and forums, 
but the links I've found are all dead.


For the dead links you might try
Internet Archive: Wayback Machine
http://archive.org/web/web.php




(None of the 4.n.n versions work with Seamonkey, even with the extension 
converter.)





Thanks - I should have thought of that!

But in this case it didn't work; all the earlier versions have been scrubbed 
from the Lastpass website, and for some reason I can't find them on Wayback 
either.

If you have on your other computer, go to where your profile is stored.
Expand folder, click on extensions, find the extension that you want.
Copy it to your desktop. Then drag into SeaMonkey. (while SeaMonkey  is running 
on your new computer.



Drag it into Seamonkey how?

It won't import using the add-on manager.

I copied into the profile folder "Extensions"; no luck.

I literally dragged into a SM browser window, and it opened the folder to show 
its subfolders, but nothing more
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Re: LastPass

[Bill Spikowski]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2019-01-25, Bill Spikowski wrote:


r wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass that works with 
Seamonkey?

I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works
reasonably well; but I'm setting up a new computer and need the
*.xpi file.

There are lots of references to these older versions in
newsgroups and forums, but the links I've found are all dead.

[...]

If you have on your other computer, go to where your profile is stored.
Expand folder, click on extensions, find the extension that you want.
Copy it to your desktop. Then drag into SeaMonkey. (while SeaMonkey  is running 
on your new computer.


I go into this folder and find quite a few *.xpi files for known
extensions; but none for Lastpass. Same on my laptop.

There are also a dozen or so *.xpi with random strings of characters
before the extension; one of those may be hiding Lastpass, but I can't
find any evidence of it.

[...]

Check the extensions table in about:support - here it looks like the
values in the "ID" column are the names (without ".xpi") of the
extension files.




Maybe I've found it with this tip!

The ID column says "supp...@lastpass.com" -- a folder I had noticed, but didn't 
know what to do with.

I tried adding in xpi extension, but that didn't fool SM into adding it as an 
extension.

I tried adding a zip extension to see if it needed unzipping, but it didn't.

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Re: LastPass

[Bill Spikowski]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

r wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass that works with 
Seamonkey?

I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works reasonably well; 
but I'm setting up a new computer and need the *.xpi file.

There are lots of references to these older versions in newsgroups and forums, 
but the links I've found are all dead.


For the dead links you might try
Internet Archive: Wayback Machine
http://archive.org/web/web.php




(None of the 4.n.n versions work with Seamonkey, even with the extension 
converter.)





Thanks - I should have thought of that!

But in this case it didn't work; all the earlier versions have been scrubbed 
from the Lastpass website, and for some reason I can't find them on Wayback 
either.

If you have on your other computer, go to where your profile is stored.
Expand folder, click on extensions, find the extension that you want.
Copy it to your desktop. Then drag into SeaMonkey. (while SeaMonkey  is running 
on your new computer.



I think the wayback machine is good for static html pages - even with embedded 
images, but I'm not sure about anything else.  Looking for old program versions 
is probably not going to work.




I think you're right. Wayback is a genuine treasure -- but this must be asking 
too much!
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Re: LastPass

[Bill Spikowski]

r wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass that works with 
Seamonkey?

I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works reasonably well; 
but I'm setting up a new computer and need the *.xpi file.

There are lots of references to these older versions in newsgroups and forums, 
but the links I've found are all dead.


For the dead links you might try
Internet Archive: Wayback Machine
http://archive.org/web/web.php




(None of the 4.n.n versions work with Seamonkey, even with the extension 
converter.)





Thanks - I should have thought of that!

But in this case it didn't work; all the earlier versions have been scrubbed 
from the Lastpass website, and for some reason I can't find them on Wayback 
either.

If you have on your other computer, go to where your profile is stored.
Expand folder, click on extensions, find the extension that you want.
Copy it to your desktop. Then drag into SeaMonkey. (while SeaMonkey  is running 
on your new computer.



I go into this folder and find quite a few *.xpi files for known extensions; 
but none for Lastpass. Same on my laptop.

There are also a dozen or so *.xpi with random strings of characters before the 
extension; one of those may be hiding Lastpass, but I can't find any evidence 
of it.

I've put the Lastpass extension into Firefox and Chrome, so I'm able to use my 
zillions of passwords -- but already I'm missing many features of the Seamonkey 
browser interface!
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Re: LastPass

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass that works with 
Seamonkey?

I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works reasonably well; 
but I'm setting up a new computer and need the *.xpi file.

There are lots of references to these older versions in newsgroups and forums, 
but the links I've found are all dead.


For the dead links you might try
Internet Archive: Wayback Machine
http://archive.org/web/web.php




(None of the 4.n.n versions work with Seamonkey, even with the extension 
converter.)





Thanks - I should have thought of that!

But in this case it didn't work; all the earlier versions have been scrubbed 
from the Lastpass website, and for some reason I can't find them on Wayback 
either.
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Moving emails to subfolders in Seamonkey 2.49.3

[Bill Spikowski]

I've had this problem before, and it's back.

I have an elaborate folder structure for storing emails, going back maybe 20 
years.

Usually it's a snap to drag one or a group of emails from my inbox to a 
subfolder. The past few days (on several computers running Win 7 or Win10), the 
focus often changes to the subfolder after I drag an email. This happens most 
often when the system pauses for moment when the email being moved is hovering 
over the subfolder.

I've always assumed that when this happens, the receiving subfolder has gotten 
too large, causing the pause -- so I regularly organize the subfolders so that 
the top-level receiving subfolders don't have too many messages, and I keep 
them compacted.

My usual tricks aren't working any more; I'm wondering if there might be 
something else causing this behavior?
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Re: Print Preview Problem

[Bill Spikowski]

rjkrjk wrote:

SM 2.494 (now)   QC3.0Ghz 12gb Win7 Pro

was about to print something and somehow my mouse went into scroll mode and kept
changing the printer ( use fax  for printing, and a label printer)

so .. I was able to quit and restart the print process
I entered print preview ( with the normal 8-1/2" x11 printer)  and all I saw was several 
"pages"
that were 1" x 6"... as if they were all print labels, even though the default 
printer 8-12x11 was selected

I rechecked the page setup, and eventually removed the regular printer, the 
label printer
and reinstalled the software again no change
couldnt  find an answer anywhere about how to change the erroneous print preview

FF worked OK with print preview

there were some old info (2015) about  the config file, I changed some features
as well as eventually resetting all the printer settings... nothing resolved 
the problem

I eventually restore a previous settings version  using Mozback, and all was 
well

can the config file get screwed up,and potentially be the real culprit in this 
now resolved matter
anyone have a similar problem, and resolve it any other way



The same thing happens to me occasionally -- here's my solution:

Enter "about:config"

Search for "print"

Look in the "value" column for any printers that are inexplicably set for the wrong width 
and height (in your case, 1" x 6")

Double-click those rows and set the correct width and height
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Re: "Delete" button missing in Windows 10

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/21/18 8:39 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Longtime SM user, but using SM in Windows 10 for the first time -- version 
2.49.3

I don't have a "Delete" button on the toolbar at the top of the browser window. The "Customize 
Toolbar" window doesn't have a "Delete" button that I can add to the toolbar; how can I put 
one there?

(I used to use Prefbar also, which I'm more familiar with -- but I don't have 
it working yet.)



What do you plan to Delete from the browser window?

The Delete button is for messages in the Mail & Newsgroups window.

It is located between the Junk and the Mark buttons in the Mail Toolbar in my 
SM on Win10.

Just like here:

<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/img-screen/win7/messenger.png>



Sorry, I meant the MAIL window, not the browser window!

I deleted the Mark button a while back; the Mark button is now down in the bin 
of available buttons, where I expected to find the Delete button.

I'll keep experimenting; maybe a reinstall of SM will turn it up.



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Re: "Delete" button missing in Windows 10

[Bill Spikowski]

EE wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Longtime SM user, but using SM in Windows 10 for the first time -- version 
2.49.3

I don't have a "Delete" button on the toolbar at the top of the browser window. The "Customize 
Toolbar" window doesn't have a "Delete" button that I can add to the toolbar; how can I put 
one there?

(I used to use Prefbar also, which I'm more familiar with -- but I don't have 
it working yet.)


If you want to delete mail or sent messages, you can use the Delete key on the 
keyboard, or you can use the File button and move messages to the trash from 
that.  There are advantages to using the File button, since it makes it easy to 
move messages between any two folders.



I've been using both of those methods since switching to Windows 10 -- but I receive and 
delete A LOT of messages, and the extra reaching and clicking for something as simple as 
"DELETE" has gotten tiresome.

I've been using SM 2.49.3 on WinXP and on Win7; both have a delete button, 
which I assumed was a native part of Seamonkey -- but could be something I 
added years ago, I just don't recall
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Re: Add-on manager in Windows 10 (SM 2.49.3)

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/21/18 8:45 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

When I go to the Add-ons Manager, then select "Get Add-on" -- I don't see any way to 
search for add-on (there's a button to BROWSE all add-ons, and a list of "Featured 
Add-ons," but no search box).

I usually end up doing a web search, but that always turns up lots of outdated 
information.



When you go to the Add-ons Manager select "Extensions", where you will see a 
search bar.

Install the AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey extension to make finding extensions 
easier.

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/amo-browsing-for-seamonkey/>



Got it -- thank you!
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Add-on manager in Windows 10 (SM 2.49.3)

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When I go to the Add-ons Manager, then select "Get Add-on" -- I don't see any way to 
search for add-on (there's a button to BROWSE all add-ons, and a list of "Featured 
Add-ons," but no search box).

I usually end up doing a web search, but that always turns up lots of outdated 
information.
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"Delete" button missing in Windows 10

[Bill Spikowski]

Longtime SM user, but using SM in Windows 10 for the first time -- version 
2.49.3

I don't have a "Delete" button on the toolbar at the top of the browser window. The "Customize 
Toolbar" window doesn't have a "Delete" button that I can add to the toolbar; how can I put 
one there?

(I used to use Prefbar also, which I'm more familiar with -- but I don't have 
it working yet.)
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

scot...@meditech.com wrote:

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 8:10:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.

What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?

I set up EverSync (https://www.everhelper.me/) on my home and work PCs.  So far 
it seems to do the job.  The FireFox 13.1.1 version of the extension works in 
SeaMonkey using the extension converter.  The free version does limit the 
number of bookmarks you can have but I thinks its like 5000.  The sync only 
runs every 30 minutes and from my own observations, probably is not as frequent 
as Xmarks but again it seems to do the job of syncing bookmarks and still 
allowing you to use the SeaMonkey Bookmark Manager.



Thanks for this suggestion -- I'm testing EverSync on several computers right 
now. Setup is a little clunky, and the syncing seems a little erratic (not 
reliably every 30 minutes as promised), but probably good enough since I get to 
keep using the Seamonkey Bookmark Manager.

Eversync also has a web interface (similar to BookmarksOS) that's nice for 
gaining access from other computer or other browsers, but nowhere near as 
elegant and flexible as the Seamonkey Bookmark Manager.

For others who may have the same trouble I did getting Eversync to work -- this 
information is critical:
https://everhelper.desk.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1941903-synchronization-buttons-are-inactive-in-firefox

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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

scot...@meditech.com wrote:



Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.

What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?



I wonder if the "Use own server" option in Xmarks will still function after May 
1?



Hard to know -- here's the official announcement, which doesn't invite 
questions:

Xmarks update On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account 
will remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should remain 
available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no longer sync and 
your Xmarks account will be deactivated. *There will be no impact to your 
LastPass Premium account*. In addition, any remaining balance previously paid 
towards Xmarks will be applied as a credit towards your LastPass Premium 
account.

At LastPass, we’ve staked our claim in password management, and providing our 
community with a high level of password security. After careful consideration 
and evaluation, we have decided to discontinue the Xmarks solution so that we 
can continue to focus on offering the best possible password vaulting to our 
community.

On behalf of the entire LastPass and Xmarks team, we wanted to thank you for your support over the years. If 
you have any questions about your account or LastPass credit, please do not hesitate to reach out to 
https://lastpass.com/supportticket.php 
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?



Has anyone used "Bookmarks OS" with Seamonkey? It doesn't sync bookmarks 
directly, but seems to offer similar functionality, and it would let me view my bookmarks 
in different browsers (something Xmarks promised, but could never reliably deliver for 
the Chrome browser).


Actually it's "Bookmark OS" -- I signed up and think it will do the job for me, 
with my bookmarks on a secure web page that's accessible from all browsers and mobile 
devices.

But I'll surely miss the Seamonkey 'Bookmark Manager,' a wonderful 
implementation for managing complex sets of bookmarks
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/3/2018 at 8:47 AM, Bill Spikowski created this epitome of digital genius:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at the same 
time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile (which includes the 
bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that folder on multiple computers 
through the cloud service.

I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and laptop 
are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my current bookmarks 
(and emails!) are there; when I return home, everything I did on the road is 
already on my desktop.  -JW


I hadn't ever considered doing that; I see how it could work.

But I notice that Seamonkey sometimes doesn't shut down properly; a process is 
still running in the background. I'd hardly even notice but when that happens, 
the email module keeps downloading IMAP messages from the server, which means I 
can't see new messages from my other computers. That's not really a big 
problem, but I'm trying to imagine what might happen if my profile is located 
on a cloud service and SM is still running on another computer...


I've never had to kill SM, never seen it refuse to close.  It does sometimes 
take 10 or 15 seconds to shut down as it's doing some housekeeping.


I suppose this problem could be related to my quite old profiles.

It happens most often on my office WinXP computer (an invisible SM process is 
still running the next morning!), but it occasionally happens on two of my Win7 
machines too.

Glad to hear this problem isn't widespread!
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?



Has anyone used "Bookmarks OS" with Seamonkey? It doesn't sync bookmarks 
directly, but seems to offer similar functionality, and it would let me view my bookmarks 
in different browsers (something Xmarks promised, but could never reliably deliver for 
the Chrome browser).
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

EE wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?



You can export bookmarks as HTML and import them into another browser. You can 
do that with both browsers if you want all the bookmarks from both in the same 
places.


EE and Ant -- I've used both methods in the past, and may have to go there 
again! But I'm constantly adding bookmarks on one computer for say articles I 
want to read, and then reading them later in the day or the next day at home, 
then filing the bookmarks for future reference. That's why I'm looking for some 
way to continually sync my bookmarks. Xmarks was a little quirky to say the 
least, but it did the job, and I'll sure miss it!

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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at the same 
time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile (which includes the 
bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that folder on multiple computers 
through the cloud service.

I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and laptop 
are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my current bookmarks 
(and emails!) are there; when I return home, everything I did on the road is 
already on my desktop.  -JW


I hadn't ever considered doing that; I see how it could work.

But I notice that Seamonkey sometimes doesn't shut down properly; a process is 
still running in the background. I'd hardly even notice but when that happens, 
the email module keeps downloading IMAP messages from the server, which means I 
can't see new messages from my other computers. That's not really a big 
problem, but I'm trying to imagine what might happen if my profile is located 
on a cloud service and SM is still running on another computer...
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Andrey ``Bass'' Shcheglov wrote:

Run your own Sync 1.1 server:





I thought Sync 1.1 was what I had been using, until it stopped working a couple 
of years ago.

Is your link about some version of 1.1 that will still work with Seamonkey?
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Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?







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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

S Slicer wrote:

Jonathan Wilson wrote:



Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a bugzilla 
bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that can be done to 
mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my plugins (I use Addblock, 
ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger and User Agent 
Switcher as extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos 
and Flash as plugins) be the cause of the problems?

I see this too.  Very noticeable on Facebook.


Same here - a problem for many years now; don't expect a fix.

I finally put a "Kill Seamonkey" icon on my desktop and use it frequently when 
things slow down.


I might add that this icon is right next to my "Kill Chrome," "Kill Opera" and "Kill 
Firefox" buttons -- all of them get bogged down from time to time.

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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

[Bill Spikowski]

S Slicer wrote:

Jonathan Wilson wrote:



Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a bugzilla 
bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that can be done to 
mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my plugins (I use Addblock, 
ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger and User Agent 
Switcher as extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos 
and Flash as plugins) be the cause of the problems?

I see this too.  Very noticeable on Facebook.


Same here - a problem for many years now; don't expect a fix.

I finally put a "Kill Seamonkey" icon on my desktop and use it frequently when 
things slow down.
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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Bill Spikowski]

Frog wrote:


Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?


Create a new folder, name it something like 'Inbox, needs attention' -- then 
move all the messages in the regular inbox to this new folder. This may take 
some time, but it will clear your regular inbox.
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Re: SeaMonkey Sync

[Bill Spikowski]

Frosted Flake wrote:

Under Edit > Preferences there is an entry for 'Sync'

Does it work?
How does one set it up (i.e. create a new sync account)?

Running under Windows 10, all updates installed and SeaMonkey version 2.48



Alas, Sync is gone!

When it stopped working, some of us switched to Xmarks, which still functions.
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Re: What's with all those Spanish or Italian Posts - pedofile ?

[Bill Spikowski]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/28/17 1:21 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Why can't the Site Manager erase them ?
Filter them out?

DoctorBill



What site manager?

Time to learn how to create a server wide or newsgroup specific filter.

My server wide filter for that spam has 17 entries.

Press the F1 function key to open the SeaMonkey Help Contents, enter filters in 
the Search box and read the section on Creating Message Filters.



Can you share your entries?

I use SM filters regularly, but don't see how to identify messages in Italian, 
or all caps, or with obvious hostility in the header!
 


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Re: Inbox Resizing Fonts

[Bill Spikowski]

Lori wrote:

"Control +"  increases content in the individual messages box,

but Is there any way to increase the fonts in the message headers inbox list 
for a vision impairment?

OR:  Is there any way of changing font sizes /separately /in each of the three 
message panels without using Magnifier?


Theme Font & Size Changer lets you adjust font sizes; doubt that it would let 
you choose different font sizes for each of the message panels...
http://barisderin.com/?p=286
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Re: Page Setup has gone wacky

[Bill Spikowski]

THIS TIME -- with the attachments!



I've developed an odd problem when trying to print from Seamonkey 2.46 (both 
browser and mail clients) on a WinXP machine. My Win7 machines behave normally.

The Print Preview box always the user to select 'portrait' or 'landscape' 
orientation even before selecting a printer. In the last few days, those 
choices are no longer their original shape -- they're drastically elongated. 
See attached screenshot.

Selecting a different scale does change the scale of the material to be 
printed, but it doesn't affect the odd paper sizes.

If I ignore the problem and print anyway, the material that shows up in Print 
Preview appears in the upper right corner of the printed page (see attached 
example).

Where does SM store the paper sizes that it displays in Print Preview? It seems 
to be separate from my Windows printer settings, since the correct paper sizes 
show up for each printer in Windows (under Printing Preferences), while the 
oddball sizes show up when I select File | Print | Properties from within 
Seamonkey -- but even when I change the paper sizes there, the elongated page 
sizes print out on paper and still show up in Print Preview.



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SEND MESSAGE ERROR: "Sending of the mail failed"`

[Bill Spikowski]

I'm suddenly getting this message regularly when trying to send emails from my 
XP computer:


Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server (SMTP) 
mail.greenviewdata.com timed out. Try again.


Is there a way I could lengthen the 'time out' period?

The SM default time-out has always been adequate for me, going back to forever, 
but maybe not any more!

I'm having no trouble sending out emails using my gmail account in Seamonkey -- 
but then they show my gmail address as the sender, which I don't want since I 
dislike gmail and almost never use it.

I've also had intermittent problems sending messages from Seamonkey in recent 
months on my Win7 computers -- but usually I get a password dialog box; if I 
reenter my password, the message goes out. My new problem on XP might have the 
same cause, but without the ability to reenter my password to work around it.
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Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP !

[Bill Spikowski]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Lately I have had SM display an empty page when I click on a link.
There is a lot in the Location Bar, but NOTHING shows up.

Here is an example:
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane=0=1=0=47660891,-117300504,4608=lcl=0ahUKEwi6zpSFocXVAhXhjFQKHUSUAhQQjGoIWA=lrf:!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:4=1


If the above shows up on someone else's screen, why not mine.
Adblocker on, Popups checked.

This is happening more and more of late.


BTW - This was from a display of Pawn Shops in my area - at the bottom was a 
link
that said "more" - implying one could see more listed by clicking the link.



So -- is this just a problem for you with the "more" link from Google Search? 
Or other links too? Or all links?

(I see this behavior only when I click a PDF link. That used to display the PDF 
file within Seamonkey using the Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat plug-in; now it 
downloads the PDF instead of showing it to me. That problem has been discussed 
before in this newsgroup; like many others, I've just had to get used to it.)



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Re: Is it possible to save draft news messages?

[Bill Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:


I suppose the question is quite clear.

If I compose a normal email message, then it is automatically saved in
the Drafts folder, and I can save it there without sending it.

Is there something similar for news messages?


Sure, why not? File | Save As | Draft. It'll show up in the Drafts folder for 
whatever account you use to post to the given newsgroup.



I don't have a "Draft" folders in any of my newsgroup accounts. When I save a 
news message without sending it, it goes into 'local folders'; I can open it from there 
and post it easily

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Re: SEND MESSAGE ERROR: "Sending of the mail failed"`

[Bill Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:



Can I change the timeout preference to 210 using about:config, instead of 
adding these new lines to user.js?



Yes.  I happen to prefer adding the lines to user.js so that I can
insert a comment (a line beginning with //) to remind me why I did it.
Using about:config does not allow for commenting changes.

My suggestion in your case illustrates my use of comments.  I originally
changed the timeout preference to 210.  While it reduced the number of
instances of timeouts with a newsgroup server, it did not eliminate
them.  I was then advised to block IPv6, which completely resolved the
problem.  I was able to see my prior change in timeouts.  Not only did I
remove that from user.js, but I also had the name of the preference
variable in order to reset it via about:config.



Got it, thanks - wanted to make sure there wasn't some other drawback if I used 
about:config.

Thanks for this suggestion. I've had no problems sending emails with this 
preference set at 210, so I'm declaring victory and moving on to the next 
conundrum!


 


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Re: SEND MESSAGE ERROR: "Sending of the mail failed"`

[Bill Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/17/2017 9:53 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

I'm suddenly getting this message regularly when trying to send emails from my 
XP computer:


Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server (SMTP) 
mail.greenviewdata.com timed out. Try again.


Is there a way I could lengthen the 'time out' period?

The SM default time-out has always been adequate for me, going back to forever, 
but maybe not any more!

I'm having no trouble sending out emails using my gmail account in Seamonkey -- 
but then they show my gmail address as the sender, which I don't want since I 
dislike gmail and almost never use it.

I've also had intermittent problems sending messages from Seamonkey in recent 
months on my Win7 computers -- but usually I get a password dialog box; if I 
reenter my password, the message goes out. My new problem on XP might have the 
same cause, but without the ability to reenter my password to work around it.



The preference variable to control timeouts is mailnews.tcptimeout.  Try
adding the following to your user.js file in your profile:
user_pref("mailnews.tcptimeout", 210);
// set connection timeout to 3.5 minutes because of slow
// response
The "210" is the number of seconds (thus 3.5 minutes) to allow before a
timeout.  You should adjust this as necessary.  The semi-colon (;) at
the end of the first line is necessary.  The second and third lines are
merely a comment to remind you why you did this.



Can I change the timeout preference to 210 using about:config, instead of 
adding these new lines to user.js?

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Re: what's going on with internet video?

[Bill Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

null wrote:


Running on XP, Seamonkey 2.46 will no longer display internet videos
from Facebook and many news sites.

Neither will Firefox 52.0.2.

Anyone know what's going on here?


Working fine here on Win7 Pro.

Insufficient info for diagnosis.



May be an XP issue -- I've been having the same problem quite a lot on an XP 
machine with SM 2.46.

But I've noticed that some videos don't play in Seamonkey even on my Win7 
machines. I've taken to copying their URLs into Chrome and watching them there, 
rather than trying to figure out what's wrong
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Re: Seamonkey Icons Revisited

[Bill Spikowski]

Each user selects which columns to show in that area, and in what order -- so 
we still don't know which icon you're asking about.

To the left of the "Subject" column, I choose to place a column that shows the junk 
status. I've never found the icon explanations you're looking for, but when I hover my mouse over 
the icon in the column heading (maybe the one you're asking about; maybe not), a tooltip pops up 
that says "Sort by Junk Status." That tooltip sure beats searching for a page somewhere 
that might explain each icon.

If that's not what you're trying to figure out, try explaining more carefully 
what you see and what you want to know -- we can't see what you're seeing, and 
yelling at your peers doesn't get you where you want to go...








MozUser wrote:

All that jabber and I did not see where anyone could tell me the meaning of 
those icons.  Are all of them defined someplace or are we just supposed to 
ignore their meaning ?  I think not otherwise why would they bother to put them 
up !

I am talking about the area where the unexpanded posts and expanded post trees are shown 
and only the icons that are in the column just to the left of the "Subject" 
column.  That's the column that has an icon in the header, under which there are only 
icons.



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Re: "Collected Addresses" in Address Book

[Bill Spikowski]

Daniel wrote:

On 23/05/2017 2:52 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

My 'collected addresses' folder in Address Book is constantly filled to
the brim.

Some of these addresses I'd like to add to my personal address book, but
most are unwanted or are duplicates or are formatted in some odd way.

I used to move all of them to my personal address book, and then
modify/delete there -- but often I end up with two listings, with no way
of knowing which is a trusty reliable email address and which may be a
dubious 'collected' address.

Is there any way to have TWO "Address Book" windows open at the same
time? That way I could compare the existing and collected addresses
before keeping or rejecting any entries.

Or is there an extension that would work like 'duplicate bookmarks'
extensions and help me untangle duplicate address entries?


Bill, I don't know a simple problem to your current problem, but I though I was 
going to be able to give a suggestion as to how to stop things getting 
worse/continuing as they are.

I think, somewhere in the prefs, you were able to select where you wanted "new" e-mail addresses to go, either 
"Collected" or "Personal" Address books. I thought it was somewhere in the Edit->Mail & Newsgroup Account 
Settings .. Ah!! There it is, ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Addressing->Email Address Collection.

Hope this helps in your future, Bill!


I had never noticed that!

Not sure what to do with it though; if I change that setting to "Personal," my 
serious address book would probably end up with duplicates, with no way to figure out 
which was the 'known good' address and which was perhaps an obsolete address that someone 
stuck in a cc: list.

Maybe I'll try it for a week and see what happens

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"Collected Addresses" in Address Book

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My 'collected addresses' folder in Address Book is constantly filled to the 
brim.

Some of these addresses I'd like to add to my personal address book, but most 
are unwanted or are duplicates or are formatted in some odd way.

I used to move all of them to my personal address book, and then modify/delete 
there -- but often I end up with two listings, with no way of knowing which is 
a trusty reliable email address and which may be a dubious 'collected' address.

Is there any way to have TWO "Address Book" windows open at the same time? That 
way I could compare the existing and collected addresses before keeping or rejecting any 
entries.

Or is there an extension that would work like 'duplicate bookmarks' extensions 
and help me untangle duplicate address entries?
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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

[Bill Spikowski]

Pat Connors wrote:



Setting up our own infrastructure, potentially in conjunction with Thunderbird, 
will cost. If you feel you can contribute towards future releases in this way, 
please consider donating:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/

I am trying to donate and I get the British Paypal which does not give option 
for dollars.  When I go to the US version, it does not recognize SeaMonkey.  
Anyone have a good link for the US version of Seamonkey Paypal?



I've never had a problem using the US version of Paypal with Seamonkey.

But you can use the British version, or any other country's; it will convert 
your donation into dollars.
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Re: Drag attachments to desktop or wherever

[Bill Spikowski]

Rick Merrill wrote:

I just discovered this works!

(ok ok  it has probably been there all along!)



And you can drag them from the desktop (or wherever) right into the Attachments 
box in a Compose window -- all very slick!
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Re: Page Setup has gone wacky

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

THIS TIME -- with the attachments!



I've developed an odd problem when trying to print from Seamonkey 2.46 (both 
browser and mail clients) on a WinXP machine. My Win7 machines behave normally.

The Print Preview box always the user to select 'portrait' or 'landscape' 
orientation even before selecting a printer. In the last few days, those 
choices are no longer their original shape -- they're drastically elongated. 
See attached screenshot.

Selecting a different scale does change the scale of the material to be 
printed, but it doesn't affect the odd paper sizes.

If I ignore the problem and print anyway, the material that shows up in Print 
Preview appears in the upper right corner of the printed page (see attached 
example).

Where does SM store the paper sizes that it displays in Print Preview? It seems to be separate from my Windows printer settings, since the correct paper sizes show up for each printer in Windows (under Printing Preferences), while the oddball sizes show up when I select File | Print | Properties from within Seamonkey -- but even when I change the paper sizes there, the elongated page sizes print out on paper and still show up in Print Preview 



I realized this morning that the elongated page sizes were vaguely familiar -- 
I verified that they're my preferred size for adhesive labels for a Brother 
label printer that I rarely use, but which is installed on this computer.

I checked about:config for 'height' and 'width' and sure enough, those sizes 
show up as the settings for my other two printers. That is what has been 
causing those sizes to be used when I try to print on plain paper; I restored 
the proper paper sizes in about:config and the problem has gone away. I guess 
it was just a random glitch on my machine!
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Page Setup has gone wacky

[Bill Spikowski]

I've developed an odd problem when trying to print from Seamonkey 2.46 (both 
browser and mail clients) on a WinXP machine. My Win7 machines behave normally.

The Print Preview box always the user to select 'portrait' or 'landscape' 
orientation even before selecting a printer. In the last few days, those 
choices are no longer their original shape -- they're drastically elongated. 
See attached screenshot.

Selecting a different scale does change the scale of the material to be 
printed, but it doesn't affect the odd paper sizes.

If I ignore the problem and print anyway, the material that shows up in Print 
Preview appears in the upper right corner of the printed page (see attached 
example).

Where does SM store the paper sizes that it displays in Print Preview? It seems 
to be separate from my Windows printer settings, since the correct paper sizes 
show up for each printer in Windows (under Printing Preferences), while the 
oddball sizes show up when I select File | Print | Properties from within 
Seamonkey -- but even when I change the paper sizes there, the elongated page 
sizes print out on paper and still show up in Print Preview.


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Re: Google Accounts and Seamonkey

[Bill Spikowski]

Isaac Schemm wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:


Here’s my Seamonkey question. When accessing a Google website, it’s
pretty obvious which Google Account we’re signed in on, and switching
accounts is pretty easy. But many other websites seem aware of what
Google Account was used most recently on that computer but don’t display
that information or allow users to change accounts. For instance, a
‘save to calendar’ button or a ‘save this location’ button will add an
event to Google Calendar or a location to Google Maps, but the user
can’t tell which Google Account is receiving this information, or how to
direct it to a different account. I regularly save important events to
the wrong calendar or the wrong map, not realizing what happened until
I’m out and around and need the information on my phone and can’t find
where it got stored.





 

I don't think Chrome and SeaMonkey would interact at all in this regard. If 
you're logged into a website in one browser, it won't affect a different 
browser.


That makes sense. I wouldn't have thought about interaction except that I use 
Lastpass, which has a setting to stay logged in to my Lastpass account on one 
browser if I'm still logged in on another browser. Doesn't really work, but it 
got me thinking about how accounts might interact under a browser's hood



I think Firefox and IE would probably do the same thing as SeaMonkey in this 
case. Chrome has a facility for logging into a Google account from the browser 
itself, because Google makes it - other browsers don't have that, as far as I 
know. So maybe it would be easier to ask for help elsewhere, since it doesn't 
sound like a SeaMonkey-only problem.


That makes sense too. I think I'll inquire on a Firefox forum since Seamonkey 
is an offshoot.


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Re: Google Accounts and Seamonkey

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 02/09/2017 05:55 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:



Here’s my Seamonkey question. When accessing a Google website, it’s pretty
obvious which Google Account we’re signed in on, and switching accounts is
pretty easy. But many other websites seem aware of what Google Account was used
most recently on that computer but don’t display that information or allow users
to change accounts. For instance, a ‘save to calendar’ button or a ‘save this
location’ button will add an event to Google Calendar or a location to Google
Maps, but the user can’t tell which Google Account is receiving this
information, or how to direct it to a different account. I regularly save
important events to the wrong calendar or the wrong map, not realizing what
happened until I’m out and around and need the information on my phone and can’t
find where it got stored.




 

I avoid Google.


I used to! But Google Maps has no peer; Google Keep is the best method I've 
found for to-do lists, shopping lists, and various notes I sometimes need when 
my only connection is through my phone; and Google Calendar, abysmal as it 
looks, is a great way to interchange calendar information with decent calendar 
software across different OS's.



In "Cookie Acceptance Policy" have you checked "Allow cookies for originating 
website only"?


Yes -- should I change that? I don't really understand it . . .




In "Cookie Retention Policy" have you checked "Accept for current session only"?


No, my checkmark is before "Accept cookies normally" -- that may be the default 
because I don't understand its significance.
 



 


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Google Accounts and Seamonkey

[Bill Spikowski]

Several family members use each of our household and office computers. We all 
have our own Google Accounts, but we share some of those accounts. For 
instance, we rely on Google Keep to shopping lists and to-do lists, but Keep 
works much better if we all use a single Google Account rather than sharing 
Keep notes with different accounts.

Here’s my Seamonkey question. When accessing a Google website, it’s pretty 
obvious which Google Account we’re signed in on, and switching accounts is 
pretty easy. But many other websites seem aware of what Google Account was used 
most recently on that computer but don’t display that information or allow 
users to change accounts. For instance, a ‘save to calendar’ button or a ‘save 
this location’ button will add an event to Google Calendar or a location to 
Google Maps, but the user can’t tell which Google Account is receiving this 
information, or how to direct it to a different account. I regularly save 
important events to the wrong calendar or the wrong map, not realizing what 
happened until I’m out and around and need the information on my phone and 
can’t find where it got stored.

I open and close Seamonkey browser windows all day, but maybe because I have a 
single Seamonkey email window open all day, Seamonkey remembers which Google 
Account was used most recently, even a day or two earlier.

My problem may be worse because I regularly keep a Google Chrome browser window 
open. I despise the Chrome interface, but there are quire a few websites that 
just won’t display properly in Seamonkey, or won’t open at all (financial sites 
are the biggest offenders). In Chrome, it’s a little easier to tell which 
Google Account is being used, but I can’t tell how or if Chrome and Seamonkey 
interact as to Google Accounts.

I’ve searched many Google support sites and forums to figure out how Google 
Accounts interact with web browsers, but haven’t been able to find any 
explanations that shed light on my situation!
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Re: Playing audio file attached to email

[Bill Spikowski]

Lee wrote:

On 1/5/17, Bill Spikowski <b...@spikowski.com> wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/21/2016 02:01 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

The only recent change I recall is changing a setting so that videos on
web pages wouldn't auto-play; could that block MP3 email attachments???


Try reverting the change and see if that is the cause of your problem

If only I could recall the steps I took!

maybe about:config
media.autoplay.enabled set to false?

Lee



YES -- that was it!

I still get the plain black screen in a browser window when I double-click on 
an MP3 attachment, but now the audio plays properly again!
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Re: Playing audio file attached to email

[Bill Spikowski]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/21/2016 02:01 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:
The only recent change I recall is changing a setting so that videos on web pages wouldn't auto-play; could that block MP3 email attachments??? 



Try reverting the change and see if that is the cause of your problem 


If only I could recall the steps I took!

I had done that a month or more earlier in response to a suggestion in this 
newsgroup, but I haven't been unable to locate the suggestion


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Re: Playing audio file attached to email

[Bill Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:


I never figured this out; an upgrade to 2.46 didn't change what
happens.

I've gone to: EDIT | PREFERENCES | BROWSER | HELPER APPLICATIONS |
MP3 FORMAT SOUND and substituted several possible 'ACTION' options.
None of them work for me; when I double-click an MP3 attachment, I
still get the same blank black screen in a Seamonkey browser window.
But when I save the MP3 file, I can open and listen to it in any
media software on my computer.

Ideas anyone?


There are often several entries in Helper Applications for what users think of 
as the same file type. This is because the server may send them with different 
MIME types, and each is listed separately. For example, I have a total of six 
MP3 entries.

Is it possible that you're fiddling with the wrong entry and need to modify a 
different one?


Definitely a possibility! But I only found two when searching for "MP3":
   MP3 Format Sound (audio/mp3)
   MP3 Format Sound (audio/mpeg3)

I've also tried asking the screen in preferences to use "Seamonkey" for MP3 files -- but 
that request gets converted to "RealPlayer," which works fine on my Windows computer but 
not within Seamonkey.

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Re: Playing audio file attached to email

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

My voicemail messages are sent to me as MP3 files attached to an email.

I've always just double-clicked the file name in the little "Attachments:" 
window, which triggered a SM browser window that let me hit the play button and listen to 
the message.

Lately when I try to listen to a message, the browser window is triggered but 
it's just a black screen. If I save the MP3 file and open it in other software, 
it plays fine, so the problem isn't with the attachments themselves.

Does anyone have an idea what might have changed?

The only recent change I recall is changing a setting so that videos on web 
pages wouldn't auto-play; could that block MP3 email attachments???



I never figured this out; an upgrade to 2.46 didn't change what happens.

I've gone to: EDIT | PREFERENCES | BROWSER | HELPER APPLICATIONS | MP3 FORMAT 
SOUND and substituted several possible 'ACTION' options. None of them work for 
me; when I double-click an MP3 attachment, I still get the same blank black 
screen in a Seamonkey browser window. But when I save the MP3 file, I can open 
and listen to it in any media software on my computer.

Ideas anyone?
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Re: Netflix

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Richmond wrote:

Logging into Netflix with seamonkey caused it to go mad. Eventually it
said unresponsive script but it was locked up swapping mad for a while.

Netflix doesn't work with seamonkey anyway but you can at least look at
what's available on there.

Does anyone else have the problem?




I use Seamonkey to access Netflix on several different computers (and OS's).

Granted, it doesn't work as well since they decided to make it friendlier to 
mobile than to desktop -- but it does still work for me.
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Re: starting to get a lot of sites that do not work in 2.40

[Bill Spikowski]

Luis wrote:

Desiree wrote:


Start a new profile and go to the problem sites.  It's very fast and
easy to switch profiles in SeaMonkey compared to Fx.  Also try safe mode
and go to those sites.  If the sites work in safe mode then it is likely
an extension causing the problems.

I had to create a new profile and not mess with it much in terms of
tweaking and extensions.  On my default profile I was unable to get a
number of sites to work correctly.  They work fine in a new profile.  My
default profile is ancient.  I just switch to the new profile when I
want to go to one of my "problem" sites and then switch back.


Cumbersome.  Average users don´t know how to do that.  If a page is not 
rendered correctly they blame the site not the browser.



Seamonkey isn't really aimed at 'average users' -- but it's terrific for those 
who like the older interface, especially if they enjoy fiddling around to make 
it work EXACTLY the way they want!

I also use Firefox, Chrome and Opera and sometimes even Safari, mainly when a 
site doesn't seem to work properly on Seamonkey. Often it doesn't work on those 
browsers either; when it does, sometimes I use that browser for a while, but 
always end up back on Seamonkey.

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Playing audio file attached to email

[Bill Spikowski]

My voicemail messages are sent to me as MP3 files attached to an email.

I've always just double-clicked the file name in the little "Attachments:" 
window, which triggered a SM browser window that let me hit the play button and listen to 
the message.

Lately when I try to listen to a message, the browser window is triggered but 
it's just a black screen. If I save the MP3 file and open it in other software, 
it plays fine, so the problem isn't with the attachments themselves.

Does anyone have an idea what might have changed?

The only recent change I recall is changing a setting so that videos on web 
pages wouldn't auto-play; could that block MP3 email attachments???
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Re: My bank says my Firefox (actually SM) is not supported

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David E. Ross wrote:

Note: The current PrefBar extension -- and all other current extensions -- will 
be broken when (if?) SeaMonkey updates to using Mozilla's proposed 
WebExtensions.



Oh no -- that can't be true -- can it?

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Re: double deletes in email reader

[Bill Spikowski]

Rick Merrill wrote:

inside SeaMonkey email reader; read a message; and click "delete" with mouse: 
first email deletes with click-down, next email deletes with click-up!   Very often I'm 
getting a double delete!  What causes this and how to fix it?



Wireless mouse has a dying battery?

The mouse itself is going defunct?
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Re: Delayed Initialization?

[Bill Spikowski]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 08/11/2016 09:03 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Desiree wrote:

Why haven't you disabled all cache a long time ago? Are you on dsl or extremely 
slow cable broadband or something? I haven't had a cache on any browser (except 
IE where it is not possible to totally eliminate) since I first got broadband 
in 2001.


How do you do that? It's not a choice in EDIT | PREFERENCES | ADVANCED | CACHE


Looking at my SeaMonkey, for those settings I would remove both check marks, set "Use up 
to" to 0 and "Compare the page ..." to Never.


Thanks, I'll try these ideas and see what happens!
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Re: Delayed Initialization?

[Bill Spikowski]

Desiree wrote:

Why haven't you disabled all cache a long time ago? Are you on dsl or extremely 
slow cable broadband or something?  I haven't had a cache on any browser 
(except IE where it is not possible to totally eliminate) since I first got 
broadband in 2001.


How do you do that? It's not a choice in EDIT | PREFERENCES | ADVANCED | CACHE
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Re: email signature

[Bill Spikowski]

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Edit - Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings - Composition & Addressing -
Include signature for forwards.


Thanks. That's helpful. I'm still a bit surprised you can't insert it manually, 
or you might have different signatures for different things, e.g. with address 
and phone number...




There used to be an extension that let you select the signature you wanted to 
insert for different types of email; but alas it stopped working long ago . . . 
.

These days I keep my various signatures in a text file and use copy/paste to 
insert them. Makes me think of the early 1990s when this capability seemed 
really cool!
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Re: Another Sync Idea ...

[Bill Spikowski]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

On 21.03.2016 21:42, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

has somebody already tested this
 idea?


Hello,

here 

 a test report for an alternative to that alternative ;-)



I've been using xmarks for syncing -- as this blog says, it's not terribly 
intuitive, but it DOES work well.

I tried setting it up to also sync my SM bookmarks to Chrome, which caused 
havoc, but it turns out that's a known problem with xmarks.

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Re: Password Manager improvement request

[Bill Spikowski]

Gilles CARINATO wrote:

May I advise that the "passwords manager" is not operative for the two last 
versions of Seamonkey 2.39 and 2.40...
Apparently the "remember" function works, but there is no more display 
available of the identification codes and  passwords stored.



That's not my experience -- the password manager works the same for me in 2.40 
as it has for years.


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Re: Re-organizing bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:


My method has been to create two top level folders with a small
number of sub-folders. I have dragged a number of existing folders
into that structure. As an aid I export the current structure as
HTML. Its shortcoming is although it displaying the folder names, it
gives no information of nesting depth.



Have you tried the "Show Parent Folder" extension?

It adds a folder column to search results in the bookmark manager, letting a 
user locate and move bookmarks right in the standard bookmark manager, without 
exporting to HTML.  (I had to convert it to make it work in Seamonkey.)
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Re: New problems printing draft emails

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

I recently upgraded SM from 2.26 to 2.39 and have noticed a new problem (across 
several computers and OS's).

When I'm composing an email, I often print a draft -- because I can proofread 
better on paper than on the screen.

I no longer can print using FILE | PRINT or using the Print button on the 
toolbar

But I use the print preview feature, I can print from there.

Anyone have an idea what might cause this behavior?


I see through Google that others have reported this behavior in recent versions 
of Seamonkey -- basically, in the compose window, the 'print' function no 
longer works, unless the user invokes it from the 'print preview' window.

Maybe I'm one of the few people who print drafts of my email from the compose 
window -- I've done this dozen of times each day for more years than I can 
remember

Now I hit 'print' and go about my business, wondering later why nothing printed 
-- unless I remember the problem and go to 'print preview' first.

I'm still trying to find a workaround that doesn't require me to unlearn 
deep-seated behavior! For instance I've been looking for a dedicated 'print' 
button for the toolbar in the compose window. The one I have performs the same 
as FILE | PRINT -- is there a way I could manipulate whatever's behind this 
button so it invokes 'print preview' instead?



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New problems printing draft emails

[Bill Spikowski]

I recently upgraded SM from 2.26 to 2.39 and have noticed a new problem (across 
several computers and OS's).

When I'm composing an email, I often print a draft -- because I can proofread 
better on paper than on the screen.

I no longer can print using FILE | PRINT or using the Print button on the 
toolbar

But I use the print preview feature, I can print from there.

Anyone have an idea what might cause this behavior?
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Re: Removing An Entry In Address Book

[Bill Spikowski]

Chuck wrote:

How do I remove an entry from my address book?
I cannot figure it out.
Thanks,
Chuck



Highlight entry, right click, then select 'delete'

Or highlight entry, then click on 'delete' button above (that toolbar may need 
to be unhidden)


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Re: Printing

[Bill Spikowski]

Bonnell Frost wrote:

I am having a problem printing email messages from Seamonkey  They get saved 
w/o getting printed, and the saved format
won't print unless modified.  Any clues about a modify or change here? Win10 
and SM2.38, I think.
Bonnell Frost



It would also help to know where you're printing from. Are you printing an 
email from the main Seamonkey Mail window? Or did you double-click a message 
(which opens the message in a new window) and try printing from there?

I ask because after a recent upgrade, I now get different behavior when 
printing those two different ways.
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Re: Spam Only On One Email Account

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Ray Davison wrote:

Sanpam wrote:

My wife and I have separate SM email accounts, using Time Warner
Roadrunner. She gets lots of spam emails, while I don't get any.
What would cause this, and how do I fix her account to not get
spam?


There are various estimates of the amount of mail traffic that is
SPAM.  They are all over fifty percent.  In the early days we tried
to filter out SPAM.  But you will always be in reactive mode.

Setting the junk flag and then deleting does train SM to set the flag
for you.  Then go to Tools > Delete mail marked as junk.

Charter, in general does not filter incoming, and I do not want them
deciding what I want and what I don't.  But if I resend an add to my
wife's machine, Charter stops that.

So, I filter what I want to keep to a variety of folders and
sub-folders, and that leaves the inbox mostly stuff I do not want,
and is easy to deal with.  I now have about a hundred folders, and it
is rare that any but the inbox get SPAM.

The fix for your wife's account, is to create a new account, get
everyone using the new, and then delete the old.  That is not
practical for me - too many senders to notify - so see above.



Since I run a business that depends on the public being able to contact me, I 
have no chance of keeping my email address secret from spammers -- even from 
the really lazy ones.

For years I used Seamonkey's junk mail controls as a supplement to "Spam 
Assassin" which my domain host provided at no cost.

Both systems are valuable but require quite a fair amount of attention if you 
want them to work effectively.

Out of desperation, I tried "SpamStopsHere" from Greenview Data. It worked so 
well that I now have Greenview host my email, which is actually cheaper than paying for 
SpamStopsHere to work with your existing email host.

I could NEVER go back!

Not being the trusting sort on something so critical to me, I still monitor the 
emails that get blocked (every day or two when I have some down time). Most 
weeks go by without a single email I want to see being blocked. When that does 
happen (typically with a newsletter that some people would consider spam), I 
whitelist the sender's address so it doesn't get blocked again.

Most people would find this solution overkill, especially if their email host 
already provides acceptable spam filtering, or if they can keep their email 
address secret. But for my situation, I wish I had know about this five or ten 
years ago; it's not even in the same league as Spam Assassin or the adaptive 
junk controls that are built in to Seamonkey.



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Re: SeaMonkey's future - was [Re: seamonkey UI]

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 12/21/2015 4:17 AM, Desiree asked:

[SNIP] I've been wondering what will happen to SeaMonkey when Fx
dies next year.  When XUL extensions and all complete themes for
Fx are killed that kills Fx and it will be only an imitation of
Chrome browser then. Since so much of SeaMonkey now is Fx code and
many SeaMonkey users use Lemon Juice's converter in order to use
some Fx extensions on SeaMonkey what will happen to SeaMonkey when
Fx commits suicide?


Perhaps it's time to do a "market survey" to see why a possible
"Silent Majority" have chosen SeaMonkey over a multitude of options.
And no, I haven't the foggiest of how to do/interpret such a survey
;/

For myself, I started with Netscape and followed a path that gave me
the same user experience. I've never felt a desire for addins/addons.
I generally surf with cookies and JavaScript disabled unless they are
*ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED*. I occasionally use Composer because it serves
my need/desires and is conveniently available. I've never had the
need to investigate using IRC chat. I can't recall having come across
a bug that affected how I did things.



I started with Netscape too, but have strayed many times, and today use a 
couple of other browsers for specific purposes.

Seamonkey's appeal to me is less that it's familiar (although I like that), but 
that it's SO ADAPTABLE. I use dozens of extensions and I can't even begin to 
think of how many profile tweaks I've made through the years.

There is plenty in Seamonkey I never use (IRC, Composer) but there is so much 
that's valuable to me that I can't even contemplate being forced to rely on any 
of the other browsers or email clients that I've tried.
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New problem with message filters

[Bill Spikowski]

Over time I've created a couple hundred message filters to divert emails I want 
to read ***but not right now*** to my junk folder.

Mostly these are newsletters, notices of upcoming payments due, blog post 
announcements, advertisements from companies I like, etc.

Suddenly all the filters know longer know where to send the messages.

I can fix them one by one I suppose; but whatever caused the problem might just 
happen again.

Does this problem sound familiar to anyone out there?

(I'm still running SM 2.26.1 on Windows XP on this particular machine for 
reasons that are important to me.)
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Re: Demise of Sync - alternatives?

[Bill Spikowski]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Bill Spikowski schrieb:

Is updating Seamonkey to use Mozilla's new sync server something that's
in the works and might be expected soon (say, the next month, rather
than next year or not at all)?


Someone needs to port the code. SeaMonkey is a volunteer project, so it needs 
someone to volunteer for doing this porting.

KaiRo



OK, thanks for the status.

The venerable Xmarks is still around; it doesn't do everything that Sync did, 
but it still syncs bookmarks perfectly, with the bonus of allowing them to be 
synced to Chrome (and Android with the premium service) as well.

Bookmarks were the priority for me, so I'll go that route for now.

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Re: Demise of Sync - alternatives?

[Bill Spikowski]

Thomas Rocek wrote:

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 10:01:54 AM UTC-4, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Sync 1.1 no longer works, as Mozilla has shut down their sync server.

Is updating Seamonkey to use Mozilla's new sync server something that's in the 
works and might be expected soon (say, the next month, rather than next year or 
not at all)?

Thomas Rocek recently posted the instructions for setting up a new Sync 1.1 
server, but they're way beyond my tech abilities. Is anyone aware of a publicly 
available Sync 1.1 method that Seamonkey users could rely on for the duration?

Hi Bill, I wasn't familiar with Xmarks before (just looked at the web site).  
Does it work with the current version of Seamonkey?


Xmarks installed easily into SM 2.26 on four computers; no conversion 
necessary. All my bookmarks are synced just like they were using SM Sync.

I installed the Xmarks extension on a Chrome Browser and my bookmarks show up 
there also. Haven't tried the Android version yet.

On each machine, you get a choice as to what to sync; also whether to merge the 
bookmarks you've already sent to their server onto a second and third machine, 
or replace them with what you've already sent to their server.

I don't see where the sync schedule can be set, but when you've added bookmarks 
and are closing SM, an alert pops up asking if you want to sync them before 
closing SM.






Also, do you know if it causes any problems that will mess things up (e.g., 
duplicate entries) if Seamonkey moves on up to sync 1.5?


Sorry, I have no idea about that!
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Demise of Sync - alternatives?

[Bill Spikowski]

Sync 1.1 no longer works, as Mozilla has shut down their sync server.

Is updating Seamonkey to use Mozilla's new sync server something that's in the 
works and might be expected soon (say, the next month, rather than next year or 
not at all)?

Thomas Rocek recently posted the instructions for setting up a new Sync 1.1 
server, but they're way beyond my tech abilities. Is anyone aware of a publicly 
available Sync 1.1 method that Seamonkey users could rely on for the duration?
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Re: sync not working the last few days?

[Bill Spikowski]

Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez wrote:

El 03/10/15 a las 13:42, Thomas Rocek escribió:

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 5:51:14 AM UTC-4, Herrmann Hofer
wrote:

1443865390221 Sync.ErrorHandler ERROR X-Weave-Alert: hard-eol:
The sync1.1 service has been shut down

I might have to try to set up my own 1.1 Server :-(

Thanks for the note; I tried to look in my logs and didn't see
that.  If you *do* figure out how to set up a server, could you
please post instructions for those of us who are not very
sophisticated in such matters?  Thanks very much again, best, Tom


The instructions for setting up a Sync 1.1 server are here:

https://docs.services.mozilla.com/howtos/run-sync.html

This was anticipated, as Mozilla announced that it was going to shut
it down on October 1st, since Firefox is using Sync 1.5 since long ago.

SeaMonkey has got permission to use Sync 1.5, but it will take some
time to update SeaMonkey Sync code to 1.5.



Unfortunately those instructions are way beyond me, so I'm looking for another 
workaround.

Is there a trustable source that maintains a shared Sync 1.1 server?

Or, although I prefer Seamonkey to Firefox -- could I switch all my browsers 
back to Firefox, import my Seamonkey bookmarks on one machine, then use Sync 
1.5 to keep all my machine synchronized?

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Re: sync not working the last few days?

[Bill Spikowski]

Thomas Rocek wrote:

I have a bunch of machines running Seamonkey (2.38, but sync was set up long before the 
"can't link new machine" problem).

I'm not sure when it started, but at least as of yesterday I'm getting "Sync encountered an error 
while syncing: Unknown error" message; if I go to preferences-->sync to try to look at my 
quota, I get "can't retrieve quota".  And the problem doesn't seem transient; changed 
bookmarks on one machine aren't appearing on others.

Does anyone know if the sync server is down or is my problem unique to me?  
(and if the latter, any suggestions?)


I've been unable to Sync for almost 24 hours, by far the longest down-time I've 
ever experienced. I'm running SM 2.26.1 on five synced Windows machines.

It makes me wonder what I'd do if the Sync system ever stopped working permanently -- I went from 
"who would need that" to "I can't live without it" in record time!
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Re: JPG's Not Displaying

[Bill Spikowski]

Tom Pamin wrote:

EE wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

When JPG photos are attached to emails I read using my roadrunner
webmail site, they do not display. I only see a small red x instead of
the photo. These photos display fine using IE. Is there a setting to
change in SM?


If they are attachments, can you not detach them and view them as normal
images?


Even when I save the attached images to my PC, I still just get the small red x.


Tom, have you tried accessing this webmail account from a different browser, 
and from your Seamonkey browser running in safe mode? Those tests would 
eliminate a lot of possible problems . . .
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Re: JPG's Not Displaying

[Bill Spikowski]

Tom Pamin wrote:

When JPG photos are attached to emails I read using my roadrunner webmail site, 
they do not display. I only see a small red x instead of the photo. These 
photos display fine using IE. Is there a setting to change in SM?



Can you explain further?

Are you using the Seamonkey browser to access the roadrunner webmail site?

Or are you using the Seamonkey email client to view your mail from the 
roadrunner mail server?
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