Re: extracting domain names from password manager
On 7/27/2020 10:05 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: > I am preparing to retire an email address and will need to change them > in all domains that are currently using that address. I am using the > old password manager (chrome://passwordmgr/content/passwordManager.xul) > and am easily able to locate these cases, but when I look at the popup > menu I see only the username and password offered for copying. > > I want to copy these domains to a spreadsheet so I can address them in > turn and mark them as fixed. How can I do so? > > Dave > I use Password Exporter 1.3.4 from <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/password-exporter/versions/1.3.4> with SeaMonkey 2.49.5. I do not know if it is compatible with later versions of SeaMonkey. In any case, I had to process the installer .xpi file through the extension converter at <http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/> before I could install it. I archived the converted installer file. If you want to try it, reply in this newsgroup thread. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
extracting domain names from password manager
I am preparing to retire an email address and will need to change them in all domains that are currently using that address. I am using the old password manager (chrome://passwordmgr/content/passwordManager.xul) and am easily able to locate these cases, but when I look at the popup menu I see only the username and password offered for copying. I want to copy these domains to a spreadsheet so I can address them in turn and mark them as fixed. How can I do so? Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
On 5/19/2020 2:47 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Frog wrote: On 5/18/2020 10:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog You aren't getting asked when you log into a site for the first time? I just logged into my mozillaZine account for the first time and was asked if I wanted to save the username and password. I should have told you where I was having my problem in my earlier message. The problem is...the first time I previously used a new password on my system it would ask me if I wanted to save my password (subsequently recorded in Password Manager if I click yes). The asking about saving new passwords no longer occurs. I'm trying to understand why this is occurring and how to fix this problem. FYI, Password Manager is a lifesaver to me when it comes my forgetfulness of many things including passwords. Saving passwords doesn't work for some websites, depending on how they're coded. Some web developers seem to consider that a feature and deliberately do everything they can to stop password managers recognising and filling in their password fields - it's almost like they want you to reuse a short, easily remembered (and easily guessed) password rather than one which is unique, complex and difficult to guess! Thanks to all for your help. I believe I know one such web site that does not want you to use a Password Manager for your password...Facebook. I am ready to say Uncle on this one and put up with what I have to do in order to use their software. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Frog wrote: On 5/18/2020 10:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog You aren't getting asked when you log into a site for the first time? I just logged into my mozillaZine account for the first time and was asked if I wanted to save the username and password. I should have told you where I was having my problem in my earlier message. The problem is...the first time I previously used a new password on my system it would ask me if I wanted to save my password (subsequently recorded in Password Manager if I click yes). The asking about saving new passwords no longer occurs. I'm trying to understand why this is occurring and how to fix this problem. FYI, Password Manager is a lifesaver to me when it comes my forgetfulness of many things including passwords. Saving passwords doesn't work for some websites, depending on how they're coded. Some web developers seem to consider that a feature and deliberately do everything they can to stop password managers recognising and filling in their password fields - it's almost like they want you to reuse a short, easily remembered (and easily guessed) password rather than one which is unique, complex and difficult to guess! -- Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
On 5/19/20 5:12 AM, Daniel wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 19/05/2020 2:47 AM: On 5/18/20 12:41 PM, EE wrote: Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog When you log in somewhere, it does that auromatically. Aromatically? Was your differently mis-spelling of EE's mis-spelt word deliberate, Walt?? ;-P Of course! Just trying to get a clarification of what EE meant by auromatically which my spell checker flags as a misspelled word.;) -- OS: Ubuntu Linux 18.04LTS - Gnome Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
WaltS48 wrote on 19/05/2020 2:47 AM: On 5/18/20 12:41 PM, EE wrote: Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog When you log in somewhere, it does that auromatically. Aromatically? Was your differently mis-spelling of EE's mis-spelt word deliberate, Walt?? ;-P -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
On 5/18/2020 10:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog You aren't getting asked when you log into a site for the first time? I just logged into my mozillaZine account for the first time and was asked if I wanted to save the username and password. I should have told you where I was having my problem in my earlier message. The problem is...the first time I previously used a new password on my system it would ask me if I wanted to save my password (subsequently recorded in Password Manager if I click yes). The asking about saving new passwords no longer occurs. I'm trying to understand why this is occurring and how to fix this problem. FYI, Password Manager is a lifesaver to me when it comes my forgetfulness of many things including passwords. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
On 5/18/20 12:41 PM, EE wrote: Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog When you log in somewhere, it does that auromatically. Aromatically? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog When you log in somewhere, it does that auromatically. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog You aren't getting asked when you log into a site for the first time? I just logged into my mozillaZine account for the first time and was asked if I wanted to save the username and password. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
Ray Davison wrote on 06/05/2020 01:59: Password manager New, Edit, Clone I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed out. Is this thing supposed to work? TY Ray I am using the "Classic Password Editor 1.1.2" extension, converted (chrome://amobrowsing/content/versions.html?host=addons.thunderbird.net=866823=false) in Seamonkey 2.49.5 and it is working perfectly. RF ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 7/05/2020 8:04 PM: Daniel wrote: That's what I suspected (the problem was with the Add-on, not with SM 2.49.5 itself), but thanks for confirming, FRG. As Ray is, apparently, still using 2.49.5, would you really bother putting out a fix (2.49.6??) or just check if the Add-on, Saved Passwords, works with 2.53.2 or whatever the latest is?? Meant more an easy fix in the add-on code. 2.49.5 is and will be the last ESR52 based version. It is dead Jim. But might also be a problem carried over to 2.53.x so this might be fixed if the defect is in the SeaMonkey code. FRG (I was going to tell you 'I'm not "Jim"", but then I remember that that was a line from a film .. or was it Startrek??) I did read, one of the other responders (Mr Ed or Don, was it??) stated that it was functional in 2.53.2, though a later Add-on version! -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
Daniel wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 6/05/2020 8:24 PM: Daniel wrote: Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59 AM: Password manager New, Edit, Clone I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed out. Is this thing supposed to work? TY Ray Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you refer to?? In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools -> Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I don't see these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons. Are they something installed by your "Saved Password" add-on?? > I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. Seems the add-on no longer works. I would look into the error log and see if messages are logged there for it during startup on when you click a button. Might be an easy fixer or not. FRG That's what I suspected (the problem was with the Add-on, not with SM 2.49.5 itself), but thanks for confirming, FRG. As Ray is, apparently, still using 2.49.5, would you really bother putting out a fix (2.49.6??) or just check if the Add-on, Saved Passwords, works with 2.53.2 or whatever the latest is?? Meant more an easy fix in the add-on code. 2.49.5 is and will be the last ESR52 based version. It is dead Jim. But might also be a problem carried over to 2.53.x so this might be fixed if the defect is in the SeaMonkey code. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 6/05/2020 8:24 PM: Daniel wrote: Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59 AM: Password manager New, Edit, Clone I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed out. Is this thing supposed to work? TY Ray Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you refer to?? In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools -> Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I don't see these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons. Are they something installed by your "Saved Password" add-on?? > I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. Seems the add-on no longer works. I would look into the error log and see if messages are logged there for it during startup on when you click a button. Might be an easy fixer or not. FRG That's what I suspected (the problem was with the Add-on, not with SM 2.49.5 itself), but thanks for confirming, FRG. As Ray is, apparently, still using 2.49.5, would you really bother putting out a fix (2.49.6??) or just check if the Add-on, Saved Passwords, works with 2.53.2 or whatever the latest is?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
On 5/6/2020 1:22 PM, Don Spam's
Reckless Son wrote:
Mr. Ed
wrote:
On 5/6/2020 6:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl
wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59
AM:
Password manager New, Edit, Clone
I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on.
It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more
of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New"
is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code
behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone
are greyed out.
Is this thing supposed to work?
TY
Ray
Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you
refer to??
In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools
-> Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I
don't see these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons.
Are they something installed by your "Saved Password"
add-on??
> I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on.
Seems the add-on no longer works. I would look into the error
log and see if messages are logged there for it during startup
on when you click a button. Might be an easy fixer or not.
FRG
I'm using
* Saved Password Editor 2.9.6
(https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/)
Seems to work on with SM 2.53.2
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testify against himself!" -Mister Ed
Ray D is using Seamonkey 2.49.5 (under Windows 7, not that that
matters).
I've been using it since June 2016 - A number of previous versions
of SM without problems - still working.
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Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
Mr. Ed wrote: On 5/6/2020 6:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Daniel wrote: Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59 AM: Password manager New, Edit, Clone I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed out. Is this thing supposed to work? TY Ray Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you refer to?? In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools -> Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I don't see these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons. Are they something installed by your "Saved Password" add-on?? > I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. Seems the add-on no longer works. I would look into the error log and see if messages are logged there for it during startup on when you click a button. Might be an easy fixer or not. FRG I'm using * Saved Password Editor 2.9.6 (https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/) Seems to work on with SM 2.53.2 -- "This is America! You can't make a horse testify against himself!" -Mister Ed Ray D is using Seamonkey 2.49.5 (under Windows 7, not that that matters). -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
On 5/6/2020 6:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl
wrote:
Daniel
wrote:
Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59 AM:
Password manager New, Edit, Clone
I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on.
It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of
those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a
active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind
it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed
out.
Is this thing supposed to work?
TY
Ray
Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you refer
to??
In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools ->
Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I don't see
these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons.
Are they something installed by your "Saved Password" add-on??
> I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on.
Seems the add-on no longer works. I would look into the error log
and see if messages are logged there for it during startup on when
you click a button. Might be an easy fixer or not.
FRG
I'm using
* Saved Password Editor 2.9.6 (https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/)
Seems to work on with SM 2.53.2
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testify against himself!" -Mister Ed
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Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
Daniel wrote: Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59 AM: Password manager New, Edit, Clone I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed out. Is this thing supposed to work? TY Ray Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you refer to?? In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools -> Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I don't see these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons. Are they something installed by your "Saved Password" add-on?? > I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. Seems the add-on no longer works. I would look into the error log and see if messages are logged there for it during startup on when you click a button. Might be an easy fixer or not. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59 AM: Password manager New, Edit, Clone I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed out. Is this thing supposed to work? TY Ray Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you refer to?? In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools -> Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I don't see these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons. Are they something installed by your "Saved Password" add-on?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone
On 5/5/20 7:59 PM, Ray Davison wrote: Password manager New, Edit, Clone I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed out. Is this thing supposed to work? TY Ray What thing are you asking about? I don't have New, Edit or Clone in the built-in password manager. So the thing doesn't work. If you mean the Saved Password Editor extension you need version 1.0.1. <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/saved-password-editor/versions/?page=2#version-1.0.1> Good Luck! -- OS: Ubuntu Linux 18.04LTS - Gnome Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password manager New, Edit, Clone
Password manager New, Edit, Clone I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on. It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of those functions did work. For a long time now, "New" is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind it. It just clicks, and nothing. Edit and Clone are greyed out. Is this thing supposed to work? TY Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager and Enigmail
I am running 64 bit SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on linux mint x64 18.3 (sylvia) with the Enigmail 2.0.9 installed. As I installed this back in early October, 2018 and have had no need to use it until a few days ago I have forgotten my pass phrase. The surprising thing is I can still use it and believe this is due to saving my pass phrase with Password Manager. When I select a message with encryption immediately after a restart I get a pop-up window requesting my pass phrase which has a check box to save it to Password Manager. As I have forgotten this I click cancel and there is a warning displayed about a missing pass phrase and the message is not opened. I can work around this by sending an encrypted message to anyone, including one of the available robots that will respond to them. After doing so all encrypted messages are accessible until the timeout. This behavior leads me to believe that when I installed Enigmail and sent some signed messages to those I hoped to communicate with that I was prompted for the pass phrase and clicked the save it to Password Manager button. My question is how can I retrieve the pass phrase from Password Manager so that I can enter it at the other prompt I am getting and save it there as well. I have looked and see nothing obvious there. What keywords would have been stored with the Enigmail pass phrase that I can search for to recover it? Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager Not Auto-Populating As Expected W10 Desktop SM 2.49.4
Hello all, After moving my profile from one drive to another, I have found that the PW Manger is not auto-populating any longer. From what I can tell, all passwords are showing in the manager and correctly... Any ideas or suggestions on how to get this working again? TIA - bo1953 --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help with password manager
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: null wrote: Been running SM for many years and currently using 2.49.1 without any problems. I have used password manager for years without any problems. However, a couple of versions back I had to log in for the first time at an organization's site, but SM would not offer to save the ID and password details for me, and still not on subsequent occasions. The help desk people at the organization suggested that I might have accidentally clicked on "never save password." I don't think I did, but when I went to check this out, something seems amiss. ... If you did, go into the Data Manager, choose "Permissions Only," and scrolls through the list for the website in question. Select it and you should see a pref listed on the right, "Save Passwords" with the option "Block" selected at the far right. Select "Allow" and that should enable you to save a password on your next visit. If you haven't blocked passwords for this site, your problem lies elsewhere. Thanks for the to about Permissions. Unfortunately, it seems that the site in question makes no entries of any sort in the Data Manager at all. That is, there is no entry for this site in any of the Data Manager categories. Hence, there is nothing to unblock. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help with password manager
null wrote: Been running SM for many years and currently using 2.49.1 without any problems. I have used password manager for years without any problems. However, a couple of versions back I had to log in for the first time at an organization's site, but SM would not offer to save the ID and password details for me, and still not on subsequent occasions. The help desk people at the organization suggested that I might have accidentally clicked on "never save password." I don't think I did, but when I went to check this out, something seems amiss. ... If you did, go into the Data Manager, choose "Permissions Only," and scrolls through the list for the website in question. Select it and you should see a pref listed on the right, "Save Passwords" with the option "Block" selected at the far right. Select "Allow" and that should enable you to save a password on your next visit. If you haven't blocked passwords for this site, your problem lies elsewhere. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help with password manager
> Secondly, I looked in the SM help file to read up on the subject. There, it > says that the Password Manager has two tabs, one saying "passwords saved" and > the other saying "passwords never saved." However, when I click on Tools - Oops. That one is gone. The passwords permissions are now saved in the permissions database itself so you can find them under the regular permissions tab. Only the passwords are now still saved in logins.json in your profile. If you can file a bug I can see that the help is updated. FRG null wrote: Been running SM for many years and currently using 2.49.1 without any problems. I have used password manager for years without any problems. However, a couple of versions back I had to log in for the first time at an organization's site, but SM would not offer to save the ID and password details for me, and still not on subsequent occasions. The help desk people at the organization suggested that I might have accidentally clicked on "never save password." I don't think I did, but when I went to check this out, something seems amiss. Firstly, I deleted an already saved item from the password manager, then went to the relevant site and logged in manually to see if SM offered to remember the details again. It did, so that aspect of things seems to be working correctly. Secondly, I looked in the SM help file to read up on the subject. There, it says that the Password Manager has two tabs, one saying "passwords saved" and the other saying "passwords never saved." However, when I click on Tools - Password Manager - Managed Stored Passwords", what I get is a window labelled "Data Manager." This is divided vertically into 2 resizable halves. The left is headed with a drop-down box where you can select All data Types, Cookies only, Permissions only, Preferences only, Passwords only, and Storage only. Below that is a search box labelled Search Domains, which appears to search All data types, which includes all the other categories. On the right half of the window, at the top, are 5 tabs labelled Cookies, Permissions, Preferences, Passwords, and Storage. These are greyed out, but one or the other will go live when an item is clicked on in one of the afore-mentioned categories that can have their contents listed over in the left half. Once a web site address in the Passwords category on the left is clicked on, the passwords tab on the right goes live and two buttons labelled Show Passwords and Remove appear along with the now displayed URL and Username. The point of this long description is that nowhere in the window are the tabs saying "passwords saved" and "passwords never saved" which the Help file states should be there. Why not? The absence of the "passwords never saved" tab meant that I couldn't check the contents to see if I had, in fact, accidentally instructed SM to never save the password as the organization's help desk suggested. Bottom line seems to be that either the SM Help file is out of date due to some changes to the SM GUI, or there is something wrong with SM. Any suggestions would be welcome, because SM saves all my other passwords as it should, and I think it is the website that is at fault - I hope to convince them of that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Need help with password manager
Been running SM for many years and currently using 2.49.1 without any problems. I have used password manager for years without any problems. However, a couple of versions back I had to log in for the first time at an organization's site, but SM would not offer to save the ID and password details for me, and still not on subsequent occasions. The help desk people at the organization suggested that I might have accidentally clicked on "never save password." I don't think I did, but when I went to check this out, something seems amiss. Firstly, I deleted an already saved item from the password manager, then went to the relevant site and logged in manually to see if SM offered to remember the details again. It did, so that aspect of things seems to be working correctly. Secondly, I looked in the SM help file to read up on the subject. There, it says that the Password Manager has two tabs, one saying "passwords saved" and the other saying "passwords never saved." However, when I click on Tools - Password Manager - Managed Stored Passwords", what I get is a window labelled "Data Manager." This is divided vertically into 2 resizable halves. The left is headed with a drop-down box where you can select All data Types, Cookies only, Permissions only, Preferences only, Passwords only, and Storage only. Below that is a search box labelled Search Domains, which appears to search All data types, which includes all the other categories. On the right half of the window, at the top, are 5 tabs labelled Cookies, Permissions, Preferences, Passwords, and Storage. These are greyed out, but one or the other will go live when an item is clicked on in one of the afore-mentioned categories that can have their contents listed over in the left half. Once a web site address in the Passwords category on the left is clicked on, the passwords tab on the right goes live and two buttons labelled Show Passwords and Remove appear along with the now displayed URL and Username. The point of this long description is that nowhere in the window are the tabs saying "passwords saved" and "passwords never saved" which the Help file states should be there. Why not? The absence of the "passwords never saved" tab meant that I couldn't check the contents to see if I had, in fact, accidentally instructed SM to never save the password as the organization's help desk suggested. Bottom line seems to be that either the SM Help file is out of date due to some changes to the SM GUI, or there is something wrong with SM. Any suggestions would be welcome, because SM saves all my other passwords as it should, and I think it is the website that is at fault - I hope to convince them of that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
On 11/14/17 1:05 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: Ray Davison wrote: bo1953 wrote: Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM. I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead? I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor. I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade. But then I never do an upgrade. I copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and if at some point I decide I like the new better, I delete the older. Ray I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes that are coming to SM. Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the future. What major changes? I don't know. I thought SM was switching over to a new release and some add-ons would no longer work or is that just for Firefox? Just Firefox for now. -- Go Bills, Steelers, Pitt, Pens and Sabres! Coexist <https://www.coexist.org/> National Popular Vote <http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/> Ubuntu 16.04LTS - Unity Desktop ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
WaltS48 wrote: > On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: >> Ray Davison wrote: >>> bo1953 wrote: >>>> Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password >>>> manager loses PW's at most >>>> upgrades of SM. >>>> >>>> I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM >>>> or is it I need to look >>>> for one which will work with W10 Pro instead? >>> >>> I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor. >>> >>> I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade. But then I >>> never do an upgrade. I >>> copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, >>> and if at some point I >>> decide I like the new better, I delete the older. >>> >>> Ray >>> >> I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes >> that are coming to SM. >> Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the >> future. >> > > What major changes? > I don't know. I thought SM was switching over to a new release and some add-ons would no longer work or is that just for Firefox? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
David - are others having this issue as well? Sounds like for the OP and myself (I am on Win7 not Win10) The built in password manager broke on the 2.49 update. I can go to the password manager and they are all still there, but the auto complete is broken. Does the OP also find the passwords are still in the manage stored passwords interface just not auto completing? On 11/11/2017 12:38 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud, which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey to store my passwords. Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those nuisance logins that I entrust to it. As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial accounts and certain other critical Web sites. As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data. So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment "rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" (the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), cracking it won't help without the other part. There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: Ray Davison wrote: bo1953 wrote: Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM. I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead? I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor. I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade. But then I never do an upgrade. I copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and if at some point I decide I like the new better, I delete the older. Ray I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes that are coming to SM. Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the future. What major changes? -- Go Bills, Steelers, Pitt, Pens and Sabres! Coexist <https://www.coexist.org/> National Popular Vote <http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/> Ubuntu 16.04LTS - Unity Desktop ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
Ray Davison wrote: > bo1953 wrote: >> Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password >> manager loses PW's at most >> upgrades of SM. >> >> I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or >> is it I need to look >> for one which will work with W10 Pro instead? > > I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor. > > I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade. But then I > never do an upgrade. I > copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and > if at some point I > decide I like the new better, I delete the older. > > Ray > I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes that are coming to SM. Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the future. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
bo1953 wrote: Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM. I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead? I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor. I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade. But then I never do an upgrade. I copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and if at some point I decide I like the new better, I delete the older. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
On 11/11/2017 9:38 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: > >> I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of >> the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud, >> which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their >> integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle >> logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey >> to store my passwords. > > Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several > posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent > upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those > nuisance logins that I entrust to it. > >> As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not >> merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically >> change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial >> accounts and certain other critical Web sites. > > As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial > institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate > file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues > to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data. > > So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I > may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment > "rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not > a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just > now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" > (the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). > Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's > not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. > And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), > cracking it won't help without the other part. > > There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or > passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks. > I have never seen SeaMonkey forget a saved password. I have indeed seen this problem with Thunderbird. (I do not use SeaMonkey's mail-news capability.) However, I think the problem in Thunderbird was fixed several versions ago. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Am I the only one who noticed the following? * President Trump issued executive orders that increase health-care costs. * The Republicans in Congress propose to eliminate itemized deductions for health-care costs. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
David E. Ross wrote: I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud, which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey to store my passwords. Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those nuisance logins that I entrust to it. As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial accounts and certain other critical Web sites. As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data. So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment "rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" (the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), cracking it won't help without the other part. There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
On 11/11/2017 5:05 AM, bo1953 wrote: > Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password > manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM. > > I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM > or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead? > > TIA - bo1953 > > I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud, which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey to store my passwords. As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial accounts and certain other critical Web sites. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Am I the only one who noticed the following? * President Trump issued executive orders that increase health-care costs. * The Republicans in Congress propose to eliminate itemized deductions for health-care costs. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM. I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead? TIA - bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager problem
I am running V2.46 in Win 10 in three computers at my desk. My primary computer won't get mail from my gmail account, it says it connects to pop.gmail.com, then it does nothing. The other computers get gmail fine from the same gmail account. I suspect it is a problem with Password Manager. When I go to Tools: Password Manager: Manage Stored Passwords in this computer it is not responsive like on the other computers, and after a while it says "Warning: Unresponsive script: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779". I have forgotten how to re-install the current SeaMonkey version, replacing what is there, or I would have tried that before now. I don't have a clue how to replace Password Manager. Help please? Thanks. Jay O'Brien, Folsom, CA. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager problem
I am running V2.46 in Win 10 in three computers at my desk. My primary computer won't get mail from my gmail account, it says it connects to pop.gmail.com, then it does nothing. The other computers get gmail fine from the same gmail account. I suspect it is a problem with Password Manager. When I go to Tools: Password Manager: Manage Stored Passwords in this computer it is not responsive like on the other computers, and after a while it says "Warning: Unresponsive script: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. (It then identifies where the script resides) I have forgotten how to re-install the current SeaMonkey version, replacing what is there, or I would have tried that before now. I don't have a clue how to replace Password Manager. Help please? Thanks. Jay O'Brien, Folsom, CA. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
On 13/05/2017 12:47 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/11/2017 9:58 PM, Daniel wrote: On 12/05/2017 12:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote: I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 At least that was the message when I last saw it. Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, until finally I could use the manager. It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it works without clicking 'continue' several times. However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the problem? Do not use the Data Manager. Instead, get the Passwords button (an extension) from <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/>, install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it. From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key. David, why shouldn't Dirk use the Data Manager/Password Manager as it comes in SeaMonkey?? I just clicked mine up and it seems to be working O.K. No need for any Extensions!! The Data Manager only displays passwords for a single specified domain. The Passwords button displays the entire password database all at once. Note, however, the Passwords button requires the user to enter the master password merely to display the domains and user IDs. The master password must be entered a second time to display the actual passwords. With only user IDs displayed, the Passwords button allows the user to change a selected user ID. With passwords also displayed, the Passwords buttonallows the user to change a selected user password. I cannot find a Data Manager capability for such editing. Finally, the Passwords button provides options for displaying when a password wasfirst used, when a password was last used, last changed, and how many times it has been used. No such options exist for the Data Manager. O.K., if it does what you need done, fine, and if the Data Manages does what I need, also fine! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
Ed Mullen wrote: On 5/12/17 at 10:47 AM, David E. Ross's prodigious digits fired off with great aplomb: On 5/11/2017 9:58 PM, Daniel wrote: On 12/05/2017 12:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote: I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 At least that was the message when I last saw it. Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, until finally I could use the manager. It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it works without clicking 'continue' several times. However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the problem? Do not use the Data Manager. Instead, get the Passwords button (an extension) from <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/>, install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it. From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key. David, why shouldn't Dirk use the Data Manager/Password Manager as it comes in SeaMonkey?? I just clicked mine up and it seems to be working O.K. No need for any Extensions!! The Data Manager only displays passwords for a single specified domain. The Passwords button displays the entire password database all at once. Note, however, the Passwords button requires the user to enter the master password merely to display the domains and user IDs. The master password must be entered a second time to display the actual passwords. With only user IDs displayed, the Passwords button allows the user to change a selected user ID. With passwords also displayed, the Passwords buttonallows the user to change a selected user password. I cannot find a Data Manager capability for such editing. Finally, the Passwords button provides options for displaying when a password wasfirst used, when a password was last used, last changed, and how many times it has been used. No such options exist for the Data Manager. You can also use Interesting, so there are two ways to find passwords in SeaMonkey, thanks for pointing this out. I don't like that, it is the Microsoft way of making interfaces. Something like four different ways of choosing a font in an application, with four different interfaces. There should be one way, perhaps callable from different places in the interface, but one interface. I'm sure it contributes to the stability and the maintainability of the application. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
On 5/12/17 at 10:47 AM, David E. Ross's prodigious digits fired off with great aplomb: On 5/11/2017 9:58 PM, Daniel wrote: On 12/05/2017 12:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote: I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 At least that was the message when I last saw it. Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, until finally I could use the manager. It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it works without clicking 'continue' several times. However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the problem? Do not use the Data Manager. Instead, get the Passwords button (an extension) from <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/>, install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it. From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key. David, why shouldn't Dirk use the Data Manager/Password Manager as it comes in SeaMonkey?? I just clicked mine up and it seems to be working O.K. No need for any Extensions!! The Data Manager only displays passwords for a single specified domain. The Passwords button displays the entire password database all at once. Note, however, the Passwords button requires the user to enter the master password merely to display the domains and user IDs. The master password must be entered a second time to display the actual passwords. With only user IDs displayed, the Passwords button allows the user to change a selected user ID. With passwords also displayed, the Passwords buttonallows the user to change a selected user password. I cannot find a Data Manager capability for such editing. Finally, the Passwords button provides options for displaying when a password wasfirst used, when a password was last used, last changed, and how many times it has been used. No such options exist for the Data Manager. You can also use -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ "In love the paradox occurs that two beings become one and yet remain two." - Erich Fromm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
On 5/11/2017 9:58 PM, Daniel wrote: > On 12/05/2017 12:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote: >>> I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. >>> >>> After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: >>> >>> A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. >>> You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the >>> script continue. >>> >>> Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 >>> >>> At least that was the message when I last saw it. >>> >>> Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, >>> until finally I could use the manager. >>> >>> It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. >>> Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it >>> works without clicking 'continue' several times. >>> >>> However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the >>> problem? >>> >> >> Do not use the Data Manager. Instead, get the Passwords button (an >> extension) from >> <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/>, >> install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it. >> From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key. >> > David, why shouldn't Dirk use the Data Manager/Password Manager as it > comes in SeaMonkey?? I just clicked mine up and it seems to be working > O.K. No need for any Extensions!! > The Data Manager only displays passwords for a single specified domain. The Passwords button displays the entire password database all at once. Note, however, the Passwords button requires the user to enter the master password merely to display the domains and user IDs. The master password must be entered a second time to display the actual passwords. With only user IDs displayed, the Passwords button allows the user to change a selected user ID. With passwords also displayed, the Passwords buttonallows the user to change a selected user password. I cannot find a Data Manager capability for such editing. Finally, the Passwords button provides options for displaying when a password wasfirst used, when a password was last used, last changed, and how many times it has been used. No such options exist for the Data Manager. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com> Consider: * Most state mandate that drivers have liability insurance. * Employers are mandated to have worker's compensation insurance. * If you live in a flood zone, flood insurance is mandatory. * If your home has a mortgage, fire insurance is mandatory. Why then is mandatory health insurance so bad?? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: This is a known problem with 2.46 and up. It is now in the release notes for 2.48 Beta 1: +++ snip +++ If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These contain data stored by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if the information is needed please back them up before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. +++ snap +++ frg Thanks, that worked. Actually when SeaMonkey is running there are three webappsstore files: webappsstore.sqlite webappsstore.sqlite-shm webappsstore.sqlite-wal After shutdown, only webappsstore.sqlite is left. On my system it had a size of about 100MB. I moved it to my Documents map, and restarted SeaMonkey. I got a new webappsstore.sqlite with a size of just 128kB. It seems all passwords are there, and the problems are gone. Dirk Munk wrote: I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 At least that was the message when I last saw it. Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, until finally I could use the manager. It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it works without clicking 'continue' several times. However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
This is a known problem with 2.46 and up. It is now in the release notes for 2.48 Beta 1: +++ snip +++ If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These contain data stored by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if the information is needed please back them up before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. +++ snap +++ frg Dirk Munk wrote: I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 At least that was the message when I last saw it. Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, until finally I could use the manager. It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it works without clicking 'continue' several times. However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
On 12/05/2017 12:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote: I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 At least that was the message when I last saw it. Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, until finally I could use the manager. It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it works without clicking 'continue' several times. However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the problem? Do not use the Data Manager. Instead, get the Passwords button (an extension) from <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/>, install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it. From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key. David, why shouldn't Dirk use the Data Manager/Password Manager as it comes in SeaMonkey?? I just clicked mine up and it seems to be working O.K. No need for any Extensions!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
On 5/11/2017 7:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote: >> I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. >> >> After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: >> >> A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. >> You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the >> script continue. >> >> Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 >> >> At least that was the message when I last saw it. >> >> Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, >> until finally I could use the manager. >> >> It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. >> Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it >> works without clicking 'continue' several times. >> >> However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the >> problem? >> > > Do not use the Data Manager. Instead, get the Passwords button (an > extension) from > <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/>, > install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it. > From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key. > Oops! I gave incomplete information. Near the top of the indicated Web page, check the checkbox for SeaMonkey and uncheck the checkboxes for Firefox and Thunderbird. Neqar the bottom of that page, check the checkbox for "Offer for download instead of installing"; and uncheck the other checkboxes. Then check the checkbox for Passwords near the middle of the page. Finally, select the Download button. Some editing is required. Open the toolbar-button-f2d93a823a-1.1.1.xpi file using a Zip application. Within the file .xpi file is the file install.rdf. In the install.rdf file, change 2.39 to be 2.4* for SeaMonkey -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com> Consider: * Most state mandate that drivers have liability insurance. * Employers are mandated to have worker's compensation insurance. * If you live in a flood zone, flood insurance is mandatory. * If your home has a mortgage, fire insurance is mandatory. Why then is mandatory health insurance so bad?? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote: > I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. > > After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: > > A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. > You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the > script continue. > > Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 > > At least that was the message when I last saw it. > > Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, > until finally I could use the manager. > > It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. > Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it > works without clicking 'continue' several times. > > However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the > problem? > Do not use the Data Manager. Instead, get the Passwords button (an extension) from <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/>, install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it. >From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com> Consider: * Most state mandate that drivers have liability insurance. * Employers are mandated to have worker's compensation insurance. * If you live in a flood zone, flood insurance is mandatory. * If your home has a mortgage, fire insurance is mandatory. Why then is mandatory health insurance so bad?? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager
On 5/11/17 9:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote: I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 At least that was the message when I last saw it. Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, until finally I could use the manager. It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it works without clicking 'continue' several times. However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the problem? How did you post to this newsgroup using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0? What version of SeaMonkey are you using? -- Go Bucs and Pens! Coexist <https://www.coexist.org/> National Popular Vote <http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/> Ubuntu 16.04LTS - Unity Desktop ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem with the data manager / password manager
I have a problem with the data manager / password manager. After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779 At least that was the message when I last saw it. Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, until finally I could use the manager. It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it works without clicking 'continue' several times. However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager crashes SeaMonkey
> Something has been changed . Access to storage was broken in previous versions so naturally its slower now because it actually accesses it again. Doesn't help that every time Data Manager is opened the complete list is refreshed 2 times. I looked at it briefly but I think it needs a rewrite and switch to asynchronous processing. If SeaMonkey weathers the XUL removal storm I will look into it. Not worth it now. FRG Ray_Net wrote: Bob Minchin wrote on 06-02-17 22:29: As per subject. I don't have a crash BUT: When I was in SM 2.40 "data manager" access was in les than a second. Now with SM 2.46 "data manager" is usuable only after 7 seconds. Something has been changed . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager crashes SeaMonkey
Bob Minchin wrote on 06-02-17 22:29: As per subject. Seamonkey 2.46 Win XP SP3 As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del Any clues please? Tia Bob I don't have a crash BUT: When I was in SM 2.40 "data manager" access was in les than a second. Now with SM 2.46 "data manager" is usuable only after 7 seconds. Something has been changed . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [webappsstore.sqlite files ] Re: Password manager crashes SeaMonkey
Usually this is used by websites to store offsite data. Sometimes also something called supercookies just used to track you. Under preferences-> Advanced->Offline Web Application you should see if something is stored. That can undermine you privacy pretty fast so I usually have it disabled. You usually can delete the file. Any needed data will be stored again. If unsure move it out of the profile and only restore it if you experience problems. FRG Ray_Net wrote: I don't have this problem ...however I see in the profile directory those files: webappsstore.sqlite 43 MB dated 07-02-17 18:33 webappsstore.sqlite-shm 32KB dated 07-02-17 21:59 webappsstore.sqlite-wl 3KB dated 07-02-17 23:35 It looks that those files are used, BUT I never use SM offline. So what ? Is it a good idea, when SM is not running to delete those 3 files to gain 43MB ? I dont know what's inside those files ... So better avoid the deletion ? Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 06-02-17 22:55: So far most problems with a hung data manager (which password manager is a part of) seem to point to an obsolete and bloated webappsstore.sqlite in your profile. Please close SeaMonkey and rename (or delet if you are sure you don't need the data in it) this file. It contains offline website storage. Then check again. FRG Bob Minchin wrote: As per subject. Seamonkey 2.46 Win XP SP3 As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del Any clues please? Tia Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager locks up Seamonkey 2.46
Bob Minchin wrote: As per subject really. I'm running SM 2.46 which when it checks for updates there are none reported. (although I see references to 2.48?) I'm using Win XP SP3 and not proposing to change OS. Every time I open Password manager it opens with a minimum size new window and just locks up all SM windows and the only way out is Crtl Alt Delete. Rebooting the machine has no effect on the problem. Any ideas Please Bob Don't download it I downloaded the Mac version the other and it crashed almost as soon as I clicked the icon and send error reports. So I went and download 2.46 and reinstalled and haven't had an issue since. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjones...@comcast.net http://phillipjones-cet.net/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [webappsstore.sqlite files ] Re: Password manager crashes SeaMonkey
I was having this issue with the SM 2.48 version. If I went to check on a password, it would lock the browser up tight for several minutes. After reading about the issue with the 'webappsstore.sqlite' issue, I went into my profile, opened it, closed down SM, and then changed the name to webappsstorea.sqlite and the issue went away. If I should ever need it, it's still there. Other than that, I've little other problems. Thanks! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[webappsstore.sqlite files ] Re: Password manager crashes SeaMonkey
I don't have this problem ...however I see in the profile directory those files: webappsstore.sqlite 43 MB dated 07-02-17 18:33 webappsstore.sqlite-shm 32KB dated 07-02-17 21:59 webappsstore.sqlite-wl 3KB dated 07-02-17 23:35 It looks that those files are used, BUT I never use SM offline. So what ? Is it a good idea, when SM is not running to delete those 3 files to gain 43MB ? I dont know what's inside those files ... So better avoid the deletion ? Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 06-02-17 22:55: So far most problems with a hung data manager (which password manager is a part of) seem to point to an obsolete and bloated webappsstore.sqlite in your profile. Please close SeaMonkey and rename (or delet if you are sure you don't need the data in it) this file. It contains offline website storage. Then check again. FRG Bob Minchin wrote: As per subject. Seamonkey 2.46 Win XP SP3 As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del Any clues please? Tia Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password manager crashes SeaMonkey
So far most problems with a hung data manager (which password manager is a part of) seem to point to an obsolete and bloated webappsstore.sqlite in your profile. Please close SeaMonkey and rename (or delet if you are sure you don't need the data in it) this file. It contains offline website storage. Then check again. FRG Bob Minchin wrote: As per subject. Seamonkey 2.46 Win XP SP3 As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del Any clues please? Tia Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password manager crashes SeaMonkey
As per subject. Seamonkey 2.46 Win XP SP3 As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del Any clues please? Tia Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password manager Crashes SeaMonkey
As per subject. Seamonkey 2.46 Win XP SP3 As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del Any clues please? Tia Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password manager locks up Seamonkey 2.46
As per subject really. I'm running SM 2.46 which when it checks for updates there are none reported. (although I see references to 2.48?) I'm using Win XP SP3 and not proposing to change OS. Every time I open Password manager it opens with a minimum size new window and just locks up all SM windows and the only way out is Crtl Alt Delete. Rebooting the machine has no effect on the problem. Any ideas Please Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager improvement request
On 3/22/2016 9:45 AM, Gilles CARINATO wrote: > May I advise that the "passwords manager" is not operative for the two > last versions of Seamonkey 2.39 and 2.40... > Apparently the "remember" function works, but there is no more display > available of the identification codes and passwords stored. > > Gilles Since SeaMonkey 2.38 and possibly since SeaMonkey 2.35, the inherent Password Manager has worked for me with the same functionality that the Remember Passwords extension gave me in SeaMonkey 2.26.1 (before changes in Password Manager broke the extension). -- David E. Ross While many tributes to the late Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia now fill the news media, his legacy was not necessarily positive. See my "What Price Order, Mr. Justice Scalia?" at <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_scalia_wrong.html>. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager improvement request
Gilles CARINATO wrote: May I advise that the "passwords manager" is not operative for the two last versions of Seamonkey 2.39 and 2.40... Apparently the "remember" function works, but there is no more display available of the identification codes and passwords stored. Gilles It works for me. I use a bookmark for: chrome://passwordmgr/content/passwordManager.xul I do that for convenience to get at the passwords quickly. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager improvement request
It's likely bad entries in the permissions database. The migration of them in 2.39 and 2.40 sometimes didn't work well. You can also currently kill the Data Manager by adding a permission for an about: page or a similar uri. And if you do not have a default dictionary entry the passworts won't work either. The later one is already fixed in 2.41+ but the Data Manager changes have not been checked in yet. Anway. I would suggest useing a a new profile after 2.38. So much junk got migrated. Even with the fixed Data Manager I junked mine and never looked back. Cleared a few problems. On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:25:48 -0400, Bill Spikowski wrote: >>Gilles CARINATO wrote: >>> May I advise that the "passwords manager" is not operative for the two last versions of Seamonkey 2.39 and 2.40... >>> Apparently the "remember" function works, but there is no more display available of the identification codes and passwords stored. >> >> >>That's not my experience -- the password manager works the same for me in >>2.40 as it has for years. >> >> Regards Frank-Rainer Grahl ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager improvement request
Gilles CARINATO wrote: May I advise that the "passwords manager" is not operative for the two last versions of Seamonkey 2.39 and 2.40... Apparently the "remember" function works, but there is no more display available of the identification codes and passwords stored. That's not my experience -- the password manager works the same for me in 2.40 as it has for years. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager improvement request
Gilles CARINATO wrote: May I advise that the "passwords manager" is not operative for the two last versions of Seamonkey 2.39 and 2.40... Apparently the "remember" function works, but there is no more display available of the identification codes and passwords stored. Gilles Giles It works for me. What OS are you using? Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager improvement request
May I advise that the "passwords manager" is not operative for the two last versions of Seamonkey 2.39 and 2.40... Apparently the "remember" function works, but there is no more display available of the identification codes and passwords stored. Gilles David E. Ross a écrit : On 3/22/2016 8:17 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote: I had been using the "Remember Passwords 1.1" add-on from Stanimir Stamenkov because of its ability to store passwords from many sites that don't work with the built-in Password Manager. The most recent releases of SeaMonkey are incompatible with this add-on, and it is no longer available. I would like to see the capability of the built-in Password Manager improved to make it more universally functional. I have tried LastPass, but I don't care for it and in any case it is not fully supported for SeaMonkey. John Upgrade your version of SeaMonkey. You are using SeaMonkey 2.22.1. By SeaMonkey 2.38, the functionality of the Remember Passwords extension was significantly incorporated into the "vanilla" SeaMonkey. The current version is SeaMonkey 2.40. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager improvement request
On 3/22/2016 8:17 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote: > I had been using the "Remember Passwords 1.1" add-on from Stanimir > Stamenkov because of its ability to store passwords from many sites that > don't work with the built-in Password Manager. > > The most recent releases of SeaMonkey are incompatible with this add-on, > and it is no longer available. > > I would like to see the capability of the built-in Password Manager > improved to make it more universally functional. I have tried LastPass, > but I don't care for it and in any case it is not fully supported for > SeaMonkey. > > John > Upgrade your version of SeaMonkey. You are using SeaMonkey 2.22.1. By SeaMonkey 2.38, the functionality of the Remember Passwords extension was significantly incorporated into the "vanilla" SeaMonkey. The current version is SeaMonkey 2.40. -- David E. Ross While many tributes to the late Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia now fill the news media, his legacy was not necessarily positive. See my "What Price Order, Mr. Justice Scalia?" at <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_scalia_wrong.html>. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager improvement request
On 3/22/2016 11:17 AM, no...@nonospam.org's fingers rattled off: I had been using the "Remember Passwords 1.1" add-on from Stanimir Stamenkov because of its ability to store passwords from many sites that don't work with the built-in Password Manager. The most recent releases of SeaMonkey are incompatible with this add-on, and it is no longer available. I would like to see the capability of the built-in Password Manager improved to make it more universally functional. I have tried LastPass, but I don't care for it and in any case it is not fully supported for SeaMonkey. John I've been using LastPass in SeaMonkey and Firefox and it works fine. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager improvement request
I had been using the "Remember Passwords 1.1" add-on from Stanimir Stamenkov because of its ability to store passwords from many sites that don't work with the built-in Password Manager. The most recent releases of SeaMonkey are incompatible with this add-on, and it is no longer available. I would like to see the capability of the built-in Password Manager improved to make it more universally functional. I have tried LastPass, but I don't care for it and in any case it is not fully supported for SeaMonkey. John -- Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam? A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address. Therefore, please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What does sender support-seamonkey-bounces.... mean? (WAS:Re: New message. WAS Re: Password Manager)
... that sender uses an invalid sender mail address Hi, I am afraid it might be some more complicated. I also see such dev-apps-seamonkey-bounces+rainerbielefeld_nurng=bielefeldundbuss...@lists.mozilla.org, even in the confirmation mail that I am a subscriber for that list. I will ask mailmanager Best Regards Rainer Bielefeld ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What does sender support-seamonkey-bounces.... mean? (WAS:Re: New message. WAS Re: Password Manager)
Rainer Bielefeld wrote: ... that sender uses an invalid sender mail address Hi, I am afraid it might be some more complicated. I also see such dev-apps-seamonkey-bounces+rainerbielefeld_nurng=bielefeldundbuss...@lists.mozilla.org, even in the confirmation mail that I am a subscriber for that list. I will ask mailmanager Best Regards Rainer Bielefeld I think any bounce messages from subscriber addresses (e.g. if an address doesn't exist, or mailbox is full, etc.) go to that address, instead of to the original sender. The list manager might just ignore such messages, or some mailing lists I've seen automatically unsubscribe addresses which continually bounce for more than a certain time. The copy of a message sent to you has the address you mention in its headers. If it couldn't be delivered for some reason, your mail server (or an intermediate server if it didn't even get that far) would send a message to that address describing the problem. The list software can then deal with the problem, without bothering the original sender who probably doesn't want to be bothered with a whole pile of delivery failure messages every time they post to the list. Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
SameulS wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 08/03/2015 09:34 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: SameulS wrote: Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hi, may I ask your to read and consider https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines? All those hints also are relevant for support requests here. has stopped working is too meaningless, and it's a question of courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Warmest regards. Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too. It helps to read original posts. My PW Manager has stopped working for some strange reason on SM 2.33.1 on a W 8.1pro machine. The additional information I requested would help too. If the OP recently upgraded from say SM 2.26, then his is a well-known problem. If his problem began after updating from say SM 2.31, or unrelated to an update, that's a different matter. This started after down grading from 2.35 or some such version that did not work well for me, so I reverted to 2.33.1 as the newer version was still a test. I did post about the challenges with that version, but most likely did not do in a fashion which the testers/SM gurus could answer or respond to. For this I do apologize as well. Thank you all for your invaluable input and assistance. Thanks for the additional info. Afraid I can't help; I've reverted to 2.26 because of several problems with newer versions (not just passwords), so I don't know what factors between 2.35 and 2.33.1 might be causing this problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
WaltS48 wrote: On 08/03/2015 09:34 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: SameulS wrote: Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hi, may I ask your to read and consider https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines? All those hints also are relevant for support requests here. has stopped working is too meaningless, and it's a question of courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Warmest regards. Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too. It helps to read original posts. My PW Manager has stopped working for some strange reason on SM 2.33.1 on a W 8.1pro machine. The additional information I requested would help too. If the OP recently upgraded from say SM 2.26, then his is a well-known problem. If his problem began after updating from say SM 2.31, or unrelated to an update, that's a different matter. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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What does sender support-seamonkey-bounces.... mean? (WAS:Re: New message. WAS Re: Password Manager)
Keith Whaley schrieb: the words Sender : support-seamonkey support-seamonkey-bounces+keith_w=dslextreme@lists.mozilla.org Hi Keith Whaley, please do not hijack other threads for your questons. Concerning your question: I think reason for such a bounces-address is that sender uses an invalid sender mail address in his account settings for that news server. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
On 08/03/2015 09:34 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: SameulS wrote: Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hi, may I ask your to read and consider https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines? All those hints also are relevant for support requests here. has stopped working is too meaningless, and it's a question of courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Warmest regards. Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too. It helps to read original posts. My PW Manager has stopped working for some strange reason on SM 2.33.1 on a W 8.1pro machine. -- Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela| KDE 4.14.2 | Thunderbird 42.0a1(Daily) Go Bucs! [Coexist · Understanding Across Divides](https://www.coexist.org/) [Visit Pittsburgh](http://www.visitpittsburgh.com) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
Bill Spikowski wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 08/03/2015 09:34 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: SameulS wrote: Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hi, may I ask your to read and consider https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines? All those hints also are relevant for support requests here. has stopped working is too meaningless, and it's a question of courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Warmest regards. Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too. It helps to read original posts. My PW Manager has stopped working for some strange reason on SM 2.33.1 on a W 8.1pro machine. The additional information I requested would help too. If the OP recently upgraded from say SM 2.26, then his is a well-known problem. If his problem began after updating from say SM 2.31, or unrelated to an update, that's a different matter. This started after down grading from 2.35 or some such version that did not work well for me, so I reverted to 2.33.1 as the newer version was still a test. I did post about the challenges with that version, but most likely did not do in a fashion which the testers/SM gurus could answer or respond to. For this I do apologize as well. Thank you all for your invaluable input and assistance. bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
Bill Spikowski wrote: SameulS wrote: Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hi, may I ask your to read and consider https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines? All those hints also are relevant for support requests here. has stopped working is too meaningless, and it's a question of courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Warmest regards. Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too. Bill - the version is 2.33.1. I do apologize as I thought it was included in the original post... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hi, may I ask your to read and consider https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines? All those hints also are relevant for support requests here. has stopped working is too meaningless, and it's a question of courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Warmest regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
SameulS wrote: Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hi, may I ask your to read and consider https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines? All those hints also are relevant for support requests here. has stopped working is too meaningless, and it's a question of courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Warmest regards. Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager
Hello all, A bit of input please... My PW Manager has stopped working for some strange reason on SM 2.33.1 on a W 8.1pro machine. For the last few weeks I have tried to figure out if it was a setting or something else and cannot do so. Any ideas of what to try next? TIA - bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
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Re: Password Manager
On 3/14/2015 9:23 AM, William wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Having encountered too many Web sites where Password Manager no longer fills in user IDs and passwords that were already saved, I have reverted (again) to SeaMonkey 2.26.1 with the Remember Passwords extension. I wanted better control of my passwords and came across a program called Last Password (at Lastpass.com). It stores my passwords in encrypted format, and does a pretty good job of entering them, and user names, when needed. It has other features, including a formfill capacity, that keeps your data, including credit card data, again in encrypted form. I particularly like this, as I am congenitally incapable of memorizing credit card data, and didn't want to try to hide it in my computer where someone might find it. I make contributions yearly to quite a few charities, and this is a lot easier when LastPass kicks in and completes the forms, then asks me if I really want it to enter the credit card information. I've been using it a little over a year and am happy, but lately I have noticed that I am forgetting some userIDs and passwords because of reliance on LastPass and even as my own administrater I can't get them from LastPass in other than encrypted form, and cutting and pasting an encrypted password doesn't work. I have no affiliation with LastPass, other than as a user. I'm just posting this as information. Whoever is interested can look it over and make your own decision. I created a test profile where I installed the Last Password extension. From only a brief test, I get a strong impression that it saves my passwords externally, on some remote server. Is this true? That is definitely NOT what anyone should want. Even if I encrypt my passwords using Password Manager's master password, I still want to restrict the storage of my passwords to my own PC. Password Manager stores the encrypted passwords in the user's profile. I have four profiles, two of which have passwords. All four passwords are in a non-standard location. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote: Having encountered too many Web sites where Password Manager no longer fills in user IDs and passwords that were already saved, I have reverted (again) to SeaMonkey 2.26.1 with the Remember Passwords extension. I wanted better control of my passwords and came across a program called Last Password (at Lastpass.com). It stores my passwords in encrypted format, and does a pretty good job of entering them, and user names, when needed. It has other features, including a formfill capacity, that keeps your data, including credit card data, again in encrypted form. I particularly like this, as I am congenitally incapable of memorizing credit card data, and didn't want to try to hide it in my computer where someone might find it. I make contributions yearly to quite a few charities, and this is a lot easier when LastPass kicks in and completes the forms, then asks me if I really want it to enter the credit card information. I've been using it a little over a year and am happy, but lately I have noticed that I am forgetting some userIDs and passwords because of reliance on LastPass and even as my own administrater I can't get them from LastPass in other than encrypted form, and cutting and pasting an encrypted password doesn't work. I have no affiliation with LastPass, other than as a user. I'm just posting this as information. Whoever is interested can look it over and make your own decision. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/13/2015 8:57 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: My problem with SeaMonkey 2.33 is not about storing passwords. The problem is that passwords that have been stored are not being filled-in on login pages. This is not a problem with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 when I also have installed the Remember Passwords extension, which cannot be used with SeaMonkey 2.33. For the moment, the workaround seems to be to type the first character of the username and SeaMonkey will wake up and fill in the rest. This does not work in SeaMoneky 2.33 when the user ID is entered on one Web page and the password is entered on the next page, especially if autocomplete=off. Since 2.32 autocomplete=off is ignored and therefore you don't need the Remember Passwords extension anymore. I had the very same setup like you on Linux with 2.26.1 and the Remember Passwords extension and I successfully upgraded to 2.33 with all my old passwords. I removed the extension before doing the upgrade (have backup of profile!). Note that the auto-fill behaviour is indeed a bit clumpsy: It seems you have to first click into the password field once and then the username field raises possible stored values as usual. Ciao, Michael. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote: Having encountered too many Web sites where Password Manager no longer fills in user IDs and passwords that were already saved, I have reverted (again) to SeaMonkey 2.26.1 with the Remember Passwords extension. Ever try RoBoForm? It works great for me. Been using it for about 10 years. *RoboForm is completely free to use for up to 10 saved logins. Otherwise it's $9.95 for first year. http://www.roboform.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
On 3/13/2015 9:47 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/13/2015 8:57 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: My problem with SeaMonkey 2.33 is not about storing passwords. The problem is that passwords that have been stored are not being filled-in on login pages. This is not a problem with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 when I also have installed the Remember Passwords extension, which cannot be used with SeaMonkey 2.33. For the moment, the workaround seems to be to type the first character of the username and SeaMonkey will wake up and fill in the rest. This does not work in SeaMonkey 2.33 when the user ID is entered on one Web page and the password is entered on the next page, especially if autocomplete=off. Sure. But when has that ever worked? It worked (and still works) in SeaMonkey 2.26.1 with the Remember Passwords extension. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote:
Having encountered too many Web sites where Password Manager no longer
fills in user IDs and passwords that were already saved, ...
Those web sites may have changed their login forms. So you need to
actively adapt the stored form data in Seamonkey for those websites.
Some websites try to prohibit the storing of usernames and passwords in
the browser. Try the following bookmarklet to override this.
javascript:(function(){var%20ca,cea,cs,df,dfe,i,j,x,y;function%20n(i,what){return%20i+%20+what+((i==1)?:s)}ca=cea=cs=0;df=document.forms;for(i=0;idf.length;++i){x=df[i];dfe=x.elements;if(x.onsubmit){x.onsubmit=;++cs;}if(x.attributes[autocomplete]){x.attributes[autocomplete].value=on;++ca;}for(j=0;jdfe.length;++j){y=dfe[j];if(y.attributes[autocomplete]){y.attributes[autocomplete].value=on;++cea;}}}alert(Removed%20autocomplete=off%20from:\n+n(ca,form)+\n+n(cea,form%20element)+\n\nRemoved%20onsubmit%20from:\n+n(cs,form)+\n\nAfter%20you%20type%20your%20password%20and%20submit%20the%20form,%20the%20browser%20will%20offer%20to%20remember%20your%20password.)})();
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Re: Password Manager
On 3/13/2015 4:19 AM, Hb wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
Having encountered too many Web sites where Password Manager no longer
fills in user IDs and passwords that were already saved, ...
Those web sites may have changed their login forms. So you need to
actively adapt the stored form data in Seamonkey for those websites.
Some websites try to prohibit the storing of usernames and passwords in
the browser. Try the following bookmarklet to override this.
javascript:(function(){var%20ca,cea,cs,df,dfe,i,j,x,y;function%20n(i,what){return%20i+%20+what+((i==1)?:s)}ca=cea=cs=0;df=document.forms;for(i=0;idf.length;++i){x=df[i];dfe=x.elements;if(x.onsubmit){x.onsubmit=;++cs;}if(x.attributes[autocomplete]){x.attributes[autocomplete].value=on;++ca;}for(j=0;jdfe.length;++j){y=dfe[j];if(y.attributes[autocomplete]){y.attributes[autocomplete].value=on;++cea;}}}alert(Removed%20autocomplete=off%20from:\n+n(ca,form)+\n+n(cea,form%20element)+\n\nRemoved%20onsubmit%20from:\n+n(cs,form)+\n\nAfter%20you%20type%20your%20password%20and%20submit%20the%20form,%20the%20browser%20will%20offer%20to%20remember%20your%20password.)})();
Hb
My problem with SeaMonkey 2.33 is not about storing passwords. The
problem is that passwords that have been stored are not being filled-in
on login pages. This is not a problem with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 when I also
have installed the Remember Passwords extension, which cannot be used
with SeaMonkey 2.33.
--
David E. Ross
I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off. See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Re: Password Manager
On 3/13/2015 8:57 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: My problem with SeaMonkey 2.33 is not about storing passwords. The problem is that passwords that have been stored are not being filled-in on login pages. This is not a problem with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 when I also have installed the Remember Passwords extension, which cannot be used with SeaMonkey 2.33. For the moment, the workaround seems to be to type the first character of the username and SeaMonkey will wake up and fill in the rest. This does not work in SeaMoneky 2.33 when the user ID is entered on one Web page and the password is entered on the next page, especially if autocomplete=off. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote: My problem with SeaMonkey 2.33 is not about storing passwords. The problem is that passwords that have been stored are not being filled-in on login pages. This is not a problem with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 when I also have installed the Remember Passwords extension, which cannot be used with SeaMonkey 2.33. For the moment, the workaround seems to be to type the first character of the username and SeaMonkey will wake up and fill in the rest. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
WaltS48 wrote: On 03/12/2015 06:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Having encountered too many Web sites where Password Manager no longer fills in user IDs and passwords that were already saved, I have reverted (again) to SeaMonkey 2.26.1 with the Remember Passwords extension. Switch to Firefox and use the Secure Login extension. Is this extension offered for SeaMonkey? If not, can it be converted for use with SeaMonkey? Does it operate as simply as the Remember Passwords extension that can no longer be used did? I would be interested in checking this out if it can restore the functionality lost since SM 2.26.1 in dealing with passwords. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/13/2015 8:57 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: My problem with SeaMonkey 2.33 is not about storing passwords. The problem is that passwords that have been stored are not being filled-in on login pages. This is not a problem with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 when I also have installed the Remember Passwords extension, which cannot be used with SeaMonkey 2.33. For the moment, the workaround seems to be to type the first character of the username and SeaMonkey will wake up and fill in the rest. This does not work in SeaMonkey 2.33 when the user ID is entered on one Web page and the password is entered on the next page, especially if autocomplete=off. Sure. But when has that ever worked? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager
Having encountered too many Web sites where Password Manager no longer fills in user IDs and passwords that were already saved, I have reverted (again) to SeaMonkey 2.26.1 with the Remember Passwords extension. -- David E. Ross Why do we tolerate political leaders who spend more time belittling hungry children than they do trying to fix the problem of hunger? http://mazon.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager
On 03/12/2015 06:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Having encountered too many Web sites where Password Manager no longer fills in user IDs and passwords that were already saved, I have reverted (again) to SeaMonkey 2.26.1 with the Remember Passwords extension. Switch to Firefox and use the Secure Login extension. -- Kubuntu 14.10 | KDE 4.14.1 | Thunderbird 38.0a2(Earlybird) [Coexist - Understanding Across Divides](https://www.coexist.org/) Proofreader wanted - apply online. ;) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager
On 2/9/2015 3:28 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Acting on a suggestion in an earlier thread in this newsgroup (or was it in the mozilla.general newsgroup?), I installed SeaMonkey 2.32.1, removed the Remember Passwords 1.1 extension, and installed the Saved Password Editor 2.8.2 extension. I then found that my master password was no longer being requested, and automatic filling in user IDs and passwords no longer occurred. Since recent firefox and seamonkey now ignore the autocomplete=off on password input fields you can just use SeaMonkey 2.32.1 without such an extension. Triggering the username/password auto-fill is a bit clumsy though as it does not always just work. Clicking the password field before double-clicking the username field seems to always work. Did not have the time to do in-depth tests for a bug report yet. Ciao, Michael. Yes, autocomplete=off is generally ignored only when inputting a new password. Then Password Manager will indeed allow the user to save the password. My experience, however, is that autocomplete=off is not ignored for passwords already saved if the user ID and password are entered in separate Web pages, a situation that is becoming more and more common. In that case, the password is not filled in. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote: On 2/9/2015 3:28 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Acting on a suggestion in an earlier thread in this newsgroup (or was it in the mozilla.general newsgroup?), I installed SeaMonkey 2.32.1, removed the Remember Passwords 1.1 extension, and installed the Saved Password Editor 2.8.2 extension. I then found that my master password was no longer being requested, and automatic filling in user IDs and passwords no longer occurred. Since recent firefox and seamonkey now ignore the autocomplete=off on password input fields you can just use SeaMonkey 2.32.1 without such an extension. Triggering the username/password auto-fill is a bit clumsy though as it does not always just work. Clicking the password field before double-clicking the username field seems to always work. Did not have the time to do in-depth tests for a bug report yet. Yes, autocomplete=off is generally ignored only when inputting a new password. Then Password Manager will indeed allow the user to save the password. It uses my old password stored before (with Remember Passwords extension). My experience, however, is that autocomplete=off is not ignored for passwords already saved if the user ID and password are entered in separate Web pages, a situation that is becoming more and more common. In that case, the password is not filled in. You have to dig out the details on what makes the web page separate. At the moment things work for me. Ciao, Michael. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote: Web pages, a situation that is becoming more and more common. In that case, the password is not filled in. They are common of financial and banking sites, which you really, really, really shouldn't save and autofill credentials! A practice that is a safe as looking down the barrel to see if a gun is loaded. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager
David E. Ross wrote: Acting on a suggestion in an earlier thread in this newsgroup (or was it in the mozilla.general newsgroup?), I installed SeaMonkey 2.32.1, removed the Remember Passwords 1.1 extension, and installed the Saved Password Editor 2.8.2 extension. I then found that my master password was no longer being requested, and automatic filling in user IDs and passwords no longer occurred. Since recent firefox and seamonkey now ignore the autocomplete=off on password input fields you can just use SeaMonkey 2.32.1 without such an extension. Triggering the username/password auto-fill is a bit clumsy though as it does not always just work. Clicking the password field before double-clicking the username field seems to always work. Did not have the time to do in-depth tests for a bug report yet. Ciao, Michael. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
