Re: can't delete text with del key anymore
Hi Andr, On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 08:08:41 +0200 you wrote: AE What I'll try to do now is re-install TB! AE That didn't fix the problem. :-( You can set this in the 'Editor options'. There are two check boxes named 'persistent blocks' and 'overwrite blocks' (or 'Block berschreibbar' and 'Block nicht berschreibbar' in German). Check the first one and uncheck the second one. That should do the trick. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: can't delete text with del key anymore
Hello Lars, On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 08:24:32GMT +0200 (which was 8:24:32 AM where I live) you wrote: LG Hi Andr, LG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 08:08:41 +0200 you wrote: AE What I'll try to do now is re-install TB! AE That didn't fix the problem. :-( LG You can set this in the 'Editor options'. There are two check LG boxes named 'persistent blocks' and 'overwrite blocks' (or 'Block LG berschreibbar' and 'Block nicht berschreibbar' in German). LG Check the first one and uncheck the second one. That should do LG the trick. Nope, but the opposite did! Thanks for pointing me there! I had both unchecked first, I did as you recommended and nothing changed, I checked only the "overwrite blocks" option and now it works again! Vielen Dank!!! Thanks alot!!! :-) -- Best regards, Andr Engelhardt /--\ |Eternal Tedium Sound Media Design | |http://www.eternaltedium.com | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Mobile: +49 162 751 8530 (sms capable)| |PGP Key ID: 0x927EF264| \--/ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: threading
Hi Michael, On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:24:01 -0400GMT (18/04/01, 12:24 +0800GMT), azrael wrote: Tmtdc Firstly Michael, I am having trouble following your posts with your rather Tmtdc unorthodox style of quoting. a I think it's more a case of *learn a syle* since I'm a happy to adopt the standard here. It's much better now. :-) Tmtdc Secondly, you seem to somehow be taking replies to existing threads and Tmtdc starting new threads with the reply. a I appreciate your feedback Nick but what you're seeing a is out of my ignorance. In order to alter it I need to a be shown correct format. While breaking up the threads a may be obvious to you and others, I'm oblivious of it. You cannot do anything about it, because you read in digest mode. This breaks the threads automatically. :-( Only when you receive the messages as individual mails, will the thread be automatically preserved when you reply. Since you have a lot of questions, it would be good to switch to individual mails anyway, and see the replies faster, wouldn't it? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Next/Prev message after a delete...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OM I admit it is a little detail, but it would be *so* much more OM comfortable to have it move to the logical "next" (the previous line OM == the next more recent message) in that case. CB What if you select an alphabetical sender or subject order? In fact it CB moves exactly you describe, it moves to the logical "next". (older one CB in descendent date order, newer in ascendent) Yes Chema, though the last three words of my sentence "...in that case" were the key : I'm discussing the date order, not the alphabetic order. Anyway, my wish is simply to have a choice (a setup choice per account or per folder) allowing me to control how TheBat! moves the selection to the 'next' message when I just deleted the currently highlighted one. You know, even Outlook has that setting. I'm sure The Bat! has some way to do it, simply I did not yet find it. Do you have a solution for this ? Thank you so much, - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOt0uUKSbOXgumurfEQJzIgCfbLElGMfqq8APWRnvAun7oRuecTIAn1hP nhRWzLeM0gZLi7HKObTv3vrp =zex0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: can't delete text with del key anymore
Hi Andr, On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 08:38:52 +0200 you wrote: AE Nope, but the opposite did! Thanks for pointing me there! I AE had both unchecked first, I did as you recommended and AE nothing changed, I checked only the "overwrite blocks" option AE and now it works again! That's what I meant, I just mixed them up. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: threading
Hi Nick, On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:50:44 -0700GMT (18/04/2001, 12:50 +0800GMT), Nick Andriash wrote: NA I also note you have the initials "Tmtdc" attributed to my quote, and I NA have no idea how that has happened. I take a guess. These could be the initials of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: SendTo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ottar! On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 at 9:50:50 PM you wrote: DH Is this "SendTo" from the rightclick menu? Or from the file menu? Rightclick 2. My templates is not activated. DH Is an address in the TO field? No I think it was Marck who wrote about MAPI always working the way you described it. In the moment I can't recall how I got TB! into the "SendTo" menu, by MAPI or by putting a link into the folder by hand. When I just tested it, everything worked like it should: I rightclicked a file, sent it to TB!, which opened an "Edit Message" window with my account template and was active. So, now to what may happen to you: To invoke the right template you need (for individual AB entries) an adressee in the TO field or (for folder templates) you have to open a new message from the appropriate folder in TB!. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/7 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Ein Berater ist jemand, der 49 Liebespositionen kennt, aber kein einziges Mdchen. (Kasimir M. Magyar) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOt0xTPTo1oA8g8dLEQLgZQCg6ARWGgg0BpO7aJ8FLcCko4yc4D0An373 LA4JpuCHCnsvFz7JTv1zNse0 =1gMz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: threaded quoting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 2:27:15 AM you wrote: Tmtdc Another option would be to remove the %Quotes macro from your reply Tmtdc template and enable in the message editor 'View'= 'Original Text'. From Tmtdc the original text window you can copy and paste as a quotation what you like. Maybe I know how the above paragraph came to happen. TB! uses *one complete blank line* to identify paragraphs. With Auto-Format/Auto-Wrap it will wrap any text that is not separated by a blank line into one paragraph to your desired line length (preferably 70 characters). This way the identifier (initials) gets wrapped, too. the result you can see above. Hitting F4 generated the above message. As I said earlier the %Quotes macro is a mystery to me. I don't understand it let alone dare to change it. %Quotes just takes out the original text, puts it in your reply with quoting identifier (as you have chosen under Account/Properties/Templates/Reply). You cannot change the "macro" per se as it is hard coded, you can just take it out or put it in your reply templates. I prefer the old-fashioned way to have the complete text in my reply and delete portions of it by hand. Doesn't work with digest mode. Could you or someone just explain the basics of threaded messaging? How can I best take your comments out of my digest, quote them and then reply still keeping the integrity of the threading? Threading like a news reader (i.e. Agent). TB! utilises some of the headers to put messages on the same subject together. The best way is View by/References. At present I see that as highlight text, F4, and reply to individual thoughts (yours) by inserting my comments between them. Correct. Especially for digests. Also, reply or F4 puts "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: bar of the message. Thus far I've been dutifully cleaning that up to the suggested reply address of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I suspect that's an unnecessary PITA but better than chancing a critique by mailer-daemon You won't get one, you don't have to change it. You can trust TB! on the most basic e-mail client jobs. And not just there, but the more complex a task gets the more error prone it becomes - especially on user's side. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/7 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Absurdity: A statement of belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOt03XfTo1oA8g8dLEQInXgCfZHlgXYqRrV0PFYJ7yW6RDkQYxl4AoPx/ 7iemyP3ml0Ygpzr9+cHGZnaD =0Bip -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: threaded quoting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:27:15 -0400, azrael thoughtfully wrote the
following:
I see that you're already getting a lot of help there Azrael. Good.
However, I'll throw in my little bit because things explained to you in
different words etc. usually leads to a full understanding.
a Hitting F4 generated the above message. As I said earlier the %Quotes
a macro is a mystery to me. I don't understand it let alone dare to
a change it.
Don't dare? vbg They bark way more than they actually bite, believe me.
These macros are just requests made by you to output portions of text or
information that's in the message to which you're replying. It will also
output system information for you such as the date and time (%Date, %Time)
or other useful information. They were designed to prevent repetitive
actions.
%Quotes will quote all the message body for you. Anywhere you place it in
you template, all the message body of the message to which you're replying
will be quoted. Another related macro is %Text. This one will output the
entire text of the message without quoting it.
The best way to understand these macros is to experiment with them.
There's an article in the TB! FAQ which outlines the template structure
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. It will also give you
an idea of what these templates and macros can do for you. Experiment away
. :=)
a At present only paste functions are usable in the message editor. Would
a 'View'= change that? What if any function do the apostrophes ('View')
a have? Are they omitted in actual practice?
I was actually giving directions to menu items. "View" is actually
pointing to the View menu item in your editor window.
a Could you or someone just explain the basics of threaded messaging?
Threading is simply the process of grouping together messages which have
some common attribute. They may share the same subject (threading by
subject), they may share the same reference ID's in their headers
(threading by references), they may share the same author (threading by
sender/from) or they may share the same recipient (threading by
recipient/to). You will see these choices in the View menus under the
submenu item 'View threads by'. Most use either threading by references or
threading by subject.
Let me explain threading by references:
Each of TB!'s and some other e-mail client's messages have a unique
message ID which is in the headers. The message ID for your message is as
taken from your message headers:
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you were to examine the headers for this message that I'm sending to
you, you will see that my message has its own unique ID as yours has, and
below that you will also see:
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^
That's your message ID. The one to which I'm replying.
TB! uses that piece of header information to associate my message with
yours, and through these message ID's TB! will also know that my message
is a direct response to yours. They will therefore be threaded together
as below (irrespective of when I send the message to you):
+ - Your message
|
- - My message
My message will appear chronologically after yours if you also thread in
descending order based on received time.
The only way to truly grasp this is to see threading in action. I suggest
that you switch to receiving TBUDL messages individually and then switch
to threading by references, with sorting by received time in descending
order.
a How can I best take your comments out of my digest, quote them and then
a reply still keeping the integrity of the threading?
Hopefully, you'll realize after my explanation that this cannot be done.
Since when you reply to the digest message, you're not replying directly
to me. TB! will therefore not be able to generate that critical piece of
header information:
In-Reply-To: my message id
This is therefore another reason to encourage switching to receiving the
messages individually if you wish to participate heavily in the discussion
group. :=)
a At present I see that as highlight text, F4, and reply to individual
a thoughts (yours) by inserting my comments between them.
Yes. That's all you can really do when replying to plain digest messages.
a Also, reply or F4 puts "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
a [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: bar of the message. Thus far I've
a been dutifully cleaning that up to the suggested reply address of
a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I suspect that's an unnecessary PITA but
a better than chancing a critique by mailer-daemon.
Again, that's because you're replying to the message digest. That's the
addressing that TB! dutifully extracted from the digest headers. Yet
another reason not to use digests if you frequently feel the need to reply
to posters contributions. g
- --
Allie,
-= A. Curtis Martin =-
List Moderator (and fellow end-user)
The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1)
Re[3]: Next/Prev message after a delete...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Listers, On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 09:03:54 [GMT +0200] (same time where I live) Olivier wrote: OM order. Anyway, my wish is simply to have a choice (a setup choice per OM account or per folder) allowing me to control how TheBat! moves the OM selection to the 'next' message when I just deleted the currently OM highlighted one. You know, even Outlook has that setting. I'm sure The OM Bat! has some way to do it, simply I did not yet find it. There is an option on Message View window (the one you get double-clicking on message) wich delete a message and moves to the next or previous message. Yes, it would be great if the same keystroke (ctrl+shift+up or ctrl+shift+down) could be used in message list. - -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys Using The Bat! v1.51 on Spanish Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Firmado y sellado iQCVAwUBOt1wuhL6LXmtMKEzAQE/pgP+Iz12+IMfLfroaxOCDYKNpYVs53vpUEr/ MrXvFjcm2eRItpXDuCnX6zAacHW2+VLI4gmvh66hUPtuz04yMXb9vUKxKG8SyL0D 6Vpl88cCUpEIb4VOozrZv05Zrel7pnjEZOutsy+BFAbPCD7j/ewklRcOklkeWMNi VYwuBPcTG9o= =Z+et -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Save the message?
Hello TBUDL! This happens a lot: I start to write a message but then I decide that it propably would be best not to send that :-) So I close the message-writing window and TB! asks me if I want to save the message or not... it doesn't matter whether I answer yes or no - the message goes into outbox (as a draft). Same thing happens if I click the "cancel the message"-icon. Is this due auto-save (which apparently can't be turned off)? Shouldn't there be a way to *really* cancel the message without having to clean the outbox from the drafts that I didn't want to save in the first place? Or is there a way? Something so obvious it makes me blush... :-) -- Best regards, Pete Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: threading
On April 18, 2001, at 12:12:26 AM, Thomas wrote: NA I also note you have the initials "Tmtdc" attributed to my quote, and NA I have no idea how that has happened. I take a guess. These could be the initials of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so. ;-) Ah, that would be the problem then... what can he do to remedy that? Why isn't TB! picking up on the initials of the Sender if that is the way he has is Reply Template set up? Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Save the message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 17, 2001, at 12:34:41 PM, Pete P wrote: Same thing happens if I click the "cancel the message"-icon. Is this due auto-save (which apparently can't be turned off)? Shouldn't there be a way to *really* cancel the message without having to clean the outbox from the drafts that I didn't want to save in the first place? Yes, you simply turn off Auto-save under Options/Editor Preferences by leaving the box blank. Now, when you cancel or delete a message, it will not be saved as a draft. Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOt2WqMUChHR7o/3OEQJ/uQCg5BgmtU3edSa20r9pGBV2LlG73DcAoMv5 bDKSJ6cSnb+MhKdpvD7aOBNl =d7eK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: threading
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, On 18 April 2001 at 06:25:08 -0700 (which was 14:25 where I live) Nick Andriash wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: NA I also note you have the initials "Tmtdc" attributed to my quote, and NA I have no idea how that has happened. I take a guess. These could be the initials of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so. ;-) NA Ah, that would be the problem then... what can he do to remedy NA that? Why isn't TB! picking up on the initials of the Sender if NA that is the way he has is Reply Template set up? Oh it is. The Digest is sent by "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" - aka Tmtdc. Replying to a digest doesn't actually help anyone at all. In fact, the truth is that digest mode is okay for lurking and reading up but useless for anyone intending to contribute or have conversations. MIME digests work well for this but they aren't available on our servers. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOt2ZDznkJKuSnc2gEQJy3ACeIZJ8D8BeXY5FGgui9wCjERPmXX0AoMTc x1e4GxKKHk3fkrlTtsw8QPFF =Waw7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Save the message?
Hello Nick, Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 4:29:14 PM, you wrote: Shouldn't there be a way to *really* cancel the message without having to clean the outbox from the drafts that I didn't want to save in the first place? NA Yes, you simply turn off Auto-save under Options/Editor Preferences by NA leaving the box blank. Now, when you cancel or delete a message, it will NA not be saved as a draft. Yes... of course! I thought that because there was no checkbox it can't be turned off... Thank you Nick! -- Best regards, Pete _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm still with my problem of 'no MailTicker' anymore... Is there a support list or email address with RITLabs which I could contact about this ? I'm sorry but I've got proxy problems for now and can't get back to their web page right now... Yes, I have ordered and received yesterday my registration for the product. Thank you for any suggestion, - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOt2a86SbOXgumurfEQJs1wCg2dtufChJc1tGf8H/idBoBNuHKu0AoITm 57HAIqlsWVXBejyGo0RrOiCM =5K4Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: SendTo
Hello Dierk, Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 9:16:43 AM, you wrote: DH I think it was Marck who wrote about MAPI always working the way DH you described it. DH In the moment I can't recall how I got TB! into the "SendTo" menu, by DH MAPI or by putting a link into the folder by hand. When I just tested DH it, everything worked like it should: I have used the MAPI Send to mail recipient, instead of The Bat entry further down the list (blush slightly...). The Bat entry works just fine. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Olivier! On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 4:47:25 PM you wrote: I'm still with my problem of 'no MailTicker' anymore... Is there a support list or email address with RITLabs which I could contact about this ? The list you have reached (and I think Marck tried to answer). For TB! support look under Help/Feedback. For your MT prob: Have you tried to change your resolution to a higher one and then drag the MT back to the middle of your screen? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/7 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization. (Georges Clemenceau) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOt2ma/To1oA8g8dLEQLmBQCfRraDWIsmZyOtjHbkZ2UBjHX3Bm4AnjSJ Ctm5IDOk2xlTHuE5m77CGH7p =SVOp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 18, 2001, at 7:47:25 AM, Olivier Mascia wrote: I'm still with my problem of 'no MailTicker' anymore... Well, I presume you've double checked the obvious... Options/Mail Ticker and "Show Automatically" or "Show Always" to see if that makes a difference? Aside from that, did you take a look in the Registry as per Marck's posting in this thread? Other than that, I have no idea. Sounds though like you've inadvertently hidden it, or it somehow found it's way off the side of your screen. Have you also tried a Scandisk followed by a Defrag? Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOt20+MUChHR7o/3OEQL1TACdFUzycN0So1vIyDvT+m38rzTGqDAAoPWM kGmIRY8AA7UJOF+fx6QRA3NO =iJdf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm still with my problem of 'no MailTicker' anymore... Is there a support list or email address with RITLabs which I could contact about this ? DH The list you have reached (and I think Marck tried to answer). Ok. DH For TB! support look under Help/Feedback. I'll write to them also. DH For your MT prob: Have you tried to change your resolution to a higher DH one and then drag the MT back to the middle of your screen? Yes, I switched back to the previous resolution of 1280x1024 : no MailTicker anyway. I'm puzzled. I will attempt a backup then a full uninstall / fresh install / and restore of my message database this evening. - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOt2ovKSbOXgumurfEQJ9uQCeLaQJEQbZJx4waF3hTbGb2l75FhkAoMx7 3ENXzY4pjZVTkghGhFiuwfJ8 =ckib -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm still with my problem of 'no MailTicker' anymore... NA Well, I presume you've double checked the obvious... Options/Mail Ticker NA and "Show Automatically" or "Show Always" to see if that makes a NA difference? Of course I did : no difference. NA Aside from that, did you take a look in the Registry as per Marck's NA posting in this thread? Other than that, I have no idea. Sounds though NA like you've inadvertently hidden it, or it somehow found it's way off the NA side of your screen. I modified the registry settings, could not get it back. I suppose I should try removing every RITLabs registry setting. I'll proceed with a backup/uninstall/clean/install/restore messages this evening : it *must* fix it !... NA Have you also tried a Scandisk followed by a Defrag? I hardly see how it could be related to the problem, so I'll take it for humour. Thanks, no I didn't, but I've turned off the microwave oven :-) - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOt2pxaSbOXgumurfEQLF0wCfQD5w0Pf+oCDUSH6YBRgMog/Oa5IAn3f6 bBzBjy8DEbqiMFHvJKhCfdJi =O3be -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
Hi Olivier, On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 17:50:44 +0200 you wrote: Well, I presume you've double checked the obvious... Options/Mail Ticker Your messages will wrap a lot better if you switch off PGP's word wrapping. Marck, what do you think, shouldn't this be in the FAQ under the PGP section? When rewriting the FAQ I suggest adding this. I modified the registry settings, could not get it back. I suppose I should try removing every RITLabs registry setting. What did you modify? The key where the ticker settings are stored is HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Ticker. You should delete the values 'Left' and 'Top' there. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, I presume you've double checked the obvious... Options/Mail Ticker LG LG Your messages will wrap a lot better if you switch off PGP's word LG wrapping. Ok. Just switched off the PGP word wrapping. I had the habit to let it active because of Outlook Express before switching to The Bat!. I suppose that The Bat! word wrapping is sufficient for correct PGP handling of the message. I modified the registry settings, could not get it back. I suppose I should try removing every RITLabs registry setting. LG What did you modify? The key where the ticker settings are stored LG is HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Ticker. You should delete the LG values 'Left' and 'Top' there. Right key. First fixed the values to 0. Save. Exit/restart The Bat : no Ticker. Deleted those 2 : same. Deleted the whole Ticker key and subkeys/values (took a copy before) : same. It puzzles me. As said, I'll uninstall/clean/re-install before going further. I'll post my results after that. Thanks everybody, - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOt20K6SbOXgumurfEQLv+gCgiJAyjf33MJI5xOmHNHSdZWvty24AnA+y xrZVBvN6z+7WwlWNxVxcsnKb =gOs4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Maximum or recommended folder size?
Hello TBUDL, Apart from hardware configuration limitations, is there a a safe (limit risk of file corruption, ability of TB! to handle big message folders etc) not to exceed in terms of number of messages per folder or size of the Messages.tbb. file? -- Best regards, jlaikan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Error message:Could not store the message
Hello TheBat! users, I am running the bat from an zip disk, and till sofar I never had problems with it which I couldn't solve myself. But now I have :( Every time I want to send a message I get the error message: "Could not store the message". Without any other information. I checked my Zip disk and there is plenty of space. Does someone know how to solve my problem? Thanks, Arjan Spoelstra, Albany NY. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Olivier, On 18 April 2001 at 18:35:01 +0200 (which was 17:35 where I live) Olivier Mascia wrote to Lars Geiger and made these points: OM Right key. First fixed the values to 0. Save. Exit/restart The Bat : OM no Ticker. Deleted those 2 : same. Deleted the whole Ticker key and OM subkeys/values (took a copy before) : same. It puzzles me. As said, OM I'll uninstall/clean/re-install before going further. I'll post my OM results after that. Try this: Exit TB *then* change the registry. TB Resaves it's remembered settings on exit. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOt3YJDnkJKuSnc2gEQLVLwCcCHXA0g6ldVNn+Do4NWAtMzdPn3wAn2sX 9pwUxSczdnI4UpIjJswWqDFA =Mq9R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Error message:Could not store the message
Hello Arjan, Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 1:53:05 PM, you wrote: AS I am running the bat from an zip disk, and till sofar I never had problems with it which I couldn't solve myself. But now I have :( AS Every time I want to send a message I get the error message: "Could not store the message". Without any other information. AS I checked my Zip disk and there is plenty of space. Does someone know how to solve my problem? AS Thanks, Perhaps you might be hitting a bad spot of the zip disk? Have you tried to run scandisk on it? Can you write anything to it using another application? Have you tried another zip disk, or, popped it out then back in? -- Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/3 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Gerry Doyon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment or non text part has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Error message:Could not store the message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Arjan! On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 7:53:05 PM you wrote: I am running the bat from an zip disk, and till sofar I never had problems with it which I couldn't solve myself. But now I have :( Every time I want to send a message I get the error message: "Could not store the message". Without any other information. I checked my Zip disk and there is plenty of space. Does someone know how to solve my problem? I don't know if that really helps, but have you tried to check your Zip disk and drive with Steve Gibson's *TIP*? Maybe there is something wrong with your drive/disk. URL: http://www.grc.com - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/7 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C First Rule for Corners: Slow In, Fast Out -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOt3INvTo1oA8g8dLEQLKwQCgj/nMXqNWOqf6FTfdqrNfvbvQFJsAoKhd T3pll9+QrCjgjPzx9an6TBTS =Libp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MDP Try this: Exit TB *then* change the registry. TB Resaves it's MDP remembered settings on exit. Hey ! *That* was the trick ! It did it. Thanks Marck !! - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOt3OsaSbOXgumurfEQL0sACg3VypzVAX7xaViA8dfX8HySIREEEAnRln sjtH+hQ8YZ49w9SICT4eLEZp =zq9n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, Is it possible to re-order the folder list ? I can create easily new folders, but I can't find a way to update their relative position. All new folders are listed at the end of the list. Can I move them ? - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOt3QSKSbOXgumurfEQJ0rgCg00WIMdzlQsxNZat0PoiShqLtnPUAnjl/ v4hWpnoFywevDQrFHJe2035P =yCXZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Setting Sign when completed option per folder ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 at 18:56 (my local time), Dierk Haasis wrote: Would it be possible to set the "Sign when completed" option on a per folder basis ? I have folders where I'm interested to always sign messages and other not. DH Marck, please don't hit me. ;-) DH 1. Uncheck the sign option in the menu or PGP options. DH 2. Put the macro %SIGNCOMPLETE at the end of a folder template DH containing your message template for the folder. Alternatively use the DH macro in individual templates for the addressees you want to sign DH messages for. That's interesting! Let's see if it works. :o) Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iQA/AwUBOt3ThAM2UgbhB3TOEQJDyQCgyLuMIFVBfjRZul5EsUC18pBSR/EAn3LZ 9HEqbMhra4kae0eU1028d3qf =fMNz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Setting Sign when completed option per folder ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 20:48 (my local time), I wrote: PM That's interesting! Let's see if it works. :o) It obviously does! Thank you, Dierk :o)) Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iQA/AwUBOt3VyQM2UgbhB3TOEQItsgCg5M/fsNpB45sfQ5SueR27GVOF5w4AoNOA y7nr7QdXtsJSBMwmFECgcleG =F+WM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
All you have to do is hold down the [Alt] key while click-and-dragging the folders to your desired order. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, Is it possible to re-order the folder list ? I can create easily new folders, but I can't find a way to update their relative position. All new folders are listed at the end of the list. Can I move them ? - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOt3QSKSbOXgumurfEQJ0rgCg00WIMdzlQsxNZat0PoiShqLtnPUAnjl/ v4hWpnoFywevDQrFHJe2035P =yCXZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Olivier, On 18 April 2001 at 20:34:58 +0200 (which was 19:34 where I live) Olivier Mascia wrote to TBUDL and made these points: OM Is it possible to re-order the folder list ? Yes. OM I can create easily new folders, but I can't find a way to update OM their relative position. All new folders are listed at the end of OM the list. Can I move them ? Use Alt-Drag to move folders alongside others or Ctrl-Alt-Drag to drop one folder into another. HTH - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOt3jtznkJKuSnc2gEQLm5ACg6iQxsUcrcMesEbHrxy3b6xrsh5MAn2L/ 5D42dER8vOkk+Z0DrQzvddp1 =quGd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 8:57:59 PM you wrote: OM I can create easily new folders, but I can't find a way to update OM their relative position. All new folders are listed at the end of OM the list. Can I move them ? Use Alt-Drag to move folders alongside others or Ctrl-Alt-Drag to drop one folder into another. Don't forget, if he likes alphabetical ordering, just click on the column's title bar. (So much for consistent grammar) - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/7 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wer sich nicht verbiegen lt, zerbricht! (Aleks Papst) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOt3Y9fTo1oA8g8dLEQI4mwCffCHCnJyDZUagEWvMROj5+5TzKJIAoIUx DQV49NSbaAG4K8luyBUYQhZw =4C6z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 18, 2001, at 8:50:44 AM, Olivier Mascia wrote: NA Have you also tried a Scandisk followed by a Defrag? I hardly see how it could be related to the problem, so I'll take it for humour. Thanks, no I didn't, but I've turned off the microwave oven :-) A little patronising there Olivier... and not much appreciated. The "if all else fails" suggestion to run Scandisk/Defrag was not meant as humour, as those Applications do remedy cross linked files, etc., and was given in earnest. I've remedied many strange happenings on my Computer by running those two Applications. Nevertheless, I see you now have a resolve to your problem, and that is good. Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOt3nv8UChHR7o/3OEQKqFACbBpO0cv6wSWYa7lyVvEFcvlt5BDoAnApU X0BU6qUxNER1mKL2Bqlmztob =cZlS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
Greetings, (I posted this only recently, in response to kind help from Thomas.) (I will appreciate comments and corrections, too.) Do you want to put all Bat mail folders in alphabetical order perhaps? But do you also want some *other* kind of overriding order, "above" alphabetical order? I do. To order only alphabetically, click the large bar (with the single word "folder") just above the display of the folder hierarchy. Then answer "yes." BUT before that, notice . . . Are you sure you want ALL of your account re-ordered? It does not seem possible to re-order only the folders contained in just one folder. The entire account - including Inbox etc. - will be reordered alphabetically. It can be messy. Folders of filtered mail will mix with Inbox and Outbox and Sent, for example. You will notice that you can use numbers (1, 1.09, 2.0, 2.009 as prefixes for folder names) and other symbols before letters, as a way of overriding strict alphabetical ordering. Next chore? Having my filter folders automatically created within a folder, so filter folders do not mix with the entire account. Ideas anybody? David Robert Austen From: David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- OM Hash: SHA1 OM Hello all, OM Is it possible to re-order the folder list ? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 2:12:04 PM, you wrote: Don't forget, if he likes alphabetical ordering, just click on the column's title bar. (So much for consistent grammar) The trouble with that is that it also moves the inbox, outbox and sent into the alpha mix. You'll have a he** of a time getting them back where you want them. For some reason, sometimes when you drag a folder, the next folder is the one which gets moved. I am now sorry I ever tried to rearrange folders. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Different fonts for different use
Hi, I have a wish, that is probably impossible;) Wouldn't it be good if we could chose one type of font for reading the posts, and another for writing messages?! I'm asking this because I have in TB some fonts that look great while I'm reading the post, but when I want to reply the look of the text is all messed up [the font is either bigger or smaller] and vice versa, the font looks good only in the Message Editor. Dejan -- . Message written at 7:27 PM Email Client The Bat 1.51 . -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Norton antivirus 2001 the bat
Hello TBUDL, I am using a trial version of norton antivirus 2001 which has the capability for email scanning and lists a whole bunch of progs it supports but the bat! is not one of them. It then gives a 'fairly' straightforward way to manually configure account settings, ie basically changing the pop server from your default isp thing to go through norton as pop.norton or something along those lines. My question is this, I have (at the moment) 3 email accounts all with unique settings that I dload all at once. One of which is the decidedly flaky gmx (thanks to all the help from the list in setting that up btw :) ) so I would like any suggestions on whether to bother with using the manual setup or not and if so how best to do so with the bat, ie any other security or otherwise settings to alter in either the bat or norton. Thanks for all you help. -- Best regards, Russmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:33:04 +0200, Sir wrote these comments: SJ I have a wish, that is probably impossible;) Wouldn't it be good if SJ we could chose one type of font for reading the posts, and another SJ for writing messages?! SJ I'm asking this because I have in TB some fonts that look great SJ while I'm reading the post, but when I want to reply the look of the SJ text is all messed up [the font is either bigger or smaller] and SJ vice versa, the font looks good only in the Message Editor. Isn't it that the font is different rather than the font being just bigger or smaller. TB! tends to auto-select an appropriate font for message replies, i.e., one that will support all characters generated in the reply quotation etc. and it will also use a font that supports the charset used by the sender. Your preferred font seems to have limited character support so TB! tends to change it to another when needed. You can override this by right clicking on the status bar, in the editor, the area displaying the charset and changing the charset manually. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt4A5VfJ62ArBxfiEQIqIQCcDV/nPgnnd9oil5UXG/rKsbqXQPkAoKvS Aiyes/atX9Y49NRsDgsroiFw =/SPT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Different fonts for different use
Hi Allie, On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 16:02:29 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Different fonts for different use': Allie TB! tends to auto-select an appropriate font for message replies, i.e., Allie one that will support all characters generated in the reply quotation etc. I'm sure you're right but I'm surprised I haven't seen TB! do this in all the time I have been using it. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.51/WinMe ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
message vanished
Hi, I just accidently deleted a message I wanted to keep. I found it in the trash folder and moved it back to the folder I deleted it from, but now it seems to be totally gone. It never appeared in the folder I moved it to and isn't in the trash folder anymore, either. I searched all my folders for it and also browsed the folders to see the recently deleted messages. No luck! I haven't purged or compressed, yet, so I assume the message should still be somewhere. Any ideas how to get it back? -- Best regards, Susanne -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
On 18-04-2001 at 17:50, Olivier Mascia kindly wrote: I'm still with my problem of 'no MailTicker' anymore... NA Have you also tried a Scandisk followed by a Defrag? I hardly see how it could be related to the problem, so I'll take it for humour. Thanks, no I didn't, but I've turned off the microwave oven :-) Try switching off your coffee pot? Alledgedly, TB 2.0 will take care of all your caffeine needs. On a more serious note: you could try to temporarily increase your screen resolution and check whether your ticker has wandered off the screen. You wouldn't be the first victim of an eloped ticker - K - -- You will find me if you want me in the garden unless it's pouring down with rain - Einstrzende Neubauten: The Garden -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
On 18-04-2001 at 21:15, Nick Andriash kindly wrote: On April 18, 2001, at 8:50:44 AM, Olivier Mascia wrote: NA Have you also tried a Scandisk followed by a Defrag? I hardly see how it could be related to the problem, so I'll take it for humour. Thanks, no I didn't, but I've turned off the microwave oven :-) A little patronising there Olivier... and not much appreciated. The "if all else fails" suggestion to run Scandisk/Defrag was not meant as humour, But Olivier's reply was. Nick, we've seen plenty of jokes about TB 2.0 being able to make coffee. Actually, I relish the possiblity of it also being able to take care of my microwave ;-) - K - -- When I turned thirty, I broke off diplomatic relations with the Pepsi generation. Any hip young people want to communicate with me, they have to go through the Swiss. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: message vanished
On 19-04-2001 at 01:42, Susanne kindly wrote: I just accidently deleted a message I wanted to keep. I found it in the trash folder and moved it back to the folder I deleted it from, but now it seems to be totally gone. It never appeared in the folder I moved it to and isn't in the trash folder anymore, either. (..) Any ideas how to get it back? If you inadvertedly lost a message in any folder, focus on that folder and go to the main menu -- Folder -- Browse deleted messages. You will then see all moved and deleted messages. (*) From that message list, you can move them to a new destination. (**) * At this level, TB doesn't distinguish between "moved" and "deleted". Both are deleted from the folder's index. ** You cannot move a deleted message from the deleted list back to its original folder: you need to take an intermediate step, e.g. move it to your inbox and reallocate it from there. You can try doing this either from your inbox (since that is where the message must have arrived at first) or from the trash folder (since that is where it was moved from). Another, more elaborate solution is to search through your account for the message. But I realise that you can only do so if you remember part of its header or its content... - K - -- ... she had come to realise that Authority, even when it refrained from violence, could be as disturbing a specter as anything she had seen. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: message vanished
Hi Karin, Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 5:20:58 PM, you wrote: If you inadvertedly lost a message in any folder, focus on that folder and go to the main menu -- Folder -- Browse deleted messages. You will then see all moved and deleted messages. (*) From that message list, you can move them to a new destination. (**) I did that already, and it seems to be totally gone. I also searched my whole account with the senders info and the the subject line (I have both), but that didn't bring it up anywhere, either. Do I have to give it up as lost forever? -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:29:19 -0400, Jan thoughtfully wrote the following: Allie TB! tends to auto-select an appropriate font for message replies, Allie i.e., one that will support all characters generated in the reply Allie quotation etc. JR I'm sure you're right but I'm surprised I haven't seen TB! do this in JR all the time I have been using it. It depends on which font you normally use. I use Lucida Sans Typ which has a relatively limited character support. If someone were to write to me using say the Cyrillic (KOI8-R) charset (Russians typically use this font), and I hit reply, the editor appears using Courier New, instead of my font. Three fonts that I realize have excellent character support are Courier New, Andale Mono and Lucida Console. You will not see what I'm talking about if you use one of those fonts normally. Also, if you communicate only with English speakers that use plain ASCII characters or Latin-1 (ISO..) then you very likely will not experience the automatic font change that I'm referring to. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt48LVfJ62ArBxfiEQJtugCfeZqlvLmTuABw8f2j75UGjPgtWQYAn1gF NPGG+tXwOcT3KKX7jn5H2X9q =XhpB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: templates
Hello Allie; Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 12:37:22 PM, you kindly wrote: Tmtdc Don't dare? vbg They bark way more than they actually bite, Tmtdc believe me. Tmtdc These macros are just requests made by you to output portions of Tmtdc text or Tmtdc information that's in the message to which you're replying. It will Tmtdc also Tmtdc output system information for you such as the date and time (%Date, Tmtdc %Time) Tmtdc or other useful information. They were designed to prevent Tmtdc repetitive Tmtdc actions. I've modified a couple to no good effect. Are templates/macro's a sort of .bat file? Tmtdc Another related macro is %Text. This one will output the Tmtdc entire text of the message without quoting it. Will that mean plain rather than colored text with initials prefacing the text? Tmtdc The best way to understand these macros is to experiment with them. Tmtdc There's an article in the TB! FAQ which outlines the template structure Tmtdc http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. It will also give you Tmtdc an idea of what these templates and macros can do for you. Experiment away Tmtdc . :=) I read it this morning. I need to practice but I'm intellectually impaired by the onset of a cold. I'll lurk a bit till I get my wits back. Tmtdc Threading is simply the process of grouping together messages Tmtdc + - Your message Tmtdc | Tmtdc - - My message Tmtdc My message will appear chronologically after yours if you also Tmtdc thread in descending order based on received time. Tmtdc The only way to truly grasp this is to see threading in action. I suggest Tmtdc that you switch to receiving TBUDL messages individually and then switch Tmtdc to threading by references, with sorting by received time in descending Tmtdc order. I'd considered that but the traffic would defeat or at least impair all other purposes of The Bat as my all purpose email client.I don't anticipate heavy participation in this group beyond becoming able to operate basic functions of the client. I have neither purpose for nor interest in the more powerful and esoteric functions of The Bat. a How can I best take your comments out of my digest, quote them and then a reply still keeping the integrity of the threading? Tmtdc Hopefully, you'll realize after my explanation that this cannot be done. Tmtdc Since when you reply to the digest message, you're not replying directly Tmtdc to me. TB! will therefore not be able to generate that critical piece of Tmtdc header information: I accept this but don't "see" it. It links our messages by numerical identity. That part I understand. The actual mechanism in action I can't see. Nick A. helped me get formatted so I trust my setting are good ones. However this hasn't stopped a tendency for the message to scroll out of sight to my left when I move the cursor to the vertical scrolling controls. No horizontal scroll is showing. I'd like to lock the Edit Mail Message screen and prevent this. AH; 8- ) Store Window Position? Thanks Allie, ./michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Different fonts for different use
Hi Allie, On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 20:15:25 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Different fonts for different use': Allie I use Lucida Sans Typ [...] Well the situation you refer to certainly explains my situation: I (also) use Lucinda Sans Typ haven't corresponded w anyone I know of who uses the Cyrillic (K0I8-R) fonts. Allie Three fonts that I realize have excellent character support are Courier Allie New, Andale Mono and Lucida Console. You will not see what I'm talking Allie about if you use one of those fonts normally. Isn't Andale Mono one of those *extra* fonts? I've forgotten where to download these fonts from. Maybe you can refer me to that source while were are discussing fonts. Thanks, Allie. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.51/WinMe ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (04/18/2001 23:36) Special Issue (#2001-991)
Hello Marck; Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 12:37:22 PM, you kindly wrote: Tmtdc Replying to a digest doesn't actually help anyone at all. Tmtdc In fact, the truth is that digest mode is okay for lurking and Tmtdc reading Tmtdc up but useless for anyone intending to contribute or have Tmtdc conversations. MIME digests work well for this but they aren't Tmtdc available on our servers. Useless and no help or inconvenient for threading? I'd still like to ask questions but I devote my mail client to one forum or list. It would overwhelm the manner I use a mail client. ./michael -- Best regards, azraelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:43:02 -0400, Jan wrote these words of wisdom: JR Isn't Andale Mono one of those *extra* fonts? I've forgotten where to JR download these fonts from. Maybe you can refer me to that source while JR were are discussing fonts. You can get it here: http://home.bsu.edu/prn/monofont/index.html - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt5E0VfJ62ArBxfiEQIOWQCgi8LiM7Iko+6lGk6G9y5XBjLZUf8AoL0o c5gY5I8OcS5od3L7gjF39GNV =NTC3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (04/18/2001 23:36) Special Issue (#2001-991)
Hi azrael, @ 9:44:43 PM on 4/18/2001, azrael wrote: Marck Replying to a digest doesn't actually help anyone at all. In Marck fact, the truth is that digest mode is okay for lurking and Marck reading up but useless for anyone intending to contribute or Marck have conversations. MIME digests work well for this but they Marck aren't available on our servers. a Useless and no help or inconvenient for threading? I'd still like a to ask questions but I devote my mail client to one forum or list. a It would overwhelm the manner I use a mail client. Both, actually. It breaks the threading and it changes the subject to something like "Re: Digest (04/18/2001 23:36) Special Issue (#2001-991)" which means absolutely nothing to the reader. We have to open it and start reading to figure out if we want to bother reading it in the first place (see: Useless and of no help). -- Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8 [TB! 1.52 Beta/7, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (04/18/2001 23:36) Special Issue (#2001-991)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi azrael, On 19 April 2001 at 21:44:43 -0400 (which was 02:44 where I live) azrael wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: Tmtdc ... useless for anyone intending to contribute or have Tmtdc conversations. MIME digests work well for this but they aren't Tmtdc available on our servers. aUseless and no help or inconvenient for threading? Well - awkward at any rate. a I'd still like to ask questions That's okay. a but I devote my mail client to one forum or list. It would a overwhelm the manner I use a mail client. TB is very capable of handling this with elegance and panache. Create a folder for TBUDL. Create a filter to move all incoming messages relating to TBUDL to that folder and that will separate out any such messages. There are instructions on how to configure this filter in the list rules. In this way, the list messages are segregated from the general traffic coming through the inbox yet are in a format ready for you to easily reply to. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/8/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOt5JWDnkJKuSnc2gEQIRbACeM3e2U0rGmlUS8aNgJzLNcRLbpbsAoJTM UCedDUC8HWM3cVLdfb867xo1 =orWb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:35:06 -0400, azrael wrote these comments: a I've modified a couple to no good effect. Are templates/macro's a sort a of .bat file? In a sense, yes. You're really telling TB! through these templates and macros what to automatically do with the new, reply or forward message that you generate. aWill that mean plain rather than colored text with initials a prefacing the text? It means unquoted text. Your text above is quoted because each line is preceded by 'a '. OTOH, my text isn't quoted. The %Text macro will just output the original message body as is, without quoting it. a I accept this but don't "see" it. It links our messages by numerical a identity. That part I understand. The actual mechanism in action I a can't see. Say your message id is 'azrael123'. I reply to your message and you have threading by references enabled. TB! examines my message headers where it will see the following two lines: Message ID: allie567 In-Reply-To: azrael123 TB! will link our two messages together since your message ID is the ID of the message I'm replying to. Another message comes your way and this one has the following lines: Message ID: jasper890 In-Reply-To: azrael123 Here TB! again realises that the message is a direct reply to yours and links them together in the thread. The thread will look as below: + - Azrael | | -- Allie | | -- Jasper Say that yet another person writes and the headers contain: Message ID: Mutt4455 In-Reply-To: allie567 TB! will detect that this is a reply to my message since my message ID is the one stated in the headers as the message being replied to. The thread will now look like this. + - Arael | | -- Allie | | | -- Mutt -- Jasper Get the drift? :=) - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt5T3VfJ62ArBxfiEQLvWwCcDVDYvWf8e5liw1vRX7ZtT7u6K5oAoJaY 4ZFYgUERebdRjGX/R1qIhFf4 =06E7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: message vanished
Hello Susanne, Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 8:29:31 PM, you wrote: S Do I have to give it up as lost forever? Do you have 'View - Display - All Messages' set? -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
Hi Karin, On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:03:22 +0200GMT (19/04/2001, 08:03 +0800GMT), Karin Spaink wrote: KS Nick, we've seen plenty of jokes about TB 2.0 being able to make KS coffee. What do you mean, "jokes"? It is my foremost wish for v2. KS Actually, I relish the possiblity of it also being able to take KS care of my microwave ;-) Have you handed it in to the wishlist? I don't use microwaves as my mother told me there is a possibility they might cause cancer, so we still cook the old-fashioned way. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 4/18/2001 11:02:29 PM, on the subject "Different fonts for different use" A Curtis Martin said: ACM Isn't it that the font is different rather than the font being ACM just bigger or smaller. Yes, it looks like that is the case. ACM TB! tends to auto-select an appropriate font for message ACM replies, i.e., one that will support all characters generated ACM in the reply quotation etc. and it will also use a font that ACM supports the charset used by the sender. Your preferred font ACM seems to have limited character support so TB! tends to change ACM it to another when needed. Hmmm, I thought something like that could be the reason for those sudden changes. ACM You can override this by right clicking on the status bar, in ACM the editor, the area displaying the charset and changing the ACM charset manually. I know that, but it is a little dificult to jump every time to the editor preference, [if that is what you meant] when I don't like what I see. Dejan -- -- Message written at 4:32 AM Email Client The Bat 1.51 -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 4/19/2001 3:15:25 AM, on the subject "Different fonts for different use" A Curtis Martin said: ACM Three fonts that I realize have excellent character support are ACM Courier New, Andale Mono and Lucida Console. You will not see ACM what I'm talking about if you use one of those fonts normally. Where can I find Lucida Console and Lucida Sans Typ? I have Andale Mono, and I find it even uglier then Terminal!:) BTW, how do you implement those two fonts in TB? By changing font in the registry? But, in that way, the font is not changeable, since it does not appear in the TB's font list. Dejan -- -- Message written at 4:51 AM Email Client The Bat 1.51 -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 4/18/2001 10:54:28 PM, on the subject "Different fonts for different use" Jan Rifkinson said: Dejan I'm asking this because I have in TB some fonts that look Dejan great while I'm reading the post, but when I want to reply Dejan the look of the text is all messed up [the font is either Dejan bigger or smaller] and vice versa, the font looks good Dejan only in the Message Editor. JR I think you are reading an HTML msg not the text msg. The Bat! JR only uses mono-spaced fonts. That may account for the difference JR you are experiencing. No, no, I'm definitely _not_ reading a html message, because it's created or read in TB;) Dejan -- -- Message written at 4:22 AM Email Client The Bat 1.51 -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
Hello Marck, Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 8:57:59 PM, you wrote: MDP Use Alt-Drag to move folders alongside others or Ctrl-Alt-Drag to drop MDP one folder into another. Woah. It's obvious I still have got hundreds of things to learn about The Bat! The Alt-Drag or Ctrl-Alt-Drag are just fine for me. I'm not interested in sorting all simply in alphabetical order. But would you know *why* they chose to use the Alt and Ctrl-Alt combination to allow dragging folders ? Wouldn't it have been simpler to use _ordinary_ drag : just the left mouse click ? -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
OM Hello Marck, OM Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 8:57:59 PM, you wrote: MDP Use Alt-Drag to move folders alongside others or Ctrl-Alt-Drag to drop MDP one folder into another. OM Woah. It's obvious I still have got hundreds of things to learn about OM The Bat! The Alt-Drag or Ctrl-Alt-Drag are just fine for me. I'm not OM interested in sorting all simply in alphabetical order. If I were to to accidentally click, and then click again . . . and cause them to alphabetically sort- I may just cry. I have too many folders. OM But would you know *why* they chose to use the Alt and Ctrl-Alt OM combination to allow dragging folders ? Wouldn't it have been simpler OM to use _ordinary_ drag : just the left mouse click ? I don't know why -they- chose it, necessarily- but I personally prefer it this way. I like the fact that if I, say, stay up all night and have intaken much coffee . . . a bit shaky and delirious, and happened to click to select a folder and happened to mistakenly keep the mouse button compressed . . . well, I like to know that when I come to, I'll find all of my folders just as I left them. Rather, It is somewhat idiot-proof security- keep my folders from being moved around by mistake. (I have, in th epast with other clients, accidentally moved things and had quite a time finding and fixing my movements.) j. -- Created by The_Bat! Version: 1.52 Beta/7 in Windows 98, build -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
Hello j., Thursday, April 19, 2001, 6:28:40 AM, you wrote: jard I don't know why -they- chose it, necessarily- but I personally jard prefer it this way. I like the fact that if I, say, stay up all jard night and have intaken much coffee . . . a bit shaky and jard delirious, and happened to click to select a folder and happened jard to mistakenly keep the mouse button compressed . . . well, I like jard to know that when I come to, I'll find all of my folders just as jard I left them. Rather, It is somewhat idiot-proof security- jard keep my folders from being moved around by mistake. (I have, in jard th epast with other clients, accidentally moved things and had jard quite a time finding and fixing my movements.) That is a good motivation for the Alt combination keys :-) -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
Hi Sir, On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:01:38 +0200GMT (19/04/2001, 12:01 +0800GMT), Sir Jinx! wrote: SJ Where can I find Lucida Console and Lucida Sans Typ? I have Andale SJ Mono, and I find it even uglier then Terminal!:) LOL! I agree with you about Andale Mono, but many people here love it. I use Courier New, and I don't know where you can download the other two mentioned. SJ BTW, how do you implement those two fonts in TB? By changing font in SJ the registry? No. Just put them into the Windows\Fonts directory. Then, in TB's manin window, go to Options / Editor Prefs / Display / Font / Change. All monospaced fonts in your Windows\Fonts directory will be shown there and are for you to choose. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat and Imap4
Hello TBUDL, I have a lotus server. I want to know, can I work with messages kept on Lotus server through IMAP4? Can I subscribe and unsubscribe folders which exists on Lotus, like Outook express can? Help me please! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
