Re: Replies kept in same folder as received
Hello Thomas, In your Reply or New Message templates, add a macro: %Comment=%Folder This will write the folder name into the headers and you can filter on that. But you still need a filter for each folder, right? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Tony! On Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 2:50:10 AM you wrote: Thanks to BOTH you and Mark for your suggestions, sometimes its the simplest things, (runs and hides with head down) Tony, as a fellow user (I am *not* a moderator) I'd like to ask you for two things concerning future messages: 1. Please use a meaningful subject. 2. Please cut away excess quotes. Thank you! -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 He, who doth not look back, will lose his way. (Derek Leveret) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
Hello Simon, ... in this interesting thread about PGP and S/MIME standards,... Thread that I have almost missed because the subject still is It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm ;-) -- Best regards Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Dierk, 1. Please use a meaningful subject. Agree. See my [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Please cut away excess quotes. Bandwidth concerns? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
Simon Allie, If you want to talk about bandwidth...lets look at all the bandwidth in this discussion (the messages themselves) of pros and cons of 2 standards that I usually ignore to begin with...and many were signed as well! ;) Now THAT is some bandwidth... Don't get me wrong...I see the point of signing and certificates when dealing with sensitive data and important Emails, but here? I hardly see the point of the argument... Just my 2 cents worth. -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Miguel! On Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 10:34:51 AM you wrote: Bandwidth concerns? ;-) No, readability. I am on a DSL flat rate with 2 Mbit/s download. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Ernährung ist tödlich! Jeder, der sich lange genug ernährt, ist bislang gestorben. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP or S/MIME
Hello Scott! On Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 10:48:30 AM you wrote: Don't get me wrong...I see the point of signing and certificates when dealing with sensitive data and important Emails, but here? My own position is, we should all sign all our messages and even encrypt it. I am not the one to tell others what is important or not. BTW, if everybody encrypted posts, nobody could be prejudiced to be guilty of anything just because he encrypts (and I am not just thinking of dictatorial nations but specifically of current developments in Great Britain, Germany and the USA). That signing is a good thing is out of the question ... And why does this bandwidth argument often comes up to say This discussion should not be held? -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Respect Yourself. (Pops Staples) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Dierk, Bandwidth concerns? ;-) No, readability. I am on a DSL flat rate with 2 Mbit/s download. I know, I was just joking because of the other thread. I also hate having to scroll down to read messages. That is why in a threaded environment like this list I would prefer top posting, but that would take us again to one of those recursive and endless discussions. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
Hello Scott, Don't get me wrong...I see the point of signing and certificates when dealing with sensitive data and important Emails, but here? I hardly see the point of the argument... Agree. Just my 2 cents worth. +2 = 4 :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[SOT] The best filter for SPAM
Hello all, Like many people, I receive hundreds of e-mail daily with a good percentage of spam. Up to now I have been using a combination of TB filters plus, at server level with Mercury/32, RBLs, my own Killfile and local BL, Compliance Control (checking for messages without subject or date headers, etc.) plus Content Control (content testing rules giving a weight). But even with all of these I still got a number of false positives and undetected spam. A couple of weeks ago someone mentioned POPFile in this list and I decided to give it try. I installed it, trained it for a couple of days and it has been running for some 10 days with 99% accuracy, detecting spam (in different languages, BTW) that had gone undetected by the sum of the other schemes and with hardly any false positives. It's a beauty. http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Miguel! On Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 11:05:22 AM you wrote: I know, I was just joking because of the other thread. I also hate having to scroll down to read messages. That is why in a threaded environment like this list I would prefer top posting, but that would take us again to one of those recursive and endless discussions. Me not. But you know that I am an ardent fighter for in line posting ... -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Don't let a little dispute injure a friendship. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
Miguel, I use the Selective Download filter feature in TB and it works well. It's also quick and easy to further edit the 'strings' it classes as spam. Saying that it wouldn't harm if TB logged the from field in the account log for each message deleted off the server, so I know what got deleted instead of the number that was there and how many I actually downloaded. -- Charles Collinson Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Hello listmembers! First I would like to introduce myself briefly. My Name is Uwe Zimmermann, I come originally from Germany but chose to go to Sweden to become a PhD student in Stockholm, five years ago. Privately I have become involved in the software support of an image database program which I discovered (after long time searching). I have converted to Heat! only a few days ago and I am quite sure that I finally have found my future email client after about a year's trial-and-error. I was driven to look for a new email client by the introduction of Opera's new M2 mail engine which I find everything but useful. Originally I was using (and still am for my main email account) Netscape, but when I started as a freelancer in email support for a small company, I needed a program which could handle a) multiple accounts separately b) would offer backup features Opera has never (in spite of advertising) been able to import my main email account from Netscape, so it stayed where it was, but everything else I managed from Opera - until last week. Therefore I searched the Web for alternatives, I had already tested some of them like Eudora (at work), Pegasus, but this time I found PMMail and TheBat! After about one hour of testing everything was clear and here I am... I like about everything about the program and whenever somebody asks, I will recommend it. Now I come to my questions, I hope somebody has made it through the blurb above and is still reading this. In the support emails I often get attached plain-text documents to the email. These normally have the extension .log, but may also come as .txt. I wonder if there is any possibility to make TheBat! display these attachments - it's all plain ASCII text - much like it now displays attached image files in a tabbed separate window. If not, is there any possibility somewhere in TheBat! to set, which program is used to handle which type of attachment? On my system TheBat! does not open any external viewer when I try to double click on attached .log files, instead I first get the warning that these files can contain viruses (it's pure ASCII and a non-macro text editor is associated with the files in Windows) and when I insist on opening the file I get the error message that the application for these files was not found... Uwe. - TheBat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
Hello Charles, I use the Selective Download filter feature in TB and it works well. As no system is perfect, I can't (don't want) take the risk of deleting false positives that may be legitimate e-mail. I will always just send spam (possible spam) to an specific folder which, sooner or later, I will review for possible false positives. Anyway, what criteria would I use for deleting messages? Those messages flagged as spam by my own server? No, no matter how much I tweak them there are false positives every now and then and, anyhow, I've said that POFile beats them all. At least that is my experience. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Hallo Uwe, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:12:57 +0100GMT (15-12-02, 12:12 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: UZ In the support emails I often get attached plain-text documents to the UZ email. These normally have the extension .log, but may also come as UZ .txt. I wonder if there is any possibility to make TheBat! display UZ these attachments - it's all plain ASCII text - much like it now UZ displays attached image files in a tabbed separate window. I'm not aware of such a possibility. UZ If not, is there any possibility somewhere in TheBat! to set, UZ which program is used to handle which type of attachment? Not in TB. TB uses the file associations you've defined for Windows. In order to associate a file type, you try open a file in the explorer when there's no association, you get to choose a program and the possibility to use that program always for this type (check-box). After you've done that TB will use that program to open that file type. It might be possible that you need to close and restart TB before it figures that you've associated the file type. On my system *.log is associated with notepad and that's what TB uses. UZ On my system TheBat! does not open any external viewer when I try UZ to double click on attached .log files, instead I first get the UZ warning that these files can contain viruses You can disable this warning in: Options - Preferences - Warnings - Add *.LOG to 'Enable opening of these file without any alert' UZ (it's pure ASCII and a non-macro text editor is associated with the files in UZ Windows) and when I insist on opening the file I get the error message UZ that the application for these files was not found... That's the part I mentioned about Windows file associations. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Uwe Zimmermann [UZ] wrote:'
Welcome to the list. :)
UZ Now I come to my questions, I hope somebody has made it through
UZ the blurb above and is still reading this. In the support emails
UZ I often get attached plain-text documents to the email. These
UZ normally have the extension .log, but may also come as .txt. I
UZ wonder if there is any possibility to make TheBat! display these
UZ attachments - it's all plain ASCII text - much like it now
UZ displays attached image files in a tabbed separate window.
If the text file has a .txt extension then TB! will display it via
tabbed separate window unless the .txt file is very large. I don't
know the size limit. It just displayed a 100KB text file for me in
its own tab. But I had tested a 6.8MB text file the other day and it
didn't display it in its own tabbed window.
If the text file has other extensions then you'll have to open it
with the associated application by double clicking on the
attachment.
UZ If not, is there any possibility somewhere in TheBat! to set,
UZ which program is used to handle which type of attachment? On my
UZ system TheBat! does not open any external viewer when I try to
UZ double click on attached .log files, instead I first get the
UZ warning that these files can contain viruses (it's pure ASCII
UZ and a non-macro text editor is associated with the files in
UZ Windows) and when I insist on opening the file I get the error
UZ message that the application for these files was not found...
TB! uses the systems associated application. Therefore, if the log
file is not being opened, it's because there's something wrong with
.log file associations on your system. Do you have .log files
associated with your text editor?
Also for text file extensions, you can disable the antivirus popup
warning by going into Options/Preferences/Warnings. Add .log
extension to the list of extensions that are opened without warning.
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Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
Miguel, As no system is perfect, I can't (don't want) take the risk of deleting false positives that may be legitimate e-mail. Very true, thus this method has to be used carefully, etc. It's also an area where TB could improve, especially these days with spam been such an issue. More options and the ability to see false positives go through the system instead of the limited info currently provided. -- Charles Collinson Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
On Sunday, December 15, 2002, 5:41 AM, you wrote: MAU A couple of weeks ago someone mentioned POPFile in this list and I MAU decided to give it try. I installed it, trained it for a couple of days MAU and it has been running for some 10 days with 99% accuracy, detecting MAU spam (in different languages, BTW) that had gone undetected by the sum MAU of the other schemes and with hardly any false positives. It's a MAU beauty. MAUhttp://popfile.sourceforge.net/ I noticed the setup uses 127.0.0.1 as mail server. I already have my mail setup to use that port, because I run Mercury. Can I run both of these at the same time??? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Hello Uwe, Welcome :-) In the support emails I often get attached plain-text documents to the email. These normally have the extension .log, but may also come as .txt. I wonder if there is any possibility to make TheBat! display these attachments - it's all plain ASCII text - much like it now displays attached image files in a tabbed separate window. If not, is there any possibility somewhere in TheBat! to set, which program is used to handle which type of attachment? On my system TheBat! does not open any external viewer when I try to double click on attached .log files, instead I first get the warning that these files can contain viruses (it's pure ASCII and a non-macro text editor is associated with the files in Windows) and when I insist on opening the file I get the error message that the application for these files was not found... I do get a tabbed window (as you call it) for *.txt attachments but not for *.log. I don't think there is any way of telling TB to use a tabbed window for *.log attachments. If you don't want to get the warning for *.log, go to Options - Preferences - Warnings and include *.log in the Enable opening of these files without any alert window. In my system (Win2000) I have *.txt and *.log files associated with TexPad (my preferred text editor) and it opens just fine when I double click on a *.txt or *.log attachment. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
In reply to Paul's message '[SOT] The best filter for SPAM' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 06:45:54 -0500 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Paul, PC I noticed the setup uses 127.0.0.1 as mail server. I already have my PC mail setup to use that port, because I run Mercury. Can I run both PC of these at the same time??? just a guess, but you could potentially have PopFile, to, for example, listen on port 110, and have Mercury to listen on port 111 or something... -- dan. e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.danhirning.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Miguel, On 15-12-2002 12:47, you [M] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M I do get a tabbed window (as you call it) for *.txt attachments but M not for *.log. FYI: I also get a tab for *.lst files. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62 Beta/17 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
Hello Paul, I noticed the setup uses 127.0.0.1 as mail server. I already have my mail setup to use that port, because I run Mercury. Can I run both of these at the same time??? Yes, I started using POFile on my desktop but after evaluation I moved it to my server and is running next to Mercury and MailTraq (which I use as a mail to news gateway). All you have to do is configure POFile to use a different port for POP retrieval and, in TB, set your Account/Properties/Transport to use that port. I'm using 114, 110 is used by Mercury and 112 by MailTraq. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Hello Peter, FYI: I also get a tab for *.lst files. I didn't know. I guess I never got a *.lst attachment. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Hello Allie, Roelof, Miguel and Peter, thanks for your answers! UZ double click on attached .log files, instead I first get the UZ warning that these files can contain viruses (it's pure ASCII UZ and a non-macro text editor is associated with the files in UZ Windows) and when I insist on opening the file I get the error UZ message that the application for these files was not found... ACM TB! uses the systems associated application. Therefore, if the log ACM file is not being opened, it's because there's something wrong with ACM .log file associations on your system. Do you have .log files ACM associated with your text editor? LOG-files have always been associated with my text editor WinEDT. This works nicely in Windows Explorer, the LOG file shows the corresponding icon and if WinEDT is running, the file is opened within the running instance of the program, when WinEDT is not running, the program is launched and the LOG file displayed. However in TheBat! I get the Windows flag as icon for LOG files and the above mentioned error message persists. Thanks for showing me how to disable the warning, now it's only the error message which is left. Uwe. - TheBat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Dierk, Me not. But you know that I am an ardent fighter for in line posting Yes, I know. But if you like tea and I like coffee there is no reason in discussing which is better :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: question 2
In reply to Miguel's message 'question 2' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:20:52 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Victor, MAU Yes, I know. But if you like tea and I like coffee there is no MAU reason in discussing which is better :-) of course not because absolutely everybody knows coffee is the superior drink ;-) -- dan. e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.danhirning.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Uwe Zimmermann [UZ] wrote:'
UZ Thanks for showing me how to disable the warning, now it's only
UZ the error message which is left.
Hmmm. Interesting.
I have TextPad associated with .log files and don't get this error.
TB! doesn't really have any control over which application opens
attachment filetypes that aren't supported by it's internal viewer.
It usually just uses the system associated application.
I have WinEdt installed here and am trying to get it to associate it
with .log files. I can't seem to. Notepad opens the file instead,
even though I manually created the association in the Windows
filetypes.
I then switched the association back to textpad ... textpad opens
the file just fine. shrug
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Re: question 2
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:'
MAU Yes, I know. But if you like tea and I like coffee there is no
MAU reason in discussing which is better :-)
Actually, this isn't what happened in the thread. Did you read it?
:)
What was being discussed and which went a bit awry was not a matter
of liking coffee or tea.
The discussion was a valid one looking at valid issues. It just may
not be interesting to many. However, not pointless. Sometimes some
see uninteresting discussions as being pointless. :) I can't help
that.
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Re: question 2
Hello Daniel, In reply to Miguel's message 'question 2' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:20:52 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Victor, Check your reply template, I'm not Victor :-) of course not because absolutely everybody knows coffee is the superior drink ;-) Of course but, would you force a friend to drink coffee if he doesn't like it? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: question 2
In reply to Miguel's message 'question 2' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:35:49 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Miguel, Victor, MAU Check your reply template, I'm not Victor :-) mawh!! - after a good 5 minutes of staring at the reply template with me going 'WTF is going on here' i finally realised there is an address book entry with your email address, and victor's name... NO idea how that happened, but least it wasn't my templates ;) MAU Of course but, would you force a friend to drink coffee if he MAU doesn't like it? I wouldn't have a friend that didn't drink coffee ;-) -- dan. e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.danhirning.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Hello Allie, on Sonntag, 15. Dezember 2002 you wrote: ACM It usually just uses the system associated application. ACM I have WinEdt installed here and am trying to get it to associate it ACM with .log files. I can't seem to. Notepad opens the file instead, ACM even though I manually created the association in the Windows ACM filetypes. ACM I then switched the association back to textpad ... textpad opens ACM the file just fine. shrug OK, I managed (easily) to associate LOG files with both Windows Notepad and Wordpad, I have no idea why WinEdt doesn't work, but for these files I can live with Wordpad... It would be nice though, if there was a more flexible way to handle attached files in TheBat! 2.x Uwe. p.s.: as you can see above, I still have work to do with my templates ;-} -- TheBat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Uwe Zimmermann [UZ] wrote:'
UZ OK, I managed (easily) to associate LOG files with both Windows
UZ Notepad and Wordpad, I have no idea why WinEdt doesn't work, but
UZ for these files I can live with Wordpad...
UZ It would be nice though, if there was a more flexible way to
UZ handle attached files in TheBat! 2.x
How so? Do you mean TB! determining which file-types are opened by
which applications? If TB! did more than simply open attachments
then I'd agree. Applications like Opera can handle filetypes in
different ways, i.e., download them, handle them with a specific
plugin or just open them with the system associated application.
Because of this, it's best to have Opera handle filetypes.
With TB! it does seem unnecessary in the main.
If WinEdt's associations were working as they should, then you'd
have been a happy camper.
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Re: question 2
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:'
MAU Of course but, would you force a friend to drink coffee if he
MAU doesn't like it?
That would be unthinkable. :)
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Re: question 2
Hello Daniel, and Miguel, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 6:49:23 AM, you wrote: DH In reply to Miguel's message 'question 2' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:35:49 DH +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DH Miguel snip MAU Of course but, would you force a friend to drink coffee if he MAU doesn't like it? What friend worth his salt would go along and let you force him to drink anything? DH I wouldn't have a friend that didn't drink coffee ;-) Myself, I drink tea with some friends and coffee with others. :) It took me a long time to get used to in-line posting, and now I like it very much. However, I still top-post with some friends and relatives who enjoy the conversation more that way. Most of them are not yet convertible to glorious The Bat! May it live long and prosper! Likewise the helpful and entertaining Listers on tbudl and tbot, including the moderators. I expect Allie to tell us to move to tbot with this pretty soon. :) -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Hello Allie C Martin, on Sonntag, 15. Dezember 2002 you wrote: UZ It would be nice though, if there was a more flexible way to UZ handle attached files in TheBat! 2.x ACM How so? Do you mean TB! determining which file-types are opened by ACM which applications? If TB! did more than simply open attachments ACM then I'd agree. Applications like Opera can handle filetypes in ACM different ways, i.e., download them, handle them with a specific ACM plugin or just open them with the system associated application. ACM Because of this, it's best to have Opera handle filetypes. ACM With TB! it does seem unnecessary in the main. ACM If WinEdt's associations were working as they should, then you'd ACM have been a happy camper. I agree that in this case the problem is either WinEdt or Windows related, but what I meant what that it might be neat to have a table where one could tell TB! for certain MIME attachments to handle them in a certain way by default. For a program as configurable as TB! this would IMHO fit into the concept of the program. It also/alternatively would be nice to (optionally) have a tabbed page for the full header and/or message source. I know how to access these now, but again, I think this would make a nice addition to the program. Is there by any chance a possibility to switch the language of the predefined macros, such as %odate on the fly or on an account basis? Since I use the program for messages in at least three languages, this really would be nice Switching the spell checking with the %language macro is a very nice feature in this respect... Uwe. -- TheBat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Making PGP work
Dear Simon, Saturday, December 14, 2002, 9:16:42 AM, you wrote: SB On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:37:58 -0500 your time, you said: CGS If I do this I get to the point where the PGP log window pops up and CGS that is where the process stops. I am not sure why. Simon asks what CGS version of PGP I have which I think is 6.5. Is that something to do CGS with this? Any ideas? SB I have been trying everything to replicate this Clive. I am using Imad's SB build 6.58 build 9 beta 03 with TB! and can't get the import keys window SB *not* to show. I've changed some settings in PGP options that I thought may SB cause this but it doesn't make any difference, it still works! SB The only thing I can think of is you have selected TB!'s internal SB implementation of PGP rather than the PGP plugin under Tools / OpenPGP / SB Choose OpenPGP version. That would display only the log window. It is true that this option has been selected - I put this in inverted commas because I think it is a default setting. I can't deselect it either as the other options are grayed out and the toggle switch won't switch off. I am not sure where we go from here?? -- Regards, Clive __ Clive Scott PO Box 3250 St John's Antigua West Indies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mary Bull [MB] wrote:'
MB I expect Allie to tell us to move to tbot with this pretty soon. :)
Perhaps my friends here prefer discussing this here, rather than on
TBOT, so I wouldn't be a good friend in insisting that they take the
discussion to TBOT (drink coffee and not tea) ;)
I expect this thread to quickly die a natural death anyway so I
doubt that it'd be necessary to make any requests. :)
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Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
In reply to Miguel's message '[SOT] The best filter for SPAM' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:41:16 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Miguel, (got ya name right this time ;-) MAU A couple of weeks ago someone mentioned POPFile in this list and I MAU decided to give it try. I installed it, trained it for a couple of MAU days and it has been running for some 10 days with 99% accuracy, MAU detecting spam (in different languages, BTW) that had gone MAU undetected by the sum of the other schemes and with hardly any MAU false positives. It's a beauty. Since your original post, I also have finally given PopFile a go - I have been meaning to for quite sometime, and thought today was too hot outside to do much else, so it seemed the perfect day to finally try it out. I must say, I too am impressed with the accuracy i seem to be achieving even after only a few hours of training, and 100 odd emails. Of course, as you would expect, not one email I have received since running PopFile has been spam... But I do wonder if I have chosen the most appropriate way to set up my buckets. As the majority of my mail is sorted based on the sender, I really only have two real buckets, 'legit_email' and 'spam'. It seemed to me that only two buckets might not provide enough statistical data, so I also decided to create a bucket for each mailing list. bringing my total to 5 buckets. It seems rather stupid to make a bucket for each sender, as the bat filters take care of that, and work/personal is already taken care of just based on the sender as well. So my real question, after all this, is what have you found to be the most appropriate bucket setup? Should I artificially create more buckets, or leave it at the minimum.. or am i missing the point entirely? or. Also, am I just lucky, or over the last, say, month or so, has spam really slowed down. The last spam i received through my main account must have been early last week, and I haven't received any spam in either of my hotmail accounts for weeks either... Just lucky, or are other people noticing a similar occurrence... cheers! -- dan. e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.danhirning.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Making PGP work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Clive, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:59:00 -0500 your time, you said: SB The only thing I can think of is you have selected TB!'s internal SB implementation of PGP rather than the PGP plugin under Tools / OpenPGP SB / Choose OpenPGP version. That would display only the log window. CGS It is true that this option has been selected - I put this in CGS inverted commas because I think it is a default setting. I can't CGS deselect it either as the other options are grayed out and the toggle CGS switch won't switch off. I am not sure where we go from here?? Have you downloaded the PGP dlls from RITLABS? It seems to be that the plugins aren't installed. If, you haven't, visit here and grab them and install them: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #3036. Was Dry Leo Squirm ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPfyR0stub/5cfolmEQLsOACfXuCylCQBDDrTRU2kdHD5prhHtJAAniAt 2KAPN+5uo+ErWY9nThehdllq =2Pzf -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Uwe Zimmermann [UZ] wrote:'
UZ I agree that in this case the problem is either WinEdt or
UZ Windows related, but what I meant what that it might be neat to
UZ have a table where one could tell TB! for certain MIME
UZ attachments to handle them in a certain way by default. For a
UZ program as configurable as TB! this would IMHO fit into the
UZ concept of the program.
I agree here with some file types. .html/.htm is one of them. There
are those who'd prefer opening html attachments with a browser other
than the default. This has been a common query.
UZ It also/alternatively would be nice to (optionally) have a
UZ tabbed page for the full header and/or message source. I know
UZ how to access these now, but again, I think this would make a
UZ nice addition to the program.
I don't think so but that's just me. :) I'd prefer just buttons to
easily access these (currently they're only shortcuts). They could
then be displayed in tabs though the independent window approach for
the source view makes one more flexible.
Have you looked at the tbudlinfo page? The URL is in the list footer
for all the list messages. You could submit a feature request.
UZ Is there by any chance a possibility to switch the language of
UZ the predefined macros, such as %odate on the fly or on an
UZ account basis?
I don't think so. Complex macros have been created to do this
translation. I thought they would be in the macro repository but
they aren't. Someone on the list should have an example. Hopefully
one will chip in. If not, you could post this to TBTECH where regex
macros are often discussed.
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Re: question 2
Hello Allie, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 8:23:44 AM, you wrote: MB I expect Allie to tell us to move to tbot with this pretty soon. :) ACM Perhaps my friends here prefer discussing this here, rather than on ACM TBOT, so I wouldn't be a good friend in insisting that they take the ACM discussion to TBOT (drink coffee and not tea) ;) And a good friend you always are! Didn't mean to suggest that you *should* tell us we were off topic--just expressing a little feminine anxiety. :) And actually, now that I think of it, it's not OT--it's about tbudl's protocols--just wandering a little from the original subject of the thread. ACM I expect this thread to quickly die a natural death anyway so I ACM doubt that it'd be necessary to make any requests. :) Again, Allie, my apologies. I didn't mean to tell you what to do. :) -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Allie, I expect this thread to quickly die a natural death anyway... If not, I will probably die from drinking tea. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Allie, Actually, this isn't what happened in the thread. Did you read it? No, not really. :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mary Bull [MB] wrote:'
MB Again, Allie, my apologies. I didn't mean to tell you what to
MB do. :)
There's absolutely no need for an apology, Mary. :)
I at no time felt you were asking/suggesting what I should do. :)
BTW, you or anyone else can do so if you like.
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Re: question 2
Hello Mary, Myself, I drink tea with some friends and coffee with others. Yeah, but that is only because you are reasonable :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Hello Allie C Martin, on 2002-12-15 at 15:40 CET you wrote: UZ It also/alternatively would be nice to (optionally) have a UZ tabbed page for the full header and/or message source. I know UZ how to access these now, but again, I think this would make a UZ nice addition to the program. ACM I don't think so but that's just me. :) I'd prefer just buttons to ACM easily access these (currently they're only shortcuts). They could ACM then be displayed in tabs though the independent window approach for ACM the source view makes one more flexible. ACM Have you looked at the tbudlinfo page? The URL is in the list footer ACM for all the list messages. You could submit a feature request. Yes I have, but as a newbie to TB! I first want to make sure that a feature is not already there and I'm just too damn stupid to find it. And then I personally prefer to hear others' ideas/considerations before going to ask for new features. That's the way things are handled for ThumbsPlus, where suggestions are directly placed into an open discussion group UZ Is there by any chance a possibility to switch the language of UZ the predefined macros, such as %odate on the fly or on an UZ account basis? ACM I don't think so. Complex macros have been created to do this ACM translation. I thought they would be in the macro repository but ACM they aren't. Someone on the list should have an example. Hopefully ACM one will chip in. If not, you could post this to TBTECH where regex ACM macros are often discussed. I found a way around it: the ISO date should do for all my purposes ;-} However, the fact that the output of the %odate macro can be influenced by a command string is not directly described in the help nor in the FAQs Uwe. -- TheBat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Allie, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 8:48:59 AM, you wrote: MB Again, Allie, my apologies. I didn't mean to tell you what to MB do. :) ACM There's absolutely no need for an apology, Mary. :) ACM I at no time felt you were asking/suggesting what I should do. :) I am so glad. Being a relatively new lister, almost a newbie, I was concerned about how my words were looking on-screen, without my face to accompany them. :) ACM BTW, you or anyone else can do so if you like. Angelic Allie. Among the best of moderators, physicians, and men! -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Miguel, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 8:50:06 AM, you wrote: Myself, I drink tea with some friends and coffee with others. MAU Yeah, but that is only because you are reasonable :-) What a nice thing to say! And after the last Post I made to you on this list, when after you gave me such excellent help about fonts, I decided to get playful and accuse you of being a tease! Thanks, Miguel. I make excellent coffee, BTW. -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Uwe Zimmermann [UZ] wrote:'
UZ Yes I have, but as a newbie to TB! I first want to make sure
UZ that a feature is not already there and I'm just too damn stupid
UZ to find it.
The feature request site is actually pretty interesting. It lists
all the requests that have been made. It's actually the same site
that you submit bug reports. You also have to subscribe to it to get
posting privileges.
When you log-on, just select 'The Bat Wishes' from the switch list in
the right upper corner of the page.
UZ And then I personally prefer to hear others'
UZ ideas/considerations before going to ask for new features.
Yes. We do this here as well, so making your suggestion to the list
was welcome. The developers don't read this discussion list much, if
at all, so I was pointing you to where your suggestion would be read
by them, as well as where you can browse other suggestions made. :)
UZ I found a way around it: the ISO date should do for all my
UZ purposes ;-}
UZ However, the fact that the output of the %odate macro can be
UZ influenced by a command string is not directly described in the
UZ help nor in the FAQs
There's a lot about this program that isn't directly documented.
Using this list is therefore a great resource.
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Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
ON Sunday, December 15, 2002, 12:53:54 PM, you wrote: PF FYI: I also get a tab for *.lst files. Hi Peter, What do application do you have associated in Windows with LST files? Whould that be notepad? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The main problem with keeping your eye on the ball is you have to take your eye off your opponent. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused byZoneAlarm)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Richard, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 07:53:44 + your time, you said: RW After Thomas's excellent mail I wouldn't have thought you *had* much of RW a defence :-) V - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #2515. Qua World Myers Is ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPfym48tub/5cfolmEQIHJgCaAgL8a8e1QM8VVLOkCPluL8OffDYAn3km jwVQbSr2XxQLfMtoohi95ST6 =2Okf -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
SOT: From ZAP to KERIO, another minor issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I recently went from Zone Alarm Pro to Kerio for my firewall needs and Kerio is a superior product without a question. There is just one tiny new irritant that's really beginning to urk me out. Every time I go to sleep leaving the network running (2 PCs) my notebook (connects to the desktop for access) gets disconnected from the Internet. This has happened every night but during the day while I am on I can not seem to make it happen. It seems to happen when I leave my notebook unattended at night. Anyone else having or had this issue with the Kerio firewall? I am really trying to fix it. Can someone please help me? Thank you :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfyrYF3LB35+TCg0EQK4uQCgo1YJGaLBlykYzuuvZ4gOi5E3zucAn1Bf +XqmFOEPpi/5RpvNnaUnYOS7 =2ceI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
Hello Daniel, snipped a bit So my real question, after all this, is what have you found to be the most appropriate bucket setup? Should I artificially create more buckets, or leave it at the minimum.. or am i missing the point entirely? or. I don't really know what *is* better, but I'll tell you what I did. For some three days I had 4 buckets and the overall accuracy didn't go much higher than 80%. Then I thought that the more buckets the longer the training period would probably need to be and, what the heck!, I'm only really interested in classifying spam from no-spam. So, as actually two of the buckets were sub-sets of a third one, I deleted the to sub-set ones and reset statistics and, after one more day, accuracy was over 90%. Aside of that I see no sense in using a Bayesian text classifier (that is what POFile actually is) to tell me if a message is coming from John Doe or from TBUDL list, both are legitimate mail and that kind of sorting is better and more easily done by TB's *Sorting* Office. Also, am I just lucky, or over the last, say, month or so, has spam really slowed down. The last spam i received through my main account must have been early last week, and I haven't received any spam in either of my hotmail accounts for weeks either... Just lucky, or are other people noticing a similar occurrence... I wouldn't know. I get spam everyday, specially in two of my accounts, and even just one spam message seems too much for me :-( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachement showing in a TAB?
Hi Bat Users, In the thread Newbie Q: text attachment visibility there is a discussion about TXT attachements showing. Well they only do on my copy of TB! for TXT files AFTER I have send or recieved them, not while editing Files with the ext LOG or LST don't show a tabbed view. For all files I don't have the Notepad Icon but just the plain Windows logo on a sheet of paper. I do show the icons for Excel, Word or HTML attachements. At the risk of upsetting the Moderator I have attached minimal files with the discussed attachement so everyone can see if it works for them. Do you have to set an option before this tabbed display starts happening? For your information TXT, LOG and LST files are associated to Notebook on my PC -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Universal Laws of Golf: Golf carts always run out of juice at the farthest point from the clubhouse. Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 TXT LST_Test.lst Description: Binary data LOG_Test.log Description: Binary data Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question 2
Hello Mary, I make excellent coffee, BTW. I wish you could ZIP a cup and send as an attachment so I could *sip* it. :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused byZoneAlarm)
Hello Simon, Please see below quoted text. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Richard, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 07:53:44 + your time, you said: RW After Thomas's excellent mail I wouldn't have thought you *had* much of RW a defence :-) V - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #2515. Qua World Myers Is ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPfym48tub/5cfolmEQIHJgCaAgL8a8e1QM8VVLOkCPluL8OffDYAn3km jwVQbSr2XxQLfMtoohi95ST6 =2Okf -END PGP SIGNATURE- If I quote your full message is just to show that, as I have just noticed, it looks like S/MIME signed messages do not include the list trailer/disclaimer: Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html I have reviewed other S/MIME signed messages and no, no trailer. I thought it could be a display problem in TB but looking at the source of the messages shows the trailer isn't there. A list server problem? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: From ZAP to KERIO, another minor issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Victor Gonzalez [VG] wrote:'
VG There is just one tiny new irritant that's really beginning to
VG urk me out. Every time I go to sleep leaving the network running
VG (2 PCs) my notebook (connects to the desktop for access) gets
VG disconnected from the Internet.
VG Anyone else having or had this issue with the Kerio firewall? I
VG am really trying to fix it. Can someone please help me?
This is an off-topic request. Some topics will naturally drift
off-topic but we discourage new off-topic requests, especially one
as involved as this.
Would you post this one to TBOT. It's the off-topic discussion list
for TB List members.
You can subscribe to it by sending a message here:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused byZoneAlarm)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Miguel, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:36:59 +0100 your time, you said: MAU If I quote your full message is just to show that, as I have just MAU noticed, it looks like S/MIME signed messages do not include the list MAU trailer/disclaimer snip MAU I have reviewed other S/MIME signed messages and no, no trailer. I MAU thought it could be a display problem in TB but looking at the source MAU of the messages shows the trailer isn't there. A list server problem? Well I never noticed that. Nicely spotted Miguel :) Seems to be some kind of hiccup with the list server doesn't there. How peculiar! - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #821. Mira Qed Owly Russ ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPfyxjctub/5cfolmEQJS7wCg5t/gzL4ShYzqfFMqiU3KrHb+LZcAoKhs 35cTRIj0z8BCAtt5N4AAg68q =fJ+0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Replies kept in same folder as received
Hello Miguel, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:08:40 +0100 GMT (15/12/02, 16:08 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: This will write the folder name into the headers and you can filter on that. But you still need a filter for each folder, right? Yes. It is nothing but a work-around. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. INFLATION: Cutting money in half without damaging the paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachement showing in a TAB?
Hello Gerard, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:11:42 +0100 GMT (15/12/02, 23:11 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: Files with the ext LOG or LST don't show a tabbed view. I conform this. I didn't have associations for .log and .lst files, and created one for .log files (Notepad). I still don't seem to get a tab for the file. For all files I don't have the Notepad Icon but just the plain Windows logo on a sheet of paper. I do show the icons for Excel, Word or HTML attachements. Confirmed. But TB shows only the Windows icon for PowerPoint presentations, whereas .ppt files are definitely associated with PowerPoint on my PC. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Work is the curse of the drinking class. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SOT: From ZAP to KERIO, another minor issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, VG There is just one tiny new irritant that's really beginning to VG urk me out. Every time I go to sleep leaving the network running VG (2 PCs) my notebook (connects to the desktop for access) gets VG disconnected from the Internet. ACM VG Anyone else having or had this issue with the Kerio firewall? I VG am really trying to fix it. Can someone please help me? ACM This is an off-topic request. Some topics will naturally drift ACM off-topic but we discourage new off-topic requests, especially one ACM as involved as this. I apologize but asked, because when I had the freezing issues Kerio was so highly recommended. I thought if so many Bat! users we're using Kerio then maybe someone has had this problem before. Maybe also someone had an idea. ACM Would you post this one to TBOT. It's the off-topic discussion list ACM for TB List members. Will do. I've been meaning to get to it. Thanks Allie :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfy2rF3LB35+TCg0EQL6agCg+lihj7GqIHOisRRps5fqSyJR2cwAoL95 i4GhPbHa1df4Kj5WWcDlPffy =4aZp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused byZoneAlarm)
Hello Simon, Well I never noticed that. Nicely spotted Miguel :) Well, I was really going to jump on you ;-) for sending an 8 KB message to just say V and while looking at the source is when I noticed :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BCC doesn't work, How to filter bounces clear the to field
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I tried several times to test the mass mailing feature of the bat. I did as mentioned in the help files and put an address in the to: field as not to reveal others addresses but no one in the BCC field gets a message... How would you filter bounced messages? I expect to get all sorts of bounces soon but would like to never see one of them. I remember a while back spamkiller could do this. What do all bounces have in common that would not interfere will my regular mail? Also, I've tested TB! mailing a lot and have filled up where the To: field is with all sorts of addresses. How do I clear it? Can I cycle through the addresses too? Thank you all for your time :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfy5cF3LB35+TCg0EQJuNwCfaOUr3sJx5OnL/frGatqanmJgNGYAn3/g Cq1F4qag1dqzt6i9FNZJ3mC4 =ThqN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery (WAS: question 2)
Hello Mary, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 7:04:39 AM, you wrote: MB I was concerned about how my words were looking on-screen, without MB my face to accompany them. :) You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-) -- Regards, Paddy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: From ZAP to KERIO, another minor issue
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Victor Gonzalez [VG] wrote:'
VG I apologize but asked, because when I had the freezing issues
VG Kerio was so highly recommended. I thought if so many Bat! users
VG we're using Kerio then maybe someone has had this problem
VG before. Maybe also someone had an idea.
I find it difficult to come up with an example of someone whose very
helpful and knowledgeable on this list and who isn't subscribed to
TBOT. :)
It's unlikely that you'll get a lesser response on TBOT. I highly
recommend it.
--
-=] Allie C Martin [=- {List Moderator}
MUA: TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition ___ OS: WinXP Pro (SP1)
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
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Re: Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery (WAS: question 2)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Paddy L [PL] wrote:'
PL You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-)
Just submit the picture to Marck Pearlstone. Preferably a picture
that's 120x140 pixels. If you can't adjust the image to the required
size Marck will do it for you.
- --
-=] Allie C Martin [=- {List Moderator}
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Re: SOT: From ZAP to KERIO, another minor issue
Hello Allie, I find it difficult to come up with an example of someone whose very helpful and knowledgeable on this list and who isn't subscribed to TBOT. :) Ha! I caught you! So you don't think I'm helpful and knowledgeable. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BCC doesn't work, How to filter bounces clear the to field
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Victor Gonzalez [VG] wrote:'
VG I tried several times to test the mass mailing feature of the
VG bat. I did as mentioned in the help files and put an address in
VG the to: field as not to reveal others addresses but no one in
VG the BCC field gets a message...
For mass mailing, you need to create your message as a quick
template and in the quick template configuration, enable 'Use for
new messages/mass mailing'.
You then go in the address book, select the addresse/s or address
book group/s, go to File/Use Mass Mailing with template. Select from
the drop down list which template to use.
An individual message for each selected address or member of
selected address book group/s will be created and sent.
VG How would you filter bounced messages? I expect to get all sorts
VG of bounces soon but would like to never see one of them. I
VG remember a while back spamkiller could do this. What do all
VG bounces have in common that would not interfere will my regular
VG mail?
I'm not sure, but I'd examine the headers for something unique. I'd
have to examine a bounced message but I don't have any at present.
The topic is usually distinct, like Message send failure You could
filter on that.
VG Also, I've tested TB! mailing a lot and have filled up where the
VG To: field is with all sorts of addresses. How do I clear it?
I assume that you're referring to the To: drop down history list?
If so, use the up and down arrows to navigate through the list and
the delete key to delete entries. There's no option to clear it as
a single command.
VG Can I cycle through the addresses too?
Yes, but only through the auto-complete option.
If you type a string in the To: field, you can cycle through the
matching addresses in the To: history list using CTRL+ and
CTRL-.
--
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MUA: TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition ___ OS: WinXP Pro (SP1)
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
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Re: S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused byZoneAlarm)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Miguel, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 18:09:41 +0100 your time, you said: MAU Hello Simon, Well I never noticed that. Nicely spotted Miguel :) MAU Well, I was really going to jump on you ;-) for sending an 8 KB message MAU to just say V and while looking at the source is when I noticed :) ;-) Good job you didn't then :) But then again, we could go sorting through the archives and all start deciding the value of everyone else's messages, even if we haven't contributed to the threads...yes, every message from now on must be relevant to everyone or we'll ... we'll.. umm, do something. And we could count all the messages in the archives where list members have appeared from nowhere to jump into threads they hadn't participated in just so that they could revel in being able to make a snitchy little remark when the thread had obviously ended, and we could add up the wasted bandwidth of all those messages and compare... yes, that would be interesting. Yes, what a good idea...not. g By the way, I am very sorry to every in advance for sending this message with S/MIME. - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #1232. Lars Qed I My Row Us ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPfzBistub/5cfolmEQIGZgCgtkU5+Xwp6IoAnHhPHallO7tzpaIAoK+L SHPnKDWCMxCJXrnmcbvr0jyZ =ubR+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: SOT: From ZAP to KERIO, another minor issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:'
MAU Ha! I caught you! So you don't think I'm helpful and knowledgeable.
MAU ;-)
LOL!!! OK, you did catch me. ;)
- --
-=] Allie C Martin [=- {List Moderator}
MUA: TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition ___ OS: WinXP Pro (SP1)
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Re: Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery (WAS: question 2)
Hello Paddy, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 11:36:33 AM, you wrote: MB I was concerned about how my words were looking on-screen, without MB my face to accompany them. :) PL You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-) No way. It is 75 years old, Irish, broad, and lately much fallen from its original high Celtic cheekbones. No one would ever Post or write to me again after seeing it. The original appearance of a witch in blue woad mode. :) Still, with a broom to go with my flapping BAT ... I'll think about it. Ask me again after Christmas. :) -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replies kept in same folder as received
* M. Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After incoming mail is filtered it is moved. Let's say from Inbox to MyTopicFolder. Now I reply to a message in MyTopicFolder. The reply should be stored in MyTopicFolder, not in Sent Mail. How do I do that (for the entire account, not just one folder)? please read http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/pipermail/tbtech/2002-August/03.html I'd say that what you want here cannot be done with The Bat! (today). -- Best regards, Carsten Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery (WAS: question 2)
Hello Allie, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 11:43:13 AM, you wrote: PL You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-) ACM Just submit the picture to Marck Pearlstone. Preferably a picture ACM that's 120x140 pixels. If you can't adjust the image to the required ACM size Marck will do it for you. Oh, my! What I started!! My very own thread on tbudl. Enough to warm the cockles of an old Ham's heart. I'll think about it after Christmas. How about one of me at age two? From which stage of childhood I have barely emerged. :) I have enjoyed seeing the pictures of all of you that have them in the Rogue's Gallery. A handsome bunch and worthy of TB! and tbudl. :) -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery
Hello Mary, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:02:08 -0600 GMT (16/12/02, 01:02 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: PL You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-) No way. It is 75 years old, Irish, broad, and lately much fallen from its original high Celtic cheekbones. So? I don't see the problem. It's *you*. No one would ever Post or write to me again after seeing it. I sincerely doubt that. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused byZoneAlarm)
Hello Simon, But then again, we could go sorting through the archives ... ... ... ... yes, that would be interesting. Yes, what a good idea...not. g No, I don't think so. 'Cause you'd find out that I jump into some threads just because I like to pester everyone every now and then. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery
Hello Thomas, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 12:13:56 PM, you wrote: snip PL You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-) No way. It is 75 years old ... TF So? I don't see the problem. It's *you*. That might be the problem, once everyone saw it. :) No one would ever Post or write to me again after seeing it. TF I sincerely doubt that. ;-) Thank you, Thomas. :) -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery (WAS: question 2)
Hello Mary, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:11:08 -0600 GMT (16/12/02, 01:11 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: PL You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-) How about one of me at age two? Not interested. We want to see the real Mary. The current one, the one that has a lot of experience in life and is now honouring us with her presence on the TB lists. ;-) I have enjoyed seeing the pictures of all of you that have them in the Rogue's Gallery. A handsome bunch and worthy of TB! and tbudl. :) Thanks. (Oops, did mean me too?) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Vacuum: A large, empty space where the pope lives. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery
Hello Mary, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:23:29 -0600 GMT (16/12/02, 01:23 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: PL You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-) No way. It is 75 years old ... TF So? I don't see the problem. It's *you*. That might be the problem, once everyone saw it. :) What is the problem with age in the West? Over here, the older you are, the more respect you get. Age is an honour, not a problem. There is no wisdom without age... oh, I could go on for hours. ;-) I also have the greatest respect for silver surfers. My father (since passed away) started using computers when he was in his sixties. Once he got the grips of it, he started to send me emails every day... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mary's Face, Rogue's Gallery (WAS: question 2)
Hello Thomas, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 12:26:51 PM, you wrote: PL You could put your face in the Rogue's Gallery. ;-) How about one of me at age two? TF Not interested. We want to see the real Mary. The current one, the TF one that has a lot of experience in life and is now honouring us with TF her presence on the TB lists. ;-) Okay. When I dig one out and scan it in, it will be the latest. What you see is what you get. Don't say you weren't warned! I have enjoyed seeing the pictures of all of you that have them in the Rogue's Gallery. A handsome bunch and worthy of TB! and tbudl. :) TF Thanks. (Oops, did mean me too?) Most certainly. :) -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachement showing in a TAB?
Hi Gerard, On Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 17:11:42 [GMT +0100], you wrote: G Files with the ext LOG or LST don't show a tabbed view. That's because of the content type of these attachments. Hav a look at the source of your message and you will see that TB! sends the .txt file as 'Content-Type: text/plain; name=TXT_Test.txt' but the other two files as 'Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=LST_Test.lst'. TB! doesn't use Windows' file associations to determine the type of a file, it relies on the content-type of the attachment. That's why it refuses to display it, although -- considering the true content of the files -- it easily could. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I Want to Go Back to Version 1.61
For me, there are too many bugs in Version 1.62. I have zapped the Install Program for Version 1.61. Has anybody got a link for the 1.61 Version? Paul Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachement showing in a TAB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Gerard, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:11:42 +0100 your time, you said: Aha, Gerard had attachments and no banner! This seems to be the very same thing that Miguel so cunningly spotted ;). So perhaps any message with an attachment sneaks into the list without being 'bannered'. - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #1776. Arm Qed I Owly Ussr ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPfzbrMtub/5cfolmEQIUDQCg9UXCzY9x6mVhTA2qIengE7ifV4UAoLOv 5y03JHubsVzFstM1YaUmtKOT =cMaw -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Leave on server woes.
If I set The Bat to leave files on the server, it will continue to download *all* the files left on the server over and over. It doesn't take long to end up with a gazillion dupes. Anybody know a cure? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME on ML's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @15-Dec-2002, 17:36 +0100 (16:36 UK time) Miguel A. Urech [MAU] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MAU Please see below quoted text. ... snip MAU If I quote your full message is just to show that, as I have MAU just noticed, it looks like S/MIME signed messages do not MAU include the list trailer/disclaimer: Correct. That's about MIME (not S/MIME) and the list server's inability to do anything with the footer but plonk it at the very end of the entire message without any regard to or sympathy for the MIME envelope. In English? Any attachments will obliterate the footer, which appears after them in the message and render it un-viewable. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9/NssOeQkq5KdzaARAqNbAJ4trureh59jB2BCQjVse0UquVWNgwCffvYw 5fyOVtiVRKlihxFDWbsCyx8= =rOAS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Resizeable Quick Templates Window.
Hey Mark, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62 Christmas Edition) Educational' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 5:00:33 AM. MRH I have always found the Quick Templates window (SHIFT-CTRL-Q) to MRH be a bit too small for my liking. MRH All I'd like to do is to be able to resize the master window to a MRH size of my liking. I would like to see that to. Also, it would be nice to have the normal editor features... Like double click a word to highlight it, or all the other cool stuff you can do with the standard TB editor. -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave on server woes.
Hey Craftsman, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 2:53:04 PM. C If I set The Bat to leave files on the server, it will continue to C download *all* the files left on the server over and over. It C doesn't take long to end up with a gazillion dupes. C Anybody know a cure? Well, you can kill all the dupes with Folder \ Kill Dupes I don't recall seeing the multiple DL problem though. -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) A television may insult your intelligence but nothing rubs it in like a computer. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie Q: text attachment visibility
Gerard, On 15-12-2002 16:17, you [G] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: G ON Sunday, December 15, 2002, 12:53:54 PM, you wrote: PF FYI: I also get a tab for *.lst files. G What do application do you have associated in Windows with LST files? G Whould that be notepad? Actually, it not associated with anything (generic icon). *.lst files are used for setup information, accompanying a setup.exe and *.cab files. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62 Beta/17 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I Want to Go Back to Version 1.61
Hello Paul, Has anybody got a link for the 1.61 Version? I have sent you details for my FTP site by private mail. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave on server woes.
Hello Craftsman, On Sunday, December 15, 2002, 14:53:04 -0500 GMT (which was 20:53 local time), Craftsman wrote: C If I set The Bat to leave files on the server, it will continue to C download *all* the files left on the server over and over. It doesn't C take long to end up with a gazillion dupes. C Anybody know a cure? I have set the Bat! to leave messages on server for two days just in case. I never experienced your problem.. -- Cheers, Andre Love is the feeling that you feel when you feel the feeling that you never felt before. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave on server woes.
Hello Andre Wichartz, on 2002-12-15 at 21:31 CET you wrote: AW Hello Craftsman, AW On Sunday, December 15, 2002, 14:53:04 -0500 GMT (which was 20:53 AW local time), Craftsman wrote: C If I set The Bat to leave files on the server, it will continue to C download *all* the files left on the server over and over. It doesn't C take long to end up with a gazillion dupes. C Anybody know a cure? AW I have set the Bat! to leave messages on server for two days just in AW case. I never experienced your problem.. Neither do I. I'm using 3 different POP3 mail servers, all are configured to leave the messages on the server for now. Everything behaves well, no duplicates and yes, the messages are still on the server Uwe. -- TheBat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
On Sunday, December 15, 2002, 6:51 AM, you wrote: DH Paul, PC I noticed the setup uses 127.0.0.1 as mail server. I already have my PC mail setup to use that port, because I run Mercury. Can I run both PC of these at the same time??? DH just a guess, but you could potentially have PopFile, to, for example, DH listen on port 110, and have Mercury to listen on port 111 or DH something... how about I leave mercury alone, change popfile to listen on 111 and change TB to look for 111... I'll try that, thanks! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM
On Sunday, December 15, 2002, 6:56 AM, you wrote: I noticed the setup uses 127.0.0.1 as mail server. I already have my mail setup to use that port, because I run Mercury. Can I run both of these at the same time??? MAU Yes, I started using POFile on my desktop but after evaluation I moved MAU it to my server and is running next to Mercury and MailTraq (which I MAU use as a mail to news gateway). All you have to do is configure POFile MAU to use a different port for POP retrieval and, in TB, set your MAU Account/Properties/Transport to use that port. I'm using 114, 110 is MAU used by Mercury and 112 by MailTraq. yup, that sounds like a winner!! I don't have Mailtraq, but, never mind, I don't want to get started! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
problem: Quicksearch and spamcop filter
Hi, Every time I try to forward spam to Spamcop with a manual filter (**which is also listed on the FAQ page**) using the command CTRL+ALT+S the quick search bar pops up. I don't know why this is happening. I've looked at the hot keys (shortcuts) and it isn't listed as belonging to the quick search bar. It isn't listed at all belonging to anything so that shouldn't be a problem. I also tried using CTRL+ALT+N to forward spam, but that doesn't matter.. The quick search bar keeps popping up. The filter works fine but the side affect is pretty annoying. It used to work fine in the past with version 1.61. Does anyone have a explanation/solution for this annoyance? Greetings, Haico Using TB! 1.62 (I hate christmas edition), WinXP sp1. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave on server woes.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Craftsman [C] wrote:'
C If I set The Bat to leave files on the server, it will continue
C to download *all* the files left on the server over and over. It
C doesn't take long to end up with a gazillion dupes.
That's likely a server configuration problem. The server is supposed
to mark successfully retrieved messages as 'read'. When TB!
reconnects, it will then know which messages are new and not yet
retrieved from which have already been retrieved.
--
-=] Allie C Martin [=- {List Moderator}
MUA: TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition ___ OS: WinXP Pro (SP1)
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http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME on ML's
* Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have reviewed other S/MIME signed messages and no, no trailer. I thought it could be a display problem in TB but looking at the source of the messages shows the trailer isn't there. A list server problem? Problem? No. S/MIME signature check would fail if the list server modified the message... so this is okay. -- Best regards, Carsten Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Attachement showing in a TAB?
Sunday, December 15, 2002, 5:02:09 PM, Thomas wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF I conform this. I didn't have associations for .log and .lst files, TF and created one for .log files (Notepad). I still don't seem to get a TF tab for the file. I also didn't have a tab appear for the .log or .lst files. I have these associated with Notepad along with .txt files and none of the attachments show the Notepad icon - they all show the Windows logo on a turned corner sheet as gerard said. -- Cheers, Anne Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A The Bat Email - Unofficial Support Forum: http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachement showing in a TAB?
Hello Gerard, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 4:11:42 PM, you wrote: G Hi Bat Users, G In the thread Newbie Q: text attachment visibility there is a G discussion about TXT attachements showing. Well they only do on my copy of G TB! for TXT files AFTER I have send or recieved them, not while editing G Files with the ext LOG or LST don't show a tabbed view. Ok, TB is showing me three tabs 1, which is an Edit Pad Pro (my text editor) and is your message TXT_test.txt, the second tab is an .lst file called on the tab and LST_test.lst on the dsidebar and clicking it shows TXT,. the third is an Edit Pad Pro file Log_test.log . -- Best regards, Mikemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachement showing in a TAB?
Hallo Gerard, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:11:42 +0100GMT (15-12-02, 17:11 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: G Files with the ext LOG or LST don't show a tabbed view. Try these. -- Groetjes, Roelof LOG LST TXT Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachement showing in a TAB?
Roelof, On 16-12-2002 02:15, you [R] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: R Try these. I get tabs for all. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62 Beta/17 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachement showing in a TAB?
Hallo Melissa, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:19:12 -0800GMT (16-12-02, 2:19 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: Try these. MR I see all of them MR How did you do that? I cheated. eg I did some manual editing of the headers that define the attached file. What I did was changing this header: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=LST_Test.lst into this header: Content-Type: text/plain; name=LST_Test.lst -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
