Re: Filter processing
MFPA On Fri 17 June 2005, 6:43:20 +1000, you wrote: The second line appears to me to indicate that it was processed by a filter called ACPL (Popfile) three times, then by a filter called EDI-L. Can anyone interpret the line and confirm that? Does the Test Filters function also indicate this? Interesting thought. Yes it does. If the popfile classification indicates that the mail is in the correct folder, running the filter on that message executes the filter three times. Then I carried out Miguel's suggestion of removing the move action and seeing how many times it filtered. The filter (with no action specified) executed FOUR times. The effect was the same running the Test Filters function and running the Re-filter function. I added the move action back in, and now the filter runs FIVE times. Again the same for both Test Filters and Re-filter. So then I removed the move action again. Now the filter runs SIX times. Add the move action back in - it runs SEVEN times. I think I can see a pattern here!! This (and another couple of similar) filter moves emails to the inbox of the account that is relevant to the content rather than the recipient address (i.e work to my work account, personal to my personal account no matter which address it was sent to). So the solution to my problem is to simply make sure the common filter does not apply to the account that will ultimately receive the email. Why didn't I think of that before. However, it still seems like a bug to me. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A little trick needed (or feature request ...)
Hi, Does someone know if it is possible, using a command-line switch or any other method, to enter the password on the command-line when using OTFE ? Greetings, -- Claude Renaud Skype : Name : renaud_claude Number : 0870445179 Using The Bat! v3.5.27 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello Avi everyone else, on 16-Jun-2005 at 22:54 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If you want to use both the new and the old account, you have to copy the existing filters to the new account. If you filter messages from the new account to the folders of the old account, you have to be careful with the identity you're using (in other words, the FROM: address). And, indeed, I want to keep the same filters, but don't want two folders for say, The Bat mail. There should be only one TBUDL folder with mail from both the old and new accounts that is TBUDL mail going into one and the same folder during the period of overlapping accounts. The you should filter into the folders of your other (old) account, and... However, MFPA suggests that if I filter mail coming in to the new account into the old folders, replies to mail that comes in through the new account server will appear to come from the old account. ...you can fix the FROM address another way. My suggestion would be that you create an addressbook template (either for single addresses or for an entire address book group) where you set the account and FROM address to use for outgoing messages in a template, using a macro combination of... %ACCOUNT=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %FROM=%- %FROM=Avi [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- The first one sets the account to use, the second clears the old FROM field, and the thing one sets the new FROM field. The trailing %- behind the macros only make sure that no extra empty lines are inserted. One thing remains, you need to transfer the filters from your old account to the new one. Depending on how many filters you have, you can either Copy and Paste them one by one from the sorting office of the old account to the sorting office of the new account - or, if you have many many filters, you Copy them from the old account (one by one) and Paste them into a single textfile (in Notepad or somewhere), then you Copy the entire textfile and Paste it into the sorting office of the new account (in one go). I hope my memory serves me right with the filter copying, someone please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The development of Hydro-electric power in the desert of North America awaits only the introduction of water. -- Statement in Nuclear News Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello Avi, 16-Jun-2005 23:29, you wrote: Are there any distinct advantages, for my purposes, in having the latest and greatest version of The Bat? v2 has virtual folders, common folders, better built-in PGP support, and a new macro syntax, and better IMAP support (though IMAP is still not working smoothly for everyone) v3 has common filters, a new filtering system, and better IMAP support (though IMAP is still not working smoothly for everyone), and since v3.5, it has a customisable GUI, and better IMAP support (though IMAP is still not working smoothly for everyone) If you don't need anything of the above in the near future, you don't need to update. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Give me, Mother, luck at my birth, then throw me if you will on the rubbish heap. (Bulgarian Proverb) Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: spam email not sent to you
Hello Alexander, Thursday, June 16, 2005, 5:06:57 PM, you wrote: Hello finalcut everyone else, on 16-Jun-2005 at 19:11 you (finalcut) wrote: But as you can see there http://finalcut.ca/spam2.png , I'm in the recipient. Is there a way in selective download filter to directly kill and not downloading these emails? I'd assume that the original-recipient header was added by your provider and not part of the original message (some providers do that, mine adds a similar header envelope-to), and I think (though I'm not entirely sure) that this header is not taken into account when you filter for the Recipient header with TB. So, a selective D/L filter with Recipient does not contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] should work, BUT!!! if you're using such a filter, you'll kill all other (non-spam) message that are BCC'ed to you, too, because BCC is how these messages were sent. You can disable automatic mail check and test it with the message dispatcher if you're not sure. What about a filter checking if @myisp.com is there AND [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't there? that wont kill e-mail from here right? -- Best regards, finalcut Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam email not sent to you
Hello finalcut everyone else, on 17-Jun-2005 at 13:50 you (finalcut) wrote: So, a selective D/L filter with Recipient does not contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] should work, BUT!!! if you're using such a filter, you'll kill all other (non-spam) message that are BCC'ed to you, too, because BCC is how these messages were sent. What about a filter checking if @myisp.com is there AND [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't there? that wont kill e-mail from here right? I think I don't understand what you mean... A message that is sent as BCC to you has no header that gives a hint that it was meant to reach you. I'll send a message where I'll BCC you. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Morning Factory (9:14) by Ani from the 1995 album 'Freezone 2: Variations On A Chill - CD 1' Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] spam email not sent to you
Finalcut: What about a filter checking if @myisp.com is there AND [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't there? that wont kill e-mail from here right? Alexander S. Kunz: I think I don't understand what you mean... A message that is sent as BCC to you has no header that gives a hint that it was meant to reach you. I'll send a message where I'll BCC you. I've seen several occurences of for [EMAIL PROTECTED] or for [EMAIL PROTECTED] in messages where [EMAIL PROTECTED] was in BCC. I believe BCC means noone else than the recipient get to sees those personal Received: header lines :) But it is also true that a header might exclude any traces to your address. I have also seen messages that was apparently BCC'd me, but there was no presence of my address in the header. I think it depends on the config of the relaying mailserver and how it handles mail. ...gotta sleep now... -- St Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam email not sent to you
Hello St - Musaic.Net everyone else, on 17-Jun-2005 at 15:22 you (St - Musaic.Net) wrote: I've seen several occurences of for [EMAIL PROTECTED] or for [EMAIL PROTECTED] in messages where [EMAIL PROTECTED] was in BCC. You mean a header called for? I believe BCC means noone else than the recipient get to sees those personal Received: header lines :) As I already said, I think that those headers (original-recipient or envelope-to, maybe for as well?) are added by the receiving server, not by the sending server, and its depends on your ISP if they are added. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: An Open Mind (3:24) by Josh Wink from the 1995 album 'Freezone 2: Variations On A Chill - (Disc 2)' Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] spam email not sent to you
Hallo St, On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:22:56 +0200GMT (17-6-2005, 15:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SMN I've seen several occurences of for [EMAIL PROTECTED] or for [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMN in messages where [EMAIL PROTECTED] was in BCC. I believe BCC means noone else SMN than the recipient get to sees those personal Received: header lines The Received: headers contain the address of the intended recipient. But they don't when the message has multiple recipients, as an example, you write a message to Marck and you BCC it to Leif and me, as the three of us live under different ISP's, your ISP will send it to three different servers. When we check the received headers, we'll find that the Received: header inserted by your provider has no destination included, whereas the receiving servers did include the recipient. Now you send your next message to Marck, but this time you BCC his wife. As this message will be sent as one message (Marck and his wife hanging under the same domain) until it reaches Silverstones, no recipient will be mentioned in the Received: headers. So the omission of your address in the Received: headers gives you some information about not being the only recipient. -- Groetjes, Roelof Newsbytes - Microsoft announce EDLIN for Windows. The Bat! 3.5.26 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpSzS0sQQKLn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
On the fly encryption password
Hello TBUDL, If I remember correctly, at the installation of TB, I chose the On the fly encryption. It also said something about a password. I havent seen any option that allows me to input a password. How does that work? When does it ask me about a password or where do I input one. Is there a way to verify that I have the On the fly encryption enabled? -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Darrin, On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:20:24 -0700 GMT (17/06/2005, 09:20 +0700 GMT), Darrin wrote: D It is the latter. I happen to look in the sorting office and there is D no filters for known senders. So I guess I have to create one? The Known fitler should be there by default under the Incoming filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. -- Cheers, Thomas. - MAN WANTED TO WORK IN DYNAMITE FACTORY. MUST BE WILLING TO TRAVEL. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Friday, June 17, 2005, 10:22:23 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: The Known fitler should be there by default under the Incoming filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. I have created a few local filters for my new IMAP account, so I just took a look at that account's sorting office, and find no 'known' filter there. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.27 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Friday, June 17, 2005, 10:50:52 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. I have created a few local filters for my new IMAP account, so I just took a look at that account's sorting office, and find no 'known' filter there. and on further reflection, immediately after sending the send button on last message, notice there is no inbox-known created for that account. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.27 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Dwight A Corrin everyone else, on 17-Jun-2005 at 17:56 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote: sending the send button That button didn't arrive here yet, however... ;-) SCNR! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Dub Angel (3:49) by Snooze vs DJ Cam from the 1996 album 'Freezone 3 - Horizontal Dancing (CD2)' Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: opening HTML files error
Hello Alexander, Thursday, June 16, 2005, 11:10:57 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, ASK on 16-Jun-2005 at 19:32 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: Oh pooh I can't remember all I know is that I got an error message that said something about not being able to find the page or something. Sorry - that would have been helpful probably. ASK Marten, I'd go and check the filetype associations and actions, as Mark ASK Partous said in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have played with file associations for a while. Associating HTML files with: Opera: no problem FireFox: no problem K-Meleon: no problem Netscape: no problem Slim Browser: no error screen but page isn't loaded IE:no problem Crazy Browser: FireFox is loaded!?? MyIE: error screen even though page is loaded NetCaptor: error screen even though page is loaded Not all of the above are recent versions. I'm afraid this didn't help us very much. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.5.25 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: opening HTML files error
Hello Mark Partous everyone else, on 17-Jun-2005 at 18:11 you (Mark Partous) wrote: Slim Browser: no error screen but page isn't loaded Crazy Browser: FireFox is loaded!?? MyIE: error screen even though page is loaded NetCaptor: error screen even though page is loaded Not all of the above are recent versions. I'm afraid this didn't help us very much. All of the browsers that fail are wrappers for the IE engine (if I'm not mistaken), so at least there's a pattern. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Gabrielle's Horns (7:28) by Black Crowe from the 1996 album 'Freezone 3 - Horizontal Dancing (CD2)' Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Dwight, On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:50:52 -0500 GMT (17/06/2005, 22:50 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. Oh sorry. I don't know about IMAP, I was talking about POP. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Friday, June 17, 2005, 11:23:05 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: DAC I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. Oh sorry. I don't know about IMAP, I was talking about POP. I don't know either. Figured the only to learn whether that was because of the differences, or whether it was an oversight, was to ask. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.27 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: spam email not sent to you
Hello Alexander, Friday, June 17, 2005, 9:10:23 AM, you wrote: Hello finalcut everyone else, on 17-Jun-2005 at 13:50 you (finalcut) wrote: So, a selective D/L filter with Recipient does not contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] should work, BUT!!! if you're using such a filter, you'll kill all other (non-spam) message that are BCC'ed to you, too, because BCC is how these messages were sent. What about a filter checking if @myisp.com is there AND [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't there? that wont kill e-mail from here right? I think I don't understand what you mean... A message that is sent as BCC to you has no header that gives a hint that it was meant to reach you. I'll send a message where I'll BCC you. Darn I'm screwed then. BayesIT doesn't work as I don't know why. I will have to find another way to block these, maybe change my isp email. thanks for the infos -- Best regards, finalcutmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: On the fly encryption password
Hallo Darrin, On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:37:39 -0700GMT (17-6-2005, 16:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: D If I remember correctly, at the installation of TB, I chose the On D the fly encryption. It also said something about a password. I D havent seen any option that allows me to input a password. How does D that work? When does it ask me about a password or where do I input D one. Is there a way to verify that I have the On the fly encryption D enabled? Well, with OTFE you're asked for a password as soon as you create a new (first) account or when you restore a back-up. Subsequently you're asked for a password every time you start TB. A kind of hard to miss, I guess. But when you're still not sure, when you're enabling the status bar View - Status bar It says 'On-The-Fly Pwd' on the utmost right of the status bar. IIRC it says something like 'plain' when you're running without OTFE. -- Groetjes, Roelof Water floats a ship...Water sinks a ship. Old Chinese Proverb The Bat! 3.5.26 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpeOyVLU8OsE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: On the fly encryption password
Hi Darrin, on Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:37:39 -0700GMT (17.06.2005, 16:37 +0200GMT here), you wrote: D If I remember correctly, at the installation of TB, I chose the On D the fly encryption. It also said something about a password. I D havent seen any option that allows me to input a password. How does D that work? When does it ask me about a password or where do I input D one. Is there a way to verify that I have the On the fly encryption D enabled? Have a look at the lower right part of TB!'s main window. Plain means unencrypted, and On-the-fly PWD means encrypted. But as Roelof pointed out, it would be hard to miss the password prompt, so I guess your entry is Plain. -- Cheers Peter It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. The Bat! v3.5.27 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam email not sent to you
Hi On Friday 17 June 2005 at 2:31:14 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: You mean a header called for? I often get things like:- Received: from [xxx.xx.xx.xx] (helo=) by clustermail.my.isp with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id xx-xxx-xx for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:01:44 +0100 ^^^ Perhaps this is the for that St refers to? -- Best regards, MFPA There is no spoon. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inline spellchecker auto correct?
Hi On Thursday 16 June 2005 at 10:20:54 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ian A. White wrote: The options I have are: Ignore all-caps words Ignore words with numerals Ignore words composed of all roman numerals Phonetic suggestions Suggest from User Dictionaries but no Autocorrect. I do not have Ignore words composed of allroman numerals or suggest from user dictionaries I have all the others you list plus: Auto correct Ignore capitalised words Ignore mixed-case words Case-sensitive Typographical suggestions Suggest split words Nine in all, plus a further three choices about speed and accuracy. -- Best regards, MFPA We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hi On Thursday 16 June 2005 at 10:08:18 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Avi is using v1.62r, that version has neither common filters nor virtual folders. :-} Oops -- Best regards, MFPA Don't anthropomorphize computers - they hate it Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: opening HTML files error
Hi On Thursday 16 June 2005 at 10:02:47 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Darrin wrote: Theres an attachment pane that shows all the attachments in my email. If its an HTML email the HTML attachment is there. I have the pane showing attachments but it does not contain the HTML attachment. I just re-checked by looking at an html email from my sister that contains 2 images. The images are in the attachment pane (and also on separate tabs behind the PTV of the message) but no html attachment is shown. -- Best regards, MFPA Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter processing
Hi On Friday 17 June 2005 at 6:57:25 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Anson wrote: Interesting thought. Yes it does. If the popfile classification indicates that the mail is in the correct folder, running the filter on that message executes the filter three times. Then I carried out Miguel's suggestion of removing the move action and seeing how many times it filtered. The filter (with no action specified) executed FOUR times. The effect was the same running the Test Filters function and running the Re-filter function. I added the move action back in, and now the filter runs FIVE times. Again the same for both Test Filters and Re-filter. So then I removed the move action again. Now the filter runs SIX times. Add the move action back in - it runs SEVEN times. I think I can see a pattern here!! So if you create a new filter, exactly the same (complete with the move action) does it run just once? [...] However, it still seems like a bug to me. Nah, it's a feature ;-) -- Best regards, MFPA It's better to feed one cat than many mice Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to make PGP 9 work with 3.5
Hi On Thursday 16 June 2005 at 11:21:01 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Danger wrote: I have installed both PG9 and Thebat on a new laptop. How do I make them play together? When I go to sign a block it's asking me to create a Open pgp sig. I have not tried PGP 9 but that suggests to me you have not yet created a PGP key pair. You need to do this before you can pgp-sign anything. -- Best regards, MFPA I think not, said Descartes, and promptly disappeared Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: help with selective download
On Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 7:55:12 PM, Vili wrote, and now David Huber on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 2:52:51 PM responds. V I know that, but instead of this, I offered an other solution. I V just wanted to point out that David (the original question V asker) wrote that : Of course, I've set it up this way and it V works perfectly and wondrously. And email sent to both of us is V also being downloaded by both of us, which is especially V wonderful. It was not mentioned before, that the dual-recipient V mails stays on the server... I have The Bat! set to keep email on the server for a number of days. And I assume that since I'm having the email of both of us sent to one fastmail.fm account, that the fastmail.fm must be getting two copies of any email sent to both of us (though i don't know that for sure, and even though the fastmail.fm inbox doesn't show it when I check it through the browser, it seems to make sense that there are two copies of the email). And hence, we're both able to download it. I should experiment and see what happens if I change my Bat! so that it doesn't leave the message on the server, and see if person2 still gets a copy. -- David Any fine morning, a power saw can fell a tree that took a thousand years to grow. - Edwin Way Teale, naturalist and author (1899-1980) Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: opening HTML files error
MFPA @ 2005-Jun-17 4:15:47 PM opening HTML files error mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I just re-checked by looking at an html email from my sister that contains 2 images. The images are in the attachment pane (and also on separate tabs behind the PTV of the message) but no html attachment is shown. If the messages is embedded instead of attached, it may not should up on the attachment pane. Check your options under Options|Preferences|Viewer/Editor. Perhaps you have The Bat! configured not to show the HTML messages at all. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages? pgpkVqZ40cJaj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
setting up preferences for gmail; missing e-mail
If anyone on the list uses g-mail, I would appreciate some assistance in setting up a g-mail account on The Bat. I have been successful in setting up my private domain accounts, however, I now also have a g-mail account. For some reason, the Connection Center window hangs open and won't download a test message that was sent and is sitting on the gmail server. Is this a function of my not properly setting up the account on The Bat, or could it also be a function of my firewall (Outpost Agnitum). G-mail requires two ports that are different from the usual ones. Do I need to open them in my firewall first? If you use g-mail AND have Outpost, I would be particularly interested in hearing from you. Also, because I receive list mail both at home and at the office, I have just discovered that I have not been receiving a large number of postings to the list at home, where I use The Bat. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening? This seems to happen with greater frequency with postings from certain sources. However, not ALL of the mail from any one source is appears to be missing. I am hoping that this is a function of the ISP's mail server and not of my pc or software. However, until I can get the g-mail account to work properly for downloading e-mail to my pc, I can't know for sure. PS. Because I don't receive all list mail at home, it would be much appreciated if replies could ALSO be copied to my home e-mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, IL using The Bat ver. 1.62r on Windows XP professional Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: help with selective download
Hi On Friday 17 June 2005 at 8:59:15 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], David Huber wrote: And I assume that since I'm having the email of both of us sent to one fastmail.fm account, that the fastmail.fm must be getting two copies of any email sent to both of us (though i don't know that for sure, and even though the fastmail.fm inbox doesn't show it when I check it through the browser, it seems to make sense that there are two copies of the email). The penny has finally dropped for me with that one, too. Does the server keep both copies, or delete one because they (presumably) both have the same message-id? -- Best regards, MFPA Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter processing
Robin Anson wrote: RA 14/06/2005, 09:16:48: FETCH - Received message from monzon_car [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 4011 bytes, subject: [EDI-L] Help on 810 Version 5010 RA 14/06/2005, 09:16:48: FETCH - received message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (4011 bytes) (processed by ACPL (Popfile), ACPL (Popfile), ACPL (Popfile), EDI-L), URL: RA msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RA What is it that would have caused the ACPL (Popfile) filter to be RA applied 3 times? A bug. In 3.0.1.33 every time you modify a common filter, it triggers an additional time. That was fixed by 3.0.2.8. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: setting up preferences for gmail; missing e-mail
Hi On Saturday 18 June 2005 at 12:28:08 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], achdut wrote: If anyone on the list uses g-mail, I would appreciate some assistance in setting up a g-mail account on The Bat. In The Bat! I have SMTP server= smtp.gmail.com connection=Secure to regular port(STARTTLS) port=587 Authentication=perform SMTP authentication(rfc 2554), use settings of mail retrieval Mail server=pop.gmail.com connection=Secure to dedicated port(TLS) port=995 Authentication=regular server timeout=60 seconds In gmail settings I have POP enabled and set to trash gmail's copy when a message is downloaded. could it also be a function of my firewall (Outpost Agnitum). G-mail requires two ports that are different from the usual ones. Do I need to open them in my firewall first? Possibly. No experience of that Firewall; I use Zone Alarm. Also, because I receive list mail both at home and at the office, I have just discovered that I have not been receiving a large number of postings to the list at home, where I use The Bat. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening? Presumably you have The Bat! set to leave messages on server so they are still there when you later download from work. Do you have that option with the software you use at work(and is it set correctly)? If not, messages you download at work will be deleted and this will mean some messages not being downloaded at home. PS. Because I don't receive all list mail at home, it would be much appreciated if replies could ALSO be copied to my home e-mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Done. -- Best regards, MFPA During an eruption - move away from the volcano - not towards it Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: setting up preferences for gmail; missing e-mail
Hello achdut, Friday, June 17, 2005, 7:28:08 PM, you wrote: a For some reason, the Connection Center window hangs open and a won't download a test message that was sent and is sitting on the a gmail server. Gmail sucks... I love the search engine but the email service I rate as one of the worse of all time. You won't get the test message if you send it from your own gmail account. You'll need to test from another account... a Is this a function of my not properly setting up the account on The a Bat, or could it also be a function of my firewall (Outpost Agnitum). a G-mail requires two ports that are different from the usual ones. Do a I need to open them in my firewall first? If you use g-mail AND have a Outpost, I would be particularly interested in hearing from you. You can always try but don't sweat it. The fault of you not getting email from your own account IF you're sending mail from the same exact account is Googles feature and not a bug. a Also, because I receive list mail both at home and at the office, I a have just discovered that I have not been receiving a large number of a postings to the list at home, where I use The Bat. Does anyone have a any ideas as to why this is happening? This seems to happen with a greater frequency with postings from certain sources. However, not a ALL of the mail from any one source is appears to be missing. I am a hoping that this is a function of the ISP's mail server and not of my a pc or software. However, until I can get the g-mail account to work a properly for downloading e-mail to my pc, I can't know for sure. You're stuck. Until Google offers the option of completely disabling there proprietary spam filters you're virtually hopeless... Go check your spam folder for those messages... a PS. Because I don't receive all list mail at home, it would be much a appreciated if replies could ALSO be copied to my home e-mail address, a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Honestly, go with hotpop. www.hotpop.com. They might put a tag line in your messages and they might not. When I first signed up I had a few tag lines but then, they disappeared. Another really nice online service to check out which is free and which stated will be offering pop service in the future is www.inbox.com. This clearly knocks Gmail out the box and when it reaches pop status, Google is going to lose a lot of people... Anyhow, leave Gmail alone... 2GB sounds good if you love headaches. It's also good if you're prepared to change the standard email procedure into something you'll only ever find in Gmail... I rate Gmail 1/5. -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: opening HTML files error
Hello Mark, Friday, June 17, 2005, 9:11:36 AM, you wrote: I'm afraid this didn't help us very much. At least we can see the pattern now. Im going to mess with it a bit and see what I can do. Probably nothing, but I will try. Thanks for checking into more. -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Thomas, Friday, June 17, 2005, 8:22:23 AM, you wrote: The Known fitler should be there by default under the Incoming filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. I checked and nothing. I know how to re-create the known inbox, but how do I re-create the filter? Thanks -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: On the fly encryption password
Hello Peter, Friday, June 17, 2005, 12:01:55 PM, you wrote: Have a look at the lower right part of TB!'s main window. Plain means unencrypted, and On-the-fly PWD means encrypted. But as Roelof pointed out, it would be hard to miss the password prompt, so I guess your entry is Plain. Looks like mine says plain. I was sure I chose OTFE... So I guess I need to make a backup of my files, uninstall TB and reinstall with OTFE and then import my backup. Is this the correct steps to take? Thanks -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: On the fly encryption password
Hello Darrin, Friday, June 17, 2005, 7:03:23 PM, you wrote: So I guess I need to make a backup of my files, uninstall TB and reinstall with OTFE and then import my backup. Is this the correct steps to take? Thats what I went ahead and did and it works fine now. :) -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New DATA location
Rich On Sat 18 June 2005, 10:13:18 +1000, you wrote: I use version 2.12. Can someone please supply me with a comprehensive checklist of the process so that (as I am prone to do) I do not miss anything? From memory (and I am on v3) what you need to do is go into Options - Preferences - System and change the mail directory. Then if you have set up individual accounts in non-standard locations (in v3 that is in Account - Properties - Files Directories) you may need to adjust those. I am fairly sure that TB! will actually move all your data files and message bases for you then. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter processing
MFPA On Sat 18 June 2005, 06:22:14 +1000, you wrote: So if you create a new filter, exactly the same (complete with the move action) does it run just once? Yup! -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter processing
George On Sat 18 June 2005, 10:28:45 +1000, you wrote: A bug. In 3.0.1.33 every time you modify a common filter, it triggers an additional time. That was fixed by 3.0.2.8. Ah, well there you go. I can confirm that it 3.0.1.33 does indeed do that! Just in case anyone wanted such confirmation. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB with OTFE Backups
Hello TBUDL, Now that I have OTFE enabled. My question is if I make a backup of all my accounts using TB that I keep on a separate drive, are the backups encrypted as well? -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
May I Use Wildcards In TB Filtering Strings For Emails?
Hej tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com, Greeting all Ye Ole Bat users! this is my first posting to the user list though I've used the bat! since version 1.3-something Now I've not looked to deep in the mailinglist and the question might have been asked before but here it is: May I Use Wildcards In TB Filtering Strings For Emails, and what should it look like? -- mvh, qe3ee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E fructu arbor cognoscitur 06:25:42 den 18 juni 2005 --- The Bat! v2.12.04 Windows XP.5.1.2600 if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
