Re: Voyager default app
Hello Stefan, >> how can I get Voyager rhe default mailclient at my tablet? >> It is not in the list of possible choices. > Voyager cannot be set as the default email client using a conventional way > because it's not installed as it's required. > A, pity, but thanks. I hoped, I could get rid of the bloody Windows Mail every time I click a mail-to link. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager default app
Hello Gunivortus, Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 10:05:29 PM, you wrote: > how can I get Voyager rhe default mailclient at my tablet? > It is not in the list of possible choices. Voyager cannot be set as the default email client using a conventional way because it's not installed as it's required. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager default app
Hello, how can I get Voyager rhe default mailclient at my tablet? It is not in the list of possible choices. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19043 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager install
Hello Peter Meyns, >> Is there a short and easy way to get in Voyager the accounts >> and settings I have in TB at my desktop? > Yes. In TB! on your desktop go to Menu - Tools and create a backup of > the account(s) and settings you want to use with Voyager. In the new > installation select "Restore" and point to the .tbk file you created > before. Thanks. Will do that. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager install
Hello Gunivortus, on Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:13:38 +0200GMT (27.08.2021, 13:13 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:816107479.20210827131...@boudicca.de : > Is there a short and easy way to get in Voyager the accounts > and settings I have in TB at my desktop? Yes. In TB! on your desktop go to Menu - Tools and create a backup of the account(s) and settings you want to use with Voyager. In the new installation select "Restore" and point to the .tbk file you created before. -- Cheers Peter ' Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager install
Hello, Shortly before installing Voyager on my Windows 10 tablet... Is there a short and easy way to get in Voyager the accounts and settings I have in TB at my desktop? -- Kind regards, Gunivortus The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Easy way to switch from Voyager to The Bat
Hi Luca, on Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:52:32 +0200GMT (09.07.2020, 15:52 +0200GMT here), you wrote: LvT> Is there an easy way to switch from Voyager with OTFE to The Bat, mantaining LvT> all the message base, options and configuration? In Voyager create a complete backup (Menu -> Tools -> Backup). Install The Bat! and restore the backup. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Easy way to switch from Voyager to The Bat
Is there an easy way to switch from Voyager with OTFE to The Bat, mantaining all the message base, options and configuration? Tnx. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 9.1.10.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
MFPA:
> Hi
> On Sunday 7 June 2015 at 8:51:41 PM, in
> , Luca wrote:
>
> > I know, and I can tell you: there is no "browse" button
> > to select a program for mailto: handler, you can only
> > pick applications from the list, and Voyager is not in
> > the list of application to choose from.
>
> Playing with my search engine for a while got me:-
>
> <https://superuser.com/questions/536849/how-to-associate-the-mailto-protocol-with-a-custom-exe>.
>
> "The following saved as a .REG file, edited to specify my custom
> EXE and imported into the registry works for me in Windows 7:
It works! That's great, thank you. I've been searching for a long time for a
trick like that.
> > For .eml files, problem is not to associate the
> > extension to Voyager, but if I do that, Voyager opens a
> > "new message" editor window with the file as an
> > attachment, instead of opening the .eml file as a
> > message, showing its content.
>
> So Windows is picking the right application but the wrong action. Is
> there no way to edit the action?
With the registry, I think so. But there are a lot of keys related to .eml
extension, these are just some of them:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\OpenWithList]
"MRUList"="ab"
"b"="wlmail.exe"
"a"="voyager.exe"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\OpenWithProgids]
"Microsoft Internet Mail Message WLMail"=hex(0):
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\UserChoice]
"Progid"="Applications\\voyager.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml]
"Content Type"="message/rfc822"
"CachedFilterIID"="{0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}"
"PersistentHandler"="{0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}"
@="Microsoft Internet Mail Message WLMail"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\PersistentHandler]
@="{0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\shellex]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\shellex\{8895b1c6-b41f-4c1c-a562-0d564250836f}]
@="{b9815375-5d7f-4ce2-9245-c9d4da436930}"
If I choose "Open with Windows Live Mail", WLM opens and shows the .eml file
like it's supposed to do, while "Open with Voyager" results in a new message
in Voyager with the .eml file as an attachment.
> And I would have thought you wanted to also associate .msg files,
> although these seem to be less common than a few years ago. I still
> encounter them occasionally.
Right, same thing as .eml. I didn't think about .msg because it's been a while
since I saw the last one, AFAIR.
--
Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Hi On Sunday 7 June 2015 at 8:51:41 PM, in , Luca wrote: > I know, and I can tell you: there is no "browse" button > to select a program for mailto: handler, you can only > pick applications from the list, and Voyager is not in > the list of application to choose from. Playing with my search engine for a while got me:- <https://superuser.com/questions/536849/how-to-associate-the-mailto-protocol-with-a-custom-exe>. "The following saved as a .REG file, edited to specify my custom EXE and imported into the registry works for me in Windows 7: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\mailto] "URL Protocol"="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\mailto\shell] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\mailto\shell\open] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\mailto\shell\open\command] @="C:\\Path\\to\\Program.exe" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\mailto] "URL Protocol"="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\mailto\shell] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\mailto\shell\open] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\mailto\shell\open\command] @="C:\\Path\\to\\Program.exe" Remember that your setting can always be overridden by the user via browser options." I am using XP and have not tried this at all. Use at your own risk, etc. > For .eml files, problem is not to associate the > extension to Voyager, but if I do that, Voyager opens a > "new message" editor window with the file as an > attachment, instead of opening the .eml file as a > message, showing its content. So Windows is picking the right application but the wrong action. Is there no way to edit the action? And I would have thought you wanted to also associate .msg files, although these seem to be less common than a few years ago. I still encounter them occasionally. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Free advice costs nothing until you act upon it Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Feli Wilcke: > Hello Luca, > > On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 +0200GMT Luca wrote: > > >> That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via > >> Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? > > L> Because in my Windows 7 Home Premium there is no "browse" button to select > a > L> program for mailto: handler, and Voyager is not on the list of application > to > L> choose from. > > This is the way for XP, in W7 you would use systems preferences | > program standards (or similar). There are some options you could try I know, and I can tell you: there is no "browse" button to select a program for mailto: handler, you can only pick applications from the list, and Voyager is not in the list of application to choose from. > L> So, remaining problems: > L> - associate mailto: url and shortcuts to Voyager, system-wide > L> - associate .eml file so that they open in Voyager > > see above For .eml files, problem is not to associate the extension to Voyager, but if I do that, Voyager opens a "new message" editor window with the file as an attachment, instead of opening the .eml file as a message, showing its content. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Hello Luca, On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 +0200GMT Luca wrote: >> That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via >> Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? L> Because in my Windows 7 Home Premium there is no "browse" button to select a L> program for mailto: handler, and Voyager is not on the list of application to L> choose from. This is the way for XP, in W7 you would use systems preferences | program standards (or similar). There are some options you could try L> So, remaining problems: L> - associate mailto: url and shortcuts to Voyager, system-wide L> - associate .eml file so that they open in Voyager see above -- Regards, Feli The Bat! Version 6.8.2.3 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Reklame ist die Kunst auf den Kopf zu zielen, und die Brieftasche zu treffen [Vance Packard] Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Rick: > >The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: > >protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but > >still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be > >possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but > >nobody came out with a solution so far. > > The problem comes because voyager is portable and doesn't make registry > entries > The keys you could BACKUP and then play with are > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI > 64-bit > and / or > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI > 32-bit I think I tried that too, once, but I did't know what to insert in those keys. Maybe I should try and install The Bat, then substitute the path to TB executable with the path to Voyager? I'm a little reluctant to do that. Would you be so kind to export that registry key on your machine in a .reg file then paste here the content? Maybe I could try to adapt it. Anyway, I think a little external application would come handy for Voyager users, to build the right associations in the registry, if Ritlabs would like do it. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
MFPA: > On Saturday 6 June 2015 at 3:17:33 PM, in > , Luca wrote: > > > The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to > > associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every > > hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still > > I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still > > guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I > > asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out > > with a solution so far. > > I would have thought not touching the host computer's settings was one > of the points of a portable app. Yes, the main reason why I use portable apps is to be able to use "my" applications when traveling, when I can't carry my laptop with me, but when I come back home I'd like not to have limitations, particularly if I place the same application in the same place everytime, either a USB unit or a folder. Why not? It would be perfectly possible to install Voyager with proper registry settings, on demand or running some simple external configuration utility to write the right settings in the registry. > That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via > Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? Because in my Windows 7 Home Premium there is no "browse" button to select a program for mailto: handler, and Voyager is not on the list of application to choose from. > And in Firefox via Tools | Options | Applications? Wait, wait... Thank you very much, one problem solved! How did I miss that? So, remaining problems: - associate mailto: url and shortcuts to Voyager, system-wide - associate .eml file so that they open in Voyager Thanks for any hint. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Hi On Saturday 6 June 2015 at 3:17:33 PM, in , Luca wrote: > The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to > associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every > hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still > I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still > guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I > asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out > with a solution so far. I would have thought not touching the host computer's settings was one of the points of a portable app. That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? And in Firefox via Tools | Options | Applications? -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
>The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: >protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still >I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible >somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came >out with a solution so far. The problem comes because voyager is portable and doesn't make registry entries The keys you could BACKUP and then play with are HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit and / or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 32-bit Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Trash: > I have started to try Voyager. There is no documentation comparing it > to the "full version" (apart from saying it includes all the features) > > I have two basic questions: > > a) Is there any disadvantage at all of using Voyager as my main > software, i.e. as the main software on my desktop as well as USB, and > discarding the installed version altogether -- what will I lose?? The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. Except for that, I think it's all the same. The installed version betas usually come out more frequently than Voyager updates but I can live with that. > b) Does the E-mail data *have* to be encrypted on Voyager. I am mainly > interested in portability, and take care of security in other ways. > Encryption in Voyager would (possibly) make me more susceptible to data > loss. I seem to remember that yes, the Voyager database must be encrypted. I'm not 100% sure, though. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager versus installed version
I have started to try Voyager. There is no documentation comparing it to the "full version" (apart from saying it includes all the features) I have two basic questions: a) Is there any disadvantage at all of using Voyager as my main software, i.e. as the main software on my desktop as well as USB, and discarding the installed version altogether -- what will I lose?? b) Does the E-mail data *have* to be encrypted on Voyager. I am mainly interested in portability, and take care of security in other ways. Encryption in Voyager would (possibly) make me more susceptible to data loss. -- Aubrey mailto:trash876...@btinternet.com Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: desperately need a hack to associate mailto: URLs to Voyager.
Hi On Thursday 18 September 2014 at 7:52:30 AM, in , Luca wrote: > I desperately need a registry hack, or any sort of solution, to have my > Windows 7 run Voyager, not Outlook, when I click on mailto: URLs. I use Windows XP not 7, and The Bat!, not Voyager. But here are a couple of untested suggestions. In Windows XP, there is "Set Program Access and Defaults", accessible from the start menu. Can also get to it by selecting "Add or Remove Programs" in the control panel. If you have that in Windows 7, you could try selecting the radio button next to "use my current email program" and possibly un-ticking the box next to Microsoft Office Outlook that is marked "enable access to this program". If doing that while all email programs closed and then re-booting, doesnt help, maybe you could achieve something via the tools | folder options menu in an Explorer window. I have not tested this idea, and the steps are from Windows XP; 7 might be a bit different. On the "File Types" tab, select "URL:MailTo Protocol" and click the "advanced" button. Select "Open" and click the "Edit" button, then click the "browse" button and locate your Voyager executable. Click the "open" button to select it. On mine, which points to The Bat!, "use DDE" is ticked and the "DDE Message" box is populated with '/nologo /o:"%1"' (without the single quotes but with the double quotes). I have not used Voyager, so I don't know if it needs this. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net If you are afraid to speak against tyranny, then you are already a slave. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: desperately need a hack to associate mailto: URLs to Voyager.
Bill McQuillan: > > On Wed, 2014-09-17, Luca wrote: > > > I desperately need a registry hack, or any sort of solution, to have my > > Windows 7 run Voyager, not Outlook, when I click on mailto: URLs. > > I haven't thoroughly tested it, but in my version of The Bat! Thank you, but it's Voyager, not The Bat. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: desperately need a hack to associate mailto: URLs to Voyager.
On Wed, 2014-09-17, Luca wrote: > I desperately need a registry hack, or any sort of solution, to have my > Windows 7 run Voyager, not Outlook, when I click on mailto: URLs. I haven't thoroughly tested it, but in my version of The Bat! going to Options | Preferences then go to the Associations tab and you should be able to set the MailTo: option and then press "Associate Now". Hope this helps. -- Bill McQuillan Using The Bat! 5.0.20.1 on Windows 7 6.1 build 7601-Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager: desperately need a hack to associate mailto: URLs to Voyager.
I desperately need a registry hack, or any sort of solution, to have my Windows 7 run Voyager, not Outlook, when I click on mailto: URLs. Voyager resides on the F: partition of my internal hard disk. Thank you thank you thank you. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: pryvacy broken in log files?
MFPA: > Hi > On Tuesday 18 February 2014 at 4:39:51 PM, in > , Luca wrote: > > IMAP_1.log SMTP.log > > > These ones contain email text, not encrypted, and I > > don't know how to avoid that. > In TB! you go to the properties of an account, then on the tree on the > left, under "Transport," is an entry called "Protocol Logging." On > that pane are two tick-boxes and the paths to two files. Protocol > Logging is only needed to investigate problems with sending or > receiving mail. That's it, thank you. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: pryvacy broken in log files?
Hi On Tuesday 18 February 2014 at 4:39:51 PM, in , Luca wrote: > Hello, > I found two files in the folders of one of may IMAP > accounts in Voyager: > IMAP_1.log SMTP.log > These ones contain email text, not encrypted, and I > don't know how to avoid that. My questions: > - Is there any way to encrypt these log files too? > - Or how do I prevent their creation? > - Are there any other files in Voyager where data > encryption is not effective? I don't have Voyager, but my guess is they could be "Protocol Logging" files like you can set The Bat! to create. In TB! you go to the properties of an account, then on the tree on the left, under "Transport," is an entry called "Protocol Logging." On that pane are two tick-boxes and the paths to two files. Protocol Logging is only needed to investigate problems with sending or receiving mail. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Only dead fish go with the flow Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager: pryvacy broken in log files?
Hello, I found two files in the folders of one of may IMAP accounts in Voyager: IMAP_1.log SMTP.log These ones contain email text, not encrypted, and I don't know how to avoid that. My questions: - Is there any way to encrypt these log files too? - Or how do I prevent their creation? - Are there any other files in Voyager where data encryption is not effective? Thanks -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Rick: > >Already tried that. There is no Voyager in the list of programs I get with > >"change program". and ther is no "more options" option for protocols, on > >Win7, it's available only for file extensions, so I can't search for a > >program to be associated to mailto URLs. > > What protocol are you trying to change to Voyager? mailto -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Rick: > L> It's not that simple, of course, Voyager does not register itself as a > default > L> program. > > L> I guess we need some tool, or a registry configuration file. > > Go to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations > The text on win 8 read "Associate a file type or protocol ..." > Find the protocol you want and Change program" It will give you a > list, more options will give you a bigger list and at the bottom of > that is an option to search for a program on this computer Already tried that. There is no Voyager in the list of programs I get with "change program". and ther is no "more options" option for protocols, on Win7, it's available only for file extensions, so I can't search for a program to be associated to mailto URLs. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
L> It's not that simple, of course, Voyager does not register itself as a default L> program. L> I guess we need some tool, or a registry configuration file. Go to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations The text on win 8 read "Associate a file type or protocol ..." Find the protocol you want and Change program" It will give you a list, more options will give you a bigger list and at the bottom of that is an option to search for a program on this computer -- Rick "And the great owners, who must lose their land in an upheaval, the great owners with access to history, with eyes to read history and to know the great fact: when property accumulates in too few hands it is taken away. And that companion fact: when a majority of the people are hungry and cold they will take by force what they need. And the little screaming fact that sounds through all history: repression works only to strengthen and knit the repressed." - John Steinbeck - Grapes of Wrath v5.8.6 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
>Already tried that. There is no Voyager in the list of programs I get with >"change program". and ther is no "more options" option for protocols, on Win7, >it's available only for file extensions, so I can't search for a program to be >associated to mailto URLs. What protocol are you trying to change to Voyager? -- Rick A country that stops taking care of its own, that loses the capacity for empathy and compassion, that crumples up human beings and throws them away when it is done with them, feeds dark ideological monsters that inevitably rise to devour the body politic. --Chris Hedges v5.8.6 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Jack S. LaRosa: > Hello Luca, > On Sunday, October 20, 2013 you wrote: > L> How can I set Voyager as default mail client on my Windows 7 system? I > L> particularly need to open mailto: URLs with Voyager. > > START + DEFAULT PROGRAMS > > or > > START + CONTROL PANEL + DEFAULT PROGRAMS. It's not that simple, of course, Voyager does not register itself as a default program. I guess we need some tool, or a registry configuration file. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Hello Luca, On Sunday, October 20, 2013 you wrote: L> Hello, L> How can I set Voyager as default mail client on my Windows 7 system? I L> particularly need to open mailto: URLs with Voyager. START + DEFAULT PROGRAMS or START + CONTROL PANEL + DEFAULT PROGRAMS. HTH. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Hello, How can I set Voyager as default mail client on my Windows 7 system? I particularly need to open mailto: URLs with Voyager. Thanx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Info about Voyager
I've been using Voyager for the last few months, after many years with the non portable version of TB. I find a certain lack of information about Voyager, and I have a lot of questions and doubts about its functions. Is there any forum, newsgroup, mailing list, faq repository, specifically dedicated to Voyager? I couldn't find any. If it's ok to ask here, e.g., here are some questions of mine: - How do I prevent Voyager to change the name and icon of the logic unit where I install it, and how can I revert to my favourite name and Icon? - Is it possible to make it remember more than one single search field in the message finder "simple" mode? - When importing my message base back from Voyager to standard TB, can I revert to a non OTFE message base? Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: About Voyager
Thomas Fernandez: > On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:09:43 +0100 GMT (21/Nov/11, 14:09 PM +0700 GMT), > Luca wrote: > > L> I use TB Home, and I'm trying to understand exactly what Voyager is. > Browsing > L> the net, Ritlabs faqs, etc, doesn't help me much (specific faqs? Where?). > In > L> particular: > > You have found the most important FAQ, this list. Thanx for your answers. > Voyager only uses OTFE (on-the-fly encryption), you do not have > the choice of whether you want encryption or not. I have put in a wish > for the choice... ;-) It's a bit scary for me, everything encrypted... what if something got scrambled up? I like more when I can still read my messages with notepad. All the rest sounds nice. > L> - is there a trial version? > > I don't actually know. The PC versions of TB! are > 30-day-try-before-you-pay, but Voyager requires the Pro licence key > before installing... I didn't try to try, give it a try and let us > know! I tried, I also downloaded an old "The Bat! Voyager 4.2.36.4" that I'm told it's shareware: http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/Internet/E-mail/Windows-Portable-Applications-The-Bat-Voyager.shtml but here it won't run at all, without a proper serial number. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: About Voyager
Hello Luca, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:09:43 +0100 GMT (21/Nov/11, 14:09 PM +0700 GMT), Luca wrote: L> I use TB Home, and I'm trying to understand exactly what Voyager is. Browsing L> the net, Ritlabs faqs, etc, doesn't help me much (specific faqs? Where?). In L> particular: You have found the most important FAQ, this list. L> - with Voyager, do I need just a TB Pro /licence/ or must TB Pro be installed L> first on my computer to put Voyager at work? You don't need to actually install the Pro version. But since you need the Pro licence to run Voyager, why not? Once you install Voyager, you will be asked for a licence key. Voyager will only install of that is a Pro key. L> - can all my TB Home configuration and database (email, address book, filters, L> etc) be imported into Voyager once and for all? Yes. What you do is you make a back-up of your database by using the internal backup function. When you install Voyager on your stick, you will be asked whether you want to restore from backup. You say yes, and point to the backup file on your hearddisk. L> - will I find all TB Home features in Voyager as well, or is it a different L> email client? Same thing. L> - can I use Voyager without encription, just like Thunderbird Portable, for L> example? No. Voyager only uses OTFE (on-the-fly encryption), you do not have the choice of whether you want encryption or not. I have put in a wish for the choice... ;-) L> - is there a trial version? I don't actually know. The PC versions of TB! are 30-day-try-before-you-pay, but Voyager requires the Pro licence key before installing... I didn't try to try, give it a try and let us know! -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
About Voyager
Hello everybody, I use TB Home, and I'm trying to understand exactly what Voyager is. Browsing the net, Ritlabs faqs, etc, doesn't help me much (specific faqs? Where?). In particular: - with Voyager, do I need just a TB Pro /licence/ or must TB Pro be installed first on my computer to put Voyager at work? - can all my TB Home configuration and database (email, address book, filters, etc) be imported into Voyager once and for all? - will I find all TB Home features in Voyager as well, or is it a different email client? - can I use Voyager without encription, just like Thunderbird Portable, for example? - is there a trial version? Thank you, -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: voyager - account access password
On 7/27/2011, you wrote: > Hi > On Wednesday 27 July 2011 at 3:50:04 PM, in > , Roelof Otten wrote: >> Why >> should you set passwords on the accounts when you set >> a password on the whole config. > An example might be some accounts shared with your partner and some > not shared. precisely .. thanks! -- regards, .. m.davidson Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: voyager - account access password
Hi On Wednesday 27 July 2011 at 3:50:04 PM, in , Roelof Otten wrote: > Why > should you set passwords on the accounts when you set > a password on the whole config. An example might be some accounts shared with your partner and some not shared. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Think for yourself. Otherwise you have to believe what other people tell you. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: voyager - account access password
Hallo mark, On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:49:30 -0400GMT (26-7-2011, 21:49 , where I live), you wrote: MD> when using 'the bat', it's possible to set an account access MD> password by way of the account menu or . MD> unless i missed something, it doesn't seem possible to set an MD> account access password in voyager (currently using 5.0.18.3). Can't be done with Voyager, nor with TB running OTFE. I guess it wsas considered redundant. Why should you set passwords on the accounts when you set a password on the whole config. -- Groetjes, Roelof Avoid "off-topic" warnings -- put the moderator on your twitlist. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.20.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpxIocc0K6l7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
voyager - account access password
hello all, when using 'the bat', it's possible to set an account access password by way of the account menu or . unless i missed something, it doesn't seem possible to set an account access password in voyager (currently using 5.0.18.3). does anyone know how to do this or if the functionality is missing, why it was left out of voyager? -- regards, m.davidson Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Install Voyager
Hello TBUDL, Just installing Voyager. It is asking for a registration block. The email with that in got lost with a crash of TB! sometime ago. How do I register Voyager? -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager password recovery?
Hi On Wednesday 9 December 2009 at 1:32:18 PM, in , Tim Musson wrote: > I can't recall the password. > Does anyone know if it can be recovered, and how to go > about it? Hypnosis? (-; -- Best regards MFPA We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager password recovery?
Hello all, Wednesday, December 9, 2009, Tim Musson wrote: > TBUDL, > I just found my missing USB flash drive with Voyager installed on it. > Unfortunately I can't recall the password. > Does anyone know if it can be recovered, and how to go about it? no, it can not be recovered -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.13.4 ALPHA under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.2.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager password recovery?
TBUDL, I just found my missing USB flash drive with Voyager installed on it. Unfortunately I can't recall the password. Does anyone know if it can be recovered, and how to go about it? -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v3.99.29 This message will self-destruct in five seconds. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop
Hello Scott, Monday, December 7, 2009, 2:57:15 AM, you wrote: > Hello TBUDL, > I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I > have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the > data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade > my key to V4.2 pro. > What would be the best path to do this? If I had to this I would make sure of a few things. Make and test out the backup so that you know before all your data is moved that the bat works... no idea how much data is involved but I know from personal experience that if you have to download as in my case again from google it takes a long time... Also I still have 50% still missing which was in voyager backup. Keep also in mind that if you go for latest OS the Voyager may need an update as well to make sure it can handle the latest files... Reminds me, google and the bat donot do a proper job on downloading again as dates on what comes in is totally adjusted to current time/date... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop
Hello TBUDL, I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade my key to V4.2 pro. What would be the best path to do this? -- Best regards, Scott mailto:scott...@gmx.net Using The Bat! 3.95.06 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 (0 days 13:54:56) on Uno Intel Pentium 4 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB Voyager 4.0.38
Hi there, I am a registered user of TB 4.0.38 and would like to use TB voyager. Unfortunately It seems that the only downloadable version from Ritlabs is 4.1.11. Will this work with my registration key for 4.0.38? If not, is there an official location from which I can download the 4.0.38 version? Thanks! Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hello Roelof, Friday, April 24, 2009, 3:25:24 PM, you wrote: > Hallo Sean, > On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:10:13 +0100GMT (24-4-2009, 12:10 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: SR>> Is there a mailing list for Voyager? > AFAIK No. But any Voyager questions can be posted here... Ah ok, was curious more than anything Sean -- Thawte, GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer .tel http://rima.tel/ I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong pgpIkAfhZDLAT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hallo Sean, On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:10:13 +0100GMT (24-4-2009, 12:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SR> Is there a mailing list for Voyager? AFAIK No. But any Voyager questions can be posted here... -- Groetjes, Roelof Evolution: God's way of issuing updates. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.11.16 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpPEYdvwrAld.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager
Hello TheBat, Is there a mailing list for Voyager? Sean -- Thawte, GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer .tel http://rima.tel/ I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong pgpWLTdDhqieI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager Synch
Sunday, December 7, 2008, 8:10:39 PM, you wrote: > If you want to keep their message base the same, the best way to > manage that would be to create a full backup from TB and restore that > to Voyager and when you're back, you create a backup from Voyager and > restore that to TB on your PC. > As long as you don't use them simultaneously this procedure should > work. This did not work for me. The restore seemed to time out quickly and while the usual warning "this could take a long time" was accepted, after about 30 minutes I gave up. When I cancelled the restore, I noticed that the accounts were imported but no emails at all. I am also missing my templates and the accounts are not configured with their relevant connection data. On the plus side, the address book has been imported. Any idea why this is not working for me? I am using the Pro Version but my database is not encrypted. I realise that voyager has an ecrypted database - could that be the reason and if so, how could I deal with it? -- Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager Synch
Sunday, December 7, 2008, 8:10:39 PM, you wrote: > If you want to keep their message base the same, the best way to > manage that would be to create a full backup from TB and restore that > to Voyager and when you're back, you create a backup from Voyager and > restore that to TB on your PC. Just to clarify, if I did a backup/restore as described today (from desktop to voyager) for testing and then did another backup/restore at the end of the week, would that just overwrite/update voyager with the latest data? -- Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager Synch
I TRIED the other way, ie putting voyager data back into the bat and all I say is that while my system didn't cooperate, it isn't simple so don't anything you cannot recover from...tracer ` Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager Synch
Hallo Tom, On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:19:38 +1100GMT (7-12-2008, 3:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T> I am trying to follow the instructions in the help file for T> synchronising my primary bat with a new voyager bat on my usb. Don't bother to try. I don't even think it was intended to work that way between Voyager and TB. AFAIK nobody has ever managed to sync properly between TB and Voyager. TB is intended to work from your harddisk and Voyager is intended to work from removable storage like a USB stick, so basically they're different products, even though their message base format is the same. If you want to keep their message base the same, the best way to manage that would be to create a full backup from TB and restore that to Voyager and when you're back, you create a backup from Voyager and restore that to TB on your PC. As long as you don't use them simultaneously this procedure should work. The only thing I tried on this procedure is to restore a TB backup to Voyager, Never tried it the other way around, so you'd better try that beforehand with a proper TB backup at hand. -- Groetjes, Roelof It is dangerous to confuse children with angels. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.39.35 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpGoCEkwyvz0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager Synch
as an update: I realise that the message base in Voyager is encrypted by default. Since I upgraded my existing Home Version to Pro on my main pc, my current database is not encrypted. Could that be the reason for the failure and is there a way around it. I can't seem to find anything on how to encrypt the database - only info relating to emails to be sent. -- Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager Synch
Hello Everyone, I am trying to follow the instructions in the help file for synchronising my primary bat with a new voyager bat on my usb. I installed voyager and tested it with a newly set up account and everything works as it should. I would like to tranfer my whole existing bat to voyager to be available during an upcoming trip. So following the guidelines my Laptop is installation 1, my prime bat is installation 2 and the synch file should be happening on voyager. However each time I try to go through step three, voyager just times out/freezes with the maintenance centre appearing plus hourglass but no further processing. I am not sure if my file size is too big? My USB stick has free space of 3.75 gb - if I look at my TB folder with all accounts and templates, this shows 2.26 GB. Do I need more free space or what am I missing? I also don't see any way to select the accounts for backup with respect to my main Bat. It seems I only have the option for installation 1 (which currently is pristine) but for installation 2 the choice only relates to address books. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hi On Tuesday 18 November 2008 at 8:45:18 PM, in , Tom wrote: > would that be covered under my license or be considered > running a second instance of TB? If the travel is short-term you could presumably take advantage of the 30-day evaluation period to see how you get on with TB! on your laptop. The licence says, "You are granted a non-exclusive licence to use the program on one computer at a time." Open to interpretation but I would suggest that may cover you if you do not simultaneously power up TB! on both machines. [...] > How would I do that without messing everything up? I > used webmail in the past and using "leaving messages on > server" downloaded again after return to my normal > workstation. However, any emails sent from webmail > would not show up or only if using cc to my own account > and then have to be shifted around to the correct > folders (from inbox to sent) with having the wrong time > stamps? One suggestion would be to create a backup from your main TB! installation and "restore" it to the laptop installation before you go, then after you return create a backup from your laptop and restore to your main PC. -- Best regards, MFPA When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:20:48 AM, you wrote: > If you are taking your own laptop, you could just duplicate your TB! > setup from your desktop PC onto your laptop. No need to upgrade to Pro > or to try Voyager(-; would that be covered under my license or be considered running a second instance of TB? > You may need different settings to send mail from a different location > (for example, if the mail server is at your ISP and requires > connecting via their network). yeah, that is right but would not be a problem. > You would need to integrate the messages you received on your laptop > while travelling into the messagebase on your PC after your return. How would I do that without messing everything up? I used webmail in the past and using "leaving messages on server" downloaded again after return to my normal workstation. However, any emails sent from webmail would not show up or only if using cc to my own account and then have to be shifted around to the correct folders (from inbox to sent) with having the wrong time stamps? -- Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hi On Sunday 16 November 2008 at 12:29:21 PM, in , Tom wrote: > I normally use TB on my desktop but will be travelling > shortly. I could just log on to my accounts via webmail > but would miss my many templates that make life so much > easier. If I upgraded to Pro and then downloaded > voyager (free?), how could I then make use of it during > my travels with a laptop? If you are taking your own laptop, you could just duplicate your TB! setup from your desktop PC onto your laptop. No need to upgrade to Pro or to try Voyager(-; You may need different settings to send mail from a different location (for example, if the mail server is at your ISP and requires connecting via their network). You would need to integrate the messages you received on your laptop while travelling into the messagebase on your PC after your return. -- Best regards, MFPA Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a risk? Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Voyager)
Hi On Tuesday 18 November 2008 at 12:14:09 PM, in , koenraad rutgers wrote: > Ok, but if you open the box to answer, the cursor sits > at the top. The cursor will sit wherever your reply template tells it to sit. > I used to start adding messages at the > bottom.. After quite a few complaints I swapped to > adding at the top but no problem. People probably complained about having to scroll down to find your message - if they even noticed you had not just returned their message without adding a reply (-; > I prefer adding down the message anyway. second item, a bit > difficult to read I see as I just deleted it! It's generally difficult to read something you've deleted! > Anyway I had problems in the past when trying voyager > as after a system crash how do you find your mail if it > has disappeared. Options would include:- * a backup you made shortly before the system crash * using the dispatcher to download messages again if you kept them on the server * data recovery tools/services * a very good memory -- Best regards, MFPA Zorba the Greek - before he zorbas you Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hello Roelof, On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:24:54 +0100 GMT (18/11/2008, 18:24 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: KR>> If you get a crash though or a virus , how do you get the voyager KR>> messages back into the bat... Extensions arent the same! RO> The extensions are the same for Voyager and TB with OTFE. So when you RO> use the same master password for Voyager and TB you can easily import RO> the messages.ebb files from Voyager into TB. And if you don't use OTFE, you can still create a backup from Voyager and restore into TB!. -- Cheers, Thomas. If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Voyager)
Ok, but if you open the box to answer, the cursor sits at the top. I used to start adding messages at the bottom.. After quite a few complaints I swapped to adding at the top but no problem. I prefer adding down the message anyway. second item, a bit difficult to read I see as I just deleted it! Anyway I had problems in the past when trying voyager as after a system crash how do you find your mail if it has disappeared. Last item, I installed antivirus pro (2009) but I think it is a fake product as Icon is wrong various other things and for sure its not Comodo's icon set. Software comes from their website. Tracer Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hallo koenraad, On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:06:42 +0700GMT (18-11-2008, 4:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: KR> If you get a crash though or a virus , how do you get the voyager KR> messages back into the bat... Extensions arent the same! The extensions are the same for Voyager and TB with OTFE. So when you use the same master password for Voyager and TB you can easily import the messages.ebb files from Voyager into TB. -- Groetjes, Roelof To err is human. Obviously, humans have bugs in the source code. - SLR http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.22 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpzkJ4v4pdgE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Voyager)
Hallo koenraad, On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:06:42 +0700GMT (18-11-2008, 4:06, where I live), you wrote: KR> mail on about every system visited! KR> tracer0 KR> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> Hello Dave, Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out koenraad. )<)))'> This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Support the use of low yield nuclear devices for Moderators! pgpX6qUtr8xP5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Thomas, If you get a crash though or a virus , how do you get the voyager messages back into the bat... Extensions arent the same! Another usage is by the way if you meet many customers as you could run your mail on about every system visited! tracer0 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hello Dave, > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:14:50 +1100 GMT (17/11/2008, 05:14 +0700 GMT), > Dave Cripps wrote: > > DC> This is not to denigrate Voyager, as I think it's a wonderful idea and > DC> it does work terrifically on the home front and when you are > DC> travelling very locally and likely to use another home computer, but > DC> in Europe & the UK forget it, you will be locked out of the majority > DC> of most internet cafe computers. > > This is also true in many internet cafes in Asia. I often have to hunt > around at my travel location until I find an internet cafe that allows > exe files from USB sticks to be run. Often enough, when I get home I > will discover that I have a virus on the stick - no big deal, as I > just delete everything on the stick and reinstall before the next > trip. I have a directory called "USB" on my harddrive for that, I just > copy the whole directory onto the stick. > > Why do I go through all this trouble? - I find it still better to use > Voyager with all my email accounts, setting and templates, rather than > having to log into the various web interfaces. And when I stay at > friends' places in Europe, there will be no problem using the USB > stick and Voyager anyway. > > -- > > Cheers, > Thomas. > > A computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at > kick-boxing. > http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ > > Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 > under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 > > > > > > > Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html > -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hello Dave, On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:14:50 +1100 GMT (17/11/2008, 05:14 +0700 GMT), Dave Cripps wrote: DC> This is not to denigrate Voyager, as I think it's a wonderful idea and DC> it does work terrifically on the home front and when you are DC> travelling very locally and likely to use another home computer, but DC> in Europe & the UK forget it, you will be locked out of the majority DC> of most internet cafe computers. This is also true in many internet cafes in Asia. I often have to hunt around at my travel location until I find an internet cafe that allows exe files from USB sticks to be run. Often enough, when I get home I will discover that I have a virus on the stick - no big deal, as I just delete everything on the stick and reinstall before the next trip. I have a directory called "USB" on my harddrive for that, I just copy the whole directory onto the stick. Why do I go through all this trouble? - I find it still better to use Voyager with all my email accounts, setting and templates, rather than having to log into the various web interfaces. And when I stay at friends' places in Europe, there will be no problem using the USB stick and Voyager anyway. -- Cheers, Thomas. A computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick-boxing. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hello Tom, Sunday, November 16, 2008, 11:29:21 PM, you wrote: > I normally use TB on my desktop but will be travelling shortly. I > could just log on to my accounts via webmail but would miss my many > templates that make life so much easier. If I upgraded to Pro and then > downloaded voyager (free?), how could I then make use of it during my > travels with a laptop? You might be interested Tom in my wife's recent experiences whilst travelling overseas & in fact even before leaving home. Wanting to have everything at her fingers tips, I setup Voyager on our USB key before her departure and visited several Internet cafe shops in town to give it a trial run. Imagine our surprise when it didn't work; not because of any failure of the software or USB key, but because the cafe owners won't let outside executables or programs run away from the hard disc itself. As he said "How do we know you're not adding a key logger or worse". Further discussions revealed that this would be the same attitude at most other places around the globe. So we gave up on that idea choosing instead to use webmail as a substitute. This is not to denigrate Voyager, as I think it's a wonderful idea and it does work terrifically on the home front and when you are travelling very locally and likely to use another home computer, but in Europe & the UK forget it, you will be locked out of the majority of most internet cafe computers. I love the idea though and I'm even more angry at the exorbitant fees some overseas Hotels charge for their internet access. Cheers Dave Cripps in Tasmania -- Best regards, Dave Cripps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hobart, Tasmania Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Monday, November 17, 2008, 4:55:49 AM, you wrote: > - upgrade to Pro includes Voyager > - Voyager: flash drive, USB stick > - on any computer, including your laptop :) > - if you want to send messages elsewhere, from another IP address, through > your own ISP, be sure to verify that your ISP's authorization method is > 'POP before SMTP' > - before and after travel synchronize desktop/stick excellent - seems exactly what I need. When you install/set-up Voyager, is there any way to export your current set-up with respect to accounts and templates? Also, does it come with some inbuilt synchronize function or plug-in? -- Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hello Tom, Sunday, November 16, 2008, 1:29:21 PM, you wrote: T> I am currently using TB Home and am curious about Voyager. I T> understand that to use Voyager I could upgrade to TB Pro but despite T> looking at Ritlabs explanation page, I am not sure what I get with T> Voyager. T> I normally use TB on my desktop but will be travelling shortly. I T> could just log on to my accounts via webmail but would miss my many T> templates that make life so much easier. If I upgraded to Pro and then T> downloaded voyager (free?), how could I then make use of it during my T> travels with a laptop? - upgrade to Pro includes Voyager - Voyager: flash drive, USB stick - on any computer, including your laptop :) - if you want to send messages elsewhere, from another IP address, through your own ISP, be sure to verify that your ISP's authorization method is 'POP before SMTP' - before and after travel synchronize desktop/stick -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hi Tom, on Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:29:21 +1100GMT(16.11.2008, 13:29 +0100GMT here), you wrote: T> I am currently using TB Home and am curious about Voyager ... how T> could I then make use of it during my travels with a laptop? You install Voyager on a USB-stick for instance. Then you can use it with any Windows computer that allows you to run applications from removable media. -- Cheers Peter The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron, a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager
Hello Everyone, I am currently using TB Home and am curious about Voyager. I understand that to use Voyager I could upgrade to TB Pro but despite looking at Ritlabs explanation page, I am not sure what I get with Voyager. I normally use TB on my desktop but will be travelling shortly. I could just log on to my accounts via webmail but would miss my many templates that make life so much easier. If I upgraded to Pro and then downloaded voyager (free?), how could I then make use of it during my travels with a laptop? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: Account/Folder list font
Hello Peter, On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:46:30 +0200 GMT (17/10/2008, 01:46 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: TF>> Except that the Account/Folder list uses another font. I cannot find TF>> where to change this. PM> Miguel is right. Options/Preferences/System is the place in Voyager PM> too. Thanks, both of you. -- Cheers, Thomas. Don't wear your glasses on a blind date. You'll look better, and he will too. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: Account/Folder list font
Hi Thomas, on Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:03:07 +0700GMT (16.10.2008, 18:03 +0200GMT here), you wrote: TF> Except that the Account/Folder list uses another font. I cannot find TF> where to change this. Miguel is right. Options/Preferences/System is the place in Voyager too. -- Cheers Peter Tagline dispenser temporarily out of order. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: Account/Folder list font
Hello Thomas, > Except that the Account/Folder list uses another font. I cannot find > where to change this. I found where to change the Message list font, > but that doesn't help me. Thanks for any tips where to look. Don't know if it may be different in Voyager, but in TB: Options/Preferences/System -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.15 (ALPHA) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager: Account/Folder list font
Hello TBUDL, I destroyed another USB stick and bought a new one. Downloaded the latest Voyager, restored from Back-up, everything is nice. Except that the Account/Folder list uses another font. I cannot find where to change this. I found where to change the Message list font, but that doesn't help me. Thanks for any tips where to look. -- Cheers, Thomas. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Copy TB structure to Voyager
Hello Bats, Two questions: 1) Is it possible to copy my TB! setup (accounts, folders, rules...) without coying the messages themselves. (did not see this possiblity in Back-Up) 2) If I were to collect mail with Voyager, leaving the messages on the server, would The Bat! still see those as unread messages that have to be downloaded? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.25 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copy TB structure to Voyager
Hallo Mark, On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:39:52 +0100GMT (30-11-2007, 17:39 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MP> 1) Is it possible to copy my TB! setup (accounts, folders, rules...) without MP>coying the messages themselves. (did not see this possiblity in Back-Up) Yes, that's what I did when I tested Voyager. Can't remember whether I made a backup without messages or simply didn't restore the messages. MP> 2) If I were to collect mail with Voyager, leaving the messages on the MP>server, would The Bat! still see those as unread messages that have to be MP>downloaded? TB will see them as unread (or not downloaded) TB stores the id's for the downloaded messages in a local file. It's only Gmail style providers that don't offer the messages for download for a second time. -- Groetjes, Roelof I was the kid next door's imaginary friend. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.27.2 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpwMIfdtJmhR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default email client?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:06:36 + Doug Higby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try this: While the USB stick with Voyager is connected, open IE > > (yes, Internet Explorer) and go to Tools / Internet Options / > > Programs. There, see whether you can set the program for Mail to > > Voyager. > > No, only three options, none of which is Voyager. This is a bit as expected, as I believe IE looks in the registry for email programs. Voyager isn't supposed to announce its presence in the registry. The reason is that the concept for Voyager is to be a travel tool, and you won't want to fiddle with the registry of the host system. > > Understood, and it is an interesting experience. What would happen > > if a mailto: is called while the stick with Voyager is not > > connected? > > It would fail to automatically send the mail. Something it does now > *all* the time, since I don't use any other email client. But at > least it wouldn't open up Outlook ((shudder)). Well. There was a question recently (not sure whether it was on this list or on TBBETA) why Ritlabs develops two programs in parallel, The Bat! and Voyager. I think this answers the question. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default email client?
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 2:18:49 AM, you wrote: > Try this: While the USB stick with Voyager is connected, open IE (yes, > Internet Explorer) and go to Tools / Internet Options / Programs. > There, see whether you can set the program for Mail to Voyager. No, only three options, none of which is Voyager. > Understood, and it is an interesting experience. What would happen if > a mailto: is called while the stick with Voyager is not connected? It would fail to automatically send the mail. Something it does now *all* the time, since I don't use any other email client. But at least it wouldn't open up Outlook ((shudder)). -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default email client?
Hello Doug, On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:24:18 + GMT (11/06/2007, 20:24 +0700 GMT), Doug Higby wrote: DH> Is there any way to make Voyager the default email client on a DH> computer? I have tried, but have not been successful. Anytime I DH> click on a mailto link, Outlook or something else comes up. Try this: While the USB stick with Voyager is connected, open IE (yes, Internet Explorer) and go to Tools / Internet Options / Programs. There, see whether you can set the program for Mail to Voyager. I don't think so, as Voyager is not known as an email program to the system: Ideally, it has no registry entries at all. But it's worth a try. DH> It may seem counterintuitive for me to want to do this, but I don't DH> use TheBat! at all, and just take Voyager between home and office so DH> no synchronization is necessary. Understood, and it is an interesting experience. What would happen if a mailto: is called while the stick with Voyager is not connected? -- Cheers, Thomas. A bycicle can't stand on its own, because it's two-tired. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager as default email client?
Hello tbudl, Is there any way to make Voyager the default email client on a computer? I have tried, but have not been successful. Anytime I click on a mailto link, Outlook or something else comes up. It may seem counterintuitive for me to want to do this, but I don't use TheBat! at all, and just take Voyager between home and office so no synchronization is necessary. -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Voyager won't start
Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 12:18:59 PM, you wrote: > Hello Andrew Diederich & everyone else, > Try FileMon from Sysinternals: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Filemon.mspx That's a great resource, thanks for the link. I got Voyager up and going. Basically I got a cup of coffee and by the time I got back it was running. I think I'm actually running into a completely different OS/hardware issue. Thanks for the time. > Limit the logging to voyager.exe with the filter option. Try to see if > any open/create operation causes a fail in the logs. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager won't start
I've been running Voyager on a usb thumb drive since December, and today suddenly it won't start up. I don't get any error messages, it just does nothing after I double-click it. It should be about version 3.95.6, and I'm running XP pro. I do have a few hundred MB free on the drive. The voyager process gets stuck in task manager, and can't be killed. (Well, I try and stop the process, but it never goes away.) Is there a way to fix this, or get logs to identify the problem? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hello Peter, On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:33:32 +0100 GMT (12/02/2007, 01:33 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM> [RegKey left by Voyager] >>> As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a >>> friend's computer. Gr>> So, I should use "regedit", search for "Voyager" and delete the key? PM> In principle, yes. I automate it with a batch file for exiting Voyager PM> which also deletes the reg key. Please (re-)send the contents of this batch file. -- Cheers, Thomas. Andreas Moeller (Schalke 04): Ich hatte vom Feeling her ein gutes Gefuehl. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hi Cristina, on Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:07:50 +GMT (11.02.2007, 19:07 +0100GMT here), you wrote: [RegKey left by Voyager] >> As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a >> friend's computer. Gr> So, I should use "regedit", search for "Voyager" and delete the key? In principle, yes. I automate it with a batch file for exiting Voyager which also deletes the reg key. Gr> Hmmm... Sometimes that might not be possible. For example, when using Gr> my work (school) computers I don't have Administrator's privileges, so Gr> I don't think I can edit the Registry. If Voyager can't write to the registry there is no need for cleaning up. :) -- Cheers Peter 'Yield to temptation. It may not come your way again.' Oscar Wilde Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hi Peter, On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, at 17:51:49 [GMT +0100] (which was 16:51 where I live) you wrote: > Sure we can! :)) Just make sure to have your Images folder with the > Rogues and Smileys copied to the Voyager directory on the stick, and > it will work as with The Bat!. Done > As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a > friend's computer. So, I should use "regedit", search for "Voyager" and delete the key? Hmmm... Sometimes that might not be possible. For example, when using my work (school) computers I don't have Administrator's privileges, so I don't think I can edit the Registry. Thanks for your answer. -- Cristina in Lisboa, Portugal :cristina: Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hi Gmail_mcristina.ramos, I don't consider this off topic, so I crosspost my reply to TBUDL. :) On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:47:54 +GMT you wrote on TBOT: Gr> I guess this is a repeated question, but can anyone tell me whether Gr> we can use Rogues and Smileys in Voyager. Sure we can! :)) Just make sure to have your Images folder with the Rogues and Smileys copied to the Voyager directory on the stick, and it will work as with The Bat!. But there are two things you should keep in mind: Have an eye on the global.ini file in the Voyager directory. It adds lines about the MSL files for every time you start Voyager. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6167 Depending on your USB stick's capacity, it might be worthwhile to delete the superfluous lines. (I'm using Voyager on a 128MB stick...) And in case you open a message editor, it adds an entry to the registry of the host machine. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515 As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a friend's computer. -- Cheers Peter Oh Lord, give me patience. But give it to me RIGHT BLOODY NOW! Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: Smilies
Hi Simon, on Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:23:58 +GMT (28.01.2007, 13:23 +0100GMT here), you wrote: S> Having a spare moment and being a relatively new-ish user to the S> Voyager program I noticed a week or so ago that I didn't have 'Smilies' displayed in Voyager. S> I decided to simply copy the 'images' folder from my TB directory S> to the corresponding directory on my USB media. It clearly works, S> including 'Rogues' and 'PCWsmilies'. S> I don't remember an installation option to allow/deny 'smilies' - did I miss something? Right click on a message with a smiley like this one and select "Smileys". :)) I knew it was somewhere - still I searched for quite a while... ;) -- Cheers Peter The irony of life is that no one gets out alive... Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Question about Voyager
Andrew, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 9:39:25 PM, you wrote: AD> On 1/3/07, Michael Rudnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AD> >> Regarding my second question, let me give an example. I'm away from my main >> computer. I plug my flash drive into another computer and download >> messages. I send a few messages. How do the downloaded messages and my >> sent messages get back to my main computer? AD> Voyager is a stand-alone email client. I got bit by that, too. It's AD> not meant to be TB when you're away, it's really a separate mailbase. AD> So, when I bought TB! to use at work, I just started using Voyager for AD> my home email. AD> Don't let the sync options in the menus fool you -- they don't work AD> (so says Ritlabs support). Or, they're really not for syncing between AD> TB! and Voyager, anyway. Okay, that makes sense. I'll just use it to look at mail in a familiar interface. It's easy enough to turn off the deleting from the server and I can send a bcc of my sent messages to myself. It's a shame there isn't much in the way of documentation. It also would be nice to have *some* kind of syncing. It's almost, but not quite, ready. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question about Voyager
On 1/3/07, Michael Rudnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Regarding my second question, let me give an example. I'm away from my main computer. I plug my flash drive into another computer and download messages. I send a few messages. How do the downloaded messages and my sent messages get back to my main computer? Voyager is a stand-alone email client. I got bit by that, too. It's not meant to be TB when you're away, it's really a separate mailbase. So, when I bought TB! to use at work, I just started using Voyager for my home email. Don't let the sync options in the menus fool you -- they don't work (so says Ritlabs support). Or, they're really not for syncing between TB! and Voyager, anyway. -- Andrew Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Question about Voyager
Peter, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 5:03:02 PM, you wrote: PM> Hi Michael, PM> on Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:42:57 -0500GMT (03.01.07, 19:42 +0100GMT here), PM> you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: MR>> I finally bit the bullet and am exploring Voyager. My current message store MR>> is 875MB. I don't need all of that on the flash drive. Is there a way to MR>> determine what folders in my store are synced onto the flash drive? Also, MR>> how do the messages get back into the desktop computer? PM> Create a complete backup of your desktop TB!. When Voyager is PM> installed select Tools -- Restore and point it to your backup. Then PM> you can choose, which parts of it (accounts or folders) you want to PM> have in Voyager. The messages don't need to get back on the desktop PM> computer, because they never leave it. I see the Restore dialog. My choices are: Account Properties Folders with Messages Address Books Global Options If I uncheck the Folders with Messages, I get the folder structure with no messages. I don't see any way to selectively restore some folders and not others. Regarding my second question, let me give an example. I'm away from my main computer. I plug my flash drive into another computer and download messages. I send a few messages. How do the downloaded messages and my sent messages get back to my main computer? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question about Voyager
Hi Michael, on Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:42:57 -0500GMT (03.01.07, 19:42 +0100GMT here), you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: MR> I finally bit the bullet and am exploring Voyager. My current message store MR> is 875MB. I don't need all of that on the flash drive. Is there a way to MR> determine what folders in my store are synced onto the flash drive? Also, MR> how do the messages get back into the desktop computer? Create a complete backup of your desktop TB!. When Voyager is installed select Tools -- Restore and point it to your backup. Then you can choose, which parts of it (accounts or folders) you want to have in Voyager. The messages don't need to get back on the desktop computer, because they never leave it. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.95.06 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP OS: Windows 98, v.4.10,Build Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Question about Voyager
Alexander, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 12:56:17 AM, you wrote: ASK> Hello Mike Greenbaum & everyone else, ASK> on 03-Jan-2007 at 06:34 you (Mike Greenbaum) wrote: >> I'm a bit puzzled about Voyager. >> Does one buy it separately or does it come automatically with The Bat! >> Professional? ASK> Its a part of the Pro license. I finally bit the bullet and am exploring Voyager. My current message store is 875MB. I don't need all of that on the flash drive. Is there a way to determine what folders in my store are synced onto the flash drive? Also, how do the messages get back into the desktop computer? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question about Voyager
Hello Mike Greenbaum & everyone else, on 03-Jan-2007 at 06:34 you (Mike Greenbaum) wrote: > I'm a bit puzzled about Voyager. > Does one buy it separately or does it come automatically with The Bat! > Professional? Its a part of the Pro license. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I'm just a collection of mirrors, reflecting what everyone else expects of me. -- Rollo May Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Question about Voyager
I'm a bit puzzled about Voyager. Does one buy it separately or does it come automatically with The Bat! Professional? I'm currently using 2.01.3 Business Edition and am thinking of taking advantage of the Christmas sale to upgrade, but I'm not sure whether Voyager is sold separately or as part of Professional. Thanks for any clarification. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager usage problems
Hello Peter, On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 you wrote in PO> 'localhost' is the computer you were working on at that time PO> '127.0.0.1' is the same as 'localhost' PO> Both are not likely to be valid as account or server, unless you PO> created such a setup yourself. I didn't set it up but that is, believe it or not, the set up that was installed by some local firm when they set it up for my father. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 with POP3 account & AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager usage problems
Hello Roelof, On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 you wrote in RO> Kill spamkiller when you're using Voyager on your dad's system. I've actually uninstalled it as my Dad doesn't use his PC a great deal and knows nothing about them so, when something goes even slightly wrong, he's flummoxed and it's difficult as he lives on his own. OE now works fine but I still can't send with Voyager. His MCafee firewall asks for permission to use Voyager which I grant but still no luck. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 with POP3 account & AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager usage problems
Hello Alexander, On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 you wrote in ASK> 1. you can't send with Voyager and ASK> 2. your dad can't connect using OE. ASK> Is that correct? Indeed it is. I used to be able to send with no problems but the last two times I've been up (and since he upgraded his McAfee) I haven't been able to connect, even though I put all the usual SMTP settings in for my Voyager, and then there's something that completely screws up MacAfee so that Spamkiller doesn't work. On going to the internet chat forums I found out that it's the Spamkiller programme that doesn't actually load and using Voyager causes that. I've now completely removed it but still can't send myself using Voyager. ASK> If the McAfee spam killer works as a local proxy and automatically ASK> adjusts the configuration, the entries in OE would be correct ASK> (using localhost as the server). Yes, it does work if I manually install Spamkiller but that's beyond my Dad so that's why I've removed it. ASK> As it looks now, the McAfee spam filter is not working, and OE ASK> can't connect to the local proxy. Indeed, that's what turned out to be the problem. ASK> a) the personal firewall (McAfee it seems) is set to something like ASK> "high security" and blocks every SMTP connection attempt to outside ASK> hosts that are not explicitely configured as allowed - you have to ASK> check the configuration of the McAfee firewall in that case The first time I use Voyager McAfee asks for permission to allow it. The firewall itself is set to normal security. ASK> b) the provider of your dad blocks SMTP connections to foreign SMTP ASK> servers and people must relay all messages thru their own SMTP server I suppose that's a possibiliy although he's using BT in the UK and I think they'd allow that sort of thing. At the moment I'll just have to content myself with being able to read mails but having to send using Mail2Web. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 with POP3 account & AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager usage problems
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] & everyone else, on 25-Dez-2006 at 19:28 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm using Voyager up at my Dad's house and am having problems. Whatever > I set I can't send, only receive. I have to send via Mail2web. My Dad's > PC has McAfee security centre and he gets the following message now when > he tries to use Outlook Express for his messages: > The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'localhost', Server: > '127.0.0.1', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: > 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E I'm a little bit confused, you seem to describe two different problems... 1. you can't send with Voyager and 2. your dad can't connect using OE. Is that correct? > I've had a look at the McAfee centre but can't adjust the settings for > SpamKiller which is, according to various mailing lists, the trouble > maker. Anyone know a solution? If the McAfee spam killer works as a local proxy and automatically adjusts the configuration, the entries in OE would be correct (using localhost as the server). You could try to use the "real" server addresses for POP3 access to your dads email account and enter them in OE. As it looks now, the McAfee spam filter is not working, and OE can't connect to the local proxy. Regarding the unability for you to send messages with Voyager, there could be different causes for that: a) the personal firewall (McAfee it seems) is set to something like "high security" and blocks every SMTP connection attempt to outside hosts that are not explicitely configured as allowed - you have to check the configuration of the McAfee firewall in that case b) the provider of your dad blocks SMTP connections to foreign SMTP servers and people must relay all messages thru their own SMTP server (you can't do anything about that) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The struggle for knowledge has a pleasure in it like that of wrestling with a fine woman. -- Lord Halifax Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager usage problems
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 13:28:16 -0500GMT (25-12-2006, 19:28 , where I live), you wrote: RW> I've had a look at the McAfee centre but can't adjust the settings for RW> SpamKiller which is, according to various mailing lists, the trouble RW> maker. Anyone know a solution? Kill spamkiller when you're using Voyager on your dad's system. -- Groetjes, Roelof As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpuon4Nz40Hq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
