date:20160511

Thanks Mark, that was it. Strange, since I don't ever use that feature of 
TiddlyWiki. I must have accidentally clicked it instead of something else, 
then used the clone tool to clone the folded tiddler for the other ones 
that were folded. Anyway, it is fixed now, thanks again!

Dave

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:42:03 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The tiddler is folded. Unfold it and your tags will show up.
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 7:42:59 PM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> In 
>> http://giffmex.org/gospels.bubbles.html#Themes%20in%20John%20by%20passage 
>> (part of an ambitious project far from completion), you will see there are 
>> several tiddlers in chapter 7 of the list that don't display the tag field 
>> and appear as single spaced. When you go to one of those tiddlers that has 
>> tags (eg 
>> http://giffmex.org/gospels.bubbles.html#John%2007.25-30%20-%20Where%20Jesus%20is%20from),
>>  
>> you will see that the tags do not display in view mode, only in edit mode.
>>
>> Any idea why these few tiddlers don't play by the rules? I am mystified.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[tw] Re: Why does the tag field not display in certain tiddlers?

Thanks for the kind words, Birthe. The tags did show in edit mode. Not sure 
why you couldn't see them. But Mark's answer did the trick.

Blessings

Dave

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:23:30 PM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
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> Hi Dave,
>
> I do not see the tags in edit mode in those tiddlers.
>
>
> What a great work you are doing!  
> Birthe
>
>
> you will see that the tags do not display in view mode, only in edit mode.
>
>>
>> Any idea why these few tiddlers don't play by the rules? I am mystified.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

2016-05-11 Thread LG

Btw, do you have any tips on how to keep the text field from splitting? I 
was looking at TiddlyTools which said to write text which has a comma in it 
like so: "Here is some text, here is more." When I toss that in using your 
code, I get: 

"Here is some text<--- body 
here is more   <--- custom field

I then tried writing it as ""Here is some text, here is more."" just to see 
if that produced a different response. Nope. 

Best, 

LG 

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, LG wrote:
>
> Hello, Mark!
>
> I can confirm that this works. The first attempt failed. But I realized 
> the issue was that I forgot to reload after importing then saving. Then it 
> worked smoothly. 
>
> I'm going to stress test it a bit more to see what else I can do. 
>
> Thank you!
>
> LG
>
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. BE 
>> SURE TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!
>>
>> Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it as a 
>> helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up the code 
>> so that it does everything at once.
>>
>> Drag and drop the attached json file into your TW. Save and reload your 
>> TW.
>>
>> Follow the instructions in "How to use the CSV to TW/JSON helper". 
>> Basically you create a tiddler with your CSV data. The first row of the CSV 
>> data must have your field headers, and the field "title" is mandatory. If 
>> you want "created" or "modified" you will have to add your own date stamps 
>> at this point. 
>>
>> If the converter tiddler is successfully, your CSV data will appear 
>> below. You can copy and paste the converted JSON code into a separate file 
>> with a JSON extension, and then drag and drop it back into your TW to 
>> convert. This is the part that could use some more automation. 
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot *figure 
>>> out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells me I 
>>> need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL into 
>>> my TiddlyWiki, but the page just reloads and goes to that site. 
>>>
>>> How do I do this?
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag field not display in certain tiddlers?

2016-05-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

The tiddler is folded. Unfold it and your tags will show up.

HTH
Mark


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>
> Hi all
>
> In 
> http://giffmex.org/gospels.bubbles.html#Themes%20in%20John%20by%20passage 
> (part of an ambitious project far from completion), you will see there are 
> several tiddlers in chapter 7 of the list that don't display the tag field 
> and appear as single spaced. When you go to one of those tiddlers that has 
> tags (eg 
> http://giffmex.org/gospels.bubbles.html#John%2007.25-30%20-%20Where%20Jesus%20is%20from),
>  
> you will see that the tags do not display in view mode, only in edit mode.
>
> Any idea why these few tiddlers don't play by the rules? I am mystified.
>
> Dave
>

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag field not display in certain tiddlers?

2016-05-11 Thread 'Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki

Hi Dave,

I do not see the tags in edit mode in those tiddlers.


What a great work you are doing!  
Birthe


you will see that the tags do not display in view mode, only in edit mode.

>
> Any idea why these few tiddlers don't play by the rules? I am mystified.
>
> Dave
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[tw] Re: tags and carriage returns

2016-05-11 Thread Matabele

Hi Andy

I made a little utility for adding and copying tags to tiddlers -- you may find 
this here. 

Not a fix for the standard tag editor -- but makes adding several tags to 
one or more tiddlers a snap.

regards

On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 17:34:40 UTC+2, Andy Pastuszak wrote:
>
> I don't know if this has been brought up before, but it would be a great 
> time saver to be able to deal with tags in a new tiddler with arrow keys 
> and carriage returns.
>
> For example, start typing a new tag.  The auto complete list pops up.  You 
> arrow down to the tag you want and just hit enter.  For new tags, just type 
> the word and hit enter, rather than having to click on the add button.
>
> I think it would speed up my note taking a great deal.
>
> Andy
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Re: [tw] Re: Check out my new here buttons, thumbnail galleries and alternative tag editor for TW5

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Dave  wrote:

> Also, can you think of any way to get a similar thumbnail of a regular
> tiddler?  I tried tagging one with the appropriate tag and it just didn't
> show up.
>

No, an image link does not work with tiddlers. Only with images. I do
recall seeing a plugin that calls up a thumbnail of tiddler contents upon
hover. But I don't have a link for you. Someone else can chime in.


> Also, adding text to one that had a transclusion to an image tiddler, like
> this:
>
> some text
> {{image tiddler}}
>
> only showed the image and not the text
>

I would have to see them tiddler in question to see what you are seeing

and know how to respond. Not sure what is happening.

Blessings!

>
>
> I don't imaging this is possible, but its worth asking in case I'm wrong.
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Re: [tw] Re: Check out my new here buttons, thumbnail galleries and alternative tag editor for TW5

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Dave  wrote:

> that's pretty cool! Thanks (2 years later) for making that!!
>

You're welcome, but really I swiped the image gallery code from Jeremy
Ruston.

He probably created it when I asked him if it could be done. Because he is
generous about doing that kind of thing.

>
> BTW, it works great for regular image tiddlers, but when I try it with a
> bunch of pdf files I imported, the little square where the image goes says
> "a plugin is needed to display this content" - do you know of a solution
> for this?
>

Pdfs are not images in that sense, though they kind of seem like that. I
believe you can use an iframe to display pdfs.

Been a long time since I did that, and maybe things have changed, so I
don't know the current state of things regarding pdfs.

>
> I'll repost here if I find it first.
>
> DaveP
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[tw] Why does the tag field not display in certain tiddlers?

Hi all

In 
http://giffmex.org/gospels.bubbles.html#Themes%20in%20John%20by%20passage 
(part of an ambitious project far from completion), you will see there are 
several tiddlers in chapter 7 of the list that don't display the tag field 
and appear as single spaced. When you go to one of those tiddlers that has 
tags (eg 
http://giffmex.org/gospels.bubbles.html#John%2007.25-30%20-%20Where%20Jesus%20is%20from),
 
you will see that the tags do not display in view mode, only in edit mode.

Any idea why these few tiddlers don't play by the rules? I am mystified.

Dave

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Re: [tw] Re: Check out my new here buttons, thumbnail galleries and alternative tag editor for TW5

Also, can you think of any way to get a similar thumbnail of a regular 
tiddler?  I tried tagging one with the appropriate tag and it just didn't 
show up.  Also, adding text to one that had a transclusion to an image 
tiddler, like this:

some text
{{image tiddler}}

only showed the image and not the text


I don't imaging this is possible, but its worth asking in case I'm wrong.

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Re: [tw] Re: Check out my new here buttons, thumbnail galleries and alternative tag editor for TW5

that's pretty cool! Thanks (2 years later) for making that!!

BTW, it works great for regular image tiddlers, but when I try it with a 
bunch of pdf files I imported, the little square where the image goes says 
"a plugin is needed to display this content" - do you know of a solution 
for this?

I'll repost here if I find it first.

DaveP

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RE: [tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER forge4t that.

2016-05-11 Thread infurnoape

I want to know about the other thing?!?

Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

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Date: 5/11/16  2:44 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
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Subject: [tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external  editors. NEVER forge4t 
that. 

 My tiddly friend, you should probably start the other TW blog. You're 
making valid points but many of them are kind of "general insights" ... etc.

WE are ephemeral. 

I am interested in ME. 

The TW5 editor IS good. 

Ask  if you want to know about the other things.

J.

On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:13:28 UTC+2, Mat  wrote:My tiddly friend, you 
should probably start a TW blog. You're making valid points but many of them 
are kind of "general insights" so people will forget them and (for sure) a week 
from now they're gone in the archives. I'd say it is extremely unlikely that 
anybody would search for an insight like the one you just posted, even if it - 
again - is valid. Personally my outlet for these types of thoughts (and much 
more) is TWaddle. It is convenient also; I can refer to articles there when the 
occasions arise.
<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Check out my new here buttons, thumbnail galleries and alternative tag editor for TW5

Hi Dave

[is[current]tagging[]

in the content from "Sample image gallery" tiddler means that it calls up 
all the tiddlers tagged with the title of the current tiddler. (not all 
tiddlers tagged 'image') 

So if you create a tiddler "Flowers" and from there use the "new image 
here" button, that button will create a new tiddler tagged Flowers, and it 
will be based on the template tiddler "$:/aa/ImageTemplate 
 
".
 
You add the link there to the image, title it eg "Rose 1" and save the 
tiddler. Then in the Flowers tiddler you will see the thumbnail image from 
Rose 1.

Other Dave

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Re: [tw] Re: Check out my new here buttons, thumbnail galleries and alternative tag editor for TW5

Hi Dave, I realize this is 2 years old, but your image gallery thumbnails 
functionality is just what I'm looking for.

Unfortunately I can't seem to figure it out.  I copied the tiddler content 
in the example gallery and copied the appropriate (I think) parts of the 
stylesheet, but I couldn't find any reference to your tag "image" which I 
assume must be refered to somewhere in the process of rendering the 
thumbnails of the image tiddlers.

Can you remember enough to find the missing key element in this?


Thanks, 
Dave

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[tw] Re: tags and carriage returns

It definitely feels like it's been brought up but I'm not sure where. If 
it's not in Github already 
(I couldn't find it but I'm tired) then it probably should be.

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Set widget attributes remotely?

Mario, Jeremy, thanks.



We generally introduce transclusions when we identify a portion of a shadow 
> tiddler that would benefit from being independently controllable. For 
> example, look at the change to add configurability to the autofocus 
> attribute of the sidebar search:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a89ae45188733fdfa7660175db2096dda86a5e34
>

Ref the above discussions here, how costly is this operation? I.e that of 
fetching a value via transclusion rather than on spot. I don't know the 
mechanics behind transclusion per se but I figure fetching values 
"elsewhere" is done all the time and should be pretty polished. 

 

> I think you’re asking for the ability to perform those sort of overrides 
> without modifying the tiddler in question. There’s no obvious way to 
> implement such a feature. But I’d be concerned about the resulting 
> complexity: with this arrangement, it wouldn’t be sufficient to look at the 
> source of a particular tiddler in order to understand what it’s doing; one 
> would also need to find and review all the overrides that might affect the 
> operation of the tiddler.
>

Yeah.. that would be a concern.  (Interesting thoughts just sparked; 
imagine making every parameter value be a pointer to a central registry. 
OR, another idea, or maybe it's a continuation; imagine another "viewing 
layer" in edit-mode so that the parameter value is really a parsed value 
but underneath it is the transclusion. Or mayb eno "extra layer" would be 
needed if one could just see the parsed values in normal view mode. Ok, I 
gotto sleep. Forgive me if this didn't make sense.)


Thank you both for informative replies!

<:-)

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[tw] Re: PLUGIN OF PLUGINS -- For Managing Multiple Tiddlywiki? Possible?

it IS odd.

For TW type code you would EXPECT iteration.

will it?

On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 22:51:50 UTC+2, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> I don't have a good solution.  What I ended up doing was creating my own 
> plugin library on github, and then I only need to copy that tiddler to new 
> files.  From there, I can install everything via the plugin library 
> mechanism.  This had the added benefit that only any given tiddler, I can 
> check to see if I've updated any of the plugins easily, and easily install 
> the updates.  But it doesn't help with other people's plugins unless I keep 
> up with copying and pasting them.  
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 1:37:29 PM UTC-4, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>>
>> I do hold back slightly, but on this I kinda think its a thought, maybe 
>> others have thunk?
>>
>> That the best plugins one combines into ONE plugin to EASILY transport TW 
>> to TW.
>>
>> HOW can one do  that? 
>>
>>
>>
>> *Is there an ethic for it?*AND A METHOD?
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: PLUGIN OF PLUGINS -- For Managing Multiple Tiddlywiki? Possible?



On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:37:29 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>
> I do hold back slightly, but on this I kinda think its a thought, maybe 
> others have thunk?
>
> That the best plugins one combines into ONE plugin to EASILY transport TW 
> to TW.
>
> HOW can one do  that? 
>
>
>
> *Is there an ethic for it?*AND A METHOD?
>
> Josiah
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: PLUGIN OF PLUGINS -- For Managing Multiple Tiddlywiki? Possible?

i really like we share the same headache.

On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 22:33:30 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
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> No solution, just a +1.
>

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[tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER forge4t that.

 My tiddly friend, you should probably start the other TW blog. You're 
making valid points but many of them are kind of "general insights" ... etc.

WE are ephemeral. 

I am interested in ME. 

The TW5 editor IS good. 

Ask  if you want to know about the other things.

J.

On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:13:28 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> My tiddly friend, you should probably start a TW blog. You're making valid 
> points but many of them are kind of "general insights" so people will 
> forget them and (for sure) a week from now they're gone in the archives. 
> I'd say it is extremely unlikely that anybody would search for an insight 
> like the one you just posted, even if it - again - is valid. Personally my 
> outlet for these types of thoughts (and much more) is TWaddle 
> . It is convenient also; I can refer to 
> articles there when the occasions arise.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER forge4t that.

My tiddly friend, you should probably start a TW blog. You're making valid 
points but many of them are kind of "general insights" so people will 
forget them and (for sure) a week from now they're gone in the archives. 
I'd say it is extremely unlikely that anybody would search for an insight 
like the one you just posted, even if it - again - is valid. Personally my 
outlet for these types of thoughts (and much more) is TWaddle 
. It is convenient also; I can refer to 
articles there when the occasions arise.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How list current tags but excepting some of them

Mark and magev, thank you!

Yes, Marks solution is what cracked the nut! For the record, here are some 
holy macaronis identified after much work. Not that I know how anybody will 
find this in the archives later on but anyway:


*Holy Macaroni #1 - *List the content of a field as a list of items, (NOT 
as one unit/link)
Here:List the tags of the current (and pick out only the second one - 
mostly to ensure it's accessible)

<$set name="set" filter="[list[!!tags]nth[2]]">
<>



*Holy Macaroni #2  - *Controlled removal by retrieving field content as 
list (NOT as one unit/link) 
Here specifically: Fetch current tiddlers tags and remove aa from them. 
Returns all remaining tags.

<$set name="set" filter="[tags[]] -[[aa]]">
<>



*Holy Macaroni #3 - *Check if a value is listed in a field for a tiddler.
Specifically: Checks if aa is listed in the tags field of the tiddler Foo

<$set name="set" filter="[[aa]listed[tags]field:title[Foo]]">
<>



Something cool is in the making.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: PLUGIN OF PLUGINS -- For Managing Multiple Tiddlywiki? Possible?

2016-05-11 Thread Matthew Lauber

I don't have a good solution.  What I ended up doing was creating my own 
plugin library on github, and then I only need to copy that tiddler to new 
files.  From there, I can install everything via the plugin library 
mechanism.  This had the added benefit that only any given tiddler, I can 
check to see if I've updated any of the plugins easily, and easily install 
the updates.  But it doesn't help with other people's plugins unless I keep 
up with copying and pasting them.  

Matt

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 1:37:29 PM UTC-4, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>
> I do hold back slightly, but on this I kinda think its a thought, maybe 
> others have thunk?
>
> That the best plugins one combines into ONE plugin to EASILY transport TW 
> to TW.
>
> HOW can one do  that? 
>
>
>
> *Is there an ethic for it?*AND A METHOD?
>
> Josiah
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.7

I have three questions about hacking tiddlydesktop to work better for my 
use case:

1) Is there any way to change something in an editable file to make the 
"tiddler" folder to be called something else? (in my case I'd like it to be 
called "data" - that's where I already keep my hundreds of text files)
2) Can I also somehow change the ".tid" extension of the tiddler files to 
be ".txt"?
3) For multi-word tiddlers, can the file have spaces in the name instead of 
"word_word"?

Thanks!
-Dave

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[tw] Re: PLUGIN OF PLUGINS -- For Managing Multiple Tiddlywiki? Possible?

2016-05-11 Thread Tobias Beer

No solution, just a +1.

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[tw] TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER forge4t that.

The recent innovations in TW5 on the editor are great..

BUT, never forget it is merely a "textarea" attempt. 

Another editor may do much better. Especially on HTML.

Josiah

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[tw] PLUGIN OF PLUGINS -- For Managing Multiple Tiddlywiki? Possible?

I do hold back slightly, but on this I kinda think its a thought, maybe 
others have thunk?

That the best plugins one combines into ONE plugin to EASILY transport TW 
to TW.

HOW can one do  that? 



*Is there an ethic for it?*AND A METHOD?

Josiah


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Re: [tw] Set widget attributes remotely?

2016-05-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Mat

> Is there any way to set or overwrite widget attribute values remotely, i.e
> without overwriting the actual tiddler? Kind of like overwriting CSS values.

We generally introduce transclusions when we identify a portion of a shadow
tiddler that would benefit from being independently controllable. For example,
look at the change to add configurability to the autofocus attribute of the
sidebar search:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a89ae45188733fdfa7660175db2096dda86a5e34

I think you’re asking for the ability to perform those sort of overrides
without modifying the tiddler in question. There’s no obvious way to implement
such a feature. But I’d be concerned about the resulting complexity: with this
arrangement, it wouldn’t be sufficient to look at the source of a particular
tiddler in order to understand what it’s doing; one would also need to find and
review all the overrides that might affect the operation of the tiddler.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Plugin Localization

2016-05-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Myeongjin

Thanks for your hard work on this. I’ve looked through the changes:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/compare/master...araname:plugin-localisable

Looks good to me. As it’s a big change I think we should defer it until after 
5.1.12 is released; what do you think?

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 11 May 2016, at 10:09, Myeongjin Lee  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeremy,
> 
> I want set directory to two ways for language plugins of plugins, include 
> group tiddlywiki because some user may be not use plugin(s):
> 
> $:/languages/plugins/group/plugin/ko-KR/plugin.i18n.multids, and 
> plugin.info, which commited by me in branch 
> 'plugin-localisable'.$:/languages/plugins/group/ko-KR/plugin.info, 
> and $:/languages/plugins/group/ko-KR/plugin/ plugin.i18n.multids
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Re: [tw] Plugin Localization

2016-05-11 Thread Myeongjin Lee

Hi Jeremy,

I want set directory to two ways for language plugins of plugins, include group 
tiddlywiki because some user may be not use plugin(s):

$:/languages/plugins/group/plugin/ko-KR/plugin.i18n.multids, and 
plugin.info, which commited by me in branch 
'plugin-localisable'.$:/languages/plugins/group/ko-KR/plugin.info, and 
$:/languages/plugins/group/ko-KR/plugin/ plugin.i18n.multids

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Re: [tw] Plugin Localization

2016-05-11 Thread Myeongjin Lee



Hi Jeremy,

I want set directory to two ways for language plugins of plugins, include 
group tiddlywiki because some user may be not use plugin(s):


   - $:/languages/plugins/group/plugin/ko-KR/plugin.i18n.multids, and 
   plugin.info, which commited by me in branch 'plugin-localisable'.
   - $:/languages/plugins/group/ko-KR/plugin.info, and 
   $:/languages/plugins/group/ko-KR/plugin/ plugin.i18n.multids

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[tw] COMMENT: Calls for adding stuff to TW, if added up, would reduce it ...

COMMENT: Calls for adding stuff to TW, if added up, would reduce it to a 
snail carrying a heavy  weight.

I have noticed ...

  1) many requests for TW are ALREADY solved in browsers or browser 
plugins. 

  2) TW's history is liberal waft about, so one DOES witness the 
RE-CREATION OF THE WHEEL OFTEN

  3) But there IS a real cutting edge. Mainly programmers who speak 
Programmese to each other.

  4) EVERYONE is nice. Except me. 

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[tw] tags and carriage returns

2016-05-11 Thread Andy Pastuszak

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but it would be a great 
time saver to be able to deal with tags in a new tiddler with arrow keys 
and carriage returns.

For example, start typing a new tag.  The auto complete list pops up.  You 
arrow down to the tag you want and just hit enter.  For new tags, just type 
the word and hit enter, rather than having to click on the add button.

I think it would speed up my note taking a great deal.

Andy

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Is it safe to edit tiddlers in an external editor?

NOTHING needs adding.other than knowing that the edit box in TW is a 
"textarea".

Editing TEXTAREA is easy ALREADY via browser add-ons in ANY editor you want.

FIREFOX enables it super easy through the  "Its All Text" Addon.  
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/its-all-text/

The LESS we ADD to TiddlyWiki Core Code the better IMO.

Josiah

On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 16:49:33 UTC+2, AlexHough wrote:
>
> Two thoughts:
>
> 1) could there be a button on TW toolbar whcih opened the .tid in a editor?
> 2) Could there be a TW plugin for an editor. For example, a plugin for 
> Sublime which inserted the fields required by Tid files at the top of the 
> file.
>
> bw
>
>
> Alex
>
> On 11 May 2016 at 15:27, TiddlyWiker  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Maybe not exactly relevant to your question but I have found
>>
>> The firefox addon It's All Text 
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/its-all-text/?src=search
>>
>> useful for editing tiddlers.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> TiddlyWiker
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 7:28:30 AM UTC+2, Ruslan Prokopchuk wrote:
>>>
>>> I run TiddlyWiki in --serve mode. Is it safe to edit tiddlers 
>>> externally? Does TW perform any checks and reject / save with new name / or 
>>> whatever for such edited tiddlers?
>>>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyDesktop, multiple monitors and the wiki list window

2016-05-11 Thread Andy Pastuszak

Oh Thank You!

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 8:55:54 PM UTC-4, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) wrote:
>
> Hi, Andy —
>
> I've encountered a similar problem myself.  I can still see TiddlyDesktop 
> in my taskbar (in addition to the icon in the tray), but I can't "find" the 
> window anywhere on my desktop.  What I've been doing is using Task Manager 
> (or Process Explorer, which I prefer) to find TiddlyDesktop in the 
> "Open/Running Applications" list and maximize its window (so I don't have 
> to delete my config folder).
>
> I made a quick screencast to show what I mean:
>
> https://youtu.be/AFo6yP1VJVY
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Re: [tw] Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

2016-05-11 Thread Jan

Hi Stephen,
I guess it was your first assumption: I used the wrong version of TW.
After I imported my own TW into the download of
http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ everything worked fine...

Thanks a lot
Jan

Am 11.05.2016 um 14:28 schrieb 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki:

Jan,

You mentioned that they don't appear in the Control Panel. They should
be on the Control Panel under Appearance - Toolbars - Editor Toolbar
(not Edit Toolbar) at the bottom of the list.

You haven't quite given me enough to work on to figure out exactly
what went wrong for you (for example, you didn't say whether they
appear on the Editor Toolbar or not) so I'm going to try several
possibilities.

1. The plugins only work with TW 5.1.12 which is only available in
pre-release at the moment. If you are working with a copy of
TiddlyWiki that you got from the regular site, your version will be
5.1.11 or earlier. (If you are working with a TiddlyWiki Classic, then
the toolbar functions won't work but many similar functions are
available from Eric's TiddlyTools
(http://www.tiddlytools.com/#QuickEditPlugin ) The editor toolbar
hadn't been developed by version 5.1.11 and so modifications to the
editor toolbar won't work. To check the version of TiddlyWiki you
have, click on the gear shaped icon near the top of the sidebar under
your wiki's title and subtitle. Under the Basics tab under the Info
tab you'll find an entry labelled "TiddlyWiki Version." If that entry
says anything other than *5.1.12-prerelease or **5.1.12 *then you have
an earlier version. TW 5.1.12 should be available vary soon but if
you don't want to wait you can download it from this link:
http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

2. Assuming you are working with 5.1.12, it is possible that what you
downloaded wasn't the plug-in but the tiddler that describes the
plugin. If you find a tiddler called FindReplace in your recent
tiddlers list, there's a good chance that you downloaded the
documentation rather than the plugin. The plugin will have a name like
$:/plugins/sk/FindReplace which won't appear on the Recent list. If
you do an advanced search of System tiddlers for $:/plugins/sk then it
should appear on the list if you downloaded the correct tiddler.

3. When you download a plugin in tiddler, a prompt should appear at
the top of the screen reminding you to save and reload to allow
changes in plugins to take effect. Since the plugins are integrated
into the system files, they won't have any impact until you reload. I
tend to discount this possibility since you would have to ignore the
prompt and leave you wiki running all the time for that to be true.

So, to further diagnose the issue, check the version of TiddlyWiki you
are using and check that the tiddlers $:/plugins/sk/FindReplace and
$:/plugins/sk/Transclude are in the System tiddlers list.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 4:29:25 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote:

Hello Stephen,
thanks for these great enhancments, they really are what I needed
for long.
Do you have to Install or change a formatting Tiddler to install them?
I installed $:/plugins/sk/FindReplaceand $:/plugins/sk/Transclude

but they do not appear in the controlPanel yet...

Thanks for the plugins and the help
Jan

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How list current tags but excepting some of them

2016-05-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I think "get" must return everything as one string rather than a list of 
objects. I notice that the <> appears on one line, even if you insert 
a . But  this seems to work:

[tags[]] -[[aa]]


Mark

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 5:46:42 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Gaaah! This is just driving me crazy! I simply want to:
>
>  list the current tiddlers tags with some of them removed so I can perform 
> operations with the remaining ones.
>
> As illustrated here (except this doesn't work)
>
>
> <$list filter="[get[tags]remove[aa]]" variable="item">
> <>
> 
>
> One reason why it doesn't work is, I think, because "remove" is a listop 
> and the previous step is not in list form. But then... 
>
> "[list[{currentTiddler!!tags}]] +[remove[aa]]"
>
> ...doesn't work either. Nor do a big bunch of other combos I've tried.
>
> I wish to avoid nested listings.
>
> ATM I only neet do remove one tag (here "aa").from the list
>
>
> Please help.
>
>
> <:-)
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Is it safe to edit tiddlers in an external editor?

2016-05-11 Thread Alex Hough

Two thoughts:

1) could there be a button on TW toolbar whcih opened the .tid in a editor?
2) Could there be a TW plugin for an editor. For example, a plugin for
Sublime which inserted the fields required by Tid files at the top of the
file.

bw


Alex

On 11 May 2016 at 15:27, TiddlyWiker  wrote:

>
> Maybe not exactly relevant to your question but I have found
>
> The firefox addon It's All Text
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/its-all-text/?src=search
>
> useful for editing tiddlers.
>
> Regards,
>
> TiddlyWiker
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 7:28:30 AM UTC+2, Ruslan Prokopchuk wrote:
>>
>> I run TiddlyWiki in --serve mode. Is it safe to edit tiddlers externally?
>> Does TW perform any checks and reject / save with new name / or whatever
>> for such edited tiddlers?
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is it safe to edit tiddlers in an external editor?

2016-05-11 Thread TiddlyWiker


Maybe not exactly relevant to your question but I have found

The firefox addon It's All Text 

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/its-all-text/?src=search

useful for editing tiddlers.

Regards,

TiddlyWiker
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> I run TiddlyWiki in --serve mode. Is it safe to edit tiddlers externally? 
> Does TW perform any checks and reject / save with new name / or whatever 
> for such edited tiddlers?
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[tw] Re: [TW5] How list current tags but excepting some of them

2016-05-11 Thread magev958

Doesn't

-[tag[aa]]

work?

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[tw] Re: Set widget attributes remotely?

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:24:13 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> I'm still curious about eventual possibilities to overwrite widget 
> attributes remotely. Just like any other parameter, it doesn't always make 
> sense to replace the whole tiddler.
>

As you pointed out. I don't see a way to do it, in other ways as I did 
describe it. 
-m

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[tw] Re: [TWC] LessBackupsPlugin alternative for rotating backup

2016-05-11 Thread BJ


its a tiddlywiki classic plugin - it needs to be copied into a new tiddler 
and tagged with sytemConfig

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 1:45:41 PM UTC+1, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>
> BJ, Sounds great, looks erm ... like computer code. HOW does a mortal use 
> it? :-) Josiah, x
>
> BJ wrote:
>>
>> Hi Julien,
>> I wrote a simple backup plugin that works when using tiddlyfox:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlywikiplugins/blob/master/simplyLessBackups.js
>>
>> maybe it could be of help to you,
>>  
>>
>>

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[tw] [TW5] How list current tags but excepting some of them

Gaaah! This is just driving me crazy! I simply want to:

 list the current tiddlers tags with some of them removed so I can perform 
operations with the remaining ones.

As illustrated here (except this doesn't work)


<$list filter="[get[tags]remove[aa]]" variable="item">
<>


One reason why it doesn't work is, I think, because "remove" is a listop 
and the previous step is not in list form. But then... 

"[list[{currentTiddler!!tags}]] +[remove[aa]]"

...doesn't work either. Nor do a big bunch of other combos I've tried.

I wish to avoid nested listings.

ATM I only neet do remove one tag (here "aa").from the list


Please help.


<:-)


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[tw] Re: [TWC] LessBackupsPlugin alternative for rotating backup

BJ, Sounds great, looks erm ... like computer code. HOW does a mortal use 
it? :-) Josiah, x

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>
> Hi Julien,
> I wrote a simple backup plugin that works when using tiddlyfox:
>
>
> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlywikiplugins/blob/master/simplyLessBackups.js
>
> maybe it could be of help to you,
>  
>
>

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Re: [tw] Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

2016-05-11 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki

Jan,

You mentioned that they don't appear in the Control Panel. They should be 
on the Control Panel under Appearance - Toolbars - Editor Toolbar (not Edit 
Toolbar) at the bottom of the list. 

You haven't quite given me enough to work on to figure out exactly what 
went wrong for you (for example, you didn't say whether they appear on the 
Editor Toolbar or not) so I'm going to try several possibilities. 

1. The plugins only work with TW 5.1.12 which is only available in 
pre-release at the moment. If you are working with a copy of TiddlyWiki 
that you got from the regular site, your version will be 5.1.11 or earlier. 
(If you are working with a TiddlyWiki Classic, then the toolbar functions 
won't work but many similar functions are available from Eric's TiddlyTools 
(http://www.tiddlytools.com/#QuickEditPlugin ) The editor toolbar hadn't 
been developed by version 5.1.11 and so modifications to the editor toolbar 
won't work. To check the version of TiddlyWiki you have, click on the gear 
shaped icon near the top of the sidebar under your wiki's title and 
subtitle. Under the Basics tab under the Info tab you'll find an entry 
labelled "TiddlyWiki Version." If that entry says anything other than 
*5.1.12-prerelease 
or **5.1.12 *then you have an earlier version.  TW 5.1.12 should be 
available vary soon but if you don't want to wait you can download it from 
this link: http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ 

2. Assuming you are working with 5.1.12, it is possible that what you 
downloaded wasn't the plug-in but the tiddler that describes the plugin. If 
you find a tiddler called FindReplace in your recent tiddlers list, there's 
a good chance that you downloaded the documentation rather than the plugin. 
The plugin will have a name like $:/plugins/sk/FindReplace which won't 
appear on the Recent list. If you do an advanced search of System tiddlers 
for $:/plugins/sk then it should appear on the list if you downloaded the 
correct tiddler.

3. When you download a plugin in tiddler, a prompt should appear at the top 
of the screen reminding you to save and reload to allow changes in plugins 
to take effect. Since the plugins are integrated into the system files, 
they won't have any impact until you reload. I tend to discount this 
possibility since you would have to ignore the prompt and leave you wiki 
running all the time for that to be true.

So, to further diagnose the issue, check the version of TiddlyWiki you are 
using and check that the tiddlers $:/plugins/sk/FindReplace and 
$:/plugins/sk/Transclude are in the System tiddlers list. 

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 4:29:25 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello Stephen,
> thanks for these great enhancments, they really are what I needed for long.
> Do you have to Install or change a formatting Tiddler to install them?
> I installed $:/plugins/sk/FindReplace and $:/plugins/sk/Transclude 
> 
>  
> but they do not appear in the controlPanel yet...
>
> Thanks for the plugins and the help
> Jan
>
>

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[tw] Re: Set widget attributes remotely?


>
> what do you think?


I think you make a lot of sense (even if it's not really an answer to my 
question, of course). However, there is another important aspect with the 
officially provided configurations: there is a sense of uncertainty when 
making changes in shadow tiddlers that there are systemic consequences one 
cannot predict from merely looking at the immediate tiddler code, i.e that 
depends on where the tiddler is called from and used etc. "Official 
configurations" provide quality assurance.

BUT, spontaneously, I'd guess many such official configurations could work 
as well as separate *plugins*. Or, more big picture, I think it would be 
better with a "standard edition", a "bare bones edition" etc and a wide 
range of "system plugins". (The config settings could even be a styled *plugin 
library* so "configuring" really means to download the plugin, at least the 
first time.) 

...but as we know, this is a matter of administrative infrastructure and 
would, fully understandably, cause too much burden on Jeremy. As I conclude 
so often, I believe TWederation will solve this because one could download 
configurations from people one trusts and get the noted sense of quality 
assurance.



[...] every change to a template is requested to be configurable. ... I 
> think we reached a point, where we have so many configuration options, that 
> it already hurts the project, due to its complexity. Every new parameter, 
> that can be configured, increases this complexity and imo also makes TW 
> slow. ...
>

Do we know there is a significant time impact from the configuration 
settings? From the 1292 shadow tiddlers you refer to, surely only a 
fraction are configuration options. And I would think most of them are 
about fetching a field value (right?). Is this really a significant time 
consumer? In a hangout you mentioned "lists in lists" which I think has a 
substantially (exponentially!) higher impact.


 

> For me the problem is that users are afraid to change shadow tiddlers, 
> which *contradicts their existence*. 
>

 That is a very good point! Shadow tiddlers are constructed to permit 
overwriting!


 

> So the proposal is: 
> 
>
>  - The TW update mechanism should detect this problem.
>  - It should tell the user, that s/he changed aaa, bbb, ccc, templates. 
>  - It should be able to tell the differences. So the user can see and 
> decide, if the manual changes are still valid. 
>

I agree this would be very useful! It could also alert when importing 
modified shadow tiddlers e.g as part of a plugin (...Or is one already 
alerted about this? Cant' remember.)

...

I'm still curious about eventual possibilities to overwrite widget 
attributes remotely. Just like any other parameter, it doesn't always make 
sense to replace the whole tiddler.


Thanks for input Mario. Your thoughts should probably be a discussion 
thread on it's own with it's own title for findability.


<:-)

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[tw] Re: Reordering TOC's and other things.

2016-05-11 Thread Ste Wilson

Ah!  Of course.  Thanks for that and I'll have a look at that plugin!.

On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 11:49:24 UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>
>
> Hi Stephen,
> you need to add the 'list' field to the tiddler TableOfContents (not 
> 'Table Of Contents' as at present) as this is the tag you are using.
>
> If you are re-ordering your toc a lot you might want to try the taglist 
> plugin to re-order by drag and drop - its at http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com
>
> all the best BJ
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 11:10:07 AM UTC+1, Ste Wilson wrote:
>>
>> After asking about this sometime ago the solution was to include a 'list' 
>> field and then put the Tiddler names in the required order and all was well.
>> However, this now doesn't seem to do anything.  I have added new Tiddlers 
>> to the contents and want them to also be ordered but the stubbornly remain 
>> in alphabetical order.
>>
>> http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/#Table%20of%20Contents
>>
>> I have the list field containing
>>  [[A Site Map]] [[Quick Reference]] Definitions Statics Kinematics [[Unit 
>> 5]] [[Unit 11]] [[Unit 15]] About
>>
>> But the order of the TOC is not that.
>>
>> I'm sure it's an obvious and simple solution butHELP!!!???
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Reordering TOC's and other things.

2016-05-11 Thread BJ


Hi Stephen,
you need to add the 'list' field to the tiddler TableOfContents as this is 
the tag you are using.

If you are re-ordering your toc a lot you might want to try the taglist 
plugin to re-order by drag and drop - its at http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com

all the best BJ



On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 11:10:07 AM UTC+1, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> After asking about this sometime ago the solution was to include a 'list' 
> field and then put the Tiddler names in the required order and all was well.
> However, this now doesn't seem to do anything.  I have added new Tiddlers 
> to the contents and want them to also be ordered but the stubbornly remain 
> in alphabetical order.
>
> http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/#Table%20of%20Contents
>
> I have the list field containing
>  [[A Site Map]] [[Quick Reference]] Definitions Statics Kinematics [[Unit 
> 5]] [[Unit 11]] [[Unit 15]] About
>
> But the order of the TOC is not that.
>
> I'm sure it's an obvious and simple solution butHELP!!!???
>
> Stephen
>
> http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/
>

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[tw] Reordering TOC's and other things.

2016-05-11 Thread Ste Wilson

After asking about this sometime ago the solution was to include a 'list' 
field and then put the Tiddler names in the required order and all was well.
However, this now doesn't seem to do anything.  I have added new Tiddlers 
to the contents and want them to also be ordered but the stubbornly remain 
in alphabetical order.

http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/#Table%20of%20Contents

I have the list field containing
 [[A Site Map]] [[Quick Reference]] Definitions Statics Kinematics [[Unit 5
]] [[Unit 11]] [[Unit 15]] About

But the order of the TOC is not that.

I'm sure it's an obvious and simple solution butHELP!!!???

Stephen

http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw] Re: [TWC] LessBackupsPlugin alternative for rotating backup

2016-05-11 Thread BJ

Hi Julien,
I wrote a simple backup plugin that works when using tiddlyfox:

https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlywikiplugins/blob/master/simplyLessBackups.js

maybe it could be of help to you,

https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlywikiplugins/blob/master/simplyLessBackups.js

all the best
BJ

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 8:19:12 AM UTC+1, julien23 wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> We use TW in synced folders (sugarsync).
> Sometime the TW would not sync fast enough, and having a backup TW to 
> fetch missing modifications is a nice thing :
>
> [IncludeList]
> <>
> <>
> <>
> <>
> <>
>
> Today I need to manually rename autobackups to "index 1, 2, 3 ..."
>
> LessBackupsPlugin used to give the possibility of rotating backup, but it 
> is no longer compatible with modern browsers.
>
> What Alternative would you suggest ?
>
> Regards
>
> Julien
>
>
>

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[tw] Rearrange tiddlers/draggable Tiddlers

2016-05-11 Thread Jan


Hello,
Because I work a lot with stories, I miss a lot the function Eric`s 
rearrangeTiddlers plugin brought to TWClassic 
(http://tiddlytools.com/#RearrangeTiddlersPlugin).

How close is the realisation of the plan to make tiddlers draggable?
Is there a plugin fulfillling this purpose so far?

Best greetings Jan

Am 19.01.2014 um 22:12 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

Hi RA

You can set $:/DefaultTiddlers to "[list[$:/StoryList]]", which will 
cause TiddlyWiki to startup with the previous story sequence.


The plan is also to make the tiddlers in the story list draggable.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM, RA <8pa...@gmail.com 
> wrote:


Most of the times I want to have my tiddlers arranged in a certain
order. I couldn't think of anyhing better than to keep editing
DefaultTiddlers or to carefully close and reopen them so they are
arranged. Does anyone have a better workflow? I wish I could just
drag a tiddler by it's title...
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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to enable wikilinks in codeblocks?

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:01:46 AM UTC+2, Ruslan Prokopchuk wrote:
>
> The point of using links is to not transclude referenced chunks on the 
> render, but only during the tangling process. Usually, you want to read 
> literate code folded, but with an ability to jump quickly to included 
> chunks.
>

I know. ... But your "hacky" parser doesn't need to create a transclusion 
for {{xxx}} it just creates a link. So your regexp needs to be changed a 
little bit.  ... But my code snippet can be tangled with TW and some "to be 
done" templates out of the box, which imo would be a big win. 

-m


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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to enable wikilinks in codeblocks?

2016-05-11 Thread Ruslan Prokopchuk

But yes, if I'm using a custom parser anyway, I can treat transclusion as 
links on the render, and as transclusion on the export! Thank you for the 
idea!

среда, 11 мая 2016 г., 11:01:46 UTC+3 пользователь Ruslan Prokopchuk 
написал:
>
> The point of using links is to not transclude referenced chunks on the 
> render, but only during the tangling process. Usually, you want to read 
> literate code folded, but with an ability to jump quickly to included 
> chunks.
>
> среда, 11 мая 2016 г., 10:41:53 UTC+3 пользователь PMario написал:
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 9:30:54 AM UTC+2, Ruslan Prokopchuk wrote:
>>>
>>> Mario is right, \rules solution doesn't work well in my situation. I've 
>>> spent entire morning playing with it, but decided to write custom parser: 
>>> https://gist.github.com/ul/bdd6c6d6715b8ed36348304c973a91af
>>> Custom parser is better than custom widget because you not only get 
>>> links, but proper reference handling, missing, orphans etc.
>>>
>>
>> Your literate programming approach is very interesting. 
>>
>> If you use {{Included chunk name}} instead of [[Included chunk name]] it 
>> should be possible to create tangled source output out of the box, with 
>> some custom rendering templates. 
>>
>> So your code snippet would look like this:
>>
>> ```
>> function parentChunk() {
>>   console.log("let's include another chunk below");
>>   {{Included chunk name}}
>> }
>> ```
>>
>>
>> just some thoughts. 
>>
>> -mario
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to enable wikilinks in codeblocks?

2016-05-11 Thread Ruslan Prokopchuk

The point of using links is to not transclude referenced chunks on the 
render, but only during the tangling process. Usually, you want to read 
literate code folded, but with an ability to jump quickly to included 
chunks.

среда, 11 мая 2016 г., 10:41:53 UTC+3 пользователь PMario написал:
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 9:30:54 AM UTC+2, Ruslan Prokopchuk wrote:
>>
>> Mario is right, \rules solution doesn't work well in my situation. I've 
>> spent entire morning playing with it, but decided to write custom parser: 
>> https://gist.github.com/ul/bdd6c6d6715b8ed36348304c973a91af
>> Custom parser is better than custom widget because you not only get 
>> links, but proper reference handling, missing, orphans etc.
>>
>
> Your literate programming approach is very interesting. 
>
> If you use {{Included chunk name}} instead of [[Included chunk name]] it 
> should be possible to create tangled source output out of the box, with 
> some custom rendering templates. 
>
> So your code snippet would look like this:
>
> ```
> function parentChunk() {
>   console.log("let's include another chunk below");
>   {{Included chunk name}}
> }
> ```
>
>
> just some thoughts. 
>
> -mario
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is it safe to edit tiddlers in an external editor?

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 7:28:30 AM UTC+2, Ruslan Prokopchuk wrote:
>
> I run TiddlyWiki in --serve mode. Is it safe to edit tiddlers externally? 
> Does TW perform any checks and reject / save with new name / or whatever 
> for such edited tiddlers?
>

yes, but the server doesn't recognise any changes. So you need to reload 
the browser window, to get updates. 

I did create a "proof of concept" workflow that was discussed in a hangout. 
It creates a statically rendered languages landing page, which does the 
automatic reload, if a tiddler is changed. 

You may have a look at: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/languages and the 
package.json 

The "devDependencies" use watch and live-reload as you can see. Something 
similar could be included into index.html too. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to enable wikilinks in codeblocks?

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 9:30:54 AM UTC+2, Ruslan Prokopchuk wrote:
>
> Mario is right, \rules solution doesn't work well in my situation. I've 
> spent entire morning playing with it, but decided to write custom parser: 
> https://gist.github.com/ul/bdd6c6d6715b8ed36348304c973a91af
> Custom parser is better than custom widget because you not only get links, 
> but proper reference handling, missing, orphans etc.
>

Your literate programming approach is very interesting. 

If you use {{Included chunk name}} instead of [[Included chunk name]] it 
should be possible to create tangled source output out of the box, with 
some custom rendering templates. 

So your code snippet would look like this:

```
function parentChunk() {
  console.log("let's include another chunk below");
  {{Included chunk name}}
}
```


just some thoughts. 

-mario

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[tw] Re: Set widget attributes remotely?

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 9:48:09 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> I suspect the answer is negative to this but then maybe it's an idea for a 
> plugin for the js-wizards;
>

You are probably right :)

> [For possible beginners here; the reason for not wanting to overwrite 
> shadow tiddlers (i.e components of plugins) is that it they don't reflect 
> updates then.]
>

This is a valid concern, but the problem isn't as big, as it was when TW 
was in alpha or beta stage. alphas and betas changed the templates quite a 
lot and this caused trouble for some early adopters. Now the templates are 
much more stable and Jeremy only applies changes the are backwards 
compatible. ... But there is still a possibility, that you miss core 
changes, if you edit templates. ... 

Imo the reason, why shadow tiddlers exist and are exposed is, that they 
should be changed by experienced users. But at the moment the community 
seems to be paralysed and afraid to do so. So every change to a template is 
requested to be configurable. ... I think we reached a point, where we have 
so many configuration options, that it already hurts the project, due to 
its complexity. Every new parameter, that can be configured, increases this 
complexity and imo also makes TW slow. ... It's not one parameter that 
hurts, but it's all of them together. An empty TW has 1292 shadow tiddlers. 
I think configuration options is "fighting the symptoms" and not solving a 
problem. 

For me the problem is that users are afraid to change shadow tiddlers, 
which contradicts their existence. 

So the proposal is: 

 - The TW update mechanism should detect this problem.
 - It should tell the user, that s/he changed aaa, bbb, ccc, templates. 
 - It should be able to tell the differences. So the user can see and 
decide, if the manual changes are still valid. 

... The result would be, that no user has to be afraid of changing shadow 
tiddlers.

We already have mechanisms, that can list all shadow tiddlers, that have 
been changed. We just don't have a mechanism, that shows us the differences 
in an easy and consumable way.

what do you think?

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to enable wikilinks in codeblocks?

2016-05-11 Thread Ruslan Prokopchuk

Mario is right, \rules solution doesn't work well in my situation. I've 
spent entire morning playing with it, but decided to write custom 
parser: https://gist.github.com/ul/bdd6c6d6715b8ed36348304c973a91af
Custom parser is better than custom widget because you not only get links, 
but proper reference handling, missing, orphans etc.

вторник, 10 мая 2016 г., 19:51:48 UTC+3 пользователь Ruslan Prokopchuk 
написал:
>
> Hi!
>
> I think TiddlyWiki fits perfectly for literate programming. The only thing 
> I miss (except tangling sources for passing to the compiler, but it is easy 
> implemented as an external tool) is an ability to support wikilinks in 
> codeblocks. I mean that stuff like that:
>
> ```
> function parentChunk() {
>   console.log("let's include another chunk below");
>   // [[Included chunk name]]
> }
> ```
>
> to be rendered as
>
> function parentChunk() {
>   console.log("let's include another chunk below");
>   // Included chunk name   < link to the tiddler!  tags 
> are allowed inside  and  ones AFAIK
> }
>
> Is it possible to shadow codeblock macro to add support for that? How to 
> do that?
>
>

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[tw] [TWC] LessBackupsPlugin alternative for rotating backup

2016-05-11 Thread julien23

Hi all

We use TW in synced folders (sugarsync).
Sometime the TW would not sync fast enough, and having a backup TW to fetch 
missing modifications is a nice thing :

[IncludeList]
<>
<>
<>
<>
<>

Today I need to manually rename autobackups to "index 1, 2, 3 ..."

LessBackupsPlugin used to give the possibility of rotating backup, but it 
is no longer compatible with modern browsers.

What Alternative would you suggest ?

Regards

Julien


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Re: [tw] [TW5] How to enable wikilinks in codeblocks?