[tw] Re: Tagging a tiddler and changing color field in one move

[Matabele]

Hi

Unfortunately, the box widths and sizes are set with css styles. Although 
this worked fro the version used on the demo site -- the css has been 
messed up for more recent editions of TW5.

regards

On Monday, 20 February 2017 21:29:21 UTC+2, dlu...@emich.edu wrote:
>
> Matbele,
>
> I just discovered your simple tagger and really like it. 
>
> I'm wondering, however, if you can tell me why the height of the 
> add/remove input text box in my wiki is so much taller than yours? See 
> images below.
>
> Mine
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--xy6oko5Y3A/WKtC_SEa4eI/A-s/nR08_WC4dcMtrwDtRmgcNBCfwrcU7hBywCLcB/s1600/5991849313697792.png>
>
>
> Yours
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Gyho126oCk4/WKtDFRs20aI/A-w/3vly5sfXStoHKsFkiUC1GxoHQ7b3syrFACLcB/s1600/5838171759968256.jpg>
>
>
> Do you know what controls this and how to adjust it?
>
>
> I did not make any changes to your plugin. Just imported via drag and drop 
> import.
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 2:51:28 PM UTC-5, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jo
>>
>> Have a look at simple tagger <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/> -- 
>> might meet your requirements.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:12:24 UTC+2, jen...@googlemail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I like the easy tagging method with Eucalys PopupTagger. Now I have the 
>>> case that I want to change the color field of a tiddler corresponding with 
>>> the tag.
>>>
>>> PopupTagger itself just switches the tag. I thought about a conditional 
>>> template for setting the color, but this only changes the view, not the 
>>> tiddler itself. I know that I probably could use the action-setfield widget 
>>> in combination with a button. But I would like to set the color in the 
>>> background, not with an additional button for what PopupTagger already does.
>>>
>>> Has anyone an idea?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jo
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Can the MakeTid Widget be used to create tiddlers from a list in conjunction with a tiddler template

[Matabele]

Hi r

As far as I remember, the ActionSetfield widget may also be used in 
conjunction with a widget message to open the new tiddlers for editing.

regards

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 02:31:16 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi J Mc and Tobias
>
> I can give a kind of general answer.
>
> The ActionSetfield widget may be used by way of a hack to create new 
> tiddlers silently in the background, since setting the value of a field of 
> a non-existent tiddler currently results in the missing tiddler being 
> created quietly in the background. However, this did not fit all of my 
> requirements, hence the ActionMaketid widget -- some quick notes:
> -- There is no option to open the list of new tiddlers in the story river 
> nor open the list of tiddlers for editing (or indeed, with two 
> ActionMaketid widgets, some mix of the three scenarios).
> -- The ActionMaketid widget came derived from a line of widgets whose 
> purpose was the creation of multipurpose buttons
> -- The ActionMaketid widget requires a list of titles as input (and can 
> create simple series of tiddlers, such as indexed with an integer on its 
> own)
> -- I cut down one of Tobias widgets to be used for more complex cases
> -- There may be cases where the ActionSetfield method is either sufficient 
> or superior to the MakeTid method
> -- I began be using the ActionSetfield (actually my old SetField widget) 
> method to create tiddlers by default and wrote the ActionMaketid to do some 
> things impossible with the ActionSetfield method
> -- nowadays I tend to try the ActionMaketid first (its made for the 
> purpose)
>
> regards
>
> On Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:31:25 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>
>> Hi J,
>>
>> As far as I can see, it cannot, since it provides
>> the button itself rather act like other ActionWidgets 
>> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionWidgets>.
>>
>> However, you can use tobibeer/make 
>> <http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#make> and tobibeer/split 
>> <http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#split>
>> alongside the WidgetMessage: tm-new-tiddler 
>> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-new-tiddler> like so:
>>
>> <$set name="titleFoo" filter="[[foo]make[%title% %date% \ 
>> date-format:-0MM-0DD]split[ ]]">
>> <$set name="titleBar" filter="[[bar]make[%title% %date% \ 
>> date-format:0hh:0mm:0ss]split[ ]]">
>> <$button>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
>> tags="Foo" text=<>/>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
>> tags="Bar" text=<>/>
>> Create two tiddlers in edit-mode
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Alternatively, you can use the ActionSetFieldWidget 
>> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionSetFieldWidget> instead,
>> to create the tiddlers silently, w/o EditMode:
>>
>> <$set name="titleFoo" filter="[[foo]make[%title% %date% \ 
>> date-format:-0MM-0DD]split[ ]]">
>> <$set name="titleBar" filter="[[bar]make[%title% %date% \ 
>> date-format:0hh:0mm:0ss]split[ ]]">
>> <$button>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<>
>> text=<>
>> tags="Foo"/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<>
>> text=<>
>> tags="Bar"/>
>> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
>> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
>> Create two tiddlers silently and open them
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> You can try the above examples directly at:
>>
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Can the MakeTid Widget be used to create tiddlers from a list in conjunction with a tiddler template

[Matabele]

Hi J Mc and Tobias

I can give a kind of general answer.

The ActionSetfield widget may be used by way of a hack to create new 
tiddlers silently in the background, since setting the value of a field of 
a non-existent tiddler currently results in the missing tiddler being 
created quietly in the background. However, this did not fit all of my 
requirements, hence the ActionMaketid widget -- some quick notes:
-- There is no option to open the list of new tiddlers in the story river 
nor open the list of tiddlers for editing (or indeed, with two 
ActionMaketid widgets, some mix of the three scenarios).
-- The ActionMaketid widget came derived from a line of widgets whose 
purpose was the creation of multipurpose buttons
-- The ActionMaketid widget requires a list of titles as input (and can 
create simple series of tiddlers, such as indexed with an integer on its 
own)
-- I cut down one of Tobias widgets to be used for more complex cases
-- There may be cases where the ActionSetfield method is either sufficient 
or superior to the MakeTid method
-- I began be using the ActionSetfield (actually my old SetField widget) 
method to create tiddlers by default and wrote the ActionMaketid to do some 
things impossible with the ActionSetfield method
-- nowadays I tend to try the ActionMaketid first (its made for the purpose)

regards

On Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:31:25 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi J,
>
> As far as I can see, it cannot, since it provides
> the button itself rather act like other ActionWidgets 
> .
>
> However, you can use tobibeer/make 
>  and tobibeer/split 
> 
> alongside the WidgetMessage: tm-new-tiddler 
>  like so:
>
> <$set name="titleFoo" filter="[[foo]make[%title% %date% \ 
> date-format:-0MM-0DD]split[ ]]">
> <$set name="titleBar" filter="[[bar]make[%title% %date% \ 
> date-format:0hh:0mm:0ss]split[ ]]">
> <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
> tags="Foo" text=<>/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
> tags="Bar" text=<>/>
> Create two tiddlers in edit-mode
> 
> 
> 
>
> Alternatively, you can use the ActionSetFieldWidget 
>  instead,
> to create the tiddlers silently, w/o EditMode:
>
> <$set name="titleFoo" filter="[[foo]make[%title% %date% \ 
> date-format:-0MM-0DD]split[ ]]">
> <$set name="titleBar" filter="[[bar]make[%title% %date% \ 
> date-format:0hh:0mm:0ss]split[ ]]">
> <$button>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<>
> text=<>
> tags="Foo"/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<>
> text=<>
> tags="Bar"/>
> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
> Create two tiddlers silently and open them
> 
> 
> 
>
> You can try the above examples directly at:
>
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: How to do an exact match of tags

[Matabele]

Hi

There are a few examples of selecting by tag combinations here 
.

regards

On Tuesday, 29 November 2016 05:00:06 UTC+2, steve wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> Does anyone know of a way to do an exact tag match, i.e., there is a one 
> to one correspondence between the tags specified in the filter and the 
> matching tiddlers.
>
> For example for tidders Tom (tagged A), Dick (tagged A, B) and Harry 
> (tagged A, B and C), a filter search for [tag[A]] would return Tom (but not 
> Dick or Harry) and a filter search for [tag[A]tag[B]] would return Dick 
> (but not Harry). The only way that I can think of so far would be to use 
> javascript to compare the contents of the tags field.
>
> The use case is to be able to generate a list of matching tiddlers for 
> each unique group of tags. I have a macro to do this by first doing sorting 
> the tags in place for each tiddler;  sorting the tiddlers by the tags field 
> (i.e., sort[tags]); and then listing each tiddler name followed by its 
> corresponding tag pills. I am trying to stretch my tiddlywiki horizons by 
> finding a way to do this while listing each unique combination of tags only 
> once followed by list of tiddlers that have that exact combination of tags.
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: creating site from tiddlywiki with multiple browseable pages

[Matabele]

Hi rootsical

Some time ago I put up this site  -- the 
layout uses an alternative pop up menu that makes the site work in a more 
standard way.

Numerous tweaks were, however, required to achieve this.

regards

On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 12:16:17 UTC+2, rootsical wrote:
>
> hi. 
>
> i was wondering if it was possible to create a website from a tiddlywiki, 
> which has separate browsable pages for each tiddler. 
>
> i love how easy it is to use tiddlywiki but from a presentation and 
> useability aspect, i find the single page idea not to my taste. i much 
> prefer how mediawiki presents its pages with real url links to navigate. 
>
> i have installed tiddlywiki using npm (for use with node.js).  i am aware 
> of the commands for exporting to a static site. however, i am not sure a 
> static site is what i am after. i have no problem with the use of 
> javascript but just want separate browseable pages. the current output of 
> exporting as a static site seems to disable the ability to click on any of 
> the buttons to do anything. i cannot browse or use the tiddlywiki as 
> normal. i assume this is because pure html link tags are not being 
> generated and/or javascript seems to be completely missing/disabled.
>
> can anybody let me know if it is possible to achieve what i am after, and 
> if so, how?
>
> many thanks.
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Question about generating tiddlers from dictionary tiddler.

[Matabele]

Hi Danielo

Yes -- it contains bits of code from the ActionSetfield and ActionListops 
widgets -- then a bit left over from my old MakeTid widget and gets a great 
big boost from Tobias's make[] filter. Actually, Tobias's filter was the 
inspiration for rewriting the widget -- essentially, because the filter can 
pre-generate titles, the widget could be re-written as an action widget.

regards

On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 11:20:41 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
>
>
> El miércoles, 7 de septiembre de 2016, 8:26:15 (UTC+2), Matabele escribió:
>>
>> Hi Rizwan
>>
>> I created a plugin for precisely this purpose -- head over to the MakeTid 
>> plugin wiki <http://maketid.tiddlyspot.com/> to see some examples. 
>>
>> I put this up in a hurry for someone else -- there are brief docs in the 
>> Preferences/Plugins tab. The maketid[] filter is a stripped down version of 
>> Tobias's make[] filter -- this works together with the Maketid widget to 
>> create one or more tiddlers with a single button click. For your purposes, 
>> feed the list of titles into the maktid[] filter.
>>
>
> This is a beautiful shortcut! Correct me if I'm wrong but it's like 
> merging the action-setfield widget, action-listops and action-navigate, 
> right?
>
> Regards 
>

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[tw] Re: Question about generating tiddlers from dictionary tiddler.

[Matabele]

Hi Rizwan

I created a plugin for precisely this purpose -- head over to the MakeTid 
plugin wiki  to see some examples. 

I put this up in a hurry for someone else -- there are brief docs in the 
Preferences/Plugins tab. The maketid[] filter is a stripped down version of 
Tobias's make[] filter -- this works together with the Maketid widget to 
create one or more tiddlers with a single button click. For your purposes, 
feed the list of titles into the maktid[] filter.

regards

On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:28:10 UTC+2, Rizwan Ishak wrote:
>
>
>
> This contains several questions, please be patient.
>
>
>
> Say, there is a dictionary tiddler with title "*Fruits*" and having 
> content.
>
> Apple:Red
> Mango:Yellow
> Grapes:Purple
> Watermelon:Green
>
>
> I am trying to generate, on a single button click, four tiddlers with 
> titles Apple, Mango, Grapes and Watermelon.
>
> With the code
> <$button>
> <$list filter="[title[Fruits]indexes[]]" variable="index"> 
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title="<>"/>
> Multiple Tiddlers, Yay!!
> 
>
> I was able to generate drafts of 4 tiddlers with the required names. But I 
> didn't want them to open for editing or appear in the storyriver - just be 
> created silently.
> I tried using make plugin from Tobibeer as
>
> <$button>
> <$list filter="[title[data]indexes[]sort[title]]" variable="index"> 
> <$action-setfield $field=notetext $value=<> />   
> > coz I read 'make' plugin won't accept anything but 
> default macros. 
> <$list filter="[[]make[{{!!notetext}}]]"/>
> 
> Multiple Tiddlers, Yay!!
> 
>
>
> | am not quite  sure I nailed that syntax. I am not even sure this is how 
> to use it. 
>
>
> Questions
> 1. The button widget attribute set/setTo which will allow you to generate 
> a new tiddler silently given that no tiddler target is given and set=title 
> is specified, how do I replicate the same here? Or is there some other way? 
> I guess that way I can store most of my read only data in a dictionary 
> format and generate tiddlers only when necessary. 
> 2. List filter in the above codes as "[title[Fruits]getindex[]]" returns 
> absolutely nothing. If I understand correnctly, it should return the other 
> side of colon, right? May I know what am I doing wrong?
> 3. Can there be something like "Stupid Questions Saturday" or something 
> where absolute noobs can ask questions without fearing to be a botheration?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Using tm-add-tag to add a tag to a newly made tiddler

[Matabele]

Hi Taylor

If you wish to make one or more new tiddlers with fancy titles and several 
field values set -- perhaps employ the MakeTid plugin from here. 


I put this up in a bit of a hurry for someone else -- there are brief docs 
for the plugin available from the docs in 'ControlPanel/Plugins' tab and a 
couple of examples on the wiki.

regards

On Saturday, 3 September 2016 22:06:05 UTC+2, Taylor Jensen wrote:
>
> I have
>
> <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title="note" tags="note" 
> text=<>/>
> <$fieldmangler tiddler="note">
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param={{Active Production}}/>
> 
> Test Button
> 
>
> Both parts work on their own, but even though the fieldmangler widget is 
> set to modify the "note" tiddler, it won't do it unless "note" already 
> exists (ie the button didn't just make it). 
>
> Any thoughts on why that's the case and how to make it work correctly?
>
> -TCJ
>

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[tw] Re: A List of Checkboxes that will delete and add tags to Tiddlers

[Matabele]

Hi Drake

Option 1: If you wish to cycle through a list of alternative tags, say 'In 
Progress --> Revisions Needed --> Completed' -- there is a possible 
solution over on the ActionListops wiki 

Scroll through the slides to 'keep Operator (Examples), then scroll down to 
the bottom example. Each click of one of a tag will select the next option 
in the list.

This functionality requires a couple of filters which aren't yet in the 
core -- you will need to copy over the extended listops filters from the 
wiki.

Option 2: (if you prefer checkboxes) you might make use of the CheckList 
widget  -- there are a few examples on 
the wiki -- unfortunately, none match your exact requirements. 

I think the functionality of the cycle[] and keep[] operators would be 
required (from Option 1) to clear the last tag selected -- fake checkboxes 
could always be used instead of the tag buttons.

regards

On Saturday, 3 September 2016 18:30:38 UTC+2, Drake Shadwell wrote:
>
> I use Tiddly Wiki for a lot different journals, projects, etc... I like to 
> write, revise, complete. I would like to have that in a list on my home 
> screen. Right now I have it so that it will compile a list of Tiddlers that 
> do NOT have a tag and then when the check box is checked it will add that 
> tag to the Tiddler. However, what I want is for it to have a list of 
> Tiddlers with a tag (let's say "Journal") and a tag of something like "In 
> Progress". Once I check the box, I want "In Progress" tag to be deleted and 
> "Revisions Needed" tag to be added. That will then move it to a completely 
> new, different list where the same thing will happen, but "Needs Revision" 
> will become "Completed". 
>
> The code that I'm using so far is:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[In Progress]sort[created]]">
>
> <$checkbox tag="In Progress"><$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
> field="title"/>
> 
>
>
> This does almost what I want, but it's really annoying because the 
> checkbox is CHECKED and I have to UNCHECK it in order to delete the "In 
> Progress" tag. I would much have it the normal way a checkbox works. It 
> also doesn't add the "Needs Revision" tag that I want. 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Help: ArticleTiddlers - unit tiddler showing multiple sequenced tids

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

There's a replace[] filter -- you could replace '[My Title]' with "['Draft 
of' My Title]' in the list. Must say, I've never tried to do this in the 
story river to see what effect this has. Not too sure it would work, as the 
process of creating a draft, then replacing the old tiddler with the draft 
seems quite involved. I'd guess that the tiddler in question would 
disappear and there would be no draft to take its place.

regards

On Monday, 29 August 2016 15:23:36 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Thanks again Matabele!
>
> If I understand, ListOps is an action widget. Wouldn't this mean that the 
> viewer has to click some button (other than the title link) to see the 
> article?
>
> However, ListOps would come in handy with something I'm fiddling with 
> right now; Clicking a special *paragraph edit button* should show the 
> paragraph edit view (still inside the article). I'm thinking ListOps might 
> be able to simply switch the articles paragraphs field from reading e.g 
>
> paragraphs: Paragraph1 Paragraph2 Paragraph3 ...
>
> into
>
> paragraphs: Paragraph1 [[Draft of 'Paragraph2']] Paragraph3 ...
>
> ...and reversed when clicking Save tiddler. Obviously, I can't know the 
> name or position of the concerned title.
>
> Since you're Mr. ListOps in high person ;-) ... can I ask how this is 
> achieved? I can't quite figure it out from the docs.
>
>  
>
>> The only downside to direct manipulation of $:/StoryList!!list (that I 
>> have noticed) is that the history list doesn't get to be updated.
>>
>
> If I understand right, the ListOps don't handle json but if they did, I 
> guess there could be a parallel fireing to operate the history list also. 
>
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: Help: ArticleTiddlers - unit tiddler showing multiple sequenced tids

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

The snapshots are stored as a list of titles in a field or index somewhere. 
I wrote this before developing the ActionListops widget and it was, 
therefore, limited to a permaview type scenario. However, using the 
ActionListops widget with append[] and remove[] filters, lists of tiddler 
titles could be appended or removed from the snapshot, or directly from the 
story river (or any other list operation you may require.)

The only downside to direct manipulation of $:/StoryList!!list (that I have 
noticed) is that the history list doesn't get to be updated.

regards

On Monday, 29 August 2016 10:19:33 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Matabele - thanks for your reply!
>
> That does look promising - but can your variant show several such 
> snapshots below each other and opened at different times? Or does opening 
> one snapshot necessarily *replace *what is currently in the story river, 
> like a *permaview*?
>
> Something like *permaviews* do not solve the need to be able to, in the 
> story river, show a mix of tiddlers (i.e minimal, semantically meaningful 
> chunks) and articles (i.e complex, complete info chunks), where each such 
> is as manageable as if they were tiddlers.
>
> One application would be a news site showing a story river with several 
> news articles. The difference from most regular such news sites is that 
> when it's made with TW+ArticleTiddlers then we can individually open/close 
> new such articles in the story river. Most regular news sites show a 
> "locked" river. Note that some articles might be as small (i.e as 
> "un-complex") as one tiddler, in which case they still appear to be of the 
> same kind as any other article. The readers are not exposed to tiddler 
> philosophy (as far as they know). 
>
> Would you say snapshots solve this?
>
> <:-)
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[tw] Re: Help: ArticleTiddlers - unit tiddler showing multiple sequenced tids

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

There's an easy way to do this -- simply save the list of titles from the 
current story river to a list (a snapshot) -- then restore this snapshot to 
the story river. There's been a demo here  for 
some time (the Stories tab in the sidebar):

\define saveSnapshot()
<$button set="$:/_snapshots##$(snapshot)$" setTo={{$:/StoryList!!list}}>Save 
Snapshot
\end

\define showSnapshot()
<$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" setTo={{$:/_snapshots##$(snap)$}}>Show 
Snapshot
\end

;Show Snapshot

<$select tiddler="$:/_snapshots" field=
"story-name" default='(none)'>
<$list filter="[[$:/_snapshots]indexes[]]" variable="currentIndex">
>><>


<$set name="snap" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
<>


;Save Snapshot

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/_snapshots" field=
"story-name"/>
<$set name="snapshot" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
<>


No fancy formatting, but it should be possible to add this facility.

regards

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>
> Help to make this suitable to be included in the standard TW distribution!
>
> ArticleTiddlers 
>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] How to get numbers 1 2 3 ... in $list filter?

[Matabele]

P.S. 

Can't think of a way to auto-generate the integers, but a list of integers 
(stored elsewhere) could be truncated at the desired number by using the 
output of the $count widget as parameter to the first[] filter.

regards

On Monday, 22 August 2016 05:11:00 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi sini-Kit
>
> You might try something along these lines (you will need to modify the 
> filter to select your list of tiddlers):
>
> <$list filter="1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9" variable="count">
>
> No: <> <$list filter="[my[filter]nth]"/>
> 
>
> regards
>
>
> On Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:22:13 UTC+2, sini-Kit wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Felix! I hope it will be possible to make it without plugins in 
>> future.
>>
>> пятница, 29 января 2016 г., 20:19:20 UTC+3 пользователь Felix Küppers 
>> написал:
>>>
>>> Hi sini-Kit,
>>>
>>> use Tobias' make plugin!
>>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#make
>>>
>>> -Felix
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/29/2016 05:50 PM, sini-Kit wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi! I have a very simple list with several items.  I want to see them 
>>> but with numbers/
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList!!list]]" >
>>> <$view tiddler=<> field=title/> "№$myNumber$"
>>> 
>>>
>>> I want to see
>>>
>>> Anytitle "№1"
>>> Besttitle "№2"
>>> TitleAgain "№3"
>>>
>>> is it possible?
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Re: [tw] [TW5] How to get numbers 1 2 3 ... in $list filter?

[Matabele]

Hi sini-Kit

You might try something along these lines (you will need to modify the 
filter to select your list of tiddlers):

<$list filter="1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9" variable="count">

No: <> <$list filter="[my[filter]nth]"/>


regards


On Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:22:13 UTC+2, sini-Kit wrote:
>
> Thank you Felix! I hope it will be possible to make it without plugins in 
> future.
>
> пятница, 29 января 2016 г., 20:19:20 UTC+3 пользователь Felix Küppers 
> написал:
>>
>> Hi sini-Kit,
>>
>> use Tobias' make plugin!
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#make
>>
>> -Felix
>>
>>
>> On 01/29/2016 05:50 PM, sini-Kit wrote:
>>
>> Hi! I have a very simple list with several items.  I want to see them but 
>> with numbers/
>>
>> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList!!list]]" >
>> <$view tiddler=<> field=title/> "№$myNumber$"
>> 
>>
>> I want to see
>>
>> Anytitle "№1"
>> Besttitle "№2"
>> TitleAgain "№3"
>>
>> is it possible?
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[tw] Re: NoteSelf the Evernote-like experience update

[Matabele]

Hi Danielo

Great job! 

regards

On Sunday, 21 August 2016 03:23:03 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Hello Early adopters!
>
> I just released a new version of noteself (https://noteself.github.io/)
>
> This is an important internal update. All the tiddler configurations are 
> now stored on a local database. This may sound as a small thing but it is 
> an important improvement.
>
> Thanks to this feature it is now possible to use NoteSelf online, without 
> downloading or installing anything. So anyone that wants to try it out 
> without even downloading the file it is now possible.
>
> I have also updated the authentication mechanism and it fails much less 
> now.
> So, please try it out at:
>
> https://noteself.github.io/
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[tw] Re: Help on a filter argument, please

[Matabele]

Hi

The now macro may be used to get the day-of-the week for today:
<>

This code should, therefore, transclude the text of all tiddlers tagged 
with todays day-of-the-week:

<$set name=dow value=<>>
<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]tag]">

<$transclude/>



The transclusion will, however, be dynamic -- therefore, a journal entry 
made today, will tomorrow transclude the content of tiddlers tagged with 
tomorrow. To create a static journal entry, the tiddler for today's 
day-of-the-week, must be copied into the new journal entry rather than 
transcluded i.e. create a template for each day-of-the-week and use this 
template to create the appropriate new journal.

regards

On Saturday, 20 August 2016 17:29:30 UTC+2, CPorter9 wrote:
>
> (TW5)
>
> I want to transclude a tiddler into a new journal tiddler, and I want the 
> transcluded tiddler to change depending on what day the journal tiddler was 
> created on.
>
> All the tiddlers that I want transcluded are already created, they just 
> need to show up in the new journal tiddler depending on the day the journal 
> tiddler was created. They have a tag for a day (Monday, Tuesday, etc.).
>
> I think this means I first need to find out what day it is when the new 
> journal tiddler is created, then find the tiddler that has the tag for that 
> day, then transclude it into the new journal entry. 
>
> (which also means I need to modify the new journal template to include 
> this filter operation, but that's another hurdle to jump.)
>
> I cannot find enough examples of using filters in this way to figure out 
> how to do this.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Macro for saving timestamp in field – problem

[Matabele]

Hi Thomas

If you want to waste more time -- have a look at the cycled tags in the 
last example at the bottom of the 'keep Operator examples' on the 
ActionListops wiki <http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/>.

This makes use of the cycle[] and keep[] filter operators which aren't yet 
in the core -- you will need to copy over the extended listops filters 
($:/core/modules/filters/x-listops.js) from the wiki for these to work in 
your wiki.

regards

On Friday, 19 August 2016 17:28:23 UTC+2, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Very cool, thank you Matabele!
> Have a nice weekend,
> Thomas 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Macro for saving timestamp in field – problem

[Matabele]

Hi Thomas

No need to use an extra line to clear the field -- use the $filter= 
parameter directly -- this will overwrite the contents of the field.

<$action-listops $field="todo-done" $filter=<>/>

This could be used to update a timestamp with each click, for example.

regards

On Friday, 19 August 2016 09:00:16 UTC+2, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele
>
> Thank you for the input, when I took a look at the ActionListops widget, I 
> did not realise the possibility to add and remove tags at the same time. 
> This makes my code much simpler indeed!
>
> I did not copy your exact solution as the action-setfield still would need 
> the FieldMangler (ActionListops doesn’t). At the moment my macro looks like 
> this: 
> \define todoBtnDone(remove,class:"")
> <$set name="btnclass" value="todo-btn-invisible $class$">
> <$button class=<> tooltip="This is done">
> <$action-listops $tags="ToDoDone -$remove$"/>
> <$action-listops $field="todo-done" $subfilter=<>
> />
> {{$:/core/images/full-screen-button}}
> 
> 
> \end
>
> Important: This appends done-dates instead of deleting former values … I 
> am not sure yet, if this is useful, so I leave it like that. To go back to 
> only one date I would clear the field like this: 
> <$action-listops $field="todo-done" $filter="[[]]"/>
>
> Thanks again and have a nice day!
> Thomas
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Macro for saving timestamp in field – problem

[Matabele]

Hi

The tags may be modified more simply using the ActionListops widget -- the 
entire code for the button is then:

<$button tooltip="This is done" class="todo-btn-invisible">
<$action-listops $tags="ToDoDone -ToDoNow"/>
<$action-setfield $field="todo-done" $value=<>/>
{{$:/core/images/full-screen-button}}


regards

On Thursday, 18 August 2016 10:07:46 UTC+2, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi folks!
>
> While still learning TW in small steps, I am "developping" my own todo 
> list … and ran into a problem: When a task is done, I want to write the 
> done-date in it’s own field. 
>
> Within the list of tasks I tried: 
>
> <$set name="donedate" value=<> >
> <$macrocall $name="todoBtnDone" remove="ToDoNow" date=<>/>
> 
>
> with these macros: 
>
> \define todoBtnDone(remove, date)
> <$fieldmangler>
> <$button tooltip="This is done" class="todo-btn-invisible" message=
> "tm-remove-tag" param="$remove$">
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="ToDoDone"/>
> <$action-setfield $field="todo-done" $value="$date$"/>
> {{$:/core/images/full-screen-button}}
> 
> 
> \end
>
>
> \define teTimestampNow()
> <$set name="timestamp" value=<> >
> <>000
> 
> \end
>
> Problem: I can see the button (the button works actually and adds/removes 
> tags as expected), BUT the output contains this as text output:
>
> <$action-setfield $field="todo-done" $value="
> 20160818095228
> 000
> "/>
>
> ... so it is not executed.
>
> I am sure I did something wrong with the variable values <> and 
> or $date$ – but I can’t see it at the moment. Maybe you can? Or is there a 
> better way to get a timestamp in the same format as standard modified and 
> created? Do I hav to use JS and $tw.utils.stringifyDate(now)); for this?
>
> Kind regards, Thomas
>
>

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[tw] Re: Want to add a tag to multiple tiddlers -- how?

[Matabele]

Hi

Jan's method is more simply rendered using the ActionListops widget -- like 
so:

<$button>Tag with xxx
<$list filter='[list[$:/StoryList]]'>
<$action-listops $tags="xxx"/>



Several new tags may be added at once (and the 'xxx' tag removed) -- like 
so:

<$button>Remove xxx and add new tags
<$list filter='[list[$:/StoryList]]'>
<$action-listops $tags="-xxx newtag1 newtag2 newtag3"/>



regards

On Saturday, 13 August 2016 23:57:06 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Hey all, 
>
> I have customized my journal style to include background but now. how 
> do I add all my old journal tiddlers to the new tag? I must have around 50 
> of them. I don't want to go through each individual one and add a tag 
> manually, there must be a better way I'm not aware of? 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5][Noob]Adding next 10 tiddlers in the list to storylist

[Matabele]

Hi -- From the TiddlyWiki docs:

A sequence of separate runs will select the tiddlers that match *any* of 
the runs. We can use this to find recipes that serve either 3, 4 or 5 
people:

[serving[3]] [serving[4]] [serving[5]]

If we want to ignore vegetarian recipes that serve 4, we can say this:

[serving[3]] [serving[4]!tag[Vegetarian]] [serving[5]]

By default, each run considers every tiddler in the wiki. But we can use a + 
sign 
to force a run to consider only the tiddlers that were selected by the 
preceding runs:

[serving[3]] [serving[4]] [serving[5]] +[tag[Vegetarian]] +[sort[title]]

This selects recipes for 3, 4 or 5 people, then filters *those* to keep 
only the vegetarian ones, and finally sorts any that are left into 
alphabetical order of title.

In a similar way, we can use a - sign to *remove* a run's tiddlers from the 
result so far. Here we select all vegetarian recipes apart from two:

[tag[Vegetarian]] -[title[ScrambledEggs]] -BeansOnToast


regards

On Tuesday, 16 August 2016 10:46:55 UTC+2, Rizwan Ishak wrote:
>
> Hi
> I made a list of 10 tiddlers appear in storylist using the code
> <$makelist tiddler="$:/StoryList" set="!!list" 
> filter="[tag[A]fieldA{!!fieldA}limit[10]]">
> <$button class="tc-btn-text" message="tw-make-list">
> TextAppearingOnMyButton
> 
> 
>
> I was wondering if there was a way to add a tiddler to the storylist with 
> a button reading next - onclick which will add the next 10 tiddlers of the 
> above used flter to the storylist?
>
> Sorry the solution is apparent. I promise I did my fair share of searching.
>
> On a rather unrelated note, what is a way to add 'OR' to the filter 
> parameters?
>
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[tw] Re: How to get save to use same filename?

[Matabele]

Hi Chris

The old version used to be a little tricky -- but the new version seems to 
be straightforward to use. Once installed into Chrome -- open the app. and 
load your wiki (note its a Chrome App, not an extension.)

The only issue I've had is an error message when I first open a wiki -- I 
ignore and everything seems to work fine after that.

regards

On Monday, 8 August 2016 12:00:37 UTC+2, Chris Jordan wrote:
>
> I use the TiddlyChrome extension 
>>  -- 
>> works great.
>>
>
> Thanks. Are instructions for use to be found anywhere? The readme file 
> https://github.com/Arlen22/tiddly-chrome-app/blob/master/README.md has 
> just instructions for installation and development. I've read 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/nKxU_ixVKTI and would 
> rather avoid the problems people report there.
>
>

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[tw] Re: How to get save to use same filename?

[Matabele]

Hi Chris

I use the TiddlyChrome extension 
 -- 
works great.

regards

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 17:49:51 UTC+2, Chris Jordan wrote:
>
> Using Chrome, can I get the Save to default to the current name? Currently 
> each Save defaults to a new name, and the current tab does not update.
>

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[tw] Re: tip: entering tags quicker

[Matabele]

Hi David

No problem -- hope you find this as useful as I found your notetaking app 
back in the day!

Have fun with the emoji  

regards

On Saturday, 6 August 2016 14:37:57 UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Wow Matabele, thanks for that link - just discovered your emojis and other 
> stuff too!
>
> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 2:23:23 AM UTC-5, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> You might be interested in my simple-tagger plugin 
>> <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/> -- my primary goal was to 
>> facilitate the adding or copying of multiple tags to tiddlers.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Friday, 31 July 2015 03:37:43 UTC+2, Rustem wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure if this is common knowledge, but I just realized I can add a 
>>> bunch of tags to the tiddler I'm editing by simply adding a field "tags". 
>>> The value will replace the existing tags, so it's only practical for a 
>>> new/untagged tiddler.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: tip: entering tags quicker

[Matabele]

Hi

You might be interested in my simple-tagger plugin 
 -- my primary goal was to facilitate 
the adding or copying of multiple tags to tiddlers.

regards

On Friday, 31 July 2015 03:37:43 UTC+2, Rustem wrote:
>
> Not sure if this is common knowledge, but I just realized I can add a 
> bunch of tags to the tiddler I'm editing by simply adding a field "tags". 
> The value will replace the existing tags, so it's only practical for a 
> new/untagged tiddler.
>

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[tw] Re: Transcluding the title of the current tiddler

[Matabele]

Hi

No need for a double macro -- this seems to work:

\define myTitle(title) $title$ info""

<>

-- not too sure what your desired string should be
-- the macrocall can be used as a variable for setting a parameter elsewhere

regards

On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 13:57:44 UTC+2, jonath...@wolke7.net wrote:
>
>  
>
> Hi there,
>
>  
>
> i want to transclude the title of the current tiddler within a macro.
>
>  
>
> Firstly, here ist he macro:
>
>  
>
> \define myMacro()
>
> ---
>
> look here for more informations: [[ {{!title}} (Info) ]]
>
> ---
>
>  
>
> \end
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Secondly, here ist the macro call:
>
>  
>
> <<>>
>
>  
>
> Thirdly, this should be seen:
>
>  
>
> A link to a tiddler with a title which consists of a) the current 
> tiddler   and b) the string  „ (Info“)
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Background: I’m developing a set of flash cards and on the top of each 
> page there should be a link to an „info-page“ for the current tiddler.
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>  
>
> Jonathan
>
>  
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 multiple tag search using drop-down list

[Matabele]

Hi Jon

I remember playing around with something like this using my $checklist 
widget -- have a look at the Select by ANDing Tags 

 example 
here .

regards

On Monday, 25 July 2016 22:04:19 UTC+2, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've searched through the forum so apologies if I've overlooked an answer 
> previously given to this.
>
> I'd like to set something up so that I can apply a filter using drop down 
> lists of the available tags so I can then search for all the tiddlers 
> tagged with both A and B by selecting each tag from the drop down list.
>
> Hopefully that makes sense.
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>
>

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[tw] Re: Tags quandary - how do I merge tag that have different case

[Matabele]

Hi Farayi

The ActionListops widget is designed for this kind of operation and 
simplifies code considerably -- to search and replace a tag use with the 
replace[] filter operator like so:

<$button>
<$list filter="[tag[oldtag]]">
<$action-listops $tags="newtag +[replace[oldtag]]"/>

Do This


-- the $tags filter will operate on the 'tags' field of the current tiddler
-- the 'newtag' entry appends the tag to replace with to the end of the list
-- the replace[oldtag] filter operator searches for 'oldtag' and replaces 
it with the last item in the list ('newtag' in this case)
-- the list filter is used to select the list of tiddlers to operate on 
(this may be any listing -- in this case the list of tiddlers with 'oldtag')

Hope this helps

regards

On Monday, 18 July 2016 10:52:16 UTC+2, Farayi Chambati wrote:
>
>
> I have a tag like "Movie" and "movie". How do I rename one or how I merge 
> these? My queries are now very complicated because of this. OR what do you 
> recommend?
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Open all the tiddlers with a particular tag

[Matabele]

Hi


The $action-listops widget (now included in the core) may be used for this 
functionality, using the $filter= attribute option:


\define getTiddlers()
<$button class="btn-invisible">$(tag)$
<$action-listops $tiddler="$:/StoryList" $field="list" $filter=
"[tag[$(tag)$]]"/>

\end

Note: This doesn't update the history

regards

On Friday, 20 June 2014 09:26:03 UTC+2, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I'd find it really useful to be able to simultaneously open all the 
> tiddlers with a particular tag and then close them all again.
>
> Is that already possible?
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>

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[tw] Re: Macros to show different results all depending on a single field value?

[Matabele]

Hi Mans

This kind of conditional can be fairly simply achieved using the SetWidget 
-- the widget will choose either a 'value' or an 'emptyValue' depending 
upon the output of the filter expression.

<$set name="myVariable" filter="[all[current]field:gender[male]]" value="It's 
male" emptyValue="It's not male">
<$text text=<>/>



regards

On Friday, 10 June 2016 21:50:25 UTC+2, Måns wrote:
>
> Hi TwWizards
>
> I have a radio button which sets a value of a field "gender" to either 
> "male" or "female".
>
> Now I want to create 4 or 5 macros which will show/wikify the value as 
> different results.
>
> I guess some kind of "if evaluation" is needed?
>  
> Macro 1 should show male as "he" and female as "she" I think it should 
> look like this <> or <>
> Macro 1b should show male as "He" and female as "She" <> <>
>
> Macro 2 should show male as "him" and female as "her"  <> <> 
> Macro 2b should show male as "Him" and female as "Her" <> <>
>
> I guess creating  macros like this is a better and more simple way to 
> achieve what I described in this post 
> .
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson 
>

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[tw] Re: How do I create two fields at once with one radio button?

[Matabele]

Hi Mans

Here's code fro a fake checkbox:
-- set (can have multiple action widgets)
<$reveal type="match" state="!!temp" text="set">
<$button set="!!temp" setTo="reset" class='tc-btn-invisible'>
<$action-listops $tiddler="test" $field="myfield" $filter="[my[filter]"/>
...
SetSet

 
-- reset
<$reveal type="match" state="!!temp" text="reset">
<$button set="!!temp" setTo="set" class='tc-btn-invisible'>
<$action-listops $tiddler="test" $field="myfield" $filter="[[]]"/>
...
ResetReset

This may be modified to make a fake radio button -- 'input type = radio', 
as far as I recall

regards

On Friday, 10 June 2016 16:19:01 UTC+2, Måns wrote:
>
> Hi Mat
>
> Thank you. 
> Please enlighten me :-)
> Has anyone done this yet?
> I've searched for "make a button look like a radio button" and "make a 
> button behave like a radio button ".
> No luck - or the information is hidden in some profound discussion about 
> how to do something completely different?
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> Den fredag den 10. juni 2016 kl. 15.46.59 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>>
>> Måns, great to see you on the boards again.
>>
>> In case it hasn't been mentioned; you can make a regular button *look *like 
>> a radio button (even just use images) and within that regular button you 
>> can have two setfield widgets. It would take you less than 10 minutes to 
>> make.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another way to make multiple tag-like fields

[Matabele]

Hi Jed

It should be possible to modify the existing filters designed for the tags 
field, so as to handle any field containing a list. The hurdle will be 
maintaining backward compatibility.

A syntax something like tag:field[mytag] and tagging:field[] might be 
acceptable (with default field = 'tags'.) When I looked at it, some of the 
other cases were more difficult.

regards

On Monday, 23 May 2016 16:45:36 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The macros TagLikeList and EditTagLikeList are the view and edit parts of 
> what I made. If you just put <> it will display the 
> contents of the foo field in the current tiddler like it was tags with the 
> label Foo. <> will do the same thing but it is the 
> editing part. They are exactly what is used for the global portions so they 
> should act the same way.
>
> <> will wikifi the items in the list so you 
> can use icons or images or whatever you want. I may add an optional 
> argument for the display template to use if you want something other than 
> the default tag pill.
>
> I need to work on my tiddler tools 
>  generic search so it 
> can work with these other fields. But it probably requires a lot of work 
> anyway. The action-listops widget should simplify a lot of what it does.
> I think that the contains operator is going to be very useful but it is a 
> bit specific for what I need now. I can get a list of tiddlers that have 
> the tag foo in field bar using [[foo]listed[bar]], what I need is the 
> equalvilent of [all[]tags[]]. [all[]listed[!!bar]] only gives the results 
> from the current tiddler and ignores the all[] part. Once I get a solution 
> to that than I can make using the alternate fields identical to using the 
> tags field. After I have that I am going to worry about updating tiddler 
> tools to use them for advanced searching.
>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Matabele]

Hi Radium

An alternative to dropdowns, is to cycle through available options -- like 
the keep operator example on the ActionListops widget demo site: 
http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/

You'll need the x-listops filter set from the site, which includes the 
cycle[] and keep[] operators used for this demo.

regards

On Monday, 23 May 2016 12:43:36 UTC+2, Radium wrote:
>
> Some fields like "medicinal plants" have a mind blowing number of "bits & 
> pieces",
> So a drop-down list for "parts" seams logical, but think twice about 
> "uses" if your desktop doesn't have 50 monitors stacked on top of each 
> other ;)
> A simple text-field armed with a "suggestions as typing" function is far 
> better for "uses".
>
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 7:31:39 AM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Wow, that's really cool. And you did all that on a tablet?
>>
>> To turn it into a standardized database application, could those use and 
>> part options come from a drop down list?
>>
>> Without a standardized list, what happens is that you get variant 
>> spellings for the same thing (e.g. "Leaves" vs "leafs", "antispetic" vs 
>> "antiseptic") Those variants will make analyzing the data later much harder.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 1:32:44 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>>
>>> I would also recommend TiddlyMap, but it may get a bit unwieldy if you 
>>> have 300 nodes. 
>>>
>>> I doubt that anything will be finished in time to be very useful by 
>>> monday, but I am hoping to make a generic encyclopedia model for TiddlyWiki 
>>> using a lot of things I have made 
>>> . While it isn't 
>>> immediately obvious a lot of the functionality you want is already in what 
>>> I made. Unfortunately one of the biggest problems with TiddlyWiki at the 
>>> moment is the difficultly going from understanding the very basic use as 
>>> something like a journal or linked notebook to understanding more complex 
>>> uses. We are working on it.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, everything in your list (all the plants belonging to X 
>>> family, listing all plants with medicinal "root bark", etc.) can be done 
>>> relatively simply using what you inspired me to make from your request (
>>> here 
>>> ).
>>>  
>>> I am working to find a reasonable way for someone who isn't familiar with 
>>> TiddlyWiki to use them effectively.
>>>
>>> Once I get the new changes added into the encyclopedia demo I made than 
>>> just clicking on the tag pill for each section will list everything that 
>>> has that entry. So everything that has antiseptic listed under uses will 
>>> appear if you click on the pill antiseptic in the uses list.
>>> There are other ways it will be able to be sorted or searched through as 
>>> well, like a drop down menu where you can select from all the uses to get a 
>>> list of things that match it.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Matabele]

Hi Radium

The $action-listops widget is designed to manipulate fields as lists -- 
there are various extended filters designed to work with this widget.

regards

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 16:29:13 UTC+2, Radium wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to make and use a tiddler template named "monograph", which has 
> predefined fields such as:
>
>
>- scientific name
>- common name
>- useful parts
>- uses
>- habitat
>- physical description
>- chemicals
>
>
> *And most importantly:*
>
>
>- I need to be able to *search* and *sort* plant tiddlers using any of 
>these fields.
>- Some fields (like chemicals and useful parts), might contain 
>multiple values, and each value needs to be counted as a *separate 
>entity*, not a stream of values like a sentence.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Simple task complex problem

[Matabele]

Hi Ákos Szederjei 

I often misuse the definition syntax for this purpose -- it may be used to 
create a title followed by a number of indented lines, or the title may be 
left blank -- like so.

; Title
: Line 1
: Line 2
: Line 3
: Line 4

 -- or like so.

; 
: Line 1
: Line 2
: Line 3
: Line 4

The ';' will carry over -- only one is required and may be followed by 
indented lines interspersed with other text -- like so.

; Title
: Line 1
: Line 2
And another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph 
another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph 
another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph

: Line 3
: Line 4

regards

On Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:49:02 UTC+2, Ákos Szederjei wrote:
>
> Hello TW users and creators! 
>
> In a tiddler I would like to have the following text: 
>
> Line1 
> Line2 
> Line3 
> Line4 
>
> Is there any other solution besides  at the end of the line? 
>
> Thank you for the help! 
>
> Ákos, wanna be tiddler master :) 
>

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[tw] Re: tags and carriage returns

[Matabele]

Hi Andy

I made a little utility for adding and copying tags to tiddlers -- you may find 
this here. 

Not a fix for the standard tag editor -- but makes adding several tags to 
one or more tiddlers a snap.

regards

On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 17:34:40 UTC+2, Andy Pastuszak wrote:
>
> I don't know if this has been brought up before, but it would be a great 
> time saver to be able to deal with tags in a new tiddler with arrow keys 
> and carriage returns.
>
> For example, start typing a new tag.  The auto complete list pops up.  You 
> arrow down to the tag you want and just hit enter.  For new tags, just type 
> the word and hit enter, rather than having to click on the add button.
>
> I think it would speed up my note taking a great deal.
>
> Andy
>

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[tw] Re: Matabele's Transparent overlay palette

[Matabele]

Hi Pau

I used alpha values in rgba() color codes -- the last value corresponds to 
the transparency (1=opaque, 0=invisible.) First convert your hex code to 
rgb() -- then add an alpha value to get the rgba() code.

Here are a couple of useful links:
http://www.colorizer.org/
http://www.css3.info/introduction-opacity-rgba/

Hope this helps.

regards






On Tuesday, 5 April 2016 09:16:02 UTC+2, Pau Deluca wrote:
>
> Hi there! It's been a lng time!
>
> I've been searching around for some inspiration, when I fell on Matabele's 
> wiki and discovered that playing with transparences in TW5 was possible.
>
> Trying to understand how that was done, I see that the trick is done not 
> in the styles, as I first thought, but in the palette.
>
> http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel:%24%3A%2FControlPanel
>
> Indeed, the only thing I needed to get the transparent effects in a fresh 
> empty TW was importing the palette $$:/palettes/Universe 
>  and changing 
> to this one in the PanelControl/Appearence/palette.
>
> However, I'm not able to understand how should I do to adjust the opacity 
> of the overlay, nor how this effect is accomplished only by the palette. 
>
> I cannot find Matabele's contact info anywhere, to directly ask. Does 
> anyone know either how the palette generates the transparencies, or 
> Matabele's contact details?
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> P.-)
>

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[tw] Re: stack maketid

[Matabele]

Hi Andrew

OK -- back on a decent internet connection.

I posted a new version of the $action-maketid widget here 
. This version may be used in conjunction 
with the maketid[] filter to create a number of new tiddlers with various 
options for the titles.

regards

On Friday, 26 February 2016 16:26:40 UTC+2, andrew levy wrote:
>
> I am trying to make 2 new tiddlers with this add button but I am only 
> getting 1. Can someone advise where I am going wrong?
>
> thanks
>
> andrew
>
>
> \define newPublication_button2(publication_title,publication_authors,
> publication_journal,publication_volume,publication_year,publication_doi,
> publication_url,publication_abstract,edit:"show",tags,label,class,color)
>
> <$setfield set="!!publication_title" setTo="$publication_title$">
> <$setfield set="$:/temp/publication!!publication_title" setTo="">
>
> <$setfield set="!!publication_authors" setTo="$publication_authors$">
> <$setfield set="$:/temp/publication!!publication_authors" setTo="">
>
> <$setfield set="!!publication_journal" setTo="$publication_journal$">
> <$setfield set="$:/temp/publication!!publication_journal" setTo="">
>
> <$setfield set="!!publication_volume" setTo="$publication_volume$">
> <$setfield set="$:/temp/publication!!publication_volume" setTo="">
>
> <$setfield set="!!publication_year" setTo="$publication_year$">
> <$setfield set="$:/temp/publication!!publication_year" setTo="">
>
> <$setfield set="!!publication_doi" setTo="$publication_doi$">
> <$setfield set="$:/temp/publication!!publication_doi" setTo="">
>
> <$setfield set="!!publication_url" setTo="$publication_url$">
> <$setfield set="$:/temp/publication!!publication_url" setTo="">
>
> <$setfield set="!!publication_abstract" setTo="$publication_abstract$">
> <$setfield set="$:/temp/publication!!publication_abstract" setTo="">
>
> <$maketid  title="$publication_title$" tags="$:/_type/publication 
> $tags$" edit="$edit$" message="tw-set-field">
> 
>
><$maketid title="$publication_authors$" tags="$:/_type/author $tags$" 
> edit="$edit$" message="tw-set-field">
> <$button message="tw-new-tiddler" class="$class$"> $label$
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> \define newPublication_button(label:add "class:"",color:"#ff8389")
> <$macrocall $name="newPublication_button2" 
> publication_title={{$:/temp/publication!!publication_title}}
> publication_authors={{$:/temp/publication!!publication_authors}}
> publication_journal={{$:/temp/publication!!publication_journal}}
> publication_volume={{$:/temp/publication!!publication_volume}}
> publication_year={{$:/temp/publication!!publication_year}}
> publication_doi={{$:/temp/publication!!publication_doi}}
> publication_url={{$:/temp/publication!!publication_url}}
> publication_abstract={{$:/temp/publication!!publication_abstract}}
> edit={{$:/temp/publication!!edit}} 
> tags={{$:/temp/publication!!tags}} 
> label="$label$" 
> class="$class$" 
> color="$color$"/>
> \end
>
> <>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>

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[tw] Re: Tagging a tiddler and changing color field in one move

[Matabele]

Hi Jo

Have a look at simple tagger  -- 
might meet your requirements.

regards

On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:12:24 UTC+2, jen...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I like the easy tagging method with Eucalys PopupTagger. Now I have the 
> case that I want to change the color field of a tiddler corresponding with 
> the tag.
>
> PopupTagger itself just switches the tag. I thought about a conditional 
> template for setting the color, but this only changes the view, not the 
> tiddler itself. I know that I probably could use the action-setfield widget 
> in combination with a button. But I would like to set the color in the 
> background, not with an additional button for what PopupTagger already does.
>
> Has anyone an idea?
>
> Thanks
> Jo
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] My "filpar" macros Demo

[Matabele]

Hi sini-Kit

That's my feeling -- not so much a limitation of the keep[] operator, but 
deficiencies in filtering fields based upon existence/non-existence and 
empty/non-empty value.

Perhaps another operator required here (or modifications to existing 
operators)?

regards

On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 08:03:44 UTC+2, sini-Kit wrote:
>
> We can make two variants  keep (witch work with all lists)  and ekeep for 
> not intersection with empty lists.  But it will not solve the problem in 
> TW5 with searching something empty. For example it was problem for me to 
> find all empty fields in the tiddler.
>
> And I have to do something like that 
>
> \define ttt() 
> <$list filter="[[Каталог]regexp:$(TestList)$[^$]]">
> $(TestList)$
> 
> \end 
>
> <$list filter="[[Каталог]fields[]]-creator -created -list -modifier 
> -modified -text -tags -title -type" variable="nazvanie">
> <$set name=TestList value=<> > 
> <>
>  
> 
>
>  
>
> среда, 24 февраля 2016 г., 6:50:43 UTC+3 пользователь Matabele написал:
>
>> Hi sini-Kit
>>
>> The keep[] operator can be used for A intersect B -- in your usage you 
>> wished for a special condition -- that an intersect with an empty set is 
>> ignored (as you wished to simultaneously test fro the existence of the 
>> field.)
>>
>> Your modification to the keep[] operator works in this instance, however, 
>> I'm unsure of whether this modification should be made to the operator in 
>> the general case (it could be offered as an option via a suffix) -- an 
>> intersect with an empty set should normally give an empty set.
>>
>> Thoughts anyone?
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 09:12:07 UTC+2, sini-Kit wrote:
>>>
>>> 2) TW5 don't have some useful features, and it will be great if I see 
>>> them in future versions. For example listops  cam make A+B and A-B but cant 
>>> make A intersect B. It very strange, because as a rule we have 3 standard 
>>> Boolean operations. In TW5 we have onclick trigger only, but sometimes it 
>>> is no enough.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] My "filpar" macros Demo

[Matabele]

Hi sini-Kit

The keep[] operator can be used for A intersect B -- in your usage you 
wished for a special condition -- that an intersect with an empty set is 
ignored (as you wished to simultaneously test fro the existence of the 
field.)

Your modification to the keep[] operator works in this instance, however, 
I'm unsure of whether this modification should be made to the operator in 
the general case (it could be offered as an option via a suffix) -- an 
intersect with an empty set should normally give an empty set.

Thoughts anyone?

regards

On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 09:12:07 UTC+2, sini-Kit wrote:
>
> 2) TW5 don't have some useful features, and it will be great if I see them 
> in future versions. For example listops  cam make A+B and A-B but cant make 
> A intersect B. It very strange, because as a rule we have 3 standard 
> Boolean operations. In TW5 we have onclick trigger only, but sometimes it 
> is no enough.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to use checkbox to add to list field

[Matabele]

Hi Andrew

The $checklist widget might meet your requirements -- the widget extends 
the functionality of the $checkbox widget to handle lists in ordinary 
fields and indexes. There is, therefore, no need to use the $listops 
widget, provided that your requirement is only to toggle the value of one 
of the items in a list.

The $checklist widget may be found here .

regards

On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:24:52 UTC+2, Andrew wrote:
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> I'm trying to add to the list field using the checkbox widget and can't 
> figure out how to write it. Currently I have tried the following. But it 
> fails. Any suggestions?
>
> \define add()
> <$action-listops $tiddler="$:/plugin/ajh/format/list" $field="list" 
> $subfilter="[[$(currentTiddler)$]]"/>
> \end
> \define remove()
> <$action-listops $tiddler="$:/plugin/ajh/format/list" $field="list" 
> $subfilter="-[[$(currentTiddler)$]]"/>
> \end
>
> <$set name="tv-config-toolbar-icons" value="yes">
>
> <$set name="tv-config-toolbar-text" value="yes">
>
> <$list 
> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/FormatToolbar]!has[draft.of]]" 
> variable="listItem">
>
> <$checkbox tiddler="$:/plugin/ajh/format/list" field="list" 
> checked=<> unchecked=<> default= <$transclude 
> tiddler=<> field="caption"/> -- <$transclude 
> tiddler=<> field="description"/>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
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[tw] Re: [meta] What other software can elicit the same reaction as TiddlyWiki?

[Matabele]

Hi

I had a similar reaction the first time I played around with a spreadsheet 
many years ago (Lotus 123.) Of course, spreadsheets are now old hat, but I 
know someone who still does everything in spreadsheets (letters, tenders, 
bom's, certificates, quotes, accounts, wages, notes etc.)

I always wished that any code fragment (in any language) could be placed 
into a cell though :-)

regards

On Monday, 8 February 2016 16:07:23 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I was struck by how these rather nicely expressed words might equally 
> apply to the experience of using TiddlyWiki. It’s actually somebody talking 
> about a specialised programming language for "live coding” musical 
> performances: 
>
> > Tidal is an invitation, a map with many areas marked "here be 
> dragons..." It's 
> > a master carpenter's tool kit, but, also a heap of unorganized Legos. 
> Tidal is 
> > a playground where both discovery and questions arise simultaneously. 
> It's an 
> > intriguing, frustrating mute, a sly cipher, a breathing mandala, a dose 
> of 
> > friendly venom. It's a supreme blank slate, a piece of graph paper with 
> a Z 
> > axis. A series of amusements and also wretched dead-ends. Tidal is 101 
> > unexpectedly popping balloons, a lucid dream. It is a bicycle that once 
> you 
> > learn to ride it, reveals that it can FLY. 
> > 
> > Tidal is the thing I think about almost more often than anything else. 
> It is 
> > impressive enough to sufficiently motivate an old man who yells at 
> clouds to 
> > learn completely new things (writing code) and learn more about things 
> ignored 
> > thus far (music fundamentals). 
> > 
> > Tidal is amazing: I don't know what it is. 
>
> Source: http://lurk.org/groups/tidal/messages/post/54YnfgMDakbh7KgPG05Vc2 
>
> I like the idea that TiddlyWiki is part of a tradition of tools that have 
> the quality of being “generative”: they are meta-tools let you build other, 
> specialised tools for the task at hand. Other examples would be Microsoft 
> Access and Apple’s Hypercard. 
>
> I think it’s that quality that gives rise to the hall-of-mirrors sensation 
> of dizzying possibility that has become familiar as people talk about their 
> experience of using TiddlyWiki. 
>
> What do you think? Does TiddlyWiki feel like that to you? Are there other 
> tools you’ve used that have the same quality? Are there situations where 
> “here be dragons” might scare people off? 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] $action-listops how to get intersection of 3 lists?

[Matabele]

Hi

I think you might have to include all of the possible values of the field 
names for non-empty fields into your filter, like so:
<$list 
filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]has[field1]has[field2]has[field3]fields[]] 
-creator -created -list -modifier -modified -text -tags -title -type" />

regards

On Friday, 5 February 2016 00:32:11 UTC+2, sini-Kit wrote:
>
> thank, you. I will try. and another question  I want to show all 
> non-system and not EMTY fields
> what I have to put to my filter? !has[] don't work
>
> <$list filter="[[$:/temp/_HideStoryList]fields[]]-creator -created -list 
> -modifier -modified -text -tags -title -type" />
>
> четверг, 4 февраля 2016 г., 19:20:21 UTC+3 пользователь Tobias Beer 
> написал:
>
>> Hi SiniKit,
>>
>> I'm a bit baffled that:
>>
>> <$list filter="[list[A]] +[list[B]] +[list[C]]"/>
>>
>> ...would give me 1 5 8.
>>
>> Unfortunately, it looks like the list filter 
>>  would be ignoring its input.
>>
>> Luckily, you should be able to chain your filters using tobibeer/contains 
>> :
>>
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#contains
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] $action-listops how to get intersection of 3 lists?

[Matabele]

Hi sini-Kit

I think the keep[] operator should do the trick: <$list 
filter="[list[!!list1]keep{!!list2}keep{!!list3}]"/>

You will find the keep[] operator in the version of the x-listops filters 
from here .

regards

On Thursday, 4 February 2016 16:42:26 UTC+2, sini-Kit wrote:
>
> I have 3 lists:
> list1[1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8]
> list2[4 5 6 7 8]
> list3[1 5 8]
>
> the result of intersection must be list_int[5 8]
> in other words I want to find items which  all lists have - it is 5 and 8.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyChrome version 0.5

[Matabele]

Hi

Worked this time -- failed on several occasions last time I tried :-/

regards

On Wednesday, 3 February 2016 13:41:14 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> You need to drag it directly into the extensions page in chrome. Go to 
> settings and click Extensions on the left side.
> On Feb 2, 2016 9:52 PM, "Matabele" <matabe...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> My security settings seem to prevent dragging the crx file from 
>> unauthorised sites.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:32:30 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks good,
>>>
>>> You should find it in your apps page in Google Chrome (chrome://apps/). 
>>> I don't have an icon yet for it. Also, you can drag the crx file in if you 
>>> want to just use the release. Either one works.
>>>
>>> -Arlen
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Matabele <matabe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I installed from source and Chrome returned this error:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-arLSRipQpOE/VrDoIELDi4I/AmI/3uMrtGnEFL4/s1600/160202-0001.png>
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 00:58:43 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> I've released an update to the TiddlyChrome app. You can find it on 
>>>>> GitHub.
>>>>>
>>>>> This release no longer requires the TiddlyChromeSaver plugin. There 
>>>>> were a few minor feature changes and a lot of code changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/Arlen22/tiddly-chrome-app/releases/tag/v0.5-beta
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>> -Arlen
>>>>>
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[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

[Matabele]

Hi Andrew

Note the @ I've placed before the expression with the keep[] operator -- 
this is so that the '@' shows as a button if the tiddler contains none of 
the tags in the list.

The @ can be replaced with anything -- a string of text or an icon for 
example.

regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 18:20:05 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele
>
> Okay, I'll see if I can make that work. It's not displaying a button for 
> some reason but I'm really new at this so I'll keep working on it.
>
> Thanks so much for your time and help!
>
> Andrew
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 5:04:03 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew
>>
>> In the demo, each of the 'tag buttons' is cycling a different tag on a 
>> different tiddler. For your usage case, you'd need only a single 'tag 
>> button':
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[ToReview]]">
>> 
>> <$link><>  <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" 
>> tooltip="cycle period">
>> <$action-listops $tags="+[cycle[Review1 Review2 Review3 Review4]"/>
>> @<$list filter="[is[current]tags[]] +[keep[Review1 Review2 Review3 
>> Review4]]" variable="item">
>>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> The top filter lists all of the tiddlers tagged 'ToReview'  -- and the 
>> <$link><> displays the title of the tiddler as a 
>> link.
>>
>> The button alongside will cycle through your four tags for that tiddler.
>>
>> Bare in mind, that when specified like this, the list of tags can not 
>> contain spaces. If any of your tags contain spaces, you must use a 
>> reference to a list in a field or variable (as in the example.)
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:53:29 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem is that I have multiple titles in my list (I attached a pic) 
>>> so I was hoping not to end up with a bunch of buttons.
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, the state of the checkbox would reflect the 
>>> presence of a "Review" (or some iteration of it) tag. By clicking it, I 
>>> would remove "Review" and add "Review 2." This would both remove that title 
>>> from my list and get it ready to pop up on my list again after x days 
>>> because I would be pulling in anything tagged Review that's 3 days old, 
>>> anything tagged Review 2 that's a week old, anything tagged Review 3 that's 
>>> 2 weeks old on so on. 
>>>
>>> If you tell me it won't work I'll believe you and build the button. I 
>>> just hoping your cycle filter would be a pretty solution to my problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 4:36:47 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew
>>>>
>>>> The state of a checkbox (checked/unchecked) is tied to the 
>>>> presence/absence of an item in a list. When cycling a tag, therefore, what 
>>>> should the state of the checkbox reflect?
>>>>
>>>> Rather build a button which cycles the tag on each click -- the current 
>>>> state can be displayed (on the button, if you wish) with the keep[] 
>>>> operator (designed specifically for this purpose.)
>>>>
>>>> There's an example of this on the demo website here 
>>>> <http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/> -- flip through the slides to keep[] 
>>>> Operator (Examples), and repeatedly click any of the tags at the bottom of 
>>>> the page. This should be something like what you're after.
>>>>
>>>> You'll need the version of the x-listops.js filters from the demo site 
>>>> (which includes the cycle[] and keep[] operators) -- then adapt the code 
>>>> from the aforementioned example.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:24:06 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matabele,
>>>>>
>>>>> I stumbled across this thread and was wondering if there is a way to 
>>>>> combine your cycle [] filter operator with a checkbox so that checking 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> box removes one tag and adds the next in the cycle? I'm new to TIddlyWiki 
>>>>> and am not in any way a programmer so hopefully that's not a dumb 
>>>>> question...
>>>>>
>>>>> For some added context, I'm pulling in a linked list 

[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

[Matabele]

Hi Andrew

On checking the demo site -- it isn't obvious that the buttons are cycling 
tags from the tags field of the target tiddler (as the tiddlers are open in 
a substory without the tag pills displayed.) If you wish to see this, open 
any of the target tiddlers from the sidebar (perhaps, Modals 
<http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/#Modals>) -- then you can see the tag pills 
themselves cycling on the target tiddler.

The buttons have been set up to cycle and display the tags -- any other 
action widgets could be added to the buttons to do other stuff at the same 
time.

regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:24:06 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele,
>
> I stumbled across this thread and was wondering if there is a way to 
> combine your cycle [] filter operator with a checkbox so that checking the 
> box removes one tag and adds the next in the cycle? I'm new to TIddlyWiki 
> and am not in any way a programmer so hopefully that's not a dumb 
> question...
>
> For some added context, I'm pulling in a linked list of the titles of all 
> tiddlers tagged "Review" that were created 2, 7, 14, 28 etc days ago (as a 
> way of systematically reviewing class notes). I would like to use your 
> cycle filter operator to make it so that checking the box next to the title 
> removes "Review" and adds "Review 2" (or removes "Review 2" and adds 
> "Review 3" and so on) to bump the tiddler into the next group with a longer 
> waiting period.
>
> I've been at it for hours and am stumped haha.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 10:45:56 AM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Casey
>>
>> You might like to have a look at my new cycle[] filter operator from here 
>> <http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/>. If you like this solution, copy across 
>> the modified version of the '$:/core/modules/filters/x-listops.js 
>> <#1b366027-8d01-4550-894a-8243787f8a89@googlegroups.com_c00a13fa-7179-4e65-9d6e-c4e9df77e5be@googlegroups.com_%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Ffilters%2Fx-listops.js>'
>>  
>> filters to your wiki (from the More/Systems tab.)
>>
>> This mechanism has several advantages over my previous <> 
>> macro:
>> -- only one reference list required
>> -- no conflicts between multiple buttons cycling the same tag
>> -- can work forward/reverse
>> -- can cycle multiple items in multiple lists/tiddler
>>
>> If you prefer this in the form of a macro, this works much like the old 
>> macro (taking values from the 'list' field of the current tiddler):
>>
>> \define cycleTags()
>> <$button>
>> <$action-listops $tags="+[cycle{!!list}]"/>
>> Cycle Tag
>> \end
>>
>> -- or, even simpler:
>>
>> \define cycleStatus()
>> <$button>
>> <$action-listops $tags="+[cycle[active waiting done]]"/>
>> Cycle Status
>> \end
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Friday, 15 January 2016 11:29:46 UTC+2, Casey Allan wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, this is cool. Thanks, Matabele.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

[Matabele]

Hi Andrew

OK -- tested this in a TW now :-) Place this code in a tiddler, and place 
the list of tags in the list field (of the same tiddler.)


<$list filter="[tag[ToReview]]">

<$link><> 
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" tooltip="cycle period">
<$action-listops $tags="+[cycle{!!list}]"/>
@ <$list filter="[is[current]tags[]] +[keep{!!list}]" variable="item"><
>




regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 18:20:05 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele
>
> Okay, I'll see if I can make that work. It's not displaying a button for 
> some reason but I'm really new at this so I'll keep working on it.
>
> Thanks so much for your time and help!
>
> Andrew
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 5:04:03 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew
>>
>> In the demo, each of the 'tag buttons' is cycling a different tag on a 
>> different tiddler. For your usage case, you'd need only a single 'tag 
>> button':
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[ToReview]]">
>> 
>> <$link><>  <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" 
>> tooltip="cycle period">
>> <$action-listops $tags="+[cycle[Review1 Review2 Review3 Review4]"/>
>> @<$list filter="[is[current]tags[]] +[keep[Review1 Review2 Review3 
>> Review4]]" variable="item">
>>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> The top filter lists all of the tiddlers tagged 'ToReview'  -- and the 
>> <$link><> displays the title of the tiddler as a 
>> link.
>>
>> The button alongside will cycle through your four tags for that tiddler.
>>
>> Bare in mind, that when specified like this, the list of tags can not 
>> contain spaces. If any of your tags contain spaces, you must use a 
>> reference to a list in a field or variable (as in the example.)
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:53:29 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem is that I have multiple titles in my list (I attached a pic) 
>>> so I was hoping not to end up with a bunch of buttons.
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, the state of the checkbox would reflect the 
>>> presence of a "Review" (or some iteration of it) tag. By clicking it, I 
>>> would remove "Review" and add "Review 2." This would both remove that title 
>>> from my list and get it ready to pop up on my list again after x days 
>>> because I would be pulling in anything tagged Review that's 3 days old, 
>>> anything tagged Review 2 that's a week old, anything tagged Review 3 that's 
>>> 2 weeks old on so on. 
>>>
>>> If you tell me it won't work I'll believe you and build the button. I 
>>> just hoping your cycle filter would be a pretty solution to my problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 4:36:47 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew
>>>>
>>>> The state of a checkbox (checked/unchecked) is tied to the 
>>>> presence/absence of an item in a list. When cycling a tag, therefore, what 
>>>> should the state of the checkbox reflect?
>>>>
>>>> Rather build a button which cycles the tag on each click -- the current 
>>>> state can be displayed (on the button, if you wish) with the keep[] 
>>>> operator (designed specifically for this purpose.)
>>>>
>>>> There's an example of this on the demo website here 
>>>> <http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/> -- flip through the slides to keep[] 
>>>> Operator (Examples), and repeatedly click any of the tags at the bottom of 
>>>> the page. This should be something like what you're after.
>>>>
>>>> You'll need the version of the x-listops.js filters from the demo site 
>>>> (which includes the cycle[] and keep[] operators) -- then adapt the code 
>>>> from the aforementioned example.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:24:06 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matabele,
>>>>>
>>>>> I stumbled across this thread and was wondering if there is a way to 
>>>>> combine your cycle [] filter operator with a checkbox so that checking 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> box removes one tag and adds the next in the cycle? I'm new to TIddlyWiki 
>>>>

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyChrome version 0.5

[Matabele]

Hi

I installed from source and Chrome returned this error:




regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 00:58:43 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> I've released an update to the TiddlyChrome app. You can find it on GitHub.
>
> This release no longer requires the TiddlyChromeSaver plugin. There were a 
> few minor feature changes and a lot of code changes.
>
> https://github.com/Arlen22/tiddly-chrome-app/releases/tag/v0.5-beta
>
> Enjoy!
> -Arlen
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[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

[Matabele]

Hi Andrew

The state of a checkbox (checked/unchecked) is tied to the presence/absence 
of an item in a list. When cycling a tag, therefore, what should the state 
of the checkbox reflect?

Rather build a button which cycles the tag on each click -- the current 
state can be displayed (on the button, if you wish) with the keep[] 
operator (designed specifically for this purpose.)

There's an example of this on the demo website here 
<http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/> -- flip through the slides to keep[] 
Operator (Examples), and repeatedly click any of the tags at the bottom of 
the page. This should be something like what you're after.

You'll need the version of the x-listops.js filters from the demo site 
(which includes the cycle[] and keep[] operators) -- then adapt the code 
from the aforementioned example.

regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:24:06 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele,
>
> I stumbled across this thread and was wondering if there is a way to 
> combine your cycle [] filter operator with a checkbox so that checking the 
> box removes one tag and adds the next in the cycle? I'm new to TIddlyWiki 
> and am not in any way a programmer so hopefully that's not a dumb 
> question...
>
> For some added context, I'm pulling in a linked list of the titles of all 
> tiddlers tagged "Review" that were created 2, 7, 14, 28 etc days ago (as a 
> way of systematically reviewing class notes). I would like to use your 
> cycle filter operator to make it so that checking the box next to the title 
> removes "Review" and adds "Review 2" (or removes "Review 2" and adds 
> "Review 3" and so on) to bump the tiddler into the next group with a longer 
> waiting period.
>
> I've been at it for hours and am stumped haha.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 10:45:56 AM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Casey
>>
>> You might like to have a look at my new cycle[] filter operator from here 
>> <http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/>. If you like this solution, copy across 
>> the modified version of the '$:/core/modules/filters/x-listops.js 
>> <#1b366027-8d01-4550-894a-8243787f8a89@googlegroups.com_c00a13fa-7179-4e65-9d6e-c4e9df77e5be@googlegroups.com_%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Ffilters%2Fx-listops.js>'
>>  
>> filters to your wiki (from the More/Systems tab.)
>>
>> This mechanism has several advantages over my previous <> 
>> macro:
>> -- only one reference list required
>> -- no conflicts between multiple buttons cycling the same tag
>> -- can work forward/reverse
>> -- can cycle multiple items in multiple lists/tiddler
>>
>> If you prefer this in the form of a macro, this works much like the old 
>> macro (taking values from the 'list' field of the current tiddler):
>>
>> \define cycleTags()
>> <$button>
>> <$action-listops $tags="+[cycle{!!list}]"/>
>> Cycle Tag
>> \end
>>
>> -- or, even simpler:
>>
>> \define cycleStatus()
>> <$button>
>> <$action-listops $tags="+[cycle[active waiting done]]"/>
>> Cycle Status
>> \end
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Friday, 15 January 2016 11:29:46 UTC+2, Casey Allan wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, this is cool. Thanks, Matabele.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

[Matabele]

Hi Andrew

In the demo, each of the 'tag buttons' is cycling a different tag on a 
different tiddler. For your usage case, you'd need only a single 'tag 
button':

<$list filter="[tag[ToReview]]">

<$link><>  <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" 
tooltip="cycle period">
<$action-listops $tags="+[cycle[Review1 Review2 Review3 Review4]"/>
@<$list filter="[is[current]tags[]] +[keep[Review1 Review2 Review3 Review4]]" 
variable="item">

<>








The top filter lists all of the tiddlers tagged 'ToReview'  -- and the 
<$link><> displays the title of the tiddler as a 
link.

The button alongside will cycle through your four tags for that tiddler.

Bare in mind, that when specified like this, the list of tags can not 
contain spaces. If any of your tags contain spaces, you must use a 
reference to a list in a field or variable (as in the example.)

regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:53:29 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>
> The problem is that I have multiple titles in my list (I attached a pic) 
> so I was hoping not to end up with a bunch of buttons.
>
> If I understand correctly, the state of the checkbox would reflect the 
> presence of a "Review" (or some iteration of it) tag. By clicking it, I 
> would remove "Review" and add "Review 2." This would both remove that title 
> from my list and get it ready to pop up on my list again after x days 
> because I would be pulling in anything tagged Review that's 3 days old, 
> anything tagged Review 2 that's a week old, anything tagged Review 3 that's 
> 2 weeks old on so on. 
>
> If you tell me it won't work I'll believe you and build the button. I just 
> hoping your cycle filter would be a pretty solution to my problem.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 4:36:47 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew
>>
>> The state of a checkbox (checked/unchecked) is tied to the 
>> presence/absence of an item in a list. When cycling a tag, therefore, what 
>> should the state of the checkbox reflect?
>>
>> Rather build a button which cycles the tag on each click -- the current 
>> state can be displayed (on the button, if you wish) with the keep[] 
>> operator (designed specifically for this purpose.)
>>
>> There's an example of this on the demo website here 
>> <http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/> -- flip through the slides to keep[] 
>> Operator (Examples), and repeatedly click any of the tags at the bottom of 
>> the page. This should be something like what you're after.
>>
>> You'll need the version of the x-listops.js filters from the demo site 
>> (which includes the cycle[] and keep[] operators) -- then adapt the code 
>> from the aforementioned example.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:24:06 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Matabele,
>>>
>>> I stumbled across this thread and was wondering if there is a way to 
>>> combine your cycle [] filter operator with a checkbox so that checking the 
>>> box removes one tag and adds the next in the cycle? I'm new to TIddlyWiki 
>>> and am not in any way a programmer so hopefully that's not a dumb 
>>> question...
>>>
>>> For some added context, I'm pulling in a linked list of the titles of 
>>> all tiddlers tagged "Review" that were created 2, 7, 14, 28 etc days ago 
>>> (as a way of systematically reviewing class notes). I would like to use 
>>> your cycle filter operator to make it so that checking the box next to the 
>>> title removes "Review" and adds "Review 2" (or removes "Review 2" and adds 
>>> "Review 3" and so on) to bump the tiddler into the next group with a longer 
>>> waiting period.
>>>
>>> I've been at it for hours and am stumped haha.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 10:45:56 AM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Casey
>>>>
>>>> You might like to have a look at my new cycle[] filter operator from 
>>>> here <http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/>. If you like this solution, copy 
>>>> across the modified version of the '
>>>> $:/core/modules/filters/x-listops.js 
>>>> <#beb7e055-d13a-43ea-9c4e-dfd8a8e3adeb@googlegroups.com_388f1d21-b285-437c-8b24-0b6a9db9cc74@googlegroups.com_1b366027-8d01-4550-894a-8243787f8a89@googlegroups.com_c00a13fa-7179-4e65-9d6e-c4e9df77e5be@googlegroups.com_%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Ffilters%2Fx-listops.js>'
>>

[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

[Matabele]

Hi Andrew

Oops -- I left out a  at the bottom there.

regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 18:20:05 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele
>
> Okay, I'll see if I can make that work. It's not displaying a button for 
> some reason but I'm really new at this so I'll keep working on it.
>
> Thanks so much for your time and help!
>
> Andrew
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 5:04:03 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew
>>
>> In the demo, each of the 'tag buttons' is cycling a different tag on a 
>> different tiddler. For your usage case, you'd need only a single 'tag 
>> button':
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[ToReview]]">
>> 
>> <$link><>  <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" 
>> tooltip="cycle period">
>> <$action-listops $tags="+[cycle[Review1 Review2 Review3 Review4]"/>
>> @<$list filter="[is[current]tags[]] +[keep[Review1 Review2 Review3 
>> Review4]]" variable="item">
>>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> The top filter lists all of the tiddlers tagged 'ToReview'  -- and the 
>> <$link><> displays the title of the tiddler as a 
>> link.
>>
>> The button alongside will cycle through your four tags for that tiddler.
>>
>> Bare in mind, that when specified like this, the list of tags can not 
>> contain spaces. If any of your tags contain spaces, you must use a 
>> reference to a list in a field or variable (as in the example.)
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:53:29 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem is that I have multiple titles in my list (I attached a pic) 
>>> so I was hoping not to end up with a bunch of buttons.
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, the state of the checkbox would reflect the 
>>> presence of a "Review" (or some iteration of it) tag. By clicking it, I 
>>> would remove "Review" and add "Review 2." This would both remove that title 
>>> from my list and get it ready to pop up on my list again after x days 
>>> because I would be pulling in anything tagged Review that's 3 days old, 
>>> anything tagged Review 2 that's a week old, anything tagged Review 3 that's 
>>> 2 weeks old on so on. 
>>>
>>> If you tell me it won't work I'll believe you and build the button. I 
>>> just hoping your cycle filter would be a pretty solution to my problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 4:36:47 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew
>>>>
>>>> The state of a checkbox (checked/unchecked) is tied to the 
>>>> presence/absence of an item in a list. When cycling a tag, therefore, what 
>>>> should the state of the checkbox reflect?
>>>>
>>>> Rather build a button which cycles the tag on each click -- the current 
>>>> state can be displayed (on the button, if you wish) with the keep[] 
>>>> operator (designed specifically for this purpose.)
>>>>
>>>> There's an example of this on the demo website here 
>>>> <http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/> -- flip through the slides to keep[] 
>>>> Operator (Examples), and repeatedly click any of the tags at the bottom of 
>>>> the page. This should be something like what you're after.
>>>>
>>>> You'll need the version of the x-listops.js filters from the demo site 
>>>> (which includes the cycle[] and keep[] operators) -- then adapt the code 
>>>> from the aforementioned example.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:24:06 UTC+2, Andrew Whiting wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matabele,
>>>>>
>>>>> I stumbled across this thread and was wondering if there is a way to 
>>>>> combine your cycle [] filter operator with a checkbox so that checking 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> box removes one tag and adds the next in the cycle? I'm new to TIddlyWiki 
>>>>> and am not in any way a programmer so hopefully that's not a dumb 
>>>>> question...
>>>>>
>>>>> For some added context, I'm pulling in a linked list of the titles of 
>>>>> all tiddlers tagged "Review" that were created 2, 7, 14, 28 etc days ago 
>>>>> (as a way of systematically reviewing class notes). I would like to use 

[tw] Re: Export Evernote to TW

[Matabele]

Hi Ray

There are a couple of libraries for converting Evernote notes to markdown 
(untested):

https://github.com/volkhin/evernote-markdown

https://github.com/dhemery/evernote2markdown

This may be viewed in TW with the Markdown plugin. Perhaps one of these 
might meet your requirements?

regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 11:14:11 UTC+2, Ray Vermey wrote:
>
> Good day,
>
> is there a possibilty to export a couple of 500 Evernote notes to 
> TiddlyWiki?
>
> A search here did not give an answer.. so maybe someone has done it before?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ray (i keep coming back to TW...)
>

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[tw] Re: best practices for TW5 Zoomin as a "powerpoint" presentation?

[Matabele]

Hi Dave

There are a couple of alternatives to the use of the Zoomin theme which 
don't leave a list of open (but hidden) tiddlers in the main story river.

Some time ago, I came up with the idea of saving stories to a data index, 
then recalling the saved story back into the story river. This permits 
saving and then restoring an entire story at the click of a button (rather 
than popping one tiddler at a time.) This technique is used on this wiki 
 -- in the 'Stories' sidebar tab. It's very 
easy to use:
-- opens the tiddlers as you wish them to appear in the main story river
-- hit the save story button (saves the list of tiddlers into a data index)
-- select a saved story to restore that story back to the main story river

Another technique revolves around the use of the cycle[] operator to create 
a slideshow. I have used this technique in this wiki 
 to rotate a list of tiddlers from a list 
through a substory river.

If you like either of these options, I can help you through how they may be 
set up.

regards

On Wednesday, 3 February 2016 02:34:57 UTC+2, Dave wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a presentation I'll be doing in April and I'd like to start with 
> the vanilla TW5 and use the Zoomin theme.  
>
> Any tips on making that work well?  Should I just make a normal TW and 
> "control +" to make bigger?  Better to use big font size for tiddlers 
> tagged a certain way?
> Are there example presentations floating around out there you'd recommend 
> I look at?
>
> I did see the "talkytalky" one, but that's one long story and I was 
> wanting to highlight the flashiness of the Zoomin theme, and also leave 
> room to possibly diverge as needed (i.e. less "linear")
>
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyChrome version 0.5

[Matabele]

Hi

My security settings seem to prevent dragging the crx file from 
unauthorised sites.

regards

On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:32:30 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Looks good,
>
> You should find it in your apps page in Google Chrome (chrome://apps/). I 
> don't have an icon yet for it. Also, you can drag the crx file in if you 
> want to just use the release. Either one works.
>
> -Arlen
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Matabele <matabe...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I installed from source and Chrome returned this error:
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-arLSRipQpOE/VrDoIELDi4I/AmI/3uMrtGnEFL4/s1600/160202-0001.png>
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 2 February 2016 00:58:43 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I've released an update to the TiddlyChrome app. You can find it on 
>>> GitHub.
>>>
>>> This release no longer requires the TiddlyChromeSaver plugin. There were 
>>> a few minor feature changes and a lot of code changes.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Arlen22/tiddly-chrome-app/releases/tag/v0.5-beta
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>> -Arlen
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

In my environment, those dropdowns have remained the original silver, and 
don't respond to theme colour settings. I don't know which setting is 
supposed to apply, and I can't see the color :-/

I'll have to style them separately -- I think they need widening and 
shortening in any case. The colour scheme is becoming bit of a mess now as 
my emoji have been fiddling with the settings without really knowing what 
they're doing :-)

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 20:14:21 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Turning into a very colorful project! Great work!
>
> A detail, the emoji dropdown from clicking the tagpill has a coloring so 
> you can't really see the emojis unless you hover.
>
> <:-)
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi

My emoji have gone crazy <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/> -- they've 
been playing with my colour scheme while I wasn't watching :-)
-- no changes to the utility
-- improvements to make the selection of emoji to create a package of emoji 
tiddlers a little easier
-- new ideas on pinning tiddlers in the sidebar using emoji

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ERah8FRdJcg/Vq48-Cu34II/AlQ/5cGgDBEcGtA/s1600/sidebar.png>
regards

On Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:55:32 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Playing around with the ActionListops widget, and came up with a simple 
> utility for editing tags <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>, which I 
> thought might be of use:
> -- Have you ever wanted to quickly add a tag from the view template rather 
> than entering edit mode?
> -- this utility opens with the info button (available as a tab)
> -- may be instlalled above the tabs by overwriting the system tiddler (as 
> in the demo wiki)
> -- multiple tags may be added in one go
> -- existing tags may be deleted with a click
> -- button to delete all tags
> -- fetch the current tags for editing
> -- or fetch the tags from one tiddler
> -- and tag other tiddlers with the same tags
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

This is what I see in  Chrome on my Mac (FF is similar):



That colour on your Chrome is difficult -- do I go dark or light?

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 21:12:55 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Hm, I checked again and discovered the following. Top is in FF, lower in 
> Chrome. Win10.
>

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[tw] Re: Article about rediscovering TiddlyWiki

[Matabele]

Hi Jeremy

Great review for a grand effort :-D

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 14:38:34 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I thought this article was pretty cool because it gives the perspective of 
> someone who has been away from TiddlyWiki for a few years: 
>
>
> http://www.networkworld.com/article/3028098/open-source-tools/tiddlywiki-a-free-open-source-wiki-revisited.html
>  
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi 

Thought this might be of interest -- this is how it looks on my Mac in 
Firefox and Safari:

 


 


>
> This is what I see in  Chrome on my Mac (FF is similar):
>
>
> 
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple emojis like this

[Matabele]

P. S.

I think the expression must be a translation from a German word :-D

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 10:44:57 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
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> Hi Tobias
>
> "Mixed radix positional notation" is simple a notation like we use to 
> denote time
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple emojis like this

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

"Mixed radix positional notation" is simple a notation like we use to 
denote time: '32 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 45 minutes, 15 seconds'
Each position has a base unit which is a multiple of another (that's the 
"positional notation" part), and each position has a different base (that's 
the "mixed radix" part.)
In other words, emoji could be used to write a number system -- in this 
case for creating tags. The predictable sequence is necessary to enable 
sorting of the tag thus written with emoji into a predictable ordered 
sequence.
As a matter of interest, there's an idea circulating that thinks the next 
alphabet will employ emoji as its alphabet -- this promises to form the 
basis of the first successfully adopted international written language.

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 03:20:58 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> I had a very hard time understanding what you were actually suggesting
> and where it could perhaps play a role and how. :D
>
> Can you perhaps give some "real-world" example of what you suggested there
> as well as how and where you see it applied?
>

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[tw] Re: How to get multiple text fields in Tiddler?

[Matabele]

Hi Sebas

Nice tip! Might be an idea to do the same for the SideBar listings.

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 14:12:27 UTC+2, Sebas wrote:
>
> here is a simplified example I made:
> Customizing Tiddler Titles 
> 
>  on 
> http://sebas-uk.tiddlyspot.com/
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[tw] Re: How to get multiple text fields in Tiddler?

[Matabele]

Hi Sebas

Perhaps, instead of transcluding the contents of other fields, you should 
exchange the contents with the 'text' field. That way, you can edit your 
text in the text field, then exchange the contents with another field, edit 
the text in another language in the text field ... and so on.

Viewing could be done the same way.

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:14:42 UTC+2, Sebas wrote:
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> Hi  everyone,
>
> Have to say again, TiddlyWiki is great ... and more people need to know 
> about it! ...
>
> But my question: is there a way to get more than one "text" field in a 
> tiddler?
>
> I know I can just show the text of any field with {{!!myTextField}}, 
> however this is not wikified correctly ... I think because there are no 
> newline characters in it.
> I want to have only one tiddler for one topic/semantic unit. At the moment 
> I use something like this in one tiddler:
> /define text_lang_en() 
> /define text_lang_fr() 
> <>
> and so on. And then each tiddler has a macro that displays the correct 
> language. But this is really not nice when editing it, I would rather like 
> to be able to change the language with the ActionWidget so that the 
> tiddlers text field refers to "text_en" or "text_fr" ... and the editor 
> displays an empty new tiddler (for that language).
> I know there are other means for translations, but this would not only be 
> useful for translations.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any ideas on this ...
>
> Cheers,
> Sebas
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[tw] Re: How to get multiple text fields in Tiddler?

[Matabele]

Hi

Might work quite well if you exchanged the contents out to one or more data 
dictionaries instead of a large number of fields in the current tiddler. 
Once the dictionaries and swopping mechanism have been implemented -- the 
process of editing should be transparent, and you'll no longer have to keep 
track of all the bits and pieces yourself. You can, therefore, employ as 
many dictionaries as needed to keep things arranged in logical order.

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 14:46:35 UTC+2, Sebas wrote:
>
> Hey Matabele,
>
> Yeah, thanks! That sounds like an idea I have not tried yet for text 
> fields. And I am currently doing that already with my user interface. I 
> have a dictionary tiddler that provides the names for each button in my 
> TiddlyWiki (tiddler "/$:/./user_interface") and when the user changes the 
> language, I just set this dictionary tiddler to the localized version like 
> so:
>
> <$button>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="/$:/./user_interface_EN" $field="title" 
> $value="/$:/./user_interface" />ENGLISH
> 
>
> I guess I could just swap the text fields in a similar way.
>
> In regards to the sidebar and search fields, etc. - my approach is to 
> leave most core tiddlers unchanged. I have "user versions" for the side bar 
> and search fields so that they do not get to see the advanced search or the 
> actual tiddler titles.
>
> Thanks for the tip... I will try this.
>
> Cheers,
> Sebas
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Unwanted behaviour when clicking duplicated tag pills

[Matabele]

Hi Thomas

There's a <> macro which often simplifies things -- for example, try 
this (in a tiddler with some tags.)

<$list filter="[tags[]]"><>

This can then be placed within another list -- for example try this on 
tw5.com:

<$list filter="[tag[Concepts]]">

{{!!title}} <$list filter="[is[current]tags[]]"><>


-- the outer listing uses a filter to select the tiddlers from which you 
wish to view the tags
-- the inner list then displays the list of tags for the current tiddler

regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:31:12 UTC+2, Thomas Woite wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am all knew to tiddlywiki and facing the same problem. I try to use the 
> task example from the TW5 Homepage and enhance it, so that right next to 
> each task I can see the tags attached to this tiddler.
>

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[tw] Re: How to get multiple text fields in Tiddler?

[Matabele]

Hi Sebas

This doesn't entirely address your problem, but might help a little.

Instead of {{!!MyTextField}} -- try this:

<$transclude field="MyTextField" mode="block"/>


However, I'm inclined to agree with Tobias -- I think it will be more 
flexible to create separate tiddlers for each language, then transclude the 
tiddlers (the 'text' field of each language tiddler.) In this way, the 
material can be edited as normal, and transclusion is simpler.)

A thought: if you peruse the material here 
 -- I have been playing around with 
'marking' tiddler titles with emoji. Perhaps you could use the relevant 
flag to mark the tiddler for each language. This might tidy up your naming 
scheme, as tiddlers 'marked' in this way can have the same plain text title.




regards

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:41:57 UTC+2, Sebas wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> Just to give an example: If I create my own editor/menu for my tiddlers 
> and use something like:
>
> <$edit-text tiddler="Target" field="text"/>
>
> In this example, I can put normal wikitext and macro definitions in the 
> text field. Everything works just fine.
>
> But if I want my own second text field like so:
>
> <$edit-text tiddler="Target" field="MyTextField"/>
>
> The widget will change to a one-line field and if I display 
> {{!!MyTextField}}, this will not display like a normal tiddler, because 
> many things will not work ... like macro definitions or more complex 
> formating.
>
> Is there a way to set any field to type "text/vnd.tiddlywiki"? I guess 
> that is all I am looking for.
>
> Best regards,
> Sebas
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

Mostly since I was intrigued by the ability to easily insert a hex code 
into names and tags (making them unique) which, at the same time, are 
pretty (the Mac already has a facility to create tags and aliases for 
files, and a good selection of file icons.)

I alway like to investigate my options :-)

regards

On Friday, 29 January 2016 12:09:51 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele,
>  
>
>> And now my dev wikis have titles like tagger.html instead of 
>> simple-tagger-dev.html, and my backups have names like tagger.html :-)
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Feedback for TiddlyClip

[Matabele]

Hi

I did most of these steps, and I knew how to install an extension locally 
-- but stuck when it came to: "then load unpacked extension" -- it wasn't 
clear that the whole extension folder must be selected. I was looking for 
something more specific, and didn't know what to select.

Anyway, I now have it installed --  many thanks.

regards

On Friday, 29 January 2016 11:16:28 UTC+2, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele,
>
> there is a brief mention on http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com about 
> installing on chrome:
>
> The chrome addon needs to be added locally. Right click the link below to 
> save the addon locally. (unzip it)
>
> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/raw/0.0.8/tiddlyclip.zip
>
> click the menu button then click "more tools" then extensions, then load 
> unpacked extension
>
> Note that tiddlyclip only works with tiddlywikis loaded as normal 
> webpages, not as apps.
>
> cheers
> BJ
>
> On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 3:49:53 AM UTC, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Please could you make an extension for Chrome, or, if there is one, 
>> describe how to install it (the repo on Github looks like it might contain 
>> one, but I can't wok out how to install it.)
>>
>> reagards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:19:16 UTC+2, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am working on necessary changes to tiddlyclip in order support future 
>>> versions of firefox. As I am current focused on tiddlyclip, this would be a 
>>> good time to let me know of anything that you think could be improved or 
>>> added to tiddlyclip or its documentation, or maybe you have a particular 
>>> use or setup to share that could be added to tiddlyclip's website?
>>>
>>> all the best
>>>
>>> BJ
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 will be on Thursday 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC

[Matabele]

Hi Jed

Many thanks -- I think I'll manage with your instructions (don't know until 
I've tried.)

This stuff need s to be in an easily accessible central repo somewhere -- 
ah, what we need is a dev plugin :-)

regards

On Friday, 29 January 2016 10:46:49 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I imagine Tobias could write up a clearer set of steps (or improve this 
> one), but wehn I made my plugin library I wrote how I did it here. 
> http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Making%20a%20Plugin%20Library
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 will be on Thursday 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

I have now had a look at the plugin mechanism: since the hooks to 3rd party 
libraries are only small files, perhaps a single '3rd party plugins' plugin 
could be added to the core plugins -- containing these files for trusted 
3rd party plugin libraries (along with a suitable warning.)

A 3rd party library could do the same -- this would create the necessary 
distributed network of links to available plugins.

regards

On Friday, 29 January 2016 12:59:53 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> That is not exactly true. You simply need to import a tiddler that is NOT 
> a plugin. All it does is to define a path to the library and some field 
> describing that plugin resource. There can sure be a list of trusted plugin 
> sources that actually come shipped with the core... where user's can feel 
> confident that they're not going to install entirely experimental features, 
> but possibly / hopefully the more stable ones.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi

I have improved the mechanism for selecting emoji 
<http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/> for your tag icons. There's now a 
rather long list of checkboxes from which you can make your selection, 
followed by a few buttons that will create a JSON package of your selected 
emoji tiddlers to import into your wiki.

There's also a small change to the plugin -- this will need updating to 
correctly list the emoji in the dropdown.

regards

On Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:55:32 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Playing around with the ActionListops widget, and came up with a simple 
> utility for editing tags <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>, which I 
> thought might be of use:
> -- Have you ever wanted to quickly add a tag from the view template rather 
> than entering edit mode?
> -- this utility opens with the info button (available as a tab)
> -- may be instlalled above the tabs by overwriting the system tiddler (as 
> in the demo wiki)
> -- multiple tags may be added in one go
> -- existing tags may be deleted with a click
> -- button to delete all tags
> -- fetch the current tags for editing
> -- or fetch the tags from one tiddler
> -- and tag other tiddlers with the same tags
>
> Anyway -- I have posted a demo here <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>
> -- a few hints on how to use the utility are provided
> -- play around with this for a while and see what you think
> -- all comments are welcome :-) 
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hMj6mQLFdVw/Vp5idIae0mI/AjE/JptdeXyvsBg/s1600/simple%2Btagger.png>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 will be on Thursday 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC

[Matabele]

Hi Hegart

Just tried a post over there 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywiki-announcements> as an 
experiment -- seems that posts need to be approved by a moderator. Seems 
unnecessary as this isn't the case with the main forums and likely means it 
won't attract much use (hardly been used since 2011.)

regards

On Friday, 29 January 2016 07:51:59 UTC+2, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Further to what Matabele just said above, there is the TiddlyWiki 
> Announcements forum 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywiki-announcements> which 
> is also underutilized. I was thinking it might be a good place to announce 
> new/updated plugins. Just a thought.
>
> On Friday, 29 January 2016 17:51:04 UTC+13, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I must apologise for this stream of posts :-/
>>
>> Currently, the Github discussions seem to become cluttered with chat, and 
>> the user group gets cluttered with dev stuff, whilst the dev group gets 
>> under-utilised. One way to improve matters would be to link each PR or 
>> issue on Github to a topic thread on the dev group.
>>
>> All that's required is to always establish a related topic on the dev 
>> group whenever a PR/Issue is submitted on Github, and place links at the 
>> top of the dev topic to the related Github discussion and vice versa. This 
>> tends to happen anyway, but in a rather haphazard fashion (causing posts 
>> that should be on the dev topic to be posted to the Github discussion and 
>> vice versa.)
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Tuesday, 26 January 2016 12:03:04 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 on 
>>> Thursday 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a 
>>> guest or you can view the proceedings live or from the archive.
>>>
>>> Jed Carty will be joining me to talk about the work he’s been leading in 
>>> the community on federation, with some exciting experiments to show.
>>>
>>> I’d also like to take the chance to do some thinking about the goals and 
>>> roadmap for the project in 2016.
>>>
>>> http://hangout-96.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/events/cierbql0khu11gtcc4d00t6pkjg
>>>
>>> As ever, please reply here if there’s anything you’d particularly like 
>>> to see discussed.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation on github

[Matabele]

Hi
 
Thought this might be of interest 

 to 
your work -- a TW can be served straight from chrome, and accessed from 
anywhere on the local network (and with a re-direct on your AP, from 
anywhere on the web.)

I've set up one wiki like this as the remote, and run my local wiki in the 
browser. Great for experimentation.

regards


On Thursday, 28 January 2016 22:21:41 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I put the code (both javascript and wikitext) for my twederation work on 
> github https://github.com/inmysocks/TW5-TWederation
> You can see the site showing off things with instructions for joining the 
> network 
> http://tiddlerbundletest.tiddlyspot.com/#How%20to%20set%20up%20your%20own%20federated%20tiddlywiki%20-%20inmysocks
>
> I have been sitting it the tiddlywiki irc channel if anyone has questions 
> or wants to help out.
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation on github

[Matabele]

Hi

Now, if I could run tiddlyspot from there ... I could serve several wikis 
from my browser, and save to the server.

Is there any source for the tiddlyspot codebase available (and, if so, 
could it be set-up to run in this environment)?

regards

On Friday, 29 January 2016 08:40:12 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi
>  
> Thought this might be of interest 
> <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/web-server-for-chrome/ofhbbkphhbklhfoeikjpcbhemlocgigb/related>
>  to 
> your work -- a TW can be served straight from chrome, and accessed from 
> anywhere on the local network (and with a re-direct on your AP, from 
> anywhere on the web.)
>
> I've set up one wiki like this as the remote, and run my local wiki in the 
> browser. Great for experimentation.
>
> regards
>
>
> On Thursday, 28 January 2016 22:21:41 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> I put the code (both javascript and wikitext) for my twederation work on 
>> github https://github.com/inmysocks/TW5-TWederation
>> You can see the site showing off things with instructions for joining the 
>> network 
>> http://tiddlerbundletest.tiddlyspot.com/#How%20to%20set%20up%20your%20own%20federated%20tiddlywiki%20-%20inmysocks
>>
>> I have been sitting it the tiddlywiki irc channel if anyone has questions 
>> or wants to help out.
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Emoji One in TiddlyWiki ?

[Matabele]

Hi

A thought: haven't tested this out ... yet.

Serve the emoji fonts in your browser with this. 


regards

On Saturday, 21 March 2015 12:52:40 UTC+2, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've try this morning to add *Emoji One* to my TiddlyWiki, but failed for 
> now.
>
>- http://emojione.com/
>- http://emojione.com/demo
>- http://emojione.com/developers
>- http://emoji.codes/
>
> Does anyone can try and teach me how ?
>
> (I don't know what tag I had to add to simply load external JS even before 
> to add js directly into TW).
>
> Thanks,
> Sylvain
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple emojis like this

[Matabele]

Hi

Here's an emoji cheatsheet to borrow syntax from: 
http://sheet.shiar.nl/emoji

regards

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 15:22:04 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Simple emojis - two ideas (untried), using macros or transclusions
>
>
> Unicode has a lot of Emoji thingies . See 
> also this Github for Unicode Emojis 
>  
>
> We could probably implement macros for wikitext emojis;
>
> /define panda() 
>
> Ideally we should be able to do:
> /define :)() ☺
>
> Maybe we could introduce either a character exception for macro title 
> definitions or delimiters like:
> /define ":)"() ☺
>
>
> Unfortunately it would not be 100% as elegant to call this
>
> <<:)>> or perhaps <<":)">>
>
>
> OR simply use
>
> Transclusions
>
> where the Character or even image is the tiddler content.
>
> {{panda}}
>
> ..and again, ideally:
>
> {{:)}}
>
> which might require some delimiter
>
> {{":)"}}
>
> or a wikitext implementation like
>
> [emoji[:)]]
>
> ...but I feel this is much to long to be practical.
>
>
> Obviously, the real ideal is just to type the few characters and they're 
> parsed into the symbol. 
>
>
> Side idea: @name is parsed to display that individuals avatar.
>
>
> <:-)
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

And now my dev wikis have titles like tagger.html instead of 
simple-tagger-dev.html, and my backups have names like tagger.html :-)

regards


On Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:27:53 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele,
>  
>
>> For a more practical example -- we can have several tiddlers titled 
>> 'Chapter 1' but, one is marked with a '1st draft' emoji, another with a 
>> '2nd draft' emoji', one with 'final draft' emoji, and so on.
>>
>
> Definitely sounds like a workable solution and also more visually groups 
> tiddlers, assuming that those in one collection would all start with the 
> same emoji and those in another ...with another.
>
> So, you'd have something like a "project icon" / "root icon", which could 
> be passed down using a custom clone button that appends it to all 
> descendants.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple emojis like this

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

Sukima is using the standard emoji popup keyboard for Mac in the animation 
-- found it myself shortly afterward.

With a popup keyboard like that, emoji can easily be inserted anywhere in 
the wiki. Tags names can easily include emoji -- but once created, it isn't 
easy to change the emoji (like changing an svg icon), without creating a 
tiddler container for the emoji (which is terribly inefficient.) 
Effectively the tag must be renamed -- which involves deleting all the old 
tags and adding new tags with the new name.

Nevertheless, the most useful feature of emoji, is to include them in 
titles and tag names. Simply insert them in the plain text string with a 
popup emoji keyboard. Much can be done with this as is.

Inserting them amongst text and wikitext is a trivial matter, hardly worth 
creating plain text keyboard long-cuts :-) I'm sure support for emoji 
keyboards will improve rapidly on newer devices and OS.

regards

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 15:46:25 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> On the other hand, *Sukima* might just have been a step ahead:
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2256#issuecomment-176184426
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] What widgets that trigger actions can we use in TW5?

[Matabele]

Hi sini-Kit

The action widgets need slight modifications to work with Tobias's widget 
-- the $action-setfield in the demo has been modified, but the 
$action-listops from v.5.1.10 has no such modification. I'll have  look at 
it sometime soon.

In the meantime, play around with the version of $action-setfield from the 
demo.

regards

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 11:20:07 UTC+2, sini-Kit wrote:
>
> I like your widget, Tobias. But I cant make it work. for example with 
> oninput any key (a, b, c .)  I want to make two actions
>
> <$action-listops $field="myfield" $subfilter=$key$/>
> <$action-listops $field="myfield" $subfilter="then"/>
>
> so while I input letters I want to see in myfield "a then b then c 
>  .."  
>
> so it will be a kind of log of all keys I put to input
>
> среда, 27 января 2016 г., 1:56:37 UTC+3 пользователь Tobias Beer написал:
>
>> Hi sini-Kit,
>>
>> I was experimenting with a generic EventWidget 
>> 
>> and if any new features should be welcome in the next release
>> I am really hoping to see something like this be part of it.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

And there's very little likelihood of a false match with even a single 
emoji unicode. With a couple in an unusual combination, it would almost 
comprise a unique ID across all wikis.

I thought more of using a different set of emoji in each of my wikis (one 
in each title) -- then, if I copy one over, there should be no conflicts.

regards

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 14:08:47 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Matabele,
>
> I really like the emoji-approach to tagging.
>>
>> Begs for more explorations.
>
> I think they should actually be in an emoji list-field, though... possibly.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi

Uploaded another version with a few tweaks 
<http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/> -- I have done some of the heavy 
lifting and converted many of the emoji to tiddlers, suitable for use as 
tag icons. This makes the emoji dropdown on the demo very long; rather copy 
a few of the emoji tiddlers over to your wiki before you try the emoji 
dropdown.

Otherwise, I have been playing around with emoji; there's some new material 
and a few experiments to check out.

regards

On Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:55:32 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Playing around with the ActionListops widget, and came up with a simple 
> utility for editing tags <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>, which I 
> thought might be of use:
> -- Have you ever wanted to quickly add a tag from the view template rather 
> than entering edit mode?
> -- this utility opens with the info button (available as a tab)
> -- may be instlalled above the tabs by overwriting the system tiddler (as 
> in the demo wiki)
> -- multiple tags may be added in one go
> -- existing tags may be deleted with a click
> -- button to delete all tags
> -- fetch the current tags for editing
> -- or fetch the tags from one tiddler
> -- and tag other tiddlers with the same tags
>
> Anyway -- I have posted a demo here <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>
> -- a few hints on how to use the utility are provided
> -- play around with this for a while and see what you think
> -- all comments are welcome :-) 
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hMj6mQLFdVw/Vp5idIae0mI/AjE/JptdeXyvsBg/s1600/simple%2Btagger.png>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 will be on Thursday 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC

[Matabele]

Hi

A couple of ideas re: plugin libraries:

Could Tobias please document the process of setting up a plugin library 
like his?

On this score, in order to use Tobias's library, I must first install a 
plugin. Therefore, why not include plugin library plugins into the tw5 
plugin library as a 'hook' into 3rd party plugin libraries?

Perhaps it would be more convenient for some plugin authors to submit their 
plugins to a 3rd party plugin library than to the core?

In summary: the core plugin library should contain mostly plugin library 
plugins as hooks to 3rd party plugin libraries rather than the plugins 
themselves -- then, rather than submitting my contribution to the core 
plugin library, an author can submit to a 3rd party plugin library (or 
maintain their own 3rd party plugin library.)

This could also help with the TW federation infrastructure: a 3rd party 
plugin library could be used as a intermediary for communication. In this 
respect, it might be advantageous to produce an optimised, uglified and 
stripped down version of the core specifically for the purpose. As it's 
currently necessary to download the entire wiki to extract a single post or 
comment -- the version opened in the iframe needs to be as small as 
possible (all unnecessary functionality removed.)

regards

On Tuesday, 26 January 2016 12:03:04 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 on Thursday 
> 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a guest or you 
> can view the proceedings live or from the archive.
>
> Jed Carty will be joining me to talk about the work he’s been leading in 
> the community on federation, with some exciting experiments to show.
>
> I’d also like to take the chance to do some thinking about the goals and 
> roadmap for the project in 2016.
>
> http://hangout-96.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/cierbql0khu11gtcc4d00t6pkjg
>
> As ever, please reply here if there’s anything you’d particularly like to 
> see discussed.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 will be on Thursday 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC

[Matabele]

Hi

I must apologise for this stream of posts :-/

Currently, the Github discussions seem to become cluttered with chat, and 
the user group gets cluttered with dev stuff, whilst the dev group gets 
under-utilised. One way to improve matters would be to link each PR or 
issue on Github to a topic thread on the dev group.

All that's required is to always establish a related topic on the dev group 
whenever a PR/Issue is submitted on Github, and place links at the top of 
the dev topic to the related Github discussion and vice versa. This tends 
to happen anyway, but in a rather haphazard fashion (causing posts that 
should be on the dev topic to be posted to the Github discussion and vice 
versa.)

regards

On Tuesday, 26 January 2016 12:03:04 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 on Thursday 
> 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a guest or you 
> can view the proceedings live or from the archive.
>
> Jed Carty will be joining me to talk about the work he’s been leading in 
> the community on federation, with some exciting experiments to show.
>
> I’d also like to take the chance to do some thinking about the goals and 
> roadmap for the project in 2016.
>
> http://hangout-96.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/cierbql0khu11gtcc4d00t6pkjg
>
> As ever, please reply here if there’s anything you’d particularly like to 
> see discussed.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Alex

An emoji is just a unicode font -- what you see is an icon (usually a png 
or svg) -- but the underlying code is a hex string. What you get is a 
pretty representation of an ugly hex string.

You can do things like this -- many tiddlers with the 'same' title -- but 
each is proceeded by a fairly unique hex string.

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--KOvqd70lts/VqoZUE18XWI/AkE/lGBBJ6fM4Ic/s1600/tiddlers.png>
regards

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>
> Hi Matabele,
>
> my daughter (6) will love this
>
>
> How is it that tiddler titles can be an emoji?
>
> Alex
>
> On 28 January 2016 at 13:11, Matabele <matabe...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tobias
>>
>> And there's very little likelihood of a false match with even a single 
>> emoji unicode. With a couple in an unusual combination, it would almost 
>> comprise a unique ID across all wikis.
>>
>> I thought more of using a different set of emoji in each of my wikis (one 
>> in each title) -- then, if I copy one over, there should be no conflicts.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Thursday, 28 January 2016 14:08:47 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Matabele,
>>>
>>> I really like the emoji-approach to tagging.
>>>>
>>>> Begs for more explorations.
>>>
>>> I think they should actually be in an emoji list-field, though... 
>>> possibly.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Tobias.
>>>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 will be on Thursday 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC

[Matabele]

P.S.

Something I omitted: the need for better documentation for the available 
core functions, including a detailed description of the type and purpose of 
each input parameter and the returned output (even a listing of what's 
available would be useful.) I often write code, only to later find a core 
function which I could have used.

regards

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>
> I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 on Thursday 
> 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a guest or you 
> can view the proceedings live or from the archive.
>
> Jed Carty will be joining me to talk about the work he’s been leading in 
> the community on federation, with some exciting experiments to show.
>
> I’d also like to take the chance to do some thinking about the goals and 
> roadmap for the project in 2016.
>
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>
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[tw] Re: Feedback for TiddlyClip

[Matabele]

Hi

Please could you make an extension for Chrome, or, if there is one, 
describe how to install it (the repo on Github looks like it might contain 
one, but I can't wok out how to install it.)

reagards

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> Hi all,
> I am working on necessary changes to tiddlyclip in order support future 
> versions of firefox. As I am current focused on tiddlyclip, this would be a 
> good time to let me know of anything that you think could be improved or 
> added to tiddlyclip or its documentation, or maybe you have a particular 
> use or setup to share that could be added to tiddlyclip's website?
>
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>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 will be on Thursday 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC

[Matabele]

Hi

A few matters arising from the hangout with regard lowering the barriers to 
contribution (I am still in the process of overcoming them):

1. The style guide for code was hard to find.
Although I now have a copy of TiddlyWiki/Dev on my HDD, I couldn't tell you 
where to find this on the www. This suggests a necessity for a new 'field' 
in the ControlPanel/Info -- namely a "Loaded From" field.

It would be nice if this were automatically filled in whenever a wiki loads 
from a url  but, if this were technically difficult, it could be manually 
entered by the author. This needs some king of switch mechanism, as it 
would be useless if I downloaded a wiki from the www, saved it to a path on 
my HDD, and when I reloaded, the field reported the path on my HDD.

2. In addition to a style guide, we need to publish settings for a few of 
the common automated formatters.
I currently tend to use JSFormat which uses the jsbeautify library, and/or 
Atom Beautify, as I find these can be configured to closely match the TW 
style. There are likely a few other auto formatting libraries fro which 
settings needs be published.

3. The TW style makes auto-formatting difficult.
   (a) all of the libraries use a space after the comma in function 
parameters by default. There's a good reason for this; parameters lists can 
then be wrapped at one of these spaces at the desired wrapping width 
(another standard which should be set; perhaps 80.) Why not adopt this 
convention as standard in the TW code style?
   (b) the (function(){  })(); wrapper necessitates a manual reformat: 
firstly, to remove the additional tab between the wrappers, and secondly, 
to insert a space before the first curly bracket (which is required for all 
other functions.)
   
4. There is a need for good documentation describing the whole process of 
setting up a standard development environment for TW using a selection of 
common editors, git and Github (something akin to gitflow.) I might 
undertake this at some stage, but as this is still a work-in-progress for 
me, I can't at this time.

6. A niggle, but one that needs attention: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2227
For the past 6 months I was unable to use git for TW5, or build a nodejs 
version from the master repo due to this bug. I thought this resulted from 
something in my environment and went through several cycles of deleting all 
of my branches in an attempt to fix this. Only recently did someone 
identify a fix (my PR's now have to include this fix, as I had to merge the 
fix into my branch to continue working on Github.)

7. Points 2 and 3 would go a long way toward tidying up commit histories, 
but:
(a) a guide is still needed with respect how to collapse my own commit 
histories into a single commit to the master repo
(b) a guide is still needed with respect how to separate the file changes 
into separate commits to the master repo (once collapsed.)

regards

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>
> I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #96 on Thursday 
> 28th January at 3pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a guest or you 
> can view the proceedings live or from the archive.
>
> Jed Carty will be joining me to talk about the work he’s been leading in 
> the community on federation, with some exciting experiments to show.
>
> I’d also like to take the chance to do some thinking about the goals and 
> roadmap for the project in 2016.
>
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>
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>
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[tw] Re: Feedback for TiddlyClip

[Matabele]

Hi

Just an idea: Would it not be possible to dock a wiki into TW Desktop, and 
clip from browsers into this docked wiki?

regards

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> Hi all,
> I am working on necessary changes to tiddlyclip in order support future 
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> good time to let me know of anything that you think could be improved or 
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> use or setup to share that could be added to tiddlyclip's website?
>
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>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Alex

For a more practical example -- we can have several tiddlers titled 
'Chapter 1' but, one is marked with a '1st draft' emoji, another with a 
'2nd draft' emoji', one with 'final draft' emoji, and so on.

regards

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>
> Hi Matabele,
>
> my daughter (6) will love this
>
>
> How is it that tiddler titles can be an emoji?
>
> Alex
>
> On 28 January 2016 at 13:11, Matabele <matabe...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tobias
>>
>> And there's very little likelihood of a false match with even a single 
>> emoji unicode. With a couple in an unusual combination, it would almost 
>> comprise a unique ID across all wikis.
>>
>> I thought more of using a different set of emoji in each of my wikis (one 
>> in each title) -- then, if I copy one over, there should be no conflicts.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Thursday, 28 January 2016 14:08:47 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Matabele,
>>>
>>> I really like the emoji-approach to tagging.
>>>>
>>>> Begs for more explorations.
>>>
>>> I think they should actually be in an emoji list-field, though... 
>>> possibly.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Tobias.
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Emoji One in TiddlyWiki ?

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

Guess they're counting on cheap memory :-) I suppose, this could be 
practical if loaded onto a chip specifically for the purpose -- could also 
use compressed versions, depending upon the device.

regards

On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 17:06:06 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
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> the "apple" font which amazingly weighs in at 34 mb 
> .
>  
> Can you believe they actually published that? :D
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

OK -- I think I have a solution for adding a selection of emoji 
<http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>:
-- currently, emoji have to be copied from the table into individual 
tiddlers
-- you'll need to create tiddlers for the emoji you wish to use
-- and copy them over to your wiki
-- most of the emoji display in my environment (Chrome/IOS)
-- you'd best make your own selection from those that display in your 
environment(s.)

Working on getting the macro to fetch the emoji from a field (other than 
the text field) -- but currently, although I can get this to work if I 
transclude into the text field of another tiddler, the references fail to 
work in the macro :-(

regards

On Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:55:32 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Playing around with the ActionListops widget, and came up with a simple 
> utility for editing tags <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>, which I 
> thought might be of use:
> -- Have you ever wanted to quickly add a tag from the view template rather 
> than entering edit mode?
> -- this utility opens with the info button (available as a tab)
> -- may be instlalled above the tabs by overwriting the system tiddler (as 
> in the demo wiki)
> -- multiple tags may be added in one go
> -- existing tags may be deleted with a click
> -- button to delete all tags
> -- fetch the current tags for editing
> -- or fetch the tags from one tiddler
> -- and tag other tiddlers with the same tags
>
> Anyway -- I have posted a demo here <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>
> -- a few hints on how to use the utility are provided
> -- play around with this for a while and see what you think
> -- all comments are welcome :-) 
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hMj6mQLFdVw/Vp5idIae0mI/AjE/JptdeXyvsBg/s1600/simple%2Btagger.png>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

Has certainly brightened up my dev wiki! Yet to move the new features 
across to my regular wikis (I mostly wanted the simple-tagger.)

I like the idea of a couple of emoji as buttons for the drop downs -- the 
double tag-pills are redundant. Must now decide the best use for the tag 
pill? 

regards

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> hehe, emojis - this is beginning to look really fun, in the positive sense!
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

Seems the 'icon' field of a tag tiddler expects the title of a tiddler and 
transcludes its text field -- if you insert a full TextReference to an 
image, it fails. My efforts to reference emoji from a field/index have been 
fruitless :-(

Pity -- seems a huge waste of space to devote an entire tiddler ti hold a 
single emoji.

regards

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>
> Hi
>
> Playing around with the ActionListops widget, and came up with a simple 
> utility for editing tags <http://simple-tagger.tiddlyspot.com/>, which I 
> thought might be of use:
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Emoji One in TiddlyWiki ?

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

The emoji font file includes references to the font set -- the font set 
itself also has a size in the order of 4MB. The major saving is, therefore, 
that only one font set needs to be loaded on each device, and only a 
relatively small file included in each wiki. In addition, many new devices 
will come standard with the emoji font set anyway.

Really like what you've done with emoji one -- makes the acquisition of a 
few extra icons into a wiki straightforward, and until emoji are widely 
supported, offers an interim solution. I think both options should be 
offered -- those that can use the more efficient emoji font set should be 
accommodated, and a limited number of svg's should be made available for 
older devices.

regards

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>
> Hi Matabele,
>
> http://getemoji.com
>>
>
> Thanks for those, didn't know they were available to that extend.
>
> Nevertheless, I played a little with *EmojiOne* SVGs here:
>
> http://emoji.tiddlyspot.com
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] What widgets that trigger actions can we use in TW5?

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

Would be particularly handy to have buttons which invoked a different set 
of actions on: 'click'/'right-click' (set/reset.) No need then for complex 
$reveal widgets :-)

regards

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>
> Hi sini-Kit,
>
> I was experimenting with a generic EventWidget 
> 
> and if any new features should be welcome in the next release
> I am really hoping to see something like this be part of it.
>
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>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Emoji One in TiddlyWiki ?

[Matabele]

Hi

Most of these cut and paste emoji work in my browser (Chrome/iOS): 
http://getemoji.com/ (attached json file facilitates importing to your 
wiki.)
-- if these could be tested in different environments
-- those that don't commonly work can be removed
-- leaving a set suitable for TW5

regards

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> I've try this morning to add *Emoji One* to my TiddlyWiki, but failed for 
> now.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] What widgets that trigger actions can we use in TW5?

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

Yep -- I noticed that the event widget is general purpose -- and 
modification of the action widgets looks to be straightforward :-)

Simply pointing out one limitation I've often come up against.

regards 

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>
> There isn't even a "button"... there's only a context for which events are 
> registered. Could be a button, could be something else entirely. 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simple tagging utility

[Matabele]

Hi Mat

Is this  what you had in mind?

Still need to work out how to break the icons into groups to avoid the tall 
dropdown. 

regards

On Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:21:00 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> in selecting the icon... I'm not really interested in it's real path name. 
> It would be cooler with just rows showing the icons.
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