[tw5] Re: [TW5] Presenting the Details Widget

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi folks, nice to see that my widget is in use!

I know it isn’t perfect, but I have no intention to make any changes soon – 
you are more than welcome to take it and adapt it to any purpose you want.

The summary variable takes only text as input and produces only text as 
output. It is not wikified and not HTML-ified either. This is not according 
to any standards and the reason is lack of development skills on my side. I 
did my best at the time ... So that would be an improvement I would like to 
see myself. At the moment it is impossible to get a nice display for 
something like this:

<$details summary="CO2 equivalent">
Details about CO,,2,, conversion


So good luck to anyone willing to invest time into this, while I try to 
increase the production and use of renewable energy in my neighbourhood.
Cheers,
Thomas

cj.v...@gmail.com schrieb am Dienstag, 18. Mai 2021 um 14:25:32 UTC+2:

> Hey, dollars to donuts: any one thing that might be useful to one person 
> for however many purposes, it will be useful to a bunch of other folk too 
> for same or other interesting purposes.
>
> I'm all for anything that helps reduce mouse-clicky-induced tendinitis of 
> the finger knuckle.
>
> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 8:14:45 AM UTC-3 si wrote:
>
>> I agree that having a link in the summary is probably not useful in most 
>> contexts, however in my case I use the details tag to display backlinks. I 
>> have a link to jump to the relevant tiddler, but also a dropdown to display 
>> the textual context.
>> On Tuesday, 18 May 2021 at 00:12:29 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Dang, that is some good sleuthing.
>>>
>>> Although I still think nested clicky areas is a bad idea (instant 
>>> cognitive glitching over here, maybe a little GUI OCPD action going on), it 
>>> definitely is worth asking for if it solves something for you.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm thinking passing a [[tiddler link]] as a parameter isn't 
>>> something easy to do because I can't remember seeing anything like that 
>>> anywhere ?  I could be overthinking it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 5:05:20 PM UTC-3 si wrote:
>>>
 >>> I can't see that happening.  The entire bar is meant to be clicked 
 on to toggle opening/closing the details widget.  Having nested "clicky" 
 areas would be a bad idea, I think

 I don't really see the problem? It works fine with the HTML tag. Go to 
 tiddlywiki.com and try this:

 
 [[TiddlerLinks]]
 Blah
 

 Clicking anywhere other than the link opens the text. This is what I 
 have been using, but with the vanilla HTML element there is no way to 
 record the state, hence my interest in the details widget.

 On Monday, 17 May 2021 at 20:40:17 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> I can't see that happening.  The entire bar is meant to be clicked on 
> to toggle opening/closing the details widget.  Having nested "clicky" 
> areas 
> would be a bad idea, I think.
>
> It isn't about the widget being unable to do that.  It is about the 
> HTML foundation of the widget.  A somewhat related good read:  
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_details.asp
>
> I kind of do what you are asking for in a different way.  See "How 
> Charlie Uses DetailsWidget with Transclusions 
> ."
>   
> There may be some stuff in there you can reuse for your purposes?
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 1:58:52 PM UTC-3 si wrote:
>
>> Hi Thomas, thank you for making this plugin.
>>
>> I've just been playing with it (this version 
>> ),
>>  
>> and I noticed that the widget won't display links in the summary 
>> section. 
>> E.g. <$details summary="[[Tiddler title]]"> will just display the 
>> brackets as plain text, rather than giving you a clickable link. I don't 
>> know if you are still updating this plugin, but I wondered if there is 
>> any 
>> way to get links to show in the summary section?
>> On Sunday, 22 January 2017 at 16:45:18 UTC thomas@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all – here comes my first attempt to build a widget: 
>>>
>>> The details widget creates an HTML 5  section including a 
>>> . Users can click on the summary to open and close a block 
>>> containing more details. The parameter *open* defines the initial 
>>> state at load time.
>>>
>>> See documentation here: http://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html#DetailsWidget
>>>
>>> I just finished a first version and the documentation and I am very 
>>> happy with it. BUT: I am not a javascript expert! So *do yourself a 
>>> favour and save a backup* of your wiki first. 
>>>
>>> Let me know if it works for you!
>>>
>>> All the best, 
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Using <> inside SVG icon definition

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi, 

Not sure if this helps, but in some situations there is a better solution 
to give an icon the same colour as the surrounding text – which might be 
the case if you use the TW foreground colour. In your SVG you can use 

fill="currentColor"

Simple as that. 

Another good way could be to give your SVG or a path in it a class. I do 
that for the secondary colour I use in my SVG icons: 

class="icon-accent"

Of course you will have to define colours in your stylesheet then: 

.icon-accent { 
   fill: <>;
   stroke: <>;
}

Examples can be found here: https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html 

Good luck!
Thomas

fred@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 13. Mai 2021 um 13:07:51 UTC+2:

> Hi Mohammad, not quite what I am after. I'll try to express myself better 
> below.
>
> The code I have in my original post works (just as well as the changes you 
> proposed), but it uses a fixed value represented by the "#c8ced8" string => 
> I'd like to change this hard coded value to <>.
>
> Trying to substitute it using:
>
> <$vars icon_color="<>">
> <$macrocall $name="drawIcon"  foreground="<>" />
> 
>
> nor 
>
> <$vars icon_color="<>">
> <$macrocall $name="drawIcon"  foreground=<> />
> 
>
> nor  
>
>
> <$vars icon_color=<>>
> <$macrocall $name="drawIcon"  foreground="<>" />
> 
>
> nor the simpler:
>
> <$macrocall $name="drawIcon"  foreground="<>" />
>
> nor: 
> <$macrocall $name="drawIcon"  foreground=<> />
>
> does not seem to work. The <> macro by itself works well 
> (outside of the SVG), but I am missing something to tie it all together. I 
> tried a few things with single quotes and triple quotes to no avail. I 
> tried the SVG tag directly in the tiddler text (not in a \define pragma), 
> and tried to use \define mycolor() <> instead and 
> tried changing the tidder type; still, I am short of finding something that 
> works well. 
> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 23:53:27 UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Use this example in tiddlywiki.com
>>
>> See the answer below, remove extra quotation marks!
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 7:05 AM Frédéric Demers  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone, 
>>>
>>> probably an easy answer, but have been banging my head against this one 
>>> for a while...
>>>
>>> I imported an SVG icon (
>>> https://morosanuae.github.io/tw-icons/#$:/images/icon-park/edit/list-checkbox-outline)
>>>  
>>> and am trying to simply change the stroke/fill colour to the generic 
>>> <> so it is most flexible when changing palette...
>>>
>>> Here's what I have so far, only one value to change really, and haven't 
>>> managed to make it work; whenever I replace the string with the macro, the 
>>> icon vanishes; tried a second define and tried using an external $(var)$ 
>>> inside the macro definition instead, and tried all types of quotes in three 
>>> different places (main svg, around the variable and the macrocall 
>>> parameter); alas no joy...
>>>
>>> \define drawIcon(foreground)
>>> >> fill-opacity="0.01"/>>> stroke-width="4" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"/>>> fill-rule="evenodd" clip-rule="evenodd" d="M20 38H44H20Z" 
>>> fill="none"/>>> stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"/>>> clip-rule="evenodd" d="M20 10H44H20Z" fill="none"/>>> stroke=$foreground$ stroke-width="4" stroke-linecap="round" 
>>> stroke-linejoin="round"/>>> fill="none" stroke=$foreground$ stroke-width="4" 
>>> stroke-linejoin="round"/>>> fill="none" stroke=$foreground$ stroke-width="4" 
>>> stroke-linejoin="round"/>>> stroke=$foreground$ stroke-width="4" stroke-linejoin="round"/>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> <$vars icon_color="#c8ced8">
>>> <$macrocall $name="drawIcon"  foreground="<>" />
>>>
>>
>> <$macrocall $name="drawIcon"  foreground=<> />
>>
>>  
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> *thanks in advance!!!*
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Updated] Color Play: a playground for colors and palettes in Tiddlywiki

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mohammad,

Thanks for the initiative and the demo. Looks like it will need some 
additional steps to approach the goal of maximal simplicity and user 
friendliness even for beginners – but I would say it’s absolutely worth it!

Motivated by the first example I saw from you I experimented a bit with the 
tools I made some time ago. This is what I could come up with until now and 
what I still consider as much too complicated: 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/palette.html

Important facts, concepts and questions:

   - this is *experimental* – don’t use it for anything important
   - based on the *primary* colour there are calculated a lot of other 
   colours automagically, all tagged and namespaced
  - neighbouring colours
  - triadic and quadratic contrasting colours
  - like shades and tints in your demo these are meant as an 
  inspiration for tuning, only a few of them should be used
  - some colours are *static* as they are hard to calculate in a 
   meaningful way: colours for buttons, warnings and a rather neutral scale
   - Is it wise to *mix* colours for the scale (opacity = 1) and use *alpha* 
   transparency for the shades? 
   - To transfer the result to another wiki it is relatively safe to copy *the 
   palette* AND all tiddlers tagged *$:/tags/Colours* (drag the tag pill) 
   at the moment.
   - My palette *generator* (compiles all variables to fixed values) leads 
  to problems with transparency in tag colours. rgba definitions seem not 
to 
  work in this form, while they work in transclustions (?!) – I wonder if 
the contrastcolour 
  macro causes 
  this. 
  - *Readability* can be checked for many TW use cases – but not yet 
   for the tiddler editor buttons for example. (They lack dedicated colours in 
   the CSS.)
   - The *Colour Scheme Manager* is not consistent in the way it is 
   changing colours: backgrounds are changed directly in the palette indexes, 
   while the others change in my new colour tiddlers.

Thanks again and all the best,
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mohammad (and all others),

My hoster moved tid.li to a new server today and the SSL certificates seem 
still to be in the renewal process. So please try again later (or try the 
button "accept the risk" in your browser if you dare).

All the best,
Thomas

Mohammad schrieb am Mittwoch, 17. März 2021 um 09:05:14 UTC+1:

> Hi Thomas,
>  I cannot open the 
> https://tid.li/tw5/apps/bricks.html#%24%3A%2Fapps%2Ftelmiger%2Fbricks%2Fpaletteeditor
>  It seems there is a problem with the site!
>  Would you please have a look?
>
>
> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:27:50 PM UTC+3:30 thomas@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Ideally, the user would select a handful of cornerstone colours and there 
>>> would be sensible defaults 
>>>
>>
>> That was my intention too, but I did never find the time to finish the 
>> idea. Something like this:
>>
>>
>> https://tid.li/tw5/apps/bricks.html#%24%3A%2Fapps%2Ftelmiger%2Fbricks%2Fpaletteeditor
>>
>> Note 1: All colours are present as a sample here, something the standard 
>> palette editor does not offer. (Colours defined as rgba(0,0,255,0.25) or 
>> <> seem to be black there.)
>>
>> Note 2: The testing section at the bottom where you should be able to see 
>> the consequences for important elements.
>>
>> Have a nice weekend, you all!
>> Thomas
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Some more thoughts on linking in TW (aliases, display text, and relationship types: Oh My!)

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi,

I must admit, i am not able to see the advantage of storing information 
about a person or object in a link instead of in a field. In fields you can 
store 

name: Joe
familiy: Doe
father: Alfred Doe
mother: Beatrix Doe
spouse: Foo Bar
course-about-hacking: attended

The last one might be solved differently by storing a list of attendants in 
a tiddler "course about hacking" of course. Now you could write macros to 
style links based on that information. And you would have all the 
information in the one place where it makes sense istead of scattered over 
many tiddlers and many links. – But let’s assume it makes sense in some 
contexts. 

Question: how would HTML handle the additional relation information?  Could 
it be presented to users in a useful and accessible way?

And a short reminder: HTML anchors  (a) already can have *type* and *rel* 
attributes – both are not supported by the link widget at the moment, but 
there are indeed some kinds of relations already covered to be aware of. 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/a

 One last provocation: How about [[ Joe (stepson) | Joe Doe ]] ?

Goodnight ;–)
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

[Thomas Elmiger]

> Is there any list to recognize the important elements?
>

Well, here are *some* elements I did consider important: 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/bricks.html#%24%3A%2Fapps%2Ftelmiger%2Fbricks%2Freadability
But it depends both on the design and the usage. 
Example for theme complexity: I found it really hard to style a theme with 
bright colours (dark font on light background) in the story river and dark 
mode (bright fonts on dark background) in the sidebar.
Examples for usage importance: The saving confirmation popping up in the 
top right corner is important for folks like me using the single page 
version and a browser plugin. It might be less important for people working 
on Node.js. 

By the way, you can see that my solution is not working for all colour 
definitions. In CSS and in TiddlyWiki you can define a colour value as 
"inherit" – but it is impossible to test that with my macros. 

Hovering over the test lines with the mouse will show you the macro input 
(near the border) and the output colours tested. 

All the best,
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

[Thomas Elmiger]

>
> Ideally, the user would select a handful of cornerstone colours and there 
> would be sensible defaults 
>

That was my intention too, but I did never find the time to finish the 
idea. Something like this:

https://tid.li/tw5/apps/bricks.html#%24%3A%2Fapps%2Ftelmiger%2Fbricks%2Fpaletteeditor

Note 1: All colours are present as a sample here, something the standard 
palette editor does not offer. (Colours defined as rgba(0,0,255,0.25) or 
<> seem to be black there.)

Note 2: The testing section at the bottom where you should be able to see 
the consequences for important elements.

Have a nice weekend, you all!
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

[Thomas Elmiger]

> To do that, we’d probably need some colour mixing macros, so that one 
> could set a palette entry to, say, the primary colour at 50% brightness.
>
> Here’s a plugin that offers a lot of functions for exactly this kind of 
colour variants: 
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FColorAction

Maybe a good starting point for something baked into the core? 

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Query: German Alternative Naming Of TW Might Be Germane

[Thomas Elmiger]

TT, as a translator I would have to ask: Are you sure? Does that make sense 
in English? – Let me suggest adaptations instead of translations.

-- "a-program-that-changes-itself" (in German, one word?)
ein selbst-anpassbares Programm (a program you can adapt yourself – as a 
program it should not do anything that was not programmed into it)

-- "a-self-filtering-webpage" (in German, one word?)
eine Webseite mit Inhalts-Filterfunktionen (it is content you might want to 
filter instead of the page)

-- "a-20-year-wiki" (in German, one word?)
ein Wiki mit Langzeit-Funktionsgarantie (20 years is a long time after all)

See what I mean? 

Cheers,
Thomas

TiddlyTweeter schrieb am Samstag, 14. November 2020 um 14:07:24 UTC+1:

> Though I can't speak German I recognize its *superb ability to recombine 
> words into new concepts*.
>
> Describing TiddlyWiki is not easy. Germans are common here and could 
> likely provide neat one-word-concepts of ...
>
> -- "a-program-that-changes-itself" (in German, one word?)
>
> -- "a-self-filtering-webpage" (in German, one word?)
>
> -- "a-20-year-wiki" (in German, one word?)
>
>
>and others ...
>
> IMO it would be useful.
>
> I use a lot the French word "Bricolage" (DIY activity plus serendipity) to 
> describe use of TW in practice.
> It is pretty accurate.
> But German linguistic precision would be interesting to see too.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: Simple Search

[Thomas Elmiger]

Bob,

What happens if you remove your preferences? (In other words, use the
standard values instead of your preferences.)

If the standards do not work for you, you might want to post your settings
and what you expect to achieve here. Then someone with more filtering
experience than me could be able to help.

All the best,
Thomas


Bob Jansen  schrieb am Mo., 21. Sept. 2020, 07:35:

> Thomas,
>
> have installed your plugin into my wiki. Search shows found items provided
> I search for an entry in the title. If I search in any of my fields, it
> shows how many items found but no item titles.
>
> I have added my fields in the preferences tiddler.
>
> bobj
>
> On Thursday, 17 September 2020 at 21:06:21 UTC+10 thomas@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi is there a way to make the `down` to select the first item, instead of
>>> 3 times tab?
>>>
>>
>> Hi. Not one that I would know of or be able to implement. I just use
>> "natural" browser tabbing. This selects the elements in order of
>> appearance. As I use Advanced search results often I find it very handy to
>> jump to the search button first.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Thomas
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: Simple Search

[Thomas Elmiger]

>
> Hi is there a way to make the `down` to select the first item, instead of 
> 3 times tab?
>

Hi. Not one that I would know of or be able to implement. I just use 
"natural" browser tabbing. This selects the elements in order of 
appearance. As I use Advanced search results often I find it very handy to 
jump to the search button first. 

All the best, 
Thomas
 

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[tw5] Re: How many of you use core TiddlyWIki?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Same here. At first I used the core version only. Then I began to fix some 
things I did not like using CSS only. Writing my own extensions – first 
macros, later plugins and themes – made me feel safe, knowing exactly what 
was going on. Every time I had to overwrite core stuff, I did it with bad 
conscience, out of fear that I might get problems with the next versions.
Recently I learned that even a CSS-only approach is not safe. Core-updates 
might (did) change HTML structure and thus break CSS optimisations.

On the other hand: When you have built a solution that works for you, you 
don’t *have* to upgrade. A TiddlyWiki can work for decades without any 
updates.

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[tw5] Re: Concatenation and arithmetic

[Thomas Elmiger]

And here is a button that creates a new tiddler who’s title includes a 
number retreived from a tiddler.
After creating the tiddler, the number ist incremented using the rpn macro:

<$wikify name="id" text="{{$:/plugins/telmiger/AutoTid/next-ID
}}-{{$:/plugins/telmiger/AutoTid/namespace}}">
<$button tooltip="Add element" class="te-btn-big te-create">
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<> tags="AutoTid" text="" 
caption="New element" e-name="New element" 
t-index={{$:/plugins/telmiger/AutoTid/next-ID}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/plugins/telmiger/AutoTid/next-ID" $value=<> />
<$action-navigate $to=<>/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-tiddler" $param=<>/>
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}
 


You can see the button 

 
in the top right corner here: https://tid.li/tw5/test/concept.html


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[tw5] Re: Concatenation and arithmetic

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi bobj

Some time ago, before TiddlyWiki had math filters, I made a plugin for 
simple minds like me ;–)
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Frpn

Amongst other simple tasks it comes with a handy macro:

   - the macro takes two operands (*a* and *b*) as input – this may be 
   macros or transclusions
   - standard operations: +, -, /, * 
  - advanced operations: modulus (%) and rounding (optional: Math.floor 
  or Math.ceil)
   - output formatting
   - string concatenation (&)
   - random numbers in a range from a to b with *precision:"r"* (including 
   both a and b)

Cheers, 
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: Simple Search

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi again, I had to search for that myself ... this should do the trick:

In $:/plugins/telmiger/simple-search/SearchResultsOther replace

sort[title] => !sort[modified]

In $:/plugins/telmiger/simple-search/SearchResultsTop replace

sort[caption] => !sort[modified]

The exclamation mark reverses the chronological order.

Have a nice weekend everyone :)
Thomas

imleg...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 27. August 2020 um 02:53:18 UTC+2:

> Hi, how to show the search result in reverse chronological order? I want 
> the most recently changed tiddler at first. Havent found related settings.
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: Simple Search

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi imleg... 
I copied Apple Spotlight search: You can use the same shortcut to open and 
to close the search layer.
imleg...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 27. August 2020 um 03:46:36 UTC+2:

> How to dismiss the search bar by keyboard shortcut ? For now, I need to 
> click a blank area to dismiss it. I want to use keyboard shortcuts to do it
>
>
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 11:06:39 PM UTC+8, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> The new *Simple Search* plugin provides a *nice and simple user 
>> interface* for searching your wikis using the *TW standard search.* It 
>> is designed for mobile and desktop screens.
>>
>> The plugin hides the search input field in the sidebar and displays a new 
>> button in the page toolbar instead. 
>>
>>
>> At the click/tap of the button, a layer appears and the focus is set to 
>> the search field. Clicking/tapping a search result or anywhere outside the 
>> search box makes the layer disappear. 
>>
>>
>> [image: simple-search-mobile.png]
>>
>>
>> You can try it here: 
>>
>>- https://tid.li/tw5/test/search-5-1-18pre.html – development wiki, 
>>no plugin
>>- https://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html – alternative design, search icon in 
>>top right toolbar (close sidebar: still there)
>>
>> And of course also on https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html from where you can 
>> install the plugin via drag and drop.
>>
>> The readme tab of the plugin contains *options/settings* for
>>
>>- animation duration – make sure to use a significantly lower value 
>>(e.g. 150) than the original TW setting (400)
>>- border colour – make the search box stand out in any design, light 
>>or dark
>>- where to show the button – page toolbar in the sidebar or top right 
>>bar (you might want to modify other design aspects if you use the latter)
>>- edit mode – if you want to change the search tiddler, you can 
>>activate the edit icon
>>
>> Last but not least there is a new way to measure the popularity of my 
>> plugins: Inspired by others who did the same, for the first time I 
>> published the coordinates for financially rewarding my laborious works :)
>> Of course the plugin is *free and open source* as always (MIT license 
>> included). No need to pay for anything! But if you absolutely want, you can.
>>
>> As valuable as payments: Promotion (tell your friends) and feedback in 
>> any form! Here in the forum or via direct message (click answer here, 
>> choose *private* option/tell your friends via twitter or e-mail). Thank 
>> you!
>>
>> Now, please make a backup, install, reload and have fun searching.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thomas
>>
>

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[tw5] Tinka 0.5.0 - A Plugin to make more Plugins

[Thomas Elmiger]

+1 what JD says.
Thanks a lot to you, Andreas and Mat. 
Looking forward to try this. 

All the best, 
Thomas 

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[tw5] Re: Time Tracking in TiddlyWiki?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thank you for the mention, TT, but my Reminders for ToDoNow are triggered by 
(not so obvious) user interaction.

Cool stuff here! 

Cheers, 
Thomas 

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[tw5] Re: Improvements to "GettingStarted"

[Thomas Elmiger]

Ah I see your point, Riz.

There is a new version now, where the author (and the second link) is 
beneath the card to maintain your concept of the whole card is one link.

Another reason why I would prefer this over the existing design is that I 
think the author name does not provide much information to new users and is 
a bit too prominent in the second line of text before the explanation. (Why 
is it aligned on the right?)

All the best,
Thomas

Am Sonntag, 14. Juni 2020 21:32:44 UTC+2 schrieb Riz:
>
>> The entire card is a link. So a link within a link would not a great UI 
>> choice. 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Improvements to "GettingStarted"

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Riz

This is why I unliked the author part so that there can be a second 
(different) link that takes users directly to the solution website offered 
by the author.

(I just made an update to also cover the case where there is an author but 
not a URL.)

Am Sonntag, 14. Juni 2020 21:32:44 UTC+2 schrieb Riz:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> The entire card is a link. So a link within a link would not a great UI 
> choice. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Improvements to "GettingStarted"

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Riz and Jeremy,

First: Thank you both for improving this important entry point! I think it 
is a big step forward.

Riz:

> I have only made visual changes, nothing else. If choosing a set of 
> options does not show a saver, it is because it needs more tags. 
>

The changes are good, people finding more room for improvements (in 
related, untouched tiddlers) shows that you give us a new perspective. 

I wanted to propose a change to the card design but did not find out how to 
make a proper pull request from the github web interface:
https://github.com/telmiger/TiddlyWiki5/blob/tiddlywiki-com/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/system/tw5.com-card-template.tid

(There are always unrelated files and very old commits from my master 
branch involved that would only be irritating. I don’t know how to get rid 
of them.)

My main idea is to link the author name with the solution URL. I would like 
to keep the link to the description tiddler and offer a shortcut to the 
solution also. In order to clearly separate the two links, I put the author 
information at the end of the card.

Feel free to copy that manually if you like it.

Cheers,
Thomas


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[tw5] Re: Improvements to "GettingStarted"

[Thomas Elmiger]

+1

PMario:
>
> IMO the selection titles should have the same colour coding than the 
> "cards" on the right side, if that's possible.
>
> If not, there should be a legend, that describes the color codes.
>

Maybe both? I too missed an explanation for the colours. 

Also the tags of the browser extensions should be revised. When I select my 
OS (Mac) and my browser (Firefox) I cannot find my preferred *file-backups* 
browser extension.

What information does the checkmark icon add to the download empty button? 
Maybe clean that button up too – neither Firefox 
 nor Chrome 
 download pages have an icon on the 
download button. 

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Re: [tw5] Re: New SoundCite plugin created

[Thomas Elmiger]

You are welcome.

Forgot to mention before: In Josiahʼs case the state management could lead
to correct buttons for ALL appearances of a song, when it is present in
more than one open tiddler. Press play in the strex tiddler, close it and
stop the song in the Leonard Cohen tiddler.

Cheers,
Thomas


Hi Thomas,
>
> thank you for the helpful ideas!
>

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[tw5] Re: New SoundCite plugin created

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi folks,

First: I like this neat little audio player, this is a really cool idea, 
Florian, thanks for making it!

Second: After testing shortly with Josiah’s example (I like the Leonard 
Cohen songs) I came to the conclusion that it would be the job of SoundCite 
to use something like the TW state mechanism 
 in order to retain or restore the 
state of a song during the TW (re)rendering process. The strex macro does 
it in that way, this is why you can open a strex element, close the 
tiddler, search for the tiddler and reopen it – and taddaaah! – strex 
elements have the same state as before.

As the tabs as well as standard tiddlers demonstrate, it is a TW thing and 
not the problem of neither the tabs or the strex macro. To test the 
standard tiddler case you can go to Leonard Cohen 
 and play a tune there. 
Close the tiddler, then search for "Leonard" and reopen the tiddler. TW 
will render all the contents again. So now the soundcite macro should check 
for the associated sound file, if it is already playing and adjust the 
play-button accordingly. But it doesn’t and shows the initial state with 
the play button.

How would this work? When I hit play, a new tiddler should be created: 
title: 
$:/state/soundcite/https://ia801205.us.archive.org/16/items/LeonardCohen-YouWantItDarker2016/01YouWantItDarker.mp3
text: playing

Based on this state tiddler, the macro could know about the button to 
display on rerendering.

Honestly I have no clue about other states that would be nice to have: 
paused at [time], ended, ... maybe in a field you could save a counter for 
how many times a song has been played. Would all that be possible via JS?

Third: A hint about CamelCase linking. I think it would be possible to 
switch that off for your script tiddlers only by applying Pragma rules 
, but I never found out where you would be 
able to look them up. Maybe others can help here. 

All the best,
Thomas (the one who built strex)


Am Samstag, 13. Juni 2020 18:13:34 UTC+2 schrieb TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Florian Kohrt wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I mention in the "developing" tab that there are issues when TW 
>> does not retain loaded SoundCite elements. This applies to the <> 
>> macro -- where it can be fixed using the "retain" parameter -- and it 
>> apparently also applies to the <> macro. While it might be 
>> possible to fix this in the SoundCite plugin, it may be more useful to 
>> create a fix for the Strex plugin, so all plugins that use it can 
>> benefit. 
>
>
> Ciao Florian
>
> This is beyond my competence, but an interesting issue on "retain" as it 
> sounds like its doable in TW?
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Saq, 

Finally I found the time to try this promising tool, thanks for making this!

Suggestions: 

   - Roadmap: Do you intend to move keyboard shortcuts to the existing tab 
   "Keyboard Shortcuts" in the Control Panel? That’s where I would like to 
   find them and where multiple shortcuts per command are configurable.
   - HTML structure: As the result looks like a list, I would have expected 
   a nested  structure – that would have the advantage that you can 
   copy paste to e.g. Word and keep the structure.

Just a first impression, I might try again later.

Cheers and good night,
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: Simple Search

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Reet,
I copied Apple Spotlight search: You can use the same shortcut to open and
to close the search layer.

Currently there seems to be no way to close the search box without the
> mouse.
>

Hope that works for you.

Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: Simple Search

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi,

I have never used TW on Node.js, but a nice person named Mirko made a repo
for my plugins.
You can find it here: https://github.com/rimi/tw5-telmiger-plugins

Please note that updates might take some time, I just pinged Mirko today
about the new versions.

All the best,
Thomas


Am Mi., 3. Juni 2020 um 19:01 Uhr schrieb Lin Onetwo :

> Hi Elmiger,
>
> I really like this search bar, thank you for making this and share with us!
>
> I'm using NodeJS setup and want to place your plugin into the plugin
> folder, so I want to download the folder version of plugin
> could I know where the gitlab or github repo for this plugin is?
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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mark

Please feel free to use the most simplicistic plus and minus icons from 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html#Advanced%20Icon%20Editing (section "other 
images ...").
No attribution required. 

Cheers,
Thomas

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:39:08 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> I could just use + and - .
>
>

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[tw5] Re: EditButtons plugin (and others) updated for TW 5.1.22

[Thomas Elmiger]

Haha, thank you, springer, for bringing up another great use case!
And thanks to Mat and h0p3 too for using and recommending EditButtons.

On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 11:22:13 PM UTC+2, springer wrote:
>
> Though Thomas' use case (suddenly realizing one had a bad edit idea) is 
> funnier, the "discard changes and close tiddler" button also gets lots of 
> use, for me, when my only purpose in opening up a tiddler is to grab some 
> bit of code from within. Recommended!
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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hello TWilosophers,

Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> This seems to be like a question TT might ask, "What is a document?" 
>>
>
> LOL. Quickly picking up on that point ... whilst the iron is hot.
>

Me too :–D  After TT mentioned one of my older plugins "listreveal" I think 
I’ll have to clarify. Listreveal is a tool to efficiently reveal (as the 
name says) and edit (should I rename it?) tiddlers that can be listed (as 
in *filtered*). I would call this a collection of tiddlers but NOT a 
document per se. Of course I used it to create documents myself e.g. work 
reports or todo lists – documents about stuff that can be listed.

The similarity of NotoWritey and listreveal is that they live inside a 
tiddler. In my concept for documents on the other hand, I tried to optimize 
the reading experience by displaying the content of many tiddlers without 
displaying ANY (visible) tiddlers. And I found a TW concept simpler than 
displaying the content of many tiddlers inside another tiddler ...

Ultimately I came to the conclusion, that a *story* should be a document. 
So based on work from Jan I made a concept more than a year ago:
https://tid.li/tw5/test/concept.html – this has just been updated to TW 
5.1.22 now, but has been work without progress for a long time, might have 
bugs and surely has an awful lack of documentation.

Jan had developed a tool to mange stories (in the meantime others might 
have done that too), which I adapted to my needs. The result is called 
StoryAdmin and maybe you could get a glimpse of my mental concept if you 
would read the readme at 
https://tid.li/tw5/test/concept.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2FJR-telmiger%2FStoryAdmin

I use tags to create a table of contents, but I use stories to save 
documents. This way, tiddlers in a wiki can be compiled (re-used) in many 
different documents. In my book example you can load the whole story (then 
the document is the book) or you can load one chapter (then the document is 
like a few pages copied from a book).

I hope you find this interesting.

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] Plugins with Keyboard Shortcuts still require a reload in TW 5.1.22

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hello TW friends

I have just updated my Simple Search plugin, you can test it from 
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html – it comes with a new keyboard shortcut 
(shift–cmd–space) as the old one (shift-space) interfered with my typing 
much too often.

One of the major improvements of TW 5.1.22 is described as follow on 
tiddlywiki.com: 

*Plugins can now  be 
> loaded or deleted dynamically, without requiring a reload – as long as they 
> don't contain any JavaScript modules. *
>

I would suggest to add "*... or keyboard shortcuts.*" to that description. 
When I import my plugin in any wiki including empty.html there are only two 
ways to bring the keyboard shortcut to life: 
– reload the page
– defining an additional keyboard shortcut

In other words: It seems that freshly imported keyboard shortcuts in 
plugins are not available until next reload at the moment.

Any voluntary testers here?

Good night!
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[Thomas Elmiger]

OGNSYA, as you are a designer, you might be interested in the discussion 
sregarding TW UI here 
 too.

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] EditButtons plugin (and others) updated for TW 5.1.22

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi folks,

Many, many thanks to Mat for pushing me a bit to a) fix one of my plugins 
for TW 5.1.22 and b) to officially launch it to the public through this 
group. 

The *EditButtons* plugin makes editing more efficient by adding three 
buttons to the edit toolbar:

   - Cancel & Close (Discard & Close)
   - Save & Close (Done & Close)
   - Save & Keep Open (Done & Reopen)
   
Originally inspired by Josiah and Richard William Smith. (See Discussion in 
the Google Group 
.) – 
Now flourishing with improved design (4 variants to choose from, so there 
should be something for every taste and most existing designs or at least a 
starter CSS you can improve yourself) and a new settings tab to configure 
your edit toolbar. Even more thanks to Mat for the inspiration and the 
testing – it was a real joy to work with you!

This little gem is still under 25 kilobytes and has no dependencies. You 
can get it on my all new Plugins website: 
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html. 

*Why should you use EditButtons?*
The button I use all the time myself is *Save & Keep Open*. Especially 
useful while working in a single page wiki to make sure your works are 
saved while you are not finished yet. Also for testing new developments 
like CSS or macros while you have finished parts only or want to be sure 
everything is fine, before you *Save & Close*. The last one is for bad 
ideas: When you think you should add something to a tiddler and then 
realize you better leave it as it is and throw the bad idea away or note it 
in another tiddler. Then you can *Cancel & Close*. If you never have such 
bad ideas you can remove the button from the edit toolbar.

*Where are the other Plugins?*
My other plugins – older/not yet updated – are still available: Visit 
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins-2019.html to check them out. Most of them will 
be updated and moved over to the location above when I find the time. 
Suggestions for improvements are always welcome but might take some time to 
consider and/or implement. 

Thanks for reading & all the best,
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Re: Redesign of TiddlyWiki

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi folks

Here’s my collection of TW icons (and a few more in a similar style), where
I suggest to add an optional secondary colour to at least some icons to
highlight what they stand for:
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html#Advanced%20Icon%20Editing

Feel free to take from here!

All the best,
Thomas

Edgaras wrote:
>>
>> Regarding icons https://remixicon.com is the best open source pack I've
>> found. 2149 very nice neutral icons. I am not big. I like that balance
>> between softness and sharpness. By the way is there somewhere the
>> TiddlyWiki icon pack?
>>
>
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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[Thomas Elmiger]

Saq, just one question

- you can hold down Ctrl when dragging to another tiddler to copy it rather 
than move it.

Why did you opt for Ctrl to copy? I am used to Software from Microsoft and 
Adobe where Alt/Option is used to duplicate/copy elements ...

Looking forward to your release!
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[tw5] Re: Stroll and NoteSelf together?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hereʼs a pure online variant, no downloads required:
https://nota-bene.glitch.me/

Disadvantage: Your app goes to sleep when not in use. Or you have to pay for 
keeping it awake. 

All the best, 
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[tw5] Re: Personal News

[Thomas Elmiger]

Best wishes for a quick recovery! Take your time.
- Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thanks a lot, Mister Gloom, the new animation inspired by you is finally 
here:
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html#Animations%203

A small preview was added to the examples too. 

Am Sonntag, 19. April 2020 10:51:42 UTC+2 schrieb A Gloom:
>
> Another svg animation for your library-- see attached tiddler -- sorry, 
> you'll have to clean up the code to match the code style for your editor.
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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Thomas Elmiger]

This sounds very promising, thanks a lot. I am looking forward to try it 
when I find the time.

Am Samstag, 2. Mai 2020 22:36:01 UTC+2 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> To try it out, visit the prerelease and review the docs:
>

Do we need the prerelease or only the plugin and TW 5.1.22 ?

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Stroll: last call for experimenting

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi David, 
thanks a lot for your effort for making this accessible for starters, great 
stuff!

I only strolled halfways through your tutorial and have a few remarks: 

A) Why did you duplicate existing buttons with different (also existing, 
but coloured) icons?

[image: Bildschirmfoto 2020-05-03 um 12.19.33.png]

Screenshot from the Tools sidebar.


Apart from the stopwatch icon (that I contributed for the timestamp 
functionality of TW), there is no clue why a user should use one or the 
other.


Let the community know if you lack icons, maybe there are people willing to 
help.


B) Folded tiddlers still show the links section, is this by design? Using 
Highlights in Context that still needs a lot of space.


C) Wording on the eye tab: The word *references* is alredy in the title, so 
I think you could omit "Refs" and "Refs as" and optimise readability by NOT 
using all caps.


D) Two Columns intro, step 4: As a non native English reader I find it hard 
to understand sentences like "Click the [ | ] icon in the sidebar page 
controls multiple times to toggle between one and two columns." Maybe this 
could be shorter? "Click the [ | ] icon in the sidebar to toggle between 
one and two columns." (Doesn’t the word "toggle" imply you can switch and 
switch back using the same button?)


I will have a break now. All the best,

Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Updated: Bricks CSS Studio for TW 5.1.22

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thank you, TT!

3 - It is not particularly important it is inspired by the Tachyons 
> framework. That is a conceptual aid only.
>
>
It is important to mention, because it adds an additional layer of 
complexity until you understand, what the many variables do.

On the other hand it reduces complexity: If you always use the same 
variables adhering to a design system, you can be pretty sure that you use 
consistent spacing, sizes etc. And if you want to change e.g. font sizes 
you will have do do that in one single place/tiddler only, where the 
variables are defined.

Happy styling,
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Re: [New Plugin] Plugin Size: Compare the Weight of Plugins

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Birthe, thanks a lot for supporting my plugins!

Hi Petruschka, good to read my stuff is in use :)

Have a nice Sunday,
Thomas

Am Sa., 2. Mai 2020 um 11:22 Uhr schrieb Petruschka :

> Starred. TY
>
> Am Samstag, 2. Mai 2020 11:16:34 UTC+2 schrieb Birthe C:
>>
>> From your screenshot.  undefined edit counter. I remembered that was one
>> of the dependencies.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>> lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 11.11.01 UTC+2 skrev Petruschka:
>>>
>>> Hello Birthe C
>>>
>>> PS Was it just a guess or how did you find out (for myself to learn it
>>> the next time I struggle) so fast it was a depency problem?
>>>
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[tw5] Re: How to display an alert at a predetermined time?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Hubert,

Thanks for your kind words and sorry for the delayed response.

I'm not interested in timers or anything processing-heavy. Your solution 
> that triggers the alert when the user is interacting with TW is perfectly 
> suitable for me (I assume that the alert is triggered when the refresh 
> mechanism fires, which again is triggered by user interaction).
>
Good to see you have the same preferences as me.

I've had a look at the tiddler $:/plugins/telmiger/reminders/messages which 
> is where, I believe, most of the logic happens. You've built it 
> beautifully, but unfortunately it's not immediately obvious to me what 
> "holds off" the alert from being displayed until, say, the double down 
> arrow on the task in the Do section is pressed.
>
I had to take a look again myself ... this is where the messages are 
generated according to user settings: either a reminder (don’ forget to 
...) or an alert (did you really forget to ...?!) with slightly different 
styling to convey more or less urgency.
 

> As you've noted, an alert can be triggered just by interacting with the TW 
> (as long as the deadline is passed), which must imply that the alert is not 
> triggered by an action in the button but that some re-evaluation of 
> conditions must happen on a refresh cycle.
>
*This is my magic trick: *$:/plugins/telmiger/reminders/display is tagged 
$:/tags/TopRightBar 
and thus injected and always present in the top right bar. You are not able 
to see it, as it is hidden via CSS, but it is re-evaluated as you say with 
every refresh cycle. No need to set a tag here :)

After evaluating if alerting is active and setting the necessary variables, 
it creates a list for all tiddlers that have a deadline-field. The list 
item  will be empty as long as no message should be shown. When a 
deadline is near or a task is overdue, the result of the reminderCheck 
macro will be a reminder or an alert. The message will be visible until 
either the duedate is changed OR the task gets the tag ToDoNow:



<$list filter="""[hastag!tag[ToDoNow]!sort]""" 
variable="tiddler">
<$macrocall $name="reminderCheck" 
reminder-field=<> tiddler=<> reminderspan=<>/>



The sorting should make sure the list is sorted according to urgency so a 
user can push the first task into the ToDoNow section and postpone the rest.

So far I see that it's impossible to both have a tiddler tagged 
> $:/tags/Alert and not see it displayed as an alert immediately upon 
> creation, because once so tagged, such a tiddler *becomes* an alert and 
> so it *must *fire.
>
Tagging requires pushing a button as far as I am aware, so i did not use 
that.

I have automated alerts that show on startup (if conditions are met) but 
> this uses actions such as <$action-createtiddler/> (creating alerts on the 
> fly) embedded in $reveal widgets that narrow down the conditions for 
> displaying such alerts. But I can't fire such actions by merely interacting 
> with the TW itself, so I can't create alerts on demand in this way without 
> running <$action-createtiddler/> somewhere.
>
Ïf this was a question, I hope it is answered now ;–)

All the best,
Thomas

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[tw5] [doc] now in wiki format: The BIG picture

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mat,
great initiative, thank you! 

I wish I would have grasped the structure of template lists when I started to 
tweak my wiki. 

One point to improve: there is no subtitle field that could be styled via 
subtitle template, it displays the content of the modifier and modified (date) 
fields:


<$link to={{!!modifier}} />
<$view field="modified" format="date" 
template={{$:/language/Tiddler/DateFormat}}/>


All the best, 
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[tw5] Re: Updated: Bricks CSS Studio for TW 5.1.22

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi folks,

After a bit of housekeeping, https://tid.li/tw5/apps/bricks.html now looks 
more like the original TiddlyWiki – I hope, that makes it easier to relate 
to for starters. 
I also added a bit to the how-to documentation.

The other version which is the foundation of my Navigator theme ist still 
around and available as https://tid.li/tw5/apps/bricks-005.html

All the best,
Thomas

Good question!
>
>> Do you know of a very simple example / use case / generator output of 
>> Bricks I can see to emulate?
>>
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[tw5] Re: Open Tiddler in Edit Mode

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi David,

I'm always clicking the link to a tiddler and then having to switch it to 
> edit mode.
>
Where do you click that link? In the "Open" tab in the sidebar? 

Possible to do that in one shot?
>
The MyStory plugin offers links to directly edit or clone open tiddlers 
from the sidebar:
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FMyStory

See readme for configuration.

Happy editing,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Updated: Bricks CSS Studio for TW 5.1.22

[Thomas Elmiger]

Good question!

> Do you know of a very simple example / use case / generator output of 
> Bricks I can see to emulate?
>

My own use cases and results are the two themes I published on 
https://tid.li/tw5/themes.html (not yet updated).  

Another good starting exercise could be to save your own copy of Bricks, 
deactivate/delete unwanted plugins and try to remove/de as many stylesheets 
as possible so you can actually see what you really need for your wiki. 
Hint: You might want to try other colour palettes too.

Last suggestion: set ALL stylesheets to inactive and re-activate one by one 
to see what they do. Warning: I would not say this is a simple example of 
usage, you can spend hours and days with Bricks. 

Does that answer the question?

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] Updated: Bricks CSS Studio for TW 5.1.22

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi folks,

A first solution of mine is updated to TW 5.1.22: 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/bricks.html – an attempt to help designers as well 
as amateurs like me to re-style TiddlyWiki based on measures borrowed from 
Tachyons  (only the measures, not the classes 
though). If you are a designer and have a lot of time, take a look ;–)

Besides taking into account a few CSS additions and improvements form TW 
Vanilla CSS, not much happend. What I remember: 

* Bricks was often called a plugin but it is not a plugin. So I removed the 
misleading word from all tiddler names and call it an app now. 
* It is published under /apps now instead of /test, the old address is 
redirected. It is still an ongoing experiment.

Let me know if you find any bugs and I will try to fix them. 

All the best, 
Thomas

(My browser had a fight with the tags here, so dear admins, please adjust 
them, if they appear wrong.)

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[tw5] Re: How to display an alert at a predetermined time?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Hubert and Peter,

@Peter: I have no other solution for recurring reminders than setting the 
new date manually when you are done.

@Hubert

At the time when I developed ToDoNow I had to build my own alert sytem that 
probably comes close to what you are looking for. See 
https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html and click the double down arrow on the task in 
the Do section. 

An alert should appear to tell you that this task is late. Click the stop 
watch to change the deadline and see what happens. My sytem assumes that 
you are working on the task in the Do section, so tasks placed there will 
not bother you with alerts.

I think someone else built a *timer* later on to trigger (other) alerts 
every few seconds or minutes, but my solution does not have that. I did not 
want to waste processing time while not looking at the screen. So my alerts 
are triggered by *activity* in the wiki only. A simple click anywhere 
should be enough in most cases.

The second weakness of my solution ist that time differences are rather 
guesstimated than calculated. Rather precise for deadlines close to now but 
probably wrong for deadlines far away from now. And maybe a bit wrong 
around midnight but we shouldn’t be working then anyway.

My solution was meant to be modular and reusable, so if you can borrow 
something from there you are very welcome (see the plugins): 

* moments.js by Kixam
* datepicker plugin by Kixam

These are used to set the deadline in a field* todo-deadline*.

*Reminders for ToDoNow *is my plugin, stuff like the name of the field to 
watch is configurable.
For calculations my *rpn* plugin is necessary – this is from a time when TW 
filters were not able to calculate anything. 

That’s all for now, might be others have better solutions. 

Cheers,
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[Thomas Elmiger]

@Mat :-D JunkieWiki sounds great.

@Mohammand, thanks for asking :)
If this was my product, I would keep the good and add the better: *Drop App* 
– a starter edition for writing thinkers, based on the *Xememex Wiki Engine* 
version 5.1.22, driven by @Jermolene and the phantastic *TW Community*. 
Where TW would stand for *TiddlyWiki*, a fact that matters for old 
TWizzards and TWitches but not for our new audience.

Consumers want to use an App, something that is easy to install (what they 
have to and are used to) and easy to use. Something that primarily works. 
Keep flexibility and adapt/develop your own app for later, focus on 
simplicity and results (I am with @Josiah here). Developers would get a 
powerful engine that works wiki style like @Arlen explained above. And the 
community would stay the community we all love.

I know that I am probably mixing terms from different worlds here. But they 
have the potential to be mixed by potential users looking for the app of 
their dreams anyway. So I mix freely and happily and will get a drink now. 

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Redesign of TiddlyWiki

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Edgaras,

This is getting more and more interesting, thank you for the initiative. 
Just a few hints for inspiration from my side: 

Some time ago I developed a concept focussing on reading and writing, you 
can find a demo here:
https://tid.li/tw5/test/concept.html 

The only half-finished, never popular result is the Reader Mode plugin 
published on https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html derived from that demo. Other 
revolutionary thoughts I would be happy to see reconsidered: 

* Use titles in title fields as ID only and hide them (I used a simple 
counter to generate them)
** (I think it is not ideal, that they are present in the story, all on the 
same hierarchical level (H2) defined by a template.)
* Titles should be part of the text, it is easy to write them in wikitext: 
! H1
* If all content is in the text field, search can focus on this one field.

To *not use titles* adds a need for rethinking links and tags (I made a plugin 
x-tags  
for that part). But I think that should be solvable.

I just started to work with the block editor in wordpress and I have to say 
I like the writing experience. Hit the return key and get a new block, by 
default a paragraph, but that can be changed by hitting a shortcut or 
pressing a button to change the block type. TiddlyWiki in wikitext mode 
could be even faster: no need for block types as long as you type text. So: 
hit enter  (maybe shift+enter or another shortcut) and get a new tiddler.

You might also like to look at my Simple Search plugin: 
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Fsimple-search 
– it shows how I think standard search should work.

And finally: I like to hide the sidebar too. I hide it on the right side to 
honour TW style and try to use space as good as possible in my themes 
 combining dynamic story river width and 
(rather) fixed sidebar width).

All the best,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: [meta] TiddlyWiki and... China - !?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Well, could be worse
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y=tiddlywiki,dokuwiki,pmwiki

(I am stopping now.)

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[tw5] Re: [meta] TiddlyWiki and... China - !?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Frustrating: 
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y=tiddlywiki

And the #1 similar search term is "tiddlywiki alternative"

:-(

I hope we are dealing with an insignificant amount of data here, not 
representative at all.
- t

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[tw5] Re: [meta] TiddlyWiki and... China - !?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi folks,

Am Dienstag, 28. April 2020 16:42:29 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> But why is Switzerland #2?
>

Is Google Trends considering population size? Then it was me, sorry!
;–)

By the way, try 
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%201-m=tiddlywiki (1 
month should be closer to 2-3 weeks than the initial link) and the world 
looks different. 

Cheers,
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[Thomas Elmiger]

This is a hilarious thread with so many intelligent and witty participants 
– thank you all!
There are already too many contributions for me to stay on top of 
everything. Sorry if I overlooked something.

I would like to *spray in* a few thoughts of my own, starting with this 
snippet from Arlen:

Am Montag, 9. März 2020 21:07:52 UTC+1:
>
> AtomicWiki
> That's another idea. I think it captures the essence of TiddlyWiki. 
>
>
That’s exactly what it does: For me, the hook that persuaded me to try TW 
was the philosophy stated on the card (?) about TiddlyWiki on 
tiddlywiki.com: 

The fundamental idea  
> is that information is more useful and reusable if we cut it up into the 
> smallest semantically meaningful chunks [...]
>

So my goal would be to preserve this fundamental idea in the name. If it 
isn’t a Tiddler any longer, what could it be? I have a long list and a 
clear favourite, so I will spare you the list. 

Second best: *WaterWiki* (we can decide later if Wiki should stay part of 
the name). Water is as vital for humans as thinking is. Big Data is 
collected in data *lakes*, TW has a *river*, the story river and helps to 
stay in the *flow* of writing. Information in TW can find its way like 
magic and appear in other places like water following streams under the 
earth’s surface ... you can find more analogies, I am sure. Now what is the 
smallest entity we can find in water? Is it atomic? H and O? Molecular: 
H2O? In my personal logic, atoms are characters and molecules are words. 
(Of course, if you want to support AtomicWiki, then there are electrons and 
protons and tachyons and I don’t know what.) But back to the picture in my 
brain ... what’s next?

*DropWiki* is a perfect fit.

A drop can become everything. A sip, damp, ice. It comes with a bonus layer 
of fascination: drag and *drop*. My update process (not the official way, I 
know!): I drop my wiki on the latest version of empty.html. Add a plugin: 
drop it on your wiki. Transfer tiddlers: drag a title or a tagpill or 
export json using a filter ... and tadaaa: 
drop it on your wiki. *Tired of Evernote? Drop it.*

Do you have to let that *sink* in? No problem, I have more ideas, but they 
can wait. *Drop me a line* or *throw a bucket of* answers in my direction 
;–)
 
Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Referencing palette colors in svg code

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Steve

My first idea would be to remove the CSS you placed  in the 

Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki is live on Product Hunt

[Thomas Elmiger]

But still, I am with Mohammad here. My lesson would be, that this group and 
Twitter are not enough to get as much response as possible within a day or 
two. 

Possible solutions that I can think of: 

   - Sticky post at the top of this group: Say Hi & Subscribe to TW-Alerts
   Every single visitor of the group would be invited a) to say Hi to the 
   group and b) by doing so consent to be alerted if an important message 
   about TW comes out (new release, critical update, one or two votings a year)
   - A separate mailing list or newsletter for b)

Nonetheless: Congrats for the 2nd plase just a few votes behind #1!

Cheers,
Thomas

Am Samstag, 18. April 2020 09:22:57 UTC+2 schrieb Mohammad:
>
> Congratulation Jeremy!
>
> For me it is quite strange, I expect much more votes for lovely 
> Tiddlywiki! It deserves first place!
> Please share lesson learned from this day!
>
> --Mohammad
>
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[tw5] Re: copying a tiddler content to the clipboard

[Thomas Elmiger]

Uuups, you will probably also not need my other condition: 

[all[current]field:type[image/svg+xml]]

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[tw5] Re: copying a tiddler content to the clipboard

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Tiziano

I made a custom button for someting like that recently. It is called a 
conditionals view template. View template means, something is shown while 
viewing a tiddler. And conditional means, when some conditions are met. 

My case: I want to copy the code of image tiddlers only (not all tiddlers). 
So the condition is: If the tiddler has a tag $:/tags/Image – you see that 
in the first filter below and you might want to delete the part 
tag[$:/tags/Image]

My solution: 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html#%24%3A%2F_telmiger%2Fui%2FViewTemplate%2Fcopy-image-code

Code: 

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[$:/tags/Image]] 
[all[current]field:type[image/svg+xml]]">

<$button class="te-copy-code" message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" 
param={{!!text}} tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/CopyToClipboard/Hint}} >
{{$:/core/images/copy-clipboard}} 
Copy image code to clipboard
 

''Hint: ''Remember to delete the tags `` and `` manually 
after pasting into the editor.

@@width:100%;
---
@@




You might also want to delete the Hint and the horizontal ruler below that 
(I need it for my own design).

Don’t forget to tag your template tiddler with $:/tags/ViewTemplate

Good luck! 
Thomas


Am Freitag, 17. April 2020 22:58:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tiziano Solignani:
>
> Thank you. But that would make a copy of the tiddler while I meant to copy 
> the tiddler content to the system clipboard, to paste elsewhere later.
>
> Thank you. 
>

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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki is live on Product Hunt

[Thomas Elmiger]

Wow! 

Thanks a lot Anne-Laure for the effort, I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Cheers and all the best
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Woff2 Web fonts and Tiddlywiki 5.1.22p

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thank you, Mohammad

Looking forward to this! 

I spotted a typo in your documentation: In the how to, step 2.2. Tag it 
with $:/tags/Stylesheey
should be ... sheet with a t at the end.

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Re: [tw5] Voting for v5.1.22 banner

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thank you, Mat and Julio,

Mat, the inspiration to use the puzzle piece was based on the fact that 
plugin handling will be a major improvement in the new release. (It is the 
standard plugin symbol of TW, maybe tweaked in details.) 
After many optional new plugins like the menu bar have been added, I would 
say it is still a fit. Looking forward to the next release, even if it 
means a lot of update work is ahead for my plugins ...

Cheers,
Thomas

May I ask if you have an artists interpretation of your work? E.g if the 
> puzzle piece symbolizes something? (...I mean, beyond than the obvious 
> inner struggle of the soul alone in cosmos)
>

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Re: [tw5] Voting for v5.1.22 banner

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thank you all, I am honoured! That was tight. 

All the best
Thomas

Am Mittwoch, 8. April 2020 13:46:18 UTC+2 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> We’ve now had 50 entries, and we have a winner - Thomas Elmiger’s design 
> won 26.5% of the vote, with the runner up garnering 23.5%. Congratulations 
> to Thomas, and to all the entrants. The new banner will shortly be visible 
> on https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On 31 Mar 2020, at 10:28, Jeremy Ruston > 
> wrote:
>
> We’ve had 34 responses so far, and the results look close, so your vote 
> could make a big difference!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> 
>
> On 31 Mar 2020, at 10:26, Hubert > wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> Great news, I'm looking forward to the official release of 5.1.22!
>
> PS. I've just voted.
>
> Best regards,
> Hubert
>
> On Monday, 30 March 2020 16:13:20 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who entered the competition (see 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/rYrja18_SfQ/discussion). 
>> I’m now making preparations for the release of v5.1.22 so it's time for 
>> everyone to vote for their favourite design. Please follow the instructions 
>> here:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdgS8bum8yoTTw-2n6s9-BxEmcaJAs5Mks7OR7os8JcxRa4Fg/viewform
>>
>> I’ll leave voting open for at least 3 days from now,
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Announcement: TW5-powered ebooks

[Thomas Elmiger]

Wow! Congrats to the whole team.

At first sight, the search features impressed me most, other parts resemble 
ideas I had myself (e.g. 1 tiddler per paragraph). I will have to explore 
more.

>
> There are almost 60K books in German that you can test here: 
> https://www.7switch.com/de/list/drmfree/lang-ger/new/territory-FR/page/1/price
>  
> :-)
>
>  
By the way: If you delete "Einen" then the text would fit on the button 
shown below also in German. And it would not harm the meaning in any way. 
(In Switzerland we always assume French would take up most space.)

[image: Bildschirmfoto 2020-03-14 um 16.01.03.png]


Last and least: Languages symbolised by flags as on your website often 
don’t match. I read books in German, but I am Swiss so the German flag does 
not appeal to me in the way it might be intended. Possibly it is the same 
for English speaking Canadians or US citicens. 

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[tw5] Re: Covid & Tiddlywiki

[Thomas Elmiger]

Just for the record: 

 it uses the display:none css on a div if I'm reading it right
>

This is true, but it is important to note, that while the content is not 
revealed and the display:none css is active, the respective HTML node is 
EMPTY like the  in 



when the content is revealed, the node is filled using Javascript as stated 
above and would look like this: 


   This is the revealed content
   And this is some text


So the strength of  reveal lies in hiding content, e.g. the solution of a 
test – you cannot peek into the solution by looking at the HTML code. 

An HTML summary details combination would always keep the hidden content 
ready in the HTML. No Javascript needed.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Covid & Tiddlywiki

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Steve,

I don’t know what Mat is referring to, but I mentioned Glitch a few times 
here, where you can publish a TW and reserve writing access for yourself or 
others knowing the credentials. The quickest way to set up a live TW for 
the web. 

https://nota-bene.glitch.me/ is my personal set-up documentation, only a 
few steps to follow. 

Points that might be on the negative side: 

   - yourname.glitch.me domain
   - goes to sleep when not used

Positive: near-live updates for people watching, whe you edit.

Examples: https://telmiger.glitch.me/ (some personal notes), 
https://bitsnpieces.glitch.me/ (thoughts about TiddlyWiki)

=== 

Another solution I can think of: Maybe you can publish (upload) documents 
to your blog: Why not upload a TW.html file? If it is only text information 
it should load fast, even if the file size looks big as most servers 
compress files they send to the browser. 

===

Regarding the (maybe) main point of your OT: the reveal widget uses 
Javascript to insert/remove elements dynamically into/from the document. So 
that would not be easy to copy over to a blog.

As an alternative you could use my Details plugin 
 – 
it produces an HTML 5 details-summary construct that can visually hide and 
show content that is always present. (The browser can handle it without 
Javascript). The resulting HTML can be copied over to another CMS and will 
probably not look the same but still work in most modern browsers. (Other 
will present the content in open state as they don’t understand the tags.)

I hope this helps.

All the best to you and your students!
Thomas



Am Sonntag, 8. März 2020 20:18:05 UTC+1 schrieb Mat:
>
> I think someone very recently published or maybe just linked to some kind 
> of public no-write edition. Hopefully someone will fill in what I'm 
> referring to here.
>
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[tw5] Re: A Tiddlers' foot

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Luis,

Thanks for sharing – I did not try it yet. Could you give us some more info 
please? What is a foot? Who could use this and with what effect? Is there a 
demo somewhare or could you provide a screenshot?

Have a great day!
Thomas

Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2020 13:57:49 UTC+1 schrieb Luis Gonzalez:
>
> This is my first plugi. Is a little foot for all tiddlers.
>

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[tw5] Re: SVG animation with JavaScript

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Diego,

The attached tid file contains my new splashscreen including an SVG 
graphic. Basically, it seems to work on https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html – 
but I still have questions myself: 

- The animation is not visible in my browsers on the splash screen – would 
there be a way?
-- but: when I open the tiddler in the wiki and add *html* to the pragma 
rules, the animation is visible
- Macros can not be included (I tried to show the TW <>) – would 
there be a way?

All the best,
Thomas

Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2020 17:10:21 UTC+1 schrieb Diego Mesa:
>
> Thanks all for their great work!
>
> I want to ask again to see if anyone can provide instructions to get this 
> to work as a splash screen? Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: Easiest and privacy concerned way to publish online for a single user

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mario,

One more option, in contrast to TiddlySpot running under https would be Gitch. 
See
https://nota-bene.glitch.me/

Good luck! 
Thomas 

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[tw5] Re: simple svg animations demo

[Thomas Elmiger]

A Gloom, that is a really, really nice example – thanks a lot! 

It’s is simply amazing what you are capable of coding by hand.

As suggested, I have adopted (and adapted) it for my SVG editor, I hope 
that’s o.k. and I did not make too many mistakes. What I wanted to change: 
- adapt to 128 x 128 canvas
- simplify code even more (.00 removed from numbers, common/redundant 
settings of several elements moved to superior new  element)
- coding style as in my other examples (istead of style="fill:..." I use 
fill="...

Result: 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html#Animations%202:%5B%5BAnimations%202%5D%5D%20%5B%5BSVG%20Editor%5D%5D%20%5B%5BWelcome%20Player%20Two%5D%5D
 


Thanks again and all the best
Thomas

Am Mittwoch, 4. März 2020 06:45:34 UTC+1 schrieb Mohammad:
>
> Cool job!
> Why not to submit to Thomas SVG Live Editor!
> It was siad, it will collect cool svgs to add to its library.
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 7:32:08 AM UTC+3:30, A Gloom wrote:
>>
>> Revised- added black barckground so it can be seen as originally 
>> designed, the light colors used probably didn't display very weel on ppl's 
>> normal white backgrounds-- it's still isn't always remebered I operate my 
>> computer counter to how everyone does-- regardless, austere I stride on
>>
>> new attachment has annotations identifying  elements and their animation
>>
>> 12 animated elements
>>
>> animation of opacity (central gow), radius (shrinking circles), rotation 
>> animation (rings), motion animation along a path (orbiting orbs)
>>
>> these are simple 2D animations to keep it simple, no z-axis so it doesn't 
>> have a 3D appearence
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

@Mark Well, the tag field is a field ... radios can handle a field.
Did you see my last post?



'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki  schrieb am Do., 27.
Feb. 2020, 23:14:

> @Thomas -- the radio button doesn't bind to tag fields, and doesn't have a
> documented action attribute (though I think all widgets inherit an action
> attribute).
>
> @Dave
>
> I think the technique I developed for this thread
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O5Mg0naxHl4/RW19q37HAQAJ
>
> could be adapted for your use. Basically, it binds the checkbox to a dummy
> field so the presentation is
> controlled by the code and not by the relation. Then it uses checkaction
> and uncheckaction
> to actually change tag state.
>
> The question that immediately comes to mind is, won't there be times when
> you went
> to see two reference presentations at once?
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am
>> suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead of
>>> checkboxes:
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Thomas
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[tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

Yeah, I see. You would have to change the whole logic. 

At the moment you create a list of tiddlers:

$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refscontext 

 
$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refslinks 

 
$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludeclean 

 
$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse 

 

... and manipulate one of them via checkbox (set/remove the viewtemplate 
tag). That’s fine for a list of tiddlers. You could use buttons instead 
that do the same PLUS remove the viewtemplate tag from all others. Note: 
Each button would need a list of *all others* for that.

To use *radio buttons* instead, you would need one new tiddler you can 
change via a set of radio buttons and where you store the title of the 
active template. The templates would always keep the viewtemplate tag.

In the view templates you would have to add a check, if the template is 
active. Something like this maybe:

<$list filter="***is this the active template?***>

   <$list 
filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[outlines]!tag[hide]sort[title]] 
-[is[current]]">
   ...
   


I really should go to bed now, I hope you get the idea.

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[tw5] Re: SVG animation with JavaScript

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mohamed

It might not be possible to use Javascript in order to manipulate 
appearance (of anything, not only SVG) within TiddlyWiki – at least not in 
a convenient way.

On the other hand: It should be possible to animate SVG without JS. I do 
not fully understand this (yet) myself, but as an example you can 
copy-paste the code below into my SVG editor on 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html

Have fun!
Thomas


http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;>

  
  
  
  

  
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; x1="15" y1="55" x2="80" y2="40" 
stroke-width="25" stroke="green" marker-end="url(#Arrow)"/>
 http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; transform=
"scale(1),translate(-10,20)">
 
  
  
  
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xlink:href="#Q" xmlns:xlink=
"http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; transform="translate(20,80),scale(4)"/>


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[tw5] Re: Query: Smart Quotes?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mario and TT

I am a bit tired, so I just want to quickly throw in some CSS examples for 
your information. In my themes I use these to control the display of 
quotes: 

blockquote, q {
quotes: "\201C""\201D""\2018""\2019";
}

OR this for Swiss quotes: 

blockquote, q {
quotes: "\00AB""\00BB""\2039""\203A";
}

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[tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi David,

If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead of 
checkboxes: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget

All the best, 
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[tw5] Re: TEST your tiddlywiki knowledge

[Thomas Elmiger]

Interesting questions, Luis.

I miss a very simple solution for 1) though: 

– switch off CamelCase linking in $:/ControlPanel > Settings

All the best,
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[tw5] Re: Making it easier to share demos/snippets in Google Groups

[Thomas Elmiger]

Sorry for spamming. For me, the second link only works when I copy and 
paste it manually. 
All other attempts seem to be intercepted and ruined by Google.
:(

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[tw5] Re: Making it easier to share demos/snippets in Google Groups

[Thomas Elmiger]

Does this work?

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/share.html##%5B%7B%22title%22%3A%22%24%3A%2FStoryList%22%2C%22created%22%3A%2220200207221124736%22%2C%22text%22%3A%22%22%2C%22list%22%3A%22%24%3A%2Ftelmiger%2Fsvg%2Fstyles.css%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fimages%2Fsave-button%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fimages%2Fexcise%22%2C%22modified%22%3A%2220200207221132178%22%7D%2C%7B%22created%22%3A%2220200111221027181%22%2C%22text%22%3A%22%2F*%20Use%20classes%20to%20apply%20colour%20%E2%80%93%20thus%20designers%20can%20use%20%5Cn%20%20%20your%20SVGs%20in%20different%20looking%20themes%20using%20CSS%20only%20*%2F%5Cn%5Cn.icon-accent%20%7B%20%5Cn%20%20%20fill%3A%20orange%3B%5Cn%20%20%20stroke%3A%20orange%3B%5Cn%7D%5Cnbutton%20.tc-image-button%2C%20a%20.tc-image-button%20%7B%5Cn%20%20%20fill%3A%20currentColor%3B%5Cn%7D%5Cnbutton%3Ahover%20.icon-accent%2C%20a%3Ahover%20.icon-accent%20%7B%20%5Cn%20%20%20fill%3A%20inherit%3B%5Cn%7D%22%2C%22title%22%3A%22%24%3A%2Ftelmiger%2Fsvg%2Fstyles.css%22%2C%22tags%22%3A%22%24%3A%2Ftags%2FStylesheet%22%2C%22modifier%22%3A%22Thomas%20Elmiger%22%2C%22modified%22%3A%2220200207221547757%22%2C%22creator%22%3A%22Thomas%20Elmiger%22%7D%2C%7B%22created%22%3A%2220200120062707567%22%2C%22text%22%3A%22%3Csvg%20width%3D%5C%pt%5C%22%20height%3D%5C%pt%5C%22%20class%3D%5C%22tc-image-save-button%20tc-image-button%5C%22%20viewBox%3D%5C%220%200%20128%20128%5C%22%3E%3Cg%20fill-rule%3D%5C%22evenodd%5C%22%3E%5Cn%3Cpath%20class%3D%5C%22icon-accent%5C%22%20d%3D%5C%22%5CnM59%2073.5%5CnL59%2073.5%2042%2056.6%5Cnc-3.127-3.127-8.2-3.123-11.32-0-3.123%203.123-3.12%208.2%200%2011.32%5Cnl22.62%2022.62%5Cna8%208%200%200%200%205.66%202.35%5Cnc2%200%204.1%20-.8%205.66%20-2.35%5Cnl59%20-59%5Cna8%208%200%200%200%20-12%20-12z%5Cn%5C%22%2F%3E%5Cn%20%20%3Cpath%20stroke-width%3D0%20transform%3D%5C%22scale(5.8)%5C%22%20d%3D%5C%22M21.4%207.2c.4%201.2.6%202.5.6%203.8%200%206.2-4.8%2011-11%2011a11%2011%200%20117-19.5l-1.9%202a8.3%208.3%200%20103%205l2.3-2.3z%5C%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E%22%2C%22title%22%3A%22%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fimages%2Fsave-button%22%2C%22tags%22%3A%22%24%3A%2Ftags%2FImage%22%2C%22modifier%22%3A%22Thomas%20Elmiger%22%2C%22modified%22%3A%2220200207221200022%22%2C%22creator%22%3A%22Thomas%20Elmiger%22%7D%2C%7B%22created%22%3A%2220200126214854279%22%2C%22text%22%3A%22%3Csvg%20width%3D%5C%pt%5C%22%20height%3D%5C%pt%5C%22%20class%3D%5C%22tc-image-excise%20tc-image-button%5C%22%20viewBox%3D%5C%220%200%20128%20128%5C%22%3E%5Cn%3Cpath%20d%3D%5C%22%5CnM56%2098%20l-7%207%5Cna8%208%200%201%201%20-11.3%20-11.3%20l20.7-20.7%5Cna8%208%200%200%201%205.7%20-2.4%5Cnc2%200%204%20.9%205.6%202.4%20l20.7%2020.7%5Cna8%208%200%200%201%20-11.3%2011.3%20l-7-7%5CnV120%5Cna8%208%200%200%201%20-16%200z%5C%22%2F%3E%5Cn%3Crect%20class%3D%5C%22icon-accent%5C%22%20width%3D%5C%2216%5C%22%20height%3D%5C%2248%5C%22%20rx%3D%5C%228%5C%22%20x%3D%5C%2256%5C%22%20y%3D%5C%220%5C%22%2F%3E%5Cn%3Crect%20width%3D%5C%2216%5C%22%20height%3D%5C%2248%5C%22%20rx%3D%5C%228%5C%22%20x%3D%5C%220%5C%22%20y%3D%5C%2228%5C%22%2F%3E%5Cn%3Crect%20width%3D%5C%2216%5C%22%20height%3D%5C%2248%5C%22%20rx%3D%5C%228%5C%22%20x%3D%5C%2228%5C%22%20y%3D%5C%2228%5C%22%2F%3E%5Cn%3Crect%20width%3D%5C%2216%5C%22%20height%3D%5C%2248%5C%22%20rx%3D%5C%228%5C%22%20x%3D%5C%2284%5C%22%20y%3D%5C%2228%5C%22%2F%3E%5Cn%3Crect%20width%3D%5C%2216%5C%22%20height%3D%5C%2248%5C%22%20rx%3D%5C%228%5C%22%20x%3D%5C%22112%5C%22%20y%3D%5C%2228%5C%22%2F%3E%5Cn%3C%2Fsvg%3E%22%2C%22title%22%3A%22%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fimages%2Fexcise%22%2C%22tags%22%3A%22%24%3A%2Ftags%2FImage%22%2C%22modifier%22%3A%22Thomas%20Elmiger%22%2C%22modified%22%3A%2220200207221212825%22%2C%22creator%22%3A%22Thomas%20Elmiger%22%7D%5D

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[tw5] WCAG Accessibility, labels and tooltips...

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Steve,

Usually, “A label can be bound to an element either by using the "for" 
attribute, or by placing the element inside the  element” according to
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_label.asp

So something like

Explanation of what can be selected
<$select... >...


should be good enough?!

All the best, 
Thomas 

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hello friends of SVG,

The newest version of https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html comes with a new 
intro, better documentation, bugfixes (including CSS flaw mentioned by 
Alfonso), new and improved icons, more examples ...

Check it out and send feedback, but be warned: I will be away from my 
computer for some days.

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: In Theory ... All Tiddlers Open On Start -- Search Reduces ??

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Josiah,

In practice, my listreveal plugin 
 
would allow to build a tiddler that lists everything. Here’s an example:
https://telmiger.glitch.me/#List%20of%20all%20tiddlers

Does that come close to what you want? Tiddlers are initially collapsed, 
but else ... (I hav no intention to change this behaviour by the way.)

Good luck,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Tony, TT and all,

An updated version is online (mainly docs and interface): 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html

Once we understand this better lets extend the doco. Share with me and I 
> can do it.
>
>
I opened an issue: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4417

And I tried to document my findings: 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html#Learning

All the best,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Work done with TW

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Gloom,

This looks and sounds very sophisticated (I am not a player, but find it 
nice and impressive and interesting).

How many hours did you put into this?

Thanks for the showcase!
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

TT,

I am not sure either. But if you could state the difference in one simple 
sentence, I would consider to add it to 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html#Learn%20more%20about%20SVG

Cheers,
Thomas

Am Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 17:09:28 UTC+1 schrieb TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Thomas
>
> Not sure it is your job to document the difference between vanilla svg and 
> svg with an xml directive.
>
> What I would say is it tricks a lot people up.
>
> It IS documented at: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Using%20SVG though so 
> lightly you'd probably never notice.
>
> TT
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Xavier,

I don’t know what your link example should do but the link did not work for 
me (= nothing happend after copying your example to the editor and clicking 
the link in the preview).

Anyway I think that links should be put around an svg instead of inside an 
svg. A button can do anything and look like anything in TW and you can 
decorate it with an icon. 

All the best and keep the ideas coming!
-t

Am Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 19:50:20 UTC+1 schrieb Xavier:
>
> this seems to work:
>
> 
>title="This is a link title in SVG!">Add a contact information 
> tiddler
> 
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Xavier and all,

Also, mixing some TW5 widgets like <$list> could give us inspirations for 
> dynamically generated drawings :-)
>

Get inspired on 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html#Drawing%20patterns%20TW-style and then 
show us your art!

Happy weekend, 
Thomas


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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Gloom and Tony

Try adding xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; in the opening svg tag. It 
might be invalid without that.

-t

Am Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 11:24:15 UTC+1 schrieb A Gloom:
>
> Tony
>
> is the type for the svg tiddler set as svg?
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Xavier and all,

What is cool about publishing stuff: You get feedback that pushes you out 
of your comfort zone like this one from Xavier:

Thank you for this very useful resource! May I suggest that you add an 
> example to illustrate WikiText inclusion (especially transclusion) in SVG?
>

Now in the newest version of the SVG Playground on 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html you will find a newly developed svg 
exporter AND an example with cool transclusions. 

It worked for me, let me know how it works for you. (Responses might take 
some days.)

All the best,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Ciao Alfonso, 

Love your feedback, thanks! I had hoped nobody would notice ;–)

Will fix when I find time.

Cheers,
Thomas

Am Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2020 23:35:39 UTC+1 schrieb Alfonso Arciniega:
>
>  issue:
>
> The "close all" button under the Open tab doesn't look like a button at 
> all. Tested under Windows 10 in both Chrome and Firefox.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Tony,

I tested your example, this worked for me including download and import on 
tiddlywiki.com. Home Sweet Home gets very tiny of course and might be in 
Times font (depends on CSS of the wiki.)
=> Would need more info about your workflow. 

Thanks a lot for your other inspiring comments!

All the best, 
Thomas

Am Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 01:10:45 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> For Example,
>
> The Following in the SVG editor works, but will not when pasted to a SVG 
> tiddler
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Ciao Josiah,

Nope. When I change the CSS to 100% on my MacBook Air in FF the SVG is full 
viewport hight. And I would like to see at least a part of the editor 
window too. 

So I have plans to test a side by side option (editor left, result right) 
but that might take some time. 

Your communication was crystal clear :)

Cheers,
-t

Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2020 13:38:18 UTC+1 schrieb TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao Thomas
>
> FYI, I should have been clearer! By "width 100%" I meant of the containing 
> div  within the Tiddler, not the viewport.
> That should work everywhere?
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Salut Xavier,

Thank you for the feedback, I will consider your suggestions. 

I will think about more examples for a while, there are a lot of SVG topics 
we could cover. Plus, there would be a lot of TW related topics like 
transclusion or calculations. (I think generative art would be possible ... 
not sure I will go this far.)

A propos loading examples directly: I am not sure, this would be an 
improvement for beginners. (I did not try yet, but ...) I suppose checking 
what examples are available in the select could lead to overwriting work a 
user did before. So until now I see the push of an extra button as a safety 
net.

Let me know how you see it.

A bientôt!
Thomas

Am Montag, 13. Januar 2020 10:50:06 UTC+1 schrieb Xavier:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Thank you for this very useful resource! May I suggest that you add an 
> example to illustrate WikiText inclusion (especially transclusion) in SVG?
>
> Also, here is an optimisation to move the example loading action directly 
> into the select widget:
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hello all, 

On my way to work I put a new version online 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html :)

Optimisations:

   - Select and load examples 
   - I just had to add captions to examples (thanks, Mohammad!)
   - Export button (thanks, Gloom!)
   - Additional raster (renamed "grid") size 5 (thanks, Josiah!)
   - TW icons from prerelease 5.1.22 (less code)
   - Link to top
   - ...
   
Pending:

   - Size options: I am thinking about resizing buttons as YouTube has them 
   for the video player
   (width 100% is not optimal on my tiny laptop screen).
   
Best,
Thomas

Am Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 15:08:35 UTC+1 schrieb TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao Thomas
>
> Looking at it more I'm thinking "Width 100%" is optimal! Are there reasons 
> not to have that as default?
>
> Just thoughts
> J, x
>
> On Sunday, 12 January 2020 14:53:17 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Thomas
>>
>> Following up on on my last post ... the setting of "100% width" plus  
>> "Open in new window" is pretty much equivalent to "Edit at full-width". 
>> Something worth thinking about to give a button for automating that in the 
>> interface?
>>
>> Hope this is clear!
>>
>> Just thoughts
>> TT
>>
>> On Sunday, 12 January 2020 14:45:50 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello friends, a new version is live on 
>>>> https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the CSS editor below the result you can see *width: 70vh; *– this 
>>>> tells the graphic to use a width corresponding to 70% of viewport 
>>>> height.Try other values or entities and let us know what works best on 
>>>> your 
>>>> screens.
>>>
>>>  
>>> Ciao Thomas
>>>
>>> Excellent info & changes ...
>>>
>>> FYI: I changed width to 100% and then "open in new window". Then 
>>> editing  is excellent!
>>>
>>> At that scale I'd like to increase the raster intervals more though ... 
>>> so ... *Raster "5, 10, 20, none"* would be really good! :-)
>>>  
>>>
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It did.
>>>
>>> J, x 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hello friends, a new version is live on https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html :)

Optimisations:

   - Choose raster: 10 or 20 or none (minimalistiv version of what Josiah 
   suggested)
   - Copy to clipboard: Buttons for code examples and for images from the 
   TW library
   
Scaling hints (for Josiah and all others interested):

   - The size of the result should adapt to the space available in the 
   browser window.
   - In the CSS editor below the result you can see *width: 70vh; *– this 
   tells the graphic to use a width corresponding to 70% of viewport height.
  - Try other values or entities and let us know what works best on 
  your screens.
   
Hope that helps.
-t

Am Samstag, 11. Januar 2020 13:19:56 UTC+1 schrieb TiddlyTweeter:
>
> The single biggest issue with editing SVG in TW is everything is too small!
>
> On  a desktop it would be great if one could 
>
>(1) maximise the edit window; 
>
>(2) alter the raster grid intervals interactively. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi all,

There’s a new version online: https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html

Major improvements: 

   - Raster can be switched on/off
   - Advanced icon editing instructions as proposed by Eric and Tony
   - Original TW themes restored so palettes are usable as missed by Mario

Hidden improvements:

   - Code examples excised (for later direct import into the editor as 
   suggested by Mohammad)

To do:

   - Example code import into editor
   - SVG export (or export instructions, e.g. inspect in browser, copy 
outer html)

@A Gloom, if you have more input for the last point I would be interested, 
not sure if I understand the problem. But I didn’t make any attempts to run 
into it either ;–)

Good night,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thanks for all the comments!

Mohammad, I will put these on my todo list:

>
>1. above the live editor a drop down list can be used to seamlessly 
>lets select among examples
>2. a button can be used to export the svg
>
> --Mohammad
>

-t 

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[tw5] Demo: SVG live editor

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi folks,

Just wanted to let you know why I love TiddlyWiki: Get inspired by a tweet 
, build a brand 
new tool in less than two hours, add examples, learn on the way, publish 
... this is all so easy if you know what TW can do.

The idea: Learn SVG coding by example: https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html is 
a live SVG editor – just a start, updates might follow. 

Let me know what you think and send additional examples or links if you see 
something interesting. 

Best,
Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Fields should have definitions

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi bimlas,

Regarding your example:

> For example, if I want to use a custom macro instead of "<>", which 
> can open all tiddlers, I simply replace the template in the "tags" field 
> definition with a macro I want. 
>

I once made a plugin to get my own template working with tags ... took me 8 
tiddlers plus config/docs. (Link 
)

So I would support any idea to improve the hackability of (special) fields.

All the best,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: How to change border color (in search bar for example)? Not given in pallette options.

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Matthew and Eric,

It might be tempting to add your own classes to core tiddlers – but in most 
cases, if you know enough about CSS, it is not necessary and I would advise 
against it. 

Here’s a solution I used some time ago (before I made Simple Search 
) 
to tune my search fields: 

textarea, input[type="text"], input[type="search"], input[type=""], input:
not([type]) { padding-left: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.175em; -webkit-
appearance: none; -moz-appearance: none; }
.tc-sidebar-lists .tc-search { margin-top: 40px; margin-bottom: 20px; 
position: relative; z-index: 10; }

.tc-search input[type="search"] { border: 2px inset black; box-sizing: 
border-box; margin: 0; } 
.tc-search input[type="search"]:focus { border: 2px inset red; box-sizing: 
border-box; margin: 0; }

Note the two last lines, they demonstrate how to address the search field 
in the sidebar AND in the advanced search at the same time. 
The very last line shows how to change the border color when the field has 
the focus.

The first line in the code adds some spacing between borders and content of 
most fields in TW and probably makes sure mobile browsers do not apply 
their own styles. I don’t know if this is still necessary.
The second line adds some whitespace above and below the search field in 
the sidebar, just a matter of taste I guess.

Have fun,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: How to change border color (in search bar for example)? Not given in pallette options.

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Matthew,

You don’t have to change that tiddler. You can put Ton’s code in a tiddler 
and tag it as described here . 
The tag $:/tags/Stylesheet 
 makes 
it a stylesheet that will be applied to your wiki.

Best,
Thomas


>> .tc-popup-handle {
>>  border: 5px blue;
>>  border-style: dotted;
>> }
>>
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