[TV orNotTV] Re: Late-night upheaval: A six-night-a-week issue

2013-04-03 Thread M-D November
Also consider that Seth Meyers is largely considered the heir apparent to 
the 12:35 Late Night slot, although it remains to be seen how a probable 
move to LA would factor into Meyers taking the job.

Also, what's the status of Jason Sudeikis?  Conventional wisdom was that 
he'd be done with SNL after the general election, but he's still hanging 
around (although he's not being used the way he once was - I spotted him in 
all of one sketch during the recent Timberlake episode).

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 10:15:37 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Brad Beam, in part:

  With Lorne Michaels planning to become TSwJF's showrunner in February, 
 has anybody considered the possibility that he may step down from SNL to 
 concentrate on NBC's weeknight late-night franchise instead?


 Even if he doesn't, they could lose Nasim Pedrad... she's been signed to 
 another Lorne project, a sitcom created by John Mulaney... 
 EWhttp://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/03/snl-comedienne-joins-lorne-michaels-pilot/has,
  f'rinstance, her WU spot as Arianna Huffington...

 -- BOB


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Late-night upheaval: A six-night-a-week issue

2013-04-04 Thread M-D November
I would think his job as an executive at Bravo would make Andy Cohen a 
non-starter (plus, yes, he's too HELLO! for the fratboy 12:35 audience). 
 Would love to see Tyler get the gig - yeah, she's been on The Talk, but I 
think her standup and Archer easily counterbalances).

It'll be interesting to see where NBC goes next, since they're not only 
counterprogramming Craig, but also the late rerun of TDS.

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:59:15 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Meanwhile, this morning Curt Wagner, TV critic at the Chicago Tribune's 
 young demo tab RedEye, made some suggestions for Late Night besides 
 Meyers, which he seems not enthused about the possibility:  Andy Cohen 
 (part of the NBCU family, but I think too Bravo and too gay for the bros), 
 Aisha Tyler (yeah, there should be non-white and women late-night hosts and 
 she would be great at it, but I think that doing the Chenbot show takes 
 away the hipness quotient Archer gives her), Amy Poehler (another NBCU 
 family member, but too big for late-night and besides, Sikula would burst) 
 and How Was Your Week podcaster Julie Klausner (there will now be a pause 
 while everyone says who?).

 Mark Jeffries
 Saints Spotlight Editor
 spotl...@gmail.com javascript:


 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:28 AM, M-D November mdnov...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Also consider that Seth Meyers is largely considered the heir apparent to 
 the 12:35 Late Night slot, although it remains to be seen how a probable 
 move to LA would factor into Meyers taking the job.

 Also, what's the status of Jason Sudeikis?  Conventional wisdom was that 
 he'd be done with SNL after the general election, but he's still hanging 
 around (although he's not being used the way he once was - I spotted him in 
 all of one sketch during the recent Timberlake episode).


 On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 10:15:37 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Brad Beam, in part:

  With Lorne Michaels planning to become TSwJF's showrunner in 
 February, has anybody considered the possibility that he may step down 
 from 
 SNL to concentrate on NBC's weeknight late-night franchise instead?


 Even if he doesn't, they could lose Nasim Pedrad... she's been signed to 
 another Lorne project, a sitcom created by John Mulaney... 
 EWhttp://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/03/snl-comedienne-joins-lorne-michaels-pilot/has,
  f'rinstance, her WU spot as Arianna Huffington...

 -- BOB

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon

2013-04-06 Thread M-D November
My mother calls earlier today and says 'Well, David...I see you didn't get 
the Tonight Show again'...

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 4:26:32 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Kevin M. drunkba...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Letterman discussed things during his desk segment following the first
 commercial break, and his Top 10 list was Things we'll miss about Jay
 Leno. Worth a look-see.


 He also had a few monologue jokes about it, and in general had a jolly 
 Dave-time with it. 


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Late-night upheaval: A six-night-a-week issue

2013-04-06 Thread M-D November
If NBC could get itself away from the mindset that 12:35 HAS to be 
unconventional comedy, and could instead be more Synderesque (for lack of a 
better term), Maddow might not be a bad choice.  (Olbermann might not be 
either, except...well, you know.)

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 1:33:21 PM UTC-4, Joe Coughlin wrote:

 Rachel Maddow? 

 On 4/4/13, M-D November mdnov...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  I would think his job as an executive at Bravo would make Andy Cohen a 
  non-starter (plus, yes, he's too HELLO! for the fratboy 12:35 audience). 
   Would love to see Tyler get the gig - yeah, she's been on The Talk, but 
 I 
  think her standup and Archer easily counterbalances). 
  
  It'll be interesting to see where NBC goes next, since they're not only 
  counterprogramming Craig, but also the late rerun of TDS. 
  
  On Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:59:15 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote: 
  
  Meanwhile, this morning Curt Wagner, TV critic at the Chicago Tribune's 
  young demo tab RedEye, made some suggestions for Late Night besides 
  Meyers, which he seems not enthused about the possibility:  Andy Cohen 
  (part of the NBCU family, but I think too Bravo and too gay for the 
 bros), 
  
  Aisha Tyler (yeah, there should be non-white and women late-night hosts 
  and 
  she would be great at it, but I think that doing the Chenbot show takes 
  away the hipness quotient Archer gives her), Amy Poehler (another 
 NBCU 
  family member, but too big for late-night and besides, Sikula would 
 burst) 
  
  and How Was Your Week podcaster Julie Klausner (there will now be a 
  pause 
  while everyone says who?). 
  
  Mark Jeffries 
  Saints Spotlight Editor 
  spotl...@gmail.com javascript: 
  
  
  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:28 AM, M-D November 
  mdnov...@gmail.comjavascript: 
   wrote: 
  
  Also consider that Seth Meyers is largely considered the heir apparent 
 to 
  
  the 12:35 Late Night slot, although it remains to be seen how a 
  probable 
  move to LA would factor into Meyers taking the job. 
  
  Also, what's the status of Jason Sudeikis?  Conventional wisdom was 
 that 
  
  he'd be done with SNL after the general election, but he's still 
 hanging 
  
  around (although he's not being used the way he once was - I spotted 
 him 
  in 
  all of one sketch during the recent Timberlake episode). 
  
  
  On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 10:15:37 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote: 
  
  
  Brad Beam, in part: 
  
   With Lorne Michaels planning to become TSwJF's showrunner in 
  February, has anybody considered the possibility that he may step 
 down 
  from 
  SNL to concentrate on NBC's weeknight late-night franchise instead? 
  
  
  Even if he doesn't, they could lose Nasim Pedrad... she's been signed 
 to 
  
  another Lorne project, a sitcom created by John Mulaney... 
  EW
 http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/03/snl-comedienne-joins-lorne-michaels-pilot/has,
  

  f'rinstance, her WU spot as Arianna Huffington... 
  
  -- BOB 
  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Well, Elvis Costello has his wish

2013-04-08 Thread M-D November
I'm sure he'll say something in his newspaper column.

On Monday, April 8, 2013 11:23:15 AM UTC-4, David Bruggeman wrote:

 A pity that Top Gear is in between series right now.  Clarkson's reaction 
 might be interesting.

 David

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 *Subject:* [TV orNotTV] Well, Elvis Costello has his wish
  
 The pioneering 80s rocker was never fond of one leader of his native 
 Britain, zinging Margaret Thatcher in songs such as Tramp The Dirt Down.

 With Thatcher's passing this morning (4/8) at 87, 
 TheWraphttp://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/margaret-thatcher-and-hollywood-how-entertainment-portrayed-prime-minister-84521takes
  a look at how showbiz looked at the Iron Lady, good and bad, 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: NCIS stunt casting news

2013-04-10 Thread M-D November
It may be stunt casting, but NCIS usually* makes really good use of its 
stunt-casted actors (see: Lily Tomlin as McGee's grandmother, Robert Wagner 
as DiNozo Sr., Bob Newhart as Duckie's colleague/mentor, etc.) - I'm 
confident this will be as well.

*Jury's still out on Jamie Lee Curtis, and the less said about Rena Sofer, 
the better.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:43:51 PM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

 Per the various NCIS cast Twitter feeds, Colin Hanks will be guest 
 starring in the final two episodes of the season as a Federal 
 prosecutor. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: P/T confusion at CBS

2013-04-15 Thread M-D November
CBS was frustrating as hell last night.  When I turned over at 7pm, 
expecting to see SOME delay due to golf and looking to see how late things 
would get pushed (since I didn't get an EyeAlert), I couldn't believe they 
stayed with the Masters - or, really, their 'cabin in the woods' postgame 
show - for almost a full hour into Primetime. CBS really needs a cable 
outlet so they can shunt nonsense like that over and run primetime as 
scheduled.

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 11:02:07 PM UTC-4, Tom Wolper wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Bob in Jersey 
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 [Emily] Never mind. [/Emily]

 Everything starting x:56 East/Central. -- BOB


 They NEVER bag 60 Minutes. 
  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Zadan/Meron remain Oscars producers

2013-04-18 Thread M-D November
Hard to call it a fiasco when it pulled good numbers.  And honestly, I 
didn't think MacFarlane was all that bad.  (Hell, after Billy Crystal and 
Hathaway/Franco lowered the bar so far the prior years, I think I'd have 
found anything to be an improvement.)

Where the producing team needs help is on the technical/direction side. 
 Some of the choices made regarding time management and show mechanics 
(that Jaws playoff music, for example) really need to be ironed out.


On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:54:23 AM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 Despite the MacFarlane fiasco... Howard Koch jnr decided to get it out of 
 the way before his departure as Academy prez.

 TheWraphttp://www.thewrap.com/awards/column-post/academy-rehires-craig-zadan-neil-meron-produce-oscars-86186

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox no longer hot for Cleveland?

2013-04-18 Thread M-D November
Wasn't there a similar concern at some point with either American Dad or 
KOTH re: FOX not doing an immediate renewal because the network still had 
enough unaired episodes banked? 

Out of curiosity, has Cleveland had a lot of episodes pulled/rescheduled 
because of NFL/NASCAR overruns this season?

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:49:31 AM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

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  Given lead times for animation production, an immediate fifth season is 
  unlikely -- although the possibility of a Family Guy-like resurrection 
 is 
  always possible. 
  http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/17/is-cleveland-show-cancelled/ 

 I confess to liking both Cleveland and American Dad but rarely 
 watching either of them. Lately I've been missing King of the Hill, so 
 the opening of the most recent Family Guy made me smile. 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Whedon's ABC show can't decide on title

2013-04-18 Thread M-D November
The way ABC promos its shows has always annoyed me (ABC's 'Grays Anatomy', 
tonight at 9, only on ABC) - and it worries me that the show will end up 
being promoed as ABC's 'Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D'.

Honestly, just call the damn show S.H.I.E.L.D.  Or Coulson  Company. 
 Because Clark Gregg is teh awesome. 

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:05:12 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 You'd think now that Marvel, on whose property this is based, is part of 
 Disney, this wouldn't be a prob.

 EW http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/17/s-h-i-e-l-d-title-tweaked-again/

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Futurama cancelled... again

2013-04-22 Thread M-D November
The landscape is very different this time around.  There's every 
possibility that Netflix, Hulu or Amazon would be interested in picking up 
Futurama.  And of course, there's still Adult Swim - they could stand to 
break up their MacFarlane-heavy early block, and Futurama might make a 
welcome return.

Or maybe I'm just a crusty old fool waiting for the Sunset Squad robots to 
arrive.  Either way, Futurama managed 7 seasons, it's in weekend 
syndication and will probably find a rerun home somewhere on cable - that's 
no small accomplishment for a show so steeped in genre humor.

On Monday, April 22, 2013 6:42:21 PM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

 This time by Comedy Central 


 http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/futurama-cancelled-by-comedy-central-1200406963/
  
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[TV orNotTV] New open for Late Show

2013-04-22 Thread M-D November
Not sure if this was brand new tonight or if was in use before Dave's 
recent vacation, but Late Show has finally ditched the crappy CGI open 
for actual footage of New York City and (what I thought was) a classy 
graphics package.  

They also seem to have changed the shot list following the VTR:
1) reverse angle shot of audience (not sure if handheld or jib - possibly 
shot from Dave's desk riser)
2) catwalk shot angled down to shoot through the scrim during Dave's dash 
to stage left
3) over-the-shoulder on Paul as the scrim goes up and Dave makes his 
entrance
4) back to the reverse angle shot, now at (roughly) floor height, as Dave 
finds his mark
5) finally to the hard camera for the start of the monologue

This may not seem important, since neither is a MATERIAL change (there was 
still a Regis joke within the first 90sec of the monologue, for example), 
but both changes contribute to a fresh look for the show...or at least help 
it feel less dated.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: New open for Late Show

2013-04-23 Thread M-D November
Yes, the dash to stage left happens every night.  I think it's been touched 
on here before - IIRC, it has something to do with the fact that the 
dressing rooms at the Ed Sullivan are off Stage Right, but Dave is most 
comfortable entering from upstage left (dating back to the NBC show).

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:41:29 AM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 M-D November, in part:

 2) catwalk shot angled down to shoot through the scrim during Dave's dash 
 to stage left


 Does he do this consistently?  -- BOB 


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Re: [TV orNotTV] New open for Late Show

2013-04-23 Thread M-D November
Kalter's been doing the modified introduction (From the heart of Broadway, 
broadcasting across the nation and around the world...) for a few weeks 
now, albeit over the old opening titles.  I'm glad they rewrote it - I 
always thought the old intro (From New York - the greatest city in the 
world...) was a little over the top.

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:49:31 AM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:

 Just watched it and loved it all. It really reminds me of the old Late 
 Night opens. And I like the new introduction as well by Kalter.

 Total sidebar: when I walk from my office to the bar for One Drink 
 Wednesday, I play the old LN theme on repeat. It works very nicely.

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 Not sure if this was brand new tonight or if was in use before Dave's 
 recent vacation, but Late Show has finally ditched the crappy CGI open 
 for actual footage of New York City and (what I thought was) a classy 
 graphics package.  

 They also seem to have changed the shot list following the VTR:
 1) reverse angle shot of audience (not sure if handheld or jib - possibly 
 shot from Dave's desk riser)
 2) catwalk shot angled down to shoot through the scrim during Dave's dash 
 to stage left
 3) over-the-shoulder on Paul as the scrim goes up and Dave makes his 
 entrance
 4) back to the reverse angle shot, now at (roughly) floor height, as Dave 
 finds his mark
 5) finally to the hard camera for the start of the monologue

 This may not seem important, since neither is a MATERIAL change (there 
 was still a Regis joke within the first 90sec of the monologue, for 
 example), but both changes contribute to a fresh look for the show...or at 
 least help it feel less dated.




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Re: [TV orNotTV] New open for Late Show

2013-04-23 Thread M-D November
The interesting thing is, Dave himself didn't do anything different.  The 
dash to up-left, the entrance, hitting his mark were exactly as he's done 
for god-knows-how-long.  But it's pretty amazing how a little thing like 
changing up the camera angles can make a difference.

(Also, since Dave owns his show, I suspect any notes from the network would 
find their way into the circular file.)

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:23:32 PM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

 All I could think of as I watched the new opening was a memo some CBS 
 exec undoubtedly sent to Dave, asking him to run through the crowd 
 shaking and high fiving the hands of audience members. 

 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Joe Hass hassg...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Just watched it and loved it all. It really reminds me of the old Late 
  Night opens. And I like the new introduction as well by Kalter. 
  
  Total sidebar: when I walk from my office to the bar for One Drink 
  Wednesday, I play the old LN theme on repeat. It works very nicely. 
  
  
  On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:44 PM, M-D November 
  mdnov...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  Not sure if this was brand new tonight or if was in use before Dave's 
  recent vacation, but Late Show has finally ditched the crappy CGI 
 open for 
  actual footage of New York City and (what I thought was) a classy 
 graphics 
  package. 
  
  They also seem to have changed the shot list following the VTR: 
  1) reverse angle shot of audience (not sure if handheld or jib - 
 possibly 
  shot from Dave's desk riser) 
  2) catwalk shot angled down to shoot through the scrim during Dave's 
 dash 
  to stage left 
  3) over-the-shoulder on Paul as the scrim goes up and Dave makes his 
  entrance 
  4) back to the reverse angle shot, now at (roughly) floor height, as 
 Dave 
  finds his mark 
  5) finally to the hard camera for the start of the monologue 
  
  This may not seem important, since neither is a MATERIAL change (there 
 was 
  still a Regis joke within the first 90sec of the monologue, for 
 example), 
  but both changes contribute to a fresh look for the show...or at least 
 help 
  it feel less dated. 
  
  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The worst way to start your news anchor career

2013-04-23 Thread M-D November
AJ Clemente was also the butt of Dave's top 10 list.  Naturally, both Sue 
What the f**k are you doing? Simmons and Ernie Keep f**king that 
chicken Anastos were namedropped.

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:32:36 AM UTC-4, MelissaP wrote:

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The worst way to start your news anchor career

2013-04-25 Thread M-D November
Melissa - the piece of the story that hadn't come out - that neither anchor 
had an IFB, and that Clemente wasn't aware they were on-air as he reviewed 
his copy - changes my opinion significantly.  Clemente should have 
been reprimanded, but not fired - as should the director or floor manager.

The Kid (as Letterman kept calling him) says he was nervous and 
frustrated, and I believe that.  I've done my share of cursing in the 
course of psyching myself up prior to having to speak, so I can relate. 
 Yes, he should have been more careful, given that he was standing on a TV 
set and wearing a microphone.  But he's also fresh out of college, and is 
bound to make a mistake or two.  He just happened to make his in a HUGE way.


On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:37:36 PM UTC-4, MelissaP wrote:

 Hour 3 isn’t the Kathy Lee Hour.

  

 I only watch the first two hours and therefore only saw the interview in 
 the first hour that PGage mentioned.

  

 Should he have been fired?  I dunno.  To me, his use of profanity shows a 
 lack of maturity.  Something a news anchor should have.

  

 Melissa

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 You may not be in error - the gang seemed to really like him, and maybe 
 they had him back for the Kathy Lee Hour?

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 wrote:

 My apologies for the error.



 On Apr 24, 2013, at 5:08 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Joe Hass hassg...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 Deadspin has the video from Today Hour 3, featuring a pep talk from no 
 other than Tom Brokaw. Turns out that not only did *neither* of the on-air 
 talent have IFBs (?!?), but the broadcast started 30 seconds early (?!?!?), 
 so AJ truly had no clue that he was on the air (not to excuse him, but 
 that's why both of them have the deer in the headlights look.

  

 Bonus link there to how out of touch KFYR management is when it comes to 
 Teh Tubez.

  


 http://deadspin.com/a-j-fuckin-shit-clemente-gets-pep-talk-from-news-le-479585464

  

 I saw him interviewed this morning, but it was in the 7:00 hour (I think 
 after the 7:30 break) and he was interviewed by Matt and what's her name. 
 But I did notice also for the first time that the woman anchor is also 
 surprised to be suddenly on the air (as he explained, she happened to be 
 looking up when the red light came on, while he was studying his script 
 trying to pronounce some difficult names, which was the proximate cause of 
 his F-bomb. He was much more comfortable and smooth this morning than he 
 was in the brief stint as an anchor (though, still not actually comfortable 
 or smooth). I'm still not sure if he should have been fired in the first 
 place, but I am even more sure that there was no need to fire him. He could 
 have been disciplined and reminded as others have noted that all mikes are 
 hot.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] New open for Late Show

2013-04-25 Thread M-D November
The one thing the new open shines a light on - in a big way - is how dated 
some of the other commonly-used VTR elements are.  On Monday or Tuesday, 
the Top 10 lead-in graphic was the Space Shuttle flying through various 
locations in Manhattan; the Times Square shot clearly includes the huge 
neon Fleet Bank sign that lived on the southwest corner of 46th and 
Broadway, at the Marriott Marquis.  The sign is still there, but it's been 
long-since rebranded as BoA, which bought Fleet over a decade ago.  (See it 
on Google Maps Streetview: http://goo.gl/maps/dCPO4)  Sure, the average 
viewer would probably never catch it, but...

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:34:41 PM UTC-4, Doug Fields wrote:

 I thought the new open calls back to the opening and commercial intro/
 outro shots from the old Late Night days.

 And that's a good thing...I like it.

 Doug Fields
 Tampa, FL

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 I caught the new open last night. Dumping the CG skyline is a definite 
 improvement, but I wish they hadn't replaced one piece of cheap-looking CG 
 with the cheap-looking CG version of the Ed Sullivan Theater marquee. Also, 
 there's something about the cityscape shots that felt very derivative of 
 the open Leno has used since returning to 11:35, and it may just be nothing 
 more than the film-look effect and the unmoving camera.


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 javascript:wrote:

 Not sure if this was brand new tonight or if was in use before Dave's 
 recent vacation, but Late Show has finally ditched the crappy CGI open 
 for actual footage of New York City and (what I thought was) a classy 
 graphics package.  

 They also seem to have changed the shot list following the VTR:
 1) reverse angle shot of audience (not sure if handheld or jib - possibly 
 shot from Dave's desk riser)
 2) catwalk shot angled down to shoot through the scrim during Dave's dash 
 to stage left
 3) over-the-shoulder on Paul as the scrim goes up and Dave makes his 
 entrance
 4) back to the reverse angle shot, now at (roughly) floor height, as Dave 
 finds his mark
 5) finally to the hard camera for the start of the monologue

 This may not seem important, since neither is a MATERIAL change (there 
 was still a Regis joke within the first 90sec of the monologue, for 
 example), but both changes contribute to a fresh look for the show...or at 
 least help it feel less dated.


  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: SNL archive moving to Yahoo

2013-04-25 Thread M-D November
Engadget says it's the CLIP library only, not full episodes.  So full 
episodes (save for rights-restricted segments) will remain on Hulu.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/24/yahoo-saturday-night-live-exclusive-archives/

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:57:21 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 Not sure if it'll stay more than a year.

 Not sure if or what it'll cost.

 Not sure if -- as a commenter notes -- cut musical guest pieces can be 
 restored.

 TheWraphttp://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/snl-archive-going-yahoo-87781

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[TV orNotTV] Re: COM Renews 'Jeselnik,' 'Nathan'

2013-04-26 Thread M-D November
Ugh. I'd been meaning to give Nathan for You a shot, but you lost me at 
Tim  Eric.


On Friday, April 26, 2013 2:07:14 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Anthony Jeselnik's button-pushing talk show will be back in July, while 
 Nathan Felder's parody (with real businesses) of Kitchen Nightmares/Bar 
 Rescue makeover reality shows (from the folks behind Tim and Eric) will 
 return next year on Comedy Central:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/jeselnik-offensive-nathan-you-get-comedy-central-renewals-87971


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[TV orNotTV] House of Nerds

2013-04-28 Thread M-D November
#nerdprom? REALLY?

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Studio Problems for SCG

2013-04-30 Thread M-D November
Someone turned Assmode up to 11.

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:56:54 PM UTC-4, Ben Scripps wrote:

 Tweets he tonight on @craigyferg:
  
 A/C in the studio broke  flooded half the lighting rig. Had to move 1/2 
 the audience to where the band aren't. One of those shows. 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: This... could get awkward

2013-05-02 Thread M-D November
Not so disgraced, perhaps, as we might have thought.  (Does the producer of 
a program - in this case, Sesame Workshop - have to support/endorse a 
nomination submission?)

On Thursday, May 2, 2013 10:19:11 AM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 About halfway down the list of 
 nominationshttp://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/05/2013-daytime-emmy-awards-nominations-young-and-the-restless-leads-with-23.htmlfor
  this year's Daytime Emmys is one for disgraced 
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[TV orNotTV] NOLA JazzFest Live on AXS This Weekend

2013-05-03 Thread M-D November
This would be awesome...if Comcast carried AXS. *grumble*

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NOLA JazzFest Live on AXS This Weekend

2013-05-04 Thread M-D November
Or NJ. I thought there was more consistency in the three digit channels across 
regions, but I guess not. 

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[TV orNotTV] Re: The Season's Damage So Far (Annotated)

2013-05-07 Thread M-D November
ABC would have been better off running Splash  The Taste as summer 
series. Splash, in particular, seems like a good companion show for 
Wipeout, and The Taste was a serviceable food variant of The Voice, 
albeit with issues; it was watchable primarily because of Tony Bastard 
Chef Bourdain.

NBC might give Community another frame if they don't see many comedies 
worth ordering out of pilot season, but now that Chevy's gone, they should 
really think about bringing Dan Harmon back to help the show rediscover its 
voice.  (And speaking of Chevy being gone...would it be so awful if, should 
the show get renewed, Pierce is suddenly being played by Fred Willard 
instead?)

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:53:51 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 As we're days away from upfronts, here's how last season went, according 
 to The Wrap:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/network-upfronts-2013-scorecard-so-far-89666

 Comments:  All cancelled ABC shows have played off their episodes as far 
 as I know, except for Don't Trust the B_, which will burn off online. 
  Shondra had already announced that it was Private Practice's last 
 season.  As for the rest, my guess is that Red Widow, Splash, The 
 Taste and Wife Swap are dead, Happy Endings is going to USA and 
 Nashville, The Neighbors, How to Live With Your Parents and Body of 
 Proof are on the bubble.  Too soon on Family Tools.

 CBS:  The Job's episodes have yet to burn off, the other cancellations 
 have completed.  Of the pendings, my guess is that CSI:  NY, Golden Boy 
 and Rules of Engagement are done and Vegas is on the bubble.  Friend 
 Me has yet to be scheduled, due to its showrunner committing suicide.  I 
 am not kidding.

 CW:  All cancelled shows have played out.  Of the pendings, I'm calling 
 Carrie Diaries done and Nikita coming back.

 FOX:  Of the cancelled shows, Ben and Kate is burning off in late-night 
 Saturday and there are probably some unaired Cops eps that may air in 
 syndication or on cable first.  Fringe has ended.  Of the pendings, 
 Cleveland will probably be back, since they don't have anything in the 
 cartoon pipeline for prime time, Touch is done and Goodwin Games 
 premieres May 20 (but already had an episode order cut, which is not a good 
 sign, not to mention that Fox isn't promoting it while they've been 
 promoting Does Someone Have to Go? up the wazoo).

 NBC:  Animal Practice, Do No Harm and Ready for Love all have 
 unaired eps and may show up online or on a Network of NBCU.  Next Caller, 
 the Dane Cook sitcom, may be burned off online if they ever let it out. 
  The Office and 30 Rock left of their own accords.  In the pendings, 
 Up All Night, Smash, Deception (originally titled Infamous), Fear 
 Factor, Take It All (the renamed title of Howie Mandel's White 
 Elephant--and what a prescient title that one was) and Stars Earn 
 Stripes are all dead or probably dead and I'm guessing all other sitcoms 
 and Hannibal are on the bubble (including Parks and Rec, which may call 
 a final season--Community needs two more for SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE!). 
  Save Me premieres May 23, the day after the end of May sweeps--they're 
 promoting it, but I say summer burnoff.


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[TV orNotTV] Re: Mens Basketball Tourney Broadcast Changes: TBS Involved Next Year

2013-05-07 Thread M-D November
I'm not really sure I get the logic behind this, unless Turner was just 
able to pony up the extra scratch to warrant the swap.  The national semis 
air on Saturday, which is essentially prime time dead air on CBS...so 
unless they've got another sports event they're going to use to fill the 
time, I don't get it.

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:17:24 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:

 The original deal was for CBS to hold the rights for the regional finals 
 (Elite Eight), Final Four and National Championship through 2015, then 
 split the regional finals with TBS and alternate the national semifinals 
 (Final Four) and national championship between the two networks in 2016.

 For the next two years the two networks will split the regional finals, 
 TBS will carry the national semis, and CBS will carry the title game.


 http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/05/07/tbs-will-now-air-national-semifinals-in-2014-15
  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: MacFarlane, Justin Halpern get sitcom orders at Fox

2013-05-09 Thread M-D November
Let's give Seth Green a little more credit than simply the guy who voices 
Chris on *Family Guy*, shall we?  It's not like he's an unknown.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:35:49 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Back in January:

 Stewie will do *Dads*, where a pair of them move in with their sons, 
 while Mr *S__t My Dad Says* again teams with Patrick Schumacker for a 
 version of his recent book *I Suck At Girls*... these and others at 
 TheWraphttp://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/fox-orders-comedy-seth-macfarlane-pilots-justin-halpern-others-74251
 .


 *Dads* (with the guy who voices Chris on *Family Guy*) and *Surviving Jack
 * (the Halpern adapt, with Chris Meloni) go to series, along with others 
 not mentioned in the original article: separate projects involving Andy 
 Samberg, Jason Ritter, and Keith David.  
 TVLinehttp://tvline.com/2013/05/08/fox-new-series-fall-2013-tv-shows-andy-samberg-brooklyn-99/

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Wrap: 'Idol' Bloodbath?

2013-05-09 Thread M-D November
Connick clearly prefers a more hands-on approach (based on his AI 
appearances last week) - not to mention that he cares about HOW songs are 
performed, not just how many notes a performer can cram into a run, so if 
he WERE to attach himself to any of these shows, I'd think he'd go to *Voice
* before *Idol* (barring a massive format change for AI).  That said, I 
doubt he'd be able to work either into his schedule, especially with an 
album to support.

AI has some serious issues to address, but the biggest issue in my eyes is 
that no one has successfully replaced Simon Cowell as the 'Harsh Voice of 
Reason'. One of the guilty pleasures of the early seasons of Idol was 
knowing that Simon would tell a performer exactly what he (and, in many 
cases, the home viewer) was thinking - none of the current judges are 
willing to go out on that limb. Contrast that the *The Voice*, where the 
coaches aren't afraid to let their performers know if they're disappointed 
in how a song turned out.

On Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:36:34 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 The web site reports that all four current judges, including original 
 Dawg, and co-showrunner Nigel Lythgoe are all getting the ax as Fox 
 programming chief Kevin Reilly wants to stem the audience erosion in what 
 is still a revenue machine for the net, but has seen upstart The Voice 
 steal most of its thunder:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/insider-american-idol-firing-all-four-judges-getting-massive-makeover-90256

 And oh yeah--no more $18M for Mariah Carey or $12M for Nicki Minaj, 
 either.  And if they're intending to young the demos, I wouldn't expect 
 Harry Connick as a judge, either, despite all of his recent publicity for 
 his argument with Dawg last week.


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[TV orNotTV] Re: Xtina and Cee-Lo Coming Back to 'Voice' in Fall

2013-05-14 Thread M-D November
And rightfully so. Cycle 4 of The Voice has had a proverbial spring in 
its step thanks to Usher  Shakira - the judges seem genuinely interested 
in the success of their performers than in self-promotion (which is what 
Xtina and - as much as I may like him - Cee-Lo do best).

Hopefully The Voice will avoid the fate of AI by using some form of 
revolving door coaching panel - now that Shakira  Usher are established, 
maybe they coach the Spring cycles with two new judges, and the original 
recipe 4 coach the Fall cycles, with some kind of week-long playoff in the 
summer...

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:51:02 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Christina Aguilera is a cinch to reclaim her spinning chair in September 
 and Cee-Lo Green and his menagerie are almost certain to return--the Usher 
 and Shakira fans are whining, whining, whining:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/christina-aguilera-returning-voice-17-million-exclusive-91361


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[TV orNotTV] Re: Hader Leaving 'SNL'

2013-05-14 Thread M-D November
After Jason Sudekis, Hader was probably the most reliable straight-man they 
had in the cast, and seemed to fill the Phil Hartman role of 
father/gameshow host/guy in wig more often than not.  That said, something 
about his forehead creeps me right the hell out.

Doesn't he also write for South Park?

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:14:03 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 The last show for the guy who played Stefon and James Carville will be 
 this week, after eight years:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/bill-hader-exiting-saturday-night-live-91401


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[TV orNotTV] Re: TNT, TBS to stream 24/7

2013-05-15 Thread M-D November
Also WABC/7 NYC, but the Watch ABC live streaming will become dependent 
on a cableco/sat provider subscription at the end of June.

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:35:33 PM UTC-4, Diner wrote:


 On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 12:30:17 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote: 

 As part of TV Everywhere... the sports will be included.  
 TVWeekhttp://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2013/05/tnt-and-tbs-to-become-first-na.php
   
 -- BOB

  
  
 WPVI Philadelphia just started streaming 24/7:

 http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2013/05/14/watch-live-local-tv-ipad-well-abc-anyway/
  
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[TV orNotTV] Re: CW Schedule: 'Top Model' Back, 'Nikita' Ending

2013-05-16 Thread M-D November
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:58:28 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 9:00-10:00 PMTHE TOMORROW PEOPLE (New Series)
 An Americanization of the cult British kids SF series--the 90s reboot of 
 that series aired on Nickelodeon here (the show's creator moved to North 
 America since the original 70s run and created You Can't Do That on 
 Television, the flagship Nick show back in the day).  It's about kids with 
 paranormal powers--once again, it's The CW.


As someone with fond memories of the original (from it's airings on Nick 
back in the early 80s), this makes me really freakin' nervous.  Like, 
Inspector SpaceTime USA nervous. 

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[TV orNotTV] Re: 'Warehouse 13' to Get Final Season

2013-05-17 Thread M-D November
Can someone please, PLEASE explain to me why SyFy keeps shooting itself in 
the foot, cancelling it's highest-rated signature series, then 
green-lighting a BS shortened 'final season'?  Who's running the show over 
there - Bonnie Hammer or Kent Brockman?

M-D
That oughta hold the little SOBs.

On Friday, May 17, 2013 1:42:43 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 The SyFy drama series gets a six-ep fifth and final season--and the 
 fanboiz whine in the comments:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/syfy-renews-warehouse-13-fifth-and-final-season-92276


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Half-TV: Why JJ Abrams gave up on Trek

2013-05-19 Thread M-D November
Also, FWIW, I believe Bad Robot is signed up for at least one more Trek 
film, unless Paramount decides there's a conflict of interest with Star 
Wars and somehow ends their partnership on Trek...

On Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:14:40 PM UTC-4, David Bruggeman wrote:

 Is JJ getting the keys to the full kingdom, or is he only handling the 
 next Episodes (though I guess only 7 is a confirmed deal)?  By point of 
 comparison, is he Joss Whedon, or whomever at Marvel is coordinating all 
 their 'Phases' (Avengers ended Phase 1, Iron Man 3 starts Phase 2)

 Let's also remember that JJ can have a wide degree of involvement in his 
 projects.  He's much more hands on in his directed films than in produced 
 films or recent television work.

 Sent from my iPad

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 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Tom Wolper two...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Dave Sikula dsi...@yahoo.comjavascript:
  wrote:
  
 So one guy's plan to bilk suckers out of millions was thwarted by a 
 corporation's desire to bilk suckers out of millions? Color me uninterested.


 Or to put it another way, in case we needed a reminder, TV is just a 
 business. 


 I don't care too much about the multiplatform mediaverse, but I am one of 
 the millions of suckers who is happily bilked out out of $10 to see Star 
 Trek films (well, I think it as $13 to see this in 3D).  I think it is 
 clear that Abrams has created the two most successful film adaptations of a 
 television show ever, and I am bummed that an inability to agree on a 
 marketing and mechanizing strategy is going to deprive us of additional JJ 
 Star Trek versions. It is also irritating that Star Wars is going to get 
 the full JJ treatment instead. I enjoy Star Wars, and even liked the new 
 ones (well, the last of the new ones) well enough. But I am of a generation 
 and a community that sees far (far) more potential for interesting and 
 meaningful story-telling in the Star Trek universe than the Star Wars 
 universe, though I suppose  if Star Wars 7 and beyond are freed from 
 Lucus-control it merely provides an open canvas for JJ to do whatever he 
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Nyc

2013-06-02 Thread M-D November
Skip Midler and Hanks and try to score a ticket for Pippin. If you like 
musical even in the slightest, you won't be disappointed. And Andrea Martin is 
amazing.  (Music Box Theater on 45th) 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Matt Smith leaving Who after Christmas special

2013-06-02 Thread M-D November
Tennant was also the second lead in the recent Fright Night remake, which was 
better than I expected. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Nikki Finke OUT at Deadline

2013-06-03 Thread M-D November
Tomorrow in Deadline: Penske appoints Kitty Sanchez as new Deadline 
editor.

Sorry, I've been watching a LOT of Arrested Development lately, so my 
brain went straight to the concept of Deadlining.

On Monday, June 3, 2013 10:38:36 AM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in...@juno.comjavascript:
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 She'd been sending emails to her superior, Jay Penske, saying I'm going 
 to f**k you, an anonymous exec told TheWrap's Sharon 
 Waxmanhttp://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/shocker-jay-penske-fires-nikki-finke-deadline-hollywood-94906...
  
 Penske denied allegations, wouldn't comment on any departure... her staff 
 is baffled... Penske threatens to sue TheWrap... -- B.


 Just to be clear, I think the allegation here is that Finke has been 
 sending poison emails like I'm going to f*uck you (which itself is an 
 interesting construction - is she literally threatening to have sexual 
 intercourse with these guys?) not to Penske himself, but to other 
 industry-types she blames for giving scoops to her competitors. These 
 emails then got forwarded to Penske (see: he was firing Finke, complaining 
 she had crossed the line one too many times in sending poison-pen emails 
 berating sources over scoops she lost to competitors).

 Best quote so far in this story: Nobody fires Nikki Finke. (from 
 Deadline writer Mike Fleming). 


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Nyc

2013-06-03 Thread M-D November
Melissa - I understand what you mean - Pippin, if played exactly as 
written, can be deadly, which is why most of the better productions take 
liberties with the concept of the Players and the framework of the show.

I went to a theater camp for 8 summers - Pippin was done at least every 
other summer thanks to the need for a little kid (Theo) and the flexibility 
to pack in a huge ensemble. So after 8 years, I'd grown weary of mediocre 
productions; actually, that's an understatement - I straight up hated it.

Then I got assigned to a grad thesis production of Pippin for stage 
management class in college.  The director decided to completely change the 
Players' relationship to the Pippin/Catherine/Theo trio and to the 
audience. He also took some liberties with casting (Charlemagne and Berthe 
were played by the same [male] actor) and retooled the finale so that it 
didn't land with a thud (the original ending literally isn't one), and I 
fell in love with the show and gained a new appreciation for the score 
(especially some of the very clever wordplay in the lyrics).

So when I saw Pippin on Broadway last weekend, I came in with high 
expectations. And I was NOT disappointed.  I could go on and on - this was 
a production without a flaw - and trust me, I've been known to spot the 
tiniest flaws in revivals I hold dear.

To kinda get this back on topic, here's a clip of the cast of Pippin' 
performing on Dave's show last month.  It's hard to get a true feel for the 
production based on this one clip, but it's a start.

iframe width=560 height=315 
src=http://www.youtube.com/embed/kI7SZnwRCJI; frameborder=0 
allowfullscreen/iframe

On Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:41:02 PM UTC-4, MelissaP wrote:

 No no no no! 

 Pippin was the first Broadway musical I saw -- my freshman year of college 
 I 
 visited my relatives in New York and they were so good to me -- took me 
 everywhere I requested -- tour of the UN, West Point, Greenwich Village, 
 and 
 a Broadway musical.  I've seen tons of musicals since then (most recently 
 The Book of Mormon and The Drowsy Chaperone, which I love) and I've got to 
 say that Pippin is just about the least memorable musical I've ever seen. 
 So, skip it! 

 If you've got to see a musical, pick just about anything else. 

 Also, I'll second Letterman.  If you do the morning ticket thingy, you can 
 probably get in. 

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 musical even in the slightest, you won't be disappointed. And Andrea 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: NotTV: Tix to Disney Parks inching toward century mark

2013-06-04 Thread M-D November
I'm not sure why this is so shocking. Six Flags Great Adventure (Jackson, 
NJ) charges $63 for a one-day admission, and I'd argue that there's a lot 
more to do at the Magic Kingdom.  Plus, SFGA charges for front-of-line 
access, where Disney's system is free, but more limited.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:11:09 AM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 Raised a fiver, to $92 for most, $86 for widdle tids, as of Sunday, per 
 the LA 
 Timeshttp://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-disneyland-price-rise-20130602,0,4374914.story
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[TV orNotTV] Re: 'Idol' Bloodbath On--and Not On

2013-06-04 Thread M-D November
IIRC, Clarkson also served as a guest mentor/coach on The Voice. Hey, a 
gig's a gig.


On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:42:59 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Although showrunners Ken Warwick and Nigel Lythgoe, who have been in 
 charge going back to the original UK Pop Idol, are both out, Fox is 
 holding on any more changes until a replacement is named for departing 
 reality chief Mike Darnell--they're also waiting to see if Kelly Clarkson, 
 the first Idol winner, will agree to be a judge (Jennifer Hudson has 
 supposedly already signed for the panel):


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/american-idol-reboot-chaos-top-producers-nigel-lythgoe-ken-warwick-out-exclusive-95021

 Fox may tend to forget that Clarkson did last summer's ABC bomb Duets, 
 but can say that it wasn't her fault (and they'd have something there).  I 
 would also wonder if Lythgoe might get revenge by trying to get his bosses 
 at Idol co-owner 19 Entertainment and dick clark productions to take So 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby back, in a sports role

2013-06-05 Thread M-D November
Whoops:

 *He then rejoined CNN in 2001 and 2002, and from 2003 to 2011 hosted 
 Countdown.* After leaving in a feud with management, he joined Current 
 TV, which he left less than a year later in another feud with management. 



On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 12:28:46 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Highlights of a followup interview with Tim 
 Molloyhttp://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/keith-olbermann-every-one-my-jobs-has-lasted-least-one-month-95436
 :

 Of his resume, I have a truck that I carry it in.

 Of a possible return to ESPN, ...ask them...

 Of his future, ...it would be useless to make any predictions at this 
 point.  -- B.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Gallup Sucks - and Now Admits It

2013-06-07 Thread M-D November
I'll second the lack of a 'NOTV' label - Frank Newport appears often enough 
in the media that it's certainly a media story, if not strictly a TV story.

On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:13:11 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:


 http://www.nationaljournal.com/blogs/hotlineoncall/2013/06/gallup-post-mortem-leads-to-polling-changes-04

 Nobody not named Romney lost bigger last November than the Gallup Poll. 
 They got their ass kicked by the results of the election, which they missed 
 on badly - bigger than any other reputable poll. They have now published 
 the result of a self-study that identifies 4 problems that contributed to 
 their bad performance: 1) how they weighted likely voters, 2) 
 underrepresentation of the East and West coasts in geographical controls, 
 3) underrepresentation of nonwhite voters, and 4) issues in how it 
 contacted landlines that resulted in an “older and more Republican” survey 
 sample.

 The problem of course is that most of these problems were pointed out to 
 them last fall, and they were arrogant in dismissing them. The two biggest 
 problems, which are related, was in their estimate of likely voters and 
 weighting of non-white voters. It may or may not have been coincidence, but 
 this is basically the same problem that most Republican professional 
 political operatives had: Their conventional wisdom was that the 2008 voter 
 turnout was a fluke, a result of one-time voter fatigue with 2 wars and a 
 cratering economy. They could not believe that Black, Hispanic and other 
 first-time voters would turnout in anything like 2008 numbers in 2012. 
 Others (including, but not limited to, Nate-the-Great Silver) cited longer 
 term voting and demographic trends in assuming that ethnic and new-voters 
 would turn out, and they were right. Some of this is just reasonable 
 disagreement over polling methodology, but a significant portion of it is 
 clearly based on assumptions about who real Americans are. Do this date, 
 many Republicans believe that Obama is an illegitimate president (quite 
 aside from any judgement about how effective he has been) because he did 
 not get the support of a majority of *real* (read for the most part white, 
 over 40, non-coastal) Americans. Gallup clearly played 
 into these assumptions with their polling model, perhaps because at some 
 level the organization shared them.

 Some might think this story deserves a No TV label, but I don't think 
 so. As many of the stories about this today have pointed out (and as Silver 
 has been explaining for some time now) the main reason for these kinds of 
 polling inaccuracies is that the incentives in political polling are not 
 really to be accurate, but to get mentioned in, and legitimate, television 
 news pieces. The 2012 presidential election was not a landslide, but it was 
 never really very close, and there was remarkably little movement in the 
 actual numbers from mid-summer through election day. But that does not make 
 for very interesting news stories, so television is incentivized to give 
 more weight and focus to any poll that shows movement or differs from the 
 pack, even though by definition those are just the polls that are most 
 likely to be wrong. The cable networks, which all saw nice rating increases 
 during the election season, are unlikely to care much about how wrong they 
 were, since by now almost nobody who watches them really expects them to be 
 accurate. Thus they have little reason to change. Gallup on the other hand 
 has a business model that goes far beyond simply predicting the 
 presidential horse race every 4 years. Most of what Gallup does to make 
 money is predict things that do not have such a clear criterion of 
 accuracy. When they fall on their ass so glaringly in the presidential 
 prediction game, in undermines customer confidence in the accuracy of the 
 other products that are their bread and butter. There is a chance that 
 Gallup will make changes to be more accurate next time - and if they do, it 
 is likely that we will not see as many news stories about the Gallup poll 
 (or aggregations that are disproportionately influenced by them), and 
 instead will see news stories driven by more interesting and polarizing and 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Laurie Dhue resurfaces...

2013-06-08 Thread M-D November
I expect that SXMPR can't use the NPR updates because the dedicated NPR Now 
channel is using them, and the BBC World channel would be running the BBC 
updates, so that really doesn't leave a lot of non-commercial, non-network 
options - making AP the best fit.

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:53:42 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Not to mention that Sirius XM is using Teh Blaze for the hourly newscasts 
 on the right-wing talk Patriot channel, replacing those Commies at AP 
 Radio.  SXM's other proprietary talk channels, including (surprisingly) SXM 
 Public Radio, continue to use AP Radio News for the hourly newscasts.  (I 
 thought myself that being unable to use the NPR hourly newscasts, the 
 Public Radio channel would use BBC World Service, but I guess that's only 
 for The World--and I guess that they can delay AP one minute and still 
 air the hour openings for the shows that have hour openings ending with 
 but first, this hour's news.  BBC WS newscasts now start at :01 purely to 
 accommodate U.S. public radio stations that aren't NPR members or want to 
 use BBC instead of NPR for hourly news.)

 Mark Jeffries
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 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Bob in Jersey 
 bob.in...@juno.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 ...at Lonesome Rhodes Beck's Blaze 
 TVhttp://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/04/theblaze-announces-exciting-new-hire-who-you-might-recognize/...
  
 which more locals will be able to cringe at now that RCN is adding it...  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Stewart-Oliver Transition

2013-06-10 Thread M-D November
According to the 'Pedia, CC UK is currently a joint venture between 
Paramount UK (so, effectively, one of the sides of Viacom) and BSkyB. So 
there's SOME common ownership between the mothership and the UK channel.

On Monday, June 10, 2013 6:20:11 PM UTC-4, Adam Bowie wrote:

 Yes - it returned last July after something something like 18 months off. 
 It airs at 11pm too. So essentially 19 hours after its East Coast airing. 
 The only problem with it being on the Extra channel is that this isn't 
 available in HD. But I'll take that over not having it (to be fair, you 
 could always pay for an iTunes subscription). It's just a shame that Comedy 
 Central don't pair it with the Colbert Report. But I suspect that even 
 though both channels are called Comedy Central, they've probably got 
 different ownership structures and therefore money might be changing hands. 


 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Mark Jeffries 
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 I had to check, since I thought More4 had dropped it, but TDS is now on 
 in the UK on Comedy Central Extra--as it should be.  (Well, perhaps it 
 should be on the main Comedy Central, but hey.)
  
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 Yes Stewart uses his voices a bit, but I still find The Daily Show an 
 essential watch, and it gets a permanent spot in my DVR's schedule. (To put 
 this in perspective, aside from Stewart, the only late night US talkshow 
 that gets broadcast over here is a cutdown version of Kimmel on CNBC. Well 
 there's Chelsea Lately too on E! But that's it).

 But I too am looking forward to seeing what Oliver brings to it. 

 And it's not as though there isn't a really big juicy subject to get 
 stuck into either. I was kind of disappointed that Stewart left it alone on 
 Thursday's show. But perhaps everything was a bit too new news at that 
 point.
  

 Adam


 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Joe Hass hassg...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 That jives with my take on the article: that the author is complaining 
 about Stewart's style rather than the substance of the program (which goes 
 far beyond whether Stewart does a bad Jersey accent or not.

 I tend to not watch Stewart unless someone/thing brings it to my 
 attention due of time constraints. I'll be actively watching the Oliver 
 episodes, primarily because I'm a huge fan of his, and I have a feeling of 
 tempered optimism towards what he'll bring to the program.


 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:38 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:


 Salon takes some real parting shots at Stewart: 


 http://www.salon.com/2013/06/07/do_we_need_a_break_from_jon_stewart_too/

 I would say about 67% of this is unfounded, and smacks of the kind of 
 lazy television criticism we so often see these days, in which a critic 
 tries to get attention by attacking whatever show is popular. Stewart's 
 show has been been understood as primarily satirizing the media at least 
 since the Bush Administration, so this is really nothing new. My own 
 politics make me sympathetic to the critique that Stewart too often 
 indulges in false equivalency, but again, he has been doing that for a 
 long 
 time. And the last few months have been a satirical puzzle, as the parade 
 of fake and overheated scandals touted by the conservative talking 
 points 
 of the week have not been serious enough to justify becoming the lens 
 through which the executive branch is portrayed, but there has been 
 enough 
 reality to at least some level of concern and inquiry that it would not 
 really due to do nothing but lambast Fox News for bringing it up. In the 
 Williams interview Stewart did hint that if he was going to be around 
 over 
 the next few weeks he might focus in on Holder's criminalization of 
 journalism, which I think is the right instinct.

 The 33% that is justified is I think a product of two things: 1) 
 Stewart has for a while now seemed to be less energized about his job, 
 enough that I have been wondering since before the election if he really 
 still had the fire in the belly to keep doing it much longer; and 2) as 
 he 
 mentioned last night, Stewart has been spending a lot of time in recent 
 months working on his film project, with a lot of staff doing things that 
 he usually does. From the two or three accounts I have read of how TDS 
 typically works, Stewart is something of a taskmaster, and while he may 
 not 
 be a micro-manager exactly, he does seem to engage in rigorous quality 
 control over every aspect of the show. It seems likely that he has not 
 been 
 doing that as much the last 8 weeks or so.

 Stewart said several time this week that he would miss the show (the 
 staff, and the audience) more than the show would miss him. I am not sure 
 if that is true. I love John Oliver (more than apparently the Salon 
 article 
 author does), and I 

[TV orNotTV] Re: Woot! Woot! Woot! 'Swedish Idol' Showrunner Comes to U.S.

2013-06-10 Thread M-D November
Is it this guy?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2004173209/muppet/images/4/41/Swedish-chef.jpg


On Monday, June 10, 2013 3:19:45 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Per Blankens, a Swedish reality veteran who has showrun Swedish Idol for 
 five seasons (and whose credits include working for the company that 
 created the original Minute to Win It format), is the new showrunner of 
 American Idol--the mocking and ABBA references may now begin:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/american-idol-taps-swedish-idol-producer-new-ep-96326


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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-11 Thread M-D November
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't SCG get first dibs/right of first 
refusal at 11:35 per his most recent contract?  (I know Craig has said he 
doesn't WANT 11:35, but technically he's got the right to it.)

On Monday, June 10, 2013 11:33:32 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Joe Hass hassg...@gmail.comjavascript:
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 I over-generalized with the word owns. Your interpretation is correct. 
 My core question is which of these three statements is the most accurate:
 A. There's one contract that covers Dave and WWP, and it runs through 
 2014.
 B. There are two contracts (one for Dave, one for WWP) that run 
 concurrently (through 2014).
 C. There are two contracts (one for Dave, one for WWP) but they do not 
 run concurrently (i.e., the contract with WWP runs later than Dave's).


 Here is my stab at an answer; I don't have any one source to cite, but the 
 NYT article on the most recent contract extension (
 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DEFDC1E3FF937A35757C0A9649D8B63)
  
 and the wikipedia article on Late Show have some clues. I stand ready to be 
 corrected by my betters.

 I think your option A is the closest to being correct. It seems to me that 
 CBS contracts with WWP for a show. Dave works for WWP, and presumably has a 
 contract with them. Dave also happens to be the owner of WWP. This is what 
 makes most casual reports of his deal with CBS ambiguous - when the NYT 
 says that CBS has reached a deal with Dave to extend to 2014, it is not 
 clear if that deal is with Dave, owner of WWP, or Dave, performer on the 
 Late Show. But I think it is technically with the former.

 If that is correct, then a further question would be, does the contract 
 with CBS and WWP require that Dave be the host of the show provided to CBS 
 by WWP? I think the answer to this question must be yes.

 So, if your real question is, can Dave decide to leave Late Show prior to 
 the expiration of the WWP contract, and then insert a different host into 
 Late Night and still have that fulfill the WWP contract? I think the answer 
 is probably no.

 I imagine that if Dave the performer wanted to stop hosting LN prior to 
 the end of the WWP contract with CBS, then Dave the owner of WWP would 
 somehow owe CBS money, and would also no longer have a deal to produce an 
 11:35 show for them. But I also presume that the relationship between CBS 
 and Dave is such that if Dave really wanted to stop they would come to am 
 amicable agreement - but one which would not necessarily give Dave, the 
 owner of WWP, any right to name the host of any new 11:35 show.

 I am also assuming that, whenever Dave retires, by mutual agreement CBS 
 and WWP may want to continue the Late Night franchise, in which case they 
 might make a new deal to continue the show post-Dave the performer, and 
 Dave the owner of WWP would then no doubt have quite a bit of say in who 
 would be the second host of Late Night.
  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon'

2013-06-11 Thread M-D November
Out of curiosity, does anyone remember the naming convention Conan used for 
those magical 8 months - was it 'with' Conan or 'starring' Conan?

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:34:56 PM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

 They need to call it The Jimmy Fallon Show and let him sink or swim on his 
 own name instead of desperately trying to cling to the legacy of hosts long 
 gone. But they won't because Fallon doesn't have enough of a name draw, 
 and -- as we learned from Conan -- NBC isn't going to be patient and give 
 him time to build an audience.  

 On Tuesday, June 11, 2013, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Yep, not with.  Just like Carson.  Oh yeah, one of Fallon Late 
 Night's writers from the beginning, Amy Ozols, is the showrunner.  Cue 
 Leno apologists' comments on the link in 3..2...:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/late-night-vet-amy-ozols-produce-fallons-tonight-show-96591
  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-11 Thread M-D November
Oliver is an interesting option for the post-Dave Late Show, but it does 
beg the question whether a late-night blocked helmed by f'rrners.  I mean, 
I'm a huge fan of both Oliver and Ferguson, but...to use a hugely worn-out 
cliche, will it play in Peoria? (Or, I suppose, really, Omaha or Topeka?) 
Granted, it gives CBS some options with the marketing (Our late night 
lineup is classier because it has an accent!), but will it turn off 
whatever passes as a mainstream viewer at 11:35?

Another interesting aspect of the mystery behind Dave's successor - there 
isn't an established host in the wings who could bring existing schtick 
with them.  Dave brought almost all of his existing segments with him when 
he left NBC (albeit some segments - and one notable character - needed new 
titles due to NBC copyrights), Leno's been milking the same desk segments 
he's used since he was Carson's standby (maybe it's time to give 
Headlines a rest, Jay?), Conan brought material from his run on Late 
Night to Tonight and his TBS show, and Fallon will likely bring material 
with him when he slides up an hour.  We know that even if Ferguson decides 
to exercise his Prince of Wales Clause (which, BTW, I would expect him to 
do dressed in his Prince Charles costume), he couldn't possibly bring Sid 
the Cussing Bunny, Secretariat and Geoff the Gay Robot Skeleton to 11:35; 
of course, like Conan, he could develop new bits, but he could run into the 
same problem Conan initially faced - his audience wanted to see the 
material they knew and loved, the 11:35 audience wanted the old reliable, 
and lots of people changed the channel.  Conan was starting to pick up 
steam when the re-Lenoing took place, but NBC just didn't have the faith in 
him to give him the time he needed to find his voice as Tonight host.

That brings us back to the Late Show - assuming Ferguson doesn't want 
11:35, there isn't another experienced late night host with established 
material ready to sit in Dave's chair.  Oliver brings experience in the 
medium through his time on TDS, but even if he establishes himself with 
some signature pieces this summer, they won't work in the variety show 
format.  (Remember Dennis Miller's late night run?  Not the HBO show - his 
syndicated late night show. The 'Weekend Update' style only goes so far in 
that format.)  Any new host is going to need time to establish themselves, 
and that means the network needs to commit to a substantial pickup and get 
out of the way - and THAT works best with WWP running the show.

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:30:24 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Joe Hass hassg...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Here I disagree, because the brand is Dave and not The Late Show as 
 evidenced by the fact that its been almost 20 years now and everyone still 
 slips occasionally and calls it Late Night. The Tonight Show was a 
 brand. The unknown goes back to the first part of this: if the idea is the 
 next person is Dave's Successor, then CBS wants WWP to be involved. If 
 it's a new show, then I would think CBS would be more likely to own the 
 property.


 Well, that is a good point. Obviously, for me Late Night/Show is not a 
 particularly important brand, I care about Dave. I don't watch NBC's 
 post-Dave Late Night's because I really like the Late Night show. I watched 
 it (occasionally) because I liked Conan, and hardly at all now because I 
 don't really care for Fallon. If NPH took over Late Show I would 
 be unlikely to watch more than casually, while if Oliver did (I just threw 
 that out because I thought he did such a nice job last night, not because I 
 have any reason to think it is likely) then I would remain a loyal viewer. 
 Dave, and not Late Show, is the brand.

 OTOH, NBC seems to think there is a lot of value in the name The Tonight 
 Show - but in my case I watched it when it was hosted by Carson (though to 
 be honest I had already dropped down to occasional viewing in the last year 
 or so before he switched into goodbye mode) and did not watch it when a guy 
 I did not particularly like took over. In the end the host is always going 
 to be the key, but I suspect that there are enough viewers for whom The 
 Late Show might be familiar and attractive to make it a better platform 
 from which to launch a new late night CBS host than some completely new 
 name.
  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-12 Thread M-D November
I know that, of course, but will Joe Sixpack? (Oh man, I'm just burning 
through the average guy/flyover state metaphors in this thread.)

On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:50:24 AM UTC-4, David Bruggeman wrote:

 Both are American citizens, unlike the git on CNN at 9 (and maybe even Mr. 
 Varney on FBC?).

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 *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' 
 Revenge)
  
 Oliver is an interesting option for the post-Dave Late Show, but it does 
 beg the question whether a late-night blocked helmed by f'rrners.  I mean, 
 I'm a huge fan of both Oliver and Ferguson, but...to use a hugely worn-out 
 cliche, will it play in Peoria? (Or, I suppose, really, Omaha or Topeka?) 
 Granted, it gives CBS some options with the marketing (Our late night 
 lineup is classier because it has an accent!), but will it turn off 
 whatever passes as a mainstream viewer at 11:35?


   

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[TV orNotTV] Re: The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-12 Thread M-D November
I always got the impression that Carson owned his show outright, and that 
Late Night was a co-production (Carson/NBC), with WWP added into the mix 
around '91 or so.  NBC had to have some claim to ownership of Dave's Late 
Night, otherwise the whole IP issue following his move to CBS (Viewer 
Mail==CBS Mailbag, Larry 'Bud' Melman==Calvert DeForest, etc.) would 
have been a non-issue.

Also, IIRC, it was after Carson retired and Jay took over that an NBC 
Studios trademark started appearing on Tonight and Late Night (along with 
the Big Dog  Broadway Video vanity cards, of course), so NBC was asserting 
greater control over those properties, in an effort to reinforce their lock 
on the 'franchise'.

By contrast, CBS has no franchise.  They have Dave and Craig.  If WWP 
continues to produce CBS late night, I would expect the naming conventions 
to stick for continuity reasons, but also because I'm sure Dave sees value 
in building a franchise in the spirit (if not the shadow) of the original 
Tonight Show legacy.

On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:38:56 AM UTC-4, JW wrote:

  Correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't SCG get first dibs/right of 
 first 
  refusal at 11:35 per his most recent contract? (I know Craig has said he 
  doesn't WANT 11:35, but technically he's got the right to it.) 

 My recollection is that's in case Dave is suddenly unable to do The 
 Late Show, not the orderly ascension we're discussing. 

 Carson Productions produced The Tonight Show and Late Night right up 
 until Johnny retired. After that, Worldwide Pants (which had become a 
 co-producer) got Late Night, while NBC and Big Dog always produced 
 Jay's Tonight Show. I can't imagine The Late Show (and LLS) post-Dave 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: ESPN 3D to close

2013-06-12 Thread M-D November


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Celebrity Apprentice 'All-Stars 2 sighting

2013-06-13 Thread M-D November
Agreed.  Seems more likely they're filming a commercial, but I didn't think 
Fairway was a big enough chain to warrant even this level of celebrity 
endorsement.

M-D
...for Wegmans

On Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:24:07 PM UTC-4, MelissaP wrote:

 Celebrity Apprentice films in October and November, so I'm not sure what 
 that was.

 On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mark Jeffries 
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 Further proof that Trump has lost it.  The weakest season in the history 
 of the franchise and they're doing All-Stars AGAIN?

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 Went to the Fairway supermarket in West Paterson (or if you prefer, its 
 new name Woodland Park) New Jersey last Sunday and saw Penn Gillette, 
 comedienne Judy Gold Florence Henderson and others filming a segment for 
 Celebrity Apprentice All-Stars II (or as I call it, the 2nd time in a row I 
 will not watch it) in the coffeee bean section. Didn't stay long enough to 
 see the context and got annoyed at the AD who said - during a break, mind 
 you -- you can go through now, but don't look to your right! I, of course, 
 did look to my right while extending a finger of friendship to the AD, 
 thanking him for delaying my shopping errand and granting me permission to 
 continue my non-celebrity task while wishing him a nice day (pic attached). 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN 3D to close

2013-06-13 Thread M-D November
I don't remember many 3D gags on Birdman (Although there was the occasional 
foray into live action), but there were plenty of depth perception jokes 
involving...

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080528155728/harveybirdman/images/0/04/Phil_Ken_Sebben.jpg

M-D
HA HA!


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 Futurama had some good ones, but the best one eyed jokes were in the 
 Harvey Birdman series.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN 3D to close

2013-06-14 Thread M-D November
YES! Monster Chiller Horror Theater is my point of reference whenever I 
explain to someone why I hate 3D! (Although I usually point to Dr. 
Tongue's 3D House of Stewardesses.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SJY6w0HD50

On Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:53:04 PM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

 Those were the one-eyed jokes I was referring to. The best 3D jokes, hands 
 down, went to SCTV. Nobody else comes close. 

 Would you like some more... pancakes?

 http://youtu.be/1R3G_beQccA

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 I don't remember many 3D gags on Birdman (Although there was the 
 occasional foray into live action), but there were plenty of depth 
 perception jokes involving...


 http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080528155728/harveybirdman/images/0/04/Phil_Ken_Sebben.jpg

 M-D
 HA HA!


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 Futurama had some good ones, but the best one eyed jokes were in the 
 Harvey Birdman series.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Celebrity Apprentice 'All-Stars 2 sighting

2013-06-14 Thread M-D November
True, but didn't D'Ag have a catchy jingle and animation back in the 80s?

(Also, there are neighborhoods in Manhattan where D'Ag and Gristedes have a 
virtual duopoly. So why bother advertising?)

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 M-D November, to Mark J:

 Agreed.  Seems more likely they're filming a commercial, but I didn't 
 think Fairway was a big enough chain to warrant even this level of 
 celebrity endorsement.



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Re: [TV orNotTV] FOX News mole making the rounds to pimp his book, Atheist in the FOX News Hole

2013-06-17 Thread M-D November
WNYW/5 in NYC runs an episode of Bang followed by a double-pump of 
30Rock.
WTXF/29 in Philly runs TMZ and (former O'Reilly haunt) Inside Edition.

M-D
I've got two for this one:
1) Keep f**king that chicken; or
2) We'll DO IT LIVE! F**K!

On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:17:00 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 The story has been that if Fox ever went back into late-night, their talk 
 show would air at 11:35 and the Shep Smith newscast would air at 11 (and 
 Ailes has supposedly promised Shep that he would get the network 
 newscast--I already noticed that he anchors any coverage on Fox broadcast, 
 including the State of the Union).  Unfortunately, the affiliates would 
 probably howl loudly, especially if they were running Big Bang Theory 
 and/or 2.5 Men at 11 or 11:30 (seems to me most Fox OOs are airing 
 repeats of TMZ and Dish Nation in those time slots).

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 I checked out some other media reports. It turns out Shep Smith, Megyn 
 Kelly and Geraldo Rivera (Geraldo Rivera?) are held in high esteem by FOX 
 staffers for their news cred.


 My guess is that Rivera is looked at for his much older work.

 That said, I have always had a soft spot for both Mr Smith and Ms Kelly 
 when it comes to acknowledging the non-FNC bubble. I think there's a 
 general agreement on the panel here that if Fox did decide for whatever 
 reason to create a nightly news broadcast, Mr Smith would not only be the 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Colbert returns Wednesday

2013-06-19 Thread M-D November
Colbert turned the cold open to tonight's TCR into a tribute to his mother. 
He was out of 'character', and nearly broke down a couple of times. Very 
moving.

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:15:46 PM UTC-5, Jon Delfin wrote:

 Another rerun tonight, according to the e-mail from the show's press 
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[TV orNotTV] 1966 NBC sneak previews ad

2013-06-22 Thread M-D November
The Hero?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Question for Brits about The Fall

2013-07-05 Thread M-D November
IIRC, Torchwood started life on BBC3, migrated to BBC2 for the second series, 
and then over to BBC1 for Children of Earth and Miracle Day.  Presumably the 
differing standards (and proximity to the watershed) govern what they could get 
away with in each series, but remember that it was Children of Earth that gave 
us John Barrowman's bare bottom for several seconds, not series 1. So Starz 
wouldn't have had anything to do with toning things down from series 1 to 
series 2.

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[TV orNotTV] re: today's breaking news

2013-07-06 Thread M-D November
My fiancé gets fixated on breaking news, so I had CNN on for about 2.5 hours 
this evening. My takeaway:
- CNN Anchors don't understand that using the phrase we don't want to 
speculate, but... doesn't immediately give you license to speculate wildly
- As usual, the 24hr news channels spend more time vamping than reporting. At 
one point, I'd swear they had the international anchor literally reading specs 
on the B777 from the Boeing website (or Wikipedia)
- Wolf Blitzer continues to prove that he's the biggest idiot in news (as 
opposed to news, which is where I'd classify the Fox friends). On multiple 
occasions he asked their aviation expert about passengers getting sucked out 
of the exposed tail section of the plane - which a child could tell you isn't 
possible since the cabin would be pressurized at sea level for landing; 
explosive decompression (and the accompanying suck) would only be possible at 
altitude, when the cabin and the outside air are at different pressures. 
- Blitzer part deux: in the 4:00 press conference, the SF fire chief mentioned 
that 60 passengers were unaccounted for. Blitzer harped on this number for an 
hour. At approx 5pm PDT, he did a phone interview with the SF office of 
emergency management, who said that at that hour, only 4 were unaccounted for. 
Instead of asking the obvious question - what has changed in the previous hour? 
- he basically accused the rep from SFOEM of lying about (or not being honest 
about) the unaccounted for number, and basically tried to pin the rep down on 
the hour-old information instead of expanding on the more updated number. After 
another 15 mn, they threw to the update presser at SFO, where the FD chief 
updated the unaccounted for number to 1 - instead of reporting the updated 
figure, Blitzer continued to harp on the 60 figure, and how the number provided 
by OEM seemed more plausible now - even though both figures were now 
officially out of date. It was at this point that the fiancé relented to a 
channel change.  (It's worth nothing that MSNBC immediately picked up the 1 
unaccounted figure while CNN continued to report old data.)

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[TV orNotTV] Twitterverse Goes Crazy Over 'Sharknado'

2013-07-12 Thread M-D November
Are we not counting The Moment as a reality comp?

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Play Aaron Sorkin Bingo!

2013-07-15 Thread M-D November
I was tempted by this, except that Ryan seems to be a general hater of all 
things Sorkin (while her opinions on how Sorkin writes female characters 
isn't without some merit, she seems to miss the plot on many of her other 
complaints about his writing), so I prefer not to give her the clickthru if 
I can avoid it.

I'll withhold my observations on Newsroom s2e1 until everyone has had a 
chance to catch up.

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:33:56 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 It's a drinking game without the intoxication while you watch the second 
 season of The Newsroom premiere tonight (or the entire first season on 
 Comcast/Xfinity VOD until tomorrow, even if you aren't an HBO subscriber), 
 thanks to the HuffPo's Mo Ryan:


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Re: [TV orNotTV] KTVU Officially Becomes Worst TV Station In US

2013-07-15 Thread M-D November
On Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:00:25 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:

 Twenty years ago when I worked as a PR intern at the NBA, one of the first 
 things they told us was to never answer a call from a reporter and always 
 forward it to a staff member, regardless of the topic. The one time I 
 screwed up (over something relatively innocuous like a statistical 
 request), I was raked over the coals to the point where *I thought I was 
 going to be fired and sent back to Detroit*. A couple hours later, I was 
 called into Brian McIntyre's office (the head of PR) for what I assumed 
 would be my axing. Fortunately, he basically explained the policy and why 
 they come down so hard.



Bolding mine - I saw this and all I could think of was Kentucky Fried Movie.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MufcSdWehaA/ThfJ5iNr5YI/AZM/DItYPSgfb-c/s1600/Kentucky5.jpg

*Take him to DETROIT.*

M-D
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[TV orNotTV] Re: American Dad to TBS in Fall 2014

2013-07-17 Thread M-D November
I don't think we saw this move coming, did we?  IIRC from the upfronts, we 
knew the The Cleveland Show was pretty much done, but given MacFarlane's 
long-term relationship with FOX (and recent mainstream success with Ted), 
this is nothing less than a shock. Is FOX slowly detaching themselves from 
MacFarlane?

On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:10:16 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:

 A 15-episode order, with reruns to air on Adult Swim.


 http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2013/07/long-running-fox-series-moving.php
  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Giving Tim McCarver His Due

2013-07-17 Thread M-D November
It may just be the Yankee fan in me, but I really liked the Mariano's 
moment at the bottom of the 8th. For one, I thought running Enter 
Sandman* over the PA was a nice touch; doubly so since it's CitiField, and 
walk-on music for a visiting player is almost unheard of - trust me, this 
didn't happen during the Subway Series - so points to the Mets and/or MLB. 
I don't know if the players organically came to the decision to stay off 
the field during Mariano's walk-on or if that came down from upstairs, but 
I thought it was a very classy move and a great show of respect for 
arguably the best closer to ever play the game.  

My only complaint is that it felt like maybe the moment ran a little long, 
but that could have been because Mariano walked on directly after Neil 
Diamond's performance of Sweet Caroline (which, honestly, should have 
been attached to the 7th Inning Stretch).

*Yes, Enter Sandman is Mariano's normal walk-on music. And hearing Tim 
McCarver trying to analyze the chorus is something I'll never unhear.

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:24:14 AM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 I take backseat to no one in my disdain for Tim McCarver's broadcasting 
 since he has been at Fox (in an earlier incarnation he was actually pretty 
 good). And I am no fan of his partner young Joe B., though I do not hate 
 him nearly as much. But I did enjoy Buck's tribute to McCarver at the end 
 of tonight's All-Star broadcast (a show that really tried much too hard for 
 a signature moment with Rivera). It looked like they really did surprise 
 him on air with that announcement that they were putting his scorecard in 
 the Hall of Fame. And the only think that makes McCarver tolerable these 
 days is seeing him through the eyes of Joe Buck - that is the kid inside 
 Joe Buck who loved baseball and the Cardinals, and was born the year 
 McCarver left the Cards the first time, but must have been around 4 or 5 
 the year he came back, and McCarver must be some kind of link for young 
 Buck to his father.

 Lots of other things I could say that still bug the hell out of me about 
 Fox's All Star game coverage, and baseball coverage in general, but that 
 was a nice moment.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] KTVU Officially Becomes Worst TV Station In US

2013-07-17 Thread M-D November
Wait - the survivors are suing Boeing for...what, exactly? Good 
workmanship? It's thanks to Boeing that all but a handful of passengers 
survived the crash!

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:17:30 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Steve Rhodes, in part:

  Matthew Keyes says the intern has been fired  


 http://thedesk.matthewkeys.net/2013/07/16/exclusive-ntsb-intern-at-center-of-ktvu-gaffe-identified/

  KTVU still hasn't explained how anyone could have read those names and 
 not known they were fake.


 NY DN: Asiana is dropping its 
 suithttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/asiana-airlines-drops-lawsuit-tv-station-article-1.1400927,
  
 but is being themselves sued, along with Boeing, by survivors of the wreck.

 -- B.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] KTVU Officially Becomes Worst TV Station In US

2013-07-17 Thread M-D November
OK, I've been working longer hours than is probably advisable lately, and 
admittedly I haven't stayed up to date on this story, so maybe I missed 
something, but...did the NTSB release the official cause of the crash? The 
last (credible) hypothesis I heard about had an inexperienced pilot (almost 
no practical time in the 777, according to multiple reports) on the stick 
for landing and two senior pilots effectively doing nothing (presumably one 
thought the other was monitoring the inexperienced pilot and vice versa).

As far as shoddy workmanship...the 777 has one of the best safety records 
in the industry, and it's not really Boeing's responsibility to maintain 
the aircraft once it's sold; if Asiana didn't perform the proper 
maintenance on the aircraft that went down, that's on the airline.  

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:37:36 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 M-D November, to moi:

 Wait - the survivors are suing Boeing for...what, exactly? Good 
 workmanship? It's thanks to Boeing that all but a handful of passengers 
 survived the crash!


 (Had to go wake up Mother J... she even falls asleep during her soap.)

 More like shoddy workmanship... faulty auto-throttle, bad seatbelts...  -- 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: New host, but pretty much same old show

2013-07-17 Thread M-D November
You say that like it's a bad thing...

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:17:32 PM UTC-4, David Bruggeman wrote:

 I checked in with Whose Line Is It Anyway last night.  The set was 
 slightly spruced up, but looked like it had been kept in mothballs since 
 the last ABC episode.

 Game play is pretty much the same, though I noted two 'new' games in the 
 two episodes last night.  Ryan, Wayne and Colin are regulars, with a 
 comedian to be named later in the fourth chair.  There is a celebrity guest 
 in each episode to play the usual audience participation games.

 Aisha Tyler does a fine job, probably better able to keep the show on 
 track as she's not as chummy with the fellows as Drew.

 Bottom line, it won't feel like a day has passed since the last time you 
 watched it.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: NY Daily News: The Wheel Of Olbermann could land at...

2013-07-17 Thread M-D November
Let's hope the return to the Worldwide Leader doesn't also mean the return 
of the 'stache.

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:59:03 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 One of Bristol U's bigwigs, Norby Williamson, was once Olby's first 
 producer at *SportsCenter*... he'll have a significant role in the new 
 show, which he relates to their Front Row 
 blog...http://frontrow.espn.go.com/2013/07/keith-olbermanns-first-sportscenter-producer-norby-williamson-reflects-on-then-and-now/(link)
  replete with vintage pix... even one from 
 *Sportsnight!*  -- B.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Giving Tim McCarver His Due

2013-07-18 Thread M-D November
Yeah, but you know who won't get rid of GBA?  The Yankees.

Because Steinbrenner.

Seriously - The Boss installed the ritualistic playing of the Kate Smith 
recording at the 7IS after the 9/11 attacks, and they're still doing it 
today.  It doesn't matter that it's heavy handed.  It doesn't matter that 
the crowd isn't into it (hell, the crowd is more into Grounds Crew YMCA 
than GBA), or that the PA time could be better spent.  The Boss demanded it 
be played, and by G-d, as long as someone with Steinbrenner DNA owns the 
team, it'll get played.

On Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:37:16 AM UTC-4, Bill Partsch wrote:

 Refreshing to read others acknowledge the ritual singing of an Irving 
 Berlin has long since passed its sell-by date. Ideally, MLB will give it 
 till season's end and then quietly put the kibosh on it. Otherwise, if 
 we're going to be subjected to random pop songs, how about some good ones? 
 I nominate the New Pornographers' Sing Me Spanish Techno, mid-6th inning. 

 --Bill

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Meredith Talk Show on NBC-Owned Stations

2013-07-19 Thread M-D November
I suspect Kabletown is going to only accept a late-night slot for Viera as 
a last resort.

I'm also curious to know how Steve Harvey's show has been doing, 
ratings-wise.  I know he's paired with Ellen in many markets, but usually 
as the lead-in.  Was Harvey always in a late-night timeslot in Pittsburgh, 
or did the station move him there (presumably due to poor performance in 
the earlier daypart)?

On Friday, July 19, 2013 7:45:04 AM UTC-4, JW wrote:

 Right now, Steve Harvey airs after Nightline in Pittsburgh, so there's 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Nate Silver Taking His Talents To Bristol

2013-07-22 Thread M-D November
I'm not overly surprised about the Olbermann connection - wasn't he a 
frequent guest (or, at the very least, an oft-quoted source) on Countdown?

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:49:00 AM UTC-4, PGage wrote:


 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/business/media/nate-silver-blogger-for-new-york-times-is-to-join-espn-staff.html?=_r=6_r=0

 I am not surprised that Nate is leaving the Grey Lady, or that he would 
 prefer ESPN to NBC (his talents are kind of wasted in between election 
 cycles, and he does love the statistical analysis of sports). I am a little 
 surprised about the Olbermann connection, even though in many ways, even 
 just baseball, it is a natural.


 Nate Silver... is parting ways with The New York Times and moving his 
 FiveThirtyEight franchise to ESPN... according to ESPN employees with 
 direct knowledge of his plans.

 At ESPN, Mr. Silver is expected to have a wide-ranging portfolio. Along 
 with his writing and number-crunching, he will most likely be a regular 
 contributor to “Olbermann,” the late-night ESPN2 talk show hosted by Keith 
 Olbermann that will have its debut at the end of August. In political 
 years, he will also have a role at ABC News, which is owned by Disney.
  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Starz Does the Pre-Premiere Renewal Bit for 'Sails'

2013-07-26 Thread M-D November
You call out JLC but totally gloss over Anthony Head?  ...the hell?

On Friday, July 26, 2013 1:30:20 PM UTC-7, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 The premium channel seems to be so approving of the Michael Bay-produced 
 pirate drama Black Sails that they've given the show a season 2 renewal, 
 despite it not premiering until January--they've also picked up the BBC 
 John Goodman/Jackie Bisset-starring mini Dancing on the Edge, about 
 Edward VII and Duke Ellington and his Orchestra (fictionalized and with 
 assumed names by writer Stephen Poliakoff), for airing in October:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/tca-starz-renews-black-sails-picks-dancing-edge-miniseries-106271

 Also in the Dancing on the Edge:  Chiwetel Ejiofor as the bandleader, 
 Anthony Head and (attention, Whoites!) Jenna-Louise Coleman.


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[TV orNotTV] Re: NBC, You're Not Our 'Fashion Star'

2013-07-29 Thread M-D November
I always felt like Fashion Star could have worked as a summer series (or on 
a niche network like Bravo), but should never have been part of the primary 
lineup.

On Saturday, July 27, 2013 11:25:17 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Looks like HM being replaced by Express for Season 2  (along with being 
 moved to the Friday Dead Zone--Macy's and Saks stayed on) may've made the 
 fashion competition and alternative revenue source (thanks to selling the 
 contestants' clothes at the chains) from former chief programmer Ben 
 Silverman not even appealing enough to switch to Style Network, so it's 
 gone:

 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/tca-nbc-cancels-fashion-star-106421


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[TV orNotTV] Re: No spoilers, sweetie

2013-07-29 Thread M-D November
This works for me - I'll actually be getting married on 11/23, and if the 
ep had aired in primetime on BBCA as is usually the case, I wouldn't have 
gotten to see it until the next day.  Now there's a chance I can watch it 
live.

On Sunday, July 28, 2013 2:19:30 PM UTC-4, Brad Beam wrote:

 For “Doctor Who”’s 50th anniversary, the BBC and its global broadcast 
 partners have reached an agreement to air the November 23 special 
 simultaneously – or November 24, from about Pakistan eastward.


 http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-07-26/doctor-who-50th-anniversary-special-to-be-broadcast-around-the-world-simultaneously

  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Greenblatt: The Welcome Mat's Out for Leno

2013-07-29 Thread M-D November
+1 on NBCSN. Problem is he'd have been the ideal choice to play the 
Clarkson role in a US version of TopGear, and that ship has LONG since 
sailed.

On Sunday, July 28, 2013 3:19:53 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 NBC Sports Network.  That could work.  (Bravo, uh-huh.  He's not exactly 
 Kathy Griffin.)

 Mark Jeffries
 Saints Spotlight Editor
 spotl...@gmail.com javascript:


 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 1:26 PM, David Bruggeman 
 bru...@yahoo.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 If there were an obvious home for a motoring program in the Kabletown 
 universe, this 'problem' would be eminently solvable.

 As for the quarterly arrangements, I'm not sure it worked in the case of 
 Larry King, though it may have wrt Ted Koppel.  Of course, what it means 
 for these agreements to work likely differs between these individuals.

 David

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 spotl...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 The NBC programming chief said that he hoped that Big Jaw would continue 
 to be a presence on the network like Bob Hope, who continued to appear in 
 specials until he could barely stand--and the Drudgie Leno asskissers 
 continue to suck up in the comments and refuse to accept that Leno's done:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/tca-nbcs-bob-greenblatt-hopes-jay-leno-will-stick-around-nbc-la-bob-hope-106416


 Greenblat saying this only makes even a little bit of sense if it is a 
 pro forma attempt to be graceful and polite to Leno (and more importantly, 
 his many fans that NBC hopes to retain) on his way out - that is, as an 
 offer that is expected to be rejected.  It makes zero sense as an actual 
 proposal. The article notes that Hope had not been a host of a regular late 
 night show, and that when Leno took over the Tonight Show his predecessor 
 disappeared, but does not explicitly draw the relevant conclusion. Carson 
 has the grace and class to leave the stage clear for Leno to make his own 
 way; one wonders what might have happened if Johnny was doing a 10:00 
 primetime show the first 6 months of Leno's Tonight Show. If NBC, and Leno, 
 are capable of learning anything from past experience, they will realize 
 that they need to give Fallon a Leno-free environment and 12 to 18 months 
 to find his own way with the show.

 If Kabletown really wants to still be in business with Leno, they should 
 give him some kind of quarterly or, if necessary, monthly special on Bravo 
 or something. Fallon could have him as a very special guest once a year; 
 hell, in 5 years they could even have Leno come back and host a series of 
 roasts for Howie Mandel and Pat Sajak and the like. But they must keep Leno 
 off of NBÇ for at least 12 months, and never give him any kind of a regular 
 show again. And if Leno had any class he wouldn't accept it if offered.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: TCA: CW renews Whose Line, switches debuts

2013-07-29 Thread M-D November
This pleases me.  Hopefully Whose Line remains a summer series - it would 
get lost on the regular schedule (and, if it stayed on Tuesdays, would get 
its ass handed to it by the NCISeses).

On Monday, July 29, 2013 5:11:55 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 No date on the WL second-series start... *Vampire Diaries* offshoot *The 
 Originals* opens after a moved-up *Diaries* s.p. Oct 3rd, with the second 
 segment in its regular slot 9pm east the 8th... the Mary, Queen of Scots 
 effort *Reign* bows Oct 17th, pushed a week back...


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/whose-line-it-anyway-renewed-cw-106686

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Re: [TV orNotTV] And Number 12 is...

2013-08-05 Thread M-D November
I kept thinking to myself At least they're trying harder than ESPN did 
with 'The Decision'..., but ultimately it was the same thing - a 30min 
special that could have been boiled down to 5min.  Although I appreciate 
the fact that the Beeb got perspective from past Doctors, companions and 
fans (Stephen Hawking!), I found myself wishing the uberfans brought up to 
the live stage were a bit more polished as talking heads and/or that they'd 
just used past companions (YAY Bernard Cribbins - but where was Karen 
Gillan? Or Billie Piper?  Or Catherine Tate? Hell, they could have gotten 
Arthur Darvill via satellite from his Once dressing room in NYC...)  And 
as for Zoe Ball...I feel like they really needed a Whovian more than they 
needed a host - I know he's from the wrong side of the pond, but I'd have 
preferred someone like Chris Hardwick.

M-D
Is it me, or has Collin Baker NOT aged well?

On Monday, August 5, 2013 10:32:53 AM UTC-4, David Bruggeman wrote:

 I think focus was pulled from Ms. Ball by the uberfan who was too nervous 
 to get his facts right.

 I don't know, it was a half-hour special with arguably no surprise in it.  
 Perhaps a thankless task for any presenter.  Not the same kind of heavy 
 lifting as the fellow hosting the Shark Week talk show is having trouble 
 with, but YMMV.

 David


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 From a British perspective, I think Christopher Eccleston would have 
 previously been the biggest name when he got the part. A serious actor 
 who was a well-known and well-regarded face. I'm not sure I'd agree about 
 Colin Baker. While I was only 14 when he got the part, I'm not sure that 
 even today I could really tell you a great deal else he'd been in. Whereas 
 Peter Davison, his predecessor, had been in All Creatures Great and Small - 
 a massively successful BBC1 series at the time.


 I'd agree with that. David Tennant was becoming quite famous when he got 
 the part, he'd just appeared in Casanova which was quite a big deal. I 
 think Capaldi is a bit like Eccleston in that he's a respected actor but 
 isn't perhaps a household name, my mother recognised him but wouldn't 
 (until now) be able to put a name to him. Davison was certainly the most 
 famous when he got the part.

 Very excited by this, anyway, Capaldi is a wonderful actor and I'd be 
 fascinated to see how the show changes. I know Eccleston, Tennant and Smith 
 had their own styles but they've all been relatively young, certainly since 
 the reboot we've never had anyone like Capaldi in charge.

 What I'm most interested in, though, is what the world made of Zoe Ball! 

  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Chris Hanson Not Renwed

2013-08-05 Thread M-D November
In my head, his release went down much like one of his TCAP specials...

INT: 30ROCK. DAY. SCENE SHOT FROM HIDDEN CAMERAS ON WALLS  IN DROP CEILING
*Hanson enters NBC News executive office holding party balloons, bag w/ 6pk 
of wine coolers*

Phil Griffin: Hey, Chris. Meeting someone here?
Hanson: Yeah, I was told to come up for a party...
Griffin: Oh, there's a party. Why don't you have a seat?
Hanson: Wait...this feels familiar...
Griffin: Just have a seat, Chris.

On Sunday, August 4, 2013 3:20:47 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 I guess Dateline has stopped running the awful To Catch a Predator 
 pieces anyway, but Hanson will no longer be with NBC News (
 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/nbc-news-chris-hansen-part-598852).
  
 He is pursuing other hosting opportunities. The several reports I read 
 about this note, but do not explicitly link his nonrenewal, to tabloid 
 stories Hanson was having an extra-marital affair (
 http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/07/16/chris-hansen-ex-lover-opens-up-about-her-affair-with-to-catch-predator-star/
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Writers urge Feds to roll back indecency rules for primetime shows

2013-08-06 Thread M-D November
Colbert touched on this at the end of last night's show - aided by Dr. 
House himself, Hugh Laurie.

http://on.cc.com/14fGEcZ

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 8:40:24 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 The continuing troublemaking from groups such as Parents' Television 
 Council now draws the ire of the Writers Guild of America/West, who join 
 NBCU in calling for the Commish to step up revamping of regulations they 
 see as encouraging the griping and having a chilling effect on content...


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/wgaw-urges-fcc-phase-out-primetime-indecency-rules-108426

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Re: [TV orNotTV] And Number 12 is...

2013-08-06 Thread M-D November
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:17:45 PM UTC-4, Adam Bowie wrote:

 For an example of what I mean compare and contrast the beginning of, say, 
 The Daily Show, where an audience has been hyped up and are definitely 
 giving Jon Stewart (or John Oliver) a standing ovation as the show starts, 
 with perhaps our most popular chat show at the moment, Graham Norton. At 
 the end of that show, he has to practically tell the audience to stand up 
 to clap along to his end credit music. 


Having attended a TDS taping a couple of years back, I have to say I was 
pleasantly surprised to see that the warm-up comedian doesn't really do a 
ton to hype the audience.  The taping is almost always proceeded by Jon's 
QA with the audience, and aside from pumping a little Springsteen into the 
studio before the VTR rolls, there's little else.  (There's no HERE COME 
CRAIG! for example.)

I don't know about Colbert's studio audience, but I would expect that 
they're encouraged to be rowdy to feed Colbert's character.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert

2013-08-07 Thread M-D November
I was wondering the same thing, but given the amount of setup required for 
that montage - past guests, visits to Charlie Rose/Fallon/AGT, the 
Rockettes in their rehearsal studio, Jon Stewart via Skype, HENRY 
KISSINGER! - I had assumed it was always the setup for Daft Punk's 'live' 
performance. Although...wouldn't they have actually performed Get Lucky 
in studio?  That'd be kinda redundant.

I actually thought Robin Thicke was an adequate substitute (if, indeed, he 
WAS a last-minute substitute), and Blurred Lines is actually a really 
catchy tune.  That being said, I think I liked this performance better:
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2013/08/jimmy-fallon-robin-thicke-the-roots-sing-blurred-lines-w-classroom-instruments/

As an aside, I always enjoy when Colbert has some fun with the other 
NYC-based hosts, my favorite being the three-way rumble with Jon Stewart  
Conan during the last writer's strike.  Sadly, the complete video is lost 
to the ages, since NBC has purged any record of Conan from their website.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:47:10 PM UTC-4, Jon Delfin wrote:

 Except.

 While I enjoy a Colbert evisceration as much as anyone, I began to have my 
 doubts as the subsequent musical video montage unfolded, one which was 
 clearly created with much planning over the past month or more. So ... they 
 were planning that all along, and just changed the setup?




 On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Joe Hass hassg...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 So Daft Punk was supposed to appear on Colbert last night when their 
 Viacom brethren got wind of it. And Stephen handed it about as well as 
 Stephen possibly could.


 http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/428371/august-06-2013/stephest-colbchella--013---special-guest-stephen-colbert-

 I always considered Colbert's epic takedown on Jon Kyl from two years ago 
 to be the gold medal winner of Colbert rants, followed by the Wheat Thins 
 Sponsortunity. I'm now contemplating where this ranks (and I'm only talking 
 about the segment itself, not the segment that immediately followed, which 
 is excellent in its own right).
  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert

2013-08-07 Thread M-D November
No, the real question is When did original Stig clone himself and start an 
electronica band?

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:28:35 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Bruggeman 
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 The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I 
 think it reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of 
 last night's performance well in advance.  Heck, last year Colbert did 
 Colbchella '012 from the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and 
 onboard footage.


 Right - I think the question here though is, was the advance work in 
 support of Daft Punk (I think it was, once I figured out that DP was real), 
 or, as Jon suspects, were they always planning on having someone different 
 on in the end?
  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Is this anybody we know?

2013-08-08 Thread M-D November
Damn. If he were wearing a Kansas City Chiefs jersey, I'd offer that he was 
Big Jim Slade.

On Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:33:53 AM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mAJAWyOOeXM/UgO5_7kxUdI/AGM/FUkImndwhxs/s1600/is-he-anybody.jpg
 He's easily 7-foot tall, and busts up stuff in his house while touting NFL 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Big Jaw Wraps It Up Feb. 6

2013-08-12 Thread M-D November
OK, but I'll ask the follow-up question: WHY is he upset?  Was he really 
that big of a fan of Leno's? Or does moving Fallon to the earlier timeslot 
just disrupt his current viewing habits enough to be inconvenient?

On Monday, August 12, 2013 10:53:33 PM UTC-4, MelissaP wrote:

 I should note that I’m no fan of Jay’s and the only time I watch any part 
 of the show is on Mondays (Headlines).  But – I was talking with my concert 
 buddy the other day.  He’s younger than I am, and I think he’s pretty 
 representative of most of those who watch late nite TV.  He is one of the 
 millions of people out there who are unhappy that Jay’s going to be 
 replaced by Fallon, just as they were unhappy when Jay was replaced by 
 Conan.  But I do think that Fallon has a better shot at success than Conan.

  

  

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 Exactly if FOX Affiliates weren't willing to take Conan when he was a free 
 agent, then I don't see them willing to take Big Jaw in. And remember Conan 
 when he was a free agent was much more hotter than Big Jaw will be after 
 February.

 On Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:41:11 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:

 Meanwhile, you may've noticed in the comments section that there are 
 actually people calling for broadcast Fox to pick Leno up--never mind that 
 the affiliates are more than happy to be running their sitcom reruns (and 
 TMZ and DIsh Nation repeats in some markets) that they've paid a lot of 
 money for (especially if those shows are Big Bang Theory, 2.5 Men or 
 Family Guy) at 11 and 11:30 and don't want Fox back in the weeknight 
 late-night biz.  If Big Jaw has such a hankering to be back in late-night 
 after September 2014, he can pray that Arsenio bombs out.


 Mark Jeffries
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 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Greg Diener skyki...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I hear he's going after Megyn Kelly's timeslot on FOX News that should be 
 more than enough time for him to steal that slot.


 On Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:48:57 AM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

 Any word on when Leno's new 10pm Mon-Fri show is going to debut? 

 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Mark Jeffries spotl...@gmail.com wrote: 
  NBC says the last Tonight Show with Jay Leno will be Feb. 6--the 
 Olympics 
  are Feb. 7-23 and Fallon takes over sometime after: 
  
  
 http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/jay-lenos-last-tonight-show-to-air-feb-6-1200576464/
  
  
  Interesting to note that his staff and crew will be paid through the end 
 of 
  September 2014, when Leno's contract with NBC expires. 
  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Checking-In With Leno

2013-08-14 Thread M-D November
Well, that's the Jay Leno show in a nutshell - it's effectively encased in 
amber.

I'd be shocked if Leno was able to do his high-five BS on the night Obama 
appeared - I'd think Secret Service would be keeping the audience at a 
distance that night.

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:47:05 PM UTC-4, stannc wrote:

 I didn't see his entrance on the night that Obama was on, but I watched 
 the night that Mark Cuban was on and I didn't see any discernable 
 difference between now and 15+ years ago.

 -Stan

 On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:26:38 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:11 PM, stannc sta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, hey, I resemble that remark. I'm no Leno fan, but as a fan of TV 
 and the Tonight Show I had to see the show live when I was in LA for the 
 first time in the late 90s. I received the Leno High Five and I was no 
 worshipper. :)

 I actually wasn't aware of the thing until a page came over and clued me 
 in before the show. I had a standby ticket and ended up front row in a seat 
 that was taped off for someone who didn't show.


 You were no worshipper, but you were playing one on TV.

 Do you recall if Leno kind of ran out into the crowd then, or did he take 
 the kind of slow approach that I saw last night? 
  


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Re: [TV orNotTV] As I was saying: ESPNOlbermann

2013-08-27 Thread M-D November
Only repeated once *on The Deuce*.  But I spotted two consecutive airings 
(at 1am and 2am EDT) on ESPNNews.

Not being an avid watcher of ESPN or sports in general, a few comments:

   - When MSNBC moved Countdown from NJ to 30Rock, I always felt like the 
   flags in the window behind KO were too distracting for a generally serious 
   program.  Well, ESPN decided to double-down on the distraction, 
   because...Times Square, HELLO!. The lights, the LED billboards, and the 
   ever-present Disney advertisement visible over KO's shoulder when he turns 
   to face a guest.  Sure, it's more appropriate for sports than news, but I 
   miss the Murrow-style setup from the end of days on Current.
   - Not surprised to see the return of the old segments - Time Marches 
   On and World's Worst - although I also wouldn't have objected to resting 
   them for a little while.  Part of the problem with World's Worst is that, 
   much like the news-y Special Comments, when you do it every night the sting 
   is lessened.
   - Didn't mind the march down memory lane on night one, especially given 
   KO's past with the higher-ups in Bristol, but hopefully it gets dialed 
   back significantly as he settles in.  And I don't mind This Date in KO 
   History, as long as it's kept short.
   - Kept waiting for him to cross the line re: Chris Christie and the Rex 
   Ryan story, but he stuck to his 'no politics' rule.


My biggest gripe was the ...as I was saying... that opened the show (and 
this thread).  I'd have preferred to see KO make a clean break from 
Countdown and start fresh at the Worldwide Leader, even if the format of 
the show is effectively the same as what he was doing at MSNBC/Current. 
 ...as I was saying... only serves to remind the audience about his 
problems with previous employers, and almost makes him the bigger story.

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:04:40 AM UTC-4, PGage wrote:


 I liked it. 

 I still think he needs that other guy at the table with him to really 
 shine, because it takes the edge off of his narcissistic megalomania. But 
 even so the show works. He is smart and funny and fearless - and back in 
 the sports context the stakes are low enough that it is possible to just 
 enjoy and let Keith be Keith. Hopefully the sports setting will finally let 
 some people understand that the Worst Person segment is not to be taken 
 literally (Jim Crane is not really the worst person in the world). I could 
 do with it being somewhat less self-referential, which maybe will decrease 
 as time goes by, but they did note they were going to have a This Night in 
 Keith ESPN History segment every night.

 The first segment was especially strong - using the silly tempest stirred 
 up by Manish Mehta of the NY Daily News (about Rex Ryan's decision to play 
 Mark Sanchez in the 4th quarter of a recent preseason game as a fireable 
 offense) to illustrate how incompetent and inane most sports journalism 
 (and by implication, non-sports journalism) has become. This was all the 
 more interesting because KO's old partner Dan Patrick had Mehta on his show 
 this morning as a call in guest, and I thought at the time that DP gave him 
 the easy treatment, and seemed to be taking his side against Ryan. I wonder 
 what DP will say about KO in the morning?

 The piece was similar to a recent bit Deadspin ran about how ESPN used Ron 
 Jaworski's claim that SF 49er QB Colin Kaepernick could become one of the 
 greatest QBs in NFL history to create and hype a fake story over a couple 
 of day period. Perhaps not surprisingly, KO's first guest, Jason Whitlock, 
 noted that sports journalism needed more outlets like Deadspin, to watch 
 the watchers. Whitlock also got off the best line of the show, noting that 
 like prison as described on The Wire - You only do two days at ESPN, the 
 day you go in and the day you come out (like KO, Whitlock has just returned 
 to ESPN after famously leaving under controversial circumstances).

 From what I can tell, ESPNOlbermann is only repeated once - and that 
 appears to be consecutively (at 8 and then 9 pm), both on the Deuce. That 
 is a bummer for me, as I am most likely to be able to watch something like 
 this at the 11:00 pm hour. I would much prefer Olbermann to the current 
 SportsCenter, but I suppose the point is they do not want to have him 
 competing with SportsCenter. I will try to record it, but once the new tv 
 season begins I suspect I often will not have a free socket.

 Sooner or later Olbermann will call Skip Bayless an idiot, or John Skipper 
 a coward, and the implosion will begin. But until then I think ESPN just 
 gave us back one of the better scheduled sports hours on television.
  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] now that CBS and Time Warner have settled

2013-09-02 Thread M-D November
I only have TV and internet, and I was able to get the X1 DVR. There's no 
requirement for a triple play that I'm aware of.

And Mark - I'd LOVE to try the voice search, but my X1 box doesn't appear 
in either the Xfinity Remote or the dedicated X1 Remote apps.  Comcast is, 
I understand, 'working on it'.

On Monday, September 2, 2013 10:19:00 PM UTC-4, MelissaP wrote:

 Got it.

  

 BTW I recently discovered that despite the heavy advertising (featuring 
 Ms. Kaling or Mr. Cheadle), the new X1 DVR is available only to those 
 Comcast customers who bundle.  Since I don’t have Comcast phone service, I 
 don’t qualify.

  

  

  

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 And you didn't even think of searching for Mindy Kaling cute or Mindy 
 Kaling sexy?

  

 (Those of you in Comcast markets will get this.)


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 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:31 PM, M-D November 
 mdnov...@gmail.comjavascript: 
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 Xfinity X1 DVR listings confirm a new episode:

  

 The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson

 [NEW] S10 | Ep1

 Airdate: 9/3/13

 Angela Kinsey; sports commentator David Feherty

 On Monday, September 2, 2013 8:23:27 PM UTC-4, Tom Wolper wrote:

 Craig on Twitter today:

 “@jdaddy9455: @CraigyFerg How are you spending labor day?” Going back to 
 work. - immigrant. New shows start tonight. #HappyLaborDay

  

 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:58 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Craig was performing six shows in Denver this weekend, likely working out 
 new club material.  I doubt he's rushing back to the studio to sub a new 
 episode already in the can.  That way he can still do the joke about being 
 the immigrant working on Labor Day.

  

 David

  
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 ... is there any chance that tonight's Late Late Show is *not* a 
 pre-record?

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Please trim your posts

2013-09-03 Thread M-D November
Google Groups adds that signature automatically, and only to e-mail/digest 
versions. We don't ever see it when using Google's interface, except if 
someone has responded via e-mail.

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 Of course, that means that lots of posts were repeated as well, and the 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Two daytime fixtures sell sitcom to Fox

2013-09-05 Thread M-D November
To clarify: Fox the studio or FOX the network?

On Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:25:45 AM UTC-5, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 Ellen DeGeneres, who has sitcom experience, and Greg Mathis, a TV judge, 
 offered a script of a comedy inspired by Mathis' life.


 http://www.thewrap.com/fox-acquires-ellen-degeneres-and-judge-mathis-comedy/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Nerdist comes through

2013-09-07 Thread M-D November
If I had to guess, I'd say Fox put a restriction on online distribution. I 
don't believe Adult Swim was able to make Futurama available in any VOD format 
while it held the rights. 

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Sharon Osbourne had a fling with Jay Leno

2013-09-09 Thread M-D November
The thought of that pairing just made me throw up in my own mouth a little 
bit.

On Monday, September 9, 2013 9:53:18 PM UTC-4, Steve Timko wrote:


 http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/sharon-osbournes-secret-i-had-a-fling-with-jay-leno-in-my-20s-201399

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Earlier With Carson Daily

2013-09-13 Thread M-D November
As much as I hate to say it, Daly wasn't awful when he was filling in on 
Today earlier this summer.  He's got a good morning show personality, and 
his experience from TRL lends itself to live TV and playing traffic cop 
with all of those moving parts.  It's not the worst idea NBC's ever had.

On Friday, September 13, 2013 1:05:03 AM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

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 Seacrest didn't work out? 


 The Today Show addition was actually a question on MSQ tonight; I guess 
 the format does not allow the contestants to make snarky comments while 
 giving their answers, but I was rooting for one of them to work one in 
 (Seacrest was not one of the options). 
  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The New Ironside

2013-09-13 Thread M-D November
The Millers is the CBS sitcom with Will Arnett.
We're the Millers is the R-rated comedy with Jennifer Aniston, Jason 
Sudekis and Ed Helms from this past summer.

On Friday, September 13, 2013 12:58:37 PM UTC-4, David Risner wrote:

 It's also on Hulu along with Trophy Wife (ok), Welcome to the Family 
 (Good), Back in the Game (My Fav, but Maggie Lawson my be biasing me), and 
 We're The Millers (I'm not sure about this one). I haven't watched Ironside 
 yet. I've been scared to based upon the critics' comments about it.


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 Pilot a free download on the iTunes store

 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id688396860?i=694423064


 Is it worth the cost?

 It is also available for free on cable On Demand, at least on Comcast. I 
 will probably try to watch this, but I think I will just wait till it airs 
 and record it. I still have 10 unwatched Hawaii Five-0's on my DVR from 
 last season, so I am behind in my retro-tv-remake watching. If they remake 
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[TV orNotTV] Not TV: What's behind Science Friday's partnership with PRI?

2013-09-14 Thread M-D November
I was always under the impression that Science Friday was married to Talk of 
the Nation...I don't think I realized it had fully spun-off.

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[TV orNotTV] Not TV: What's behind Science Friday's partnership with PRI?

2013-09-14 Thread M-D November
Well, this might explain it...I didn't realize the TOTN was cancelled...

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC Loads Up B'way Stars for Live 'Sound of Music'

2013-09-16 Thread M-D November
YACS.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Who Belongs in the VIP Emmy Obits?

2013-09-21 Thread M-D November
I was thinking one of the Marshalls or Neil Simon.  Or, if you wanted to invoke 
Quincy, Glen A Larson. 

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Two Style series resurface on E!

2013-09-25 Thread M-D November
Meanwhile, the desiccating corpse of G4 - now fresh out of episodes of 
American Ninja Warrior to rerun endlessly - now features Airwolf 
reruns!  AIRWOLF.

M-D
*FRIGGING AIRWOLF?!?*

On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 8:34:42 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 *Tia  Tamera*, with the ex-*Sister, Sister* actresses, and *Giuliana  
 Bill*, with the Rancics, air repeats starting Oct 15th... new segments 
 TBA...


 http://www.thewrap.com/style-network-tia-tamera-giuliana-bill-esquire-network-e

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