Re: [Ubnt_users] AC Gen2 5Ghz Feedhorns

[Rory Conaway]

You need to do it for 500 and 620’s also.  We stopped using them for the most 
part and went to AC-Lites and 3rd party dishes because of that.  Too expensive 
to repair.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of 
Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 12:49 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AC Gen2 5Ghz Feedhorns

I concur

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>> On Behalf 
Of James Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:42 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AC Gen2 5Ghz Feedhorns

Yes for 2.4 Ghz feedhorns!   :)

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 1:53 PM Tim Reichhart 
mailto:t...@nwohiobb.com> wrote:
You guys also need to do it for 2ac feed horns man

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tony Rassavong via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:36 PM
To: ja...@ridgecomms.com
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AC Gen2 5Ghz Feedhorns

Thanks for the email guys, I know this was discussed on our forum and thats why 
we made them available through our store to help out for now. We'll continue to 
explore other ways to help out.

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-AC/Purchase-Feedhorn-Only/td-p/2032474/page/10

Thanks,
Tony

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:15 AM James Wilson 
mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>> wrote:
We'd also like feedhorns and other replacement parts!

And it would be nice if we could get them from distributors.

And they need to be in stock!

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 12:28 PM Tony Rassavong via Ubnt_users 
mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:
Hi Alex,

Ill give you a call to discuss and would love to hear your constructive 
feedback. To help with this now, we are making it available through our store 
if you prefer to purchase feedhorn alone 
(https://store.ubnt.com/collections/wireless/products/powerbeam-5ac-gen-2-feed-horn)
 and it is in stock. It isn't considered a finished product so it is different 
to sell/stock through the channel properly.

Thanks,
Tony

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 9:38 AM alex phillips 
mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

I wanted to relay on to the folks at UBNT that the ability to purchase Feed 
horns only is a great deal for WISP's.   We use them for repairs as well as 
upgrades.

My only issue is that this item is not available in larger volumes.   I have 
been dealing with my distributor to purchase some large volume so we can 
upgrade our entire network and he is telling me UBNT will not work with him on 
this purchase.

I would like to get this resolved as soon as possible.Maybe someone from 
UBNT can give me a ring and I can talk about this with you.


Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net
540-908-3993

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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

[Rory Conaway]

It’s not too bad.  We have one up, might put up a second one.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of 
RickG
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:58 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey!

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart 
mailto:cstew...@scsbroadband.com>> wrote:
What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in foliage and at 
least 100' over treetops on a tower.  We have a bit of hill which makes the 
difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard press to deploy in flat 
land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and 
height.

Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions will 
always matter between those WISPs in various conditions.

If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have customers that 
can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out.  That is enough time to 
recover investment and make something.

I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not even a 
shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding which costs 
wind load and weight issue for commercial leases.

We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market where 
possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, we 
still have a few Alvarians collecting money!

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart 
mailto:cstew...@scsbroadband.com>> wrote:
You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in foliage 
areas.

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions 
mailto:r...@thpi.net>> wrote:

I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life experience 
input.

Do they cut through heavy pine trees?
What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees?
Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput?

I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile away from 
the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 to 100 feet tall. 
Any suggestions?

Thank you in advance for your reply.
Ralf
Gulf Wireless Inc.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airrouter

[Rory Conaway]

We are testing the Aircubes.  Two of the smaller units cost the same as an 
Airrouter HP and coverage should be the same.  I can’t get over the idea that 
Mimosa and Ubiquiti don’t think external antennas are important but that’s just 
me.  We kept some 3-4dBi big antennas in stock for upgrading the AirRouter HPs 
for more range and they work.  Have to be careful with some crappy units on the 
market though.  We found some garbage ones.

Either way, we are moving to the AirCubes.  The G2’s from Mimosa work fine with 
relaying so we expect the same thing from the AirCubes.  We have been testing 
them and other than few features missing that we don’t need yet, we have them 
working with UNMS so we are moving forward with them when the Airrouters run 
out.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of 
RickG
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 5:11 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airrouter

Are those user-friendly via smart-phone? I've had 80 year old women who admit 
they know nothing set up their google wifi.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Shawn C. Peppers 
> wrote:
Hap Lite AC
:: // Shawn Peppers
:: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:31 PM, RickG 
> wrote:
Google WiFi Mesh points (3-pack).

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:15 AM, Clay Stewart 
> wrote:
Since AirRouters are gone, and the new cubes are too poor in coverage and you 
need an APP on cell phone to program them, for those who have been using them, 
what are you going to for replacements that are as good as the HP model 
AirRouter, and has that price point?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem

[Rory Conaway]

6.13 or 6.14.  Might be a legacy upgrade thing.

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Roy
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem



Actually they can.  It depends on what OS you used when you activated DFS.  I 
have a number of M5s running in that range


On 1/25/2018 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>
> Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
> 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer 
> worked on any UNII frequency.  I had to move the radio down to a clogged 
> non-UNII spectrum channel?
>
> Forbes Mercy
> Washington Broadband, Inc.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem

[Rory Conaway]

The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem

Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer worked 
on any UNII frequency.  I had to move the radio down to a clogged non-UNII 
spectrum channel?

Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband, Inc.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

[Rory Conaway]

We make our customers turn off their 5GHz radios on our network just for this 
reason.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Aaron McKillip
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 11:06 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

Dual Band router?
Aaron McKillip
Hamilton Telecommunications
402-694-6655

On Dec 6, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Jan Van Kort 
<j.vank...@oregononline.net<mailto:j.vank...@oregononline.net>> wrote:

It's just the one customer.  Neighbors to each side are just fine.  Neighbors 
are about 1/4 mile away on same hillside in quasi-rural area.  There are no 
other WISPs in area, no airFiber that I've found.  AirView shows nothing worth 
getting excited about when problem isn't happening, when problem is happening 
Airview is not accessible as unit is not responding.  Rarely has problem 
occurred while I'm on the premises and goes away before I can zero in on it.   
I'm suspecting large pumps, old transformers, bad neutral?  How to prove and 
stop wasting time and money on one customer?  Pulling hair time!

On 2017-12-06 09:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Spectrum Analyzer and AirView both show real noise.

You said you changed bands at the customer site, are there other customers on 
those APs that are having issues or is it this one guy?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Phil Curnutt 
<pcurn...@gmail.com<mailto:pcurn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have on two occasions tried to cross the path of an AirFiber5 and had the 
signal completely blocked.  Like Rory said they don't show up on Site Surveys 
or noise figures, but are very apparent in AirView.

Phil

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Could still be noise.  Canopy and AFx equipment won't show up in the noise 
figures.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Jan-OOLLC
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

Have a client that is difficult to login to at times, service for them seems to 
quit.  Has good signal strength.  Have changed the radio to different models 
and frequencies and connected to different towers. It's like some kind of 
barrier at random times is erected between house and tower.  Site survey and 
spectrum analyzer never show anything remotely definitive as to possible cause 
or source of trouble.  Could problem be noisy electrical transformers or well 
pumps and what low-cost equipment  would I need to find it?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

[Rory Conaway]

Could still be noise.  Canopy and AFx equipment won't show up in the noise 
figures.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jan-OOLLC
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

Have a client that is difficult to login to at times, service for them seems to 
quit.  Has good signal strength.  Have changed the radio to different models 
and frequencies and connected to different towers. It's like some kind of 
barrier at random times is erected between house and tower.  Site survey and 
spectrum analyzer never show anything remotely definitive as to possible cause 
or source of trouble.  Could problem be noisy electrical transformers or well 
pumps and what low-cost equipment  would I need to find it?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 60 Gigs ???

[Rory Conaway]

We have 2 links running with 2 more going in as fast as we can get to them.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 7:54 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 60 Gigs ???

My network depended on an IgniteNet link for about six months and I don't 
regret it one bit.


-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Eric Williams SDWISP" >
To: "ubnt users" >
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 4:19:03 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] 60 Gigs ???



Anyone know of Ubiquiti getting in to the 60 Gig space ?  This Ignite Net 
ML-60-LW-DO-USlooks nice ? any one played with Ignite Net and or short rang 60 
Gigs ?


Eric Williams W7EMW
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Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[Rory Conaway]

Understood.  With the Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you considered that 
option?

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of David Jones
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the locked 
firmware at and after 6.0.6

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Why are you still running 6.0.4?

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my system to 
find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to 5.6.15 for them to 
be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at the time.



Troy Gibson

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 Original message 
From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com<mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>>
Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

The beta works better.

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt 
<pcurn...@gmail.com<mailto:pcurn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities.  
Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac Clients.  I 
found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I was able to add 
the device manually using v 2.0.2.

Phil

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort 
<j.vank...@oregononline.net<mailto:j.vank...@oregononline.net>> wrote:

I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying to make it 
work over 2 years ago.  Where do i go to get a current version of air control 
so I can try it again?  I'm wandering around the ubnt.com<http://ubnt.com> 
website and can't find it.  Does the current version have the 6.04 issue?

On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote:
Hi Guys,

This is most likely due to this change in discovery in 6.0.4.  We're adding CGN 
address space in 6.0.7, so moving forward, you will only be able to discover 
from RFC1918 and RFC6598 address. IP range scanning should still work.


- Fix: Limit discovery response to queries from private subnets or 
multicast/broadcast

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC 
<t...@byhalia.net<mailto:t...@byhalia.net>> wrote:
I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM.  I had some 
being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but show in devices 
not found column of discovery.  TCP scan only showed prism radios too.

I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered.  I had to downgrade AP and CPE 
for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the missing radios!!


Troy





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 Original message 
From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
Date: 8/31/17 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any suggestions 
around this?

Thought I'd post it here too -

Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago.  About nine months ago I 
attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically corrupted my 
database and would not even start the server service.  Last night late I 
started over again from scratch.  Ran into the 6.0.4 problem as one of my 
network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually changed the ip 
addresses and put them all on 6.0.4


A different segment is still running 5.6.3.  I was planning to move them all to 
6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password.



Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that particular 
network segment but did not find any 6.0.4



Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from 6.0.4 to 
5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately.



I don't want to do this to 300 devices.



Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within our 
network.



I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the server is in 
public ip space).


I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be rep

Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[Rory Conaway]

Why are you still running 6.0.4?

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my system to 
find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to 5.6.15 for them to 
be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at the time.



Troy Gibson

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 Original message 
From: RickG >
Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

The beta works better.

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt 
> wrote:
AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities.  
Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac Clients.  I 
found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I was able to add 
the device manually using v 2.0.2.

Phil

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort 
> wrote:

I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying to make it 
work over 2 years ago.  Where do i go to get a current version of air control 
so I can try it again?  I'm wandering around the ubnt.com 
website and can't find it.  Does the current version have the 6.04 issue?

On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote:
Hi Guys,

This is most likely due to this change in discovery in 6.0.4.  We're adding CGN 
address space in 6.0.7, so moving forward, you will only be able to discover 
from RFC1918 and RFC6598 address. IP range scanning should still work.


- Fix: Limit discovery response to queries from private subnets or 
multicast/broadcast

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC 
> wrote:
I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM.  I had some 
being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but show in devices 
not found column of discovery.  TCP scan only showed prism radios too.

I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered.  I had to downgrade AP and CPE 
for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the missing radios!!


Troy





Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message 
From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
>
Date: 8/31/17 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any suggestions 
around this?

Thought I'd post it here too -

Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago.  About nine months ago I 
attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically corrupted my 
database and would not even start the server service.  Last night late I 
started over again from scratch.  Ran into the 6.0.4 problem as one of my 
network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually changed the ip 
addresses and put them all on 6.0.4


A different segment is still running 5.6.3.  I was planning to move them all to 
6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password.



Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that particular 
network segment but did not find any 6.0.4



Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from 6.0.4 to 
5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately.



I don't want to do this to 300 devices.



Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within our 
network.



I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the server is in 
public ip space).


I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be reporting 
to the wrong IP.



I can manually add the device but have not found a way to do that in bulk.



I don't know if it is easier for me to upgrade to something higher than 6.0.4 
on all of my devices and use discovery or to manually add 300+ devices.  I am 
hoping for another option.



Bueller?  Bueller?



Thanks

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes

[Rory Conaway]

What does airview show?

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mitch
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:44 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group; Adair Winter
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes


Adair

have 3 foot clear  fresnel (20 feet middle) and still the AF5X wont work and the

100km AF5 and 5Us wont either so I am at a loss

40 towers and back hauls these just will not function so am not

very confident in spending more on AF11x at this point.

just scared lol



On 10/21/2017 6:10 PM, Adair Winter wrote:
We have about 40 af5x links and all of them perform as they should. You have 
two small of antennas for a shot that long. Need at least 3' antennas and good 
fresnel clearance. With proper alignment and tuning,  they will kick just about 
any  backhauls ass.

On Oct 21, 2017 5:27 PM, "Mitch" 
> wrote:

I am kinda nervous to spend more on the AF line even for the AF11x

After three types of AF have failed and costs so far are over 6000.00 in dishes

R5C, AFx, AF units, and AF unit shipping to return replacements that failed (2)

with in a few days ???

Kinda tired of spending and not working you know?

Mitch

On 10/21/2017 5:18 PM, Phil Curnutt wrote:
Had a 12 mile AF5 link that was very marginal because of distance, plus it was 
a bitch to align.  Replaced with AF11FX on 35dB dishes and it works like a 
champ.  Dropped them right into the AF5 mount and they linked right up and only 
need a tweak in alignment.  I'm guessing about a 5-7 mile link is about max for 
an AF5 to get 8x modulation.  Also, have an AF5X link at 8 miles with a 34db at 
the Slave end and a 30dB at the Master end and it to works great.

Phil

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Mitch 
> wrote:

We aligned them no side lobe here

used alignment scope and borrowed a laser aligner from a

Verizon friend just to make sure

Loved that laser one but 12,000 is a little more than I can spend right now LOL

On 10/21/2017 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I had a 2 and 3 foot dish working with Rockets for years.  Tried swapping to 
af5x and couldn't even associate!

After so much hassle back and forth etc we discovered the dishes were 
misaligned.  Rockets did 60 megs where af5x wouldn't associate.

Af5x works a LOT better aligned than Rockets side lobed.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 21, 2017 4:52 PM, "Mitch" 
> wrote:

Plain old UBNT 2 foot dishes have had for years

On 10/21/2017 3:49 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote:
What antenna do you have with the AC?  That really is the difference.
Thanks,
Ben

On Oct 21, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Mitch 
> wrote:

Yet Support says it's "Thermal Ducting" Hmm

Thank Mike I finally came to the same conclusion . atleast for the 19 mile 
link

Now just got to figure out why the 9 mile link sucks as well

On 10/21/2017 3:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
The AF5 only has 23 dBi antenna. There's no way it'll work well at that 
distance.

Also, you're comparing 23 dBi antennas to 29 - 31 dBi antennas. That 12 - 16 dB 
difference is most of what you're missing when comparing to the other link.


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From: "Mitch" 
To: "Mike Hammett" 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:05:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes

We have installed a 22.6 mile link in Missouri that works very well the AF5

tried a AF5U at it never even linked up

This link has been up and running for almost 3 years

On 10/21/2017 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
The AF5 just isn't meant for distance. Look at 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

[Rory Conaway]

We have been upgrading as fast as reasonably possible to 8.4 and 6.1 with all 
other firmwares mixed in.  All our radios are in simple bridge or routed mode 
with no VLANs, PPPoe, or any other things that many of you use.  In this 
environment, we have seen zero issues with all the firmwares from 6.04 to 6.1 
and 8.2 to 8.4.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:27 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

Ditto

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Scott Lambert 
> wrote:
We have about 1500 units on 6.0.4 and a bunch of 8.3.2. No complaints. It will 
probably be late spring before we risk 6.1.x/8.4.x due to the possibility of 
weather making it difficult to react to any problems which may pop up with the 
new software.

The new software may be perfect. We just don't have a couple of months to test 
it.


On October 17, 2017 7:55:54 PM MDT, Mark Stephenson 
> wrote:
So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest?

I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on 
Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with 
different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused by 
different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. I 
understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the alternative 
has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible versions, varied 
user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a 
uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version differences and 
everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade 
because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very 
good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some 
regularity, but cautiously. :)

Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs?

Thanks,
Mark

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" >
Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from 
updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my 
customers experience with other software bugs.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson 
> wrote:
Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features 
like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that 
older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New 
versions often include security fixes now or eventually.

Mark

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" >
Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

Why fix what isn't broken?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" 
> wrote:
I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid
M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I
used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I
stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I
can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not
worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want
a version that works well.

Thanks much!
Mark Stephenson
Go Bee Wireless


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Power Beam M5 question

[Rory Conaway]

I’ve upgraded most of ours, I haven’t seen any issues.  I didn’t test or look 
for any improvements though.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Chris Soiles
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:57 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Power Beam M5 question

How is 6.0.7 performing?
Haven't seen anything
Sent from iPhone 6S Plus


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On Sep 16, 2017, at 11:44 AM, tyson > wrote:
The nanobridge will almost for sure be an xm board and highest firmware I've 
been running on xm is 5.6.15 I think is what it is.  It's the one that also has 
the Verizon 400mhz fix as an option as well.  On xw I've been running 6.04.  I 
know they have 6.07 out but I haven't even looked into newer than 6.04 yet.  
But regardless of their firmware they should link upl as long as you set so to 
a channel and width that the station is able to connect to.  I'd double check 
to add uniI rules under system to both sides before throwing them up if it was 
me.



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® S2

 Original message 
From: Eduardo >
Date: 9/16/17 8:32 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Power Beam M5 question

Hi,

Does anyone know if a PowerBeam M5-400 as a CEP will work with a NanoBridge 
M5-400 as an AP?

NanoBridge M5-400 is out of production and I wonder if PowerBeam M5-400 can 
work as a replacement.

Thanks,
Eduardo Mejia
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Re: [Ubnt_users] NBE-5AC-Gen2 firmware

[Rory Conaway]

8.3.2

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Eduardo
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 8:40 AM
To: Ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] NBE-5AC-Gen2 firmware

We got our new NBE-5AC-Gen2 radios with v8.1.2 and looking for recommendation 
about which is the more reliable version to upgrade to, the v8.3.0, the v8.3.1 
or the newest v8.3.2.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[Rory Conaway]

How do you add them manually?

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 9:00 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


having to add each radio manually.

- Original Message -
From: Jeremy Smith
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

If you run a scan on the entire /8 subnet that you are using it should find 
them all.  Assuming that you are only using one /8, of not then scan all of 
them.  It isn't speedy.


From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" >
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:09:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


I may be putting our techs to work... lol

- Original Message -
From: Aaron McKillip
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

We just manually add all new radios at the end of the day. easier than 
downgrading and upgrading firmware. Really hope they get the discovery working 
on the new firmware soon

Aaron McKillip
Hamilton Telecommunications
402-694-6655

On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:05 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:

My understanding is it is a code change in 6.0.4, and waiting for future 
versions of aircontrol probably won't fix it.
I just don't want to login to 300+ radios / access points to change firmware.  
Ugh!

I did notice you can do a broadcast from a manually entered device - but that 
does not appear to work - or it does
not find the equipment...


- Original Message -
From: Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM.  I had some 
being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but show in devices 
not found column of discovery.  TCP scan only showed prism radios too.

I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered.  I had to downgrade AP and CPE 
for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the missing radios!!

Troy




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 Original message 
From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
>
Date: 8/31/17 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any suggestions 
around this?

Thought I'd post it here too -

Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago.  About nine months ago I 
attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically corrupted my 
database and would not even start the server service.  Last night late I 
started over again from scratch.  Ran into the 6.0.4 problem as one of my 
network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually changed the ip 
addresses and put them all on 6.0.4


A different segment is still running 5.6.3.  I was planning to move them all to 
6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password.



Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that particular 
network segment but did not find any 6.0.4



Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from 6.0.4 to 
5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately.



I don't want to do this to 300 devices.



Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within our 
network.



I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the server is in 
public ip space).


I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be reporting 
to the wrong IP.



I can manually add the device but have not found a way to do that in bulk.



I don't know if it is easier for me to upgrade to something higher than 6.0.4 
on all of my devices and use discovery or to manually add 300+ devices.  I am 
hoping for another option.



Bueller?  Bueller?



Thanks

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Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs

[Rory Conaway]

Put a windows computer on the network.  It will post in event viewer with MAC 
addresses.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 2:35 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs

Discovery tool?

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jan-OOLLC 
> wrote:

ubnt specific.  What can be done to locate duplicate IP addresses.  Are there 
any applications that do this?

Jan V
On 08/18/2017 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Like Ubnt specific?  Not sure what the question is.
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On Aug 18, 2017 3:21 PM, "Jan-OOLLC" 
> wrote:
Anyone ever dealt with this?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0.6 isn't an upgrade, it's a legal brick

[Rory Conaway]

Can you clarify what regulatory requirement states that you have to prevent 
other software from running on your hardware?

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of UBNT SNK
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 5:55 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0.6 isn't an upgrade, it's a legal brick

Let me be very clear - this has nothing to do with preventing you from putting 
specific software (Cambium or otherwise) on your device, nor is it driven by 
lawyers in any way. Radios are also not bricked, nor are they sabotaged at all. 
No one is forced to upgrade and there is no modification of the user agreement 
here.

It is a regulatory requirement to prevent software which is not ours running on 
our devices, and also improves airMAX system security. These same protections 
are implemented on other products and by other vendors.

From: Robert >
Date: July 10, 2017 at 12:51:13 PM PDT
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0.6 isn't an upgrade, it's a legal brick
Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
>
When you can't compete technically, you compete legally...   Shortly
thereafter you wonder why your foot has a hole in it...

On 07/10/2017 12:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:

It seems that this upgrade isn't an upgrade at all.  It's driven by
lawyers requiring that you do an electronic signature that you agree to
not use Cambium Elevate software on this device. Pretty odd since it's
my radio, well past warranty so I can do what I want to it.  Is this the
direction UBNT is going, turn your radio into a brick if you don't
modify your use agreement with them?  Well Robert DID come from Apple so
I guess I shouldn't be surprised about sabotaging product to force you
into newer gear, guess 6.04 is the last update I'll do for my radios,
sad. #patheticdirection

Forbes Mercy



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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT 6.0.6 WARNING

[Rory Conaway]

What is the reason for this?

Rory

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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 12:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT 6.0.6 WARNING

What change is needed on how old of firmware?


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From: "Mitch" >
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" >
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 1:45:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT 6.0.6 WARNING

The latest reply from support



Donald G. (Ubiquiti Networks)

Jul 7, 08:33 PDT
Hi Mitch,

I can understand the concern but I'm not sure if there is going to be any 
changes made on the old firmwares.

If you have any other questions, please let us know!

Thanks!

Donald G.
Ubiquiti Networks

On 7/7/2017 12:08 PM, James Wilson wrote:
Thanks Chris, you may have just saved us from some misery!

On Jul 7, 2017 1:02 PM, "Chris Soiles" 
> wrote:
I had an issue when upgrading to 8.3 is it deactivated UNII and didn't 
associate with the AP when it rebooted
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505-966-6389

On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:00 AM, James Wilson 
> wrote:
We just received an AC 'chiclet' that had 8.1.something on it that wouldn't let 
us use an 8.0.2 (our current known working version on all of our AC radios) 
configuration on it.  And it wouldn't let us put 8.0.2 on it!

We had to find a PBE 5 AC radio, put 8.0.2 on it, load up the 8.0.2 
configuration, put 8.3 on it, and back up a new 8.3 configuration.  Fortunately 
we figured this out in the office before we took it to the field.

8.3 does seem to be working so far, but all of these firmware versions needing 
new configurations is almost as bad as MikroTik!




On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Tommy Adams 
> wrote:
Welcome to UBNT.


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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jan-OOLLC
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 10:30 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT 6.0.6 WARNING


How does something like this get out of the factory?

Jan V
On 07/07/2017 08:05 AM, RickG wrote:
Yup! Happened to me. Fortunately I was bench testing ;)

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:59 AM, 
> wrote:
Everyone

Heads up if you upgrade to 6.0.6 it will NOT allow

you to down grade firmware and seems to break

the LAN side of the radio.

Allows POE but no data and no LAN Graph

Have opened a support ticket but so far not much help

Looks like truck rolls to change radios so be careful

Mitch Koep

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber sale?

[Rory Conaway]

I bought 2 at that price for testing.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Clay Stewart
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:54 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber sale?

$199 for me on Prime

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jonathan Taylor 
> wrote:
Show's as $139 for me. but still cheap

Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
jtay...@wisouth.net
(334) 595-9521

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Chris J. Ruschmann 
> wrote:
Anyone know why af-2x’s are showing up as 99.00 on amazon? I just bought 6 of 
them and they are shipping already.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013Z7S3RQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8=1



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber sale?

[Rory Conaway]

It was $199 when we got there and we are registered as business.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Roy
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:32 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber sale?



Amazon has different prices for different classes of customer:  Prime, 
Business, General Public

You need to register as a business customer.  Registration is free

On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Too4Short--- via Ubnt_users wrote:
$239 here. What's business price?



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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[Rory Conaway]

First they have to get on the tower.  That part is going to be obvious  and 
they haven’t even applied for that.  Then good luck finding customers.  There 
are no business customers left in the entire town.  It will be interesting.

rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mimbres Communications
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:37 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

By old school microwave standards, most modern links are running at 100%, 
thanks to the continuously transmitted pseudorandom carriers.  I suspect that 
defense has managed to refute some accusations of underutilized links.  
Nowadays, you'd need archived traffic data to prove anything (which would be 
trivial to fake, if you happened to be faced with an unethical turdbag).

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
I’m going to have our attorney check that out.  Thanks for the heads up.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Mimbres Communications
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:40 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

I'll say it again: The traffic loading requirements leave the squatters open to 
a legal challenge.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Wow, you are dead on Faisal.  Govnet is filing for everything they can find in 
Arizona now with absolutely no customers and no chance of getting customers.  
Even if customers were there, they don't have a sales division, don't answer 
the phone, and don't respond to email.  This is what happens when bureaucratic 
morons give away $90M with no oversight and screw up real companies.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)
"Conserve Spectrum" 
"Waste of Resources"
"Spectrum Efficiency".

Where are you folks living ? Dream Land ? ..

When are going to wake up and realize that the battle is purely about spectrum 
grab.

My advice to you all newbies get the biggest chunk of 11ghz spectrum 
channels you can get and put up the radios that you can afford that will chew 
up the whole channel you can always get a better radio in the future (or 
when you can afford it).. but very surely you may not be so lucky in finding 
extra spectrum when you need it in the future

Doing anything less, is very likely to endanger your future business well 
being.

Can me whatever you like
But take it from someone who is waking up to this rather late i.e. 
virtually impossible to find 6ghz paths, virtually impossible to find 11ghz 
paths, and 18ghz are going fast too... BTW, we are in Rain Zone N which 
means only 11ghz & 6ghz are practical for any reasonable distance...

(BTW in our area, no 3.65, no CBRS, sprint is sitting on 2.5ahhh !...but we 
can use 24Ghz & 60Ghz & EBand ! )


. you think your industry peers are going to play nice with conserving 
spectrum ' !!! Think again...
e.g.   http://about.att.com/story/att_to_acquire_straight_path.html
Follow the bigger story starting with the FCC & Straight Path ...

--...

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Snappy Internet & Telecom
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Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[Rory Conaway]

I’m going to have our attorney check that out.  Thanks for the heads up.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mimbres Communications
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:40 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

I'll say it again: The traffic loading requirements leave the squatters open to 
a legal challenge.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Wow, you are dead on Faisal.  Govnet is filing for everything they can find in 
Arizona now with absolutely no customers and no chance of getting customers.  
Even if customers were there, they don't have a sales division, don't answer 
the phone, and don't respond to email.  This is what happens when bureaucratic 
morons give away $90M with no oversight and screw up real companies.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)
"Conserve Spectrum" 
"Waste of Resources"
"Spectrum Efficiency".

Where are you folks living ? Dream Land ? ..

When are going to wake up and realize that the battle is purely about spectrum 
grab.

My advice to you all newbies get the biggest chunk of 11ghz spectrum 
channels you can get and put up the radios that you can afford that will chew 
up the whole channel you can always get a better radio in the future (or 
when you can afford it).. but very surely you may not be so lucky in finding 
extra spectrum when you need it in the future

Doing anything less, is very likely to endanger your future business well 
being.

Can me whatever you like
But take it from someone who is waking up to this rather late i.e. 
virtually impossible to find 6ghz paths, virtually impossible to find 11ghz 
paths, and 18ghz are going fast too... BTW, we are in Rain Zone N which 
means only 11ghz & 6ghz are practical for any reasonable distance...

(BTW in our area, no 3.65, no CBRS, sprint is sitting on 2.5ahhh !...but we 
can use 24Ghz & 60Ghz & EBand ! )


. you think your industry peers are going to play nice with conserving 
spectrum ' !!! Think again...
e.g.   http://about.att.com/story/att_to_acquire_straight_path.html
Follow the bigger story starting with the FCC & Straight Path ...

--...

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[Rory Conaway]

Wow, you are dead on Faisal.  Govnet is filing for everything they can find in 
Arizona now with absolutely no customers and no chance of getting customers.  
Even if customers were there, they don't have a sales division, don't answer 
the phone, and don't respond to email.  This is what happens when bureaucratic 
morons give away $90M with no oversight and screw up real companies.

Rory 

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

"Conserve Spectrum" 
"Waste of Resources"
"Spectrum Efficiency".

Where are you folks living ? Dream Land ? ..

When are going to wake up and realize that the battle is purely about spectrum 
grab.

My advice to you all newbies get the biggest chunk of 11ghz spectrum 
channels you can get and put up the radios that you can afford that will chew 
up the whole channel you can always get a better radio in the future (or 
when you can afford it).. but very surely you may not be so lucky in finding 
extra spectrum when you need it in the future

Doing anything less, is very likely to endanger your future business well 
being.

Can me whatever you like
But take it from someone who is waking up to this rather late i.e. 
virtually impossible to find 6ghz paths, virtually impossible to find 11ghz 
paths, and 18ghz are going fast too... BTW, we are in Rain Zone N which 
means only 11ghz & 6ghz are practical for any reasonable distance...

(BTW in our area, no 3.65, no CBRS, sprint is sitting on 2.5ahhh !...but we 
can use 24Ghz & 60Ghz & EBand ! )


. you think your industry peers are going to play nice with conserving 
spectrum ' !!! Think again...
e.g.   http://about.att.com/story/att_to_acquire_straight_path.html
    Follow the bigger story starting with the FCC & Straight Path ...

--...

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
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[Ubnt_users] Why doesn't AirControl recongnize these AirGateways?

[Rory Conaway]

I can log in an update them manually. Just can't do it in AirControl.  There 
are only a few of them with this issue, about 5% or less, and all of them have 
1.16 on them.  I tried 1.17 and 1.19 and the options stay blank.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
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[Ubnt_users] 6.03 firmware still has some bugs

[Rory Conaway]

Started updating APs and backhauls to 6.03.

Started getting calls, users dropping, NetFlix buffering, etc...  Found out 
throughput on backhauls went way down.  Checked the first backhaul which was 
Powerbeam M5 and PowerBeam 400, xm and xw firmware, it went from 130Mbps to 
54Mbps on the backhaul even though signal levels were the same, -54/-55dBm.  
Even worse, throughput went to 1Mbps or less.  We change it back to 6.0 and 
wham, everything goes back to normal.  Not sure what's going on be we are going 
back to 6.0 on all APs and backhauls.


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4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
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[Ubnt_users] AirControl can't update AirGateways

[Rory Conaway]

I have several AirGateways that airControl says is not compatible with any of 
the airControl firmware.  I can upgrade them manually but I can't do block 
upgrades because I can't identity them unless I go through them one at a time.  
Considering I have hundreds of them out there, kind of a pain.  Any idea what's 
happening?

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0.1 performance

[Rory Conaway]

That would be the difference between PHY layer and MAC layer throughput.  
Sometimes it’s the processor, other times it’s interference.  In the case of 
AC-Lites, I would think more interference issues, the processor is pretty quick.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of David Jones
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 10:11 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0.1 performance

I have noticed 0% performance gain. I have noticed a bug that AC2 will report 
double the throughput but did not increase performance.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Tommy Adams 
> wrote:
Is there any speed increase or efficiency gained by going from 5.6.9 to 6.0.1?  
We are not running any AC gear so no compatibility to worry about.

Tommy



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Re: [Ubnt_users] bracket for omni amo-2g13

[Rory Conaway]

In a pinch, use hose clamps or if you size it out you can buy U-Bolts.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Duane Cox
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:47 AM
To: 'Ubnt_users@wispa.org'
Subject: [Ubnt_users] bracket for omni amo-2g13

I'm missing a few brackets for the amo-2g13 ubnt omni antenna, like this one 
(see attachment).
In the past I could get ubnt to ship me replacements, but when I emailed them 
today, they said that option is no longer available.

Does anyone have a few of these laying around that I could buy?
Or, do you know a vendor that would sell this bracket or something similar?

Thanks,
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AC Gen2 question

[Rory Conaway]

Are there any hard numbers to compare it with the Prism radios?

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jeremy Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:20 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AC Gen2 question

Gen2 hardware has a higher receive sensitivity, better shielding, and a 
built-in 2.4GHz wifi AP for configuration.  No GPS sync yet.


From: "infinite" >
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" >
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:51:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AC Gen2 question


As I understand it, GEN 2 is the new hardware line that is coming out with 
improvements.

The GPS sync will be out in beta soon (Firmware update) and will reach general 
release once all the bugs are ironed out.

GPS sync firmware will enable the feature on current AC GPS capable hardware.

On 03/23/2017 10:30 AM, alex phillips wrote:
I was not able to attend the UBNT session.

Is the new Gen 2 a firmware change that allow for new features such as GPS Sync 
so that if I have the current Prism AP's that have a GPS port, I am just 
upgrading software or is this a new hardware line?

Thanks
Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net
WISPA.org Board of Directors  (2011-2017)
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Re: [Ubnt_users] ISSUE AirRouter

[Rory Conaway]

That’s weird guys,  We’ve done hundreds of radios and haven’t seen the issue 
including 900Mhz where we believe there was an improvement.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 5:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] ISSUE AirRouter

Ditto but I backed down to 5.6.9. Why go all the way back to 5.5.11?

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Mitch 
> wrote:

Clay

We have seen the same thing with 6.0 and also XM devices crashing

So far the 6.0 has not worked well with any of our 2.4 or 900

XW we have seen power drops and crashing.

We have backed all air routers down to 5.5.11 and they are working great now.

We are working with the DEV firmwares and so far no changes

Also are testing the new GEN2 AC and so far looks great!!

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell



On 03/03/2017 04:17 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:
Never use AirGrids, sorry.

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Steve Barnes 
> wrote:
We are seeing Older AirGrids lose ½ their power after going to 6.0 and also 
seeing many more Crash reports with XM radios.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Clay Stewart
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: [Ubnt_users] ISSUE AirRouter

We had a major issue today with 17 installs today where as the AirRouter stops 
working after a minute or so after (or before) upgraded 6.00 firmware. If we 
down grade, it works. If we setup below 6.00 it works, then upgrade it fails. 
We do not have this happening on hundreds of wireless static IP customers. This 
is happening on one of our fiber networks which is private IP DHCP.

Clueless here, have any clues that is?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] nanobridge to what in the ac line?

[Rory Conaway]

Powerbeam 400AC

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 10:25 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] nanobridge to what in the ac line?


Which product is most similar to size and gain in the nanobeam ac line to a 
traditional 5 ghz nanobridge?

Thanks :)


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Re: [Ubnt_users] FW: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

[Rory Conaway]

My office is sending you all the RMA’s, when they were submitted, and when we 
got a response.

Rory

From: Ben Moore [mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:04 AM
To: Rory Conaway
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] FW: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

Hi Rory -

This is what I received back from RMA team:

RM39- Submitted 2/6/17- Cancelled as Out of Warranty - Date code from 2012

RM40- Submitted 2/6/17- Approved 2/6/17 - Received 2/22/17- Shipped 2/24/17

Let me know if you find other info and will check.

Thanks,
Ben

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Ben Moore 
<ben.mo...@ubnt.com<mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
Thanks.  Let me know what you find.  I am also checking with RMA team.

Thanks,
Ben

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Ben, to be clear, we submitted at least 10 devices if not more and it took at 
least a week to hear back on most of them.  I will confirm what you are saying 
in terms of proof of purchase being required only if it’s out of warranty but I 
do know most devices are pre-screened by date code to see if it’s even worth 
RMA’ing.  That also wasn’t the way it was presented to me by my staff but to be 
fair, I’ll confirm it in the morning.   Thanks for following up.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore via Ubnt_users
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 10:39 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] FW: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

So, just to make clear here...There isn't a new policy that has been put into 
place.  The unit that was being submitted was out of warranty period.

According to RMA team there were 2 RMA's submitted on February 6th and 1 was 
for out of warranty product (this is where proof of purchase must have come 
in).  The other RMA was received and was shipped back to you in 1-2 days.

Thanks,
Ben

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
It wasn’t rejected but I think it took a week to hear back.  In fact, several 
more came through today.

Look, this is kind of like Trump’s Executive Order.  It just seems like it got 
dropped on us with no notice and we weren’t prepared.  And it’s taking a long 
time to get a response so it seems like maybe it wasn’t ready internally either.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of James Craig via Ubnt_users
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:56 AM
To: Ben Moore
Cc: James Craig; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] FW: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

Taking a look in this one.

On Feb 24, 2017 10:51 AM, "Ben Moore" 
<ben.mo...@ubnt.com<mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
Was this one rejected?

James - can you check on this one and see what issue is?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Here is one we submitted last week for example.

Rory

From: UBNT RMA [mailto:r...@ubnt.com<mailto:r...@ubnt.com>]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:33 PM
To: Rory Conaway
Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

[http://content.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=77671=861648=22bb79bc66dfa68db080]
2580 Orchard Parkway
San Jose CA 95131-1033
US



Replacement RMA

Date



02/23/2017

Replacement #



US1077722

Ship Date



02/23/2017

Tracking #



1ZA92T380351123711

RMA No.



Return Authorization #RM41

End User Email



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Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0 Firmware not showing Device Names of clients on APs

[Rory Conaway]

I’ll have to look but why would that matter?  8.0 APs were showing 8.0 clients 
but not 6.0 client names.  6.0 aren’t showing any client names.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jesse DuPont
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:02 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0 Firmware not showing Device Names of clients on 
APs

Rory,

What is the AirMax Priority set to on your stations having issues on 6.0?
Jesse DuPont
Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net<mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
Celerity Networks LLC
Celerity Broadband LLC
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[cid:image002.png@01D290D5.9C6D7AA0]
On 2/27/17 6:56 AM, Clay Stewart wrote:
No issues here, but make sure every client is upgraded too. Saw improvements, 
especially in 900Mhz rockets.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Roy 
<r.engehau...@gmail.com<mailto:r.engehau...@gmail.com>> wrote:
XW 6.0 seems to be fine.  Clients are on XM 6.0.

Uptime is 8 days so stability seems to be OK.  Reason for 8 days was the 
massive power outage caused tby the storm in Northern CA.


On 2/25/2017 5:17 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
Anyone else having this issue?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] FW: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

[Rory Conaway]

It wasn’t rejected but I think it took a week to hear back.  In fact, several 
more came through today.

Look, this is kind of like Trump’s Executive Order.  It just seems like it got 
dropped on us with no notice and we weren’t prepared.  And it’s taking a long 
time to get a response so it seems like maybe it wasn’t ready internally either.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of James Craig via Ubnt_users
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:56 AM
To: Ben Moore
Cc: James Craig; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] FW: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

Taking a look in this one.

On Feb 24, 2017 10:51 AM, "Ben Moore" 
<ben.mo...@ubnt.com<mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
Was this one rejected?

James - can you check on this one and see what issue is?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Here is one we submitted last week for example.

Rory

From: UBNT RMA [mailto:r...@ubnt.com<mailto:r...@ubnt.com>]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:33 PM
To: Rory Conaway
Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

[http://content.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=77671=861648=22bb79bc66dfa68db080]
2580 Orchard Parkway
San Jose CA 95131-1033
US



Replacement RMA

Date



02/23/2017

Replacement #



US1077722

Ship Date



02/23/2017

Tracking #



1ZA92T380351123711

RMA No.



Return Authorization #RM41

End User Email



r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>

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Item

Quantity

Description

LocoM5(US)

1

NanoLocoM5 MIMO CPE, AirMax US



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Really liking that new return policy

[Rory Conaway]

We will do something different moving forward.  Just caught us off guard and 
it’s much slower.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Gabriel Rincon
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:52 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Really liking that new return policy


I put a small tag on equipment with date,vendor and INV number.

Makes it easier to track.
I.e. 12/07/15-isps-0756-3344

Date of purchase, ISP supplies, and their INV number (or your PO).

Gabriel E. Rincon
Mobius Internet, IT & Communications
225'490-5600



On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:44 PM -0600, "Jeff Evans" 
<jev...@pennwisp.com<mailto:jev...@pennwisp.com>> wrote:
I've been scanning or attaching the electronic copy to the inventory item in 
VISP. generally inventory is a PITA but necessary.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message ----
From: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Date: 2/23/17 11:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Really liking that new return policy

Yea, that’s not exactly the phrase I was using when I walk in and 3 hours later 
I’ve got an office person tearing the file cabinet apart.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of James Wilson
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:26 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Really liking that new return policy

This doesn't sound good...  If we have track each piece of equipment to its 
invoice...   :(

We just don't have the people for that.  And no warning.

On Feb 23, 2017 11:22 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
No, these are ones we use internally.  For example, we have learned that the 
outdoor 802.3a voltage adapters aren't really outdoor and yes, we mounted them 
correctly.  I think most of them have water damage.  The rest is various radios.

In the old days, we submit a MAC address, boom, wait a day or two, out the 
door.  I had to tie up an office person for hours tracking down receipts for 
this policy change.

Rory

-Original Message-
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[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:33 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Really liking that new return policy

That you sold?

On Thu, February 23, 2017 7:34 pm, Rory Conaway wrote:
> Have to pull receipts for every device we sold that was defective,
> then have to wait at least a week or more to hear something back to
> even ship it out.
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Really liking that new return policy

[Rory Conaway]

Yea, that’s not exactly the phrase I was using when I walk in and 3 hours later 
I’ve got an office person tearing the file cabinet apart.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of James Wilson
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:26 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Really liking that new return policy

This doesn't sound good...  If we have track each piece of equipment to its 
invoice...   :(

We just don't have the people for that.  And no warning.

On Feb 23, 2017 11:22 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
No, these are ones we use internally.  For example, we have learned that the 
outdoor 802.3a voltage adapters aren't really outdoor and yes, we mounted them 
correctly.  I think most of them have water damage.  The rest is various radios.

In the old days, we submit a MAC address, boom, wait a day or two, out the 
door.  I had to tie up an office person for hours tracking down receipts for 
this policy change.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:33 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Really liking that new return policy

That you sold?

On Thu, February 23, 2017 7:34 pm, Rory Conaway wrote:
> Have to pull receipts for every device we sold that was defective,
> then have to wait at least a week or more to hear something back to
> even ship it out.
>
> Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
> 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
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[Ubnt_users] FW: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

[Rory Conaway]

Here is one we submitted last week for example.

Rory

From: UBNT RMA [mailto:r...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:33 PM
To: Rory Conaway
Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.: Invoice #To Be Generated

[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/5FTNZehSGM8epHL_7sv-2gADMCwbSWKZCHkRGIu-i8bT_TLxieQY1VEyJ__R6aM2F-QEefhO31UyP9fMYUK4FctlZaVHoMdvq0XTDQCW5iuCyX3Ty_AYl5P7Yhnq4ghDXqaYCXoDAgIM2qafL3w=s0-d-e1-ft#http://content.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=77671=861648=22bb79bc66dfa68db080]
2580 Orchard Parkway
San Jose CA 95131-1033
US



Replacement RMA

Date



02/23/2017

Replacement #



US1077722

Ship Date



02/23/2017

Tracking #



1ZA92T380351123711

RMA No.



Return Authorization #RM41

End User Email



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

[Rory Conaway]

What’s really funny is that someone mentioned this on the Ubiquiti forum one 
day.  I think I said something like I don’t believe it.  Less than 24 hours 
later, I’m doing an installation, I look across the street and sure enough, a 
woodpecker was laying a beatdown on a Nanostation 5M.  We have since found 
about 4 radios like that out of a couple hundred in that area.  My guess is 
they don’t like green since that’s where they start.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brough Turner
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 1:15 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

Wow, I never thought of birds!

We're in Boston and nearby, equally urban, areas.
We see pigeons and sea gulls all the time, but not too many woodpeckers.   :)


Thanks,
Brough

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On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
We watched woodpeckers do this.  Had to make sure we mounted the lights below 
the top of the J-Mount so they couldn’t stand on something.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Kees H
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:17 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

Is the solution to put electrical tape over them at time of install?


From: Travis Allen
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 10:09 AM
To: Brandon Gilles ; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

We have also seen this problem numerous times.  Sometimes all the holes are 
pecked in.

Travis Allen
Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
totalhighspeed.com<http://totalhighspeed.com>
417-851-1107 x 501<tel:(417)%20851-1107>


From: "Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users" 
<ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:19:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

So when we've seen this, it's typically been a curious bird that caused it...

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Brough Turner 
<bro...@netblazr.com<mailto:bro...@netblazr.com>> wrote:
Here's something I hadn't seen before. The plastic cover on the light panel has 
failed but only over the power light and the LAN1 light. This radio failed in 
the field but my chief tech tells me this is the third Nanostation he's seen 
like this.  With the other two he just squeegeed some clear silicon into the 
holes and smeared some with his thumb over the rest of the yellowed cover.

[cid:image001.jpg@01D28C91.F5169490]
​
Presumably the power light and LAN1 light are hotter than the signal strength 
lamps??
In any event, it's three (so far) out of a population of~200 installed between 
2010 and 2015.

Thanks,
Brough

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

[Rory Conaway]

We watched woodpeckers do this.  Had to make sure we mounted the lights below 
the top of the J-Mount so they couldn’t stand on something.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Kees H
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:17 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

Is the solution to put electrical tape over them at time of install?


From: Travis Allen
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 10:09 AM
To: Brandon Gilles ; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

We have also seen this problem numerous times.  Sometimes all the holes are 
pecked in.

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From: "Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users" 
>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" >
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:19:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Water leak - 6 yr old NanoStation

So when we've seen this, it's typically been a curious bird that caused it...

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Brough Turner 
> wrote:

Here's something I hadn't seen before. The plastic cover on the light panel has 
failed but only over the power light and the LAN1 light. This radio failed in 
the field but my chief tech tells me this is the third Nanostation he's seen 
like this.  With the other two he just squeegeed some clear silicon into the 
holes and smeared some with his thumb over the rest of the yellowed cover.

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Presumably the power light and LAN1 light are hotter than the signal strength 
lamps??
In any event, it's three (so far) out of a population of~200 installed between 
2010 and 2015.

Thanks,
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[Ubnt_users] Missing feature from the Airrouters in 6.0

[Rory Conaway]

I've got users that we had to change from AirGateways to Airrouters because low 
signal users would drag down the AP and things like streaming would buffer.  
The Airrouter with 5.5.9 had a threshold setting so weak devices wouldn't 
connect.  It didn't stop users from connecting and then walking away which it 
needed to do but at least they wouldn't connect.  The threshold setting is gone 
from 6.0 and of course, here come the tech calls about slow speeds.  Now I've 
got to go back and change all my AirRouters back to 5.5.9.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] V6 and v8

[Rory Conaway]

For the most part, no problems.  Still having issues with random xw radios not 
connecting to xw APs. Ubiquiti is looking at it.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:32 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] V6 and v8

I mass pushed out v6 and v8 to my whole network and not one single problem.  I 
am running sites that are only V6.0, V8.0, and Mixed mode.  Over 1500+ radios 
of all different shapes flavors and sizesall 5ghz although. 

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> On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:22 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
> 
> Are both stable and ready to use?
> 
> Jon Langeler
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Re: [Ubnt_users] armored cat6 outdoor cable

[Rory Conaway]

We have had rabbits chew through ours.  Can't run cables along the ground 
unless it's trenched out here.

Rory

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Behalf Of Tommy Adams
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:47 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] armored cat6 outdoor cable

You could try a live animal trap or if all else fails a pellet gun. 



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> On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
> 
> That also cures coons that attack chickens.
> 
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> 
>> On 1/12/2017 12:54 PM, Sam Morris wrote:
>> I know this probably isn't one of the the solutions you were looking 
>> for, but someone who isn't me has controlled raccoons with a mixture 
>> of Golden Malrin (that's spelled correctly) fly killer mixed with 
>> some Coke and left in a bowl for the raccoons. Someone who isn't me 
>> used it because coons were killing his sweet corn patch, and reports 
>> that they will drop within five steps.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/11/2017 3:30 PM, Kevin Lamothe wrote:
>>> Has anyone here used any armored cat6 cable?
>>> 
>>> I'm having problems at one grain elevator where raccoons are living 
>>> on the platforms. Gone through 3 rounds of shielded cat6 runs.
>>> 
>>> The landlord doesn't want conduit ran is my other problem.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption

[Rory Conaway]

I think you are thinking of the AF24’s.  They draw quite a bit more.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:25 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption

That's why I regulate the voltage.  From as low as 19v it'll do 24v to the gear.

Netonix does this as well.
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On Jan 5, 2017 4:31 PM, "Steve D" > 
wrote:
Oh, that is bloody fantastic.  Thanks for the responses guys.  I'd love to hear 
from Ubnt guys about the low end power and whether they can they safely hit 20v 
in a worst case scenario.  We really try our best to avoid ever going under 24v 
but it's nice to have wiggle room for days when everything goes stupid.  And 
much, much love for the wide range of input voltage because I can totally see 
ourselves eventually moving to 48v if we ever did this again.

-Steve

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
I've measured similar power consumption... the spec sheet is definitely on the 
high side. I usually figure 8 watts for planning purposes, but I haven't ever 
seen them actually draw that much. According to ubiquiti, the input voltage is 
19v to 53v now, but I don't think they are 802.3af compliant.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Josh Luthman 
[j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 2:46 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
Power consumption

Wall is 123vac. Amp meter says 0.07a. 8.61 watts. This is the factory POE.
POE spits out 24vdc. Amp meter said 0.23a. 5.52 watts.
I waited ~10 minutes after it booted to look. They were definitely associated. 
It's running 33dBm EIRP @ 5240.

6 watt radio I would *NOT* call power hungry at all.

They were 24v radios on the first shipment, there's a specific MAC address 
range (very small).  These days they're 24-48 volts.  It's to the point where 
Netonix is removing 24vh (power on 4 pairs) because AF5x was the only radio 
that uses it and it isn't necessary but for a small number of existing units.

I think the cut off is 20v?


Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Adair Winter 
> wrote:
We run them at 24 and 48 volts no problem. never tried them on less than 24 
though.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Steve D 
> wrote:
Spec sheet says they'll take an input voltage between 19-29v and draw up to 
12watts.  Anyone able to tell me how true this is?  Looking to bolt something 
onto a solar site, and I was under the impression the airfiber line was power 
hungry.  Plus, I could have sworn they were af802.3 compliant so 48 volt.  This 
isn't a case of someone copy pasting spec sheets from airmax radios, is it?

Cheers,

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

[Rory Conaway]

We didn’t have the luxury of changing out the Rocket 5M due to the lateness of 
the hour but it has been running for 3 years through various updates.  We ended 
up using the old as dirt NS5M Loco, XM chipset, turning that into an AP and 
turning the Rocket into the CPE.  If the Loco was the CPE, it rebooted also.  
We are going to go back and change them both out next time we are down there.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tyson
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:50 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

If its not hard replace the ap with another xm or a xw even.  Im really curious 
the outcome and hope you share end result.  We have had some issues with the xm 
to xw but nothing to this degree.  Wish you best of luck sounds frustrating.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message 
From: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Date: 12/28/16 11:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

Yea, it’s a weird one.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:56 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

There does seem to be some incompatibility slight issues between the XM & XW 
radios. But not always?

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Just 1.

Tried multiple versions of firmware across multiple radios.

The AP is an XM radio.  But we flipped the AP and the client so the AP was a WA 
on 3 of the 4 radios.

Same version was loaded on both sides, multiples.

The AP wasn't rebooting, just all the clients and no, watchdog was not enabled.

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 3:57 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP
How many cpe's on the ap?

Are you saying you tried 5.6.2 to 5.6.9 and a couple of betas on the AP?

Is the AP an XM version?

What firmware versions are on the CPE?

Don't suppose there is a ping watchdog on the AP.

On Tue, December 27, 2016 10:42 pm, Rory Conaway wrote:
> We tried 3 different PB400 nose cones, a NB19, and different versions
> of firmware from 5.6.2 to 5.6.9 and a couple of beta versions
> including v6.0 beta 15 and as soon as the client connects to the AP,
> the PB400's and NB19's reboot.  We have used different cables, power 
> supplies, etc...
> Putting on 6.0 right now but this is just weird.  We have also tried
> multiple IP addresses in case there was an IP conflict.   Any ideas are
> welcome.
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

[Rory Conaway]

Just 1.

Tried multiple versions of firmware across multiple radios.

The AP is an XM radio.  But we flipped the AP and the client so the AP was a WA 
on 3 of the 4 radios.

Same version was loaded on both sides, multiples.

The AP wasn't rebooting, just all the clients and no, watchdog was not enabled.

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 3:57 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

How many cpe's on the ap?

Are you saying you tried 5.6.2 to 5.6.9 and a couple of betas on the AP?

Is the AP an XM version?

What firmware versions are on the CPE?

Don't suppose there is a ping watchdog on the AP.

On Tue, December 27, 2016 10:42 pm, Rory Conaway wrote:
> We tried 3 different PB400 nose cones, a NB19, and different versions 
> of firmware from 5.6.2 to 5.6.9 and a couple of beta versions 
> including v6.0 beta 15 and as soon as the client connects to the AP, 
> the PB400's and NB19's reboot.  We have used different cables, power 
> supplies, etc...
> Putting on 6.0 right now but this is just weird.  We have also tried
> multiple IP addresses in case there was an IP conflict.   Any ideas are
> welcome.
>
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> 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
> 602-426-0542
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

[Rory Conaway]

Here is one other funny thing.  We pointed one of the radios to a different AP. 
 Came right up, no reboot.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 10:33 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

This AP, Rocket 5M only has 1 client attached.  We got to the point of just 
running premade jumpers, multiples of them, multiple PoE power supplies, and 
finally even a netonix.  The clients all rebooted.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tyson
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 10:01 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

So multiple clients all reboot at the same time or just every different kind of 
ubnt gear you use at this particular location reboots when it associates.  
Either way...sounds like u have done a clean install at this location so 
should work unless the ap is the problem.  If its just one location off an Ap 
and you think the AP is good then even though you said you already have changed 
wires, poe, ect major stumpers like you are describing usually lead back to a 
wire in my exp or even possibly a poe.  Id double check the wire tho if its 
isolated to one location and tried a handful of different cpe's



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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From: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Date: 12/27/16 9:42 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

We tried 3 different PB400 nose cones, a NB19, and different versions of 
firmware from 5.6.2 to 5.6.9 and a couple of beta versions including v6.0 beta 
15 and as soon as the client connects to the AP, the PB400’s and NB19’s reboot. 
 We have used different cables, power supplies, etc… Putting on 6.0 right now 
but this is just weird.  We have also tried multiple IP addresses in case there 
was an IP conflict.   Any ideas are welcome.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

[Rory Conaway]

This AP, Rocket 5M only has 1 client attached.  We got to the point of just 
running premade jumpers, multiples of them, multiple PoE power supplies, and 
finally even a netonix.  The clients all rebooted.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tyson
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 10:01 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

So multiple clients all reboot at the same time or just every different kind of 
ubnt gear you use at this particular location reboots when it associates.  
Either way...sounds like u have done a clean install at this location so 
should work unless the ap is the problem.  If its just one location off an Ap 
and you think the AP is good then even though you said you already have changed 
wires, poe, ect major stumpers like you are describing usually lead back to a 
wire in my exp or even possibly a poe.  Id double check the wire tho if its 
isolated to one location and tried a handful of different cpe's



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message 
From: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Date: 12/27/16 9:42 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Reboot problem when connecting to AP

We tried 3 different PB400 nose cones, a NB19, and different versions of 
firmware from 5.6.2 to 5.6.9 and a couple of beta versions including v6.0 beta 
15 and as soon as the client connects to the AP, the PB400’s and NB19’s reboot. 
 We have used different cables, power supplies, etc… Putting on 6.0 right now 
but this is just weird.  We have also tried multiple IP addresses in case there 
was an IP conflict.   Any ideas are welcome.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
www.triadwireless.net<http://www.triadwireless.net/>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC

[Rory Conaway]

Actually, that’s a great question.  More specifically, other than the fact that 
the AF-5X can go to 512 or 1024Q, can’t remember which, which one has better 
filtering and adjacent spectrum interference rejection.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 6:44 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC

PtMP capability. Ability to connect to M and AC series radios. Price? That's 
about it that I can think of.


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From: "RickG" >
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" >
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:34:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC
I haven't used those but I've got a pair of the light AC units on a link that 
I'm very happy with.  With that said, I've been using the AF-5X radios for my 
PTP links. Besides price, what advantage, if any, does the R5AC‑PRISM have over 
the AF-5X?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:24 PM, J Portman 
> wrote:
Ok. So there were some early PTP AC rockets with 'Prism' technology in them.
They did not support all frequencies and came with plastic case.
Never owned one. Lack of frequencies made them less than useful.

I have about 80 of these: https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/rocket5ac-prism/

They support all frequencies (if you have the magic code and load 8.x on them ).

They ROCK.

Cannot emphasize enough how good they have been for our network.

My advice, take those early PTP models (even if you upgraded the software) and 
ebay them.

Buy the real deal. Model is:

I paid about $225 each for mine.

YMMV,

On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 09:35:11 -0800, Kees H wrote
> UBNT sold them to as as having Airprism.  The picture is of the box the radio 
> came in.  According to the box, (see the description on the bottom) it has 
> airprism.   We bought these when the Airprism came first out.  However how 
> does one identify these after they have been removed from the box?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: J Portman
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:30 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC
>
> That is not a Prism.
>
> Clues:
>
>

  1.  No gps connector
  2.  Does not say Prism on it.
>

> JP
>  On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:01:22 -0800, Kees H wrote
> > I was hoping UBNT would chime in on this one.  As I [UTF-8?]don’t want to 
> > climb our 130ft tower and put up the wrong AP.
> > As you can see from the attached picture, mine does not look like your 
> > description.  I suspect it is because this is an earlier (first) version.  
> > This was from a spare.  But we have several that have been removed from ptp 
> > links.  And I need a way to identify them from non prism RM5s.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Phil Curnutt
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:28 PM
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC
> >
> >
> > Prisms are longer, more square edged, and in a metallic case (tap the case 
> > with your finger nail) as compared to all the other Rocket AC's.   Oh, and 
> > they say "PRISM" across the front and have a GPS port between the Antenna 
> > ports.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Kees H 
> > > wrote:
> >

> >
> > Are you sure that Prisms are metal case only.  I know I ordered some 
> > Prisms, but we have only plastic case.
> > How can one identify between them?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Phil Curnutt
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 3:47 PM
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC
> >
> >
> > There are:
> > Rocket AC Lites:  All UNII bands, but not filters, plastic case.
> > Rocket AC PtP:  All UNII bands, but no filters, plastic case.  These were 
> > originally PtP only, but after some early   firmware update also could 
> > do PtMP.
> > Rocket AC PtMP:  No 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

[Rory Conaway]

However, now I’m noticing that the someone forgot to fill in the following 
fields on the AP, Device Model, and Device Name on the Station list on the AP.  
 Is that something that is going to get addressed?

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:42 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

We ran a small test by upgrading the client first and the Rocket 5AC Lite last. 
 So far it seems to be working for the first 10 users.  We are going to slowly 
expand the upgrade.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 9:13 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

I've done it both ways with almost zero issues.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Mike Hammett 
<wispaubntus...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
All platforms update the CPE first. That's just how it works.

I haven't needed to truck roll for a failed firmware upgrade on any platform.


-
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From: "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com<mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 12:27:32 PM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
Updating CPE first?  Mike, you secretly started drinking the Ubuiquiti koolaid? 
 You of all people are going to let them get away with shoddy QA?  It's okay if 
new cpe are deployed one at a time are at or newer, but when doing a system 
wide upgrade, no f'n way.  The damn things should be able to be newer or older 
and just connect and just work regardless.

A stone-cold reliable updating process should be number one on their list.  I 
just updated some scabby old canopy network we acquired a couple weeks ago from 
versions 6-10 years old and it just worked, no BS.  Did the AP first.  Then 
brought up a handful of CPE.  Then the whole works.  We don't even have 
addresses for all these locations so really didn't want to truck roll.  But I 
trust that update system.

A primary/secondary firmware loading system ought to get on their to-do list at 
the very least.  If people can't trust the damn things to work without truck 
rolls, then people won't update firmware.  Period.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Mike Hammett 
<wispaubntus...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I think the clients should always be at equal or greater version than the AP, 
regardless of the platform.


-
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From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To

Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

[Rory Conaway]

We ran a small test by upgrading the client first and the Rocket 5AC Lite last. 
 So far it seems to be working for the first 10 users.  We are going to slowly 
expand the upgrade.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 9:13 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

I've done it both ways with almost zero issues.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Mike Hammett 
<wispaubntus...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
All platforms update the CPE first. That's just how it works.

I haven't needed to truck roll for a failed firmware upgrade on any platform.


-
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From: "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com<mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 12:27:32 PM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
Updating CPE first?  Mike, you secretly started drinking the Ubuiquiti koolaid? 
 You of all people are going to let them get away with shoddy QA?  It's okay if 
new cpe are deployed one at a time are at or newer, but when doing a system 
wide upgrade, no f'n way.  The damn things should be able to be newer or older 
and just connect and just work regardless.

A stone-cold reliable updating process should be number one on their list.  I 
just updated some scabby old canopy network we acquired a couple weeks ago from 
versions 6-10 years old and it just worked, no BS.  Did the AP first.  Then 
brought up a handful of CPE.  Then the whole works.  We don't even have 
addresses for all these locations so really didn't want to truck roll.  But I 
trust that update system.

A primary/secondary firmware loading system ought to get on their to-do list at 
the very least.  If people can't trust the damn things to work without truck 
rolls, then people won't update firmware.  Period.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Mike Hammett 
<wispaubntus...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I think the clients should always be at equal or greater version than the AP, 
regardless of the platform.


-
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From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:08:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

I just test it with an XM Rocket 5M.  All clients on beta 15.  41 users online. 
 After installation, 18 users came up.  Went back to Beta, 41 users online 
again.  I'm not sure if I have to make all the clients 6.0 first but I do know 
that this is exactly what we saw with RC3

Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

[Rory Conaway]

Yea, did that and it bit me hard.  When I have more time after the first of the 
year and techs on standby in the areas we need to upgrade, I will consider it 
again.  We did that with RC3 and the clients wouldn’t come back up.  Happy 
clients, happy techs, so much fun.  At least we got to reconnect with the 
clients personally as we went to each one of their houses.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:10 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

I think the clients should always be at equal or greater version than the AP, 
regardless of the platform.


-
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From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:08:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

I just test it with an XM Rocket 5M.  All clients on beta 15.  41 users online. 
 After installation, 18 users came up.  Went back to Beta, 41 users online 
again.  I'm not sure if I have to make all the clients 6.0 first but I do know 
that this is exactly what we saw with RC3 and we had to go to a lot of houses 
to unload it when they wouldn't reconnect.  We refer to that as hell week.

Rory

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[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Bright
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:08 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

On 12/20/2016 9:43 AM, Kevin Lamothe wrote:
> My experiences so far:
>
> 8.0 is stable
>
> 6.0 is stable running on 5GHz only. 2.4GHz and 900MHz AP/cpes will
> randomly disconnect or goto sleep. Downgrading it back to 5.6.9 fixed
> it for us.
>
> Ubiquiti is reviewing some support files I sent em.
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[Rory Conaway]

I just test it with an XM Rocket 5M.  All clients on beta 15.  41 users online. 
 After installation, 18 users came up.  Went back to Beta, 41 users online 
again.  I'm not sure if I have to make all the clients 6.0 first but I do know 
that this is exactly what we saw with RC3 and we had to go to a lot of houses 
to unload it when they wouldn't reconnect.  We refer to that as hell week.

Rory

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Behalf Of Nick Bright
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:08 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

On 12/20/2016 9:43 AM, Kevin Lamothe wrote:
> My experiences so far:
>
> 8.0 is stable
>
> 6.0 is stable running on 5GHz only. 2.4GHz and 900MHz AP/cpes will 
> randomly disconnect or goto sleep. Downgrading it back to 5.6.9 fixed 
> it for us.
>
> Ubiquiti is reviewing some support files I sent em.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

[Rory Conaway]

95% of our outdoor radios are bridged as are all of our APS.  All of the 
Airrouters were Nat’ed.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jesse DuPont
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 1:03 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

For those of you who have responded with your experience with v6/v8, would you 
mind replying again, but also indicating how your SMs are configured (bridged, 
NAT, routed, etc.). Our experience has been good with 6.0/8.0, all our SMs are 
bridged. Particularly, those who had to truck-roll to go load older firmware, 
how are your SM's configured?

Thanks!
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On 12/20/16 11:00 AM, RickG wrote:
I had the disconnects/sleep issue up to 5.6.9. Downgraded all the way back to 
5.6.5 :(

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Kevin Lamothe 
<klamo...@vianet.ca<mailto:klamo...@vianet.ca>> wrote:
My experiences so far:

8.0 is stable

6.0 is stable running on 5GHz only. 2.4GHz and 900MHz AP/cpes will
randomly disconnect or goto sleep. Downgrading it back to 5.6.9 fixed it
for us.

Ubiquiti is reviewing some support files I sent em.


On 12/20/2016 10:09, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> We started deploying RC3 and ran into major issues.  Our phones
> exploded with complaint of disconnection and slow service. It took us
> days to put beta 15 and 19 back on and a lot of visits to houses that
> wouldn’t reconnect.  I’ll wait until it’s been out for a little while.
>
> Rory
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] 
> *On Behalf Of *Matthew Brendle
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 7:35 AM
> *To:* 'Ubiquiti Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
>
> I see where they have made some DHCP improvements.  Anyone test them
> yet.  In the past 8.0 betas I saw DHCP would pull an address from
> tower, but if I clicked on renew it would hang up and DHCPc would stop
> on WLAN.
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
> <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] 
> *On Behalf Of *J Portman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:09 PM
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> <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
>
> We've been running 8beta and 6beta for months. Using Rocket-AC Prisms
> as AP with M series clients.
> Very fast, very stable.
>
> JP
> *On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:23:25 -0500, Matthew Brendle wrote*
> > So I see that 8.0 and 6.0 have been released in Final version.  Are
> they replacing the 5.x and 7.x versions?
> >
> > Matt
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

[Rory Conaway]

What is the experience of 6.0 on Airrouters? 

Rory

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Lamothe
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:43 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

My experiences so far:

8.0 is stable

6.0 is stable running on 5GHz only. 2.4GHz and 900MHz AP/cpes will randomly 
disconnect or goto sleep. Downgrading it back to 5.6.9 fixed it for us.

Ubiquiti is reviewing some support files I sent em.


On 12/20/2016 10:09, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> We started deploying RC3 and ran into major issues.  Our phones 
> exploded with complaint of disconnection and slow service. It took us 
> days to put beta 15 and 19 back on and a lot of visits to houses that 
> wouldn't reconnect.  I'll wait until it's been out for a little while.
>
> Rory
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Brendle
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 7:35 AM
> *To:* 'Ubiquiti Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
>
> I see where they have made some DHCP improvements.  Anyone test them 
> yet.  In the past 8.0 betas I saw DHCP would pull an address from 
> tower, but if I clicked on renew it would hang up and DHCPc would stop 
> on WLAN.
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *J Portman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:09 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org 
> <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
>
> We've been running 8beta and 6beta for months. Using Rocket-AC Prisms 
> as AP with M series clients.
> Very fast, very stable.
>
> JP
> *On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:23:25 -0500, Matthew Brendle wrote*
> > So I see that 8.0 and 6.0 have been released in Final version.  Are
> they replacing the 5.x and 7.x versions?
> >
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

[Rory Conaway]

We started deploying RC3 and ran into major issues.  Our phones exploded with 
complaint of disconnection and slow service.  It took us days to put beta 15 
and 19 back on and a lot of visits to houses that wouldn't reconnect.  I'll 
wait until it's been out for a little while.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Matthew Brendle
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 7:35 AM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group'
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

I see where they have made some DHCP improvements.  Anyone test them yet.  In 
the past 8.0 betas I saw DHCP would pull an address from tower, but if I 
clicked on renew it would hang up and DHCPc would stop on WLAN.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of J Portman
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:09 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases

We've been running 8beta and 6beta for months. Using Rocket-AC Prisms as AP 
with M series clients.
Very fast, very stable.

JP
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:23:25 -0500, Matthew Brendle wrote
> So I see that 8.0 and 6.0 have been released in Final version.  Are they 
> replacing the 5.x and 7.x versions?
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Great CCQ, AMC, AMQ, etc. shit throughput

[Rory Conaway]

Oops, meant Mike.  Are you going through a wall?

Rory

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Great CCQ, AMC, AMQ, etc. shit throughput

Scott, I'm still baffled how you get a -57 at 200 feet?  I had to switch from 
Nano Loco's to Nanostation 5m's simply because they could go down to -4dBm and 
the Locos couldn't.  Your signal should be in the 20's or 30's.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Scott Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:13 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Great CCQ, AMC, AMQ, etc. shit throughput

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 08:18:45PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
> It worked until 8 AM this morning deployed. 
> 

I know you said noise was unlikely.  Can you run an AirView anyway to make 
sure?  I suspect your air rates would be in the toilet if there was anything 
making enough noise to slow your throughput this much.  Unless maybe, WAG, it's 
really narrow band FHSS?

You didn't mention it, but I assume you've checked that the ethernet 
negotiation is correct at both ends?

Any possibility voltage is down into brownout range?

It was like someone flipped a switch and throughput went to heck at 8:00?  Or 
customer came in at 8 and throughput was bad, problem may have come about 
between 5pm yesterday and this morning?

How old is the gear?
 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: "Kees H" <wi...@calbroadband.com>
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 5:17:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Great CCQ, AMC, AMQ, etc. shit throughput
> 
> 
> 
> Did the link work in the office? 
> 
> From: Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:47 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] Great CCQ, AMC, AMQ, etc. shit throughput
> 
>
> I have a link that's a couple hundred feet. -57 or so signal with 
> balanced chains. CCQ, AMC and AMQ are all above 95%. I only can get 
> double digit KILObit throughput one direction. I've rebooted, upgraded 
> to 5.6.9, sent in support files, checked CPU usage, etc. Modulations 
> are 130/130 on 20 MHz (was at least 240/240, usually 270/300 on 40 
> MHz). The worst noise in the area is probably -87.
>
>
> I have no clue.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

[Rory Conaway]

Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs on 
5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop fast.

I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing priorities.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
To: Don Spaulding
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Yes, each hop halves the throughput:

Here's an example:

·   20MHz channels

·   Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz

·   UAP-AC-M

Hardwired:

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec  receiver


First hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec  receiver


Second hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  receiver

So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for service/etc.

Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned.

Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz.  You can always 
disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only, so:

5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh.
2.4GHz: station service.

This will increase performance.

Cheers,
Brandon

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding 
> wrote:
Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs?

I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by each 
wireless hop halving the throughput of the system.

I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I could 
easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to destroy 
the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a 4-hop mesh.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband 
> wrote:


Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh goes? 
Do either of them mesh to either unit?

Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?

Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the other 3?

On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in 
December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.

You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at 
store.ubnt.com/beta (there are about 500 left) now 
and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.

These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We release 
there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help those guys 
who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.

Cheers,
Brandon

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis 
> wrote:

When will they ship at those prices?

I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would allow 
me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...



Blair

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On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
Hey Ubiquiti Users,

Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:

  *   UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
  *   UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
#1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
#2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
#3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.

Check them out here:
https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/

These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in volume in 
December.

And Beta users can actually buy them now at 
store.ubnt.com/beta

Cheers,
UBNT-Brandon


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Backhaul Radios freeze on Station side

[Rory Conaway]

I had pretty much the same situation with 5.5.9. Change the hardware but still 
get the latest firmware.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of t...@byhalia.net
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 11:03 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Backhaul Radios freeze on Station side

I have had 3 towers in the past week have the Station side of the Backhaul link 
lock up and not transfer service to the tower until rebooted, but each stayed 
connected to the AP side of the Backhaul connection.  In all 3 cases, I was 
able to log into both the AP and Station side of the backhaul link to reboot 
the station remotely.  Once rebooted every CPE came back online.

These radios have been in operation for months and zero issues.  The details 
are below for the setup and firmware.

The radio's are M series Rocket radios.

Tower 1:  M5 5.6.4 XW to M5 5.6.4 XW

Tower 2:  M365 5.6.4 XM to M365 5.6.4 XM

Tower 3:  PBE M5 5.6.6 XW to M5 5.6.6 XM

I have not seen this occur previously and wondered if it was a firmware issue.  
Also, I am not using any DFS channels for either tower.  Any ideas or areas to 
monitor is appreciated.

Troy

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Re: [Ubnt_users] WAN Port Goes to Sleep on PowerBeam M5

[Rory Conaway]

Sam, it's a $100 radio, just replace it, problem solved.  

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Sam Morris
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 6:51 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WAN Port Goes to Sleep on PowerBeam M5

The problem is that it doesn't reset - it locks up. Doesn't respond to pigs 
even from the Netonix into which it's plugged. I have to power cycle the PoE on 
the port to get the radio to come back up. I did disable the reset as you 
suggested. I'm also sending a new radio over but it will likely be next week 
before they can get it up the tower unless the radio goes completely tits up.

On 11/3/2016 7:58 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> What happens is the 24V+ gets on the data pins due to corrosion and 
> the Ubnt radio thinks you're trying to reset it.  It doesn't know the 
> difference between the corrosion and you hitting the switch on the POE.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com 
> <mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone. I'll send another radio over there to be replaced. I
> was afraid it would likely be something physical (short, water in the
> cable, bad radio, etc), though I was hoping that there was possibly
> something logical that could be the cause.
>
> Josh, I can disable the reset switch...I'd not thought about doing that.
> It's plugged into a Netonix as I mentioned, so I can reset it from there
> (which I'm having to do anyhow when it locks up). I'll give that a try
> and see if it helps until I can get a crew to put up a replacement.
>
> I'll let you know the outcome.
>
> Thanks again everyone,
> Sam
>
> On 11/2/2016 10:59 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > If you have that "reset switch enabled" and water in the line, it could
> > be the source of all your problems.  I've seen this a few times
> >
> > Look at the port in the Netonix, make sure it's all clean/dry.  Make
> > sure the line has a weep hole through the plastic.  Replace radio.
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office:937-552-2340 
> > Direct:937-552-2343 
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net 
> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
> > <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>> wrote:
> >
> > It's either a grounding issue or a bad radio.  More than likely you
> > just want to replace it.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>]
> On Behalf Of Sam Morris
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 8:48 AM
>  > To: ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
>  > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WAN Port Goes to Sleep on PowerBeam M5
>  >
>  > I completely misreported this. What is happening is every four or
>  > five days I have a PowerBeam M5 620 that locks up. This radio
> is a
>  > couple hundred miles away and 130ft up on a tower, so I can't
> easily
>  > be certain that there are no lights on on the feedhorn, but can
>  > confirm it is inaccessible. The port indicator on the Netonix
> stays
>  > lit up - it doesn't show the port as being down, however I'm
> unable
>  > to ping it from the switch. This is on a PtP link that's been up
>  > without issue for going on two years. I also noticed that on this
>  > radio, the LAN side is only 100MF. (On the radio I have it set to
>  > 10-100-1000 Auto. On the Netonix if I lock it to 1G, the
> radio loses
>  > connection with the switch. If I set the Netonix to Auto, it
>  > negotiates at 100MF.) To recover, I log into the Netonix
> switch and
>  > bounce the PoE port, and it's good for another four or five

Re: [Ubnt_users] WAN Port Goes to Sleep on PowerBeam M5

[Rory Conaway]

It's either a grounding issue or a bad radio.  More than likely you just want 
to replace it.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Sam Morris
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 8:48 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WAN Port Goes to Sleep on PowerBeam M5

I completely misreported this. What is happening is every four or five days I 
have a PowerBeam M5 620 that locks up. This radio is a couple hundred miles 
away and 130ft up on a tower, so I can't easily be certain that there are no 
lights on on the feedhorn, but can confirm it is inaccessible. The port 
indicator on the Netonix stays lit up - it doesn't show the port as being down, 
however I'm unable to ping it from the switch. This is on a PtP link that's 
been up without issue for going on two years. I also noticed that on this 
radio, the LAN side is only 100MF. (On the radio I have it set to 10-100-1000 
Auto. On the Netonix if I lock it to 1G, the radio loses connection with the 
switch. If I set the Netonix to Auto, it negotiates at 100MF.) To recover, I 
log into the Netonix switch and bounce the PoE port, and it's good for another 
four or five days. I was running 5.6.5 XW on it. I just upgraded it to 5.6.9 XW 
this morning. I don't know if that will resolve the issue or not (there's 
 nothing in the release notes to lead me to believe this is something that was 
fixed between 5.6.5 and 5.6.9). While I wait to see if it helps I thought I'd 
see if anyone else has seen anything like this. Given that it won't negotiate 
to 1G, could the cable be causing this? Seems like it would be easy to blame 
the cable for the inability of the radio to negotiate at 1G, however I wouldn't 
think a bad cable would allow the radio to stay up for five days, then lock up 
hard, only to run again for five days after being power cycled, lock up hard, 
etc. 
After upgrading the firmware, the radio still still only negotiates to 100MF. I 
tried putting it on a different Netonix but that changed nothing.

(I have to remember to stop asking for help before I've had coffee. I do have 
another radio where the WLAN port was going to sleep but I think I have that 
figured out.)

Thanks,
Sam

On 11/2/2016 9:16 AM, Sam Morris wrote:
> Yes...you have to listen to what I mean and not what I write. :)
>
>
> On 11/2/2016 7:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> You mean WLAN port?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2016 8:47 AM, "Sam Morris" > > wrote:
>>
>>  Have any of you seen the WAN port going to sleep every four or five days
>>  or so on a PowerBeam M5? I've started seeing that on a PtP link that's
>>  been up without issue for going on two years. When this happens, I log
>>  into the Netonix switch and bounce the PoE port, and it's good for
>>  another four or five days. I was running 5.6.5 XW on it. I just upgraded
>>  it to 5.6.9 XW this morning. I don't know if that will resolve the issue
>>  or not (there's nothing in the release notes to lead me to believe this
>>  is something that was fixed between 5.6.5 and 5.6.9). While I wait to
>>  see if it helps I thought I'd see if anyone else has seen anything like
>>  this.
>>
>>  Thanks
>>  Sam
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Re: [Ubnt_users] M5 Rocket XM to XW issue

[Rory Conaway]

Install the latest firmware and see if you have the same problem.  I have seen 
it with beta software but not with released versions.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of ty...@wigi.us
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:22 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] M5 Rocket XM to XW issue


We have had some quirky issues similar to what you are explaining.  It seems to 
have happened on both xw and xm radios.  We use pppoe as a form of 
authentication in the cpe and the client radio will stay connected to the ap 
but they stop passing traffic and drop their pppoe connection.  I still haven't 
found a real good solution, but luckily its 2 small sites and i threw ping 
watchdog on the rocket ap to a client pppoe ip address and made that customer 
aware of it so they don't unplug during a storm for example.  Not a great 
solution but its definitely better than hopping on every time to reboot the ap.
- Original Message -
Subject: [Ubnt_users] M5 Rocket XM to XW issue
From: t...@byhalia.net
Date: 9/26/16 8:36 am
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org

I have a M5 rocket on a AMO-5G13 omni that was running XM 5.6.4 and was
running great. It just started to disconnect randomly and need a hard
reboot to reconnect the client radios (Powerbeam-M5-400). A simple power
cycle was all that was needed to get fully operational again. Happened
twice this month, so I thought it needed updated. Since it was an older
M5 I replaced it this weekend with a new M5, XW version 5.6.4.

Also, I read on a UBNT forum about running the new XW CPE's on XW AP's as
they worked better, but that is not what I am seeing. So now the AP and
all the CPE's (Powerbeam-M5-400) are on the XW version 5.64 and I am
seeing terrible signals only on my CPE's that are near the tower. The
CPE's farther away are fine, but anything less than a mile is showing
signals in the 80's and previously they were in the low 60's to 50's.
Some CPE's have perfect line of sight too.

Not sure what is causing it and hope somebody knows. At this point I'm
ready to deal with the reboots and put the old XM radio back up! Hope
somebody has a fix and I was thinking of firmware, but scared to change
too much until I troubleshoot more as I read horror stories on all the
firmware changes.

Thanks,

Troy

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Re: [Ubnt_users] POE POWERED SWITCHES

[Rory Conaway]

What about temperature?  113 degrees in is in the shade here in Phoenix and 
according to the specs, it drops to 100W at 131 which is pretty much normal for 
us, even in boxes with fans.  The DC one goes higher though, but haven’t 
checked the price.  The Netonix stuff is lasting pretty well for us.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Michael McKinsey
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 5:33 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] POE POWERED SWITCHES

Ubnt EP-R6 seems to be working very well, gigabit ports are nice and can move a 
lot of data.  A bit more expensive than the mikrotik box at closer to $110, but 
I prefer them so far.  Can also put POE out on all ports, which comes in handy.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] POE POWERED SWITCHES

[Rory Conaway]

Too bad they can't do 48v.  that would be on my next wish list.

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brian - Winters Broadband
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:28 PM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group'
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] POE POWERED SWITCHES

MikroTik RB750P-PBr2  5 port  $69

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Shawn Burgei
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:25 PM
To: Adair Winter via Members ; members-boun...@wispa.org; 
ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] POE POWERED SWITCHES

What does everyone recommend for a Poe powered switch? Outdoor obviously. 

Thanks
Shawn 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

[Rory Conaway]

We had two of the 2.4GHz Ubiquiti Omnis with issues.  One the cap on top blew 
off, bad glue.  The other one, the screws at the bottom worked their way out 
and it slid down the bracket.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 7:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

Interesting enough, I just had a KPP omni blow it's top. I've had a few UBNT's 
do it but this is the 1st KPP.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
For 2.4ghz omnis, we mostly use ARC wireless (but not 5ghz version - those are 
junk). We've also used some that I believe are the same as the KPP's, but I 
don't remember what the brand is off hand (several companies sell the same 
antennas) for both 5ghz and 2.4ghz.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Jonathan Taylor [jtay...@wisouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 9:15 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???
Which antennas do you use?

Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
jtay...@wisouth.net
(334) 595-9521

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
Yeah... I would replace it. You might be able to just take it apart and re-glue 
everything, but it's probably really not worth while.

I only remember having a similar failure on one, which also had the top cap 
come off - which I think is what caused the glue to fail, since the drain holes 
plugged up and it had a lot of water sitting in it. We haven't been using UBNT 
omnis for the last few years anyway, because there are cheaper alternatives 
that seem to be higher quality.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Josh Luthman 
[j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:17 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???
If a rain effects things like that in 2 GHz it's well past time to replace that 
thing.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Taylor 
> wrote:
Yea it is around 3-4  years old now I investigated since it seemed to take 
longer than usual for my customer signals to recover after a good rain like 
a day or so.

Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
jtay...@wisouth.net
(334) 595-9521

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Chris Fabien 
> wrote:

I just took one of these apart like this. I suspected a problem but ours was 
still operating fine. Some of the screws in the base had worked loose. The 
elements are fed by short pieces of coax so the movement does not mean a broken 
circuit board or connector or something.

The faulire mode we typically have seen on these omnis is glue failure on the 
cap, cap blows off and water gets into the antenna. It can drain out the bottom 
but over time will corrode the elements and affect performance.

With the price of these, i wpuld probably just replace it... its probably 
several years old now right?

On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor" 
> wrote:
My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't pull up 
on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I don't recall 
it doing that when i installed it.
And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.  
Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and ccq 
has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago and all 
my history is gone.



Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
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(334) 595-9521

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port

[Rory Conaway]

Thanks guys.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 7:39 AM
To: Matt Hardy; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port

OK so that is an accessory not a feature by default.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM
NLBC.COM

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:29 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port

Hey Steve,
Take a look at the bottom of page 3:

https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFI_Video_DS.pdf

I did a quick search and found a few available ...

-Matt

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Steve Barnes 
<st...@pcswin.com<mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
I have not seen that in any documentation can you point to that.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:16 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port

Yes, it does.  There's a harness connector with the port exposed.

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
I can’t find this answer anywhere.  I need to add a microphone farther away.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:49 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port

No not sure why you would want one. Its all IP based

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 10:13 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port



Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port

[Rory Conaway]

I can't find this answer anywhere.  I need to add a microphone farther away.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:49 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port

No not sure why you would want one. Its all IP based

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM
NLBC.COM

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 10:13 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port



Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 prism

[Rory Conaway]

I didn't see it in stock at Streakwave but I haven't checked anyone else.

Rory

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of G. Nicholas
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:25 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 prism

Rory,

Yes the Rocket 5AC-PTMP  does not do the 5.1 band, it has the plastic case with 
no GPS Antenna port.

Garth

- Original Message -
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: 8/2/2016 9:51:06 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 prism

> Was there a version that was limited to 5.4GHz as the lower band or has it 
> always covered the entire 5GHz band?  Does it work with N clients like the 
> Rocket 5ac-Lites?
> 
> Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
> 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
> 602-426-0542
> r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
> www.triadwireless.net<http://www.triadwireless.net/>
> 
> "There are only two seasons - winter and Baseball." - Bill Veeck
> 
> 

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[Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 prism

[Rory Conaway]

Was there a version that was limited to 5.4GHz as the lower band or has it 
always covered the entire 5GHz band?  Does it work with N clients like the 
Rocket 5ac-Lites?

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
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[Ubnt_users] Does the UVC Pro camera have an external audio port

[Rory Conaway]

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602-426-0542
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Aggregate Download Capacity Real TCP on AirMax-Mx Radios

[Rory Conaway]

The other thing you have to look at is packets per second which is probably the 
single most important factor.  For example, with the older 400MHz processors, 
somewhere around 22,000pps was pretty close to a hard limit.  With AirMax and 
64-bit packets you were limited to around 40Mbps at the AP.  Bigger packets 
could get you up around 80Mbps.  In real world scenario, 60Mbps was a pretty 
good average with good signal from most of the clients and 20MHz channels.  

With the new processors, you should see 20-50% improvement over that.

Rory

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:49 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Aggregate Download Capacity Real TCP on AirMax-Mx 
Radios

I have seen a spreadsheet on the ubnt forum that does this for airfiber5x radio 
and dishes.  You plug in the numbers for freq, dish size, etc and it provides 
signal, capacity, and fade margins, etc.

Shawn C. Peppers
Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
866-680-8433 Toll Free
480-287-9960 Fax
http://www.video-direct.tv

> On Jul 21, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Dan Parrish  wrote:
> 
> There are many, many reasons why there isn't just a simple X/Y chart 
> that shows what layer3 capacity 'Y' you can get out of your radios 
> given 'X' megahertz of bandwidth.
> 
> One that we've encountered across several platforms, and really there 
> isn't a reason why it doesn't occur on any other platform, is layer2 
> capacity being maxed while layer3 appearing to not be maxed.
> 
> Cambium, I think recently (say in the past year), started exposing 
> 'frame utilization' in their PMP450 APs under statistics. It's been my 
> experience that in our network, we're much more likely to reach frame 
> utilization issues before demodulated layer 3 capacity "adds up" to 
> what we expect from those calculations.
> 
> --danp
> 
> 
> 
>> On 07/21/2016 10:06 AM, Scott Lambert wrote:
>> What channel width?  I would guess you can get AirRate / 2 * AMC * 
>> 0.90 if your -65 signals don't have -80 to -70 noise to deal with.
>> 
>> Which band doesn't really matter.  Just the channel width and 
>> modulation rates.
>> 
>> 10MHz channel with 65/65 Mbps air rate / 2 = 32.5 Mbps * 80% AMC = a 
>> maximum of about 26 Mbps aggregate.  Then take 10% off for 
>> engineering fudge leaves 23.4 Mbps.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have many APs where my signals are all good 
>> enough to allow full modulation.
>> 
>> Our average peak for a 10MHz channel is around 10 to 13 Mbps.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:26:46AM -0500, Sam Morris wrote:
>>> We're looking for the amount of user traffic these radios are able 
>>> to pass (where these radios are APs). (The number we're trying to 
>>> learn is the cumulative amount of data X number of users are able to 
>>> concurrently pull through the AP at one time.) What is the real TCP 
>>> throughput on the
>>> following:
>>> 
>>> Rocket M900
>>> 
>>> Rocket M2
>>> 
>>> Rocket M5
>>> 
>>> I hope this isn't too ambiguous nor that it leaves too many factors 
>>> out of the equation (channel width for example). Please assume all 
>>> CPEs have
>>> -65 or better so that the AP isn't struggling to resend packets to a 
>>> CPE with a poor connection.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for any help you can offer. I did search the knowledge 
>>> base as well as the forums and didn't see a good answer. (There were 
>>> some good posts on the AC and AF-Xx platforms, but not for the 
>>> "legacy" M radios.)
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Massive Random Interference spikes on R5-AC-PTP backhaul.

[Rory Conaway]

Are you using Jirous dishes?  They work down to 5.1GHz.  Just assume you are 
losing a few dB.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of David Jones
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:40 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Massive Random Interference spikes on R5-AC-PTP 
backhaul.

what version of FW are you running?

I know that some FW had the spikes and it was interference from the client or 
AP. hence why it goes to about the same level as the signal.



On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:33 PM, > 
wrote:

Hi Phil,

Thank you.  We thought of it but would have to change antennas to do that.  
These can’t go lower than 5485 MHz.  ☹  We were hoping to avoid swaping out 
antennas if at all possible.  I’m sure you understand.

Patrick

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Phil Curnutt
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 10:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Massive Random Interference spikes on R5-AC-PTP 
backhaul.

Haven't seen anything like that, but the closest weather radar to our location 
is 50 miles away.  With that kind of signal you could try 5200GHz and get away 
from the noisy 57/5800 band.

Phil

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:37 AM, > 
wrote:

Hi,



We have a Backhaul that consists of two Airmax AC Prism (R5-AC-PTP-US).  The 
distance between the two is 9.4 miles.  It has been running beautifully for the 
last few months.  A few days ago we started experiencing interference spikes 
that completely disrupts this backhaul.  These spikes are apparently random - 
we could have two in a row within a few minutes and then nothing for an hour or 
two and again  I'm attaching 2 screenshots that show RF Performance at both 
ends of the backhaul.



We are using 5740 MHz with a 20 MHz bandwidth.

We are picking up the spike on both towers. But not all the time on the other 
tower. (see below)



We are about 150 feet below a weather radar. I am wondering if they are having 
some malfunction.

Is there a way to log the RF performance on the main page of the radio?  If so, 
with what software?

Having a log would allow us to figure out if there is any pattern to this and 
might help us figure out the source.



Here are graphs that show the spikes on both ends of the backhaul.



This first one is the tower that has the weather radar at the top.

http://community.ubnt.com/ubnt/attachments/ubnt/airMAX_AC/15193/1/BUC 
tower.JPG



http://community.ubnt.com/ubnt/attachments/ubnt/airMAX_AC/15193/2/WR  
tower.JPG



I've found several posts on spikes but those seemed to be continuous spikes, 
whereas these are random and can be closely or widely spaced apart.  Has anyone 
seen anything like this?  Anyone have any ideas?



Patrick

N.B. I’ve posted a thread on the Ubiquiti forum 
(http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-AC/Massive-Random-Interference-Spikes-R5-AC-PTP-US/m-p/1624513#M15219)
 but haven’t made much progress – hoping that someone here might have seen 
something similar.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AC2 Install

[Rory Conaway]

I thought you could do a direct upgrade and it migrates the data.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Shawn Burgei
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 1:04 PM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group'; members-boun...@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AC2 Install

I just installed AC2 Version 22 on a new server running windows server 2012. 
How can I transfer my old AC2 beta18 information that is currently running on a 
separate PC, and transfer to the new SERVER running AC2 v.22? I am having 
issues trying to upgrade the old AC2 v18 to the new AC2 v22. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Shawn

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AC2 and device(s) with outdated firmware

[Rory Conaway]

We were trying to migrate but just having trouble with the software itself.  We 
will try again today.  I'm wondering now if it AC2 Beta 22 works with the 
various versions of beta software we have running.

Rory

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tim Densmore
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:52 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AC2 and device(s) with outdated firmware

Hi Folks,

We're trying to migrate to ac2 (beta 22), and I'm running into the issue where 
ac2 refuses to begin monitoring devices with anything that has "outdated" 
firmware.  I'm trying to figure out if this is going to make the migration a 
non-starter.  Does anyone have links to info about this restriction, or what 
criteria ac2 uses to declare something "outdated"? 
I don't want to be in a situation where I'm running a firmware a revision or 
two old and can't monitor devices with that firmware.

Thanks!
Tim Densmore

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[Ubnt_users] Air Control annoyance with reconnect now

[Rory Conaway]

We are making changes with our network and sometimes we have had to use 
reconnect now.  When you do a CTRL-A to select all, and before you can select 
reconnect now, one of the radios comes back online.  Subsequently, reconnect 
now disappears as an option in the pull down menu.  Then you have to do the 
whole process again, click offline, select all.  After the 3rd or 4th time and 
you still can't get it fast enough, you wonder what the programmer was thinking 
when you select 300 devices but only 1 that is connecting and disconnecting 
stops the process.  Please leave the reconnect now option on there and just 
ignore the devices that are popping in and out on the connection.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
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Re: [Ubnt_users] High ping times with Ubiquiti AC 7.2.2.3

[Rory Conaway]

Signal level was -58.  I just checked it this morning and it settled way down 
to between 3 and 15ms.  I have to get the user to do a speed test and other 
than interference which I can’t find, I have no explanation.  Modulation levels 
last night bounced from 6x to 8x but mostly 8x.  Weird.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:26 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] High ping times with Ubiquiti AC 7.2.2.3

Screen shot!

On Jun 12, 2016, at 15:23, Faisal Imtiaz 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
The rocket AC radios have a very very very nice web interface which will pretty 
much tell you what is wrong, it takes a bit to get the hang of it...   the 
constellation, local interference, remote interference etc.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>

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To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:33:05 AM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] High ping times with Ubiquiti AC 7.2.2.3
I’ve got a user that isn’t even a few hundred feet on a Rocket 5 AC-Lite.  Most 
users on this AP can pull 50-60Mbps with no problem.  This user is getting 
2-4Mbps down and 18 up.  Ping times are all over the place to as much as 107ms. 
 We changed the radio, no difference.

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[Ubnt_users] High ping times with Ubiquiti AC 7.2.2.3

[Rory Conaway]

I've got a user that isn't even a few hundred feet on a Rocket 5 AC-Lite.  Most 
users on this AP can pull 50-60Mbps with no problem.  This user is getting 
2-4Mbps down and 18 up.  Ping times are all over the place to as much as 107ms. 
 We changed the radio, no difference.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocketm900

[Rory Conaway]

Blair, did you use RF Armor shield kits?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:32 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocketm900

 

yes.  2 omnis on different polarity's.  I doubt 2 omnis on the same
polarity would be of much use...

Tried 3 rockets on 3 sectors...  can't get enough isolation 

We do cavity filters on 2.4GHz to isolate sectors from each other...

Looked for cavity filters to make the 900MHz band into 3 8MHz channels,
never found anything useful.

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On 12/31/2014 12:25 AM, Chris Soiles wrote:

So one rocket 2 antennas?

 

Anyone doing 3 rockets and 120 sectors?

Sent from iPhone 5S



 

Chris Soiles



Owner



Rio Cities

csoi...@riocities.net mailto:csoi...@riocities.net 

505-966-6389


On Dec 30, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
wrote:

We do it with separate V-Pol and H-Pol omnis...

Some just terminate one chain with a 50ohm and run just
a V-Pol.

--

On 12/30/2014 11:50 PM, Chris Soiles wrote:

Any suggestions for getting 360 coverage with
RocketM900's

 

Chris Soiles



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Rio Cities

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[Ubnt_users] two suggestions for features

[Rory Conaway]

One the stations screen, it would be interesting to add this option

-Click the MAC address of the connected device and get the manufacturer
and the best guess on distance to the device.\

 

 

It would help to kick off next door neighbors.

 

rory

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Happy Green Friday!

[Rory Conaway]

No, that’s what it’s going to cost me with my contractors.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:21 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Happy Green Friday!

 

You charge labor for replacing bad cable?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 12, 2014 11:18 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

The gift that keeps on giving.  I’ve got about 4 more to change out at a labor 
cost of $16 per hour.

 

rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 3:49 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Happy Green Friday!

 

I'd guess it would keep working until water got on it and it froze to cause 
damage to the conductors.  Glad nothing shorted out with all that rain getting 
in there.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net 
wrote:

Yep, I removed some that looked just like that or worse (the foil was starting 
to open up in spots)

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

The jacket is almost totally gone on the cable.  It was working 100 
full on a Canopy radio right up until today when we replaced it.

 

http://i.imgur.com/D9vJrsZ.jpg


 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Rory Conaway]

Are the AC products shipping yet?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 

Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails.  You can see some some specs 
here:

 

http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf  - page 5

 

Thanks,

Ben

 

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:

Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging 
you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs 
and such?

 

On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 

Yeah, that would be expectation...

 

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing.



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From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM


Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients?

Or is it a forklift style upgrade?

--

On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote:

This is Great news!

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works.  The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz 
is following.  I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 
1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. 

 

Thanks,

Ben

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

What he said...

I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz 
also...

--

On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:

Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with 
AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. 

 

We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul 
and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! 

 

We have started looking at gps options because we have not 
heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon?

 

On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com  j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com  wrote:

 

Not an m2 lolz

On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  wrote: 

So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac 
Rockets, correct?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
wrote:

11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will 
allow you to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 
100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
mat...@litewire.net wrote:

That's what I've been assuming too... 

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards 
compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M 
series? 





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett 
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 
will be the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Rory Conaway]

I know the 500 was shipping as I was looking to move backhauls to them soon 
from the 400’s but didn’t know about the others.

 

rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:51 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 

The R5AC-LITE and PBE-5AC-500 are in channel.  The NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP and 
PBE-5AC-620 start this month...

 

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

Are the AC products shipping yet?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM


To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 

Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails.  You can see some some specs 
here:

 

http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf  - page 5

 

Thanks,

Ben

 

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:

Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging 
you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs 
and such?

 

On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 

Yeah, that would be expectation...

 

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing.



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From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM


Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients?

Or is it a forklift style upgrade?

--

On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote:

This is Great news!

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works.  The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz 
is following.  I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 
1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. 

 

Thanks,

Ben

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

What he said...

I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz 
also...

--

On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:

Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with 
AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. 

 

We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul 
and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! 

 

We have started looking at gps options because we have not 
heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon?

 

On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com  j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com  wrote:

 

Not an m2 lolz

On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  wrote: 

So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac 
Rockets, correct?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
wrote:

11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will 
allow you to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 
100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
mat...@litewire.net wrote:

That's what I've been assuming too... 

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards 
compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M 
series? 





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett 
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

I'm guessing it'll

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Rory Conaway]

Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS
like end of the first quarter of 2015?  I'm really trying to schedule
stuff but this issue is hanging me up.

 

rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 

Ben Moore via wispa.org 

3:17 PM (10 hours ago)

 

We already have these in transit.  I would expect DFS to be available on
these early next year.

 

The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. 

 

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
wrote:

I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1
and DFS?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 

Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1.  You can see current
performance with PTMP from Chuck's post.  Another should be posted
shortly.

 

There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC.

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote:

Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.

I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit.





Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
backwards compatibility.

On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
 Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
 implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot
of
 features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
 compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
 variables).

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak to the
 Backwards compatibility of the new units?

 __ __

 *Steven Barnes*

 GM

 PCSWIN.com

 Howard LLC.

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 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 __ __

 Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
 locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

 __ __

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard
mat...@litewire.net
 mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote:

 Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
 Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

 So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or
are
 there other  changes as well? 




 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore
 [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 __ __

 ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
 added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
 can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
 PTMP networks in the wild ;)

 __ __

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
 mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote:

 ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were
the
 same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
 what happens when you don't make new stuff look different
:p
 




 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike
 Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
 mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

 The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
 things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago.
I
 didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
 any different

Re: [Ubnt_users] AirControl 2 passwords

[Rory Conaway]

Reflash the units with the latest firmware.  I haven't seen this
specific issue but I've seen SSH and some other random things that get
solved this way.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of heith
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 9:02 AM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group'
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AirControl 2  passwords

 

Since we have been running AC2 earlier this year, shortly after
deployment we have had several radios that would not allow access do to
a bad password. I cannot access them via web gui nor can AC2 interface
access them. If I have a customer reboot the radio or router I can
access. I have been dealing with it for about 6 months, but I have some
gear that needs updating and it's a PITA to have the call the customer
for a reboot. Majority of our stuff has the credentials changed, but
some stuff was left default on accident, and have experienced the issue
on both scenarios. 

 

Is there a new default credential when this happens? Am I doing
something wrong? If I dump AC2 will the issue go away. I never did use
AC1, only started using AC2 for mass updates  configuration changes. I
read thru the recent threads on AC2  AC cloud, maybe I am expecting too
much for the free software

 

Thanks

Heith

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Rory Conaway]

I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 

Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1.  You can see current performance 
with PTMP from Chuck's post.  Another should be posted shortly.

 

There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC.

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote:

Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.

I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit.





Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
backwards compatibility.

On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
 Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
 implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
 features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
 compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
 variables).

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
 Backwards compatibility of the new units?

 __ __

 *Steven Barnes*

 GM

 PCSWIN.com

 Howard LLC.

 __ __

 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 __ __

 Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
 locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

 __ __

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net
 mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote:

 Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
 Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

 So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
 there other  changes as well? 

 
 

 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore
 [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 __ __

 ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
 added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
 can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
 PTMP networks in the wild ;)

 __ __

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
 mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote:

 ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
 same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
 what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
 

 
 

 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike
 Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
 mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

 The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
 things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
 didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
 any different.

 Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

 
 

 *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

[Rory Conaway]

Set the frequency list to what range you need before you reboot.

 

rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 12:09 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

 

What is it working on?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 7, 2014 2:07 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

Nope.

I did not reboot after setting country code back to US, though, as I don't want 
to strand them on an unusable 5.8 channel.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 



From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 1:01:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

The frequencies aren't listed?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 7, 2014 2:00 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

I believe that has been done.

Definitely the reboot both sides.

The DFS checkbox\fields are definitely not there.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 



From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 12:47:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

Old rocket, plug in DFS credentials for your company, reboot BOTH SIDES.  BOTH.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 7, 2014 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

I have some old Rockets (maybe 5.2.1 vintage?). I upgraded them as needed 
throughout the years. The past day or two, performance in on part of the 
network has been erratic to say the best of it.

I noticed that they were in Compliance Test mode, but didn't have the input 
boxes for the DFS stuff, so I must have entered it at one point, but never 
actually moved over. They were on 5.5.2.

Don't fuck with what works. Well, now it's not working right.

I upgrade to 5.5.4, then 5.5.10. I set the country code to US  no DFS 
channels show up on the AP.

Do I need to reboot it after setting it to US so that I can get the DFS 
channels?

A reset to defaults and starting over is kinda out of the question at the 
moment.

Any other ideas?

If I have to climb to replace radios, ePMPs are going up instead.






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Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

[Rory Conaway]

I’ve upgraded every Rocket and haven’t seen the problem.  Might be an issue 
with the RF sections failing at the perimeter.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 11:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

 

Old rocket, plug in DFS credentials for your company, reboot BOTH SIDES.  BOTH.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 7, 2014 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

I have some old Rockets (maybe 5.2.1 vintage?). I upgraded them as needed 
throughout the years. The past day or two, performance in on part of the 
network has been erratic to say the best of it.

I noticed that they were in Compliance Test mode, but didn't have the input 
boxes for the DFS stuff, so I must have entered it at one point, but never 
actually moved over. They were on 5.5.2.

Don't fuck with what works. Well, now it's not working right.

I upgrade to 5.5.4, then 5.5.10. I set the country code to US  no DFS 
channels show up on the AP.

Do I need to reboot it after setting it to US so that I can get the DFS 
channels?

A reset to defaults and starting over is kinda out of the question at the 
moment.

Any other ideas?

If I have to climb to replace radios, ePMPs are going up instead.






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Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

[Rory Conaway]

 
918-429-3620

 

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com 
wrote:

Not so easy to doif you have, like me,some bullets or air 
grids then they can not have anything  above 5.3 because you lose DFS.

 

These were not re-certified by UBNT.

 

:0

 

 

From: Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net  

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:02 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org  

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

 

Just get everything on 5.5.10.  No reason not to.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:01 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

 

We have noticed that if the SW versions don't match it will not 
work. 

 

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peoples 
dpe...@gmail.com wrote:

This is something that has been an issue since 5.5 as far as I 
know. 

On Nov 16, 2014 11:18 AM, Paul Conlin 
pcon...@blazebroadband.com wrote:

Is there a fix for this?  A workaround besides rebooting?  We 
are on 5.5.8.  Should we move up to 5.5.10?

 

PC

Blaze Broadband

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Daniel and Regina Peoples
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 8:57 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

 

This is a Feature of 5.5+ IIRC 5.3.5 didn't have this issue.




Daniel Peoples
Resonance Broadband

Resonancebroadband.com http://Resonancebroadband.com 
918-429-3620

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 7:53 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Well, 5.5.4 sucks...

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Eduardo edua...@webjogger.net 
wrote:

Is this issue related to the firmware version?

 

Eduardo

 

- Original Message - 

From: Matt Hoppes mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com  

To: Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org  

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:49 PM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

 

Reboot both radios -- there's some kind of a memory 
leak/issue.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312 

On 3/4/14, 4:48 PM, Eduardo wrote:
 I'm trying to run a speed test from a station in a 
PtP link, and got
 this message:
  
 Error: Specified device is not
 compatible for speedtest.
  
 Both radios are BulletM5 with v5.5.4. I got the same 
error when tried in
 a link with RocketM365 in both ends and v5.5.6.
  
 Also I've tried in a PtoP connection also with 
Bullets, but M2 and
 v.5.5.6 with the same result. 
  
 The issue is always running the speed test from the 
station to the AP. 
  
 Have you guys seen this issue?
  
 Any suggestions on how I can fix it.
  
 Thanks,
 Eduardo
  
 
 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Rory Conaway]

Guys, you have good points. I believe though, the problem here isn't
just the product, it's the message.  The reality is that it wouldn't
take that many more resources to finish and update AC2.  I thought it
had a bunch of bells and whistles I could have lived without and that
functionality was more important but that wasn't my call.  We fudged
through its inadequacies with the hope that upgrades were coming.
Unfortunately, the Cone of Silence from Ubiquiti on this issue after
more than a year caused me anghst.  I can see where this product works
for newcomers to the industry as a billing and CRM product.  But I do
agree that those operators that have more than a few hundred users are
going to have serious qualms about opening up their network to an
outside attack or even the possibility that there is some aspect of
security that is out of their control.  We pay a lot of money every year
for security products to protect our customers and although we are going
to test and probably startup WISPs to this product, I don't see it as a
large operational management tool specifically because of the unknown
control issue.  If Russia can hack our SCADA system, probably the North
Koreans can hack Sony, the Chinese pretty much anything they want to
including our most secured military and technical secrets, I'm a little
nervous letting some outside entity control my network.

Here is my question, if the cloud gets hacked and someone takes down my
network causing me great financial harm (kind of like Green toughcable),
who am I suing?  I know the same argument can be made for AirControl now
but that device should be behind a firewall with security at the
operating system level managed by the WISP.  The exposure is far lower.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 6:25 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

Hmmm,  I think someone is really trying hard to emulate Steve Jobs... 
He always knew what his customers _really_ needed...   Sometimes he was 
spot on...  Sometimes he tried to float bricks...  Didn't hear about
those products...

On 12/03/2014 05:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:
 Well said.

 In the alpha forums we gave them every possible combination of onsite 
 hosting that you could think of that we would be happy to use for this

 project. Virtual appliances  and an actual hardware appliances that 
 they sell were 2 that I thought would be the easiest.

 Fell on deaf ears though.

 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 3, 2014 2:38 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company.  We aren't 
 like Apple consumers.  For the most part, most of us are not buying 
 these products to jack with them at Starbucks and drink Coffee.  We
are
 out on towers, in all kinds of weather, deploying these.   No matter
the
 driving factor, the majority of these networks are here to make money.
 I, for one, have bet my house and my future on UBNT products in the 
 past.  It was no different than betting on another vendor, but I chose

 UBNT for several reasons.  Price was a factor but not the only one.

 Robert and Staff, please don't misunderstand the passion for these
folks
 being fanboys.   Sure, the inner geek in everyone wants the shiny new
 gadget.  But at the end of the day we all want to go home and be able 
 to set our thermostat at 71 instead of 50.  :-) This is about 
 providing a service and being in business.  Tools like AirControl 
 means we can do that extra install instead of having the programmer 
 spend their time figuring out how to pull data from the radio or dump 
 into some 3rd party app.  We all know monitoring and proactive 
 solutions are essential in this business.  I want to know if my 
 business customers are getting what they pay for.  If I have SLA 
 customers I want to prove to them we are living up to expectations.  
 Having that data might mean keeping them or not. A complete product
family means we have a lower TCO.

 Now, back to perception.  If I am putting my house on the line would I

 continue to do so for a company that hasn't finished a key product 
 like AC in how many years? Version 1 never was completed.  V2 is now
dead.
 What about the Mfi cloud? I want to be able to trust a company with my

 livelihood. Sure, a software product isn't the same as a working AP, 
 but it should be a key component.  In today's ISP world information is

 King.  If I have information I know when to upgrade, what customers to

 proactively fix, and how the overall health of the network is. This is

 what makes me different than Comcast.  I should be able to know 
 everything about what I have.

 If you want to 

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Rory Conaway]

I think I’d be happy if AirControl just supported all the hardware they sell 
and if the AirGateway firmware gets out of Beta before the Cubs win the World 
Series.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 

true... I don't care if it's there either, but if they for some reason think 
the billing stuff needs to be kept on their servers where it's safe from our 
meddling, I'd be perfectly happy if they just cut it all out and let us have 
the useful part.



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:06 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

As long as they aren't dependent on each other (which I believe they already 
said), they don't have to remove billing. Keep it there for all I care, just 
let me install it locally.



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From: Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:03:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

It doesn't seem like it should be all that complicated to just remove the 
billing parts and let us have the rest to run on our own servers...



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:43 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

*nods* I'll gladly take airCRM and load it on my existing on-net server and 
just not use the billing aspect.



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From: Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:41:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 

Don't get me wrong.  I would love it if the product works as advertised.  But 
as with the unifi software.  Allow me to load it on my server.  That is all I 
ask for.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Daniel Peoples mailto:dpe...@gmail.com  

To: Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org  

Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:13 AM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 

Sorry, my brain works in mysterious ways(at least that's what my wife 
tells me). 

What I'm trying to say is let them take a stab at this, and objectively 
judge the final product. They might accidentally get it right. At worst, when 
it comes out of beta and doesn't work, don't use it and if enough folks do the 
same, they won't mess with it, it will be depreciated and the team that makes 
it will be re-assigned. 
Also, from the security standpoint I'm just saying that it won't be any 
more insecure than any other solution, just because it is a cloud based 
offering. 

Someone also made a comment that I interrupted as cambium could do it 
better, to which I was just saying YES THEY CAN, because they have the 
additional financial assistance of a upscale ap/cpe combination to support it.




Daniel Peoples
Resonance Broadband

Resonancebroadband.com http://Resonancebroadband.com 
918-429-3620

 

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Mike Hammett 
wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

You've completely lost me.



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From: Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:57:46 AM 


Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

The revenue of the epmp line doesn't support much. 

And actually, how much DOES cambium make off those things?




Daniel Peoples
Resonance Broadband

Resonancebroadband.com http://Resonancebroadband.com 
918-429-3620

 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Quick question on XM XW firmwares

[Rory Conaway]

Make sure they are in the same subnet also.  For some reason, if two radios are 
in different subnets, even if they are in bridge mode, they won’t connect.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Eduardo
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 5:00 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Quick question on XM  XW firmwares

 

I have the radios configured with same SSID, channel width, AirMax and WDS are 
enabled; I have tried DFS and the 5735-5840 frequencies and still can't make 
them associate each other.

 

Am I missing something?

 

- Original Message - 

From: Chris Ruschmann mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net  

To: Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org  

Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Quick question on XM  XW firmwares

 

You can associate an XM with an XW and vice versa. I have this setup 
all over my  network.

 

What you can’t do is associate an XW nano beam with an XM or XW UBNT 
device in the DFS Range as nano beams don’t support DFS, but legacy gear does.

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eduardo
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:11 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Quick question on XM  XW firmwares

 

I have a NSlocoM5 with XW firmware and need it to associate with an 
NSM5-AP that has XM firmware.

 

Has someone ever tried to change a XW firmware for a XM firmware in a 
NSlocoM5?

 

Eduardo

 

 





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Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

[Rory Conaway]

Just get everything on 5.5.10.  No reason not to.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:01 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

 

We have noticed that if the SW versions don't match it will not work. 

 

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com
wrote:

This is something that has been an issue since 5.5 as far as I know. 

On Nov 16, 2014 11:18 AM, Paul Conlin pcon...@blazebroadband.com
wrote:

Is there a fix for this?  A workaround besides rebooting?  We are on
5.5.8.  Should we move up to 5.5.10?

 

PC

Blaze Broadband

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Daniel and Regina Peoples
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 8:57 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

 

This is a Feature of 5.5+ IIRC 5.3.5 didn't have this issue.




Daniel Peoples
Resonance Broadband

Resonancebroadband.com http://Resonancebroadband.com 
918-429-3620

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 7:53 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, 5.5.4 sucks...

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Eduardo edua...@webjogger.net wrote:

Is this issue related to the firmware version?

 

Eduardo

 

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From: Matt Hoppes mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com  

To: Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org  

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:49 PM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

 

Reboot both radios -- there's some kind of a memory leak/issue.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312 

On 3/4/14, 4:48 PM, Eduardo wrote:
 I'm trying to run a speed test from a station in a PtP link,
and got
 this message:
  
 Error: Specified device is not
 compatible for speedtest.
  
 Both radios are BulletM5 with v5.5.4. I got the same error
when tried in
 a link with RocketM365 in both ends and v5.5.6.
  
 Also I've tried in a PtoP connection also with Bullets, but M2
and
 v.5.5.6 with the same result. 
  
 The issue is always running the speed test from the station to
the AP. 
  
 Have you guys seen this issue?
  
 Any suggestions on how I can fix it.
  
 Thanks,
 Eduardo
  
 
 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket AC Multi Point

[Rory Conaway]

Does PTMP work with legacy 802.11n radios?

 

The interesting thing to me is the airview support without breaking the 
wireless connection.  Does that mean that dynamic frequency scanning can be 
added later?

 

Rory 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Dudgeon
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:38 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket AC Multi Point

 

I'm just going to leave this here (for those who haven't noticed)..

 

http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Beta-Blog/airOS-v7-1-Beta3-released/ba-p/1097483

 

 

 

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

Thank you.

I've had to move to channel filters on 24GHz to keep it workable.

I'd love to see Air Beam in 2.4GHz as well.  That with AirPrizm could restore 
2.4GHz to usability for others...

--

 

On 10/27/2014 9:23 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

Met my quota for answers today :)

 

Yes, this is also something we are looking to offer in 2.4ghz.  Similar 
to what we have in UAP-Outdoor+.

Thanks, 

Ben


On Oct 27, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

Since you are talking, how about AirPrizm for 2.4GHz?

--



On 10/27/2014 6:40 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

There are definitely more limitations with 2.4GHz...but 
there are some performance benefits you can get out of it still...

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Rory Conaway 
r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

Your  answer posted at the same time.  Is my analysis 
correct?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 3:31 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket AC Multi Point

 

Nothing yet...But it is something we are working on.

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Phil Curnutt 
pcurn...@gmail.com wrote:

How about 2.4 GHz in the ac?

Phil

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ben Moore 
ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

The R5AC-Lite (previously R5AC-PTP-Lite) will also 
support PTMP with software update.  There will then be additional hardware that 
will have airPrism built in.

 

Will provide an update in next few days as to release 
timeframe.

 

Thanks,

Ben

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.com wrote:

Alex I am not sure this is just going to be 
software only.  It thought it was a whole new Unit optimized for PtMP. 

 

Steven Barnes

GM

PCSWIN.com

Howard LLC.

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of alex phillips
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 1:26 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket AC Multi Point

 

Anyone have any idea when the Multi Point 
Software will be available?

 




 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

[Rory Conaway]

So then are any of the Rockets getting the new processors other than the  
Titaniums?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:21 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

http://bit.ly/1zI4lvh



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From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:52:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

They should call all of the XW products Mk2's. That's how ironman labels all 
his stuff.

They need snazy stickers on the boxes that talk about the faster! new and 
improved! products.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 11/10/2014 03:43 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

It does. anything with XW firmware on it is going to have the newer, 
faster processor.



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on 
behalf of Rory Conaway [r...@triadwireless.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 5:47 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

Right now everything talks to everyone else.  I’m just trying to figure 
out if the NS5ML has the newer, faster, processor.

 

Rory

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:39 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

So then, what version of firmware is needed on my XM AP's to talk with 
XW clients?

Are there limits on XM AP's talking to mixed XM, XW and legacy 4.02 
clients?

--

On 11/10/2014 6:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yup.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Nov 10, 2014 6:30 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net 
wrote:

Isn't the XW for one CPU and the XM for a different CPU?

--

On 11/10/2014 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

It's a free upgrade essentially.  They didn't want to 
make a new product since they sell a couple dozen of them every month.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 10, 2014 6:03 PM, Rory Conaway 
r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

I’m trying to figure out why they use XW firmware when 
other nanostations use xm firmware.  If they have faster processors, that’s 
important for network design.

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:49 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M 
Locos?

 

oh... yeah, I read that wrong. 

don't mind me, my brain is slightly non-functional 
today...
 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett 
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:47 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M 
Locos?

I think that's what Rory was saying.



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From: Mathew Howard mat

Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

[Rory Conaway]

So, does that mean we get Titanium performance at Rocket prices?  What
is the build code on the radio?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:06 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

Yep, the last normal Rocket M5's I got are XW.
 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
behalf of Rory Conaway [r...@triadwireless.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:53 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

So then are any of the Rockets getting the new processors other than the
Titaniums?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:21 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

http://bit.ly/1zI4lvh



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From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:52:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

They should call all of the XW products Mk2's. That's how ironman labels
all his stuff.

They need snazy stickers on the boxes that talk about the faster! new
and improved! products.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 11/10/2014 03:43 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

It does. anything with XW firmware on it is going to have the
newer, faster processor.



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Rory Conaway
[r...@triadwireless.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 5:47 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

Right now everything talks to everyone else.  I'm just trying to
figure out if the NS5ML has the newer, faster, processor.

 

Rory

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:39 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

So then, what version of firmware is needed on my XM AP's to
talk with XW clients?

Are there limits on XM AP's talking to mixed XM, XW and legacy
4.02 clients?

--

On 11/10/2014 6:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yup.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 10, 2014 6:30 PM, Blair Davis
the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

Isn't the XW for one CPU and the XM for a different CPU?

--

On 11/10/2014 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

It's a free upgrade essentially.  They didn't
want to make a new product since they sell a couple dozen of them every
month.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 10, 2014 6:03 PM, Rory Conaway
r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

I'm trying to figure out why they use XW
firmware when other nanostations use xm firmware.  If they have faster
processors, that's important for network design.

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:49 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on
Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

oh... yeah, I read that wrong. 

don't mind me, my brain is slightly
non-functional today...
 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:47 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on
Nanostation

Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

[Rory Conaway]

I'm trying to figure out why they use XW firmware when other
nanostations use xm firmware.  If they have faster processors, that's
important for network design.

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:49 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

oh... yeah, I read that wrong. 

don't mind me, my brain is slightly non-functional today...
 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:47 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

I think that's what Rory was saying.



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From: Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:42:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

I'm pretty sure the XW Locos/NanoStations and Rockets already support
DFS... it's just the NanoBeam/PowerBeam that doesn't.
 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
behalf of Rory Conaway [r...@triadwireless.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 6:51 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

We can't use them yet until DFS, all our APs are there.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:48 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

We haven't received any XW locos/nanos/nanobridges/rockets yet, except
for RocketM5-Ti XW's.

Our nanobeams that we have as CPEs are working just fine with RocketM5
APs. No low rates, good ccq, no WDS problems. Running 5.5.9 on the
nanobeams, and 5.5.8 or 5.5.10 on the RocketM5's.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 11/09/2014 03:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yes and Ubnt APs.  Nsm5 I think was our problem.  Replaced with
a beam5 and I could bridge again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 9, 2014 7:27 PM, Adair Winter
ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

WDS issues with non ubiquiti ap's?

 

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Probably since the Nanobeams definitely have WDS issues.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
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On Nov 9, 2014 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett
wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

Any issues on the new hardware inside the old models?



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From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:18:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

Just had that happen on a RocketM5. I can't keep up. 


On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Rory Conaway
r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

Can I assume that all the NS5M Locos now have the same
processors as the Nanobeams?  They are coming preloaded with XW
firmware.  Very confusing.

 

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
4226 S. 37th Street
Phoenix, Az.  85040
602-426-0542
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Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

[Rory Conaway]

Right now everything talks to everyone else.  I'm just trying to figure
out if the NS5ML has the newer, faster, processor.

 

Rory

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:39 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

So then, what version of firmware is needed on my XM AP's to talk with
XW clients?

Are there limits on XM AP's talking to mixed XM, XW and legacy 4.02
clients?

--

On 11/10/2014 6:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yup.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 10, 2014 6:30 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
wrote:

Isn't the XW for one CPU and the XM for a different CPU?

--

On 11/10/2014 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

It's a free upgrade essentially.  They didn't want to
make a new product since they sell a couple dozen of them every month.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 10, 2014 6:03 PM, Rory Conaway
r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

I'm trying to figure out why they use XW firmware when
other nanostations use xm firmware.  If they have faster processors,
that's important for network design.

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:49 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M
Locos?

 

oh... yeah, I read that wrong. 

don't mind me, my brain is slightly non-functional
today...
 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:47 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M
Locos?

I think that's what Rory was saying.



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From: Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:42:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M
Locos?

I'm pretty sure the XW Locos/NanoStations and Rockets
already support DFS... it's just the NanoBeam/PowerBeam that doesn't.
 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Rory Conaway
[r...@triadwireless.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 6:51 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M
Locos?

We can't use them yet until DFS, all our APs are there.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:48 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M
Locos?

 

We haven't received any XW
locos/nanos/nanobridges/rockets yet, except for RocketM5-Ti XW's.

Our nanobeams that we have as CPEs are working just fine
with RocketM5 APs. No low rates, good ccq, no WDS problems. Running
5.5.9 on the nanobeams, and 5.5.8 or 5.5.10 on the RocketM5's.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 11/09/2014 03:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yes and Ubnt APs.  Nsm5 I think was our problem.
Replaced with a beam5 and I could bridge again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 9, 2014 7:27 PM, Adair

Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

[Rory Conaway]

We can't use them yet until DFS, all our APs are there.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:48 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

 

We haven't received any XW locos/nanos/nanobridges/rockets yet, except
for RocketM5-Ti XW's.

Our nanobeams that we have as CPEs are working just fine with RocketM5
APs. No low rates, good ccq, no WDS problems. Running 5.5.9 on the
nanobeams, and 5.5.8 or 5.5.10 on the RocketM5's.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 11/09/2014 03:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yes and Ubnt APs.  Nsm5 I think was our problem.  Replaced with
a beam5 and I could bridge again.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Nov 9, 2014 7:27 PM, Adair Winter
ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

WDS issues with non ubiquiti ap's?

 

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Probably since the Nanobeams definitely have WDS issues.

Josh Luthman
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On Nov 9, 2014 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett
wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

Any issues on the new hardware inside the old models?



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From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:18:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

Just had that happen on a RocketM5. I can't keep up. 


On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Rory Conaway
r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

Can I assume that all the NS5M Locos now have the same
processors as the Nanobeams?  They are coming preloaded with XW
firmware.  Very confusing.

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

[Rory Conaway]

With the Rocket GPS, I agree.  The should have publicly offered to buy every 
single unit back.  I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the crappy melt in the 
sun cable that I have to RMA.  With this situation though, part of it was 
Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the inefficiency of 
government in general.  Holding an entire industry back for months at a time is 
another example why other countries out-manufacture us and our politicians are 
inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this to happen.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future promises and we 
had to pay a premium to get the equipment early without the needed features.

On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
 Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance.  The lack of any real answers from 
 Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace that development of this product 
 line goes at,...  Internally I kid with myself (only have jokingly) that 
 Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti does.  Each of 
 their releases have significant updates as well.


 Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net )
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 - Original Message -
 From: Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
 To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

 Tone down the hysteria guys.  The FCC certifies manufacturers in batch.
 When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an issue, all their 
 radios went to the back of the line.  That included the Powerbeam.
 That's the delay.  But yes, the PowerBridge not getting certified 
 totally sucked.  I've got a bunch of them.

 Rory

 -Original Message-
 From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Paul
 Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM
 To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

 So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt equipment of 
 notting getting what was promised and expected unless it is already 
 there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word?
 I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling very much like 
 a partner anymore!


 On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
 On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote:
 So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have already bought 
 will not certify because of hardware problems?

 No, he said they have a history of not certifying everything and thus 
 a risk of such a situation. The PowerBridge M5 for example.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

[Rory Conaway]

I just explained what happened. 

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:55 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

 

I assume that due to the sensitive nature of the DFS certifications, they're 
not changing anything on those products until the DFS is complete.



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From: Paul pmcn...@cameron.net
To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:51:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

But I assumed, and was wrong that UNII-1 would be a simple permissive form 
filing
which later turned into a full DFS certification required for ubnt for some 
reason. 
DFS, I understand but most other companies had the permissive change made
in June when allowed.


On 11/2/2014 8:44 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on Nanobeam 
guys? Got a firm date you can commit to? 

My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody 
wants to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting stuck with half a 
container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So I'm faced with a long 
backorder on a product I need or play the old ubnt scramble to find someone 
with a few boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a waste of time 
an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from a random supplier and 
shipping it across the country. 





 

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net 
wrote:

Look, Ben and Matt are on this board.  If you have a complaint, tell 
them directly and give them a chance to make it right.  If they don't, then 
make that public.  The manufacturer should be liable to defective products, no 
question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the customer, especially 
not in a small and public community like this.   As for the DFS channels, I'm 
sure that will get resolved and there was enough information around that you 
should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't going to happen soon.  
But this is a small problem compared to the cable and Rocket GPS.  In those 
cases, the product either didn't deliver what it was supposed to or simply fell 
apart.  Different situation.

 Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap and time 
to replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable to use.


On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
 With the Rocket GPS, I agree.  The should have publicly offered to 
buy every single unit back.  I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the crappy melt 
in the sun cable that I have to RMA.  With this situation though, part of it 
was Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the inefficiency of 
government in general.  Holding an entire industry back for months at a time is 
another example why other countries out-manufacture us and our politicians are 
inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this to happen.

 Rory

 -Original Message-
 From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul
 Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM
 To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

 It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future promises 
and we had to pay a premium to get the equipment early without the needed 
features.

 On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
 Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance.  The lack of any real 
answers from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace that development of 
this product line goes at,...  Internally I kid with myself (only have 
jokingly) that Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti does.  
Each of their releases have significant updates as well.


 Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net )
 Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
 (920) 452-0455 tel:%28920%29%20452-0455  – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 (888) 489-9995 tel:%2%29%20489-9995  – Other areas, toll-free

 - Original Message -
 From: Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
 To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

 Tone down the hysteria guys.  The FCC

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 AC trial was a bust.....

[Rory Conaway]

Sort of.  We are moving all our APs off 5.8GHz now to only use it for our 
backhauls with the PowerBeams. 

 

My suggestion if you can, is hold tight until either Ubiquiti get DFS, go AF5, 
use Cambium, or wait for Mimosa.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tim Kerns
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 1:44 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 AC trial was a bust.

 

Yes, I agree   

 

My point, which I did poorly of bringing out, was, in its present state, the 
5AC is not very use full because of its limited freq band. And it doesn’t seem 
to handle noise as well as the 5M

 

 

 

From: Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net  

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 1:22 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org  

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 AC trial was a bust.

 

Tim, you don’t have an apples to oranges comparison.  Since your 5.8GHz band is 
clearly screwed up, you are going to have to wait until DFS becomes available 
to find out the actual difference.

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tim Kerns
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 1:06 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 AC trial was a bust.

 

But the Rocket AC5 can not be used in DS space

 

From: Mike Hammett mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net  

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 1:01 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org  

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 AC trial was a bust.

 

:-\

I use DFS space for most of my backhauls where that space is available.



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From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 2:58:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 AC trial was a bust.

Haven't really tried or needed to...I think we're limited to 20mhz anyway 
because of interference on both sides.

 

Regards,
Chuck

 

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

How stable have they been at larger channel sizes?



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From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 2:56:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 AC trial was a bust. 

 

The RocketAC PtP Lites for us have been relatively stable...130Mbit in a 20mhz 
channel.  We're almost at 6 miles.

 

Regards,
Chuck

 

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

You should have had -55 at that distance with 2' dishes.



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From: Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 1:22:48 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 5 AC trial was a bust. 

 

My first try at using the Rocket 5AC has ended with going back to the Rocket 5M 
after less than 2 weeks...

 

The link was at 11.9 miles, with 2 foot dishes on each end.

 

The signal was mid 60’s, the link would start at 6x and creep down to 1x. kick 
the station and it would again start at 6x but again go to 1x.

 

Thought maybe  bad radio, replaced both ends and the same.

 

Performance also was terrible with only 30-40 megs udp using 2 Mtk 2011’s on 
each end for test  . Put back the Rocket 5M’s, performance has returned.

 

I believe that trying to use these in only the 5.7 – 8.4 is not going to work 
in my area. Using another rocket and doing AirView I thought I would have 
enough spectrum.

 

The difference was the channels used. The Rocket 5M is on 5500 and the Rocket 
5AC was 5.735 and 5.82... I did try others but these were the best.

 

Tim

 

 

 

 

 

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