Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

Just for closure, I returned a few days ago from holiday to find the
replacement Pi from PiHut (who handled the exchange with speed and
minimal fuss), booted it up with the previously configured SD card, and
all seems well and stable. It has been playing without issue for three
or four days now, so I think we're home. Thanks for all the patience and
help in getting there. You're all great.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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@THEMICKSA

Pi Hut are pretty good

They have replaced a couple or so rpi 4b for me.

They have even replaced replacements that have failed :rolleyes:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28=58151#p1485558

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Where did "hw:CARD=Audio,DEV=0" come from?
> 
> Should be "hw:CARD=E30,DEV=0". Are you clicking on the list under the
> "more> help" to select it?
> 
> Deleting the "Output setting" field means ALSA will use the default
> settings (ie CARD=0,DEV=0) which may be OK, but depending on your RPi
> and setup, it might default to the Headphones or HDMI output.

I'm pretty sure I used the correct string in the Output Settings but
managed to copy and paste the wrong one in my msg. For the last
successful effort I was using -front:CARD=E30,DEV=0- as suggested by
@Man in a van.  

All a bit beside the point now as the Pi appears to be dead. After a
good few hours last night of playing, the music just stopped and I've
not been able to boot it at all. On restart I was getting a red light
followed by three maybe four green flashes. I tried reformatting and
re-flashing the card with the PCP OS and now I'm getting eight green
flashes followed by nothing--I gather that's serious. I've asked PiHut
about exchanging the Pi. All being well I'll be able give it another go
then. Thanks for all the support.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[Greg Erskine]

themicksa wrote: 
> OK, so I unplugged USB signal and power to DAC and deleted that
> hw:CARD=Audio,DEV=0 string in Output Settings, saved it with the field
> blank and then rebooted. And now things seem to be working properly.
> It's been playing for 30 mins or so and I'll leave it playing for a few
> hours just to be sure.
> 
> I'm not really sure how the output settings affect the DAC. Am I l
> likely to notice the difference or run into other issues if they are not
> set?

Where did "hw:CARD=Audio,DEV=0" come from?

Should be "hw:CARD=E30,DEV=0". Are you clicking on the list under the
"more> help" to select it?

Deleting the "Output setting" field means ALSA will use the default
settings (ie CARD=0,DEV=0) which may be OK, but depending on your RPi
and setup, it might default to the Headphones or HDMI output.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[Greg Erskine]

I wonder why my E30 works perfectly?

I only bought it for testing/developing USB DACs on pCP but
unfortunately I set it to DAC mode, set pCP up in a couple of minutes,
and it has worked ever since.

I have only ever used pCP8 betas and pCP8.0.0.

I wonder if its the E30 firmware.

I would recommend stop using the E30 remote.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

Man in a van wrote: 
> @THEMICKSA
> 
> have you tried 
> 
> front:CARD=E30,DEV=0

I hadn't but I am trying it now. I've rebooted, added that and saved it.
LMS is playing now and I'll be sure to let you know if and when it stops
again. Fingers crossed.
thx



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[Man in a van]

@THEMICKSA
have you tried 

front:CARD=E30,DEV=0



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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themicksa wrote: 
> You mean the Resize FS option? Yes I did, following advice from
> elsewhere. To 100% I think. After a reboot I find the following there:
> Resize partition 2 (PCP_ROOT)
> WARNING: Partition can not be expanded (only 100 MB left).
> 
> also 
> 
> Add partition 3 (PCP_DATA)
> It is NOT recommended adding partition 3 to your SD Card   more>
> 
> WARNING: Partition 3 can not be added insufficient free space (only 100
> MB left).
> 
> Could that be a mistake on my part? I presumed it just meant devoting
> the entire SD card (32gb I think) to the business of running pCP. Right
> now I don't see any way there of downsizing it again.

no mistake. expanding to 100% is perfectly ok (that's what I do).  And
the message you are getting is correct (can't expand any larger after
100%).  And once expanded, one cannot downsize the card.   So all is as
expected and OK.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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themicksa wrote: 
> You mean the Resize FS option? Yes I did, following advice from
> elsewhere. To 100% I think. After a reboot I find the following there:
> Resize partition 2 (PCP_ROOT)
> WARNING: Partition can not be expanded (only 100 MB left).
> 
> Could that be a mistake on my part? I presumed it just meant devoting
> the entire SD card (32gb I think) to the business of running pCP. Right
> now I don't see any way there of downsizing it again.That is fine.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

slartibartfast wrote: 
> Just a thought, have you expanded the file system?
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

You mean the Resize FS option? Yes I did, following advice from
elsewhere. To 100% I think. After a reboot I find the following there:
Resize partition 2 (PCP_ROOT)
WARNING: Partition can not be expanded (only 100 MB left).

Could that be a mistake on my part? I presumed it just meant devoting
the entire SD card (32gb I think) to the business of running pCP. Right
now I don't see any way there of downsizing it again.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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themicksa wrote: 
> Unfortunately I'm not out of the woods. The music just stopped after an
> hour or so and I can't reach the pCP home page again so I guess the pi
> has fallen over once more. A scan of the network finds both instances of
> the Pi still there*, but the router shows them as off-line. If I reboot
> is there likely to be any evidence in the logs of when and why? 
> Frustrating.
> 
> * correction they've disappeared nowJust a thought, have you expanded the 
> file system?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

Unfortunately I'm not out of the woods. The music just stopped after an
hour or so and I can't reach the pCP home page again so I guess the pi
has fallen over once more. A scan of the network finds both instances of
the Pi still there, but the router shows them as off-line. If I reboot
is there likely to be any evidence in the logs of when and why? 
Frustrating.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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themicksa wrote: 
> yes USB2. Do the USB3 ones have any purpose in this scenario?

No. It is a waste of the USB3 socket to occupy it with a DAC. You don't
need the throughput and some have reported issues using it for this
purpose.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

d6jg wrote: 
> Are you connecting the Topping via USB3 or USB2? 
> 
> IIRC USB2 is the recommended option for a DAC

yes USB2. Do the USB3 ones have any purpose in this scenario?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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Are you connecting the Topping via USB3 or USB2? 

IIRC USB2 is the recommended option for a DAC



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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themicksa wrote: 
> yes that's the one. 
> 
> The E30 goes into standby mode after a minute or so of quiet. Can the pi
> wake it up?Are you saying that after using the player the DAC goes into 
> standby
automatically? When I set up pCP with the E30 DAC it wouldn't go into
standby at all until I added a udev rule.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> The "Add a Topping E30 USB DAC" topic was written by me and is what I
> have done on my system. It's been working perfect for me.
> 
> The E30 needs to be powered before pCP starts. There is no automatic USB
> detection of the DAC. That's why I power it via the RPi4B USB.
> 
> Once the E30 was configured, I haven't needed to use the E30 remote
> control.
> 
> 
> 
> Is it this the PSU?
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/type-c-power-supply/

yes that's the one. 

The E30 goes into standby mode after a minute or so of quiet. Can the pi
wake it up?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[Greg Erskine]

The "Add a Topping E30 USB DAC" topic was written by me and is what I
have done on my system. It's been working perfect for me.

The E30 needs to be powered before pCP starts. There is no automatic USB
detection of the DAC. That's why I power it via the RPi4B USB.

Once the E30 was configured, I haven't needed to use the E30 remote
control.

> Yep, I'm also using the power supply that came with the 4B.

Is it this the PSU?
https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/type-c-power-supply/



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Are you using your E30 remote (to turn it off)?
> 
> Are you running your E30 in preamp or DAC mode?
> 
> I power my E30 from my RPi4B with the official power supply and I have
> never had a lockup.

Thanks for the questions:

I've used both remote and manual means of controlling the E30. Is there
a potential issue with that one way or another?

I'm in DAC mode.

Yep, I'm also using the power supply that came with the 4B.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

paul- wrote: 
> Are you providing separate power to the Topping?  Do not try to power
> this from the Pi's USB ports.  If you are supplying a separate power
> feed from a separate power supply, then this would have no impact on the
> PI.   If you are powering the E30 from the pi, voltage issues would most
> definitely cause the pi4 to crash.
> 
> 
> 
> Pi4's should not crash if they overheat.they have an internal
> throttle mechanism for thermal management.   You can monitor your pi4
> temperature from the pCP interface.  Beta Mode/ Extras -> CPU Temp

My first attempt was with the Pi's USB port. But suspecting that might
be an issue, subsequent efforts have all been with the E30 powered
separately.

That said, the advice at the Topping setup page
(https://docs.picoreplayer.org/projects/add-topping-e30-usb-dac/)
suggests otherwise:
"Step 4 - Connect Topping E30 USB DAC
Connect the 2 USB cables (supplied) from the Raspberry Pi USB2 ports to
Topping E30"

On temperature, good to know that overheating shouldn't be an issue for
now.

As of now, if I connect pi without the USB cable output to E30, it will
start, with IPs for both LAN and wifi visible on the network, but
Squeezelite will not run. Is that because the Output Settings for the
E30 are reading hw:CARD=E30,DEV=0. i.e Squeezelite finds no device and
can't load?

If I start up with everything connected, the music flows for a few
minutes then stops and the Pi disappears from the network entirely.

Might there still be issues with IP addresses? I've set no static IPs,
but maybe that would make a difference?

Throughout the process I have left the pi connected via Ethernet
directly to the router? Is that correct procedure?

Any logs I can consult or forward that might suggest the problem?

thx



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[Greg Erskine]

Are you using your E30 remote (to turn it off)?

Are you running your E30 in preamp or DAC mode?

I power my E30 from my RPi4B with the official power supply and I have
never had a lockup.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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themicksa wrote: 
> OK, so I'm back again sorry to say. Not a pCP problem this time, so
> maybe I should take this elsewhere. As I mentioned previously, I just
> got a new DAC (a Topping E30) and I set it up as per the instructions
> here https://docs.picoreplayer.org/projects/add-topping-e30-usb-dac/. It
> sounds fabulous, and a great upgrade for me, but I've had repeated
> crashes. To be fair I've been cranking up the volume but after ten
> minutes or so nothing. 

Are you providing separate power to the Topping?  Do not try to power
this from the Pi's USB ports.  If you are supplying a separate power
feed from a separate power supply, then this would have no impact on the
PI.   If you are powering the E30 from the pi, voltage issues would most
definitely cause the pi4 to crash.

themicksa wrote: 
> 
> So I'm wondering if overheating is the issue as I've read that pis (in
> this case a 4B) are prone to that. I'm happy to buy a suitable fan or
> heatsink to resolve the issue but wanted to check that overheating is
> indeed the issue here--it's been running at a lower volume for quite a
> while now and hasn't yet crashed again. But there are days when you
> wanna party, you know!

Pi4's should not crash if they overheat.they have an internal
throttle mechanism for thermal management.   You can monitor your pi4
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

OK, so I'm back again sorry to say. Not a pCP problem this time, so
maybe I should take this elsewhere. As I mentioned previously, I just
got a new DAC (a Topping E30) and I set it up as per the instructions
here https://docs.picoreplayer.org/projects/add-topping-e30-usb-dac/. It
sounds fabulous, and a great upgrade for me, but I've had repeated
crashes. To be fair I've been cranking up the volume but after ten
minutes or so nothing. So I'm wondering if overheating is the issue as
I've read that pis (in this case a 4B) are prone to that. I'm happy to
buy a suitable fan or heatsink to resolve the issue but wanted to check
that overheating is indeed the issue here--it's been running at a lower
volume for quite a while now and hasn't yet crashed again. But there are
days when you wanna party, you know!

So, to be specific, is it possible to verify the issue, through
diagnostics or otherwise? Do pis just crash when they get too hot? And
if so, any recommendations for the best solution? My setup is simple: pi
> Topping dac > my venerable NAD 3020. Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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Likely that means you had some special characters in the ssid or
password.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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paul- wrote: 
> So you are connected with Ethernet, but trying to switch to WiFi?
> 
> What do you get when you run diagnostics on the WiFi page?
> 
> Did wifi work before, with the linksys router?

Pleased to say we're back in business. In the end I went back to page
one and reinstalled pCP and, following your previous guidance, both IPs
showed up immediately as did the NAS. The only difference this time is I
created a simple custom /wpa_supplicant.conf. I've no idea if that made
the difference. Thanks one and all.



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So you are connected with Ethernet, but trying to switch to WiFi?

What do you get when you run wifi diagnostics?

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d6jg wrote: 
> Did you give the pi a fixed IP? If so undo that for now

Is a "fixed IP" the same as Static address? Either way, no is the
answer. There is a facility on the router to "reserve" IP addresses but
I have not added the pi to that list yet.



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themicksa wrote: 
> I spoke too soon. Everything was playing nicely until suddenly the music
> died. After a bit more fiddling around I discovered that my Linksys
> router was misbehaving. After various resets etc. it turned out it was
> actually bricked, and following a long session with Linksys support the
> firmware was upgraded and wifi was restored. However when I come to run
> pCP I find that I'm unable to connect to wifi. 
> 
> The IP addresses of everything in the house got changed in the process
> but I can see the pCP page at its new home on the network. I've
> faithfully followed the instructions at
> https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/setup_wifi/ but it keeps resulting
> in the message Wifi IP: is missing - [Reboot] or [Save] to connect. The
> router can see the wifi pi (with a different MAC address from the
> ethernet one) but I'm stumped as to how to continue. I've checked and
> rechecked the SSID, pwd etc. but to no avail. I've even consulted the
> boot and wifi logs but can't really understand what I'm seeing. If it
> would help to post any of that I'm happy to do so. Can anyone suggest a
> solution?

Did you give the pi a fixed IP? If so undo that for now



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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themicksa wrote: 
> Thanks for that. I spent most of yesterday ripping apart my hifi system,
> router and ethernet, then reassembled everything, applied the above
> fixes and everything is ticketyboo. Much cleaner and tidier with
> redundant servers gone and so far everything seems stable. As we all
> deserve a reward I'm going to treat myself to a new DAC and hit the pCP
> Payal button. Much obliged to you all.

I spoke too soon. Everything was playing nicely until suddenly the music
died. After a bit more fiddling around I discovered that my Linksys
router was misbehaving. After various resets etc. it turned out it was
actually bricked, and following a long session with Linksys support the
firmware was upgraded and wifi was restored. However when I come to run
pCP I find that I'm unable to connect to wifi. 

The IP addresses of everything in the house got changed in the process
but I can see the pCP page at its new home on the network. I've
faithfully followed the instructions at
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/setup_wifi/ but it keeps resulting
in the message Wifi IP: is missing - [Reboot] or [Save] to connect. The
router can see the wifi pi (with a different MAC address from the
ethernet one) but I'm stumped as to how to continue. I've checked and
rechecked the SSID, pwd etc. but to no avail. I've even consulted the
boot and wifi logs but can't really understand what I'm seeing. If it
would help to post any of that I'm happy to do so. Can anyone suggest a
solution?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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d6jg wrote: 
> VB 2.3 
> 
> I was slightly out
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > systemctl status squeezeboxserver
  > 
  > systemctl start squeezeboxserver
  > 
  > systemctl stop squeezeboxserver

> > 
> 
> If you then reboot the VB LMS (squeezeboxserver) will start itself
> until you remove it altogether but don't do that until the pCP LMS is
> fully up and running with all your players connected.

Thanks for that. I spent most of yesterday ripping apart my hifi system,
router and ethernet, then reassembled everything, applied the above
fixes and everything is ticketyboo. Much cleaner and tidier with
redundant servers gone and so far everything seems stable. As we all
deserve a reward I'm going to treat myself to a new DAC and hit the pCP
Payal button. Much obliged to you all.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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VB 2.3 

I was slightly out


Code:

systemctl status squeezeboxserver
  
  systemctl start squeezeboxserver
  
  systemctl stop squeezeboxserver



If you then reboot the VB LMS (squeezeboxserver) will start itself until
you remove it altogether but don't do that until the pCP LMS is fully up
and running with all your players connected.



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Man in a van wrote: 
> Did somebody not call ? :p

:)



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Did somebody not call ? :p



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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No don’t call me Ronnie :)

How to stop LMS on VB2.3 - from memory it’s - “systemctl
squeezeboxserver stop”

On VB2.4 it’s “service logitechmeduaserver stop”

Then you need to switch the Zen player to the new LMS. Easily done via
the web gui.

Once you’ve got it all going investigate Material skin, Music & Artist
Information  and BBC Sounds plugins.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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themicksa wrote: 
> Thanks you so much d6jg, or should I say Ronnie.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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d6jg wrote: 
> You do need a username & password to connect to your “files” share. Try
> root and vortexbox
WOAH! That did it! The Files folder is now mounted and and LMS is busy
scanning the 50k files. Thanks you so much d6jg, or should I say Ronnie.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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Try the following with root / vortexbox.
I tried it today with new Core32 and worked files so should also work
with pCP.

Mount Point - /mnt/Zen
IP Address - 192.168.1.145
Share Name - files
Share Type - CIFS
Options - uid=1001,gid=50,vers=1.0



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You do need a username & password to connect to your “files” share. Try
root and vortexbox



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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Thanks for the generous feedback and suggestions. I'm happy to report
that PCP and LMS are up and running, although I've still had no luck in
mounting the Zen to the LMS media library. That said I'm able to see and
play all the files on the drive via the Remote Libraries plugin--It's
just another click away. Unless any of the below info makes the
difference, or there are other drawbacks I've not envisaged, I can live
with that. And stop bothering you all with dumb questions. Your patience
is much appreciated.

===

paul- wrote: 
> cifs-utils will handle the SMB versions automatically. The reason that
> it is not included by default...it adds 30MB of dependencies..
> pCP is the minimalist approach to an OS.
I have set no pwd on the Zen, so I have left Username and Password
blank. But might cifs-utils be relevant to constructing a valid
pathname?

Man in a van wrote: 
> Squeezelite settings > Audio output device settings > Headphones (follow
> the instructions)
Thank you, my bad. 

Man in a van wrote: 
> Do you have a back up hard disk with the music files on?
I do but that's connected to my Mac for Time machine backups etc. So not
very convenient. 

d6jg wrote: 
> Do you know which version of Vortexbox is installed?
VortexBox SW Version: 2.3
Linux OS Version: Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug)

Man in a van wrote: 
> Man in a van can you please post the full pathway given by the mac smb

This is the path to my main music collection:
smb://192.168.1.145/files/music/flac
Though this also works: smb://Zen/files/music/flac
and yes there are also a few read-only folders which are addressed like
this:
smb://192.168.1.145/music_readonly/flac
I've never felt the need to use the read-only path, and haven't set a
password for music/flac. Might permissions be an issue? They appear
identical to me as Admin user. 

d6jg wrote: 
> VB 2.4,includes LMS 7.8 but it can be upgraded to 8.3 - not sure why he
> has not gone this route.
Yeah, I think this is the long standing problem. I'm only on 2.3, which
if I recall could not run the later versions LMS I need for Spotty, BBC
sounds, Mixcloud etc.

d6jg wrote: 
> LMS on the VB will need to be switched off but fortunately the
> instance(s) of Squeezelite are completely separate to LMS and are not
> “local player plugin” so should continue to work. How you switch LMS off
> depends upon the version installed.
LMS is now turned off on on the VB, and Squeezelite shows (and plays) on
the Mac. Curious to know what you mean about "depending on the version
installed."

d6jg wrote: 
> Before troubleshooting the sound I’d get the pCP reading the VB files
> correctly. I don’t think VB has NFS server running so the mount will
> need to be CiFS. The default admin user is root/vortexbox.
> 
> Mount Point - /mnt/Zen
> IP Address - 192.168.1.145
> Share Name - [whatever is gleaned from the full pathway]
> Share Type - CIFS
> Options - uid=1001,gid=50,vers=1.0
Thanks, I tried those settings to no effect, though curious about your
mention of using something from the pathway for Share Name. The more>
advice says to not use "/". I tried using the folder name of flac, but
no good.  

Man in a van wrote: 
> If the op has a back up disk I would say use that, connected to the pi
> 
> Or copy them onto a disk via the Mac
> 
> I don't see the sense of running LMS on a pi and keeping the files on
> the ZEN, either run the Zen or get rid of it.
If I was starting out again that's probably what I would do but that
would leave me with a £700 CD ripper! If I knew what I was doing (and as
noted, I don't really) I'd upgrade Vortexbox so it could handle LMS or
install some other OS on there (presuming that's possible). Also I was
curious to have a play with the Rpi--it's a lockdown thing I expect.



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Man in a van wrote: 
> I'm just thinking that the full pathway may help in connecting by CIFS
> from the raspberry pi - if it is at all possible
> 
> 
> 
> If the op has a back up disk I would say use that, connected to the pi
> 
> Or copy them onto a disk via the Mac
> 
> I don't see the sense of running LMS on a pi and keeping the files on
> the ZEN, either run the Zen or get rid of it.
> 
> Having been lightly singed by a LIV cubox donkey years ago, I'm not much
> of an Innuos fan. 
> 
> ronnie

The file store via Samba is definitely 
smb://ip/files
I’ve checked



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d6jg wrote: 
> Ronnie
> 
> By default VB puts music into /storage/music but its exposed by
> SMB as music-readonly or files/music IIRC.
> The latter is editable, the former isnt.
> 
> (Ill check in the morning)
> 
> VB 2.4,includes LMS 7.8 but it can be upgraded to 8.3 - not sure why he
> has not gone this route.
> 
> LMS on the VB will need to be switched off but fortunately the
> instance(s) of Squeezelite are completely separate to LMS and are not
> local player plugin  so should continue to work. How you
> switch LMS off depends upon the version installed.
> 
> Before troubleshooting the sound Id get the pCP reading the VB
> files correctly. I dont think VB has NFS server running so the
> mount will need to be CiFS. The default admin user is root/vortexbox.

I'm just thinking that the full pathway may help in connecting by CIFS
from the raspberry pi - if it is at all possible

> Mount Point - /mnt/Zen
> IP Address - 192.168.1.145
> Share Name - [whatever is gleaned from the full pathway]
> Share Type - CIFS
> Options - uid=1001,gid=50,vers=1.0 

If the op has a back up disk I would say use that, connected to the pi

Or copy them onto a disk via the Mac

I don't see the sense of running LMS on a pi and keeping the files on
the ZEN, either run the Zen or get rid of it.

Having been lightly singed by a LIV cubox donkey years ago, I'm not much
of an Innuos fan. 

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Ronnie

By default VB puts music into /storage/music but it’s exposed by SMB as
“music-readonly” or “files/music” IIRC. The latter is editable, the
former isn’t.

(I’ll check in the morning)

VB 2.4,includes LMS 7.8 but it can be upgraded to 8.3 - not sure why he
has not gone this route.

LMS on the VB will need to be switched off but fortunately the
instance(s) of Squeezelite are completely separate to LMS and are not
“local player plugin”  so should continue to work. How you switch LMS
off depends upon the version installed.

Before troubleshooting the sound I’d get the pCP reading the VB files
correctly. I don’t think VB has NFS server running so the mount will
need to be CiFS. The default admin user is root/vortexbox.



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@themicksa

can you please post the full pathway given by the mac smb

smb://192.168.1.145

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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@themicksa

> 
> Should I be able to hear that through the Pi's mini jack output? Cos
> right now I can't.

You need to enable Squeezelite

Squeezelite settings > Audio output device settings > Headphones (follow
the instructions)

Do you have a back up hard disk with the music files on?

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Oh dear. Sorry to say but it appears you really don’t know what you are
doing.

Let’s go back a bit. 
The Innuos box is just a PC in a fancy case that runs a version of Linux
branded as Vortexbox. This includes a number of instances of Squeezelite
and also LMS. It also acts as a low grade  NAS.

Do you know which version of Vortexbox is installed? It could be 7.3,
7.4 or (unlikely) 7.5



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d6jg wrote: 
> Can we clarify. Is the NAS a Vortexbox appliance?

d6jg wrote: 
> Can we clarify. Is the NAS a Vortexbox appliance?

Sorry but I don't know the technicalities of the difference between a
NAS and an external hard drive, nor what a "Vortexbox appliance" might
be. I was under the impression that a NAS could run software and be seen
on the network as as a separate device, without being connected to a pc,
but I may well have that all wrong. 

I've been rummaging through user manuals at home and online and there's
not much relevant detail*. It came preconfigured with Vortexbox as the
OS and LMS running on that. On the mac I can reach Vortexbox via browser
at the Zen's IP address, and its version of LMS at the same address on
port :9000.  In the Mac finder, smb:// mounts as Volumes/files/ with
various subfolders for /music/flac, /music/mp3 etc.  

Innuos stopped using Vortexbox a few years back in favour its own
operating system. I'm sure it's great, but I rather resented the fact I
would have to ship the box back to them for an OS upgrade at a cost of
£75 each time. 

Meanwhile I've still not been able to mount via CIFS. Interestingly
perhaps I just noted that the main page of Vortexbox lists its
"Filesystem" as /storage. Might that be a clue?

In other news, I tried turning off all other LMS players except
"piCorePlayer", reserved its IP at that address, restarted everything,
including the router, but we're still pretty much where we were. I can
connect to the Zen via Remote Libraries, see all my music listed and the
LMS appears to be playing them and streaming from various sources.
Should I be able to hear that through the Pi's mini jack output? Cos
right now I can't.

PS what's the deal with the slimdevices site? One minute it's there, the
next it's gone. Or have I broken that as well?

Cheers and thanks


===
*fwiw, I found these specs for my Innuos Zen XL Music Server (2016) on
Wayback Machine!

AUDIO OUTPUTS
Analog Output   3.5mm jack
Digital Output  USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 supporting USB Audio Class 1, USB
Audio Class 2 and DoP
CONNECTIVITY
Ethernet1 x rear panel RJ45 – Gigabit Ethernet
Other   1x HDMI (service connection only)
USB 2x front panel, 4x USB 2.0,1x USB 3.0
FORMATS
CD Formats  Red Book
Disc Compatibility  CD, CD-R, CD-RW
Audio format for stored CDs FLAC
Audio format for mobile conversion  MP3
Audio Formats Supported for streaming and playing   WAV, AIFF, FLAC,
ALAC, OGG Vorbis, AAC, MP3
SAMPLE RATES
Sample Rates44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4KHz. 192kHz,
352.8KHz, 384KHz , DSD64, DSD128, DSD256
Bit Depths  16bit, 24bit, 32bit
USER CONTROL INTERFACES
Web Interface   Any Internet browser
Mobile  User interface app for iPhone/iPad, Android, Windows Phone 8 and
Windows 8
HARDWARE
CD/DVD driveTEAC Slot-loading drive
Hard Drive  3Tb Western Digital Red hard drive
CPU Intel Dual Core 2.41GHz
Memory  2Gb DDR3
STREAMING AND CD STORAGE
UPnP/DLNA   UPnP Server DLNA device compatible
USB Connect and play to USB DACs (USB Audio Class 1 and Class 2, 
DoP)
Average CD Storage Time 4 minutes
CD Metadata MusicBrainz.com, FreeDB.com
Compatible Music Systems
Sonos Multi-room Wireless Music System
Squeezebox Multi-room Wireless Music System
Naim Uniti music streamers
Linn DS music streamers
Pioneer N50
Cambridge Audio Sonata NP30
Denon 720AE
DLNA/UPnP compatible devices
USB DACs complying to USB Audio Class 1 or 2
USB DACs supporting DSD over DoP protocol
REQUIREMENTS
Network 
Internet connection to access album metadata when storing CDs, Internet
Radio, Streaming Services and software updates
Network router with at least one available ethernet port
Premium subscription required for some streaming services such 
as
Spotify and Qobuz
Music ControllerRemote control app compatible with the Logitech 
Media
Server (Free and Paid versions available - See Downloads) or Web Browser
- Most modern web browsers and platforms are supported
DAC / Converter DAC with USB input supporting USB Audio Class 1, USB
Audio Class 2 or DoP protocols
POWER
Mains SupplyLow ripple Power Adapter, 12V 5A, CEC Level V efficiency
(Optional linear power supply - Contact Us)
Power Consumption   10W when idle, 15W peak
PHYSICAL
Dimensions  100 x 250 x 240mm (H x W x D)
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Can we clarify. Is the NAS a Vortexbox appliance?



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paul- wrote: 
> Lots of distractions so lets start with some basics.
> 
> Players do not "See" music.  It is the LMS server that "Sees" the music
> library, and then sends it to a player.  You could very easily have the
> piCorePlayer player device connecting to your Mac LMS server.   If you
> are getting confused with multiple LMS servers shut them all down except
> one.
> 
> Also forget about players at this point.  Players not playing music is a
> completely different set of things to work on, and they are not really
> related.
> 
> 
> Please describe your desired hardware state.

Paul, you nail it when you talk about being confused between players and
servers on LMS. I've been using LMS for 12 years or so, but it still
bends my mind sometimes.

I'm going to spend time today trying, as you suggest, turning off
everything (including wifi) except the Pi. From the rest of the
conversation (thanks for your advice everyone) I'm going to concentrate
on mounting via CIFS/SMB, though I'm not sure I understand your later
advice on that Paul. I'll be back!

DESIRED HARDWARE STATE:

The NAS box sits with the main hifi system and is connected via DAC and
RCA jacks. 

At the top of the house I have a Squeezebox Touch that I use only to
play out to powered speakers.

Right now the functioning LMS server is running on my MacMini desktop,
which is not ideal. But I do still listen music on the mac (with powered
desktop speakers), via the Local Player plugin and would like to
continue doing that.

In all, I had envisioned the Pi as the single LMS server for the above
players(?), using the NAS drive (or whatever it is, technically
speaking) as the library.

PS does this forum's server regularly fall over? I haven't been able to
connect for some hours until now.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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d6jg wrote: 
> His NAS is in fact a Vortexbox. Initially referred to as a NAS but later
> revealed to actually be a VB which he was trying to connect to his Pi by
> USB.
> 
> I don’t think NFS is installed on VB so he will have to connect his Pi
> by CIFS/Samba

It's alright, I'm taking my medicine. I've got a large or family size
bottle.



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kidstypike wrote: 
> Thread title is "Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed
> please." :confused:

His NAS is in fact a Vortexbox. Initially referred to as a NAS but later
revealed to actually be a VB which he was trying to connect to his Pi by
USB.

I don’t think NFS is installed on VB so he will have to connect his Pi
by CIFS/Samba



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slartibartfast wrote: 
> It is but it is really a NAS [emoji1787]
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Vortexbox is a NAS?

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kidstypike wrote: 
> Thread title is "Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed
> please." :confused:It is but it is really a NAS [emoji1787]

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk





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d6jg wrote: 
> As it’s a Vortexbox you must use CIFS not NFS. No additional set up on
> VB required.

Thread title is "Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed
please." :confused:



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As it’s a Vortexbox you must use CIFS not NFS. No additional set up on
VB required.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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Another pitfall that others get into.   Again from the help info.

35436

cifs-utils will handle the SMB versions automatically.  The reason that
it is not included by default...it adds 30MB of dependencies..  
pCP is the minimalist approach to an OS.


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@ themicksa

Not wanting to add to the confusion , :eek: but I'll just sneak in and
then sneak out :p

If attempting  CIFS again, try pasting this in the options box

> uid=1001,gid=50,vers=1.0

increase to 2.0 or even try without vers if it does not work :rolleyes:

ronnie

who wonders id the permissions for access are correct on the NAS part of
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

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d6jg wrote: 
> Yes. 
> You’ll need to declare the Pi’s IP address in the NFS settings on NAS.
> If you can keep it wired and switch off WiFi so it has one IP address
> and then reserve that in your Router

I don't think I see an option on the NAS to do that. As mentioned that's
running VortexBox SW Version: 2.3 and the interface for that only has a
System Config page to set the IP of the NAS itself. Don't think I can
see a way around that.

I will do as you suggest on the Wifi bit and report back



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I mentioned this before.

for CIFS, vers=3 is not valid.   This the way the kernel developers
chose to do this, so please don't shoot me.

vers=3.0

And are you sure your NAS supports SMB version 3 protocol?   Have you
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kidstypike wrote: 
> Why such a complex share name? I just enter the folder name. I use CIFS
> though.
> 
> 35431

Thanks. I'd seen your question to this effect in an earlier post, but so
far have had no luck setting up CIFS similarly (screenshot)

Advice in the More> section for NFS reads:
 for NFS is the complete volume i.e. /volume1/Media (DO
not use :).
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Lots of distractions so lets start with some basics.

Players do not "See" music.  It is the LMS server that "Sees" the music
library, and then sends it to a player.  You could very easily have the
piCorePlayer player device connecting to your Mac LMS server.   If you
are getting confused with multiple LMS servers shut them all down except
one.

Also forget about players at this point.  Players not playing music is a
completely different set of things to work on, and they are not really
related.


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themicksa wrote: 
> Thanks for that. I was under the impression that the NAS would behave
> like a USB-connected HD, so I'm grateful for that insight. As to
> mounting via CIFS/NFS, I guess that's the nub of my problem: how to
> correctly address that in the Setup Network Disk Mount section of the
> LMS/PCP interface.
> 
> Right now I have:
> 
> Mount Point - /mnt/Zen
> IP Address - 192.168.1.145
> Share Name - /files/music/flac
> Share Type - NFS
> Options - vers=3
> 
> Am I even close?

Yes. 
You’ll need to declare the Pi’s IP address in the NFS settings on NAS.
If you can keep it wired and switch off WiFi so it has one IP address
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themicksa wrote: 
> Thanks for that. I was under the impression that the NAS would behave
> like a USB-connected HD, so I'm grateful for that insight. As to
> mounting via CIFS/NFS, I guess that's the nub of my problem: how to
> correctly address that in the Setup Network Disk Mount section of the
> LMS/PCP interface.
> 
> Right now I have:
> 
> Mount Point - /mnt/Zen
> IP Address - 192.168.1.145
> Share Name - /files/music/flac
> Share Type - NFS
> Options - vers=3
> 
> Am I even close?

Why such a complex share name? I just enter the folder name. I use CIFS
though.

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d6jg wrote: 
> USB ports on NAS will probably only power the Pi. You won’t be able to
> access drives on the NAS that way.
> Instead mount the drives via CIFS/NFS not as USB as you do with your Mac

Thanks for that. I was under the impression that the NAS would behave
like a USB-connected HD, so I'm grateful for that insight. As to
mounting via CIFS/NFS, I guess that's the nub of my problem: how to
correctly address that in the Setup Network Disk Mount section of the
LMS/PCP interface.

Right now I have:

Mount Point - /mnt/Zen
IP Address - 192.168.1.145
Share Name - /files/music/flac
Share Type - NFS
Options - vers=3

Am I even close?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[themicksa]

paul- wrote: 
> Press the more> links where ever you see them, there is help.
> 
> First issue is.  For NFS, vers=3.0 is not valid, it is only vers=3
> 
> 
> Samba is only for sharing files on the pCP device to other computers. 
> It is not used or needed for connecting to your NAS.

Thanks for the reply Paul. The more> links have proved very useful in
the setup process, but in the case of the network mount I'm not sure I
understand what it's trying to tell me. After a bit more fiddling about
I can now see piCorePlayer listed among the available players in the LMS
web interface. But I also see listed a second player named Zen, that has
the same IP address. (Would that name have been picked up from the mount
point I set: /mnt/Zen ?) Any idea what that means?

Both players are able to see the contents of the NAS by using Remote
Libraries (there's a very old instance of LMS running there, that I
can't update, but is obviously still able to manage my FLAC library)
With the Zen player selected, when I try to play something, nothing
happens. With the piCorePlayer selected, the tracks do appear to play
but I'm unable to get anything through the Pi's USB output to the
amplifier (via a USB Dragonfly DAC). 

Presumably if things were working properly I should be able to see (and
scan) the NAS files directly in the My Music screen?

On the subject of IP addresses, I'm also confused that there appear to
be two points of connection, in my case 192.168.1.133 and 192.168.1.135.
Is that normal behaviour? One for wifi one for ethernet?

On the samba question, yes I misunderstood its purpose. I presumed it
was to enable Pi to cope with SMB addresses. That's one blind alley I
can cross of the list.

Questions, questions. I'm sorry to appear so clueless.

Thanks again



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[d6jg]

USB ports on NAS will probably only power the Pi. You won’t be able to
access drives on the NAS that way.
Instead mount the drives via CIFS/NFS not as USB as you do with your Mac



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't mount USB disk on Picoreplayer. Help needed please.

[paul-]

Press the more> links where ever you see them, there is help.

First issue is.  For NFS, vers=3.0 is not valid, it is only vers=3


Samba is only for sharing files on the pCP device to other computers. 
It is not used or needed for connecting to your NAS.



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Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org

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