[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Neville Gosling]

I feel that things have changed since Haig-Brown wrote this or maybe it is just 
me, but I am not as hopeful as I used to be. 2015 has been a poor year for me - 
rivers have been closed due to high temperatures and low water, lake fishing 
has not followed the norms and my friends and I are in agreement that the 
insect hatches are not what they used to be, yet the fish are still there. One 
river in particular went catch and release many years ago but the bull trout 
which is treated as an endangered species in USA are now much more common and 
this has I believe affected the lies and habits of the wild rainbow trout, 
especially the juvenile trout. We now have to search for trout in different 
lies and places and not the familiar old spots.

Neville (Nev) Gosling


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[VFB] Re: QFTD

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

    
 "A recent study in 'Fisheries' magazine reports on various studies of 
ibuprofen( a popular over the counter inflammatory drug).  Seventy to 80 
percent of this drug is not used by our bodies and excreted.  It has been 
detected in surface waters as well as in various fish tissues.  Fish exposed to 
ibuprofen in the lab can have abnormal spine and bone growth.  A study a the 
University of North Carolina- Wilmington  showed that concentrations similar to 
those found in wastewater effluent, expression of genes associated with bone 
and skeletal development was reduced, as was expression of gene regulation 
immune function and metabolism."
Oct-Nov 2014 In-Fisherman"  from Sopinka, N   in Fisheries 40"290
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[VFB] RE: QFTD

[Wayne Blake-Hedges]

The Bass and Panfish anglers who made their own flies were told to adapt trout 
flies to their needsIn most instances, the only result was an ineffective 
trout fly and a useless Bass or Panfish lure.

 Tom Nixon

Guess what book I received in the mail today!

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[VFB] Re: QFTD - XTRA

[J Balmer]

Two of my favs:)

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  Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted 
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

W/ exceptional touch.

 

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Of Rick Zieger
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:07 PM
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HIll country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 

How in the He-- do you expect me to catch a fish on a fly I can't even
@#DDD@ see?

 

Overheard on a Midwester stream at dawn using Tricos.

 

MidWest fly tying  June 2009

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

and everywhere in between, and beyond.
 


Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:47:31 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
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Fly tying is a highly subjective and personal pursuit, which ranges from the 
impressionistic to remarkably realistic.
 
Will Milne   2009 Hatches
 
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Huh, imagine that.

 

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Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 

Fly tying is a highly subjective and personal pursuit, which ranges from
the impressionistic to remarkably realistic.

 

Will Milne   2009 Hatches

 

Rick




 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

The debate started right away, or there wouldn't be a second flyJ

 

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Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 

In all likelihood, the debate began soon after the creation of the second
fly.

 

Al Ritt   2009 Hatches

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Don Ordes]

He is correct. The debate was that it looked too much like my first fly.
  - Original Message - 
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  In all likelihood, the debate began soon after the creation of the second 
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  Al Ritt   2009 Hatches

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[chuckalexander]

Dail: I appreciate any and all help. You can see in my letter to Mark that I am 
VERY familiar with the Wilson's work and I even had a great friend (Tony LOL) 
who send me a several of their Bully Bluegill Fly flies that was tied and 
autographed by the Wilson's themselves. The internet itself makes writing a 
book much easier nowadays than in yesteryear where you had to do a lot more 
asphalt pounding doing your research. Man, this is all making me think about 
Sowbug and how bad I want to make it there someday. I missed last year (and the 
year before) cause of finances and this year ain't looking so hot as we're in 
the process of moving and are remodeling at the new place a little along as we 
can afford the materials, but if there is anyway possible to make Sowbug 2010 
I'll sure be there. Even if I didn't get to tie I'd get to meet ppl like 
yourself and all the other great folks here that go there. My wife did recently 
go back to work after having her knee replacement. She's only working three 
days a week now because of the economy, but maybe i can talk to her boss and 
tell him we need some Sowbug money and could he work her 8 days a week LOL.. 
Just like the old Beatles song..One good thing. I hate being told no, so I 
don't think I'm gonna go the send off a manuscript to 100 different publishers 
and wait on the rejection letters LOL, so I think I'll self publish and just 
put out a book on CD. But, I do have a cpl ideas of  regular paper and ink 
publishers that I don't think will give me that NO word LOL.. Chuck


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Dail Graham 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:30 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  Chuck- Bluegill...Fly Fishing and Flies   Terry and Roxanne Wilson  , Frank 
Amato Publications would be a nice reference.   They are also well respected 
contributors to FFF and other fishing pubs.   as well as several seminars at 
many FFF conclaves across the country.  Perhaps you may already know this and 
if so please disregard this email.  Trying to help out and am looking forward 
to your book.Dail Graham
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


Chuck, you ever see Terry and Rozanne Wilson's book bout Gils and such? 
i'll look and see the exact title later on tonight when i go downstairs...
 
Btw Peg.i found the Art Flick book your were referring to the other 
daythe one that has a chapter in it by Schweibert on hair wing Salmon 
flies..i knew i had that puppy.been forever since i checked it 
out last..
 


From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:49:33 -0500


And this reminds me. I have over half a book written about fly 
fishing/tying for bluegills and I need to get back to work and finish it, cause 
they are the MOST caught species of freshwater fish caught, PERIOD, yet one of 
the least written about. Chuck


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Zieger 
  To: VFB ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; 
flyfishingworld ; HIll country 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:20 AM
  Subject: [VFB] QFTD


  Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in the 
Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked or written 
about as much as other species, but their available and willing to take a fly.

  Tim Holschlag July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing

  Rick

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

 


From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:08:04 -0500




Mark: Thanks a lot.. And if it is a book on CD, I'll sign the Jewel Case 
LOLOL...Chuck
 
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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:50 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

Best of luck to you Chuck.with all the passion you have for the 
subject.i'm sure it'll be a real fun read. You can count on me to pick up a 
copy. But i'll need your John Hancock in there. 
 


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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:43:52 -0500




Mark: Yeah, It's the first fly fishing/tying book I ever bought and I have read 
mine probably a dozen times. In my book, I do my level best NOT to talk about 
the exact things they talk about, but it's hard not to , cause so many things 
overlap. I just really do think there is room for another bluegill book on the 
market..Don't get me wrong. The Wilson's is an AWESOME book. I just think that 
if Trout can have thousands of books, then a bluegill should be able to have at 
least two, specially since it is the MOST sought after fish species (at least 
freshwater) bar none. Thing is, there's not so many zillions of money in the 
latest and greatest (expensive) tackle lures, fly patterns etc as there are for 
other species to make all that money off of.  And, I have wanted to write a 
book all my life, so it was a perfect fit. I was just waiting for a subject 
(cause all I wish to write is non fiction) that I felt strongly enough about to 
write a whole book, and that happened to be fly fishing/tying for bluegills 
(the working title is How to catch 100 Bluegills per day on a Fly Rod). Man, 
thing that slows me down is that I'm a redneck  hillbilly trying to write a 
book without murdering the king's English too bad LOL. Plus, I get to put great 
pics of my kids and grandkids fly fishing (and catching bluegills) with me in 
the book, and that is a great feeling. Good thing I have a great editor (Mr. 
Fish) who stays on my A$$. I think he has worn out about three red ink pens 
making corrections and the book is just over half finished LOLOL. Sorry for 
writing a book here LOL.. Chuck
 
 
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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

Chuck, you ever see Terry and Rozanne Wilson's book bout Gils and such? i'll 
look and see the exact title later on tonight when i go downstairs...
 
Btw Peg.i found the Art Flick book your were referring to the other 
daythe one that has a chapter in it by Schweibert on hair wing Salmon 
flies..i knew i had that puppy.been forever since i checked it 
out last..
 


From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:49:33 -0500




And this reminds me. I have over half a book written about fly fishing/tying 
for bluegills and I need to get back to work and finish it, cause they are the 
MOST caught species of freshwater fish caught, PERIOD, yet one of the least 
written about. Chuck
 
 
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Zieger 
To: VFB ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; flyfishingworld ; 
HIll country 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: [VFB] QFTD



Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in the 
Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked or written 
about as much as other species, but their available and willing to take a fly.
 
Tim Holschlag July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing
 
Rick
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[chuckalexander]

Same here. They even have a TV show about ppl like me now. It's called 
Hoarders LOL, Chuck


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  - Original Message - 
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HIll country 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:15 AM
  Subject: [VFB] QFTD


  My friends describe me as a collector, my wife calls me a pack rat, and my 
parents refer to me as obsessive.

  Bob White Hatches  2009 

  Rick


  


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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[chuckalexander]

Mark: I'm gonna keep pluggin along. It's been a dream for as long as i can 
remember. I had to take a break. I was writing (or researching) 16 hours a day 
and it got to be like that four letter word (WURK) LOL, so I had to take a 
little break, but have been working on it a little this past week. Mostly 
correcting mistakes and rewording sentences etc, Chuck


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:44 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  you sound more than determined Chuck...just keep followin' your dream 
and do just like you said, NEVER take no for an answer. 
   

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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
  Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:06:50 -0500


  Dail: I appreciate any and all help. You can see in my letter to Mark that I 
am VERY familiar with the Wilson's work and I even had a great friend (Tony 
LOL) who send me a several of their Bully Bluegill Fly flies that was tied 
and autographed by the Wilson's themselves. The internet itself makes writing a 
book much easier nowadays than in yesteryear where you had to do a lot more 
asphalt pounding doing your research. Man, this is all making me think about 
Sowbug and how bad I want to make it there someday. I missed last year (and the 
year before) cause of finances and this year ain't looking so hot as we're in 
the process of moving and are remodeling at the new place a little along as we 
can afford the materials, but if there is anyway possible to make Sowbug 2010 
I'll sure be there. Even if I didn't get to tie I'd get to meet ppl like 
yourself and all the other great folks here that go there. My wife did recently 
go back to work after having her knee replacement. She's only working three 
days a week now because of the economy, but maybe i can talk to her boss and 
tell him we need some Sowbug money and could he work her 8 days a week LOL.. 
Just like the old Beatles song..One good thing. I hate being told no, so I 
don't think I'm gonna go the send off a manuscript to 100 different publishers 
and wait on the rejection letters LOL, so I think I'll self publish and just 
put out a book on CD. But, I do have a cpl ideas of  regular paper and ink 
publishers that I don't think will give me that NO word LOL.. Chuck


  Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at:
  
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- Original Message - 
From: Dail Graham 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:30 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


Chuck- Bluegill...Fly Fishing and Flies   Terry and Roxanne Wilson  , 
Frank Amato Publications would be a nice reference.   They are also well 
respected contributors to FFF and other fishing pubs.   as well as several 
seminars at many FFF conclaves across the country.  Perhaps you may already 
know this and if so please disregard this email.  Trying to help out and am 
looking forward to your book.Dail Graham
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  Chuck, you ever see Terry and Rozanne Wilson's book bout Gils and such? 
i'll look and see the exact title later on tonight when i go downstairs...
   
  Btw Peg.i found the Art Flick book your were referring to the other 
daythe one that has a chapter in it by Schweibert on hair wing Salmon 
flies..i knew i had that puppy.been forever since i checked it 
out last..
   

--
  From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
  Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:49:33 -0500


  And this reminds me. I have over half a book written about fly 
fishing/tying for bluegills and I need to get back to work and finish it, cause 
they are the MOST caught species of freshwater fish caught, PERIOD, yet one of 
the least written about. Chuck


  Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at:
  
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Zieger 
To: VFB ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; 
flyfishingworld ; HIll country 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: [VFB] QFTD


Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in the 
Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked or written 
about as much as other species, but their available

[VFB] Re: QFTD

[chuckalexander]

This is absolutely true. Bluegills say, unlike bass who will see something, 
inhale it and taste it later. Ppl have told Me I don't fish for bluegills 
cause they are too easy to catch. The tiny butterbeans may be too easy to 
catch, but for the hubcaps that my book is about, they can be as picky as any 
fish that swims. They check out EVERY piece of food before taking it. 90% of 
the hits we get, we don't even realize they hit it cause it happens sooo fast. 
I am also one who believes that ounce for ounce, pound per pound, the bluegill 
fights as hard as any fish in the water. The reason is simple. Look at his body 
shape. ROUND. And when hooked, he don't jump out of the water like a trout or 
bass, but rather turns his flat, round body at a 90 degree angle to the 
anglers, making him the fightingest son of a gun in the water. IMHO of course 
LOL, Chuck


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  Subject: [VFB] QFTD


  In clear water, you can sometimes watch bluegills rise to the fly, then stop 
and observe it for several seconds before sipping it in.  Consequently, your 
retrieves should be extra slow with long pauses.  Some anglers claim bluegills 
are the strongest fish in freshwater.

  Tim  Holschlag   July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing

  Rick 


  


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[chuckalexander]

Three pounds is a monster. Where do you live??? Chuck


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  I caught a 3+ lb gill on light tackle once,  pound for pound I'd have to say 
they are @ least one of the strongest. Plus their propensity to run in circles 
when hooked makes things a bit interesting.

   

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  In clear water, you can sometimes watch bluegills rise to the fly, then stop 
and observe it for several seconds before sipping it in.  Consequently, your 
retrieves should be extra slow with long pauses.  Some anglers claim bluegills 
are the strongest fish in freshwater.

   

  Tim  Holschlag   July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing

   

  Rick 





   

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

It wasn't here, it was up on the Minnesota side of the Boundary Waters 30
years ago. I was flinging a beetle spin in top of lily pads  dropping it
into open water trying to catch dinner on a camping trip. I thought I had a
northern until I got it close to the canoe. It was a little bigger than a
dinner plate, 3 lbs 14 ozs according to the spring scale. Biggest I've
caught on a fly rod was a pound 12 ozs, but still a lot of fun on a 5 wt.

 

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Three pounds is a monster. Where do you live??? Chuck

 

 

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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

I caught a 3+ lb gill on light tackle once,  pound for pound I'd have to
say they are @ least one of the strongest. Plus their propensity to run in
circles when hooked makes things a bit interesting.

 

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Of Rick Zieger
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:15 AM
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 

In clear water, you can sometimes watch bluegills rise to the fly, then
stop and observe it for several seconds before sipping it in.  Consequently,
your retrieves should be extra slow with long pauses.  Some anglers claim
bluegills are the strongest fish in freshwater.

 

Tim  Holschlag   July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing

 

Rick 

 

 

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[Mark Romero]

Ounce for ounce.NOTHIN' beats 'em. 
 


Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:14:48 -0700
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In clear water, you can sometimes watch bluegills rise to the fly, then stop 
and observe it for several seconds before sipping it in.  Consequently, your 
retrieves should be extra slow with long pauses.  Some anglers claim bluegills 
are the strongest fish in freshwater.
 
Tim  Holschlag   July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing
 
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[J Balmer]

I don't know that they're popular so much as they are so prolific  will hit
anything. I don't target bluegill, I usually catch them when I'm targeting
other species, but they are fun to catch.

 

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Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in the
Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked or written
about as much as other species, but their available and willing to take a
fly.

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Jimmy D. Moore]

Since we have very few Tail Waters in the deep South and therefore few 
trout, I'd say Bluegills would be the most popular inshore fly rod 
species.  I grew up in Alabama and fished the backwaters of Pickwick and 
Wilson Lakes.  My first fishing was with Heddon fly rod that Dad got me 
for my 8th birthday. With it, I fished for every Alabama species 
imaginable, but especially the Bluegill. Tied my own flies with my 
Herter fly tying kit. There's nothing quite like hooking a 3/4 pound 
Bull Bluegill on a light weight fly rod.  In late Spring when the Mayfly 
hatch comes, Bluegills by the hundreds will lie in wait under the 
branches of willows waiting for the fall.  I witnessed this first hand 
many times.  The most fun I ever had was my Dad and I catching over 100 
Bluegills in a little over an hour.  That was before C  R, so we took 
all home and I cleaned them. BTW, the world record 4 pound 12 ounce 
Bluegill was caught April 9, 1950 in Keytona Lake, just outside of 
Birmingham, AL.  Considering how hard even small Bluegills fight, 
imagine the battle that monster would put up on a fly rod.  If you've 
never tried Bluegills, you're missing out on some really enjoyable fly 
rodding.

JIMMY D

Rick Zieger wrote:

 Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in 
 the Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked 
 or written about as much as other species, but their available and 
 willing to take a fly.
  
 Tim Holschlag July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing
  
 Rick


 

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[Mark Romero]

Just as fun to eat as they are to catch.i definately target themthey big as 
a dinner plate round here as well.
 


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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:28:29 -0500





I don’t know that they’re popular so much as they are so prolific  will hit 
anything. I don’t target bluegill, I usually catch them when I’m targeting 
other species, but they are fun to catch.
 


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Rick Zieger
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:20 AM
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country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 


Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in the 
Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked or written 
about as much as other species, but their available and willing to take a fly.

 

Tim Holschlag July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing

 

Rick



 
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[chuckalexander]

And this reminds me. I have over half a book written about fly fishing/tying 
for bluegills and I need to get back to work and finish it, cause they are the 
MOST caught species of freshwater fish caught, PERIOD, yet one of the least 
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  Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in the 
Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked or written 
about as much as other species, but their available and willing to take a fly.

  Tim Holschlag July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing

  Rick


  


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[Mark Romero]

Chuck, you ever see Terry and Rozanne Wilson's book bout Gils and such? i'll 
look and see the exact title later on tonight when i go downstairs...

 

Btw Peg.i found the Art Flick book your were referring to the other 
daythe one that has a chapter in it by Schweibert on hair wing Salmon 
flies..i knew i had that puppy.been forever since i checked it 
out last..
 


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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:49:33 -0500




And this reminds me. I have over half a book written about fly fishing/tying 
for bluegills and I need to get back to work and finish it, cause they are the 
MOST caught species of freshwater fish caught, PERIOD, yet one of the least 
written about. Chuck
 
 
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD



Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in the 
Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked or written 
about as much as other species, but their available and willing to take a fly.
 
Tim Holschlag July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing
 
Rick
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[chuckalexander]

Mark: Yeah, It's the first fly fishing/tying book I ever bought and I have read 
mine probably a dozen times. In my book, I do my level best NOT to talk about 
the exact things they talk about, but it's hard not to , cause so many things 
overlap. I just really do think there is room for another bluegill book on the 
market..Don't get me wrong. The Wilson's is an AWESOME book. I just think that 
if Trout can have thousands of books, then a bluegill should be able to have at 
least two, specially since it is the MOST sought after fish species (at least 
freshwater) bar none. Thing is, there's not so many zillions of money in the 
latest and greatest (expensive) tackle lures, fly patterns etc as there are for 
other species to make all that money off of.  And, I have wanted to write a 
book all my life, so it was a perfect fit. I was just waiting for a subject 
(cause all I wish to write is non fiction) that I felt strongly enough about to 
write a whole book, and that happened to be fly fishing/tying for bluegills 
(the working title is How to catch 100 Bluegills per day on a Fly Rod). Man, 
thing that slows me down is that I'm a redneck  hillbilly trying to write a 
book without murdering the king's English too bad LOL. Plus, I get to put great 
pics of my kids and grandkids fly fishing (and catching bluegills) with me in 
the book, and that is a great feeling. Good thing I have a great editor (Mr. 
Fish) who stays on my A$$. I think he has worn out about three red ink pens 
making corrections and the book is just over half finished LOLOL. Sorry for 
writing a book here LOL.. Chuck


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  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  Chuck, you ever see Terry and Rozanne Wilson's book bout Gils and such? i'll 
look and see the exact title later on tonight when i go downstairs...
   
  Btw Peg.i found the Art Flick book your were referring to the other 
daythe one that has a chapter in it by Schweibert on hair wing Salmon 
flies..i knew i had that puppy.been forever since i checked it 
out last..
   

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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
  Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:49:33 -0500


  And this reminds me. I have over half a book written about fly fishing/tying 
for bluegills and I need to get back to work and finish it, cause they are the 
MOST caught species of freshwater fish caught, PERIOD, yet one of the least 
written about. Chuck


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; HIll country 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: [VFB] QFTD


Bluegills actutally are one of the most popular fly rod species in the 
Midwest, at least in terms of numbers caught.  They aren't talked or written 
about as much as other species, but their available and willing to take a fly.

Tim Holschlag July 2009  MidWest Fly Fishing

Rick

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[J Balmer]

What my friends, girlfriend  parents call me is better left out of print.

 

J

 

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My friends describe me as a collector, my wife calls me a pack rat, and my
parents refer to me as obsessive.

 

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[Don Ordes]

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I say that it's not me- blame Buggs.
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[Mark Romero]

merily merily merily life is but a dream
 


Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:15:24 -0700
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[J Balmer]

My very creative mind plays w/ objects whether I love them or not.

 

J

 

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The creative mind plays with the objects it loves.

 

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[Mark Romero]

 


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Mark: Now you are making me feel bad. Since I can take my Pink Panfish Producer 
out and catch 50-100 nice bluegills on any day of the week and twice on Sundays 
I thought that meant that the fish were impressed by the fly ROFL, Chuck
 
 
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

You miss the point Allan.i mentioned nothing bout what he inherently 
inferedi was simply correcting his misled theroy bout what fish are 
capeable of.and being impressed, is not one of them. 
 


Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:29:52 -0400
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD




Mark.


Actually, Wayne said it correctly by inherently inferring that flies are tied 
to impress people.  Very subtle.  Very astute.  Nearly poetic.  Very nicely 
done.


a.


Wrong, a fly fisher can be impressed..a fish can only be fooled, or 
tricked. Wayne needs to choose his words better.

Rick Zieger wrote:

.ExternalClass DIV {;}
Let's face it; a lot of our tying is not done to impress the fish.
 
Wayne Samson Hatches 2009
 
Rick







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Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited,
Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
Texas Fish  Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret.
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

The panfish around here don't limpJ I'll be throwing spinners instead of
flies most of this weekend, semi-annual mental health trip to Lake
Shelbyville in south central Illinois. Those panfish will be banging my 4
lb test ultra light.

 

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Panfish come limping down the breaks in fall, like victims of a Soviet
program or some kind of aquatic Dust Bowl.

 

Matt Straw   Oct/Nov 2009  in-Fisherman

 

Rick 

 

 




 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Alan Di Somma]

Chuck:

Care to share your PPP?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
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  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  Mark: Now you are making me feel bad. Since I can take my Pink Panfish 
Producer out and catch 50-100 nice bluegills on any day of the week and twice 
on Sundays I thought that meant that the fish were impressed by the fly ROFL, 
Chuck


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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


You miss the point Allan.i mentioned nothing bout what he inherently 
inferedi was simply correcting his misled theroy bout what fish are 
capeable of.and being impressed, is not one of them. 
 


Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:29:52 -0400
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD


Mark.


Actually, Wayne said it correctly by inherently inferring that flies are 
tied to impress people.  Very subtle.  Very astute.  Nearly poetic.  Very 
nicely done.


a.


  Wrong, a fly fisher can be impressed..a fish can only be fooled, or 
tricked. Wayne needs to choose his words better.

  Rick Zieger wrote:

.ExternalClass DIV {;}
Let's face it; a lot of our tying is not done to impress the fish.

Wayne Samson Hatches 2009

Rick







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  Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited,
  Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
  Texas Fish  Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret.
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[chuckalexander]

Alan: Sure. Right here, Chuck


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  Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:27 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  Chuck:

  Care to share your PPP?

  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
- Original Message - 
From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:04 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


Mark: Now you are making me feel bad. Since I can take my Pink Panfish 
Producer out and catch 50-100 nice bluegills on any day of the week and twice 
on Sundays I thought that meant that the fish were impressed by the fly ROFL, 
Chuck


Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at:

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ


  - Original Message - 
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  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:04 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  You miss the point Allan.i mentioned nothing bout what he inherently 
inferedi was simply correcting his misled theroy bout what fish are 
capeable of.and being impressed, is not one of them. 
   

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  Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:29:52 -0400
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  From: afi...@sbcglobal.net
  Subject: [VFB] QFTD


  Mark.


  Actually, Wayne said it correctly by inherently inferring that flies are 
tied to impress people.  Very subtle.  Very astute.  Nearly poetic.  Very 
nicely done.


  a.


Wrong, a fly fisher can be impressed..a fish can only be fooled, or 
tricked. Wayne needs to choose his words better.

Rick Zieger wrote:

  .ExternalClass DIV {;}
  Let's face it; a lot of our tying is not done to impress the fish.

  Wayne Samson Hatches 2009

  Rick







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Texas Fish  Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret.
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Invented and Tied by: Chuck Alexander
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Hook: #12 (or14) Scud or Nymph hook I've even used dry fly hooks if that's all 
I had as the fish don't care) 
Thread: Hot Pink 6/0
.010 lead wire wraps (optional)
Gold bead head
Hot Pink Ultra (or medium) chenille
Tail: Squirrel Tail
Collar: Hen's Hackle (or rooster, the fish don't care)

attachment: pink panfish producer side view apr 9 2008.jpg

[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

Have fun J.B. Misa is teaching a class this morning and taking one in the 
afternooni only got three hours sleep...we tyed late. Took everyone 
to the river today and got them in at the dam. They turned it off last minute. 
Gonna take a nap. We got registered, got our shirts and pins, etc. early this 
morning. Tonight's the welcomming dinner. Tomorrow we start the show. Conclave 
starts today but Thurs. and Sun. are just clases and meetings.Fri. and 
Sat. is the show. 
 


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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:34:07 -0500





The panfish around here don’t limpJ I’ll be throwing spinners instead of flies 
most of this weekend, semi-annual mental health trip to Lake Shelbyville in 
south central Illinois. Those panfish will be banging my 4  lb test ultra light.
 


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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:13 AM
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country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 


Panfish come limping down the breaks in fall, like victims of a Soviet program 
or some kind of aquatic Dust Bowl.

 

Matt Straw   Oct/Nov 2009  in-Fisherman

 

Rick 

 

 



 
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Have fun, maybe I'll make it to one of your shows in the future. Those types
of events aren't about sleep anywayJ

 

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Of Mark Romero
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:55 AM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

Have fun J.B. Misa is teaching a class this morning and taking one in the
afternooni only got three hours sleep...we tyed late. Took
everyone to the river today and got them in at the dam. They turned it off
last minute. Gonna take a nap. We got registered, got our shirts and pins,
etc. early this morning. Tonight's the welcomming dinner. Tomorrow we start
the show. Conclave starts today but Thurs. and Sun. are just clases and
meetings.Fri. and Sat. is the show.
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif 
 

  _  

From: jbal...@a5.com
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:34:07 -0500

The panfish around here don't limpJ I'll be throwing spinners instead of
flies most of this weekend, semi-annual mental health trip to Lake
Shelbyville in south central Illinois. Those panfish will be banging my 4
lb test ultra light.

 

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Of Rick Zieger
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:13 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld;
HIll country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 

Panfish come limping down the breaks in fall, like victims of a Soviet
program or some kind of aquatic Dust Bowl.

 

Matt Straw   Oct/Nov 2009  in-Fisherman

 

Rick 

 

 

 

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

That too.

 

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Of Mark Romero
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:22 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

You got that rightbut i been runnin' on 3 or 4 or 2 or 5 or 1 or
6 or none or whatever a my life. It's a way of
life. Life in the music business.
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif 
 

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From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:11:41 -0500

Have fun, maybe I'll make it to one of your shows in the future. Those types
of events aren't about sleep anywayJ

 

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Of Mark Romero
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:55 AM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

Have fun J.B. Misa is teaching a class this morning and taking one in the
afternooni only got three hours sleep...we tyed late. Took
everyone to the river today and got them in at the dam. They turned it off
last minute. Gonna take a nap. We got registered, got our shirts and pins,
etc. early this morning. Tonight's the welcomming dinner. Tomorrow we start
the show. Conclave starts today but Thurs. and Sun. are just clases and
meetings.Fri. and Sat. is the show.
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif 
 

  _  

From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:34:07 -0500

The panfish around here don't limpJ I'll be throwing spinners instead of
flies most of this weekend, semi-annual mental health trip to Lake
Shelbyville in south central Illinois. Those panfish will be banging my 4
lb test ultra light.

 

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Of Rick Zieger
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:13 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld;
HIll country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 

Panfish come limping down the breaks in fall, like victims of a Soviet
program or some kind of aquatic Dust Bowl.

 

Matt Straw   Oct/Nov 2009  in-Fisherman

 

Rick 

 

 

 

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

Wrong, a fly fisher can be impressed..a fish can only be fooled, or 
tricked. Wayne needs to choose his words better. 

Rick Zieger wrote:






Let's face it; a lot of our tying is not done to impress the fish.
 
Wayne Samson Hatches 2009
 
Rick 





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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Most lures period, fly or otherwise are built to entice fisherpeople.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:14 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

Right, and 90 % of commercial flies are tied to impress the fly fisher, not
the fish. ROTF

Rick Zieger wrote:



Let's face it; a lot of our tying is not done to impress the fish.

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

fisherpeople.i likes that word.lol
 


From: jbal...@a5.com
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:41:41 -0500





Most lures period, fly or otherwise are built to entice fisherpeople.
 


From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:14 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; Fly Fishing World; 
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 
Right, and 90 % of commercial flies are tied to impress the fly fisher, not the 
fish. ROTF

Rick Zieger wrote:




Let's face it; a lot of our tying is not done to impress the fish.

 

Wayne Samson Hatches 2009

 

Rick 





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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

You miss the point Allan.i mentioned nothing bout what he inherently 
inferedi was simply correcting his misled theroy bout what fish are 
capeable of.and being impressed, is not one of them. 
 


Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:29:52 -0400
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
From: afi...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [VFB] QFTD




Mark.


Actually, Wayne said it correctly by inherently inferring that flies are tied 
to impress people.  Very subtle.  Very astute.  Nearly poetic.  Very nicely 
done.


a.


Wrong, a fly fisher can be impressed..a fish can only be fooled, or 
tricked. Wayne needs to choose his words better.

Rick Zieger wrote:

.ExternalClass DIV {;}
Let's face it; a lot of our tying is not done to impress the fish.
 
Wayne Samson Hatches 2009
 
Rick







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Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing  Hunting Club,
Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited,
Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
Texas Fish  Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret.
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

Misa and i took a class with Ken Iwamasa (Iwamass, one of those spellings is 
correct?), at the FFF S.C.C. a couple years ago..GREAT 
Class.i'm still tryin' to find his book. Jeff Frye got him to come from 
Colorado and do the Conclave here. Another feather in his cap. If we never 
thanked you Jeff, THANKX! 
 


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Subject: [VFB] QFTD
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; 
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I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that is 
necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins as 
possible and kept to a minimum.
 
Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 Fly Tyer
 
Rick 



  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Jimmy D. Moore]

Was that float a Hook?  :-P

JIMMY D

Rick Zieger wrote:

 I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were 
 all that is necessary to float a book, and that the tying 
 thread should be as thins as possible and kept to a minimum.
  
 Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 Fly Tyer
  
 Rick



 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Jeff Frye]

That is a very hard book to find. I still haven't found it either. I'm trying 
to get him to write another. He has flown in for the weekend with our club 2 of 
the last 3 years. He has an article in the new Fly Tyer. You're welcome, Mark





From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com
To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:27:12 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 Misa and i took a class with Ken Iwamasa (Iwamass, one of those spellings is 
correct?), at the FFF S.C.C. a couple years ago..GREAT 
Class.i'm still tryin' to find his book. Jeff Frye got him to come from 
Colorado and do the Conclave here. Another feather in his cap. If we never 
thanked you Jeff, THANKX! 
 

 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:41:42 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
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I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that is 
necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins as 
possible and kept to a minimum.
 
Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 Fly Tyer
 
Rick  




  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

I usually just open the book to float it, but that doesn’t last long. Gotta
be some big hackle…

 

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Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:28 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

Was that float a Hook? :-P 

JIMMY D

Rick Zieger wrote:




I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that
is necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins
as possible and kept to a minimum.

 

Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 Fly Tyer

 

Rick 









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Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
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RE: AW: [VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

that's what i thought .havin' constant contact with the 
language.Iwamass just didn't jive
 


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Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:09:17 +0200







It is Iwamasa 
http://keniwamasa.com
 
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Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag 
von Jeff Frye
Gesendet: Samstag, 26. September 2009 20:05
An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Betreff: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 


That is a very hard book to find. I still haven't found it either. I'm trying 
to get him to write another. He has flown in for the weekend with our club 2 of 
the last 3 years. He has an article in the new Fly Tyer. You're welcome, Mark

 




From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com
To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:27:12 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

Misa and i took a class with Ken Iwamasa (Iwamass, one of those spellings is 
correct?), at the FFF S.C.C. a couple years ago..GREAT 
Class.i'm still tryin' to find his book. Jeff Frye got him to come from 
Colorado and do the Conclave here. Another feather in his cap. If we never 
thanked you Jeff, THANKX! 
 



Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:41:42 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; 
flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com; hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com





I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that is 
necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins as 
possible and kept to a minimum.

 

Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 Fly Tyer

 

Rick 










  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

His brain was bigger than a bread crumb  I've since swapped the vest for a
chest pack.

 

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Of Rick Zieger
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:22 AM
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 


from Jospeh Fusco Sr 

 

There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying
to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting
licked in the process.

~Paul O'Neil, 1965

 

Rick 

 

This is not me as I fish out of a canoe most of the time. 




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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

DANG, that ex Yankee right fielder couldn't of been more than 2/3 years old in 
'65. 
 


Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:21:59 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
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from Jospeh Fusco Sr 
 

There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to 
outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked 
in the process.

~Paul O'Neil, 1965
 
Rick 
 
This is not me as I fish out of a canoe most of the time. 



  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

i bought the chest pack...still haven't used it yet, lol. 
 


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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
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His brain was bigger than a bread crumb  I’ve since swapped the vest for a 
chest pack.
 

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Rick Zieger
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:22 AM
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country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 





from Jospeh Fusco Sr 

 
There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to 
outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked 
in the process.


~Paul O'Neil, 1965

 

Rick 

 

This is not me as I fish out of a canoe most of the time. 



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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

I bought the Fishpond one. It was weird @ first, but having the drop down
tray is nice when retying. Harder to drop a weighted fly in the drinkJ

 

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Of Mark Romero
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:57 AM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

i bought the chest pack...still haven't used it yet, lol.
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif 
 

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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:41:08 -0500

His brain was bigger than a bread crumb  I've since swapped the vest for a
chest pack.

 

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Of Rick Zieger
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:22 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld;
HIll country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 


from Jospeh Fusco Sr 

 

There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying
to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting
licked in the process.

~Paul O'Neil, 1965

 

Rick 

 

This is not me as I fish out of a canoe most of the time. 




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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

mine's a Fishpond as well..gotta try it out soon.
 


From: jbal...@a5.com
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:11:14 -0500







I bought the Fishpond one. It was weird @ first, but having the drop down tray 
is nice when retying. Harder to drop a weighted fly in the drinkJ
 


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Mark Romero
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:57 AM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 
i bought the chest pack...still haven't used it yet, lol. 
 



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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:41:08 -0500

His brain was bigger than a bread crumb  I’ve since swapped the vest for a 
chest pack.
 

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Rick Zieger
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:22 AM
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country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 





from Jospeh Fusco Sr 

 
There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to 
outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked 
in the process.

~Paul O'Neil, 1965

 

Rick 

 

This is not me as I fish out of a canoe most of the time. 



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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[glwebb]

And some patterns like soft hackles with silk thread count on  this change
in color.

Gary Webb


   
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 It's frequently difficult to maintain correct color one dubbing becomes   
 wet and translucent.  Thank the hook shank: it's in the middle of  
 everything, soaking up light like a dark heart defeating every effort to   
 brighten things up.  Even using substantially lighter dubbing only 
 partially solves the problem.  My solution is to start tying the body  
 using Mylar tinsel.   

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Or wire, or floss:)

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And some patterns like soft hackles with silk thread count on  this change
in color.

Gary Webb


   
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 wet and translucent.  Thank the hook shank: it's in the middle of  
 everything, soaking up light like a dark heart defeating every effort to   
 brighten things up.  Even using substantially lighter dubbing only 
 partially solves the problem.  My solution is to start tying the body  
 using Mylar tinsel.   

 Bill Logan   Autumn 2009  Fly Tyer   

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

Rick, you seem to really like Bill Logan a lotgood choice. He's an 
incredable tyer. Really nice guy too. i wish he'd come down and do the Sowbug 
sometime. 
 


Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:18:18 -0700
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD
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It's frequently difficult to maintain correct color one dubbing becomes wet 
and translucent.  Thank the hook shank: it's in the middle of everything, 
soaking up light like a dark heart defeating every effort to brighten things 
up.  Even using substantially lighter dubbing only partially solves the 
problem.  My solution is to start tying the body using Mylar tinsel.
 
Bill Logan   Autumn 2009  Fly Tyer
 
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Jimmy D. Moore]

In my case, it's usually the last fly that I try. Would that I tried 
that one first.

JIMMY F

Rick Zieger wrote:

 As long as it's hard to find the next fly you wish to try, hope 
 remains that some where, tucked in some corner, awaits the fly that 
 will save the day.
  
 Bill Logan  autumn 2009  Fly Tyer
  
 Rick



 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Dail Graham]

Rene=  Great pattern.  This pattern will cause us to chuck but not duck. 
Having fun here.  Dail
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 Bacon Nymph

 Hook: Nymph Hook, Sz. 10 to 14
 Thread: Brown
 Tail: Some pheasant tail fibers
 Underbody: Piece of bacon
 Abdomen: pheasant tail fibers
 Rib: Copper
 thorax: piece of bacon
 Bingcase: Peacock fibers
 Legs: none
 Head: Thread, and a drop of wodka

 Have fun

 Rene


 Allan Fish wrote:
 Can't use meat, although jerky might work for a little whileŠ


 You can use tanned meat (suede).  Makes great leeches.

 a.



 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

Seems the guy must know you Rick.
 


Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:51:43 -0700
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD
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Is there anything that you cannot use to tie flies
 
Question I was asked yesterday as I grabbed some odd colors of plastic bead 
chain that were going to be thrown away.
 
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

 


Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:57:32 -0700
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
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Wow  I beat Mark at something.  I have 18 boxes in my vest.  Many fo them are 
small, but they carry different flies in them.
 
Rick

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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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J.B., i've got 14 in my vestah, make that 13i seem to have 
lost one recently...my nymph box.just up and 
vanished...hope somebody found it.
 






  
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Not in my world.

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Rick Zieger]

Wow  I beat Mark at something.  I have 18 boxes in my vest.  Many fo them are 
small, but they carry different flies in them.
 
Rick

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J.B., i've got 14 in my vestah, make that 13i seem to have 
lost one recently...my nymph box.just up and 
vanishedhope somebody found it.
 





  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Can't use meat, although jerky might work for a little while.

 

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Is there anything that you cannot use to tie flies

 

Question I was asked yesterday as I grabbed some odd colors of plastic bead
chain that were going to be thrown away.

 

Rick 

 

 




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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Ah, the difference between meat  skin:) Make good zonkers too.

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Can't use meat, although jerky might work for a little whileŠ

You can use tanned meat (suede).  Makes great leeches.

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Everett Hall]

Reading these post makes me hungry.  Better get back under my rock.

Buck Hall
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 Can't use meat, although jerky might work for a little whileŠ
 
 You can use tanned meat (suede).  Makes great leeches.
 
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

That's why I have seven fly boxes.

 

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The only real rule in stocking a fly box is that it's a good idea to have a
few of anything that you might possibly ever need.  Don't listen to what
some may tell you about simplicity being a sign of advanced thinking.

 

Bill Logan  Autumn 2009  Fly Tyer

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

J.B., i've got 14 in my vestah, make that 13i seem to have 
lost one recently...my nymph box.just up and 
vanished...hope somebody found it.
 


From: jbal...@a5.com
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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:59:44 -0500





That’s why I have seven fly boxes.
 

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Rick Zieger
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:31 AM
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 





The only real rule in stocking a fly box is that it's a good idea to have a 
few of anything that you might possibly ever need.  Don't listen to what some 
may tell you about simplicity being a sign of advanced thinking.

 

Bill Logan  Autumn 2009  Fly Tyer

 

Rick 



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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

a lot of mine are quite small...
 


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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:23:02 -0500







My boxes are too big to have more the three or four in my vest, so I take the 
most likely  leave the rest in my bag. I don’t usually take my bass boxes to 
trout fish, although my bugger  larger bead heads go w/ for bothJ
 


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Mark Romero
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:12 AM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 
J.B., i've got 14 in my vestah, make that 13i seem to have 
lost one recently...my nymph box.just up and 
vanished...hope somebody found it.
 



From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:59:44 -0500

That’s why I have seven fly boxes.
 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Zieger
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:31 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld; HIll 
country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 





The only real rule in stocking a fly box is that it's a good idea to have a 
few of anything that you might possibly ever need.  Don't listen to what some 
may tell you about simplicity being a sign of advanced thinking.

 

Bill Logan  Autumn 2009  Fly Tyer

 

Rick 



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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

very cool that Ray didn't call it a sport.
 


Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:27:50 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
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Fish slowly and thoroughly.  Haste never paid dividends.  Don't worry about 
the fellow ahead of you.  If you start racing to get ahead of him, he'll 
probably try to beat you, and from then on it will be nothing but a foot-race 
instead of a contemplative and inspiring recreation.
 
quote of Ray Berman  Autumn 2009  Fly Tyer
 
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

He obviously never stripped an olive wooly bugger for bows.

 

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Fish slowly and thoroughly.  Haste never paid dividends.  Don't worry about
the fellow ahead of you.  If you start racing to get ahead of him, he'll
probably try to beat you, and from then on it will be nothing but a
foot-race instead of a contemplative and inspiring recreation.

 

quote of Ray Berman  Autumn 2009  Fly Tyer

 

Rick 




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[J Balmer]

Just this list is a contributing factor.

ION I'm back for the day, going back to Chicago tomorrow but I'll be back in
the evening. Major changes for Marcie's mom, but she's out of the hospital 
in rehab for a couple of weeks. Flies are in the mail, I'll make it up to
you guys when I get the chance.

 

J

 

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Any evidence  regarding the health of business is anecdotal, but according
to  knowledgeable people, sales of fly-tying tools and materials are
percolating along and may even be improving.

 

David Klausmeyer   Fall 2009  Fly Tyer

 

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[jim phillips]

From: markflie...@hotmail.com

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 
 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 08:22:21 -0600



Rick, let's hope that's true...sure as hell be a step in the right 
direction.if we could even get one fifth of the planets population 
to take up fly tying and Jazz.the world might, still have a chance. Might 
was the key word...you dig? 
 
to be more accuratethe Race MIGHT still have a chancethe ONLY 
race, Human Race. The planet goes on, wiff OR wiffout. Thank you very much. 
 


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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 08:41:09 -0500






Just this list is a contributing factor.
ION I’m back for the day, going back to Chicago tomorrow but I’ll be back in 
the evening. Major changes for Marcie’s mom, but she’s out of the hospital  in 
rehab for a couple of weeks. Flies are in the mail, I’ll make it up to you guys 
when I get the chance.
 
J
 

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Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:09 AM
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 





Any evidence  regarding the health of business is anecdotal, but according to  
knowledgeable people, sales of fly-tying tools and materials are percolating 
along and may even be improving.

 

David Klausmeyer   Fall 2009  Fly Tyer

 

Rick 



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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Best chum I ever had was ground up sardines.

 

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from Jim P

 

 from JIm P


“The best chum I ever had in fishing was a girl and she tramped just as hard 
and fished quite as patiently as any man I have ever known.” - Theodore Gordon, 
1890
 

 

Rick 

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Yep, I woulda said, they're in the water. 

 

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Subject: FW: [VFB] QFTD

 

Mark Sends

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 


Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:30:29 -0600

guy musta been a blonde..lmao
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_teeth.gif 
 

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The fish are either in the shallows or the deep water or someplace in
between. Anonymous

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

And some lines have big jerks…

 

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from JIm P

 

 
“As the fish strikes, the line has to be given a little jerk…the timing and the 
pressure have to be perfect - too soon or too late or too little or too much 
and the fish may have a sore mouth for a few days but will probably live longer 
for his experience.” - Norman Maclean
 

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Jimmy D. Moore]

ROTF ! I always heard that  a jerk on the fish end of the line was 
followed by a jerk at the other end.

JD

J Balmer wrote:

 And some lines have big jerks…

  

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 from JIm P

  

  
 “As the fish strikes, the line has to be given a little jerk…the 
 timing and the pressure have to be perfect - too soon or too late or 
 too little or too much and the fish may have a sore mouth for a few 
 days but will probably live longer for his experience.” - Norman Maclean
  

  

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[J Balmer]

I've got angles w/ a lot of men, but I only fish w/ a few.

 

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Mark sends

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 
Subject: RE: [VFB] QFTD
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:00:15 -0600

Rick, you GOTTA come over next time your in town.
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif 
 

  _  

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I know several hundred men. I prefer to angle with only four of them.: -
Fredric F. Van de Water, author 

 

Rick

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

I know people that fall like that.

 

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“Fish die belly up and rise to the surface; it is their way of falling.” Andre’ 
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[rene.zillm...@t-online.de]

My dog sleeps this way
Dog is great source for dubbing and winging too!
Rene

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I know people that fall like that. 

  

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from  Jim P         

         

“Fish die belly up and rise to the surface; it is their   way of
falling.” Andre’ Gide         

         

Rick         

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[VFB] Re: QFTD, DVD

[Don Ordes]

OK, Skunked again. :o(

Went over there, and the program would load up, then crash in 3 seconds. 
Tried a few different ways to load it, and all crashed.  He was in it 
yesterday OK, so he couldn't tell what was wrong.  He will work on it, burn 
a new DVD, and bring it over later this weekend.  He says it looks really 
good now with the new video pieces added.

DonO

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Rene, dog and cat fur are great for rope-dubbing.

On that, I'm headed over to do what should be the final review of the DVD.
Summer is the busy time for the videographer, so it's taking a little longer
than I planned.

I've had a couple of guys view it, and it's all been double-thumbs-up so
far.

DonO


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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD



My dog sleeps this way
Dog is great source for dubbing and winging too!
Rene

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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:43:16 +0200
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
From: J Balmer jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com



I know people that fall like that.



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from Jim P



“Fish die belly up and rise to the surface; it is their way of
falling.” Andre’ Gide



Rick

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[VFB] Re: QFTD, DVD

[J Balmer]

I sometimes feel like I have double thumbs. Looking forward to the DVD.

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Rene, dog and cat fur are great for rope-dubbing.

On that, I'm headed over to do what should be the final review of the DVD. 
Summer is the busy time for the videographer, so it's taking a little longer

than I planned.

I've had a couple of guys view it, and it's all been double-thumbs-up so 
far.

DonO


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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD



My dog sleeps this way
Dog is great source for dubbing and winging too!
Rene

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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
From: J Balmer jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com



I know people that fall like that.



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from Jim P



Fish die belly up and rise to the surface; it is their way of
falling. Andre' Gide



Rick

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[jim phillips]

from mark


May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 




Here Boy...come onnice little doggie
 
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 Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de
 
 
 My dog sleeps this way
 Dog is great source for dubbing and winging too!
 Rene
 
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 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:43:16 +0200
 Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 From: J Balmer jbal...@a5.com
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 
 
 
 I know people that fall like that. 
 
   
 
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 from  Jim P 
 
  
 
 “Fish die belly up and rise to the surface; it is their   way of
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 Rick 
 
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Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now.

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

While I do like sushi, I don’t eat bugs much.

 

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from Jim P

 

“Fishing is a cruel sport…how would you like it if fish and angler were 
reversed,: - Robert Hughes
 

 

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[the smith's]

Be like bitting into a big Mac and being dragged out into the street
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

You forgot the flask  the cigars.

 

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The definition of a perfect fishing partner: Someone who'll not only
corroborate your story (outrageous lie though it may be), but will actually
embellish it.

 

Tom Davis  The Little Book of FlyFishing

 

Rick




 

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[glwebb]

I can catch em' so small you can't even see em'!



   
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Just read my past posts on the Fish Slappers of Lake Taneycomo. I've also
had to move on other occasions because someone encroached while I was
wading, people in boats pulling up next to me  casting across where I was
fishing  worst of all, speed boats  personal water craft flying by.

It's not just fishing, either.

 

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Etiquette is something that is being lost, no matter what type of fishermen
you meet or where it happens.

 

Statement made to me.

 

Do you agree?

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Alan Di Somma]

I've never fished anything that small in warmwater.

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, Kidnapping is the new economy

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from a discussion board

Warmwater fly fishers do not use midges very much.

Is this true for warmwater fly fishers?

Rick 

   


  




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[J Balmer]

I'm a warm water fly fisher,  I use midges when I fish for trout.

 

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from a discussion board

 

Warmwater fly fishers do not use midges very much.

 

Is this true for warmwater fly fishers?

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Don Ordes]

How many of you actually keep a fishing journal?  
What do you use?
What information do you list?
Has it been beneficial?

DonO
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I couldn't tell which brand of caddis they might be, and didn't take 
time to collect any - one gets into these choices, when the travel schedule is 
a bit heavy and the fishing time is a bit short, between the desire to collect 
the insects upon which trout are feeding, or the conflicting desire to collect 
a tithe of the trout that are feeding on the insects, based on a guess about 
what the insects might be, and an estimation about which fly might match them.

Dave Hughes   FlyFishing and Tying Journal fall 2009 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD Now Fishing Log

[Anthony Spezio]

Don,
I did for about 10 years, never went back to read it.
Maybe some day I will open the pages and see how many times I fished and how 
many fish I caught on what flies.LOL I know I have page after page of fish 
caught on the Chili Pepper.
Tony

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From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:46 AM



 
 

How many of you actually keep a fishing 
journal?  
What do you use?
What information do you list?
Has it been beneficial?
 
DonO

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  AM
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I couldn't tell which brand of caddis they might be, and didn't 
take time to collect any - one gets into these choices, when the travel 
schedule is a bit heavy and the fishing time is a bit short, between 
the 
desire to collect the insects upon which trout are feeding, or the 
conflicting desire to collect a tithe of the trout that are feeding on 
the insects, based on a guess about what the insects might be, and an 
estimation about which fly might match them.
 
Dave Hughes   FlyFishing and Tying Journal fall 2009 

 
Rick 
  








  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

I used to keep a journal, but I haven't had that kind of time for a while.
IT was helpful when I tournament fished, but most of that info I keep in my
head now. Sort of. Halfsheimers you know. If you fish long enough, like
everything else you do long enough, a lot of that becomes ingrained. One way
it would help fly fishing is matching the hatch w/out capturing; if you have
enough data from the particular water, or type of water, weather conditions,
time of year  food sources for that location you'll have enough info to
come close. Knowing the terrain is more helpful to me now.

 

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Of Don Ordes
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:46 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

How many of you actually keep a fishing journal?  

What do you use?

What information do you list?

Has it been beneficial?

 

DonO

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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:32 AM

Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 


I couldn't tell which brand of caddis they might be, and didn't take time
to collect any - one gets into these choices, when the travel schedule is a
bit heavy and the fishing time is a bit short, between the desire to collect
the insects upon which trout are feeding, or the conflicting desire to
collect a tithe of the trout that are feeding on the insects, based on a
guess about what the insects might be, and an estimation about which fly
might match them.

 

Dave Hughes   FlyFishing and Tying Journal fall 2009 

 

Rick 


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FW: [VFB] Re: QFTD

[jim phillips]

For Mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:04:59 -0600



J.B., i've heard bout all the antics that go on there..not my cup of 
tea. 
 


From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:53:49 -0500







There’s a reason why we call it our Annual Trout Kicking Expedition besides the 
time I tripped over a rainbow. In the upper mile  a half, when the water’s low 
enough to wade, there can be twenty to thirty fish using you as a current 
break. If you stand still too long, the larger fish will bump your ankles 
trying to get you to move so you’ll turn the rocks. Last year the water was 
high most of the time  except for one day the only time we could wade was from 
5 AM until 7 or 7:30. Still caught lots of fish, so you should have fun. Watch 
for the fish slappers in the outlets near the dam, you’ll know what I’m talking 
about when you see them.
 
J
 


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jim phillips
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:22 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 
For Mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 Mark
Healing Waters is a GREAT ORG. I have sent them over 1000 flies from swaps of 
the last three years. Any extras are sent as well as most of the ones swapped. 
Also have donated over 2k in supplies, books tools for the VA in Reno. When I 
get better, I plan on teaching tying some simple flys (buggers. streamers, the 
usual, elk hair caddis, bead head nymphs and some mini jigs).
 
 
Just a side note: Over 1/2 of all veterans in the VA medical system have or 
have had Hep C.
There are other disibilites that agent orange is responsible also.

Subject: FW: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:42:51 -0600

only 5 hours sleep and still not awake yetlol
scroll down.
 
 Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:39:34 -0600

TKX. for the warning J.B. Misako and i are going to be part of a team working 
for Project Healing Waters from Sept. 18th thru the 21st on Taneycomo and in a 
classroom of some sort. We're teaching fly casting, fly fishing and fly tying 
to bout 50 vets. 
Should be fun and our lodging and food are bein' taken care of. Was a definate 
no-brainer when they contacted us.
I've heard the stories of big browns smackin' into people night fishin' there. 
We're in Branson farily often, but it'll be our first time to fish Taneycomo. 
Hope the vets do well. 
 



From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:43:10 -0500

Can’t be shiftless when wading Taneycomo, the bigger rainbows will knock you on 
your butt if you don’t move once in a while.
 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Zieger
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:28 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld; HIll 
country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 





from Mike Bliss

 

 

FISHING HAS A REPUTATION as an innocuous, fairly mindless pastime enjoyed most 
by shiftless people. Perhaps that impression would be lessened if nonfishers 
understood more about wild water. Calling fishing a hobby is like calling brain 
surgery a job. The average visitor driving through Yellowstone sees no farther 
than the surface of the water. At best the lakes and streams are mirrors 
reflecting the surrounding scenery. For the alert fisherman, especially the fly 
fisherman, the surface is not a mirror but a window.  Paul Schullery  
Mountain Time

 

Rick 



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FW: [VFB] Re: QFTD

[jim phillips]

For Mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:27:25 -0600



Don, i use to keep a fishing journal for a number of years...was pretty 
into it. This was all back in the days before on-line websites. But, as time 
went by.i just sorta stoped making the entries. Just not enough time in a 
day for everything...
 


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Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:46:25 -0600





How many of you actually keep a fishing journal?  
What do you use?
What information do you list?
Has it been beneficial?
 
DonO

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Zieger 
To: VFB ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; flyfishingworld ; 
HIll country 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:32 AM
Subject: [VFB] QFTD






I couldn't tell which brand of caddis they might be, and didn't take time to 
collect any - one gets into these choices, when the travel schedule is a bit 
heavy and the fishing time is a bit short, between the desire to collect the 
insects upon which trout are feeding, or the conflicting desire to collect a 
tithe of the trout that are feeding on the insects, based on a guess about what 
the insects might be, and an estimation about which fly might match them.
 
Dave Hughes   FlyFishing and Tying Journal fall 2009 
 
Rick 
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[the smith's]

I have keep one for many years.  Mine is more general about how our or my day 
went. lots of notes that have little to do directly with fishing , more of an 
overall corneal of the fishing experience.  I sometimes read mine to remember 
good friends and good times some are still here and some are long gone, but my 
notes bring them back to me.

Gary S.


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  From: Don Ordes 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:46 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  How many of you actually keep a fishing journal?  
  What do you use?
  What information do you list?
  Has it been beneficial?

  DonO
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Zieger 
To: VFB ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; flyfishingworld 
; HIll country 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:32 AM
Subject: [VFB] QFTD


  I couldn't tell which brand of caddis they might be, and didn't take 
time to collect any - one gets into these choices, when the travel schedule is 
a bit heavy and the fishing time is a bit short, between the desire to collect 
the insects upon which trout are feeding, or the conflicting desire to collect 
a tithe of the trout that are feeding on the insects, based on a guess about 
what the insects might be, and an estimation about which fly might match them.

  Dave Hughes   FlyFishing and Tying Journal fall 2009 

  Rick  




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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Cats don't kill fly fishing, people do.

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of jim phillips
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:04 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: [VFB] QFTD

 

For Mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 

  _  

From: markflie...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] QFTD
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:42:04 -0600

for those who've never been to thje Catskill Fly Fishing Center and
Museum..when you DO get thereask them to show you the little
Ed Zern area.
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif 
 

  _  

Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:49 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com;
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from JIm Phillips

 

Fishermen are born honest but they get over it. Ed Zern, The Hell with
Fishing, 1945
 

 

Rick 

 

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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Can't be shiftless when wading Taneycomo, the bigger rainbows will knock you
on your butt if you don't move once in a while.

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Zieger
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:28 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld;
HIll country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 


from Mike Bliss

 

 

FISHING HAS A REPUTATION as an innocuous, fairly mindless pastime enjoyed
most by shiftless people. Perhaps that impression would be lessened if
nonfishers understood more about wild water. Calling fishing a hobby is like
calling brain surgery a job. The average visitor driving through Yellowstone
sees no farther than the surface of the water. At best the lakes and streams
are mirrors reflecting the surrounding scenery. For the alert fisherman,
especially the fly fisherman, the surface is not a mirror but a window.  
Paul Schullery  Mountain Time

 

Rick 




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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

There's a reason why we call it our Annual Trout Kicking Expedition besides
the time I tripped over a rainbow. In the upper mile  a half, when the
water's low enough to wade, there can be twenty to thirty fish using you as
a current break. If you stand still too long, the larger fish will bump your
ankles trying to get you to move so you'll turn the rocks. Last year the
water was high most of the time  except for one day the only time we could
wade was from 5 AM until 7 or 7:30. Still caught lots of fish, so you should
have fun. Watch for the fish slappers in the outlets near the dam, you'll
know what I'm talking about when you see them.

 

J

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of jim phillips
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:22 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

For Mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 Mark
Healing Waters is a GREAT ORG. I have sent them over 1000 flies from swaps
of the last three years. Any extras are sent as well as most of the ones
swapped. Also have donated over 2k in supplies, books tools for the VA in
Reno. When I get better, I plan on teaching tying some simple flys (buggers.
streamers, the usual, elk hair caddis, bead head nymphs and some mini jigs).
 
 
Just a side note: Over 1/2 of all veterans in the VA medical system have or
have had Hep C.
There are other disibilites that agent orange is responsible also.

Subject: FW: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:42:51 -0600

only 5 hours sleep and still not awake yetlol
scroll down.
 
 Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:39:34 -0600

TKX. for the warning J.B. Misako and i are going to be part of a team
working for Project Healing Waters from Sept. 18th thru the 21st on
Taneycomo and in a classroom of some sort. We're teaching fly casting, fly
fishing and fly tying to bout 50 vets. 
Should be fun and our lodging and food are bein' taken care of. Was a
definate no-brainer when they contacted us.
I've heard the stories of big browns smackin' into people night fishin'
there. We're in Branson farily often, but it'll be our first time to fish
Taneycomo. Hope the vets do well.
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif 
 

  _  

From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:43:10 -0500

Can't be shiftless when wading Taneycomo, the bigger rainbows will knock you
on your butt if you don't move once in a while.

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Zieger
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:28 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld;
HIll country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 


from Mike Bliss

 

 

FISHING HAS A REPUTATION as an innocuous, fairly mindless pastime enjoyed
most by shiftless people. Perhaps that impression would be lessened if
nonfishers understood more about wild water. Calling fishing a hobby is like
calling brain surgery a job. The average visitor driving through Yellowstone
sees no farther than the surface of the water. At best the lakes and streams
are mirrors reflecting the surrounding scenery. For the alert fisherman,
especially the fly fisherman, the surface is not a mirror but a window.  
Paul Schullery  Mountain Time

 

Rick 




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FW: [VFB] Re: QFTD

[jim phillips]

For Mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
  


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
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Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:11:29 -0600



One of the All-Time best fly fishing books.as is the companion, Trout 
Magic. 
 


From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:33:31 -0500





What about string cheese?
 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Zieger
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:59 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld; HIll 
country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
 





from Jim Phillips

 

There is no substitute for fishing sense, and if a man doesn’t have it, 
verily, he may cast like an angel and still use his creel largely to transport 
sandwiches and beer” - Robert Traveler, Trout Madness 

 

Rick 



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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

Let’s open more jails!

 

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Rick Zieger
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:39 AM
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country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 


from JIm Phillips

 

“Regardless what you may think of our penal system, the fact is that every man 
in jail is one less potential fisherman to clutter up your favorite pool pond.” 
- Ed Zern, Field and Stream

 

Rick




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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

You should check out the fish slappers on Lake Taneycomo.

 

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the smith's
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:42 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

Don't think it would help much.. Most of those in jail lack the intelligence to 
be fishermen

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From: J Balmer mailto:jbal...@a5.com  

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:28 AM

Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

Let’s open more jails!

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Zieger
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:39 AM
To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld; HIll 
country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 


from JIm Phillips

 

“Regardless what you may think of our penal system, the fact is that every man 
in jail is one less potential fisherman to clutter up your favorite pool pond.” 
- Ed Zern, Field and Stream

 

Rick




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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

“Yeah, but you don’t need a baseball to fish.”

Rule No. 7, J’s Rules of Civilization.

 

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Rick Zieger
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:12 AM
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country
Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 


from Jim Phillips

 

The congeniality and tact and patience demanded by matrimony are great, but 
you still need more of each on a fishing trip”, -

 

 Fredric Van de Water, author

 

Rick 
 




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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Alan Di Somma]

Oh my!!


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, Kidnapping is the new economy

If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all.


  - Original Message - 
  From: J Balmer 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:50 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


  Sorry, that should be baseball bat…

   

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Of J Balmer
  Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:17 AM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

   

  “Yeah, but you don’t need a baseball to fish.”

  Rule No. 7, J’s Rules of Civilization.

   

  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Zieger
  Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:12 AM
  To: VFB; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; flyfishingworld; 
HIll country
  Subject: [VFB] QFTD

   

from Jim Phillips

 

The congeniality and tact and patience demanded by matrimony are 
great, but you still need more of each on a fishing trip”, -

 

 Fredric Van de Water, author

 

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My ex-wife doesn’t fish…

 

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the deadbeat ordered” - Thomas McQuane, Silent Seasons

 

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Some of both can smell in minutes.  JB

 

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