date:20140516

No, just picking up the phone and putting it to your ear will not pick  up a
call, you do have to use the 2-finger double tap as you said or double tap
on the Answer button.
There is a setting in SIRI which, if it is turned on, is supposed to start
SIRI if you bring the phone up to your ear, but I have never been able to
get this to work although it does apparently work for some people.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone behaving very oddly after immediately placing a call

Just reading this thread, so the phone will automatically answer a call if
you just pick it up and put it to your ear if it is ringing with an incoming
call?
I have been doing a two finger tap on the screen then answering and putting
the phone to my ear.

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Sent: 16 May 2014 03:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone behaving very oddly after immediately placing a call

Okay, sounds good be sure to let us know how it turns out.

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 15, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Shermeen Khan shermee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, everyone.

 mark, to clarify, the issue is mostly with outgoing calls--not incoming
ones.

 Thanks also for the recommendations about the proximity sensor. it 
 does seem, however, that my phone is particularly finicky in this 
 matter. I'm going to show it to an apple rep to see if anything can't 
 be done.

 Thanks again,
 Shermeen


 On 5/15/14, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know this may sound weird, but if I put my phone up to my ear to 
 quickly after tapping a contact then sometimes I have problems. I am 
 in the habit of making sure the call is connected before I bring the 
 phone to my ear. I am sure that I am weird and it's just me. :) I 
 really really have this problem if I have Siri make the call and I 
 put my phone up to my ear to quickly, it seems like Siri won't even 
 make the call sometimes. So, I just wait a bit before bringing my 
 phone up to my ear. Like I said, I believe this is just me and I'm 
 weird. :)

 Otherwise, I don't have any problems with my proximity sensor on my 
 iPhone 5S. I had major problems on my iPhone 4 though.

 HTH,
 Christina

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RE: Requesting Recommendations for either paid or free Dictionary Apps

2014-05-16 Thread M. Taylor

Hello and thank you all for your recommendations.  They were very helpful.

After experimenting with several free websites and free iOS apps, as I was
not willing to buy the Merriam Webster Collegiate Dictionary for 24.99 USD,
the most consistent and easiest to use cross-platform collegiate dictionary
that displays each syllable of a word, (accessible via VoiceOver) is a free
site called 
iWord.com  located at www.iword.com which, as it turns out, is developed
by Merriam-Webster.

Thanks Again,

Mark

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Apps

I don't know if this would work for you, but I use the dictionary app by
Farlex Inc.

Jenn

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 On May 15, 2014, at 2:24 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I am currently enrolled in the NFB's Braille Transcription/Proof 
 reading course.
 
 As such, I am in need of a good either free or paid iOS-ready, 
 VoiceOver accessible dictionary app, preferably collegiate, that will 
 diagram the syllables of words.
 
 Now I only have one Braille display and that is being used to enter 
 the Braille transcription code so I need a dictionary app that will 
 allow me to read, character-by-character via the VoiceOver Rotor, in 
 order to determine how the words are syllabically separated.
 
 Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated.  
 
 Mark
 
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Computer vs. I device

2014-05-16 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy

Hi folks,
I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do you 
use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any different 
on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike the iPhone, 
does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille but doesn't 
have an appropriate voice synthesizer?

Again, I hope this isn't too OT.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Computer vs. I device

My key concerns with this decision are - a filing system, ability to store 
and manipulate ones extensive legacy data set, and perhaps use of a full 
size keyboard on a flat surface.  iOs is good for the portability thing, but 
a real, if small real pc still has fundamental things I couldn't afford to 
lose.
I think basic editing, good as one thinks iOs is,  is still a pain in the 
doodaa compared to how we used to write with arror key navigation, insert at 
the point of your choosing, and stay there until you changed it with 
appropriate arrow/control keys, and so on. I can scribble mindlessly in 
Notepad,  hopefully ditto in Mac's equivalent;  and never got this freedon 
in iOs even yet, and despite what  has been said and done.
Ok, it can be done, it has been done, if you work at it long enough.

I'm all for having a real 'puter for the real work, even if we use our 
iDevices for the quick and immediate;  as feeder to the main work device.

JMO, RobH.
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From: Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:34 AM
Subject: Computer vs. I device


Hi folks,
I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do 
you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any 
different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike 
the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille 
but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?

Again, I hope this isn't too OT.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Computer vs. I device


Shalom, Hayah.
I am far from a Mac expert but I've used one, off and on, for a few 
years.  As to how the Mac's keyboard commands compares with screen 
readers such as JAWS, the differences are like comparing, no pun 
intended, apples and oranges.  OK, admittedly the pun was intended ...


I don't know if you've ever used a bluetooth keyboard with your 
iDevice.  If you have, it would be better to compare that experience 
with using a Mac because the commands are very similar and, in some 
cases, identical.  Contact me offlist if you have further questions.


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On 5/16/2014 5:34 AM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy wrote:

Hi folks,
I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do you 
use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any different 
on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike the iPhone, 
does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille but doesn't 
have an appropriate voice synthesizer?

Again, I hope this isn't too OT.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
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RE: Computer vs. I device

The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
Audio editing with GoldWave.
Web site creation and maintenance
Excel spreadsheets

Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.

I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
with headings, etc.  
The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making.
Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
arrow to stop interacting.

HTH,
Richard




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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Computer vs. I device

Hi folks,
I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike
the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille
but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?

Again, I hope this isn't too OT.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Computer vs. I device

Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly 
because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of 
keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign one 
yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and tons 
more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio editing, 
heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of things I do 
on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy as 
shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double tap 
edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap trash.

Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some 
areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of the 
mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of constant use. 
You eventually know that some items require interaction and some don't, and 
you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a two-finger flick right 
to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign the two commands to a 
keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use Quick Nav. The OP, and 
anyone else confused about Macs, should read the following articles:

Common Mac myths:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac

Getting started with VoiceOver:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover

Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets
 
 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
 
 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.  
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.
 
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
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 Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Computer vs. I device
 
 Hi folks,
 I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
 you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
 different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike
 the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille
 but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?
 
 Again, I hope this isn't too OT.
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Calendar appointment on the iphone 4S?

2014-05-16 Thread connie mohney

Thank you Joseph,.  This information is good to know.  I'm sure the more I use 
my iPhone I'll learn more things Seerie can do.
Connie

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 15, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Connie,
 
 Don't forget you can always fire up Siri and ask:
 
 show me all appointments.
 
 This also works for
 
 Show me all alarms.
 
 You can try other variations such as
 
 Show me all events.
 
 etc, etc. Smile.
 
 Joseph
 
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 From: connie mohney conniemoh...@sbcglobal.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:50 AM
 Subject: Calendar appointment on the iphone 4S?
 
 
 Good afternoon everyone,
 I just asked Seerie if she could schedule an appointment for me which she 
 did.  My question is, will a reminder alarm go off on the day of the 
 appointment to remind me I have an appointment that day or will I need to 
 keep checking my callandar to remind myself of the appointment.
 Thank you.
 Connie
 
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Re: Computer vs. I device

2014-05-16 Thread Kimber Gardner

Thanks for these links. I bought a MacAir a few years ago but couldn't
beat the learning curve and gave up on it. I still have it though and
one day would like to make the attempt once again. I am an old windows
user, like thirty years of windows, and the Mac just beat me.

Kimber

On 5/16/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio
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 trash.

 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of
 the mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of
 constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and
 some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a
 two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign
 the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use
 Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the
 following articles:

 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac

 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover

 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC
 than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets

 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.

 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you
 don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy
 making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.

 HTH,
 Richard




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 Hi folks,
 I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
 you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
 different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws?
 Unlike
 the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew
 Braille
 but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?

 Again, I hope this isn't too OT.

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Re: Computer vs. I device

I strongly encourage you to not give up on it. The automagic syncing of 
contacts, calendars, reminders, Safari tabs and bookmarks, text expanders, and 
more makes the Mac a great choice for those using iOS devices. I also can't 
recommend www.applevis.com highly enough; if you have questions, post them in 
the forums and you'll usually get helpful answers quite quickly. There is also 
the email list I'm on: macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com. Finally, 
don't forget you can always use a virtual machine solution, or Bootcamp, to put 
Windows on the Mac if you absolutely need to.

To get back on topic, I forgot to mention one other aspect of a computer over 
iOS: storage space. My iPhone has 16gb of space, which I could max out at 64gb 
if I had the money and need. However, my Mac Mini has 500gb. I can store all 
the music, movies, audio projects, podcasts, audio books, applications, and so 
forth I want to. Even if you have a new Macbook with the smaller, flash-based 
drives, you have more room than most iOS devices, even at the low end of the 
Mac line. Macs support external storage (networked or plugged in directly), 
with no need for special apps. yes, cloud storage can help with some of this, 
but what happens when the internet goes down or you run out of room? The 
cheapest cloud storage I know of is Google Drive, and even then, a few years of 
that and you could have bought a hard drive with more capacity. I understand 
that cloud storage offers its own advantages, and I do use it all the time. My 
point is simply that iOS devices and regular computers are meant for two 
different sets of tasks. If possible, get both, and have the best of both 
worlds.
On May 16, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for these links. I bought a MacAir a few years ago but couldn't
 beat the learning curve and gave up on it. I still have it though and
 one day would like to make the attempt once again. I am an old windows
 user, like thirty years of windows, and the Mac just beat me.
 
 Kimber
 
 On 5/16/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio
 editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of
 things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy
 as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double
 tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap
 trash.
 
 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of
 the mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of
 constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and
 some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a
 two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign
 the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use
 Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the
 following articles:
 
 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac
 
 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover
 
 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC
 than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets
 
 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
 
 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you
 don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy
 making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.
 
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
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OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON AMAZON!!!

2014-05-16 Thread Anthony Vece

Hi Everyone;

The subject line says it all.
I see this. all the time on Amazon.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

Anthony


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Re: Computer vs. I device


Kimber,
I realize that this topic is slowly beginning to deviate from the 
purpose of this list and so I somewhat hesitate to compose this on the 
list.  However, I feel that, if this can benefit you or someone else who 
is resisting the Mac, I'd like to take the risk. Frankly, I wish someone 
had told me some of what I'm about to write.
First, I'm also a user of Windows and have been using it since the 
mid-1990's.  I first got into playing with assistive tech in 1987 and 
began working in the field in 1991.  In general, I learn quickly and I 
like to think that I know how to teach what I know in a way that people 
can understand, without intimidating the student.  Consequently, when my 
employer first purchased an iMac for my classroom I was humbled, to say 
the least.  The Mac is very, very different from windows.  It's not 
quite like going from a Braille 'n Speak to a BrailleNote or from a 
victor Stream to a booksense where the same concepts apply but you're 
just using a slightly different set of commands with buttons in 
different places.  It's more like going from English to a foreign 
language like French.  Some of what you know in the English language 
will serve you and will make the transition somewhat easier but, in 
general, there comes a point where you can't depend on your knowledge of 
your first language in order to learn the second one.  You have to 
somehow let go and realize that French or another foreign language isn't 
English, will never be English and doesn't even try to present itself as 
English.  You'll be tempted to yell and rant that those stupid 
French-speaking people place the adjective in the wrong part of the 
sentence and that they have no concept of correct grammar and syntax and 
if only they could just speak the way you speak the world would revolve 
properly on its axis and all would be well.  The truth is, of course, 
that the native speaker of french might well be making the same 
complaint about our own language and they are no better or worse when it 
comes to grammar or syntax than we are; they're just different.
There are things about the Mac which, sometimes, translate from the 
perspective of Windows but only to a point.  You will be tempted to 
throw your Mac out the window and complain that Apple just doesn't get a 
clue and that they should be more like windows.  They won't and they 
don't try to be, for the most part. I had similar frustrations about the 
Mac for quite some time.  I'm still not to a point where I prefer it 
over windows but I've given it a chance and I at least understand why 
they do some of the things they do.  Sometimes, the keyboard shortcuts 
seem unintuitive but if I'm going to be honest I'd have to say that my 
beloved windows screen readers sometimes use keystrokes which are 
equally unintuitive but we never complain because we just got used to 
it.  Nobody wonders why alt-f4 is used to close a program in Windows, 
even though it's an odd choice and makes no sense. Actually, Microsoft 
probably chose it because if they chose a key like escape or alt-c for 
close we'd likely press them accidentally more often and we'd wind up 
unintentionally closing programs we didn't mean to close but it's still 
a bizarre choice for a key.
Admittedly, some of apple's choices are equally bizarre.  However, 
reading Alex's articles, along with listening to the tutorials from 
www.macfortheblind.com really helped me at least appreciate the Mac.  It 
has advantages over windows but I think it's at least worth pursuing if 
you're feeling adventurous.




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On 5/16/2014 11:06 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
I strongly encourage you to not give up on it. The automagic syncing 
of contacts, calendars, reminders, Safari tabs and bookmarks, text 
expanders, and more makes the Mac a great choice for those using iOS 
devices. I also can't recommend www.applevis.com 
http://www.applevis.com highly enough; if you have questions, post 
them in the forums and you'll usually get helpful answers quite 
quickly. There is also the email list I'm on: 
macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com. Finally, don't 
forget you can always use a virtual machine solution, or Bootcamp, to 
put Windows on the Mac if you absolutely need to.


To get back on topic, I forgot to mention one other aspect of a 
computer over iOS: storage space. My iPhone has 16gb of space, which I 
could max out at 64gb if I had the money and need. However, my Mac 
Mini has 500gb. I can store all the music, movies, audio projects, 
podcasts, audio books,

Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

2014-05-16 Thread Christina C.

Siri makes calls for me but now Siri always asks me which number. This used to 
only happen occasionally when a contact had more than one number but it seemed 
to always default to a specific number. I have no idea why in the past Siri 
would choose a particular phone number for a contact. However, recently, Siri 
always asks me which number. For example, now, when I ask Siri to call my Mom, 
Siri replies with Which number, mobile or home? Before the update, Siri always 
just called her mobile. Go figure. :)

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This is interesting.
I do have my brother as a contact, with both a number for home and one 
designated as iPhone.  When I tell Siri call my brother she always 
defaults to the iPhone number, which I suppose makes sense.
Aside from that benefit, what other advantages do you get when you list 
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On 5/16/2014 11:34 AM, Christina C. wrote:

Siri makes calls for me but now Siri always asks me which number. This used to only 
happen occasionally when a contact had more than one number but it seemed to always 
default to a specific number. I have no idea why in the past Siri would choose a 
particular phone number for a contact. However, recently, Siri always asks me which 
number. For example, now, when I ask Siri to call my Mom, Siri replies with 
Which number, mobile or home? Before the update, Siri always just called her 
mobile. Go figure. :)

Christina



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Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

2014-05-16 Thread Harry Bell

If the number is listed as iphone you can send free iMessages but if the same 
number is listed as a mobile you can only send costly text messages, I think. 
Harry

 

 On 16 May 2014, at 16:43, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 This is interesting.
 I do have my brother as a contact, with both a number for home and one 
 designated as iPhone.  When I tell Siri call my brother she always defaults 
 to the iPhone number, which I suppose makes sense.
 Aside from that benefit, what other advantages do you get when you list a 
 contact's number as being an iPhone number and not just a mobile number?
 
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 On 5/16/2014 11:34 AM, Christina C. wrote:
 Siri makes calls for me but now Siri always asks me which number. This used 
 to only happen occasionally when a contact had more than one number but it 
 seemed to always default to a specific number. I have no idea why in the 
 past Siri would choose a particular phone number for a contact. However, 
 recently, Siri always asks me which number. For example, now, when I ask 
 Siri to call my Mom, Siri replies with Which number, mobile or home? Before 
 the update, Siri always just called her mobile. Go figure. :)
 
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Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

2014-05-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Not true at all. These days it doesn't seem to make a difference. Maybe 
it did pre-iOS 6 though when phone numbers and/or email addresses 
associated with an Apple Id were independent of each other. As of iOS 6 
to the present they can be linked together.


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On 16/05/2014 16:49, Harry Bell wrote:

If the number is listed as iphone you can send free iMessages but if the same 
number is listed as a mobile you can only send costly text messages, I think. 
Harry




On 16 May 2014, at 16:43, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:

This is interesting.
I do have my brother as a contact, with both a number for home and one designated as 
iPhone.  When I tell Siri call my brother she always defaults to the iPhone 
number, which I suppose makes sense.
Aside from that benefit, what other advantages do you get when you list a 
contact's number as being an iPhone number and not just a mobile number?

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On 5/16/2014 11:34 AM, Christina C. wrote:
Siri makes calls for me but now Siri always asks me which number. This used to only 
happen occasionally when a contact had more than one number but it seemed to always 
default to a specific number. I have no idea why in the past Siri would choose a 
particular phone number for a contact. However, recently, Siri always asks me which 
number. For example, now, when I ask Siri to call my Mom, Siri replies with 
Which number, mobile or home? Before the update, Siri always just called her 
mobile. Go figure. :)

Christina


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RE: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

None as far as I can tell.


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Subject: Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

This is interesting.
I do have my brother as a contact, with both a number for home and one
designated as iPhone.  When I tell Siri call my brother she always
defaults to the iPhone number, which I suppose makes sense.
Aside from that benefit, what other advantages do you get when you list a
contact's number as being an iPhone number and not just a mobile number?

Feel free to visit my new Web site
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On 5/16/2014 11:34 AM, Christina C. wrote:
 Siri makes calls for me but now Siri always asks me which number. This 
 used to only happen occasionally when a contact had more than one 
 number but it seemed to always default to a specific number. I have no 
 idea why in the past Siri would choose a particular phone number for a 
 contact. However, recently, Siri always asks me which number. For 
 example, now, when I ask Siri to call my Mom, Siri replies with Which 
 number, mobile or home? Before the update, Siri always just called her 
 mobile. Go figure. :)

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RE: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

Harry,

That is not correct. iThe Messages app knows if a number is an iPhone and if
it is and if the subscriber has iMessage enabled and is connected to data
either via 3G or WiFi a text message will always be sent as an iMessage.
After all, how can I know if all my business contacts have an iPhone or not?

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Of Harry Bell
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

If the number is listed as iphone you can send free iMessages but if the
same number is listed as a mobile you can only send costly text messages, I
think. Harry

 

 On 16 May 2014, at 16:43, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone
viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 This is interesting.
 I do have my brother as a contact, with both a number for home and one
designated as iPhone.  When I tell Siri call my brother she always
defaults to the iPhone number, which I suppose makes sense.
 Aside from that benefit, what other advantages do you get when you list a
contact's number as being an iPhone number and not just a mobile number?
 
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 On 5/16/2014 11:34 AM, Christina C. wrote:
 Siri makes calls for me but now Siri always asks me which number. This
used to only happen occasionally when a contact had more than one number but
it seemed to always default to a specific number. I have no idea why in the
past Siri would choose a particular phone number for a contact. However,
recently, Siri always asks me which number. For example, now, when I ask
Siri to call my Mom, Siri replies with Which number, mobile or home? Before
the update, Siri always just called her mobile. Go figure. :)
 
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Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

2014-05-16 Thread Harry Bell

Thanks, Sieghard, that sounds more reassuring! Harry

 

 On 16 May 2014, at 16:56, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Harry,
 
 That is not correct. iThe Messages app knows if a number is an iPhone and if
 it is and if the subscriber has iMessage enabled and is connected to data
 either via 3G or WiFi a text message will always be sent as an iMessage.
 After all, how can I know if all my business contacts have an iPhone or not?
 
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 Of Harry Bell
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 8:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update
 
 If the number is listed as iphone you can send free iMessages but if the
 same number is listed as a mobile you can only send costly text messages, I
 think. Harry
 
 
 
 On 16 May 2014, at 16:43, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 This is interesting.
 I do have my brother as a contact, with both a number for home and one
 designated as iPhone.  When I tell Siri call my brother she always
 defaults to the iPhone number, which I suppose makes sense.
 Aside from that benefit, what other advantages do you get when you list a
 contact's number as being an iPhone number and not just a mobile number?
 
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.DavidGoldfield.info
 
 Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573
 
 visit my blog
 http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com
 
 Follow me on Twitter
 http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield
 
 
   David Goldfield,
  Founder and Peer Coordinator
 
  Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 
 On 5/16/2014 11:34 AM, Christina C. wrote:
 Siri makes calls for me but now Siri always asks me which number. This
 used to only happen occasionally when a contact had more than one number but
 it seemed to always default to a specific number. I have no idea why in the
 past Siri would choose a particular phone number for a contact. However,
 recently, Siri always asks me which number. For example, now, when I ask
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Re: Weather Channel App

2014-05-16 Thread Sarah Butler

Thank you Joseph!

On Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:57:42 PM UTC-4, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

Hi all,

some time ago I found a very accessible and very informative weather app
called Fahrenheit. It shows the current temperature on the home screen, so
if you swipe to this app or place it somewhere on your home screen where
you
can quickly tap on it, the current temperature will show. For example:
Fahrenheit 70, or Fahrenheit 86, etc.

Since this app is incredibly accessible, you can add as many cities as you
want and use a 3 finger swipe from left to right and vice versa in order
to
access the current weather and forecast for any city you have configured
such as temperature in your city, or temp in New York, or temp in whatever
city you'd like. On the main screen associate with your city, the current
temperature is shown at the very top of the screen so it is easy to
acquire
the desired information, but below is also the forecast for what I believe
is the next 2 weeks. Amazingly, this app is only $1.

I will sate up front there's a little quirk in that on your Home screen
you
will not hear Fahrenheit 99 degrees, you will hear Fahrenheit 99 new
items.
I don't know why it is saying new items but since all I care is about
the
temperature, this quirk doesn't bug me in the least. Smile.

Here is more iTunes store info:

Description

Fahrenheit displays the temperature on your Home Screen icon, Notification
Center and Lock Screen.

Fahrenheit is a stunning weather application that uses latest technology
to
show you the current temperature of any location right on your iPhone/iPad
Home Screen! Beyond the real-time temperature on the Home Screen
Fahrenheit
also is the number one weather application giving you very detailed
weather
information of unlimited cities world wide, packed in a gorgeous design
and
easy-to-use user interface!

LOCKSCREEN NOTIFICATION CENTER
Now, in addition to the temperature badge, you can set up the app to
notify
you of any changes in the weather as they happen, right in the Lockscreen
and Notification Center.

It works really easy. We have Notification Setting that allows you to
receive a Popup/Banner alert from our Push Server. This alert will also
appear in the Notification Center and Lockscreen to show the temperature
of
the last update. You can set the number of notifications as you prefer
(max
1, max 5 etc) in the iPad/iPhone general settings.

TEMPERATURE IN THE ICON BADGE
Fahrenheit is backed by an online web server that uses Push Technology to
push the current temperature of any location to your iDevice. This makes
it
possible to always automatically have the up-to-date temperature displayed
in the red badge at the top-right of the Fahrenheit icon on your Home
Screen. Fahrenheit supports all iOS Devices: iPhone 4s/4, iPhone 3Gs/3G,
iPad 2, iPad and all iPod Touch devices!

It is not possible to display the temperature in Celsius. You have to
download the Celsius application instead.

FULL FEATURED WEATHER APPLICATION
Fahrenheit brings you all weather information available for every location
in the world and a 10-day forecast. In addition to these powerful
forecasting features, Fahrenheit provides more comprehensive weather
information. This includes detailed information regarding cloud cover and
rainfall totals. Fahrenheit also gives users information about sunrise and
sunset times. Many users also enjoy the real time wind direction feature,
which utilizes a display arrow on screen to indicate the wind direction at
any time thanks to the built in magnetometer.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fahrenheit-weather-temperature/id426939660?mt=8ign-mpt=uo%3D8

Plese let me know if you have any questions.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Vicki Howell vick...@comcast.net javascript:
To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: Weather Channel App

No, Scott, you didn't do anything wrong. The Weather channel app is no
longer accessible for the blind, but there is an app called Degrees. I
think that it may cost $.99, but I think that it is very good. I am
trying
to remember if it is $99, or $1.99. I got this app last week. My husband
found it and told me how good it was. So, that may be an option for you
and
others looking for a Weather App.

-Original Message-
From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf
Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:57 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:
Subject: Re: Weather Channel App

Yes, it's no longer accessible, currently the only work around is to use a
different app.
Original message:

Hi,

Sense the update to the Weather Channel app, two or three weeks ago, I
have found it to be inaccessible with VO. Have others noticed

Re: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON AMAZON!!!

The difference is the non retail packaging is a cardboard box verses bubble 
or blister packaging.  There is no difference in price so it comes down to 
an environmental issue.  Personally, I prefer the non retail packaging 
myself.  It's easier by far to open.


HTH



Regards,

Alan

Daddy, what does format complete mean?
Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com

To: blind viphone Mailing List viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 8:27 AM
Subject: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON 
AMAZON!!!



Hi Everyone;

The subject line says it all.
I see this. all the time on Amazon.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

Anthony


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

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RE: Computer vs. I device

Alex,

Thanks for the resources.

Macs are more productive for you.

I have used computers since the Commodore 64 in the early 1980's. 

For me personally, I find Windows a more productive environment but I know
there are tons of Mac users that feel the same about Macs.  I'm very glad
that both exist along with Linux and whatever else is out there.

One size does not fit all and I'm not saying one is always better than the
other, I was merely expressing a personal statement in response to a
question.

 

I have already referred a client to the list of resources you gave and will
continue to encourage folks to find the system that works best for them.

 

But I Will say, the iPhone is the best portable device since sliced bread,
grin.

 

Richard'

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device

 

Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly
because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of
keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign
one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and
tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio
editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of
things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy
as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double
tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap
trash.

 

Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some
areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of
the mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of
constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and
some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a
two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign
the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use
Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the
following articles:

 

Common Mac myths:

http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voi
ceover-mac

 

Getting started with VoiceOver:

http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-vo
iceover

 

Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:

http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac 

On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
mailto:rich...@turner42.com  wrote:





The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
Audio editing with GoldWave.
Web site creation and maintenance
Excel spreadsheets

Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.

I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
with headings, etc.  
The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making.
Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
arrow to stop interacting.

HTH,
Richard




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Computer vs. I device

Hi folks,
I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike
the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille
but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?

Again, I hope this isn't too OT.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Computer vs. I device

Certainly, Macs are not for everyone. I say they offer more productivity 
because:
* it's easy to assign custom keyboard shortcuts to menu items
* you can type out symbols like bullet, degrees, and so on with no special 
characters panel or anything
* there are commands to transpose two characters, delete by word and line, and 
more
* Applescript lets you do a *lot*. For instance, a friend wanted to be able to 
type in a term, have his sent mail folder searched, and copy all the addresses 
any matching emails were sent to copied out. In 45 minutes, I wrote up a script 
to do exactly that.
* VoiceOver includes several commanders that let you do tons of things in tons 
of ways, all customizable

Yes, Windows has the Mac beat in other areas. Chicken Nugget is a great Twitter 
client, and other software from Q-continuum.net is Windows-only. Word is better 
in some ways and is a better choice for some people. Overall, though, it is up 
to the individual to do the research, talk to users of both, and figure out 
which is best. My feeling, though, is that anyone who needs to do a lot of 
typing or run desktop-only apps should not try to force an iOS device into the 
role of a computer. They are meant for different things, so both should be used 
if possible.
On May 16, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 Alex,
 Thanks for the resources.
 Macs are more productive for you.
 I have used computers since the Commodore 64 in the early 1980's.
 For me personally, I find Windows a more productive environment but I know 
 there are tons of Mac users that feel the same about Macs.  I'm very glad 
 that both exist along with Linux and whatever else is out there.
 One size does not fit all and I'm not saying one is always better than the 
 other, I was merely expressing a personal statement in response to a question.
  
 I have already referred a client to the list of resources you gave and will 
 continue to encourage folks to find the system that works best for them.
  
 But I Will say, the iPhone is the best portable device since sliced bread, 
 grin.
  
 Richard'
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device
  
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly 
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of 
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign 
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and 
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio 
 editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of 
 things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy 
 as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double 
 tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap 
 trash.
  
 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some 
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of the 
 mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of constant 
 use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and some don't, 
 and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a two-finger flick 
 right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign the two commands 
 to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use Quick Nav. The 
 OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the following articles:
  
 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac
  
 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover
  
 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 
 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets
 
 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
 
 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.  
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.
 
 HTH,
 Richard

Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update

I believe that when you indicate a number as an iPhone verses a mobile that 
this has priority over the mobile number.  My son has 2 cell phones one for 
personal use and the other for work.  I entered his personal cell phone 
number as iPhone even though it is an android phone.  Works just fine.


Regards,

Alan

Daddy, what does format complete mean?
Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


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From: 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: SIRI says she cannot call some contacts since 7.1.1 IOS update


This is interesting.
I do have my brother as a contact, with both a number for home and one
designated as iPhone.  When I tell Siri call my brother she always
defaults to the iPhone number, which I suppose makes sense.
Aside from that benefit, what other advantages do you get when you list
a contact's number as being an iPhone number and not just a mobile number?

Feel free to visit my new Web site
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On 5/16/2014 11:34 AM, Christina C. wrote:
Siri makes calls for me but now Siri always asks me which number. This 
used to only happen occasionally when a contact had more than one number 
but it seemed to always default to a specific number. I have no idea why 
in the past Siri would choose a particular phone number for a contact. 
However, recently, Siri always asks me which number. For example, now, 
when I ask Siri to call my Mom, Siri replies with Which number, mobile or 
home? Before the update, Siri always just called her mobile. Go figure. :)


Christina



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Re: Computer vs. I device

oMg!...   the bit about the mail is classic, do real work on a real Pc and 
the more casual stuff on the iOs device.
This pretty well sums up what I was trying to put over; so there's at least 
3 of us now saying approximately the same.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device

Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly 
because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of 
keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign 
one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and 
tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio 
editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of 
things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy 
as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double 
tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap 
trash.

Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some 
areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of 
the mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of 
constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and 
some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a 
two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign 
the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use 
Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the 
following articles:

Common Mac myths:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac

Getting started with VoiceOver:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover

Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets

 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.

 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy 
 making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.

 HTH,
 Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Computer vs. I device

 Hi folks,
 I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
 you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
 different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? 
 Unlike
 the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew 
 Braille
 but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?

 Again, I hope this isn't too OT.

 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Computer vs. I device

2014-05-16 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy

What about my other questions?

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

 On May 16, 2014, at 19:50, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Alex,
 Thanks for the resources.
 Macs are more productive for you.
 I have used computers since the Commodore 64 in the early 1980’s.
 For me personally, I find Windows a more productive environment but I know 
 there are tons of Mac users that feel the same about Macs.  I’m very glad 
 that both exist along with Linux and whatever else is out there.
 One size does not fit all and I’m not saying one is always better than the 
 other, I was merely expressing a personal statement in response to a question.
  
 I have already referred a client to the list of resources you gave and will 
 continue to encourage folks to find the system that works best for them.
  
 But I Will say, the iPhone is the best portable device since sliced bread, 
 grin.
  
 Richard’
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device
  
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly 
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of 
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign 
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and 
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio 
 editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of 
 things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy 
 as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double 
 tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap 
 trash.
  
 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some 
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of the 
 mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of constant 
 use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and some don't, 
 and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a two-finger flick 
 right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign the two commands 
 to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use Quick Nav. The 
 OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the following articles:
  
 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac
  
 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover
  
 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 
 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets
 
 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
 
 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.  
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.
 
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Computer vs. I device
 
 Hi folks,
 I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
 you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
 different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike
 the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille
 but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?
 
 Again, I hope this isn't too OT.
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Computer vs. I device

I have to endorse all this. storage, at an economic price is an issue;  and 
for those who're long time pc users, with tons of material they need to 
keep;  there's nothing to beat your own real hard disk to put it on.  USB 
based secondary ones for backup are good and straight forward too.

So a pc still has a big place in our lives, despite the progress on 
handheld.

RobH.

- Original Message - 
From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device


I strongly encourage you to not give up on it. The automagic syncing of 
contacts, calendars, reminders, Safari tabs and bookmarks, text expanders, 
and more makes the Mac a great choice for those using iOS devices. I also 
can't recommend www.applevis.com highly enough; if you have questions, post 
them in the forums and you'll usually get helpful answers quite quickly. 
There is also the email list I'm on: 
macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com. Finally, don't forget you can 
always use a virtual machine solution, or Bootcamp, to put Windows on the 
Mac if you absolutely need to.

To get back on topic, I forgot to mention one other aspect of a computer 
over iOS: storage space. My iPhone has 16gb of space, which I could max out 
at 64gb if I had the money and need. However, my Mac Mini has 500gb. I can 
store all the music, movies, audio projects, podcasts, audio books, 
applications, and so forth I want to. Even if you have a new Macbook with 
the smaller, flash-based drives, you have more room than most iOS devices, 
even at the low end of the Mac line. Macs support external storage 
(networked or plugged in directly), with no need for special apps. yes, 
cloud storage can help with some of this, but what happens when the internet 
goes down or you run out of room? The cheapest cloud storage I know of is 
Google Drive, and even then, a few years of that and you could have bought a 
hard drive with more capacity. I understand that cloud storage offers its 
own advantages, and I do use it all the time. My point is simply that iOS 
devices and regular computers are meant for two different sets of tasks. If 
possible, get both, and have the best of both worlds.
On May 16, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Thanks for these links. I bought a MacAir a few years ago but couldn't
 beat the learning curve and gave up on it. I still have it though and
 one day would like to make the attempt once again. I am an old windows
 user, like thirty years of windows, and the Mac just beat me.

 Kimber

 On 5/16/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can 
 assign
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio
 editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions 
 of
 things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as 
 easy
 as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you 
 double
 tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap
 trash.

 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in 
 some
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of
 the mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of
 constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and
 some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a
 two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, 
 assign
 the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or 
 use
 Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the
 following articles:

 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac

 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover

 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac 
 users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC
 than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets

 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.

 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.
 The business of having

Re: Computer vs. I device

Ok, love the foreign language analogy. As good a way of putting it as any.
remember, iOs was that different, we managed!

BTW:  the magic track pad gives you very iOs like access too.

RobH.

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deleted for brevity.

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Re: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON AMAZON!!!

Suggests to me the difference with software between OEM and retail which is 
to say - OEM is volume sale in minimal presentation packaging and priced for 
volume sale.
retails is presented more expensively and priced for individual sale.

A trader that picked up the end of a non-retail batch should be able to 
offer at the volume price, though suspect it is breaking some trading clause 
to do so.

RobH.
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:27 PM
Subject: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON 
AMAZON!!!


Hi Everyone;

The subject line says it all.
I see this. all the time on Amazon.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

Anthony


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Re: automatic reading in ibooks on a braille display

2014-05-16 Thread Jane

Nope, it is not possible to automatically scroll in iBooks, no matter what 
display you use. I wish it were--that/s the one thing I think Apple could add.  
 Then again there are times when the display doesn't advance properly, so 
perhaps auto-scrolling would not be best. Not sure.

Jane




On May 15, 2014, at 10:56 PM, Holly Anderson dhsho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all, I got my refreshabraille today, I'm very happy with it.  I have a 
 question about using it with ibooks.  Obviously since its 18 cells there is a 
 lot of scrolling.  Is there anyway to auto scroll the display when reading in 
 ibooks?  I did some preliminary research, and I'm thinking no, but I just 
 wanted to make sure.  People who have this display, have you found a 
 comfortable way to constantly hit the pan right button, I feel like its 
 twisting my hand in knots to try and do it.  Any tips for using ibooks would 
 be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks.
 Holly
 
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Re: Computer vs. I device

Which questions have not yet been answered? With all of the tangential 
discussion, I don't remember what we may have missed.
On May 16, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 
hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:

 What about my other questions?
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 16, 2014, at 19:50, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Alex,
 Thanks for the resources.
 Macs are more productive for you.
 I have used computers since the Commodore 64 in the early 1980's.
 For me personally, I find Windows a more productive environment but I know 
 there are tons of Mac users that feel the same about Macs.  I'm very glad 
 that both exist along with Linux and whatever else is out there.
 One size does not fit all and I'm not saying one is always better than the 
 other, I was merely expressing a personal statement in response to a 
 question.
  
 I have already referred a client to the list of resources you gave and will 
 continue to encourage folks to find the system that works best for them.
  
 But I Will say, the iPhone is the best portable device since sliced bread, 
 grin.
  
 Richard'
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device
  
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly 
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of 
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign 
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and 
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio 
 editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of 
 things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy 
 as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double 
 tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap 
 trash.
  
 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some 
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of 
 the mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of 
 constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and 
 some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a 
 two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign 
 the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use 
 Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the 
 following articles:
  
 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac
  
 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover
  
 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 
 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets
 
 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
 
 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.  
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.
 
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Computer vs. I device
 
 Hi folks,
 I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
 you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
 different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike
 the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille
 but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?
 
 Again, I hope this isn't too OT.
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON AMAZON!!!

2014-05-16 Thread Petty, Richard

In many cases, Amazon offers non-retail packaging. Often customer reviews of
these products seem to point to problems with the items.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of RobH.
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON
AMAZON!!!

Suggests to me the difference with software between OEM and retail which is
to say - OEM is volume sale in minimal presentation packaging and priced for
volume sale.
retails is presented more expensively and priced for individual sale.

A trader that picked up the end of a non-retail batch should be able to
offer at the volume price, though suspect it is breaking some trading clause
to do so.

RobH.
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Hi Everyone;

The subject line says it all.
I see this. all the time on Amazon.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

Anthony


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Re: Computer vs. I device

Sorry, you're right, we only answered the bits we had much clue about.
A Mac has VoiceOver provided as part of the system, like iOs.  windows would 
need open wallet surgery to buy JAWS.

No idea about hebrew, do we know if JAWS can do that even?

rh.
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Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device


What about my other questions?

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy

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Re: Computer vs. I device

I'm not sure, sorry. I think Apple can answer that, though, if you give them a 
call.
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 Sorry, you're right, we only answered the bits we had much clue about.
 A Mac has VoiceOver provided as part of the system, like iOs.  windows would 
 need open wallet surgery to buy JAWS.
 
 No idea about hebrew, do we know if JAWS can do that even?
 
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Re: how to move pictures from you iPhone for keeping somewhere else

When I take pictures on my iPhone and want to keep them with the rest of my 
pictures, I plug my sync data cable in to my computer.  My iPhone shows up as 
another drive in windows.  I then navigate to that drive letter and all the 
pictures I've taken are there.  A control A to select all, a control X to move 
them and a control V to paste them to my external hard drive where the rest of 
my pictures are stored.

HTH


Alan

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 I'm on a mac and I've never seen this dialog pop up. Also, I just helped a 
 friend on her backup her iPhone on a PC because she had never done it in 
 three years and didn't know how. She also wanted to get her pictures off of 
 her phone and we never got a dialog box that asked us to import the pictures. 
 We still do not know how to get the pictures off of her iPhone and onto her 
 PC.
 
 Christina
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 Here is how you import photos. 
 First plug you're phone in to you're computer. 
 Next dialog will pop asking you do you want to import photos automatically 
 the check box is checked by default if you are on a mac. 
 Next choose start import and the photos will importing.
 isaac
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 Skype gold_wildcat 
 
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 Hi okay I have pictures on my iPhone.
 And I would like to move them and have them for keeping somewhere else.
 So how can this be done and also made if I would like to send them to 
 someone or whatever?
 What is the easiest way to do this?
 
 
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looking for an accessible, memory clean-up app, to free up disc space, on iPhone 4s

2014-05-16 Thread David


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Question about adding contacts using outlook

2014-05-16 Thread gracewellness


Hello,

I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone. My 
question is

Should I include the dash in the phone number?
Thanks,
Rena 


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RE: Question about adding contacts using outlook

I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country Code
then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone number
separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone number I put as
follows:

+1 (212) 555-1234

Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine, here
in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I believe in the
States that is coming as well.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Hello,

I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone. My 
question is
Should I include the dash in the phone number?
Thanks,
Rena 

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Add blocking apps

2014-05-16 Thread Wayne Merritt

Greetings. When browsing through the AppleVis site I came across an ad
blocking app called AdBlock, which costs $0.99. It seeks to block ads
in apps and from Safari. The AppleVis app review link is:
http://applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/adblock
AdBlock works on both wifi and cellular connections. After installed,
I had to turn off VoiceOver, then swipe up, then turn VoiceOver back
on in order to enable the ad blocking process. According to the
AppleVis review, this is one of those apps that you set and forget,
though some comments on AppleVis said that you may want to disable it
on some websites in order for the site to show/load properly.
The developer of AdBlock makes a more general ad blocking app called
Weblock, which is available for $1.99. The difference between AdBlock
and Weblock is Weblock works only on wifi, however it looks to be much
more customizable. For instance, you can set it up to not show the
Facebook like and comment buttons on websites, as well as many other
things. Has anyone heard of these apps? The iTunes app review for
Weblock is:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/weblock-adblock-for-ios/id558818638?mt=8

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Re: looking for an accessible, memory clean-up app, to free up disc space, on iPhone 4s

I use iClean.  I have no idea if it's still in the App Store.

Alan

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Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

I have some contacts with the dash and others with out it.  It doesn't seem to 
matter.

HTH


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 Should I include the dash in the phone number?
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Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

Your quite correct my friend it is coming.  Ever sense I've had a cell phone 
I'v always used the country and area code along with the 7 digit phone number.  
That way I could use my phone where ever I go with in the country,.

Alan

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 I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country Code
 then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone number
 separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone number I put as
 follows:
 
 +1 (212) 555-1234
 
 Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine, here
 in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I believe in the
 States that is coming as well.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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RE: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON AMAZON!!!

Hi,

There is a difference between retail packaging, non-retail packaging which
Amazon also calls frustration free packaging and bulk packaging. Below is
a link from Amazon.ca regarding the use of frustration free packaging. I
think the term frustration free is a good one because I often bought
something and was quite frustrated by the way it was packaged especially
when it almost takes a pound of dynamite or the use of a machete to get into
it.

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8nodeId=200939420

Next is a link to search results for the Plantronics Voyager Legend headset
on Amazon, if you check out the results you will find that it is available
in 3 package choices:

Frustration free packaging for $99.99 on sale for $69.99
Bulk packaging for $59.99
Retail packaging for $99.99 on sale for $69.99

Often the price of an item for retail packaging and frustration free
packaging is the same and it's the bulk packaging items one has to be
careful about as they are often not quite the same. Here is the link for
those who want to check it out:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=srs%3D8886508011%26search-alias%3
Dspecialty-apsfield-keywords=plantronics+voyager+legendrh=i%3Aspecialty-ap
s%2Ck%3Aplantronics+voyager+legend

Below are some of the Amazon reviews from the bulk packaging item:

BULK, incomplete item without extra rubbers and AC adapter
By  Carlitos   on December 8, 2013
BULK, incomplete item without extra rubbers and AC adapter, it should be
specified in the description.

Good, but be aware of the Bulk packaging
By Tom Vollick   on February 1, 2014
This is my second Voyager Legend - I lost the first one. The unit itself is
pretty good, the support crew is superior to most. Be advised if you get the
Bulk Packaging one you get the head set and the charger, THAT'S IT ! My
first one was the Retail version, although the headsets are than same,
with the retail you get instructions, different size earbuds and ear
cushions. You get none of that with the bulk. Also you must go to their
website to get any instruction on how to activate it. I had to call them to
get the proper ear buds and cushions.

Be cautious when you buy a new bulk package from 100% positive feedback
online store!
By  Shuzhi Teng   on December 10, 2013
The new bulk package Plantronic Voyager Legend BT Headset I received is
apparently NOT new, it looks not months old, but years old! I tried to wipe
out the scratch marks all over the outside of the rubber area with my
finger tip, no use. I'd upload the picture of it if I know how. I've been
shopping with Amazon for many years but this is my first time to receive a
used new item from a seller, one having 100% positive feedback! What a
shame!

Great headset, bulk packaging is sad. Returned it
By  chandan gv   on February 13, 2014
The headset is great but bulk packaging is sad. I actually received a used
headset with a lot of scratches on it. Thanks to Amazon Prime, I returned it
hassle free.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON
AMAZON!!!

In many cases, Amazon offers non-retail packaging. Often customer reviews of
these products seem to point to problems with the items.

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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON
AMAZON!!!

Suggests to me the difference with software between OEM and retail which is
to say - OEM is volume sale in minimal presentation packaging and priced for
volume sale.
retails is presented more expensively and priced for individual sale.

A trader that picked up the end of a non-retail batch should be able to
offer at the volume price, though suspect it is breaking some trading clause
to do so.

RobH.
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To: blind viphone Mailing List viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:27 PM
Subject: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON
AMAZON!!!


Hi Everyone;

The subject line says it all.
I see this. all the time on Amazon.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

Anthony


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Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

2014-05-16 Thread gracewellness

I agree about the area code, but I wonder about the number 1. I never dial 1 
before the number when using the cell phone. And now that my home phone is 
from a cable company I don't need to dial the number 1 either.

What is the reason for the plus sign and the number 1?
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

Your quite correct my friend it is coming.  Ever sense I've had a cell phone 
I'v always used the country and area code along with the 7 digit phone 
number.  That way I could use my phone where ever I go with in the country,.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On May 16, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country Code
then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone number
separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone number I put as
follows:

+1 (212) 555-1234

Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine, here
in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I believe in 
the

States that is coming as well.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Of gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about adding contacts using outlook

Hello,

I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone. 
My

question is
Should I include the dash in the phone number?
Thanks,
Rena

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RE: Question about adding contacts using outlook

2014-05-16 Thread Lois Butterfield

I never use a 1, though I notice that it is spoken when dialing a long
distance call.  I type the area code and number all together without spaces
or dashes.  I've never had trouble.  Your phone knows what to do to get
through.

Lois


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Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

I agree about the area code, but I wonder about the number 1. I never dial 1

before the number when using the cell phone. And now that my home phone is 
from a cable company I don't need to dial the number 1 either.
What is the reason for the plus sign and the number 1?
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook


Your quite correct my friend it is coming.  Ever sense I've had a cell phone

I'v always used the country and area code along with the 7 digit phone 
number.  That way I could use my phone where ever I go with in the country,.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On May 16, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country Code
 then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone number
 separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone number I put as
 follows:

 +1 (212) 555-1234

 Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine, here
 in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I believe in 
 the
 States that is coming as well.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


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 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Question about adding contacts using outlook

 Hello,

 I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone. 
 My
 question is
 Should I include the dash in the phone number?
 Thanks,
 Rena

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RE: Question about adding contacts using outlook

If you call long distance you typically have to dial the number 1 in front
of your area code and number. I like to put it in the number because even
local numbers will be long distance if I am elsewhere in the country on a
holiday or business trip.


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Of gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

I agree about the area code, but I wonder about the number 1. I never dial 1
before the number when using the cell phone. And now that my home phone is
from a cable company I don't need to dial the number 1 either.
What is the reason for the plus sign and the number 1?
- Original Message -
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook


Your quite correct my friend it is coming.  Ever sense I've had a cell phone
I'v always used the country and area code along with the 7 digit phone
number.  That way I could use my phone where ever I go with in the country,.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On May 16, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country 
 Code then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone 
 number separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone number 
 I put as
 follows:

 +1 (212) 555-1234

 Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine, 
 here in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I 
 believe in the States that is coming as well.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


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 I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone. 
 My
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 Should I include the dash in the phone number?
 Thanks,
 Rena

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Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

2014-05-16 Thread gracewellness

Yes, I used to dial the number 1 in my home phone, but now my cable phone 
doesn't require that. I never dial the 1 when using the cell phone. I have 
free roaming, so it doesn't matter where I am.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: Question about adding contacts using outlook


If you call long distance you typically have to dial the number 1 in front
of your area code and number. I like to put it in the number because even
local numbers will be long distance if I am elsewhere in the country on a
holiday or business trip.


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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

I agree about the area code, but I wonder about the number 1. I never dial 1
before the number when using the cell phone. And now that my home phone is
from a cable company I don't need to dial the number 1 either.
What is the reason for the plus sign and the number 1?
- Original Message -
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook


Your quite correct my friend it is coming.  Ever sense I've had a cell phone
I'v always used the country and area code along with the 7 digit phone
number.  That way I could use my phone where ever I go with in the country,.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On May 16, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country
Code then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone
number separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone number
I put as
follows:

+1 (212) 555-1234

Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine,
here in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I
believe in the States that is coming as well.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: Question about adding contacts using outlook

Hello,

I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone.
My
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Should I include the dash in the phone number?
Thanks,
Rena

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Re: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON AMAZON!!!

2014-05-16 Thread Anthony Vece

What I'm really asking is their a difference in the quality of the merchandise?


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

 On May 16, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There is a difference between retail packaging, non-retail packaging which
 Amazon also calls frustration free packaging and bulk packaging. Below is
 a link from Amazon.ca regarding the use of frustration free packaging. I
 think the term frustration free is a good one because I often bought
 something and was quite frustrated by the way it was packaged especially
 when it almost takes a pound of dynamite or the use of a machete to get into
 it.
 
 http://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8nodeId=200939420
 
 Next is a link to search results for the Plantronics Voyager Legend headset
 on Amazon, if you check out the results you will find that it is available
 in 3 package choices:
 
 Frustration free packaging for $99.99 on sale for $69.99
 Bulk packaging for $59.99
 Retail packaging for $99.99 on sale for $69.99
 
 Often the price of an item for retail packaging and frustration free
 packaging is the same and it's the bulk packaging items one has to be
 careful about as they are often not quite the same. Here is the link for
 those who want to check it out:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=srs%3D8886508011%26search-alias%3
 Dspecialty-apsfield-keywords=plantronics+voyager+legendrh=i%3Aspecialty-ap
 s%2Ck%3Aplantronics+voyager+legend
 
 Below are some of the Amazon reviews from the bulk packaging item:
 
 BULK, incomplete item without extra rubbers and AC adapter
 By  Carlitos   on December 8, 2013
 BULK, incomplete item without extra rubbers and AC adapter, it should be
 specified in the description.
 
 Good, but be aware of the Bulk packaging
 By Tom Vollick   on February 1, 2014
 This is my second Voyager Legend - I lost the first one. The unit itself is
 pretty good, the support crew is superior to most. Be advised if you get the
 Bulk Packaging one you get the head set and the charger, THAT'S IT ! My
 first one was the Retail version, although the headsets are than same,
 with the retail you get instructions, different size earbuds and ear
 cushions. You get none of that with the bulk. Also you must go to their
 website to get any instruction on how to activate it. I had to call them to
 get the proper ear buds and cushions.
 
 Be cautious when you buy a new bulk package from 100% positive feedback
 online store!
 By  Shuzhi Teng   on December 10, 2013
 The new bulk package Plantronic Voyager Legend BT Headset I received is
 apparently NOT new, it looks not months old, but years old! I tried to wipe
 out the scratch marks all over the outside of the rubber area with my
 finger tip, no use. I'd upload the picture of it if I know how. I've been
 shopping with Amazon for many years but this is my first time to receive a
 used new item from a seller, one having 100% positive feedback! What a
 shame!
 
 Great headset, bulk packaging is sad. Returned it
 By  chandan gv   on February 13, 2014
 The headset is great but bulk packaging is sad. I actually received a used
 headset with a lot of scratches on it. Thanks to Amazon Prime, I returned it
 hassle free.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Petty, Richard
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:47 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON
 AMAZON!!!
 
 In many cases, Amazon offers non-retail packaging. Often customer reviews of
 these products seem to point to problems with the items.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of RobH.
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON
 AMAZON!!!
 
 Suggests to me the difference with software between OEM and retail which is
 to say - OEM is volume sale in minimal presentation packaging and priced for
 volume sale.
 retails is presented more expensively and priced for individual sale.
 
 A trader that picked up the end of a non-retail batch should be able to
 offer at the volume price, though suspect it is breaking some trading clause
 to do so.
 
 RobH.
 - Original Message -
 From: Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com
 To: blind viphone Mailing List viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:27 PM
 Subject: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON
 AMAZON!!!
 
 
 Hi Everyone;
 
 The subject line says it all.
 I see this. all the time on Amazon.
 
 Any ideas?
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Anthony
 
 
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A Question About on-screen Braille Keyboard Input Options

2014-05-16 Thread M. Taylor

Hello All,

Instead of using the standard on-screen iOS keyboard, I would like to try
out an on-screen Braile keyboard input app.  

What I would like to know is if there is an input app that allows one to
treat the entire portrait display as one Braille cell.  That is, The upper
left corner of the screen represents dot 1, the upper right corner of the
screen represents dot 4, the middle left side of the screen represents dot
2, the middle right side of the screen represents dot 5, the lower left
corner of the screen represents dot 3, and the lower right corner of the
screen represents dot 6.  

In this way, the user can simply use one finger to tap/select each dot of
the cell to be entered and when the correct configuration of cells is
selected, the user enters the character via a swipe or something.  

Those of you who used the original HUmanWare Trekker Maestro PDA will recall
this was the way we entered text.  It was remarkably efficient and accurate.


Now that I think about it, there may/could/should be a way of entering dots
7 and 8, as well.

Does such an app for iOS exist?

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: A Question About on-screen Braille Keyboard Input Options

2014-05-16 Thread Jennie Facer

The only app that comes to mind is the Type in Braille app. You will have to
go look at the description and see if it will do what you are wanting. Other
than that, I have no clue.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!


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Subject: A Question About on-screen Braille Keyboard Input Options

Hello All,

Instead of using the standard on-screen iOS keyboard, I would like to try
out an on-screen Braile keyboard input app.  

What I would like to know is if there is an input app that allows one to
treat the entire portrait display as one Braille cell.  That is, The upper
left corner of the screen represents dot 1, the upper right corner of the
screen represents dot 4, the middle left side of the screen represents dot
2, the middle right side of the screen represents dot 5, the lower left
corner of the screen represents dot 3, and the lower right corner of the
screen represents dot 6.  

In this way, the user can simply use one finger to tap/select each dot of
the cell to be entered and when the correct configuration of cells is
selected, the user enters the character via a swipe or something.  

Those of you who used the original HUmanWare Trekker Maestro PDA will recall
this was the way we entered text.  It was remarkably efficient and accurate.


Now that I think about it, there may/could/should be a way of entering dots
7 and 8, as well.

Does such an app for iOS exist?

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: OT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETAIL AND NON RETAIL PACKAGING ON AMAZON!!!

No!  There is no difference in the quality of the product inside.

HTH


Alan

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 On May 16, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What I'm really asking is their a difference in the quality of the 
 merchandise?
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5s!
 
 On May 16, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There is a difference between retail packaging, non-retail packaging which
 Amazon also calls frustration free packaging and bulk packaging. Below is
 a link from Amazon.ca regarding the use of frustration free packaging. I
 think the term frustration free is a good one because I often bought
 something and was quite frustrated by the way it was packaged especially
 when it almost takes a pound of dynamite or the use of a machete to get into
 it.
 
 http://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8nodeId=200939420
 
 Next is a link to search results for the Plantronics Voyager Legend headset
 on Amazon, if you check out the results you will find that it is available
 in 3 package choices:
 
 Frustration free packaging for $99.99 on sale for $69.99
 Bulk packaging for $59.99
 Retail packaging for $99.99 on sale for $69.99
 
 Often the price of an item for retail packaging and frustration free
 packaging is the same and it's the bulk packaging items one has to be
 careful about as they are often not quite the same. Here is the link for
 those who want to check it out:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=srs%3D8886508011%26search-

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Re: A Question About on-screen Braille Keyboard Input Options

2014-05-16 Thread Jewel

You might also look into perkinput area it doesn't do exactly what you want, 
but it's similar. It's new, and need some work, but so far it's got a great 
concept. I'm sure the work on it to make it better soon.
Jewel

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 On May 16, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The only app that comes to mind is the Type in Braille app. You will have to
 go look at the description and see if it will do what you are wanting. Other
 than that, I have no clue.
 
 Jenn
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:28 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: A Question About on-screen Braille Keyboard Input Options
 
 Hello All,
 
 Instead of using the standard on-screen iOS keyboard, I would like to try
 out an on-screen Braile keyboard input app.  
 
 What I would like to know is if there is an input app that allows one to
 treat the entire portrait display as one Braille cell.  That is, The upper
 left corner of the screen represents dot 1, the upper right corner of the
 screen represents dot 4, the middle left side of the screen represents dot
 2, the middle right side of the screen represents dot 5, the lower left
 corner of the screen represents dot 3, and the lower right corner of the
 screen represents dot 6.  
 
 In this way, the user can simply use one finger to tap/select each dot of
 the cell to be entered and when the correct configuration of cells is
 selected, the user enters the character via a swipe or something.  
 
 Those of you who used the original HUmanWare Trekker Maestro PDA will recall
 this was the way we entered text.  It was remarkably efficient and accurate.
 
 
 Now that I think about it, there may/could/should be a way of entering dots
 7 and 8, as well.
 
 Does such an app for iOS exist?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
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Melt, audio social networking!

2014-05-16 Thread Chris Chaffin

Hello all,

A couple of months ago, an app came out called The Melt.
It is like Facebook / Twitter, but instead of typing your post, you just record 
it!  And it is totally free!
When the app first came out, it was not accessible, but after contacting one of 
the developers, they went back and made the app totally accessible with voice 
over!

It is a very cool app, so check it out!  You can find a demo on Applevis:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/add-something-different-your-social-networking-melt-ios

Here is also a link to it in the app store:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/melt-social-voice-recordings/id655838005?mt=8

I just downloaded it myself and just got started.
Feel free to follow me at: Chris_C.

Enjoy,

Chris Chaffin

Email and Facebook: cchaf...@twcny.rr.com
Twitter: Chris_Chaffin68 (first letter of each name is caps)
Cell: (518) 536-2742

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Re: A Question About on-screen Braille Keyboard Input Options

If you are not dead set on one-dot-at-a-time entry, give MBraille a shot. It is 
free, with an in-app purchase to fully unlock it. You enter braille one 
character at a time, holding the phone sideways. There is plenty about it on 
www.applevis.com. Aside from that, TypeInBraille is the only one I can think 
of: it lets you type one row at a time, not one dot, but it is close to what 
you are looking for.
On May 16, 2014, at 5:28 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 Instead of using the standard on-screen iOS keyboard, I would like to try
 out an on-screen Braile keyboard input app.  
 
 What I would like to know is if there is an input app that allows one to
 treat the entire portrait display as one Braille cell.  That is, The upper
 left corner of the screen represents dot 1, the upper right corner of the
 screen represents dot 4, the middle left side of the screen represents dot
 2, the middle right side of the screen represents dot 5, the lower left
 corner of the screen represents dot 3, and the lower right corner of the
 screen represents dot 6.  
 
 In this way, the user can simply use one finger to tap/select each dot of
 the cell to be entered and when the correct configuration of cells is
 selected, the user enters the character via a swipe or something.  
 
 Those of you who used the original HUmanWare Trekker Maestro PDA will recall
 this was the way we entered text.  It was remarkably efficient and accurate.
 
 
 Now that I think about it, there may/could/should be a way of entering dots
 7 and 8, as well.
 
 Does such an app for iOS exist?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
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Drop Box and Music

2014-05-16 Thread Steve Shannon Cook

Hi All,

I have some music in my Drop Box folder on my iPhone 5C.  How do I move this
music to another app so I am not using up space in my DB folder?  Thanks in
advance!

Steve

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How do I delete an unwanted album from Music app on iPhone and from iTunes on my PC?

2014-05-16 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Thanks in advance.

I got a little too frisky in my CD ripping activity.

Keith

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RE: Drop Box and Music

2014-05-16 Thread Thom Spittle

Hi Steve,
I think the only way is to put in on your computer and add it to your phone
using itunes.




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Hi All,

I have some music in my Drop Box folder on my iPhone 5C.  How do I move this
music to another app so I am not using up space in my DB folder?  Thanks in
advance!

Steve

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getting Siri to schedule a calendar event

2014-05-16 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan

Hi, all.  I am having difficulty getting Siri to schedule a calendar event.
I say schedule an appointment for, then the date, subject and time.  But
Siri never seems to put the correct title of the appointment.  It gets the
time and date right, so I must be saying something wrong.  Any help would be
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula and Babe

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Re: getting Siri to schedule a calendar event

I always say to Siri, remind me that I have a board of directors meeting on 
July seventh at 8 PM, on June fifteenth.  Siri comes back and says ok, I'll 
remind that and repeates the above information.  My default reminder is 9 AM 
the morning before the date.

Alan

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 I say “schedule an appointment for, then the date, subject and time.  But 
 Siri never seems to put the correct title of the appointment.  It gets the 
 time and date right, so I must be saying something wrong.  Any help would be 
 appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
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blindsquare info

2014-05-16 Thread Ioana Gandrabur

Hi all,

For those of you using blind square I was wondering how important it is to be a 
foursquare member. I am not realy interested in joining an other social 
network. But if any of you would like to share how foursquare might be useful 
I'd be greatful. 
Thanks for any info.


Best,

Ioana




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Re: blindsquare info

2014-05-16 Thread Julia


Hi.
The only reason I'd consider joining it is it gives you the ability 
to ad places that aren't in the foursquare network. I've already found 
two such places.

Julia On 16/05/2014 9:11 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Hi all,

For those of you using blind square I was wondering how important it is to be a 
foursquare member. I am not realy interested in joining an other social 
network. But if any of you would like to share how foursquare might be useful 
I'd be greatful.
Thanks for any info.


Best,

Ioana




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Correction to iWord Dictionary Web Address

2014-05-16 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Everyone,

In my previous post regarding VoiceOver accessible free collegiate
dictionaries, I provided the wrong URL.

The correct URL for the Merriam-Webster's iWord dictionary is

http://i.word.com

Sorry for any confusion.

Mark


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Apps

Hello and thank you all for your recommendations.  They were very helpful.

After experimenting with several free websites and free iOS apps, as I was
not willing to buy the Merriam Webster Collegiate Dictionary for 24.99 USD,
the most consistent and easiest to use cross-platform collegiate dictionary
that displays each syllable of a word, (accessible via VoiceOver) is a free
site called iWord.com  located at www.iword.com which, as it turns out, is
developed by Merriam-Webster.

Thanks Again,

Mark

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Apps

I don't know if this would work for you, but I use the dictionary app by
Farlex Inc.

Jenn

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 On May 15, 2014, at 2:24 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I am currently enrolled in the NFB's Braille Transcription/Proof 
 reading course.
 
 As such, I am in need of a good either free or paid iOS-ready, 
 VoiceOver accessible dictionary app, preferably collegiate, that will 
 diagram the syllables of words.
 
 Now I only have one Braille display and that is being used to enter 
 the Braille transcription code so I need a dictionary app that will 
 allow me to read, character-by-character via the VoiceOver Rotor, in 
 order to determine how the words are syllabically separated.
 
 Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated.  
 
 Mark
 
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RE: blindsquare info

You don't really need to be a member unless you want to use the social
networking features.
BlindSquare uses their data whether you are a member or not.
You may find a few things I suppose through someone else on Four Square, but
I've not joined and see no lack of information.

Richard


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Hi all,

For those of you using blind square I was wondering how important it is to
be a foursquare member. I am not realy interested in joining an other social
network. But if any of you would like to share how foursquare might be
useful I'd be greatful. 
Thanks for any info.


Best,

Ioana




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Re: blindsquare info

2014-05-16 Thread Ioana Gandrabur

How is the data in blind square compaired to let's say yellow pages? 
Could it substitute an app like around-me? 
Thanks for your answers.
Best,

Ioana




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 You don't really need to be a member unless you want to use the social
 networking features.
 BlindSquare uses their data whether you are a member or not.
 You may find a few things I suppose through someone else on Four Square, but
 I've not joined and see no lack of information.
 
 Richard
 
 
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 Hi all,
 
 For those of you using blind square I was wondering how important it is to
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Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

2014-05-16 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi,

It's all a matter of how much you travel. If you're mostly in your local area, 
you can skip the area code. If you're mostly in your home country, you can skip 
the country code.

Best,
Anna



On May 16, 2014, at 2:46 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net 
gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:

 I agree about the area code, but I wonder about the number 1. I never dial 1 
 before the number when using the cell phone. And now that my home phone is 
 from a cable company I don't need to dial the number 1 either.
 What is the reason for the plus sign and the number 1?
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 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
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 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook
 
 
 Your quite correct my friend it is coming.  Ever sense I've had a cell phone 
 I'v always used the country and area code along with the 7 digit phone 
 number.  That way I could use my phone where ever I go with in the country,.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On May 16, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country Code
 then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone number
 separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone number I put as
 follows:
 
 +1 (212) 555-1234
 
 Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine, here
 in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I believe in the
 States that is coming as well.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 Hello,
 
 I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone. My
 question is
 Should I include the dash in the phone number?
 Thanks,
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RE: Drop Box and Music

2014-05-16 Thread Steve Shannon Cook

Thanks Thom, that's what I thought, but I thought I would ask for laughs.

Steve and Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend.  
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003 

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Hi Steve,
I think the only way is to put in on your computer and add it to your phone
using itunes.




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Hi All,

I have some music in my Drop Box folder on my iPhone 5C.  How do I move this
music to another app so I am not using up space in my DB folder?  Thanks in
advance!

Steve

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RE: Drop Box and Music

Tom is correct, apps on the iPhone are very limited as to how they can
access data and it is not possible to put music onto your iPhone via Dropbox
yet have it outside the Dropbox folder structure.

I would recommend that you add the music to your iTunes music library and
you can of course move it out of Dropbox and copy it into the Music folder
which is a subfolder of iTunes Media. Once you have done that and added it
to your iTunes Music library you can connect your iPhone to the computer,
find it under devices and after checking the Music radio button you can
select how you want to sync your music. Primarily you choose between syncing
your entire music library or, if that is too much to fit on your phone,
select to sync selected playlists, artists, albums and genres.
I prefer to sync by artist so I then tab until I get to the artist list view
where I can then arrow through an alphabetical list of all the artists I
have and check the ones I want to sync by pressing the space bar. When I am
done I tab to the Sync button and the music is copied to my phone.

If this is all new to you I recommend that you listen to Jonathan Mosen's
2-series on using iTunes 11 with Jaws 14 which are the FS Casts for December
2012 and January 2013 at www.FreedomScientific.com/FSCast.
If you are a Mac user this of course may not be the best podcast to listen
to.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Hi All,

I have some music in my Drop Box folder on my iPhone 5C.  How do I move this
music to another app so I am not using up space in my DB folder?  Thanks in
advance!

Steve

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Re: getting Siri to schedule a calendar event

2014-05-16 Thread Ioana Gandrabur

I'd just say something like:
Make appointment titled such and such for date and time. Have not found a way 
to change default alarm for the appointment. 
Hth,

Ioana




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 wrote:
 
 I always say to Siri, remind me that I have a board of directors meeting on 
 July seventh at 8 PM, on June fifteenth.  Siri comes back and says ok, I'll 
 remind that and repeates the above information.  My default reminder is 9 AM 
 the morning before the date.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On May 16, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, all.  I am having difficulty getting Siri to schedule a calendar event.  
 I say “schedule an appointment for, then the date, subject and time.  But 
 Siri never seems to put the correct title of the appointment.  It gets the 
 time and date right, so I must be saying something wrong.  Any help would be 
 appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
 God bless!
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RE: How do I delete an unwanted album from Music app on iPhone and from iTunes on my PC?

Hi Keith,

 

Unfortunately you can only delete individual songs on the iPhone, it is one
feature where I really don't understand why Apple got rid of it. Anyhow, you
can delete songs just like emails in your Inbox, swipe down or up to put the
action rotor on Delete and then double tap. If it's just one album you can
just delete the 10 or 12 songs.

In iTunes you could select the album in your column browser, then tab into
the list of songs, highlight them all by holding shift and arrow through the
list, then press Delete.

 

 

Regards,

SieghardI really don't u

 

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iTunes on my PC?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

I got a little too frisky in my CD ripping activity.

 

Keith

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Re: Drop Box and Music

2014-05-16 Thread Joseph FreeTech

Hi All,

I kinda hate using iTunes so I take a zipped archive of music I have placed 
on Dropbox, and I then launch Voice Dream Reader and use the Add button to 
import my music from Dropbox.

I then go back into my Dropbox folder and Delete the music folder since it 
is already on my device within VDR.

Voice Dream Reader is very good for listening to music and excellent for 
listening to audio books as the track sequence is maintained and books 
easily move from track to track.

Give it a shot. Smile.

Joseph

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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: Drop Box and Music


Tom is correct, apps on the iPhone are very limited as to how they can
access data and it is not possible to put music onto your iPhone via Dropbox
yet have it outside the Dropbox folder structure.

I would recommend that you add the music to your iTunes music library and
you can of course move it out of Dropbox and copy it into the Music folder
which is a subfolder of iTunes Media. Once you have done that and added it
to your iTunes Music library you can connect your iPhone to the computer,
find it under devices and after checking the Music radio button you can
select how you want to sync your music. Primarily you choose between syncing
your entire music library or, if that is too much to fit on your phone,
select to sync selected playlists, artists, albums and genres.
I prefer to sync by artist so I then tab until I get to the artist list view
where I can then arrow through an alphabetical list of all the artists I
have and check the ones I want to sync by pressing the space bar. When I am
done I tab to the Sync button and the music is copied to my phone.

If this is all new to you I recommend that you listen to Jonathan Mosen's
2-series on using iTunes 11 with Jaws 14 which are the FS Casts for December
2012 and January 2013 at www.FreedomScientific.com/FSCast.
If you are a Mac user this of course may not be the best podcast to listen
to.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Steve  Shannon Cook
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Drop Box and Music

Hi All,

I have some music in my Drop Box folder on my iPhone 5C.  How do I move this
music to another app so I am not using up space in my DB folder?  Thanks in
advance!

Steve

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Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

2014-05-16 Thread Victor Gouveia


Hi Woody,

I would be careful about saying this, as there are some cities where just 
dialling the phone number won't work, and you need to have the area code 
dialled before the seven digit telephone number, at least, that's how it is 
here in Toronto.


In fact, if you simply dial just the seven digit phone number, you get a 
recorded message telling you to please dial the area code before the number 
you are dialling.


Guess we've run out of numbers.  LOL.



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Original Message- 
From: Woody Anna Dresner

Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

Hi,

It's all a matter of how much you travel. If you're mostly in your local 
area, you can skip the area code. If you're mostly in your home country, you 
can skip the country code.


Best,
Anna



On May 16, 2014, at 2:46 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net 
gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:


I agree about the area code, but I wonder about the number 1. I never dial 
1 before the number when using the cell phone. And now that my home phone 
is from a cable company I don't need to dial the number 1 either.

What is the reason for the plus sign and the number 1?
- Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook


Your quite correct my friend it is coming.  Ever sense I've had a cell 
phone I'v always used the country and area code along with the 7 digit 
phone number.  That way I could use my phone where ever I go with in the 
country,.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On May 16, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country Code
then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone number
separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone number I put as
follows:

+1 (212) 555-1234

Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine, 
here
in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I believe in 
the

States that is coming as well.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Of gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about adding contacts using outlook

Hello,

I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone. 
My

question is
Should I include the dash in the phone number?
Thanks,
Rena

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RE: Question about adding contacts using outlook

10-digit dialing is the standard everywhere in Canada even in the smallest
little town.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

Hi Woody,

I would be careful about saying this, as there are some cities where just
dialling the phone number won't work, and you need to have the area code
dialled before the seven digit telephone number, at least, that's how it is
here in Toronto.

In fact, if you simply dial just the seven digit phone number, you get a
recorded message telling you to please dial the area code before the number
you are dialling.

Guess we've run out of numbers.  LOL.

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Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities Original Message-
From: Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

Hi,

It's all a matter of how much you travel. If you're mostly in your local
area, you can skip the area code. If you're mostly in your home country, you
can skip the country code.

Best,
Anna

On May 16, 2014, at 2:46 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net
gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:

 I agree about the area code, but I wonder about the number 1. I never 
 dial
 1 before the number when using the cell phone. And now that my home 
 phone is from a cable company I don't need to dial the number 1 either.
 What is the reason for the plus sign and the number 1?
 - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Question about adding contacts using outlook

 Your quite correct my friend it is coming.  Ever sense I've had a cell 
 phone I'v always used the country and area code along with the 7 digit 
 phone number.  That way I could use my phone where ever I go with in 
 the country,.

 Alan

 Sent from my iPad Air

 On May 16, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 I follow the international format for phone numbers, e.g. + Country 
 Code then the area code in parenthesis followed by the 7 digit phone 
 number separated by a dash. For example, a North American phone 
 number I put as
 follows:

 +1 (212) 555-1234

 Even if the number is local to you the iPhone will dial it just fine, 
 here in Canada we have had 10-digit local dialing for years and I 
 believe in the States that is coming as well.

 Regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Question about adding contacts using outlook

 Hello,

 I'm creating contacts in Outlook with the idea to add them to my iPhone. 
 My
 question is
 Should I include the dash in the phone number?
 Thanks,
 Rena

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