Re: Voiceover stuttering when leaving phone app

[Scott Berry]

Yes I have seen this issue.  I am glad you nailed it down for me.  Cn you 
please allow me to use your report.  If so, can you send me more info and I’ll 
send feedback to Apple since I am on the beta team.  I have been trying to 
track that nasty bug down for a while and couldn’t quite figure out what was 
happening cause it would do it anywhere for me but I couldn’t find the starting 
culprit.


> On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Conrad Bennett  wrote:
> 
> Does anybody else have this problem after I make a phone call voiceover will 
> start to stutter until I turn it back off and on it only does it in the Phone 
> app. The only voice that it does not do it with is Alex I'm using an iPhone 
> 6s 64 GB if anybody can help it would be appreciated thanks it does not do it 
> all the time it does it at random.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Searching in the App Store broken?

[Rajmund]

Hi, I've actually seen this bug as of IOS9, but haven't seen it with the beta 
yet. So I think its either an old bug, or an app store quirk. Closing it from 
the app switcher, and opening it again fixes it, though. Or at least it did for 
me. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 12, 2016 1:21 am
Subject: Re: Searching in the App Store broken?

>
>
> OK, so if this is a beta problem, I obviously shouldn't have reported it 
> here. But I thought the App Store has updated separately from the beta 
> process. So I thought maybe it was an App Store problem, just like when the 
> Apple Store updates separately as an app. Strange.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mary, 
> > 
> > Running the beta I'm also experiencing the same problem. 
> > 
> > Have reported this through the feedback app. 
> > 
> > Best, 
> > 
> > Sadam Ahmed 
> > 
> >> On 12/09/2016 9:36 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> >> Mary,
> >> I just tried the same search on my iPod 6 running the iOS 10 beta.
> >> It said,  results.
> >> As I flicked right, the 12th flick brought me to Microsoft Outlook, email 
> >> and calendar etc.
> >> This was after one that said Advertisement, which was about Microsoft 
> >> Outlook. So, apparently we will be getting ads in the app store searches. 
> >> But, it worked for me.
> >> Richard
> >> 
> >> 
> >> "By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> >> - Satsuki Shibuya
> >> 
> >> 
> >> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> >> 
> >> On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I have not had occasion to do a search in the App Store recently. But 
> >>> just now, I decided I wanted to search for Microsoft outlook. So I typed 
> >>> Microsoft outlook into the search field. And I started in a little 
> >>> circular dance where I would see something on the main screen that said 
> >>> "search results". There were no results below that. Double tapping on 
> >>> search results resulted in no change. Up in the search box it said 137 
> >>> results along with my search term. Double tapping on that closed 
> >>> everything out and still gave me no results. And around it 
> >>> went. I tried searching for just outlook. Then there were things that 
> >>> were related, each of which had a button next to it, like related 
> >>> searches would be. But never did I ever see one listing for a app. I 
> >>> don't get it. Is the store broken? There isn't a beta of the App Store, 
> >>> so far as I am aware. So even though I have the beta of iOS 10 here, I 
> >>> would think the store performance would be the same, wouldn't it?
> >>> In other words, I hope I'm not reporting something here or asking about 
> >>> something that the moderators would not find amusing.
> >>> Mary
> >>> 
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Re: Question concerning Ipad, and Youtube

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi, the close button is at the very top. The search button, is that the very 
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> On Sep 12, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello once more,
> 
> 
> I have Youtube on my Ipad, along with my other apps for intertainment. 
> Such as, Spotify.
> 
> 
> I am still learning how my Ipad works. I want to watch something on 
> Youtube. But when I go in to the search box, and type what I want to 
> find, I can't figure out how to make it search. I seem to find the close 
> button a lot!
> 
> I've tried more than once. But I am just not having any luck.
> 
> 
> Could someone please give me some pointers?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Question concerning Ipad, and Youtube

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello once more,


I have Youtube on my Ipad, along with my other apps for intertainment. 
Such as, Spotify.


I am still learning how my Ipad works. I want to watch something on 
Youtube. But when I go in to the search box, and type what I want to 
find, I can't figure out how to make it search. I seem to find the close 
button a lot!

I've tried more than once. But I am just not having any luck.


Could someone please give me some pointers?


Thank you,


Terri

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Problem with Apple tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have an older Apple tv. I would like to upgrade. But right now, the 
money just isn't there.

I was told by a friend, that the 3rd generation will not be able to 
receive the latest update coming out.

Is this correct?


Here is my issue. I watch Netflix a lot with my Apple tv. But I also 
watch some other things as well.

Tonight, I wanted to watch something on Youtube.

However, it is no longer there. Actually, there is a lot of stuff that 
is gone. I think there used to be close to 60, or 70 options there. Now, 
there are only 34 options.


How did this happen?

How do they go about removing content?

And why did they do this?


Any help would be rather appreciated. I'm not pleased with this, at all!


Thank you,


Terri

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Problem with Apple tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have an older Apple tv. I would like to upgrade. But right now, the 
money just isn't there.

I was told by a friend, that the 3rd generation will not be able to 
receive the latest update coming out.

Is this correct?


Here is my issue. I watch Netflix a lot with my Apple tv. But I also 
watch some other things as well.

Tonight, I wanted to watch something on Youtube.

However, it is no longer there. Actually, there is a lot of stuff that 
is gone. I think there used to be close to 60, or 70 options there. Now, 
there are only 34 options.


How did this happen?

How do they go about removing content?

And why did they do this?


Any help would be rather appreciated. I'm not pleased with this, at all!


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: ot need outlook help with windows 10

[Feliciano Godoy]

Access view setting followed by other setting. There you can uncheck the group 
by option.

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On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:47 AM, Rebecca Ilniski 
> wrote:

Hi all.  Sorry to post this here but am using the current version of Outlook
and am wondering how to turn this group by option off.  It keeps getting in
the way of my in-box.  Thanks.

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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Indeed. It is great. I prefer to use the volume button as well.

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On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Sue B 
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Yes, that KNFB Reader update does use the Volume Buttons to take a picture. I 
tested this out the other day with someone who had been having trouble keeping 
the device steady while double tapping on the screen.  It worked very nicely.  
He was an older gentleman, with arthritic shaky hands, who is new to using the 
iPhone. He also appreciated the idea of scanning, particularly multiple pages, 
with Fopydo Scanning Stand and a Bluetooth keyboard as an option.

I'd actually been hoping the app developers would think of physically clicking 
instead of double tapping one of these days. Someone was reading my mind I 
guess. Ha Ha.

Sue B.


On 9/11/16 12:03 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:
With the update that just rolled out on KNFBReader you can already use the 
volume buttons to take a picture. Not an iOS 10 thing, I'm on the latest 
version of iOS 9.

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On Sep 11, 2016, at 3:22 AM, Gordan Radić 
> wrote:


Hi!

Somebody already said, iPhone SE is more less iPhone 6S in the 5/5S case. I 
doubt the next version of small iPhone will get out in 2017. but I'm expecting 
it in 2018.

Regarding shooting with KNFB, in iOS 10 update you'll be able to shoot photos 
with volume buttons as in the stock app.


S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić


  
 

10.9.2016. u 2:12, Dianne Phelps je napisao/la:
I still question why the size keeps enlarging? When I upgraded the last time, I 
looked at the 6 and 6+, which, I felt was like carrying a tablet around. That 
may well be important for sighted consumers, but I am tired of trying of 
carrying these huge things around. I need something which fits in a pocket 
without falling out or in a small purse. I need decent sound and some ability 
to connect with my hearing aids. This all means I am still interested in the 
SE. Having a nice camera on board would be nice for when I want to hand my 
phone to someone to take a picture, though since my sister and sister-in-law 
are the shutter bug historians for our family, it is not totally necessary for 
me.

With the sizes as they now are, I may as well pack my Surface around.

I like a great deal of what Apple has done with this product and for their 
attention to our needs with Voiceover and commend them for these products. I 
need Siri to become more accurate, though, it has improved immensely from its 
beginning and anticipate continued improvement. The camera concerns me only in 
as much as I depend upon KNFB reader, and the best quality of camera we can 
have may be important to its performance. I figure the SE may be better than 
the camera on the 6.

Lastly, I think the reason the size of the 6 also bothers me is, because I have 
small hands, and I find the larger size harder to hold at times, especially 
when using the KNFB Reader. I find it difficult to both hold the iPhone and 
double tap to take the picture.

Ok, I am off my cantankerous  soap box now. Just my thoughts since for me 
earphone jack or not isn’t the largest issue.

Relax and enjoy the weekend. As my great grandmother used to say, it will all 
come out in the “worsh”. She was Irish and wash came out sounding like worsh.

Smiling,

Dianne and Hibiscus
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Re: backing up the phone

[Marie Lyons]

I couldn’t get Siri either. I’ve done what you suggest in the past to get it 
back but when Siri is also quiet it doesn’t work.

Marie Lyons 
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 6:32 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
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> Marie,
> 
> I have have had this problem from time to time with the 6S. I have found that 
> Siri gets me out of the problem. I askSiri  for voice-over to be put on, 
> assuming that it is turned off, and Siri sometimes says that it is already 
> on. I therefore say turn voice-over off. After doing this I can then ask for 
> voice-over to be put back on once again and it then works!I think it is 
> another of those voice-over bugs and I must report it. I am really waiting to 
> see whether it happens to me with iOS 10.
> 
> I hope this helps!
> 
> Carol P
> 
> On 9 Sep 2016, at 19:20, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> This is a cautionary tale with a happy ending. On Thursday night I couldn’t 
> get Siri and voiceover to work. The last time that happened I plugged it into 
> my computer and voila. I tried it again but couldn’t do anything with the 
> phone. Well I thought that since I couldn’t do anything else I may as well 
> back up the phone. I called disability support. We had to do a restore to the 
> phone. Well I restored to the backup I made the night before and was all up 
> to date. The moral of the story is backup your phone.
> 
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Re: Searching in the App Store broken?

[Mary Otten]

 OK, so if this is a beta problem, I obviously shouldn't have reported it here. 
But I thought the App Store has updated separately from the beta process. So I 
thought maybe it was an App Store problem, just like when the Apple Store 
updates separately as an app. Strange.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary, 
> 
> Running the beta I'm also experiencing the same problem. 
> 
> Have reported this through the feedback app. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
>> On 12/09/2016 9:36 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Mary,
>> I just tried the same search on my iPod 6 running the iOS 10 beta.
>> It said,  results.
>> As I flicked right, the 12th flick brought me to Microsoft Outlook, email 
>> and calendar etc.
>> This was after one that said Advertisement, which was about Microsoft 
>> Outlook. So, apparently we will be getting ads in the app store searches. 
>> But, it worked for me.
>> Richard
>> 
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>> - Satsuki Shibuya
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>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
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>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have not had occasion to do a search in the App Store recently. But just 
>>> now, I decided I wanted to search for Microsoft outlook. So I typed 
>>> Microsoft outlook into the search field. And I started in a little circular 
>>> dance where I would see something on the main screen that said "search 
>>> results". There were no results below that. Double tapping on search 
>>> results resulted in no change. Up in the search box it said 137 results 
>>> along with my search term. Double tapping on that closed everything out and 
>>> still gave me no results. And around it went. I tried searching 
>>> for just outlook. Then there were things that were related, each of which 
>>> had a button next to it, like related searches would be. But never did I 
>>> ever see one listing for a app. I don't get it. Is the store broken? There 
>>> isn't a beta of the App Store, so far as I am aware. So even though I have 
>>> the beta of iOS 10 here, I would think the store performance would be the 
>>> same, wouldn't it?
>>> In other words, I hope I'm not reporting something here or asking about 
>>> something that the moderators would not find amusing.
>>> Mary
>>> 
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Re: Searching in the App Store broken?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Mary,

Running the beta I'm also experiencing the same problem.

Have reported this through the feedback app.

Best,

Sadam Ahmed

On 12/09/2016 9:36 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Mary,
I just tried the same search on my iPod 6 running the iOS 10 beta.
It said,  results.
As I flicked right, the 12th flick brought me to Microsoft Outlook, 
email and calendar etc.
This was after one that said Advertisement, which was about Microsoft 
Outlook. So, apparently we will be getting ads in the app store 
searches. But, it worked for me.

Richard


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(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten > wrote:


I have not had occasion to do a search in the App Store recently. But 
just now, I decided I wanted to search for Microsoft outlook. So I 
typed Microsoft outlook into the search field. And I started in a 
little circular dance where I would see something on the main screen 
that said "search results". There were no results below that. Double 
tapping on search results resulted in no change. Up in the search box 
it said 137 results along with my search term. Double tapping on that 
closed everything out and still gave me no results. And around it 
went. I tried searching for just outlook. Then there were things that 
were related, each of which had a button next to it, like related 
searches would be. But never did I ever see one listing for a app. I 
don't get it. Is the store broken? There isn't a beta of the App 
Store, so far as I am aware. So even though I have the beta of iOS 10 
here, I would think the store performance would be the same, wouldn't it?
In other words, I hope I'm not reporting something here or asking 
about something that the moderators would not find amusing.

Mary

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Re: Searching in the App Store broken?

[Richard Turner]

That is very strange. I typed it in.
Must be those Gremlins at work again.
Richard


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On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Mary Otten 
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Hi richard, I tried it with a Siri search, and that worked. But dictating or 
typing into the search box is not giving me anything I can use. Nothing to 
flick through. Just a note of how many results there are  just up in the search 
box itself, and something that says search results, that's it. Three finger 
flicking to perhaps move up a page, that doesn't do any good either.
Mary


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> wrote:

Mary,
I just tried the same search on my iPod 6 running the iOS 10 beta.
It said,  results.
As I flicked right, the 12th flick brought me to Microsoft Outlook, email and 
calendar etc.
This was after one that said Advertisement, which was about Microsoft Outlook. 
So, apparently we will be getting ads in the app store searches. But, it worked 
for me.
Richard


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

I have not had occasion to do a search in the App Store recently. But just now, 
I decided I wanted to search for Microsoft outlook. So I typed Microsoft 
outlook into the search field. And I started in a little circular dance where I 
would see something on the main screen that said "search results". There were 
no results below that. Double tapping on search results resulted in no change. 
Up in the search box it said 137 results along with my search term. Double 
tapping on that closed everything out and still gave me no results. And around 
it went. I tried searching for just outlook. Then there were things that were 
related, each of which had a button next to it, like related searches would be. 
But never did I ever see one listing for a app. I don't get it. Is the store 
broken? There isn't a beta of the App Store, so far as I am aware. So even 
though I have the beta of iOS 10 here, I would think the store performance 
would be the same, wouldn't it?
In other words, I hope I'm not reporting something here or asking about 
something that the moderators would not find amusing.
Mary

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Re: Searching in the App Store broken?

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard, I tried it with a Siri search, and that worked. But dictating or 
typing into the search box is not giving me anything I can use. Nothing to 
flick through. Just a note of how many results there are  just up in the search 
box itself, and something that says search results, that's it. Three finger 
flicking to perhaps move up a page, that doesn't do any good either.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> I just tried the same search on my iPod 6 running the iOS 10 beta.
> It said,  results.
> As I flicked right, the 12th flick brought me to Microsoft Outlook, email and 
> calendar etc.
> This was after one that said Advertisement, which was about Microsoft 
> Outlook. So, apparently we will be getting ads in the app store searches. 
> But, it worked for me.
> Richard
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> I have not had occasion to do a search in the App Store recently. But just 
>> now, I decided I wanted to search for Microsoft outlook. So I typed 
>> Microsoft outlook into the search field. And I started in a little circular 
>> dance where I would see something on the main screen that said "search 
>> results". There were no results below that. Double tapping on search results 
>> resulted in no change. Up in the search box it said 137 results along with 
>> my search term. Double tapping on that closed everything out and still gave 
>> me no results. And around it went. I tried searching for just outlook. Then 
>> there were things that were related, each of which had a button next to it, 
>> like related searches would be. But never did I ever see one listing for a 
>> app. I don't get it. Is the store broken? There isn't a beta of the App 
>> Store, so far as I am aware. So even though I have the beta of iOS 10 here, 
>> I would think the store performance would be the same, wouldn't it?
>> In other words, I hope I'm not reporting something here or asking about 
>> something that the moderators would not find amusing.
>> Mary
>> 
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RE: Voiceover stuttering when leaving phone app

[Cristóbal]

Yes. At least since  iOS 9.x and maybe 8.x, but can't  be sure. It has gotten 
better though.  Before,  it  used to happen every single time after ending a 
call, but  now it's more like every  so  often.
Annoying, but  at least there's aquick fix to  it by turnning  VO off and on.

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Subject: Voiceover stuttering when leaving phone app

Does anybody else have this problem after I make a phone call voiceover will 
start to stutter until I turn it back off and on it only does it in the Phone 
app. The only voice that it does not do it with is Alex I'm using an iPhone 6s 
64 GB if anybody can help it would be appreciated thanks it does not do it all 
the time it does it at random.

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Re: Searching in the App Store broken?

[Richard Turner]

Mary,
I just tried the same search on my iPod 6 running the iOS 10 beta.
It said,  results.
As I flicked right, the 12th flick brought me to Microsoft Outlook, email and 
calendar etc.
This was after one that said Advertisement, which was about Microsoft Outlook. 
So, apparently we will be getting ads in the app store searches. But, it worked 
for me.
Richard


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- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

I have not had occasion to do a search in the App Store recently. But just now, 
I decided I wanted to search for Microsoft outlook. So I typed Microsoft 
outlook into the search field. And I started in a little circular dance where I 
would see something on the main screen that said "search results". There were 
no results below that. Double tapping on search results resulted in no change. 
Up in the search box it said 137 results along with my search term. Double 
tapping on that closed everything out and still gave me no results. And around 
it went. I tried searching for just outlook. Then there were things that were 
related, each of which had a button next to it, like related searches would be. 
But never did I ever see one listing for a app. I don't get it. Is the store 
broken? There isn't a beta of the App Store, so far as I am aware. So even 
though I have the beta of iOS 10 here, I would think the store performance 
would be the same, wouldn't it?
In other words, I hope I'm not reporting something here or asking about 
something that the moderators would not find amusing.
Mary

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Searching in the App Store broken?

[Mary Otten]

I have not had occasion to do a search in the App Store recently. But just now, 
I decided I wanted to search for Microsoft outlook. So I typed Microsoft 
outlook into the search field. And I started in a little circular dance where I 
would see something on the main screen that said "search results". There were 
no results below that. Double tapping on search results resulted in no change. 
Up in the search box it said 137 results along with my search term. Double 
tapping on that closed everything out and still gave me no results. And around 
it went. I tried searching for just outlook. Then there were things that were 
related, each of which had a button next to it, like related searches would be. 
But never did I ever see one listing for a app. I don't get it. Is the store 
broken? There isn't a beta of the App Store, so far as I am aware. So even 
though I have the beta of iOS 10 here, I would think the store performance 
would be the same, wouldn't it?
 In other words, I hope I'm not reporting something here or asking about 
something that the moderators would not find amusing.
Mary

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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Sue B]

Yes, that KNFB Reader update does use the Volume Buttons to take a 
picture. I tested this out the other day with someone who had been 
having trouble keeping the device steady while double tapping on the 
screen.  It worked very nicely.  He was an older gentleman, with 
arthritic shaky hands, who is new to using the iPhone. He also 
appreciated the idea of scanning, particularly multiple pages, with 
Fopydo Scanning Stand and a Bluetooth keyboard as an option.


I'd actually been hoping the app developers would think of physically 
clicking instead of double tapping one of these days. Someone was 
reading my mind I guess. Ha Ha.


Sue B.


On 9/11/16 12:03 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:
With the update that just rolled out on KNFBReader you can already use 
the volume buttons to take a picture. Not an iOS 10 thing, I'm on the 
latest version of iOS 9.


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On Sep 11, 2016, at 3:22 AM, Gordan Radić > wrote:



Hi!

Somebody already said, iPhone SE is more less iPhone 6S in the 5/5S 
case. I doubt the next version of small iPhone will get out in 2017. 
but I'm expecting it in 2018.


Regarding shooting with KNFB, in iOS 10 update you'll be able to 
shoot photos with volume buttons as in the stock app.



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10.9.2016. u 2:12, Dianne Phelps je napisao/la:


I still question why the size keeps enlarging? When I upgraded the 
last time, I looked at the 6 and 6+, which, I felt was like carrying 
a tablet around. That may well be important for sighted consumers, 
but I am tired of trying of carrying these huge things around. I 
need something which fits in a pocket without falling out or in a 
small purse. I need decent sound and some ability to connect with my 
hearing aids. This all means I am still interested in the SE. Having 
a nice camera on board would be nice for when I want to hand my 
phone to someone to take a picture, though since my sister and 
sister-in-law are the shutter bug historians for our family, it is 
not totally necessary for me.


With the sizes as they now are, I may as well pack my Surface around.

I like a great deal of what Apple has done with this product and for 
their attention to our needs with Voiceover and commend them for 
these products. I need Siri to become more accurate, though, it has 
improved immensely from its beginning and anticipate continued 
improvement. The camera concerns me only in as much as I depend upon 
KNFB reader, and the best quality of camera we can have may be 
important to its performance. I figure the SE may be better than the 
camera on the 6.


Lastly, I think the reason the size of the 6 also bothers me is, 
because I have small hands, and I find the larger size harder to 
hold at times, especially when using the KNFB Reader. I find it 
difficult to both hold the iPhone and double tap to take the picture.


Ok, I am off my cantankerous  soap box now. Just my thoughts since 
for me earphone jack or not isn’t the largest issue.


Relax and enjoy the weekend. As my great grandmother used to say, it 
will all come out in the “worsh”. She was Irish and wash came out 
sounding like worsh.


Smiling,

Dianne and Hibiscus

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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

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No. The thing that sets the camera on the 7 plus apart, is that there are 2 
lens systems on the back. The second lens is made specifically for telephoto 
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> On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, all I know is the big deal that was made about that  fancy camera thing 
> on the back of the plus.  Now you're not talking about the one on the back 
> and the one on the front are you? That's two cameras, but that's not new. 
> Pretty much every phone has that I guess. This is that fancy new feature with 
> a telephoto lens and the regular lens or whatever it's called. You can tell 
> how much attention I paid to the specifics. Not.
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>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Mary, I did my own google on this topic and everyone is agreeing you are 
>> correct, plus models only.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?
>>  
>> Likely you’re right on this Mary, but this question came up with my sighted 
>> wife and brother-in-law, so we googled for an article on the new dual camera 
>> feature, and found several articles which said all models of 7 will have 
>> this (although I’m sure there are mistakes plenty out there).
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?
>>  
>> Hi Chip,
>> No, both the seventh and plus do not have two cameras. Only the plus has two 
>> cameras. Of course, if you are totally blind, you might not care.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> 
>> All models of the 7 series are going to have improved battery life, so you 
>> are not forced into the largest model; also, all models are to have two 
>> cameras for photo zoom.
>> 
>> I have a 6s+, and think it is too large; I would carry a backup battery 
>> charger and buy the smaller phone if I could, especially with the 7 series 
>> where the battery life of even the standard size is improved.
>> 
>> Hth,
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sadam Ahmed
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.
>> 
>> Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth 
>> it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?
>> 
>> The improved battery life is the only up side I think.
>> 
>> Your thoughts and comments welcome.
>> 
>> Yours  sincerely,
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
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>> 
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Re: question about Overcast podcast app

[Dave]

Cheers Jonathan,

Much appreciated!

Dave.

From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: question about Overcast podcast app

Hi Dave, you can upload audio via their website, overcast.fm, and it becomes 
available to you from within Overcast. So you might use it for audiobooks for 
example.

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  On 12/09/2016, at 2:08 AM, Dave  wrote:


  Hi, I am a new user of this podcast app.

  One question, i would like to ask, of anyone else, who uses this particular 
app.

  I have the premium version, which removes adds, and also allows you to upload.

  The upload button in settings, just says uploads on or off.

  Obviously, i know what upload means, but not sure what it means, in regards 
to this app.

  Hope someone can help?

  Dave.


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Voiceover stuttering when leaving phone app

[Conrad Bennett]

Does anybody else have this problem after I make a phone call voiceover will 
start to stutter until I turn it back off and on it only does it in the Phone 
app. The only voice that it does not do it with is Alex I'm using an iPhone 6s 
64 GB if anybody can help it would be appreciated thanks it does not do it all 
the time it does it at random.

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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Monica Jones]

I have the 6+ and while I like the large screen for typing, I don't find it 
portable. I like a phone that will fit my pocket or purse nicely.



-Original Message- 
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Subject: RE: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

All models of the 7 series are going to have improved battery life, so you 
are not forced into the largest model; also, all models are to have two 
cameras for photo zoom.


I have a 6s+, and think it is too large; I would carry a backup battery 
charger and buy the smaller phone if I could, especially with the 7 series 
where the battery life of even the standard size is improved.


Hth,

Chip


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Subject: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

Hi all,

Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.

Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth
it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?

The improved battery life is the only up side I think.

Your thoughts and comments welcome.

Yours  sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed

Vocational Business education student

Certificate IV in International Trade

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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Mary Otten]

Well, all I know is the big deal that was made about that  fancy camera thing 
on the back of the plus.  Now you're not talking about the one on the back and 
the one on the front are you? That's two cameras, but that's not new. Pretty 
much every phone has that I guess. This is that fancy new feature with a 
telephoto lens and the regular lens or whatever it's called. You can tell how 
much attention I paid to the specifics. Not.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Yes Mary, I did my own google on this topic and everyone is agreeing you are 
> correct, plus models only.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?
>  
> Likely you’re right on this Mary, but this question came up with my sighted 
> wife and brother-in-law, so we googled for an article on the new dual camera 
> feature, and found several articles which said all models of 7 will have this 
> (although I’m sure there are mistakes plenty out there).
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?
>  
> Hi Chip,
> No, both the seventh and plus do not have two cameras. Only the plus has two 
> cameras. Of course, if you are totally blind, you might not care.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> All models of the 7 series are going to have improved battery life, so you 
> are not forced into the largest model; also, all models are to have two 
> cameras for photo zoom.
> 
> I have a 6s+, and think it is too large; I would carry a backup battery 
> charger and buy the smaller phone if I could, especially with the 7 series 
> where the battery life of even the standard size is improved.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.
> 
> Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth 
> it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?
> 
> The improved battery life is the only up side I think.
> 
> Your thoughts and comments welcome.
> 
> Yours  sincerely,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Vocational Business education student
> 
> Certificate IV in International Trade
> 
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file explorer/editor for andere taxi van least txt-files

[William Windels]

Hello,

I am looking for a explorer with build-in editor on the iPhone.
I should be able to import folder structures with txt-files and I should be 
able to edit the txt-files inside the program and store the changes there.

I use usbdisc pro to store and read folder structures with txt-files but it 
seems I can’t edit the txt-files.
iCloud isn’t a option since the folder structures should be available offline.

All hints are very welcome.
Kind regards,
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RE: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Chip Orange]

Yes Mary, I did my own google on this topic and everyone is agreeing you are 
correct, plus models only.

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

 

Likely you’re right on this Mary, but this question came up with my sighted 
wife and brother-in-law, so we googled for an article on the new dual camera 
feature, and found several articles which said all models of 7 will have this 
(although I’m sure there are mistakes plenty out there).

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

 

Hi Chip,
No, both the seventh and plus do not have two cameras. Only the plus has two 
cameras. Of course, if you are totally blind, you might not care.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:

All models of the 7 series are going to have improved battery life, so you are 
not forced into the largest model; also, all models are to have two cameras for 
photo zoom.

I have a 6s+, and think it is too large; I would carry a backup battery charger 
and buy the smaller phone if I could, especially with the 7 series where the 
battery life of even the standard size is improved.

Hth,

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

Hi all,

Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.

Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth 
it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?

The improved battery life is the only up side I think.

Your thoughts and comments welcome.

Yours  sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed

Vocational Business education student

Certificate IV in International Trade

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RE: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Chip Orange]

Likely you’re right on this Mary, but this question came up with my sighted 
wife and brother-in-law, so we googled for an article on the new dual camera 
feature, and found several articles which said all models of 7 will have this 
(although I’m sure there are mistakes plenty out there).

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

 

Hi Chip,
No, both the seventh and plus do not have two cameras. Only the plus has two 
cameras. Of course, if you are totally blind, you might not care.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:

All models of the 7 series are going to have improved battery life, so you are 
not forced into the largest model; also, all models are to have two cameras for 
photo zoom.

I have a 6s+, and think it is too large; I would carry a backup battery charger 
and buy the smaller phone if I could, especially with the 7 series where the 
battery life of even the standard size is improved.

Hth,

Chip


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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

Hi all,

Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.

Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth 
it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?

The improved battery life is the only up side I think.

Your thoughts and comments welcome.

Yours  sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed

Vocational Business education student

Certificate IV in International Trade

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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chip,
No, both the seventh and plus do not have two cameras. Only the plus has two 
cameras. Of course, if you are totally blind, you might not care.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> All models of the 7 series are going to have improved battery life, so you 
> are not forced into the largest model; also, all models are to have two 
> cameras for photo zoom.
> 
> I have a 6s+, and think it is too large; I would carry a backup battery 
> charger and buy the smaller phone if I could, especially with the 7 series 
> where the battery life of even the standard size is improved.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.
> 
> Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth 
> it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?
> 
> The improved battery life is the only up side I think.
> 
> Your thoughts and comments welcome.
> 
> Yours  sincerely,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Vocational Business education student
> 
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RE: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Merv Keck]

Android has a few models that are even larger but are still classified as 
phones not tablets. I think as long as they continue to offer both a smaller 
choice and a larger choice then why not go as big as they want. There are pros 
and cons to both small and large. And different applications for both. As well 
as different people like different sizes.
Back in the days before smart phones, my dad loved his Nokia that was so small 
I hated to even hold it. I was afraid I would lose it. I couldn't understand 
how anyone would want to use something so small. But he loved that phone. 
A few months aoo I saw someone's Samsung that made my 6S+ look tiny by 
comparison. It almost made me wish I liked Talkback or whatever their version 
of speech is called.
So let them go bigger and smaller if Apple wants to go bigger and smaller as 
long as they keep giving us choice. Choice is good.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these 
devices to become?

i don't think the phones will become any larger, than they already are, as it 
will be become impractical for every day use. It will become a tablet and not a 
phone.

Dave.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these 
devices to become?

If you check out the 6S specifications at http://www.apple.com/iphone-6s/specs/ 
and the iPhone 7 specs at http://www.apple.com/iphone-7/specs/ you'll see that 
the the 7/7+ phones are the same size as the 6S/6S+, namely 4.7 inches and 5.5 
inches respectively. The SE has a 4 inch screen as you can see at 
http://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/

I don't think the fact that the home button is now a virtual button and not a 
physical button actually creates any more screen real estate. It still needs to 
be there at the bottom of the screen.

I'm not sure what the subject line means since I haven't been following this 
thread and I don't see the whole thread below, but devices will keep increasing 
in size as long as that's what the customers want.

On 11/09/16 10:06, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
> It’s my understanding that the iphone 7/7plus are the same sizes as 
> the 6s and 6splus
>
>
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> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Bill Gallik
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:52 AM
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> these devices to become?
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>
>
> Did I understand correctly that the iPhone 7 has been made smaller, 
> more like an iPhone 5/5S vs. the iPhone 6/6S?
>
>
>
> And if this indeed be the case (shrinkage of iPhone 7) might not this 
> be the rationale Apple considered in eliminating the 3.5 MM audio jack?
>  This seems to follow as the “Physical Home Button” has likewise been 
> eliminated; this design allowing for a larger viewing screen while 
> allowing for the overall size of the iPhone to be reduced?
>
> Just a thought!
>
> 
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RE: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Chip Orange]

All models of the 7 series are going to have improved battery life, so you are 
not forced into the largest model; also, all models are to have two cameras for 
photo zoom.

I have a 6s+, and think it is too large; I would carry a backup battery charger 
and buy the smaller phone if I could, especially with the 7 series where the 
battery life of even the standard size is improved.

Hth,

Chip


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Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

Hi all,

Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.

Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth 
it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?

The improved battery life is the only up side I think.

Your thoughts and comments welcome.

Yours  sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed

Vocational Business education student

Certificate IV in International Trade

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RE: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

 

I would think so since 9 was updated at no charge

 

Ron & Danvers

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

 

Will TheSale of ... iOS10 WithOut The i ... Include FREE UpDates as iOS10 IS 
UpDated 
JustWonderin'
At 09:02 AM 9/10/2016, you wrote:



Hi all,
 
I have been purchasing Jonathan’s series since IOS 7 and never have I 
regretted my purchases.  They are well written books that help everyone from 
the beginner to the advanced using language that everyone can relate to. I am 
eagerly awating my copy of IOS 10 without the EYE which I pre-ordered almost 1 
month ago. I always read the book cover to cover to get a feeling on the day it 
comes out.  A day or so later, I download the IOS and begin to practice with 
the phone in one hand and Jonathan’s book in the other on my Victor Stream 
and proceed feature by feature.  Of course I forget some things but, the books 
are so well written that I can go back and randomly find what I need.
 
Congratulations Jonathan for a job well done.
 
Ron & Danvers
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   [ 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?
 
Thanks Jenifer, that's really kind of you and I appreciate it.
Yes, Tuesday's the day, at 10 AM Pacific.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
 

On 9/09/2016, at 8:45 PM, Jenifer Barr  > wrote:

 

Thank you Jonathan.

Am I to assume correctly that IOS 10 comes out Tuesday?  No, I didn't

listen to the keynote this past week, I wasn't able to and as the

iPhone 7 is not on my radar I didn't feel the need.  I'm rather bummed

I missed the one in June where IOS 10 was featured, but alas.

This is by far, handsdown, the most well-written series of books

written for the blind for IOS.  If anyone has never purchased any of

the IOS without the I series yet, I would strongly recommend you do

so.  Justsayin.  Cutos to Jonathan for providing this series.

Jen



On 9/8/16, Jonathan Mosen  > wrote:

Hi Jenifer, I didn't post it here, but I did post it to the Mosen Consulting

Twitter feed, @MosenConsulting, and to our own announcements list. The URL

is:

http://www.mosen.org/ios10 < http://www.mosen.org/ios10 
 >

Thanks a lot for your interest.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org



On 9/09/2016, at 1:27 AM, Jenifer Barr  > wrote:

Hi all.

Did I miss an email with the info to preorder ios 10 without the I... If

there will be one?

Thanks.



Jenifer Barr

Jenifer571 on dice world

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Problem I can't get rid of

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I am having a problem concerning my Ipad Mini. I kept receiving game 
challenge requests, which I don't wanted. I never wanted these on my 
Iphone either, and I was able to get that taken care of, a long time ago.


However, I have tried more than once to get these public game challenges 
to go away. But they just keep happening.


I have set it to only send me challenges from friends. I have checked 
the settings more than once. Everything seems fine.


What the heck could be going on?

Can anyone please give me some help, or advice?


I sure hope so, as this is getting incredably anoying.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: question about Overcast podcast app

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Dave, you can upload audio via their website, overcast.fm 
, and it becomes available to you from within Overcast. So 
you might use it for audiobooks for example.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 12/09/2016, at 2:08 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi, I am a new user of this podcast app.
>  
> One question, i would like to ask, of anyone else, who uses this particular 
> app.
>  
> I have the premium version, which removes adds, and also allows you to upload.
>  
> The upload button in settings, just says uploads on or off.
>  
> Obviously, i know what upload means, but not sure what it means, in regards 
> to this app.
>  
> Hope someone can help?
>  
> Dave.
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Flor Lynch]

By 'wireless headphones' In this instance, I actually mean Bluetooth 
headphones. The other type, that you can plug in, there are good sets of 
those that work fine with hearing aids.


-Original Message- 
From: Flor Lynch

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

Apple has this thing about space - courage, space and vision, to quote Tim
Cook. . So, they didn't see why another socket was needed for older
headphones now that they've provided audio through their lightning port
instead. I'm just trying to explain Apple's argument, although personally I
don't agree with it. And you're right about the chicken-and-egg situation.
For example, I'm a hearing aid user. No pair of wireless headphones that I
know of, is yet up to the audio compatibility standards of good wired
headphones. Unlike many hearing aid users, I've found a way to use earbuds
with them and get pretty good results. It doesn't look as if AirPods will
fit that bill, if the description of having to be in the ear is accurate.
Yes, I could use the lightningEarPods; but then again I don't like the idea
of not being able easily to charge the phone as I listening to music etc, on
it.

-Original Message- 

From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

I'm not sure I understand your point, but maybe I wasn't clear. I'm sure
you can get higher audio fidelity with a Lightning connected pair of
headphones. My point is that you don't need to remove the headphone jack
to accomplish this. Why can't I use a pair of Lightning connected
headphones even if my phone still has a headphone jack.

I've been called many things over this issue, such as stupid, dumb,
ridiculous, idiotic, pathetic
and a Luddite. I really don't think I'm a Luddite though. To me, it's a
chicken and egg situation. Do you change your device and let the
ecosystem catch up or do you prepare the ecosystem before changing your
device. If you get higher audio fidelity from Lightning connected head
phones then people would buy them and use them even if their device
still had a headphone jack. Audiophiles will flock to better audio
fidelity. Once these head phones are in the market and catching on then
you can remove the head phone jack. As it stands now, I gain nothing by
the removal of the headphone jack except for inconvenience.

I agree the adapter is meant to help bridge this gap with the ecosystem.
I doubt I'll have any problems buying a phone without a headphone jack
in a few years, but right now, I don't see any benefits.

On 11/09/16 09:51, Flor Lynch wrote:

Apple might dispute that point about audio fidelity, at least judging
from the tone of their presentation on Wednesday, as the lightning port
gives out digital audio rather than analogue audio.

-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when
it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones
still have a headphone jack.

IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being
well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure
what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any
improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones,
you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure,
you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for
now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the
headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.

I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that
have been added and not those that have been removed.

On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, 

Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Dave]

i don't think the phones will become any larger, than they already are, as 
it will be become impractical for every day use. It will become a tablet and 
not a phone.


Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these 
devices to become?


If you check out the 6S specifications at
http://www.apple.com/iphone-6s/specs/ and the iPhone 7 specs at
http://www.apple.com/iphone-7/specs/ you'll see that the the 7/7+ phones
are the same size as the 6S/6S+, namely 4.7 inches and 5.5 inches
respectively. The SE has a 4 inch screen as you can see at
http://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/

I don't think the fact that the home button is now a virtual button and
not a physical button actually creates any more screen real estate. It
still needs to be there at the bottom of the screen.

I'm not sure what the subject line means since I haven't been following
this thread and I don't see the whole thread below, but devices will
keep increasing in size as long as that's what the customers want.

On 11/09/16 10:06, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

It’s my understanding that the iphone 7/7plus are the same sizes as the
6s and 6splus



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these devices to become?



Did I understand correctly that the iPhone 7 has been made smaller, more
like an iPhone 5/5S vs. the iPhone 6/6S?



And if this indeed be the case (shrinkage of iPhone 7) might not this be
the rationale Apple considered in eliminating the 3.5 MM audio jack?
 This seems to follow as the “Physical Home Button” has likewise been
eliminated; this design allowing for a larger viewing screen while
allowing for the overall size of the iPhone to be reduced?

Just a thought!


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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Dave]

any larger, than they already are, it won’t be a phone, it will be a tablet.

Dave.

From: Larry Lumpkin 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: My question is still how large are they going to allow these 
devices to become?

It’s my understanding that the iphone 7/7plus are the same sizes as the 6s and 
6splus

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:52 AM
To: viPhone E-Mail List 
Subject: Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these 
devices to become?

 

Did I understand correctly that the iPhone 7 has been made smaller, more like 
an iPhone 5/5S vs. the iPhone 6/6S?

 

And if this indeed be the case (shrinkage of iPhone 7) might not this be the 
rationale Apple considered in eliminating the 3.5 MM audio jack?  This seems to 
follow as the “Physical Home Button” has likewise been eliminated; this design 
allowing for a larger viewing screen while allowing for the overall size of the 
iPhone to be reduced?

Just a thought!


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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Flor Lynch]

Apple has this thing about space - courage, space and vision, to quote Tim 
Cook. . So, they didn't see why another socket was needed for older 
headphones now that they've provided audio through their lightning port 
instead. I'm just trying to explain Apple's argument, although personally I 
don't agree with it. And you're right about the chicken-and-egg situation. 
For example, I'm a hearing aid user. No pair of wireless headphones that I 
know of, is yet up to the audio compatibility standards of good wired 
headphones. Unlike many hearing aid users, I've found a way to use earbuds 
with them and get pretty good results. It doesn't look as if AirPods will 
fit that bill, if the description of having to be in the ear is accurate. 
Yes, I could use the lightningEarPods; but then again I don't like the idea 
of not being able easily to charge the phone as I listening to music etc, on 
it.


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

I'm not sure I understand your point, but maybe I wasn't clear. I'm sure
you can get higher audio fidelity with a Lightning connected pair of
headphones. My point is that you don't need to remove the headphone jack
to accomplish this. Why can't I use a pair of Lightning connected
headphones even if my phone still has a headphone jack.

I've been called many things over this issue, such as stupid, dumb,
ridiculous, idiotic, pathetic
and a Luddite. I really don't think I'm a Luddite though. To me, it's a
chicken and egg situation. Do you change your device and let the
ecosystem catch up or do you prepare the ecosystem before changing your
device. If you get higher audio fidelity from Lightning connected head
phones then people would buy them and use them even if their device
still had a headphone jack. Audiophiles will flock to better audio
fidelity. Once these head phones are in the market and catching on then
you can remove the head phone jack. As it stands now, I gain nothing by
the removal of the headphone jack except for inconvenience.

I agree the adapter is meant to help bridge this gap with the ecosystem.
I doubt I'll have any problems buying a phone without a headphone jack
in a few years, but right now, I don't see any benefits.

On 11/09/16 09:51, Flor Lynch wrote:

Apple might dispute that point about audio fidelity, at least judging
from the tone of their presentation on Wednesday, as the lightning port
gives out digital audio rather than analogue audio.

-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when
it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones
still have a headphone jack.

IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being
well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure
what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any
improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones,
you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure,
you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for
now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the
headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.

I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that
have been added and not those that have been removed.

On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are
much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be
addressing in my opinion.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but
it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone 

Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Feliciano Godoy]

With the update that just rolled out on KNFBReader you can already use the 
volume buttons to take a picture. Not an iOS 10 thing, I'm on the latest 
version of iOS 9.

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On Sep 11, 2016, at 3:22 AM, Gordan Radi? 
> wrote:


Hi!

Somebody already said, iPhone SE is more less iPhone 6S in the 5/5S case. I 
doubt the next version of small iPhone will get out in 2017. but I'm expecting 
it in 2018.

Regarding shooting with KNFB, in iOS 10 update you'll be able to shoot photos 
with volume buttons as in the stock app.


S po?tovanjem
Gordan Radi?


  
 

10.9.2016. u 2:12, Dianne Phelps je napisao/la:
I still question why the size keeps enlarging? When I upgraded the last time, I 
looked at the 6 and 6+, which, I felt was like carrying a tablet around. That 
may well be important for sighted consumers, but I am tired of trying of 
carrying these huge things around. I need something which fits in a pocket 
without falling out or in a small purse. I need decent sound and some ability 
to connect with my hearing aids. This all means I am still interested in the 
SE. Having a nice camera on board would be nice for when I want to hand my 
phone to someone to take a picture, though since my sister and sister-in-law 
are the shutter bug historians for our family, it is not totally necessary for 
me.

With the sizes as they now are, I may as well pack my Surface around.

I like a great deal of what Apple has done with this product and for their 
attention to our needs with Voiceover and commend them for these products. I 
need Siri to become more accurate, though, it has improved immensely from its 
beginning and anticipate continued improvement. The camera concerns me only in 
as much as I depend upon KNFB reader, and the best quality of camera we can 
have may be important to its performance. I figure the SE may be better than 
the camera on the 6.

Lastly, I think the reason the size of the 6 also bothers me is, because I have 
small hands, and I find the larger size harder to hold at times, especially 
when using the KNFB Reader. I find it difficult to both hold the iPhone and 
double tap to take the picture.

Ok, I am off my cantankerous  soap box now. Just my thoughts since for me 
earphone jack or not isn't the largest issue.

Relax and enjoy the weekend. As my great grandmother used to say, it will all 
come out in the "worsh". She was Irish and wash came out sounding like worsh.

Smiling,

Dianne and Hibiscus
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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Christopher Chaltain]

If you check out the 6S specifications at 
http://www.apple.com/iphone-6s/specs/ and the iPhone 7 specs at 
http://www.apple.com/iphone-7/specs/ you'll see that the the 7/7+ phones 
are the same size as the 6S/6S+, namely 4.7 inches and 5.5 inches 
respectively. The SE has a 4 inch screen as you can see at 
http://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/


I don't think the fact that the home button is now a virtual button and 
not a physical button actually creates any more screen real estate. It 
still needs to be there at the bottom of the screen.


I'm not sure what the subject line means since I haven't been following 
this thread and I don't see the whole thread below, but devices will 
keep increasing in size as long as that's what the customers want.


On 11/09/16 10:06, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

It’s my understanding that the iphone 7/7plus are the same sizes as the
6s and 6splus



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Did I understand correctly that the iPhone 7 has been made smaller, more
like an iPhone 5/5S vs. the iPhone 6/6S?



And if this indeed be the case (shrinkage of iPhone 7) might not this be
the rationale Apple considered in eliminating the 3.5 MM audio jack?
 This seems to follow as the “Physical Home Button” has likewise been
eliminated; this design allowing for a larger viewing screen while
allowing for the overall size of the iPhone to be reduced?

Just a thought!


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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure I understand your point, but maybe I wasn't clear. I'm sure 
you can get higher audio fidelity with a Lightning connected pair of 
headphones. My point is that you don't need to remove the headphone jack 
to accomplish this. Why can't I use a pair of Lightning connected 
headphones even if my phone still has a headphone jack.


I've been called many things over this issue, such as stupid, dumb, 
ridiculous, idiotic, pathetic
and a Luddite. I really don't think I'm a Luddite though. To me, it's a 
chicken and egg situation. Do you change your device and let the 
ecosystem catch up or do you prepare the ecosystem before changing your 
device. If you get higher audio fidelity from Lightning connected head 
phones then people would buy them and use them even if their device 
still had a headphone jack. Audiophiles will flock to better audio 
fidelity. Once these head phones are in the market and catching on then 
you can remove the head phone jack. As it stands now, I gain nothing by 
the removal of the headphone jack except for inconvenience.


I agree the adapter is meant to help bridge this gap with the ecosystem. 
I doubt I'll have any problems buying a phone without a headphone jack 
in a few years, but right now, I don't see any benefits.


On 11/09/16 09:51, Flor Lynch wrote:

Apple might dispute that point about audio fidelity, at least judging
from the tone of their presentation on Wednesday, as the lightning port
gives out digital audio rather than analogue audio.

-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when
it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones
still have a headphone jack.

IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being
well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure
what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any
improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones,
you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure,
you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for
now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the
headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.

I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that
have been added and not those that have been removed.

On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are
much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be
addressing in my opinion.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but
it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let
Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't
put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I
would doubt it.

I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack
is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted
peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the
lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing
their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for
granted on all of their electronics for years.

It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers,
shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you
just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about
blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to
get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made.
I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume
that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best 

RE: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Larry Lumpkin]

It’s my understanding that the iphone 7/7plus are the same sizes as the 6s and 
6splus

 

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Bill Gallik
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:52 AM
To: viPhone E-Mail List 
Subject: Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these 
devices to become?

 

Did I understand correctly that the iPhone 7 has been made smaller, more like 
an iPhone 5/5S vs. the iPhone 6/6S?

 

And if this indeed be the case (shrinkage of iPhone 7) might not this be the 
rationale Apple considered in eliminating the 3.5 MM audio jack?  This seems to 
follow as the “Physical Home Button” has likewise been eliminated; this design 
allowing for a larger viewing screen while allowing for the overall size of the 
iPhone to be reduced?

Just a thought!


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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Flor Lynch]

Apple might dispute that point about audio fidelity, at least judging from 
the tone of their presentation on Wednesday, as the lightning port gives out 
digital audio rather than analogue audio.


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when
it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones
still have a headphone jack.

IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being
well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure
what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any
improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones,
you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure,
you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for
now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the
headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.

I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that
have been added and not those that have been removed.

On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are
much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be
addressing in my opinion.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but
it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let
Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't
put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I
would doubt it.

I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack
is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted
peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the
lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing
their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for
granted on all of their electronics for years.

It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers,
shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you
just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about
blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to
get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made.
I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume
that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best for
me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just
be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind
consumers should be happy with.

On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move
on.  Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the
world wasn't going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening
isn't a big deal for me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all
that much for calling anyway.  If I need power sooner, I'll buy the
Belcan thingie.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com 
Strømberg" >
Cc: Terje Strømberg >
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on
the sales figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for
sighted people.

Take care



8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore 

question about Overcast podcast app

[Dave]

Hi, I am a new user of this podcast app.

One question, i would like to ask, of anyone else, who uses this particular app.

I have the premium version, which removes adds, and also allows you to upload.

The upload button in settings, just says uploads on or off.

Obviously, i know what upload means, but not sure what it means, in regards to 
this app.

Hope someone can help?

Dave.

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Re: Returning an audible book using your i-device

[Marie]

I have trouble returning a book on the web site but if you call them and 
tell them the problem they will do it for you. They are very helpful on this 
issue



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From: Mary Otten

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:32 PM
To: VIPhone 'ChalmersAS' via
Subject: Returning an audible book using your i-device

For the past several months, it has been possible to return an audible book 
you purchase if you did not like it. I have done this on occasion using my 
computer. But apparently, you can't do it from an iPhone. Maybe I'm missing 
something. Has anybody had experience successfully returning a book using 
your iPhone or iPad?

Mary


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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Marie]

You don't understand my meaning. The fact that you need to buy an expensive 
pair of wireless ear buds is a plus for Apple.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

no. you have to buy them separatly.

-Original Message- 
From: Marie

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

Instead they are offering the $150 Air pods?

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Merritt

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

In addition, as has been said before elsewhere, they may be removing
the headphone jack this year so they can really wow everyone with
something special next year. As one podcaster pointed out this week,
this year the main topic of conversation is the headphone jack
disappearing. While next year, everyone or most people will have moved
on from that and will be talking about whatever special item they're
working on for the 10 year iPhone. I don't like it any better than
other people, but at least they're helping to ease the transition by
including an adaptor in the box this year. They could just as easily
charge $20 or $30 for that $9 adaptor, and make us buy it as an
accessory.

Wayne

On 9/9/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when
it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones
still have a headphone jack.

IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being
well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure
what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any
improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones,
you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure,
you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for
now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the
headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.

I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that
have been added and not those that have been removed.

On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are
much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be
addressing in my opinion.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but
it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let
Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't
put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I
would doubt it.

I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack
is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted
peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the
lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing
their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for
granted on all of their electronics for years.

It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers,
shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you
just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about
blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to
get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made.
I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume
that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best for
me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just
be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind
consumers should be happy with.

On 09/09/16 

Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

That one isn't available in the canadian app store.

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> Another app to try is plain text.
> - Original Message - From: "SSEric" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Editing files in dropbox
> 
> 
>> Take a look at drop text. It is a very simple editor and is free. I hope it 
>> does what you are looking for.
>> 
>> Eric
>> sseri...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> I'm wondering if anyone knows of an ap that will let me edit files that are 
>> stored in my dropbox without having to download them first?
>> What I want to do is open a document within an ap, edit it, and have the 
>> changes save directly to dropbox, the way you can with a computer.
>> Is this even possible? If so, which ap can I use?
>> I'd prefer a free ap if possible.
>> Thanks in advance for any recommendations.
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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Robert Doc Wright]

Another app to try is plain text.
- Original Message - 
From: "SSEric" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Editing files in dropbox


Take a look at drop text. It is a very simple editor and is free. I hope 
it does what you are looking for.


Eric
sseri...@gmail.com


On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:

Hi everyone.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of an ap that will let me edit files that 
are stored in my dropbox without having to download them first?
What I want to do is open a document within an ap, edit it, and have the 
changes save directly to dropbox, the way you can with a computer.

Is this even possible? If so, which ap can I use?
I'd prefer a free ap if possible.
Thanks in advance for any recommendations.

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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

Notesy is seven bucks, and permaNote which is what Nebulous is called now is 
almost ten.
How is there no current free app that will edit text files directly in dropbox? 
I'd think this kind of thing would be really popular.

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:11 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> How about Notesy, or Nebulous Notes?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>> 
>> Chris,
>> VoiceDream writer costs a lot more than I'd be willing to pay.
>> Wayne, Plain text isn't available in the canadian app store.
>> Thank you both for the suggestions, 
>> I appreciate them.
>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I know you were looking for a free app, but I can say that even though the 
>>> app is not free, Voice Dream Writer will do what you want.
>>> You can open files in Writer directly from Dropbox, then you can edit or 
>>> add to the file, and once you are done, you can export the file back to 
>>> dropbox saving over the original file.
>>> I just tried it myself, and it worked just fine.
>>> 
>>> Voice Dream Writer is a very good app, still has support from the 
>>> developer, and has a lot of great features.  Here is the app store link:
>>> 
>>> Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC
>>> https://appsto.re/us/8UV32.i
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
 
 Ok, all access note seems to be able too do is add files to dropbox.
 I want to be able too work on files already in my db folders.
 Thanks for the suggestion though, Wayne, I appreciate it.
 
> On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Wayne, I'll check that app out.
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Cheryl: you might try AccessNote from AFB. That app is free and you
>> can save your files directly to Dropbox. I don't recall offhand if the
>> saves happen automatically or if you have to tell it to save. Either
>> way, it might work for what you want.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 9/9/16, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>>> That sounds like exactly what I want. Unfortunately it's not free and 
>>> hasn't
>>> been updated since 2013.
>>> 
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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Anthony Vece]

The iPhone (SE) is the same size as the iPhone (5S.
I owned them both.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone SE

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:22 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Somebody already said, iPhone SE is more less iPhone 6S in the 5/5S case. I 
> doubt the next version of small iPhone will get out in 2017. but I'm 
> expecting it in 2018.
> 
> Regarding shooting with KNFB, in iOS 10 update you'll be able to shoot photos 
> with volume buttons as in the stock app.
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>  
>  
> 10.9.2016. u 2:12, Dianne Phelps je napisao/la:
>> I still question why the size keeps enlarging? When I upgraded the last 
>> time, I looked at the 6 and 6+, which, I felt was like carrying a tablet 
>> around. That may well be important for sighted consumers, but I am tired of 
>> trying of carrying these huge things around. I need something which fits in 
>> a pocket without falling out or in a small purse. I need decent sound and 
>> some ability to connect with my hearing aids. This all means I am still 
>> interested in the SE. Having a nice camera on board would be nice for when I 
>> want to hand my phone to someone to take a picture, though since my sister 
>> and sister-in-law are the shutter bug historians for our family, it is not 
>> totally necessary for me.
>>  
>> With the sizes as they now are, I may as well pack my Surface around.
>>  
>> I like a great deal of what Apple has done   with this product and 
>> for their attention to our needs with Voiceover and commend them for these 
>> products. I need Siri to become more accurate, though, it has improved 
>> immensely from its beginning and anticipate continued improvement. The 
>> camera concerns me only in as much as I depend upon KNFB reader, and the 
>> best quality of camera we can have may be important to its performance. I 
>> figure the SE may be better than the camera on the 6.
>>  
>> Lastly, I think the reason the size of the 6 also bothers me is, because I 
>> have small hands, and I find the larger size harder to hold at times, 
>> especially when using the KNFB Reader. I find it difficult to both hold the 
>> iPhone and double tap to take the picture.
>>  
>> Ok, I am off my cantankerous  soap box now. Just my thoughts since for me 
>> earphone jack or not isn’t the largest issue.
>>  
>> Relax and enjoy the weekend. As my great grandmother used to say, it will 
>> all come out in the “worsh”. She was Irish and wash came out sounding like 
>> worsh.
>>  
>> Smiling,
>>  
>> Dianne and Hibiscus
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Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Wendy Alling]

Hi, using the AT app, I had no problem pre-ordering my iPhone 7. Although, I 
had to do it twice. The first time it wouldn't allow me to type in the payment 
field where you put in your credit card expiration date and year. The second 
time everything work. It's a bit tricky but it's doable.

Sent from Wendy's iPhone

On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:

Nothing extra had to be done… All I did is double tap on the links and choices 
and they all chose as expected… I didn't have to do anything like the other 
users…

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2016, at 11:07 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Can you describe in greater detail for instance as someone else selected 
> color did you use the same method? And was capacity a similar on screen 
> element?
> Thanks for teaching me.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Peter Logan
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
> through AT
> 
> I had absolutely no issues using their app… Maybe it was just really 
> congested yesterday…
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Wow it did not perform that way yesterday at all.  I could have held it for 
>> a decade and nothing changed and could you find the element to select 
>> capacity? Just curious. Thanks bunches for reporting back.
>> Robin (who wishes she could test this out now, hmm)
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Conrad Bennett
>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
>> through AT
>> 
>> I just tried it with the iOS app it worked well you have to double tap and 
>> hold on the collar for a few seconds then it will come up with the option to 
>> select the color that you want then you tap to select the link toward the 
>> bottom of the screen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not with AT, but I have been an AT custoemr before, and can
>>> recall many instances on their site where there were accessibility
>>> issues. Good luck in your dialog with them. I hope they fix their
>>> issues.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 9/9/16, Robin Frost  wrote:
 Hi,
 My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list but
 since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as well 
 as
 touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
 I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of upgrading
 a device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via their
 site with a screen reader?
 My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and on
 the web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements
 which for some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site using
 VoiceOver or a screen reader.
 Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully improve
 their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be helpful
 to gage the experiences of others should there be any.
 It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of moving
 through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you were
 to select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a 
 link
 for instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any other
 gesture you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were good
 and stuck with no way forward.
 On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and storage
 capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine but
 list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 windows
 screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the continue
 links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were
 quite tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
 If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that
 which I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively communicate
 with AT in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going
 forward.  By and large I feel AT has done a decent job concerning
 accessibility both in their iOS app and on site.  Here’s hoping this 
 glitchy
 area can be ironed out too.
 Robin
 
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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Bill Gallik]

Did I understand correctly that the iPhone 7 has been made smaller, more like 
an iPhone 5/5S vs. the iPhone 6/6S?

And if this indeed be the case (shrinkage of iPhone 7) might not this be the 
rationale Apple considered in eliminating the 3.5 MM audio jack?  This seems to 
follow as the “Physical Home Button” has likewise been eliminated; this design 
allowing for a larger viewing screen while allowing for the overall size of the 
iPhone to be reduced?
Just a thought!

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Re: What are the additional functions of the Home button on the new iPhone 7's?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
I don't now do I understand this correctly.
There is no Home button as button on iPhone 7. There is just a
  screen area which performs Home functions with specific haptic
  feedback, something similar but not exactly like capacitive keys
  on Android devices.
So, functionality of this 3D Home is the same as it was with
  physical button on prior devices. Single click is Home or Exit,
  double click is App Switcher, tripple click is Accessibility
  shortcut etc.. It is just you're not pressing the actual button,
  you pressing the screen and get tactile feedbak which should feel
  like you pressed the physical button.



  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

11.9.2016. u 3:24, Kramlinger, Keith
  G., M.D. je napisao/la:


  
  
  
  
So what does a
force touch of the Home button do?Is it different from Lock
Screen and when unlocked?
 
Thanks, Keith
 

  
From:
viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What are the additional functions of
the Home button on the new iPhone 7's?
  

 

  
This is just an iPhone feature.  They
  have added force touch to the home button.
  
  
 
  
  
Chris
  


   


  
On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
wrote:


  
Hi,
 
What are the additional functions of
  the Home button on the new iPhone 7’s? Is this only on the
  iPhone 7’s, and not part of iOS 10?
 
Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Somebody already said, iPhone SE is more less iPhone 6S in the
  5/5S case. I doubt the next version of small iPhone will get out
  in 2017. but I'm expecting it in 2018.
Regarding shooting with KNFB, in iOS 10 update you'll be able to
  shoot photos with volume buttons as in the stock app.



  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

10.9.2016. u 2:12, Dianne Phelps je
  napisao/la:


  
  
  
  
I still question why the size keeps
  enlarging? When I upgraded the last time, I looked at the 6
  and 6+, which, I felt was like carrying a tablet around. That
  may well be important for sighted consumers, but I am tired of
  trying of carrying these huge things around. I need something
  which fits in a pocket without falling out or in a small
  purse. I need decent sound and some ability to connect with my
  hearing aids. This all means I am still interested in the SE.
  Having a nice camera on board would be nice for when I want to
  hand my phone to someone to take a picture, though since my
  sister and sister-in-law are the shutter bug historians for
  our family, it is not totally necessary for me.
 
With the sizes as they now are, I may as
  well pack my Surface around.
 
I like a great deal of what Apple has done
  with this product and for their attention to our needs with
  Voiceover and commend them for these products. I need Siri to
  become more accurate, though, it has improved immensely from
  its beginning and anticipate continued improvement. The camera
  concerns me only in as much as I depend upon KNFB reader, and
  the best quality of camera we can have may be important to its
  performance. I figure the SE may be better than the camera on
  the 6.
 
Lastly, I think the reason the size of the
  6 also bothers me is, because I have small hands, and I find
  the larger size harder to hold at times, especially when using
  the KNFB Reader. I find it difficult to both hold the iPhone
  and double tap to take the picture.
 
Ok, I am off my cantankerous  soap box now.
  Just my thoughts since for me earphone jack or not isn’t the
  largest issue.
 
Relax and enjoy the weekend. As my great
  grandmother used to say, it will all come out in the “worsh”.
  She was Irish and wash came out sounding like worsh.
 
Smiling,
 
Dianne and Hibiscus
  
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Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Peter Logan]

Nothing extra had to be done… All I did is double tap on the links and choices 
and they all chose as expected… I didn't have to do anything like the other 
users…

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2016, at 11:07 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Can you describe in greater detail for instance as someone else selected 
> color did you use the same method? And was capacity a similar on screen 
> element?
> Thanks for teaching me.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Peter Logan
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
> through AT
> 
> I had absolutely no issues using their app… Maybe it was just really 
> congested yesterday…
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Wow it did not perform that way yesterday at all.  I could have held it for 
>> a decade and nothing changed and could you find the element to select 
>> capacity? Just curious. Thanks bunches for reporting back.
>> Robin (who wishes she could test this out now, hmm)
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Conrad Bennett
>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
>> through AT
>> 
>> I just tried it with the iOS app it worked well you have to double tap and 
>> hold on the collar for a few seconds then it will come up with the option to 
>> select the color that you want then you tap to select the link toward the 
>> bottom of the screen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not with AT, but I have been an AT custoemr before, and can
>>> recall many instances on their site where there were accessibility
>>> issues. Good luck in your dialog with them. I hope they fix their
>>> issues.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 9/9/16, Robin Frost  wrote:
 Hi,
 My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list but
 since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as well 
 as
 touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
 I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of upgrading
 a device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via their
 site with a screen reader?
 My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and on
 the web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements
 which for some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site using
 VoiceOver or a screen reader.
 Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully improve
 their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be helpful
 to gage the experiences of others should there be any.
 It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of moving
 through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you were
 to select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a 
 link
 for instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any other
 gesture you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were good
 and stuck with no way forward.
 On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and storage
 capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine but
 list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 windows
 screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the continue
 links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were
 quite tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
 If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that
 which I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively communicate
 with AT in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going
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 Robin
 
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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[englishrider91]

How about Notesy, or Nebulous Notes?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> VoiceDream writer costs a lot more than I'd be willing to pay.
> Wayne, Plain text isn't available in the canadian app store.
> Thank you both for the suggestions, 
> I appreciate them.
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I know you were looking for a free app, but I can say that even though the 
>> app is not free, Voice Dream Writer will do what you want.
>> You can open files in Writer directly from Dropbox, then you can edit or add 
>> to the file, and once you are done, you can export the file back to dropbox 
>> saving over the original file.
>> I just tried it myself, and it worked just fine.
>> 
>> Voice Dream Writer is a very good app, still has support from the developer, 
>> and has a lot of great features.  Here is the app store link:
>> 
>> Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC
>> https://appsto.re/us/8UV32.i
>> 
>> Hope this helps!
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, all access note seems to be able too do is add files to dropbox.
>>> I want to be able too work on files already in my db folders.
>>> Thanks for the suggestion though, Wayne, I appreciate it.
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
 
 Thanks, Wayne, I'll check that app out.
 
> On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Cheryl: you might try AccessNote from AFB. That app is free and you
> can save your files directly to Dropbox. I don't recall offhand if the
> saves happen automatically or if you have to tell it to save. Either
> way, it might work for what you want.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 9/9/16, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>> That sounds like exactly what I want. Unfortunately it's not free and 
>> hasn't
>> been updated since 2013.
>> 
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Difficulty syncing selected ringtones

[Robin Frost]

Hi everyone,
I try not to come to the list too often in need but apparently this is my day 
to cast myself on the mercy of those smarter than am I.  I know this has been 
covered before in the recent past but I can’t for the love of all wisdom find 
the message pertaining to it. So my apologies in advance for revisiting ground 
already covered.
I swear I really did used to know how to sync selected ringtones with ease but 
with the current version of iTunes and JFW or NVDA I’m good and confounded.  My 
tones are in my iTunes library.  If I click on sync all ringtones I can see all 
of them under my device area; but if I switch to sync selected ringtones 
nowhere can I find the list view whereby I can go through and check the ones I 
would like.  I’m sure I’m missing something ridiculously obvious somewhere I 
just do not know what it is or why this is suddenly more difficult.  Thanks in 
advance to anyone who’d be kind enough to refresh my knowledge and walk me 
through this.
Robin

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