date:20161027

Have you allowed them access to the camera? Usually the app will prompt you to 
do so when you first open it, but if you somehow skipped over this you can go 
to Settings > Privacy and see if Money Reader is allowed access to the camera 
in the camera section.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?
I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.
HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.
I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.
So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.
But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.
I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.
I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.
I am now more mystified than ever.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks very much.
Evan

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RE: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Exactly what happens when I try it. I’d really like to be in the same room as 
that Apple Accessibility clown who says he can’t reproduce it. Maybe he forgot 
to turn on Voiceover!

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Apple 
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Trying to move by character from the start is even worse. It does the same 
overly verbose "character mode insertion point between h and a in second 
position attachment." Then, it just bongs. It won't move after that.
Richard
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya

(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 27, 2016, at 7:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hi Richard,

Exactly my experience as far as the "attachment" is concerned. Have you tried 
it going forward from the beginning, i.e. when you are in the edit field double 
tap to move the insertion point to the beginning and then swipe down to go 
forward.

I also remember that in some emails (haven't noticed it lately) Voiceover would 
sometimes read a character about 4 or 5 spaces in from the beginning of the 
line as "attachment". Like I said, I noticed that during the original iOS 10 
beta cycle, have to test it again now to see if it's still there.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Greetings,
I am copying Apple Accessibility and the VIPhone list on this reply.
Following the steps described in the response below from Apple Accessibility:
1.  I went to applevis.com and double tapped in the search 
this site field.
2.  I entered Ham Radio
3.  I put focus outside of the edit field so the on screen keyboard went away.
4.  I double tapped on the edit field again, which brought back the onscreen 
keyboard and VoiceOver said "incertion point at end.".
5.  I turned the rotor to character and flicked up and heard "ham radio, 
character mode, incertion point between I and o in the 9th position, 
attachment."

Before iOS 10, I would simply hear the characters as I flicked.
This is completely too verbose for words.
Yes, I did eventually hear the characters, but not the way any sane person 
would want to hear them.
And, why on Earth is it saying "attachment?"

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Well here is one thing I don't understand. Why would you exit out of the 
on-screen keyboard if you wanted to go back and review what you typed in the 
search field and possibly make a correction? What's that about? Maybe this 
person doesn't understand why we would actually use this feature?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Hi again List,

Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with 
reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person who 
apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce the 
problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe others can 
reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where they have 
encountered this. Here is the reply:

-Original Message-
From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
To: siegh...@live.ca
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Hello,
Thank you for your email. So far I am unable to reproduce this. I went to 
Applevis.com and select the search field there.
I then typed in a search term. I then exited out of the on screen keyboard and 
double tapped so I was in the search field.
I then used the rotor to select characters and flicked up and down. VO called 
out the characters going forwards and backwards.
Can you provide the exact steps you are using to cause this issue?

Apple Accessibility

For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:

Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

2016-10-27 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
Have you rebooted since install? I ask because sometimes Money Reader goes into 
a coma here and though it’s running won’t identify money but if I reboot it’ll 
spring back to life.
Good luck.
Robin


From: Evan Reese 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

2016-10-27 Thread Larry Lumpkin

Sorry Evan.   I’ve got the app on a new iphone 7 running ios 10 and it works 
fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner   

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Trying to move by character from the start is even worse. It does the same 
overly verbose "character mode insertion point between h and a in second 
position attachment." Then, it just bongs. It won't move after that.
Richard

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya

(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 27, 2016, at 7:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Exactly my experience as far as the "attachment" is concerned. Have you tried 
it going forward from the beginning, i.e. when you are in the edit field double 
tap to move the insertion point to the beginning and then swipe down to go 
forward.

I also remember that in some emails (haven't noticed it lately) Voiceover would 
sometimes read a character about 4 or 5 spaces in from the beginning of the 
line as "attachment". Like I said, I noticed that during the original iOS 10 
beta cycle, have to test it again now to see if it's still there.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Greetings,
I am copying Apple Accessibility and the VIPhone list on this reply.
Following the steps described in the response below from Apple Accessibility:
1.  I went to applevis.com and double tapped in the search 
this site field.
2.  I entered Ham Radio
3.  I put focus outside of the edit field so the on screen keyboard went away.
4.  I double tapped on the edit field again, which brought back the onscreen 
keyboard and VoiceOver said "incertion point at end.".
5.  I turned the rotor to character and flicked up and heard "ham radio, 
character mode, incertion point between I and o in the 9th position, 
attachment."

Before iOS 10, I would simply hear the characters as I flicked.
This is completely too verbose for words.
Yes, I did eventually hear the characters, but not the way any sane person 
would want to hear them.
And, why on Earth is it saying "attachment?"

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Well here is one thing I don't understand. Why would you exit out of the 
on-screen keyboard if you wanted to go back and review what you typed in the 
search field and possibly make a correction? What's that about? Maybe this 
person doesn't understand why we would actually use this feature?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Hi again List,

Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with 
reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person who 
apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce the 
problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe others can 
reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where they have 
encountered this. Here is the reply:

-Original Message-
From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
To: siegh...@live.ca
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Hello,
Thank you for your email. So far I am unable to reproduce this. I went to 
Applevis.com and select the search field there.
I then typed in a search term. I then exited out of the on screen keyboard and 
double tapped so I was in the search field.
I then used the rotor to select characters and flicked up and down. VO called 
out the characters going forwards and backwards.
Can you provide the exact steps you are using to cause this issue?

Apple Accessibility

For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
https://support.apple.com/accessibility

On October 26, 2016 at 18:12:52 PM GMT, 
siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi,

I have an iPhone 6S Plus and recently updated to iOS 10.1. I wanted to make you 
aware of a bug which prevents me from fully navigating/reviewing text I type 
into a search field on any website in Safari. If I type in a search term and 
double tap in the search field to move the insertion point to the beginning and 
then try to move character by

Re: issue labelling buttons in an app

2016-10-27 Thread Randy Stegall

Thanks, I'll take a look at it.

Randy

Sent from my iPhone 6 S Plus

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:55 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> “Christian Audio

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Just a test

2016-10-27 Thread Terri Stimmel

Hello everybody,

I'm sorry to bother you all with this test. I just want to see if email will go 
through, using my iPhone. Right now it won't with my laptop, and I can't figure 
out why.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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Re: Glass Screen Protecter?

2016-10-27 Thread Shaf Patel

You can certainly use 3d touch if you're blind, and it's very useful.

On 10/28/2016 3:51 AM, Dianne Phelps wrote:
> Because of a phone, my 6 falling out of a pocket, hitting the floor, I
> had a major phone trauma-drama. Yes, part of my screen shattered in the
> upper left part of the screen with a jagged piece where the speaker for
> the phone is, and nasty little glass splinters under fingers. There  was
> a process whereby I could have had my phone replaced because I pay for
> the insurance. I have been saying for quite some time that the 6 was
> just too big in general for me, and I opted to pay off my contract and
> get the SE which, so far, is terrific. Being totally blind, I am not
> sure I could use three-D touch anyway.
> 
>  
> 
> I did purchase a glass screen protecter  for it, and though I have
> placed the sticky ones myself before, I had my little sister place it
> for me for which I am most thankful. She digs me out of my computer
> foibles around here when she visits. Normally, I am on my own with this
> stuff and, for the most part, we manage just fine. But every once in a
> while, we hit a snag, and if I can’t ultimately solve it myself, I am
> stuck until I can borrow someone’s eyes to help.
> 
>  
> 
> I also updated my Microsoft Surface on my own this morning, and the
> changes threw me off terribly. Thankfully, she was coming down today,
> and when she could tell me what she could see on the screen and where I
> needed to get JAWS to be, it was solved.
> 
>  
> 
> This is why I have kind of a love/hate relationship with all of this stuff.
> 
>  
> 
> Hopefully, Apple will get the bug infestation in IOS 10.1 fixed before
> too long, though I have been mostly all right with it.
> 
>  
> 
> Take care, everyone and have a terrific weekend.
> 
>  
> 
> Dianne and Hibiscus
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RE: issue labelling buttons in an app

2016-10-27 Thread R Van Lant

It’s called “Christian Audio”, which is like an Audible.com for Christian books.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Randy Stegall
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: issue labelling buttons in an app

What app is this?
Randy

Sent from my iPhone 6 S Plus

On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:14 PM, R Van Lant 
> wrote:
Update on this.  Now I’m also seeing that the library menu still seems to be 
somehow overlaying over the player after I’ve clicked on the book I want and 
can see that the player has loaded.  That may be playing into my labelling 
issue.  If I hit the large arrow for play, the book starts playing, but if I 
move my finger up the screen it’s reading the names of the other books in my 
library,




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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R Van Lant
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:50 PM
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Subject: issue labelling buttons in an app

Hi,
I just watched a little video on YouTube to refresh my memory on labeling 
unlabeled buttons, and I’m still not getting it to work.  I double tap and hold 
on the button and I heard three ascending tone, not the sound on the video.  I 
do not get the edit box. This is in the Christian Audio app, which has a built 
in audio book player.  Is it possible that the buttons cannot be labelled?  
I’ll give feedback to the company, but would love a short term solution, as the 
play, rewind, fast forward buttons are not labeled.


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Glass Screen Protecter?

2016-10-27 Thread Dianne Phelps

Because of a phone, my 6 falling out of a pocket, hitting the floor, I had a
major phone trauma-drama. Yes, part of my screen shattered in the upper left
part of the screen with a jagged piece where the speaker for the phone is,
and nasty little glass splinters under fingers. There  was a process whereby
I could have had my phone replaced because I pay for the insurance. I have
been saying for quite some time that the 6 was just too big in general for
me, and I opted to pay off my contract and get the SE which, so far, is
terrific. Being totally blind, I am not sure I could use three-D touch
anyway.

 

I did purchase a glass screen protecter  for it, and though I have placed
the sticky ones myself before, I had my little sister place it for me for
which I am most thankful. She digs me out of my computer foibles around here
when she visits. Normally, I am on my own with this stuff and, for the most
part, we manage just fine. But every once in a while, we hit a snag, and if
I can't ultimately solve it myself, I am stuck until I can borrow someone's
eyes to help.

 

I also updated my Microsoft Surface on my own this morning, and the changes
threw me off terribly. Thankfully, she was coming down today, and when she
could tell me what she could see on the screen and where I needed to get
JAWS to be, it was solved.

 

This is why I have kind of a love/hate relationship with all of this stuff.

 

Hopefully, Apple will get the bug infestation in IOS 10.1 fixed before too
long, though I have been mostly all right with it.

 

Take care, everyone and have a terrific weekend.

 

Dianne and Hibiscus

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RE: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

Not bad, now they just have to do the same for iCloud.com and their surveys.


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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:18 PM
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Subject: Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

The new web site is:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Chuck Dean 
> wrote:
Here's a link to the podcast: 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665?mt=2#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fapple_keynotes%2F2016%2FOct_2016_SD.m4v


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Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

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RE: Apple launches new ‘TV’ app

There is no word about the subscription service and from what I understand it 
is a long ways off.

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I'm disappointed.  When I read the subject line, I was hoping this would be 
Apple's TV subscription service.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2016, at 1:46 PM, christopher hallsworth 
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http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/10/27/apple-launches-new-tv-app/
Apple launches new ‘TV’ app

[hello again event TV app demo]

Apple on Thursday kicked off its Hello Again event by announcing a new app it’s 
simply calling ‘TV.’ Tim Cook claimed that his team believes it will 
“completely change how you watch TV on your Apple TV as well as your iPhone and 
iPad.”

The app, as rumored, is essentially a super TV guide that surfaces shows and 
movies from all of your apps. “The new TV app is the first place I go when I 
use my Apple TV.” Selecting a title within the TV app kicks you into its 
respective app.

[hello again event watch now TV app]

When you install a new app on your Apple TV, it’ll instantly sign you in with 
your cable single-sign on, and it’ll populate Watch Now with content. 
Unfortunately it looks like the rumors were true that Netflix hasn’t agreed to 
be part of the program.

Fan of live sports? All you need to do is tell Siri to “turn on the game.” Siri 
knows which app has the game and takes you straight to the action. You can 
either request a specific game, like “the Cubs game,” or view a list all 
available streaming games.

To be honest, this looks awesome. Can’t wait to try it out when it becomes 
available in December.
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RE: itunes codes

15% is not bad, I usually wait for a 20% deal and then stock up. Costco here in 
Canada seems to often have a 4-pack of $25 gift cards ($100 value) on for $80. 
Of course you need to be a member there to buy them or know somebody who is and 
who will buy them for you which is how I do I t.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: itunes codes

I dont’ know
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Wow would this apply to Mexico also?
> 
> El 27/10/2016 07:19 p.m., Sarai Bucciarelli escribió:
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Paypal has 15% off iTunes gift codes. Just FYI
>> 
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> Tampico, Tamaulipas México
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RE: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Hi Richard,

Exactly my experience as far as the "attachment" is concerned. Have you tried 
it going forward from the beginning, i.e. when you are in the edit field double 
tap to move the insertion point to the beginning and then swipe down to go 
forward.

I also remember that in some emails (haven't noticed it lately) Voiceover would 
sometimes read a character about 4 or 5 spaces in from the beginning of the 
line as "attachment". Like I said, I noticed that during the original iOS 10 
beta cycle, have to test it again now to see if it's still there.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: RE: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Greetings,
I am copying Apple Accessibility and the VIPhone list on this reply.
Following the steps described in the response below from Apple Accessibility:
1.  I went to applevis.com and double tapped in the search this site field.
2.  I entered Ham Radio
3.  I put focus outside of the edit field so the on screen keyboard went away.
4.  I double tapped on the edit field again, which brought back the onscreen 
keyboard and VoiceOver said "incertion point at end.".
5.  I turned the rotor to character and flicked up and heard "ham radio, 
character mode, incertion point between I and o in the 9th position, 
attachment."

Before iOS 10, I would simply hear the characters as I flicked.
This is completely too verbose for words.
Yes, I did eventually hear the characters, but not the way any sane person 
would want to hear them.
And, why on Earth is it saying "attachment?"

Richard

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Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Well here is one thing I don't understand. Why would you exit out of the 
on-screen keyboard if you wanted to go back and review what you typed in the 
search field and possibly make a correction? What's that about? Maybe this 
person doesn't understand why we would actually use this feature?
Mary

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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi again List,
> 
> Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with 
> reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person 
> who apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce 
> the problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe others 
> can reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where they have 
> encountered this. Here is the reply:
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
> To: siegh...@live.ca
> Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into 
> a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357
> 
> Hello, 
> Thank you for your email. So far I am unable to reproduce this. I went to 
> Applevis.com and select the search field there. 
> I then typed in a search term. I then exited out of the on screen keyboard 
> and double tapped so I was in the search field. 
> I then used the rotor to select characters and flicked up and down. VO called 
> out the characters going forwards and backwards. 
> Can you provide the exact steps you are using to cause this issue? 
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> https://support.apple.com/accessibility
> 
> 
>> On October 26, 2016 at 18:12:52 PM GMT, siegh...@live.ca wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 6S Plus and recently updated to iOS 10.1. I wanted to make 
>> you aware of a bug which prevents me from fully navigating/reviewing text I 
>> type into a search field on any website in Safari. If I type in a search 
>> term and double tap in the search field to move the insertion point to the 
>> beginning and then try to move character by character to review what I typed 
>> Voiceover repeats the entire search term and then tells me the insertion 
>> point is between the first and second position and I am not able to move it 
>> from there.
>> If I double tap again the insertion point moves to the end and I can flick 
>> backwards to what I typed, but Voiceover does not read each letter as it 
>> should, it tells me insertion point between, for example, 10th and 11th 
>> position between "l" and "l". This example of course assumes I typed 
>> something which has "ll" in 10th and 11th position.
>> This bug is rather annoying and I have heard reports from

RE: voice over questions

Hi Daniel,

I'm curious why you mention 10% or higher, to my knowledge the actual level of 
screen brightness has nothing at all to do with the screen curtain. Brightness 
is simply the level of backlighting which makes the screen easier to see in 
bright conditions like sunlight. If you are not in bright surroundings the 
screen is perfectly readable at 0%, just maybe a bit harder to see and 
definitely harder to see when somebody looks from an angle, but at 6 or 8% 
already it is very easy to read in many conditions.
Screen curtain artifically blackens the screen, just as the blue sky in a 
picture makes the screen look blue, screen curtain simply makes it black all 
over. This is also why it does nothing at all for battery savings, if your 
brightness is set relatively high and screen curtain is turned on you use just 
as much power as when screen curtain is turned off.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice over questions

Hi Louise,

Screen Curtain is a feature that you can toggle with a three finger triple tap. 
 If you keep your screen brightness at 10% or higher, screen curtain will 
simply make your screen black so anyone near you can't see your screen.  I find 
that it is simpler just to bring your brightness down to 0% as this will help 
in saving battery life.

The second item is toggled by performing a three finger double tap, and does 
exactly what it says, turns off the speech.  It doesn't turn off VoiceOver, 
just silences the speech.  You still interact with the device the same way, 
it's just that you won't hear VoiceOver speak, but you will hear the sounds and 
clicks.

Hope this helps!


From:   Louise Peyton 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/10/27 1:52 PM
Subject:voice over questions

Hello:
When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear "screen courtain on."  How do I get rid of 
this message?
Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
which says "speech off."  Is the "speech off" feature a part of the main 
screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
Louise

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RE: Spodify subscription question

It should, works fine for an Apple Music subscription so unless Apple somehow 
doesn't allow third-party subscriptions it should be fine.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:23 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Cc: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Spodify subscription question


Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

Hi:
I have my spodify subscription paid through itunes. If I get an itunes card, 
will that pay for my subscription?

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Spodify subscription question


Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

Hi:
I have my spodify subscription paid through itunes. If I get an itunes card, 
will that pay for my subscription?

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RE: Apple watch

2016-10-27 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Have you tried increasing the volume?

2 finger tap and hold near the bottom of the screen and then slide up. There is 
a good range of volume between 0% and 100% to my ears. I rarely go above 50%, 
but in noisy environs I will turn it up to 80%.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Stuart Deadman
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple watch

Hi Linda, I have just purchased the Apple Watch Series 2. I will be returning 
it this week, as the speaker volume is very low! Voiceover is clear enough in a 
quiet environment, but outside you can forget it!

Stuart Deadman


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynda Ingraham
Sent: 26 September 2016 12:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; 
viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple watch

How loud is the volume on the watch? I wear hearing aids and an worried I won't 
be able to hear it very well. Thinkinking about the new watch. Thank you.

Lynda

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On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:03 AM, Paul Hunt 
> wrote:
Hello Jeremy. I love my Apple watch and use it all the time. It is the coolest 
and unnecessary device that I've ever owned. For this reason I would replace 
the watch when I could no longer update the Watch OS.

On Sep 24, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Jeremy Gilley 
> wrote:
Ok,

So, I am a guy who likes his toys, but because I like my toys, I tend to not 
care of the pricing of them as long as they are well worth the money.
So, the first watch that came out, I didn't think twice about not getting it 
because it was just the first version.
I am now thinking of buying the new version, however, something is making me 
pause.
Do you think these watches will come out as frequently as the phones?
If so, man, that might be a stinker because I usually get a new phone every 
single time they come out with a new one. Buying a watch on top of a new phone 
might get nuts. Not to mention expensive.
Thoughts?
I guess if you get a new watch each year, one will learn to sell or put old 
watch on E-Bay?
Anyways, for those of you who got version one, and now version 2 of the watch 
that just came out, what are your views and or opinions?
Do you think you will get a new watch every single year they come out?
Or is it one of those things you play it by ear as each one comes out. If it is 
a massive improvement yeah, but if it is just meh, then you wait?
Anyways, I look forward to views and or opinions.
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Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

2016-10-27 Thread cmohney1961

Good evening folks,
I clicked on the first link and got something saying my podcast.  When I 
clicked on play it said no podcasts chosen?  Can someone please tell me what 
I'm doing wrong.
When I clicked on the second link which was in the next message it showed an 
audio descriptive video of people with differ disabilities doing different 
things.  Is this what was supposed to be in the first link? Thank you.
Connie

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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Same here. Is it a new URL or just a refreshed site? BTW, I still need to 
> listen to the podcast, so sorry if it's covered there.
> 
>> On 27/10/16 19:20, Paul Ferrara wrote:
>> I thought this site was out before; what has changed?
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> *From:* Richard Turner 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:18 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.
>> 
>> The new web site is:
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Chuck Dean > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's a link to the podcast:
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665?mt=2#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fapple_keynotes%2F2016%2FOct_2016_SD.m4v
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RE: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

Follow the link and you will notice immediately.

Richard

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Paul Ferrara
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

I thought this site was out before; what has changed?

Paul

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

The new web site is:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Chuck Dean 
> wrote:
Here's a link to the podcast: 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665?mt=2#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fapple_keynotes%2F2016%2FOct_2016_SD.m4v

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Re: itunes codes

I dont’ know
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Wow would this apply to Mexico also?
> 
> El 27/10/2016 07:19 p.m., Sarai Bucciarelli escribió:
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Paypal has 15% off iTunes gift codes. Just FYI
>> 
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Re: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

I use the Zagg protectors and it works fine.
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I read somewhere that Apple has a little template thingi in their store which 
> makes them aline perfectly. Power to you, Georgina for doing it yourself, but 
> I would get the store to do it because they usually have people who have done 
> it dozens and maybe hundreds of times and are really good at it. I am not 
> saying it can't be done by a totally blind person using touch, but if a 
> sighted person is a little bit clever with things like that they'll be at an 
> advantage. I was fully sighted at one point and while my hand injuries may 
> also have something to do with it, I know for sure that there things that are 
> super-easy for a sighted person which are a bloody pain in the neck for a 
> blind person.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Georgina Joyce
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:18 PM
> To: VI iPhone List 
> Subject: Re: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’ve fitted them myself. I have fitted one to iPad Pro 9.7, 6S Plus and a 7. 
> I think using touch is better than attempting to align by sight. It’s about 
> confidence.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 26 Oct 2016, at 20:58, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Can these glass screen protectors be applied by the blind, or is sighted 
>> assistance necessary?
>> 
>> Thanks, Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D 
>> touch
>> 
>> I have to agree with Mary. A glass screen protector for $7.99 seems a wise 
>> insurance for that one time your iPhone is dropped and takes a hit on its 
>> screen. Insurance policies and AppleCare+ can be a very good investment too 
>> depending on the chance damage might be incurred on the insured item. I 
>> realize the iPhone screen is manufactured to be tough but if I can add 
>> another layer of toughness for a small cash outlay without affecting the 
>> performance of my device, I'm all for it.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D 
>> touch
>> 
>> I have never had an issue with my screen either. But there is a first time 
>> for everything, and these are not very expensive. My husband has had two 
>> scream protectors crack. If it weren't for the fact that he had the screen 
>> protector, the screen would've cracked. He's not using an iPhone, and he's 
>> obviously harder on his phones than I am. But there is a first time for 
>> everything. And given the price, I couldn't disagree with you more about the 
>> advisability of purchasing a screen protector.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is no reason *to* pay for a screen protector. I've never used 
>>> one, never had an issue with my screen.
>>> 
 On 10/25/2016 8:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
 Hi Alan,
 I have used a glass screen protector on an iPhone 5s, 6S, and now my 7+.
 With regard to 3D Touch, I don't see any difference. And frankly, I 
 like the way the glass feels as opposed to the film ones. My finger 
 seems to slide over the screen more smoothly than it does with the film.
 Unfortunately, I don't remember who made the various screen 
 protectors I have, but I can tell you that none of them was very 
 expensive, like 10 bucks or less. I also have a cheap screen 
 protector made out of glass on a Google Nexus six. That doesn't have 
 the 3D Touch of course, but the screen protector has worked well. I 
 wouldn't worry about it. Find one that has good reviews on Amazon that 
 isn't very expensive and go for it.
 There is no reason to pay 30 or $35 for a glass screen protector.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Alan Lemly > wrote:
 
> Hello List,
> 
> 
> 
> I've only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones I've 
> owned. I'm starting to look at accessories for the iPhone 7 which 
> I'm planning to get at the beginning of February and wanted to get 
> opinions from those who have used glass screen protectors on their 
> iPhones.
> 
> 
> 
> I've always considered glass screen protectors to

Re: itunes codes

2016-10-27 Thread Gerardo Corripio


 Wow would this apply to Mexico also?

El 27/10/2016 07:19 p.m., Sarai Bucciarelli escribió:

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Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

2016-10-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Same here. Is it a new URL or just a refreshed site? BTW, I still need
to listen to the podcast, so sorry if it's covered there.

On 27/10/16 19:20, Paul Ferrara wrote:

I thought this site was out before; what has changed?

Paul

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*Subject:* Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

The new web site is:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Chuck Dean > wrote:

Here's a link to the podcast:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665?mt=2#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fapple_keynotes%2F2016%2FOct_2016_SD.m4v

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Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

I thought this site was out before; what has changed?

Paul

From: Richard Turner 
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Subject: Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

The new web site is:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

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  Here's a link to the podcast: 
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RE: Apple watch

2016-10-27 Thread Stuart Deadman

Hi Linda, I have just purchased the Apple Watch Series 2. I will be returning 
it this week, as the speaker volume is very low! Voiceover is clear enough in a 
quiet environment, but outside you can forget it!

Stuart Deadman


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How loud is the volume on the watch? I wear hearing aids and an worried I won't 
be able to hear it very well. Thinkinking about the new watch. Thank you.

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:03 AM, Paul Hunt 
> wrote:
Hello Jeremy. I love my Apple watch and use it all the time. It is the coolest 
and unnecessary device that I've ever owned. For this reason I would replace 
the watch when I could no longer update the Watch OS.

On Sep 24, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Jeremy Gilley 
> wrote:
Ok,

So, I am a guy who likes his toys, but because I like my toys, I tend to not 
care of the pricing of them as long as they are well worth the money.
So, the first watch that came out, I didn't think twice about not getting it 
because it was just the first version.
I am now thinking of buying the new version, however, something is making me 
pause.
Do you think these watches will come out as frequently as the phones?
If so, man, that might be a stinker because I usually get a new phone every 
single time they come out with a new one. Buying a watch on top of a new phone 
might get nuts. Not to mention expensive.
Thoughts?
I guess if you get a new watch each year, one will learn to sell or put old 
watch on E-Bay?
Anyways, for those of you who got version one, and now version 2 of the watch 
that just came out, what are your views and or opinions?
Do you think you will get a new watch every single year they come out?
Or is it one of those things you play it by ear as each one comes out. If it is 
a massive improvement yeah, but if it is just meh, then you wait?
Anyways, I look forward to views and or opinions.
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Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

2016-10-27 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw

Thanks, Richard. 

Sharonda
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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Richard Turner  
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> The new web site is:
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
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>> Here's a link to the podcast: 
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665?mt=2#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fapple_keynotes%2F2016%2FOct_2016_SD.m4v
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Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

The new web site is:
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Re: Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening

2016-10-27 Thread SSEric

This week I received a pair of Bose SoundSport earbuds. They are much like most 
earbuds, except they have the Bose StayHere tips that really keep the buds in 
place. They do sound pretty good. The base is good, although the middle and 
highs could be a little flat. I am no audiophile, though. They have one button 
on one bud for power. On the connecting cable, there is the Apple style 
controls. They come with the regular size tips in place. Changing to the small 
size really made a difference in sound and comfort. They are $150. I bought 
them with the idea I could try them until the Apple EarPods were released and 
then decide which I would prefer. I guess that is out. These are probably 
keepers, though I would really have to like the Apple buds to be comfortable 
with them being separate. It seems like an invitation to lose one. I have heard 
them described as much like the current EarPods. Those I do not like, 
particularly for their material. They never feel as though they will stay in my 
ear.

Eric
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On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:41 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Thanks Mary. Dang, I was really looking forward to these! Lol and I don't even 
have a 7! Oh well... I'll wait. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the article, Mary, I just Googled this a few days ago and there 
> was nothing at the time. I for one really look forward to these and I’m a bit 
> disappointed because I was hoping they would hit the shelves in the next few 
> days while I am still in Calgary and near an Apple Store. Of course I for 
> once applaud Apple on deciding to delay the launch if there are still issues 
> to be resolved, better this way than to release the product half baked so to 
> speak. Probably even more disappointing for people who bought the iPhone 7 or 
> 7 Plus and who are really looking forward t6o an excellent bluetooth 
> earpiece/headset.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
> mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening
>  
> Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening
> MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover
> 
> When Apple debuted its AirPods in September, the company said the wireless 
> earbuds would launch in late October. Now that it's late October, people have 
> been wondering if a release is imminent, but as it turns out, the AirPods are 
> delayed. 
> 
> Apple today told TechCrunch that it needs "a little more time" before the 
> AirPods are ready for a public release, without specifying the reason behind 
> the delay. 
> 
> 
> "The early response to AirPods has been incredible. We don't believe in 
> shipping a product before it's ready, and we need a little more time before 
> AirPods are ready for our customers," an Apple spokesperson said to 
> TechCrunch.
> Apple did not provide TechCrunch with updated launch information, so it is no 
> longer clear when the AirPods will be available for purchase. 
> 
> AirPods are Apple's premium headphone solution for the iPhone 7 and the 
> iPhone 7 Plus, which do not include a headphone jack. AirPods, powered by 
> Bluetooth and an Apple-designed W1 chip, are entirely wireless with no cords 
> between them.
> 
> 
> They include advanced features like infrared sensors to detect when they're 
> in the ear, beam forming microphones to reduce external noise, and 
> accelerometers to respond to touch gestures. 
> 
> AirPods have been in the hands of reviewers since September and have garnered 
> largely positive reviews for the fit, the features, the simple setup, and the 
> easy recharging.
> 
> Tag: AirPods
> 
> Discuss this article in our forums
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> 
> Original Article: 
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Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

2016-10-27 Thread Chuck Dean

Here's a link to the podcast: 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665?mt=2#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fapple_keynotes%2F2016%2FOct_2016_SD.m4v


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Re: Apple launches new ‘TV’ app

2016-10-27 Thread Ryan Mann

I'm disappointed.  When I read the subject line, I was hoping this would be 
Apple's TV subscription service.


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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 1:46 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/10/27/apple-launches-new-tv-app/
> 
> Apple launches new ‘TV’ app
> 
> 
> 
> Apple on Thursday kicked off its Hello Again event by announcing a new app 
> it’s simply calling ‘TV.’ Tim Cook claimed that his team believes it will 
> “completely change how you watch TV on your Apple TV as well as your iPhone 
> and iPad.”
> 
> The app, as rumored, is essentially a super TV guide that surfaces shows and 
> movies from all of your apps. “The new TV app is the first place I go when I 
> use my Apple TV.” Selecting a title within the TV app kicks you into its 
> respective app.
> 
> 
> 
> When you install a new app on your Apple TV, it’ll instantly sign you in with 
> your cable single-sign on, and it’ll populate Watch Now with content. 
> Unfortunately it looks like the rumors were true that Netflix hasn’t agreed 
> to be part of the program.
> 
> Fan of live sports? All you need to do is tell Siri to “turn on the game.” 
> Siri knows which app has the game and takes you straight to the action. You 
> can either request a specific game, like “the Cubs game,” or view a list all 
> available streaming games.
> 
> To be honest, this looks awesome. Can’t wait to try it out when it becomes 
> available in December.
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Re: Music on an 8G iPhone

2016-10-27 Thread Wayne Merritt

In addition, whether you are listening to a radio station, an album, a
custom curated playlist, or other music in Appple Music, adding songs
to your own library in the cloud is super easy!

Wayne

On 10/27/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If she wants free music then her best option is an app like Tune In or
> iHeart radio where she can listen to tons of music for free. If she wants to
> listen to specific music and doesn't mind paying $10 a month I would totally
> recommend she gets an Apple music subscription. As long as she is on WiFi or
> has a data connection and if she has a big enough data plan she never has to
> store a single song on her phone. She can also tell SIRI what she wants to
> listen to and, if you want access and share it with her, you culd subscribe
> to an Apple Music family plan for $14.99 and I think up to 4 people can be
> added to that. The $9.99 and $14.99 is what is costs in Canada, maybe it is
> the same otherwise chances are it might even be less in the US since $10
> Canadian at the current exchange rate is only around $7.50 US. Another way
> to knock 10, 15 or 20% off that subscription cost is to look for discounted
> iTunes gift cards and put enough credit on your account to cover the
> subscription for a year, e.g. if it is $10 a month then buy $120 worth of
> iTunes gift cards which, if you find a 20% off deal would only cost $96 in
> actual cash and then put these on your account and unless you buy other
> stuff this would cover a whole year of Apple Music.
> There are of course other subscriptions like Spotify, Deezer etc., but for
> me Apple Music is the way to go if you are into Apple devices.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Dani Pagador
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:25 AM
> To: iPhone for visually impaired 
> Subject: Music on an 8G iPhone
>
> Hi, Everyone.
> My Mom's got an iPhone with only 8G of storage. She asked about being able
> to listen to music with it.
>
> What are the options I can tell her about? I know about Pandora and Last
> FM--have to learn to use these myself.
>
> But what are her options if she wants to purchase music through iTunes? Can
> she store her music in the Cloud and use either Wifi or her data plan when
> she wants to listen?
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
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RE: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Greetings,
I am copying Apple Accessibility and the VIPhone list on this reply.
Following the steps described in the response below from Apple Accessibility:
1.  I went to applevis.com and double tapped in the search this site field.
2.  I entered Ham Radio
3.  I put focus outside of the edit field so the on screen keyboard went away.
4.  I double tapped on the edit field again, which brought back the onscreen 
keyboard and VoiceOver said "incertion point at end.".
5.  I turned the rotor to character and flicked up and heard "ham radio, 
character mode, incertion point between I and o in the 9th position, 
attachment."

Before iOS 10, I would simply hear the characters as I flicked.
This is completely too verbose for words.
Yes, I did eventually hear the characters, but not the way any sane person 
would want to hear them.
And, why on Earth is it saying "attachment?"

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Well here is one thing I don't understand. Why would you exit out of the 
on-screen keyboard if you wanted to go back and review what you typed in the 
search field and possibly make a correction? What's that about? Maybe this 
person doesn't understand why we would actually use this feature?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi again List,
> 
> Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with 
> reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person 
> who apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce 
> the problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe others 
> can reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where they have 
> encountered this. Here is the reply:
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
> To: siegh...@live.ca
> Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into 
> a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357
> 
> Hello, 
> Thank you for your email. So far I am unable to reproduce this. I went to 
> Applevis.com and select the search field there. 
> I then typed in a search term. I then exited out of the on screen keyboard 
> and double tapped so I was in the search field. 
> I then used the rotor to select characters and flicked up and down. VO called 
> out the characters going forwards and backwards. 
> Can you provide the exact steps you are using to cause this issue? 
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> https://support.apple.com/accessibility
> 
> 
>> On October 26, 2016 at 18:12:52 PM GMT, siegh...@live.ca wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 6S Plus and recently updated to iOS 10.1. I wanted to make 
>> you aware of a bug which prevents me from fully navigating/reviewing text I 
>> type into a search field on any website in Safari. If I type in a search 
>> term and double tap in the search field to move the insertion point to the 
>> beginning and then try to move character by character to review what I typed 
>> Voiceover repeats the entire search term and then tells me the insertion 
>> point is between the first and second position and I am not able to move it 
>> from there.
>> If I double tap again the insertion point moves to the end and I can flick 
>> backwards to what I typed, but Voiceover does not read each letter as it 
>> should, it tells me insertion point between, for example, 10th and 11th 
>> position between "l" and "l". This example of course assumes I typed 
>> something which has "ll" in 10th and 11th position.
>> This bug is rather annoying and I have heard reports from other Voiceover 
>> users that they have encountered the same problem in other apps and other 
>> search fields.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
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Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 651196690

2016-10-27 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Sieghard,
I hope the person who answered you is a first day no experience employee. 
Otherwise, they need to find another one, because this one clearly doesn't know 
what they're talking about. I know I have reported this several times, 
including during the most recent beta cycle, when I mentioned it and gave steps 
about how it was still a bug even in the beta. I have had this on three phones 
now. So it's not isolated and I and pretty disgusted with a response you got. 
And what the hell Goodwood calling do? They could hear how long I had to wait 
over the phone? This employee clearly needs some more training and some more 
background on what has been reported.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I sent in a bug report about the issue with reviewing edit fields on web 
> pages and so I thought while I am at it I send in another report about the 
> issue with Voiceover freezing/being unresponsive for a bit after replying to 
> an email. On my 6S Plus this doesn't happen for long, sometimes maybe just a 
> few seconds, but with longer threads it can also be longer. Anyhow, below is 
> the reply I received in which I was informed that they could not reproduce 
> this and that they had also not received reports from other Voiceover users 
> about this. I had mentioned that I know this has been reported for at least a 
> couple of years now and unless everybody on the list just says they have 
> reported it when they actually haven't done so it would appear that whoever 
> replied to this message is full of it. I'm sure this has been reported many 
> times and I can only urge all of you who use email on your iDevices to do so 
> again and to make the subject and description very clear. Here now that 
> message I received:
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:01 AM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 
> 651196690
> 
> Hello,
> Thank you for your email. So far I have not been able to reproduce this issue 
> and we have not other reports of this. 
> We are unable to offer in depth troubleshooting at this address. 
> If you are in the US or Canada you may want to consider contacting our 
> Accessibility Support team via telephone for further assistance.
> The Accessibility Support number (877- 204-3930) is currently available for 
> users that live in the United States. Support is available during normal 
> hours of operation for AppleCare (8am - 8pm Central Time).
> 
> This new number is available for accessibility users like yourself to receive 
> technical support and to report issues you may be encountering. This email 
> address will still be available for feedback and feature requests as well.
> 
> We also have assistive technology support line is the UK and in Australia.
> In the UK please call 0800 048 0754. 
> In Australia please call (61) 1-300-365-083 For technical support outside of 
> these area, we ask that you please contact AppleCare via the web, telephone 
> or use the Contact Apple Support link to begin an online support session.
> 
> http://www.apple.com/support/contact/
> http://www.apple.com/support/contact/phone_contacts.html
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
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> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
> 
> 
> 
>> On October 26, 2016 at 18:17:55 PM GMT, siegh...@outlook.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I once again want to report this although it is extremely frustrating that 
>> this has not yet been fixed since this problem has existed and has been 
>> reported since iOS 8 came out in 2014 and after 2 years it still persists.
>> If I use the "Reply to" function to send a reply to an email Voiceover 
>> freezes or goes away or whatever it does for anywhere from 10 seconds to a 
>> minute as soon as I press the "Sent" button. I have had calls that came in 
>> during this and I was not able to answer them because my phone appeared 
>> frozen. It seems that the longer the thread/conversation is the longer is 
>> the time of the crash/freezing of the phone.
>> I know many others have reported this and I know a few people have switched 
>> to Outlook now that Outlook is fully accessible and I would really like to 
>> know if people are working on this or if Apple is simply ignoring this as it 
>> is not considered important.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
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Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

2016-10-27 Thread Mary Otten

Well here is one thing I don't understand. Why would you exit out of the 
on-screen keyboard if you wanted to go back and review what you typed in the 
search field and possibly make a correction? What's that about? Maybe this 
person doesn't understand why we would actually use this feature?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi again List,
> 
> Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with 
> reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person 
> who apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce 
> the problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe others 
> can reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where they have 
> encountered this. Here is the reply:
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
> To: siegh...@live.ca
> Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into 
> a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357
> 
> Hello, 
> Thank you for your email. So far I am unable to reproduce this. I went to 
> Applevis.com and select the search field there. 
> I then typed in a search term. I then exited out of the on screen keyboard 
> and double tapped so I was in the search field. 
> I then used the rotor to select characters and flicked up and down. VO called 
> out the characters going forwards and backwards. 
> Can you provide the exact steps you are using to cause this issue? 
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> https://support.apple.com/accessibility
> 
> 
>> On October 26, 2016 at 18:12:52 PM GMT, siegh...@live.ca wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 6S Plus and recently updated to iOS 10.1. I wanted to make 
>> you aware of a bug which prevents me from fully navigating/reviewing text I 
>> type into a search field on any website in Safari. If I type in a search 
>> term and double tap in the search field to move the insertion point to the 
>> beginning and then try to move character by character to review what I typed 
>> Voiceover repeats the entire search term and then tells me the insertion 
>> point is between the first and second position and I am not able to move it 
>> from there.
>> If I double tap again the insertion point moves to the end and I can flick 
>> backwards to what I typed, but Voiceover does not read each letter as it 
>> should, it tells me insertion point between, for example, 10th and 11th 
>> position between "l" and "l". This example of course assumes I typed 
>> something which has "ll" in 10th and 11th position.
>> This bug is rather annoying and I have heard reports from other Voiceover 
>> users that they have encountered the same problem in other apps and other 
>> search fields.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
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Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

2016-10-27 Thread kg7fa2

Hi Richard, Echo Link is an excellent app, and is totally accessible!

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Re: voice over questions

2016-10-27 Thread Shaf Patel

Turning your brightness down to 0 percent will not prevent people from
being able to see your screen. Always use Screen Curtain.

On 10/27/2016 9:22 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:
> Thank you.
> Louise
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Daniel L. Gervais
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voice over questions
> 
> Hi Louise,
> 
> Screen Curtain is a feature that you can toggle with a three finger triple 
> tap.  If you keep your screen brightness at 10% or higher, screen curtain 
> will simply make your screen black so anyone near you can't see your screen.  
> I find that it is simpler just to bring your brightness down to 0% as this 
> will help in saving battery life.
> 
> The second item is toggled by performing a three finger double tap, and does 
> exactly what it says, turns off the speech.  It doesn't turn off VoiceOver, 
> just silences the speech.  You still interact with the device the same way, 
> it's just that you won't hear VoiceOver speak, but you will hear the sounds 
> and clicks.
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> 
> From: Louise Peyton 
> To:   "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
> Date: 2016/10/27 1:52 PM
> Subject:  voice over questions
> 
> Hello:
> When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear "screen courtain on."  How do I get rid of 
> this message?
> Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
> which says "speech off."  Is the "speech off" feature a part of the main 
> screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
> Louise
> 

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Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

2016-10-27 Thread Andy Baracco

There is an app for Echolink, a way that hams can communicate with other hams 
via their phone. You must be licensed, and I think you may have to set echolink 
up on the PC first. You can go to either www.echolink.com  or www.echolink.org 
for more info. Setting up Echolink is on my to do list, as I live in a condo 
and can’t have outdoor antennas.

Andy

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:43 AM
To: 'ViPone list' 
Subject: Ham Radio on an iPhone?
Greetings,

I was talking to a client today who wants to be able to use his iPhone as a Ham 
Radio.

Does anyone know of a good, VoiceOver app that makes this possible?  I’ve never 
heard of this.

 

I will search the app store of course, but if anyone has experience, I’d love 
to hear about it.

 

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Nope, I didn’t change it. The description says that it works on the iPad, so it 
didn’t occur to me.
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll let you know if I find it.
Evan

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

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RE: voice over questions

2016-10-27 Thread Louise Peyton

Thank you.
Louise

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice over questions

Hi Louise,

Screen Curtain is a feature that you can toggle with a three finger triple tap. 
 If you keep your screen brightness at 10% or higher, screen curtain will 
simply make your screen black so anyone near you can't see your screen.  I find 
that it is simpler just to bring your brightness down to 0% as this will help 
in saving battery life.

The second item is toggled by performing a three finger double tap, and does 
exactly what it says, turns off the speech.  It doesn't turn off VoiceOver, 
just silences the speech.  You still interact with the device the same way, 
it's just that you won't hear VoiceOver speak, but you will hear the sounds and 
clicks.

Hope this helps!

From:   Louise Peyton 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/10/27 1:52 PM
Subject:voice over questions

Hello:
When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear "screen courtain on."  How do I get rid of 
this message?
Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
which says "speech off."  Is the "speech off" feature a part of the main 
screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
Louise

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RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?
I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.
HTH,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.
I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.
So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.
But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.
I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.
I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.
I am now more mystified than ever.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks very much.
Evan

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report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

2016-10-27 Thread Donna

I have yet to come across a web page where when using the search field 
VoiceOver reads properly when flicking by character. 

Donna
> 
> Hi!
> 
> This differs from site to site. Google.com uses some kind of combined search 
> field and it is completely unusable. Amazon.com doesn't read at all. I tested 
> on some local Croatian pages and somebody here mentioned Bookshare and 
> something else, I can't remember at this point.
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>  
>  
> 27.10.2016. u 20:03, Sieghard Weitzel je napisao/la:
>> Hi again List,
>> 
>> Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with 
>> reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person 
>> who apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce 
>> the problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe 
>> others can reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where 
>> they have encountered this. Here is the reply:
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
>> To: siegh...@live.ca
>> Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into 
>> a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357
>> 
>> Hello, 
>>  Thank you for your email. So far I am unable to reproduce this. I went to 
>> Applevis.com and select the search field there. 
>> I then typed in a search term. I then exited out of the on screen keyboard 
>> and double tapped so I was in the search field. 
>> I then used the rotor to select characters and flicked up and down. VO 
>> called out the characters going forwards and backwards. 
>> Can you provide the exact steps you are using to cause this issue? 
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> https://support.apple.com/accessibility
>> 
>> 
>> On October 26, 2016 at 18:12:52 PM GMT, siegh...@live.ca wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have an iPhone 6S Plus and recently updated to iOS 10.1. I wanted to make 
>>> you aware of a bug which prevents me from fully navigating/reviewing text I 
>>> type into a search field on any website in Safari. If I type in a search 
>>> term and double tap in the search field to move the insertion point to the 
>>> beginning and then try to move character by character to review what I 
>>> typed Voiceover repeats the entire search term and then tells me the 
>>> insertion point is between the first and second position and I am not able 
>>> to move it from there.
>>> If I double tap again the insertion point moves to the end and I can flick 
>>> backwards to what I typed, but Voiceover does not read each letter as it 
>>> should, it tells me insertion point between, for example, 10th and 11th 
>>> position between "l" and "l". This example of course assumes I typed 
>>> something which has "ll" in 10th and 11th position.
>>> This bug is rather annoying and I have heard reports from other Voiceover 
>>> users that they have encountered the same problem in other apps and other 
>>> search fields.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: voice over questions

Hi,
They can still see it, if on 0%. I have 0% plus curtain. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Daniel L. Gervais  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: voice over questions

>
>
> Hi Louise,
> 
> Screen Curtain is a feature that you can toggle with a three finger triple 
> tap.  If you keep your screen brightness at 10% or higher, screen curtain 
> will simply make your screen black so anyone near you can't see your screen.  
> I find that it is simpler just to bring your brightness down to 0% as this 
> will help in saving battery life.
> 
> The second item is toggled by performing a three finger double tap, and does 
> exactly what it says, turns off the speech.  It doesn't turn off VoiceOver, 
> just silences the speech.  You still interact with the device the same way, 
> it's just that you won't hear VoiceOver speak, but you will hear the sounds 
> and clicks.
> 
 > Hope this helps!
> 
> 
> From: Louise Peyton 
> To:   "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
> Date: 2016/10/27 1:52 PM
> Subject:  voice over questions
> 
> Hello:
> When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear "screen courtain on."  How do I get rid of 
> this message?
> Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
> which says "speech off."  Is the "speech off" feature a part of the main 
> screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
> Louise
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Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email

Hi All,
Works without thread view. Just have a good thousand words in the message body. 

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Re: voice over questions

2016-10-27 Thread Daniel L. Gervais

Hi Louise,

Screen Curtain is a feature that you can toggle with a three finger triple tap. 
 If you keep your screen brightness at 10% or higher, screen curtain will 
simply make your screen black so anyone near you can't see your screen.  I find 
that it is simpler just to bring your brightness down to 0% as this will help 
in saving battery life.

The second item is toggled by performing a three finger double tap, and does 
exactly what it says, turns off the speech.  It doesn't turn off VoiceOver, 
just silences the speech.  You still interact with the device the same way, 
it's just that you won't hear VoiceOver speak, but you will hear the sounds and 
clicks.

Hope this helps!


From:   Louise Peyton 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/10/27 1:52 PM
Subject:voice over questions

Hello:
When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear "screen courtain on."  How do I get rid of 
this message?
Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
which says "speech off."  Is the "speech off" feature a part of the main 
screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
Louise

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Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 651196690

2016-10-27 Thread Donna

Hi Sieghard

I'm using an iPhone 6 with with IOS 10.1. I have thread view turned off. Maybe 
this is why I'm not experiencing the VoiceOver bug that you report having?樂 I 
have replied to messages where several others have replied & I still haven't 
experienced VoiceOver stopping speaking. 

Donna
> 
> Well, it is a fairly minor issue for me, too, but from what I read it is not 
> just isolated as many people have reported this on here. Try to pick a thread 
> with 5 or 6 messages in the conversation and then reply to the last one and 
> see what happens. As you said, maybe it is not an issue for you. Which phone 
> do you have.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 
> 651196690
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> 
> I am not experiencing the bug where VoiceOver stops speaking for a while 
> after replying to an email. Guess it is one of those perplexing isolated bugs 
> that not everyone experiences. 
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I sent in a bug report about the issue with reviewing edit fields on web 
>> pages and so I thought while I am at it I send in another report about the 
>> issue with Voiceover freezing/being unresponsive for a bit after replying to 
>> an email. On my 6S Plus this doesn't happen for long, sometimes maybe just a 
>> few seconds, but with longer threads it can also be longer. Anyhow, below is 
>> the reply I received in which I was informed that they could not reproduce 
>> this and that they had also not received reports from other Voiceover users 
>> about this. I had mentioned that I know this has been reported for at least 
>> a couple of years now and unless everybody on the list just says they have 
>> reported it when they actually haven't done so it would appear that whoever 
>> replied to this message is full of it. I'm sure this has been reported many 
>> times and I can only urge all of you who use email on your iDevices to do so 
>> again and to make the subject and description very clear. Here now that 
>> message I received:
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:01 AM
>> To: siegh...@outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 
>> 651196690
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Thank you for your email. So far I have not been able to reproduce this 
>> issue and we have not other reports of this. 
>> We are unable to offer in depth troubleshooting at this address. 
>> If you are in the US or Canada you may want to consider contacting our 
>> Accessibility Support team via telephone for further assistance.
>> The Accessibility Support number (877- 204-3930) is currently available for 
>> users that live in the United States. Support is available during normal 
>> hours of operation for AppleCare (8am - 8pm Central Time).
>> 
>> This new number is available for accessibility users like yourself to 
>> receive technical support and to report issues you may be encountering. This 
>> email address will still be available for feedback and feature requests as 
>> well.
>> 
>> We also have assistive technology support line is the UK and in Australia.
>> In the UK please call 0800 048 0754. 
>> In Australia please call (61) 1-300-365-083 For technical support outside of 
>> these area, we ask that you please contact AppleCare via the web, telephone 
>> or use the Contact Apple Support link to begin an online support session.
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/support/contact/
>> http://www.apple.com/support/contact/phone_contacts.html
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On October 26, 2016 at 18:17:55 PM GMT, siegh...@outlook.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I once again want to report this although it is extremely frustrating that 
>>> this has not yet been fixed since this problem has existed and has been 
>>> reported since iOS 8 came out in 2014 and after 2 years it still persists.
>>> If I use the "Reply to" function to send a reply to an email Voiceover 
>>> freezes or goes away or whatever it does for anywhere from 10 seconds to a 
>>> minute as soon as I press the "Sent" button. I have had calls that came in 
>>> during this and I was not able to answer them because my phone appeared 
>>> frozen. It seems that the longer the thread/conversation is the longer is 
>>> the time of the crash/freezing of the phone.
>>> I know many others have reported this and I know a few people have switched 
>>> to Outlook now that Outlook is fully accessible and I would really like to 
>>> know if people are working on this or if Apple is simply ignoring this as 
>>> it is

Re: FW: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

2016-10-27 Thread Gordan Radić


  
  
Hi!
This differs from site to site. Google.com uses some kind of
  combined search field and it is completely unusable. Amazon.com
  doesn't read at all. I tested on some local Croatian pages and
  somebody here mentioned Bookshare and something else, I can't
  remember at this point.



  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

27.10.2016. u 20:03, Sieghard Weitzel
  je napisao/la:


  Hi again List,

Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person who apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce the problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe others can reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where they have encountered this. Here is the reply:

-Original Message-
From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
To: siegh...@live.ca
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Hello, 
 Thank you for your email. So far I am unable to reproduce this. I went to Applevis.com and select the search field there. 
I then typed in a search term. I then exited out of the on screen keyboard and double tapped so I was in the search field. 
I then used the rotor to select characters and flicked up and down. VO called out the characters going forwards and backwards. 
Can you provide the exact steps you are using to cause this issue? 

Apple Accessibility

For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
https://support.apple.com/accessibility


On October 26, 2016 at 18:12:52 PM GMT, siegh...@live.ca wrote:


  
Hi,

I have an iPhone 6S Plus and recently updated to iOS 10.1. I wanted to make you aware of a bug which prevents me from fully navigating/reviewing text I type into a search field on any website in Safari. If I type in a search term and double tap in the search field to move the insertion point to the beginning and then try to move character by character to review what I typed Voiceover repeats the entire search term and then tells me the insertion point is between the first and second position and I am not able to move it from there.
If I double tap again the insertion point moves to the end and I can flick backwards to what I typed, but Voiceover does not read each letter as it should, it tells me insertion point between, for example, 10th and 11th position between "l" and "l". This example of course assumes I typed something which has "ll" in 10th and 11th position.
This bug is rather annoying and I have heard reports from other Voiceover users that they have encountered the same problem in other apps and other search fields.

Regards,
Sieghard



  
  



  




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RE: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 651196690

Well, it is a fairly minor issue for me, too, but from what I read it is not 
just isolated as many people have reported this on here. Try to pick a thread 
with 5 or 6 messages in the conversation and then reply to the last one and see 
what happens. As you said, maybe it is not an issue for you. Which phone do you 
have.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 651196690

Hi Sieghard,

I am not experiencing the bug where VoiceOver stops speaking for a while after 
replying to an email. Guess it is one of those perplexing isolated bugs that 
not everyone experiences. 

Donna
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I sent in a bug report about the issue with reviewing edit fields on web 
> pages and so I thought while I am at it I send in another report about the 
> issue with Voiceover freezing/being unresponsive for a bit after replying to 
> an email. On my 6S Plus this doesn't happen for long, sometimes maybe just a 
> few seconds, but with longer threads it can also be longer. Anyhow, below is 
> the reply I received in which I was informed that they could not reproduce 
> this and that they had also not received reports from other Voiceover users 
> about this. I had mentioned that I know this has been reported for at least a 
> couple of years now and unless everybody on the list just says they have 
> reported it when they actually haven't done so it would appear that whoever 
> replied to this message is full of it. I'm sure this has been reported many 
> times and I can only urge all of you who use email on your iDevices to do so 
> again and to make the subject and description very clear. Here now that 
> message I received:
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:01 AM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 
> 651196690
> 
> Hello,
> Thank you for your email. So far I have not been able to reproduce this issue 
> and we have not other reports of this. 
> We are unable to offer in depth troubleshooting at this address. 
> If you are in the US or Canada you may want to consider contacting our 
> Accessibility Support team via telephone for further assistance.
> The Accessibility Support number (877- 204-3930) is currently available for 
> users that live in the United States. Support is available during normal 
> hours of operation for AppleCare (8am - 8pm Central Time).
> 
> This new number is available for accessibility users like yourself to receive 
> technical support and to report issues you may be encountering. This email 
> address will still be available for feedback and feature requests as well.
> 
> We also have assistive technology support line is the UK and in Australia.
> In the UK please call 0800 048 0754. 
> In Australia please call (61) 1-300-365-083 For technical support outside of 
> these area, we ask that you please contact AppleCare via the web, telephone 
> or use the Contact Apple Support link to begin an online support session.
> 
> http://www.apple.com/support/contact/
> http://www.apple.com/support/contact/phone_contacts.html
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
> 
> 
> 
>> On October 26, 2016 at 18:17:55 PM GMT, siegh...@outlook.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I once again want to report this although it is extremely frustrating that 
>> this has not yet been fixed since this problem has existed and has been 
>> reported since iOS 8 came out in 2014 and after 2 years it still persists.
>> If I use the "Reply to" function to send a reply to an email Voiceover 
>> freezes or goes away or whatever it does for anywhere from 10 seconds to a 
>> minute as soon as I press the "Sent" button. I have had calls that came in 
>> during this and I was not able to answer them because my phone appeared 
>> frozen. It seems that the longer the thread/conversation is the longer is 
>> the time of the crash/freezing of the phone.
>> I know many others have reported this and I know a few people have switched 
>> to Outlook now that Outlook is fully accessible and I would really like to 
>> know if people are working on this or if Apple is simply ignoring this as it 
>> is not considered important.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
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Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.
I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.
So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.
But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.
I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.
I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.
I am now more mystified than ever.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks very much.
Evan

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RE: Music on an 8G iPhone

If she wants free music then her best option is an app like Tune In or iHeart 
radio where she can listen to tons of music for free. If she wants to listen to 
specific music and doesn't mind paying $10 a month I would totally recommend 
she gets an Apple music subscription. As long as she is on WiFi or has a data 
connection and if she has a big enough data plan she never has to store a 
single song on her phone. She can also tell SIRI what she wants to listen to 
and, if you want access and share it with her, you culd subscribe to an Apple 
Music family plan for $14.99 and I think up to 4 people can be added to that. 
The $9.99 and $14.99 is what is costs in Canada, maybe it is the same otherwise 
chances are it might even be less in the US since $10 Canadian at the current 
exchange rate is only around $7.50 US. Another way to knock 10, 15 or 20% off 
that subscription cost is to look for discounted iTunes gift cards and put 
enough credit on your account to cover the subscription for a year, e.g. if it 
is $10 a month then buy $120 worth of iTunes gift cards which, if you find a 
20% off deal would only cost $96 in actual cash and then put these on your 
account and unless you buy other stuff this would cover a whole year of Apple 
Music.
There are of course other subscriptions like Spotify, Deezer etc., but for me 
Apple Music is the way to go if you are into Apple devices.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dani Pagador
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:25 AM
To: iPhone for visually impaired 
Subject: Music on an 8G iPhone

Hi, Everyone.
My Mom's got an iPhone with only 8G of storage. She asked about being able to 
listen to music with it.

What are the options I can tell her about? I know about Pandora and Last 
FM--have to learn to use these myself.

But what are her options if she wants to purchase music through iTunes? Can she 
store her music in the Cloud and use either Wifi or her data plan when she 
wants to listen?

Thanks,
Dani

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Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 651196690

2016-10-27 Thread Donna

Hi Sieghard,

I am not experiencing the bug where VoiceOver stops speaking for a while after 
replying to an email. Guess it is one of those perplexing isolated bugs that 
not everyone experiences. 

Donna
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I sent in a bug report about the issue with reviewing edit fields on web 
> pages and so I thought while I am at it I send in another report about the 
> issue with Voiceover freezing/being unresponsive for a bit after replying to 
> an email. On my 6S Plus this doesn't happen for long, sometimes maybe just a 
> few seconds, but with longer threads it can also be longer. Anyhow, below is 
> the reply I received in which I was informed that they could not reproduce 
> this and that they had also not received reports from other Voiceover users 
> about this. I had mentioned that I know this has been reported for at least a 
> couple of years now and unless everybody on the list just says they have 
> reported it when they actually haven't done so it would appear that whoever 
> replied to this message is full of it. I'm sure this has been reported many 
> times and I can only urge all of you who use email on your iDevices to do so 
> again and to make the subject and description very clear. Here now that 
> message I received:
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:01 AM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 
> 651196690
> 
> Hello,
> Thank you for your email. So far I have not been able to reproduce this issue 
> and we have not other reports of this. 
> We are unable to offer in depth troubleshooting at this address. 
> If you are in the US or Canada you may want to consider contacting our 
> Accessibility Support team via telephone for further assistance.
> The Accessibility Support number (877- 204-3930) is currently available for 
> users that live in the United States. Support is available during normal 
> hours of operation for AppleCare (8am - 8pm Central Time).
> 
> This new number is available for accessibility users like yourself to receive 
> technical support and to report issues you may be encountering. This email 
> address will still be available for feedback and feature requests as well.
> 
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>> On October 26, 2016 at 18:17:55 PM GMT, siegh...@outlook.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I once again want to report this although it is extremely frustrating that 
>> this has not yet been fixed since this problem has existed and has been 
>> reported since iOS 8 came out in 2014 and after 2 years it still persists.
>> If I use the "Reply to" function to send a reply to an email Voiceover 
>> freezes or goes away or whatever it does for anywhere from 10 seconds to a 
>> minute as soon as I press the "Sent" button. I have had calls that came in 
>> during this and I was not able to answer them because my phone appeared 
>> frozen. It seems that the longer the thread/conversation is the longer is 
>> the time of the crash/freezing of the phone.
>> I know many others have reported this and I know a few people have switched 
>> to Outlook now that Outlook is fully accessible and I would really like to 
>> know if people are working on this or if Apple is simply ignoring this as it 
>> is not considered important.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
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Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email

Hi Seigherd, 
Hang on, if you call in, will the issue get fixed? Interesting thinking, I 
don't think so. Secondly, the longer the thread, the longer the pause. And, I, 
for one, have sent a report about this last October or so, and they wanted my 
apple logs, but had no PC at the time, so couldn't provide it. And lastly, my 
turn to write about the iPad reading bug focus. I'll forward, too, once I know 
something. 



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Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

2016-10-27 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone

good enough Echolink would be a good start and then we can figure out exactly 
what’' he’s after.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 14:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

I don’t know any more than that.

I will see him tomorrow and find out more.

He just said you could use your iPhone as a Ham Radio.

Thanks,

Richard

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Subject: Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

can you be a bit more specific?  Does he want to control his  radio or use a 
remote base such as the handihams remote base? Echolink will get him on VHF/UHF 
but other than that I am not sure what else is out there that will interface 
VOIP with radio. 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 13:43

To: 'ViPone list' 

Subject: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

Greetings,

I was talking to a client today who wants to be able to use his iPhone as a Ham 
Radio.

Does anyone know of a good, VoiceOver app that makes this possible?  I’ve never 
heard of this.

I will search the app store of course, but if anyone has experience, I’d love 
to hear about it.

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: voice over questions

Hi Louise,
Turning off speech,, is a voice over feature. As for the screen curtain, tap 
the screen 3 times with 3 fingers. 



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To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:52 pm
Subject: voice over questions

>
>
> Hello:
> When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear "screen courtain on."  How do I get rid of 
> this message?
> Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
> which says "speech off."  Is the "speech off" feature a part of the main 
> screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
> Louise
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RE: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

I had a 6S and now I have a 6S Plus and I guess unless somebody has access to 
all four devices (6S/6S Plus and 7/7 Plus) and did a very objective test with a 
variety of material in the same lighting conditions it is probably impossible 
to say if there is a significant difference. Yes, the camera on the 7 and 7 
Plus are improved over the 6S and 6S Plus and the 6S does not have optical 
image stabilization, but I have a very steady hand and a good sense of holding 
the phone straight and in the correct height and I've been getting great 
results with both the 6S and 6S Plus. I've never been able to notice much of a 
difference between these two phones even though, as I said, the 6S Plus does 
have the optical image stabilization. As for speed the 6S Plus starts reading 
very quickly, but of course one would expect this to be even a bit faster with 
the newer phones, but is it faster by half a second, a second, 2 seconds? Even 
if it is 2 or 3 seconds which it probably is not then who really cares. In 
conclusion I would say that how well you learn to use it will make much more of 
a difference. There are a few people on the list who report they just can't get 
good results and I would hazard a guess that somebody who has a problem with it 
will get worse results with a 7 Plus than somebody who is good at it would with 
a 5S or even an iPhone 5.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably accurate and 
lightning fast.
I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am sure happy 
with the results from the 7 plus.

On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning 
> packages to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 
> 7 Plus, I don't know.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
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>> Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader 
>> and other similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
>> Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily 
>> dependent on the phone operator and not the camera?
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RE: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

I don’t know any more than that.
I will see him tomorrow and find out more.
He just said you could use your iPhone as a Ham Radio.

Thanks,
Richard

From: 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

can you be a bit more specific?  Does he want to control his  radio or use a 
remote base such as the handihams remote base? Echolink will get him on VHF/UHF 
but other than that I am not sure what else is out there that will interface 
VOIP with radio.

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 13:43
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

Greetings,
I was talking to a client today who wants to be able to use his iPhone as a Ham 
Radio.
Does anyone know of a good, VoiceOver app that makes this possible?  I’ve never 
heard of this.

I will search the app store of course, but if anyone has experience, I’d love 
to hear about it.

Thanks,
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Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

2016-10-27 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone

can you be a bit more specific?  Does he want to control his  radio or use a 
remote base such as the handihams remote base? Echolink will get him on VHF/UHF 
but other than that I am not sure what else is out there that will interface 
VOIP with radio. 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 13:43
To: 'ViPone list' 
Subject: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

Greetings,

I was talking to a client today who wants to be able to use his iPhone as a Ham 
Radio.

Does anyone know of a good, VoiceOver app that makes this possible?  I’ve never 
heard of this.

I will search the app store of course, but if anyone has experience, I’d love 
to hear about it.

Thanks,

Richard

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RE: voice over questions

2016-10-27 Thread Louise Peyton

Thank you.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice over questions

Hello Louise,

Screen curtain darkens the screen so that no one can look over your shoulder 
and see what you're doing. Triple-tap with three fingers to toggle it on and 
off.

To turn speech on and off, double-tap with three fingers. My guess is that you 
are doing this gesture accidentally as you explore your phone.

Best,
Anna

On Oct 27, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Louise Peyton 
> wrote:

Hello:
When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear “screen courtain on.”  How do I get rid of 
this message?
Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
which says “speech off.”  Is the “speech off” feature a part of the main 
screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
Louise

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FW: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Hi again List,

Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with 
reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person who 
apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce the 
problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe others can 
reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where they have 
encountered this. Here is the reply:

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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
To: siegh...@live.ca
Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a 
search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

Hello, 
 Thank you for your email. So far I am unable to reproduce this. I went to 
Applevis.com and select the search field there. 
I then typed in a search term. I then exited out of the on screen keyboard and 
double tapped so I was in the search field. 
I then used the rotor to select characters and flicked up and down. VO called 
out the characters going forwards and backwards. 
Can you provide the exact steps you are using to cause this issue? 

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On October 26, 2016 at 18:12:52 PM GMT, siegh...@live.ca wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have an iPhone 6S Plus and recently updated to iOS 10.1. I wanted to make 
>you aware of a bug which prevents me from fully navigating/reviewing text I 
>type into a search field on any website in Safari. If I type in a search term 
>and double tap in the search field to move the insertion point to the 
>beginning and then try to move character by character to review what I typed 
>Voiceover repeats the entire search term and then tells me the insertion point 
>is between the first and second position and I am not able to move it from 
>there.
>If I double tap again the insertion point moves to the end and I can flick 
>backwards to what I typed, but Voiceover does not read each letter as it 
>should, it tells me insertion point between, for example, 10th and 11th 
>position between "l" and "l". This example of course assumes I typed something 
>which has "ll" in 10th and 11th position.
>This bug is rather annoying and I have heard reports from other Voiceover 
>users that they have encountered the same problem in other apps and other 
>search fields.
>
>Regards,
>Sieghard
>
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voice over questions

2016-10-27 Thread Louise Peyton

Hello:
When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear "screen courtain on."  How do I get rid of 
this message?
Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
which says "speech off."  Is the "speech off" feature a part of the main 
screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
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Re: voice over questions

Hello Louise,

Screen curtain darkens the screen so that no one can look over your shoulder 
and see what you're doing. Triple-tap with three fingers to toggle it on and 
off.

To turn speech on and off, double-tap with three fingers. My guess is that you 
are doing this gesture accidentally as you explore your phone.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 27, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:
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> Hello:
> When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear “screen courtain on.”  How do I get rid of 
> this message?
> Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
> which says “speech off.”  Is the “speech off” feature a part of the main 
> screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
> Louise
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Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 651196690

Hi List,

I sent in a bug report about the issue with reviewing edit fields on web pages 
and so I thought while I am at it I send in another report about the issue with 
Voiceover freezing/being unresponsive for a bit after replying to an email. On 
my 6S Plus this doesn't happen for long, sometimes maybe just a few seconds, 
but with longer threads it can also be longer. Anyhow, below is the reply I 
received in which I was informed that they could not reproduce this and that 
they had also not received reports from other Voiceover users about this. I had 
mentioned that I know this has been reported for at least a couple of years now 
and unless everybody on the list just says they have reported it when they 
actually haven't done so it would appear that whoever replied to this message 
is full of it. I'm sure this has been reported many times and I can only urge 
all of you who use email on your iDevices to do so again and to make the 
subject and description very clear. Here now that message I received:

-Original Message-
From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:01 AM
To: siegh...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover freezes after replying to an email; Follow-up: 651196690

Hello,
 Thank you for your email. So far I have not been able to reproduce this issue 
and we have not other reports of this. 
We are unable to offer in depth troubleshooting at this address. 
If you are in the US or Canada you may want to consider contacting our 
Accessibility Support team via telephone for further assistance.
The Accessibility Support number (877- 204-3930) is currently available for 
users that live in the United States. Support is available during normal hours 
of operation for AppleCare (8am - 8pm Central Time).

This new number is available for accessibility users like yourself to receive 
technical support and to report issues you may be encountering. This email 
address will still be available for feedback and feature requests as well.

We also have assistive technology support line is the UK and in Australia.
In the UK please call 0800 048 0754. 
In Australia please call (61) 1-300-365-083 For technical support outside of 
these area, we ask that you please contact AppleCare via the web, telephone or 
use the Contact Apple Support link to begin an online support session.

http://www.apple.com/support/contact/
http://www.apple.com/support/contact/phone_contacts.html

Apple Accessibility

For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/

On October 26, 2016 at 18:17:55 PM GMT, siegh...@outlook.com wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I once again want to report this although it is extremely frustrating that 
>this has not yet been fixed since this problem has existed and has been 
>reported since iOS 8 came out in 2014 and after 2 years it still persists.
>If I use the "Reply to" function to send a reply to an email Voiceover freezes 
>or goes away or whatever it does for anywhere from 10 seconds to a minute as 
>soon as I press the "Sent" button. I have had calls that came in during this 
>and I was not able to answer them because my phone appeared frozen. It seems 
>that the longer the thread/conversation is the longer is the time of the 
>crash/freezing of the phone.
>I know many others have reported this and I know a few people have switched to 
>Outlook now that Outlook is fully accessible and I would really like to know 
>if people are working on this or if Apple is simply ignoring this as it is not 
>considered important.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Sieghard
>
>

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Apple launches new ‘TV’ app

2016-10-27 Thread christopher hallsworth


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/10/27/apple-launches-new-tv-app/

Apple launches new ‘TV’ app



Apple on Thursday kicked off its Hello Again event by announcing a new app it’s 
simply calling ‘TV.’ Tim Cook claimed that his team believes it will 
“completely change how you watch TV on your Apple TV as well as your iPhone and 
iPad.”

The app, as rumored, is essentially a super TV guide that surfaces shows and 
movies from all of your apps. “The new TV app is the first place I go when I 
use my Apple TV.” Selecting a title within the TV app kicks you into its 
respective app.



When you install a new app on your Apple TV, it’ll instantly sign you in with 
your cable single-sign on, and it’ll populate Watch Now with content. 
Unfortunately it looks like the rumors were true that Netflix hasn’t agreed to 
be part of the program.

Fan of live sports? All you need to do is tell Siri to “turn on the game.” Siri 
knows which app has the game and takes you straight to the action. You can 
either request a specific game, like “the Cubs game,” or view a list all 
available streaming games.

To be honest, this looks awesome. Can’t wait to try it out when it becomes 
available in December.

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Re: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

Yes, he did a fantastic job; I hope my message didn’t imply the opposite. I was 
only stating my own methods because Lord knows that Monica Jones is not 
perfect. (smile) Clumsily apologizing if I hurt feelings.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

Hi Gordan,

Well done, yes, there is a spelling mistake or two and a couple of places where 
a native english speaker may have expressed it differently. Merv may not know 
that you are not a native english speaker and I think all in all your message 
describes the problem very well and in great detail and Apple Accessibility 
will definitely not have any issue understanding this.

Regards,

Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

I respectfully suggest that anyone who chooses to copy your email would run it 
through a spell checker before submitting it to Apple.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

Hi!

Due to recent bug experienced in Safari browser which was confirmed by some 
members here I've composed a message for Apple Accessibility.

I urge everyone on this list to copy the message bellow as new mail and send it 
to Apple. Here it goes:

Address:

accessibil...@apple.com

Subject:

Voice Over Bug In Edit Fields On Web Pages

Beginning of message:

Hello!

Since iOS 10.1 upgrade Voice Over users are experiencing accessibility issues 
while navigating through text entered in edit fields on web pages. It seems 
Voice Over can't read or move by characters from the beginning of text forward 
and it stucks after second character.

When going backwards from the end of the text everything seem to work 
correctly. It is also confirmed this issue occures in Safari for iOS as well as 
Firefox and Chrome browsers.

Steps to reproduce the bug:

1. With Voice Over on open any web page with the edit field;

2. Enter the phrase "today is a beautiful day" in the field;

3. Double tap to get to the beginning of the text entered;

4. Switch the Rotor to the Characters option;

5. Try to flick down for reading forward character by character;

In some cases, depending on web page you're currently browsing you won't hear 
anything while in other cases You won't get further than first twocharacters 
typed. For example, search field on www.amazon.com is completely silent while 
search field on www.bookshare.org reads first two characters.

This is a very serious issue for Voice Over users. Browsing the web is 
everybodys daily routine including blind or partially sighted users and fixing 
this in the next iOS 10 update is crucial for Voice Over users to be able to 
use their iDevices completely.

Thanks and take care!

End of message.

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Ham Radio on an iPhone?

Greetings,
I was talking to a client today who wants to be able to use his iPhone as a Ham 
Radio.
Does anyone know of a good, VoiceOver app that makes this possible?  I've never 
heard of this.

I will search the app store of course, but if anyone has experience, I'd love 
to hear about it.

Thanks,
Richard

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Re: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

Good advice, I always do this. Even if I’m sure I spelled every word correctly, 
I’ll run it through in case I missed something in the proofing, or if I’m not 
as smart as I thought I was. (grin)

From: Merv Keck 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

I respectfully suggest that anyone who chooses to copy your email would run it 
through a spell checker before submitting it to Apple.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

Hi!

Due to recent bug experienced in Safari browser which was confirmed by some 
members here I've composed a message for Apple Accessibility.

I urge everyone on this list to copy the message bellow as new mail and send it 
to Apple. Here it goes:

Address:

accessibil...@apple.com

Subject:

Voice Over Bug In Edit Fields On Web Pages

Beginning of message:

Hello!

Since iOS 10.1 upgrade Voice Over users are experiencing accessibility issues 
while navigating through text entered in edit fields on web pages. It seems 
Voice Over can't read or move by characters from the beginning of text forward 
and it stucks after second character.

When going backwards from the end of the text everything seem to work 
correctly. It is also confirmed this issue occures in Safari for iOS as well as 
Firefox and Chrome browsers.

Steps to reproduce the bug:

1. With Voice Over on open any web page with the edit field;

2. Enter the phrase "today is a beautiful day" in the field;

3. Double tap to get to the beginning of the text entered;

4. Switch the Rotor to the Characters option;

5. Try to flick down for reading forward character by character;

In some cases, depending on web page you're currently browsing you won't hear 
anything while in other cases You won't get further than first twocharacters 
typed. For example, search field on www.amazon.com is completely silent while 
search field on www.bookshare.org reads first two characters.

This is a very serious issue for Voice Over users. Browsing the web is 
everybodys daily routine including blind or partially sighted users and fixing 
this in the next iOS 10 update is crucial for Voice Over users to be able to 
use their iDevices completely.

Thanks and take care!

End of message.

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Re: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

You composed this message very well, excellent. I haven’t had these issues, but 
I will see what happens when I try the things you’ve mentioned. Then I will 
copy the letter and send it. Well, let me correct that. Even if I don’t see the 
problem, I will send it on behalf of those of you who do.

From: Gordan Radić 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Accessibility Report - Safari (and other) Edit Fields On Web Pages

Hi!

Due to recent bug experienced in Safari browser which was confirmed by some 
members here I've composed a message for Apple Accessibility.

I urge everyone on this list to copy the message bellow as new mail and send it 
to Apple. Here it goes:

Address:

accessibil...@apple.com

Subject:

Voice Over Bug In Edit Fields On Web Pages

Beginning of message:

Hello!

Since iOS 10.1 upgrade Voice Over users are experiencing accessibility issues 
while navigating through text entered in edit fields on web pages. It seems 
Voice Over can't read or move by characters from the beginning of text forward 
and it stucks after second character.

When going backwards from the end of the text everything seem to work 
correctly. It is also confirmed this issue occures in Safari for iOS as well as 
Firefox and Chrome browsers.

Steps to reproduce the bug:

1. With Voice Over on open any web page with the edit field;

2. Enter the phrase "today is a beautiful day" in the field;

3. Double tap to get to the beginning of the text entered;

4. Switch the Rotor to the Characters option;

5. Try to flick down for reading forward character by character;

In some cases, depending on web page you're currently browsing you won't hear 
anything while in other cases You won't get further than first twocharacters 
typed. For example, search field on www.amazon.com is completely silent while 
search field on www.bookshare.org reads first two characters.

This is a very serious issue for Voice Over users. Browsing the web is 
everybodys daily routine including blind or partially sighted users and fixing 
this in the next iOS 10 update is crucial for Voice Over users to be able to 
use their iDevices completely.

Thanks and take care!

End of message.

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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

Thanks. That's pretty amazing, considering how huge the Kurzweil Reading 
Machine was when I was at university in the early 1990s.

Evan

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Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

Hi,

KNFB Reader processes the images on your device, so you don't need an 
Internet connection to use it.

Best,
Anna

On Oct 27, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

I have an iPad Mini. Do I need an Internet connection to run that, or does 
it do the OCR without it?

Evan

-Original Message- From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably
accurate and lightning fast.
I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am
sure happy with the results from the 7 plus.

On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Paul,

I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning 
packages

to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I
don't know.

Best,
Anna

On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:

Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and
other similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily dependent
on the phone operator and not the camera?

Thanks.

Paul Ferrara

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Re: edit field problem in 10.1

Wow! I was able to enter mine just fine. That's kind of scary.

-Original Message- 
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I had a similar problem when setting up my new iPhone 7. I was
prompted for the passcode but was unable to enter it. Fortunately, my
sighted husband was available and was able to enter the numbers I
dictated to him. I haven't seen the absence of a keyboard since, but I
agree there is a definite problem. I thought it was the iPhone 7, but
it sounds like it may be iOS10.

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I upgraded my iPhone 6 from IOS 10.0 to 10.1 and got the message that
the software installation was successful. However, when asked to enter
my password, the letters were not present.  This was also true when I
was asked for a pass code. I selected the 4 digit pass code, but no
keyboard was present. Also, although I was told that quick nav was off,
quick nav came on immediately when I moved my finger around the
keyboard.  Just so there is no misunderstanding, I am talking about the
keyboard on the phone, not a blue tooth keyboard.

I subsequently opened messages with the intent of creating and sending a
text message.  The result was the same. This was also true when I opened
the uber app and attempted to enter a destination.

I then rebooted the iPhone 6, but the problem was still present.  I have
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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

Hi,

KNFB Reader processes the images on your device, so you don't need an Internet 
connection to use it.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 27, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> I have an iPad Mini. Do I need an Internet connection to run that, or does it 
> do the OCR without it?
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus
> 
> On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably
> accurate and lightning fast.
> I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am
> sure happy with the results from the 7 plus.
> 
> On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning packages
>> to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I
>> don't know.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and
>>> other similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
>>> Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily dependent
>>> on the phone operator and not the camera?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Paul Ferrara
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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

I have an iPad Mini. Do I need an Internet connection to run that, or does 
it do the OCR without it?

Evan

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably
accurate and lightning fast.
I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am
sure happy with the results from the 7 plus.

On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Paul,

I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning 
packages

to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I
don't know.

Best,
Anna

On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:

Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and
other similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily dependent
on the phone operator and not the camera?

Thanks.

Paul Ferrara

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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

2016-10-27 Thread Jim Fettgather

On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably
accurate and lightning fast.
I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am
sure happy with the results from the 7 plus.

On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning packages
> to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I
> don't know.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and
>> other similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
>> Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily dependent
>> on the phone operator and not the camera?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Paul Ferrara
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Music on an 8G iPhone

2016-10-27 Thread Dani Pagador

Hi, Everyone.
My Mom's got an iPhone with only 8G of storage. She asked about being
able to listen to music with it.

What are the options I can tell her about? I know about Pandora and
Last FM--have to learn to use these myself.

But what are her options if she wants to purchase music through
iTunes? Can she store her music in the Cloud and use either Wifi or
her data plan when she wants to listen?

Thanks,
Dani

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Re: getting new phones, have a question about restoring a backup

Great, is there anything in the store they could do that causes problems?
When we get the phone, turn on voiceover, do nothing else, take it and back it 
up?

Paul

From: Woody Anna Dresner 
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Subject: Re: getting new phones, have a question about restoring a backup

Hi Paul,

If you have an Apple Watch unpair it from your phone before you back up your 
phone. This will ensure that all watch data is backed up.

Then connect your phone to your computer and choose Transfer Purchases to make 
sure all your purchases are on your computer.

Now do an encrypted backup so you get your passwords, health data, and Homekit 
data if you use Homekit included in your backup. 

When you set up your new phone, choose to restore from iTunes. Connect your 
phone to your computer when prompted, and choose the most recent backup, which 
should be selected by default. That should do it. 

Best,
Anna

  On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:

  All, we are eligible for the AT Next Plan so we’re going to do that today.
  I’m quite comfortable backing up the phone to iTunes. The question is, when 
we got our last new phones, we had difficulties when restoring the old phone’s 
backup to the new phone.

  What steps do we take once we get the phones, and what steps do we avoid.

  Also just to be safe, are there any things we need to remember to do when 
backing up the phones?
  It seems that not all stuff is automatically stored, new purchases, etc. even 
though the computer is trusted. Is there an easy setting to check to make sure 
all apps are backed up as well as music.

  This is the one and only drawback to upgrading.

  Thanks all.

  Paul Ferrara

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Then connect your phone to your computer and choose Transfer Purchases to make 
sure all your purchases are on your computer.

Now do an encrypted backup so you get your passwords, health data, and Homekit 
data if you use Homekit included in your backup. 

When you set up your new phone, choose to restore from iTunes. Connect your 
phone to your computer when prompted, and choose the most recent backup, which 
should be selected by default. That should do it.

Best,
Anna

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
> 
> All, we are eligible for the AT Next Plan so we’re going to do that today.
> I’m quite comfortable backing up the phone to iTunes. The question is, when 
> we got our last new phones, we had difficulties when restoring the old 
> phone’s backup to the new phone.
>  
> What steps do we take once we get the phones, and what steps do we avoid.
>  
> Also just to be safe, are there any things we need to remember to do when 
> backing up the phones?
> It seems that not all stuff is automatically stored, new purchases, etc. even 
> though the computer is trusted. Is there an easy setting to check to make 
> sure all apps are backed up as well as music.
>  
> This is the one and only drawback to upgrading.
>  
> Thanks all.
>  
> Paul Ferrara
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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

Hi Paul,

I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning packages to 
see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I don't know.

Best,
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> Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and other 
> similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
> Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily dependent on 
> the phone operator and not the camera?
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first questions with apple watch 2

2016-10-27 Thread William Windels

He all,
I have 2 days me apple watch 2 and after listening to some podcasts, I have 
some questions….
1: while my watch is on my left arm, and I am doing the normal things, (perhaps 
my clothesperhaps  are touching my watch),  the watch speaks without asking.
Is this normal because the watch is locked?
One of the things to have a apple watch is that I can listen to the time 
silently.
2; to undo the waterlock-feature, and my digital cron is set to use with 
voiceover, it seems I can’t unlock the waterlock feature
The solution I found was to set off voiceover an on again.
Is this how it should work?

Thx for any answer.

kind regards,
William Windels

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KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and other 
similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily dependent on the 
phone operator and not the camera?

Thanks.

Paul Ferrara

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