Re: Bluetooth keyboards for iPads

[Mary Otten]

Apple does make keyboard cases and keyboards for the larger iPads, but not for 
the mini. Unfortunately.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I got my wife, who's sighted, an 11 inch iPad for Christmas. She bought 
> herself a keyboard case, which seems like a pretty nice one to me. I don't 
> know the brand, and she's asleep right now, but I can find that out in the 
> morning. I think Apple also makes it's own keyboard case for the iPads.
> 
> With the VoiceOver short cut keys, you can basically use the keyboard to 
> perform any gesture you can perform with VoiceOver, so once you master those 
> short cut keys, you pretty much never have to touch the screen again. Richard 
> Turner has some nice documentation on these shortcut keys on his web page. 
> You can also get to them by going into the VoiceOver settings. Although I 
> don't have the shortcut keys all down yet myself, I do use my iPhone with the 
> K-380 bluetooth keyboard, and I can do quite a bit before I get stuck and 
> reach for the screen.
> 
> --
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
> Stimmel
> Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 2:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bluetooth keyboards for iPads
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I am possibly getting an iPad for my birthday. Although, I am not 100 percent 
> sure about this. I have wanted one for a while now. But I can do most things 
> I want to do, on my phone. Plus, I don't really know how having one might 
> help me.
> 
> However, I certainly will make the best use of one, if it is something I get 
> for my birthday.
> 
> 
> With all that said, does anyone know if they make bluetooth keyboards, 
> that fit over an iPad?
> 
> I guess that would likely be more of a keyboard case?
> 
> 
> I know years ago, they used to make something like this. As when I had 
> an iPad Mini, for a short time, I had one of those.
> 
> 
> My other question is this.
> 
> If you can use a bluetooth, keyboard case with an iPad, are there 
> commands you can use, so that you aren't always having to use the screen?
> 
> 
> I think my hesitation with having an iPad, is that I know how slow I am, 
> when it comes to a touch screen. I can do quite a bit with my phone. And 
> I use it all the time. But when it comes to typing on it, I am rather 
> slow at it. No amount of practice over the years, has really changed 
> this. So I know it will be this way for me, if I am trying to use an 
> iPad. As often as I can, I use my bluetooth keyboard with my phone, to 
> type. Or I dictate.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts, or suggestions would be much appreciated. I would likely 
> be getting an iPad Mini. As this is what I have talked about wanting, in 
> the past.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: Bluetooth keyboards for iPads

[Christopher Chaltain]

I got my wife, who's sighted, an 11 inch iPad for Christmas. She bought herself 
a keyboard case, which seems like a pretty nice one to me. I don't know the 
brand, and she's asleep right now, but I can find that out in the morning. I 
think Apple also makes it's own keyboard case for the iPads.

With the VoiceOver short cut keys, you can basically use the keyboard to 
perform any gesture you can perform with VoiceOver, so once you master those 
short cut keys, you pretty much never have to touch the screen again. Richard 
Turner has some nice documentation on these shortcut keys on his web page. You 
can also get to them by going into the VoiceOver settings. Although I don't 
have the shortcut keys all down yet myself, I do use my iPhone with the K-380 
bluetooth keyboard, and I can do quite a bit before I get stuck and reach for 
the screen.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth keyboards for iPads

Hello everyone,


I am possibly getting an iPad for my birthday. Although, I am not 100 percent 
sure about this. I have wanted one for a while now. But I can do most things I 
want to do, on my phone. Plus, I don't really know how having one might help me.

However, I certainly will make the best use of one, if it is something I get 
for my birthday.


With all that said, does anyone know if they make bluetooth keyboards, 
that fit over an iPad?

I guess that would likely be more of a keyboard case?


I know years ago, they used to make something like this. As when I had 
an iPad Mini, for a short time, I had one of those.


My other question is this.

If you can use a bluetooth, keyboard case with an iPad, are there 
commands you can use, so that you aren't always having to use the screen?


I think my hesitation with having an iPad, is that I know how slow I am, 
when it comes to a touch screen. I can do quite a bit with my phone. And 
I use it all the time. But when it comes to typing on it, I am rather 
slow at it. No amount of practice over the years, has really changed 
this. So I know it will be this way for me, if I am trying to use an 
iPad. As often as I can, I use my bluetooth keyboard with my phone, to 
type. Or I dictate.


Any thoughts, or suggestions would be much appreciated. I would likely 
be getting an iPad Mini. As this is what I have talked about wanting, in 
the past.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Bluetooth keyboards for iPads

[Mary Otten]

Hi Terry,
I recently purchased an iPad mini, and I bought a keyboard to go with it. I 
sent the keyboard back. It was the sort you described, with a keyboard and then 
the iPad fits in the top. I had a few problems with the keyboard. Number one 
was the large bezel around the keyboard, which meant that the  space barwas not 
in a good position for me. Number two was the small size of the keyboard. That 
is because it’s an iPad mini, so of course the keyboard isn’t anything close to 
full size. I’ve been typing for 50 years, make that closer to 60. I learned on 
an old manual typewriter and typed on those for years. all these little dinky 
keyboards with their lousy key travel etc. are not my idea of a good time. You 
may have better luck of course. Or you could have a separate keyboard that’s 
not a case, and then you’ll have more choices. There are not very many cases 
made with a keyboard in them for the mini. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I am possibly getting an iPad for my birthday. Although, I am not 100 percent 
> sure about this. I have wanted one for a while now. But I can do most things 
> I want to do, on my phone. Plus, I don't really know how having one might 
> help me.
> 
> However, I certainly will make the best use of one, if it is something I get 
> for my birthday.
> 
> 
> With all that said, does anyone know if they make bluetooth keyboards, that 
> fit over an iPad?
> 
> I guess that would likely be more of a keyboard case?
> 
> 
> I know years ago, they used to make something like this. As when I had an 
> iPad Mini, for a short time, I had one of those.
> 
> 
> My other question is this.
> 
> If you can use a bluetooth, keyboard case with an iPad, are there commands 
> you can use, so that you aren't always having to use the screen?
> 
> 
> I think my hesitation with having an iPad, is that I know how slow I am, when 
> it comes to a touch screen. I can do quite a bit with my phone. And I use it 
> all the time. But when it comes to typing on it, I am rather slow at it. No 
> amount of practice over the years, has really changed this. So I know it will 
> be this way for me, if I am trying to use an iPad. As often as I can, I use 
> my bluetooth keyboard with my phone, to type. Or I dictate.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts, or suggestions would be much appreciated. I would likely be 
> getting an iPad Mini. As this is what I have talked about wanting, in the 
> past.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Bluetooth keyboards for iPads

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I am possibly getting an iPad for my birthday. Although, I am not 100 
percent sure about this. I have wanted one for a while now. But I can do 
most things I want to do, on my phone. Plus, I don't really know how 
having one might help me.


However, I certainly will make the best use of one, if it is something I 
get for my birthday.



With all that said, does anyone know if they make bluetooth keyboards, 
that fit over an iPad?


I guess that would likely be more of a keyboard case?


I know years ago, they used to make something like this. As when I had 
an iPad Mini, for a short time, I had one of those.



My other question is this.

If you can use a bluetooth, keyboard case with an iPad, are there 
commands you can use, so that you aren't always having to use the screen?



I think my hesitation with having an iPad, is that I know how slow I am, 
when it comes to a touch screen. I can do quite a bit with my phone. And 
I use it all the time. But when it comes to typing on it, I am rather 
slow at it. No amount of practice over the years, has really changed 
this. So I know it will be this way for me, if I am trying to use an 
iPad. As often as I can, I use my bluetooth keyboard with my phone, to 
type. Or I dictate.



Any thoughts, or suggestions would be much appreciated. I would likely 
be getting an iPad Mini. As this is what I have talked about wanting, in 
the past.



Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[Esther Levegnale]

wow, I have been having the same problem. Now I know what to do. Thanks so 
much. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Mar 19, 2022, at 5:20 PM, whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi People,
>  
> Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
> what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
> messages the options aren’t there to select delete.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Ward
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RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Depending on the screen reader, if you tab to the link, then bring up the 
context menu with shift+f10 or the applications key, there should be a save 
target as, or save link as option.

 

At least, with Windows that is the way to do it.

 

Though, using Microsoft Ebge it seems that when I hit enter on a link to a 
file, it downloads it instead of opening it.  Probably some setting I changed 
along the way that I don’t remember.

 

After all, I’m another old goat, 😊.

 

 

Richard

 

 

My web site;  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
whdud...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Richard,

 

How do you download the key strokes guide on your site? 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

O, in messages, be sure and do not hit return for a blank line, the return key 
defaults to sending the message.

If you want a hard return in your message, press options+enter.

 

Enjoy,

 

 

Richard

 

 

My web site;  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
whdud...@gmail.com <mailto:whdud...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Thanks Richard,

 

Seems to be different in messages. Been a while since this old goat has played 
around with the Bluetooth keyboard. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:20 PM, whdud...@gmail.com <mailto:whdud...@gmail.com>  
wrote:



Hi People,

 

Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
messages the options aren’t there to select delete. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

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RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[whdudley]

Richard,

 

How do you download the key strokes guide on your site? 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

O, in messages, be sure and do not hit return for a blank line, the return key 
defaults to sending the message.

If you want a hard return in your message, press options+enter.

 

Enjoy,

 

 

Richard

 

 

My web site;  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Thanks Richard,

 

Seems to be different in messages. Been a while since this old goat has played 
around with the Bluetooth keyboard. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

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Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.

 

Richard

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can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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Hi People,

 

Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
messages the options aren’t there to select delete. 

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

O, in messages, be sure and do not hit return for a blank line, the return key 
defaults to sending the message.

If you want a hard return in your message, press options+enter.

 

Enjoy,

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Thanks Richard,

 

Seems to be different in messages. Been a while since this old goat has played 
around with the Bluetooth keyboard. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
messages the options aren’t there to select delete. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

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RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[whdudley]

Thanks Richard,

 

Seems to be different in messages. Been a while since this old goat has played 
around with the Bluetooth keyboard. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





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Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
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Thanks,

 

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Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.


Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:20 PM, whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi People,
>  
> Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
> what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
> messages the options aren’t there to select delete.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Ward
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Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[whdudley]

Hi People,

 

Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in
messages the options aren't there to select delete. 

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Bluetooth keyboards with stiffer keys

[Christopher Chaltain]

I have a Logitech K-380, and I find the keys to be sticky enough. I’d say 
they’re a bit stiffer then other Bluetooth keyboards I’ve tried. My desktop 
keyboard is a mechanical keyboard from Das, so I do prefer clickity keys, and 
although the K-380 doesn’t have mechanical switches, I do find it has a nice 
feel for a membrane Bluetooth keyboard. I hope this helps and others weigh in 
with their opinions!

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 12:40 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: bluetooth keyboards with stiffer keys

 

I am possibly in the market for a new BT keyboard.  I would really like to find 
one with somewhat stiffer keys though.  I find that all the BT keyboards I have 
tried so far have very soft keys and it is too easy to accidentally press the 
keys.

 

I haven't followed the discussion of the Logitech keyboards in the past so I am 
wondering if these have stiffer keys?  Can any who uses one tell me?

 

Do any of you have other ideas for keyboards with keys that take a bit more 
pressure to engage?

 

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bluetooth keyboards with stiffer keys

[Dan]

  
  
I am possibly in the market for a new BT
keyboard.  I would really like to find one with somewhat stiffer
keys though.  I find that all the BT keyboards I have tried so
far have very soft keys and it is too easy to accidentally press
the keys.

  
I haven't followed the discussion of the
Logitech keyboards in the past so I am wondering if these have
stiffer keys?  Can any who uses one tell me?

  
Do any of you have other ideas for
keyboards with keys that take a bit more pressure to engage?

Thanks.

  


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Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Since this isn't for me, all I can say is what my client said.
He prefers the ergonomic keyboard for two reasons, he has very large hands, and 
has some issues with carpal tunnel.
He will settle for the k380, but he has to type far slower, and take frequent 
breaks.




Richard
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On Jun 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Richard,

Yeah sorry not sure about the urg keyboard with Bluetooth,

However   what would be wrong other than not ergonomic with the K380 or similar 
bt keyboard which would also be light to carry

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Thanks for the replies.
Since they want to use it with both an iPhone and an iPad 7, wired is not ideal.
There may be a Surface keyboard that is bluetooth that could work, at three 
times the price of other non-ergonomic keyboards, but he'll probably just deal 
with a standard keyboard.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 1:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Richard

I’m pretty sure that Microsoft still have their urg keyboards out there 
somewhere.

And I thought Logitech had one also,

I’m not sure about the Bluetooth side of things but wired wouldn’t be a silly 
idea for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


Richard
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RE: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

Yeah sorry not sure about the urg keyboard with Bluetooth,

However   what would be wrong other than not ergonomic with the K380 or similar 
bt keyboard which would also be light to carry

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Thanks for the replies.
Since they want to use it with both an iPhone and an iPad 7, wired is not ideal.
There may be a Surface keyboard that is bluetooth that could work, at three 
times the price of other non-ergonomic keyboards, but he'll probably just deal 
with a standard keyboard.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 1:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Richard

I’m pretty sure that Microsoft still have their urg keyboards out there 
somewhere.

And I thought Logitech had one also,

I’m not sure about the Bluetooth side of things but wired wouldn’t be a silly 
idea for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


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Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Thanks for the replies.
Since they want to use it with both an iPhone and an iPad 7, wired is not ideal.
There may be a Surface keyboard that is bluetooth that could work, at three 
times the price of other non-ergonomic keyboards, but he'll probably just deal 
with a standard keyboard.




Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 18, 2020, at 1:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Richard

I’m pretty sure that Microsoft still have their urg keyboards out there 
somewhere.

And I thought Logitech had one also,

I’m not sure about the Bluetooth side of things but wired wouldn’t be a silly 
idea for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


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RE: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard

I’m pretty sure that Microsoft still have their urg keyboards out there 
somewhere.

And I thought Logitech had one also,

I’m not sure about the Bluetooth side of things but wired wouldn’t be a silly 
idea for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


Richard
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Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Gadget Girl]

Hi there!

I have an 'old school', Brand New, still in the manufacturer's box, full-size 
ergonomic keyboard by Microsoft.  I purchased it in the Win 32 USB, Windows 
XP/Mac era.  Keyboard has never been used.  Only recently opened to examine 
contents inside the box since never opened after purchase.  Just never got to 
it.  Box in excellent, Like-New condition.  Still wrapped in box as Microsoft 
left it.  Getting Started booklet and software included.  No missing parts.  
From clean, dry climate-controlled storage.  Non-Smoking/Pet-Free environment.

Unsure if Keyboard speaks or can work with VoiceOver since a Copyright on the 
box reads, 2005 Microsoft Corp.  Also unsure if Keyboard offers Bluetooth, as 
Keyboard uses a wire to plug in, but at least, that could be another option for 
your Client.

Now cleaning out Office closet which has Brand New & Lightly Enjoyed 'Blasts 
from the Past'!  This is the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 with 
Advanced Ergonomic Desighn.  I will be posting this item on the BlindAds list.  
Thanks. 

Best regards,
Anita K.



> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
> I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on 
> his Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
> iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
> I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.
>  
> iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are 
> a touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is 
> where the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
> Not impressed.
> normal
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hello,
Hope you  are  doing well and staying healthy.  ,
I just got a keyboard that is pretty ergonomic for me. It comes with an iPad 
case that is made for the iPad 9.7 inch screen.
I got it on Amazon for about $50. The case of self rotates 360° so that you can 
use it as a tablet.

iPad Keyboard Case 9.7 for iPad... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084ZS6NGG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

They only have it in two colors, black and another one that I can’t recall.
It has a backlit keyboard which means that it can light up in the dark.
I have small hands so the keys are pretty big in nicely spaced out for me. so 
really, it is like a little petite laptop I can just take with me anywhere 
rather than lugging my MacBook Pro with other accessories on  a longer commute 
because it eventually takes a toll on my back after a while, especially when 
you stand waiting for the bus or subway for a long time. I worry less and feel 
safer  on the longer commute when taking my iPad  then I do when I take my 
laptop especially if I decide to eventually  go  to the city and come home in 
the evening for meetings and other activities in the future after this 
pandemic. Any questions about the keyboard, please feel free to reach out.
Thank you.
 

Priscilla



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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
> I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on 
> his Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
> iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
> I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.
>  
> iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are 
> a touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is 
> where the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
> Not impressed.
> normal
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


Richard
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bluetooth keyboards (Logitech G613 Lightspeed mechanical gaming keyboard)

[territek]

Hello all,

Received my keyboard today from Amazon. Got to love that Amazon delivery!
The keyboard is working fine. Just an important note for others who are
interested, this model has a three inch depth wrist rest that is part of the
molded board. This creates a 3_+ inch space from the front edge of the
keyboard and the spacebar. So if you use a Braille display as I do, be
warned it takes some getting use too.

Best,

Terri

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RE: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Robert Wright]

I just did. I reported that the shift key did not work while typing messages.

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Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

I can also confirm this, hopefully everybody is reporting this to WhatsApp as a 
bug.

From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

Hi all 

I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
useless!! 

Eleanor 
Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the percent 
sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
 escribió:
 
I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
 
I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
 
The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
issues.
 
 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Christina]

Also, I don’t think the control key works either in WhatsApp because I tried 
the control plus spacebar to pull up the onscreen keyboard so i could try 
inserting punctuation that way since the shift key doesn’t work, but it didn’t 
work. I did report this to WhatsApp and they responded a few days ago saying 
that they escalated it to the developers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I can also confirm this, hopefully everybody is reporting this to WhatsApp as 
> a bug.
>  
> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 3:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out
>  
> Hi all 
>  
> I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
> bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
> useless!! 
>  
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
> type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the 
> percent sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> 
> El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
> iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
>  
> I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
>  
> The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
> software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
> Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle 
> and now with iOS 13.1.1.
> I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had 
> any issues.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>  
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RE: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I can also confirm this, hopefully everybody is reporting this to WhatsApp as a 
bug.

From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

Hi all

I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
useless!!

Eleanor
Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the percent 
sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
 escribió:

I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.

I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?

The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
issues.


Richard

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RE: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Richard Turner]

As of today, the app store shows it was updated 1 week ago.  That would be 
before iOS 13.1.1 came out.
I looked at their web site.
To contact them, they say to go to:
Open WhatsApp, settings, help, contact us.
That way you are contacting them from your phone/iPad.

I think this will be the only way to hope to get a solution for those using 
WhatsApp.


Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

This clearly sounds like it is limited to WhatsApp, because every single person 
is citing the same app. Sounds like time for y’all to write  WhatsApp and get 
them to fix whatever is broken.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 28, 2019, at 3:09 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi all

I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
useless!!

Eleanor
Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the percent 
sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.

I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?

The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
issues.


Richard

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Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Mary Otten]

This clearly sounds like it is limited to WhatsApp, because every single person 
is citing the same app. Sounds like time for y’all to write  WhatsApp and get 
them to fix whatever is broken.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 3:09 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all 
> 
> I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
> bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
> useless!! 
> 
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it 
>> will type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the 
>> percent sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>>> El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
>>>  escribió:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under 
>>> the iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
>>>  
>>> I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
>>>  
>>> The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
>>> software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
>>> Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle 
>>> and now with iOS 13.1.1.
>>> I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had 
>>> any issues.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>>  
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Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi all 

I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
useless!! 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
> type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the 
> percent sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
>> El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under 
>> the iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
>>  
>> I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
>>  
>> The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
>> software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
>> Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle 
>> and now with iOS 13.1.1.
>> I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had 
>> any issues.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> 🖖 Live long and prosper
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Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Gerardo Corripio]

Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the percent 
sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
> iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
>  
> I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
>  
> The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
> software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
> Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle 
> and now with iOS 13.1.1.
> I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had 
> any issues.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
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>  
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RE: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Richard Turner]

If just one app, the app is the problem.

Glad it isn’t wide spread.


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Leung
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:51 AM
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Happen to both shift keys and with different keyboards. It only occurs in 1 app.


Blessing, Danny



On 28 Sep 2019, at 1:34 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If it is only in that one place, then I’d suspect an app issue.
If it happens other places, then that might be a keyboard issue.

Is it just one shift key, or both?

I’ve had no issues with the shift keys anywhere, but I don’t use that app.


Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Danny 
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out


Hi Richard,

I have problem using the shift key within the WhatsApp app. Is it IOS issue or 
problem in the app.

Blessing,
Danny




On 28 Sep 2019, at 12:26 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.

I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?

The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
issues.


Richard

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Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Danny Leung]

Happen to both shift keys and with different keyboards. It only occurs in 1 
app. 



Blessing, Danny


> On 28 Sep 2019, at 1:34 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 


If it is only in that one place, then I’d suspect an app issue.
If it happens other places, then that might be a keyboard issue.
 
Is it just one shift key, or both?
 
I’ve had no issues with the shift keys anywhere, but I don’t use that app.
 
 
Richard
 
🖖 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Leung
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out
 
 
Hi Richard,
 
I have problem using the shift key within the WhatsApp app. Is it IOS issue or 
problem in the app. 

 
Blessing,
Danny
 


On 28 Sep 2019, at 12:26 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
 
I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
 
The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
issues.
 
 
Richard
 
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RE: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Richard Turner]

If it is only in that one place, then I’d suspect an app issue.
If it happens other places, then that might be a keyboard issue.

Is it just one shift key, or both?

I’ve had no issues with the shift keys anywhere, but I don’t use that app.


Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Leung
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out


Hi Richard,

I have problem using the shift key within the WhatsApp app. Is it IOS issue or 
problem in the app.

Blessing,
Danny



On 28 Sep 2019, at 12:26 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.

I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?

The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
issues.


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


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Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Danny Leung]

Hi Richard,

I have problem using the shift key within the WhatsApp app. Is it IOS issue or 
problem in the app. 


Blessing,
Danny


> On 28 Sep 2019, at 12:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 


I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
 
I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
 
The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
issues.
 
 
Richard
 
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Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Richard Turner]

I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.

I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?

The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
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Bose QC3 and 2 bluetooth keyboards for sale

[KliphnShari Miller]

>> I have been given permision to post these things for sale.  Please only 
>> reply to me off list
>> 
shari...@outlook.com

>> Things for sale.  Bose QuietComfort 35 (Series II) Wireless Headphones, 
>> Noise Cancelling, with Alexa voice control - Black
>> 
>> You get 20 hours of battery life, alexa enabled, noise canseling and more.  
>> This model retails at $349.99 cent.  Bought them , but I got the power beats 
>> pro and no longer uses them.  Comes with charging cable.
>> 
>> Asking 300 or best offer, will ship to the 48 land states.  This price 
>> includes shipping.  Here is the link to read more about them.
>> 
>> Bose QuietComfort 35 II Wireless Bluetooth Headphones, Noise-Cancelling, 
>> with Alexa voice control, enabled with Bose AR – Black 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756CYWWD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gdu3Cb0GPQF0P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Next we have the MultiSync Premium Slim Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard for Mac 
>> and iOS
>> 
>> This keyboard pairs with 4 devices at the same time, can be used with mac 
>> OS, IOS, or windows.  Has a rechargible battery, says lasts up to 6 months 
>> between charges.  Comes in original packaging, with users manual, and 
>> charging cable.  Asking 60 bucks or best offer. Was barely used, used it 
>> until the case for my iPadPro was ready. Retails at 72 bucks, asking for 60 
>> bucks or best offer.  Here is the link if you want to know more about it.
>> 
>> MultiSync Premium Slim Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard for Mac and iOS 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZ2TKIR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_7ITQ36FGPVwxR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Last but not least,   Apple Magic Keyboard (Wireless, Rechargable) (US 
>> English) - Silver it’s by apple so a little more spendy. Retails at $99.99 
>> only pairs with one device, has a rechargible battery, that lasts up to 6 
>> months between charges, uses the same charging cable as iPhones and ipads.  
>> Comes in original packaging, with lightning charging cable.  Was only used 
>> to setup my kids macmini, after that went back in the box.  Asking 85 bucks 
>> or best offer.  You can reach me at
>> 
>> 
>> shari...@outlook.com
>> 
>> Note the spelling, it’s a little different.
>> 
>> For all above items will ship to the 48 land states.  Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone X
> 

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RE: bluetooth keyboards

[Robert Wright]

I use the Omoton. It doesn’t have a numpad but it is 
The dimensions are 11 15/16 x 5 inches
The keys are standard size


It has the standard keys and the top row above the numbers are 
Home, brightness down, brightness up, search, photo ? previous track, 
play/pause, next track, mute, volume down, volume up virtual keyboard 
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bluetooth keyboards

Hi folks,
I followed So many discussions of Bluetooth keyboards on this list but I am 
still unable to decide which Bluetooth keyboard to get.
What I really want to get is a Bluetooth keyboard that is small, possibly 
foldable, yet I want it to have either a numeric keypad or at least a row of 
number keys on the top.  I also want it to have an enter key and make sure that 
I can pair it to my iPhone and iPad without sighted help.
Which keyboard meets these needs in your opinions?  I would love answers from 
people who actually used the board they suggest and know for sure that what 
they describe is something that they had firsthand experience with.
I appreciate your suggestions

Cris 
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bluetooth keyboards

[Cris Ali]

Hi folks,
I followed So many discussions of Bluetooth keyboards on this list but I am 
still unable to decide which Bluetooth keyboard to get.
What I really want to get is a Bluetooth keyboard that is small, possibly 
foldable, yet I want it to have either a numeric keypad or at least a row of 
number keys on the top.  I also want it to have an enter key and make sure that 
I can pair it to my iPhone and iPad without sighted help.
Which keyboard meets these needs in your opinions?  I would love answers from 
people who actually used the board they suggest and know for sure that what 
they describe is something that they had firsthand experience with.
I appreciate your suggestions

Cris

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IPhone and Bluetooth keyboards: VO+k doesn’t tell me what the functions keys do

[Gerardo Corripio]

I recently got an Elle-Gate Wireless bluetooth keyboard, and am curious what ts 
functions keys above the numbers do; so I invoked VO+k, but instead of telling 
me what the keys do, these activate! Seems like one of them (I’m not sure if f2 
or f3) comes up with some sort of Search probably Spotlight? So where oculd I 
get a command summary of what in general, the nction keys on iOS with Bluetooth 
keyboards, should do, to begin trying them out? Thanks for any info or 
tips/tricks to explore these keys.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

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Apple TV 4 gen and Bluetooth keyboards problem

['Gary Robinson' via VIPhone]

Hi all


Since the last TV OS update my Logitech K780 and Apple wireless 
keyboards have for the most part stopped working with the Apple TV., 
apart from the escape key which still takes you back a level.


Both keyboards work perfectly well with my IPAD and phone but they just 
don't operate the TV.


I  can't even use the cursor keys to navigate the home screen or within 
an app.


I've noticed on the rotor there are some settings called direct touch 
and follow focus could these be affecting the keyboard operation?  Using 
the rotor command on the siri remote is somewhat challenging as the 
normal up/down flick seems to  throw you back to the main screen.



Any help welcomed


Gary


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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[pablocmd2014]

I found on a web page some tips to fix the Bluetooth problems in IOs 11.x. 
However after I fixed my problem, I am finding that the problem reappear  if I 
try to use the Bluetooth keyboard in a different app. Then I had to turn off 
the keyboard, and turn it on again. I have found a lot of pages talking about 
this problem, and I am a little bit surprise that none of you have this problem?
How often you use a Bluetooth keyboard?


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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I'd sell it to you, Len, but I don't think you could afford it. But wait a few 
weeks until Pablo is fed up with his iPhone X and he'll sell that to you for 
$50 *smile*


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

hahahaha I want the new IPhone 6s.

On 12/3/17, pablocmd2...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard,
>
> My wife is reading your email, and she looks jealous.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> It was released yesterday morning as far as I know.
>
> Of course nobody will report any bluetooth issues in iOS 11.2 because 
> just like all other Apple hardware and software it is perfect, there 
> are no bugs like in Android and all that.
>
> Pablo, admit it, you hate Android and you love Apple.
>
> OK, for all who don’t know how Pablo and I “love” each other, this is 
> all just in good fun.
>
> Pablo of course accuses me of always defending Apple and of always 
> buying the latest which of course is the reason why Pablo has an 
> iPhone X and I have the much newer and superior iPhone 6S Plus… wait, 
> I got that wrong, the 6S Plus is 2 years old, sorry, Pablo, you are wrong 
> *smile*.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Sieghard,
>
> I never left the list.
>
> Why I am going to leave the apple word.
>
> You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you.
>
> As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also 
> I have several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist 
> because neither apple or android were going to improve without competition.
>
> I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with 
> the Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is 
> something that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I 
> haven’t seen anybody saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, 
> but it was release a few days ago.
>
> Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last 
> trip down Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I 
> don’t have a fancy new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my 
> trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 keyboard works fine. Have you checked 
> on Applevis if there is any advice on what might be going on here?
>
> I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth 
> keyboards on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is 
> referring to. I don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have 
> definitely used it to write some emails and such and it seems to work fine.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left 
> key simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.
>
> The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left 
> and right arrow keys together it will say qui

Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[lenron brown]

hahahaha I want the new IPhone 6s.

On 12/3/17, pablocmd2...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard,
>
> My wife is reading your email, and she looks jealous.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> It was released yesterday morning as far as I know.
>
> Of course nobody will report any bluetooth issues in iOS 11.2 because just
> like all other Apple hardware and software it is perfect, there are no bugs
> like in Android and all that.
>
> Pablo, admit it, you hate Android and you love Apple.
>
> OK, for all who don’t know how Pablo and I “love” each other, this is all
> just in good fun.
>
> Pablo of course accuses me of always defending Apple and of always buying
> the latest which of course is the reason why Pablo has an iPhone X and I
> have the much newer and superior iPhone 6S Plus… wait, I got that wrong, the
> 6S Plus is 2 years old, sorry, Pablo, you are wrong *smile*.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Sieghard,
>
> I never left the list.
>
> Why I am going to leave the apple word.
>
> You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you.
>
> As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also I
> have several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist because
> neither apple or android were going to improve without competition.
>
> I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with the
> Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is something
> that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I haven’t seen anybody
> saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, but it was release a few
> days ago.
>
> Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down
> Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a
> fancy new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my
> Logitech K780 keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is
> any advice on what might be going on here?
>
> I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth
> keyboards on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is
> referring to. I don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely
> used it to write some emails and such and it seems to work fine.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key
> simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.
>
> The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and
> right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again
> if it says quick Nav on.
>
> Judy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales  <mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards
> and for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to
> navigate using the Bluetooth keyboards.
>
> One

RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[pablocmd2014]

Sieghard,

My wife is reading your email, and she looks jealous.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

It was released yesterday morning as far as I know.

Of course nobody will report any bluetooth issues in iOS 11.2 because just like 
all other Apple hardware and software it is perfect, there are no bugs like in 
Android and all that.

Pablo, admit it, you hate Android and you love Apple.

OK, for all who don’t know how Pablo and I “love” each other, this is all just 
in good fun.

Pablo of course accuses me of always defending Apple and of always buying the 
latest which of course is the reason why Pablo has an iPhone X and I have the 
much newer and superior iPhone 6S Plus… wait, I got that wrong, the 6S Plus is 
2 years old, sorry, Pablo, you are wrong *smile*.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Sieghard,

I never left the list. 

Why I am going to leave the apple word. 

You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you. 

As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also I have 
several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist because neither 
apple or android were going to improve without competition.

I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with the 
Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is something 
that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I haven’t seen anybody 
saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, but it was release a few days 
ago.

Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down 
Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a fancy 
new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 
keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is any advice on 
what might be going on here?

I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth keyboards 
on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is referring to. I 
don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely used it to write 
some emails and such and it seems to work fine.

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.

The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.

One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?

I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.

iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

 

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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It was released yesterday morning as far as I know.
Of course nobody will report any bluetooth issues in iOS 11.2 because just like 
all other Apple hardware and software it is perfect, there are no bugs like in 
Android and all that.
Pablo, admit it, you hate Android and you love Apple.
OK, for all who don’t know how Pablo and I “love” each other, this is all just 
in good fun.
Pablo of course accuses me of always defending Apple and of always buying the 
latest which of course is the reason why Pablo has an iPhone X and I have the 
much newer and superior iPhone 6S Plus… wait, I got that wrong, the 6S Plus is 
2 years old, sorry, Pablo, you are wrong *smile*.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Sieghard,
I never left the list.
Why I am going to leave the apple word.
You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you.
As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also I have 
several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist because neither 
apple or android were going to improve without competition.
I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with the 
Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is something 
that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I haven’t seen anybody 
saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, but it was release a few days 
ago.
Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down 
Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a fancy 
new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 
keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is any advice on 
what might be going on here?
I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth keyboards 
on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is referring to. I 
don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely used it to write 
some emails and such and it seems to work fine.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.
The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.




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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.
Judy

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales 
mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all,
I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.
One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?
I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.
iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Pablo Morales]

Sieghard,

I never left the list. 

Why I am going to leave the apple word. 

You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you. 

As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also I have 
several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist because neither 
apple or android were going to improve without competition.

I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with the 
Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is something 
that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I haven’t seen anybody 
saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, but it was release a few days 
ago.

Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down 
Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a fancy 
new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 
keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is any advice on 
what might be going on here?

I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth keyboards 
on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is referring to. I 
don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely used it to write 
some emails and such and it seems to work fine.

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.

The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.

One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?

I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.

iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

 

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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down 
Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a fancy 
new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 
keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is any advice on 
what might be going on here?
I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth keyboards 
on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is referring to. I 
don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely used it to write 
some emails and such and it seems to work fine.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.
The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.




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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.
Judy

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales 
mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all,
I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.
One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?
I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.
iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Pablo Morales]

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.

The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.

One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?

I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.

iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

 

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Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Judy Pryor]

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.
Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards 
> and for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to 
> navigate using the Bluetooth keyboards.
> One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
> keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am 
> able to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type 
> characters, the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So 
> I am not able to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to 
> do something new to be able to type?
> I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.
> iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.
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Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Pablo Morales]

Hello all,

I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards
and for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to
navigate using the Bluetooth keyboards.

One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an
apple keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I
am able to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type
characters, the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So
I am not able to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to
do something new to be able to type?

I don't know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.

iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don't think it  is a problem.

 

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards and Carriage Returns

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi Merv. How are you? I just was testing  my apple bluetooth keyboard and i 
discover that in order  to perform a new line in a text message, I press the 
command plus enter, and that creates a new line. In other words, I press  the 
command key that is left to the space bar and the enter key at the same time. 
Hope this helps! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!

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> On Dec 4, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Merv Keck  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> When sending a text with my iPhone, if I hit enter on my Logitech Bluetooth 
> Keyboard I send the text message. Does anyone know how to begin a new line in 
> a text message which would normally be done on a PC Word Processor by hitting 
> the enter key, without sending the message? According to several google 
> sources hitting shift + enter was advised. However, this did not work for me 
> on my iPhone 6S+ using the current IOS.
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Bluetooth Keyboards and Carriage Returns

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

When sending a text with my iPhone, if I hit enter on my Logitech Bluetooth
Keyboard I send the text message. Does anyone know how to begin a new line
in a text message which would normally be done on a PC Word Processor by
hitting the enter key, without sending the message? According to several
google sources hitting shift + enter was advised. However, this did not work
for me on my iPhone 6S+ using the current IOS.

Thanks in advance,

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IOS10 and bluetooth keyboards.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Since updating to iOS10 I appear to have lost the ability to unlock my iPhone 
with my Logitech bluetooth keyboard.  Are others experiencing this issue with 
other keyboards?

Also how does one tap and hold the send button in I Messages to bring up the 
effects screen with a bluetoooth keyboard?

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[Robert Doc Wright]

Where is this happening because I have not experienced it? My gripe is that 
since iOS9 my find command 'vo+f' works infrequently. 
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  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 7:51 AM
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters


  Sadly, it's not fixed in iOS 10 and the double letters issue isn't confined 
to Bluetooth. I have an iPad pro with the smart keyboard, and it happens there 
too, so it seems to be a VO bug.

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On 12/09/2016, at 11:10 PM, terrie arnold  wrote:


I hope in the latest iOS update that this problem is fixed because, it is 
truly a pain in the rear to be typing on the Bluetooth keyboard and all of a 
sudden the double letters come up and you have to stop and turn voiceover on, 
turn it on and off sometimes you have to restart the phone because just turning 
the voiceover on and off does not do it so I really hope the latest iOS update 
10 solves this problem but I've called Apple and told him of tha about this 
problem with voiceover and repeating letters on Bluetooth keyboards so 
hopefully you all have called Apple and complained about this and maybe this'll 
be solved in the latest iOS update so I'll be can do is pray and see if it is

My thoughts for today

On Sep 12, 2016, at 5:02 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


  Richard,

  The normal problem is that you get double letters. If this is the case, 
turn off voice-over and then turn it on again! That usually solves the problem! 
You could try this with your other random problems and see if it stops them.


  He could also be that your keyboard has a slightly different layout so, 
if definitely are, you might want to check it out!

  Hope this helps! :-) Carol P -UK

  On 12 Sep 2016, at 09:22, Richard Petty  
wrote:


  Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the 
keyboard will enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech 
K380 and an Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I 
don’t think this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak 
keyboard or to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the 
same time I am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen 
only while I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to 
shut down and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external 
keyboard pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found 
a solution?

  Thanks.

  Richard Petty


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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[Chip Orange]

I had the Apple accessibility hotline also suggest this for a completely 
different problem (which turns out it would not have helped).

 

My point is I think it’s one of their first suggestions for solving any unusual 
problem, and so I am more than a little skeptical of it.

 

Richard, do you have any software key boards apps installed?  I would wonder if 
removing those would solve this problem, and it turned out my unrelated problem 
was caused by a new app I had installed, which keeps messing with volume level 
of sounds when it posts its notifications.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 3:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

Hi,

I have a friend who had your issue. He eventually resolved it by Resetting all 
settings under General and reset. This meant he had to enter all his email 
accounts and passwords for everything, like Facebook and Twitter. So its a 
pretty drastic step but did correct his bluetooth issue. 

Personally, I would see if iOS10 corrects the issue first, if it doesn't I 
would then consider the restore option.

 

On 9/13/2016 9:56 AM, Chip Orange wrote:

Hello,

 

I am fairly new to the Iphone world, and am about to buy a bluetooth keyboard.  
Could you tell me why you bought the model you did instead of the Apple 
keyboard (which I assume is the default unless you have something specific to 
make you select something else)?

 

Thanks.

 

Chip

 

 

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Miller Family
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

I have never had this issue.  I use the logitech easy switch k811.  But others 
I have talked to and helped, just turn there keyboard off, and back on after 30 
seconds, and it seems to fix this issue.  Since the public beta will be out 
tomorrow, I can let you know you will be pleasantly surprised with this issue 
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Richard Petty  wrote: 

 

Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard will 
enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and an 
Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t think 
this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or 
to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I 
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen only while 
I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to shut down 
and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external keyboard 
pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found a 
solution?

 

Thanks.

 

Richard Petty

 

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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[Chip Orange]

Great info Richard!!!

 

Thanks!

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Petty
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

Hi Chip,

 

I did first buy an Apple keyboard. What I bought was two or three generations 
ago, so my description may not apply to more recent models. I found the 
keyboard awkward to type on. The keys had flat, rectangular key tops. The 
keystroke was short and I always found myself being unsure whether the keys had 
been pressed far enough to enter a character. The keyboard was physically 
attractive and well made. It was all aluminum. I think even those uncomfortable 
keys were aluminum.

 

I bought a Logitech keyboard (K380) because it was a comfortable keyboard with 
good key travel and, even without detents, I still somehow had more certainty 
about when keys were pressed far enough to enter characters. (By the way, you 
can tell by now that I do not like to use key echo.) A disadvantage of the 
Logitech is that the top row keys do not all follow the Apple pattern of 
functions. But, I don’t find the functions that Apple assigns to their keyboard 
especially useful. I’m usually working when typing and don’t need to control 
music. 

 

I also bought the Amazon Basics keyboard. I wanted a second keyboard that was 
smaller—and the Amazon Basics is slightly smaller than either the Apple or 
Logitech. Typing on the Amazon is relatively comfortable. Not as comfortable as 
the Logitech, but still acceptable. And, the price is far lower. I bought mine 
for a little over $21.00.

 

For full size keyboards for my PCs, I have keyboards that use Cherry Blue 
switches. I’m picky about keyboards. I pretty much write all day and need 
something that can help me fend off repetitive motion injuries. The Logitech is 
no Northgate or Avant, but it’s a decent keyboard.

 

I never had the problem of random characters being entered with a key press 
from the Apple keyboard; however, that was several versions ago of the IOS 
operating system. If I found that the Logitech and Amazon Basics keyboards were 
the cause of the problem, then, of course, I would stop using them. But, unless 
the Apple keyboards have been improved, I probably just won’t use an external 
keyboard all that much.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

Hello,

 

I am fairly new to the Iphone world, and am about to buy a bluetooth keyboard.  
Could you tell me why you bought the model you did instead of the Apple 
keyboard (which I assume is the default unless you have something specific to 
make you select something else)?

 

Thanks.

 

Chip

 

 

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Miller Family
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

I have never had this issue.  I use the logitech easy switch k811.  But others 
I have talked to and helped, just turn there keyboard off, and back on after 30 
seconds, and it seems to fix this issue.  Since the public beta will be out 
tomorrow, I can let you know you will be pleasantly surprised with this issue 
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Richard Petty  wrote: 

 

Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard will 
enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and an 
Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t think 
this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or 
to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I 
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen only while 
I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to shut down 
and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external keyboard 
pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found a 
solution?

 

Thanks.

 

Richard Petty

 

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[Brett]

Hi,

I have a friend who had your issue. He eventually resolved it by 
Resetting all settings under General and reset. This meant he had to 
enter all his email accounts and passwords for everything, like Facebook 
and Twitter. So its a pretty drastic step but did correct his bluetooth 
issue.


Personally, I would see if iOS10 corrects the issue first, if it doesn't 
I would then consider the restore option.



On 9/13/2016 9:56 AM, Chip Orange wrote:


Hello,

I am fairly new to the Iphone world, and am about to buy a bluetooth 
keyboard.  Could you tell me why you bought the model you did instead 
of the Apple keyboard (which I assume is the default unless you have 
something specific to make you select something else)?


Thanks.

Chip

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Miller Family

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

I have never had this issue.  I use the logitech easy switch k811. 
 But others I have talked to and helped, just turn there keyboard off, 
and back on after 30 seconds, and it seems to fix this issue.  Since 
the public beta will be out tomorrow, I can let you know you will be 
pleasantly surprised with this issue among others.  They have squashed 
a lot of voiceover bugs.


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On Sep 12, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Richard Petty 
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:


Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the
keyboard will enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a
Logitech K380 and an Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem
to be random, so I don’t think this is a case of the keyboard
being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or to another
language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not
happen only while I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve
found so far is to shut down and then again power up the iPhone.
This makes using an external keyboard pretty unreliable. Has
anyone else experienced this and have you found a solution?

Thanks.

Richard Petty

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[Richard Petty]

Hi Chip,

 

I did first buy an Apple keyboard. What I bought was two or three generations 
ago, so my description may not apply to more recent models. I found the 
keyboard awkward to type on. The keys had flat, rectangular key tops. The 
keystroke was short and I always found myself being unsure whether the keys had 
been pressed far enough to enter a character. The keyboard was physically 
attractive and well made. It was all aluminum. I think even those uncomfortable 
keys were aluminum.

 

I bought a Logitech keyboard (K380) because it was a comfortable keyboard with 
good key travel and, even without detents, I still somehow had more certainty 
about when keys were pressed far enough to enter characters. (By the way, you 
can tell by now that I do not like to use key echo.) A disadvantage of the 
Logitech is that the top row keys do not all follow the Apple pattern of 
functions. But, I don’t find the functions that Apple assigns to their keyboard 
especially useful. I’m usually working when typing and don’t need to control 
music. 

 

I also bought the Amazon Basics keyboard. I wanted a second keyboard that was 
smaller—and the Amazon Basics is slightly smaller than either the Apple or 
Logitech. Typing on the Amazon is relatively comfortable. Not as comfortable as 
the Logitech, but still acceptable. And, the price is far lower. I bought mine 
for a little over $21.00.

 

For full size keyboards for my PCs, I have keyboards that use Cherry Blue 
switches. I’m picky about keyboards. I pretty much write all day and need 
something that can help me fend off repetitive motion injuries. The Logitech is 
no Northgate or Avant, but it’s a decent keyboard.

 

I never had the problem of random characters being entered with a key press 
from the Apple keyboard; however, that was several versions ago of the IOS 
operating system. If I found that the Logitech and Amazon Basics keyboards were 
the cause of the problem, then, of course, I would stop using them. But, unless 
the Apple keyboards have been improved, I probably just won’t use an external 
keyboard all that much.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

Hello,

 

I am fairly new to the Iphone world, and am about to buy a bluetooth keyboard.  
Could you tell me why you bought the model you did instead of the Apple 
keyboard (which I assume is the default unless you have something specific to 
make you select something else)?

 

Thanks.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Miller Family
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

I have never had this issue.  I use the logitech easy switch k811.  But others 
I have talked to and helped, just turn there keyboard off, and back on after 30 
seconds, and it seems to fix this issue.  Since the public beta will be out 
tomorrow, I can let you know you will be pleasantly surprised with this issue 
among others.  They have squashed a lot of voiceover bugs. 

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On Sep 12, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Richard Petty  wrote: 

 

Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard will 
enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and an 
Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t think 
this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or 
to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I 
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen only while 
I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to shut down 
and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external keyboard 
pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found a 
solution?

 

Thanks.

 

Richard Petty

 

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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[Chip Orange]

Hello,

 

I am fairly new to the Iphone world, and am about to buy a bluetooth keyboard.  
Could you tell me why you bought the model you did instead of the Apple 
keyboard (which I assume is the default unless you have something specific to 
make you select something else)?

 

Thanks.

 

Chip

 

 

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

I have never had this issue.  I use the logitech easy switch k811.  But others 
I have talked to and helped, just turn there keyboard off, and back on after 30 
seconds, and it seems to fix this issue.  Since the public beta will be out 
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Richard Petty  wrote: 

 

Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard will 
enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and an 
Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t think 
this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or 
to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I 
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen only while 
I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to shut down 
and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external keyboard 
pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found a 
solution?

 

Thanks.

 

Richard Petty

 

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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[Rose Combs]

Turn off Voiceover and then turn it back on with the keyboard connected.  

 

 

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Subject: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

 

Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard will 
enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and an 
Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t think 
this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or 
to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I 
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen only while 
I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to shut down 
and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external keyboard 
pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found a 
solution?

 

Thanks.

 

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[Jonathan Mosen]

Sadly, it's not fixed in iOS 10 and the double letters issue isn't confined to 
Bluetooth. I have an iPad pro with the smart keyboard, and it happens there 
too, so it seems to be a VO bug.
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> On 12/09/2016, at 11:10 PM, terrie arnold  wrote:
> 
> I hope in the latest iOS update that this problem is fixed because, it is 
> truly a pain in the rear to be typing on the Bluetooth keyboard and all of a 
> sudden the double letters come up and you have to stop and turn voiceover on, 
> turn it on and off sometimes you have to restart the phone because just 
> turning the voiceover on and off does not do it so I really hope the latest 
> iOS update 10 solves this problem but I've called Apple and told him of tha 
> about this problem with voiceover and repeating letters on Bluetooth 
> keyboards so hopefully you all have called Apple and complained about this 
> and maybe this'll be solved in the latest iOS update so I'll be can do is 
> pray and see if it is
> 
> My thoughts for today
> 
> On Sep 12, 2016, at 5:02 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
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>> Richard,
>> 
>> The normal problem is that you get double letters. If this is the case, turn 
>> off voice-over and then turn it on again! That usually solves the problem! 
>> You could try this with your other random problems and see if it stops them.
>> 
>> He could also be that your keyboard has a slightly different layout so, if 
>> definitely are, you might want to check it out!
>> 
>> Hope this helps! :-) Carol P -UK
>> 
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 09:22, Richard Petty > <mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard 
>> will enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and 
>> an Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t 
>> think this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak 
>> keyboard or to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at 
>> the same time I am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not 
>> happen only while I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so 
>> far is to shut down and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an 
>> external keyboard pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and 
>> have you found a solution?
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Richard Petty
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

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I have never had this issue.  I use the logitech easy switch k811.  But others 
I have talked to and helped, just turn there keyboard off, and back on after 30 
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Richard Petty 
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard will 
enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and an 
Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t think 
this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or 
to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I 
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen only while 
I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to shut down 
and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external keyboard 
pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found a 
solution?

Thanks.

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[terrie arnold]

I hope in the latest iOS update that this problem is fixed because, it is truly 
a pain in the rear to be typing on the Bluetooth keyboard and all of a sudden 
the double letters come up and you have to stop and turn voiceover on, turn it 
on and off sometimes you have to restart the phone because just turning the 
voiceover on and off does not do it so I really hope the latest iOS update 10 
solves this problem but I've called Apple and told him of tha about this 
problem with voiceover and repeating letters on Bluetooth keyboards so 
hopefully you all have called Apple and complained about this and maybe this'll 
be solved in the latest iOS update so I'll be can do is pray and see if it is

My thoughts for today

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 5:02 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> The normal problem is that you get double letters. If this is the case, turn 
> off voice-over and then turn it on again! That usually solves the problem! 
> You could try this with your other random problems and see if it stops them.
> 
> He could also be that your keyboard has a slightly different layout so, if 
> definitely are, you might want to check it out!
> 
> Hope this helps! :-) Carol P -UK
> 
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 09:22, Richard Petty  wrote:
> 
> Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard 
> will enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and 
> an Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t 
> think this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak 
> keyboard or to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the 
> same time I am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not 
> happen only while I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so 
> far is to shut down and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an 
> external keyboard pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and 
> have you found a solution?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Richard Petty
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Richard,

The normal problem is that you get double letters. If this is the case, turn 
off voice-over and then turn it on again! That usually solves the problem! You 
could try this with your other random problems and see if it stops them.

He could also be that your keyboard has a slightly different layout so, if 
definitely are, you might want to check it out!

Hope this helps! :-) Carol P -UK

On 12 Sep 2016, at 09:22, Richard Petty  wrote:

Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard will 
enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and an 
Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t think 
this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or 
to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I 
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen only while 
I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to shut down 
and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external keyboard 
pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found a 
solution?
 
Thanks.
 
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Bluetooth Keyboards Entering Incorrect Letters & Characters

[Richard Petty]

Frequently while using a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 6, the keyboard will 
enter incorrect characters. This has occurred with a Logitech K380 and an 
Amazon Basics keyboard. Character errors seem to be random, so I don’t think 
this is a case of the keyboard being somehow switched to a Dvorak keyboard or 
to another language. I frequently use a Bluetooth keyboard at the same time I 
am using a Bluetooth earpiece, although the problem does not happen only while 
I am using the earpiece. The only solution I’ve found so far is to shut down 
and then again power up the iPhone. This makes using an external keyboard 
pretty unreliable. Has anyone else experienced this and have you found a 
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Re: iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

[Chris Smart]

Hi.
I've been forwarding/reporting everything to that address as
well.
At 01:44 PM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Hi Chris 
Please report any problems like this with your bluetooth keyboard to
accessibil...@apple.com.
It's really important that as many people report it as possible in the
hope that Apple might actually listen to us, take the problems seriously,
and actually do something about fixing it. 
Eleanor 
Sent from my iPad
On 24 Sep 2015, at 18:34, Chris Smart

wrote:
Shoot. Forget that. It's not
fixed, although I was able to use my keyboard for a short while.

At 11:30 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
 Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior
where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
Chris
 
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Re: iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I was getting double characters when I pasted text in using Tye2Phone in iOS 9, 
but I'm not having that problem with 9.0.1, so I do think they fixed at least 
some issues with Bluetooth keyboards.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 24, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Chris Smart  wrote:
> 
> Update:
> 
> It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my 
> Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS 9.01.
> 
> Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field, and 
> experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening with iOS 
> 9.0. This was promising.
> 
>  Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior where I 
> couldn't type in edit fields at all.
> 
> However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More Info" for my 
> keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then re-pairing with it, I 
> can now type just fine!
> 
> So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least be 
> able to type as before.
> 
> It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I haven't 
> encountered it yet.
> 
> Chris
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Re: iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi Chris 

Please report any problems like this with your bluetooth keyboard to 
accessibil...@apple.com. It's really important that as many people report it as 
possible in the hope that Apple might actually listen to us, take the problems 
seriously, and actually do something about fixing it. 

Eleanor 

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> On 24 Sep 2015, at 18:34, Chris Smart  wrote:
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> Shoot. Forget that. It's not fixed, although I was able to use my keyboard 
> for a short while.
> 
> 
> At 11:30 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
>> Update:
>> 
>> It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my 
>> Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS 9.01.
>> 
>> Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field, 
>> and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening with 
>> iOS 9.0. This was promising.
>> 
>>  Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior where I 
>> couldn't type in edit fields at all.
>> 
>> However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More Info" for my 
>> keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then re-pairing with it, 
>> I can now type just fine!
>> 
>> So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least be 
>> able to type as before.
>> 
>> It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I haven't 
>> encountered it yet.
>> 
>> Chris
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Re: iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

[Chris Smart]

Shoot. Forget that. It's not fixed, although I was able to use my
keyboard for a short while.

At 11:30 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
 Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior
where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
Chris
 
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iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

[Chris Smart]

Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
 Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior
where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
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RE: Bluetooth keyboards and commands for iPad

[Rose Combs]

Neither is the IOS 9 book, most of the time you read a partial description then 
it tells you to see something else which was again vague.  I always read the 
book each year anyway, figure it can't hurt me.  Still, they seem to be more 
vague and dependent on graphics this year.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth keyboards and commands for iPad

I saw a list of Bluetooth keyboards commands that they did from iOS 7 I 
believe. I wonder if there is something newer. I know there are many new 
commands in iOS nine, but apparently the popovers that show these are not 
accessible to us. Not too helpful there, Apple.also I wonder if anyone still 
makes a full-size Bluetooth keyboard that works with Apple devices. Matt Ally 
used to make one, but I haven't seen it around lately in the Mac store. I have 
an Apple keyboard, but it's missing a control key to the right of the . Also I 
wonder if anyone still makes a full-size Bluetooth keyboard that works with 
Apple devices. Mac Ally used to make one, but I haven't seen it around lately 
in the Mac store. I have an Apple keyboard, but it's missing a control key to 
the right of the spacebar.. I hate that. So I'm looking for something that 
is full-size if it still exists.
Mary

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Bluetooth keyboards and commands for iPad

[Mary Otten]

I saw a list of Bluetooth keyboards commands that they did from iOS 7 I 
believe. I wonder if there is something newer. I know there are many new 
commands in iOS nine, but apparently the popovers that show these are not 
accessible to us. Not too helpful there, Apple.also I wonder if anyone still 
makes a full-size Bluetooth keyboard that works with Apple devices. Matt Ally 
used to make one, but I haven't seen it around lately in the Mac store. I have 
an Apple keyboard, but it's missing a control key to the right of the . Also I 
wonder if anyone still makes a full-size Bluetooth keyboard that works with 
Apple devices. Mac Ally used to make one, but I haven't seen it around lately 
in the Mac store. I have an Apple keyboard, but it's missing a control key to 
the right of the spacebar.. I hate that. So I'm looking for something that 
is full-size if it still exists.
Mary

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Re: verbatim keyvoard. Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Jennie Facer]

The verbatim keyboard is a good keyboard, but it is very flimsy and can be 
broken easily. Just keep that in mind. 

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

> On Apr 26, 2015, at 9:33 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Dear all. I was considering another bluetooth keyvoard on top of amazon 
> basics which i am very happy with. I want the alternative keyboard to be 
> folding with the  option of vo hotkey  and not too expensive than $40.  
> Logitech has many models but folding one seems to be close to $100. A 
> verbatim keyboard seems to be close in range. Any warnings or suggestions 
> about keyboards for my iphone 5 c. Before i finalize my purchase?
> Thank u for any suggestion 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Christopher J Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There's Apple's own page at 
>> http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html which I usually 
>> just find with Google when I need to jog my memory about a key mapping.
>> 
>>> On 4/21/2015 9:18 AM, Kathy Melton wrote:
>>> Hello, I am new to the list, so forgive some of my "learning" questions. I 
>>> am interested in knowing if anyone knows of a list of keyboard 
>>> instructions/commands/shortcut keys for the Apple keyboard I have for my 
>>> IPhone 5.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Kathy Melton
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of David Justice
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:42 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm writing this message using a Logitech K810 Bluetooth keyboard.  The 
>>> device I'm using is an iPod Touch running iOS 7.x.  The Touch is in another 
>>> room plugged in and charging.  It is about 20 feet away from where I am 
>>> sitting.  I'm also wearing a Bluetooth headset so that I can hear 
>>> VoiceOver.  I can not detect any lag between what I am typing on the 
>>> keyboard and what I am hearing through the headset.
>>> 
>>> As others have said, normally you do not have to pair the keyboard again 
>>> just because you've turned it off and then back on.
>>> 
>>> I do not carry a Bluetooth keyboard around with me, but if I am near one I 
>>> am more likely to use it to access the iPod Touch than I am to use the 
>>> touch screen. This does not mean I have anything against using the touch 
>>> screen, it simply means I use whatever is most effective at the moment.
>>> 
>>> I do not have the latest hardware, and rarely use my iPod running iOS 8.3, 
>>> so can not say from personal experience whether the latest iPhones running 
>>> the latest iOs have any problems with Bluetooth in general, or Bluetooth 
>>> keyboards in particular.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  David Justice :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Destene Noller  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good Evening!
>>>> 
>>>> I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 
>>>> 6. Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when 
>>>> it appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save 
>>>> power, do you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is 
>>>> turned back on?
>>>> 
>>>> I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much 
>>>> faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot 
>>>> faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that 
>>>> impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my 
>>>> fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation 
>>>> difficulties. Thanks for any help with this in advance!
>>>> 
>>>> Desi
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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verbatim keyvoard. Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[TaraPrakash]

Dear all. I was considering another bluetooth keyvoard on top of amazon basics 
which i am very happy with. I want the alternative keyboard to be folding with 
the  option of vo hotkey  and not too expensive than $40.  Logitech has many 
models but folding one seems to be close to $100. A verbatim keyboard seems to 
be close in range. Any warnings or suggestions about keyboards for my iphone 5 
c. Before i finalize my purchase?
Thank u for any suggestion 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Christopher J Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> There's Apple's own page at 
> http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html which I usually 
> just find with Google when I need to jog my memory about a key mapping.
> 
>> On 4/21/2015 9:18 AM, Kathy Melton wrote:
>> Hello, I am new to the list, so forgive some of my "learning" questions. I 
>> am interested in knowing if anyone knows of a list of keyboard 
>> instructions/commands/shortcut keys for the Apple keyboard I have for my 
>> IPhone 5.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Kathy Melton
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of David Justice
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions
>> 
>> 
>> I'm writing this message using a Logitech K810 Bluetooth keyboard.  The 
>> device I'm using is an iPod Touch running iOS 7.x.  The Touch is in another 
>> room plugged in and charging.  It is about 20 feet away from where I am 
>> sitting.  I'm also wearing a Bluetooth headset so that I can hear VoiceOver. 
>>  I can not detect any lag between what I am typing on the keyboard and what 
>> I am hearing through the headset.
>> 
>> As others have said, normally you do not have to pair the keyboard again 
>> just because you've turned it off and then back on.
>> 
>> I do not carry a Bluetooth keyboard around with me, but if I am near one I 
>> am more likely to use it to access the iPod Touch than I am to use the touch 
>> screen. This does not mean I have anything against using the touch screen, 
>> it simply means I use whatever is most effective at the moment.
>> 
>> I do not have the latest hardware, and rarely use my iPod running iOS 8.3, 
>> so can not say from personal experience whether the latest iPhones running 
>> the latest iOs have any problems with Bluetooth in general, or Bluetooth 
>> keyboards in particular.
>> 
>> 
>>   David Justice :)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Destene Noller  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Evening!
>>> 
>>> I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 
>>> 6. Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it 
>>> appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do 
>>> you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back 
>>> on?
>>> 
>>> I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much 
>>> faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot 
>>> faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that 
>>> impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my 
>>> fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation 
>>> difficulties. Thanks for any help with this in advance!
>>> 
>>> Desi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Christopher J Chaltain]

There's Apple's own page at 
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html which I 
usually just find with Google when I need to jog my memory about a key 
mapping.


On 4/21/2015 9:18 AM, Kathy Melton wrote:

Hello, I am new to the list, so forgive some of my "learning" questions. I am 
interested in knowing if anyone knows of a list of keyboard 
instructions/commands/shortcut keys for the Apple keyboard I have for my IPhone 5.

Thank you.

Kathy Melton


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David Justice
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions


I'm writing this message using a Logitech K810 Bluetooth keyboard.  The device 
I'm using is an iPod Touch running iOS 7.x.  The Touch is in another room 
plugged in and charging.  It is about 20 feet away from where I am sitting.  
I'm also wearing a Bluetooth headset so that I can hear VoiceOver.  I can not 
detect any lag between what I am typing on the keyboard and what I am hearing 
through the headset.

As others have said, normally you do not have to pair the keyboard again just 
because you've turned it off and then back on.

I do not carry a Bluetooth keyboard around with me, but if I am near one I am 
more likely to use it to access the iPod Touch than I am to use the touch 
screen. This does not mean I have anything against using the touch screen, it 
simply means I use whatever is most effective at the moment.

I do not have the latest hardware, and rarely use my iPod running iOS 8.3, so 
can not say from personal experience whether the latest iPhones running the 
latest iOs have any problems with Bluetooth in general, or Bluetooth keyboards 
in particular.


   David Justice :)



On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Destene Noller  wrote:

Good Evening!

I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 6. Is 
there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it appears 
on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do you have to 
re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back on?

I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much faster 
at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot faster! Though 
I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that impressed with the 
Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my fingers placed 
correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation difficulties. Thanks 
for any help with this in advance!

Desi

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Kathy,

If you go to www.applevis.com and go to podcasts, there is a podcast for 
keyboard commands. I'm sorry I don't have a link.

Jenn 

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> On Apr 21, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Kathy Melton  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I am new to the list, so forgive some of my "learning" questions. I am 
> interested in knowing if anyone knows of a list of keyboard 
> instructions/commands/shortcut keys for the Apple keyboard I have for my 
> IPhone 5. 
> 
> Thank you. 
> 
> Kathy Melton 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Justice
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions
> 
> 
> I'm writing this message using a Logitech K810 Bluetooth keyboard.  The 
> device I'm using is an iPod Touch running iOS 7.x.  The Touch is in another 
> room plugged in and charging.  It is about 20 feet away from where I am 
> sitting.  I'm also wearing a Bluetooth headset so that I can hear VoiceOver.  
> I can not detect any lag between what I am typing on the keyboard and what I 
> am hearing through the headset.  
> 
> As others have said, normally you do not have to pair the keyboard again just 
> because you've turned it off and then back on.  
> 
> I do not carry a Bluetooth keyboard around with me, but if I am near one I am 
> more likely to use it to access the iPod Touch than I am to use the touch 
> screen. This does not mean I have anything against using the touch screen, it 
> simply means I use whatever is most effective at the moment.  
> 
> I do not have the latest hardware, and rarely use my iPod running iOS 8.3, so 
> can not say from personal experience whether the latest iPhones running the 
> latest iOs have any problems with Bluetooth in general, or Bluetooth 
> keyboards in particular. 
> 
> 
>  David Justice :) 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Destene Noller  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good Evening!
>> 
>> I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 6. 
>> Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it 
>> appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do 
>> you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back 
>> on?
>> 
>> I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much 
>> faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot 
>> faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that 
>> impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my 
>> fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation 
>> difficulties. Thanks for any help with this in advance!
>> 
>> Desi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Kathy Melton]

Hello, I am new to the list, so forgive some of my "learning" questions. I am 
interested in knowing if anyone knows of a list of keyboard 
instructions/commands/shortcut keys for the Apple keyboard I have for my IPhone 
5. 

Thank you. 

Kathy Melton 


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Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions


I'm writing this message using a Logitech K810 Bluetooth keyboard.  The device 
I'm using is an iPod Touch running iOS 7.x.  The Touch is in another room 
plugged in and charging.  It is about 20 feet away from where I am sitting.  
I'm also wearing a Bluetooth headset so that I can hear VoiceOver.  I can not 
detect any lag between what I am typing on the keyboard and what I am hearing 
through the headset.  

As others have said, normally you do not have to pair the keyboard again just 
because you've turned it off and then back on.  

I do not carry a Bluetooth keyboard around with me, but if I am near one I am 
more likely to use it to access the iPod Touch than I am to use the touch 
screen. This does not mean I have anything against using the touch screen, it 
simply means I use whatever is most effective at the moment.  

I do not have the latest hardware, and rarely use my iPod running iOS 8.3, so 
can not say from personal experience whether the latest iPhones running the 
latest iOs have any problems with Bluetooth in general, or Bluetooth keyboards 
in particular. 


  David Justice :) 


> On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Destene Noller  
> wrote:
> 
> Good Evening!
> 
> I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 6. 
> Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it 
> appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do 
> you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back 
> on?
> 
> I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much 
> faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot 
> faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that 
> impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my 
> fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation 
> difficulties. Thanks for any help with this in advance!
> 
> Desi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[David Justice]

I'm writing this message using a Logitech K810 Bluetooth keyboard.  The device 
I'm using is an iPod Touch running iOS 7.x.  The Touch is in another room 
plugged in and charging.  It is about 20 feet away from where I am sitting.  
I'm also wearing a Bluetooth headset so that I can hear VoiceOver.  I can not 
detect any lag between what I am typing on the keyboard and what I am hearing 
through the headset.  

As others have said, normally you do not have to pair the keyboard again just 
because you've turned it off and then back on.  

I do not carry a Bluetooth keyboard around with me, but if I am near one I am 
more likely to use it to access the iPod Touch than I am to use the touch 
screen. This does not mean I have anything against using the touch screen, it 
simply means I use whatever is most effective at the moment.  

I do not have the latest hardware, and rarely use my iPod running iOS 8.3, so 
can not say from personal experience whether the latest iPhones running the 
latest iOs have any problems with Bluetooth in general, or Bluetooth keyboards 
in particular. 


  David Justice :) 


> On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Destene Noller  
> wrote:
> 
> Good Evening!
> 
> I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 6. 
> Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it 
> appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do 
> you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back 
> on?
> 
> I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much 
> faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot 
> faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that 
> impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my 
> fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation 
> difficulties. Thanks for any help with this in advance!
> 
> Desi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Chris Smart]

Hi there.

I recently bought a Logitech Keys-to-go bluetooth keyboard. It's only 
a quarter of an inch thick, weighs about 6 ounces, thinner than the 
phone itself, and the keys are almost as large as on a regular 
keyboard. It is covered in a protective membrane so it's spill/dirt 
resistent, and the keys travel a tiny distance, so it's almost silent 
to use. I recommend you check it out, but at $70 US, it's not the 
cheapest option around.  It's primarily designed with iOS in mind, as 
the top row of keys is iOS specific and launch particular functions, 
control media playback etc. Also, FN+arrow left/right selects words.


 I don't have to pair it often, meaning most of the time, I turn it 
on and my phone recognizes it, if Bluetooth is turned on in Settings 
already of course.


There is no lag I can detect between pressing a key and hearing 
Voiceover repeat it, and I'm a guitar player with a lot of 
sensitivity when it comes to latency between my hands and my ears. (grin)


Chris


At 10:20 PM 4/19/2015, you wrote:

Good Evening!

I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my 
iPhone 6. Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is 
typed and when it appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the 
keyboard off to save power, do you have to re-pair it with the phone 
each time the keyboard is turned back on?


I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am 
much faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to 
type a lot faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I 
haven't been that impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. 
I don't seem to get my fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to 
deal with the translation difficulties. Thanks for any help with 
this in advance!


Desi

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Terry-Ann Saurmann]

Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it 
appears on the screen?  There shouldn't be.


Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do
you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back 
on?  You shouldn't have to do any re-pairing.  Terry 


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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Alan J Paganelli]

Hi!  Let me explaine how I use my bluetooth wireless keyboard.  I don't use 
it to control my iPhone such as opening and closing apps etc.  All I use it 
for is to enter in text in email messages and any other text entry fields. 
I have an Amazon Basics Bluetooth wireless keyboard that I caught on special 
from the Amazon web site and paid 20 bucks USD and free shipping.  For what 
I'm using it for, that's all I was willing to shell out.


So if I'm doing my email from my iPhone 5s, I'll read messages in the usual 
way etc.  The only time I use the keyboard is when I want to reply to one 
and when the text entry box opens, I pick up the wireless keyboard so for 
me, it wasn't worth spending any more then 20 bucks.


HTH




Regards,
Alan
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available upon request. Thanks for listening!
-Original Message- 
From: Destene Noller

Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

Good Evening!

I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 6. 
Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it 
appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do 
you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back 
on?


I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much 
faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot 
faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that 
impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my 
fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation 
difficulties. Thanks for any help with this in advance!


Desi

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Neal Ewers]

Hi Desi, There is a little bit of a lag between when you press the letter and 
hear it especially if you have the keyboard set to announce characters. This is 
even true on my iPhone 6. So, I either turn the volume done enough so it 
doesn't bother me, or set keyboard announce to none. The nice thing with this 
is that if you make a mistake and have to backspace, the characters you read 
over are announced, but not the ones you type. My Logitech 811 keyboard is so 
much nicer than the Apple keyboard I have in that the keys are concave. This 
scared me a bit until I got it, but my fingers fit just exactly in the keys 
which are rounded and not square and butted up against each other as they are 
on the apple keyboard. So, I don't any more have to worry about pressing two 
keys at once, There is enough space between to help prevent this without making 
the keys too small, and I do have large hands.

Also, there is a slide switch to turn it on rather than the push button on the 
apple which can get pressed accidently. It pairs with up to 3 keyboards, and it 
is easy to pair, and keeps its settings.
 I hope this helps.

Neal


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Stacy Fuehrer
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

Desi, I have an apple Bluetooth keyboard. I often mine off when not in use, and 
no need to pair any of the keyboards when turning them on again. 
Hth, 
Stacy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 19, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Destene Noller  wrote:
> 
> Good Evening!
> 
> I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 6. 
> Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it 
> appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do 
> you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back 
> on?
> 
> I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much 
> faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot 
> faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that 
> impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my 
> fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation 
> difficulties. Thanks for any help with this in advance!
> 
> Desi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Stacy Fuehrer]

Desi, I have an apple Bluetooth keyboard. I often mine off when not in use, and 
no need to pair any of the keyboards when turning them on again. 
Hth, 
Stacy 

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> On Apr 19, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Destene Noller  wrote:
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> Good Evening!
> 
> I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 6. 
> Is there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it 
> appears on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do 
> you have to re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back 
> on?
> 
> I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much 
> faster at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot 
> faster! Though I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that 
> impressed with the Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my 
> fingers placed correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation 
> difficulties. Thanks for any help with this in advance!
> 
> Desi
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Bluetooth Keyboards again--Questions

[Destene Noller]

Good Evening!

I have been considering buying a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone 6. Is 
there a lot of lag time between when a character is typed and when it appears 
on the screen? Also, if you turn the keyboard off to save power, do you have to 
re-pair it with the phone each time the keyboard is turned back on?

I am writing this message using the onscreen keyboard at which I am much faster 
at than I used to be, but I would like to be able to type a lot faster! Though 
I am a strong advocate of Braille, I haven't been that impressed with the 
Braille onscreen input options. I don't seem to get my fingers placed 
correctly, and I don't care to deal with the translation difficulties. Thanks 
for any help with this in advance!

Desi

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RE: bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Petty]

On my iPhone 6 with latest IOs 8, I have had this happen more often with the 
tab character than other characters. When it does happen, I cannot stop it 
without shutting down the phone.

 

Richard Petty

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713-529-4476

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboards

 

It seems to vary by app in some situations.

A coworker with a 6 plus just had that issue in Writer, but she could type just 
fine in Notes, and Pages.

I find that when it happens on my 5s, it happens everywhere until I turn off 
bluetooth, turn off the keyboard, power off the phone, power the phone back on 
and then turn on the keyboard.

So, who knows when this might get fixed.

Richard

 

 

 


On Apr 2, 2015, at 2:45 AM, Robert Doc wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Has there been any new news concerning the doubling of characters while typeing 
in an edit field with a bluetooth keyboard?

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Re: bluetooth keyboards

[Isaac Hebert]

As of today I haven't noticed any doubling when typing on my bluetooth keyboard.

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> On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Robert Doc wright  
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> After writing that I find that its no loger happening on both my iPad and 
> iPhone
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> 
> It seems to vary by app in some situations.
> A coworker with a 6 plus just had that issue in Writer, but she could type 
> just fine in Notes, and Pages.
> I find that when it happens on my 5s, it happens everywhere until I turn off 
> bluetooth, turn off the keyboard, power off the phone, power the phone back 
> on and then turn on the keyboard.
> So, who knows when this might get fixed.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: bluetooth keyboards

[Robert Doc wright]

After writing that I find that its no loger happening on both my iPad and iPhone
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
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  Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 6:08 AM
  Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboards


  It seems to vary by app in some situations.
  A coworker with a 6 plus just had that issue in Writer, but she could type 
just fine in Notes, and Pages.
  I find that when it happens on my 5s, it happens everywhere until I turn off 
bluetooth, turn off the keyboard, power off the phone, power the phone back on 
and then turn on the keyboard.
  So, who knows when this might get fixed.
  Richard







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Re: bluetooth keyboards

[Teresa Cochran]

It's not necessarily just doubling. I've gotten hundreds of repetitions of a 
character sometimes. This is the most significant bug I've experienced in iOS. 
It seems to be a Voiceover issue as far as I can tell, because I've heard no 
widespread complaints amongst sighted folks about it.

Teresa

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> On Apr 2, 2015, at 5:08 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> It seems to vary by app in some situations.
> A coworker with a 6 plus just had that issue in Writer, but she could type 
> just fine in Notes, and Pages.
> I find that when it happens on my 5s, it happens everywhere until I turn off 
> bluetooth, turn off the keyboard, power off the phone, power the phone back 
> on and then turn on the keyboard.
> So, who knows when this might get fixed.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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Re: bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

It seems to vary by app in some situations.
A coworker with a 6 plus just had that issue in Writer, but she could type just 
fine in Notes, and Pages.
I find that when it happens on my 5s, it happens everywhere until I turn off 
bluetooth, turn off the keyboard, power off the phone, power the phone back on 
and then turn on the keyboard.
So, who knows when this might get fixed.
Richard




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Has there been any new news concerning the doubling of characters while typeing 
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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Chris Smart]

I've had good luck with a Logitech Keys-to-Go.

At 12:32 PM 3/2/2015, you wrote:
Hi, I don’t have that problem, but I have the 
Apple keyboard and it is often flaky. I 
sometimes get double letters when I press a 
letter. It sometimes works well and sometimes 
doesn’t. I actually have more problems with it 
in my iPhone 6 than I did on my 5. I wonder if 
Apple makes a newer keyboard that works better, 
or if this is just the nature of the bluetooth 
keyboard situation at this ppoint?


Neal

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Subject: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

Hi All,
Are there still known issues with some bluetooth 
keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I just received my new 
BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't 
work, yet it works fine with VO turned off.  I 
had thought this was fixed in one of the updates 
but would like confirmation one way or the other before I contact Brydge.

Thanks,
Todd
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Robert Doc Wright]

Its just not the keyboard.  I have had the same thing happen with the on screen 
keyboard.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi all,

 

As Jonathan said, quicknav being turned off works quite well although I still 
have a problem with the echoing of the wrong number when I enter a phone 
number.  If I try to enter something like 555-1212, I type it in and I could 
hear 555-1712 but, know that the right number has been entered.  If you pay 
attention to what you are typing, just ignore what VO echoes and you will be 
just fine.  Its annoying but its workable.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

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Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

 

Hi Todd, have you checked that QuickNav is off? If it's not, in the presently 
released build of iOS 8, you won't be able to input text. Toggle it by pressing 
the left and right arrow keys together.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

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http://Mosen.org

 

On 3/03/2015, at 5:51 am, Todd W mailto:toddstechby...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi All,

Are there still known issues with some bluetooth keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I 
just received my new BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't work, yet 
it works fine with VO turned off.  I had thought this was fixed in one of the 
updates but would like confirmation one way or the other before I contact 
Brydge.

Thanks,

Todd

 

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Teresa Cochran]

It used to toggle automatically when going into a text field, but it doesn't 
anymore. You either have to use the control-option keys with QuickNav off in 
order to navigate, or remember to toggle it off when you want to type text.

HtH,
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> On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
> Excellent Jonathon!  Typing with the keyboard now after toggling QuickNav.  
> Thanks for the tip!
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Todd, have you checked that QuickNav is off? If it's not, in the 
>> presently released build of iOS 8, you won't be able to input text. Toggle 
>> it by pressing the left and right arrow keys together.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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>> 
>>> On 3/03/2015, at 5:51 am, Todd W  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Are there still known issues with some bluetooth keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I 
>>> just received my new BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't work, 
>>> yet it works fine with VO turned off.  I had thought this was fixed in one 
>>> of the updates but would like confirmation one way or the other before I 
>>> contact Brydge.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Todd
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Todd W]

Excellent Jonathon!  Typing with the keyboard now after toggling QuickNav.  
Thanks for the tip!

Todd



> On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
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> Hi Todd, have you checked that QuickNav is off? If it's not, in the presently 
> released build of iOS 8, you won't be able to input text. Toggle it by 
> pressing the left and right arrow keys together.
> Jonathan Mosen
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>> On 3/03/2015, at 5:51 am, Todd W  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Are there still known issues with some bluetooth keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I 
>> just received my new BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't work, 
>> yet it works fine with VO turned off.  I had thought this was fixed in one 
>> of the updates but would like confirmation one way or the other before I 
>> contact Brydge.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Teresa Cochran]

I have two external keyboards and a Braille display. The keyboards are a wired 
keyboard and a bluetooth one. All three devices are flakey with iOS8. I find 
that having QuikNav on and always showing the keyboard are both very helpful 
settings.

HtH,
Teresa

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> On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Todd, have you checked that QuickNav is off? If it's not, in the presently 
> released build of iOS 8, you won't be able to input text. Toggle it by 
> pressing the left and right arrow keys together.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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> 
>> On 3/03/2015, at 5:51 am, Todd W  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Are there still known issues with some bluetooth keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I 
>> just received my new BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't work, 
>> yet it works fine with VO turned off.  I had thought this was fixed in one 
>> of the updates but would like confirmation one way or the other before I 
>> contact Brydge.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Todd
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Todd, have you checked that QuickNav is off? If it's not, in the presently 
released build of iOS 8, you won't be able to input text. Toggle it by pressing 
the left and right arrow keys together.
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> On 3/03/2015, at 5:51 am, Todd W  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Are there still known issues with some bluetooth keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I 
> just received my new BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't work, 
> yet it works fine with VO turned off.  I had thought this was fixed in one of 
> the updates but would like confirmation one way or the other before I contact 
> Brydge.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Todd
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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Neal Ewers]

Hi, I don’t have that problem, but I have the Apple keyboard and it is often 
flaky. I sometimes get double letters when I press a letter. It sometimes works 
well and sometimes doesn’t. I actually have more problems with it in my iPhone 
6 than I did on my 5. I wonder if Apple makes a newer keyboard that works 
better, or if this is just the nature of the bluetooth keyboard situation at 
this ppoint?

 

Neal

 

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Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

 

Hi All,

Are there still known issues with some bluetooth keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I 
just received my new BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't work, yet 
it works fine with VO turned off.  I had thought this was fixed in one of the 
updates but would like confirmation one way or the other before I contact 
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Thanks,

Todd

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Isaac Hebert]

I haven’t noticed  issues
>  with my apple wireless keyboard but I am sure there probably people who are 
> having issues with there keyboards.On Mar 2, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Todd W 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Are there still known issues with some bluetooth keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I 
> just received my new BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't work, 
> yet it works fine with VO turned off.  I had thought this was fixed in one of 
> the updates but would like confirmation one way or the other before I contact 
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Bluetooth Keyboards till an issue with VO?

[Todd W]

Hi All,

Are there still known issues with some bluetooth keyboards and iOS 8.13?  I
just received my new BrydgeAir keyboard and when VO is on it doesn't work,
yet it works fine with VO turned off.  I had thought this was fixed in one
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Thanks,

Todd

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Re: IPad Mini and bluetooth keyboards

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello. Ever since IOS  8.0 you need to turn quick navigation mode off to type 
with a Bluetooth keyboard. That should help.



> On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Clark  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Does anyone know if the Amazon Basic Bluetooth keyboard is compatible with 
> IOS 8.1? I upgraded my IPad Mini and Iphone 5s to the latest IOS .1 and the 
> keyboard is not working correctly. Specifically using the keyboard to enter 
> text in edit boxes. I have an another IPAD mini with IOS 7 and it works fine. 
> Does anyone know what I may do with the Amazon keyboard to have it work 
> correctly? Firmware update or something?
> Ok, now if this is a barrier with the IOS 8.1, can I put my IPad back to IOS 
> 7? Any recommendations for Bluetooth keyboards that will work with IOS 8 and 
> voiceover?
> Thanks in advance,
> Jeff
>  
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IPad Mini and bluetooth keyboards

[Jeff Clark]

Hello, 

Does anyone know if the Amazon Basic Bluetooth keyboard is compatible with
IOS 8.1? I upgraded my IPad Mini and Iphone 5s to the latest IOS .1 and the
keyboard is not working correctly. Specifically using the keyboard to enter
text in edit boxes. I have an another IPAD mini with IOS 7 and it works
fine. Does anyone know what I may do with the Amazon keyboard to have it
work correctly? Firmware update or something?

Ok, now if this is a barrier with the IOS 8.1, can I put my IPad back to IOS
7? Any recommendations for Bluetooth keyboards that will work with IOS 8 and
voiceover?

Thanks in advance,

Jeff

 

 

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