Re: Text Grabber & Image to Text

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I've had Text Grabber on my various iPhones for at least four or five years now 
and recommend it highly to my students and to friends/acquaintances who are 
looking for a relatively simple, effective and inexpensive app for scanning 
printed material. I'm not sure what its price is in the app store; the highest 
I can recall was ten bucks and I've often seen it on sale for five bucks or 
under. That gives it a very high bang-for-the-buck factor in my view. I 
wouldn't use it for heavy-duty scanning chores; that's when I use my PC. But 
for a quick and easy scan of several pages, especially for someone who can't 
shell out 100 bucks for KNFB Reader, Text Grabber's hard to beat. Go for it. 
Happy scanning!
Tom 

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> On Jun 10, 2016, at 12:07 AM, William Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I find it text grabber to be a very effective app, I use it for screening my 
> snail mail. That is, I use text grabber to check the return address on 
> envelopes that I think may be worth scanning with my computer. In fact, I 
> could scan the entire page of Bing mail message with text grabber but it's 
> usually more comfortable to use the PC.
> 
> 
> 
> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.2)
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 11:45 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi group, 2 things here…
>> 
>> 
>> I just reinstalled Image to Text.  It doesn’t seem to be working.  I try to 
>> email the results to myself and the email cannot be sent.  Any ideas?
>> 
>> Also, I’m looking for up to date feedback on Text Grabber before I purchase. 
>>  It’s strength seems to be in extracting text from images.  This is 
>> something I need pretty frequently.  What has been your experiences?  I 
>> haven’t seen a post about this app for a while.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Traci
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Re: Text Grabber & Image to Text

[William Gallik]

I find it text grabber to be a very effective app, I use it for screening my 
snail mail. That is, I use text grabber to check the return address on 
envelopes that I think may be worth scanning with my computer. In fact, I could 
scan the entire page of Bing mail message with text grabber but it's usually 
more comfortable to use the PC.



- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.2)

> On Jun 9, 2016, at 11:45 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi group, 2 things here…
> 
> 
> I just reinstalled Image to Text.  It doesn’t seem to be working.  I try to 
> email the results to myself and the email cannot be sent.  Any ideas?
> 
> Also, I’m looking for up to date feedback on Text Grabber before I purchase.  
> It’s strength seems to be in extracting text from images.  This is something 
> I need pretty frequently.  What has been your experiences?  I haven’t seen a 
> post about this app for a while.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[Sandratomkins]

Hi Eileen,
Obvious things first: are the lights on? Are you using mains or battery for the 
lights and, if the latter, do you have the 12 V battery supply? Next, 
positioning the phone is crucial! I presume you have the stickers that came 
with the stand Scan Pro, these are useful for positioning the phone correctly 
every time. I did kind of cheat with mine, I got my partner to check on the 
best position before applying the stickers. However, I know that other people 
have managed this without any sighted help. Once you have your stickers in 
place, the lights on, you should be good to go! Because I have a case that is 
easily removed, I tend to take the phone out of it for best results. Finally, 
it is also worth buying Prizmo. Sometimes, one or other of these apps has 
problems or, perhaps, a faulty update, in which case, you will have an 
alternative.

HTH and I hope you will keep us posted as to your progress,
Sandy

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 On 13 Jul 2014, at 05:00, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
 StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
 contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the 
 phone case and received the same problem of the famous error message of make 
 sure ... I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was wondering 
 if others were having the same issue. I know there is text on the item I am 
 attempting to scan, so that's not the problem. If any one has some other tips 
 for me to try, send them my way. In the mean time, I'll keep playing around 
 in positioning the camera in the aperture on top to see where the sweet spot 
 is.
 Thanks for your help in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[Sandratomkins]

Eileen,
Her Majesty's following your posts! Now I understand that something seems to 
have changed and that you are, of course, already very proficient with the OCR 
apps and the stand ScanPro. I will go in forthwith and check I had the latest 
TextGrabber update and tried out. If I have similar problems, I will let you 
know.

HRH,
Sandy PS if TextGrabber is broken We  shall not be amused!

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 On 13 Jul 2014, at 05:16, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 Of course, the lights are on in the StandScan Pro and the camera is (what I 
 think) is properly positioned in the aperture whole on the top of the 
 StandScan Pro. For one who has gotten almost a perfect scan on the first 
 attempt of each scan, this is a new behavior for me. That's why I posted. In 
 the past, the only time I received the error was if the page was blank or if 
 there was some funny font the app didn't like. There must be something 
 different about the current version. Maybe Sandy will pipe in. I nicked named 
 her the queen of OCH' 
 
 Thanks for your post.
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:05 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Make certain the camera lens is over  the hole in the top. If you do not 
 have the lights in the stand ScanPro turned on, you also need to make 
 certain the flash is in the hole as well.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 13 Jul 2014, at 16:00, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
 StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
 contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the 
 phone case and received the same problem of the famous error message of 
 make sure ... I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was 
 wondering if others were having the same issue. I know there is text on the 
 item I am attempting to scan, so that's not the problem. If any one has 
 some other tips for me to try, send them my way. In the mean time, I'll 
 keep playing around in positioning the camera in the aperture on top to see 
 where the sweet spot is.
 Thanks for your help in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[Sandratomkins]

Hello again Eileen,
Well, it seems I have the latest versions of both TextGrabber and Prizmo. I 
just put them both through their paces with the stand ScanPro and then again 
Freehand. Firstly, let me say, I find a little bit of erratic behaviour in both 
apps. Prizmo, four example, keeps bouncing me out back to the home screen. I 
emptied out my app switcher and found things improved. TextGrabber seems to be 
behaving okay here. However, particularly TextGrabber, gives me that error 
message when I take a free hand shot more often than not. By the by, I leave 
the flash on in TextGrabber. Can I suggest two things for you to try, if your 
problem with TextGrabber persists? Firstly, reset your phone, by this I mean, 
either turn off completely leave it for a bit and turn it on again or do the 
press of the home button and power button held for 10/20 seconds etc. Secondly, 
delete TextGrabber and download it again. I have experienced, with Prizmo, 
problems after a faulty download. Two other things to think about, perhaps… is 
your camera lens nice and clean? And do you have a nice  lot of space  
available on your phone for the processing process?

Good luck,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 13 Jul 2014, at 05:16, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 Of course, the lights are on in the StandScan Pro and the camera is (what I 
 think) is properly positioned in the aperture whole on the top of the 
 StandScan Pro. For one who has gotten almost a perfect scan on the first 
 attempt of each scan, this is a new behavior for me. That's why I posted. In 
 the past, the only time I received the error was if the page was blank or if 
 there was some funny font the app didn't like. There must be something 
 different about the current version. Maybe Sandy will pipe in. I nicked named 
 her the queen of OCH' 
 
 Thanks for your post.
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:05 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Make certain the camera lens is over  the hole in the top. If you do not 
 have the lights in the stand ScanPro turned on, you also need to make 
 certain the flash is in the hole as well.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 13 Jul 2014, at 16:00, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
 StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
 contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the 
 phone case and received the same problem of the famous error message of 
 make sure ... I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was 
 wondering if others were having the same issue. I know there is text on the 
 item I am attempting to scan, so that's not the problem. If any one has 
 some other tips for me to try, send them my way. In the mean time, I'll 
 keep playing around in positioning the camera in the aperture on top to see 
 where the sweet spot is.
 Thanks for your help in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Sandy,

I want to thank you again for all of your suggestions to troubleshoot this. 
After reading all of the threads, I wanted to double check and perform some 
general maintanence on the phone. 

I am using an iPhone 4 with 32 GB. The storage left on the phone is 9.6 GB, so 
there is still plenty of storage. I started only with turning off the phone 
with the power switch and then back on. 

I have one of the original StandScan Pro, so it didn't come with stickers back 
then. I used pennies at first to measure the correct position of the phone and 
camera through the aperture hole on top. My method of stickers are 3/8 inch 
clear velcro that I use for my clients. In a sense they are stickers. I do have 
a battery pack, but I usually use the AC adaptor and plug in for the best 
results. With the first version of the StandScan, I don't think the 12 volt was 
offered until later on. 

This all said above, I just tested out the StandScan Pro with Text Grabber. All 
is working like it should except when there's no text to OCR. It was you who 
inspired me to be persistent so I could perfect the ability to OCR to capture 
written materials while I was at a clients home and needed to obtain essential 
medical information. Oh by the way, I do have Prizmo and several other OCR apps 
installed on the phone, but the two that gets my votes for productivity are 
Text Grabber and Prizmo. 

Thanks again for brainstorming and getting me back up to stuff. It's happy 
scanning now 

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 13, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello again Eileen,
 Well, it seems I have the latest versions of both TextGrabber and Prizmo. I 
 just put them both through their paces with the stand ScanPro and then again 
 Freehand. Firstly, let me say, I find a little bit of erratic behaviour in 
 both apps. Prizmo, four example, keeps bouncing me out back to the home 
 screen. I emptied out my app switcher and found things improved. TextGrabber 
 seems to be behaving okay here. However, particularly TextGrabber, gives me 
 that error message when I take a free hand shot more often than not. By the 
 by, I leave the flash on in TextGrabber. Can I suggest two things for you to 
 try, if your problem with TextGrabber persists? Firstly, reset your phone, by 
 this I mean, either turn off completely leave it for a bit and turn it on 
 again or do the press of the home button and power button held for 10/20 
 seconds etc. Secondly, delete TextGrabber and download it again. I have 
 experienced, with Prizmo, problems after a faulty download. Two other things 
 to think about, perhaps… is your camera lens nice and clean? And do you have 
 a nice  lot of space  available on your phone for the processing process?
 
 Good luck,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 13 Jul 2014, at 05:16, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 Of course, the lights are on in the StandScan Pro and the camera is (what I 
 think) is properly positioned in the aperture whole on the top of the 
 StandScan Pro. For one who has gotten almost a perfect scan on the first 
 attempt of each scan, this is a new behavior for me. That's why I posted. In 
 the past, the only time I received the error was if the page was blank or if 
 there was some funny font the app didn't like. There must be something 
 different about the current version. Maybe Sandy will pipe in. I nicked 
 named her the queen of OCH' 
 
 Thanks for your post.
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:05 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Make certain the camera lens is over  the hole in the top. If you do not 
 have the lights in the stand ScanPro turned on, you also need to make 
 certain the flash is in the hole as well.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 13 Jul 2014, at 16:00, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
 StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
 contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the 
 phone case and received the same problem of the famous error message of 
 make sure ... I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was 
 wondering if others were having the same issue. I know there is text on 
 the item I am attempting to scan, so that's not the problem. If any one 
 has some other tips for me to try, send them my way. In the mean time, 
 I'll keep playing around in positioning the camera in the aperture on top 
 to see where the sweet spot is.
 Thanks for your help in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[David Chittenden]

Make certain the camera lens is over  the hole in the top. If you do not have 
the lights in the stand ScanPro turned on, you also need to make certain the 
flash is in the hole as well.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 13 Jul 2014, at 16:00, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
 StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
 contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the 
 phone case and received the same problem of the famous error message of make 
 sure ... I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was wondering 
 if others were having the same issue. I know there is text on the item I am 
 attempting to scan, so that's not the problem. If any one has some other tips 
 for me to try, send them my way. In the mean time, I'll keep playing around 
 in positioning the camera in the aperture on top to see where the sweet spot 
 is.
 Thanks for your help in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello David,

Of course, the lights are on in the StandScan Pro and the camera is (what I 
think) is properly positioned in the aperture whole on the top of the StandScan 
Pro. For one who has gotten almost a perfect scan on the first attempt of each 
scan, this is a new behavior for me. That's why I posted. In the past, the only 
time I received the error was if the page was blank or if there was some funny 
font the app didn't like. There must be something different about the current 
version. Maybe Sandy will pipe in. I nicked named her the queen of OCH' 

Thanks for your post.

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:05 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Make certain the camera lens is over  the hole in the top. If you do not have 
 the lights in the stand ScanPro turned on, you also need to make certain the 
 flash is in the hole as well.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 13 Jul 2014, at 16:00, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
 StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
 contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the 
 phone case and received the same problem of the famous error message of make 
 sure ... I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was 
 wondering if others were having the same issue. I know there is text on the 
 item I am attempting to scan, so that's not the problem. If any one has some 
 other tips for me to try, send them my way. In the mean time, I'll keep 
 playing around in positioning the camera in the aperture on top to see where 
 the sweet spot is.
 Thanks for your help in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
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RE: Text Grabber Back On Sale

[DJ]

This is a very nice app for OCR purposes.  I highly recommend it for those
who frequently scan mail and other printed matterials.

DJ


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Subject: Text Grabber Back On Sale

HELLO All,

Looking through Store News and saw that Text Grabber and Thanslator is
back on sale again. The price is 1.99 instead of 5.99. Here's the link: 

http://link.store-news-app.com/2.0/?itunes=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2F
us%2Fapp%2Ftextgrabber-%2B-translator-recognize%2Fid438475005%3Fmt%3D8store
ID=1 

This is a savings of 67'%. This app works well with the StandScan Pro. Happy
scanning.

Best,
Eileen


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Re: Text Grabber On Sale

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

What is text Grabber?   is that like a scanner that reads a typed Doc or 
does it just take the text off of a pdf or something.  Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Eileens Misrahi

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text Grabber On Sale

Hello All,

Just browsing the Store News app. Text Grabber is on sale for $1.99. It's 
usually $5.99. Here's the URL:


http://link.store-news-app.com/2.0/?itunes=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Ftextgrabber-%2B-translator%2Fid438475005%3Fmt%3D8storeID=1

I hope some will be able to add this app.

Cheers,
Eileen


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Re: Text Grabber On Sale

[Feliciano G]

Text ocr. Look up the application on the app store to get more information.

Sent from the Super-iPhone

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 What is text Grabber?   is that like a scanner that reads a typed Doc or does 
 it just take the text off of a pdf or something.  Andy
 
 -Original Message- From: Eileens Misrahi
 Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 7:52 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Text Grabber On Sale
 
 Hello All,
 
 Just browsing the Store News app. Text Grabber is on sale for $1.99. It's 
 usually $5.99. Here's the URL:
 
 http://link.store-news-app.com/2.0/?itunes=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Ftextgrabber-%2B-translator%2Fid438475005%3Fmt%3D8storeID=1
 
 I hope some will be able to add this app.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Text Grabber On Sale

[Kay Malmquist]

Okay, here I go again. What is the store news app? Should I be watching it or 
using it? Thanks for any help.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 30, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 Just browsing the Store News app. Text Grabber is on sale for $1.99. It's 
 usually $5.99. Here's the URL:
 
 http://link.store-news-app.com/2.0/?itunes=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Ftextgrabber-%2B-translator%2Fid438475005%3Fmt%3D8storeID=1
 
 I hope some will be able to add this app. 
 
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Re: Text Grabber On Sale

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, 

The Store News app will breakdown into different categories that are listed in 
the app store. In each category, it indicates free apps, as well as apps that 
have been reduced. It's a way to find all sorts of things that one would like 
to purchase for their iPhone or iPad. I use to open the app on a daily basis, 
but now I am lucky to review the categories for new apps maybe once a week. The 
app is free to download. 

Eileen 
On Dec 30, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, here I go again. What is the store news app? Should I be watching it or 
 using it? Thanks for any help.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 30, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Eileen's Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 Just browsing the Store News app. Text Grabber is on sale for $1.99. It's 
 usually $5.99. Here's the URL:
 
 http://link.store-news-app.com/2.0/?itunes=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Ftextgrabber-%2B-translator%2Fid438475005%3Fmt%3D8storeID=1
 
 I hope some will be able to add this app. 
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen 
 
 
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Re: Text Grabber On Sale

[Kay Malmquist]

Thanks for this.  I'll check it out.  Take care.
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From: Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: Text Grabber On Sale


Hi,

The Store News app will breakdown into different categories that are listed 
in the app store. In each category, it indicates free apps, as well as apps 
that have been reduced. It's a way to find all sorts of things that one 
would like to purchase for their iPhone or iPad. I use to open the app on a 
daily basis, but now I am lucky to review the categories for new apps maybe 
once a week. The app is free to download.

Eileen
On Dec 30, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, here I go again. What is the store news app? Should I be watching it 
 or using it? Thanks for any help.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 30, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Eileen's Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Hello All,

 Just browsing the Store News app. Text Grabber is on sale for $1.99. It's 
 usually $5.99. Here's the URL:

 http://link.store-news-app.com/2.0/?itunes=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Ftextgrabber-%2B-translator%2Fid438475005%3Fmt%3D8storeID=1

 I hope some will be able to add this app.

 Cheers,
 Eileen


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Re: Text Grabber: Is it broken?

[Chuck Dean]

Yes, when you're in the share menu area, the closes the menu button does not 
work with voice over on.

In the history area, to delete items, to the left of each item is a checkbox. 
Double tap each item to engage the check. You can check as many items as you 
want. Once you have selected the items you want to delete and go to the bottom 
and hit the delete button. This way you can do multiple deletes.

Chuck (mobile)
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On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Folks,
 
 This is the first time I am using Text Grabber after the last update. At 
 first, I thought nothing had changed until I opened the menu button for 
 sharing and the history to delete the current scans. Here is what I found and 
 I was wondering if others had a similar experience:
 
 1. When opening a button labeled menu, the options to share on tweeter, 
 Facebook, mail, and etc., the only way I could tap on the close menu was to 
 do a triple click to turn off VO, perform the tap gesture and then turn VO 
 back on. This did the trick, but less aessible.
 
 2. in the history, in order to delete a recently scanned OCR, the edit button 
 is tapped on, the delete button is located to the left (swipe) of the scanned 
 title. Once the delete button is tapped on, VO doesn't announce to confirm 
 the deletion button. Instead, there is another delete button above the home 
 button. That said and tapped on will bring one out of this page and the edit 
 button will need to be tapped on to begin the process all over. Hence, one 
 can't continue directly from this interface to perform multiple deletions. 
 
 I was wondering if others have seen this behavior with Text Grabber. I'm not 
 sure if my experiences are related to an older iPhone 4. I will drop the 
 developers an email concerning my finding and will report back. I use this 
 app extensively with my StandScan Pro for OCR. 
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Text Grabber: Is it broken?

[Chuck Dean]

One thing you can do when you were in the share menu, is use the copy command 
which will close the menu. Unfortunately, this will also put the text on your 
clipboard, but if you're not using the clipboard it should be okay.

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On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Folks,
 
 This is the first time I am using Text Grabber after the last update. At 
 first, I thought nothing had changed until I opened the menu button for 
 sharing and the history to delete the current scans. Here is what I found and 
 I was wondering if others had a similar experience:
 
 1. When opening a button labeled menu, the options to share on tweeter, 
 Facebook, mail, and etc., the only way I could tap on the close menu was to 
 do a triple click to turn off VO, perform the tap gesture and then turn VO 
 back on. This did the trick, but less aessible.
 
 2. in the history, in order to delete a recently scanned OCR, the edit button 
 is tapped on, the delete button is located to the left (swipe) of the scanned 
 title. Once the delete button is tapped on, VO doesn't announce to confirm 
 the deletion button. Instead, there is another delete button above the home 
 button. That said and tapped on will bring one out of this page and the edit 
 button will need to be tapped on to begin the process all over. Hence, one 
 can't continue directly from this interface to perform multiple deletions. 
 
 I was wondering if others have seen this behavior with Text Grabber. I'm not 
 sure if my experiences are related to an older iPhone 4. I will drop the 
 developers an email concerning my finding and will report back. I use this 
 app extensively with my StandScan Pro for OCR. 
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Text Grabber: Is it broken?

[Eileens Misrahi]

hi Chuck,

When I was in the history menu, and flicked left, I didn't hear VO announce a 
checkbox. Is this just a given and that we are suppose to assume this? I will 
check this out a little later when I have some time. Thanks for pointing this 
out. Oh by the way, I use my clipboard fairly frequently with MBraille, so I 
don't want to make an error to close out Text Grabber that way. 

Thanks.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:

 One thing you can do when you were in the share menu, is use the copy command 
 which will close the menu. Unfortunately, this will also put the text on your 
 clipboard, but if you're not using the clipboard it should be okay.
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Folks,
 
 This is the first time I am using Text Grabber after the last update. At 
 first, I thought nothing had changed until I opened the menu button for 
 sharing and the history to delete the current scans. Here is what I found 
 and I was wondering if others had a similar experience:
 
 1. When opening a button labeled menu, the options to share on tweeter, 
 Facebook, mail, and etc., the only way I could tap on the close menu was to 
 do a triple click to turn off VO, perform the tap gesture and then turn VO 
 back on. This did the trick, but less aessible.
 
 2. in the history, in order to delete a recently scanned OCR, the edit 
 button is tapped on, the delete button is located to the left (swipe) of the 
 scanned title. Once the delete button is tapped on, VO doesn't announce to 
 confirm the deletion button. Instead, there is another delete button above 
 the home button. That said and tapped on will bring one out of this page and 
 the edit button will need to be tapped on to begin the process all over. 
 Hence, one can't continue directly from this interface to perform multiple 
 deletions. 
 
 I was wondering if others have seen this behavior with Text Grabber. I'm not 
 sure if my experiences are related to an older iPhone 4. I will drop the 
 developers an email concerning my finding and will report back. I use this 
 app extensively with my StandScan Pro for OCR. 
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Text Grabber: Is it broken?

[Chuck Dean]

I just tried this this is what happened. I went  to history, and then went to 
edit.  I flick right and got the following message. Delete September 16, then 
the title of the document then switch button off. I double tap the screen which 
 put a checkmark in the box. And then I can delete it by hitting the delete 
button at the bottom of the screen.

The problem is, if you flick right again it really doesn't tell you what's 
happening. It is a better system because you can do and multiple document 
delete, but it needs some work with voiceover. I think you and I should both 
right to TextGrabber and tell them our problems.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 16, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi Chuck,
 
 When I was in the history menu, and flicked left, I didn't hear VO announce a 
 checkbox. Is this just a given and that we are suppose to assume this? I will 
 check this out a little later when I have some time. Thanks for pointing this 
 out. Oh by the way, I use my clipboard fairly frequently with MBraille, so I 
 don't want to make an error to close out Text Grabber that way. 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 One thing you can do when you were in the share menu, is use the copy 
 command which will close the menu. Unfortunately, this will also put the 
 text on your clipboard, but if you're not using the clipboard it should be 
 okay.
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Folks,
 
 This is the first time I am using Text Grabber after the last update. At 
 first, I thought nothing had changed until I opened the menu button for 
 sharing and the history to delete the current scans. Here is what I found 
 and I was wondering if others had a similar experience:
 
 1. When opening a button labeled menu, the options to share on tweeter, 
 Facebook, mail, and etc., the only way I could tap on the close menu was to 
 do a triple click to turn off VO, perform the tap gesture and then turn VO 
 back on. This did the trick, but less aessible.
 
 2. in the history, in order to delete a recently scanned OCR, the edit 
 button is tapped on, the delete button is located to the left (swipe) of 
 the scanned title. Once the delete button is tapped on, VO doesn't announce 
 to confirm the deletion button. Instead, there is another delete button 
 above the home button. That said and tapped on will bring one out of this 
 page and the edit button will need to be tapped on to begin the process all 
 over. Hence, one can't continue directly from this interface to perform 
 multiple deletions. 
 
 I was wondering if others have seen this behavior with Text Grabber. I'm 
 not sure if my experiences are related to an older iPhone 4. I will drop 
 the developers an email concerning my finding and will report back. I use 
 this app extensively with my StandScan Pro for OCR. 
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Text Grabber: Is it broken?

[Eileens Misrahi]

 hello Chuck,

Thanks for confirming this. In the morning when I have a clear head, I will 
compose an email to the developers. At first, I thought I was missing something 
in the history menu, but I guess not if you are getting something similar to my 
observation. In the previous version, you didn't have the option to select more 
than one scan, but the delete button was there with a confirmation screen that 
followed it. Well, I haven't decided if I will place this on my roll back app 
list until it is fixed. The list is starting to grow quickly. Unfortunately, 
the update description before pressing that button didn't state if there were 
any UI enhancements. I guess we all live and learn.

I'll take care of this tomorrow.

Cheers,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:

 I just tried this this is what happened. I went  to history, and then went to 
 edit.  I flick right and got the following message. Delete September 16, then 
 the title of the document then switch button off. I double tap the screen 
 which  put a checkmark in the box. And then I can delete it by hitting the 
 delete button at the bottom of the screen.
 
 The problem is, if you flick right again it really doesn't tell you what's 
 happening. It is a better system because you can do and multiple document 
 delete, but it needs some work with voiceover. I think you and I should both 
 right to TextGrabber and tell them our problems.
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi Chuck,
 
 When I was in the history menu, and flicked left, I didn't hear VO announce 
 a checkbox. Is this just a given and that we are suppose to assume this? I 
 will check this out a little later when I have some time. Thanks for 
 pointing this out. Oh by the way, I use my clipboard fairly frequently with 
 MBraille, so I don't want to make an error to close out Text Grabber that 
 way. 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 One thing you can do when you were in the share menu, is use the copy 
 command which will close the menu. Unfortunately, this will also put the 
 text on your clipboard, but if you're not using the clipboard it should be 
 okay.
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Folks,
 
 This is the first time I am using Text Grabber after the last update. At 
 first, I thought nothing had changed until I opened the menu button for 
 sharing and the history to delete the current scans. Here is what I found 
 and I was wondering if others had a similar experience:
 
 1. When opening a button labeled menu, the options to share on tweeter, 
 Facebook, mail, and etc., the only way I could tap on the close menu was 
 to do a triple click to turn off VO, perform the tap gesture and then turn 
 VO back on. This did the trick, but less aessible.
 
 2. in the history, in order to delete a recently scanned OCR, the edit 
 button is tapped on, the delete button is located to the left (swipe) of 
 the scanned title. Once the delete button is tapped on, VO doesn't 
 announce to confirm the deletion button. Instead, there is another delete 
 button above the home button. That said and tapped on will bring one out 
 of this page and the edit button will need to be tapped on to begin the 
 process all over. Hence, one can't continue directly from this interface 
 to perform multiple deletions. 
 
 I was wondering if others have seen this behavior with Text Grabber. I'm 
 not sure if my experiences are related to an older iPhone 4. I will drop 
 the developers an email concerning my finding and will report back. I use 
 this app extensively with my StandScan Pro for OCR. 
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: text grabber Prismo question

[Alan Paganelli]

Joan, I believe text grabber only does a page at a time but it does let you 
edit the text to fix errors.  I don't believe you can save the file and then 
add to it later.


HTH
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:29 PM
Subject: text grabber  Prismo question



Hi all,

Just wondering, have anyone of you listers use any of the  ocr app for 
multi page scan?

I'm not talking about few pages, but i'm talking more like a book or such.
If so, do yu know if text grabber can do it and save as one file?

Thanks

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RE: text grabber Prismo question

[DJ]

Text Grabber  does let you copy the text to the clipboard for use in other
apps.

DJ


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Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: text grabber  Prismo question

Joan, I believe text grabber only does a page at a time but it does let you 
edit the text to fix errors.  I don't believe you can save the file and then

add to it later.

HTH
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Regards,

Alan

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- Original Message - 
From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:29 PM
Subject: text grabber  Prismo question


 Hi all,

 Just wondering, have anyone of you listers use any of the  ocr app for 
 multi page scan?
 I'm not talking about few pages, but i'm talking more like a book or such.
 If so, do yu know if text grabber can do it and save as one file?

 Thanks

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Re: text grabber Prismo question

[Chuck Dean]

I have not found any way to do this with TextGrabber. I wish it had this 
ability, as it is the only thing lacking with this app.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering, have anyone of you listers use any of the  ocr app for multi 
 page scan?
 I'm not talking about few pages, but i'm talking more like a book or such.
 If so, do yu know if text grabber can do it and save as one file?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Text Grabber Prizmo

[David Chittenden]

The best way to find out current cost for any app is to open the App Store, 
double-tap on search on the bottom, double-tap on the edit field at the top, 
type the name of the app, and double-tap search in the lower right corner of 
the keyboard, or press the return/enter key on the bluetooth keyboard. The 
price that appears is the current price of the app.

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On 08/07/2013, at 14:09, Donnie Parrett deparr...@prtcnet.org wrote:

 How much do these apps cost for an IPhone 4s?  What I would use one the most
 for is when I get mail out of our mail box.  I used to have a scanner hooked
 to my computer and all I had to do was scan the letter, save it to my
 computer, and then I could have JAWS read it to me.  I can't seem to do that
 with the new scanner I have, so if I could get something on my phone to do
 that, it would be absolutely awesome.  Which one of these apps do you think
 would be best for what I need it for?
 
 
 
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RE: text grabber and prizmo

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Larry,

 

I haven't used Prizmo or Text Grabber for rounded labels, but I find that
another fantastic app and one I use almost more than Tap Tap See now is
Talking Goggles. It has a video mode which means it continuously recognizes
things as you move it and it will do short bits of OCR. I have used it very
successfully on cans or medication bottles.

 

As for QR codes, here is what Wikipedia says followed by the link to the
full Wikipedia article:

 

QR code (abbreviated from Quick Response Code) is the trademark for a type
of matrix barcode (or two-dimensional barcode) first designed for the
automotive industry in Japan. A barcode is an optically machine-readable
label that is attached to an item and that records information related to
that item.

The information encoded by a QR code may be made up of four standardized
types (modes) of data (numeric, alphanumeric, byte / binary, Kanji) or,
through supported extensions, virtually any type of data.

The QR Code system has become popular outside the automotive industry due to
its fast readability and greater storage capacity compared to standard UPC
barcodes. Applications include product tracking, item identification, time
tracking, document management, general marketing, and much more.

A QR code consists of black modules (square dots) arranged in a square grid
on a white background, which can be read by an imaging device (such as a
camera) and processed using Reed-Solomon error correction until the image
can be appropriately interpreted; data is then extracted from patterns
present in both horizontal and vertical components of the image.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: text grabber and prizmo

 

I was reading on the app store site and it seemed that the newest release of
prizmo was a step backward and got a very negative review.  Now to a
question.  Will either TextGrabber or Prizmo recognize text on rounded
objects like cans or bottles.  Also, In looking at camfind, reference was
made to qr codes.  I know bar codes but what are qr codes?  Again, thanks
for all the great info.

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RE: text grabber versus text detective

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Larry,

Both of these are OCR apps, another popular one is Prizmo. Text Detective
apparently doesn't recognize an entire page in portrait mode and most people
on the list prefer Prizmo and/or Text Grabber.

You can find reviews for many of these apps on http://www.applevis.com.

Here are the app store links for Prizmo, Text Grabber and Text Detective:

Prizmo:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/prizmo-scanning-ocr-speech/id366791896?mt=8
Text Grabber:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textgrabber-+-translator/id438475005?mt=8
Text Detective:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textdetective/id541494875?mt=8

By the way and to use Prizmo as an example, it is super easy to find these
app store descriptions, just do a google search for the following:

Prizmo on iTunes

Then if you are using Jaws or another screenreader with quick navigation, go
to the top of the screen, then type 2 for heading level 2 followed by 3
for heading level 3. This takes you to the first search result and I don't
think I ever came across a case where the first search result wasn't the
iTunes app store page for the app I was looking for. Once you press enter
and the page loads, use 1 for heading level 1 or simply h for heading to
find where the description starts. This is just as easy and quick as to
write a message asking about what a particular app does, you usually get a
better, more complete answer and you can read the description, see the price
and read reviews all at the same time.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: text grabber versus text detective

what do text grabber and text deetective do?  What are the differences?
Thanks

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Re: What other scanning apps? was: Hi,Re: text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale

[Joanne Chua]

Hi Esther,

Thanks very much for the detail email. That help. looks like Prizmo it
is then. :)

Cheers

On 08/06/2013, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 Joanna asked about CamScan, which David identified as being an inaccessible

 app, but in fact, the app that was recommended on the ScanBox Kickstarter
 page is not CamScan, but CamScanner+. This app also has a free, lite
 version. It is partly accessible, in that a number of the controls can be
 used with VoiceOver, but many of the processing buttons are just labeled as

 button.  In addition, the layout of this app is more like the arrangement

 of Prizmo before the last version update in terms of the number elements to

 navigate through.  Unlike Prizmo and TextGrabber, but similar to many OCR
 apps, including Text Detective, you must have your text in the proper
 orientation in order for the OCR to work. So if you do not have vision, you

 will have to try rotating the image that was taken, either with the
 processing control buttons in the app, or by taking another picture, and
 then reprocessing the image.

 Please understand that the features that make a a good scanning/OCR app for

 sighted users may be different from the ones viphone list members would
 prioritize.  CamScanner+ uses OCR to create searchable PDF files.  For many

 users, the image format of a document is the primary format they will use,
 and they only want it to be a searchable PDF -- meaning that they can type
 in some words in the document to pull up the image file.  For many
 purposes, like travel receipts for business purposes, they have to submit
 an actual image of the document.

 In any case, CamScanner+ is optimized to provide searchable PDFs with the
 OCR (a feature that Prizmo also has), and to optimize the automatic
 adjustment of color and background of scanned documents to make the images
 more readable.  It is not designed to optimize providing a text version of
 the material.

 I suspect that we have all tried other scanning apps. Some that have been
 used and discussed on list include Perfect OCR and Say Text.  Some that
 were suggested but addressed as to why they are not suitable for visually
 impaired users, although they receive good ratings by sighted users include

 Genius Scan.  You can search the archives for other examples.  The apps
 that are most discussed and recommended on list are usually the result of
 having tried (many) other app options that do not work well.  A large
 number (if not most) scanner apps for the iPhone require interactive
 adjustment of the image area, which blind users cannot perform


 HTH. Cheers,

 Esther


 On Friday, June 7, 2013 10:00:36 AM UTC-10, David Chittenden wrote:

 CamScan has a free version. I tested it last year and it was not
 accessible. I just downloaded and tested it again, and it is still not
 accessible with VoiceOver. When VO is running, none of the buttons appear

 to activate, even when using a double-tap and hold pass through gesture.
 As
 there are a few accessible alternatives which work quite well, I did not
 try turning VO off to activate any buttons followed by turning VO back on.

 Also, it could be that the ads on the free version may be causing the
 unresponsiveness. However, as there are accessible alternatives, I am
 currently not willing to purchase one of the two alternatives which cost.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchit...@gmail.com javascript:
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 07/06/2013, at 10:11, Joanne Chua shuang...@gmail.com javascript:
 wrote:


 What other apps people have been using beside the ordinary Prizmo or Text

 Grabber or Text Detective?

 Anyone uses CamScann?

 It is one of the app suggest by scanbox.

 Regards
 Joanne (AU)

 Joanne Chua
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate.

 On 07/06/2013, at 4:12, Chuck Dean chuc...@icloud.com javascript:
 wrote:

 I like the simplicity of Text grabber. After the initial setup, I position

 my phone, do a double tap on the screen, wait a few moments and I have
 readable text.
 BTW, I think I paid ten dollars for this app, and it is worth every penny

 to me.

 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors.

 On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Sandratomkins
 sandra...@googlemail.comjavascript:
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Although I do have Text Detective, I haven't played with it very much,

 but I am well acquainted with Text Grabber and, for that matter, Prizmo. I

 think the main reason I never bothered too much with Text Detective was
 that because one has to position the phone across the page, you can only
 capture a fragment of the text at a time. Many people, I know, have found

 Text Detective to be more user friendly than the other OCR apps, and so,
 if
 you only need to get a bit of info from your text, then, maybe, this is
 the
 app for you, but if you want to be able to scan the whole sheet at once,
 then Text Grabber and prizmo are your apps.

 Seeing as Text Grabber is on sale, I would seriously 

Re: text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale

[Alan Paganelli]

I like the fact that you can easily edit the text to correct any errors if you 
intend on saving the scanned document.  On the other hand, if it's just a pizza 
menu from the local pizza joint you might leave it as is but at least the 
choice is yours.  I should say too that this is my first OCR program but I was 
impressed with it not to mention I grabbed it awhile back when it was free for 
a day.  Now I see it's 10 bucks.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Malver 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 10:59 AM
  Subject: text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale


  What makes text grabber different than, or better than, text detective?

  Thanks

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Ferrara
  Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: text grabber sale

   

  Text Grabber is still on sale for $1.99 today; now is the time to grab it.

   

  Paul

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Re: What other scanning apps? was: Hi,Re: text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale

[David Chittenden]

CamScan has a free version. I tested it last year and it was not accessible. I 
just downloaded and tested it again, and it is still not accessible with 
VoiceOver. When VO is running, none of the buttons appear to activate, even 
when using a double-tap and hold pass through gesture. As there are a few 
accessible alternatives which work quite well, I did not try turning VO off to 
activate any buttons followed by turning VO back on. Also, it could be that the 
ads on the free version may be causing the unresponsiveness. However, as there 
are accessible alternatives, I am currently not willing to purchase one of the 
two alternatives which cost.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 07/06/2013, at 10:11, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 What other apps people have been using beside the ordinary Prizmo or Text 
 Grabber or Text Detective?
 
 Anyone uses CamScann?
 
 It is one of the app suggest by scanbox.
 
 Regards 
 Joanne (AU)
 
 Joanne Chua
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate.
 
 On 07/06/2013, at 4:12, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I like the simplicity of Text grabber. After the initial setup, I position 
 my phone, do a double tap on the screen, wait a few moments and I have 
 readable text. 
 BTW, I think I paid ten dollars for this app, and it is worth every penny to 
 me. 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 
 
 On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Although I do have Text Detective, I haven't played with it very much, 
 but I am well acquainted with Text Grabber and, for that matter, Prizmo. I 
 think the main reason I never bothered too much with Text Detective was 
 that because one has to position the phone across the page, you can only 
 capture a fragment of the text at a time. Many people, I know, have found 
 Text Detective to be more user friendly than the other OCR apps, and so, if 
 you only need to get a bit of info from your text, then, maybe, this is the 
 app for you, but if you want to be able to scan the whole sheet at once, 
 then Text Grabber and prizmo are your apps.
 
 Seeing as Text Grabber is on sale, I would seriously recommend getting 
 it, especially if you also are considering getting a STandScan Pro.
 
 Good luck and happy scanning,
 Sandy. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 6 Jun 2013, at 18:59, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What makes text grabber different than, or better than, text detective?
 Thanks
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Paul Ferrara
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:54 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: text grabber sale
  
 Text Grabber is still on sale for $1.99 today; now is the time to “grab” 
 it.
  
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Re: text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale

[David Chittenden]

Text Grabber is an OCR app like Text Detective. For Text Grabber to really work 
properly, you really want to use the StandScan Pro device. Prizmo is another 
OCR app. The developers of Prizmo have recently added page aligning features 
for people with visual disabilities.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 07/06/2013, at 12:26, Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:

 What exactly is text grabber? I bought text detective and I can use it but 
 its not easy, I know it probably has to do with the fact that I need to 
 practice and its definitely doable, but what is text grabber?
 
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Re: What other scanning apps? was: Hi,Re: text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale

[Esther]

Joanna asked about CamScan, which David identified as being an inaccessible 
app, but in fact, the app that was recommended on the ScanBox Kickstarter 
page is not CamScan, but CamScanner+. This app also has a free, lite 
version. It is partly accessible, in that a number of the controls can be 
used with VoiceOver, but many of the processing buttons are just labeled as 
button.  In addition, the layout of this app is more like the arrangement 
of Prizmo before the last version update in terms of the number elements to 
navigate through.  Unlike Prizmo and TextGrabber, but similar to many OCR 
apps, including Text Detective, you must have your text in the proper 
orientation in order for the OCR to work. So if you do not have vision, you 
will have to try rotating the image that was taken, either with the 
processing control buttons in the app, or by taking another picture, and 
then reprocessing the image.  

Please understand that the features that make a a good scanning/OCR app for 
sighted users may be different from the ones viphone list members would 
prioritize.  CamScanner+ uses OCR to create searchable PDF files.  For many 
users, the image format of a document is the primary format they will use, 
and they only want it to be a searchable PDF -- meaning that they can type 
in some words in the document to pull up the image file.  For many 
purposes, like travel receipts for business purposes, they have to submit 
an actual image of the document.

In any case, CamScanner+ is optimized to provide searchable PDFs with the 
OCR (a feature that Prizmo also has), and to optimize the automatic 
adjustment of color and background of scanned documents to make the images 
more readable.  It is not designed to optimize providing a text version of 
the material.

I suspect that we have all tried other scanning apps. Some that have been 
used and discussed on list include Perfect OCR and Say Text.  Some that 
were suggested but addressed as to why they are not suitable for visually 
impaired users, although they receive good ratings by sighted users include 
Genius Scan.  You can search the archives for other examples.  The apps 
that are most discussed and recommended on list are usually the result of 
having tried (many) other app options that do not work well.  A large 
number (if not most) scanner apps for the iPhone require interactive 
adjustment of the image area, which blind users cannot perform


HTH. Cheers,

Esther


On Friday, June 7, 2013 10:00:36 AM UTC-10, David Chittenden wrote:

 CamScan has a free version. I tested it last year and it was not 
 accessible. I just downloaded and tested it again, and it is still not 
 accessible with VoiceOver. When VO is running, none of the buttons appear 
 to activate, even when using a double-tap and hold pass through gesture. As 
 there are a few accessible alternatives which work quite well, I did not 
 try turning VO off to activate any buttons followed by turning VO back on. 
 Also, it could be that the ads on the free version may be causing the 
 unresponsiveness. However, as there are accessible alternatives, I am 
 currently not willing to purchase one of the two alternatives which cost.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchit...@gmail.com javascript:
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 07/06/2013, at 10:11, Joanne Chua shuang...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:


 What other apps people have been using beside the ordinary Prizmo or Text 
 Grabber or Text Detective?

 Anyone uses CamScann?

 It is one of the app suggest by scanbox.

 Regards 
 Joanne (AU)

 Joanne Chua
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate.

 On 07/06/2013, at 4:12, Chuck Dean chuc...@icloud.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I like the simplicity of Text grabber. After the initial setup, I position 
 my phone, do a double tap on the screen, wait a few moments and I have 
 readable text. 
 BTW, I think I paid ten dollars for this app, and it is worth every penny 
 to me. 

 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 

 On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Sandratomkins 
 sandra...@googlemail.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Although I do have Text Detective, I haven't played with it very much, 
 but I am well acquainted with Text Grabber and, for that matter, Prizmo. I 
 think the main reason I never bothered too much with Text Detective was 
 that because one has to position the phone across the page, you can only 
 capture a fragment of the text at a time. Many people, I know, have found 
 Text Detective to be more user friendly than the other OCR apps, and so, if 
 you only need to get a bit of info from your text, then, maybe, this is the 
 app for you, but if you want to be able to scan the whole sheet at once, 
 then Text Grabber and prizmo are your apps.

 Seeing as Text Grabber is on sale, I would seriously recommend getting 
 it, especially if you also are considering getting a STandScan Pro.

 Good luck and happy scanning,
 Sandy. 

 Sent 

text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale

[Michael Malver]

What makes text grabber different than, or better than, text detective?

Thanks

 

 

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Text Grabber is still on sale for $1.99 today; now is the time to grab it.

 

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[Sandratomkins]

Hi,

Although I do have Text Detective, I haven't played with it very much, but 
I am well acquainted with Text Grabber and, for that matter, Prizmo. I think 
the main reason I never bothered too much with Text Detective was that because 
one has to position the phone across the page, you can only capture a fragment 
of the text at a time. Many people, I know, have found Text Detective to be 
more user friendly than the other OCR apps, and so, if you only need to get a 
bit of info from your text, then, maybe, this is the app for you, but if you 
want to be able to scan the whole sheet at once, then Text Grabber and prizmo 
are your apps.

Seeing as Text Grabber is on sale, I would seriously recommend getting it, 
especially if you also are considering getting a STandScan Pro.

Good luck and happy scanning,
Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale

[Chuck Dean]

I like the simplicity of Text grabber. After the initial setup, I position my 
phone, do a double tap on the screen, wait a few moments and I have readable 
text. 
BTW, I think I paid ten dollars for this app, and it is worth every penny to 
me. 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 

On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Although I do have Text Detective, I haven't played with it very much, 
 but I am well acquainted with Text Grabber and, for that matter, Prizmo. I 
 think the main reason I never bothered too much with Text Detective was that 
 because one has to position the phone across the page, you can only capture a 
 fragment of the text at a time. Many people, I know, have found Text 
 Detective to be more user friendly than the other OCR apps, and so, if you 
 only need to get a bit of info from your text, then, maybe, this is the app 
 for you, but if you want to be able to scan the whole sheet at once, then 
 Text Grabber and prizmo are your apps.
 
 Seeing as Text Grabber is on sale, I would seriously recommend getting 
 it, especially if you also are considering getting a STandScan Pro.
 
 Good luck and happy scanning,
 Sandy. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 6 Jun 2013, at 18:59, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What makes text grabber different than, or better than, text detective?
 Thanks
  
  
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What other scanning apps? was: Hi,Re: text detective and text grabber was: RE: text grabber sale

[Joanne Chua]

What other apps people have been using beside the ordinary Prizmo or Text 
Grabber or Text Detective?

Anyone uses CamScann?

It is one of the app suggest by scanbox.

Regards 
Joanne (AU)

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On 07/06/2013, at 4:12, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:

 I like the simplicity of Text grabber. After the initial setup, I position my 
 phone, do a double tap on the screen, wait a few moments and I have readable 
 text. 
 BTW, I think I paid ten dollars for this app, and it is worth every penny to 
 me. 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 
 
 On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Although I do have Text Detective, I haven't played with it very much, 
 but I am well acquainted with Text Grabber and, for that matter, Prizmo. I 
 think the main reason I never bothered too much with Text Detective was that 
 because one has to position the phone across the page, you can only capture 
 a fragment of the text at a time. Many people, I know, have found Text 
 Detective to be more user friendly than the other OCR apps, and so, if you 
 only need to get a bit of info from your text, then, maybe, this is the app 
 for you, but if you want to be able to scan the whole sheet at once, then 
 Text Grabber and prizmo are your apps.
 
 Seeing as Text Grabber is on sale, I would seriously recommend getting 
 it, especially if you also are considering getting a STandScan Pro.
 
 Good luck and happy scanning,
 Sandy. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 6 Jun 2013, at 18:59, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What makes text grabber different than, or better than, text detective?
 Thanks
  
  
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What exactly is text grabber? I bought text detective and I can use it 
but its not easy, I know it probably has to do with the fact that I 
need to practice and its definitely doable, but what is text grabber?


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Re: Text grabber

[Mario Barbuto]

  Ciao Sandy,

unfortunately, I must confirm the Gabriel's comment.
The quality level of translation is not 
acceptable. I even doubt it could give the sense of the original text.
All the words are litterally translated without 
paying attention to the context where they are part of.
Some verbs are translated at the infinitive form 
that in italian language sounds different than 
the right one, while some expressions, despite 
they are very simple, are translated in a wrong way, such as

little bells clang against the door
translated
a poco campane fragore contro la porta
something like
a few bells clang against the door
or something similar.
Summarizing, this translation sounds very similar 
to others coming from many automatic translators.

Even myself, in spite of my very poor english, I guess I'd have better done.

Thank you very much indeed, for your precious 
work of testing, comparing, informing all of us.

Don't hesitate if you need further help for italian language.

Warmly,

Mario.



At 13.32 19/05/2013, you wrote:

Hi Shoshana,

I don't know if this is going to work, and 
we may need to rely upon a native Italian 
speaker to discover just how good the 
translation functionality really is. Obviously, 
how good the translator in Text Grabber may 
vary from language to language, but I have a 
little Italian, so I am starting there.


What I have done is scan a short page from 
The Time Traveller's Wife (though, it seems 
that you can enter text of your choice, not 
sure about that yet) I then copied that scanned 
text and will paste it at the bottom of this 
message. I intend, then, to translate same, 
using Text Grabber, into Italian, and hope to 
append it to the first english copy below. 
Perhaps, someone with good Italian can comment 
on the validity of the translation? 
Unfortunately, the scan is not absolutely 
perfect, but this might often be the case, so par for the course!


Sandy.


TURNING POINT
Friday, October 22, 1993 (Henry is 30) 'ENRY: I 
am strolling down Linden Street, in South Haven, 
at large for .an hour while Clare and her mother 
do something at the florist's.
The wedding is tomorrow, but as the groom I 
don't seem to have too many responsibilities. Be 
there; that's the main item on my To Do list. 
Clare is constantly being whisked away to 
fittings, consultations, bridal showers.

When I do see her she always looks rather wistful.
It's a clear cold day, and I dawdle. I wish South Haven had a decent
bookstore. Even the library consists mainly of Barbara Cardano and John
Grisham. I have the Penguin edition of Kleist 
with me, but I'm not in the mood. I pass an 
antiques shop, a bakery, a bank, another antiques shop. As

I walk by the barber shop I peer in; there's an old man being shaved by a
dapper littìe balding barber, and I know at once what I'm going to do.
Ltde bells clang against the door as I walk into 
the shop. It smells of soap, steam, hair lotion, 
and elderly flesh. Everything is pale green. The 
chair is old and ornate with chrome, and there are elaborate bottles lining

dark wooden shelves, and trays of scissors, combs, and razors. It's almost


SVOLTA Venerdì 22 Ottobre 1993 (Henry ha 30) 
'ENRY: Sto passeggiando lungo Linden Street, a 
South Haven, in generale per un'ora mentre 
Chiara e sua madre fanno qualcosa dal fioraio.. 
Il matrimonio è domani, ma come lo sposo non mi 
sembra di avere troppe responsabilità. Essere 
lì, questo è l'elemento principale sul mio per 
fare la lista. Clare viene costantemente portata 
via per raccordi, consultazioni, docce da sposa. 
Quando faccio vedere la sua lei sembra sempre 
piuttosto malinconico. E 'una chiara giornata 
fredda, e io bighellonare. Vorrei South Haven 
aveva una libreria decente. Anche la biblioteca 
è costituito principalmente da Barbara Cardano e 
John Grisham. Ho il Pinguino edizione di Kleist 
con me, ma io non sono in vena. Io passo un 
negozio di antiquariato, un panificio, una 
banca, un altro negozio di antiquariato. Mentre 
cammino dal barbiere scruto in, c'è un vecchio 
uomo che è rasato da un azzimato Littie barbiere 
calvizie, e so subito che cosa ho intenzione di 
fare. A poco campane fragore contro la porta 
mentre cammino nel negozio. C'è odore di sapone, 
vapore, lozione per capelli, e la carne anziani. 
Tutto è verde pallido. La sedia è vecchio e 
ornato con bicromato di potassio, e ci sono 
bottiglie elaborati rivestono scaffali di legno 
scuro, e vassoi di forbici, pettini e rasoi. E 'quasi


Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi,  is the translator fairly accurate?  I ask, since most aren't, and an
 accurate translation feature would interest me, and incline me toward this
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 Thanks,
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[shoshana hathaway]

Thanks for the scans, Sandra. Once the beast and I become good friends, I'll
most likely get this, especially as I have net friends who do me the
courtesy of using English when they write to me, even though it isn't their
primary language.  I'm monolingual (forgot the French and German I studied
long ago) but I think it would be nice to return the favor.

Shoshana

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[Sandratomkins]

Hi Shoshana,

I don't know if this is going to work, and we may need to rely upon a 
native Italian speaker to discover just how good the translation functionality 
really is. Obviously, how good the translator in Text Grabber may vary from 
language to language, but I have a little Italian, so I am starting there.

What I have done is scan a short page from The Time Traveller's Wife 
(though, it seems that you can enter text of your choice, not sure about that 
yet) I then copied that scanned text and will paste it at the bottom of this 
message. I intend, then, to translate same, using Text Grabber, into Italian, 
and hope to append it to the first english copy below. Perhaps, someone with 
good Italian can comment on the validity of the translation? Unfortunately, the 
scan is not absolutely perfect, but this might often be the case, so par for 
the course!

Sandy.


TURNING POINT 
Friday, October 22, 1993 (Henry is 30) 'ENRY: I am strolling down Linden 
Street, in South Haven, at large for .an hour while Clare and her mother do 
something at the florist's. 
The wedding is tomorrow, but as the groom I don't seem to have too many 
responsibilities. Be there; that's the main item on my To Do list. Clare is 
constantly being whisked away to fittings, consultations, bridal showers. 
When I do see her she always looks rather wistful. 
It's a clear cold day, and I dawdle. I wish South Haven had a decent 
bookstore. Even the library consists mainly of Barbara Cardano and John 
Grisham. I have the Penguin edition of Kleist with me, but I'm not in the mood. 
I pass an antiques shop, a bakery, a bank, another antiques shop. As 
I walk by the barber shop I peer in; there's an old man being shaved by a 
dapper littìe balding barber, and I know at once what I'm going to do. 
Litde bells clang against the door as I walk into the shop. It smells of soap, 
steam, hair lotion, and elderly flesh. Everything is pale green. The chair is 
old and ornate with chrome, and there are elaborate bottles lining 
dark wooden shelves, and trays of scissors, combs, and razors. It's almost


SVOLTA Venerdì 22 Ottobre 1993 (Henry ha 30) 'ENRY: Sto passeggiando lungo 
Linden Street, a South Haven, in generale per un'ora mentre Chiara e sua madre 
fanno qualcosa dal fioraio.. Il matrimonio è domani, ma come lo sposo non mi 
sembra di avere troppe responsabilità. Essere lì, questo è l'elemento 
principale sul mio per fare la lista. Clare viene costantemente portata via per 
raccordi, consultazioni, docce da sposa. Quando faccio vedere la sua lei sembra 
sempre piuttosto malinconico. E 'una chiara giornata fredda, e io bighellonare. 
Vorrei South Haven aveva una libreria decente. Anche la biblioteca è costituito 
principalmente da Barbara Cardano e John Grisham. Ho il Pinguino edizione di 
Kleist con me, ma io non sono in vena. Io passo un negozio di antiquariato, un 
panificio, una banca, un altro negozio di antiquariato. Mentre cammino dal 
barbiere scruto in, c'è un vecchio uomo che è rasato da un azzimato Littie 
barbiere calvizie, e so subito che cosa ho intenzione di fare. A poco campane 
fragore contro la porta mentre cammino nel negozio. C'è odore di sapone, 
vapore, lozione per capelli, e la carne anziani. Tutto è verde pallido. La 
sedia è vecchio e ornato con bicromato di potassio, e ci sono bottiglie 
elaborati rivestono scaffali di legno scuro, e vassoi di forbici, pettini e 
rasoi. E 'quasi

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi,  is the translator fairly accurate?  I ask, since most aren't, and an
 accurate translation feature would interest me, and incline me toward this
 APP.
 
 Thanks,
 Shoshana, trying not to trip over any guidewires (oops, make that *lines*
 guidelines!
 
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Re: Text grabber

[Gabriel Battaglia (Kriyaban)]

Ciao Sandra.

The italian translation of this piece of text is awful.

It would be better to say: no bad and not worst than many other automatic translations I saw. I got the main sense of the article, 
most of the words are litterally well translated but the structure of the sentences, che according with genres and numbers and many 
many other things are wrong.

Never, an italian may think that this piece of text were written by an human.

Thanks.
Have a nice evening.

Gabriel. 


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Re: Text grabber

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Ciao Gabriel,

Thanks, I was hoping you would cast an eye over this for us. So, is it your 
impression that this would be the sort of thin one might expect from a basic 
translation app? or do you think that it is worse than that? I got the 
impression that, in a case of need, it would convey the literal meaning, but 
not with any sense of style of the target language.

So, for anyone considering using, at least the Italian option of the Prizmo 
translation functionality, the advice must be, don't expect too much and that 
the final result will be obviously the result of a translation app.

Wonder how the Swedish did!

Molte grazie,
Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 19 May 2013, at 18:28, Gabriel Battaglia \(Kriyaban\) 
gabriele.battag...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ciao Sandra.
 
 The italian translation of this piece of text is awful.
 
 It would be better to say: no bad and not worst than many other automatic 
 translations I saw. I got the main sense of the article, most of the words 
 are litterally well translated but the structure of the sentences, che 
 according with genres and numbers and many many other things are wrong.
 Never, an italian may think that this piece of text were written by an human.
 
 Thanks.
 Have a nice evening.
 
 Gabriel. 
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Re: Text grabber

[Gabriel Battaglia (Kriyaban)]

Grazie a te Sandra.

I think the translation might be with a good quality, compared to the average quality of the automatic translation apps, running at 
present. I've not a large experience with this kind of apps but, assuming the Google translator is not bad, then, also this used by 
Prizmo isn't. Anyway, as you correctly said, there is no style at all... Those are the literal translated words, liked together with 
a few grammar.


Buona serata.
Gabriel. 


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RE: Text grabber

[shoshana hathaway]

Hi,  is the translator fairly accurate?  I ask, since most aren't, and an
accurate translation feature would interest me, and incline me toward this
APP.

Thanks,
Shoshana, trying not to trip over any guidewires (oops, make that *lines*
guidelines!

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Re: Text grabber

[Les Kriegler]

Yes, you the correct one.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Lynn Coats lynncoat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I went to look for text grabber in the App Store, and what it came up with is 
 text grabber plus translator. Is this the right one? It sells for nine 
 dollars and something cents. Thank you.
 Lynn and the K dog
 
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Re: Text grabber

[Sandratomkins]

yes!

Sent from my iPhone

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 dollars and something cents. Thank you.
 Lynn and the K dog
 
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Re: Text grabber

[Andy Baracco]

Yes!
Andy


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text grabber

Hi,
I went to look for text grabber in the App Store, and what it came up with 
is text grabber plus translator. Is this the right one? It sells for nine 
dollars and something cents. Thank you.

Lynn and the K dog

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Re: text grabber version 3 is released

[Esther]

Hi All,

I posted a detailed summary of version 3 TextGrabber changes in the
app's entry at the AppleVis web site. As Eileen says, the OCR is
faster and there is a single camera button for taking pictures, just
above the home button. All labeling is much, much better, and includes
hints.  There's an earlier comment post of mine describing the buttons
on the main screen and their functions, so you can get a feeling of
the before and after labeling. Basically, I think that this app is
now usable by someone who is an entirely new user, who is just
following the information in the app.  Here are some other changes
beyond the better labeling, hints, and the better navigation of the
menu options for what you can do with the recognized text.

There are enhancements for low-vision users, such as the ability to
select larger size fonts in Settings for the displayed recognized
text. VoiceOver speaks directions for using the interactive cropping
feature, for those with sufficient vision to apply this feature.  The
organization of the  Settings screen has been simplified.  There are
no longer entries to turn linked services like Facebook, Twitter, and
Evernote on or off for you to enter login information.  Instead, the
user who selects one of these options from the menu of available
options for the OCR'd text will be directed to Settings to enter the
login and account information.  The info vf button contents with
version number and email contact has been integrated into the about
entry on the settings screen, and this button has now become user
manual with recommendations for use.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Apr 9, 10:01 am, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All,

 I have updated Text Grabber and the app is much quicker in producing the OCR 
 results. Also, there is only one button to take the picture, which is located 
 above the home button. It will also announce recognize text when the OCR is 
 completed. These are  just a few of my observations of using the new version.

 Best,
 Eileen

 SentHello All,

 I have updated Text Grabber and the app is much quicker in producing the OCR 
 results. Also, there is only one button to take the picture, which is located 
 above the home button. It will also announce recognize text when the OCR is 
 completed. These aoe just a few of observations of using new version.

 Best,
 Eileen from my iPhone

 On Apr 9, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:



  Hi Annie,

  Thanks for the TextGrabber version 3.0 release notice.  The What's
  New for TextGrabber includes:
  • Improved recognition algorithm
  • Full support for VoiceOver
  • Recognized and translated text-to-speech with VoiceOver
  • Sound tips for various interface elements
  • Option to display recognition results in large font

  Also, the price of the app has dropped to $4.99, which is relatively
  low for recent weeks.  Here's the App Store URL for this OCR app:
  • TextGrabber + Translator (currently $4.99) by ABBYY
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textgrabber-+-translator/id438475005?...

  Cheers,

  Esther

  On Apr 9, 12:07 am, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Hi.

  Text grabber version 3 has been released, it is a free update. It seems 
  that text grabber now works much better than before, the OCR has been 
  improved.

  Best regards Annie.



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Re: text grabber version 3 is released

[Esther]

Hi Annie,

Thanks for the TextGrabber version 3.0 release notice.  The What's
New for TextGrabber includes:
• Improved recognition algorithm
• Full support for VoiceOver
• Recognized and translated text-to-speech with VoiceOver
• Sound tips for various interface elements
• Option to display recognition results in large font

Also, the price of the app has dropped to $4.99, which is relatively
low for recent weeks.  Here's the App Store URL for this OCR app:
• TextGrabber + Translator (currently $4.99) by ABBYY
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textgrabber-+-translator/id438475005?mt=8

Cheers,

Esther

On Apr 9, 12:07 am, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com
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 Hi.

 Text grabber version 3 has been released, it is a free update. It seems that 
 text grabber now works much better than before, the OCR has been improved.

 Best regards Annie.

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Re: text grabber version 3 is released

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hello All,

I have updated Text Grabber and the app is much quicker in producing the OCR 
results. Also, there is only one button to take the picture, which is located 
above the home button. It will also announce recognize text when the OCR is 
completed. These are  just a few of my observations of using the new version.

Best,
Eileen

SentHello All,

I have updated Text Grabber and the app is much quicker in producing the OCR 
results. Also, there is only one button to take the picture, which is located 
above the home button. It will also announce recognize text when the OCR is 
completed. These aoe just a few of observations of using new version.

Best,
Eileen from my iPhone

On Apr 9, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Annie,
 
 Thanks for the TextGrabber version 3.0 release notice.  The What's
 New for TextGrabber includes:
 • Improved recognition algorithm
 • Full support for VoiceOver
 • Recognized and translated text-to-speech with VoiceOver
 • Sound tips for various interface elements
 • Option to display recognition results in large font
 
 Also, the price of the app has dropped to $4.99, which is relatively
 low for recent weeks.  Here's the App Store URL for this OCR app:
 • TextGrabber + Translator (currently $4.99) by ABBYY
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textgrabber-+-translator/id438475005?mt=8
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Apr 9, 12:07 am, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Text grabber version 3 has been released, it is a free update. It seems that 
 text grabber now works much better than before, the OCR has been improved.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
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Re: Text Grabber doing very well with the SSP!

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Ciao Anne,

No! For general scanning etc, I think you just need to choose a language. 
However, as the app has other potential re translation and access to different 
language dictionaries, i am thinking that I could avail of some of its 
functions to improve my execrable Italian! Perhaps, if she has a moment, Esther 
might be able to advise us? Meanwhile, it appears that I will have to make a 
start on polish!

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hello Sandy,
 
 I've used TextGrabber in French and it works great. I just selected French 
 from the list of languages. Is there something else I should have done?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 26 Mar 2013, at 14:21, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Anne,
 
I knew you'd like those aromatic song-birds! They do sound sort of 
 French, don't they?
 
Actually, Miss Perfection, I did spot them, but recognising them as one 
 of the more usual mistakes made by all OCR packages, I.E. the running 
 together of two letters, in this case, C and L giving us D. So I let it 
 pass! Culpa mia!
 
By the way, have you found a way to make Text Grabber work with the ABBII 
 dictionaries yet? I thought I had bought the basic dictionary package, but 
 appear only to have English/Polish (not what I wanted at all!) I was after 
 at least the Italian one. Any suggestions as to how this works would be much 
 appreciated.
 
Sandy.
 
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RE: Text Grabber doing very well with the SSP!

[Richard Turner]

Prizmo also has translation built into it.  I don't know how accurate it is,
but it is there.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandratomkins
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Grabber doing very well with the SSP!

Ciao Anne,

No! For general scanning etc, I think you just need to choose a
language. However, as the app has other potential re translation and access
to different language dictionaries, i am thinking that I could avail of some
of its functions to improve my execrable Italian! Perhaps, if she has a
moment, Esther might be able to advise us? Meanwhile, it appears that I will
have to make a start on polish!

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 26 Mar 2013, at 14:59, Anne Robertson annefromo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Sandy,
 
 I've used TextGrabber in French and it works great. I just selected French
from the list of languages. Is there something else I should have done?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 26 Mar 2013, at 14:21, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 
 Anne,
 
I knew you'd like those aromatic song-birds! They do sound sort of
French, don't they?
 
Actually, Miss Perfection, I did spot them, but recognising them as
one of the more usual mistakes made by all OCR packages, I.E. the running
together of two letters, in this case, C and L giving us D. So I let it
pass! Culpa mia!
 
By the way, have you found a way to make Text Grabber work with the
ABBII dictionaries yet? I thought I had bought the basic dictionary package,
but appear only to have English/Polish (not what I wanted at all!) I was
after at least the Italian one. Any suggestions as to how this works would
be much appreciated.
 
Sandy.
 
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Re: Text Grabber doing very well with the SSP!

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sandy,

Oh, I love those garlic doves!

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2013, at 13:30, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 This is one of the simplest recipes for stuffing tomatoes. All you have to 
 do'is cut'the tomatoes in half and strew them with flavoured breadcrumbs. 
 No• peeling or seeding is necessary. Just make sure that the tomatoes are 
 cooked through, or you will end up with the sort of tomato that comes with 
 your average provincial hotel breakfast: hard, warm and pitiful. 
 100 g fresh breadcrumbs 
 1 bunch flat-leaf parsley, leaves only 
 4 garlic doves, chopped 
 thinly pared zest of 1 lemon, chopped 
 6tbsp olive oil 
 8 large ripe tomatoes, halved salt and freshly ground black 
 pepper 
 Place the breadcrumbs in a food-processor with the parsley, garlic and 
 lemon zest. Process until well blended - the crumbs will turn a lovely 
 green colour - but don't overwork or the mixture will become pasty. 
 Pre-heat the oven to 350°F/i8o°C/gas mark 4. 
 Smear a shallow gratin dish with some of the olive oil and arrange 
 the tomato halves, cut side up, in the dish without crowding, and season with 
 salt and pepper. Carefully spoon the breadcrumbs in little piles over each 
 tomato, trying not to let any fall off. Generously dribble more olive oil 
 over the tomatoes and bake in the oven for 30 to 40 minutes, or until the 
 breadcrumbs have browned and the tomatoes are cooked through. Flash under a 
 pre-heated grill, if necessary, to burnish further. 
 Serve in the dish at room temperature. PLUM TOMATOES WITH ANCHOVIES AND 
 BREADCRUMBS 
 Serves 4 as a snack 
 An idea from Nigel Slater, the Observer's cookery writer, for bringing 
 slightly lacklustre tomatoes to life. 
 12 plum tomatoes 
 200 g fresh breadcrumbs 
 8 anchovy fillets, rinsed and chopped a handful of basil, shredded 
 2 garlic doves, peeled and crushed 
 6tbsp olive oil 
 freshly ground black pepper 
 Preheat the oven to 4Z5°F/zzo°C/gas mark 7. 
 Slice the tomatoes in halfhorizontally. Scoop out the seeds into a bowl and 
 reserve. Arrange the tomato halves, skin side down, in an oiled ovenproof 
 dish. Mix the breadcrumbs, anchovies, basil, garlic and 2 (ablespoons of the 
 olive oil into the tomato seeds and jelly. Season with 
 black pepper then heap the stuffing into the tomatoes. Spoon over the 
 remaining olive oii and bake for 20 to 25 minutes until the breadcrumbs 
 are golden and crunchy. :!/ !l/y .^ 
 / ^ ^ ^% ^ R K  s% ' *.f £ a^w»nj»N» 
 ^ IGKSX*» ^M» Utart » iNaif?nl«eiK a» l»!lì 
 g%^ ]'li»ll.lL~
 
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Re: Text Grabber doing very well with the SSP!

[Sandratomkins]

Anne,

I knew you'd like those aromatic song-birds! They do sound sort of French, 
don't they?

Actually, Miss Perfection, I did spot them, but recognising them as one of 
the more usual mistakes made by all OCR packages, I.E. the running together of 
two letters, in this case, C and L giving us D. So I let it pass! Culpa mia!

By the way, have you found a way to make Text Grabber work with the ABBII 
dictionaries yet? I thought I had bought the basic dictionary package, but 
appear only to have English/Polish (not what I wanted at all!) I was after at 
least the Italian one. Any suggestions as to how this works would be much 
appreciated.

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 26 Mar 2013, at 12:44, Anne Robertson annefromo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Sandy,
 
 Oh, I love those garlic doves!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 26 Mar 2013, at 13:30, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 This is one of the simplest recipes for stuffing tomatoes. All you have to 
 do'is cut'the tomatoes in half and strew them with flavoured breadcrumbs. 
 No• peeling or seeding is necessary. Just make sure that the tomatoes are 
 cooked through, or you will end up with the sort of tomato that comes with 
 your average provincial hotel breakfast: hard, warm and pitiful. 
 100 g fresh breadcrumbs 
 1 bunch flat-leaf parsley, leaves only 
 4 garlic doves, chopped 
 thinly pared zest of 1 lemon, chopped 
 6tbsp olive oil 
 8 large ripe tomatoes, halved salt and freshly ground black 
 pepper 
 Place the breadcrumbs in a food-processor with the parsley, garlic and 
 lemon zest. Process until well blended - the crumbs will turn a lovely 
 green colour - but don't overwork or the mixture will become pasty. 
 Pre-heat the oven to 350°F/i8o°C/gas mark 4. 
 Smear a shallow gratin dish with some of the olive oil and arrange 
 the tomato halves, cut side up, in the dish without crowding, and season 
 with salt and pepper. Carefully spoon the breadcrumbs in little piles over 
 each tomato, trying not to let any fall off. Generously dribble more olive 
 oil over the tomatoes and bake in the oven for 30 to 40 minutes, or until 
 the breadcrumbs have browned and the tomatoes are cooked through. Flash 
 under a pre-heated grill, if necessary, to burnish further. 
 Serve in the dish at room temperature. PLUM TOMATOES WITH ANCHOVIES AND 
 BREADCRUMBS 
 Serves 4 as a snack 
 An idea from Nigel Slater, the Observer's cookery writer, for bringing 
 slightly lacklustre tomatoes to life. 
 12 plum tomatoes 
 200 g fresh breadcrumbs 
 8 anchovy fillets, rinsed and chopped a handful of basil, shredded 
 2 garlic doves, peeled and crushed 
 6tbsp olive oil 
 freshly ground black pepper 
 Preheat the oven to 4Z5°F/zzo°C/gas mark 7. 
 Slice the tomatoes in halfhorizontally. Scoop out the seeds into a bowl and 
 reserve. Arrange the tomato halves, skin side down, in an oiled ovenproof 
 dish. Mix the breadcrumbs, anchovies, basil, garlic and 2 (ablespoons of the 
 olive oil into the tomato seeds and jelly. Season with 
 black pepper then heap the stuffing into the tomatoes. Spoon over the 
 remaining olive oii and bake for 20 to 25 minutes until the breadcrumbs 
 are golden and crunchy. :!/ !l/y .^ 
 / ^ ^ ^% ^ R K  s% ' *.f £ a^w»nj»N» 
 ^ IGKSX*» ^M» Utart » iNaif?nl«eiK a» l»!lì 
 g%^ ]'li»ll.lL~
 
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Re: Text Grabber doing very well with the SSP!

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sandy,

I've used TextGrabber in French and it works great. I just selected French from 
the list of languages. Is there something else I should have done?

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2013, at 14:21, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Anne,
 
 I knew you'd like those aromatic song-birds! They do sound sort of 
 French, don't they?
 
 Actually, Miss Perfection, I did spot them, but recognising them as one 
 of the more usual mistakes made by all OCR packages, I.E. the running 
 together of two letters, in this case, C and L giving us D. So I let it pass! 
 Culpa mia!
 
 By the way, have you found a way to make Text Grabber work with the ABBII 
 dictionaries yet? I thought I had bought the basic dictionary package, but 
 appear only to have English/Polish (not what I wanted at all!) I was after at 
 least the Italian one. Any suggestions as to how this works would be much 
 appreciated.
 
 Sandy. 

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Re: Text Grabber or Prizmo?

[Fred Olver]

As has been mentioned in previous posts it is suggested that you get both text 
grabber and prizmo.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Aaron Linson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:59 AM
  Subject: Text Grabber or Prizmo?


  I've been looking at Prizmo and Text Grabber but don't know which one to get. 
I'm also going to be getting a standscan pro on Friday and just wondering what 
people on the list have on suggestions with these two apps. I already have text 
detective and zoom reader. 
  Thanks, 

  Aaron Linson
  IOS and Android Accessibility Advocate
  Once an Eagle
  Always an Eagle


  On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Anne Robertson annefromo...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Sandy,


Oh, I love those garlic doves!


Cheers,


Anne




On 26 Mar 2013, at 13:30, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


  This is one of the simplest recipes for stuffing tomatoes. All you have 
to 
  do'is cut'the tomatoes in half and strew them with flavoured breadcrumbs. 
  No• peeling or seeding is necessary. Just make sure that the tomatoes are 
cooked through, or you will end up with the sort of tomato that comes with your 
average provincial hotel breakfast: hard, warm and pitiful. 
  100 g fresh breadcrumbs 
  1 bunch flat-leaf parsley, leaves only 
  4 garlic doves, chopped 
  thinly pared zest of 1 lemon, chopped 
  6tbsp olive oil 
  8 large ripe tomatoes, halved salt and freshly ground black 
  pepper 
  Place the breadcrumbs in a food-processor with the parsley, garlic and 
  lemon zest. Process until well blended - the crumbs will turn a lovely 
  green colour - but don't overwork or the mixture will become pasty. 
  Pre-heat the oven to 350°F/i8o°C/gas mark 4. 
  Smear a shallow gratin dish with some of the olive oil and arrange 
  the tomato halves, cut side up, in the dish without crowding, and season 
with salt and pepper. Carefully spoon the breadcrumbs in little piles over each 
tomato, trying not to let any fall off. Generously dribble more olive oil over 
the tomatoes and bake in the oven for 30 to 40 minutes, or until the 
breadcrumbs have browned and the tomatoes are cooked through. Flash under a 
pre-heated grill, if necessary, to burnish further. 
  Serve in the dish at room temperature. PLUM TOMATOES WITH ANCHOVIES AND 
BREADCRUMBS 
  Serves 4 as a snack 
  An idea from Nigel Slater, the Observer's cookery writer, for bringing 
slightly lacklustre tomatoes to life. 
  12 plum tomatoes 
  200 g fresh breadcrumbs 
  8 anchovy fillets, rinsed and chopped a handful of basil, shredded 
  2 garlic doves, peeled and crushed 
  6tbsp olive oil 
  freshly ground black pepper 
  Preheat the oven to 4Z5°F/zzo°C/gas mark 7. 
  Slice the tomatoes in halfhorizontally. Scoop out the seeds into a bowl 
and reserve. Arrange the tomato halves, skin side down, in an oiled ovenproof 
dish. Mix the breadcrumbs, anchovies, basil, garlic and 2 (ablespoons of the 
olive oil into the tomato seeds and jelly. Season with 
  black pepper then heap the stuffing into the tomatoes. Spoon over the 
remaining olive oii and bake for 20 to 25 minutes until the breadcrumbs 
  are golden and crunchy. :!/ !l/y .^ 
  / ^ ^ ^% ^ R K  s% ' *.f £ a^w»nj»N» 
  ^ IGKSX*» ^M» Utart » iNaif?nl«eiK a» l»!lì 
  g%^ ]'li»ll.lL~

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Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Sandra.

Is this scanning done with textgrabber or prizmo.

I have been scanning books for many years, and I can tell that cookbooks are 
the most difficult books to get a sensible result from. I am really impressed 
that you can get such results with a IPhone and standscan.

Best regards Annie.
On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
I have just been playing with Text Grabber and Prizmo in conjunction with 
 my StandScan Pro. I decided to try them with a book that I attempted to scan 
 many years ago using a flat-bed scanner and Kurtzweil. My results, possibly, 
 ten or more years ago, were less than satisfactory. In fact, you couldn't 
 follow the recipes because the quantities were illegible. Now, in many ways, 
 the apps we have available to us on the iPhone, are in their infancy. 
 obviously, they are a fraction of the size of, say, Kurtzweil and, also 
 obviously, a fraction of the price. plus, now we are dealing with a portable 
 solution. When you want to read a letter, something simple with no columns 
 etc, both Prizmo and Text Grabber will do the job, especially when using the 
 StandScan Pro. However, imbedded columns and symbols for 
 grammes/ounces/fractions etc can prove daunting for these pocket sized OCR 
 packages. Now that we have a way to position the phone exactly, and we can 
 ensure perfect lighting conditions, when things go wrong it is more to do 
 with the scanning/OCR capability of a given app rather than the physicality 
 of scanning. Also, there is one other variable: to wit, when we use a 
 flat-bed scanner, the book we are scanning is facing down onto a flat surface 
 and gravity alone will heple with ensuring the flatness of the text. Now and 
 again, we may use pressure on that book to make sure that the text nearest to 
 the spine is readable. This we cannot do when the book is facing up toward 
 the phone. So, until apps such as Prizmo or Text Grabber get really clever 
 and learn to deal with distorted text, we aill always have trouble scanning 
 two pages of a book, apart from when we are scanning roughly half way 
 through, because only half way through will allow you to hold the pages 
 equally flat.
 
With all this in mind, I tried both Text Grabber and prizmo on my The Big 
 Book of Tomatoes. I wanted results that would mean I could follow the 
 recipes with ease. In the end, for good enough results, I had to use only 
 single page shots. These pages all have paragraphs of text plus columns of 
 ingredients. Below is my best result, there are two significant mistakes, 
 where you will hear 'tilda it should read half (so  half a lemon). Also, 
 when it says s minutes it should read 5.
 
The rest is perfect, it starts wheE. half way through a sentence and 
 finishes at the bottom, half way through a sentence.
 
We are getting there, these results are much, much better than those 
 obtained by me and my expensive Kurtzweil and flat-bed scanner all those 
 years ago. I do know that kurtzwiel ahs improved since then, but our phones 
 and OCR apps are catching up fast. The point of all this is to draw people's 
 attention to the fact that not everything is about the right position of the 
 phone and the lighting, it is also about software.
 
So, here it is!
 
 f Tomato Soups ~ in the yoghurt. Taste and adjust the seasoning with salt, 
 Tabasco, lemon juice and possibly, depending on the ripeness of the fruit, a 
 little sugar.
 Pick the mint leaves from the stalks and chop very finely. Stir into the 
 soup. Serve very cold.
 HOT SOUPS BLACK BEAN SOUP WITH TOMATO AND
 Serves 6-8 AVOCADO RELISH
 Black beans, not to be confused with black-eyed beans, are small, shiny and 
 kidney-shaped. Their slightly sweet flavour is complemented by onions and 
 garlic, goes well with coriander, cumin and tomatoes, and needs to be pepped 
 up with chilli. This soup combines all those flavours and the result is an 
 intriguingly aromatic, thick and chunky soup, freshened with a 'salad' of raw 
 tomato and avocado seasoned with lemon juice.
 4 tbsp vegetable oil
 2 large onions, diced 4 garlic c(oves, chopped 1 tsp ground cumin 1 tsp 
 ground coriander 1 tsp dried oregano 1 bay leaf
 250 g dried black beans, soaked in water for at least 4 hours and drained
 2 x 400 g tins italian tomatoes for ~he garnish
 1 firm but ripe avocado, diced 1 tbsp lemon juice
 2 plum tomatoes, cored, peeled, 1 tbsp tomato purde
 1 scant tsp Tabasco a large bunch coriander (approximately 75 g), leaves 
 only, chopped
 1.75 litres hot water or vegetable stock
 salt and freshly ground black pepper
 ~,~ lemon
 seeded and diced 100 g soured cream
 a few coriander leaves Heat the oil in a large pan and saut6 the onion and 
 garlic for several minutes until slippery but not coloured. Stir in the 
 cumin, ground coriander, oregano and bay leaf, then add the beans. Cook, 
 stirring constantly, for S minutes.
 Run a sharp knife through the tomatoes a 

Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Richard Turner]

You did not say which app gave you that very good result, or did miss something?

Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:20 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
I have just been playing with Text Grabber and Prizmo in conjunction with 
 my StandScan Pro. I decided to try them with a book that I attempted to scan 
 many years ago using a flat-bed scanner and Kurtzweil. My results, possibly, 
 ten or more years ago, were less than satisfactory. In fact, you couldn't 
 follow the recipes because the quantities were illegible. Now, in many ways, 
 the apps we have available to us on the iPhone, are in their infancy. 
 obviously, they are a fraction of the size of, say, Kurtzweil and, also 
 obviously, a fraction of the price. plus, now we are dealing with a portable 
 solution. When you want to read a letter, something simple with no columns 
 etc, both Prizmo and Text Grabber will do the job, especially when using the 
 StandScan Pro. However, imbedded columns and symbols for 
 grammes/ounces/fractions etc can prove daunting for these pocket sized OCR 
 packages. Now that we have a way to position the phone exactly, and we can 
 ensure perfect lighting conditions, when things go wrong it is more to do 
 with the scanning/OCR capability of a given app rather than the physicality 
 of scanning. Also, there is one other variable: to wit, when we use a 
 flat-bed scanner, the book we are scanning is facing down onto a flat surface 
 and gravity alone will heple with ensuring the flatness of the text. Now and 
 again, we may use pressure on that book to make sure that the text nearest to 
 the spine is readable. This we cannot do when the book is facing up toward 
 the phone. So, until apps such as Prizmo or Text Grabber get really clever 
 and learn to deal with distorted text, we aill always have trouble scanning 
 two pages of a book, apart from when we are scanning roughly half way 
 through, because only half way through will allow you to hold the pages 
 equally flat.
 
With all this in mind, I tried both Text Grabber and prizmo on my The Big 
 Book of Tomatoes. I wanted results that would mean I could follow the 
 recipes with ease. In the end, for good enough results, I had to use only 
 single page shots. These pages all have paragraphs of text plus columns of 
 ingredients. Below is my best result, there are two significant mistakes, 
 where you will hear 'tilda it should read half (so  half a lemon). Also, 
 when it says s minutes it should read 5.
 
The rest is perfect, it starts wheE. half way through a sentence and 
 finishes at the bottom, half way through a sentence.
 
We are getting there, these results are much, much better than those 
 obtained by me and my expensive Kurtzweil and flat-bed scanner all those 
 years ago. I do know that kurtzwiel ahs improved since then, but our phones 
 and OCR apps are catching up fast. The point of all this is to draw people's 
 attention to the fact that not everything is about the right position of the 
 phone and the lighting, it is also about software.
 
So, here it is!
 
 f Tomato Soups ~ in the yoghurt. Taste and adjust the seasoning with salt, 
 Tabasco, lemon juice and possibly, depending on the ripeness of the fruit, a 
 little sugar.
 Pick the mint leaves from the stalks and chop very finely. Stir into the 
 soup. Serve very cold.
 HOT SOUPS BLACK BEAN SOUP WITH TOMATO AND
 Serves 6-8 AVOCADO RELISH
 Black beans, not to be confused with black-eyed beans, are small, shiny and 
 kidney-shaped. Their slightly sweet flavour is complemented by onions and 
 garlic, goes well with coriander, cumin and tomatoes, and needs to be pepped 
 up with chilli. This soup combines all those flavours and the result is an 
 intriguingly aromatic, thick and chunky soup, freshened with a 'salad' of raw 
 tomato and avocado seasoned with lemon juice.
 4 tbsp vegetable oil
 2 large onions, diced 4 garlic c(oves, chopped 1 tsp ground cumin 1 tsp 
 ground coriander 1 tsp dried oregano 1 bay leaf
 250 g dried black beans, soaked in water for at least 4 hours and drained
 2 x 400 g tins italian tomatoes for ~he garnish
 1 firm but ripe avocado, diced 1 tbsp lemon juice
 2 plum tomatoes, cored, peeled, 1 tbsp tomato purde
 1 scant tsp Tabasco a large bunch coriander (approximately 75 g), leaves 
 only, chopped
 1.75 litres hot water or vegetable stock
 salt and freshly ground black pepper
 ~,~ lemon
 seeded and diced 100 g soured cream
 a few coriander leaves Heat the oil in a large pan and saut6 the onion and 
 garlic for several minutes until slippery but not coloured. Stir in the 
 cumin, ground coriander, oregano and bay leaf, then add the beans. Cook, 
 stirring constantly, for S minutes.
 Run a sharp knife through the tomatoes a few times while still in the tin and 
 add them, with their liquid, the tomato pur~e, Tabasco and chopped coriander 
 and the hot water or stock. Bring to the boil, turn 

Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Sandratomkins]

Hi Annie,

It wasn't bad, was it?

In the end, Prizmo took the prize! Text Grabber did well, but Prizmo dealt 
best with the columns. However, this was my second shot, the first showed the 
half frction for the lemon, but was less good elsewhere. So, why did it mistake 
the fraction in one scan and not in the other? Why is it that when you keep the 
book in precisely the same position and the lighting the same, is it that you 
get differing results? This is, obviously, more to do with software than the 
physical nature of scanning. There wasn't much between the two, but I would 
suggest that having both apps will afford the best chance of getting 
perfect/near perfect scans depending upon the layout/formatting of the text. 
Also, if you are away from your StandScan pro, prizmo is still much easier to 
use, it is more forgiving of slight skewing of the text.

Now, i am also interested to see how i can improve on rounded surfaces. 
E.G. tins/bottles. Thus far, they prove difficult with tins doing better than 
bottles of wine, this is because the diameter of a wine bottle is less than the 
usual tin, so less curvature and less distorting of the text.

What is nice here is that we are beginning to speak of more difficult 
aspects of scanning and not of the simple stuff which is very doable now with 
these apps and the StandScan Pro. I think I have read that you are awaiting 
yours? If I am right, please do let us know how you do with recipes etc, will 
you? Many people here may not be interested in recipes, but may be interested 
in, say, mathematical formulae or scientific symbols etc, getting good results 
with recipes will help in working toward this IMHO.

Happy scanning and I could only wish that having scanned a recipe, I could 
only get as proficient at actually cooking it!

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Mar 2013, at 12:35, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sandra.
 
 Is this scanning done with textgrabber or prizmo.
 
 I have been scanning books for many years, and I can tell that cookbooks are 
 the most difficult books to get a sensible result from. I am really impressed 
 that you can get such results with a IPhone and standscan.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
   I have just been playing with Text Grabber and Prizmo in conjunction with 
 my StandScan Pro. I decided to try them with a book that I attempted to scan 
 many years ago using a flat-bed scanner and Kurtzweil. My results, possibly, 
 ten or more years ago, were less than satisfactory. In fact, you couldn't 
 follow the recipes because the quantities were illegible. Now, in many ways, 
 the apps we have available to us on the iPhone, are in their infancy. 
 obviously, they are a fraction of the size of, say, Kurtzweil and, also 
 obviously, a fraction of the price. plus, now we are dealing with a portable 
 solution. When you want to read a letter, something simple with no columns 
 etc, both Prizmo and Text Grabber will do the job, especially when using the 
 StandScan Pro. However, imbedded columns and symbols for 
 grammes/ounces/fractions etc can prove daunting for these pocket sized OCR 
 packages. Now that we have a way to position the phone exactly, and we can 
 ensure perfect lighting conditions, when things go wrong it is more to do 
 with the scanning/OCR capability of a given app rather than the physicality 
 of scanning. Also, there is one other variable: to wit, when we use a 
 flat-bed scanner, the book we are scanning is facing down onto a flat 
 surface and gravity alone will heple with ensuring the flatness of the text. 
 Now and again, we may use pressure on that book to make sure that the text 
 nearest to the spine is readable. This we cannot do when the book is facing 
 up toward the phone. So, until apps such as Prizmo or Text Grabber get 
 really clever and learn to deal with distorted text, we aill always have 
 trouble scanning two pages of a book, apart from when we are scanning 
 roughly half way through, because only half way through will allow you to 
 hold the pages equally flat.
 
   With all this in mind, I tried both Text Grabber and prizmo on my The Big 
 Book of Tomatoes. I wanted results that would mean I could follow the 
 recipes with ease. In the end, for good enough results, I had to use only 
 single page shots. These pages all have paragraphs of text plus columns of 
 ingredients. Below is my best result, there are two significant mistakes, 
 where you will hear 'tilda it should read half (so  half a lemon). Also, 
 when it says s minutes it should read 5.
 
   The rest is perfect, it starts wheE. half way through a sentence and 
 finishes at the bottom, half way through a sentence.
 
   We are getting there, these results are much, much better than those 
 obtained by me and my expensive Kurtzweil and flat-bed scanner all those 
 years ago. I do know that 

Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hi Sandy, 
I am not sure that my comment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when I 
was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
either OCR products. I would  pull the binding off  so I could lie a single 
page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I only bring 
this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or someone else 
will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could preserve the 
book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and I am looking 
forward to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written materials. 
Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to experiment with 
recipes.   Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone. 

Best,
EileenHi Sandy, 
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when I 
was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie a 
single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I only 
bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or someone 
else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could preserve 
the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and I am looking 
to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written materials. Once I 
have some confidence with the device, I will begin to experiment. Thanks for 
all your hard work in making it easier for all us to use Ocr on our iPhone. 

Best,
Eileen

Hi Sandy, 
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when I 
was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie a 
single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I only 
bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or someone 
else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could preserve 
the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and I am looking 
to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written materials. Once I 
have some confidence with the device, I will begin to experiment. Thanks for 
all your hard work in making it easier for all us to use Ocr on our iPhone. 

Best,
EileenSentHi Sandy, 
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when I 
was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie a 
single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I only 
bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or someone 
else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could preserve 
the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and I am looking 
to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written materials. Once I 
have some confidence with the device, I will begin to experiment. Thanks for 
all your hard work in making it easier for all us to use Ocr on our iPhone. 

Best,
EileenHi Sandy, 
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when I 
was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie a 
single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I only 
bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or someone 
else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could preserve 
the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and I am looking 
to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written materials. Once I 
have some confidence with the device, I will begin to experiment. Thanks for 
all your hard work in making it easier for all us to use Ocr on our iPhone. 

Best,
Eileen from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Annie,
 
It wasn't bad, was it?
 
In the end, Prizmo took the prize! Text Grabber did well, but Prizmo dealt 
 best with the columns. However, this was my second shot, the first showed the 
 half frction for the lemon, but was less good elsewhere. So, why did it 
 mistake the fraction in one scan and not in the other? Why is it that when 
 you keep the book in precisely the same position and the lighting the same, 
 is it that you get differing results? This is, obviously, more to do with 
 software than the physical nature of scanning. There wasn't much between the 
 two, but I would suggest that having both apps will afford the best chance of 
 getting perfect/near perfect scans depending upon the layout/formatting of 
 the text. Also, if you are away from your StandScan pro, prizmo is still much 
 

Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Fred Olver]

I have done the same thing and actually thought about mentioning it as well.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.


Hi Sandy,
I am not sure that my comment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would  pull the binding off  so I could lie a 
single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking forward to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various 
written materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin 
to experiment with recipes.   Thanks for all your hard work in making it 
easier for all us us to use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
EileenHi Sandy,
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie 
a single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
Eileen

Hi Sandy,
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie 
a single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
EileenSentHi Sandy,
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie 
a single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
EileenHi Sandy,
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie 
a single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
Eileen from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
wrote:



Hi Annie,

   It wasn't bad, was it?

   In the end, Prizmo took the prize! Text Grabber did well, but Prizmo 
dealt best with the columns. However, this was my second shot, the first 
showed the half frction for the lemon, but was less good elsewhere. So, 
why did it mistake the fraction in one scan and not in the other? Why is 
it that when you keep the book in precisely the same position and the 
lighting the same, is it that you get differing results? This is, 
obviously, more to do with software than the physical

Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Sandratomkins]

Fred,

I don't think so. I think, were they to do so, it could work against us, as 
they might find themselves on tramlines, so that when we changed the nature of 
our reading material, they might try to turn Sherlock Holmes into a deep-pan 
pizza!

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Mar 2013, at 13:34, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 Sandy, is it possible that these apps learn from scanning or not?
 
 Fred Olver
 
 - Original Message - From: Sandratomkins 
 sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:24 AM
 Subject: Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.
 
 
 Hi Annie,
 
   It wasn't bad, was it?
 
   In the end, Prizmo took the prize! Text Grabber did well, but Prizmo dealt 
 best with the columns. However, this was my second shot, the first showed the 
 half frction for the lemon, but was less good elsewhere. So, why did it 
 mistake the fraction in one scan and not in the other? Why is it that when 
 you keep the book in precisely the same position and the lighting the same, 
 is it that you get differing results? This is, obviously, more to do with 
 software than the physical nature of scanning. There wasn't much between the 
 two, but I would suggest that having both apps will afford the best chance of 
 getting perfect/near perfect scans depending upon the layout/formatting of 
 the text. Also, if you are away from your StandScan pro, prizmo is still much 
 easier to use, it is more forgiving of slight skewing of the text.
 
   Now, i am also interested to see how i can improve on rounded surfaces. 
 E.G. tins/bottles. Thus far, they prove difficult with tins doing better than 
 bottles of wine, this is because the diameter of a wine bottle is less than 
 the usual tin, so less curvature and less distorting of the text.
 
   What is nice here is that we are beginning to speak of more difficult 
 aspects of scanning and not of the simple stuff which is very doable now with 
 these apps and the StandScan Pro. I think I have read that you are awaiting 
 yours? If I am right, please do let us know how you do with recipes etc, will 
 you? Many people here may not be interested in recipes, but may be interested 
 in, say, mathematical formulae or scientific symbols etc, getting good 
 results with recipes will help in working toward this IMHO.
 
   Happy scanning and I could only wish that having scanned a recipe, I could 
 only get as proficient at actually cooking it!
 
   Sandy.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 25 Mar 2013, at 12:35, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Sandra.
 
 Is this scanning done with textgrabber or prizmo.
 
 I have been scanning books for many years, and I can tell that cookbooks are 
 the most difficult books to get a sensible result from. I am really 
 impressed that you can get such results with a IPhone and standscan.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  I have just been playing with Text Grabber and Prizmo in conjunction with 
 my StandScan Pro. I decided to try them with a book that I attempted to 
 scan many years ago using a flat-bed scanner and Kurtzweil. My results, 
 possibly, ten or more years ago, were less than satisfactory. In fact, you 
 couldn't follow the recipes because the quantities were illegible. Now, in 
 many ways, the apps we have available to us on the iPhone, are in their 
 infancy. obviously, they are a fraction of the size of, say, Kurtzweil and, 
 also obviously, a fraction of the price. plus, now we are dealing with a 
 portable solution. When you want to read a letter, something simple with no 
 columns etc, both Prizmo and Text Grabber will do the job, especially when 
 using the StandScan Pro. However, imbedded columns and symbols for 
 grammes/ounces/fractions etc can prove daunting for these pocket sized OCR 
 packages. Now that we have a way to position the phone exactly, and we can 
 ensure perfect lighting conditions, when things go wrong it is more to do 
 with the scanning/OCR capability of a given app rather than the physicality 
 of scanning. Also, there is one other variable: to wit, when we use a 
 flat-bed scanner, the book we are scanning is facing down onto a flat 
 surface and gravity alone will heple with ensuring the flatness of the 
 text. Now and again, we may use pressure on that book to make sure that the 
 text nearest to the spine is readable. This we cannot do when the book is 
 facing up toward the phone. So, until apps such as Prizmo or Text Grabber 
 get really clever and learn to deal with distorted text, we aill always 
 have trouble scanning two pages of a book, apart from when we are scanning 
 roughly half way through, because only half way through will allow you to 
 hold the pages equally flat.
 
  With all this in mind, I tried both Text Grabber and prizmo on my The Big 
 Book of Tomatoes. I wanted results that would mean

Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Sandratomkins]

Hi Eileen,

You are, of course, right! Dismembering books is sometimes the only way to 
go, even when using the full Flat-Bed plus PC option, but if we can manage to 
scan without the destruction, then so much the better! One way to scan from a 
new paperback without causing too much damage to the spine, is to shoot one 
page at a time while keeping the other side of the book virticle, which is what 
I did in the sample I sent.

This is all getting very exciting! So, while we are in nostalgia mode (and 
I do hope not to be put back on moderation for going off topic!) I was, about 
4 years ago, prior to the emergence of the iPhone 4, my first iPhone, attending 
a special adaptive technology fair in Cork. I moved from stand to stand, 
playing with the various items for sale. Scanners, GPS devices, Braille 
displays, book readers etc. At each stall I asked howb much? and, always, the 
answer was somewhere in the thousands! I was assured that they were ll as cheap 
as possible given the special nature of their application. Well, I got mad! 
I had heard that the iPhone 4 would, potentially, do all of these things for me 
as an almost invisible fraction of the price and so I said I'll be back! And 
my iPhone will do all this firtually for free! They smirked and wished me 
luck. It was for this reason, among others, that I have dedicated so much time 
to making this work and not only work for those of us who were fortuante enough 
to be able to use the Apps free-hand, but for all of us! I reckon that, at 
last, we have got there! Things can only get better from now on.

So, to anyone here who receives their StandScan pro and can't get good 
enough results, please contact the rest of us, or, if you like, me off list, 
and between us all we will be able to help, because this is doable, that is for 
sure!

Hope your SSP comes today, Eileen, and that it is what you expect of it.

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Mar 2013, at 13:39, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sandy, 
 I am not sure that my comment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when 
 I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
 either OCR products. I would  pull the binding off  so I could lie a single 
 page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I only bring 
 this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or someone else 
 will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could preserve the 
 book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and I am looking 
 forward to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
 materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
 experiment with recipes.   Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier 
 for all us us to use Ocr on our iPhone. 
 
 Best,
 EileenHi Sandy, 
 I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when 
 I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
 either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie a 
 single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
 only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
 someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
 preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and I 
 am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
 materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
 experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
 use Ocr on our iPhone. 
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Hi Sandy, 
 I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when 
 I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
 either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie a 
 single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
 only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
 someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
 preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and I 
 am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
 materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
 experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
 use Ocr on our iPhone. 
 
 Best,
 EileenSentHi Sandy, 
 I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back when 
 I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well with 
 either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie a 
 single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
 only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
 someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, 

Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Sandy.

It was very good, I guessed that it was prizmo that has made such a good result.

I can tell a funny thing about scanning, a little offtopic, but interesting 
too. I had a very difficult cookbook, and my finereader pro 11 for windows, did 
not do very well, finereader 11 is one of the best programs for scanning. I 
bought prizmo for the mac for half of the normal price, I think it was about 
150 dkk, I had saved that terrible cookbook as a picture, I scanned it with 
prizmo, I got some amazing results with numbers e.g. 1/2, other things where 
not as perfect, but that had more to do with the size of the scanned book, it 
was a3. Prizmo is an app that both on the mac and also on IOS has been 
developed a lot over short time, I expect a lot of that in the future.

I hope my standscan pro will arrive some day, I will love to play with it.

I hope that some days the scanning apps for the phone will scan perfumes creams 
and such things, that can be really difficult to get any results at all. Yes 
and tins too.

What about barcodes? Can the standscan pro be of any help for locating and 
scanning barcodes a little quicker, it takes me a long time to get them located 
and scanned.

Best regards Annie.
On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Annie,
 
It wasn't bad, was it?
 
In the end, Prizmo took the prize! Text Grabber did well, but Prizmo dealt 
 best with the columns. However, this was my second shot, the first showed the 
 half frction for the lemon, but was less good elsewhere. So, why did it 
 mistake the fraction in one scan and not in the other? Why is it that when 
 you keep the book in precisely the same position and the lighting the same, 
 is it that you get differing results? This is, obviously, more to do with 
 software than the physical nature of scanning. There wasn't much between the 
 two, but I would suggest that having both apps will afford the best chance of 
 getting perfect/near perfect scans depending upon the layout/formatting of 
 the text. Also, if you are away from your StandScan pro, prizmo is still much 
 easier to use, it is more forgiving of slight skewing of the text.
 
Now, i am also interested to see how i can improve on rounded surfaces. 
 E.G. tins/bottles. Thus far, they prove difficult with tins doing better than 
 bottles of wine, this is because the diameter of a wine bottle is less than 
 the usual tin, so less curvature and less distorting of the text.
 
What is nice here is that we are beginning to speak of more difficult 
 aspects of scanning and not of the simple stuff which is very doable now with 
 these apps and the StandScan Pro. I think I have read that you are awaiting 
 yours? If I am right, please do let us know how you do with recipes etc, will 
 you? Many people here may not be interested in recipes, but may be interested 
 in, say, mathematical formulae or scientific symbols etc, getting good 
 results with recipes will help in working toward this IMHO.
 
Happy scanning and I could only wish that having scanned a recipe, I could 
 only get as proficient at actually cooking it!
 
Sandy. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 25 Mar 2013, at 12:35, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Sandra.
 
 Is this scanning done with textgrabber or prizmo.
 
 I have been scanning books for many years, and I can tell that cookbooks are 
 the most difficult books to get a sensible result from. I am really 
 impressed that you can get such results with a IPhone and standscan.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  I have just been playing with Text Grabber and Prizmo in conjunction with 
 my StandScan Pro. I decided to try them with a book that I attempted to 
 scan many years ago using a flat-bed scanner and Kurtzweil. My results, 
 possibly, ten or more years ago, were less than satisfactory. In fact, you 
 couldn't follow the recipes because the quantities were illegible. Now, in 
 many ways, the apps we have available to us on the iPhone, are in their 
 infancy. obviously, they are a fraction of the size of, say, Kurtzweil and, 
 also obviously, a fraction of the price. plus, now we are dealing with a 
 portable solution. When you want to read a letter, something simple with no 
 columns etc, both Prizmo and Text Grabber will do the job, especially when 
 using the StandScan Pro. However, imbedded columns and symbols for 
 grammes/ounces/fractions etc can prove daunting for these pocket sized OCR 
 packages. Now that we have a way to position the phone exactly, and we can 
 ensure perfect lighting conditions, when things go wrong it is more to do 
 with the scanning/OCR capability of a given app rather than the physicality 
 of scanning. Also, there is one other variable: to wit, when we use a 
 flat-bed scanner, the book we are scanning is facing down onto a flat 
 surface and gravity alone will