iMazing 3 accessibility

2024-08-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello,

I remember iMazing being discussed before, what is the current status of this 
app and accessibility with Jaws?
And since somebody probably asks what it does, it's a Windows app which allows 
you to connect to your iPhone and do many things you can do in iTunes and more 
like doing backups, copying music to your phone or from your phone back to the 
Pc, same fior photos and documents and it also allows you to export text and 
iMessages to your computer in PDF and printer friendly format.
I believe some things you can do for free, but for other features you have to 
either pay a one-time purchase price or pay an annual subscription. Here in 
Canadian Dollars this is $84.99 for the one-time purchase and $54.99 for the 
annual subscription.
As with most of such apps, I assume the one-time purchase is for use of the 
current version which is iMazing 3 and that if iMazing 4 is released you would 
either have to pay another one-time purchase price or subscribe.
If anybody is using it successfully I'd be quite interested to hear their 
feedback.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

2023-12-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
But that would only be the folder for photos since Apple does not give access 
to anything else unless maybe your iCloud folder, but you can access that by 
installing iCloud Control Panel.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I downloaded it to my Windows 7 computer and installed it, but I don't keep 
anything on my phone so there's nothing to transfer, except for my CoVid 
vaccination card picture.

I haven't been able to access my iPhone from my Windows7 computer for quite a 
while now, but installing this program put my iPhone into my list of drives and 
I could open the Internal Storage folder and subfolders.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:01 PM
Subject: RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

And have you confirmed as to whether it is accessible?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:25 PM
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Subject: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

Hi All,

I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds pretty 
good.  Have a look for yourselves.


https://imazing.com/

iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC

iMazing
Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.

iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
messages, music, files and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC.

Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer capabilities, 
and much more with iMazing.


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Re: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

2023-12-24 Thread Mike B.
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From: Diana Brent
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Mac


We have it and use it all the time to transfer beg iPhone and PC. It works 
great. We haven’t had to use iTunes forever.


Diana Brent

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac


As far as I recall, being able to see the phone as a drive only allows you 
to save your photos off the phone onto a PC.
It doesn't back up anything else simply from that drive listing.
I've not used that app so I'm not sure if it has a way to pull off your 
installed apps and do all that stuff for back up along with the content.




Richard, USA

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  On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:21 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  I downloaded it to my Windows 7 computer and installed it, but I don't 
keep anything on my phone so there's nothing to transfer, except for my 
CoVid vaccination card picture.

  I haven't been able to access my iPhone from my Windows7 computer for 
quite a while now, but installing this program put my iPhone into my list of 
drives and I could open the Internal Storage folder and subfolders.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:01 PM
  Subject: RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac


  And have you confirmed as to whether it is accessible?



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:25 PM
  To: VIPhone 
  Subject: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac



  Hi All,



  I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds 
pretty good.  Have a look for yourselves.





  https://imazing.com/



  iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC



  iMazing
  Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.



  iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
messages, music, files and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC.



  Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer 
capabilities, and much more with iMazing.





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Re: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

2023-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
As far as I recall, being able to see the phone as a drive only allows you to save your photos off the phone onto a PC.It doesn't back up anything else simply from that drive listing.I've not used that app so I'm not sure if it has a way to pull off your installed apps and do all that stuff for back up along with the content.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:21 AM, Mike B.  wrote:






I downloaded it to my Windows 7 computer and 
installed it, but I don't keep anything on my phone so there's nothing to 
transfer, except for my CoVid vaccination card picture.
 
I haven't been able to access my iPhone from 
my Windows7 computer for quite a while now, but installing this program put my 
iPhone into my list of drives and I could open the Internal Storage folder and 
subfolders.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:01 PM
Subject: RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or 
Mac


And have you confirmed as to whether it is 
accessible?
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Mike B.Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:25 
PMTo: VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: 
iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac
 

Hi 
All,

 

I 
heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds pretty 
good.  Have a look for yourselves.

 

 

https://imazing.com/

 

iMazing | iPhone, iPad 
& iPod Manager for Mac & PC

 

iMazingManage your 
iPhone.  On your terms.

 

iMazing is the world’s 
most trusted software to transfer and save your messages, music, files and data 
from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC.

 

Gain powerful backup, data 
extraction, media, and file transfer capabilities, and much more with iMazing. 


 

 

Take care.  
Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

2023-12-24 Thread Mike B.
I downloaded it to my Windows 7 computer and installed it, but I don't keep 
anything on my phone so there's nothing to transfer, except for my CoVid 
vaccination card picture.

I haven't been able to access my iPhone from my Windows7 computer for quite 
a while now, but installing this program put my iPhone into my list of 
drives and I could open the Internal Storage folder and subfolders.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:01 PM
Subject: RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac


And have you confirmed as to whether it is accessible?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:25 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac



Hi All,



I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds 
pretty good.  Have a look for yourselves.





https://imazing.com/



iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC



iMazing
Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.



iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
messages, music, files and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC.



Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer 
capabilities, and much more with iMazing.





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RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

2023-12-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And have you confirmed as to whether it is accessible?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:25 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

Hi All,

I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds pretty 
good.  Have a look for yourselves.


https://imazing.com/

iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC

iMazing
Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.

iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
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Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer capabilities, 
and much more with iMazing.


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iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

2023-12-23 Thread Mike B.
Hi All,

I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds 
pretty good.  Have a look for yourselves.


https://imazing.com/

iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC

iMazing
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Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer 
capabilities, and much more with iMazing.


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Re: iMazing Tutorial

2023-09-27 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I'd honestly stick with iTunes itself if you want to share files and
get them on to your iPhone.  I do this all the time, and have no
issues.  I've put loads of audio books and audio dramas into voice
dream reader using iTunes.  It is great.

On 9/27/23, Edward Przybylek  wrote:
> Hi Siegard,
>
>
>
> I purchased the software because I followed a discussion on one of the lists
> to which I subscribe saying that the software is very accessible and very
> useful.  So much for listening to others.  Thanks for responding.  Stay
> well.
>
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Ed Przybylek
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 1:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iMazing Tutorial
>
>
>
> Unfortunately I don't think it is very accessible and you may have wasted
> your money on that one.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Edward Przybylek
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RE: iMazing Tutorial

2023-09-27 Thread Edward Przybylek
Hi Siegard,

 

I purchased the software because I followed a discussion on one of the lists to 
which I subscribe saying that the software is very accessible and very useful.  
So much for listening to others.  Thanks for responding.  Stay well.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 1:11 AM
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Subject: RE: iMazing Tutorial

 

Unfortunately I don't think it is very accessible and you may have wasted  your 
money on that one.

 

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Hi all,

 

I purchased a license for iMazing and, on using it for the first time, I found 
the user interface very confusing.  Does anyone know of a tutorial for using 
the program?  Thank you and stay well.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

 

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iMazing Tutorial

2023-09-26 Thread Edward Przybylek
Hi all,

 

I purchased a license for iMazing and, on using it for the first time, I
found the user interface very confusing.  Does anyone know of a tutorial for
using the program?  Thank you and stay well.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

 

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RE: iMazing question:

2023-05-10 Thread Steve Cook
How about just setting your apps not to auto update, I have mine set that way. 

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I don't think that is possible.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 9:46 AM
To: VIPhone google group 
Subject: iMazing question:

If anyone is using iMazing for windows with an iPhone, I am considering buying 
it and wondered if it is possible to back up specific apps on the iPhone so 
that if newer versions become inaccessible I can upload the older version to 
the phone.


I realize that eventually changes in the operating system may make an old 
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RE: iMazing question:

2023-05-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I don't think that is possible.

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If anyone is using iMazing for windows with an iPhone, I am considering buying 
it and wondered if it is possible to back up specific apps on the iPhone so 
that if newer versions become inaccessible I can upload the older version to 
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iMazing question:

2023-05-09 Thread Donald Breda
If anyone is using iMazing for windows with an iPhone, I am considering 
buying it and wondered if it is possible to back up specific apps on the 
iPhone so that if newer versions become inaccessible I can upload the 
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Re: iMazing

2019-12-02 Thread Arlene
It's good to have 2 or 3 screen readers on any operating system at any time, 
and it's very easy to decide what screen reader is most important to you. And 
the other screen readers wouldn't get in the way of your main screen reader. In 
addition if you have a computer with hard drive caddys you could just go from 
windows 10 to windows 7, the flexability is unlimited, as easy as changing a 
cassette. This way you always have an operating system that works. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: iMazing


  Well, I was a private beta tester for Window-Eyes for more than 10 years. 
  In fact, I wrote some of the set files they included on their CD.
  The problem with using it in Windows 10, is that as Windows 10 makes changes, 
nothing is being done to keep Window-Eyes up to date.
  Yes, it might be worth installing for this one program, but the risk of other 
complications is just not worth it to me.
  More power to those who continue to use it.
  And, since the iMazing app is for access to iPhones and iPads, it is not off 
topic, in my opinion.
  But this topic is seemingly not going to go anywhere.
  So, I'll leave it lie.







  Richard
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On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:


 
Well, window-eyes will work in windows 10 but from what I've observed it 
seems to work real good in windows 7. I know there are quite a few window-eyes 
users that continue to use window-eyes in windows 10 and windows 7. It's 
definitely worth keeping around. and in certain situations it could actually 
make your computing experience a very good one. Since this is actually an 
iphone list, happy computing and happy iphoning.

Wayne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:47 AM
  Subject: Re: iMazing


  Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you. 
  It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped 
development.
  Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows 
10.







  Richard
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it." 
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On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:


Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with 
window-eyes, so that's where the difference is with our experience and your 
experience. We've observed over and over again, the big differences between 
screen readers and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and 
nvda, our best computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we 
will see how it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and 
nvda. Hopefully there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just as 
soon as we experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen 
readers, we'll let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
    I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and 
IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of 
which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the 
steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music 
library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is 
off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from 
folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing 
shows on the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not 
know if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

    The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you 
primarily have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws 
cursor under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a 
Windows 7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 P

Re: iMazing

2019-12-02 Thread Arlene
actually it's good to have both, itunes and imazing. There are things with 
itunes that we like to do, such as stream all things audio on our wifi 
network. Also since imazing uses all the apple drivers, you may as well have 
both.

Arlene and Wayne

- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: iMazing


I use mostly NVDA and sometimes hjaws on my windows7 computer.  If
this IMazing program will work, I'd like to use it.

On 11/30/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped
development.
Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows
10.




Richard
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On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:

Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes,
so that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience.
We've observed over and over again, the big differences between screen
readers and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and 
nvda,

our best computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we
will see how it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws 
and
nvda. Hopefully there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. 
Just
as soon as we experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other 
screen

readers, we'll let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and
IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items 
of

which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed
the steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud 
music
library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud 
music

is off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer
from folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but
nothing shows on the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not 
know

if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you 
primarily
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws 
cursor

under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a
Windows 7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help
since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version
soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able 
to

help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In
away it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader
friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on 
how

to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using
arrow keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at:
https://nam1

Re: iMazing

2019-12-02 Thread Arlene
Joshua, go ahead and give imazing a try. let us know if you need any help, 
and let us all know how you like using it.



- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: iMazing


I use mostly NVDA and sometimes hjaws on my windows7 computer.  If
this IMazing program will work, I'd like to use it.

On 11/30/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped
development.
Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows
10.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
Wagner


On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:

Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes,
so that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience.
We've observed over and over again, the big differences between screen
readers and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and 
nvda,

our best computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we
will see how it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws 
and
nvda. Hopefully there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. 
Just
as soon as we experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other 
screen

readers, we'll let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and
IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items 
of

which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed
the steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud 
music
library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud 
music

is off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer
from folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but
nothing shows on the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not 
know

if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you 
primarily
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws 
cursor

under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a
Windows 7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at:
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cffb1c97658a245ae3c9608d77551bd7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637106866233547536&sdata=sxOMnkY9%2B1BcVtkeZ94WkM9kjeQPSswgBO0Rw3TT%2B6U%3D&reserved=0

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help
since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version
soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able 
to

help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In
away it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader
friendly.

Arlene

----- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on 
how

to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using
arrow keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at:
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cffb1c97658a245ae3c9608d77551bd7c%7C84df9e7fe9f

Re: iMazing

2019-11-30 Thread Richard Turner
Well, I was a private beta tester for Window-Eyes for more than 10 years.
In fact, I wrote some of the set files they included on their CD.
The problem with using it in Windows 10, is that as Windows 10 makes changes, 
nothing is being done to keep Window-Eyes up to date.
Yes, it might be worth installing for this one program, but the risk of other 
complications is just not worth it to me.
More power to those who continue to use it.
And, since the iMazing app is for access to iPhones and iPads, it is not off 
topic, in my opinion.
But this topic is seemingly not going to go anywhere.
So, I'll leave it lie.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:


Well, window-eyes will work in windows 10 but from what I've observed it seems 
to work real good in windows 7. I know there are quite a few window-eyes users 
that continue to use window-eyes in windows 10 and windows 7. It's definitely 
worth keeping around. and in certain situations it could actually make your 
computing experience a very good one. Since this is actually an iphone list, 
happy computing and happy iphoning.

Wayne


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: iMazing

Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped 
development.
Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows 10.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:

Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes, so 
that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience. We've 
observed over and over again, the big differences between screen readers and 
operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda, our best 
computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we will see how 
it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and nvda. Hopefully 
there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just as soon as we 
experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen readers, we'll 
let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and IMazing 
has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of which music 
is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the steps of the 
online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music library on my 
iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is off and I 
even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from folder" 
option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing shows on 
the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know if 
the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a Windows 
7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cffb1c97658a245ae3c9608d77551bd7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637106866233547536&sdata=sxOMnkY9%2B1BcVtkeZ94WkM9kjeQPSswgBO0Rw3TT%2B6U%3D&reserved=0

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help since 
we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version

Re: iMazing

2019-11-30 Thread Arlene
Well, window-eyes will work in windows 10 but from what I've observed it seems 
to work real good in windows 7. I know there are quite a few window-eyes users 
that continue to use window-eyes in windows 10 and windows 7. It's definitely 
worth keeping around. and in certain situations it could actually make your 
computing experience a very good one. Since this is actually an iphone list, 
happy computing and happy iphoning.

Wayne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:47 AM
  Subject: Re: iMazing


  Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you. 
  It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped 
development.
  Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows 10.







  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner




On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:


Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes, 
so that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience. 
We've observed over and over again, the big differences between screen readers 
and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda, our best 
computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we will see how 
it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and nvda. Hopefully 
there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just as soon as we 
experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen readers, we'll 
let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and 
IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of 
which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the 
steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music 
library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is 
off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from 
folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing 
shows on the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know 
if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a Windows 
7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cffb1c97658a245ae3c9608d77551bd7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637106866233547536&sdata=sxOMnkY9%2B1BcVtkeZ94WkM9kjeQPSswgBO0Rw3TT%2B6U%3D&reserved=0

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help 
since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In away 
it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on 
how to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deci

Re: iMazing

2019-11-30 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I use mostly NVDA and sometimes hjaws on my windows7 computer.  If
this IMazing program will work, I'd like to use it.

On 11/30/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
> It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped
> development.
> Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows
> 10.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:
>
> Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes,
> so that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience.
> We've observed over and over again, the big differences between screen
> readers and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda,
> our best computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we
> will see how it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and
> nvda. Hopefully there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just
> as soon as we experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen
> readers, we'll let you all know our experience here on the list.
>
> Arlene and Wayne
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
> Subject: RE: iMazing
>
>
> Hello List
> I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and
> IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of
> which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed
> the steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music
> library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music
> is off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer
> from folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but
> nothing shows on the iPhone.
>
> Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know
> if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
> Regards
> Fanus
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iMazing
>
> The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily
> have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor
> under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a
> Windows 7 system.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iMazing
>
> I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.
>
> How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at:
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cffb1c97658a245ae3c9608d77551bd7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637106866233547536&sdata=sxOMnkY9%2B1BcVtkeZ94WkM9kjeQPSswgBO0Rw3TT%2B6U%3D&reserved=0
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Arlene
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMazing
>
> Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help
> since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version
> soon.
> What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to
> help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to
> transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In
> away it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader
> friendly.
>
> Arlene
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
> Subject: RE: iMazing
>
>
> Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.
>
> It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how
> to use the bloody program.
> You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before
> deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using
> arrow keys or tabbing.
> Saying it wor

Re: iMazing

2019-11-30 Thread Richard Turner
Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped 
development.
Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows 10.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:

Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes, so 
that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience. We've 
observed over and over again, the big differences between screen readers and 
operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda, our best 
computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we will see how 
it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and nvda. Hopefully 
there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just as soon as we 
experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen readers, we'll 
let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and IMazing 
has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of which music 
is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the steps of the 
online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music library on my 
iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is off and I 
even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from folder" 
option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing shows on 
the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know if 
the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a Windows 
7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cffb1c97658a245ae3c9608d77551bd7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637106866233547536&sdata=sxOMnkY9%2B1BcVtkeZ94WkM9kjeQPSswgBO0Rw3TT%2B6U%3D&reserved=0

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help since 
we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In away 
it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how to 
use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using arrow 
keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cffb1c97658a245ae3c9608d77551bd7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637106866233547536&sdata=sxOMnkY9%2B1BcVtkeZ94WkM9kjeQPSswgBO0Rw3TT%2B6U%3D&reserved=0

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMazing

Hello list
Is anyone using this successfully and if so, can I ask a few questions off list?
Regards
Fanus


--
The fol

Re: iMazing

2019-11-29 Thread Arlene
Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes, so 
that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience. 
We've observed over and over again, the big differences between screen 
readers and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda, 
our best computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we 
will see how it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and 
nvda. Hopefully there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just 
as soon as we experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen 
readers, we'll let you all know our experience here on the list.


Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - 
From: "Fanus Buys" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and 
IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of 
which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed 
the steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music 
library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music 
is off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer 
from folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but 
nothing shows on the iPhone.


Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know 
if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.

Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a 
Windows 7 system.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help 
since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In 
away it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader 
friendly.


Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how 
to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using 
arrow keys or tabbing.

Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

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Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMazing

Hello list
Is anyone using this successfully and if so, can I ask a few questions off 
list?

Regards
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RE: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and IMazing 
has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of which music 
is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the steps of the 
online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music library on my 
iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is off and I 
even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from folder" 
option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing shows on 
the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know if 
the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a Windows 
7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help since 
we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon. 
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In away 
it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how to 
use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using arrow 
keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
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Subject: iMazing

Hello list
Is anyone using this successfully and if so, can I ask a few questions off list?
Regards
Fanus


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RE: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a Windows 
7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help since 
we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon. 
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In away 
it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how to 
use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using arrow 
keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
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Subject: iMazing

Hello list
Is anyone using this successfully and if so, can I ask a few questions off list?
Regards
Fanus


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RE: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Arlene,

Why don't you simply provide instructions how  you accomplish a couple of 
tasks, for example, give a step-by-step description of how you transfer a 
ringtone from your computer to the iPhone using iMazing.
Just make sure you mention the screenreader you are using and which version, 
you already said you are still on Windows 7.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help since 
we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon. 
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In away 
it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how 
to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using 
arrow keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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Buys
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
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Subject: iMazing

Hello list
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Regards
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RE: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Richard Turner
I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



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Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help since 
we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon. 
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In away 
it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how 
to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using 
arrow keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

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Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
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RE: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Carolyn
Yes, I'd rather them be on list too. If not helpful, can always delete, but if 
not presented, out of luck. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how to 
use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using arrow 
keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
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Subject: iMazing

Hello list
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Fanus


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Re: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Arlene
Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help 
since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon. 
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In 
away it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader 
friendly.


Arlene

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Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how 
to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using 
arrow keys or tabbing.

Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

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RE: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Richard Turner
Its supposed to be a way to manage your iPhone/iPad content without having to 
use iTunes.
It is supposed to have some free features and the full version normally costs 
$44.99 but is on sale for $22.49 for Black Friday.
But, it is difficult at best to figure out as it clearly is not built for 
accessibility.
So, I'm not going to buy it unless someone, somewhere, spells out how to do 
things.
ON Applevis, there is a comment that it is useable, but the menus are "fiddly." 
So very helpful indeed.

I can use iTunes well enough so I think I will end up uninstalling iMazing, 
since it isn't very amazing to me; or even iMazing.




Richard

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Ask on List

> List by all means. Actually, I’d like to know what the program is Nov 28, 
> 2019, at 7:11 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.
> 
> It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how 
> to use the bloody program.
> You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
> deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using 
> arrow keys or tabbing.
> Saying it works, is not useful.
> Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
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Re: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread brian albriton
Ask on List

> List by all means. Actually, I’d like to know what the program is Nov 28, 
> 2019, at 7:11 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.
> 
> It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how 
> to use the bloody program.
> You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
> deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using 
> arrow keys or tabbing.
> Saying it works, is not useful.
> Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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RE: iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Richard Turner
Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how to 
use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
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Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

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Hello list
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iMazing

2019-11-28 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello list
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iMazing was about WLTR2

2019-10-29 Thread Richard Turner
I’ve started a new thread but I copied the old message from the for Joe … 
thread.


I’m not a user yet, but I suspect that no, it won’t transfer playlists.
Since it bypasses itunes.

But, if you have a playlist in iTunes, you should be able to simply sync your 
phone with iTunes and have the playlist appear on your phone.
I don’t know because I create my playlists on the phone, not through itunes.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

For those of you guys trying the Amazing program, can you for instance, have 
the music ready in Playlists like with ITunes, and transfer it that way to the 
phone, without you having to through the iPhone’s music app, create these 
playlists?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 29 oct 2019, a la(s) 5:43 a. m., Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> escribió:

Hello Arlene
How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the music 
then stored on the iPod?
Regards
Fanus


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
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Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an Apple 
device.
Sent from my iPhone



On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com<mailto:richr...@gmail.com> wrote:

You cannot purchase music with it can you?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino
I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.
Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.
I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.
Sent from my iPhone




On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing.
I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner




On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Richard
I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.
Regards
Fanus
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Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino
People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.






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RE: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

2019-10-29 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Richard

Thanks so much. 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

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Here you go with the imazing web site prices in the US.


iMazing 2 License


Image removed by sender. iMazing 2 Single License


Single


$44.99

· License for 1 computer

· Mac or PC

· All iMazing 2.x updates

· 7/7 support

Buy

Image removed by sender. iMazing 2 Universal License


Universal


$89.98

$49.99

· License for 2 computers

· Mac and PC

· All iMazing 2.x updates

· 7/7 support

· Save $39.99

Buy

Image removed by sender. iMazing 2 Family License


Family


$224.95

$69.99

· License for 5 computers

· Mac and PC

· All iMazing 2.x updates

· 7/7 support

· Save $154.96

Buy

 

Our order process is conducted by our online reseller  <https://paddle.com/> 
Paddle.com. Paddle is the Merchant of Record for all our orders.

Image removed by sender. 

 

 

 

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Thanks for the link. I installed the trial and I can navigate the menus with 
JAWS but I have not yet connected my iPod Touch. Although they say one can 
transfer from pc to iDevice they only describe how to do it from iDevice to PC 
but I can not find an explanation how to put music on the iDevice from the pc. 
Also, when I try to look what the price is, they do not show a decimal point in 
the amount so when I convert that amount which they give in South African rand 
to us Dollar it comes to $4300 which I can not believe to be so much for the 
software, so can anyone give the US dollar price so that I can convert it 
myself. If I put a decimal point before the second last digit then it is 699.99 
rand which is about 43 US dollar which is quite cheap if the software can do 
what they claim.

Regards

Fanus

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless 
iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

HERE is the link to the Imazing web site. This is not a recommendation since I 
have not figured out how to use it as it does not seem that screen reader 
friendly, and no one has given any specifics other than they can use it. 
Everything you could want to know about it is explained on their web site other 
than how to use it with a screen reader. 

https://imazing.com/ 
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Re: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

2019-10-28 Thread Richard Turner
Here you go with the imazing web site prices in the US.
iMazing 2 License
[iMazing 2 Single License]
Single
$44.99

  *   License for 1 computer
  *   Mac or PC
  *   All iMazing 2.x updates
  *   7/7 support

Buy
[iMazing 2 Universal License]
Universal
$89.98
$49.99

  *   License for 2 computers
  *   Mac and PC
  *   All iMazing 2.x updates
  *   7/7 support

  *   Save $39.99

Buy
[iMazing 2 Family License]
Family
$224.95
$69.99

  *   License for 5 computers
  *   Mac and PC
  *   All iMazing 2.x updates
  *   7/7 support

  *   Save $154.96

Buy


Our order process is conducted by our online reseller 
Paddle.com<https://paddle.com/>. Paddle is the Merchant of Record for all our 
orders.

[https://imazing.com/img/icons/store-upgrade.svg]



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On Oct 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


Hello Richard
Thanks for the link. I installed the trial and I can navigate the menus with 
JAWS but I have not yet connected my iPod Touch. Although they say one can 
transfer from pc to iDevice they only describe how to do it from iDevice to PC 
but I can not find an explanation how to put music on the iDevice from the pc. 
Also, when I try to look what the price is, they do not show a decimal point in 
the amount so when I convert that amount which they give in South African rand 
to us Dollar it comes to $4300 which I can not believe to be so much for the 
software, so can anyone give the US dollar price so that I can convert it 
myself. If I put a decimal point before the second last digit then it is 699.99 
rand which is about 43 US dollar which is quite cheap if the software can do 
what they claim.
Regards
Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless 
iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

HERE is the link to the Imazing web site. This is not a recommendation since I 
have not figured out how to use it as it does not seem that screen reader 
friendly, and no one has given any specifics other than they can use it. 
Everything you could want to know about it is explained on their web site other 
than how to use it with a screen reader.
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RE: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

2019-10-28 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Richard

Thanks for the link. I installed the trial and I can navigate the menus with 
JAWS but I have not yet connected my iPod Touch. Although they say one can 
transfer from pc to iDevice they only describe how to do it from iDevice to PC 
but I can not find an explanation how to put music on the iDevice from the pc. 
Also, when I try to look what the price is, they do not show a decimal point in 
the amount so when I convert that amount which they give in South African rand 
to us Dollar it comes to $4300 which I can not believe to be so much for the 
software, so can anyone give the US dollar price so that I can convert it 
myself. If I put a decimal point before the second last digit then it is 699.99 
rand which is about 43 US dollar which is quite cheap if the software can do 
what they claim.

Regards

Fanus

 

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Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless 
iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

HERE is the link to the Imazing web site. This is not a recommendation since I 
have not figured out how to use it as it does not seem that screen reader 
friendly, and no one has given any specifics other than they can use it. 
Everything you could want to know about it is explained on their web site other 
than how to use it with a screen reader. 

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2019-10-28 Thread Richard Turner
HERE is the link to the Imazing web site. This is not a recommendation since I 
have not figured out how to use it as it does not seem that screen reader 
friendly, and no one has given any specifics other than they can use it. 
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Re: iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone and iPad

2017-05-19 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello Mary,

No I did not get it from the app store. I downloaded the free trial from their 
website: http://imazing.com <http://imazing.com/> It seems to work ok with 
VoiceOver. The best way I have found to use the interface is to utilize the 
side bar navigation to access the content on the device. The sections that must 
be interacted with are not labeled for VoiceOver users, but if you can remember 
how many sections in every category it isn’t to bad to navigate with VO. I have 
found that if you use the hint keyboard command you can figure out what some of 
the unlabeled buttons are. I then used VO + / to label the button on the Mac. I 
have not tried to do so, but you might be able to put a lebel on the unlabeled 
sections. It’s worth a try.

Ed
> On May 19, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed, did you get that app on the Mac App Store? I can't remember what the 
> article said, and right now I'm using my phone.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 19, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Ed Worrell  <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> From what I can tell from the demo for Mac os it is very useable so far. 
>> There are some sections that have unlabeled buttons. The buttons have hint 
>> tags that work with VO however. I have plugged my iPhone into the computer 
>> and can see and access all of my media, and contacts, etc. I am still 
>> playing with it and will post to the list after I figure out more.
>> 
>> I hope this helps,
>> 
>> Ed You can hear what the button does by pressing VO + shift + H on the 
>> button to hear the help tag.
>>> On May 18, 2017, at 3:41 PM, rajmund . >> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> with NVDA, no. the furthest I got with these things, was the demo version 
>>> of iExplore, with a combination of narrator and NVDA on windows 10. this 
>>> one, when I tried the demo, unless I'm confusing it, on the windows side of 
>>> things, was no hope.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Thunderbird
>>> 
>>> On 16/05/17 7:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>> I wonder if anyone has used this app, this iteration of this app that
>>>> is, and has any comments on VoiceOver accessibility. The whole back up
>>>> and restore think that the author describes sounds really nice. But the
>>>> app does cost $40. So you don't want to buy it unless it's accessible.
>>>> That might be why maybe nobody's tried it yet.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone
>>>> and iPad
>>>> Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter
>>>> 
>>>> iMazing <https://imazing.com <https://imazing.com/>> ($40 for a 
>>>> single-user license; multi-user
>>>> licenses available) is an iOS device management utility designed as an
>>>> alternative to iTunes. Available for Mac or PC (the license can be used
>>>> on either platform), iMazing doesn’t sync files in the traditional
>>>> sense, but rather acts as a conduit for transferring files between
>>>> desktop computers and iPhone, iPad, or iPod devices.
>>>> 
>>>> Think of iMazing as iTunes without media purchasing or playback, but a
>>>> whole lot more versatile. iMazing also does many things Apple’s media
>>>> player can only dream of, like exporting iMessage conversations. Annoyed
>>>> by how iTunes saves device backups on your internal drive? With iMazing,
>>>> you can store these enormous files anywhere you’d like, and browse
>>>> archives with Time Machine-style simplicity. (Archives work on Mac or
>>>> PC-formatted volumes, not on network-attached storage devices.)
>>>> 
>>>> imazing 2.2 backup optionsJ. R. Bookwalter/IDG
>>>> 
>>>> iMazing allows iOS device backups to be saved anywhere, but only Mac or
>>>> PC formatted volumes work for archives.
>>>> 
>>>> In addition to managing apps, photos, music, videos, notes, call logs,
>>>> and voice memos, iMazing 2.2 adds the ability to transfer ebooks and PDF
>>>> documents to iBooks. Better yet, photos can now be transferred from
>>>> computer to iOS via drag-and-drop, although albums created this way
>>>> can’t be deleted from the Photos app and won’t be included in backups.
>>>> 
>>>> There are other limitations to be aware of. Certain data types including
>>>> Messages, call history, voicemail, Contacts, a

Re: iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone and iPad

2017-05-19 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Ed, did you get that app on the Mac App Store? I can't remember what the 
article said, and right now I'm using my phone.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> From what I can tell from the demo for Mac os it is very useable so far. 
> There are some sections that have unlabeled buttons. The buttons have hint 
> tags that work with VO however. I have plugged my iPhone into the computer 
> and can see and access all of my media, and contacts, etc. I am still playing 
> with it and will post to the list after I figure out more.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Ed You can hear what the button does by pressing VO + shift + H on the button 
> to hear the help tag.
>> On May 18, 2017, at 3:41 PM, rajmund .  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> with NVDA, no. the furthest I got with these things, was the demo version of 
>> iExplore, with a combination of narrator and NVDA on windows 10. this one, 
>> when I tried the demo, unless I'm confusing it, on the windows side of 
>> things, was no hope.
>> 
>> Sent from Thunderbird
>> 
>>> On 16/05/17 7:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> I wonder if anyone has used this app, this iteration of this app that
>>> is, and has any comments on VoiceOver accessibility. The whole back up
>>> and restore think that the author describes sounds really nice. But the
>>> app does cost $40. So you don't want to buy it unless it's accessible.
>>> That might be why maybe nobody's tried it yet.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone
>>> and iPad
>>> Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter
>>> 
>>> iMazing <https://imazing.com> ($40 for a single-user license; multi-user
>>> licenses available) is an iOS device management utility designed as an
>>> alternative to iTunes. Available for Mac or PC (the license can be used
>>> on either platform), iMazing doesn’t sync files in the traditional
>>> sense, but rather acts as a conduit for transferring files between
>>> desktop computers and iPhone, iPad, or iPod devices.
>>> 
>>> Think of iMazing as iTunes without media purchasing or playback, but a
>>> whole lot more versatile. iMazing also does many things Apple’s media
>>> player can only dream of, like exporting iMessage conversations. Annoyed
>>> by how iTunes saves device backups on your internal drive? With iMazing,
>>> you can store these enormous files anywhere you’d like, and browse
>>> archives with Time Machine-style simplicity. (Archives work on Mac or
>>> PC-formatted volumes, not on network-attached storage devices.)
>>> 
>>> imazing 2.2 backup optionsJ. R. Bookwalter/IDG
>>> 
>>> iMazing allows iOS device backups to be saved anywhere, but only Mac or
>>> PC formatted volumes work for archives.
>>> 
>>> In addition to managing apps, photos, music, videos, notes, call logs,
>>> and voice memos, iMazing 2.2 adds the ability to transfer ebooks and PDF
>>> documents to iBooks. Better yet, photos can now be transferred from
>>> computer to iOS via drag-and-drop, although albums created this way
>>> can’t be deleted from the Photos app and won’t be included in backups.
>>> 
>>> There are other limitations to be aware of. Certain data types including
>>> Messages, call history, voicemail, Contacts, and Notes can only be
>>> accessed from a backup, rather than the device itself. As a result,
>>> iMazing occasionally feels slower to use than iTunes. My personal pet
>>> peeve is how long the application takes to perform an initial scan of
>>> iCloud Photo Library thumbnails, although devices with fewer images
>>> won’t have this problem.
>>> 
>>> imazing 2.2 stock2DigiDNA
>>> 
>>> iMazing can also access and export text messages, but only from an
>>> existing device backup.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Restore and transfer
>>> 
>>> One of iMazing’s coolest features is the ability to copy content between
>>> devices, quite handy for upgrading to a new iPhone or iPad. Rather than
>>> restore from iTunes or a lengthy iCloud backup, you simply connect both
>>> devices, start the transfer, and sit back while the software does its
>>> thing. It’s a more streamlined process that puts Apple’s cumbersome
>>> method to shame.
>>> 
>>> iMazing 2.2 makes other welcome improvements to the traditionally
>>> front-loaded restore process. Rather tha

Re: iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone and iPad

2017-05-19 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello Mary,

>From what I can tell from the demo for Mac os it is very useable so far. There 
>are some sections that have unlabeled buttons. The buttons have hint tags that 
>work with VO however. I have plugged my iPhone into the computer and can see 
>and access all of my media, and contacts, etc. I am still playing with it and 
>will post to the list after I figure out more.

I hope this helps,

Ed You can hear what the button does by pressing VO + shift + H on the button 
to hear the help tag.
> On May 18, 2017, at 3:41 PM, rajmund .  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> with NVDA, no. the furthest I got with these things, was the demo version of 
> iExplore, with a combination of narrator and NVDA on windows 10. this one, 
> when I tried the demo, unless I'm confusing it, on the windows side of 
> things, was no hope.
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
> 
> On 16/05/17 7:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> I wonder if anyone has used this app, this iteration of this app that
>> is, and has any comments on VoiceOver accessibility. The whole back up
>> and restore think that the author describes sounds really nice. But the
>> app does cost $40. So you don't want to buy it unless it's accessible.
>> That might be why maybe nobody's tried it yet.
>> Mary
>> 
>> iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone
>> and iPad
>> Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter
>> 
>> iMazing <https://imazing.com <https://imazing.com/>> ($40 for a single-user 
>> license; multi-user
>> licenses available) is an iOS device management utility designed as an
>> alternative to iTunes. Available for Mac or PC (the license can be used
>> on either platform), iMazing doesn’t sync files in the traditional
>> sense, but rather acts as a conduit for transferring files between
>> desktop computers and iPhone, iPad, or iPod devices.
>> 
>> Think of iMazing as iTunes without media purchasing or playback, but a
>> whole lot more versatile. iMazing also does many things Apple’s media
>> player can only dream of, like exporting iMessage conversations. Annoyed
>> by how iTunes saves device backups on your internal drive? With iMazing,
>> you can store these enormous files anywhere you’d like, and browse
>> archives with Time Machine-style simplicity. (Archives work on Mac or
>> PC-formatted volumes, not on network-attached storage devices.)
>> 
>> imazing 2.2 backup optionsJ. R. Bookwalter/IDG
>> 
>> iMazing allows iOS device backups to be saved anywhere, but only Mac or
>> PC formatted volumes work for archives.
>> 
>> In addition to managing apps, photos, music, videos, notes, call logs,
>> and voice memos, iMazing 2.2 adds the ability to transfer ebooks and PDF
>> documents to iBooks. Better yet, photos can now be transferred from
>> computer to iOS via drag-and-drop, although albums created this way
>> can’t be deleted from the Photos app and won’t be included in backups.
>> 
>> There are other limitations to be aware of. Certain data types including
>> Messages, call history, voicemail, Contacts, and Notes can only be
>> accessed from a backup, rather than the device itself. As a result,
>> iMazing occasionally feels slower to use than iTunes. My personal pet
>> peeve is how long the application takes to perform an initial scan of
>> iCloud Photo Library thumbnails, although devices with fewer images
>> won’t have this problem.
>> 
>> imazing 2.2 stock2DigiDNA
>> 
>> iMazing can also access and export text messages, but only from an
>> existing device backup.
>> 
>> 
>>Restore and transfer
>> 
>> One of iMazing’s coolest features is the ability to copy content between
>> devices, quite handy for upgrading to a new iPhone or iPad. Rather than
>> restore from iTunes or a lengthy iCloud backup, you simply connect both
>> devices, start the transfer, and sit back while the software does its
>> thing. It’s a more streamlined process that puts Apple’s cumbersome
>> method to shame.
>> 
>> iMazing 2.2 makes other welcome improvements to the traditionally
>> front-loaded restore process. Rather than having to connect a new device
>> via Wi-Fi to activate and update to the latest version of iOS, iMazing
>> seamlessly handles these tasks as part of its restore wizard.
>> 
>> imazing 2.2 restore wizardDigiDNA
>> 
>> Restoring backups to a new device just got way easier thanks to
>> iMazing’s one-click transfer wizard.
>> 
>> You’ll endure fewer annoying iOS Setup Assistant screens during a
>> restore, since the software automatically takes care of m

Re: iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone and iPad

2017-05-18 Thread rajmund .

hi,
with NVDA, no. the furthest I got with these things, was the demo 
version of iExplore, with a combination of narrator and NVDA on windows 
10. this one, when I tried the demo, unless I'm confusing it, on the 
windows side of things, was no hope.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 16/05/17 7:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I wonder if anyone has used this app, this iteration of this app that
is, and has any comments on VoiceOver accessibility. The whole back up
and restore think that the author describes sounds really nice. But the
app does cost $40. So you don't want to buy it unless it's accessible.
That might be why maybe nobody's tried it yet.
Mary

iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone
and iPad
Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter

iMazing <https://imazing.com> ($40 for a single-user license; multi-user
licenses available) is an iOS device management utility designed as an
alternative to iTunes. Available for Mac or PC (the license can be used
on either platform), iMazing doesn’t sync files in the traditional
sense, but rather acts as a conduit for transferring files between
desktop computers and iPhone, iPad, or iPod devices.

Think of iMazing as iTunes without media purchasing or playback, but a
whole lot more versatile. iMazing also does many things Apple’s media
player can only dream of, like exporting iMessage conversations. Annoyed
by how iTunes saves device backups on your internal drive? With iMazing,
you can store these enormous files anywhere you’d like, and browse
archives with Time Machine-style simplicity. (Archives work on Mac or
PC-formatted volumes, not on network-attached storage devices.)

imazing 2.2 backup optionsJ. R. Bookwalter/IDG

iMazing allows iOS device backups to be saved anywhere, but only Mac or
PC formatted volumes work for archives.

In addition to managing apps, photos, music, videos, notes, call logs,
and voice memos, iMazing 2.2 adds the ability to transfer ebooks and PDF
documents to iBooks. Better yet, photos can now be transferred from
computer to iOS via drag-and-drop, although albums created this way
can’t be deleted from the Photos app and won’t be included in backups.

There are other limitations to be aware of. Certain data types including
Messages, call history, voicemail, Contacts, and Notes can only be
accessed from a backup, rather than the device itself. As a result,
iMazing occasionally feels slower to use than iTunes. My personal pet
peeve is how long the application takes to perform an initial scan of
iCloud Photo Library thumbnails, although devices with fewer images
won’t have this problem.

imazing 2.2 stock2DigiDNA

iMazing can also access and export text messages, but only from an
existing device backup.


Restore and transfer

One of iMazing’s coolest features is the ability to copy content between
devices, quite handy for upgrading to a new iPhone or iPad. Rather than
restore from iTunes or a lengthy iCloud backup, you simply connect both
devices, start the transfer, and sit back while the software does its
thing. It’s a more streamlined process that puts Apple’s cumbersome
method to shame.

iMazing 2.2 makes other welcome improvements to the traditionally
front-loaded restore process. Rather than having to connect a new device
via Wi-Fi to activate and update to the latest version of iOS, iMazing
seamlessly handles these tasks as part of its restore wizard.

imazing 2.2 restore wizardDigiDNA

Restoring backups to a new device just got way easier thanks to
iMazing’s one-click transfer wizard.

You’ll endure fewer annoying iOS Setup Assistant screens during a
restore, since the software automatically takes care of many account
login prompts for you. (Signing in to install App Store updates is still
required, however.) Similar conveniences extend to updating or
reinstalling iOS itself. Since devices are always connected to the
utility over Wi-Fi, iMazing detects when the current version is out of
date and offers to update with a click.

You can also do the same with a complete reinstall, even during a
restore. Although like iTunes, you won’t be able to downgrade to older
iOS versions once Apple has stopped signing them. There are plenty of
smaller improvements too, like a new preferences tab for Devices, with
options to prevent iTunes from performing automatic backups or launching
after connecting a device.


Bottom line

Keep iTunes around for buying or playing media files, but when it comes
to managing iOS devices and transferring media files, it doesn’t get
much better than iMazing 2.



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http://www.macworld.com/article/3196571/software/imazing-2-2-review-a-better-way-to-use-your-mac-to-manage-your-iphone-and-ipad.html#tk.rss_all



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iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone and iPad

2017-05-16 Thread Mary Otten
I wonder if anyone has used this app, this iteration of this app that is, and 
has any comments on VoiceOver accessibility. The whole back up and restore 
think that the author describes sounds really nice. But the app does cost $40. 
So you don't want to buy it unless it's accessible. That might be why maybe 
nobody's tried it yet.
Mary

iMazing 2.2 review: A better way to use your Mac to manage your iPhone and iPad
Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter

iMazing ($40 for a single-user license; multi-user licenses available) is an 
iOS device management utility designed as an alternative to iTunes. Available 
for Mac or PC (the license can be used on either platform), iMazing doesn’t 
sync files in the traditional sense, but rather acts as a conduit for 
transferring files between desktop computers and iPhone, iPad, or iPod devices.

Think of iMazing as iTunes without media purchasing or playback, but a whole 
lot more versatile. iMazing also does many things Apple’s media player can only 
dream of, like exporting iMessage conversations. Annoyed by how iTunes saves 
device backups on your internal drive? With iMazing, you can store these 
enormous files anywhere you’d like, and browse archives with Time Machine-style 
simplicity. (Archives work on Mac or PC-formatted volumes, not on 
network-attached storage devices.)

J. R. Bookwalter/IDG
iMazing allows iOS device backups to be saved anywhere, but only Mac or PC 
formatted volumes work for archives.

In addition to managing apps, photos, music, videos, notes, call logs, and 
voice memos, iMazing 2.2 adds the ability to transfer ebooks and PDF documents 
to iBooks. Better yet, photos can now be transferred from computer to iOS via 
drag-and-drop, although albums created this way can’t be deleted from the 
Photos app and won’t be included in backups.

There are other limitations to be aware of. Certain data types including 
Messages, call history, voicemail, Contacts, and Notes can only be accessed 
from a backup, rather than the device itself. As a result, iMazing occasionally 
feels slower to use than iTunes. My personal pet peeve is how long the 
application takes to perform an initial scan of iCloud Photo Library 
thumbnails, although devices with fewer images won’t have this problem.

DigiDNA
iMazing can also access and export text messages, but only from an existing 
device backup.

Restore and transfer

One of iMazing’s coolest features is the ability to copy content between 
devices, quite handy for upgrading to a new iPhone or iPad. Rather than restore 
from iTunes or a lengthy iCloud backup, you simply connect both devices, start 
the transfer, and sit back while the software does its thing. It’s a more 
streamlined process that puts Apple’s cumbersome method to shame.

iMazing 2.2 makes other welcome improvements to the traditionally front-loaded 
restore process. Rather than having to connect a new device via Wi-Fi to 
activate and update to the latest version of iOS, iMazing seamlessly handles 
these tasks as part of its restore wizard.

DigiDNA
Restoring backups to a new device just got way easier thanks to iMazing’s 
one-click transfer wizard.

You’ll endure fewer annoying iOS Setup Assistant screens during a restore, 
since the software automatically takes care of many account login prompts for 
you. (Signing in to install App Store updates is still required, however.) 
Similar conveniences extend to updating or reinstalling iOS itself. Since 
devices are always connected to the utility over Wi-Fi, iMazing detects when 
the current version is out of date and offers to update with a click.

You can also do the same with a complete reinstall, even during a restore. 
Although like iTunes, you won’t be able to downgrade to older iOS versions once 
Apple has stopped signing them. There are plenty of smaller improvements too, 
like a new preferences tab for Devices, with options to prevent iTunes from 
performing automatic backups or launching after connecting a device.

Bottom line

Keep iTunes around for buying or playing media files, but when it comes to 
managing iOS devices and transferring media files, it doesn’t get much better 
than iMazing 2.



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Re: iMazing and IPA files

2016-10-09 Thread Christina C.
Bummer.  Thanks but I want this particular version and the app store will 
download the latest version instead of this slightly older version. :) 

Christina
> On Oct 9, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
> 
> Not anymore, as per Apple restrictions/app thinning. However, you can
> download the app directly to your computer through the App Store via
> iTunes on your PC/Mac.
> 
> On 10/9/2016 11:04 PM, Christina C. wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Will iMazing allow you to take an IPA file from an iDevice and put it on a 
>> Mac? I’d love to get a particular version of an app from my iDevice backed 
>> up to my Mac. I don’t necessarily need the document files for that app but I 
>> need the actual app. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
>> 
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Re: iMazing and IPA files

2016-10-09 Thread Shaf Patel
Not anymore, as per Apple restrictions/app thinning. However, you can
download the app directly to your computer through the App Store via
iTunes on your PC/Mac.

On 10/9/2016 11:04 PM, Christina C. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Will iMazing allow you to take an IPA file from an iDevice and put it on a 
> Mac? I’d love to get a particular version of an app from my iDevice backed up 
> to my Mac. I don’t necessarily need the document files for that app but I 
> need the actual app. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina
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iMazing and IPA files

2016-10-09 Thread Christina C.
Hello,

Will iMazing allow you to take an IPA file from an iDevice and put it on a Mac? 
I’d love to get a particular version of an app from my iDevice backed up to my 
Mac. I don’t necessarily need the document files for that app but I need the 
actual app. 

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: ANYONE TRIED iMAZING 2

2016-10-08 Thread 1baby1...@gmail.com

I've had iMazing for over a year now. I like it and find it very accessible. I 
don't use it a lot because I tend to back up over the air, but I'll try to 
answer any questions you have.

Lynette On Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:11:00 UTC-3, Carol Pearson  wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> 
> I saw that iPhone Life was advertising the above and havfe the trial 
> version. Due to the limitations, I probably can't really decide how good 
> I think it is. I'm also a little stumped with a few things and haven't 
> really the time to dig into the hows and whys in order to get it going 
> right now. In addition, I think the offer is probably out now. I would 
> however be glad to know if anyone who has purchased is finding it 
> successful and, if so, if I might write you off list with a couple of 
> queries, please?
> 
> 
> Carol P - UK



On Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:11:00 UTC-3, Carol Pearson  wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> 
> I saw that iPhone Life was advertising the above and havfe the trial 
> version. Due to the limitations, I probably can't really decide how good 
> I think it is. I'm also a little stumped with a few things and haven't 
> really the time to dig into the hows and whys in order to get it going 
> right now. In addition, I think the offer is probably out now. I would 
> however be glad to know if anyone who has purchased is finding it 
> successful and, if so, if I might write you off list with a couple of 
> queries, please?
> 
> 
> Carol P - UK

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ANYONE TRIED iMAZING 2

2016-10-08 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

Hi there,


I saw that iPhone Life was advertising the above and havfe the trial 
version. Due to the limitations, I probably can't really decide how good 
I think it is. I'm also a little stumped with a few things and haven't 
really the time to dig into the hows and whys in order to get it going 
right now. In addition, I think the offer is probably out now. I would 
however be glad to know if anyone who has purchased is finding it 
successful and, if so, if I might write you off list with a couple of 
queries, please?



Carol P - UK


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Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-21 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi alan,

The only way I know to be absolutely sure all your apps are on your computer is 
to choose Apps in iTunes, right-click each app, and make sure it doesn't say it 
can't find the file. As I understand it, any app shortcut that no longer points 
to an app file looks different than regular apps, so a sighted person could 
spot check. You could also open the Mobile Apps folder and see which apps are 
listed there.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 20, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Anna,
>  
> Thanks much for this clarification.
>  
> It sounds like when I finally move to iTunes 12.x and iOS 9.x, I just need to 
> take care that any apps downloaded straight to my iPhone get transferred to 
> my computer. I admit that I'm still a bit confused how I'll get these apps 
> into my computer if ticking the Transfer Purchases option in iTunes no longer 
> guarantees they get copied to the computer. If this no longer works, how are 
> apps directly transferred to your iPhone uploaded to the computer? Does a 
> sync accomplish this because I don't think it did in the past?
>  
> Alan
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows
>  
> Hi alan,
>  
> You can still download apps from the app store into iTunes, and I'm pretty 
> sure that if you restore from an iTunes backup, you'll get whatever version 
> of the app you have in iTunes. I had about 45 apps that for some reason were 
> not in the Mobile Apps folder on my computer, and when I tried to restore my 
> new phone from an iTunes backup, I couldn't get those apps. So clearly iTunes 
> was looking to its own library to restore the apps, rather than downloading 
> them from the Internet.
>  
> I think that what has changed is that you can't count on Transfer Purchases 
> to automatically copy whatever apps you have on your phone to your computer. 
> With the app that wasn't in the app store, I deleted the shortcut to it that 
> was in my iTunes library, connected my old phone, and chose Transfer 
> Purchases. The app wasn't copied to my phone. I also tried backing up that 
> phone, and the app still wasn't copied. So if you have an app in your 
> library, it should be copied to your phone when you restore from an iTunes 
> backup. But if the app isn't on your computer, the only way to get it there 
> is to download it from the iTunes store.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Alan Lemly > <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Anna,
>>  
>> I haven't read all of this thread but I think I've read enough to get the 
>> gist.
>>  
>> I'm concerned because what I've gathered is that users will no longer be 
>> able to manage backups of their apps on their local computers. Am I 
>> interpreting this thread correctly about that? Does this also mean that 
>> fetching an app using iTunes on ones' computer instead of grabbing it with 
>> your iDevice will no longer be possible?
>>  
>> My major concern is that not everyone chooses to use the latest and often 
>> not the greatest version of an app. For example, I use Audible version 2.4.2 
>> versus the current version 2.6.x and I'm still using Fleksy VO which is no 
>> longer available in the Apps Store. If my iPhone croaks or if I choose to 
>> upgrade it, what versions of my apps that I've backed up using iTunes will 
>> be restored to my replacement iPhone should I do an iTunes restore if I'm 
>> not able to save my apps locally?
>>  
>> Is Apple going to force everyone to be on the latest version of an app 
>> should a restore be required? I'm not confident they are going to track the 
>> specific app versions everyone is running and make those various versions 
>> available for download from the cloud. This would certainly be possible but 
>> I'm doubtful that model will be pursued. It is much less costly for them to 
>> try an force the current versions on everyone.
>>  
>> I hope I've missed something and what I've outlined above will not be the 
>> practice going forward but I welcome clarification and further comments on 
>> this issue.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:

RE: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-20 Thread Alan Lemly
Anna,

 

Thanks much for this clarification.

 

It sounds like when I finally move to iTunes 12.x and iOS 9.x, I just need
to take care that any apps downloaded straight to my iPhone get transferred
to my computer. I admit that I'm still a bit confused how I'll get these
apps into my computer if ticking the Transfer Purchases option in iTunes no
longer guarantees they get copied to the computer. If this no longer works,
how are apps directly transferred to your iPhone uploaded to the computer?
Does a sync accomplish this because I don't think it did in the past?

 

Alan

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

 

Hi alan,

 

You can still download apps from the app store into iTunes, and I'm pretty
sure that if you restore from an iTunes backup, you'll get whatever version
of the app you have in iTunes. I had about 45 apps that for some reason were
not in the Mobile Apps folder on my computer, and when I tried to restore my
new phone from an iTunes backup, I couldn't get those apps. So clearly
iTunes was looking to its own library to restore the apps, rather than
downloading them from the Internet.

 

I think that what has changed is that you can't count on Transfer Purchases
to automatically copy whatever apps you have on your phone to your computer.
With the app that wasn't in the app store, I deleted the shortcut to it that
was in my iTunes library, connected my old phone, and chose Transfer
Purchases. The app wasn't copied to my phone. I also tried backing up that
phone, and the app still wasn't copied. So if you have an app in your
library, it should be copied to your phone when you restore from an iTunes
backup. But if the app isn't on your computer, the only way to get it there
is to download it from the iTunes store.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Anna,

 

I haven't read all of this thread but I think I've read enough to get the
gist.

 

I'm concerned because what I've gathered is that users will no longer be
able to manage backups of their apps on their local computers. Am I
interpreting this thread correctly about that? Does this also mean that
fetching an app using iTunes on ones' computer instead of grabbing it with
your iDevice will no longer be possible?

 

My major concern is that not everyone chooses to use the latest and often
not the greatest version of an app. For example, I use Audible version 2.4.2
versus the current version 2.6.x and I'm still using Fleksy VO which is no
longer available in the Apps Store. If my iPhone croaks or if I choose to
upgrade it, what versions of my apps that I've backed up using iTunes will
be restored to my replacement iPhone should I do an iTunes restore if I'm
not able to save my apps locally?

 

Is Apple going to force everyone to be on the latest version of an app
should a restore be required? I'm not confident they are going to track the
specific app versions everyone is running and make those various versions
available for download from the cloud. This would certainly be possible but
I'm doubtful that model will be pursued. It is much less costly for them to
try an force the current versions on everyone.

 

I hope I've missed something and what I've outlined above will not be the
practice going forward but I welcome clarification and further comments on
this issue.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

 

Hi Ari,

 

That's certainly been my experience, and that's also what Apple tech support
said. Annoying, and I'd like to be proven wrong, but all the evidence I've
encountered recently suggests that it's true.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:11 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Apps not being backed up when you do a back up makes sense, but not when you
do a transfer purchases. Are you sure? That's such a core functionality of
iTunes, that it would surprise me if it was removed.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Ari,

 

Apparently in iOS 9, apps aren't backed up to the computer when you do an
iTunes backup or transfer purchases. The iMazing tech support guy gave me
the following link, which makes for interesting reading on the subject:

 <https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9>
https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9

 

Bes

Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-20 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

I'll leavfe well alone then!  Thanks!

Carol P

On 18/10/2015 16:38, Richard Turner wrote:


OK, my last comment on this application. I found a review on cNet from 
a user from July of this year.


 |  Version: iMazing 1.2.1

Pros

i could find nothing about the software that was a positive. i removed 
it and bought another solution


Cons

After i loaded the product I could not get the files to transfer. I 
contacted the help desk on 5 different because they would suggest 
something that didn't work After my 3rd email I asked for a phone 
number,so I could talk with a human to solve the problem. They did not 
provide me with a number. They told me in an email they had an 
update,they were releasing the next day that would resolve the issue. 
It did not resolve the issue. The help desk was extremely slow in 
responding. Since I was getting a solution I decided to post to their 
Facebook page. They responded then, they did refund the cost of the 
software. They told me they took my comment down because it wasn't 
accurate.


Summary

The product didn't work and they didn't support the product to make it 
work. Their support was weak at best. My feedback this is not a 
solution keep looking.Their service and product are pathetic


I am going to try to contact the reviewer and find out what the other 
solution was they bought.


Richard

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Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-20 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
I was a bit confused too because there appeared a divided opinion 
as to whether it worked or not.  (Perhaps I misread.)


Could anyone enlighten me as to whether it's worth a try and if there 
are any problems in using this instead of iTunes?


Thanks.

Carol P

On 18/10/2015 06:37, chris wrote:

An alternative to iTunes for managing your device, in a nutshell.

On 18/10/2015 02:50, Christina C. wrote:
What do you use this for? I read the description but I was kind of 
confused.


Christina


On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.

On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA 
and find it mostly useless.
I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that 
was also not very accessible.
So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use 
this app?


Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative


I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to 
comment how accessible it is, please.


BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative



Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He 
said that there is both a Mac and a Windows version.


A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative


Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite 
that helpful.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative


Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not 
been able to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S,

be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using 
iTunes for Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the
same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to 
how to resolve this problem.

I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility 
support number.


As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just 
provide the sum and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to
know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had 
dedicated an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too,

was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience 
using iTunes for Windows.  He said yes.


2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between 
the 5 S running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with

a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that 
there may be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I
had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem 
has been reported to Apple since as early as the first release of
iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when 
he returned to the line, after visiting the site containing the
reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine 
was an isolated issue.


4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he 
inadvertently admitted that he was using a Mac to help me
troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some 
system files that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I
called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows 
PC during our call.


The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of 
iTunes, to sync my iOS devices.


I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking 
on the matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and,
thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took 
in order to resolve the

problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after 
unhiding the system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was
initially downloaded in iTunes.  Do

Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-20 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi alan,

You can still download apps from the app store into iTunes, and I'm pretty sure 
that if you restore from an iTunes backup, you'll get whatever version of the 
app you have in iTunes. I had about 45 apps that for some reason were not in 
the Mobile Apps folder on my computer, and when I tried to restore my new phone 
from an iTunes backup, I couldn't get those apps. So clearly iTunes was looking 
to its own library to restore the apps, rather than downloading them from the 
Internet.

I think that what has changed is that you can't count on Transfer Purchases to 
automatically copy whatever apps you have on your phone to your computer. With 
the app that wasn't in the app store, I deleted the shortcut to it that was in 
my iTunes library, connected my old phone, and chose Transfer Purchases. The 
app wasn't copied to my phone. I also tried backing up that phone, and the app 
still wasn't copied. So if you have an app in your library, it should be copied 
to your phone when you restore from an iTunes backup. But if the app isn't on 
your computer, the only way to get it there is to download it from the iTunes 
store.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Anna,
>  
> I haven't read all of this thread but I think I've read enough to get the 
> gist.
>  
> I'm concerned because what I've gathered is that users will no longer be able 
> to manage backups of their apps on their local computers. Am I interpreting 
> this thread correctly about that? Does this also mean that fetching an app 
> using iTunes on ones' computer instead of grabbing it with your iDevice will 
> no longer be possible?
>  
> My major concern is that not everyone chooses to use the latest and often not 
> the greatest version of an app. For example, I use Audible version 2.4.2 
> versus the current version 2.6.x and I'm still using Fleksy VO which is no 
> longer available in the Apps Store. If my iPhone croaks or if I choose to 
> upgrade it, what versions of my apps that I've backed up using iTunes will be 
> restored to my replacement iPhone should I do an iTunes restore if I'm not 
> able to save my apps locally?
>  
> Is Apple going to force everyone to be on the latest version of an app should 
> a restore be required? I'm not confident they are going to track the specific 
> app versions everyone is running and make those various versions available 
> for download from the cloud. This would certainly be possible but I'm 
> doubtful that model will be pursued. It is much less costly for them to try 
> an force the current versions on everyone.
>  
> I hope I've missed something and what I've outlined above will not be the 
> practice going forward but I welcome clarification and further comments on 
> this issue.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 12:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows
>  
> Hi Ari,
>  
> That's certainly been my experience, and that's also what Apple tech support 
> said. Annoying, and I'd like to be proven wrong, but all the evidence I've 
> encountered recently suggests that it's true.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:11 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Apps not being backed up when you do a back up makes sense, but not when you 
>> do a transfer purchases. Are you sure? That's such a core functionality of 
>> iTunes, that it would surprise me if it was removed.
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Woody Anna Dresner > <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ari,
>>>  
>>> Apparently in iOS 9, apps aren't backed up to the computer when you do an 
>>> iTunes backup or transfer purchases. The iMazing tech support guy gave me 
>>> the following link, which makes for interesting reading on the subject:
>>> https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9 
>>> <https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9>
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:34 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> That seems really weird. I would completely restart the computer and 
>>

RE: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-20 Thread Alan Lemly
Anna,

 

I haven't read all of this thread but I think I've read enough to get the
gist.

 

I'm concerned because what I've gathered is that users will no longer be
able to manage backups of their apps on their local computers. Am I
interpreting this thread correctly about that? Does this also mean that
fetching an app using iTunes on ones' computer instead of grabbing it with
your iDevice will no longer be possible?

 

My major concern is that not everyone chooses to use the latest and often
not the greatest version of an app. For example, I use Audible version 2.4.2
versus the current version 2.6.x and I'm still using Fleksy VO which is no
longer available in the Apps Store. If my iPhone croaks or if I choose to
upgrade it, what versions of my apps that I've backed up using iTunes will
be restored to my replacement iPhone should I do an iTunes restore if I'm
not able to save my apps locally?

 

Is Apple going to force everyone to be on the latest version of an app
should a restore be required? I'm not confident they are going to track the
specific app versions everyone is running and make those various versions
available for download from the cloud. This would certainly be possible but
I'm doubtful that model will be pursued. It is much less costly for them to
try an force the current versions on everyone.

 

I hope I've missed something and what I've outlined above will not be the
practice going forward but I welcome clarification and further comments on
this issue.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

 

Hi Ari,

 

That's certainly been my experience, and that's also what Apple tech support
said. Annoying, and I'd like to be proven wrong, but all the evidence I've
encountered recently suggests that it's true.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:11 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Apps not being backed up when you do a back up makes sense, but not when you
do a transfer purchases. Are you sure? That's such a core functionality of
iTunes, that it would surprise me if it was removed.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Ari,

 

Apparently in iOS 9, apps aren't backed up to the computer when you do an
iTunes backup or transfer purchases. The iMazing tech support guy gave me
the following link, which makes for interesting reading on the subject:

 <https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9>
https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:34 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 

That seems really weird. I would completely restart the computer and iPhone,
and then try again, just in case.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Oct 18, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hello Ari,

 

that's exactly what I thought when I started this process, but it turned out
not to be the case. According to the tech support guy at Apple, an iTunes
backup is exactly like an iCloud backup, in that only the data is backed up,
not the apps. As near as I can tell, if you choose transfer Purchases, which
I always do before backing up, any new apps on your phone are copied to your
computer. Older apps are not copied, however. This is true even if the app
isn't in your iTunes library.

 

The app I was having trouble with was in my library at some point, but
somehow it got deleted from the Mobile Apps folder on my computer. When I
realized this, I deleted the entry for the app from my iTunes library and
synced my old phone with my computer, fully expecting the app to be copied
from my phone to my computer. It wasn't, and the tech support guy said that
was to be expected. Frustrating, but apparently that's the way it is.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:19 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able to
sync the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new phone.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

 

I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old iPhone
that is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and I was
hoping to be able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to my
computer and then transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do it, but I
got a response within about 12 hours from someone who tried to help. I
responded, and he responded back within just a few hours. It turns out that
due to an Apple policy, I can't get the app onto my new phone, but at least
their tech support was fast and res

Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-19 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Christina,

This is a good thought, but I doubt I have it in Time Capsule because last 
summer I had to restore from an iTunes backup, and a lot of apps were missing. 
I downloaded them on my phone, but now I know I should have downloaded them 
with my computer and then transferred them to my phone. Fortunately, this isn't 
a critical app. I really appreciate your trying to help, though.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Anna,
> 
> I can’t remember but are you on a Mac? Is it possible that you might have a 
> copy of that app in a time capsule backup or some other similar backup?
> 
> Best of luck,
> Christina
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner > <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ari,
>> 
>> That's certainly been my experience, and that's also what Apple tech support 
>> said. Annoying, and I'd like to be proven wrong, but all the evidence I've 
>> encountered recently suggests that it's true.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:11 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apps not being backed up when you do a back up makes sense, but not when 
>>> you do a transfer purchases. Are you sure? That's such a core functionality 
>>> of iTunes, that it would surprise me if it was removed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Woody Anna Dresner >> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ari,
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently in iOS 9, apps aren't backed up to the computer when you do an 
>>>> iTunes backup or transfer purchases. The iMazing tech support guy gave me 
>>>> the following link, which makes for interesting reading on the subject:
>>>> https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9 
>>>> <https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9>
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:34 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That seems really weird. I would completely restart the computer and 
>>>>> iPhone, and then try again, just in case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ari
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Woody Anna Dresner >>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Ari,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> that's exactly what I thought when I started this process, but it turned 
>>>>>> out not to be the case. According to the tech support guy at Apple, an 
>>>>>> iTunes backup is exactly like an iCloud backup, in that only the data is 
>>>>>> backed up, not the apps. As near as I can tell, if you choose transfer 
>>>>>> Purchases, which I always do before backing up, any new apps on your 
>>>>>> phone are copied to your computer. Older apps are not copied, however. 
>>>>>> This is true even if the app isn't in your iTunes library.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The app I was having trouble with was in my library at some point, but 
>>>>>> somehow it got deleted from the Mobile Apps folder on my computer. When 
>>>>>> I realized this, I deleted the entry for the app from my iTunes library 
>>>>>> and synced my old phone with my computer, fully expecting the app to be 
>>>>>> copied from my phone to my computer. It wasn't, and the tech support guy 
>>>>>> said that was to be expected. Frustrating, but apparently that's the way 
>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:19 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able 
>>>>>>> to sync the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new 
>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>

Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-19 Thread Christina C.
Anna,

I can’t remember but are you on a Mac? Is it possible that you might have a 
copy of that app in a time capsule backup or some other similar backup?

Best of luck,
Christina
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> That's certainly been my experience, and that's also what Apple tech support 
> said. Annoying, and I'd like to be proven wrong, but all the evidence I've 
> encountered recently suggests that it's true.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:11 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Apps not being backed up when you do a back up makes sense, but not when you 
>> do a transfer purchases. Are you sure? That's such a core functionality of 
>> iTunes, that it would surprise me if it was removed.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Woody Anna Dresner > <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ari,
>>> 
>>> Apparently in iOS 9, apps aren't backed up to the computer when you do an 
>>> iTunes backup or transfer purchases. The iMazing tech support guy gave me 
>>> the following link, which makes for interesting reading on the subject:
>>> https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9 
>>> <https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9>
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:34 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That seems really weird. I would completely restart the computer and 
>>>> iPhone, and then try again, just in case.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ari
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Woody Anna Dresner >>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Ari,
>>>>> 
>>>>> that's exactly what I thought when I started this process, but it turned 
>>>>> out not to be the case. According to the tech support guy at Apple, an 
>>>>> iTunes backup is exactly like an iCloud backup, in that only the data is 
>>>>> backed up, not the apps. As near as I can tell, if you choose transfer 
>>>>> Purchases, which I always do before backing up, any new apps on your 
>>>>> phone are copied to your computer. Older apps are not copied, however. 
>>>>> This is true even if the app isn't in your iTunes library.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The app I was having trouble with was in my library at some point, but 
>>>>> somehow it got deleted from the Mobile Apps folder on my computer. When I 
>>>>> realized this, I deleted the entry for the app from my iTunes library and 
>>>>> synced my old phone with my computer, fully expecting the app to be 
>>>>> copied from my phone to my computer. It wasn't, and the tech support guy 
>>>>> said that was to be expected. Frustrating, but apparently that's the way 
>>>>> it is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:19 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able 
>>>>>> to sync the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new 
>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ari
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner >>>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old 
>>>>>>> iPhone that is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and 
>>>>>>> I was hoping to be able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to 
>>>>>>> my computer and then transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do 
>>>>>>> it, but I got a response within about 12 hours from someone who tried 
>>>>>>> to help. I responded, and he

Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-19 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Ari,

That's certainly been my experience, and that's also what Apple tech support 
said. Annoying, and I'd like to be proven wrong, but all the evidence I've 
encountered recently suggests that it's true.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:11 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Apps not being backed up when you do a back up makes sense, but not when you 
> do a transfer purchases. Are you sure? That's such a core functionality of 
> iTunes, that it would surprise me if it was removed.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ari,
>> 
>> Apparently in iOS 9, apps aren't backed up to the computer when you do an 
>> iTunes backup or transfer purchases. The iMazing tech support guy gave me 
>> the following link, which makes for interesting reading on the subject:
>> https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9 
>> <https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9>
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:34 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That seems really weird. I would completely restart the computer and 
>>> iPhone, and then try again, just in case.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Woody Anna Dresner >> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Ari,
>>>> 
>>>> that's exactly what I thought when I started this process, but it turned 
>>>> out not to be the case. According to the tech support guy at Apple, an 
>>>> iTunes backup is exactly like an iCloud backup, in that only the data is 
>>>> backed up, not the apps. As near as I can tell, if you choose transfer 
>>>> Purchases, which I always do before backing up, any new apps on your phone 
>>>> are copied to your computer. Older apps are not copied, however. This is 
>>>> true even if the app isn't in your iTunes library.
>>>> 
>>>> The app I was having trouble with was in my library at some point, but 
>>>> somehow it got deleted from the Mobile Apps folder on my computer. When I 
>>>> realized this, I deleted the entry for the app from my iTunes library and 
>>>> synced my old phone with my computer, fully expecting the app to be copied 
>>>> from my phone to my computer. It wasn't, and the tech support guy said 
>>>> that was to be expected. Frustrating, but apparently that's the way it is.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:19 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able to 
>>>>> sync the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ari
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner >>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old 
>>>>>> iPhone that is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and 
>>>>>> I was hoping to be able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to 
>>>>>> my computer and then transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do it, 
>>>>>> but I got a response within about 12 hours from someone who tried to 
>>>>>> help. I responded, and he responded back within just a few hours. It 
>>>>>> turns out that due to an Apple policy, I can't get the app onto my new 
>>>>>> phone, but at least their tech support was fast and responsive. I will 
>>>>>> probably uninstall the app because I don't think it will do more for me 
>>>>>> than iTunes can, but I wanted to let people know the company does seem 
>>>>>> to be improving their tech support.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Ric

Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-19 Thread englishrider91
Apps not being backed up when you do a back up makes sense, but not when you do 
a transfer purchases. Are you sure? That's such a core functionality of iTunes, 
that it would surprise me if it was removed.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> Apparently in iOS 9, apps aren't backed up to the computer when you do an 
> iTunes backup or transfer purchases. The iMazing tech support guy gave me the 
> following link, which makes for interesting reading on the subject:
> https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:34 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> That seems really weird. I would completely restart the computer and iPhone, 
>> and then try again, just in case.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ari,
>>> 
>>> that's exactly what I thought when I started this process, but it turned 
>>> out not to be the case. According to the tech support guy at Apple, an 
>>> iTunes backup is exactly like an iCloud backup, in that only the data is 
>>> backed up, not the apps. As near as I can tell, if you choose transfer 
>>> Purchases, which I always do before backing up, any new apps on your phone 
>>> are copied to your computer. Older apps are not copied, however. This is 
>>> true even if the app isn't in your iTunes library.
>>> 
>>> The app I was having trouble with was in my library at some point, but 
>>> somehow it got deleted from the Mobile Apps folder on my computer. When I 
>>> realized this, I deleted the entry for the app from my iTunes library and 
>>> synced my old phone with my computer, fully expecting the app to be copied 
>>> from my phone to my computer. It wasn't, and the tech support guy said that 
>>> was to be expected. Frustrating, but apparently that's the way it is.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:19 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able to 
>>>> sync the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new phone.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ari
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old iPhone 
>>>>> that is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and I was 
>>>>> hoping to be able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to my 
>>>>> computer and then transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do it, but 
>>>>> I got a response within about 12 hours from someone who tried to help. I 
>>>>> responded, and he responded back within just a few hours. It turns out 
>>>>> that due to an Apple policy, I can't get the app onto my new phone, but 
>>>>> at least their tech support was fast and responsive. I will probably 
>>>>> uninstall the app because I don't think it will do more for me than 
>>>>> iTunes can, but I wanted to let people know the company does seem to be 
>>>>> improving their tech support.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, my last comment on this application.  I found a review on cNet from 
>>>>>> a user from July of this year.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  |  Version: iMazing 1.2.1 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Pros 
>>>>>> i could find nothing about the software that was a positive. i removed 
>>>>>> it and bought another solution 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Cons 
>>>>>> After i loaded the product I could not get the files to transfer. I 
>>>>>> contacted the help desk on 5 different because they would suggest 
>>>>>> something that didn't work After my 3rd email I asked for a phone 
>>>>>> number,so I could talk with a human to so

Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-19 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Ari,

Apparently in iOS 9, apps aren't backed up to the computer when you do an 
iTunes backup or transfer purchases. The iMazing tech support guy gave me the 
following link, which makes for interesting reading on the subject:
https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9 
<https://imazing.com/blog/why-did-apple-kill-app-extraction-in-ios-9>

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:34 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> That seems really weird. I would completely restart the computer and iPhone, 
> and then try again, just in case.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Oct 18, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Ari,
>> 
>> that's exactly what I thought when I started this process, but it turned out 
>> not to be the case. According to the tech support guy at Apple, an iTunes 
>> backup is exactly like an iCloud backup, in that only the data is backed up, 
>> not the apps. As near as I can tell, if you choose transfer Purchases, which 
>> I always do before backing up, any new apps on your phone are copied to your 
>> computer. Older apps are not copied, however. This is true even if the app 
>> isn't in your iTunes library.
>> 
>> The app I was having trouble with was in my library at some point, but 
>> somehow it got deleted from the Mobile Apps folder on my computer. When I 
>> realized this, I deleted the entry for the app from my iTunes library and 
>> synced my old phone with my computer, fully expecting the app to be copied 
>> from my phone to my computer. It wasn't, and the tech support guy said that 
>> was to be expected. Frustrating, but apparently that's the way it is.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:19 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able to 
>>> sync the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner >> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old iPhone 
>>>> that is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and I was 
>>>> hoping to be able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to my 
>>>> computer and then transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do it, but 
>>>> I got a response within about 12 hours from someone who tried to help. I 
>>>> responded, and he responded back within just a few hours. It turns out 
>>>> that due to an Apple policy, I can't get the app onto my new phone, but at 
>>>> least their tech support was fast and responsive. I will probably 
>>>> uninstall the app because I don't think it will do more for me than iTunes 
>>>> can, but I wanted to let people know the company does seem to be improving 
>>>> their tech support.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner >>>> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, my last comment on this application.  I found a review on cNet from a 
>>>>> user from July of this year.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  |  Version: iMazing 1.2.1 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Pros 
>>>>> i could find nothing about the software that was a positive. i removed it 
>>>>> and bought another solution 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Cons 
>>>>> After i loaded the product I could not get the files to transfer. I 
>>>>> contacted the help desk on 5 different because they would suggest 
>>>>> something that didn't work After my 3rd email I asked for a phone 
>>>>> number,so I could talk with a human to solve the problem. They did not 
>>>>> provide me with a number. They told me in an email they had an 
>>>>> update,they were releasing the next day that would resolve the issue. It 
>>>>> did not resolve the issue. The help desk was extremely slow in 
>>>>> responding. Since I was getting a solution I decided to post to their 
>>>>> Facebook page. They r

Re: backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-18 Thread englishrider91
That seems really weird. I would completely restart the computer and iPhone, 
and then try again, just in case.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 18, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hello Ari,
> 
> that's exactly what I thought when I started this process, but it turned out 
> not to be the case. According to the tech support guy at Apple, an iTunes 
> backup is exactly like an iCloud backup, in that only the data is backed up, 
> not the apps. As near as I can tell, if you choose transfer Purchases, which 
> I always do before backing up, any new apps on your phone are copied to your 
> computer. Older apps are not copied, however. This is true even if the app 
> isn't in your iTunes library.
> 
> The app I was having trouble with was in my library at some point, but 
> somehow it got deleted from the Mobile Apps folder on my computer. When I 
> realized this, I deleted the entry for the app from my iTunes library and 
> synced my old phone with my computer, fully expecting the app to be copied 
> from my phone to my computer. It wasn't, and the tech support guy said that 
> was to be expected. Frustrating, but apparently that's the way it is.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:19 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able to 
>> sync the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new phone.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old iPhone 
>>> that is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and I was 
>>> hoping to be able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to my 
>>> computer and then transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do it, but I 
>>> got a response within about 12 hours from someone who tried to help. I 
>>> responded, and he responded back within just a few hours. It turns out that 
>>> due to an Apple policy, I can't get the app onto my new phone, but at least 
>>> their tech support was fast and responsive. I will probably uninstall the 
>>> app because I don't think it will do more for me than iTunes can, but I 
>>> wanted to let people know the company does seem to be improving their tech 
>>> support.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK, my last comment on this application.  I found a review on cNet from a 
>>>> user from July of this year.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  |  Version: iMazing 1.2.1 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Pros 
>>>> i could find nothing about the software that was a positive. i removed it 
>>>> and bought another solution 
>>>>  
>>>> Cons 
>>>> After i loaded the product I could not get the files to transfer. I 
>>>> contacted the help desk on 5 different because they would suggest 
>>>> something that didn't work After my 3rd email I asked for a phone 
>>>> number,so I could talk with a human to solve the problem. They did not 
>>>> provide me with a number. They told me in an email they had an update,they 
>>>> were releasing the next day that would resolve the issue. It did not 
>>>> resolve the issue. The help desk was extremely slow in responding. Since I 
>>>> was getting a solution I decided to post to their Facebook page. They 
>>>> responded then, they did refund the cost of the software. They told me 
>>>> they took my comment down because it wasn't accurate. 
>>>>  
>>>> Summary 
>>>> The product didn't work and they didn't support the product to make it 
>>>> work. Their support was weak at best. My feedback this is not a solution 
>>>> keep looking.Their service and product are pathetic 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> I am going to try to contact the reviewer and find out what the other 
>>>> solution was they bought.
>>>> Richard
>>>>  
>>>> 
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backing up apps to iTunes - was Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hello Ari,

that's exactly what I thought when I started this process, but it turned out 
not to be the case. According to the tech support guy at Apple, an iTunes 
backup is exactly like an iCloud backup, in that only the data is backed up, 
not the apps. As near as I can tell, if you choose transfer Purchases, which I 
always do before backing up, any new apps on your phone are copied to your 
computer. Older apps are not copied, however. This is true even if the app 
isn't in your iTunes library.

The app I was having trouble with was in my library at some point, but somehow 
it got deleted from the Mobile Apps folder on my computer. When I realized 
this, I deleted the entry for the app from my iTunes library and synced my old 
phone with my computer, fully expecting the app to be copied from my phone to 
my computer. It wasn't, and the tech support guy said that was to be expected. 
Frustrating, but apparently that's the way it is.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:19 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able to 
> sync the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new phone.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old iPhone 
>> that is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and I was 
>> hoping to be able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to my 
>> computer and then transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do it, but I 
>> got a response within about 12 hours from someone who tried to help. I 
>> responded, and he responded back within just a few hours. It turns out that 
>> due to an Apple policy, I can't get the app onto my new phone, but at least 
>> their tech support was fast and responsive. I will probably uninstall the 
>> app because I don't think it will do more for me than iTunes can, but I 
>> wanted to let people know the company does seem to be improving their tech 
>> support.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner >> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, my last comment on this application.  I found a review on cNet from a 
>>> user from July of this year.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  |  Version: iMazing 1.2.1 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Pros 
>>> i could find nothing about the software that was a positive. i removed it 
>>> and bought another solution 
>>>  
>>> Cons 
>>> After i loaded the product I could not get the files to transfer. I 
>>> contacted the help desk on 5 different because they would suggest something 
>>> that didn't work After my 3rd email I asked for a phone number,so I could 
>>> talk with a human to solve the problem. They did not provide me with a 
>>> number. They told me in an email they had an update,they were releasing the 
>>> next day that would resolve the issue. It did not resolve the issue. The 
>>> help desk was extremely slow in responding. Since I was getting a solution 
>>> I decided to post to their Facebook page. They responded then, they did 
>>> refund the cost of the software. They told me they took my comment down 
>>> because it wasn't accurate. 
>>>  
>>> Summary 
>>> The product didn't work and they didn't support the product to make it 
>>> work. Their support was weak at best. My feedback this is not a solution 
>>> keep looking.Their service and product are pathetic 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I am going to try to contact the reviewer and find out what the other 
>>> solution was they bought.
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-18 Thread englishrider91
Are both the phones using the same Apple ID? If so, you should be able to sync 
the old phone to iTunes, and then transfer the app to the new phone.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old iPhone 
> that is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and I was hoping 
> to be able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to my computer and 
> then transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do it, but I got a response 
> within about 12 hours from someone who tried to help. I responded, and he 
> responded back within just a few hours. It turns out that due to an Apple 
> policy, I can't get the app onto my new phone, but at least their tech 
> support was fast and responsive. I will probably uninstall the app because I 
> don't think it will do more for me than iTunes can, but I wanted to let 
> people know the company does seem to be improving their tech support.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, my last comment on this application.  I found a review on cNet from a 
>> user from July of this year.
>>  
>>  
>>  |  Version: iMazing 1.2.1 
>>  
>>  
>> Pros 
>> i could find nothing about the software that was a positive. i removed it 
>> and bought another solution 
>>  
>> Cons 
>> After i loaded the product I could not get the files to transfer. I 
>> contacted the help desk on 5 different because they would suggest something 
>> that didn't work After my 3rd email I asked for a phone number,so I could 
>> talk with a human to solve the problem. They did not provide me with a 
>> number. They told me in an email they had an update,they were releasing the 
>> next day that would resolve the issue. It did not resolve the issue. The 
>> help desk was extremely slow in responding. Since I was getting a solution I 
>> decided to post to their Facebook page. They responded then, they did refund 
>> the cost of the software. They told me they took my comment down because it 
>> wasn't accurate. 
>>  
>> Summary 
>> The product didn't work and they didn't support the product to make it work. 
>> Their support was weak at best. My feedback this is not a solution keep 
>> looking.Their service and product are pathetic 
>>  
>>  
>> I am going to try to contact the reviewer and find out what the other 
>> solution was they bought.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
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Re: iMazing for Windows

2015-10-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

I tried to use the Mac version of this app. I had an app on my old iPhone that 
is no longer in the app store and isn't on my computer, and I was hoping to be 
able to use iMazing to copy it from the old phone to my computer and then 
transfer it to my new phone. I was unable to do it, but I got a response within 
about 12 hours from someone who tried to help. I responded, and he responded 
back within just a few hours. It turns out that due to an Apple policy, I can't 
get the app onto my new phone, but at least their tech support was fast and 
responsive. I will probably uninstall the app because I don't think it will do 
more for me than iTunes can, but I wanted to let people know the company does 
seem to be improving their tech support.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, my last comment on this application.  I found a review on cNet from a 
> user from July of this year.
>  
>  
>  |  Version: iMazing 1.2.1 
>  
>  
> Pros 
> i could find nothing about the software that was a positive. i removed it and 
> bought another solution 
>  
> Cons 
> After i loaded the product I could not get the files to transfer. I contacted 
> the help desk on 5 different because they would suggest something that didn't 
> work After my 3rd email I asked for a phone number,so I could talk with a 
> human to solve the problem. They did not provide me with a number. They told 
> me in an email they had an update,they were releasing the next day that would 
> resolve the issue. It did not resolve the issue. The help desk was extremely 
> slow in responding. Since I was getting a solution I decided to post to their 
> Facebook page. They responded then, they did refund the cost of the software. 
> They told me they took my comment down because it wasn't accurate. 
>  
> Summary 
> The product didn't work and they didn't support the product to make it work. 
> Their support was weak at best. My feedback this is not a solution keep 
> looking.Their service and product are pathetic 
>  
>  
> I am going to try to contact the reviewer and find out what the other 
> solution was they bought.
> Richard
>  
> 
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iMazing for Windows

2015-10-18 Thread Richard Turner
OK, my last comment on this application.  I found a review on cNet from a
user from July of this year.

 

 

 |  Version: iMazing 1.2.1 

 

 

Pros 

i could find nothing about the software that was a positive. i removed it
and bought another solution 

 

Cons 

After i loaded the product I could not get the files to transfer. I
contacted the help desk on 5 different because they would suggest something
that didn't work After my 3rd email I asked for a phone number,so I could
talk with a human to solve the problem. They did not provide me with a
number. They told me in an email they had an update,they were releasing the
next day that would resolve the issue. It did not resolve the issue. The
help desk was extremely slow in responding. Since I was getting a solution I
decided to post to their Facebook page. They responded then, they did refund
the cost of the software. They told me they took my comment down because it
wasn't accurate. 

 

Summary 

The product didn't work and they didn't support the product to make it work.
Their support was weak at best. My feedback this is not a solution keep
looking.Their service and product are pathetic 

 

 

I am going to try to contact the reviewer and find out what the other
solution was they bought.

Richard

 

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Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-18 Thread MamaPeach
I tried it with Jaws and it was horrible. Thank goodness they do offer a 15 
day free trial. I know now not to waste my money.


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very 
Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support 
Representative


It is supposed to be an alternative for syncing files to and from your 
iDevice.
If iTunes is working fine for you, you don't want to pay for an application 
you don't need.
On the Windows side, it is awful to try and use with a screen reader, so I'd 
recommend sticking with iTunes and keep giving Apple feedback for places it 
can be improved or fixed.


I spent time with the trial version and it isn't worth the hassle in my 
opinion.


Richard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christina C.

Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very 
Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support 
Representative


What do you use this for? I read the description but I was kind of confused.

Christina


On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.

On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and 
find it mostly useless.
I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was 
also not very accessible.
So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this 
app?


Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative


I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to 
comment how accessible it is, please.


BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative



Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said 
that there is both a Mac and a Windows version.


A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative


Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that 
helpful.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative


Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been 
able to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S,

be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes 
for Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the
same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
resolve this problem.

I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support 
number.


As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the 
sum and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to
know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had 
dedicated an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too,

was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using 
iTunes for Windows.  He said yes.


2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with

a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there 
may be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I
had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has 
been reported to Apple since as early as the first release of
iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he 
returned to the line, after visiting the site containing the
reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was 
an isolated issue.


4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he 
inadvertently admitted that he was using a Mac to help me
troubleshoot.  This came up beca

RE: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-18 Thread Richard Turner
It is supposed to be an alternative for syncing files to and from your iDevice.
If iTunes is working fine for you, you don't want to pay for an application you 
don't need.
On the Windows side, it is awful to try and use with a screen reader, so I'd 
recommend sticking with iTunes and keep giving Apple feedback for places it can 
be improved or fixed.

I spent time with the trial version and it isn't worth the hassle in my opinion.

Richard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising 
Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

What do you use this for? I read the description but I was kind of confused.

Christina

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and find 
>> it mostly useless.
>> I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was also 
>> not very accessible.  
>> So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this app?
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
>> Technical Support Representative
>> 
>> I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to comment 
>> how accessible it is, please.
>> 
>> BobH.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "M. Taylor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
>> Technical Support Representative
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
>> there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
>> Technical Support Representative
>> 
>> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that 
>> helpful.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
>> Support Representative
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able 
>> to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, 
>> be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.
>> 
>> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
>> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the 
>> same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
>> resolve this problem.
>> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.
>> 
>> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.
>> 
>> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
>> and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to 
>> know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated 
>> an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too, 
>> was very patient and polite.
>> 
>> 1.
>> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
>> for Windows.  He said yes.
>> 
>> 2.
>> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
>> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with 
>> a 5 S with no
>> problem during our call.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may 
>> be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I 
>> had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been 

Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-17 Thread chris

An alternative to iTunes for managing your device, in a nutshell.

On 18/10/2015 02:50, Christina C. wrote:

What do you use this for? I read the description but I was kind of confused.

Christina


On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.


On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and find it 
mostly useless.
I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was also not 
very accessible.
So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this app?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to comment how 
accessible it is, please.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative


Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
there is both a Mac and a Windows version.

A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that helpful.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able to 
either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S,
be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the
same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to
know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an 
entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too,
was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
for Windows.  He said yes.

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with
a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may be 
a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I
had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been 
reported to Apple since as early as the first release of
iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he returned 
to the line, after visiting the site containing the
reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an 
isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
admitted that he was using a Mac to help me
troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system files 
that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I
called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC during 
our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to sync 
my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and,
thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to 
resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was
initially downloaded in iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh 
copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC.

2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no 
synchronization problems.

Mark

--
The following information is important for all 

Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-17 Thread Christina C.
What do you use this for? I read the description but I was kind of confused.

Christina

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and find 
>> it mostly useless.
>> I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was also 
>> not very accessible.  
>> So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this app?
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
>> Technical Support Representative
>> 
>> I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to comment 
>> how accessible it is, please.
>> 
>> BobH.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "M. Taylor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
>> Technical Support Representative
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
>> there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
>> Technical Support Representative
>> 
>> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that 
>> helpful.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
>> Support Representative
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able 
>> to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, 
>> be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.
>> 
>> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
>> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the 
>> same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
>> resolve this problem.
>> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.
>> 
>> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.
>> 
>> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
>> and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to 
>> know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated 
>> an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too, 
>> was very patient and polite.
>> 
>> 1.
>> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
>> for Windows.  He said yes.
>> 
>> 2.
>> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
>> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with 
>> a 5 S with no
>> problem during our call.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may 
>> be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I 
>> had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been 
>> reported to Apple since as early as the first release of 
>> iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he 
>> returned to the line, after visiting the site containing the 
>> reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an 
>> isolated issue.
>> 
>> 4.
>> After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
>> admitted that he was using a Mac to help me 
>> troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system files 
>> that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I 
>> called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC 
>> during our call.
>> 
>> The Surprise:
>> 5.
>> He suggest

Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-16 Thread Dani Pagador
Duh. I guess I got confused and didn't focus on the OSX thing; I was
thinking about Richard's trying NVDA and WindowEyes and didn't make
the brain switch to use of the pgm/app with the Mac.

Thanks,
Dani, who'll go get some coffee to open up the pathways to the brain



On 10/16/15, chris  wrote:
> Well if they are using OS X then they will be using VoiceOver right?
> Just going by the message one below this one.
>
> On 17/10/2015 01:57, Dani Pagador wrote:
>> Yes, but what are you using to access it? A little more info, please???
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dani
>>
>> On 10/16/15, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and
>>>> find it mostly useless.
>>>> I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was
>>>> also not very accessible.
>>>> So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use
>>>> this
>>>> app?
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>>>> Technical Support Representative
>>>>
>>>> I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to
>>>> comment how accessible it is, please.
>>>>
>>>> BobH.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "M. Taylor" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>>>> Technical Support Representative
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said
>>>> that there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
>>>>
>>>> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>>>> Technical Support Representative
>>>>
>>>> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that
>>>> helpful.
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of M. Taylor
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>>>> Technical
>>>> Support Representative
>>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been
>>>> able to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S,
>>>> be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.
>>>>
>>>> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes
>>>> for
>>>> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the
>>>> same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how
>>>> to
>>>> resolve this problem.
>>>> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support
>>>> number.
>>>>
>>>> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide
>>>> the
>>>> sum and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to
>>>> know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had
>>>> dedicated
>>>> an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too,
>>>> was very patient and polite.
>>>>
>>>> 1.
>>>> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using
>>>&g

Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-16 Thread chris
Well if they are using OS X then they will be using VoiceOver right? 
Just going by the message one below this one.


On 17/10/2015 01:57, Dani Pagador wrote:

Yes, but what are you using to access it? A little more info, please???

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/16/15, Daniel Miller  wrote:

iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.


On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
wrote:

I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and
find it mostly useless.
I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was
also not very accessible.
So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this
app?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
Technical Support Representative

I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to
comment how accessible it is, please.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
Technical Support Representative


Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said
that there is both a Mac and a Windows version.

A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
Technical Support Representative

Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that
helpful.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been
able to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S,
be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the
same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to
resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support
number.

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the
sum and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to
know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated
an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too,
was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using
iTunes for Windows.  He said yes.

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with
a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there
may be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I
had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been
reported to Apple since as early as the first release of
iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he
returned to the line, after visiting the site containing the
reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an
isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he
inadvertently admitted that he was using a Mac to help me
troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system
files that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I
called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC
during our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to
sync my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and,
thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in
order to resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding
the system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was
initially downloaded in iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a
fresh copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC.

2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no
synchronization problems.

Mark

--
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Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-16 Thread Dani Pagador
Yes, but what are you using to access it? A little more info, please???

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/16/15, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.
>
>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and
>> find it mostly useless.
>> I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was
>> also not very accessible.
>> So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this
>> app?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>> Technical Support Representative
>>
>> I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to
>> comment how accessible it is, please.
>>
>> BobH.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "M. Taylor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>> Technical Support Representative
>>
>>
>> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said
>> that there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
>>
>> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>> Technical Support Representative
>>
>> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that
>> helpful.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical
>> Support Representative
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been
>> able to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S,
>> be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.
>>
>> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for
>> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the
>> same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to
>> resolve this problem.
>> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.
>>
>> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support
>> number.
>>
>> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the
>> sum and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to
>> know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated
>> an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too,
>> was very patient and polite.
>>
>> 1.
>> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using
>> iTunes for Windows.  He said yes.
>>
>> 2.
>> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S
>> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with
>> a 5 S with no
>> problem during our call.
>>
>> 3.
>> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there
>> may be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I
>> had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been
>> reported to Apple since as early as the first release of
>> iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he
>> returned to the line, after visiting the site containing the
>> reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an
>> isolated issue.
>>
>> 4.
>> After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he
>> inadvertently admitted that he was using a Mac to help me
>> troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system
>> files that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I
>> called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC
>> during our call.
>>
>> The Surprise:
>> 5.
>> He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to
>>

Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-16 Thread Daniel Miller
iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and find 
> it mostly useless.
> I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was also 
> not very accessible.  
> So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this app?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to comment 
> how accessible it is, please.
> 
> BobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> 
> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
> there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
> 
> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that helpful.
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able 
> to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, 
> be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.
> 
> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the 
> same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
> resolve this problem.
> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.
> 
> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.
> 
> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
> and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to 
> know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an 
> entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too, 
> was very patient and polite.
> 
> 1.
> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
> for Windows.  He said yes.
> 
> 2.
> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with 
> a 5 S with no
> problem during our call.
> 
> 3.
> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may 
> be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I 
> had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been 
> reported to Apple since as early as the first release of 
> iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he returned 
> to the line, after visiting the site containing the 
> reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an 
> isolated issue.
> 
> 4.
> After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
> admitted that he was using a Mac to help me 
> troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system files 
> that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I 
> called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC during 
> our call.
> 
> The Surprise:
> 5.
> He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to sync 
> my iOS devices.
> 
> I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.
> 
> He was unable to resolve my problem.
> 
> However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
> matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, 
> thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in order 
> to resolve the
> problem:
> 
> 1.
> Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
> system files, I deleted the .iPSW f

iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

2015-10-16 Thread Richard Turner
I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and find it 
mostly useless.
I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was also not 
very accessible.  
So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this app?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to comment how 
accessible it is, please.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative


Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
there is both a Mac and a Windows version.

A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that helpful.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able to 
either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, 
be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the 
same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to 
know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an 
entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too, 
was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
for Windows.  He said yes.

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with 
a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may be 
a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I 
had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been 
reported to Apple since as early as the first release of 
iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he returned 
to the line, after visiting the site containing the 
reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an 
isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
admitted that he was using a Mac to help me 
troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system files 
that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I 
called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC during 
our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to sync 
my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, 
thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to 
resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was 
initially downloaded in iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh 
copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC.

2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no 
synchronization problems.

Mark

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