[voyager] Re: still alive?
On Monday 08 November 2004 19:26, Steve wrote: ***MESSAGE DELIVERY FAILED*** Moron unsubscribed. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
Seems like some people didn't get it. Let's try again. - in 2000, we announced MorphOS (Ralph Schmidt, Frank Mariak, etc.. and *me*) - we tried to sort out a deal with Amiga Inc. to have missing components - the deal was aborded by HP and Hyperion because it didn't fit *their* interests - we have been accused of using stolen sourcecode which is a *plain lie* - we have been constantly dragged down with qualifications such as hobby OS, legally dubious, etc.. by some infamous belgian lawyer wannabe So now I ask again. Why should I support these people? -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
On Monday 21 June 2004 14:29, J=F6rgen Danielsson wrote: First of all this is one side of the story wich means nothing to me. The other thing is that the users who have paid for your programs got nothing to do with it. It is what happened. Your perception of the story won't change anything,=20 especially considering I was involved and you weren't. Regarding who have said what I've read lots and lots of BS from both side= s. Are you implying my previous mail was bullshit? =2D-=20 David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
On Monday 21 June 2004 14:55, Joergen Danielsson wrote: It is *only your side of the story* . So no why should I belive in that all you say is true? No I wasn't but that doesn't make your statements true. You said this is one side of the story wich means nothing to me. Well, if my explanations mean nothing to you I can't help it. Why do you ask things at all? Are you implying my previous mail was bullshit? Did I say it was or are you having some problems understanding what I'm writing? You didn't write I've read lots and lots of BS from both side for no reason. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
On Monday 21 June 2004 15:30, Joergen Danielsson wrote: What I asked was if you (the Vapor team) was going to release an OS 4 version of Voyager. Why shouldn't I ask that? And no, what one person says means nothing or do you belive in what everyone says to you? I do believe what qualified people tell me. It should be easy for you to figure out if I am qualified or not to answer questions about Voyager. No I wrote that because I have done exactly what I wrote. If you read it as I've read lots and lots of BS from both sides, and that includes your mail then that's your problem really. I think you know that I didn't mean that and are just acting stupid so why not end this discussion. Some people can be so silly.. Now how should you take that sentence? Does it mean you're silly or not? I hope you understand you should be careful in your wording and that dumping sentences for the sole purpose of doing what you write will very likely end up offending someone. I know where you stands and I can live with the lost of money that I've put on Voyager. If you didn't get your keyfile you should email support to get one. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
On Monday 21 June 2004 14:05, Don Cox wrote: I don't remember any attacks on Vaporware at all. But you do remember the attacks against MorphOS. BTW what causes those = =20 codes at the end of lines? 8-bit chars seem to confuse the mailing-list software. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
On Monday 21 June 2004 16:31, Joergen Danielsson wrote: About Voyager, yes. But you know that you're talking about AOS, MOS, Hyperion? And do you know I've been working on MorphOS for 4 years? I know the whole story and what precisely happened. If someone feels offended by what I write that's nothing much that I can do about it. Ok, so basically you're telling me you have no control of what you write. Scary. I have the right to speak my mind and I haven't called you anything so. But you implied that what I was saying had no relevance to the issue and could be flaged as BS. If that wasn't your intention, why did you mention BS at all in the first place? I suppose you got the point by now. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
On Monday 21 June 2004 17:58, Don Cox wrote: But you do remember the attacks against MorphOS. That is not a Vaporware product. We are talking about Voyager. I am involved in both projects. If they attack one, I won't support them with the other. Plain and simple, even if it doesn't fit the fantasy world some people live in. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
On Monday 21 June 2004 21:55, yomimmo wrote: I dont live in any fantasy world: I've payed for every soft from vaporware.= I never had any interest in MorphOS. Your words are Fuck you, if you dont= support MOS Not really. But it's not me who started the whole mess. There would still be a 68k version otherwise. In dont kown how say then in English but in my native language is Con tu= pan te lo comas More like ojo por ojo, diente por diente. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: OS 4-version
On Sunday 20 June 2004 18:25, J=F6rgen Danielsson wrote: Now that the pre-release are out I'm wondering if there'll be an AOS 4-version or are you MOS only now? Would you support people who constantly throwed mud to your face, who sprea= d=20 lies behind your back and who constantly dragged down your own product with= =20 false claims? I'm sure you wouldn't. =2D-=20 David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: 3.3.126
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:17:06 +0100, Ingo Musquinier wrote: Error: 0100 000F Task: 7605328A Error 0100 000C Task: 761250D0 You should write down the taskaddress and check with scout which task that is. This is a P96 problem anyway. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: 3.3.125
On 29 Dec 2002 15:29:06 -0500, Targhan wrote: what's the best tool to track erroneous tasks with? MuForce? I would prefer to give a more specific bug report than it don't werk. I just can't see that as very helpful... I recommend enforcer/cyberguard + mungwall + poolwatch for 68k setups. And reading the docs of course. enforcer and cyberguard can run all the time, they have little impact on performance. mungwall/poolwatch have a noticeable impact though. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: 3.3.125
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:37:26 +0100, Stephen Harris wrote: No idea. Does it happen when you don't load any site ? Oh, and of course no one is using that optimized MUI version from aminet right ? should we be ? No. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: 3.3.125
On 27 Dec 2002 19:01:12 +, Ian Greenway wrote: Being un untrusting so-and-so for installer scripts, I checked the versions of the files supplied. I don't know if it's related to the problems seen, but several of the MUI classes supplied were *ancient* compared to what I already had. Which ones? -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] new V for 68k users
Ok, I finally managed to reproduce the problem on a dusty 060 box and uploaded a fixed version (see http://v3.vapor.com/ for details). The compiler generated buggy code with optimizations enabled (as if I hadn't enough with my own bugs.. sigh). -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: 3.3.125
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:17:55 +, Brian Sharman wrote: Which ones? The more recent ones I have are :- Speedbar.mcc. 14.4 03.06.02 Speedbar.mcp. = 14.4 03.06.02 Speedbarcfg.mcc. 1= 4.4 03.06.02 Speedbutton.mcc. 1= 4.4 03.06.02 = Ah yeah. I think those ones were taken over by someone, but I don't have the changes. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: Amiga.org problem solved??
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:42:45 +, Duncan Joss wrote: The image in question is: http://amiga.org/images/icons/em_small.gif which is on the amiga.org homepage. Looks like some RTG issue. Can't reproduce here. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: new version available...
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 06:00:55 +, Brian Sharman wrote: Using an 8-bit screen ? Yep. Try 16/24-bit modes. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: new version available...
On 24 Dec 2002 16:22:05 +0100, Michael Merkel wrote: did you upload the correct version or an old one by chance? it tells 3.3.125 (*2.5.2002*) - april? That's just a titlebar string :) I should change the build system to update that on releases. btw... any plan to update microdot2? that version is from november 2001 :-( Yeah. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: img_decoder + APipe
On 19 Dec 2002 21:14:29 -0500, Targhan wrote: I've tried to remove APipe from the user-startup. When I did, Voyager would no longer display images. I put APipe back in, and the images are shown correctly. For the reasons mentioned before about apipe+mui, I would like to not have apipe mounted. So, what's the trick? Huh? V doesn't rely on apipe: to display images. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: The network status window.
On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:04:55 +1000, Andrew Bruno wrote: Do the stop buttons work? They used to but it's broken since the new layouter. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Piping via mime prefs
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:15:53 -0700 (PDT), Ajay jay wrote: Well it has a pipe streaming option already. I just don't know if it supports named pipes. I guess not since there isn't AFAIK a %whatever to pass the name of the pipe to the called script/program. I was hoping that it was undocumented (or just unknown to me) or I'm doing something wrong etc. Streaming passes the filename to stdin, so you can get it with Input(). -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: long live voyager
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 06:22:22PM +0200, Dietmar Knoll wrote: Well, believe it or not but the majority of the web sites around are designed to work with Win-crap browsers. Designing a webpage for a certain browser is the wrong way to start. Tell that to 99% of the webmasters in the world. HTML is all but well designed. Where? On a lot of places. Try to find out what happens if you specify a table WIDTH=200% for example. If you have suggestions hand them over to the w3c for inclusion in the specs. It's too late. Browsers already defined the standard themselves (aka MSIE defined the standard) and websites all over the world already started using them. Strictly following the w3c HTML specs doesn't work because they leave room for different interpretations. Where? See above. There are others, like the IMGIMG vs IMGnbsp;IMG. Where it's unsure if the first one must be vertically layouted. I think it shouldn't but MSIE does, so websites do expect it. And what is wrong with room for interpretation? It gives different result for the layout of the page depending on what browser you use. Take this room (layout) and let the client user do their interpretation. Then the user complains because the site looks weird or is unuseable. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: long live voyager
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:47:29AM +0200, Dietmar Knoll wrote: Sadly, Amiga developers sometimes are more interested in following Win-crap (and create the same crashy programs we see on WinXYZ) instead of following a proclaimed standard and turn it into some special, bright, brilliant piece of software. Surely the Amiga community is not in a position to change general development paths but maybe we (you) could make our lifes easier by implementing, let's say, HTML2.0 first, then 3.2, then 4.01 and if it is finally stable (still or again), start JS implementation. Well, believe it or not but the majority of the web sites around are designed to work with Win-crap browsers. HTML is all but well designed. Strictly following the w3c HTML specs doesn't work because they leave room for different interpretations. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: long live voyager
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 02:32:50AM -0400, Julian Aronowitz wrote: BTW, there is one integrated facility, in AWeb, which is not in Voyager: Newsgroups and E-Mail ability. To properly use Newsgroups or send a response while on some sites, using Voyager, I need other packages, to run; not so with AWeb. Newsgroup support was removed a long time ago. E-mail (send only) does still work. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: about the morphos beta123
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:35:21PM +0100, Fabrice Lehaut wrote: i just installed v3b123 for morphos and it doesn't work here :( Yep, already heard of that but I have no idea why it happens. With the latest MorphOS version I have it doesn't crash and I can't really install the old one. I'll try to get more infos. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Voyager v3.3.122 and www.vapor.com
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 07:25:36 -0500, Michael M. Rye wrote: Not the problem here. The symptom is that when I visit www.vapor.com with Voyager 3.3.122, the main V process goes into some sort of busy loop that consumes 100% CPU. This was verified by using Scout. I fixed this for the MorphOS version (some months ago or so), it was a wrong text calculation. Could you try changing your fonts to see if it helps? If so, tell me what font you are using that is causing troubles. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Image Decoder and VFlash
On 11 Feb 2002 20:42:35 +, Steven wrote: which suggests to me that the decoder is installed No it doesn't :) It does suggest the image decoder and SSL libraries [snip] The VFlash module is only loaded when needed (so, when there's a flash anim). You probably miss the right version for your processor. Check with snoopdos to see if there's a problem in that area. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Deluged by Beta versions demo versions and new keys
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 07:17:20PM +1100, Andrew Bruno wrote: Please excuse my anger, but I find the way things are happening recently VERY off putting with reference to REGISTERED SOFTWARE This is not the place to complain about registration problems. Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for that. 1) Copy AmIRC's keyfile into the Netinfo directory so that it can find it (or S:) 2) NC3 does not give you lifetime support. Be happy that 3 years after the product was released you still get updates (besides, you are entitled to get a full free keyfile through the upgrade webpage). -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Odd font fixation
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 03:10:21PM +0100, Rafal Pytlewski wrote: sorry but I am not understand very well in English, so 1.Should I use original muilowlevel.library or patched ? I am not use AWNPIPE: and similar. No. 2.muimaster020 patch rel.6 is OK or not ? because rel.6 not work on my computer. I use rel.5 now . No, it's not ok. If you use this patch you are on your own. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Odd font fixation
On 19 Jan 2002 23:7:52 +0100, Markus Rütter wrote: Yes, I remember there was something like that. But here it happens exclusively with the current V beta. All other MUI apps, including the last official V release do not show this behaviour. So V is at least involved somehow... Are you using an optimized MUI patch ? -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Dodgy optimized muimaster.library
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:52:50PM +, John Kjellberg wrote: Same place as most tings. Aminet. I use and, and yes, I definetly think it speeds things up. Especialy when changing size of window and virual groups and stuff like that. [...] Placebo effect :) Besides, the patch is around 166 KB.. I didn't disassemble it and I'm not going to do so but it's big for what it claims to do IMHO. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: vapor_toolkit_morphos_1513.lha
On Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:25:04 +0100, aNTibikE wrote: in the archive vapor_toolkit_morphos_1513.lha is a vapor_toolkit.library.elf with the version 15.12 is this only a make-up problem again like by the voyager3.3.117 release ?? Yeah. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Update!
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 06:55:59PM +1000, Andrew Bruno wrote: Then when the file is done, it fails again. Others can be in transit and it fails, but the thing is when I have about 6 files going at once. Alas though it isn't consistant, as I did get the number back to 6 - I think - and it didn't annoy me again. Hm, when it marks a file as 'failed' it's usually because of the server who closed the connection. I assume you don't have auto-retry turned on in V. I'll do some tests with these settings to see if it happens. If someone still has problems with the download system and a reproduceable mean of showing up the bug, please let me know. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Gif89a
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 04:42:37PM +0800, Shane Cracknell wrote: Is there anyway that i can get this site to load in V? http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldSite/10hants141/GIFs/14070001h.GIF everything loads except the map itself. Tried with Javascript on and off and all the spoofing types. Or is it a prob with the Gif89a extention? The image is too big. V doesn't support pictures larger than 2048 pixels horizontaly or verticaly (yeah, that sucks). It's on the todo list. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Gif89a
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 09:56:13AM +0100, David Gerber wrote: The image is too big. V doesn't support pictures larger than 2048 pixels horizontaly or verticaly (yeah, that sucks). It's on the todo list. Hm, just horizontaly actually :) -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: a nice page to test on voyager :)
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:08:10PM +, Jools Smyth wrote: certainly Iprobe seems to function on ADSL far bettern than the other Browsers i have, probably due to the threading and priorities of each task. Ibrowse if i remember has a configuration for this also. would be nice to get the most out of my connection on voyager. perhaps with network given more priority than the layouter. although if its all on the same thread that would be tricky V uses 5 processes. Main task, dns resolver, network, image decoder and cache prune (when necessary). Those are the priorities: - main task: 0 (inherited) - dns: 2 - network: 0 - imgdecode: -1 - prune: -20 and if you run Executive it uses nice values: - main task: 0 (default) - dns: -20 - network: -20 - imgdecode: 15 - prune: 20 (see Executive docs to see what nice values are). Though in your case it's probably not priority related. The bottleneck being the main task. Even after the layouting is finished scrolling the page is slow and V becomes slugish. I identified the problem a while ago but fixing it will break stuff so I didn't have time for it yet. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Problem found - I think.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:05:10PM +1000, Andrew Bruno wrote: But hang on. If I do a detection of filetype ONLY on the name, wouldn't it bypass this problem? If V is set to ignore server sent mimetypes, then yes. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Update!
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:55:30PM +1000, Andrew Bruno wrote: Cause: Memory Header not located. Freemem invalid address. It seems to happen when file xfers start/finish. I need to know what settings you use for downloads. If there's a requester coming up, if you abort downloads, etc.. before you get that problem. If you run mungwall/poolwatch, you will see the hit before. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Update!
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:35:48PM +1000, Andrew Bruno wrote: I need to know what settings you use for downloads. If there's a requester coming up, if you abort downloads, etc.. before you get that problem. When I download a file I get the usual progress requestor. That's about it from Voyager. Autocleanup turned on ? All/Leave failures/never ? Do the problem happen during the download or after at least one of them finished ? -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Problem found - I think.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:30:18PM +1000, Andrew Bruno wrote: I set up a .zip file action to download to a different default directory - which became THE default unless I press SHIFT to download. ;-( Shift-click downloads to the download directory set in V since it bypasses any mimetype recognition. So back one version I would click on a .zip file, and it would download to the other directory. If this doesn't work, it means the server doesn't have its mimetype configured correctly. I've seen a lot of servers send zip files as application/octet-stream mimetype. Shift Click and the file would go to my Amiga default directory. Now when I click on a .zip file, Voyager asks me what to do with it. Yep, check the prefs in mimeprefs. There should be some docs explaining all this. Someone offered to make them 2 years ago. He still didn't start I think :) -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Table Layout speed (again)
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:14:40 +0100, Uffe Holst wrote: What are you using? I'm running Voyager on it's own 24bit 800x600 screen, and I'm running CGX3. I've never taken the time to upgrade to CGX4 -- I wish somebody could tell me why I should upgrade?! CGX4 has VMEM bitmap management (BITMAPCACHE). Since I use that feature in V that will speed it up on gfx cards. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Table Layout speed (again)
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:18:08 +, Jools Smyth wrote: oh. and i use p96, since i cannot stand cgx slow pulldown menu drawing Use MorphOS and MagicMenuPPC with transparent menus :) (p96 seems to accerlerate more things) . although its not good for delitracker scopes. P96 uses tons of tricks to speed up things (*). It will put all the bitmaps it can into VMEM (making old apps look fast but giving problems with others, like DeliTracker scopes in your case). It will also use SetTackPri() to applications a lot, making gfx rendering look snapier but messing up Executive and possibly dropping network connection flows temporarily. *: They probably used all those tricks to beat CGX in benchmarks. They did a bit too much IMHO. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Voyager exits but it shold not !
On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 04:41:03AM -0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: yes we need mime system for voyager extended so its posible to define internal or external programs pr mime type, its already done in amirc, but not in voyager .. Of course it is. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Resuming
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 10:57:49PM +, Samuel Byford wrote: Um, I'm not sure if this has been brought up recently or not (if it has then please forgive me ;) The latest V's resume appears to be up the creak. Downloading the latest StarWars Episode II trailers my 2 hours connection isnt enough. it gets to about 70%. when i resume, instead of starting off where it left and getting the last 30% down it actually starts the file downloading from the start of the file but only downloads the 30% it knows is left. I imagine this is known about but just thought Id mention it ;-) Huh, what server is that? -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: New Beta Eats Chip Ram For Brekky
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 06:38:06PM +, Kev wrote: I'm running the 060 version of the new beta and it seems to eat up chip ram that cannot be recovered without a reset, anyone else get this? Do you have a graphic card ? -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: New Beta Eats Chip Ram For Brekky
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 09:30:48AM +0100, DET Nicolas wrote: Do you have a graphic card ? I own a graphic card (CV64/3D running under CGX 4.2), I get a similar problem. Is it normal that any program eats chip ram as I own gfx card and WBCtrl running ? I don't know what WBCtrl is but programs eating chip ram is perfectly normal. Many parts of the OS use hardcoded chip ram allocations (intuition gadgets, icon stuff, etc..) but they are quite small so for a normal use you shouldn't get more than 200-300 kB chip ram used. V shouldn't use chip ram on gfx card systems (there's no explicit chip mem allocation, except for the prefs imagery on the 68k version but that's a few kB only). If it uses a lot of chipmem and you have enough (not too fragmented) fast ram, then there's a problem. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Copy/Paste Text from Voyager ?
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 12:41:20PM +0300, Sinan Gürkan wrote: Will it be possible to copy/paste text from the web pages displayed by Voyager ? Yes it will be. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: vapor_toolkit.library
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 08:09:20AM +0200, Mr Paranoid wrote: Bullshit. textinput.mcc works fine without vapor_toolkit.library Wrong. It won't start if the library is not installed. (vapor_toolkit is not a part of YAM distribution, and right now I'm working offline on YAM without vapor_toolkit.library in my libs:). What has YAM to do with vapor_toolkit.library ? It doesn't even use Textinput AFAIK. So question as most precise as I can ask: - Is that library is responsible for sending data through network to vapor center with informations about my machine or software (I know that Vapor products sends some informations to vapor center, but I' mot sure which part of software is responsible for that). vapor_toolkit.library does not send data anywhere (it doesn't even have network code). vapor_update.library does though. - What data was sent to vapor center, and why the hell you don't inform about that fact in any place in any documentation??? User have got right to know what happened when they use your software (for example Pawel Filipczak in manual to TaskiSMS describes exactly what datas is sent to him, and what will be done with these datas, and of course give reasons of that). Any installer will tell you what vapor_update.library is supposed to do. There's a quote from V's installer: vapor_update.library: If installed every Vapor app will automagically check for updates by querying the Vapor server via Internet. You will be informed and offered automatic downloading if there is an update. vapor_update.library sends an UDP packet to update.vapor.com which contains a number used to identify the application (Voyager, MD2, etc..), the version of the application and the version string. Nothing else. The server sends back a reply and VUP can either display a MOTD or that a new version of the application is available and offer you to download it. You can disable all that by simply deleting vapor_update.library. The library is optional. These are public MUI classes. Anyone can use them.. So why they calls to vapor_toolkit (especially as you said textinput. This MCC works without VTL without any problems)??? You probably tried without rebooting. In that case the library might still be in memory. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Fanatism
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:23:31 +0300, ORHUN KABAKLI wrote: I think Vapor is doing MorphOS fanatism.. Fanatism is definitely not the right word. Something like support and interest would be correct. I don't know why Vapor (at least some programmers) does this: Because they think acting like this makes them cool? Makes them cool is also a strange definition but I'd say that I am of course interested to be able to run true PPC software. This is all about technology, MorphOS is the only thing that allows one to do that. Because it makes their software better? Yes. What's wrong in having Voyager run several times faster ? What's wrong with trying to put some life in an existing market (PowerUP boards *do* exist) and support the bplan machine which will be released in a few months ? BTW, we still support 68k builds and it's not going to end tomorrow. I even spend time making sure the 68k build is ok and improving it for specific things (eg. 64-bit computation support for SAS/C). It's not fanatism, it's common sense. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: [voyager] Re: latest V³ beta damned slow?!
Have you tried unscheduling V (TASK+CHILDTASKS) for a while to see if it makes a massive difference? i test voyager on a multitude of amigas from 020-060 some with executive some without. i dont notice any real speed difference when running under executive, as it gives main priority to the focussed window (in my configuration). Executive running or not shouldn't matter. Besides, V has dedicated Executive support for optimizing the relative task priorities. So the problem is somewhere else. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: latest V³ beta damned slow?!
On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:29:56 +0200, David Scheibler wrote: am I the only one (maybe a problem of my system?), but I've the impression that the latest beta of V³ is really slow. No you're not, same here. Think it's because it isn't optimized yet and has all the debug code in it. Slow when doing what ? Layouting ? Scrolling ? Please try to describe as accurately as possible. Is the mouse pointer freezing ? There's no debug code in public versions. 68k version is compiled without optimizations though. PPC version is always with full optimizations enabled. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: The num; entity, and all entity support in Voyager - a Dummy's Guide To..
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 08:02:41AM +, Don Cox wrote: How about satisfying everyone by having a preferences option to set the parser for these entities to IE, Strict or Opera ? That would keep everybody happy, until next time. This site doesn't werk! Did you set the prefs to IE ? And I can imagine a lot of others. Unfortunately, the majority of websites are designed for IE these days and it's rare to have a website that doesn't work with it (and if it does, be sure the webmaster will fix it quickly otherwise he loses a significant audience). You could strictly stick to the standard as published by the w3c but there are a lot of things not properly covered by it and which leave room for several interpretations. As Olli said, the web would be a better place if Mosaic throwed a syntax error on every bogosity found on a webpage in those early days. If you want to check if a webpage is standard compliant (if that means anything), don't use V but http://validator.w3.org/ which was designed for that. Examples ? Let's try a random webpage: TABLE BORDER=1 WIDTH=100% ^ Error: an attribute value must be quoted if it contains any character other than letters (A-Za-z), digits, hyphens, and periods; use quotes if in doubt (explanation...) Let's ignore attribute values without quotes then. Oops, lot of sites break. /UL ^ Error: end tag for LI omitted; possible causes include a missing end tag, improper nesting of elements, or use of an element where it is not allowed Oops, disabling that breaks a lot of websites too. Error: end tag for P omitted; possible causes include a missing end tag, improper nesting of elements, or use of an element where it is not allowed (explanation...) Disable it ? Bad idea.. And so on.. Tried writing a page by hand ? If you follow all the rules of the validator you end up spending quite some time closing tags no browser cares about (because it's unecessary to care about them, at a programming point of view and at a practical point of view). So I'm not convinced that adding options to be stript, emulate browser A, emulate browser B, etc.. would be a good idea. Better try to display and handle properly as much web pages as possible which is, after all, what people expect a browser to do. _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: PDF plugin.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 05:29:30PM +1000, Andrew Bruno wrote: So I stopped it comming and SHIFT clicked on it to force a download. Voyager locked up. Hm, I've seen that. Must be a bug in the download window. I'll try to find what it is exactly. _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: One stupid question... (v3.3.104)
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 10:14:35AM +0100, Mariusz Danilewicz wrote: As I mentioned in subject, I've got one stupid question to Voyager v3.3.104... There's no stupid question, only.. erm :) Where is 'Save as HTML' and 'Save as text' functions goes??? Why I can't write pagesource but I could saw it using 'show page source' function??? This is a little bit strange... I can see source but I can't write it to my hdd... The save as HTML/Text from the menu should work but not from the context menu yet. And one more... Why function 'Copy URL to clipboard' from popup menu don't copy URL to clipboard??? Because you have to add it yourself. Add the function 'CopyToClip' to the context menu. This is always a problem between betas because newly added functions can't automatically show up. I'll add a 'Set default values' later on. [snip] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: working again :-)
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:06:36 +0100 (BST), Alan Buxey wrote: Voyager 3.3_105 morphOS just gives BIG errors under MorphOS when I hit http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga. I'm using Miami with the 8n1 ELF driver for serial connection, 256 colour display (AGA, my gfx card is in someone elses Amiga right now :-) ) I hope you use CGXAGA because plain AGA under MorphOS is not supported. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Unknown image type
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 12:26:50AM +0300, ORHUN KABAKLI wrote: I just tried to load AWeb's Aweb.html file with Vayger, iff images say unknown image type. IFF images aren't supported by the internal image decoders. V is a browser, not a picture viewer program. _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Unknown image type
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 10:38:05AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: IFF images aren't supported by the internal image decoders. V is a browser, not a picture viewer program. IFF is an Amiga standard...you'd expect it to do them I guess if it had an option to use datatypes then it would work :-) It might be an Amiga standard but it's not well suited for pictures on the web. Crap compression and no support from major browsers. Datatypes might be implemented one day but it's not a high priority. I'm still having a problem with voyagerit says the demo has timed out (the latest beta test!) and my voyager-3.key is in the current (and assigned) directory :-| Check with SnoopDos that it's being found. _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Feature Request Bug Report
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 04:39:47AM +0300, ORHUN KABAKLI wrote: MorphOS image decoders are PPC native. What are you talking about? I am talking about AmigaOS which is currently the standard on Amiga. Morphos has got problems... And I think it is not a good idea to program a beta browser for a beta operating system.. :) Why isn't it ? It works, and quite nicely. It's also the only way to have mixed mode 68k and PPC native programs and it's clean. Is it too difficult to program a warpos version of image decoders? at least jpeg.? With AWebs ppc jfif pligin, everything gets very fast and I can scroll through a page while its being loaded because pictures are decoded using ppc leaving most of 68k free. It is also at least 4 times faster on my 233 mhz 604e than my 060-50. It makes no sense to do *progressive* image decoders on a dual-CPU system without hardware cache consistency. You end up flushing caches everytime making serious impact on overall system performances. I already explained that many times but.. _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Yam to V
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 02:10:14AM +, Matt Sealey wrote: (it should be V:V file:///%s but IMO that's the worst way of doing it since, as mentioned before on the list, V doesn't respect any arguments when started a second time) There's no need to put file:///, %s alone will do (if V is not already running, that is). _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: V 3.3.104 hangs when loading the VaporWare site
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:26:02PM -0500, Michael M. Rye wrote: On my machine (specs in sig), V 3.3.104 hangs when trying to load the VaporWare site (kind of ironic, don't ya think?). It loads between 4 and 6 K of the HTML and then stops. TinyMeter shows 100% CPU usage when this happens. Anybody else run into this behavior ??? Yes, me. But since it only happened with the PPC version I was looking at the wrong part then. Probably a race condition. _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: back button doesn't work / MuForce hits
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 03:38:15PM +0200, David Scheibler wrote: Surf to 3 or four different websites (so that there is something in the history list), then enable the single window mode and open a new window. Surf, in this new window, to some other sites and close it afterwards. Now the back button in the first window doesn't work anymore. Also yesterday I got some MuForce hits doing this. Consider the single window mode as a plus (if possible). Something better will be added later. _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Bookmarks reseted
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:11:12 GMT, Christophe Decanini wrote: When I want to add a bookmark I click on the buton on the right of the url field. i can check it adds my bookmark in the bookmarks list. If some minutes after I click again to display the bookmarks I either get them or not. I discovered that there is a save settings in the bookmark menu. So did I but it did not kept them :( Am I wrong or is there a bug in the Voyager³ 3.3.104beta 68K ? That's a typical problem with CManager. The easiest way to solve it is to install CManager standalone. It can be found on any VaporWare mirror. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Help! get a lot of crashes with Voyager 3.3.104
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:45:54 +0200, DET Nicolas wrote: I believe that MorphOS solves this problem, because Memory protection is inside MorphOS (as said on www.morphos.de). But I don't know if the memory protection is implented in current beta. If I'm wrong correct me. Quark does offer memory protection but currently the Amiga emulation task plays the role of a big driver which means it cannot be isolated yet. This will change in the future as the Quark side improves. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: some things i would like to see fixed/implemented
On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 22:10:01 +0100, Jools Smyth wrote: That's some kind of MUI3.8-related bug, as this works just fine in the MUI betas we're using.. scrolling works for me on 3.2.13 fine.. so can a workaround be made to fix this mui 3.8 bug or ? not all of us have mui 4.0 beta or so :d It's not a MUI 3.8 bug. Virtgroups are just more stupid and you can't control them using the keyboard. Thus V would need to map every key when ran with MUI 3.8. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Strange behaviour
On Sun, 27 May 2001 22:30:24 +, Chris Millar wrote: Ah well..if Vapor can`t be arsed to fix a fault.I can`t be arsed to put my hand in my pocket and hand over my hard-earned cash for the next update. Why should I buy flawed software? Yeah, Color instead of Colour is a major flaw. Surely fixing it will get rid of the other bugs as well. Every business has to listen to their customers requests and act upon them. Then comes an american who wants Color, and so on. BTW, you can run SYS:Prefs/Palette and watch the lovely menus. Multicolor settings, Slider color model, ... You`ve just guaranteed Vapor sells one less copy of Voyager...bet they`re *really* glad they employed you. ;) Next version of V will have Color changed to electromagnetic spectrum value to make everyone happy. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Support for deprecated tags
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 03:16:39AM -0400, Julian Aronowitz wrote: Good point, except, I do not run *any* background programs like DOpus or Enforcer or SnoopDOS, and I have usually had V get stuck. Why is that? In fact, until someone can show me how to prevent V from being such a memory hog and not releasing memory, I may not use it again. I have 2 megs of Chip and 16 megs of Fast. I should not need 4 megs of Fast and 32 megs of Fast to assure sufficient RAM. When AWeb is finished, it gives back all of the RAM it used. V gives back the ram too but it uses some libraries (ssl, image decoders, about screen, MUI classes) which don't give back the memory. They stay in ram until more memory is needed, type 'avail flush' in a shell after exiting V to find out. _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: V hogging RAM Was: (Re: Support for deprecated tags)
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:40:57AM +0100, Gaven Eogan wrote: Well something is definitely not working right (latest beta 95). V is using up huge amounts of RAM and running out of it very quickly, until it stops displaying images altogether (I think it says 'No memory for bitmap'). It is just happening a lot faster now that people like me are running V on 16 or 32bit Workbench screens. And AFAIK there is no way no free the memory (flush cache options don't work) without quiting. Why do the image decoders allocate way more memory than I have set in the V's memory cache preference option anyway? (if I set it to 8Mb, then that's more or less all the RAM I'd expect V to allocate in one session, not 25Mb!) Anyway, its not the end of the world, maybe its already fixed in a newer revision. Yeah, that's a known bug. Not fixed yet. I'll try to get it fixed for the next beta (no, no release date, don't ask :) _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Space conversion
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:48:04 +, Don Cox wrote: There isn't always a webmaster contact link to complain to. And the attitude is "It works in IE, what kind of rubbish are you using?" Well, give an URL.. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Space conversion
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:29:45 +, Don Cox wrote: One thing that is still causing trouble is the conversion of spaces in URLs to %20 It seems some cgi scripts don't understand this. Without %20 some webservers wouldn't understand it either. Ram Disk: telnet zapek.meanmachine.ch 80 Trying 213.162.9.133... Connected to vaxol.meanmachine.ch. Escape character is '^]'. GET /lame%20test.html HTTP/1.0 Host: zapek.meanmachine.ch HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:41:45 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) PHP/3.0.7 Last-Modified: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:40:06 GMT ETag: "4902f-5-3ad62ec6" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 5 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html blah Connection closed by foreign host. Ram Disk: Ram Disk: Ram Disk: telnet zapek.meanmachine.ch 80 Trying 213.162.9.133... Connected to vaxol.meanmachine.ch. Escape character is '^]'. GET /lame test.html HTTP/1.0 Host: zapek.meanmachine.ch HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:42:10 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) PHP/3.0.7 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN" HTMLHEAD TITLE404 Not Found/TITLE /HEADBODY H1Not Found/H1 The requested URL /lame was not found on this server.P HR ADDRESSApache/1.3.6 Server at zapek.meanmachine.ch Port 80/ADDRESS /BODY/HTML Connection closed by foreign host. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Cut Caste
On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 12:43:31 +0900, Shane Cracknell wrote: Is there something i need to set in V3.3.9 so that i can Cut Paste. I was just trying to answer a posting in a Forum and found that i could not get that function to work.. Sorry, not yet implemented. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Image Decoder's
On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:41:44 +, Samuel Byford wrote: Whats so wrong with that u ask?? Well I have an 040 with fpu!! Why the hell is it not using the right lib? This would mean that all my images are being shown a good 1/3 the speed my 040 could show them at!! :( Hm, if you have the 040 image decoder library it should pick it up. What CPU card do you have and what 68040.library do you use ? And are you sure the FPU of the 040 works ? -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: DNS problems
On 2 Mar 2001 21:42:09 +, Ian Greenway wrote: I often wondered why that strangely inconsistent error message kept appearing. Would it be possible for V to work round this in some way, like to retry the DNS request a configurable number of times before fail? This is not the job of the application. Well, this is the same story as the "connection refused" returned by 4.4BSD based TCP/IP implementations when the backlog queue of a service is full. The excuse being "just let the application retry", and you end up having all the application doing the job ... of the network layer. A possible workaround against the DNS problem is to use a DNS cache. For example the one at http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: DNS problems
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:18:24 +, Don Cox wrote: Question: How does NetInfo find the IP address if Voyager cannot? TCP stack is MiamiDx, OS is AmigaOS 3.9 The problem is the same on 2 different ISPs. This is because of the BIND disease. It takes a query, checks if it's in the cache. If it isn't it drops it, starts a background sysquery and expects to have it in the cache the next time the client resends the query. So in your case, typing the IP again in netinfo redoes a query which BIND managed to cache by then. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Flash for m68k
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:17:11 -, Gaven Eogan wrote: I want to write one (not at all easy) and have the docs and specs for it for weeks but I can't find a proper C development environment (the version of SAS/C I have is buggy, the v3 plugin developer archive example plugin compiles with strange errors and causes lockup when its prefs window is selected). The "absolute reference" errors are normal. This is because the prefs pictures are put into chip memory using __chip. The prefs crash shouldn't happen though.. Does anyone know of or can recommend a more up to date 68k/PPC C development system that I can buy that is compatible with SAS code? (SAS is old, doesn't do PPC AFAIK, and I can't even see it for sale anywhere anymore) Something with a nice development environment like CodeWarrior on the Mac/PC would be ideal. It would also have to be compatible with the new Mediator SharkPPC card system. SAS/C is still good for 68k code. Otherwise there's GCC and vbcc. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Downloading, was Some suggestions for V !
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:10:04 +, Don Cox wrote: Whether this is a problem with V sending the wrong request or the server giving the wrong answer, I don't know. Well, if it happens again note what file it was and on what server, then I'll check. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Voyager and AmigaForever
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:41 -0700, Alan Crandall wrote: Any body else using AmigaForever and Voyager3.32 ? Thanks! Run VaporWare apps from a file "partition" instead of your win32 partition. There are problems with some packet I/O on UAE. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Query for Zapek
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:17:53 +0100, Nicolas (NicoPPC) DET wrote: I also noticed that the VFlash Player works really well under MorphOS :-)) Here, VFlash crash all the time under AmigaOS, but is quiet stable under MOS. That's I wanted to say buy "really well". Yeah, well. I'll add a fix in V for that alignement issue. Anyone want to by a "sound.library" for all these sound hardware ? It would be better to fix AHI since it has a nice API instead of creating a new one. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: copy url to clipboard with v3.3.79
On 17 Feb 2001 18:31:52 +0200, Michael Merkel wrote: is there an internal command for that? (was not able to find one) Not yet. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: V3.3 Final Release?
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 05:23:45PM +0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: Any target release date for the "Full," non-beta version? Soon (tm). _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: List of changes since 3.3.75
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 04:10:22PM +0100, Oliver Wagner wrote: below is a list of changes since the 3.3.75 beta. As you can see from the list, Zapek has been a real slacker again. Show off. All show off :) _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: ...memory eating bugs in v3.3.65
On 2 Feb 2001 18:31:01 +, David Steele wrote: Using the workbench printer drivers it is only possible to print off an 8bit screen :( I had real problems until I heard this, I just drop V to a lower screen depth when I want to print. Output is really good however if you are printing from resolutions above 640x480 :)) This is a limitation of printer.device which returns an error on a hi/true-color screen. I suggest you get Turboprint which allows that (and gives much better result than the original drivers anyway). Printing is not enabled in V 3.3.x yet but will be. Turboprint and Studio will be supported as well. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Hotmail
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:44:50 +0100, Matt Sealey wrote: Anti-competitive is when a company does things to exclude a competitor from the market. I don't remember Netscape or Mozilla or Opera or iCab not being able to use Hotmail. Read http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/dirtytricks.shtml and think again. BTW, MSIE is "free" because that way they don't have to pay royalties to Spyglass (the one they licensed Mosaic from). -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: 3.3.65 first impression
On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 20:59:29 +, Don Cox wrote: "View Page Source" does nothing here when selected from the main menus. Should it be working in this version ? Not yet. Please can we have instructions on how to add the "info" item to the pop-up menu for an image? Hm, the Docinfowin doesn't work for images yet. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Gurus...Gurus....Gurus...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:11:06 +0200, Robin wrote: Is it possible that there are different levels of stack used in v ? Or why is this 'general stack' helping v's stability ? (BTW I'm running the latest beta) The default stack of V is fine. We usually avoid stack recursive function calls. V automatically increases its stack on startup so you shouldn't worry. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:50:58 - , Gaven Eogan wrote: Does anyone know (David Gerber maybe) if the Vapor team are working on getting a (fairly minimal even) CSS style sheet implementation in new versions of Voyager. Yes. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Cache
On 31 Dec 2000 19:21:57 +0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: manually. Well, I can, but it's a PITA to do it. (Why doesn't Ollie make it so when one saves a page or pages as HTML, you have the choice of saving the images as well with FULL path?) This is planed. If you mean Memory Cache: my Maximum is 1024K with "Cache Images" turned on. I've been thinking of lowering this to 512K. I only have a 16MB 3000 and with several windows opened at once, my FAST RAM can get down to under 1 meg really fast. BTW, V's memory cache installs a lowmem handler which means if the memory gets low, the cache is automatically freed. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Why?
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000 16:10:01 +, Don Cox wrote: IMHO the rendering of a page before its contents have been completely read is an important feature of web browsers which should stay that way. You could have it that way if you want. I'm suggesting that this should be optional. As downloads get faster (ADSL, cable, etc) there will be less and less need to watch the rendering engine doing its stuff while you wait, or try to read text which keeps jumping around every time a new image arrives. I suppose everyone here is tech oriented. But most web users are not. The main problem with the scheme of waiting for the complete data to arrive before displaying the page is that it's too common that it won't work correctly. On many web sites, you have adverts pointing to other websites and if one of the picture doesn't come you can wait a long time for the page to render. There's also the problem that some sites don't specify the size of the pictures (yes, even in 2000). The new rendering engine of V is designed to handle incremental rendering whenever possible (but this is perfectible of course, there are still some quirks left). V also tries to optimize the rendering depending on the speed at which the data comes in. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Massive crash problems with voyagers above 3.2.13 please help
On 25 Dec 2000 19:26:17 +, wrote: Leaving 3.3.56 for say 2 minutes doing nothing at all not even browsing a web page will crash my system or just disable the menus???. I saw that at a friend's place. I just finished to setup an A1200 today (one machine more on my LAN :) with AGA and I managed to reproduce that just right now. Really strange, I'll try to investigate what's wrong. It doesn't happen with FBlit installed though. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: tabs for voyager?
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:39:42 +0100, Matt Sealey wrote: do you know "netcaptor"? (www.netcaptor.com) I think David mentioned it a while back. Then we all mentioned that they have patent pending on that technique (look at the small print on the site ;) Patent pending ? What are they going to patent next ? Mouse clicks ? Anyway, this feature is planned (in fact, most of the code is already here). -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: VFlashPPC ppc.library emu: Good news
On 16 Dec 2000 20:56:05 -0100, Rolf Max Rotvel wrote: I just got a beta of the latest ppc.library emuation (v0.8e) from Frank Wille. VFlashPPC runs perfectly with it (So put _that_ in your .plan David :-)) Cool. At last it stops that stupid idea some people had that I did put anti warpos code in VFlash and that the requirement of the latest version of ppc.library was some conspiracy against warpos. .plan updated. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Voyager Rexx
On 3 Dec 2000 12:56:35 +, Duncan Gow wrote: Where can I find info on Voyagers ARexx port and the commands its supports. Once it's ready it'll be released. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: V 3.3alpha49 NOT WORKING
On 27 Nov 2000 00:54:22 +0200, Michael Merkel wrote: A new V alpha version is available for download from the mirror sites. It doesn´t work... It says I need a keyfile... I have one. I have two. One for 2.xx and one for 3.x but it still doesn´t like them... the same happens here 8-(( please fix this. Yeah, Olli gone to bed and then I notice it doesn't work. The bug was really evil but I managed to fix it. V 3.3.50 uploaded to ftp.vapor.com, ftp.meanmachine.ch and the UK mirror right now. Sigh, I "wake up" in 2 hours... Tomorrow will be a zombie day. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: ARexx Interface
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:50:10 +, James S. Perrin wrote: 1. Where can I find a desciption of Voyagers Arexx interface? On my hd, but it won't be released now. We don't want people to start writing arexx scripts then seeing how it breaks with a later version because some commands changed, it is still a work in progress. 2. According to the guy who wrote RexxWget Voygar doesn't have an arexx command to return the current URL(!!!), but is is possible to parse the url as a place holder if you set a buttons action to be run an arexx script? eg in the command panel something like dosomethingclever.rexx %u though %u doesn't work. Not in the last public alpha. This will be added later. Almost everything will be arexxable. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: on-disk-cache
On 28 Sep 100 18:24:32 +, STEWART DEVINE wrote: dear group, in voyager--general settings--cache--.is there a maximum on disk cache memory size that i can go to?i know the standard is 8192 kb.,but i have doubled that ,with no problemsis there a limit? Yeah, 2 GB. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: V³ and HTTPResume
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 02:29:55 +, Chris Millar wrote: That's something I'd be interested inas Voyager's Resume is buggy. I wasn't amused when the Resume feature overwrote a B-I-G file, despite selecting Resume! Resume overwrites a file when the server doesn't support resume. Well, perhaps I'll put a requester there. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: which mui library..
On 7 Sep 2000 19:25:51 +0200, P-O Yliniemi wrote: ...broke the back, forward, home, find, print and stop buttons in voyager for me ? hmm.. something.. has changed every button in my toolbar... so that the action is "Stop"... I guess I could blame the beta... or ? Yes, you have to change back the actions of the button because the beta has another format. It was never designed to go back to a previous version :) -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: MUI settings with 3.3a35
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:52:13 -0700, alden1 wrote: For some reason, I am unable to get the snapshot gadget to show for this version. Think perhaps this problem existed with the last beta/alpha also. difficult to snapshot the screen size and position without it. Anyone have a clue. My MUI libs are supposed to all be the latest available... Info appreciated. Not yet implemented. I have to redo the window numbering system. Also the background backfilling is not finished, giving slow scrollings. Context menus aren't there, nor bookmarks, etc... This alpha is mainly to get an impression of the new layout system. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Vacation, and V 3.3alpha35 ;)
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:08:44 +0200, Uffe Holst wrote: Yes, this can definitely be the cause of some problems if one doesn't know what applications use which libraries. Another cause of problems is that some libraries themselves open libraries, so to flush such a library it might be necessary to run "avail flush" more than once. Or there's flushlib on the voyager-sdk archive which takes care of that. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[voyager] Re: Navigation buttons V 3.2.13 ceased to work
On 27 Aug 2000 14:14:59 +0200, Ingo Heinicke wrote: what have I done wrong? My navigation buttons stopped to work in v3.2.13 though they work fine in v3.3.35. Oops. There's some conversion to the new button format in the new V. But if you save the prefs and you go back to a previous V, it won't work. To solve this, you have to go the the prefs/toolbar and put back the correct action for the buttons, then save the prefs again. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
