[WikiEducator] A free OER portal page in WE
Hi Everyone, I've created a resource and supporting templates for organisations to create a free portal page to profile their OER projects and activities on WikiEducator. This is a do-it-yourself resource which automates some of the more complex navigation templates. I'm looking for volunteers to help us test the resource and see how this works. I extend an open invitation to all organisations on this list who have OER projects hosted on WikiEducator to try this out and give us feedback on how we might improve the instructions and refine the approach to meet your needs. See: http://wikieducator.org/Create_and_institutional_OER_portal_page Remember our community motto: Just try it -- our community will support you! Have fun. -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ or books in the case of Wikibooks http://www.en.wikibooks.org/ . Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims, while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example: - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum requirements. - There are individuals who develop materials on WikiEducator which they would like to make available for others to create derivative works, but would prefer not to have other educators edit their materials. - There are many projects in WikiEducator which are seeking wide collaboration and contributions from the community. So the question is: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE given the different intentions of our individual contributions? Valerie has alerted my attention to this important topic (see: http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_category_(3)) -- Thanks Valerie. So what is the best way to signify intent and ownership of OER materials in WikiEducator. How do we communicate and respect a contributor's intention where they do not want collaborative authoring and participation on their OER resources? If an educator finds a valuable resource they want to use and improve -- can they edit and change the resource without creating problems for the original authors resulting from their modifications? Clearly we need a mechanism to visually communicate the intent of the creator to prospective editors. We need a messaging system which says, for instance: - I need help and welcome WikiEducators to collaborate, edit and improve this resource, or - I have no problems if you copy this resource and modify for your own purposes -- but will appreciate if you don't make changes because I'm using this in my course, or - I don't mind editorial improvements but don't want editors to make substantive changes to my OER --- suggestions and comments are welcome on the corresponding talk page. It seems to me that we need a template or content infobox which clearly communicates the intent of the original OER creator in terms of permissible contributions and/or restrictions with regard to community edits. Thoughts? Are there any other intents than those listed above? You gotta love the WikiEducator project -- we're figuring out solutions that work for education. We're pioneering the future that has already happened :-). Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends, It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ or books in the case of Wikibooks http://www.en.wikibooks.org/ . Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims, while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example: - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum requirements. - There are individuals who develop materials on WikiEducator which they would like to make available for others to create derivative works, but would prefer not to have other educators edit their materials. - There are many projects in WikiEducator which are seeking wide collaboration and contributions from the community. So the question is: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE given the different intentions of our individual contributions? Valerie has alerted my attention to this important topic (see: http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_category_(3)) -- Thanks Valerie. So what is the best way to signify intent and ownership of OER materials in WikiEducator. How do we communicate and respect a contributor's intention where they do not want collaborative authoring and participation on their OER resources? If an educator finds a valuable resource they want to use and improve -- can they edit and change the resource without creating problems for the original authors resulting from their modifications? Clearly we need a mechanism to visually communicate the intent of the creator to prospective editors. We need a messaging system which says, for instance: - I need help and welcome WikiEducators to collaborate, edit and improve this resource, or - I have no problems if you copy this resource and modify for your own purposes -- but will appreciate if you don't make changes because I'm using this in my course, or - I don't mind editorial improvements but don't want editors to make substantive changes to my OER --- suggestions and comments are welcome on the corresponding talk page. It seems to me that we need a template or content infobox which clearly communicates the intent of the original OER creator in terms of permissible contributions and/or restrictions with regard to community edits. Thoughts? Are there any other intents than those listed above? You gotta love the WikiEducator project -- we're figuring out solutions that work for education. We're pioneering the future that has already happened :-). Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- Warm regards Anil --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi Anil, I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an intent to collaborate on the development of a universal resource which would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts. However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under the New Zealand curriculum. Obviously the New Zealand curriculum requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource. In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching materials avialble for adaptation and reuse in other contexts, but would not want teachers from other countries to alter the teaching materials in ways that it may not align with their national curriculum. (If you see what I mean.) I'm thinking here of ways to best communicate the intentions of the resource creator. Its not protected becuase the content is freely available to be copied and modified for use in another learning situation. On the other hand -- resources which are intended for univeral use (and ultimately part of an International Qualifications Framework) would need to focus and support WikiEducator's evolving consensus processes. Does this make sense? Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends, It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ or books in the case of Wikibooks http://www.en.wikibooks.org/ . Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims, while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example: - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum requirements. - There are individuals who develop materials on WikiEducator which they would like to make available for others to create derivative works, but would prefer not to have other educators edit their materials. - There are many projects in WikiEducator which are seeking wide collaboration and contributions from the community. So the question is: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE given the different intentions of our individual contributions? Valerie has alerted my attention to this important topic (see: http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_category_(3)http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_category_%283%29) -- Thanks Valerie. So what is the best way to signify intent and ownership of OER materials in WikiEducator. How do we communicate and respect a contributor's intention where they do not want collaborative authoring and participation on their OER resources? If an educator finds a valuable resource they want to use and improve -- can they edit and change the resource without creating problems for the original authors resulting from their modifications? Clearly we need a mechanism to visually communicate the intent of the creator to prospective editors. We need a messaging system which says, for instance: - I need help and welcome WikiEducators to collaborate, edit and improve this resource, or - I have no problems if you copy this resource and modify for your own purposes -- but will appreciate if you don't make
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus to ‘do not edit’ :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines and Policy for page protection also I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but thinking about the right documentation for the same. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an intent to collaborate on the development of a universal resource which would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts. However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under the New Zealand curriculum. Obviously the New Zealand curriculum requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource. In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching materials avialble for adaptation and reuse in other contexts, but would not want teachers from other countries to alter the teaching materials in ways that it may not align with their national curriculum. (If you see what I mean.) I'm thinking here of ways to best communicate the intentions of the resource creator. Its not protected becuase the content is freely available to be copied and modified for use in another learning situation. On the other hand -- resources which are intended for univeral use (and ultimately part of an International Qualifications Framework) would need to focus and support WikiEducator's evolving consensus processes. Does this make sense? Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends, It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ or books in the case of Wikibooks http://www.en.wikibooks.org/ . Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims, while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example: - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum requirements. - There are individuals who develop materials on WikiEducator which they would like to make available for others to create derivative works, but would prefer not to have other educators edit their materials. - There are many projects in WikiEducator which are seeking wide collaboration and contributions from the community. So the question is: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE given the different intentions of our individual contributions? Valerie has alerted my attention to this important topic (see: http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_category_(3)http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_category_%283%29) -- Thanks Valerie. So what is the best way to signify intent and ownership of OER materials in WikiEducator. How do we communicate and respect a contributor's intention where they do not want collaborative authoring and participation on their OER resources? If an educator finds a valuable resource they want to use and improve -- can they edit
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi Anil, I see we're on the same page here :-) I'm not calling or suggesting universal protection of pages -- far from it -- it's not the wiki way. I'm looking for us to find solutions within the ambit of our consensus thinking to provide an indication to prospective editors to say please don't edit this page --- what I envisage is a template box which communicates this message -- including the range of reasons this may be necessary within the template box, without protecting the page. Does this make sense? W 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus to ‘do not edit’ :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines and Policy for page protection also I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but thinking about the right documentation for the same. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an intent to collaborate on the development of a universal resource which would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts. However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under the New Zealand curriculum. Obviously the New Zealand curriculum requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource. In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching materials avialble for adaptation and reuse in other contexts, but would not want teachers from other countries to alter the teaching materials in ways that it may not align with their national curriculum. (If you see what I mean.) I'm thinking here of ways to best communicate the intentions of the resource creator. Its not protected becuase the content is freely available to be copied and modified for use in another learning situation. On the other hand -- resources which are intended for univeral use (and ultimately part of an International Qualifications Framework) would need to focus and support WikiEducator's evolving consensus processes. Does this make sense? Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends, It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ or books in the case of Wikibooks http://www.en.wikibooks.org/ . Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims, while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example: - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum requirements. - There are individuals who develop materials on WikiEducator which they would like to make available for others to create derivative works, but would prefer not to have other educators edit their materials. - There are many projects in WikiEducator which are seeking wide collaboration and contributions from the community. So the question is: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE given the different intentions of our individual contributions?
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Dear Dr. Wayne, You are right. We may list out the instances with reason, the message to be displayed for each instance, develop template and add it on consensus page http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus under a proper sub title. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I see we're on the same page here :-) I'm not calling or suggesting universal protection of pages -- far from it -- it's not the wiki way. I'm looking for us to find solutions within the ambit of our consensus thinking to provide an indication to prospective editors to say please don't edit this page --- what I envisage is a template box which communicates this message -- including the range of reasons this may be necessary within the template box, without protecting the page. Does this make sense? W 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus to ‘do not edit’ :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines and Policy for page protection also I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but thinking about the right documentation for the same. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an intent to collaborate on the development of a universal resource which would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts. However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under the New Zealand curriculum. Obviously the New Zealand curriculum requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource. In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching materials avialble for adaptation and reuse in other contexts, but would not want teachers from other countries to alter the teaching materials in ways that it may not align with their national curriculum. (If you see what I mean.) I'm thinking here of ways to best communicate the intentions of the resource creator. Its not protected becuase the content is freely available to be copied and modified for use in another learning situation. On the other hand -- resources which are intended for univeral use (and ultimately part of an International Qualifications Framework) would need to focus and support WikiEducator's evolving consensus processes. Does this make sense? Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends, It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ or books in the case of Wikibooks http://www.en.wikibooks.org/ . Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims, while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example: - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum requirements. - There are individuals who develop materials on WikiEducator which they would like to make available for others to create derivative
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi Anil, Good idea -- lets get this done based on the feedback we receive on the list :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne, You are right. We may list out the instances with reason, the message to be displayed for each instance, develop template and add it on consensus page http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus under a proper sub title. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I see we're on the same page here :-) I'm not calling or suggesting universal protection of pages -- far from it -- it's not the wiki way. I'm looking for us to find solutions within the ambit of our consensus thinking to provide an indication to prospective editors to say please don't edit this page --- what I envisage is a template box which communicates this message -- including the range of reasons this may be necessary within the template box, without protecting the page. Does this make sense? W 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus to ‘do not edit’ :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines and Policy for page protection also I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but thinking about the right documentation for the same. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an intent to collaborate on the development of a universal resource which would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts. However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under the New Zealand curriculum. Obviously the New Zealand curriculum requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource. In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching materials avialble for adaptation and reuse in other contexts, but would not want teachers from other countries to alter the teaching materials in ways that it may not align with their national curriculum. (If you see what I mean.) I'm thinking here of ways to best communicate the intentions of the resource creator. Its not protected becuase the content is freely available to be copied and modified for use in another learning situation. On the other hand -- resources which are intended for univeral use (and ultimately part of an International Qualifications Framework) would need to focus and support WikiEducator's evolving consensus processes. Does this make sense? Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends, It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ or books in the case of Wikibooks http://www.en.wikibooks.org/ . Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims, while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example: - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Have been reading the interesting thread started by Wayne and between Wayne and Anil. I agree with Wayne that these are the kind of issues/questions asked about WE - specially when some materials are created for a particular context and people do not want it modified. In case we develop suitable templates indicating the intend of the authors then it should be acceptable. Savithri 2009/10/20 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Hi Anil, Good idea -- lets get this done based on the feedback we receive on the list :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne, You are right. We may list out the instances with reason, the message to be displayed for each instance, develop template and add it on consensus page http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus under a proper sub title. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I see we're on the same page here :-) I'm not calling or suggesting universal protection of pages -- far from it -- it's not the wiki way. I'm looking for us to find solutions within the ambit of our consensus thinking to provide an indication to prospective editors to say please don't edit this page --- what I envisage is a template box which communicates this message -- including the range of reasons this may be necessary within the template box, without protecting the page. Does this make sense? W 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus to ‘do not edit’ :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines and Policy for page protection also I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but thinking about the right documentation for the same. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an intent to collaborate on the development of a universal resource which would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts. However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under the New Zealand curriculum. Obviously the New Zealand curriculum requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource. In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching materials avialble for adaptation and reuse in other contexts, but would not want teachers from other countries to alter the teaching materials in ways that it may not align with their national curriculum. (If you see what I mean.) I'm thinking here of ways to best communicate the intentions of the resource creator. Its not protected becuase the content is freely available to be copied and modified for use in another learning situation. On the other hand -- resources which are intended for univeral use (and ultimately part of an International Qualifications Framework) would need to focus and support WikiEducator's evolving consensus processes. Does this make sense? Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends, It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia
[WikiEducator] We're making history again
Hi Everyone, We've just received notification from Jim that he has installed a Hebrew localisation for WE :-) On behalf of OERF and the WikiEducator family I'd like to express our thanks and gratitude to Jim's tireless commitment and technical support. This is an important prototype for WikiEducator being our first language install for a right-to-left language. http://he.WikiEducator.org/ http://he.wikieducator.org/ We're very fortunate to have a dedicated team in Israel under the trusted leadership of Nellie, one of our Community Council members who will guide us through this process. We should take a moment to reflect on the power of the open source software model. None of this would have been possible without the language localisations available using the best wiki software engine in the world -- Mediawiki! Some extensions used by the WikiEducator installation may not be translated yet -- I hope that our WikiEducator colleagues in Israel will help in translating these extensions as our contribution back to the Mediawiki community. Gee -- you gotta love the open source software model. Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi Savithri, You're right -- the educational issues relating to context and educators who may not want their teaching resources modified is an opportunity for WikiEducator to find creative solutions. We're very fortunate to have a dedicated and experienced team from India who will help us to find the optimal solution! Seems that the template idea is the right way to go -- we'll fine tune the ideas based on feedback and develop a prototype template for review. Cheer Wayne 2009/10/20 Savithri Singh singh.savit...@gmail.com Have been reading the interesting thread started by Wayne and between Wayne and Anil. I agree with Wayne that these are the kind of issues/questions asked about WE - specially when some materials are created for a particular context and people do not want it modified. In case we develop suitable templates indicating the intend of the authors then it should be acceptable Savithri 2009/10/20 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Hi Anil, Good idea -- lets get this done based on the feedback we receive on the list :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne, You are right. We may list out the instances with reason, the message to be displayed for each instance, develop template and add it on consensus page http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus under a proper sub title. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I see we're on the same page here :-) I'm not calling or suggesting universal protection of pages -- far from it -- it's not the wiki way. I'm looking for us to find solutions within the ambit of our consensus thinking to provide an indication to prospective editors to say please don't edit this page --- what I envisage is a template box which communicates this message -- including the range of reasons this may be necessary within the template box, without protecting the page. Does this make sense? W 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus to ‘do not edit’ :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines and Policy for page protection also I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but thinking about the right documentation for the same. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an intent to collaborate on the development of a universal resource which would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts. However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under the New Zealand curriculum. Obviously the New Zealand curriculum requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource. In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching materials avialble for adaptation and reuse in other contexts, but would not want teachers from other countries to alter the teaching materials in ways that it may not align with their national curriculum. (If you see what I mean.) I'm thinking here of ways to best communicate the intentions of the resource creator. Its not protected becuase the content is freely available to be copied and modified for use in another learning situation. On the other hand -- resources which are intended for univeral use (and ultimately part of an International Qualifications Framework) would need to focus and support WikiEducator's evolving consensus processes. Does this make sense? Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends, It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of
[WikiEducator] Re: We're making history again
CONGRATULATIONS!!! A PROUD MOMENT INDEED!!! On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, We've just received notification from Jim that he has installed a Hebrew localisation for WE :-) On behalf of OERF and the WikiEducator family I'd like to express our thanks and gratitude to Jim's tireless commitment and technical support. This is an important prototype for WikiEducator being our first language install for a right-to-left language. http://he.WikiEducator.org/ http://he.wikieducator.org/ We're very fortunate to have a dedicated team in Israel under the trusted leadership of Nellie, one of our Community Council members who will guide us through this process. We should take a moment to reflect on the power of the open source software model. None of this would have been possible without the language localisations available using the best wiki software engine in the world -- Mediawiki! Some extensions used by the WikiEducator installation may not be translated yet -- I hope that our WikiEducator colleagues in Israel will help in translating these extensions as our contribution back to the Mediawiki community. Gee -- you gotta love the open source software model. Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- Warm regards Anil Prasad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi, all. Just some thoughts on this. First, I agree it is not a collaboration vs. protection agrument. In fact, I'll remind the list members that WE is under the Creative Commons license, which specifically does not prevent using and further changing of a document; but that is not the same as not wanting a specific page to be edited in place (but allowing copying and derivatives to be done). Yes, I do think that a template might be the way to go. The templates probably should state not only the permissions but also very briefly why. For example, it is being used in a current course. Therefore, we may need more than three templates. One possible wording for the template where the user wants some restraint (I use that term in place of restriction) might be something like You are free to use this resource, however it is being used for a current course. If you wish to change it, please copying it to another page and make changes there. Finally, I was wondering if it is possible in Mediawiki to have branches as most version control systems have. That way, using Wayne's example, a New Zealand teacher could simply branch the Ugandan project to suit his own needs. Cheers, John http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWS http://johnsearth.blogspot.com From: Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 5:17:49 PM Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE? Hi Savithri, You're right -- the educational issues relating to context and educators who may not want their teaching resources modified is an opportunity for WikiEducator to find creative solutions. We're very fortunate to have a dedicated and experienced team from India who will help us to find the optimal solution! Seems that the template idea is the right way to go -- we'll fine tune the ideas based on feedback and develop a prototype template for review. Cheer Wayne 2009/10/20 Savithri Singh singh.savit...@gmail.com Have been reading the interesting thread started by Wayne and between Wayne and Anil. I agree with Wayne that these are the kind of issues/questions asked about WE - specially when some materials are created for a particular context and people do not want it modified. In case we develop suitable templates indicating the intend of the authors then it should be acceptable Savithri 2009/10/20 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Hi Anil, Good idea -- lets get this done based on the feedback we receive on the list :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne, You are right. We may list out the instances with reason, the message to be displayed for each instance, develop template and add it on consensus page http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus under a proper sub title. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I see we're on the same page here :-) I'm not calling or suggesting universal protection of pages -- far from it -- it's not the wiki way. I'm looking for us to find solutions within the ambit of our consensus thinking to provide an indication to prospective editors to say please don't edit this page --- what I envisage is a template box which communicates this message -- including the range of reasons this may be necessary within the template box, without protecting the page. Does this make sense? W 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus to ‘do not edit’ :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines and Policy for page protection also I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but thinking about the right documentation for the same. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an intent to collaborate on the development of a universal resource which would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts. However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under the New Zealand curriculum. Obviously the New Zealand curriculum requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource. In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching
[WikiEducator] Re: We're making history again
congrats all!!! Savithri 2009/10/20 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Hi Everyone, We've just received notification from Jim that he has installed a Hebrew localisation for WE :-) On behalf of OERF and the WikiEducator family I'd like to express our thanks and gratitude to Jim's tireless commitment and technical support. This is an important prototype for WikiEducator being our first language install for a right-to-left language. http://he.WikiEducator.org/ http://he.wikieducator.org/ We're very fortunate to have a dedicated team in Israel under the trusted leadership of Nellie, one of our Community Council members who will guide us through this process. We should take a moment to reflect on the power of the open source software model. None of this would have been possible without the language localisations available using the best wiki software engine in the world -- Mediawiki! Some extensions used by the WikiEducator installation may not be translated yet -- I hope that our WikiEducator colleagues in Israel will help in translating these extensions as our contribution back to the Mediawiki community. Gee -- you gotta love the open source software model. Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह प्रधानाचार्य आचार्य नरेन्द्र देव कॉलेज ( दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय ) गोविन्दपुरी, कालकाजी नयी दिल्ली 110019 Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 97862584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl http://wikieducator.org/India http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: We're making history again
This is great news! Congratulations! Some time ago I had started the Germany WikiEducator (http://www.wikieducator.org/Germany). It would be nice to have a German localization as well. Cheers, Patricia From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:04 AM To: WikiEducator Subject: [WikiEducator] We're making history again Hi Everyone, We've just received notification from Jim that he has installed a Hebrew localisation for WE :-) On behalf of OERF and the WikiEducator family I'd like to express our thanks and gratitude to Jim's tireless commitment and technical support. This is an important prototype for WikiEducator being our first language install for a right-to-left language. http://he.WikiEducator.org/ We're very fortunate to have a dedicated team in Israel under the trusted leadership of Nellie, one of our Community Council members who will guide us through this process. We should take a moment to reflect on the power of the open source software model. None of this would have been possible without the language localisations available using the best wiki software engine in the world -- Mediawiki! Some extensions used by the WikiEducator installation may not be translated yet -- I hope that our WikiEducator colleagues in Israel will help in translating these extensions as our contribution back to the Mediawiki community. Gee -- you gotta love the open source software model. Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: We're making history again
Hi All, It will be good to have a page like: www.wikieducator.org/Language_Installations, where all of the language installations are updated, and in one place. Anyone know how many language installations we have thus far and which are planned? Any ideas on organizations / individuals which could sponsor these new installations? - Randy On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.orgwrote: This is great news! Congratulations! Some time ago I had started the Germany WikiEducator ( http://www.wikieducator.org/Germany). It would be nice to have a German localization as well. Cheers, Patricia *From:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto: wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Wayne Mackintosh *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:04 AM *To:* WikiEducator *Subject:* [WikiEducator] We're making history again Hi Everyone, We've just received notification from Jim that he has installed a Hebrew localisation for WE :-) On behalf of OERF and the WikiEducator family I'd like to express our thanks and gratitude to Jim's tireless commitment and technical support. This is an important prototype for WikiEducator being our first language install for a right-to-left language. http://he.WikiEducator.org/ http://he.wikieducator.org/ We're very fortunate to have a dedicated team in Israel under the trusted leadership of Nellie, one of our Community Council members who will guide us through this process. We should take a moment to reflect on the power of the open source software model. None of this would have been possible without the language localisations available using the best wiki software engine in the world -- Mediawiki! Some extensions used by the WikiEducator installation may not be translated yet -- I hope that our WikiEducator colleagues in Israel will help in translating these extensions as our contribution back to the Mediawiki community. Gee -- you gotta love the open source software model. Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: [WikiEducator] We're making history again
Wow, Nadia, this is wonderful. Just had a quick look. I had no idea you spoke German? Nice! Cheers and thanks for sharing this Cheers, Patricia From: wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nadia El Borai Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:50 AM To: wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: [WikiEducator] We're making history again Dear Patricia, I added my German content to your Wikieducator page below I am not sure if it is appropriate please feel free to change the place or title it should have. I wasn't quite sure how to add it. Here it is for a start http://www.wikieducator.org/Inhalt#Anderer_Inhalt Nadia On Oct 20, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Patricia Schlicht wrote: This is great news! Congratulations! Some time ago I had started the Germany WikiEducator (http://www.wikieducator.org/Germany). It would be nice to have a German localization as well. Cheers, Patricia From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:04 AM To: WikiEducator Subject: [WikiEducator] We're making history again Hi Everyone, We've just received notification from Jim that he has installed a Hebrew localisation for WE :-) On behalf of OERF and the WikiEducator family I'd like to express our thanks and gratitude to Jim's tireless commitment and technical support. This is an important prototype for WikiEducator being our first language install for a right-to-left language. http://he.WikiEducator.org/ We're very fortunate to have a dedicated team in Israel under the trusted leadership of Nellie, one of our Community Council members who will guide us through this process. We should take a moment to reflect on the power of the open source software model. None of this would have been possible without the language localisations available using the best wiki software engine in the world -- Mediawiki! Some extensions used by the WikiEducator installation may not be translated yet -- I hope that our WikiEducator colleagues in Israel will help in translating these extensions as our contribution back to the Mediawiki community. Gee -- you gotta love the open source software model. Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Protecting original efforts and years of research is a serious question that WE and wiki's, in general, must come to terms with before they will truly benefit the communities they serve. One reason I use some jpeg images to display research information in my WE pages is to provide some protection (like: http://www.wikieducator.org/ADDITION_%28DECIMAL%29_-_SUMA_%28ADICION%29_-_ADDITION_%28DECIMALE%29 ). While most of my website k-12math.info is viewable HTML code, the research is kept in a MySQL database accessed only by a PHP program. The PHP program is to protect the information – having to watch 1,000's of pieces of information from being “spammed” on a daily bases is the last thing I want to do. I am hoping that Wiki architecture will undergo some modifications to allow approved information to be stored in protected areas – I am not sure the please don't edit this page approach will work. Jim Kelly http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Jkelly952 On Oct 20, 4:31 am, john stampe jwsta...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, all. Just some thoughts on this. First, I agree it is not a collaboration vs. protection agrument. In fact, I'll remind the list members that WE is under the Creative Commons license, which specifically does not prevent using and further changing of a document; but that is not the same as not wanting a specific page to be edited in place (but allowing copying and derivatives to be done). Yes, I do think that a template might be the way to go. The templates probably should state not only the permissions but also very briefly why. For example, it is being used in a current course. Therefore, we may need more than three templates. One possible wording for the template where the user wants some restraint (I use that term in place of restriction) might be something like You are free to use this resource, however it is being used for a current course. If you wish to change it, please copying it to another page and make changes there. Finally, I was wondering if it is possible in Mediawiki to have branches as most version control systems have. That way, using Wayne's example, a New Zealand teacher could simply branch the Ugandan project to suit his own needs. Cheers, Johnhttp://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWShttp://johnsearth.blogspot.com From: Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 5:17:49 PM Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE? Hi Savithri, You're right -- the educational issues relating to context and educators who may not want their teaching resources modified is an opportunity for WikiEducator to find creative solutions. We're very fortunate to have a dedicated and experienced team from India who will help us to find the optimal solution! Seems that the template idea is the right way to go -- we'll fine tune the ideas based on feedback and develop a prototype template for review. Cheer Wayne 2009/10/20 Savithri Singh singh.savit...@gmail.com Have been reading the interesting thread started by Wayne and between Wayne and Anil. I agree with Wayne that these are the kind of issues/questions asked about WE - specially when some materials are created for a particular context and people do not want it modified. In case we develop suitable templates indicating the intend of the authors then it should be acceptable Savithri 2009/10/20 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Hi Anil, Good idea -- lets get this done based on the feedback we receive on the list :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne, You are right. We may list out the instances with reason, the message to be displayed for each instance, develop template and add it on consensus pagehttp://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensusunder a proper sub title. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I see we're on the same page here :-) I'm not calling or suggesting universal protection of pages -- far from it -- it's not the wiki way. I'm looking for us to find solutions within the ambit of our consensus thinking to provide an indication to prospective editors to say please don't edit this page --- what I envisage is a template box which communicates this message -- including the range of reasons this may be necessary within the template box, without protecting the page. Does this make sense? W 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus to ‘do not edit’ :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines and Policy for page protection also I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but
[WikiEducator] Re: We're making history again
WE Rocks! Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops on WikiEducator: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, We've just received notification from Jim that he has installed a Hebrew localisation for WE :-) On behalf of OERF and the WikiEducator family I'd like to express our thanks and gratitude to Jim's tireless commitment and technical support. This is an important prototype for WikiEducator being our first language install for a right-to-left language. http://he.WikiEducator.org/ http://he.wikieducator.org/ We're very fortunate to have a dedicated team in Israel under the trusted leadership of Nellie, one of our Community Council members who will guide us through this process. We should take a moment to reflect on the power of the open source software model. None of this would have been possible without the language localisations available using the best wiki software engine in the world -- Mediawiki! Some extensions used by the WikiEducator installation may not be translated yet -- I hope that our WikiEducator colleagues in Israel will help in translating these extensions as our contribution back to the Mediawiki community. Gee -- you gotta love the open source software model. Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Using templates...
Hello everybody and many thanks for your help. Jesse thank you, these are the links I was looking for! ;-) Nellie, yes I have joined a WE workshop last year. It was really really helpful! Wayne, thanks a lot for making this clear. I have to admit that during the workshop I hadn't work on templates... well I'll do it now! Jorge, even though I love Spanish I haven't study them yet. But I am sure that -thanks to my French and English- I'll be able to get the point. Thank you all, I'll probably come again with new questions... :-) anna On Oct 19, 5:50 pm, Jorge Vidals j_vid...@yahoo.com.mx wrote: Anna, Follow Wayne, Nellie and Jesse's advice. Start to translate from English WikiEducator is more than only translate or copy templates. You need to know how templates work. You can find more information about this topic on this pagehttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates. If you are going to translate tutorials you need to download pictures from English WE and upload to Greek instance. Maybe you need to create a few templates too. If you are getting new links (in red color) it means you need to create them. Translate from English instance is a wonderful experience if you are patient you will learn more about wiki edition. If you know some of Spanish language you can find what Spanish translation team are doing onhttp://es.wikieducator.org/Equipo_de_traduccionand onhttp://es.wikieducator.org/Usuario:J_vidals/My_Sandbox. If you have any questions or comments about this do not hetitate to e- mail me. Warm regards Jorgehttp://www.wikieducator.org/User:J_vidals On Oct 18, 3:14 pm, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Anna You will need to copy over the tempates from the English WikiEducator and create the equivalent version in el.wikieducator. So for example: For example, you will need to create a Greek equivalent for Template:Font_page_news in the Greek version. Here is a tutorial explaining how templates work: http://wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Navigation_templates We're very excited about seeing el.wikieducator evolve :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/10/19 annak akra...@gmail.com Hello everybody, I am trying to built the new el.wikieducator.org I want to copy the front page and the help files and translate them. But when I copy these pages instead of the templates I get a new link... Has anyone any idea to overcome this obstacle? Thank you in advance, :-) anna -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Using templates...
Keep up the great attitude, Anna. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops on WikiEducator: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, annak akra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody and many thanks for your help. Jesse thank you, these are the links I was looking for! ;-) Nellie, yes I have joined a WE workshop last year. It was really really helpful! Wayne, thanks a lot for making this clear. I have to admit that during the workshop I hadn't work on templates... well I'll do it now! Jorge, even though I love Spanish I haven't study them yet. But I am sure that -thanks to my French and English- I'll be able to get the point. Thank you all, I'll probably come again with new questions... :-) anna On Oct 19, 5:50 pm, Jorge Vidals j_vid...@yahoo.com.mx wrote: Anna, Follow Wayne, Nellie and Jesse's advice. Start to translate from English WikiEducator is more than only translate or copy templates. You need to know how templates work. You can find more information about this topic on this pagehttp:// www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates. If you are going to translate tutorials you need to download pictures from English WE and upload to Greek instance. Maybe you need to create a few templates too. If you are getting new links (in red color) it means you need to create them. Translate from English instance is a wonderful experience if you are patient you will learn more about wiki edition. If you know some of Spanish language you can find what Spanish translation team are doing onhttp://es.wikieducator.org/Equipo_de_traduccionand onhttp:// es.wikieducator.org/Usuario:J_vidals/My_Sandbox. If you have any questions or comments about this do not hetitate to e- mail me. Warm regards Jorgehttp://www.wikieducator.org/User:J_vidals On Oct 18, 3:14 pm, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Anna You will need to copy over the tempates from the English WikiEducator and create the equivalent version in el.wikieducator. So for example: For example, you will need to create a Greek equivalent for Template:Font_page_news in the Greek version. Here is a tutorial explaining how templates work: http://wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Navigation_templates We're very excited about seeing el.wikieducator evolve :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/10/19 annak akra...@gmail.com Hello everybody, I am trying to built the new el.wikieducator.org I want to copy the front page and the help files and translate them. But when I copy these pages instead of the templates I get a new link... Has anyone any idea to overcome this obstacle? Thank you in advance, :-) anna -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: A free OER portal page in WE
Hello all, I tested the resource, it works great, however, how institutions won't be able to personalize the logo in the template since it is locked because it is a general nav template. I beleive there is a way to solve this issue... no doubts Please see my test: http://wikieducator.org/AF_Centro_Aprendizaje_Flexible Saludos http://wikieducator.org/AF_Centro_Aprendizaje_Flexible/About On Oct 20, 7:06 am, Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I noticed the word syntax here - Create and institutional So, I've changed it to: Create an institutional OER Page. I've left both version...http://www.wikieducator.org/Create_an_institutional_OER_portal_page Either way, it's a great idea! - Thanks Wayne. - Randy On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I've created a resource and supporting templates for organisations to create a free portal page to profile their OER projects and activities on WikiEducator. This is a do-it-yourself resource which automates some of the more complex navigation templates. I'm looking for volunteers to help us test the resource and see how this works. I extend an open invitation to all organisations on this list who have OER projects hosted on WikiEducator to try this out and give us feedback on how we might improve the instructions and refine the approach to meet your needs. See: http://wikieducator.org/Create_and_institutional_OER_portal_page Remember our community motto: Just try it -- our community will support you! Have fun. -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council,www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio:http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: A free OER portal page in WE
Sorry for the how typo... 2009/10/20 Gladys Gahona gladysgah...@gmail.com Hello all, I tested the resource, it works great, however, how institutions won't be able to personalize the logo in the template since it is locked because it is a general nav template. I beleive there is a way to solve this issue... no doubts Please see my test: http://wikieducator.org/AF_Centro_Aprendizaje_Flexible Saludos http://wikieducator.org/AF_Centro_Aprendizaje_Flexible/About On Oct 20, 7:06 am, Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I noticed the word syntax here - Create and institutional So, I've changed it to: Create an institutional OER Page. I've left both version... http://www.wikieducator.org/Create_an_institutional_OER_portal_page Either way, it's a great idea! - Thanks Wayne. - Randy On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I've created a resource and supporting templates for organisations to create a free portal page to profile their OER projects and activities on WikiEducator. This is a do-it-yourself resource which automates some of the more complex navigation templates. I'm looking for volunteers to help us test the resource and see how this works. I extend an open invitation to all organisations on this list who have OER projects hosted on WikiEducator to try this out and give us feedback on how we might improve the instructions and refine the approach to meet your needs. See: http://wikieducator.org/Create_and_institutional_OER_portal_page Remember our community motto: Just try it -- our community will support you! Have fun. -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council,www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio:http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com -- Gladys Gahona http://www.gladysgahona.com http://www.wikieducator.org/Learning4Content/Workshops/Online_schedule/eL4C31 http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops Skype:chela5808 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: A free OER portal page in WE
Hi Wayne, Gladys,and everyone, Thanks for this great resource. No doubt,it will go a long way to make matters better. I have tested and see it works well. At the Uganda node (http://www.wikieducator.org/OERUG) and (http://www.wikieducator.org/Uganda_Schools_OER_Portal/Resources), we have had to adjust it slightly to reflect, for instance Ugandan examples, and a Uganda relevant template with a Uganda logo,which we believe will help increase ownership and we have also linked it from our portal. Cheers Vincent . On Oct 20, 9:15 am, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I've created a resource and supporting templates for organisations to create a free portal page to profile their OER projects and activities on WikiEducator. This is a do-it-yourself resource which automates some of the more complex navigation templates. I'm looking for volunteers to help us test the resource and see how this works. I extend an open invitation to all organisations on this list who have OER projects hosted on WikiEducator to try this out and give us feedback on how we might improve the instructions and refine the approach to meet your needs. See: http://wikieducator.org/Create_and_institutional_OER_portal_page Remember our community motto: Just try it -- our community will support you! Have fun. -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: A free OER portal page in WE
Yes Vincent... a solution could be, developing an alternate nav template (personalized) Saludos 2009/10/20 vkizza vkizza2...@yahoo.co.uk Hi Wayne, Gladys,and everyone, Thanks for this great resource. No doubt,it will go a long way to make matters better. I have tested and see it works well. At the Uganda node (http://www.wikieducator.org/OERUG) and (http://www.wikieducator.org/Uganda_Schools_OER_Portal/Resources), we have had to adjust it slightly to reflect, for instance Ugandan examples, and a Uganda relevant template with a Uganda logo,which we believe will help increase ownership and we have also linked it from our portal. Cheers Vincent . On Oct 20, 9:15 am, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I've created a resource and supporting templates for organisations to create a free portal page to profile their OER projects and activities on WikiEducator. This is a do-it-yourself resource which automates some of the more complex navigation templates. I'm looking for volunteers to help us test the resource and see how this works. I extend an open invitation to all organisations on this list who have OER projects hosted on WikiEducator to try this out and give us feedback on how we might improve the instructions and refine the approach to meet your needs. See: http://wikieducator.org/Create_and_institutional_OER_portal_page Remember our community motto: Just try it -- our community will support you! Have fun. -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- Gladys Gahona http://www.gladysgahona.com http://www.wikieducator.org/Learning4Content/Workshops/Online_schedule/eL4C31 http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops Skype:chela5808 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: A free OER portal page in WE
Hi Randy, Well spotted -- thanks for the correction. Together we achieve more than working alone. I went to sleep last night with a mistake on the page -- this morning I woke up and the typo was fixed. Now that's magic! Wayne 2009/10/21 Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com Hi Everyone, I noticed the word syntax here - Create and institutional So, I've changed it to: Create an institutional OER Page. I've left both version... http://www.wikieducator.org/Create_an_institutional_OER_portal_page Either way, it's a great idea! - Thanks Wayne. - Randy On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I've created a resource and supporting templates for organisations to create a free portal page to profile their OER projects and activities on WikiEducator. This is a do-it-yourself resource which automates some of the more complex navigation templates. I'm looking for volunteers to help us test the resource and see how this works. I extend an open invitation to all organisations on this list who have OER projects hosted on WikiEducator to try this out and give us feedback on how we might improve the instructions and refine the approach to meet your needs. See: http://wikieducator.org/Create_and_institutional_OER_portal_page Remember our community motto: Just try it -- our community will support you! Have fun. -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi Everyone, Valid observation indeed. Also given that school curricular are relatively static even within long time windows,(..or at least in my country!) the need to protect resources designed round them cannot be overemphasized . Maybe a kind of status value to reflect resource states such as under development,completed or even abandoned, could be attached to a resource such that merciless editing is more encouraged at certain appropriate points than at others in the proposed template or info box. Conversely,this discussion has greatly reminded me of WE cute built-in features such as discussion forums and the community values which are invaluable in collaboration intensive projects and could explain the relatively low number of blocked users. Cheers Vincent On Oct 20, 10:16 am, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example shared training materials. Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc. Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia articles in the case of Wikipedia http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ or books in the case of Wikibooks http://www.en.wikibooks.org/ . Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims, while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example: - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum requirements. - There are individuals who develop materials on WikiEducator which they would like to make available for others to create derivative works, but would prefer not to have other educators edit their materials. - There are many projects in WikiEducator which are seeking wide collaboration and contributions from the community. So the question is: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE given the different intentions of our individual contributions? Valerie has alerted my attention to this important topic (see:http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_cat...)) -- Thanks Valerie. So what is the best way to signify intent and ownership of OER materials in WikiEducator. How do we communicate and respect a contributor's intention where they do not want collaborative authoring and participation on their OER resources? If an educator finds a valuable resource they want to use and improve -- can they edit and change the resource without creating problems for the original authors resulting from their modifications? Clearly we need a mechanism to visually communicate the intent of the creator to prospective editors. We need a messaging system which says, for instance: - I need help and welcome WikiEducators to collaborate, edit and improve this resource, or - I have no problems if you copy this resource and modify for your own purposes -- but will appreciate if you don't make changes because I'm using this in my course, or - I don't mind editorial improvements but don't want editors to make substantive changes to my OER --- suggestions and comments are welcome on the corresponding talk page. It seems to me that we need a template or content infobox which clearly communicates the intent of the original OER creator in terms of permissible contributions and/or restrictions with regard to community edits. Thoughts? Are there any other intents than those listed above? You gotta love the WikiEducator project -- we're figuring out solutions that work for education. We're pioneering the future that has already happened :-). Cheers Wayne -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi Everyone, Protection of pages is a topical issue :-). Apology for the long post -- but this is an important community value in open education. Clearly there are well-founded academic reasons for restricting modifications, particularly in the area of original research. That said, I think there are better social and technical solutions to respond to this challenge. I'm not comfortable with protecting wiki pages for the following reasons: - It goes against the core values of our community and our commitment to the essential freedoms - There are technological alternatives to address this need - Excluding opportunities for increased productivity in our community *Core values * A key value of WikiEducator is rooted in the freedom to help your neighbour. Our community motto says: Just try it -- our community will support you. WikiEducators should have the freedom to help a colleague, for example fixing a typo or assisting someone who may be struggling with the layout of a more complicated syntax. This is what makes our community special -- the willingness of so many to gift time for the social good of education. Moreover, the notion of protecting pages is a slippery slope when we think about human rights in a modern democracy. (Not unlike digital rights management). Protecting pages could be interpreted as an assumption of guilt -- that is we assume that another educator is potentially guilty of editing a page when they shouldn't -- so we lock the page before they can prove their innocence ;-(. Assuming guilt before proving innocence is not a world I want to live in. I think that we should remain true to our values of respecting freedom -- including the freedom of educators to say this is a course I'm teaching -- please don't change the page or this is original research and I would like to keep the original in tact We are a respectful community and my experience with WE these past three years has been exactly that. We're a top 100K website generating in the region of 9 million hits per month. In the past three years -- there have not been more than a dozen instances of vandalism -- which is pretty amazing considering the traffic of WikiEducator. *Technological alternatives to address this need* The Mediawiki software does have the tools to assist educators in monitoring their pages. The history page documents every page edit and using the Watch feature -- Mediawiki will send an email notifying primary authors of any changes. That said -- I do see the need for teachers to be able to host a static instance of their OER. Good news here -- under the OERFs current bid from the Hewlett Foundation we will be building import == export capability between WikiEducator and the Connexions platform. Therefore it will be possible for WikiEducators to host a static instance of their content and lock down editing without compromising our core values. This feature will also be very useful for teachers wanting to revise their course materials during a live session of their course ( in the case where a static version is required). We will be able to host a static version on Connexions while working on the dynamic version in WikiEducator. We are also keen to implement an educational adaption of the Flagged Revisions extension for Mediawiki (http://tinyurl.com/2n8uef) -- This would enable us to implement peer review approaches, where the default preference for users could be set to only view the latest peer reviewed version of the content -- while editors can continue working on the draft version of the OER. *Excluding opportunities for increased productivity in our community * As an open self-organising community -- we don't know how future productivity will evolve or what new innovations may emerge from our peer collaboration models. We should remain open to improvement --- and I share President Obama views in relation to open source content and the American Graduation Initiative -- We don't know where this experiment will lead, and that is exactly why we ought to try it. Cheers Wayne 2009/10/21 jkelly952 jkelly...@sbcglobal.net Protecting original efforts and years of research is a serious question that WE and wiki's, in general, must come to terms with before they will truly benefit the communities they serve. One reason I use some jpeg images to display research information in my WE pages is to provide some protection (like: http://www.wikieducator.org/ADDITION_%28DECIMAL%29_-_SUMA_%28ADICION%29_-_ADDITION_%28DECIMALE%29 ). While most of my website k-12math.info is viewable HTML code, the research is kept in a MySQL database accessed only by a PHP program. The PHP program is to protect the information – having to watch 1,000's of pieces of information from being “spammed” on a daily bases is the last thing I want to do. I am hoping that Wiki architecture will undergo some modifications to allow approved information to be stored in protected areas – I am not sure the please
[WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE?
Hi John, Apology for the delayed response -- too many emails today. It would be possible to design a single template with parameters specifying the different reasons for requesting users not to edit the page, for example: - Currently being used in a course (Typos and and syntax assistance permitted?) - Original research findings Typos and and layout assistance permitted?) - No edits whatsoever (i.e. excluding help with typos and syntax assistance?) Are there other reasons we may have missed? We can include standard suggestions /instructions in the template -- for example linking to a resource which explains how to remix content when the author does not want collaborative edits. In all cases users will be allowed to make a copy (with proper attribution) and customise according to their needs. History sensitive branching in the wiki is a little more complicated (i.e. if you want to keep the fork synchronised with the original source.) Where there are discrete sections which users want to reuse -- tansclusion may help (i.e. including part of a document in another by referencing it) -- see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transclusion. This is fun figuring out educationally relevant tweaks for our wiki project. Cheers Wayne 2009/10/21 john stampe jwsta...@yahoo.com Hi, all. Just some thoughts on this. First, I agree it is not a collaboration vs. protection agrument. In fact, I'll remind the list members that WE is under the Creative Commons license, which specifically does not prevent using and further changing of a document; but that is not the same as not wanting a specific page to be edited in place (but allowing copying and derivatives to be done). Yes, I do think that a template might be the way to go. The templates probably should state not only the permissions but also very briefly why. For example, it is being used in a current course. Therefore, we may need more than three templates. One possible wording for the template where the user wants some restraint (I use that term in place of restriction) might be something like You are free to use this resource, however it is being used for a current course. If you wish to change it, please copying it to another page and make changes there. Finally, I was wondering if it is possible in Mediawiki to have branches as most version control systems have. That way, using Wayne's example, a New Zealand teacher could simply branch the Ugandan project to suit his own needs. Cheers, John http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWS http://johnsearth.blogspot.com -- *From:* Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com *To:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 5:17:49 PM *Subject:* [WikiEducator] Re: How do we support and respect educator contributions in WE? Hi Savithri, You're right -- the educational issues relating to context and educators who may not want their teaching resources modified is an opportunity for WikiEducator to find creative solutions. We're very fortunate to have a dedicated and experienced team from India who will help us to find the optimal solution! Seems that the template idea is the right way to go -- we'll fine tune the ideas based on feedback and develop a prototype template for review. Cheer Wayne 2009/10/20 Savithri Singh singh.savit...@gmail.com Have been reading the interesting thread started by Wayne and between Wayne and Anil. I agree with Wayne that these are the kind of issues/questions asked about WE - specially when some materials are created for a particular context and people do not want it modified. In case we develop suitable templates indicating the intend of the authors then it should be acceptable Savithri 2009/10/20 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Hi Anil, Good idea -- lets get this done based on the feedback we receive on the list :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr. Wayne, You are right. We may list out the instances with reason, the message to be displayed for each instance, develop template and add it on consensus page http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus under a proper sub title. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil, I see we're on the same page here :-) I'm not calling or suggesting universal protection of pages -- far from it -- it's not the wiki way. I'm looking for us to find solutions within the ambit of our consensus thinking to provide an indication to prospective editors to say please don't edit this page --- what I envisage is a template box which communicates this message -- including the range of reasons this may be necessary within the template box, without protecting the page. Does this make sense? W 2009/10/20 aprasad aplett...@gmail.com Dear Dr.Wayne, I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can
