Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] From chapter to user group

2013-06-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
gt;
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, dennis munene 
> wrote:
>
>> I cannot think of a better name than Wikimedians in Kenya.
>>
>> Dennis.
>>
>> --
>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:18:36 +0300
>> From: wanjaus...@gmail.com
>>
>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] From chapter to user group
>>
>> Salute!
>>
>> To align the Wikimedians in Kenya to it is current state, the social
>> media accounts should as well be renamed to the new name. What has been
>> settled on as the new name?
>>
>> .S
>>
>>
>>  On 03/12/2013 02:51 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks for this cautious and tentative initiative. I continue to be
>> active as a Wikimedian (cf.
>> http://toolserver.org/~purodha/sample/dbswithuser.php?usr=Baba_Tabita&go=Go!&uselang=en)
>> and I am based in Kenya, so that presumably makes me a … Wikimedian in
>> Kenya J
>>
>> Yours for making the sum of human knowledge available to everyone on this
>> planet (and in my case, especially to everyone in the Swahili-speaking
>> communities),
>>
>> BT (aka Oliver)
>>
>>
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* dennis munene 
>> [mailto:deontemun...@hotmail.com]
>>
>> *Sent:* 12 March 2013 12:13
>> *To:* Wikimedia Kenya
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] From chapter to user group
>>
>>
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> I agree with Oscar, we were our own let down. Being a User Group should
>> not in any way dwindle our commitment. You can count me in as part of the
>> User Group [Wikimedians in Kenya?] :)
>>
>>
>>
>> dennis.
>>  --
>>
>> From: oslim...@gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:38:04 +0300
>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] From chapter to user group
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I know all of us have been absorbing and digesting this news over the
>> past couple of weeks. I think its time we now discussed and forged a way
>> forward. True we were our own let down in many ways. We failed in many ways
>> to steer ourselves to full registration 12 months after being
>> granted charter. We failed to get legal registration locally and we failed
>> to manage the 1st Start up grant for our Chapter. We failed
>> to resolve issues surrounding the embezzlement and we refused to
>> take responsibility  I think Sue and Asaf are justified to deny
>> us further recognition.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So I guess its a User group we are. As such, we need to start to chat a
>> way forward along this line. Could we start taking a new call for this user
>> group?  Remember, Officially Wikimedia Kenya Chapter is no more
>>
>>
>>
>> If you would want to join and be apart of this user group, please let us
>> start a conversation  Only if you are interested.
>>
>>
>>
>> Look forward to this new course.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Asaf Bartov 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues in Kenya,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to let you know that (after consultation with the
>> Affiliations Committee) the Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director, Sue
>> Gardner, is not extending the Board of Trustees' provisional recognition of
>> your group as Wikimedia Kenya.  We recommend you pursue recognition as
>> Wikimedia User Group instead.
>>
>>
>>
>> The recognition was conditional upon incorporation within a year, and
>> that has not happened.  In addition, the provisional board disintegrated
>> (with some people leaving the chapter entirely) and no replacement
>> announced, almost no activity took place this past year, casting doubt on
>> the group's sustainability as a chapter, and certain personal issues added
>> much confusion and demoralization, which no doubt contributed to the
>> inactivity.
>>
>>
>>
>> In parallel, the Wikimedia movement has created new models of
>> affiliation, not available at the time your group was seeking recognition,
>> that we are confident would better serve your group at this stage, and
>> would be more appropriate, than the traditional incorporated chapter model.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Specifically, we encourage you to seek Wikimedia User Group recognition
>> (via AffCom -- e-mail aff...@lists.wikimedia.org) right now,

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Coming out and to birth!

2013-05-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, David.

You are mistaken:  We are not judging all of you, and we have not punished
anyone, not even Stephen.  What we did was demand accountability, and that
is a non-negotiable part of our movement, founded as it is on open
collaboration and transparency.  I realize it's been very demoralizing for
the rest of you; I can say I acted as soon as I knew something was wrong --
can all of you say that?  The lack of trust I referred to was what was
evident from exchanges on this list in the past few months, not from the
side of the Foundation.  I have met a lot of you in person and I do trust
you.  I will support you in any mission-aligned attempt you make --
including with funding.

You are also mistaken in still perceiving the revocation of the
_provisional_ chapter recognition as a punishment.  That was not the case
at all;  the recognition was provisional to begin with, and depended on two
things -- formal incorporation within a year, and sustained activity.  Both
of those requirements were not met, and so the provisional recognition,
which was only for one year _to begin with_, expired.  The embezzlement had
nothing to do with it.

To your question, there is nothing to appeal -- that recognition is gone.
 You can always apply for chapter status again, according to the
instructions here[1], but you would do well to begin by getting people
together and regenerating some enthusiasm to do Wikimedia work -- editing
sessions, photo walks, training sessions, etc. -- and by seeking
recognition as a Wikimedia User Group.  Do note that your group has not
been "demoted" from a chapter "to a user group" -- its recognition as an
affiliate was revoked, and the group is now simply not recognized as
affiliated at all.  To _be_ recognized as a User Group, you would need to
seek recognition according to the (much easier) process here[2].

Again, I would urge you to not worry about the status or label of the
group, but to instead focus on creating value for the mission.  Once a core
of value exists and has some community energy behind it, the rest becomes
easy.

Cheers,

Asaf

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_chapter_creation_guide
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_user_group_creation_guide


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:13 PM, David Mugo  wrote:

> Asaf,
>
> I believe that the Wikimedia Foundation did the Kenyan Wikimedians wrong
> by judging all of us based on one occurrence and purnishing everyone for
> the mistakes of a few. The zeal and energy that was there was totally
> drained and beginning lacks the power it requires.
>
> In fact, I believe it would have been best to let us do our own house
> cleaning then recommend action against any wrong doings.
>
> It is hard to begin anything with the knowledge that there is no trust
> between us and the foundation.
>
> Lastly, I would like to ask, what are the chances of appealing the
> decision by the foundation to demote us to a user group?
>
> David.
> On May 4, 2013 5:27 AM, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:
>
>> Hello, everyone.
>>
>> It is unfortunate the air is still not clear among this group.  "Sunshine
>> is the best disinfectant", said judge Brandeis.  I urge everyone to engage
>> in a frank discussion of what transpired, AND to stop dropping dark hints.
>>  Those do not help at all.
>>
>> From WMF's perspective, I should note that we have received US$596 by
>> wire back from Stephen, but that the start-up grant[1] is still not
>> resolved, and a full accounting will need to be made of all the grant funds
>> (US$7001), spent and unspent.  Such a report has still not been submitted.
>>  I would urge those of you still interested in pursuing a new beginning to
>> make an effort (I know it's unappetizing) and resolve this ASAP, so we can
>> all turn the page.
>>
>> I am still convinced much can be done in Kenya, albeit with a different
>> approach.
>>
>>Asaf
>>
>> [1]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Stephen_Wanjau_-_Wikimedians_in_Kenya/Start-up
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Andrew maina wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Wikimedians have GIRLFRIENDS! :-O No, but seriously do publish these
>>> records and out this truth.
>>> --
>>>  On Thu, May 2, 2013 7:43 AM MSKS Kosgei Isaac wrote:
>>>
>>>  >What a big shame!
>>>  >Steve we WANT the names of all those who used the money and we hold
>>> them
>>>  >responsible.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >Isaac K. Kosgei.
>>>  >Bachelor of Agribusiness Management
>>>  >+254727553981
>>>  >SkypeProfile: Kipsizoo
>>>  >http

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Coming out and to birth!

2013-05-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone.

It is unfortunate the air is still not clear among this group.  "Sunshine
is the best disinfectant", said judge Brandeis.  I urge everyone to engage
in a frank discussion of what transpired, AND to stop dropping dark hints.
 Those do not help at all.

>From WMF's perspective, I should note that we have received US$596 by wire
back from Stephen, but that the start-up grant[1] is still not resolved,
and a full accounting will need to be made of all the grant funds
(US$7001), spent and unspent.  Such a report has still not been submitted.
 I would urge those of you still interested in pursuing a new beginning to
make an effort (I know it's unappetizing) and resolve this ASAP, so we can
all turn the page.

I am still convinced much can be done in Kenya, albeit with a different
approach.

   Asaf

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Stephen_Wanjau_-_Wikimedians_in_Kenya/Start-up


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Andrew maina  wrote:

>
> Wikimedians have GIRLFRIENDS! :-O No, but seriously do publish these
> records and out this truth.
> --
>  On Thu, May 2, 2013 7:43 AM MSKS Kosgei Isaac wrote:
>
>  >What a big shame!
>  >Steve we WANT the names of all those who used the money and we hold them
>  >responsible.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >Isaac K. Kosgei.
>  >Bachelor of Agribusiness Management
>  >+254727553981
>  >SkypeProfile: Kipsizoo
>  >http://ke.linkedin.com/in/kipsizoo
>  >Twitter: @kipsizoo
>  >Blogs: www.kipsizoo.blogspot.com <http://www.kipsizoo.blogspot.com/%20>
>  > Agribusiness Blog <http://www.kipsizoo.wordpress.com/>
>  >*"My satisfaction comes from my commitment to advancing a better world" -
>  >Faye Wattleton*
>  >
>  >
>  >On 2 May 2013 04:32, stephen wanjau  wrote:
>  >
>  >> I have kissed ass for more than a year now...I am the most shaded
> African
>  >> WikipedianYes I ate the donors money as most allege and so what?
>  I
>  >> do not wish to take this with me to the grave...hate me or love me now
> as
>  >> it makes no difference... I hate all of you. At my tender age my
> parents
>  >> never knew about this white elephant.They hate me because of this
>  >> humanitarian movement that I dropped both my feet into... I paid for
> some
>  >> of your escapades with your girlfriends using the donors money. I was
> so
>  >> naive and effed up. As far as Dubai since local was too mainstream I
>  >> financed you and some of you and your girlfriends. That is for the
> inner
>  >> cycle and for some I have decided to donate the money since you
>  >> have never appraised the debts till now. I still have the statements
> till
>  >> now from equity bank and KCB bank.
>  >>
>  >> I have all the records with me.the statements, withdrawals and
>  >> everything else as shocking as the next line.
>  >>
>  >> I hate myself and I still love sharing free knowledge. It is the key to
>  >> love and live that keeps me going.
>  >>
>  >> EFF you and me.
>  >>
>  >> Yours faithfully,
>  >> Stephen
>  >>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2014: Official bid list

2013-03-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

> Such a shame and pain to us that Arusha actually bid for Wikimania 2014,
> with no Organized Chapter down there (-: and we had a very organized Chapter
>

I don't think it's a shame, and shouldn't be a pain: organizing a bid is a
lot of work, but is almost purely on-wiki, and can be done by one or two
super-motivated individuals.  That is very different from being able to
actually plan and host the event itself, which requires months of work and
more team members.

Anyhow, we should all be happy for our Tanzanian colleagues for having
found the initiative and energy to do this.  It's not a competition. :)

Like I said in my more formal letter, you must not look upon the expiration
of the provisional recognition as a blow or as a failure -- it was merely a
deadline expiring, for a formal process that doesn't actually matter as
much as it used to, because we now have these new affiliation models, which
would have been more suitable in the first place, had they existed at the
time.

So I join the others in saying: let's focus on figuring out what are the
things this group wants to do, then on the subset of them that this group
can do, and go from there.

Cheer up, folks! :)

   A.
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[Wikimedia Kenya] From chapter to user group

2013-02-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear colleagues in Kenya,

I would like to let you know that (after consultation with the Affiliations
Committee) the Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director, Sue Gardner, is not
extending the Board of Trustees' provisional recognition of your group as
Wikimedia Kenya.  We recommend you pursue recognition as Wikimedia User
Group instead.

The recognition was conditional upon incorporation within a year, and that
has not happened.  In addition, the provisional board disintegrated (with
some people leaving the chapter entirely) and no replacement announced,
almost no activity took place this past year, casting doubt on the group's
sustainability as a chapter, and certain personal issues added much
confusion and demoralization, which no doubt contributed to the inactivity.

In parallel, the Wikimedia movement has created new models of affiliation,
not available at the time your group was seeking recognition, that we are
confident would better serve your group at this stage, and would be more
appropriate, than the traditional incorporated chapter model.

Specifically, we encourage you to seek Wikimedia User Group recognition
(via AffCom -- e-mail aff...@lists.wikimedia.org) right now, which will
give you almost all the benefits of chapter recognition, with almost none
of the bureaucracy: trademark permission will be available to you, and as
you know, grants are always available, even to unincorporated groups (and
we will take steps to improve group oversight and governance to minimize
risk).  Everything I know about this group and about AffCom suggests this
should be a smooth process.

Note that this does mean that the name "Wikimedia Kenya" should no longer
be used by you or others to refer to your group, and specifically, that you
are not to incorporate under that name.  (It is best if incorporation under
any name is postponed until there's a better idea of the group's interest,
capacity, and plans.  Creating a formal entity prematurely could saddle you
with inconvenient responsibilities without any of the benefits.)

"Wikimedians in Kenya", "Friends of Wikipedia in Kenya", and any number of
other names you may feel comfortable with, are good possibilities for the
name of your group, and can be recognized by the WMF if you do choose to
pursue User Group recognition.

We'd like to stress this is neither a punishment nor a demotion of your
group; it is actually an adjustment of what we call the group to match
reality and to adhere to the original terms of the provisional recognition.
 We recognize your dedicated and valuable contributions in the past, and
look forward to renewed energy and accomplishments on this new path, as a
user group, and will be happy to support you in this in every way we can.

On behalf of Sue Gardner and the Wikimedia Foundation,

   Asaf Bartov
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Themed Monthly Meetups

2013-02-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
That's a great idea.  I volunteer to deliver some training on some on-wiki
topic, if you'd like, at one of these meetups (by Skype/Hangout).

   A.


On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Alex Wafula  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I think we really had a good thing going with  the monthly meetups. I'd
> suggest we resume with this and have every meetup geared towards aching a
> particular task eg: edits on specific topics, focus on commons etc
>
> We can have it ran by someone different every month, to make it
> participatory and exciting.
>
> Building from that, we haven't met this year so I'm usggesting a meetup
> for the 15th of Feb. Any takers...?
>
> Alex
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Response to Bence

2013-02-05 Thread Asaf Bartov
No :)

It's still a manual thing and I had to manually create his graph.  WMF
engineering is actively preparing a faster and friendlier version of this,
that would also come with pre-generated graphs per country etc.

   A.


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:34 AM, rupert THURNER wrote:

> hi asaf,
>
> this does not work for all regions? tried
> http://global-dev.wmflabs.org/graphs/enwp_gh_active
>
> rupert.
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> > Hi, everyone.
> >
> > To my mind, the way forward is to find a project at least some of you are
> > excited about, rather than make progress on the formalities.  That
> project
> > can be anything at all -- organizing a regular meetup or edit-a-thon, a
> > photowalk, finishing the school curriculum update project so we can
> produce
> > a new offline Wikipedia file relevant for Kenya, etc.
> >
> > It seems to me that there is no substitute for a core of _active
> editors_,
> > on either English[1] or Swahili Wikipedia[1]. That core would be the
> basis
> > for most of the other activities.  For example, it's difficult to have
> > effective mass outreach if we can't connect newbies to _local_ editors
> with
> > at least some experience and interest in tutoring and supporting them on
> > their first steps, especially on the English Wikipedia which has very
> high
> > standards that are challenging and confusing to newbies.
> >
> > So of the activities above, I would recommend thinking about ways to get
> > _you_, the core volunteers, more motivated about, or more _comfortable_
> > with, actual editing.  A first step would be to identify what is the main
> > obstacle -- know-how, interesting topics to contribute on, access to
> source
> > material, etc., and then we can all think about how to remove that
> obstacle.
> >
> > Another fun thing to try, if you can have meetups somewhere with
> reasonable
> > bandwidth (on campus? at the iHub?), you can schedule a Skype/Hangout
> with
> > different communities/chapters around to world to exchange experience and
> > learn about exciting ideas from other groups.  In my experience, it's a
> fun
> > and interesting way to get [re-]motivated, and I'm sure a number of our
> > international colleagues would be happy to be the teleconferenced guests
> at
> > those meetings.
> >
> > Just my two cents. :)
> >
> >Asaf
> >
> > [1] English Wikipedia has about 35 active editors (5 edits a month or
> more)
> > in Kenya.  That's a good number to work with, but it seems to me (do
> correct
> > me if I'm wrong) that most of those regular editors are outside this
> mailing
> > list.  If we could actually be reasonable certain we have some of those
> > active editors interested in supporting additional editor recruitment,
> we'd
> > be in good shape.  Source:
> > http://global-dev.wmflabs.org/graphs/enwp_ke_active  (very slow load,
> sorry)
> > [2] Swahil Wikipedia has about 3-4 active editors (5 edits a month or
> more)
> > in Kenya, and about the same number in Tanzania.  Source:
> > http://global-dev.wmflabs.org/graphs/swwp_active (again, very slow)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Bence,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your efforts and conecrns about the Chapter. Indeed we have
> >> heard some concerted efforts to  resuscitate the chapter and although
> not
> >> much has come out of the meetings, we all are commited to saving the
> face
> >> and rescuing of the once vibrant Chapter.
> >>
> >> We are still trying to figure out the best way . Perhaps restarting the
> >> whole membership thing has been mooted but nothing has come out yet.
> Would
> >> be best if we reassign new roles and ownershipsamongs ourselves to
> restart
> >> it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Bence Damokos 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi guys,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry to bring up again, but it would be useful to know what others
> (e.g.
> >>> Alex, Limoke, etc) think about the future of the chapter?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Bence
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Bence Damokos 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Abbas,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for responding. For the record, Limoke also responded quite
> >>>

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Response to Bence

2013-02-04 Thread Asaf Bartov
tus.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Abbas.
>>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WiR at the Kenya National Archives

2012-12-31 Thread Asaf Bartov
I'm glad to hear about the interest from the national archives, and
congratulate Abbas on his efforts bearing fruit.  Do I understand correctly
that Abbas intends to fill that role himself?

A word of advice: please make sure you don't commit prematurely to
something you might not be able to keep.  E.g. if the plan relies on WMF
funding, it is certainly too early to sign anything, before the plan was
reviewed by the GAC and WMF and a grant was approved.  I should point out
in advance that we generally consider WiR's salaries to be the
responsibility of the host institution, as we think the bigger benefit
accrues to it.  Nevertheless, context matters, of course, and this is not a
"no", to be sure.

Cheers,

   Asaf



On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

> Some good news there to seal the otherwise dark year for WMKE . Wish you
> all the best Abbas and hope we can mutually find areas to collaborate (as
> WMKE)
>
> Best and happy New year to all
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Abbas Mahmood wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> After several months of negotiation, I am *almost *sealing a GLAM deal
>> with the Kenya National Archives. I'm getting the necessary paperwork done,
>> and hopefully, by January 2013, I'll have gotten the final go-ahead. So,
>> I'm guesstimating that this project may start on Feb 2013.
>>
>> The Archives has made it very clear (from the start) that it doesn't have
>> the resources to undertake this project, so I hope that I'll manage to
>> secure a grant from the WMF to fund the Wikipedian in Residence's
>> compensation and all other associated costs. I've started making a draft
>> application here:
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Abbas_Mahmood/Wikipedian_in_Residence_at_the_Kenya_National_Archives.
>> I'm also planning on contacting WikiAfrica to 1) learn more from their GLAM
>> projects that they've been undertaking, 2) inquire about how much it
>> usually costs them, and 3) the challenges that they usually face.
>>
>> This is *NOT* a public service announcement: this is just a courtesy
>> FYI, so please do NOT distribute this news until everything is official.
>>
>> Thanks, and happy holidays :-)
>>
>> Abbas.
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] State of the Chapter

2012-11-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Oliver Stegen wrote:

> ** ** **
>
> Politically a good idea but please remember that wikipedia is not
> wikinews. News articles trying to keep track of the elections will in all
> probability be deleted by the administrators.
>

That's right.  A better approach would be to improve coverage of _topics_,
e.g. [[Education in Kenya]], [[Economy of Kenya]], and whatever happens to
be hot topics in this coming election season, as well as articles about the
most prominent politicians involved, i.e. covering their _record_, relying
on external sources, and being very careful not to interject your own
opinion.

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] State of the Chapter

2012-11-20 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thanks for restarting the conversation, David.

I'd like to encourage you all to think about what you would _like_ to do.
 What is the one activity you would be inspired by and proud to take part
in?  Once we hear where your energy leans, we can work together to make it
happen.

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> Guys,
>
> I have been silent watching in hope that someone will come up and say
> something about the state of the Kenyan chapter. While we decided to
> disband the board, we did not agree to kill the chapter. We have a lot of
> things to achieve and we need to bring back the fire that was the Kenyan
> chapter.
>
> I would like to suggest a meetup to discuss the way forward, who is with
> me and what is the best day to get this up?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup

2012-10-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
 from being judgmental , Steve, there is no justification for your
> actions whatsoever ,BUT  your admission is a step in the right direction ,
> We have learned our lesson albeit with a painful experience ,its a learning
> process & WMKE will emerge stronger .
>   I want to believe that if we had the structures in place ,the
> unfortunate incident will not have occurred ,i call upon WMKE members to
> rededicate themselves to the activities of this young chapter , to the
> board,registration  of WMKE is long overdue ,an audit of the expenditure is
> required & finally the issue of joint account .
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Financial Status

2012-10-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you, Alex, for disclosing the matter to the general membership.

As Alex wrote, WMF is requiring WMKE to return all the remaining grant
funds for safekeeping, until WMKE gets its financial controls in place: an
audit of all the expenditure so far out of the grant money, beyond the
money misappropriated by Stephen; a dedicated, joint bank account with at
least two board members as signatories; replacement board members
(naturally, we expect Stephen not to be re-elected); and a functioning
audit committee.

This is indeed a disappointing development, and no doubt a demoralizing
one.  Nevertheless, WMKE can and should take this as a challenge -- a form
of growing pains -- and come out stronger and more mature.  I'd recommend
the general membership do whatever it takes (probably a face-to-face
meeting?) to work this out and bury the hatchet, so that we can all move on
and get back to promoting the Wikimedia Vision in Kenya.

Best regards,

   Asaf

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Kosgei Isaac  wrote:

> Thanks Alex,
> We always had this suspicion and it has really affected the chapter.
> I am not sure what the next step is and what action the board and the
> foundation will take regarding this so that it will serve as an example to
> others.
> Secondly we NEED an audit of all the funds because I personally had doubts
> with most of the expenses.
> Hope this gets sorted soon.
> Thanks
> On Oct 3, 2012 7:10 PM, "Alex Wafula"  wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> As most of you already know, we have had concerns raised over our
>> finances surrounding suspicions of embezzlement of funds by our treasurer.
>> I am sad to confirm these suspicions. Stephen Wanjau, the treasurer has
>> come forward and admitted to the Board that he has used part of the funds
>> for personal non-chapter expenses amounting to approximately USD. 800 and
>> resigned from the Board effective immediately.
>>
>> We will now move to wire back the remaining funds to WMF for keeping
>> until we have our own bank account and more than one signatory for the
>> same. As for the embezzled funds, it will be Stephen's responsibility to
>> return the amount.
>>
>> This is a major setback for the Chapter having had so many plans that got
>> sidelined over confrontations to get the issue resolved. It is my hope that
>> we will mobilize through this trying time and come out better and more
>> accountable. I would also like to take this opportunity to thanks Asaf for
>> his support in this matter.
>>
>> On Behalf of the Board,
>> Alex Wafula
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As many know, in Wikimedia Spain we are dealing with a very nasty
>> business.
>>
>> While we were preparing our financial report we caught our former
>> secretary stealing money from our chapter.
>>
>> The stolen amount is in the vicinity of 2500 euros. He even left a debt
>> of ~100 euros that I have personally covered. It may not seem much, but it
>> was all we had.
>>
>> The former secretary never gave access to the new treasurer, he just
>> made it look like the bank was delaying the process of the change of
>> treasurers.
>>
>> He also sent us falsified extracts of the account and the amount of money
>> in it.
>>
>> We were so concerned with the behaviour of the bank that we were about
>> to change to another one. And then we received a call from the banksaying 
>> our account was in debt.
>>
>> When confronted, the former secretary confessed. All the data are clear,
>> for the bank's official reports are avaliable now.
>>
>> Also, with the gently support of the WMF, in the persons of Asaf,
>> Garfield and Jay, we have already start all the legal actions needed
>> according to Spanish law, including formal complaint to the Police and
>> all the papers with the Bank. We have prepared an official statement
>> too, "just in case" any spanish media want to discuss the case.
>>
>> This has been a huge blow for us, as you can imagine. Fortunately, it has
>> been only one person and the rest of the members of WMES are now trying to
>> re-boost our chapter. Of course, by september will be a General Assembly,
>> for all the Board have resign with the aim to lead a transparent process.
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WLM 2012

2012-09-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
>>>>> explain how to do something. However, the work will still lie
>> >>>>>>> with you.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Best, Lodewijk
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 2012/9/9 Stephen 
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi all!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The plans to participate in the aforementioned subject had
>> >>>>>>>> already started with the preparation of a planning page
>> >>>>>>>> [1]. There have been
>> >>>>> some
>> >>>>>>>> volunteers who have shown interest by signing up as willing
>> >>>>>>>> to help or participate in WLM 2012 [2]. I have responded to
>> >>>>>>>> some private E-mails
>> >>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> willing participants and I expect the enquiries to
>> >>>>>>>> increase. I
>> >>>>> therefore
>> >>>>>>>> welcome more Wikimedians to assist me with that by probably
>> >>>>>>>> adding the email me in their commons usernames like I have
>> >>>>>>>> done on mine.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ./Stephen.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 1.
>> >>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_**
>> >>>>>>>> Monuments_2012_in_Kenya<
>> >>>>>
>> >>
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Kenya
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>> 2. http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_**
>> >>>>>>>> Monuments_2012_in_Kenya#Get_**involved.21<
>> >>>>>
>> >>
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Kenya#Get_involved.21
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>> __**_
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>> >>>>>>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] List adminship

2012-09-05 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent!  I've made Alex and Bruce co-admins.  I'll stay a backup admin
for a while, in case I'm needed.

Cheers,

   Asaf

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[Wikimedia Kenya] List adminship

2012-09-04 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, folks.

Since the list was getting spammed and in need of admin attention, and as
the previous admin (Abbas) has left the chapter, I think it is time to
appoint one or two new admins, preferably from the chapter.

I have requested to be made admin of the list to stop the spam (should be
fine now, let me know if any spam makes it through!), but now that I have,
I'd like to pass the baton back to one of you.

Does anyone here feel they can take over administering this list (using the
Mailman Web interface)?  Please only volunteer if you know what you're
doing. :)

Cheers,

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] (no subject)

2012-08-31 Thread Asaf Bartov
The list is being spammed.

Who is the list administrator?  Abbas, is it still you?  If so, it is
probably time for someone else to take over.

   Asaf

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote:

> ** ** **
>
> Dear all,
>
> ** **
>
> I very much hope that this isn’t the last word. I continue to trust in the
> maturity of all elected WMKE leaders, i.e. in your ability to resolve any
> problems with respect and good judgment.
>
> ** **
>
> Further, I am deeply saddened by the trend of resigning when the going
> gets tough. That is not what I expect from Wikimedia members who are part
> of a volunteer organisation aiming for the common educational good of all
> humankind. Please return to our responsibility of making our world a better
> place, and stop this disintegration of our chapter. Thanks.
>
> ** **
>
> Waswahili wanavyosema: Umoja ni nguvu!
>

I can only second Oliver's wise words.  By all means, everyone's concerns
must be addressed and resolved, but let's keep our cool until they are,
shall we?

Also, please do not hesitate to let me know, on- or off-list, if there's
anything you think I can do to help.

Cheers,

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Finances

2012-08-24 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear WMKE colleagues,

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Indeed, David's suggestion is good.
>
> Also, just to address Isaac's comment: _certainly_ Steve and all other
> office holders are primarily answerable to the board, and to the members.
>  WMF is a side entity here, and the only reason I have requested and
> received the tracking sheet is that I was told the Saturday meeting
> "exploded" without actually finishing the review.
>
> I do hope WMKE can resolve this on its own, and am confident it can.
>

It's been two weeks, and I have not heard anything further.  Has this been
resolved yet?  Is there progress with setting up a dedicated joint account,
for the interim until WMKE is fully incorporated?

Thanks,

   Asaf
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[Wikimedia Kenya] A Participation Support request from Abbas

2012-08-22 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear WMKE colleagues,

This is a courtesy notice, per the Participation Support policy[1],
notifying the Wikimedia Kenya chapter of a request[2] made to the program
by Abbas Mahmoud to attend the OKFestival in Helsinki.  *If* you have a
position on this request, individual or as a group (i.e. a board position)
you are welcome to express it on the talk page.

Cheers,

   Asaf

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Support#Additional_notes
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Abbasjnr/OKFestival

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Finances

2012-08-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
Indeed, David's suggestion is good.

Also, just to address Isaac's comment: _certainly_ Steve and all other
office holders are primarily answerable to the board, and to the members.
 WMF is a side entity here, and the only reason I have requested and
received the tracking sheet is that I was told the Saturday meeting
"exploded" without actually finishing the review.

I do hope WMKE can resolve this on its own, and am confident it can.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Oliver Stegen wrote:

> ** ** **
>
> +1
>
> ** **
>
> What our chair has (repeatedly) suggested is common procedure in other
> organisations registered in Kenya. So, let’s go forward with his suggestion!
> 
>
> (Incidentally, this requires the establishment of an audit committee – or
> have I missed that happening already?)
>
> ** **
>
> BT
>
> ** **
>   --
>
> *From:* David Mugo [mailto:raidar...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 10 August 2012 09:16
> *To:* **The discussion list for the Wikimedia Kenya chapter.**
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Finances
>
> ** **
>
> Guys,
>
> Like I said before you guys all decided not to listen to me, this is a
> responsibility of the board, Steve is a member of the board and his actions
> directly reflect on the board. I am not for the idea of solving issues with
> meetings where members want to fight. That is not how things run.
>
> My suggestion is that Steve should answer to the board on all
> transactions, then the board can answer the the audit committee who should
> take up concerns from the members. In the event that his response is not
> satisfactory or requires action, the said action can be decided either by
> the rest of the board or the entire team.
>
> I am one person who is really getting tired of the push and pull in this
> issue.
>
> PS. No one write me a personal email on this anymore, if you have anything
> to say, I stand by what i have mentioned in this email, post it to the
> mailing list.
>
> David.
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Kosgei Isaac 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Asaf,
> I think Steve should convince the board and WMKE members about the
> expenditure first before he does that to you.
> I hope that the WMKE chairperson will convene a meeting soon (If possible
> within 3 weeks) so that we can have the issue sorted and the remaining
> amount transferred to a joint account.
> I also hope that this meeting (when convened) will run smoothly.
>
> Best Isaac
>
> 
>
> On 9 August 2012 00:59, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
>   Dear WMKE colleagues,
>
> ** **
>
> Following the recent conversations around finances, I wanted to make a few
> comments, hoping the uncertainty can be resolved:
>
> ** **
>
> 1. We acknowledge it is an unfortunate situation where chapter funds are
> in anyone's personal bank account.  In hindsight, WMF should have insisted
> a separate bank account be created to wire the money, even if not yet the
> official WMKE bank account.
>
> ** **
>
> 1b. Now that that's done, we should seek to transfer the remaining grant
> funds to a dedicated account as soon as possible: either the WMKE account
> (if incorporation and the subsequent creation of the bank account seem
> around the corner -- any updates?), or an interim, joint-ownership
> dedicated account, with access to _at least_ two board members (one of whom
> would be the treasurer, of course).  It would be good if the WMKE board can
> decide to pursue that course of action.
>
> ** **
>
> 2. The current treasurer has sent me his tracking sheet of the grant
> funds, and it generally looks in good order.  I hope the board has a copy
> too and can review as well.
>
> ** **
>
> 3. The treasurer did confirm he has made some decisions to spend money
> (for chapter business) on his own, without board approval, citing previous
> experience with sending messages to the list and receiving no response for
> days.  This is _not okay_.  The way to fix this, now, is for the board to
> review all those spending decisions and _retroactively_ approve them
> (unless there's genuine concern about the expense).  If there are expenses
> the board does not approve _per se_ (i.e. on material rather than
> procedural grounds), the treasurer will have to return those funds to the
> chapter.
>
> ** **
>
> 3b. The board would do well to discuss and establish a clear procedure for
> authorizing expenses.  "When it's everybody's job it's nobody's job."  Once
> a procedure is adopted, the board members should _commit to following_ that
> procedure, as it 

[Wikimedia Kenya] Finances

2012-08-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear WMKE colleagues,

Following the recent conversations around finances, I wanted to make a few
comments, hoping the uncertainty can be resolved:

1. We acknowledge it is an unfortunate situation where chapter funds are in
anyone's personal bank account.  In hindsight, WMF should have insisted a
separate bank account be created to wire the money, even if not yet the
official WMKE bank account.

1b. Now that that's done, we should seek to transfer the remaining grant
funds to a dedicated account as soon as possible: either the WMKE account
(if incorporation and the subsequent creation of the bank account seem
around the corner -- any updates?), or an interim, joint-ownership
dedicated account, with access to _at least_ two board members (one of whom
would be the treasurer, of course).  It would be good if the WMKE board can
decide to pursue that course of action.

2. The current treasurer has sent me his tracking sheet of the grant funds,
and it generally looks in good order.  I hope the board has a copy too and
can review as well.

3. The treasurer did confirm he has made some decisions to spend money (for
chapter business) on his own, without board approval, citing previous
experience with sending messages to the list and receiving no response for
days.  This is _not okay_.  The way to fix this, now, is for the board to
review all those spending decisions and _retroactively_ approve them
(unless there's genuine concern about the expense).  If there are expenses
the board does not approve _per se_ (i.e. on material rather than
procedural grounds), the treasurer will have to return those funds to the
chapter.

3b. The board would do well to discuss and establish a clear procedure for
authorizing expenses.  "When it's everybody's job it's nobody's job."  Once
a procedure is adopted, the board members should _commit to following_ that
procedure, as it would be unfair to the treasurer (already doing much
unenviable work for the rest of us) to leave his requests hanging.

4. I have no reason to think the current treasurer has otherwise mishandled
funds.  Unless anyone has material proof to the contrary, we shall assume
good faith, and once funds are transferred to a separate account, a full
audit by the board can confirm this to everyone's satisfaction.

5. I understood there have been some payments to chapter members for
expenses incurred, that have been issued on the understanding receipts will
be furnished, but the treasurer is still awaiting receipts from several
members.  That, too, is _not okay_.  Please submit your receipts to the
treasurer as soon as possible.  If you ever received a reimbursement from
the treasurer and you're not sure whether or not you owe any receipts,
please contact the treasurer privately to make sure.

6. I also understand there is some confusion about per diem allowances and
receipts:  the usual way per diems work is that the rate is determined by
the board (You can use the WMF travel policy[1] if it helps), and then
money is disbursed according to the number of days (deducting appropriate
amounts when meals are provided, as in the case of lunches in Berlin and at
Wikimania), but _no receipts_ are required.  This as distinct from other
expenses, which do require receipts.  The rationale for this flexibility is
that on the one hand there are all kinds of small unforeseen expenses,
including (in some places) expenses that don't issue receipts (like the
matatu :)), that are not specifically budgeted for in the per diem, and on
the other hand the allowance is enough to cover them, without requiring
minute record-keeping.  This is easier for both sides, and is based on
trust and good judgment.  But that's just the usual way, and it's fine if
WMKE chooses to commit to providing receipts for per diems as well.

I hope this helps WMKE move forward toward incorporation and program
activity with clarity and confidence.

As always, please let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

Cheers,

   Asaf

[1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Travel_policy -- specifically,
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya News Agency archive

2012-08-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:

>  One point I'd like to highlight is that we should be quick to offer mass
> volunteer effort _for the commercial repository_.
>
> Indeed. Right now, it is not yet clear if we'll need more manpower, but
> yes, I'll definitely consider calling in more volunteers as and when needed.
>

Er, as the rest of my message hopefully made clear, there was a tragically
missing "not" after "should" in my comment above... :)

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Offline Wikipedia: Kenyan Curriculum

2012-08-07 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, Stephen and everyone.

Hello!
> Emmanuel requested for an online meet - up via free node tomorrow so that
> we can discuss the way forward with the offline content development. Time
> is 7pm GMT (900pm Local time)
> Go to: webchat.freenode.net
> Channel: #kiwix


Is there a log or minutes of that meeting?  What was agreed?

I think the idea in collecting the "diff" against the UK version was not
that those articles will be added to _an existing ZIM file_, but that a
_new ZIM file_ will be generated (as Emmanuel notes, it's the only way),
based on the UK _list_ plus (i.e. union-with) your list.

   Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya News Agency archive

2012-08-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Stephen Wanjau 
 wrote:

> Thats tremendous progress Abbas!
>

Yes, thanks, Abbas, for this report, and I applaud your decision to share
it in this manner with the WMKE membership!

One point I'd like to highlight is that we should be quick to offer mass
volunteer effort _for the commercial repository_.  We should generally
stand for the principle of "cultural artifacts created with public funds
should belong (and be made accessible) to the public", and (at least
somewhat) resist the commercialization of these old photos.  We should also
remind everyone that at least the pre-colonial ones are no doubt out of
copyright and _do_ in fact belong to the public.

Of course, if it's either a commercial repository or no digitization at
all, it's certainly better to have a commercial repository, to at least
ensure the survival of this material given the deterioration of the
physical sources.  But it is not in our interests to provide free labor to
commercial enterprises.

One way to go about it would be to do our best with the "small subset" of
images that would be donated to Wikimedia, per Stephen's excellent
suggestions quoted below.  After a while, we could present glowing results
with the small subset -- improved metadata, dating, setting in context,
etc., -- and contrast them with the inert digital objects in the commercial
repository.  Perhaps that would make our point and convince decision-makers
to free up additional content.

Cheers,

   Asaf


> Some things we can do in return as Wikimedia volunteers:
>
> *Perform digital image restorations for free.
>
> *DYK's (Did You Knows) are also a good way on Wiki to tell the world
> of that unique piece of photo we have in Kenya.
>
> *Write articles around the media files /photos
>
> *Almost certain(since I can't speak on behalf) that the Foundation
> shall put up a blog entry highlighting the donations.
>
> *And the recent punchline by the US Archivist ,David Ferriero;
>
> : "If Wikipedia is good enough for the Archivist of the United States,
> maybe it should be good enough for you."
>
> Twende mbele.
>
> //Stephen.


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya News Agency archive

2012-07-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I am part of a working group involved
> in the digitization of the Kenya News Agency archives. The KNA was
> established in 1943, and is a photographic library that was used in the
> past decades by journalists to document various pre-colonial events such as
> the MauMau struggle. They have lots of content that are a national
> treasure, yet most of their photos are stored in metallic cabinets at Jogoo
> House, due to budgetary constraints.
>
> The KNA would therefore like to digitize its content so as to increase
> access and has started up a small working group to figure out the best
> way(s) to go about this.
>
> I'll update you guys with more info about the digitization after we have
> our first meeting.
>

Sounds excellent, Abbas.

I hope you mention this on the cultural partners list as well, to get the
benefit of int'l experience as well.

Cheers,

   Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Offline Wikipedia: Kenyan Curriculum

2012-07-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
out laptop chargers not charges .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Grace Kariuki <
>>>>>> gkariuk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> sorry, i meant charges?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Grace Kariuki <
>>>>>> gkariuk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> steve,how much are the chareges?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:59 PM, stephen wanjau
>>>>>> >>>  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hello Folks,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hope you are doing great and bracing yourselves for this
>>>>>> Saturday's
>>>>>> >>>> edittathon that shall evolve around but not limited to the
>>>>>> subject of
>>>>>> >>>> this Email.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> We shall cover the remaining bit of the Kenyan syllabus as a
>>>>>> basic intro
>>>>>> >>>> to Wiki and later on do more editing on Wikipedia.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> My proposal is we could as well engage in the April Wikification
>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>> >>>> (see [1] below) but of course not limit ourselves to that as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The venue of the Meet up is at the environs of Upper-hill in
>>>>>> Nairobi at
>>>>>> >>>> Mugo's place which is near the public Service Club.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> For those who do not know how to get there please contact me
>>>>>> off-list
>>>>>> >>>> for prior arrangements on how to get there.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The edittathon starts at 600PM local time and runs through the
>>>>>> Night
>>>>>> >>>> till Sunday Morning.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>   What to Bring:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> 1. Laptops plus the chargers of course;)
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> See you soon.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> PS: There is an experienced Wikipedian who is in the country on
>>>>>> a short
>>>>>> >>>> private visit and he tells me that he would like to be part of
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> >>>> edittathon on 21st and to meet other awesome Wikipedians.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> //Stephen
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> 1.
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stephenwanjau#Invitation_to_the_April_Wikification_Drive
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Chris Riwa <
>>>>>> chriwaus...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Hi steve, I gave the syllabus copies to Dennis during our last
>>>>>> meet-up.
>>>>>> >>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Branton Obwari <
>>>>>> bruceobw...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Steve , i agree with you >we don't need a separate meeting to
>>>>>> do that
>>>>>> >>>>>> ,for starters like ME ,we need the 10minutes 'how to'

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Offline Wikipedia: Kenyan Curriculum

2012-06-05 Thread Asaf Bartov
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stephenwanjau#Invitation_to_the_April_Wikification_Drive
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Chris Riwa 
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Hi steve, I gave the syllabus copies to Dennis during our last
>>> meet-up.
>>> >>>>> Regards,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Branton Obwari <
>>> bruceobw...@gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Steve , i agree with you >we don't need a separate meeting to do
>>> that
>>> >>>>>> ,for starters like ME ,we need the 10minutes 'how to' demo ,so
>>> can we
>>> >>>>>> do it right here?, Chris has a copy of it, i can catch up with
>>> him.
>>> >>>>>> Otherwise am
>>> glad
>>> >>>>>> you are back & i love the positive energy you inject into WMKE.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> My regards!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>Branton.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 4/7/12, stephen wanjau  wrote:
>>> >>>>>> > Hi Folks,
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > I understand that the syllabus compilation was procrastinated to
>>> >>>>>> > 21st
>>> >>>>>> > of March 2012 for reasons I don't know.
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > However,  I have a concern about this. The 'how-to' of this
>>> process
>>> >>>>>> > is
>>> >>>>>> > such a cinch and having a separate meeting to learn how to
>>> compile
>>> >>>>>> > it
>>> >>>>>> > on Meta sounds ridiculous.
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > I remember it took me 10minutes to give a demo to Dennis on how
>>> to
>>> >>>>>> > do
>>> >>>>>> > this. (Dennis correct me if wrong).
>>> >>>>>> > Folks it is wise to maximise on the time that we usually meet in
>>> >>>>>> > covering/discussing all of our projects since we do not have F2F
>>> >>>>>> > meetups that often and they are expensive in terms of resources
>>> that
>>> >>>>>> > volunteers put into attending these meetings. (sad truth!)
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > Without much ado, I would like to get my hands on the syllabus.
>>> The
>>> >>>>>> > last time I checked, Chris had the copy.
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > Is he the one who still has it?
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > //Stephen.
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > On 3/26/12, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>>> >>>>>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM, stephen wanjau
>>> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> Hello Folks,
>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> I have finally secured a copy of the Geography Syllabus that
>>> was
>>> >>>>>> >>> still
>>> >>>>>> >>> lacking.
>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> It is a 130 page document and I will talk to the owner to
>>> allow me
>>> >>>>>> >>> have
>>> >>>>>> >>> it
>>> >>>>>> >>> until next week
>>> >>>>>> >>> hoping that you will find time to work on it on 31st after the
>>> >>>>>> >>> board
>>> >>>>>> >>> elections.
>>> >>>>>> >>> It 

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Offline Wikipedia: Kenyan Curriculum

2012-03-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM, stephen wanjau wrote:

> Hello Folks,
>
> I have finally secured a copy of the Geography Syllabus that was still
> lacking.
>
> It is a 130 page document and I will talk to the owner to allow me have it
> until next week
> hoping that you will find time to work on it on 31st after the board
> elections.
> It is so detailed and that's why it is at 130 pages otherwise it should
> take around 2hours to
> have the list on meta once apportioned among the attendees.
>

Excellent!  If need be, you might perhaps spend some chapter money on
photocopying the whole thing.

Would this conclude the preparation of the Kenyan Curriculum topic list,
allowing to move forward with preparing a new ZIM file?

Thanks for pursuing this!

Cheers,

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[Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments - will your country participate?

2012-03-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi.

Just in case it has not been discussed here yet: Is anyone in Wikimedia
Kenya interested in undertaking the coordination work to make this happen
in Kenya too?

   Asaf

-- Forwarded message --
From: Lodewijk 
Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM
Subject: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments - will your country participate?
To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)"



Hi all,
we're well on our way getting started with Wiki Loves Monuments 2012! (feel
free to forward)

For those that don't know what Wiki Loves Monuments is all about, please
read this blog post [
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/02/165000-photos-submitted-during-second-annual-wiki-love-monuments-photography-contest/]
on the WMF blog and this page about how the concept works [
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Documentation#Concept];
here's also a small introduction to the main idea of the contest and what's
awaiting us this year.

*== Wiki Loves Monuments in a nutshell ==*
The photo competition around physical cultural heritage (buildings,
bridges, etc.) is running in  September, organized in numerous countries
around the world. The contest is being organized in each country
separately, allowing to play to the local needs and wishes, but is joined
by an umbrella contest for the whole world making it all a bit more
exciting. Last year the contest was organized in 18 countries, and brought
in 165.000 images by 5000 uploaders. More importantly, 4000 of these
uploaders never uploaded anything before!

*== Is your country participating? Helping hands are needed! ==*
For 2012 already 24 countries [
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Participating_countries]
indicated that they will definitely participate, and 16 more say they
possibly will participate. Please take a look at the list, and see whether
your country is already there. If you would like to help organize this
contest in your country, please join the team that signed up for it (often
through a chapter or a local group) or start your own organizing group if
there is none yet! Interested countries for example include India, United
States, Chile, Sweden and Italy.

*== So, why would you want to organize a WLM in your country? ==*
Well, of course there are the images – it is great to have good images
available of your country. But more importantly perhaps is the amount of
individuals that might participate! Hundreds, maybe thousands of people who
never contributed before can now help out with what they are best at:
making photos. They often find it fun, and might hang around a bit longer
if we receive them well. It also is a good opportunity to get in touch with
local cultural heritage institutions.

Finally, it is a good way to try and forge a local community to organize
events together. It is an existing framework you can use, and although
there are no guarantees, working in an international context like this (the
largest collaboration between chapters and other Wikimedia organizations so
far!) helps a lot to keep people motivated and close to each other. An
international group will be helping interested groups with the basic
infrastructure and other things, and on a national level, you can focus on
the organizing of your own contest, lists and communications.

*== Join the team and get started! ==*
If you want to know more, feel free to leave a message[
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012]
or send us an email. But make sure to get started now if you're interested
- because some parts of the work just require quite some time since
external parties are involved. We would be delighted to help you out in any
way possible to pull off this event.

Best,
Lodewijk
(on behalf of the international coordinating team)


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Ihub call for Organized group meetups

2012-03-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
Fantastic news!  A regular venue is a big step forward.  Congrats, WMKE! :)

   A.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:33 AM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> iHub has confirmed that they are willing to give us some space every last
> Saturday of the month, starting this month on 31 March 2011.
>
> --Abbas.
>
>
> --
> From: hf...@ushahidi.com
> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:11:36 -0800
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Ihub call for Organized group meetups
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:
>
> Thanks Heather,
>
> yes sure you can help us by pushing up for our group to get a spot.
> Your Ushahidi badge should come in handy :-)
>
>
> Yes! I will add my voice :)
>
>
> Nice to hear from you again. So how is the research going?
>
>
> Well, thanks, Oscar. Should be publishing the first results pretty soon.
> Will definitely post here when I do.
>
> Best,
> Heather.
>
>
>
>
> On 2/7/12, Heather Ford  wrote:
>
> This is wonderful! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help this
>
> along too :)
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Alex,
>
>
> Please follow it up. I hear iHub may grant permanent corners to such
>
> groups at their space which will really be a good thing if we get one,
>
> at-least we will have an "office"
>
> keep us posted
>
>
>
> On 2/7/12, Alex Wafula  wrote:
>
> I'm on it. One of the managers
>
> of the space had mentioned this; meeting up with him sometime this week.
>
> I'll be looking into getting a permanent date for meetups at the space
>
> (once a month).
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> So i just stumbled on this and am traveeling so couldnt wait to share
>
> it. I think we need to be a part of it. so who is going to follow it
>
> up?
>
> www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/02/call-for-ihub-user-groups-and-meetups/
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Coast Outreach Updates

2012-03-07 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

>
> So we had a great and eventful outreach in Mombasa over the weekend where
> we met with guys from Mombasa IT society.
>

Thanks for this preliminary report, Oscar and team.  Sounds great!  I look
forward to reading more about it.

I really enjoyed my all-too-brief visit to Mombasa in August, and remember
good (but shy) audiences turning up. :)

Cheers,

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Egerton University

2012-03-07 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:28 AM, stephen wanjau  wrote:

> I have not yet confirmed my personal attendance of this event but I will
> do so by Thursday evening.
>
> So far two people have confirmed their attendance of this event.
>

So who are the folks delivering the talk?

Thanks,

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Photo Walk

2012-02-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent, thanks!

   A.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM, stephen wanjau wrote:

> Asaf, this fee is a legal fee. In fact other photo journalists pay for
> this and an official receipt from the City Council of Nairobi is issued.
>
> The KES 2600 caters for a permit to take photos within the council's
> municipality for a day.
>
> When we went there (with Oscar) we were told to pay the fee. We were
> hesitant to just pay and we explained the uniqueness and non-commercial
> nature of our undertaking. Since the boss who could give us a waiver was
> out on a meeting. The receptionist adviced that we write an official letter
> explaining the purpose of our photo walk and request for a waiver thereof.
>
> The results of our request shall be out on Monday or Tuesday.
>
> If we get a total waiver well and good and that's what we are hoping for.
>
> //Stephen
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2012 11:47 AM, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:
>
>> Is this 2600 fee something official?  Will you be getting a receipt?  If
>> so, it's fine to pay it.  If it really is a bribe, we cannot cooperate with
>> it; supporting corruption is not a legitimate use of our donor funds.
>>
>>A.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, stephen wanjau wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Nice people,
>>>
>>> Asaf, I sought some advice from a local lawyer and he adviced me it
>>> would be wise to notify the authorites of our undertaking considering the
>>> security status of our country courtesy of the invasion into Somalia. The
>>> Alshabab have been threatening to bomb the city and since we are a group of
>>> youths who shall be taking photos we might be mistaken to be counterparts
>>> of the Alshabab looking for the best buildings to attack.
>>>
>>> We sought advice from the OCPD Central police station today and the
>>> Urban Development Department at the city council of Nairobi.
>>>
>>> At the city Council of Nairobi, they advised that we are supposed to pay
>>> a fee of KES2,600. We talked to them and they told us to write a letter to
>>> request for a partial or full waiver since ours was not a commercial
>>> undertaking.
>>>
>>> As for the OCPD, he turned us down and he told us that he was too busy
>>> to handle our case ;( Planning to go and see him sometime this week or
>>> early next week.
>>>
>>> The project is still on as scheduled for 25th February, am just working
>>> to ensure everyone is safe and not harassed by the City Council Askaris
>>> [1]  and the Regular police as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> //Stephen
>>>
>>> 1. City council, a den of 
>>> corruption.<http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=250446&cid=159&story=Why%20City%20Council%20court%20is%20a%20den%20of%20corruption>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>>>
>>>> What exactly did this photographer say you need a press card for?  I.e.
>>>> what are you not allowed to photograph without a press card?
>>>>
>>>> (In general, my experience shows that most people, including government
>>>> officials and professional photographers, have a fairly hazy knowledge of
>>>> copyright law, and often repeat "conventional wisdom" statements without
>>>> scrutiny.  One of the things Wikimedians have been consistently good at,
>>>> around the world, is finding out what the actual facts are, and making sure
>>>> the public interest is served best, by not submitting to limitations that
>>>> aren't actually there. -- so yes, it would behoove us to look at the
>>>> written law.  I'm sorry I don't have time to look into this myself.  Do we
>>>> have access to a friendly Kenyan lawyer who might be able to help us find
>>>> out what the law says?)
>>>>
>>>>Asaf
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:39 AM, stephen wanjau 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Nice people,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do hope that you are doing well. At the meet-up, we resolved to
>>>>> undertake the photo-walk on the Saturday of 25th February 2012 and
>>>>> not on the 18th as it had earlier been indicated. During our meet-up
>>>>> I networked with a photographer/ blogger who was in attendance and we
>>>>> dialogued about how we could make this photo walk a success in terms of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> logistics

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiWomenCamp

2012-02-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Heather Ford  wrote:

>  >> the statistics are quite alarming.
>> >
>> > Are they?  Are we worried about there not being a featured article on
>> > Women's sports in Kenya on English Wikipedia?  How is that a priority?
>>
>
> With all due respect, Asaf, I don't think its a question of prioritizing
> women's issues over content. It doesn't (and shouldn't, I believe) be an
> *either/or* issue. Ideally, we should be thinking of building inclusive,
> diverse communities who write a diverse range of Wikipedia articles. These
> two things go together, not in any particular order.
>

It's not an either/or.  My point with the [[Kenya]] example was not one of
priority; it was that it's a superbly useless "perspective" on the
(certainly existent) underrepresentation of women and women-related issues
on all Wikipedias.  The implied "OMG there's no featured article on women's
basketball in Kenya!", when there's no featured article on _men's_
basketball in Kenya either, is just throwing sand in everyone's eyes.

My comment was intended to make Grace, and anyone possibly reading and
agreeing with her statement that it is "worrying", realize that the
"perspective" was a very misleading one.  We would all do well to look for
more meaningful ways of assessing coverage gaps on Wikipedia.

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Photo Walk

2012-02-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
Is this 2600 fee something official?  Will you be getting a receipt?  If
so, it's fine to pay it.  If it really is a bribe, we cannot cooperate with
it; supporting corruption is not a legitimate use of our donor funds.

   A.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, stephen wanjau wrote:

> Hello Nice people,
>
> Asaf, I sought some advice from a local lawyer and he adviced me it would
> be wise to notify the authorites of our undertaking considering the
> security status of our country courtesy of the invasion into Somalia. The
> Alshabab have been threatening to bomb the city and since we are a group of
> youths who shall be taking photos we might be mistaken to be counterparts
> of the Alshabab looking for the best buildings to attack.
>
> We sought advice from the OCPD Central police station today and the Urban
> Development Department at the city council of Nairobi.
>
> At the city Council of Nairobi, they advised that we are supposed to pay a
> fee of KES2,600. We talked to them and they told us to write a letter to
> request for a partial or full waiver since ours was not a commercial
> undertaking.
>
> As for the OCPD, he turned us down and he told us that he was too busy to
> handle our case ;( Planning to go and see him sometime this week or early
> next week.
>
> The project is still on as scheduled for 25th February, am just working to
> ensure everyone is safe and not harassed by the City Council Askaris [1]
> and the Regular police as well.
>
>
> //Stephen
>
> 1. City council, a den of 
> corruption.<http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=250446&cid=159&story=Why%20City%20Council%20court%20is%20a%20den%20of%20corruption>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>
>> What exactly did this photographer say you need a press card for?  I.e.
>> what are you not allowed to photograph without a press card?
>>
>> (In general, my experience shows that most people, including government
>> officials and professional photographers, have a fairly hazy knowledge of
>> copyright law, and often repeat "conventional wisdom" statements without
>> scrutiny.  One of the things Wikimedians have been consistently good at,
>> around the world, is finding out what the actual facts are, and making sure
>> the public interest is served best, by not submitting to limitations that
>> aren't actually there. -- so yes, it would behoove us to look at the
>> written law.  I'm sorry I don't have time to look into this myself.  Do we
>> have access to a friendly Kenyan lawyer who might be able to help us find
>> out what the law says?)
>>
>>Asaf
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:39 AM, stephen wanjau wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Nice people,
>>>
>>> I do hope that you are doing well. At the meet-up, we resolved to
>>> undertake the photo-walk on the Saturday of 25th February 2012 and not
>>> on the 18th as it had earlier been indicated. During our meet-up I
>>> networked with a photographer/ blogger who was in attendance and we
>>> dialogued about how we could make this photo walk a success in terms of the
>>> logistics involved.
>>>
>>> He informed me that he had been using images from commons as yet he
>>> never knew of the existence of a local community of Wikim(p)edians! From
>>> what he said, we are required by law to get Press cards from the affected
>>> ministry that deals with Journalism in Kenya, i.e. Ministry of Information
>>> and Communication.
>>>
>>>
>>> Another alternative that we had been given earlier by Kaburo as we were
>>> planning for Wikis takes Nairobi was to request for written permission from
>>> the City Council of Nairobi. I am kind of muddled by these two opinions
>>> because in Kenya there is freedom of panorama, one is allowed to take
>>> photos except at such places that are marked explicitly that you are not
>>> supposed to take photographs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Freedom of Panorama in 
>>> Kenya<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Kenya>as
>>>  highlighted on Commons.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone on this list who is conversant with this, I beg to be educated/
>>> rectified so that I can go ahead with the planning for the photo-walk.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Stephen.
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Photo Walk

2012-02-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
What exactly did this photographer say you need a press card for?  I.e.
what are you not allowed to photograph without a press card?

(In general, my experience shows that most people, including government
officials and professional photographers, have a fairly hazy knowledge of
copyright law, and often repeat "conventional wisdom" statements without
scrutiny.  One of the things Wikimedians have been consistently good at,
around the world, is finding out what the actual facts are, and making sure
the public interest is served best, by not submitting to limitations that
aren't actually there. -- so yes, it would behoove us to look at the
written law.  I'm sorry I don't have time to look into this myself.  Do we
have access to a friendly Kenyan lawyer who might be able to help us find
out what the law says?)

   Asaf

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:39 AM, stephen wanjau wrote:

> Hello Nice people,
>
> I do hope that you are doing well. At the meet-up, we resolved to
> undertake the photo-walk on the Saturday of 25th February 2012 and not on
> the 18th as it had earlier been indicated. During our meet-up I networked
> with a photographer/ blogger who was in attendance and we dialogued about
> how we could make this photo walk a success in terms of the logistics
> involved.
>
> He informed me that he had been using images from commons as yet he never
> knew of the existence of a local community of Wikim(p)edians! From what he
> said, we are required by law to get Press cards from the affected ministry
> that deals with Journalism in Kenya, i.e. Ministry of Information and
> Communication.
>
>
> Another alternative that we had been given earlier by Kaburo as we were
> planning for Wikis takes Nairobi was to request for written permission from
> the City Council of Nairobi. I am kind of muddled by these two opinions
> because in Kenya there is freedom of panorama, one is allowed to take
> photos except at such places that are marked explicitly that you are not
> supposed to take photographs.
>
>
> Freedom of Panorama in 
> Kenya<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Kenya>as 
> highlighted on Commons.
>
>
> Anyone on this list who is conversant with this, I beg to be educated/
> rectified so that I can go ahead with the planning for the photo-walk.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiWomenCamp

2012-02-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:54 PM, stephen wanjau wrote:
>
>> I came across this and I would like to share. click 
>> here<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/FAQ/Perspectives/Kenya>
>>
>
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Grace Kariuki  wrote:

> the statistics are quite alarming.
>

Are they?  Are we worried about there not being a featured article on
Women's sports in Kenya on English Wikipedia?  How is that a priority?  If
we care about featured articles (and I'm not sure we should, very much),
perhaps we can undertake to improve a more basic topic first, such as
[[Kenya]], which is, as of this writing, not even a "Good Article" on
English Wikipedia?

Likewise, is it at all meaningful that there was no Kenyan woman among the
eight (8!) researchers employed at the foundation this summer?  There was
no Kenyan man, either.  So what is the "perspective" this gives us on women
in the movement?

What is it that you found alarming?

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[Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!

2012-02-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
Jambo, everyone.

Great news! :)

Congratulations to you all.  This wouldn't have happened without your
dedication and inspiring work! :)

   Asaf

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Date: Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Subject: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!
To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)"



The Wikimedia Foundation Board is very pleased to welcome and approve
our 39th chapter, Wikimedia Kenya:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Kenya

Congratulations to all for your hard work!
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Photo Walk

2012-02-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent!  I'd encourage anyone who can make it to join, even if they
don't have a digital camera!  Just join the team, help spot interesting
things to photograph, and learn how to upload pictures to Commons at the
end of the walk! :)

   Asaf

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM, stephen wanjau wrote:

> Hello Nice People,
>
> As we prepare for the meet-up on the coming weekend I would like to *
> propose* we have a photo walk on either of the weekends following 11th,
> that is 18th or 25th February.
>
> The point of this photo walk is not just to capture pictures of notable
> buildings and monuments around Nairobi, but to also ask people to log on to
> commons and check it out by themselves.**
>
> All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in teams
> (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital Camera and a love
> of the city;)
>
> Regards,
> Stephen.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bureaucrat access

2012-02-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Oh, one crucial additional step:

8. after creating the account, go to
http://wikimedia.or.ke/Special:UserRights, type in the user name you just
created and click Edit User Groups, then check the checkbox "enabled".
 This is required to let the user have write access to the wiki.

I just reviewed all existing accounts and found some of them were not
enabled.  So if you couldn't edit the wiki previously, you should now be
able to.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Hi, folks.
>
> Back when we created the wiki <http://wikimedia.or.ke/> for the future
> Wikimedia Kenya, we set Abbas and me as "bureaucrats" (meaning users with
> administrative privileges -- among which, the ability to create users in
> this closed wiki), just as a starting default.
>
> I have now made those of you who have been active on the wiki in the past
> 30 days "bureaucrats" on the wiki as well, so that requests for new users
> don't need to depend on Abbas and me.  The new bureaucrats are: Oscar
> Limoke, Stephen Wanjau, Oliver Stegen (Baba Tabita) and Alex Wafula.
>
> If you feel anyone else needs bureaucrat access, let me know (or ask one
> of the new bureaucrats! :)).
>
> However, as Spider-Man's uncle said: "With great power comes great
> responsibility" -- so please don't fool around with the many things
> bureaucrats can do, to avoid creating unnecessary work.
>
> As a reminder, the way for bureaucrats to create new users for other
> people is:
>
> 1. Get the new user's e-mail, and let them pick their desired username.
> 2. Log in to wikimedia.or.ke with your own account
> 3. Under "Toolbox" in the left sidebar, pick "Special Pages"
> 4. Click "Log in / Create account"
> 5. Click the "Create an account" link
> 6. Type in the user's desired username and e-mail.  DO NOT type in
> anything for the password.
> 7. Click the "by e-mail" button, NOT the "create account" button.
>
> An e-mail will be sent to the new user's address, with a link to complete
> the registration.  Then the new user can pick their own password, and the
> world is at peace.
>
> P.S. I have created an account for Sarah Osano at her request.  This is as
> good an opportunity to ask one of the bureaucrats for an account on the
> WMKE wiki, if you don't already have one!  Be sure to specify the username
> you want.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters Co0nference Poll results

2012-02-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, everyone.

Congratulations on picking your delegates, and special thanks to Oscar
Limoke for taking mature leadership of the nomination process!

A couple of quick tips about making the most of the Berlin conference:

1. Make sure your presentation is brief and informative -- take a look at
some sample ones from last year to get a sense for what's appropriate.
 Basically, one slide of numbers -- membership, important dates in the
chapter's history (one is coming up ;)) -- a couple of slides on past
projects, and a couple more on current plans and future projects.  There
are _many_ chapters, and little time, so you really will only have about
three minutes!

2. The presentation is just the official bit.  Most of the value comes from
_participation_ in discussions, and from informal interactions during the
breaks, in the evening, etc.  So DON'T BE SHY!  Be sure to mingle and
share.  If you find yourself idle, just walk up to someone you don't know
yet and introduce yourself! :)

3. As you have two delegates, and as the conference has multiple parallel
tracks, don't be tempted to stick together; make sure each delegate attends
a different session, so the maximum amount of learning can be gained for
WMKE and shared when your delegates are back.

I look forward to meeting Stephen and Alex again in Berlin.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> Thank you so much for your participation in the poll. Thank you too for
> all \the eligible and energetic members of WMKE who showed interest in
> representing us at the Chapters Conference in Berlin.
>
> I would like to present the poll results:
>
> PS: I did note personally partake in the polls and I have shared the poll
> results with Abbas.
> I have scrambled the order of polling up to maintain the CONFIDENCE of the
> participants.
>
>
> [image: Vote Results.JPG]
>
> So Officially Stephen and Alex will be our representatives to the Chapters
> Conference in Berlin this year.
>
> PS: Alex,
> I understand you have some history with the German Embassy, should their
> arise a problem, I would like David to be on standby.
>
> Abbas will notify Harel and you should make it your own responsibility to
> start making travel plans and being updated on the conference (
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012) including
> adding your details.
>
> Please make presentation plans about the State of our Chapter( its a
> strictly 3 min ppt)
>
> Once again thank you so much for your time and participation
>
> Yours,
> --
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>
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[Wikimedia Kenya] Bureaucrat access

2012-02-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, folks.

Back when we created the wiki <http://wikimedia.or.ke/> for the future
Wikimedia Kenya, we set Abbas and me as "bureaucrats" (meaning users with
administrative privileges -- among which, the ability to create users in
this closed wiki), just as a starting default.

I have now made those of you who have been active on the wiki in the past
30 days "bureaucrats" on the wiki as well, so that requests for new users
don't need to depend on Abbas and me.  The new bureaucrats are: Oscar
Limoke, Stephen Wanjau, Oliver Stegen (Baba Tabita) and Alex Wafula.

If you feel anyone else needs bureaucrat access, let me know (or ask one of
the new bureaucrats! :)).

However, as Spider-Man's uncle said: "With great power comes great
responsibility" -- so please don't fool around with the many things
bureaucrats can do, to avoid creating unnecessary work.

As a reminder, the way for bureaucrats to create new users for other people
is:

1. Get the new user's e-mail, and let them pick their desired username.
2. Log in to wikimedia.or.ke with your own account
3. Under "Toolbox" in the left sidebar, pick "Special Pages"
4. Click "Log in / Create account"
5. Click the "Create an account" link
6. Type in the user's desired username and e-mail.  DO NOT type in anything
for the password.
7. Click the "by e-mail" button, NOT the "create account" button.

An e-mail will be sent to the new user's address, with a link to complete
the registration.  Then the new user can pick their own password, and the
world is at peace.

P.S. I have created an account for Sarah Osano at her request.  This is as
good an opportunity to ask one of the bureaucrats for an account on the
WMKE wiki, if you don't already have one!  Be sure to specify the username
you want.

Cheers,

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Some Possible Synch with OLPC Kenya

2012-02-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
This is excellent, Oscar!

Has Chrys Kakoba been able to finish localization OLPC to Swahili?

Also: how are we doing on finalizing the content for the Kenya curriculum
ZIM file?  Are we done identifying the articles?

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

> Jambo wote,
>
> I have been busy this past  month with OLPC projects as some of you
> know. It has been really exciting and I must say while at it, I got to
> create a number of opportunities where we could possibly work hand in
> hand. Especially in creating content (The Kenya Syllabus ZIM file)
>
>
> I also distributed the Offlione Wikipedia to Teachers in Kisumu,
> Butere, Bungoma, Taita and Kampala and they all were so excited.
> Today we are meeting the Assistant Minister for Higher Education who
> will introduce us to the KIE guys ( whom we really tried hard to loop
> in during the Offline Project in vain ).
>  I am sure to loop in our Offline Project to the Minister and the KIE
> guys and see if we could get some support from them.
> We have lots of rely Education oriented activities lined up for the
> year and am sure we as WMKE will feature in many of them.
>
> So stay tuned :-)
>
> Yours,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Representatives for the Wikimedia Conference 2012 in Berlin

2012-01-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent, thanks for the clarification, Abbas.

I'd recommend picking an interim executive team (or anything else you want
to call an informal equivalent to a board), even before legal founding, so
there's clear division of responsibility, to drive the founding forward.
 Also, it's best to at least start discussion _how_ to select delegates, in
order to be very sure you have picked delegates by early or mid-Feb at the
latest.  Flight ticket prices are rising as we near the event (now about
two months away).

P.S. How is Wiki Takes Nairobi coming along?  Has it been cancelled?
Postponed?

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

> Thanks Asaf,
>
> Speaking of which (Board), is it not tme we started thinking of
> constituting one?
>
> Maybe we could use the scheduled mid feb meetup for elections for the
> board? And maybe deliberate on our reps?
>
> Best,
>
> On 1/27/12, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:
> > Asaf,
> >
> > RE: the Chapters list, I have already been informed by Michael Peel, the
> > list admin, that we should forward 5 people (presumably the Board) to be
> > added. I shall send their names once we have a Board in place.
> >
> > Abbas.
> >
> > From: abar...@wikimedia.org
> > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:41:16 -0800
> > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Representatives for the Wikimedia
> > Conference2012 in Berlin
> >
> > Hi, everyone.
> > I was wondering if you have at least one or two folks subscribed to the
> > chapters-only mailing list (chapt...@wikimedia.ch), where Harel Cain,
> this
> > year's program manager for the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin, has been
> > inviting chapters to start thinking about their representation in Berlin
> > this year.  He has asked me to make sure WMKE is aware of the invitation,
> > and I quote his e-mail for your consideration below.  Note that he sent
> it
> > to me expressly for the purpose of helping it reach all the chapters that
> > haven't responded yet -- neither I nor anyone else from the Foundation is
> > subscribed to the chapters-only mailing list, and this is deliberately
> so.
> >
> >
> > You may remember that last year, your delegates in Berlin were Abbas and
> > Limoke.
> > You can read all about the conference, and past years' conferences,
> > here:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >Asaf
> > 
> > From: Harel Cain 
> >
> >
> > Date: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 21:26
> > Subject: Re: [Chapters] **Reminder** Registration for Chapters Meeting
> 2012:
> > YOUR ACTION REQUIRED
> > To: chapt...@wikimedia.ch
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > In the eleven days since I first sent out the e-mail below, quite a few
> > chapters have chosen their delegates to the Chapters Conference 2012 or
> at
> > least an interim contact person for the chapters has signed up in
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012/Participants.
> >
> >
> >
> > However, we still haven't received any sign of life from the following
> > chapters, and our plans are for registration to end in less than two
> weeks'
> > time, by February 5th!
> > So may I please remind you all to speed up the choice of your
> > representatives to ChapConf12 - our time is running out. I would also
> like
> > to repeat that Wikimedia Deutschland, our kind host, will be covering the
> > flight and accommodation costs for chapters who cannot afford it
> themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please, if you're from one of these chapters - list yourself as an
> interim
> > contact person. If you know how to contact anyone from those chapters and
> > think they are not following the list - please forward this to them.
> >
> >
> >
> > * Wikimedia Brazil (chapter-to-be, probably not on this list yet - can
> > someone forward this to any of their people?)
> > * Wikimedia Canada (are they on the list?)
> >
> >
> > * Wikimedia Deutschland
> > * Wikimedia DC (too busy with Wikimania?)
> > * Wikimedia Espana
> > * Wikimedia France
> > * Wikimedia Hong Kong
> >
> >
> > * Wikimedia Indonesia (Siska, you there?)
> > * Wikimedia Italia
> > * Wikimedia Kazakhstan (chapter-to-be, probably not on this list yet -
> can
> > someone forward this to any of their people?)
> >
> >
> > * Wikimedia Kenya (chap

[Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Representatives for the Wikimedia Conference 2012 in Berlin

2012-01-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, everyone.

I was wondering if you have at least one or two folks subscribed to the
chapters-only mailing list (chapt...@wikimedia.ch), where Harel Cain, this
year's program manager for the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin, has been
inviting chapters to start thinking about their representation in Berlin
this year.  He has asked me to make sure WMKE is aware of the invitation,
and I quote his e-mail for your consideration below.  Note that he sent it
to me expressly for the purpose of helping it reach all the chapters that
haven't responded yet -- neither I nor anyone else from the Foundation is
subscribed to the chapters-only mailing list, and this is deliberately so.

You may remember that last year, your delegates in Berlin were Abbas and
Limoke.

You can read all about the conference, and past years' conferences, here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_**2012<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012/>

Cheers,

   Asaf



From: Harel Cain 
Date: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 21:26
Subject: Re: [Chapters] **Reminder** Registration for Chapters Meeting
2012: YOUR ACTION REQUIRED
To: chapt...@wikimedia.ch

Dear all,

In the eleven days since I first sent out the e-mail below, quite a few
chapters have chosen their delegates to the Chapters Conference 2012 or at
least an interim contact person for the chapters has signed up in
http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_**2012/Participants<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012/Participants>
.

However, we still haven't received any sign of life from the following
chapters, and our plans are for registration to end in less than two weeks'
time, by February 5th!
So may I please remind you all to speed up the choice of your
representatives to ChapConf12 - our time is running out. I would also like
to repeat that Wikimedia Deutschland, our kind host, will be covering the
flight and accommodation costs for chapters who cannot afford it themselves.

Please, if you're from one of these chapters - list yourself as an interim
contact person. If you know how to contact anyone from those chapters and
think they are not following the list - please forward this to them.

* Wikimedia Brazil (chapter-to-be, probably not on this list yet - can
someone forward this to any of their people?)
* Wikimedia Canada (are they on the list?)
* Wikimedia Deutschland
* Wikimedia DC (too busy with Wikimania?)
* Wikimedia Espana
* Wikimedia France
* Wikimedia Hong Kong
* Wikimedia Indonesia (Siska, you there?)
* Wikimedia Italia
* Wikimedia Kazakhstan (chapter-to-be, probably not on this list yet - can
someone forward this to any of their people?)
* Wikimedia Kenya (chapter-to-be, probably not on this list yet - can
someone forward this to any of their people?)
* Wikimedia Macedonia (Kiril, you there?)
* Wikimedia Macau (are they on the list?)
* Wikimedia Mexico
* Wikimedia Norge
* Wikimedia Polska
* Wikimedia Portugal
* Wikimedia Russia
* Wikimedia Serbia
* Wikimedia Taiwan
* Wikimedia Ukraine
* Wikimedia South Africa (apparently being added to the list as we speak)


Thank you everyone!

Harel Cain
Program manager for Chapters' Meeting 2012

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia.or.ke Renewal

2011-12-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
The first installment of WMKE's startup grant has already been transferred
to Stephen's bank account, as your interim treasurer.  Stephen, please
connect with David and either pay this directly or arrange to reimburse
David?

Whoever handles this, please collect receipts and pass them to Stephen for
safekeeping for your records.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, David Mugo  wrote:

> I can handle renewal, hosting and migration of the site. I need the
> finances to do that though.
>
> David.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>
>> Please please please take care of this -- as has been discussed, we can't
>> do this for you.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>
>> Asaf
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:30 PM, David Mugo  wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> This domain is due for renewal, handle this urgently.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -
>>> David Mugo,
>>> ICT & E-Commerce Consultant,
>>> http://majibu.com
>>> Twitter: @raidarmax
>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia.or.ke Renewal

2011-12-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Please please please take care of this -- as has been discussed, we can't
do this for you.

Cheers,

Asaf

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:30 PM, David Mugo  wrote:

> Guys,
>
> This domain is due for renewal, handle this urgently.
>
> --
> -
> David Mugo,
> ICT & E-Commerce Consultant,
> http://majibu.com
> Twitter: @raidarmax
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Aircraft hobbyist

2011-12-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent, thanks! :)

   A.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:06 PM, David Mugo  wrote:

> Im in touch with the journalist who did the story, will try see if I can
> get contacts tomorrow.
>
> David.
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>
>> Hi, everyone.
>>
>> One of our "storytellers" would like to interview this guy:
>>
>> http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/10/26/kenyan-man-builds-airplane-in-yard-based-mostly-on-wikipedia-entries/
>>
>> Do we know how to reach him?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>Asaf
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[Wikimedia Kenya] Aircraft hobbyist

2011-12-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, everyone.

One of our "storytellers" would like to interview this guy:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/10/26/kenyan-man-builds-airplane-in-yard-based-mostly-on-wikipedia-entries/

Do we know how to reach him?

Thanks,

   Asaf
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