Re: [zones-discuss] Nero Linux in zones

2010-04-11 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:41:07 +0300 valrhona wrote:

But, c'mon: CD burning? This problem was solved a decade ago. I like  
Nero, because I can aggregate various directories, click twice, and my  
DVD comes out verified five minutes later. The idea that i have to track  
down packages, or deal with Brasero (which I'm sure can be configured; I  
just don't want to spend the time for something that I already know how  
to do otherwise), just raises the barrier unnecessarily for people who  
want to try out OpenSolaris, get it working, and then explore its  
compelling new features.


The fact that -you- like Nero so much that you won't use another piece of
software to do what you want to do does not meen CD-Burning is difficult
on OpenSolaris. It simply means nero is not supported on OpenSolaris, like
InDesign is not, nor Photoshop and many many other software packages. No
big deal. Virtualize windows and you're set.
Complain to the Nero software engineers and make them support solaris.
(not much change though..) Or accept the fact that not all software is
supported on your platform of choice.

People are rightfully worried about the future of OpenSolaris, but by  
having some basic things be so difficult and time-consuming, just to get  
the basics of usability running, only exacerbate the problem by limiting  
adoption.


Totally besides the point and absolute nonsence. You mean -YOU- worry just
because one of you favo progs is not supported. I can give you lots of
examples of progs not supported on linux, or FreeBSD or OS-X or.. Do we
all worry about the future of these OS's?

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[zones-discuss] move ZFS fs to a zone

2010-02-07 Thread dick hoogendijk
# zfs list
rpool/www 3.64G   377G  3.64G  /var/www
rpool/zones   3.00G   377G24K  /zones
rpool/zones/anduin1.94G   377G24K  /zones/anduin
rpool/zones/anduin/ROOT   1.94G   377G21K  legacy
rpool/zones/anduin/ROOT/zbe   1.94G   377G  1.91G  legacy
rpool/zones/midgard   1.06G   377G24K  /zones/midgard
rpool/zones/midgard/ROOT  1.06G   377G21K  legacy
rpool/zones/midgard/ROOT/zbe  1.06G   377G  1.06G  legacy

I want to move the rpool/www zfs filesystem to zone midgard.
Is this possible and how is this done?
I guess it will no longer be accessible from the GZ then. That would be
good, because I want to seperate my webserver from my global zone.
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[zones-discuss] upgrading and zones

2010-02-06 Thread dick hoogendijk
Going from OpenSolaris b131 to b132..
Am I correct in this procedure:
[1] pkg image-update (with zones attached)
[2] after reboot to the new BE detach the zones
[3] zoneadm attach -u zones

OR, do I have to detach -BEFORE- the pkg image -update?

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Re: [zones-discuss] GDM connect to GDM in a zone ?

2010-02-01 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

On 02/ 1/10 04:54 PM, Paul van der Zwan wrote:

Is it possible to run GDM inside a zone on b131 ? I would like to have a zone I 
can use to run stuff like netbeans etc in, and
I don’t want to use the global zone for that.

As far as I can tell the gdm smf service depends on dbus and that is marked as 
global zone only.
One more complication is that gdm is missing the old dtlogin option to select a 
remote host to connect to.
Or is that option hidden/disabled by default ?
   
I used this option quite heavenly on solaris 10. I ran a special user 
zone for logins. This option is not available in OpenSolaris (yet). It 
is a pity, because a GUI login to zones would be most welcome. Is it 
planned?

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Re: [zones-discuss] Downgrading zones on Opensolaris 2009.x ( b131)

2010-01-26 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 25-1-2010 12:30, Paul van der Zwan schr

Unfortunately I am running into bug 6912829 ( causes panic on zoneadm halt ) 
quite often.
   


Do or don't zones work correctly on OpenSolaris-b131?
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[zones-discuss] zlogin -C zone

2010-01-26 Thread dick hoogendijk
I get very very frustrated. I installed a zone on my opensolaris b131
and all went well. The zone boots OK.
Then it's time for the zlogin -C but no matter what, I always seem to
choose the wrong keyboard and so all I get pressing F2 is OQ. This is
on opensolaris-b131

What type of terminal do I choose. I work from within gnome, but if
needed I'll shutdown gdm and work from the console.
Can I reverse the wrong choice I made or do I have to uninstall the
complete zone?
I'd very much like to install some zones (shared IP, so there are no
issues).

Please help.



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[zones-discuss] ZFS with zones LU upgrade 8 successful

2009-10-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
ZFS with zones LU upgrade 8 successful

After much irritation I decided to lucreate a new BE one more time.
I then 'zfs mounted' it and removed the unwanted lines in /etc/vfstab
created by the LU upgrade 8 packages. I also changed the zonepath in
the /etc/zones/*xml files to something new as well as in
the /etc/zones/index file! All this in the NEW ABE! After these changes
I ran luupgrade and this time I got no errors! None whatsoever. All
went very smoothly. The luactivate did OK too. Before I rebooted into
the new ABE I changed back the /etc/zones/*.xml and /etc/zones/index.
Not because it is needed, but just because I like the old zonepath. ;-)
After a reboot I'm now on an updated S10u8 environment and my zones are
running perfectly. I can say this workaround, although not nice, works.
I do hope however that the LiveUpgrade packages will be patched to work
with ZFS zoneroots and zones in a normal way.

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[zones-discuss] ZFS with zones LU upgrade 8 successful

2009-10-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
ZFS with zones LU upgrade 8 successful

After much irritation I decided to lucreate a new BE one more time.
I then 'zfs mounted' it and removed the unwanted lines in /etc/vfstab
created by the LU upgrade 8 packages. I also changed the zonepath in
the /etc/zones/*xml files to something new as well as in
the /etc/zones/index file! All this in the NEW ABE! After these changes
I ran luupgrade and this time I got no errors! None whatsoever. All
went very smoothly. The luactivate did OK too. Before I rebooted into
the new ABE I changed back the /etc/zones/*.xml and /etc/zones/index.
Not because it is needed, but just because I like the old zonepath. ;-)
After a reboot I'm now on an updated S10u8 environment and my zones are
running perfectly. I can say this workaround, although not nice, works.
I do hope however that the LiveUpgrade packages will be patched to work
with ZFS zoneroots and zones in a normal way.

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[zones-discuss] ZFS Live Upgrade and Zones dilemma

2009-10-12 Thread dick hoogendijk
 of cleanup operations required.
INFORMATION: Review the files listed above. Remember that all of the
files are located on boot environment s10u8. Before you activate boot 
environment s10u8, determine if any additional system maintenance is 
required or if additional media of the software distribution must be 
installed.
The Solaris upgrade of the boot environment s10u8 is complete.
Installing failsafe
Failsafe install is complete.
###END of report

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Re: [zones-discuss] Strange error with ZFS Live Upgrade and Zones

2009-10-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
LiveUpgrade in s10u8 is broken imho. My s10 with a couple of sparse zones 
cannot be upgraded too with exactly the same errors. Mind you: my zones ARE 
part of the BE-path! so, that makes no difference. I then used the LU packages 
from s10u7 to lucreate and luupgrade to s10u8 which worked very well. The 
luactivate did not however. :-( Maybe I should have installed the newer LU 
packages and used the latest luactivate. I may test this. Still, I very 
disappointed that this upgrade with zones is so difficult, while it should be 
very easy on ZFS. Hope it will be resolved.
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Re: [zones-discuss] Strange error with ZFS Live Upgrade and Zones

2009-10-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:29:55 +0200
casper@sun.com wrote:
 
 LiveUpgrade in s10u8 is broken imho. My s10 with a couple of sparse
 zones cannot be upgraded too w ith exactly the same errors. Mind you:
 my zones ARE part of the BE-path! so, that makes no differen ce. I
 then used the LU packages from s10u7 to lucreate and luupgrade to
 s10u8 which worked very wel l. The luactivate did not
 however. :-( Maybe I should have installed the newer LU packages and
 used the latest luactivate. I may test this. Still, I very
 disappointed that this upgrade with zones is so difficult, while it
 should be very easy on ZFS. Hope it will be resolved.
 
 We certainly tested this and we're certain it worked; not using s10u8
 upgrade tools may cause certain issues.

I think you misunderstood me. I'm sure you tested it, but it does NOT
work. The LU packages from s10u8 fail in every aspect. Lucreate can't
even create a new BE so what luupgrade does cannot be tested. Nor can I
test what luactivate (from u8) does. Other persons report errors on
this program too.

Only after finding out the U8 packages don't work, I reinstalled the LU
packages from S10u7 and created and upgraded a new BE with them. That
finished without any errors! Everything went the way it should. (at
least that can be read in the /var/sadm/system/... files)

It was only after I also used luactivate (from s10u7) that things got
screwed up and left me with an unbootable system. Turned out luactivate
had ruined the bootbloks, so an installgrub solved this.

But since I got some attention (for which I am very grateful!) I will
start over and try to catch the errors on screen. It may help.
 
 How did the upgrade fail?
As said, the upgrade went very well on an ABE created with
lucreate/luupgrade from s10u7. Lucreate from s10u8 fails. I'll send the
screens later on.

 How did luactivate fail?  Did the command fail or did rebooting (init
 6) failed?

As I said, I can understand that luactivate from an older version might
things bad. It did in my case. Luactivate from the new version is to be
tested on an updated ABE yet.

I'll come back on it.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Strange error with ZFS Live Upgrade and Zones

2009-10-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:22:23 +0200
dick hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl wrote:
 I'll come back on it.
Here it is. It's a long message, but worth analyzing I hope.

arwen# zfs list
NAME  MOUNTPOINT
rpool /rpool
rpool/ROOTlegacy
rpool/ROOT/daffy  /
rpool/ROOT/da...@goofy-
rpool/ROOT/daffy/zones/zones
rpool/ROOT/daffy/zo...@daffy  -
rpool/ROOT/daffy/zo...@goofy  -
rpool/ROOT/daffy/zones/midgard-daffy  /zones/midgard-daffy
rpool/ROOT/daffy/zones/shire-daffy/zones/shire-daffy
rpool/ROOT/daffy/zones/yanta-daffy/zones/yanta-daffy
rpool/ROOT/goofy  /
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/zones
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/midgard/zones/midgard
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/midg...@goofy  -
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/shire  /zones/shire
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/sh...@goofy-
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/yanta  /zones/yanta
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/ya...@goofy-
rpool/dump-
rpool/export  /export
rpool/export/home /export/home
rpool/swap-

arwen# lofiadm -a /export/iso/s10u8.iso /dev/lofi/1
arwen# mount -F hsfs -o ro /dev/lofi/1 /iso
arwen# cd /iso/Solaris_10/Tools/Installers
arwen# ./liveupgrade20
arwen# umount /iso
arwen# lofiadm -d /dev/lofi/1

===---===LU packages from S10u8===
arwen# lustatus
Boot Environment   Is   Active ActiveCanCopy  
Name   Complete NowOn Reboot Delete Status
--  -- - -- --
daffy  yes  no noyes- 
goofy  yes  yesyes   no - 

arwen# lucreate -n s10u8
Checking GRUB menu...
System has findroot enabled GRUB
Analyzing system configuration.
Comparing source boot environment goofy file systems with the file 
system(s) you specified for the new boot environment. Determining which 
file systems should be in the new boot environment.
Updating boot environment description database on all BEs.
Updating system configuration files.
Creating configuration for boot environment s10u8.
Source boot environment is goofy.
Creating boot environment s10u8.
Cloning file systems from boot environment goofy to create boot
environment s10u8. Creating snapshot for rpool/ROOT/goofy on
rpool/ROOT/go...@s10u8. Creating clone for rpool/ROOT/go...@s10u8
on rpool/ROOT/s10u8. Setting canmount=noauto for / in zone global
on rpool/ROOT/s10u8. Creating snapshot for rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones
on rpool/ROOT/goofy/zo...@s10u8. Creating clone for
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zo...@s10u8 on rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones. Setting
canmount=noauto for /zones in zone global on
rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones. Creating snapshot for
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/shire on rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/sh...@s10u8.
Creating clone for rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/sh...@s10u8 on
rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/shire-s10u8. cannot mount
'rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/shire-s10u8': legacy mountpoint use mount(1M)
to mount this filesystem ERROR: Failed to mount dataset
rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/shire-s10u8 legacy is not an absolute path.
Creating snapshot for rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/midgard on
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/midg...@s10u8. Creating clone for
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/midg...@s10u8 on
rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/midgard-s10u8. cannot mount
'rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/midgard-s10u8': legacy mountpoint use mount(1M)
to mount this filesystem ERROR: Failed to mount dataset
rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/midgard-s10u8 legacy is not an absolute path.
Creating snapshot for rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/yanta on
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/ya...@s10u8. Creating clone for
rpool/ROOT/goofy/zones/ya...@s10u8 on
rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/yanta-s10u8. cannot mount
'rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/yanta-s10u8': legacy mountpoint use mount(1M)
to mount this filesystem ERROR: Failed to mount dataset
rpool/ROOT/s10u8/zones/yanta-s10u8 legacy is not an absolute path.
WARNING: split filesystem / file system type zfs cannot inherit
mount point options - from parent filesystem / file type -
because the two file systems have different types. Saving existing file
/boot/grub/menu.lst in top level dataset for BE daffy as
mount-point//boot/grub/menu.lst.prev. Saving existing file
/boot/grub/menu.lst in top level dataset for BE s10u8 as
mount-point//boot/grub/menu.lst.prev. File /boot/grub/menu.lst
propagation successful Copied GRUB menu from PBE to ABE No entry for BE
s10u8 in GRUB menu Population of boot environment s10u8 successful.
Creation of boot environment s10u8 successful.

As you can see there are some errors, BUT the BE creation is succesful.
This does not feel right, but OK. I will go ahead since a zfs list
seems to be OK too.

arwen# zfs list
NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
rpool /rpool
rpool/ROOT

Re: [zones-discuss] Strange error with ZFS Live Upgrade and Zones

2009-10-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:29:55 +0200

And this is bad too:

arwen# luumount s10u8
ERROR: umount: /a/var/run busy
ERROR: cannot unmount /a/var/run
ERROR: failed to unmount /a/var/run
ERROR: cannot unmount '/a': Device busy
ERROR: cannot unmount rpool/ROOT/s10u8
ERROR: failed to unmount /a
ERROR: cannot unmount boot environment - all 2 file systems remain
mounted

So, a system reboot is needed to get rid of this mess.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Strange error with ZFS Live Upgrade and Zones

2009-10-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:54:00 +0200
Thomas Törnblom thomas.tornb...@sun.com wrote:

  So, a system reboot is needed to get rid of this mess.
 
 Have you tried luumount -f?

Yes, and this time it worked. So this message should not have been
written. It's not the main message though. ;-) I hope they fix the
broken lu package from s10u8 or at least know a workaround that works.
I don't want to mess with my main server too much. I could not even
ludelete the newly created ABE (and the ludelete from u7 also did not
do the job). So, again, manual labour and some zfs destroy commands.
Plus of course, get rid of the old (lu) data in /etc/lutab and /etc/lu.
But the ABE has disappeared ;-)

I will start testing again if some good advice is available.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Strange error with ZFS Live Upgrade and Zones

2009-10-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:33:12 +0200
casper@sun.com wrote:

 Hm, I've seen those issues before; I'm not sure what keeps /var/run 
 unmountable.  I'm not even sure why the current liveupgrade also
 mounts the tmpfs directories and the non-essential zfs filesystems.

I just read in another thread about LU and the NVidea driver the
following information:

 John Martin john.m.mar...@sun.com wrote:
 Following the instructions in the Solaris 10 10/09 Installation Guide:
 http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-0438?l=en
 
 I installed LU patch 121431-43 (S10U7 has 121431-27) and installed
 the LU software using the S10U8 installer.

This might explain the errors I've written about. I checked my LU patch
version and it's on 121431-37 (!) I'm NOT allowed to download the
latest (adviced) patch:

Patch  IR   CR RSB Age Synopsis
121431 37  43---38 SunOS 5.8_x86 5.9_x86 5.10_x86: Live Upgrade Patch

Looking for 121431-43 (1/1)
Trying https://sunsolve.sun.com/ (1/1)
Failed
Failed (patch not found)
--
Download Summary: 1 total, 0 successful, 0 skipped, 1 failed

This should not be happening if this patch is NEEDED for upgrading.
But again, it may not really be needed and than it's normal that it's
not avail. I can not be sure. I'm no insider.

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[zones-discuss] 121431-43 Live Upgrade Patch

2009-10-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
This needed and adviced (by sun) Live Upgrade Patch can be found on

http://sunsolve.sun.com/show.do?target=patches/zos-x10

As all can see the patch is listed there as public so, it should be
downloadable for guys without contracts. However, it's NOT. Click on it
and you get to the page where you're reminded to renew your contract.

Something's wrong. Hope it get available soon and solves my upgrade
problems.

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