Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] zope.org dns
Hi All, Summary of current status on DNS... I've just updated the zonedit contact details to point to: http://groups.google.com/group/zopeorg-dns This is a private, members only group and I've invited all relevant people to the group. If I've left anyone out, please let me know. If you've got an invite, please join up ;-) I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts. How do people feel about this? Am I right in assuming that: - zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise, point to: Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming this is a propogation issue and I just need to wait? - zonedit is going to be our only DNS host and all its records are currently correct, we're just waiting for them to propogate? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
Hi, Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, Summary of current status on DNS... I've just updated the zonedit contact details to point to: http://groups.google.com/group/zopeorg-dns This is a private, members only group and I've invited all relevant people to the group. If I've left anyone out, please let me know. If you've got an invite, please join up ;-) I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts. How do people feel about this? Am I right in assuming that: - zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise, point to: Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming this is a propogation issue and I just need to wait? For me, this morning DNS seems to be back to normal, the changes appeared in my machines and are effective. Thanks for getting back to normal to everyone who helped. Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
yep :-) Chris Lennart Regebro wrote: Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/13/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep :-) Extra annoyiong since I have been trying to unsubscribe from the zope-list for a week. And failing. I don't have time to read that list just now... procmail's great, works for me on michael milne ;-) (and I believe several others have used the same trick on me in the past... *wry grinz*) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] statistical nonsense
Lennart Regebro said: Say that a server fails one day per month in average (which is way more than we really will have). One backup server located on anotehr continent then means that we will statistically have DNS outage only one day in 900. Thats one day every three years. Two backups located on different continents will give us a failure rate of one day per 27000 days. That's one day every seventy-fifth year. WHAT!?!? The internet hasn't even been around for seventy five years, and sites are down all the time. shut the fuck up. I hope you all curl up and die. I'm going to use TurboGears, since apparently noone in the Zope community will fucking talk to me anymore. You are the most childish fucks I have ever worked with. Way to show a guy thanks. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] statistical nonsense
Justizin wrote: I hope you all curl up and die. I'm going to use TurboGears, since apparently noone in the Zope community will fucking talk to me anymore. I'm sure you will be sorely missed ;-) Seriously, you seemed like a well meaning, fairly clued up, if slightly arrogant guy when you offered to help, but these tirades of abuse are making you look like a clown - and I should know; Google can testify to several of my own clownish tirades... Justin, good luck with TurboGears, I hope none too many of your customers stumble across your postings here... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] statistical nonsense
On 10/13/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justizin wrote: I hope you all curl up and die. I'm going to use TurboGears, since apparently noone in the Zope community will fucking talk to me anymore. I'm sure you will be sorely missed ;-) Seriously, you seemed like a well meaning, fairly clued up, if slightly arrogant guy when you offered to help, but these tirades of abuse are making you look like a clown - and I should know; Google can testify to several of my own clownish tirades... I am the one being abused here. I offered over 20 hours of my time as a volunteer and in exchange my name has been drug through the mud. FUCK YOU. Arrogant? It's easy to call anyone arrogant who says: Please, trust me, I know what I'm talking about, we should be careful to avoid a problem. The fact is that you guys are continually accusing me of making a mistake that was not really part of the problem. You want a post-mortem? here it is: http://justizin.blogspot.com/2006/10/zopeorg-dns-post-mortem.html Justin, good luck with TurboGears, I hope none too many of your customers stumble across your postings here... My customers work with me because of my track record. They seek my sort of help. Heck, at my age, I could just go join a fucking band instead of spending most of my time volunteering to work with open-source software on behalf of non-profit foundations. I'll probably show this discussion to some of my customers when they ask me to rush on something. I am not afraid to be myself. Whatever, dude. This is the most disgusting display I've ever seen to someone who has volunteered to help with something complex. You can all rot in hell and die. I hope my customers will see that, while I went out of my way to help a community which we depend on, I did not hang onto this responsibility so tightly that I will let their projects fall on the floor. In fact, I will talk to the Association for Computing Machinery IS team about this entire incident as an example of a community who needs our resources, but will never accept them. -- Justizin, Independent Interactivity Architect ACM SIGGRAPH SysMgr, Reporter http://www.siggraph.org/ ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
Christian Theune wrote: ... Thanks for getting back to normal to everyone who helped. +sys.maxint -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] statistical nonsense
Justizin wrote: Heck, at my age, I could just go join a fucking band instead of spending most of my time volunteering to work with open-source software on behalf of non-profit foundations. http://www.bash.org/?14207 ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Oct 2006, at 03:06, Lennart Regebro wrote: Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? No. Unless Apache sends mail nowadays... The Mailman thing was an *unrelated* problem. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFL4pVRAx5nvEhZLIRAsX8AJsEw+JBrfc70KSgiqNd696yPmk5cQCaA+sp d9ytVIkvgcPTMREzQEkTWdw= =g+ec -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
On Oct 13, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Oct 2006, at 03:06, Lennart Regebro wrote: Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? No. Unless Apache sends mail nowadays... The Mailman thing was an *unrelated* problem. Actually, it was sort of tangentially related. Mailman's delivery got wedged because I changed its permissions, in the process of setting Andrew up, in a way I thought would be non-problematic and which turned out not to be, in the process of un-wedging its legitimate mail delivery, a bunch of spam was sent out as well. That was my mistake and it shouldn't happen again. --Dave Systems Administrator Zope Corp. 540-361-1722 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am I right in assuming that: - zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise, point to: Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming this is a propogation issue and I just need to wait? Go to http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp to find out. The changes Rob said he made yesterday are not showing yet. I don't know how long it takes for that kind of change to go through. Once those changes are visible only ns1/ns7.zoneedit.com will show. - zonedit is going to be our only DNS host and all its records are currently correct, we're just waiting for them to propogate? We're mainly waiting for the registrar changes to go through because 3 out of 5 DNS servers that are part of the old records either send out incorrect data (ns.qutang.net) or they don't know records like foundation.zope.org (ns2.zope.com, ns3.zope.com, ns.qutang.net). jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFL45oRAx5nvEhZLIRArxQAKCJQbyyTPilVpaTD/eWzAgL7N7PBwCfU6Bn jc7fByvPyqEHxPamaUL9Ayw= =QEdw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] Please stop the statistical nonsense and it was fun :) threads.
These threads have gone far enough. Let's stop. I've banned Justizin from this list for his totally inappropriate language. We've had enough fun. Let's get on with making positive progress. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
Not exactly. An Apache directive fubar doesn't cause spam making it through mailman. Andrew On 10/13/06 4:15 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep :-) Chris Lennart Regebro wrote: Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Oct 2006, at 09:25, David Lawson wrote: Speaking of this, since only the ZoneEdit servers are going to be listed as authoritative for this zone, once the changes propagate, shall we just shut down serving DNS for zope.org from the zope.com DNS servers? Or would you prefer that we remain as a slave and we just work out the NOTIFY nonsense later? Apparently zoneedit does not do NOTIFY - IMHO a huge drawback that necessitates scripting or manual pulling of data. Once the WHOIS record changes have propagated the zope.com servers can basically go away, but please leave them on until then. Actually, if you have a second, could you add a record for foundation.zope.org (63.240.213.174) or pull down the current data from zoneedit and feed it into ns2/ns3.zope.com? jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFL5ZtRAx5nvEhZLIRAl9TAJ4sfTO0YguPiyxd2zATnsctBN70bACfWM5K MOik7kyyE6j22jryh6q8JwU= =e9Lj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Oct 2006, at 08:34, Andrew Sawyers wrote: Not exactly. An Apache directive fubar doesn't cause spam making it through mailman. Dave already said the way he unwedged Mailman may have something to do with the spam, let's drop it, it all works now. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFL5cBRAx5nvEhZLIRAj6BAKCsuUKGJGlm2u7Mjk9PH5AKOq1i4ACeIbhW kd2fC9W470Zzp0ZYwyhy2D0= =Vfkf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Andrew Sawyers wrote: See: foundation.zope.org This is using Darryl's magic. It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it. Thanks Darryl and David from ZC. I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces from Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Andrew Sawyers cool :) Until someone answers Baiju about a place to report issues, I'd like to give a feedback about the menu from this page: http://foundation.zope.org/members/ looking at the menu, I think that it will be more readable if we change all labels from members submenu Zope Foundation Strategic Developer Members - Strategic Developer Members Zope Foundation Associate Members - Associate Members etc.. We all know it's the members list for ZF so we can cut the ZF header I think. to get a lighter, more readable menu, with one line entries Tarek ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
Jim Fulton wrote: Chris Withers wrote: ... I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts. How do people feel about this? It makes me feel uncomfortable. :) No worries, that's fine, I think enough people have the zoneedit details to be safe. If you'd like them too, just lemme know and I'll forward 'em on... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] re: it was fun :)
Please stop this thread. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Hurrah! Great work all. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Zone Edit nameserver Offerings FYI
So what's the price tag on the deal? Andrew Sawyers wrote: Zone Edit offers DNS services on different continents for a small fee. We can easily support our requirements with little effort from these folks: ZoneEdit's basic service offers a pair of DNS servers with 24x7 monitoring and recovery on each server. Each server is located on a distinct and separately maintained network with a 99.9% uptime. With DNS, if any one server goes down, the other servers are used. Therefore, each nameserver you add to your domain greatly reduces the odds of an outage. For your most important domains, we highly reccomend using 3 or 4 DNS servers. We have never had a 3 server outage. We offer a 100% uptime guarantee for domains with four ZoneEdit nameservers. If you are already a ZoneEdit customer, you can log in, click on your most important domain, click Advanced, click Nameservers, and click Purchase an Extra Backup Nameserver. You can then choose the country and location of the new nameserver. If you are not using ZoneEdit's DNS, you can sign up to use our secondary DNS service. Our servers will be automatically synchronized with your primary servers, and are added to your domain as DNS backups. We offer up to 8 managed DNS networks in the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia. For your most important domains, use ZoneEdit's backup DNS. -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Zone Edit nameserver Offerings FYI
$10.95 a year, for ea. additional one you want Andrew On 10/13/06 12:09 PM, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's the price tag on the deal? Andrew Sawyers wrote: Zone Edit offers DNS services on different continents for a small fee. We can easily support our requirements with little effort from these folks: ZoneEdit's basic service offers a pair of DNS servers with 24x7 monitoring and recovery on each server. Each server is located on a distinct and separately maintained network with a 99.9% uptime. With DNS, if any one server goes down, the other servers are used. Therefore, each nameserver you add to your domain greatly reduces the odds of an outage. For your most important domains, we highly reccomend using 3 or 4 DNS servers. We have never had a 3 server outage. We offer a 100% uptime guarantee for domains with four ZoneEdit nameservers. If you are already a ZoneEdit customer, you can log in, click on your most important domain, click Advanced, click Nameservers, and click Purchase an Extra Backup Nameserver. You can then choose the country and location of the new nameserver. If you are not using ZoneEdit's DNS, you can sign up to use our secondary DNS service. Our servers will be automatically synchronized with your primary servers, and are added to your domain as DNS backups. We offer up to 8 managed DNS networks in the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia. For your most important domains, use ZoneEdit's backup DNS. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Hi,great work!One correction, though. The membership agreement PDF states the associate member fee is $295, while http://foundation.zope.org/members/associate_members.html says the fee is only $95.Carlos de la GuardiaOn 10/12/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See:foundation.zope.orgThis is using Darryl's magic.It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it.Thanks Darryl andDavid from ZC.I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces fromDarryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Andrew Sawyers___Zope-web maillist-Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
--On 13. Oktober 2006 13:10:28 -0500 Carlos de la Guardia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, great work! One correction, though. The membership agreement PDF states the associate member fee is $295, while http://foundation.zope.org/members/associate_members.html says the fee is only $95. http://foundation.zope.org/members/committer_members.html The latest Docutils fixes strike back :-) -aj pgp4VhW568dpI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
RE: [Zope] How can I store session data to db on login/logoff events ?
Thank you Dieter, I see, but i dont't know why the session is empty. When the session will be deleted it is not contains the previously set variables (keys) by the user. Only the request object contains the authenticated user name, the container.session or item parameter contents the id, token values but the content keys is []. -Original Message- From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:54 PM To: Pletli Antal Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] How can I store session data to db on login/logoff events ? Pletli Antal wrote at 2006-10-12 08:50 +0200: But i have a problem with this: When I ran the test python script (see below) in Zope or I called the url directly from the browser , I got an error: Error Type: KeyError Error Value: 'SESSION' The session object is passed as a parameter to the script when session created and script when session deleted scripts. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Sending XML straight down to a zope
Jonathan wrote: As an alternative strategy, how about: i) set up a url just for this problem user ii) us apache rewrite to redirect to a non-zope cgi script iii) use the cgi script to 'fix' the xml iv) do a redirect with the fixed xml to a 'zope' url Being all Nu Skool about this, I wonder if there's a wsgi thingy that could help here? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] PUT_Factory equivalent for MKCOL?
Hi All, Is there an equivalent to the PUT_Factory for MKCOL? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Sending XML straight down to a zope
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:16:30PM +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Chris Withers wrote at 2006-10-12 08:35 +0100:
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
xml_content = open('validxmlfile.xml').read()
http = httplib.HTTP(localhost, 8080)
http.putrequest(POST, /uploadExpenseXML)
That's not really a valid transaction...
Why not?
The real problem is that Zope wrongfully assumes that each
POST with content type text/xml is an XML-RPC request.
That's wrong at least since XML is more widely used on the browser
side (e.g. XForms).
XML-RPC is not very helpful here. As usual, its extreme simplicity is
both a blessing and a curse.
The specification, http://www.xmlrpc.com/spec , specifies POST with
content-type of text/xml, and that's all; so you really can't
distinguish XML-RPC from any other xml POST just from the header.
I suppose the publisher could cheat a bit and look in the body for the
required methodCall element. If missing, it can't be XML-RPC.
It would be more reliable if some configuration was required to specify
when XMLRPC is expected, and when not. But that would break Zope's
longstanding promise that XMLRPC is supported for free, always,
automatically.
--
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Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows
michael nt milne said the following on 10/12/2006 01:33 PM: No I get your point. I just feel that anti-windows feeling has to be flagged up. If not it gets endemnic and hopefully occasional pointers will feed in organically. Ultimately in OSS though people will do what they want and that is also part of the value. Finally I don't think I am 'whining' on this. there is no anti-windows feeling, even if some people make snug remarks about windows. There is a lack of windows-savvy developers that have time and resources to maintain the windows builds. However, that is a totally different issue, and your attitude does not help. So, if there are some souls here on this list that are less than pleasant at times (yeah, you know who you are :-), then by all means show some class and do not try to behave like them. so, to repeat: there is no anti-windows conspiracy, just an unfortunate lack of windows-savvy developers (I'll have to add that can afford the ms development tools ;-). my 2 eurocents. Cheers, /dario -- -- --- Dario Lopez-Kästen, IT Systems Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming application design: emancipate yourself from mental slavery - redemption song, b. marley ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] how to set higher security for zope ftp
how to set higher security for zope ftp? I want people to upload but can't download, delete, replace any of the existing file.. how do I do that on zope ftp? Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: zope fork in external method
Pls keep your posts on the list - so that others can help and so that others can search for problems/solutions! - Original Message - From: Daniel Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: zope fork in external method Jonathan- I'm emailing you because I saw your post a few months back at: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2006-May/166574.html I've been doing my best to find answers on existing posts, but to no avail. Perhaps you can send further pointers? On my system, a user can hit a page that initiates a long database query. If the user hits the stop button and tries to refresh, it messes things up (by interrupting the code upon return of the query), so I came up with a solution that almost works: I put all the code into an external method, which forks. The parent returns a redirect to a waiting throbber page that uses Ajax to poll whether the query is done. The child then goes on to do the hard work. This is working as desired, with a single exception: zombie child processes. Where can I learn more about forking processes in zope external methods? I've read about the double-fork method, but that hasn't resolved the problem... A few ideas for reaping dead child processes: 1) implement a SIGCHLD handler 2) when a spawned child process is finished its 'zope processing' have it write its process id to a file (be careful when accessing files, you will need locking to eliminate problems that may be caused by zope's multiple threads) and then have a clean up routine which kills all of the processes listed in the file (this could be an independant clean-up routine which wakes up on a regular basis, or it could be built into the 'spawning' process which does the clean up before it spawns a child). 3) as the last thing it does, have the child process issue a kill -9 system command to kill its own process (I haven't tried this myself, but it may work and it would be simple to implement) Good luck! Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] how to set higher security for zope ftp
--On 13. Oktober 2006 07:41:34 -0700 Allen Huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how to set higher security for zope ftp? I want people to upload but can't download, delete, replace any of the existing file.. how do I do that on zope ftp? You might play around with the permissions for the corresponding folders. Basically I would try to revoke the permission to delete content. -aj pgplBiCERDbOM.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] How can I store session data to db on login/logoff events ?
Pletli Antal wrote at 2006-10-13 08:36 +0200: I see, but i dont't know why the session is empty. When the session will be deleted it is not contains the previously set variables (keys) by the user. Only the request object contains the authenticated user name, the container.session or item parameter contents the id, token values but the content keys is []. That is strange. As you can see Products.Transience.TransientObjectContainer._do_finalize_work the session is not cleared before the notifyDel. The real content might be in item._container which you can access with the TransientObjects mapping API (keys, values, items, ...) -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] PUT_Factory equivalent for MKCOL?
Chris Withers wrote at 2006-10-13 12:00 +0100: Is there an equivalent to the PUT_Factory for MKCOL? Yes, as you can see in webdav.NullResource.MKCOL: # Add hook for webdav/FTP MKCOL (Collector #2254) (needed for CMF) # parent.manage_addFolder(name) mkcol_handler = getattr(parent,'MKCOL_handler' ,parent.manage_addFolder) mkcol_handler(name) -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] how to set higher security for zope ftp
Allen Huang wrote at 2006-10-13 07:41 -0700: how to set higher security for zope ftp? I want people to upload but can't download, delete, replace any of the existing file.. how do I do that on zope ftp? The destructive FTP commands map to standard Zope methods: delete is mapped for example to manage_deleteObject. Do not give your Zope users the right to perform modifying operations and they will not be able to do it via FTP... -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope-DB] Pitfall: mxODBCZopeDA and test runner in 2.9+
Paul Winkler wrote: If you have mxODBCZopeDA and are using it with zope 2.9 or higher, a word of warning: You *must* use the -k option to the test runner when running tests in your INSTANCE_HOME. Example: ./bin/zopectl test -k If you fail to use -k, the zope test runner will delete bytecode for all your products - including mxODBCZopeDA, which has no .py files to fall back on. Ouch. I'll investigate further - there might be a bug to file against zope.testing. Why does the test runner delete .pyc files in directories it doesn't own ? .pyc files only change if you upgrade to a new Python version, so there doesn't seem to be a need for removing them in the first place. Python is also smart enough to detect updated .py files and regenerate .pyc files from them automatically (.pyc files have a timestamp builtin). -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 13 2006) Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! ___ Zope-DB mailing list Zope-DB@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-db
Re: [Zope-DB] Pitfall: mxODBCZopeDA and test runner in 2.9+
M.-A. Lemburg wrote: If you fail to use -k, the zope test runner will delete bytecode for all your products - including mxODBCZopeDA, which has no .py files to fall back on. Ouch. I'll investigate further - there might be a bug to file against zope.testing. Why does the test runner delete .pyc files in directories it doesn't own ? The common case used to be: 1. run tests in a checkout (generates .pyc's for each .py file imported) 2. svn up, which deletes a load of .py files 3. re-run tests, curse and swear that there are still .pyc files lying around that got imported, and you only noticed when your production environment broke, because you rebuild that out from scratch on upgrade ...so the autho-pyc-destructor was built ;-) I have to echo Jens' sentiments though: why not just ship .py files and be done with it? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-DB mailing list Zope-DB@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-db
Re: [Zope-DB] Pitfall: mxODBCZopeDA and test runner in 2.9+
On Oct 13, 2006, at 5:14 AM, Chris Withers wrote: I have to echo Jens' sentiments though: why not just ship .py files and be done with it? If I had to make a wild-ass guess, its because there's an indication that the mxodbc code would be misappropriated and proliferated outside of the control of the authors, a circumstance which they desire to avoid. The alternative of shipping .pyc files (and still not letting source out the door) is to spend lots of time coming up with ways to pack source into .pyd files, which would be very clumsy. None of it actually prevents someone who knows the python internals from yanking source (or reconstructed source) back out, but it goes a long way to prevent those folks from saying oh, well, all software *should* be free -- so I'll just delete this little licensing routine right here *snip* ta-da, I'm pleased to announce free-mxodbc to the world Actually I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to redistribute misappropriated code, but there ARE a lot of individuals out there whose sense of entitlement exceeds their common sense. I'm sure e- genix would be happy to release the source for a big enough lump sum to pay off their expected future licensing revenue, but in the interim their business model requires people to pay as they go. And since their charges are about the equivalent of a nice night out at an upscale restaurant (or a few passes through McDonalds with a minivan full of kids) I can't see anyone investing the time to write a replacement. ___ Zope-DB mailing list Zope-DB@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-db
Re: [Zope-DB] Pitfall: mxODBCZopeDA and test runner in 2.9+
Chris Withers wrote: M.-A. Lemburg wrote: If you fail to use -k, the zope test runner will delete bytecode for all your products - including mxODBCZopeDA, which has no .py files to fall back on. Ouch. I'll investigate further - there might be a bug to file against zope.testing. Why does the test runner delete .pyc files in directories it doesn't own ? The common case used to be: 1. run tests in a checkout (generates .pyc's for each .py file imported) 2. svn up, which deletes a load of .py files 3. re-run tests, curse and swear that there are still .pyc files lying around that got imported, and you only noticed when your production environment broke, because you rebuild that out from scratch on upgrade ...so the autho-pyc-destructor was built ;-) Sounds like a developer setup :-) For those I do have a solution: chown root.zope .../Products/mxODBCZopeDA chmod 750 .../Products/mxODBCZopeDA (provided zope is the group of the Zope daemon) That way you prevent deletions in the product directory by any user other than root. I have to echo Jens' sentiments though: why not just ship .py files and be done with it? See my reply to Jens. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 13 2006) Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! ___ Zope-DB mailing list Zope-DB@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-db
