Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-05-31 Thread Joachim Schmitz

Joachim Schmitz schrieb:


I could reproduce the conflict error on my local machine not using ZEO.

I invoked the longrunning process create_level for two users after a 
zope-restart.

here is the log:

2007-05-31 09:44:24 INFO Zope Ready to handle requests

2007-05-31 09:44:39 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 started to create 
level 200
2007-05-31 09:44:41 INFO Skins.create_level Y617041 started to create 
level 400

the next two entries are printed before the redirect/commit
2007-05-31 09:45:01 INFO Skins.create_level Y617041 finished to create 
level 400
2007-05-31 09:45:06 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 finished to create 
level 200
Now the conflict error, look at the transaction start-time, this is 
before the restart of zope !!


2007-05-31 09:45:25 INFO ZPublisher.Conflict ConflictError at 
/uniben/campus/students/A923157/study_course/create_level: database 
conflict error (oid 0x3360e3, class BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket, serial 
this txn started with 0x036dfd7c73dfc1dd 2007-05-31 07:24:27.157981, 
serial currently committed 0x036dfd9131112455 2007-05-31 
07:45:11.500069) (1 conflicts (0 unresolved) since startup at Thu May 31 
09:44:24 2007)


now this is retried for A923157

2007-05-31 09:45:26 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 started to create 
level 200
2007-05-31 09:45:45 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 finished to create 
level 200


I deleted the created objects and repeated the test:

2007-05-31 12:46:12 ERROR Zope.ZCatalog uncatalogObject unsuccessfully 
attempted to uncatalog an object with a uid of 
/uniben/campus/students/A923157/study_course/200/ZOO213.
2007-05-31 12:47:05 INFO Skins.create_level Y617041 started to create 
level 400
2007-05-31 12:47:14 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 started to create 
level 200
2007-05-31 12:47:25 INFO Skins.create_level Y617041 finished to create 
level 400
2007-05-31 12:47:40 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 finished to create 
level 200
2007-05-31 12:47:58 INFO ZPublisher.Conflict ConflictError at 
/uniben/campus/students/A923157/study_course/create_level: database 
conflict error (oid 0x3647b0, class BTrees._IOBTree.IOBucket, serial 
this txn started with 0x036dfe463486d955 2007-05-31 10:46:12.310958, 
serial currently committed 0x036dfe479a5725cc 2007-05-31 
10:47:36.173536) (3 conflicts (0 unresolved) since startup at Thu May 31 
09:44:24 2007)


again the txn starttime is that of an older transaction, and it is the 
time of the uncatalog entry.


If I invoke the create_level only for one student, no conflict-error occurs.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-05-31 Thread Maciej Wisniowski


 I deleted the created objects and repeated the test:

 2007-05-31 12:46:12 ERROR Zope.ZCatalog uncatalogObject unsuccessfully
 attempted to uncatalog an object with a uid of
 /uniben/campus/students/A923157/study_course/200/ZOO213.
 2007-05-31 12:47:05 INFO Skins.create_level Y617041 started to create
 level 400
 2007-05-31 12:47:14 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 started to create
 level 200
 2007-05-31 12:47:25 INFO Skins.create_level Y617041 finished to create
 level 400
 2007-05-31 12:47:40 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 finished to create
 level 200
 2007-05-31 12:47:58 INFO ZPublisher.Conflict ConflictError at
 /uniben/campus/students/A923157/study_course/create_level: database
 conflict error (oid 0x3647b0, class BTrees._IOBTree.IOBucket, serial
 this txn started with 0x036dfe463486d955 2007-05-31 10:46:12.310958,
 serial currently committed 0x036dfe479a5725cc 2007-05-31
 10:47:36.173536) (3 conflicts (0 unresolved) since startup at Thu May
 31 09:44:24 2007)

 again the txn starttime is that of an older transaction, and it is the
 time of the uncatalog entry.

 If I invoke the create_level only for one student, no conflict-error
 occurs.
I've checked my logs for conflict errors with session machinery. I also had
times earlier than zope startup:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2007-April/029244.html

I don't know why...

Maybe your problem is simply that 'create_level' does
something with Catalog (as Tres Seaver suggested).

If so, then if one transaction changes it
then second transaction raises conflict.

With sessions I had problems with OOBTree not IOBTree.

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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2007-05-31 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Wed May 30 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Thu May 31 12:00:00 2007 UTC.
There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests.


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed May 30 20:52:11 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-May/007809.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed May 30 20:53:42 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-May/007810.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed May 30 20:55:13 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-May/007811.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed May 30 20:56:46 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-May/007812.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed May 30 20:58:17 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-May/007813.html

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[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-05-31 Thread Dieter Maurer
Joachim Schmitz wrote at 2007-5-31 12:07 +0200:
 ...
2007-05-31 09:45:06 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 finished to create 
level 200
Now the conflict error, look at the transaction start-time, this is 
before the restart of zope !!

You are probably tricked out here: the serials are in fact UTC timestamps.
I am not sure but it may well be that the times shown for the serials
are UTC (GMT +0) and not local times.



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[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-05-31 Thread Perry

Dieter Maurer schrieb:

Joachim Schmitz wrote at 2007-5-31 12:07 +0200:

...
2007-05-31 09:45:06 INFO Skins.create_level A923157 finished to create 
level 200
Now the conflict error, look at the transaction start-time, this is 
before the restart of zope !!





You are probably tricked out here: the serials are in fact UTC timestamps.
I am not sure but it may well be that the times shown for the serials
are UTC (GMT +0) and not local times.


I added 2 hours to the txn times and only looked at minutes.

so the observation is still true.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-05-31 Thread Joachim Schmitz

Hi,

I was able to locate the places in the Zope-sources where the conflict 
error is triggered. On my local system it's in


ZODB.FileStorage in the store-method there is

if serial != cached_tid:
   rdata = self.tryToResolveConflict(oid, cached_tid,serial, data)

in the tryToResolveConflict method of ZODB.ConnflictResolution there is:

committed = state(self, oid, committedSerial, prfactory, committedData)
print resolve, resolve
resolved = resolve(old, committed, newstate)

I found that the resolve-function raises an ConflictError exception, so 
I put an print there to find out which resolve function. Here is the output:


resolve bound method Length._p_resolveConflict of BTrees.Length.Length 
object at 0xb28fff6c
resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket 
object at 0xb1b81224
resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket 
object at 0xb1b81224
resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket 
object at 0xb260c80c
resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket 
object at 0xb260c614
resolve bound method Length._p_resolveConflict of BTrees.Length.Length 
object at 0xb2a9146c
resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._IOBTree.IOBucket 
object at 0xb1b81224


The last resolve raises an exeption

(Pdb) p sys.exc_info()
(class ZODB.POSException.BTreesConflictError at 0xb78df0bc, 
BTreesConflictError(-1, 47, 47, 6), traceback object at 0xb1c34dec)


How can I invest this further, especially how can I get information 
about the actual object,which is causing the conflict.



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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-05-31 Thread Maciej Wisniowski
 
 resolve bound method Length._p_resolveConflict of BTrees.Length.Length
 object at 0xb28fff6c
 resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket
 object at 0xb1b81224
 resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket
 object at 0xb1b81224
 resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket
 object at 0xb260c80c
 resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._OIBTree.OIBucket
 object at 0xb260c614
 resolve bound method Length._p_resolveConflict of BTrees.Length.Length
 object at 0xb2a9146c
 resolve built-in method _p_resolveConflict of BTrees._IOBTree.IOBucket
 object at 0xb1b81224
 
 The last resolve raises an exeption
 
 (Pdb) p sys.exc_info()
 (class ZODB.POSException.BTreesConflictError at 0xb78df0bc,
 BTreesConflictError(-1, 47, 47, 6), traceback object at 0xb1c34dec)
Length, IOBucket and such things seems to me to be related to session
machinery. What timeout and resolution times you have now? Also try if
there are differences when you try to call your methods just after zope
restart and after few different calls to get session objects created.

 How can I invest this further, especially how can I get information
 about the actual object,which is causing the conflict.
http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1054240694
Maybe this will help. Take a look at comments on this page.

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Re: [Zope] Re: MemoryError exception when importing a zexp file

2007-05-31 Thread Sascha Welter
(Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:31:31AM +0100) Ben Lobo wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
 Thanks for the tip. I tried increasing the swap file to 10GB but still got
 the same memory error.

Some operating systems limit the amount of RAM a single process can
consume. Sometimes that amount can be adjusted. Also 32bit systems can
only use a limited amount of RAM per process due to the limit of what
you can address with 32bits -- over that amount you can give the system
100GB or 1000GB of swap, it won't change a thing. Even if those do not
apply, I guess it's very much possible for a process to eat up all the
RAM, no matter how much that is, all it would need is a little bit of
recursion.

 I'm now considering exporting the Plone site (cos that's what it is) one
 piece at a time and reimporting it into a clean Plone site. Any thoughts on
 whether or not this is a good idea?

Not mentioning Plone in the first place is problematic. In fact *plone*
is problematic. Did you verify with plohn people (e.g. on a Plone
mailing list) that current plone versions can be imported/exported?
(Because the last time I made the mistake to do a project with
plone you couldn't import/export a plone site -- or rename it, move it
to another instance or anything similar for that matter -- without major
pain. It's been a while though, so things could have changed.)
Summary: Go and ask the plone people, if you can't import anyway, the
whole exercise is in vain.

Good luck!

Regards,

Sascha

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[Zope] Re: Function reindexObject()

2007-05-31 Thread julian

Thanks ;) but it's no really what I want sorry

I work like that :
__
|ZMI(zope 2.7)|
| |
|Product : Document, my_product...| Export script
| |-- A file with all data
|_|of product (text)

   |
   |
   |
   Import script   |
|ZMI(zope2.9)  |---
|Product : Document,.. |   (reindexObject)
|  |
|__|


So, the export script copy all data of a product in a text file (whit 
accessor : getID,etTitle, getText...). Each line of this file is the 
datas of a product, next lines are other products.


The import script run very well, I transform each line of the text file 
to a correspondant product as zope2.7. But I want put each new product 
in the same repertory as zope 2.7. So how say to each product in my 
import script where it must be copy.


This import script:
-
 id = self.generateUniqueId('J_product')
 self.invokeFactory('J_product', id)
 mct = getattr(self, id)

 mct.setTitle(row[1])
 mct.setJ_product_descriptif(row[2])
 mct.setJ_product_web(row[3])

 ## add images ##
 im = recup_image(mesimages,compteur,)
 if im != 'no_image':
   mct.setJ_product_image(im)

 self.portal_workflow.doActionFor(mct,publish, comment=)
 self.reindexObject()


My subject is reindexObject because I think it's this function that put 
the new Object (product) in ZMI. I don't know :s


Maybe I should make a line like that : 
mct.setDirectory(/SITES/plone_mySite/repertory1/)


repertory1 is where I want put the object (I have in my text file 
generated with export script, the url of each product).




So, It's nothing if nobody understand ;) but I would like.

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[Zope] Re: Function reindexObject()

2007-05-31 Thread julian
Maybe I can cut and paste each product(object) from /SITES/Plone_site/ 
to /SITES/Plone_site/goodDirectory


But I don't find how cut and paste an object in zope with a python script.

Could you help me :)

Tahnks
Julian

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Re: [Zope] Re: Function reindexObject()

2007-05-31 Thread Maciej Wisniowski

 The import script run very well, I transform each line of the text
 file to a correspondant product as zope2.7. But I want put each new
 product in the same repertory as zope 2.7. So how say to each product
 in my import script where it must be copy.
Why don't you just export object path along
with it's data? use |getPhysicalPath() for example.
Take a look at http://plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/AppendixB.stx#2-396 for
description.
Also consider use of restrictedTraverse to get access to object that you
will
add newly created objects to (during import).

Sth like:
container = self.|restrictedTraverse('/SITES/plone_mySite/repertory1/)
container.invokeFactory

Or something like that.
 My subject is reindexObject because I think it's this function that
 put the new Object (product) in ZMI. I don't know :s
AFAIK reindexObject is used to reindex object in Catalog.
invokeFactory puts new object of the specific type to ZMI.

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[Zope] Re: Re: MemoryError exception when importing a zexp file

2007-05-31 Thread Ben Lobo
  I'm now considering exporting the Plone site (cos that's what it is) one
  piece at a time and reimporting it into a clean Plone site. Any thoughts
on
  whether or not this is a good idea?

 Not mentioning Plone in the first place is problematic. In fact *plone*
 is problematic. Did you verify with plohn people (e.g. on a Plone
 mailing list) that current plone versions can be imported/exported?
 (Because the last time I made the mistake to do a project with
 plone you couldn't import/export a plone site -- or rename it, move it
 to another instance or anything similar for that matter -- without major
 pain. It's been a while though, so things could have changed.)
 Summary: Go and ask the plone people, if you can't import anyway, the
 whole exercise is in vain.


I've happily moved, renamed, exported and imported Plone sites, both within
a single zope instance and between separate instances on many occasions so I
don't think Plone is the problem. The only difference in this case is the
size of the Plone site and the amount of RAM it seems to want to use.

I'm not much of an expert on diagnosing and managing memory problems so I'm
not sure how to check things like where the import failed other than by
looking at Windows task manager (it's Windows 2003 server). If there are any
OS limitations on memory usage, it's only what would normally be set up on a
standard Windows installation.

Someone in this thread asked why I'm doing this export in the first place: I
want to import it back into zope but into a separate storage file so that I
can back it up separately from the main storage. Someone suggested that I
might be able to do it by copying the entire Data.fs file to the new strage
location, restarting zope and then deleting the bits that I don't want
instead of exporting then importing.

I tried this but it didn't work unfortunately. The new mount point just
appeared in the zmi root with a broken icon and gave me an 'unsubscriptable
object type error when I tried to access it.

Any further tips would be gratefully welcomed.

Cheers

Ben



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Re: [Zope] Re: Re: MemoryError exception when importing a zexp file

2007-05-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

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On 31 May 2007, at 13:56, Ben Lobo wrote:
Someone in this thread asked why I'm doing this export in the first  
place: I
want to import it back into zope but into a separate storage file  
so that I
can back it up separately from the main storage. Someone suggested  
that I
might be able to do it by copying the entire Data.fs file to the  
new strage

location, restarting zope and then deleting the bits that I don't want
instead of exporting then importing.

I tried this but it didn't work unfortunately. The new mount point  
just
appeared in the zmi root with a broken icon and gave me an  
'unsubscriptable

object type error when I tried to access it.


Good that I asked. That's not a valid reason to do import/export.

As the other person mentioned, you should copy the database and do it  
that way. If you run into problems that way you need to post useful  
error messages (meaning, something better than didn't work) and  
paste the full error traceback and all symptoms.


jens



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[Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Jon Emmons
I am using zope 2.9, python 3.4.  when I have a bug in my python I get
Uncaptured Python Exception coming from zope.

 

This is a nightmare.  I have spent hours trying to trace down the simplest
typos that would have been instantly reported in any other development
environment.

 

How do I get zope to Capture these exceptions?  I just want to know what
line the error occurred in!  Anything at all would be helpful!

 

Do I need a different version of zope or python?  Perhaps a python module?

 

Jon

 

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Re: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Jonathan


- Original Message - 
From: Jon Emmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: zope@zope.org
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:58 AM
Subject: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception



I am using zope 2.9, python 3.4.  when I have a bug in my python I get
Uncaptured Python Exception coming from zope.

This is a nightmare.  I have spent hours trying to trace down the simplest
typos that would have been instantly reported in any other development
environment.

How do I get zope to Capture these exceptions?  I just want to know what
line the error occurred in!  Anything at all would be helpful!

Do I need a different version of zope or python?  Perhaps a python module?


Zope 2.9.x requires python 2.4.2 or 2.4.3


Jonathan 


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RE: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Jon Emmons
Oops, my bad.

Python is 2.4.4. (not 3.4)  perhaps my python needs to be moved back a bit.

I don't get any error in the error log from the zope admin, just this
cryptic msg from the window that zope is running in.

2007-05-31 09:48:49 ERROR ZServer uncaptured python exception, closing
channel ZServer.HTTPServer.zhttp_channel connected 206.246.160.45:20916 at
-0x49709f74 channel#: 202 requests: (socket.error:(104, 'Connection reset
by peer') [/usr/local/lib/python2.4/asynchat.py|initiate_send|219]
[/home/zope/zope/lib/python/ZServer/medusa/http_server.py|send|417]
[/usr/local/lib/python2.4/asyncore.py|send|332])



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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:07 AM
To: Jon Emmons; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception


- Original Message - 
From: Jon Emmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: zope@zope.org
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:58 AM
Subject: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception


I am using zope 2.9, python 3.4.  when I have a bug in my python I get
 Uncaptured Python Exception coming from zope.

 This is a nightmare.  I have spent hours trying to trace down the simplest
 typos that would have been instantly reported in any other development
 environment.

 How do I get zope to Capture these exceptions?  I just want to know what
 line the error occurred in!  Anything at all would be helpful!

 Do I need a different version of zope or python?  Perhaps a python module?

Zope 2.9.x requires python 2.4.2 or 2.4.3


Jonathan 

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Re: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Martijn Pieters

On 5/31/07, Jon Emmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't get any error in the error log from the zope admin, just this
cryptic msg from the window that zope is running in.

2007-05-31 09:48:49 ERROR ZServer uncaptured python exception, closing
channel ZServer.HTTPServer.zhttp_channel connected 206.246.160.45:20916 at
-0x49709f74 channel#: 202 requests: (socket.error:(104, 'Connection reset
by peer') [/usr/local/lib/python2.4/asynchat.py|initiate_send|219]
[/home/zope/zope/lib/python/ZServer/medusa/http_server.py|send|417]
[/usr/local/lib/python2.4/asyncore.py|send|332])


This just means that the browser disconnected before the request was
completely sent. In other words, the user used the Stop button.
Nothing to worry about.

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RE: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Jon Emmons
Thanks all for your help.

I guess I was worried about nothing.  Previous versions of zope did not
generate those messages.

I thought it was why I was getting no zope error at all with runtime errors.

I still don't know why python errors will just quietly cause things to fail
with no zope error at all.  Nothing...  That may be something I just have to
live with.  Very difficult to debug and develop with though.

Syntax errors I can find by simply importing the external method into the
python interpreter.  But dealing with the form variables, I will often have
runtime errors that give no message at all.

So I find myself putting little I am here print messaged throughout my
code to try to zone in on where I mistyped the variable equipment_num as
equipment_mun.

Jon

-Original Message-
From: Andreas Jung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:25 AM
To: Jon Emmons; 'Jonathan'; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception



--On 31. Mai 2007 10:12:35 -0400 Jon Emmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Oops, my bad.

 Python is 2.4.4. (not 3.4)  perhaps my python needs to be moved back a
 bit.

 I don't get any error in the error log from the zope admin, just this
 cryptic msg from the window that zope is running in.

 2007-05-31 09:48:49 ERROR ZServer uncaptured python exception, closing
 channel ZServer.HTTPServer.zhttp_channel connected 206.246.160.45:20916
 at -0x49709f74 channel#: 202 requests: (socket.error:(104, 'Connection
 reset by peer') [/usr/local/lib/python2.4/asynchat.py|initiate_send|219]
 [/home/zope/zope/lib/python/ZServer/medusa/http_server.py|send|417]
 [/usr/local/lib/python2.4/asyncore.py|send|332])


This indicates that the client closed the connection before completing
the request. Not a Zope issue - it's in fact no issue.

-aj

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Re: [Zope] Re: MemoryError exception when importing a zexp file

2007-05-31 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:55:26AM +0200, Sascha Welter wrote:
 ... Did you verify with plohn people (e.g. on a Plone
 mailing list) that current plone versions can be imported/exported?
 (Because the last time I made the mistake to do a project with
 plone you couldn't import/export a plone site -- or rename it, move it
 to another instance or anything similar for that matter -- without major
 pain. It's been a while though, so things could have changed.)

I spent several hours recently to import a .zexp of a Plone 2.0 site.
Got nowhere.

One suggestion I got (which I wasn't able to follow) was the
following.  If you have access to the original server, try this:

1) Make a full backup of the entire ZODB, eg. using repozo.py.
2) Set up a new Zope instance with all the same products installed,
using your new backup copy of the ZODB.
3) Go into the ZMI for this new instance, and delete everythign EXCEPT this
plone site.
4) Pack the database to get rid of all the other stuff.  Or make a new
clean backup.

There. You now have a Data.fs that contains only your Plone site.
Instead of importing the .zexp, just mount the database at the
appropriate path.

Disclaimer: I haven't tried this yet.

 Summary: Go and ask the plone people, if you can't import anyway, the
 whole exercise is in vain.

+1

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RE: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 31. Mai 2007 11:06:17 -0400 Jon Emmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Thanks all for your help.

I guess I was worried about nothing.  Previous versions of zope did not
generate those messages.


Nonsense. Such error messages are shown by Zope since ages.



I thought it was why I was getting no zope error at all with runtime
errors.

I still don't know why python errors will just quietly cause things to
fail with no zope error at all.  Nothing...  That may be something I just
have to live with.  Very difficult to debug and develop with though.



What's the point? There is nothing to worry about. Your client closes
the connection and Zope reacts with throwing an exception. There is nothing 
else Zope could do - either you catch the exception and swallow it or it 
won't catch the exception...so what's your *real* problem with the behavior?


-aj



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Re: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Jonathan


- Original Message - 
From: Jon Emmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Andreas Jung' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
zope@zope.org

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception


I still don't know why python errors will just quietly cause things to 
fail
with no zope error at all.  Nothing...  That may be something I just have 
to

live with.  Very difficult to debug and develop with though.

Syntax errors I can find by simply importing the external method into the
python interpreter.


Syntax errors for external methods can also be found by clicking on the 
'Save Changes' button of the external method object when in the ZMI.




 But dealing with the form variables, I will often have
runtime errors that give no message at all.

So I find myself putting little I am here print messaged throughout my
code to try to zone in on where I mistyped the variable equipment_num as
equipment_mun.


Referring to non-existent python variables (eg. the mistyping you described 
above) should raise a KeyError.  Do you have any try/except statements in 
your external method which may be capturing the errors?



Jonathan

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RE: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Jon Emmons
Sometimes, I do get those errors.

But if I take a working piece of python and stick in a sabotage statement
like:

Var1 = var2

Where var2 is undefined (i.e. has never been assigned anything)

Just silent failure.  No error.

Jon


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:15 AM
To: Jon Emmons; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception


- Original Message - 
From: Jon Emmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Andreas Jung' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
zope@zope.org
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception


 I still don't know why python errors will just quietly cause things to 
 fail
 with no zope error at all.  Nothing...  That may be something I just have 
 to
 live with.  Very difficult to debug and develop with though.

 Syntax errors I can find by simply importing the external method into the
 python interpreter.

Syntax errors for external methods can also be found by clicking on the 
'Save Changes' button of the external method object when in the ZMI.


  But dealing with the form variables, I will often have
 runtime errors that give no message at all.

 So I find myself putting little I am here print messaged throughout my
 code to try to zone in on where I mistyped the variable equipment_num as
 equipment_mun.

Referring to non-existent python variables (eg. the mistyping you described 
above) should raise a KeyError.  Do you have any try/except statements in 
your external method which may be capturing the errors?


Jonathan

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[Zope] Re: Function reindexObject()

2007-05-31 Thread julian

Very thanks !!! :)

It's exactly the good method, thanks

Julian

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Re: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Maciej Wisniowski
 Var1 = var2
 
 Where var2 is undefined (i.e. has never been assigned anything)
 
 Just silent failure.  No error.
So how do you know there is a failure then?
There is really nothing in event.log and nothing in error_log?

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Re: [Zope] a batch of inSaNitY!

2007-05-31 Thread SpiderX

I just use Adobe Labs Spry Framework... this effectively puts the paging in
javascript.

On 5/31/07, Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Jonathan,

I have something similar to your idea already. The python script
supplies page number to a stored procedure which handles the actual
paging. The script takes the result from the proc and builds an html
table and handles column sorting on the table. The output of the script
is just a single variable so I can just use dtml-var instead of the
flaky dtml-in.
Problem I have now is this new search interface makes use of full-text
searching on SQL Server 2K. The paging proc wasn't written to handle it
and will need to be rewritten from scratch. This will take a lot of time
and testing. I thought I could slap something simple and fast together
to use in the interim to allow people to start testing the search
engine.

I really do wish Zope would either fix or eliminate broken features. At
the very least have the curtesy to say hey y'all, this is broke, don't
bother so folks don't waste time with it.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:22 PM
To: Programmer; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] a batch of inSaNitY!


- Original Message -
From: Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: zope@zope.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: [Zope] a batch of inSaNitY!


 Hi

 I am about to go stark, raving, frothing mad with the DTML-IN
batching.
 Is there a known (or unknown) bug with this?

 I have searched and read everything I can find about this and no luck.
 The problem is with carrying the query terms over from one batch page
to
 the next. Right now I am using the script found here:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-collector-monitor/2003-May/002001.ht
 ml

 Except I changed,

 dtml-let
  batch=_.range(100, 180)
  batch_size=10
  batch_start=REQUEST.get('batch_start',1)

 To

 dtml-let
  batch=myZSQLMethod1
  batch_size=10
  batch_start=REQUEST.get('batch_start',1)

 The mySQLMethod1 takes two params which the search form supplies to
 REQUEST. This works great. The pagination works beautifully. However,
 when I use the very same result script with myZSQLMethod2 (same DB
 table), which takes 5 params (all optional) the pagination breaks and
 no-longer passes the query terms.
 I have checked and rechecked both scripts and both forms. The
 ZSQLMethods both test good. I am out of ideas. For the life of me I
 cannot figure out why I'm losing my query terms in one and not the
other
 when the two are almost identical.
 Care to enlighten me with your collective wisdom?

In similar situations I have done the following:

1) call a python script/external method which: (i) does the db search;
(ii)
formats the results as required for display; (iii) returns a tuple that
contains: list of search results, url parameters for 'previous' link;
url
parameters for 'next' link; url parameters for 'first link'; url
parameters
for 'last' link

2) use a dtml method to call the script/ext.method like

dtml-let rStat=mySearchRoutine(parm1, parm1, ...)

  dtml-in rStat[0]
  display code here eg.  dtml-var sequence-itembr
  or could be an html/css table, etc.

 dtml-if sequence-end
 a href=...?dtml-var rStat[1]previous/a
 a href=...?dtml-var rStat[2]next/a
 a href=...?dtml-var rStat[3]first/a
 a href=...?dtml-var rStat[4]last/a
  /dtml-if

  /dtml-in
/dtml-let

This greatly simplifies the dtml and facilitates debugging and future
modifications.

hth

Jonathan

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[Zope] Re: Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Tres Seaver
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Jon Emmons wrote:
 Sometimes, I do get those errors.
 
 But if I take a working piece of python and stick in a sabotage statement
 like:
 
 Var1 = var2
 
 Where var2 is undefined (i.e. has never been assigned anything)
 
 Just silent failure.  No error.

Sorry, but without a full recipe to reproduce this, I don't believe you;
 Zope raises exceptions just fine, and catches them itself only at the
publisher layer, where they get rendered into a standard error message,
as well as being dumped to the 'error_log' object.  The effect you
describe would only occur if some piece of application code (your
script, or something that calls it) were swallowing the exception with a
'try: ... except: pass' (or similar).

I would need to see the entire text of your script, plus whether this is
a PythonScript, an ExternalMethod, or some bit of filesystem product
code.  I would also need to know what version of Zope and Python you are
using.


Tres.
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RE: [Zope] a batch of inSaNitY!

2007-05-31 Thread Programmer
You know I had considered using JS for dealing with this. It does make
it much easier to change the CSS on your links to indicate current page
and such. I might look into this again. Thanks!



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
SpiderX
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:25 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] a batch of inSaNitY!


I just use Adobe Labs Spry Framework... this effectively puts the paging
in javascript.


On 5/31/07, Programmer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

Hi Jonathan,

I have something similar to your idea already. The python script

supplies page number to a stored procedure which handles the
actual
paging. The script takes the result from the proc and builds an
html
table and handles column sorting on the table. The output of the
script
is just a single variable so I can just use dtml-var instead of
the
flaky dtml-in.
Problem I have now is this new search interface makes use of
full-text
searching on SQL Server 2K. The paging proc wasn't written to
handle it 
and will need to be rewritten from scratch. This will take a lot
of time
and testing. I thought I could slap something simple and fast
together
to use in the interim to allow people to start testing the
search
engine.

I really do wish Zope would either fix or eliminate broken
features. At
the very least have the curtesy to say hey y'all, this is
broke, don't
bother so folks don't waste time with it. 

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:22 PM
To: Programmer; zope@zope.org 
Subject: Re: [Zope] a batch of inSaNitY!


- Original Message -
From: Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  zope@zope.org mailto:zope@zope.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: [Zope] a batch of inSaNitY!


 Hi

 I am about to go stark, raving, frothing mad with the DTML-IN
batching.
 Is there a known (or unknown) bug with this? 

 I have searched and read everything I can find about this and
no luck.
 The problem is with carrying the query terms over from one
batch page
to
 the next. Right now I am using the script found here: 


http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-collector-monitor/2003-May/002001.ht
 ml

 Except I changed,
 
 dtml-let
  batch=_.range(100, 180)
  batch_size=10
  batch_start=REQUEST.get('batch_start',1)

 To

 dtml-let 
  batch=myZSQLMethod1
  batch_size=10
  batch_start=REQUEST.get('batch_start',1)

 The mySQLMethod1 takes two params which the search form
supplies to 
 REQUEST. This works great. The pagination works beautifully.
However,
 when I use the very same result script with myZSQLMethod2
(same DB
 table), which takes 5 params (all optional) the pagination
breaks and 
 no-longer passes the query terms.
 I have checked and rechecked both scripts and both forms. The
 ZSQLMethods both test good. I am out of ideas. For the life of
me I
 cannot figure out why I'm losing my query terms in one and not
the 
other
 when the two are almost identical.
 Care to enlighten me with your collective wisdom?

In similar situations I have done the following:

1) call a python script/external method which: (i) does the db
search; 
(ii)
formats the results as required for display; (iii) returns a
tuple that
contains: list of search results, url parameters for 'previous'
link;
url
parameters for 'next' link; url parameters for 'first link'; url

parameters
for 'last' link

2) use a dtml method to call the script/ext.method like

dtml-let rStat=mySearchRoutine(parm1, parm1, ...)

  dtml-in rStat[0] 
  display code here eg.  dtml-var sequence-itembr
  or could be an html/css table, etc.

 dtml-if sequence-end
 a href=...?dtml-var rStat[1]previous/a 
 a href=...?dtml-var rStat[2]next/a
 a href=...?dtml-var rStat[3]first/a
 a href=...?dtml-var rStat[4]last/a 
  /dtml-if

  /dtml-in
/dtml-let

This greatly simplifies the dtml and facilitates debugging and
future
modifications.

hth

Jonathan

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Re: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread SpiderX

The example 'var1 = var2' should cause the NameError exception.
NameError: name 'var2' is not defined

You might want to check your 'error log' objects for the error messages. If
you don't have an error log object, it might be a good idea to create one.

On 5/31/07, Maciej Wisniowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Var1 = var2

 Where var2 is undefined (i.e. has never been assigned anything)

 Just silent failure.  No error.
So how do you know there is a failure then?
There is really nothing in event.log and nothing in error_log?

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Re: [Zope] Function reindexObject()

2007-05-31 Thread Dieter Maurer
julian wrote at 2007-5-30 18:00 +0200:
 ...
I have made some python scripts to export data of some zope2.7 products 
in text file, and I have made some scripts to import theses data to 
rebuild products in zope2.9. Theses scripts run very well.

But my problem is that all product that is rebuilt are in 
/SITES/plone_mySite/
I want rebuil all product in zope2.9 in the same directory as zope 2.7. 
I have the same structure for zope 2.7 and zope 2.9.

My Import script
-
  id = self.generateUniqueId('J_product')
  self.invokeFactory('J_product', id)

This self controls where the new object is created.

More precisely: obj.invokeFactory will create the new object
in obj (provided obj has a method invokeFactory, if not
invokeFactory may be acquired and the new object created in the
object, invokeFactory was acquired from).



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RE: [Zope] Uncaptured python exception

2007-05-31 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jon Emmons wrote at 2007-5-31 11:06 -0400:
 ...
I still don't know why python errors will just quietly cause things to fail
with no zope error at all.  Nothing...  That may be something I just have to
live with.  Very difficult to debug and develop with though.

This is a *very* unusual behaviour of Zope. I have never seen it (or
heard about it before your post).

I know of only a single problem where Zope does not reliably report
problems: when a product cannot be imported during startup,
then the only hint may be in Zope's logfile -- especially, the
product may not seem to be broken in Control_Panel -- Product management.

But that is definitely not your problem.

Syntax errors I can find by simply importing the external method into the
python interpreter.  But dealing with the form variables, I will often have
runtime errors that give no message at all.

I fear somehow you have screwed up your Zope.
It behaves differently from how we know it.


To be sure: you look into the error_log object in the ZMI,
have removed any exceptions to be ignored and nevertheless
do not see any error log messages there?



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[Zope] spam

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  I have received and blocked 284 unsliced emails all from different zope based 
email addresses. 
  Please remove me from your computers.
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RE: [Zope] a batch of inSaNitY!

2007-05-31 Thread Programmer
This is curious...

The problem I had with the searchterms not getting carried across pages
seems to have gone away. Here's what I changed. The two search forms are
separate dtml-methods and still are but I've included them into the main
page template like I originally planned. Something like this:

html
body
div
dtml-var form1
/div
div
dtml-var form2
/div
etc. etc.

When the template is rendered both forms are rendered also. Except now
nothing breaks. The result page dtml scripts are still the same. I'm
scratching my head...

At least people can test the search facility while a more permanent
python + AJAX interfaces are built.
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