[313] The Rebirth of Metrotechno

2002-03-06 Thread Phonopsia
Sorry for the SPAM. If anyone would like to be included in our Mid-Atlantic techno list (launching soon), please let me know and I'll get you sub'd for the launch. We'll have at least one very 313-friendly lineup soon. We are proud to announce a new Saturday night event at The Abyss (the former

[313] Record stores in Detroit?

2002-03-06 Thread Matthew Cloney
Hey All, I was born and raised in 313, but have since moved away. When I was home visiting in December last year, the buzz I got was that there were really only a few record stores, and two of them were the Recordtime stores I went to. While I thought they were ok, I'm looking for something

[313] - 313 Living....

2002-03-06 Thread Mark S Flintoft
Hey 313ers familiar with day to day life in the D... I am considering a move (January 2003) to the to hopefully finish my undergrad degree for good, and to work on music. Any information on schools and jobs, as well as any and all advice is welcome. Thanks in advance... m* Upcomming gigs...

Re: [313] so very. very far OT... m300

2002-03-06 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:30 AM Subject: [313] so very. very far OT... m300 Hey Im thinking about buying a m500 palm pilot. Any other gadgets with techno related names... I have an

Re: [313] Fw: Leftfield RIP (OT)

2002-03-06 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:55 PM Subject: [313] Fw: Leftfield RIP (OT) Thought some people might be interested in this, if they haven't already heard... (In a

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Neontsetse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313s 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business the fact is, the stuff that ppl are refering to when they refer to Juan Atkins 'the legend' is his early

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Phonopsia
I'm agreeing with Laura, but I've always been curious about the moments in the spotlight of Black Box (late-80s/early 90s) and Crystal Waters (mid 90s). Crystal Waters is still releasing music and playing out (I believe she lives in Baltimore so I may have a more regionalized perspective on this).

Re: [313] Record stores in Detroit?

2002-03-06 Thread Mxyzptlk
Melodies Memories on Gratiot (a few miles south of RT). Neptune in Royal Oak is good for indie and some IDM. The Record Collector in Ferndale is great for retro vinyl as is Car City records on Harper near 8 mile way over on the east side. WAY down in Wyandotte used to be a very odd, but cool

[313] THIS COMING SATURDAY: FRED GIANNELLI AT GABE'S Iowa City

2002-03-06 Thread Kent williams
Out of towners -- if you show us an ID at the door showing you've driven 100 miles to get to this show, it's $2 off the $10 admission. That's right -- bring a carload, and the gas is on us. Well not really. But you know what I mean... As far as I know this is Fred's only scheduled midwest

[313] FA ebay

2002-03-06 Thread Mxyzptlk
More up... Repeat, a few X-Mixes, Carl Craig, Schneider TM, Waldeck, Jeff Mills, Golden Boy Miss Kittin, Daniel Ibbotson, Tresor comps., Max Brennan, more. No reserves. Thx. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems[EMAIL PROTECTED]completed=0sort=0since=-1 seller id =

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
OK- Lets take a look at basically the biggest, most well paid, most recognized electronic artists today. trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white) techno: carl cox? (black) jungle: goldie (black) its not a black / white thing its a geographic thing (uk/usa) and that's because the uk has the

Re: [313] Record stores in Detroit?

2002-03-06 Thread Kevin
Detroit Threads in Hamtramck has a pretty good selection. It's been awhile since I've been there, but I think it's on Jos Campaus St. Kevin www.mp313.com - Original Message - From: Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Cloney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March

Re: [313] On Line Magazines

2002-03-06 Thread FAMZINE
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Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Fred Heutte
The problem is obvious. How many people who revere the early Model 500 tracks in retrospect would have even given them a moment's notice in 1987? No, they were self-released by a young guy from a no-name Detroit suburb, a bunch of things ranting on and on about UFOs and stuff over clattery

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
i don't think anyone is debating the quality of juan's music. obviously, if you are on this list, i think its safe to assume that you're more than likely to throw a Model 500 record on the turntable. what *i* am debating is the sentiment that juan somehow deserves to be thrown tons of money and

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Ian
on 3/5/02 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I count 'Deep Space' as my all-time favorite 313 album. Just a quick story--I spent a frustrating, long Amtrak trip from Detroit to Chicago several years ago, but was fortunate enough to be seated next to a fellow music geek. He was doing his PHD at

[313] klubradio this week

2002-03-06 Thread Pit Schultz
*** this week - Sven Vaeth (cocoon) Thursday night at Tresor - Chris Korda (gigolo rec.) Saturday night at Ostgut - Detroit Special Sat night at WMF (last week in this location!) Todd Sines (Planet E/7Th City/Perlon/Force Tracks, Detroit) Charles Noel (Good Lookin', Creation Rebel,Ongaku,

[313] Fw: TRESOR NEWS MARCH 2002

2002-03-06 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
TRESOR RECORDS NEWS www.tresorberlin.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] MARCH 2002 Here's another painless update with the latest, including: 1. Club 11th birthday lineup 2. New music updates 3. Musik und Maschine update 4. insightful propaganda 5. True Spirit tour schedule .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [313] Mills Peel - the dirty truth revealed on UK TV

2002-03-06 Thread s mcgill
I thought then fishing cap and shorts he was sporting was the height of hilarity too. - Original Message - From: Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: [313] Mills Peel - the dirty truth revealed

[313] Mills Metropolis UK showing

2002-03-06 Thread Toby Frith
From the Royal Festival Hall Wed May 1st 7.30 SonarSound Jeff Mills - Metropolis ETHER Pioneering Detroit DJ Jeff Mills, arguably the biggest household name in US techno, provides a score to a screening of Fritz Lang's 1926 masterpiece, Metropolis. Opening the show are Supercollider and

RE: [313] Mills Metropolis UK showing

2002-03-06 Thread Ian Cheshire
Sonarsound £20 (bcdefgpstv) £17.50 (hjlru) £15 (kmno) No concessions http://www.sbc.org.uk/rfh/ -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 March 2002 09:22 To: 313 Subject: [313] Mills Metropolis UK showing From the Royal Festival Hall Wed May 1st

[313] Square City - Sketches Of The City

2002-03-06 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Just a quick plug for listmember Dan Butler's debut CD, 'Sketches Of The City' by Square City which is coming out on the underrated Pagoda label. Really impressive stuff, very detailed, cosmic and deep techno with a strong 313 influence, but not a slavish copy at all, and thoroughly recommended.

[313] A shocking hobby...

2002-03-06 Thread Wibo . Lammerts
Have been listening to Speedy J's album a shocking hobby for a few days now. Lot's of distorted abstract noise, but I like it!!! I was wondering what the general opinion on this album is, and, whether this album as considered to be a good example of IDM music (not to step on any toes here), and

RE: [313] A shocking hobby...

2002-03-06 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Well, Speedy J has had quite a varied output, some of which I would rank as drill'n bass (think Mike Paradinas et al), some of which is clearly IDM (mostly what he released on Warp), some is Detroit techno - and good Detroit techno too, I'm thinking about his +8 records... Haven't been listening

[313] BLAZE - 25 Years Later

2002-03-06 Thread Wibo . Lammerts
Hiya all, Back in 1992 Motown released Blaze's first ever album called 25 years later. I am told it was a major flop. What are the chances that I might come accross a copy of that album? Is it ultra rare expensive? Anyone got a copy he/she wants to part with? :) Any info is appreciated.

RE: [313] BLAZE - 25 Years Later

2002-03-06 Thread John Bush
Tough! I've been looking for a few years myself, and still haven't seen it... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] BLAZE - 25 Years Later Hiya all, Back in 1992 Motown

Re: [313] can you feel it...

2002-03-06 Thread Jonny McIntosh
I have this release and can't tell any difference between the remixes and the original mixes, to be honest. i recently found (but haven't listend to) a jack trax release (jtx-4) that has: can you feel it remix (5.30) washing machine remix (3.50 amnesia mystery of love is this remix yet

[313] Blaze

2002-03-06 Thread Jonny McIntosh
An outfit called Phase II in the late 80s/early 90s, had substantially the same members Most famously, Reachin'. From around the same time check out their other work on labels like Quark If You Should Need A Friend, Movin' (check Before The Storm's I Got The Music and aforementioned Phase II

[313] re: ismistik

2002-03-06 Thread James David Beard
I think all the ismistik releases are very nice. They're some of my favorites. Trippy, refined melodic techno with a pretty unique flavor--the kind that bounces in your mind, makes you smile and sometimes pulls your heartstrings. Classic sounds arranged in a direct, but original way. They

[313] Blaze - 25 Years Later - available on CD at . . . . . . .

2002-03-06 Thread JovanBlade
Greetings Cats! Although it will be difficult, it's not impossible to find Blaze's 25 Years Later album on vinyl. However, if you check with www.NetSounds.com or www.GEMM.com, you will find a couple of stores who have limited copies of the CD in stock. I would always suggest you begin your

RE: [313] Blaze - 25 Years Later - available on CD at . . . . . . .

2002-03-06 Thread Rob Theakston
I agree. 21st century music is a world class place to find stuff. I think I've picked up over half of my Patrick Adams collection from that place at amazingly reasonable prices. And their service is top notch too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[313] claude young tapes dated

2002-03-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
someone sent me some tapes and i need them dated.. claude young as you like it claude young dexit not recordings of tracks those dj promo ones thanks -k minus 63 in detroit (ok it just feels that way ;) mail2web - Check

RE: [313] Record stores in Detroit?

2002-03-06 Thread Giles Dickerson
Doesn't Rick Wilhite run a store called Vibes? I could be mistaken. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Kevin Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2002 10:30

RE: [313] re: ismistik

2002-03-06 Thread Neil Wallace
i have an ismistik record on djax (i think it has palm trees on the label or something) to be honest i dont think it was that great (though i cant tell you any more than that as ive not really played it much) neil :-Original Message- :From: James David Beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [313] re: ismistik

2002-03-06 Thread alex.bond
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text I think there was 3 Ismistik 12's on Djax, I've certainly got two and I know of another. At the time they came out, I thought they were killer, Techno from Europe that had similarities

[313] A Number of Names Keith Tucker in Paris !

2002-03-06 Thread celina
PARADISE MASSAGE PARTY DETROIT SESSION # 4 THURSDAY MARCH 14TH 2002 AT THE REX CLUB (Paris/France) A NUMBER OF NAMES (PUZZLEBOX RECORDINGS/ DETROIT) - LIVE KEITH TUCKER a.k.a. DJ K-1 (PUZZLEBOX RECORDINGS/ DETROIT) Dj Mic Mac (Fdb Rec.) / Residents Djs: Krikor + Serge Nicolas THE REX CLUB 5

[313] RE: (313) Blaze

2002-03-06 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
You are not talking here about Pure Blaze 1 2? I believe volume 2 came out a few months back. Lot's of early 90s Blaze stuff on both of these compilations W Jonny McIntosh wrote: Far from anonymous disco house, Blaze are, if any group are, the most deserving of a chapter to themselves in the

[313] RE: Blaze

2002-03-06 Thread Odeluga, Ken
As promised: Would love any further comments/info anyone has. Cheers, Ken Paradise Regained (Compilation) Republic Records 1988 Title Artist MusiciansAuthor(s) Production 1. Play To Win Sharone Josh Milan Tyler

[313] UK TV heads up

2002-03-06 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Tonight on BBC1 at 10.45: When Disco Ruled The World Previews seem mixed, but it might be worth a look. Apparent Giorgio Moroder is one person interviewed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Berislav
trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white) techno: carl cox? (black) jungle: goldie (black) come on, man ,techno carl cox if somebody is mega super star in techno thats got to be Richie Hawtin, who is that carl cox figure. fat ass dj running intec nothing special b.

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Ian Cheshire
Jeff Mills, Neil Lanstrumm -Original Message- From: Berislav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 March 2002 15:16 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white) techno: carl cox? (black) jungle: goldie (black) come on, man

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Poivrenoir
The point I was trying to make is that not wether Jaun or Oakenfold being one dj better than the other, it's the fact that Oakenfold speaks to more people with his music right now, even if there is some historical arguement against that he's not as pioneering, who gives a fuck? I don't like

RE: [313] claude young tapes dated

2002-03-06 Thread Matthew Mangold
I believe 'Dexit' is circa 1996; not sure about the other. m -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:07 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] claude young tapes dated someone sent me some tapes and i need them dated..

Re: [313] secondhand (was Blaze - 25 Years Later - available on CD at . . . . . . .

2002-03-06 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Speaking of finding rarities, I've just this afternoon been poking around a secondhand dance shop near me and found a copy of Rob Hood 'The Protein Valve' on M-Plant for £3. £3! And I didn't have a bean on me... so I hid it at the back of the stack. Also found a cool bass 12 by the Unknown DJ on

[313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread Jennifer . Wiringer
Greetings all. Just to expand my knowledge a bit more, I have been recently interested in acid/acid house and its history. When I think of this genre Baby Ford and portamento'd 303 basslines come to mind, but I'm sure I am either just scratching the surface or overgeneralizing. The track Are You

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Oscillate
In a message dated 3/6/02 10:18:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: come on, man ,techno carl cox if somebody is mega super star in techno thats got to be Richie Hawtin, who is that carl cox figure. fat ass dj running intec nothing special dude, you're

[313] Booty/ghetto tech night in London

2002-03-06 Thread brendan . nelson
Hi, Just to let London 313'ers know that there's a booty/ghetto tech night on at Play bar on Old Street tomorrow night - last time round we had DJ Godfather and Ectomorph playing, but it's the residents this time! Play is at 58 Old Street, on the corner with Golden Lane - venue is open from 8pm,

Re: [313] UK TV heads up

2002-03-06 Thread Janne Puurunen
Tonight on BBC1 at 10.45: When Disco Ruled The World would be cool if someone could capture it and make an realvideo, avi, mpg file. i can share it but cannot capture it. - janne - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread cinqueorange
Uh No the DEMF was not a Detroit clique thing and even if it was it is called the DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL. you must be a person living outside of the us or in the us in a white skin and ignorant of history. UR and Atkins are pioneers of this music and get no respect from the business

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Rob Theakston
It was a planet e, KMS, metroplex promo package. number of planet e artists at DEMF 2000:2 (Recloose + Jason Hogans) number of KMS recording at DEMF 2000: 1 (Kevin Saunderson) number of metroplex recording artists: 0 (debatable, as Juan was scheduled but

FW: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Perhaps you can elaborate (with slightly better English, punctuation and spelling please, you are a journalist after all) on the cultural diversity of the electronic music scene in the US - which is what I think you're implying exists. By the way, if you haven't got any intention of causing

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread cinqueorange
what spotlight??? Juan Atkins was never in the Spotlight the techno were always larger overseas than at home. Those records were underground. KMS's Big Fun and Good Life were the biggest records for that whole scene. There was NEVER a time that Derrick got mobbed walking down the street in

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Otto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unless, I suppose you work for UR, which is anti anything not black. You just proved that you have got absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [313] BLAZE - 25 Years Later

2002-03-06 Thread Odeluga, Ken
If peeps aren't sick of this thread by tomorrow, I will post details of 'The Garage Sound Volume III' Rumor/Republic (1991) which features Blaze too. Also Colonel Abrams (I kid you not) Dave Lee, Larry Heard (I wouldn't lie to you) Paul Simpson (the same one) and Kirk Degiorgio(!) ... Unless

RE: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Of course there a lot of different opinions on what was the first acid track but i think i am fairly save when say it's Phuture's Acid Tracks. There is a nice interview with Marshal Jefferson in the Modulations documentary where he explains how he made that track together with Nick Jones and

[313] NL 313ers

2002-03-06 Thread alex.bond
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text A while ago while some friends and I were in Amsterdam, one of my friends who is based over there had a bag full of very rare Detroit records stolen. Like I say, it happened a while ago,

[313] 313 Book List

2002-03-06 Thread cinqueorange
I am sick of all this ignorant banter about racism not existing in dance music. Racism is in the world and the music is a part of the world. I'm not talking about some Kodwo Eshun discourse about sonic fictions I'm talking about the business side of things. We can talk all day about the

[313] RE: (313) re: ismistik

2002-03-06 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
from ad.techno.org (yes, it's still there) Djax-Up-132 Ismistik - Bonus Bouncers Djax-Up-140 Ismistik - Oasis Djax-Up-164 Ismistik - 3rd Trace Djax-Up-CD9 Ismistik - Remain W -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:28 PM To:

RE: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread Grammenos, Peter
What about DJ Pierre ? ... he made 'Wild Pitch' famous throughout the European, Asian and eventually US markets. Just wondering because last time he played in NYC the flyer touted him as being the originator of acid house. Of course you can't believe everything you read on a flyer but i've

Re: [313] 313 Book List

2002-03-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
If the money is not behind an artist they will not succeed. And the people who determine who will succeed have their own bias about what is valuable. I think that everything cinqueorange is saying is true but one thing must be made clear and that is this definition of success - it exists on

RE: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
he's got a new track out called dancin on nitegrooves that is great. i expect it to be a big hit. i was glad to see pierre have a new record out, as i used to be really into the sex trax/power music stuff. spanky, etc... -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
According to my info Acid Tracks was produced by DJ Pierre, Spanky and Marshall Jefferson - no mention of Nick Jones. From the info I have it looks like Nick Jones wasn't involved with Phuture until around 92 or so after Pierre had left... I can check some record labels for credits when I

RE: [313] A shocking hobby...

2002-03-06 Thread Brian Dillard
for a very different side of speedy j, check out 1998's self-titled debut from slag boom van loon (NOT the recent remix album so far, although that's worth a listen, too). it's a collab b/t jochem paap and the aforementioned mike paradinas but they seem to cancel out each other's noisier

Re: [313] klubradio this week

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
is this strictly an internet broadcast, or is it on-air broadcast in germany? On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Pit Schultz wrote: *** this week - Sven Vaeth (cocoon) Thursday night at Tresor - Chris Korda (gigolo rec.) Saturday night at Ostgut - Detroit Special Sat night at WMF (last week in this

RE: [313] Record stores in Detroit?

2002-03-06 Thread Matthew Cloney
Too funny, my friend owns Neptune. I have a hat from there I wear out here a lot. Love Windy Carl too... I'm actually from Dearborn. Cheers, -m -Original Message- From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:16 PM To: Matthew Cloney Cc: 313@hyperreal.org

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread r3dshift
I cant believe what bullshit this list is. dont you fools know that the music knows no color? cant you people remember the days when no one knew what color the guy putting out the record was and you just listened to it for, *gasp* the MUSIC? This list bickers and bitches about race more

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread cinqueorange
you obviously didn't read all of our posts. Nor did you read Juan's interview. I would suggest you go to the submerge site and find the interview he did with the california paper. This should clear some things up about the non-existence race in the music business and rumors Five

Re: [313] A shocking hobby...

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
a shocking hobby is good, although i think most in the IDM scene over-looked it. have you heard public energy #1? that's speedy j's 1997 album 9his last for +8). that's where he first made the switch from clean smooth techno to the serious noise. (attention 313 guards: i know the 'ni go snix' 12

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread r3dshift
what I SHOULD do is unsub and quit wasting the time I could be spending making tracks for the people on the list that actually love the music and not the shitstorm surrounding it. race issues will appear anywhere you let them and sometimes despite your wishes. i've yet to encounter race

Re: [313] claude young tapes dated

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
i bought the dexit tape at grammaphone in chicago fall of 1996. that night, mike dearborn threw his first Blast Off party with dj hell, claude young, miss djax, joey beltram, stacy pullen (jungle set). damn, why aren't there events like that anymore? (rhetorical question) On Wed, 6 Mar 2002,

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
hmmm. hawtin or cox. internationally, i really think cox might have a slightly higher profile, although i could be wrong. On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Berislav wrote: trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white) techno: carl cox? (black) jungle: goldie (black) come on, man ,techno carl cox if

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
the DEMF did an amazing job representing everything in electronic music. and carl got knocked down by the playa haters network. On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point I was trying to make is that not wether Jaun or Oakenfold being one dj better than the other, it's the fact that

Re: [313] A shocking hobby... [soulseek]

2002-03-06 Thread r3dshift
in case some of you dont know of it yet, there is a napster-like file sharing service just for electronic music called soulseek (www.soulseek.org) lots of very very hard to find stuff on there. its PC only though. I found 3-4 speedy J live sets on there that just plain kick ass. also I

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
is everyone here familiar with thedjlist.com? its a website where anyone can go and vote for their favorite dj, any dj. cox is # 8 hawtin is #36 On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/02 10:18:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: come on,

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Ok sorry but I'm kinda going backward in reading my mail today - After reading reading all the opinions on this very real very serious problem several questions and other points come up in my head - Let me begin with this question - why has hip-hop replaced techno/house as the accepted black

RE: [313] claude young tapes dated

2002-03-06 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
dexit came out at the same time his dexit album came out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] claude young tapes dated i bought the dexit tape at

RE: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
a real good primer would be the hardfloor x-mix. it has tracks by dj pierre, armando, phuture. unfortuately, it doesn't have 'acid track', but i don't know of anyother real good chicago acid 'mix' cds. On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote: What about DJ Pierre ? ... he made 'Wild

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread teknosn0b
ever heard of, thedjlist can suck it? paul van oakenfag and sasha van digaho before hawtin? BAD BOY BILLLIEE in the mix.. live.. understand? PLUHHHLLLEEEAASSSEEE. gag me with a fucking 20inch penis. 1 TIESTO 8080 2 PAUL VAN DYK 6845 3 PAUL OAKENFOLD 5338 4 GEORGE ACOSTA 4607 5 SASHA 4181 6

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
my intention was never to slap juan. my intention was to correct certain ppl who make their living off of juan adn feel the need to discredit other artist in a vague attempt to up their income. although, in a moment of blatent self appraisal, i suppose i have taken a few shots at juan in the

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Jones, George
I can't remember a time when Techno was THE accepted black music among the population in tha D. From the time I moved to Detroit in '85 until I graduated high school, it was all about hip hop. Now, Techno and house were acceptable, meaning, one could listen to either without getting stares or

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
i don't really think that hip-hop 'replaced' techno. even in the 80's there really couldn't have been more than several thousand ppl attending the music institute. radio certainly had more variety back then, but hip-hop certainly had its cultural footing in place long before techno was even a

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Data General
Philip Brian Harper wrote a book called Are We Not Men? which deals with the politics of homophobia, masculinity, and black music. mostly it talks about motown, but it gets into disco and post-disco dance music, too, including Sylvester. It's a good book and I suspect one could write an amended

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
btw: i'm really too young to have been involved with either. but i defiantely knew what rap was long before i ever heard of techno. On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok sorry but I'm kinda going backward in reading my mail today - After reading reading all the opinions on this very

RE: [313] claude young tapes dated

2002-03-06 Thread Brian Dillard
amen. having attended sickness and recovery as a total newbie a few months earlier and been blown away by mills, hawtin and acquaviva, i attended blastoff as a budding convert to all things techno. hell and claude blew my mind - and still blow it, from time to time. brian -Original

RE: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread Brian Dillard
try mad on acid, a two-cd compilation of chicago classics plus a few other turn-of-the-decade acid tracks, including one by joey beltram (can't remember which). brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:12 AM To:

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
what happened to courtesy and politeness. the debate we were having was simply which techno artist has the highest profile. On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever heard of, thedjlist can suck it? paul van oakenfag and sasha van digaho before hawtin? BAD BOY BILLLIEE in the

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread keleigh casper
You'd think a 'journalist' would understand the bias associated with such a poll. Feel free to continue picking and choosing such ethics and standards as they suit your argument. That top-ten list could be renamed 'Biggest ads in Mixer' or similar. Again, if these Web-access priviledged,

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread teknosn0b
What happened to the sarcasm? And people getting it? Oh yeah.. this is 313. I forgot for a second. To make this techno related. I finally broke down and bought richies closer to the edit cd. _L - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
i'm quite certain this poll is simply open to anyone who wishes to vote. obviously there are flaws, but what otehr gauge could you possibly use to judge what djs have the highest profile 'overall' On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, keleigh casper wrote: You'd think a 'journalist' would understand the bias

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread keleigh casper
Or, its open to anyone with Internet access, anyone who the site has been marketed to and is aware of it, anyone who has the personality-type that participates in such polls, anyone who would want to contribute to such bogusness, anyone who isn't turned off by the entire idea of polling dj

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Alexandres Lugo
So is this list unfortunately;) i'm quite certain this poll is simply open to anyone who wishes to vote. obviously there are flaws, but what otehr gauge could you possibly use to judge what djs have the highest profile 'overall' On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, keleigh casper wrote: You'd think a

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread keleigh casper
my intention was to correct certain ppl who make their living off of juan adn feel the need to discredit other artist in a vague attempt to up their income. and in that vein, who pays your bills (???) mr. i work for motor and freelance for ad-driven, cheese filled, put lil' kim on the cover

[313] Michael Moore

2002-03-06 Thread Keith Mleczko
I just finished reading his book Stupid White Men and was wondering the lists thoughts on his work. The book talks a lot about what it means to be a particular skin color and to live in the us. He will also be at St Andrews on 3/12 for a lecture and peace rally. Keith

Re: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread james bucknell
acid originated in chicago in the late 80s. it was the high point of human civilsation. some of the early producers are dj pierre and phuture and phortune, armando, bam bam, mike dunn, house master baldwin, laurent x. some of the labels are trax, dj international, future sound, early dance mania,

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread cinqueorange
why don't you try reading Juan's piece first and if you really do feel that way, leave. Five - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread james bucknell
about four or five years ago dj pierre played an acid house set at baktun in new york. absolutely amazing night. james www.jbucknell.com From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:16:17 -0500 To: 'Jongsma, K.J.' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313]

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread cinqueorange
I don't have a problem with Juan but you don't know what you are talking about because you did not read the article. Do some research first before you start ranting. You just make yourself look ignorant when you don't. Five -

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
i refuse to argue this point until you can present me with another reliable way to gauge anything. On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, keleigh casper wrote: Or, its open to anyone with Internet access, anyone who the site has been marketed to and is aware of it, anyone who has the personality-type that

[313] RH Single

2002-03-06 Thread Wes
Someone mentioned Richie Hawtin. Recently picked up Closer to the (Re-)Edit on CD single. 2 cuts totalling just 11 or so mins., (Re-)edit #1: freak'd which is actually rather subdued, (Re-)edit #2: ranged. This last one uses Rhythm Sound, some Bluetrain/Mosaic track(s) to quite devastating

Re: [313] acid (house)

2002-03-06 Thread r3dshift
imo acid trax wasnt that great of a song. it merely opened the door to a new sub genre I think it was all 707 and 303 too. very amenic. a real good primer would be the hardfloor x-mix. it has tracks by dj pierre, armando, phuture. unfortuately, it doesn't have 'acid track', but i don't

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