Re: v16 List Box Set Enterable not working?

2018-01-23 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
little bit to do the same. Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *We go vote - they go home* On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Jim Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > On Jan 22, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4

Re: Going to the Summit Training, does it worth it?

2018-01-22 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
can make it a little pricy but again it's not out of line. If you use 4D in a business context, have the time and budget I think it's worth it. At least they have been for me for the past eight or nine years. I must note that I am a presenter this year as well. Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA

Re: v16 List Box Set Enterable not working?

2018-01-22 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
cell you use the On Before Data Entry form event. It may seem a bit odd to have an object method return a value but that's how it works. Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *We go vote - they go home* On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Jim Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@li

Re: Can I use METHOD GET NAMES in the Host to get methods from a component?

2018-01-18 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
technique, where you use a host method as proxy to obtain info not > available to components works great. It may fail with some special 4D > commands, but has worked for me with all those I tried. > Give it a try. > > julio > > > On Jan 18, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Kirk Brooks via

Can I use METHOD GET NAMES in the Host to get methods from a component?

2018-01-18 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Doesn't look like it but maybe there is something I'm not thinking of. Thanks! -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke

Re: Using web areas in v16, is there a way to 'talk back' to 4d...

2018-01-04 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ****** -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is fo

Re: Electronic Signature Pads

2017-12-28 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
om/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary fo

Re: List Box Header background color programatically.

2017-12-26 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Hi all, On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Kirk Brooks <lists.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wonder if you can call OBJECT SET FORMAT on them too? Probably can't > change the button type (which looks like 3D-bevel) but that does open up > the formatting options a bit. Simply changing the

Re: List Box Header background color programatically.

2017-12-26 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
tp://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- Kirk Brooks San Francisc

Re: Programmatically Manage Parent Tab an Multi-Subforms

2017-12-26 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
John, On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 6:56 AM, truegold via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I think I will take a few more days off and when I return look at it with > fresh eyes. ​Frequently the very best advice and, for me anyway, ​usually the very hardest to follow. -- Kir

Re: Programmatically Manage Parent Tab an Multi-Subforms

2017-12-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
t; actual subform > > Logically it seems that I need to programmatically set the correct tab and > tell the subform container to change the subform displayed. And then, of > course, have the subform appear in the subform container. -- Kirk B

Re: Creating/Modifying 4DWrite/Pro Documents via Web Page

2017-12-21 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
As a result, only HTML documents exported > by 4D Write Pro can be opened by 4D Write Pro without any risk of data > loss. Importing HTML documents that were created externally could produce > errors. > } > ​Which is why despite the many useful things 4dWritePro provides I prefer

Re: [off] File will not open in excel

2017-12-15 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
as a plain text > file, when opened in Windows Office 2010 Excel it opens, and opens as a > spread sheet. > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do no

Re: Anyone have a link to a Northwind SQL dataset?

2017-12-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
t in > previous versions you needed to install an ODBC driver on Mac. See: > https://www.catbase.com/configuring-an-odbc-driver > > Does that help? > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men

Re: Anyone have a link to a Northwind SQL dataset?

2017-12-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
For those of you playing along at home - I found this site on Github where you can get the basic data set. The structure is pretty simple to just make in 4D. https://github.com/tmcnab/northwind-mongo On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Kirk Brooks <lists.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi F

Re: Anyone have a link to a Northwind SQL dataset?

2017-12-09 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ch version of 4D? > Can you make the connection to the Northwind db OK? > What error do you get? > What's the script contents? > > So many questions ... :) > > Pat > > On 9 December 2017 at 21:14, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > > wrote: >

Re: Anyone have a link to a Northwind SQL dataset?

2017-12-09 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
; > why were you curious about it? > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: htt

Anyone have a link to a Northwind SQL dataset?

2017-12-09 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
? -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com

Re: Typing a menu ref for Dynamic pop up menu

2017-12-07 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
used anymore, or more probably not ever used. > > Thanks, > > John > > > > > On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > John, > > > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, John Baugh

Re: Typing a menu ref for Dynamic pop up menu

2017-12-07 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
a menu ref. You mention "I try to append to the list" which suggests you're using APPEND TO LIST which is looking for a list ref and that's a longint. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

Re: Anyone seeing issues with OPEN PRINTING JOB and Windows 10?

2017-12-07 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Sorry - I should mention this is v15.4. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Kirk Brooks <lists.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a user running a brand new Win10 laptop and is unable to print a > report built inside an OPEN/CLOSE PRINTING JOB clause. This is an old > report and

Anyone seeing issues with OPEN PRINTING JOB and Windows 10?

2017-12-07 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
I have a user running a brand new Win10 laptop and is unable to print a report built inside an OPEN/CLOSE PRINTING JOB clause. This is an old report and no other users are having issues. I'm looking for ideas about what it might be. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA

Re: Execute on server gotcha

2017-12-06 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
s well. Which is a pretty cool feature I haven't taken much advantage of. On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > clarification please. > > if the set created on the client side is "$Test" then it is NOT > available in t

Re: Execute on server gotcha

2017-12-05 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
That is useful for development in single user mode since there's no way to mimic the effect of running on the server. Do you know if Method Get Attribute is any faster/slower/it doesn't matter than testing the application type? ​ -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA

Execute on server gotcha

2017-12-05 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
for the application type because calling EOS methods in single user mode runs in the same process and that could be confusing sometimes. And in reality I have some more stuff in there but this makes the point. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary

Re: Assign multidimensional array

2017-12-04 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
lumns >> >> it works:-) >> -- Arnaud de Montard >> > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Option

Re: Component works with compiled source but not as a component

2017-12-01 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
thod, not a valid pointer. > > > > > > How else could I pass an array of record keys to the host? > > > > > > Jim > > > > On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > >> Ji

Re: Component works with compiled source but not as a component

2017-12-01 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
xpected. > > But after building a component using the Build Application menu, the > callback method receives $1 correctly, but $2 contains ->$, a pointer to $. > > Anybody have any idea what could be happening? > > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA ===

Re: poor performance LISTBOX INSERT COLUMN

2017-12-01 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
and the number is 10 !! > So, after a lot of recoding they still have to wait for more than 5 seconds > ​I may be missing the point but is it the data in the arrays changing? If so you know you don't need to re-draw the listbox from scratch, just update the arrays. -- Kirk Bro

bad code does bad things

2017-12-01 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ode quality: WTFs/minute. ​OK, back to work cowboy. ​ -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ** 4D Internet Users

Re: Tab into subform containers and GOTO OBJECT

2017-11-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
pps. > ​Interesting. I'd like to see it in action sometime. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ** 4D In

Re: The speed penalty for pointers is pretty low compiled

2017-11-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
( > https://blog.4d.com) is fantastic for demonstrating new features. > ​You are absolutely correct. Thanks for pointing that out. Ha, I wind up doing exactly the sort of thing I'm saying not to do.​ -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the t

Re: Tab into subform containers and GOTO OBJECT

2017-11-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
sts.4d.com> wrote: > Parent form: subform container1 -> subform container2 -> Subform (here’s > where I want to set GOTO OBJECT) > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothi

Re: The speed penalty for pointers is pretty low compiled

2017-11-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ave_ to be re-written. And then, as you say, we've all be bitten by jumping onto something new only to stumble on to some bug. Well, you know what they say, if it was easy to write good code every a**hole in the world would be doing it. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA ===

Re: Numeric Array Variable Not Reset When Array Redefined

2017-11-27 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ists and combo boxes work or scrollable lists. But it's not the case with listboxes​. For instance I like to use a 1 column listbox to display a list of documents in a folder. I store the path to the folder in the {0} element instead of an separate variable. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA =

Re: Subform initialize logic

2017-11-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
g this this sort of stuff on-the-fly but the truth is both 4D and hardware are powerful enough it's rare it makes any difference on user forms. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke*

Re: Subform initialize logic

2017-11-23 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
need to even know what page it's on because the parent form is controlling when it configures itself. ​ ​Is it the case your subform on page 2 changes configuration while the parent form is displayed?​ -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the tri

Re: Subform initialize logic

2017-11-23 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
the data object ​#3 is especially useful in v16 since the subform object can be a c-object. ​In your specific case I bet you already have a form boolean var called 'enabled'. You know it doesn't have to be visible and it doesn't have to be big - you can set it's coords to 0 width and 0 height. Gr, >

Re: Drop Down Menu Form Event

2017-11-17 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ening the menu and when selecting a choice from the menu) > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ** 4D

Re: wa open url command in v15

2017-11-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
t > compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption > from disclosure as to this communication. > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html

Re: Debug window messed up

2017-11-13 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Really? It's that simple? Did you just make that up? On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Vincent de Lachaux via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Create a method with just one line : TRACE > > Run the method with the shift key down will restore the debug window. > &g

Re: Slow characters visualization

2017-11-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** > --

Re: Normalization question

2017-11-08 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ls/index.htm> to a > treasure trove of data models. I checked a couple of the models in the > "employees" section and the generic model > <http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/employee_ > generic_model/index.htm> > might provide so

Re: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

2017-11-02 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
s > = "no." Not documenting the tools properly = "no". Calling bad design > "standard behavior" = "no." Telling people that its' down to us to track > down a bug that freezes the server and that 4D isn't actively investigating > it on their own? Ye

Re: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

2017-11-01 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
(well, there's REN), with a strictly typed language. It works but there are issues. This is an issue. Which means it needs to be known and documented. I don't want to beat up on the folks maintaining the docs so I agree with the earlier comment about the value of user (developer) comments on the d

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-31 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Er - "I wasn't aware the error handler would get tripped by line 14" is what I meant to type. On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Kirk Brooks <lists.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wan't aware that the error handler would get tripped by that though. > -- Kirk Br

Re: pointers to arrays

2017-10-31 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ent types of arrays but it's a lot more work whereas converting to and from text is easy. ​And this works complied. D ​oes that make sense? ​Do I get your need correctly? On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Peter Mew via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Thank You > And How do I creat

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
obj;"key";Is longint) // no error Or it could be when I was looking at compiled code. I haven't tested this rigorously yet. It's pretty helpful that it 'defaults to text' as it were. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > O

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
> languages. > > anyway, > > 4D is a strongly typed language, so the use of the 3rd argument "Is text" > does not remove the need to declare the left operand. > > if you > > $t:=OB Get($o;"foo";Is text) > > then you must > > C_TEXT($t) &

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
nly used it to display an objects content. > Haven’t tried to get the modified data back to 4D. > > HTH > Koen > > > Op 29 okt. 2017, om 22:26 heeft Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven: > > > > Just display a c-obj in a

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** > -- Kirk Brooks San F

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-29 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ght) $x:=$left+150 // the 150 is arbitrary $width:=$right-$x-18 // 18 is for the scroll bar ​Then just move it into place, make if visible and put $value into it. This is when I realized having the full path to the value is useful - much easier than having to work it out by walking back up t

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-29 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
TEM PARAMETER($list;$itemRef;Additional text;$value) SET LIST ITEM PARAMETER($list;$itemRef;"cData";$c_data) SET LIST ITEM PARAMETER($list;$itemRef;"type";$aTypes{$i}) End case End for On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Kirk Brooks <lists.k...@gmail.com> wr

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-29 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ndable. > > Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll post it here. > > > On Oct 29, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > Jeff, > > Just display a c-obj in a hierarchical list.

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-29 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Jeff, Just display a c-obj in a hierarchical list. I want to mimic the way the debugger shows c-objects. On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > What are you trying to do? > > > On Oct 29, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4

Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

2017-10-29 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
I thought I had such a method but it seems I don't. Before I re-invent this particular wheel does anyone have this already and are willing to share? Thanks -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

Re: find only partial strings

2017-10-27 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
; wrote: > Hi > If I have a document, that has both the word "seg" and the word "segment", > is there a way I can find the positions of just the word "seg" > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for

Re: Placing cursor in text field in included form

2017-10-27 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
* > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com &

Re: POP3 Email Processing

2017-10-27 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ere was no need to have them in the parent db at all. I'm starting to think it might be worthwhile to add the email sending tasks as well. The parent db drops out-going emails into a watched folder, the email db sends them. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only

Re: Tip: Exporting to a target folder in a package

2017-10-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
to allow the user (me !) to > locate the target folder for the export, it doesn’t let you navigate inside > a package (which is where all my destination folders are since they are in > the Resource folder for the structure). > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The onl

Re: Primary Key in 4Dv15

2017-10-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
om/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA ==

Re: SVG add object question

2017-10-22 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
quot;combined" using SVG_ELEMENTS_TO_ARRAYS, and > SVG_Add_object for each reference in the doc being added. > This technique doesn't produce a complete merge if doc2 has structures, > like patterns, that the elements of doc2 depend on. > > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA ==

Re: SVG add object question

2017-10-22 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
gt; On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > I must be confused about how this works. I have some SVG files I want to > > use to create button icons. These are nice, simple, native SVG. I want to > > manipul

SVG add object question

2017-10-21 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
received the new object. I can see that by looking at $svg in the viewer. What am I missing here? -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke

Re: QUERY into variable vs. Records in Table

2017-10-19 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
nd execution of server side methods in one method. All the important stuff is in one place. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* **

Re: Subrecords with subrecords

2017-10-13 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
​I'm trying to visualize this - "So you have to replace all these lines of code with EXECUTE commands." Do you mean opening the structure in 2004 will show the names of the sub-subtable fields so you can then write the code using that name and run it with EXECUTE and not choke?

Re: Subrecords with subrecords

2017-10-12 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
PM, Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > In v16 the 2nd level subtable isn't moved over. The field is in the 1st > level subtable. My goal with all this is to write something to migrate the > data. > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA ==

Re: Print From Web Area

2017-10-12 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
> > What command would I use to invoke the printing in the first place? > > -- > Cannon.Smith > Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. > Hill Spring, AB Canada > 403-626-3236 > <can...@synergyfarmsolutions.com> > > > > > On Oct 11, 2017, at 5:11 PM

Re: Print From Web Area

2017-10-11 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thin

Re: Is Table Number Valid Cannot Validate New Temporary Table

2017-10-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
That's pretty cool - being able to get a pointer into a local var like that. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > of course it works compiled :) > > > 2017/10/11 1:12、Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> の

Re: [offish]Volume of mail

2017-10-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
at I _don’t_ > like is that it’s much more work to get it done. > > I think mailing lists are just a thing of the past and a few of us are > holding on for all we’re worth. > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph

Re: Is Table Number Valid Cannot Validate New Temporary Table

2017-10-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
. > > C_POINTER($p) > $name:="Table_1" > $formula:="" > PROCESS 4D TAGS($formula;$formula;->$p) > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the trium

Re: Number format

2017-10-04 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
That's the way I've always been able to make it work - with the space for the zero condition. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > Try "###.##0,##0;-###.##0,##0; " > > Note that (I think) you need a space after the sec

Re: What to do about users who won't follow instructions?

2017-10-04 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
it's your fault. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists

Re: OPEN COLOR PICKER or OBJECT SET RGB COLORS inconsistencies

2017-10-01 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ect device color space (the one that 4D uses). > > you will see that the hex value changes from FF6600 to FF7C00, on the > panel. > this is the value that OPEN COLOR PICKER returns. > > 2017/10/02 10:30、Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com d_t...@lists.4d.com>> のメール: >

Re: OPEN COLOR PICKER or OBJECT SET RGB COLORS inconsistencies

2017-10-01 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
you use the picker tool, it switches to generic, > so the RGB representation differs to that used in 4D. > you need to manually switch the space to device, > or use the value returned by the command (which is converted to device). > > > 2017/09/30 0:50、Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech

OPEN COLOR PICKER or OBJECT SET RGB COLORS inconsistencies

2017-09-29 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ced on dark colors. But trying to quantify these sort of differences without a colorimeter is not reliable. Anyone else seen this? Any ideas? Worth filing a bug report? ​This is v16.2 (32 bit) on macos Sierra. ​ -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for t

Re: How to get a the hidden array of a listbox?

2017-09-27 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
-List-Box- > Objects.300-3433556.en.html> > It > indicates that the page was modified in 15R4. > > Also, the string "managing row display" is in the V16 docs but not the V15 > so perhaps the feature was introduce in R4? > > -- > Douglas von Roeder > 949-336

How to get a the hidden array of a listbox?

2017-09-27 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
This is v15 - how do I do that. Listbox get array would seem like the answer, and I think it is in v16, but not in v15. Is it possible? Thanks -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund

Re: Is it possible to put a SVG file directly on a form?

2017-09-25 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
variable (either visible or > invisible) on a form if you need to save the SVG temporarily. What are you > trying to do? > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > or does it have to be converted to a pict

Re: Listbox Spacing Between Columns

2017-09-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
wrote: > even if it doesn't seem applicable to your immediate deployment target, > it is good practice as a programmer > to not assume that a thousand (decimal) separator would always be a comma > (period). > > 2017/09/25 7:43、Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com

Is it possible to put a SVG file directly on a form?

2017-09-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
or does it have to be converted to a picture? -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ** 4D Internet Users

Re: Listbox Spacing Between Columns

2017-09-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
at thousands of operations but for the flexibility the trade off can be worth it. Or you can look into NTK as I mentioned. On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Sannyasin Siddhanathaswami via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Very cool idea! Does this formula evaluation only work with arr

Re: Listbox Spacing Between Columns

2017-09-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ortunately trailing spaces are ignored. Too bad, as > that would have been perfect for this circumstance. Any other ideas? > > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to d

Re: Listbox Spacing Between Columns

2017-09-23 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
4d.com> wrote: > Aloha! > > I have a listbox column for dollar amounts (aligned right) followed by a > Description column with text aligned left. Unfortunately, that means the > text of those two columns are butting up against each other. Is there a way > to add a bit more

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-13 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
of the server hardware our > Clients purchase. However, each new version I continue to find it is not > robust enough to really use stored procedures. > > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil

Re: v16x centipedes, trilobites and various other arthropods

2017-09-13 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
in alp area except "outside" of all columns (i.e. > on empty area) > > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* *

Re: Resizing objects in subforms

2017-09-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
r the form and it can become difficult to see them in one place. I just find it really helpful in dealing with subforms. I've posted about this before if you want to see more discussion of it. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil

v16 Listboxes and the Control Array

2017-09-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
if this is still true in v16. I'm starting to experiment with it but can someone tell me if this is still the case? Thanks -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
the > standard 4D ports with them so that having those ports open would not > trigger a violation. On the other hand, I think I read that credit card > machines are supposed to be on a separate network anyway. A low speed DSL > would work. > > Keith - CDI > > > On Sep 7,

[OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-07 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
If anyone has experience with successfully completing a PCI/DSS audit and certification for your network, not just the 4D part, I would really appreciate talking with you. Ping me off line. Thanks -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary

Re: Quickbooks 2014/4D 2014/QB SDK 13.0

2017-09-05 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
om/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ****** > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA ===

Re: Tip: Finding scheduling conflicts

2017-08-31 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
work has to be submitted in JAVA - which I really don't know. ​Maybe someone here who does know JAVA would enroll and a group of interested 4D devs could do a hangout or something to participate as a group? -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary fo

Re: v13 on OS X 12.6

2017-08-29 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
rnet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > *******

Re: Using SVG for button graphics

2017-08-22 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
ly tiny and I may wind up with a few dozen of them but that's really no biggie. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ***

Re: Using SVG for button graphics

2017-08-22 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
gt;;$format) > SVG_CLEAR ($svg) > > Keith - CDI > > > On Aug 22, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm playing around with some SVG to create simple button graphics and > >

Using SVG for button graphics

2017-08-22 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Hi folks, I'm playing around with some SVG to create simple button graphics and icons. How can I set an SVG object as the picture source for a button without writing it to a file or saving it in a process var? Many thanks -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only

Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
cheide > Subject: Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16? > > lost functionality - **SHOULD** be a bug... > of course that is when it is not a feature :) > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 05:41:59 -0700, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech wrote: > > A HA! > > Now, is it bug or is it a f

Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
other > > > Yosemite. And I've tried every combination of modifiers I can think of. > > > > > > I believe I asked about this before. Is there some option I may have > > either > > > set or unset to cause this? Really annoyi

Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-14 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
- or now. > > > On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > Never knew about this shortcut... > > > > -- > > Jeffrey Kain > > jeffrey.k...@gmail.com > > > > On Aug 14

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