ures having to deal with interprocess communication.
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s a property in my code, there is no way to
safely make a change to that if I only want it to impact a subset of my objects.
If you could declare constants in code without restarting 4D, it might change
my mind.
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> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:44 PM, David Adams wrote:
>
>
macOS changed to Helvetica Neue in Yosemite.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/2/5773838/apple-os-x-yosemite-changes-system-font-for-first-time
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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Tim Nevels wrote:
>
> I am lazy and just use the system font. Lucida Grande on macOS and Segoe
ight be dns-sd using LAUNCH
EXTERNAL PROCESS. Something like
dns-sd -B _afpovertcp._tcp
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O
owser, but not in a 4D
web area.
My alternative has been to use a styled text area and Markdown formatting.
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> On Sep 27, 2016, at 4:57 AM, Foucauld Perotin wrote:
>
> So, my question: have some of you been further recently using tinyMCE in Web
> Area? if yes, w
I posted this method a while back which does not use SVG commands.
http://kb.4d.com/resources/inug?msgid=GmailId145b02d07486aa50
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> On Oct 13, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
>
> I have one problem with this code
>
Not a WYSIWYG editor, but BBEdit has a nice document syntax checker.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Sujit Shah wrote:
>
> Has anyone got suggestions on WYSIWYG editors other than DW and MS Visual
> Web? Somethin
resources are freed
when an object is no longer needed. Then you could attach sets, named
selections, and other types of resources to the object and clean them up when
the object is no longer referenced.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Sujit Shah wrote:
>
> It is s
in your applications?
I would be much more likely to use preemption if the above was possible. I
think the proposal about changing the nature of IP variables is problematic and
should be addressed in some other way.
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ring to
the specific type:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/cast-functions.html#function_cast
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d has focus and you
click on a button that is not focusable.
My only idea so far is to get the mouse position and see which object it is in.
Life would be simple if boolean fields responded to On Data Change like every
other field type. That seems like a longstanding bug to me.
John DeSoi,
I can use on all forms and avoid adding an object
method to every boolean field. OBJECT Get pointer(Object current) returns nil
in the form method. No On Data Changed is fired for boolean fields, but it is
for every other type of fi
ne when a boolean field is changed. It only gets an On
Clicked event. The boolean field may have the focus but it is not the object
clicked on. The only work-around I have found is to see if the mouse is in the
coordinates of the boolean field that has focus to determine if that
forget to add the object method, now I have a bug. Every
object that has data to change should support On Data Change.
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e it returns in the On Clicked event is not necessarily the one
the user actually clicked on. Example: A boolean field has focus and the user
clicks on a non-focusable button. The function returns the field's object name
even though the user clicked on the button.
Thanks for the ide
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 7:32 PM, John DeSoi wrote:
>
> It has the same problem as OBJECT Get pointer(Object with focus). In the form
> method, the value it returns in the On Clicked event is not necessarily the
> one the user actually clicked on. Example: A boolean field ha
any way we could avoid this from happening? We were hopeful that
> using "undefined" would help but that doesn't work in a compiled database.
Why not use an error handler to catch the error and abort processing of the
form?
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4D, but it is a very long road to get it right. You are better off using a
language that has a parser generator. I wrote one in Lisp. If you want better
direct integration with 4D, there are several parser generators available for
Javascript.
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he documents somewhere else
(e.g. a website), it is a database problem rather than a file management
problem.
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Sequence number does not increment unless you create or duplicate a record.
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> On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:21 AM, Sujit Shah wrote:
>
> READ WRITE([Contact_Listing])
> For ($i;1;Size of array($alDuplicateIDs))
> QUERY([Contact_Listing];[Contact_Listing]ID=$al
uble to launch a separate process and wait for the startup to complete. Just
have the process check process 1 for status = Waiting for user event.
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is:
{"test":true}
So the host sees both the added and removed property executed in the component.
What am I missing?
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call with a large
object parameter takes a long time even though 4D only writes a small amount of
the JSON parameter to the log file.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
>
> On Dec 4, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Justin Carr
> wrote:
>
>
> As long as you're using the "new" v14 log f
I recently had the need to store some static objects in methods and found what
seems to be a fairly simple way. I have not tested it with anything large, but
it might help spark some ideas.
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===
//Serialize the object to a 4D method.
//$1 - Object.
//$2 - Method name
e
> implementations in Java, C++, Python, JavaScript and so on. Give his thread
> a look and give it a +1!
Facebook has opened sourced a cross platform layout engine called Yoga based on
Flexbox.
https://code.facebook.com/posts/1751945575131606
https://facebo
instead of
ON ERR CALL("MY_ERROR_HANDLER")
I added a feature request for this in the middle of last year. You can vote for
it here if you agree:
http://forums.4d.fr/Post/EN/17984703/1/17984704#17984704
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x27;m not doing
any Windows deployment right now, by maybe in the near future. I'm hoping 4D
can install in the normal application directory before I have to deal with it
:).
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n value was not consumed. I think
this went away in version 14 or 15.
But it still does not help with the most needed case: EXECUTE METHOD.
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unusable during backups. And you have to bring down the website to perform
software updates.
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executes to completion before the crash.
The backtrace below is looks to be related to hierarchical menus perhaps? Does
any of this look similar to your crashes?
Thanks,
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Process: 4D [23404]
Path: /Applications/*/4D.app/Contents/MacOS/4D
Identifier
ng 4D, more accurately). I decided
to try again with version 16 now that it is a full 64 bit Cocoa application and
the legacy MacOS stuff is gone. So far, all of the things I failed to
accomplish previously seem to be working in version 16.
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Yes, you can declare a 2D array of each type and then just allocate listbox
columns as needed from the 2D arrays.
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> On Jan 28, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Lee Hinde wrote:
>
> In my case I am flattening out c_objectc/fields. By definition I don’t know
> how many key
two menu item shortcuts, E followed by P.
Command-E executes the Command-P menu item. Command-P at the end of the menu
does nothing.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Feb 13, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Paul Ringsmuth wrote:
>
> Configuration:
> 4D v15.4 and 16 R2 build 16R2.208523
> MacBookPro OSX
bsite link for more
detail?
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> On Aug 12, 2016, at 2:36 PM, ADeeg wrote:
>
> My goal is it to enhance my outlook mac users with html emails with embedded
> pictures. Sending html emails is done with applescript, now I like to embed
> pictures inside the html for
utes), or their
> computer goes to sleep or sometime when their energy saver activated. Is
> there a solution for this?
You don't mention which platform, but I have often found the Mac OS crash logs
to provide good hints about the cause of
fetching for the visible rows.
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event and fetch the next 1000 rows of data in the arrays. It is possible
to implement very smooth scrolling of SQL data without loading huge amounts of
data into arrays all at once.
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> On Aug 31, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Alan Tilson wrote:
>
> John,
> I did not re
e boolean array listbox.
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> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Jody Bevan wrote:
>
> Since v12 of 4D we had one form for all outputs. It used a listbox. We let
> users determine which column they would show or not. We also let the system
> administrator add new column
are using
4D's built-in sort dialog?
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> On Aug 31, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Sannyasin Siddhanathaswami
> wrote:
>
> I’m still stuck on not being able to get a complex sort from a selection so I
> can do a sort again after changing the selection. I guess I need
Would it
be that difficult for the compiler just to emit a runtime error if a
non-preemptive command was called in a preemptive process?
Looking forward to v16!
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Cannon Smith
> wrote:
>
> I also really enjoyed watching the vide
No need for duplicates as long as I don't care about having any pre-emptive
processes, right? In the current design, the method that starts the process and
every method in it's call chain must have only pre-emptive commands if I want
it to run in pre-emptive mode. Correct?
John D
Are you using the new network layer and the 64 bit version of 4D server? It
might be worth trying to turn off the new network layer or even just run the 32
bit version for now. Those features are very new. 15.2 32 bit has been very
stable.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:12
rver.app/Contents/MacOS/4D
Server
Identifier:com.4D.4DServer
Version: 15.2 build 15.198931 (15.0.2)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:??? [1]
Responsible: 4D Server [17964]
User ID:
])
ALL RECORDS([Table])
APPLY TO SELECTION([Table];[Table]Pro_object:=WP New([Table]Old_blob))
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> On Sep 13, 2016, at 10:30 AM, BrianW wrote:
>
> Not sure if this is the appropriate place to place this question. If not, my
> apologies, and please point me to the rig
SFTP. The letters are similar, but the protocols are totally unrelated. I
ended up creating some 4D wrapper methods that can implement both protocols.
Somewhat painful using LEP, but completely doable on the Mac.
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can use "ssh-keygen" on macOS (man
ssh-keygen for details).
Using a "client certificate supplied to us for encrypting payments via LAUNCH
EXTERNAL PROCES using PHP cURL" sounds like something unrelated to SFTP.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
I'm also waiting to be convinced that 4D Client performance with the new
network layer on on par with version 15. It seems the majority of comments have
been negative. It would be great to hear some success stories for 64bit 4D
Cli
;t think I have seen it in the last few weeks since upgrading from 16.1HF2
to 16.2.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Sep 18, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> Has anyone who uses v16 run across false record locks being reported?
>
&g
ding to 16.2. This is a single user application with one
process accessing the record. There is a trigger, but it just assigns one field
and nothing else (no "fancy stuff").
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That should work without problems. PgSQL Select and PgSQL Execute mostly do the
same things except Execute does not return rows. The "returning" clause makes
it a set returning SQL command so PgSQL Select is the right plugin command.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Sep 21, 2017, at 9:3
"id" column value of
your table, the returning clause is what you want. If you use PgSQL Get Last
Insert Row ID, you would have to execute another query to lookup the row by OID
and then get the value.
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> On Sep 21, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Jeffrey Kain wrote:
>
the selection constants.
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> On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> *ST SET ATTRIBUTES*(oWPdoc;$offset;iwpOffset;atStyles{1})
>
> How would the styles be built? I've tried things like
>
> $style:
Windows or mixed? Is the server Mac or Windows? For an all Mac
installation, using the old network layer means keeping 32-bit 4D. Finally
getting to 64-bit 4D was one of the primary benefits of version 16 on the Mac.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:33 PM, John DeSoi wrote:
>
> I still think there is a new bug in version 16, but I have not seen it happen
> again since upgrading to 16.2. This is a single user application with one
> process accessing the record. There is a trigger, but it just assig
Not the case here. Table is set to READ WRITE at the start of the process and
never changed.
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> On Oct 3, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
>
> one thing that bit me in earlier versions (not v16) is Read Only.
> A record is
. It is a lot of time and
effort and there are only so many hours in a day.
I find it useful when other developers report their problems and experiences
(good and bad) on this list. Other developers with the same problem may have
identified a helpful work-around or alternative solution.
John
not seen this issue previously in 16.2. The effort
for 4D to follow this list (assuming they already do) is tiny compared to
filing a bug without a reproducible test case. If the information on this list
is not helpful to 4D in any way, they are free to ignore it. I find
observations posted by
(Current process;1) after the
CALL PROCESS command.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ken Daniel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> Koen & Steve, thanks for the tip, but in this case I am using POST
> KEY(Character code(".");Comman
tures embedded in specially
encoded comments where I can easily activate the changes after the conversion
from 15.
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> On Oct 10, 2017, at 8:13 AM, David Adams via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey John, if you still need to fix what you descri
er 10 seconds
in single user mode. 4D has to load a lot of index pages. Does not seem to be a
problem for cluster b-tree indexed fields.
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> On Oct 12, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> But the longint field has uni
oss documents.
I also came across this today: ProseMirror, A toolkit for building rich-text
editors on the web.
http://prosemirror.net
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be try a shorter (< 32 character file name). I tried displaying PDFs on the
Mac from the temporary folder and could not get it to work (long and strange
path names). Seems to work fine from other directories with relatively short
file names (tested 15.4 and 16.2 Mac).
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)?
I don't think it is possible (unless you hack the source yourself). I went to a
lot of trouble just to manage the last reference open and hide it rather than
closing it so that the next time it is used it opens where th
You may have said so earlier, but is the machine set to never sleep in the
Energy control panel?
RE: caffeinate
If you launch 4D using caffeinate /path/to/4d, the machine should not go to
sleep until 4D quits. See also the -w option where you can have 4D set it up
after it has started.
John
On the Mac I notice a significant slowdown if I have more than a few methods
open that have a lot of code. Closing the big methods seems to fix the problem.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 3:03 PM, stardata.info via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> I use 4
You should add a case to compare the size before using the digest method.
Another option not mentioned is comparing the BASE64 encoding. No idea how that
might compare with generating a digest.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 12:47 AM, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.
Are there database requests coming in via the web server at the time of the
backup? Have you tried turning off the web server during backup? Or at least
return an error response if access to the database is needed when backup is
running.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 8:40
Is there an Acrobat PDF plugin in /Library/Internet Plug-ins/ or
~/Library/Internet Plug-ins/? Try removing it.
http://osxdaily.com/2014/10/05/delete-adobe-acrobat-reader-safari-plugin/
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
> <4d_tech@lis
16.2 on the same computer.
Just wanted to mention it for those that might be considering using 10.13 with
4D 15. Method editing is not only slow, but startup time and any database
operation seems perceptively slower. Probably no surprise since 4D 15 is not
certified to work with 10.13.
John DeSoi
configuration.
The server has been running automated procedures for weeks. I have not seen the
DELAY PROCESS hanging bug previously discussed here.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> When I read that Apple was
Anything unusual about the LEP call -- just using locals and specifying all of
them? That alone should make it execute in blocking mode. E.g.
LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS($cmd;$in;$out;$err)
Lots of bugs have been fixed since 16.0. Have you tried 16.2?
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 10
works and you can trace method calls on both sides of the interface.
There is no way this would work if the client blocked execution until the end
of the response.
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property set for
the menu item to work. I get a error that the method is not found otherwise.
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> On Dec 18, 2017, at 7:59 AM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is working for me in version 16 (16.3). I set the main menu bar with a
> callback to the host. Then the component appends some additional menus
> created in the co
nificance?
I think making every method functional with minimal side effects is a good
goal. But I don't think it is possible to write understandable and maintainable
4D code using a purely functional approach.
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ystems and some newer languages were
designed with functional support features specifically for this purpose. For
example see Clojure, Haskell, and Erlang.
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Var;$varName;$tableNum;$fieldNum) `$varName returns ""
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Same problem, always empty.
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> On Dec 28, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
>
> what about:
> C_TEXT(myTextVar)
> C_POINTER($myPointer)
> C_TEXT($varName)
> C_LONGINT($tableNum;$fieldNum)
>
> $myPoint
es it.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Jan 5, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> I wonder if this might be related to the Server Process Frozen issue lots of
> us have been experiencing. It sounds like the resu
execution process and
see that happens.
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> On Jan 8, 2018, at 1:39 AM, Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
>> That's not really a solution though, we'd have to write like a process
>> watching that would have t
minimized in the dock are not included in the WINDOW LIST. All of
this makes it a lot more complicated to use CALL FORM when all you have is a
process number and need to determine the window reference.
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The code below works for me (16.3) without errors. Are you passing the
validation parameter?
C_TEXT($struct;$xml)
EXPORT STRUCTURE($struct)
$xml:=DOM Parse XML variable($struct)
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
.
It is somewhat complicated to implement, but provide a seamless interface for
scrolling large record sets without loading everything into memory.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Jan 23, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Jim Dorrance via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> What I am doing now
ill get it. Maybe you have to license it again after all the old
licenses are removed.
>
> The MBP computer is a 2013 model and no Touch Bar 16 Gb Ram.
>
> Thinking what to try next...
Have you looked at the crash reports? Sometimes those give a clue. Open Console
and clic
You can do this with the default data file. The new model allows you to startup
your app and then switch to another database without showing the open database
dialog. You can switch to an existing one or create a new one on the fly.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:35 PM, macji
There are no work-arounds for runtime errors. 4D throws up an error dialog and
allows the end user to decide what to do, even if executing on 4D Server or in
a web process.
See feature request and discussion here:
http://forums.4d.com/Post/EN/17994245/1/19128922
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On
folder) in
client server mode would be in ~/Library/Caches/4D
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Stephen Shaw via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> 3. Error -43 is returned on the following line
>$error:=SMTP_Attachment ($smtp_id; $document; 2; 0;
ports with something else. Is anyone successfully
using 64 bit Quick Reports on a form with a custom interface? I could not find
any demo databases - there is one for a summit presentation, but that is only
available to attendees.
John D
the display
not to sleep and that seemed to solve the problem.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Mar 12, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Justin Leavens via 4D_Tech
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> I've got a Mac server 16.3 (64-bit Merged) that periodically will hang when a
> backup
- it
hangs or becomes disconnected. This worked without problems in version 15. No
problems executing the same method from the client directly.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Justin Leavens via 4D_Tech
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, this is
ning curve.
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> On Mar 16, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Bob Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> So my questions are:
>> What are best practices for setting up an enterable HTML table that
have. On the Mac, this is located in
4D.app/Contents/Plugins/4DInternetCommands.bundle
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Bob Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
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> I feel a bit silly, but I've just killed an hour looking for the v16
> v
indexes 0-246) empty elements in the collection.
Would love to hear confirmation or denial from some one at 4D that knows the
internals.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> Please. You mean like an array in
ll be waiting for a while...
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Timothy Penner wrote:
>
> Actually, it does create 247 empty elements (null to be exact).
>
> Try it and look in the debugger.
place to start. Just be sure to ask which hardware options support gigabit WAN.
I know the lowest end option they have maxes out well below 1000 Mbs.
https://www.pfsense.org/products/
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Mar 22, 2018, at 7:03 PM, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.c
What 4D version? Mac or Windows?
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Sujit Shah via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
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> We are having random occasional freezing of the Web Server with several
> SOAP call processes accumulating on the Server Process window with a
> "waiting for flag" state. Ev
I had tremendous problems with "waiting for flag" lockups in version 14 (Mac
Server) related to transactions. No more problems after upgrading to version 15.
It was a long road, hope you can find it.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:29 PM, Sujit Shah via 4D_Tech <4d_t
4d.fr/fixedbugslist?Version=16.3_HF2
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> On Apr 18, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> The problem I am running into is that the body text is now
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