[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: high contrast accessibility application guidelines?

2022-10-12 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Tue, 2022-10-11 at 15:20 +, Michael Weghorn wrote: > On 10/10/2022 22.02, Caolán McNamara wrote: > > > As far as I can see in impress/draw/shapes we ignore/force- > > highcontrast text color, line color and fill colors, and there's a > > certain logic to that. > > On the other hand in

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: high contrast accessibility application guidelines?

2022-10-11 Thread V Stuart Foote
From: Michael Weghorn Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 10:20 AM To: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org ; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: high contrast accessibility application guidelines? **EXTERNAL EMAIL** This email

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: high contrast accessibility application guidelines?

2022-10-11 Thread Michael Weghorn
[Adding the accessibility mailing list, somebody on that list might have more insights] On 10/10/2022 22.02, Caolán McNamara wrote: Is there a set of guidelines as to the intent of high contrast within documents? Not sure I grasp the context of this question (s. below), but from a quick

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-24 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 22/06/2022 14.44, Jason White wrote: Note also that GTK 4 implements its own accessibility API, which, under Linux, connects directly to the running AT-SPI 2 demon. This approach may be an option in the future when the GTK 4 accessibility support matures. In other words, GTK is migrating

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-09 Thread Marco Zehe
...@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS] On 09.06.22 11:21, Michael Weghorn wrote: > I suppose that supporting new UIA concepts/features in addition would > probably require more fundamental changes than "just&qu

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-09 Thread Michael Weghorn
Hi Marco, all, On 09/06/2022 09.39, Marco Zehe wrote: AFAIK, QT exposes accessibility information to UIA on Windows. They switched over from an MSAA implementation to UIA some time in the QT5 time frame: https://www.qt.io/blog/2018/02/20/qt-5-11-brings-new-accessibility-backend-windows.

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-09 Thread Marco Zehe
@global.libreoffice.org Cc: libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org; libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS] Hi Marco, On 08/06/2022 13.09, Marco Zehe wrote: > JAWS does support IAccessible2, but o

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-09 Thread Michael Weghorn
ne I think. And getting Vispero on board for JAWS support is an even bigger fish to fry. Marco -Original Message- From: Jason White Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 9:34 PM To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 On

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-09 Thread Michael Weghorn
Hi Marco, On 08/06/2022 13.09, Marco Zehe wrote: JAWS does support IAccessible2, but only if it needs to, like in Firefox, and some parts of Chromium-based browsers. However, with the UI Automation implementation for the latter becoming stronger, there might be a time when JAWS moves to UIA

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-08 Thread Marco Zehe
...@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS] Hi Christophe, On 07/06/2022 12.14, Christophe Strobbe wrote: > After some online searching, it seems that JAWS at least used to support > IAccessible2, originally

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-08 Thread Marco Zehe
essibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 On 7/6/22 06:07, Michael Weghorn wrote: > I tried again with just a single screen instead of two, and then NVDA > announces "Slide 1", then reads out the slide content, and when

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-08 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 07/06/2022 21.34, Jason White wrote: Yes. If I recall correctly, under MS-Windows/PowerPoint, NVDA and JAWS both support arrow key navigation in the slide contents when the slides are being presented (i.e., after F5 is used to start a presentation). Ideally, one should be able to do the

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
Hi Christophe, On 07/06/2022 12.14, Christophe Strobbe wrote: After some online searching, it seems that JAWS at least used to support IAccessible2, originally mainly for IBM Lotus Symphony. According to a tweet by Marco Zehe from December last year, JAWS handles Chromium and Edge via

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-07 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi Michael, All, (Apologies if this message has too many addressees; I'm not sure which ones I should drop.) After some online searching, it seems that JAWS at least used to support IAccessible2, originally mainly for IBM Lotus Symphony. According to a tweet by Marco Zehe from December last

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 07/06/2022 11.54, Michael Weghorn wrote: Could you please explain what the expected (and actual) behavior would be when showing an Impress presentation? I think it makes sense to create a bug report to keep track of this (and I'd be happy to do so, but don't know what to write). (In a

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 22.13, Jason White wrote: On 31/5/22 14:11, David P Á wrote: Other problem with accessibility is comments and tracked changes on Writer. The issues with these systems make using Writer problematic in professional settings. I agree, and in particular, the screen

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 14.20, Jason White wrote: It seems to be very much a matter of unaddressed bugs and regressions. The Document Foundation advertised a contract (presumably fulfilled by now) to rewrite the accessibility regression testing infrastructure in C++. FWIW, that conversion to C++ is

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 16.24, Christophe Strobbe wrote: I don't have a comprehensive overview of LibreOffice UI accessibility either, unfortunately. However, if you are looking for ways to prioritise issues, one way may be based on the accessibility requirements in the ETSI standard EN 301 549, which

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 12.36, Caolán McNamara wrote: If the overview is there are a thousand little things and not a small set of large scale specific projects then that's still a useful overview. We could still sweep them into some general themes. Indeed. Thanks for adding the subtopics that came up

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 12.01, Colomban Wendling wrote: * Only on-screen elements of the document are exposed to ATs.  This is on purpose probably for performance (not sure if we have any numbers to base it on?) so elements are lazy-loaded and destroyed, but it has non-trivial impact on various AT

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-03 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Tue, 2022-05-31 at 16:24 +0200, Christophe Strobbe wrote: > Hi Michael, Caolán, all, > ... > (2) With regard to document formats, continue improving PDF/UA > conformance for exported PDF documents. ... (Institutions that have > been established to monitor compliance with the EU's Web >

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-03 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Tue, 2022-05-31 at 09:41 -0500, Devin Prater wrote: > A lot of toolbar widgets in Writer don't seem to be accessible, like > the ones to create forms and such. I created a sub category to capture the theme that various widgets have accessibility failings, your toolbar case, the extension

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-05-31 Thread Colomban Wendling
Le 31/05/2022 à 01:57, Michael Weghorn a écrit : On 30/05/2022 11.08, Caolán McNamara wrote: For a11y I don't know what is seen as the major problems, is there some fundamentally missing pieces (like in the past not having direct windows IAccessible2 support and needing a java access bridge).

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-05-31 Thread Devin Prater
A lot of toolbar widgets in Writer don't seem to be accessible, like the ones to create forms and such. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 9:31 AM Christophe Strobbe wrote: > Hi Michael, Caolán, all, > > I don't have a comprehensive overview of LibreOffice UI

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-05-31 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi Michael, Caolán, all, I don't have a comprehensive overview of LibreOffice UI accessibility either, unfortunately. However, if you are looking for ways to prioritise issues, one way may be based on the accessibility requirements in the ETSI standard EN 301 549, which defines the

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-05-31 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2022-05-30 at 23:57 +, Michael Weghorn wrote: > On 30/05/2022 11.08, Caolán McNamara wrote: > > For a11y I don't know what is seen as the major problems, is there > > some fundamentally missing pieces (like in the past not having > > direct windows IAccessible2 support and needing a

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-05-30 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 30/05/2022 11.08, Caolán McNamara wrote: For a11y I don't know what is seen as the major problems, is there some fundamentally missing pieces (like in the past not having direct windows IAccessible2 support and needing a java access bridge). Or are the fundamentals ok and its a matter of a

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Sluggishness with NVDA and Calc

2021-12-19 Thread Michael Weghorn
Hi Richard, thanks a lot for the bug reports! I've set the bugs to confirmed in Bugzilla and have added them to the Windows accessibility meta bug. One more note for the announcement of the full hierarchy: If that bothers you a lot, pressing right arrow, then left arrow should be a usable

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [orca-list] Arch Linux: LibreOffice 7 unable to read documents in Writer with Orca

2021-02-18 Thread Devin Prater
This has been resolved by adding this to my .bashrc file: ``` sh |export SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3 GTK_MODULES="gail:atk-bridge"| |```| | | |I have no idea how LibreOffice 6 worked without this, but I'm glad it works again at least.| | | On 2/18/21 3:39 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Hi David.

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Universal Design and changing the defaults to comply with real universal design, especially with regards to colour background.

2019-09-17 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi Adrian, If this is about the default background colour for documents as you view them, are aware of the existing options? See Tools > Options > Application colors > Document background: you can change the document background to basically any RGB colour. This affects how the document background

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Universal Design and changing the defaults to comply with real universal design, especially with regards to colour background.

2019-09-14 Thread Adrian Whyatt
Left out a dot in the address On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 4:24 PM Adrian Whyatt wrote: > Re:Universal Design and changing the defaults to comply with real > universal design, especially with regards to colour background. > > To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org. > > Dear Libre Office, > > This

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar out of Experimental

2018-11-16 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Le 06/11/2018 à 08:43, kainz.a a écrit : I talked at Munich Hackfest about the big open bugs - bad keyboard navigation you can use F6 like in every other LibO app (F6 switch from Menubar to Toolbar to NB to Sidebar), but it would be awesome if svtlo-ManagedMenuButton will support keyboard

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: GPII DeveloperSpace for a11y technology - useful resource?

2017-11-07 Thread Sophie
Hi Thorsten, Le 07/11/2017 à 02:04, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : > Hi, > > just came across https://ds.gpii.net/ - self-describing as the > "one-stop place to find resources, components and people to conceive, > develop, test and market novel accessible solutions". Interesting, thanks for the

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Accessibility-adaptive software complementing LibreOffice?

2016-11-15 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Yousuf, Thanks for the links. Marc Le 2016-11-11 à 07:00, Yousuf Philips a écrit : Hi Marc, You can find info here. https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/accessibility/ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility Yousuf -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice Impress: Orca announces a number before the content of all lines, is it a bug?

2016-07-17 Thread Marc Paré
Hi all, Le 2016-07-12 à 11:12, Alex ARNAUD a écrit : Dear LibreOffice and Orca community, with the latest LibreOffice Impress (5.1.4) and the latest Orca (3.20.2), in sections, Orca announces the paragraph number before all text. Steps to reproduce : 1) Open LibreOffice Impress 2) Enter in a

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Recording devices tab - getting it to work

2016-06-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I don't know if the Accessibility Mailing List might be able to help more with this question. I thought it might be good to forwards it to them jic. To summarise a bit, it is on an unusually healthy Windows 7 system. Regards from Tom :) On 27 June 2016 at 20:53, charles meyer

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Problems Installing the newer version

2016-05-18 Thread nasrin khaksar
hi. libreoffice newer version can be installed and it does not need to uninstall the previous version! hope thats help. thanks and god bless you. On 5/18/16, pdkarnik wrote: > Thanks mate. Solved my update problem, finally. > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:22 PM, V Stuart Foote

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Problems Installing the newer version

2016-05-18 Thread pdkarnik
Thanks mate. Solved my update problem, finally. On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:22 PM, V Stuart Foote [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: > Here is a link to the archive of prior releases. It lists a directory for > each release, and the builds

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Problems Installing the newer version

2016-05-18 Thread V Stuart Foote
Here is a link to the archive of prior releases. It lists a directory for each release, and the builds needed for each operating system are in their own sub-directory. So drill down to locate the specific release and OS build you need.

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Weird characters in Calc

2016-05-04 Thread Alex ARNAUD
On 05/02/2016 09:46 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: Hi, On Calc 5.1, Orca 3.20, I experience that when I move or enter some text, beyond Calc is slow (known issue), I see weird characters on my braille display. They blink, or just cover the regular word, well they strongly complicate using

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [orca-list] Weird characters in Calc

2016-05-04 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Sorry for the previous empty mail. I forgot to add the message content. Please see below. On 05/02/2016 09:46 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: Hi, On Calc 5.1, Orca 3.20, I experience that when I move or enter some text, beyond Calc is slow (known issue), I see weird characters on my braille

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re:

2015-11-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Is this mailing list still "active" or has it been stopped? Is there anywhere for people to discuss LibreOffice, ODF format with particular emphasis on accessibility features? Is this mailing list purely meant to be only about "technical support" for accessibility issues in LibreOffice?

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re:

2015-11-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
e in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-Re-tp4167385p4167391.html Sent from the Accessibility mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ma

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-design] Implementing accessibility in impress

2015-11-04 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi Alberto, you mean when going to the next slide its content is being read? Sounds as if it works out of the box or never because of the SR capabilities. Or am I wrong? Cheers, Heiko PS: CC'ing to accessibility@global.libreoffice.org which might be the better place; no idea how much traffic

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Happy Christmas all! :)

2014-12-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I hope everyone had or is having a good Christmas day, even if you don't celebrate it as being a special day. Many regards to all from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

RE: Re : [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LO and Mac

2014-12-05 Thread David Goldfield
To: David Goldfield Cc: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Re : [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LO and Mac Hi :) Thanks :)) I didn't know about Alt being a way to get into or out of menus/ribbon-bar. On Ubuntu it brings up the HUD which allows people to type in what they want to do

Re : [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LO and Mac

2014-12-03 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi. Thanks for this info. Actually I wonder how LO behaves with voiceover, that is, is it possible to browse between toolbars, in the menus, the dialogs, etc. For example, is it easy to handle styles and charachters formatting? The question is asked to me by a blind user to do tests. I am

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Re : Re: LO and Mac

2014-12-03 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 03/12/2014 10:38, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit : Hi Jean-Philippe, Thanks for this info. Actually I wonder how LO behaves with voiceover, that is, is it possible to browse between toolbars, in the menus, the dialogs, etc. For example, is it easy to handle styles and charachters

RE: Re : [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LO and Mac

2014-12-03 Thread David Goldfield
Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 6:15 AM To: MENGUAL Jean-Philippe Cc: Alex Thurgood; Accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Re : [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LO and Mac Hi :) I am mildly curious about how people work with screen

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Re : [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LO and Mac

2014-12-03 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Thanks for this excellent answer, full and clear. I will forward it to my friend. He uses Mac yes, and would like to know the accessibility level on LO. Unfortunately he doesn't speak English, but I do interface without problems. Thanks, Best regards, Le 03/12/2014 14:56, Niklas

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sphinx - voice translation - Linux

2014-12-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am wondering if anyone here uses any speech recognition packages or has any idea about which ones work well. I think the preference is for something working well on Linux but it might be interesting to hear about others. I am fairly sure Macs used to have something about 20 years ago.

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 4.4.o Dev

2014-11-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
Top posting response to PM from Carlos... HI Carlos, Usually better to push these exchanges via the mail list -- accessibility@global.libreoffice.org. Please use the Nabble interface for convenience: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility-f2006038.html AT support issues are not

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Calc and Accessibility

2014-10-14 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Le 14/10/2014 19:44, V Stuart Foote a écrit : David, Nope, still broken. However remains easily worked around with an F2 change to formula bar and Esc to return to spreadsheet table and regain focus for the cell. After that, should have AccEvent announcement of cursor driven movement.

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Base and Orca Issue

2014-06-23 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 23/06/2014 19:27, Hunter Jozwiak a écrit : Hi, I am trying to input records in to a database I've made via a form so I can learn how to use databases under LibreOffice. I was able to make the forms and tables easily enough, but when I press enter on the form, Orca won't speak anything.

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Base and Orca Issue

2014-06-23 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 23/06/2014 19:27, Hunter Jozwiak a écrit : Hi again, I am trying to input records in to a database I've made via a form so I can learn how to use databases under LibreOffice. I was able to make the forms and tables easily enough, but when I press enter on the form, Orca won't speak

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: About Role::RADIO_BUTTON and Role::CHECK_BUTTON

2014-02-26 Thread Niklas Johansson
Hi Julien julien2412 [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] skrev 2014-02-26 13:49: Hello, Following this commit: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=09a1c9d31fb8756d6c7157ea1056acfbfea64784 Caolán suggested, and I think he's right, it would make even more sense to

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: About Role::RADIO_BUTTON and Role::CHECK_BUTTON

2014-02-26 Thread Niklas Johansson
I'm very sorry I mislead you with a copy and paste error in my previous message. TIB_CHECKABLE should have been TIB_RADIOCHECK. So TIB_CHECKABLE = Role::CHECK_BUTTON And TIB_RADIOCHECK = Role::RADIO_BUTTON So it is not trickier than you thought. I really need to start triple check my messages

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: About Role::RADIO_BUTTON and Role::CHECK_BUTTON

2014-02-26 Thread Julien Nabet
I gave a try but it failed since accessibleRole::CHECK_BUTTONdoesn't exist (and no Role::CHECK_BUTTON) I give up with this. Julien On 26/02/2014 22:17, Niklas Johansson wrote: I'm very sorry I mislead you with a copy and paste error in my previous message. TIB_CHECKABLE should have been

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 test builds available

2013-06-21 Thread Tom
. Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-Re-LibreOffice-4-1-0-RC1-test-builds-available-tp4062413p4062432.html Sent from the Accessibility mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 test builds available

2013-06-21 Thread V Stuart Foote
is WRITE_REGISTRY not WRITEREGISTRY. So set: WRITE_REGISTRY=1 -- to write installation into Windows Registry; or WRITE_REGISTRY=0 -- for no Windows Registry changes pushed from installer -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-Re

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Accessibility issues - BLIND USER

2013-02-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry i didn't forward this to the right list earlier!  Have you had any luck solving the problems?  I'm not sure if you are subscribed to the right lists so i have made sure you are being CC'd so that you get the responses. Apols and regards from Tom :) 

Re: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-31 Thread Fernando Botelho
Hi everyone, I am new on the list, but I just want to add my two cents on what Stuart is suggesting. First, I am in agreement. Second, I would like to suggest that accessibility-related bugs be ranked, even if informally, so that when smaller projects such as my own--which will not be able

Re: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-31 Thread Tom Davies
, 31 January 2013, 11:55 Subject: Re: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help Hi everyone, I am new on the list, but I just want to add my two cents on what Stuart is suggesting. First, I am in agreement. Second, I would like

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
.  Regards from Tom :)  From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2013, 3:57 Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help Hi Tom, Le

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
To: Marc Paré; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help Hi :) This is exactly why i think the Accessibility Team really needs a Community Development person to be employed

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I wondered if anyone here is interested in putting forwards ideas for where money should be targeted to improve accessibility.  No-one on this list backed my ideas so i couldn't put them forwards.  Is everyone happy with accessibility in LibreOffice?  Is it all working perfectly all the

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Accessibility Team -- Making a Difference

2012-12-10 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi everybody, Am Sa, 8.12.2012, 09:49 schrieb Sophie Gautier: Hi Marc, all On 04/12/2012 07:40, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Sophie, (...) BTW, are you testing ORCA on Mageia? No, I'm on Debian. Currently, I've not time to do QA unfortunately. There is also a tool that I was using named Accerciser

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Accessibility Team -- Making a Difference

2012-12-03 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Sophie, Let us know if you need some help. BTW, are you testing ORCA on Mageia? Marc Le 2012-12-03 14:31, Sophie Gautier a écrit : Hi Marc, A top post for a short answer :) I'm usually testing LibreOffice with Orca. I've also in mind to port the FAQ we had on OOo to LibO in English and

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice and VoiceOver

2012-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice and VoiceOver Isn't there some port of open/libreoffice specifically designed for the Mac called Neo Office or something like that?  Might that work for him? Alex M -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-23 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Tom, We are not looking for anything too complicated. Just put the request into a couple of sentences that are clear enough for people to understand it as a wishlist. It should be clear as to what is being requested. It can be a simple as: Wishlist Item: Rationale: Estimated cost:

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-22 Thread Tom Davies
November 2012, 15:48 Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist This may be more a question to Florian as well as the accessibility team. As LibreOffice Accessibility is a barrier to the acceptance of LibreOffice in many governmental/educational/institutional systems worldwide, would

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-11-22 06:30, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) +1 I like the sound of ... It is sometimes good to meet as a team with 3rd party software providers to see what kind of progress or what type of cooperative development could take place. Could TDF buy dev time from RedHat or SUSE or Canonical or

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Status of LibreOffice/Orca-related bugs

2012-11-22 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Jason Le 2012-11-21 23:52, Jason White a écrit : Following the recent discussion here, I ran a simple search of Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=libreoffice+orca which should pick up most of the ATK-related accessibility bugs. What is interesting to note is

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-22 Thread Tom Davies
: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist Le 2012-11-22 06:30, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) +1 I like the sound of ... It is sometimes good to meet as a team with 3rd party software providers to see what kind of progress or what type of cooperative development could take place. Could

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-21 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Alex, Le 2012-11-20 12:40, Alex Midence a écrit : Hi, One area that I'd like addressed is Impress accessibility in Linux. The authoring and presenting experience is far behind that which can be had using MS tools on Windows with a screen reader. I am a professional trainer and use

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-21 Thread Tom Davies
' accessibility@global.libreoffice.org; 'Florian Effenberger' flo...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 17:40 Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist Hi, One area that I'd like addressed is Impress accessibility in Linux.  The authoring and presenting

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-21 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Tom Le 2012-11-21 11:23, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) +1 Accessibility is important. Unfortunately in LO it seems to heavily and thoroughly depend on Java which the entire rest of the project is trying to break free from. Apparently under Apache their version of OpenOffice is going to

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-21 Thread Rob Snelders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, As far as I think LibreOffice has a big shortage on Marketing, I don't want to disrespect the marketing-team of LibreOffice, but I think there are to few people doing marketing, and the tools they have are limited. I think we can make a huge

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-20 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi, (I was away from this list for a while because I moved to a different employer and a different country earlier this year.) Am Di, 20.11.2012, 16:48 schrieb Marc Paré: (...) To the accessibility team, if there was funding available for such a thing, what would your items be and in order

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-20 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-11-20 11:39, Christophe Strobbe a écrit : Not sure if it necessary to fund a conference. Do you mean travel costs? The LibreOffice conferences should be good opportunities, but my experience in Paris last year was that it is difficult to get developers to attend an accessibility

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-20 Thread Alex Midence
to home for me. Thanks. Alex -Original Message- From: Christophe Strobbe [mailto:stro...@hdm-stuttgart.de] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:39 AM To: m...@marcpare.com; LibO Mailing List Accessibility; Florian Effenberger Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-19 Thread Marc Paré
Hi everyone, Just to clarify. We are really looking for your team's wishlist and it must be of budgetary consideration. This is not a wishlist for new UX-designs, new logos etc. The wishlist should really be discussed with your other team members so that we can get a better view of the needs

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-18 Thread Marc Paré
Hi everyone, Just a reminder to your teams about this. We are seriously looking at different teams' wishlists. Please do take a little time out of your busy schedule and speak to your teams about any funding for items that you think may be of importance to your team or the enhance the

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Survey about newcomer experience - Thank you + reminder

2012-10-25 Thread Tom Davies
From: kevouze kevin.cari...@vuw.ac.nz To: us...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2012, 21:04 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Survey about newcomer experience - Thank you + reminder Thank you! Thank you to all who took part in the survey. Your

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Adding Accessibility component to Bug Assistant

2012-09-04 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Rainer, Le 2012-09-03 05:19, Rainer Bielefeld a écrit : Rainer Bielefeld schrieb: the advantage of an Accessibility Component would be that it can easily be selected from a pulldown, Hello, an additional Adventage of the component Solution would be that it would be possible to do some

[libreoffice-accessibility] RE: Ubuntu LiveCd Wubi - was Java Nightmare

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Midence
What you say is true but, I was going for simplicity and ease of setup for someone unfamiliar with Linux. I understood everything you wrote but, that's just because I'm a Linuxoid who likes getting downand dirty with the cli. Somebody coming from Windows may not be. Using a live CD is fast and

[libreoffice-accessibility] RE: Ubuntu LiveCd Wubi - was Java Nightmare

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Midence
Forgot to address the magnification question directly. I know of three magnification packages in Linux: 1.Gnome-mag 2. KMag 3. Compiz screen magnifier (not sure the name) Alex M From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Libo 3.6 Broken with Screen readers

2012-08-18 Thread Tom Davies
: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Libo 3.6 Broken with Screen readers To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 18 August, 2012, 3:00 Hi David, Le 2012-08-16 12:07, David Goldfield a écrit : Well, I can confirm that 3.6 accessibility seems to be totally broken.  I've installed

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Libo 3.6 Broken with Screen readers

2012-08-17 Thread Marc Paré
Hi David, Le 2012-08-16 12:07, David Goldfield a écrit : Well, I can confirm that 3.6 accessibility seems to be totally broken. I've installed the latest version of Java 7 with Ninite's installer along with the Java Access Bridge via Jamal Mazrui's JWin installer. I have no accessibility

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Math and accessibility for the visually impaired

2012-04-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I have forwarded this to the accessibility list which is usually faster and better at answering these problems than the Users List.  Unfortunately protonpusher is not subscribed to the Accessibility List (i think) so please CC replies directly to him/her.  Thanks and regards from Tom

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 3.5 Not working with Java Access Bridge 2.02

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Stahl
On 16/02/12 16:41, David Goldfield wrote: Hi. I am a visually impaired user of Libreoffice. I am able to use it with the free open source screen reader NVDA, available from www.nvda-project.orghttp://www.nvda-project.org. It has always been necessary that the Java Access Bridge be installed

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: OpenOffice.org code on Apache: IAccessible2 ?

2011-09-12 Thread Malte Timmermann
Michael Stahl and Dennis Hamilton are right wrt IA2 CWSes listed below. accfixes2 is ready for QA, but was intended to be integrated _after_ 3.4 just to make sure we don't break Accessibility on some other platform short before the release. But feel free to integrate, and do some testing on

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: address change working

2011-06-27 Thread Bruce Martin
Hi Florian: I am more of a sandybagger here on what was the Oo Users and discuss groups. I had also noticed your very capable contributions along the way (kudos) and surmised when I saw you had gone towards LibreOffice that likely you and enough more were anxious about the danger of Open

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: changes for this mailing list

2011-05-27 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello Dennis, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on 2011-05-26 18.20: And who is this capital-C Community of which you speak? (I was teasing about founders.libreoffice.org, but not members.libreoffice.org.) What was done to engage all effected parties? the Community is all of us, the people

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-documentation] changes for this mailing list

2011-05-26 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-05-25 20.25: This has been discussed 'ad nauseum' on the website list and probably other places although i think it was some time ago and 'shelved' as being too low-priority at the time. I haven't checked in with the website list for many months but i would