Re: [AI] Accessibility events or fests in colleges

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, it is true that most of our problems arise more due to the lack of 
awairness on the part of the sighted persons than our disability. Those of us, 
who are well-placed in society have to take an initiative in creating and 
promoting this awairness. In my college I had aranged one such event and had 
invited Mr. Suhas Karnik to speak on this issue. I myself have delivered 
several lectures in schools and colleges not only almost all over Maharashtra 
but  also in Goa and Karnataka. While doing so, our approach should be that of 
orienting and explaining people rather than of blaming or criticizing them.  We 
must actively participate in different public activities and functions. I have 
done very little work in institutes working for the blind. But for the last  45 
years I have worked as an advocate of the blind.
  - Original Message - 
  From: anirudh rao 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility events or fests in colleges


  it is a very good suggestion indeed.

  I have studied in an inclusive college and teach in a private college now.
  I had to go through a lot of struggles especially while convincing the 
management to take me as a faculty as they were unaware of the disability and 
were doubtful.
  the question is not whether they understand the whole content of the lectures 
but, it would give an exposure to the participants to the realm of disability.


  On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 10:13 PM Saurav Hegde  wrote:

Hello all,
Hope everyone is in great health.
Few days ago, I read saksham's mail about the accessibility events at LPU 
on this group.
It is a great initiative, I feel.
On that, I got an idea, such kind of events should be held in as many 
colleges as possible.
There should be organisations that go and demonstrate assistive 
technologies and give lectures on problems faced by the disabled and available 
solutions.
For example, I study at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune.
People there are quite helpful, they will assist you if  you ask and even 
approach you themselves, if they see you struggling in anyway.
However, no one exactly knows about assistive technologies much and how 
blind people exactly function.
Most know  only few things, the blind cane, braille (maybe some) and have 
weird myths like blind people have some super cense.
A pessimistic thought could be that, sited are not interested in all of 
this, but I believe that some will be, only they don't know much about all of 
this.
I had to make an audio clip explaining how does a screen reader work and 
share on my whatsap group because people weren't understanding, how am I using 
a phone.
I know the mail has gotten a bit long, but I felt a need to put out this 
suggestion.
If blind and sited collaborate somehow, it could bring out even better 
results.


Regards,
Saurav Hegde

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Re: [AI] Congrachulations to Amar Jain

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

No, I haven't sent any link. The news of his address has appeared on the 
face book.
- Original Message - 
From: "Parimala Bhat" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Congrachulations to Amar Jain



have you sent the link? if you have, i  can not find it.

On 8/16/23, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
Hello members, just now listened to Amar Jain's address delivered before 
the

Hounerable High Court. Very confedant and assertive. He is an enjal of
Advocacy. The sound is slightly cracking at some places, but the address 
is
fully audible. Amar makes the VI community feel very proud. 
Congrachulations

to Amar and keep it up.
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar

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[AI] Congrachulations to Amar Jain

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello members, just now listened to Amar Jain's address delivered before the 
Hounerable High Court. Very confedant and assertive. He is an enjal of 
Advocacy. The sound is slightly cracking at some places, but the address is 
fully audible. Amar makes the VI community feel very proud. Congrachulations to 
Amar and keep it up.
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar

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Re: [AI] Research study regarding concept formation

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Radhika, in this context, instead of writing something I would like to 
talk to you many  things. Probably vision plays the most important role in 
concept formation. And when you do not have it, you have to depend upon other 
senses for concept formation. But I am afraid how far these other senses can 
compensate for visual perception. Naturally the concepts formed in the absence 
of vision are bound to be adversly affected. For example, the concept of 
beauty. Not only this, the concept formation of the totally blind and partially 
blind is bound to be different.  Again, those who are born blind and those who 
became blind afterwards have a different story to tell. Let us talk on phone. 
My contact number is 8108145337.
  Looking forward, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar- Original Message - 
  From: Radhika Rao 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2023 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Research study regarding concept formation


  Sure George.
  Look forward to hearing from you.
  Feel free to reach out for any questions.


  On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 12:18 PM  wrote:

Dear Radhika,



Travelling presently. Will revert once I am back in office.



Best,



George







From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On 
Behalf Of Radhika Rao
Sent: 04 August 2023 09:44
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Research study regarding concept formation



Hello everyone!
I'm a researcher at IIIT Hyderabad working under Prof. Priyanka Srivastava 
. We are working on a study to understand concept formation and organization 
with a focus on the visually impaired population.
Please help us by participating in this study and answering some questions 
through this google form link here .
This study is being conducted with the advice and support of LV Prasad Eye 
Institute (Link - https://www.lvpei.org/ ), and collaborating with Dr. Shrikant 
and Aishwarya Ma’am. 
We assure you that all participant data will be strictly used for research 
purposes only.
All the collected information shall stay confidential and anonymous.
Further, your personal information(name, email id) shall not be linked to 
the data even for research purposes. 
The entire process will take around 30 minutes.
Feel free to reach out to me for any queries.

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[AI] A small request

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, a sighted student of astrology is doing a project as a part of 
his studies. He is doing a project on blindness and astrology. He requires 
exact details of the vi persons. Only three things are required - your exact 
date of birth, exact  time and place of birth. Please send these details on my 
e-mail ID as 
sayane...@gmail.com
Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar 

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Re: [AI] Swaminathan Natarajan reports the BBC: "The Indian woman who writes exams for others who can't "

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Highly commendable service. What is her mother tongue? If I want to help her 
in some way, can you share her contact details?
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From: "avinash shahi" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 12:13 PM
Subject: [AI] Swaminathan Natarajan reports the BBC: "The Indian woman who 
writes exams for others who can't "



In 2007, a blind man asked Pushpa to guide him across a busy road in
Bengaluru, a teeming metropolis in southern India. After they reached
the other side, he made another request which changed her life.

"He asked me if I could write an exam for his friend," recalls Pushpa,
who goes by one name.

She said yes, but when the day came, her excitement gave way to
anxiety. She had never written an exam for someone else and didn't
know what to expect.

Many Indian students with physical or learning disabilities use a
scribe to write exams on their behalf. They dictate answers to the
scribe, who notes them down. As per government guidelines, scribes are
not allowed to write for any subject they themselves have studied at
university level. They can get a defined fee for exams conducted by
the government, but most of the time, the work is voluntary.

"It was three hours of tension. The candidate was dictating the
answers very slowly and was asking me to read out the questions again
and again," says Pushpa, who chose to help out for free.

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But she did enough to help 19-year-old Hema (who uses one name) pass
her school final exams.

Soon, an NGO working with blind people approached Pushpa for help and
then other students. In the past 16 years, Pushpa has written over
1,000 exams, free of charge.

"Exam halls are like a second home for me," she tells the BBC.

In addition to school and university exams, Pushpa has also helped
candidates appearing in entrance exams and selection tests for
government jobs.

Pushpa poses with two exam candidates who are visually impaired
IMAGE SOURCE,PUSHPA
Image caption,
Pushpa (centre) with two visually impaired examination candidates
"Now it is routine work for me. I don't feel any stress," she says,
adding that the experience has helped her learn about many subjects
she had no knowledge in - from history to statistics.

She has helped blind students, those with cerebral palsy, Down's
syndrome, autism, dyslexia and students incapacitated by accidents.

But it can be challenging sometimes. When working with students with
cerebral palsy, which often impairs speech, Pushpa says she has to
"concentrate hard and look at their [the students'] lip movements to
try to understand words".

But she takes it in stride. She has helped Karthik (he goes by one
name), who uses a wheelchair, write 47 exams.

It was a crises that forged their long association. During a school
exam, Kartik's scribe left abruptly and Pushpa stepped in to help. The
25-year-old says he greatly appreciates her continual support since
then.

"I'm lucky to get a scribe like Pushpa. Scribes are really like gods
for us," he says.

Working together for years has given them a great understanding of
each other - Karthik has now graduated and is preparing for government
clerical recruitment exams.

"I have written multiple exams for many students and each one has a
unique story," Pushpa says.

Pushpa with Karthik
IMAGE SOURCE,PUSHPA
Image caption,
Karthik says scribes like Pushpa are like gods to him
In the third week of March, Pushpa wrote a university degree exam
paper for 19-year-old Bhoomika Valmiki.

Ms Valmiki, who is blind, uses tools that convert text to audio to
study, but such apps cannot be used during exams.

"I can only move forward in my life if Pushpa writes for me," Ms Valmiki 
says.


"Pushpa was very patient and waited till I finished my answers. She
never distracted me and repeated my answers before writing them down,"
she adds.

Most people who seek Pushpa's help have struggled to get into
university, yet she says her empathy won't undermine her integrity.

"My job is to write what they say," she says. "I have no choice when
they ask me to tick a wrong answer or dictate a sentence which is
grammatically incorrect. I can't intervene."

When students who speak other languages struggle to understand English
words she translates the word for them. "That is the only help I
give," Pushpa says.

Pushpa with a blind candidate
IMAGE SOURCE,PUSHPA
Image caption,
Writing different exams has also helped to improve Pushpa's knowledge
Pushpa comes from a poor family. After her father was injured in an
accident, her mother worked hard to feed her and her brother.

"At one point, me and my brother had to drop out of school because we
couldn't pay fees," she recalls.

A stranger stepped in to help and Pushpa says she volunteers as a
scribe to give back this goodness to society.

She has taken up several small jobs over the years to make a living,
but the past few years have been particularly hard.

In 2018, her father died and in 2020, her brother passed away. A year
later, Pushpa, 

Re: [AI] Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind'

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, earlier also I  have written on this subject many times. Actually the 
point is that neither the Judiciary, nor the law makers, nor the RBI is in a 
position to comprehend the problem of the Vidually impaired. The things are 
getting more complicated because the old and new coins and notes are 
simultaniously in circulation. There are at least four different five rupee 
coins and four different two rupee coins in circulation. Similarly, the ten 
rupee, twenty rupee, fifty rupee and hundred rupee notes each of two different 
sizes are in circulation. Priviously I used to challange the sighted people to 
confuse me about the notes. But now I challange myself to identify the notes 
without getting confused.   All these coins and notes should be abolished and 
only a single set of coins and notes should be newly introduced. But the 
government would never do this. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
  - Original Message - 
  From: Prerna Sobti 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind'


  Hi All
  I agree with Harish ji . I am from delhi Mobile snatching is such a common 
thing and Delhi, even in other parts of India how can we rely on an app amongst 
all the traffic noise and the fear of losing your phone
  Artificial intelligence and apps R added support ar added support not the 
only solution for every challenge that we face
  Best


  Prerna Sobti 


On 11-May-2023, at 1:50 PM, Kanchan Pamnani  
wrote:



I think I need to clarify. 

1.   I copied a Times of India 
article about a pending case in Mumbai by the NAB regarding coins etc. 

2.   The Bombay High Court 
Judges were informed by RBI that they are waiting for a Report. 

3.   This is the report on which 
amar and George have worked as a part of the Delhi High Court matter. 

4.   So the Bombay High Court 
matter will rely on this report. I have explained to Amar how it will really 
work.

5.   We cannot do anything 
further at this stage unless this report is bad. It is currently out of our 
hands and no point in now commenting.

6.   What the newspaper article 
also said was that the Bombay Court has asked for a report on the ap for 
recognising currency. So I presumed that it is referring to Mani. 

7.   Only Harish has commented 
about this Ap. If we have to help this matter and ourselves then we must do a 
proper evaluation and send it to the NAB or If NAB India is on this list then 
they can pick it up and give good information to their lawyer. 

Kanchan 

8.



From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of harish kotian
Sent: 11 May 2023 12:23
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; prashant...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AI] Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind'



Mani app should be rejected as inherently failing in basic design and 
operational functionality.

Harish



On 5/11/2023 8:41 AM, prashant...@gmail.com wrote:

  What is most essential is to ask the Government to give a commitment and 
timeline for gradually withdrawing all existing notes and replacing them with a 
new series in which sizes and colours are distinctly different. This is the 
only long term solution. 



  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On 
Behalf Of George Abraham
  Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 10:19 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: RE: [AI] Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind'



  On March 7, 2019, the Prime Minister had release a set of coins  
comprising Rs20/-, Rs10/-, Rs5/-, Rs2/- and Rs1/-. All of them are distinctly 
different to both see and touch. The problem is that the RBI or whoever else 
responsible have not bothered to withdraw the old coins. Thus the scenario 
becomes more chaotic.



  George









  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
  Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 6:43 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: [AI] Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind'



  Please send your views on the mani app soon.

  Kanchan 

  Read the report below 

  ‘Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind’ 
rosy.seque...@timesgroup.com Mumbai : Bombay high court said the Reserve Bank 
of India must consider an expert committee’s suggestions and recommendations 
for making currency notes and coins friendly for the visually challenged. “It 
is high time the Reserve Bank of India considers it,’’ said Acting Chief 
Justice Sanjay Gangapurwala and Justice Sandeep Marne on May 3. They heard a 
2019 PIL by National Association for the Blind (NAB) to direct RBI to introduce 
“blind-friendly” currency notes/coins as the new currency and coins are 
difficult

Re: [AI] Eyeway Conversations with Nupur Joshi

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

But where is the link to hear the conversation?
  - Original Message - 
  From: George Abraham 
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2023 8:33 PM
  Subject: [AI] Eyeway Conversations with Nupur Joshi


  In this episode of Eyeway Conversations, George Abraham speaks with Nupur 
Joshi, a young and vibrant social worker with a Master's degree in Social Work 
from TISS, Mumbai, and Bachelor's degree in Psychology and Sociology from St 
Xaviers College. 

  Nupur's unwavering commitment to society is reflected in her work. She 
currently works with SNEHA, an organization working with women, children, and 
public health. This April, she will be joining TATA AIG where she will continue 
to dedicate herself to furthering disability inclusion in workplaces.

   

  Nupur's effervescent personality and passion for human interaction are 
evident in her podcast, "Bol Baby Bol," where she shares her experiences 
growing up as a visually impaired girl and navigating the world around her. She 
is also launching a new series where she will be engaging in conversations with 
regular people such as watchmen, auto drivers, waiters, and delivery agents. 
Through these conversations, she aims to shed light on the lives of people who 
are often overlooked and provide them with a platform to share their stories.
   

  In addition to her work and podcasting, Nupur is also working on a project 
called "Maitri Kattaa", which is designed to offer a supportive community where 
women maids can share their experiences, learn new skills, and access essential 
services.

   

  Besides, Nupur likes singing and dancing.

  Tune in to learn more about Nupur's journey and the interesting initiatives 
she is spearheading.

   

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  Best,

  Ketho

   


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Re: [AI] My gender clarification

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, nice to read about your life jerney. Hindi is not a difficult 
language, and by mingling with the local people, you will learn working 
Hindi. However, you have not made it clear whether you and your wife are 
visually impaired or you are simply serving the vidually impaired.
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From: "Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2023 6:35 AM
Subject: [AI] My gender clarification



Dear Access India list members,

On a few occasions on this list, people have been conjecturing whether I 
am male or female, because the name Yamuna appears in my Vaishnava diksha 
name.

I thought I might as well take the time to clarify. 

At my birth, my parents named me Yoganathan. My family surname is Khandoo, 
(originally in India it would have been Kandu as per the name as found in 
the Srimad Bhagavatam,), but when my paternal Great-grandfather arrived 
from South India in the 1800s, the british slave-owners did little in 
spelling our names as they should be. After all we were captured slaves so 
why should they care?


At this point I could go into the sad and painful history of how our 
ancestors eventually liberated themselves from slavery and established a 
thriving Indian community in South Africa, but I will resist the 
temptation.


Over time and as generations passed, they were indoctrinated into speaking 
the English language of the colonizers. Still, our family kept away from 
cross-race inter marriages despite 4 generations in South Africa. Little 
remnants remained of the Tamil language of our ancestry, but we kept 
whatever we could by way of prayers and rituals coming down from previous 
generations.


No wonder then when I was born, a South Indian priest was consulted by my 
parents and he offered the name Yoganathan. So that's my birth name in my 
official documents: passport, South African ID card Etc.


When I grew up, my Grandfather always told me that I reminded him of his 
own father. You see, I had developed a yearning to understand the purpose 
of life, God, our purpose on earth and such existential concerns. I always 
found myself disturbed to see the suffering of others, both man and 
animal.
So in 1997 when I first came across a Hare Krishna preacher of Vedic 
wisdom, I took to the study like a hungry man takes to water in a dry 
desert. My Grandfather noticed the transformation in my life, and as he 
watched me perform aratis and bhoga offerings to the deity, chanting of 
Japa Etc, he always remarked how I reminded him of his father who was a 
Brahmana captured into slavery but who kept performing his worship and 
sadhana in South Africa.


So, when I eventually was ready for it, in 2005 my spiritual master whose 
name is Partha Sarathi Dasa Goswami, gave me Diksha initiation into the 
Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya. By this time we had learnt how 
the body we live in is really insignificant because we are spirit souls 
temporarily inhabiting different bodies, and although my spiritual master 
was an English man born in England, I was impressed so much by his own 
dedication to the Vaishnava life despite him being a typical English man 
born from the land of our cruel colonizers, still I accepted him as my 
Guru because he was a disciple of the founder of the Hare Krishna movement 
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. He had transcended his white 
English male body and was now a pure Vaishnava dedicated to serving and 
loving the supreme personality of Godhead Sri Krishna.


So on that faithful day of 23 November 2005, I received Diksha initiation. 
My Guru gave me the spiritual name Yamuna Jivana Dasa.


Yamuna refers to the holy river Yamuna in Vrindavana Dhama. The word 
Jivana literally means the life of. So that person who is the life of the 
Yamuna is Sri Krishna. So this name Yamuna Jivana refers to Sri Krishna 
who is the life of the Yamuna river. Therefore this is a masculine name 
referring to Lord Krishna himself. At the end of a Vaishnava name, we 
always add the word Dasa. Dasa means servant. So the full Sanskrit to 
English translation of my name is that I am a servant of that person who 
is the life of, or very dear to the Yamuna, namely Lord Krishna.


Interestingly in 2008, I met my wife who has a very similar history to 
share. She was born of Indian parents in South America, Guyana, but whose 
ancestory are North-Indian, particularly of Bengali origin.


She too came from a family who very closely kept their Indian culture and 
traditions, but remained in search of Vedic truths. When she took 
initiation also into the Hare Krishna society there in Guyana, she 
received the name Kalindi Dasi. This name is interesting because even 
before we met on-line across the seas, her name was linked to mine. The 
name Kalindi refers to the Yamuna river, but specifically to the 
personality which embodies that river. In Vedic understanding, even the 
holy rivers are embodied by living personality. Like me, she too 

Re: [AI] My Life Journey being Visually Impaired

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Simran, I heard your video, it was really inspiring. You have got a 
tinkling sweet voice, which also reflects your determination. Hats off to your 
parents, who constently kept supporting you without loosing hopes. You should 
have mentioned the name of your friend who induced you to write your story. Now 
what are your next plans? All the best to you. Yours, Professor Shyam M. 
Sayanekar  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ritesh Agarwal 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] My Life Journey being Visually Impaired


  May you achieve many more laurels in your journey ahead.

  Regards
  Ritesh



  On Wed, May 25, 2022, 11:40 Simran Chawla  wrote:

Hi Access Indians,


I recently completed my 1k subscribers on YouTube and I have shared my life 
story being visually impaired and everything about how I lost my eyesight in 
the 1k special video. Hope you can relate to it in some or the other way.
Sharing the link below:


https://youtu.be/k4sUdGxgJKo


Join me on this roller coaster ride of Meri Kahani Meri Zubani
Please do share your feedback in the comment box and share this video with 
your friends/family if it inspires you in any way
Also, don’t forget to subscribe to the channel!


Love and hugs
Simran Chawla




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Re: [AI] Flying with Indigo

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, absulutly true. I have traveled by Indigo Airlines at least thrice 
and every time they provided me excellent service. in fact, I had not 
mentioned that I  am visually impaired and had not applied for any special 
service, because I had my cousin with me. But as soon as they saw me, they 
on their own came forward and helped me from start to end. They even helped 
me in booking a cab. I don't know about this particular case under 
discussion.
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: [AI] Flying with Indigo


I have also flown very often with Indigo airlines. I have found them 
extremely helpful and cooperative. In fact last time when I was at the Delhi 
airport they saw me through the security and took me all the way till the 
gate till I boarded the flight up to my seat. I am sure in the incident 
which we are talking about there must be some practical difficulty for them 
to refuse boarding for that disabled child. We should  all objectively see 
the other side also and find out what the reason was. Regards Nafisa 
Buhariwalla


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Re: [AI] Please throw some light on Red me Phone

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Thanks a lot. I have already purchased the Red Me phone for Rs 9,000. Thanks 
once again
  - Original Message - 
  From: Saurav Hegde 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Monday, May 09, 2022 3:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Please throw some light on Red me Phone


  Hi,
  I don't know much about vivo phones, I or no one around me has ever used them.
  However, vivo phones are more for offline markets and tend to give less value 
for money.
  As far as redmi is concerned, Redmi once was amongst the best and even today 
is, in terms of specks.
  However, Redmi phones have a reputation of lot of adds and crap preinstalled.
  You cannot uninstall the junk.
  And, as far as I am concerned, I don't trust redmi in terms of data security 
much.
  Their updates are also very terrible.
  I recommend looking for a Samsung or Motorola phone.
  Though I would love to know your budget range.
  Motorola phones are pure stock android, as per samsung, they too have some 
bloatware but that can be uninstalled.
  You can also configure the settings to not see adds.
  Samsung has also promised 4 years of android updates.
  I am a Samsung user from the last 10 months, my experience has been good.


  regards


  On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 3:18 PM Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:

Dear members, I wanted to buy a new phone, and Red me and Wevo were 
suggested  to me. please will you throw some light on the pluss and minus 
points of the Red Me Phone? Compared to Wevo phone how is the Red me phone? 
Thanks in advance. Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar 

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[AI] Please throw some light on Red me Phone

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, I wanted to buy a new phone, and Red me and Wevo were suggested  
to me. please will you throw some light on the pluss and minus points of the 
Red Me Phone? Compared to Wevo phone how is the Red me phone? Thanks in 
advance. Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar 

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Re: [AI] Life Beyond Sight – An initiative to spread Awareness regarding Assistive Technologies for Low Vision/ Blind persons

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, a very good effort. I really admire and appriciate. Please pay slide 
attaintion to the sound quality. Well done, and keep it up.
- Original Message - 
From: "Payal Khaitan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 3:55 PM
Subject: [AI] Life Beyond Sight – An initiative to spread Awareness 
regarding Assistive Technologies for Low Vision/ Blind persons



Dear Sir/Madam,

Greetings of the Day

Background

With Technological advancements, blind / low vision persons can not only
lead a normal life but an extraordinary one. Use of assistive
Technologies enhances quality of life and independent living among blind/low
vision people. However, still many blind low vision people struggles to
lead a normal life due to lack of awareness regarding assistive
technologies and even sometimes strives for survival as right
information doesnt  reach to them at right time. As a result, they
loose the most crucial time of their life sitting idol which infact
they could have made use of for building their career.

Considering awareness issues and challenges faced by low vision/blind
person, we , a group of friends, have initiated awareness program  for
spreading awareness regarding use of assistive technologies by low vision
/blind persons

Objective

Our idea is to spread awareness through self explanatory document bearing
title LIFE BEYOND SIGHT,  and a series of audios containing useful and
relevant information regarding various assistive devices. For this, we are
sharing the mentioned document and audios  with various eye hospitals /eye
specialists/ blind schools/   blind as well as sighted community  so
that such information can reach  to many  low vision/blind
patients in time.

Request

Hence, we request you to support us on our endeavor by sharing
the document and audios  with low vision/blind people , Please feel free
to use/reproduce these materials in any suitable manner for instance, can
put in display , distributions as pamphlets etc.

Enclosure

1.   PDF Document – LIFE BEYOND SIGHT English Version
2.   PDF Document – LIFE BEYOND SIGHT Hindi Version
3.   Audio Series - Google Drive link
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1xkWzfZPU4Jjm2GMNzFujREEfYyotUKga

We highly appreciate your valuable feedback and positive response .


Regards,
LIFE BEYOND SIGHT TEAM
Email- lifebeyondsigh...@gmail.com

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Re: [AI] Seeing with fingertips Braille in Southasia

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, a very good and informative article. Some efforts were also made to 
introduce contracted Marathi Braille but were not of much success. Braille 
is also used to write notation in Classical music as well as natural 
sciences like chemistry.  Earlier, transcribing into braill with a slate was 
a difficult task, but with development of technology, several mechanical and 
ellectronic devices became available and now it has become very easy.
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From: "S Solomon Karuppannan" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2022 3:13 PM
Subject: [AI] Seeing with fingertips Braille in Southasia


Himalmag

4th March 2022


Seeing with fingertips
Braille in Southasia.

Listen to this article:


Himal Southasian Podcast Channel 

Seeing with fingertips: Braille in Southasia (Audio article)


In the Buddhist classic of the Pali canon (Udāna 6.4), there is a mention
of the ancient fable of the blind men and an elephant. In this fable,
several blind men come across an elephant, and they describe it by touching
its ears, tail, trunk, leg, and sides. Each describes the animal using
their individual perception through touch. The elephant was perceived as a
snake by the one who touched its trunk; as a pillar by one who touched its
leg; as a winnowing basket by the one who touched its ears; as a rope by
the one who touched its tail; and as a wall by the one who touched its
side. Apart from showing the susceptibility of individual perception to
subjective experiences, the fable also reveals the importance of tactile
perception. Touch is thought to be one of the first senses to develop in
babies and which gives us the sensory scaffoldings on which we visualise
our own bodies and sense of being. According to the World Health
Organization’s ‘World report on Vision’ (2019), 2.2 billion people have
some type of visual impairment. For many of them, touch remains a critical
sense for connecting and understanding the world.

Six raised dots

Believing in this sense of touch, Louis Braille, a 19th-century Frenchman
who was blind himself, developed a system of six raised dots on paper that
enabled blind people to read and write. Louis Braille was inspired by a
military code called ‘night writing’, which was developed in 1819 by
Charles Barbier for the French army, and which was used for nighttime
battlefield communications. Today, Braille is the world’s most widely used
tactile reading and writing system and is named after its inventor, Louis
Braille. Braille is not a language. It employs a system of raised dots to
spell out letters and punctuation. Across the globe, many people with
blindness or visual impairment use Braille for reading with their
fingertips and can write using Braille writing devices. World Braille Day
is celebrated on 4 January each year marking the birth anniversary of Louis
Braille.

The COVID-19 pandemic has reinforced the importance of making information
available in multiple languages, in accessible formats including Braille
and audio versions.

Braille consists of an arrangement of raised dots in a cell. Each cell is
made up of six raised dot patterns, arranged in a rectangle containing two
columns of three dots each. The dots create 63 different patterns. Each
cell represents a letter of the alphabet, number, punctuation mark or other
print symbol.

There are two main types of Braille: uncontracted and contracted.
Uncontracted Braille, ie grade 1 Braille, translates each individual print
letter, number or punctuation mark into a Braille sign. With uncontracted
Braille, words are spelled out letter by letter. Therefore, it is used by
beginners for basic literacy. On the other hand, contracted Braille, ie
grade 2 Braille, is used by more experienced users. It uses the same
letters, punctuation and numbers as uncontracted (grade 1) Braille, but it
also uses a system of abbreviations (contractions) where one letter might
represent an entire word. Because contracted Braille makes reading quicker
and easier, it is the most commonly used form of Braille in the anglophone
world.

For example, if you want to write ‘Himal Southasian’ in uncontracted
English Braille, it will look like this:

⠓⠊⠍⠁⠇ ⠎⠕⠥⠞⠓⠁⠎⠊⠁⠝

But if you write Himal Southasian in contracted English Braille, it will
appear like this:

⠓⠊⠍⠁⠇⠀⠎⠳⠹⠁⠎⠊⠁⠝

Braille in Southasia

According to the World Braille Usage Survey (2013), there are 137 unique
Braille codes used in 142 different countries of the world. Out of these
numerous codes, there are around 16 unique Braille codes from a total of 20
codes used for Southasian languages. The story of Braille in Southasia
starts with the establishment of the first school for the blind in Amritsar
(British India) in 1887. This school, known as ‘The North India Industrial
Home for the Blind’, was founded by an English woman named Annie Sharp
(1858-1903) on the premises of St Catherine’s 

Re: [AI] kindle reader book device

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello members, even I want to know about the Kindle books, and the method of 
reading them. Do we require any special software instrument, or have to make 
some changes in the current computer? Please guide.
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From: "rahul agarwal" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 10:52 AM
Subject: [AI] kindle reader book device



Hi friends,
hope you all are doing great.
i am visually challenged and want to know kindle device is accessible
or not. if yes, which device version will you suggest me to buy?

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[AI] New Order of CDSL

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, many of you must be having a d-mat account with some broker or 
the other, and may be holding shares of different companies. Now the CDSL and 
the NSDL have issued an order that the share holders must compulsorily declare 
their annual income. Has anyone received a mail to this effect? Is it not a way 
of bullying?In case of non-compliance, They have even threatened to close our 
account. Whatever may be our annual income, so long as we are paying the income 
tax, it is nobody's concern how much is our annual income. Please write your 
comments, and remedy if any.
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Re: you can contact me on 959 6503 933 I have some knowledge about stock market and whatever I have I can share with you: [AI] stock trading classes for VI persons

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, in fact, since several days, I have been suggesting the need of  such a 
mailing group. I will be very happy to be a member of such a group. I have my 
demat account and since long ago I have been perchasing shares and debentures. 
There are many finance experts in our community like Mahendra Galani, Sameer 
Latye, Ajay Manocha and so on. They should guide others in this field. It is 
true, that After all, it is all speculation and one has to play at one's own 
risk. even then, expert guidance can help to some extent. Thanking you,
Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Devendra Goel 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: you can contact me on 959 6503 933 I have some knowledge about 
stock market and whatever I have I can share with you: [AI] stock trading 
classes for VI persons


  Can we start some messaging group with those people who are interested in 
stock market to share their views and thoughts with each other
  Interested people can share their contact number and name


  Warmest Regards
  Devendra Goel
  Sent from my iPhone


On 25-Jul-2021, at 3:31 PM, Yasir Jan  wrote:




On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, 7:35 PM 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia 
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>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I am interested in learning the fundamental's on stock trading.
> I want to know the basic of the same.
> I am unable to find the right platform to get the information of the same.
> Can anybody of you provide the details of tutor or guidance or classes
> for stock trading for VI persons. If the class in online is better for
> us in this pandemic time.
> If classes is not available, Is there any audio or text guidance
> materials is available for it.
> Any thing  informative is better.
> This will not only help me, It will be helpful for those VI persons
> interested in stock marketing.
> Expecting the valuable response  for uplifting our community.
>
> Regards.
> Saravanan.K
> + 9916512402
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[AI] All mails going to the spam box

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Different members including myself are repetedly pointing out that all the 
mails of Access India group are going to the spam box for the last few months. 
this is happening only with Access India group. Now I have taken it for granted 
that if you want to see the mails of AI, then you must go to the spam box. 
Definetly there is some technical issue, but it is not addressed. 
Shyam M. Sayanekar

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Re: [AI] Central Government of India: Petition to make Indian currency accessible for persons with visual impairment

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I think, we blind persons ourselves are not unanimous regarding what we want, 
no wonder if the government and the RBI are confused. Braille numbers or signs 
will not remain on the notes as they get older and older. So braille markings 
is not a solution. I have been time and again insisting that different sizes 
and shapes of currency is the only solution to our problem.
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pratham Kumar Singh 
  To: Access India 
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:56 PM
  Subject: [AI] Central Government of India: Petition to make Indian currency 
accessible for persons with visual impairment


  Hey,

  I just signed the petition "Central Government of India: Petition to make 
Indian currency  accessible for persons with visual impairment" and wanted to 
see if you could help by adding your name.

  Our goal is to reach 200 signatures and we need more support. You can read 
more and sign the petition here:

  http://chng.it/rxvTrRr2Ph

  Thanks!
  Pratham


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Re: [AI] not receiving emails

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Hello, all mails from AI are going to the Spam box. If you want to check the 
mails, you have to visit your spam box. This is happening with many of the 
members. No remedy seams to be working.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tanmay Srivastava 
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 
  Cc: accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 3:06 PM
  Subject: [AI] not receiving emails


  Hello access indians, I hope you all are safe from coronavirus. As the 
subject line indicates, I did not receive any email from access india mailing 
list since 9th january 2021. I want to know that, only I'm not receiving emails 
or everybody  unable to receive the emails.

  regards
  tanmay srivastava
  university of delhi


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Re: [AI] ALL EMAILS ARE GOING INTO SPAM

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Hello Harish, but this is not the case with Pratham Kumar alone, the same is 
happening with me as well. Today, all 14 mails from Access India went to my 
spam box.
- Original Message - 
From: "Harish" 
To: ; "Pratham Kumar Singh" 


Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] ALL EMAILS ARE GOING INTO SPAM


Hi

Firstly, make sure accessindia email is there in your contacts.

Secondly unjunk all the accessindia mails. You may have to do this a few
times until your email client understands that all these mails are genuine.

This has to be done at your end.

Harish


On 11/01/2021 11:48, Pratham Kumar Singh wrote:

Hello everyone,
As the subject line indicates my all mails from you access Indians are
going into spam.
आई डोंट नो व्हाय बट इट इज हैपनिंग फ्रॉम लास्ट टू डेज that the mail which 
is

coming from access India mailing group are going automatically into the
spam and this thing is not happening with one or two email it is happening
with each and every email from you fellow members, since last two days.

so, kindly guys suggest me, what to do in this situation.



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Re: [AI] sad news about our member Sakina Dhariwala

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Indeed a very sad news. I often used to write to her whenever I faced any 
problems pertaining to the use of computer or mobile.  I think originally 
she had studied in the Saint xaviors college of Mumbai and was working in a 
bank. My humble homage to her.
- Original Message - 
From: "'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 11:31 PM
Subject: [AI] sad news about our member Sakina Dhariwala



 Hi Friends
not good news to share,
Sakina Dhariwala is no more, she died of cardiac arrest.
she was only 58, only thing, she died in her sleep.
may her soul rest in peace





with warm regards
Mahendra Galani
Whatsapp/Viber/Skype/Imo/Facetime +43 699 174 555 95
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Re: [AI] guidance for Share market basics

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Exactly, that is what we are looking for. You should share your experience and 
knowledge with others.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vaibhav Saraf 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] guidance for Share market basics


  I have only one small advise from my experience. Do not unmindfully act on 
the tips you receive. Have your own research done, I personally invest in a 
small number of stocks only about whom I have studied over time.



  Also in start period invest only in cash market, refrain from derivatives and 
commodities until you get immense knowledge.


  Thanks,
  Vaibhav




  On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:11, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia 
 wrote:

Dear Friends,

In our group, Many of us are willing to step up in share market.
But, we are afraid that we will step in to loose everything.
And we also don't know how this area is accessible to VI persons.
We are having many share market experts in our group.
They are having sound knowledge & experience in trading & investing.
If they are ready to guide the beginners, We will step into
Trading/investing in share market without fear.
We are in need of a proper guidance & a good mentor to guide us.
I request the experts to share the knowledge with us.

Regards.
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402

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Re: [AI] guidance for Share market basics

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

No, I  want a mailing group on the computer. I don't use whatsap.
- Original Message - 
From: "'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] guidance for Share market basics



Hallo Shyam, and others.
if you like, there is one whatsapp group.
one can subscrite to that group, you can get views, and ask questions.
so avoid forming extra group.

At 01:32 PM 11/5/2020 +0530, you wrote:
hello Mr. Saravanan.K. I fully subscribe to your view. On  the contrary, I 
suggest that some should take an initiative and form a separate group 
exclusively for the discussion and guidance on investment.  Thanking you, 
yours, Shyam M. Sayanekar


- Original Message - From: "'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia" 


To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 11:11 AM
Subject: [AI] guidance for Share market basics



Dear Friends,

In our group, Many of us are willing to step up in share market.
But, we are afraid that we will step in to loose everything.
And we also don't know how this area is accessible to VI persons.
We are having many share market experts in our group.
They are having sound knowledge & experience in trading & investing.
If they are ready to guide the beginners, We will step into
Trading/investing in share market without fear.
We are in need of a proper guidance & a good mentor to guide us.
I request the experts to share the knowledge with us.

Regards.
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402

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with warm regards
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Re: [AI] guidance for Share market basics

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

hello Mr. Saravanan.K. I fully subscribe to your view. On  the contrary, I 
suggest that some should take an initiative and form a separate group 
exclusively for the discussion and guidance on investment.  Thanking you, 
yours, Shyam M. Sayanekar


- Original Message - 
From: "'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 11:11 AM
Subject: [AI] guidance for Share market basics



Dear Friends,

In our group, Many of us are willing to step up in share market.
But, we are afraid that we will step in to loose everything.
And we also don't know how this area is accessible to VI persons.
We are having many share market experts in our group.
They are having sound knowledge & experience in trading & investing.
If they are ready to guide the beginners, We will step into
Trading/investing in share market without fear.
We are in need of a proper guidance & a good mentor to guide us.
I request the experts to share the knowledge with us.

Regards.
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402

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Re: [AI] Rimoving advertisements from Youtube

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Hello Ameya Da, thanks for your reply, but I want use youtube not on the mobile 
but on the computer. So please suggest for the computer. Thanks.
  - Original Message - 
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  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Rimoving advertisements from Youtube


  Try the app, Ad Skipper. It clicks the skip ad button for you. But you may 
have to tolerate the first few seconds of the ad until the skip ad option 
appears. Otherwise, you may subscribe to youtube premium for Rs. 129. It gives 
you the chance to listen to the enormous collection of music in the related 
app, youtube music.

  With best regards,
  Amiyo Biswas
  Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329


- Original Message - 
From: Dinesh Thole 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; 'Voice Vision. ' 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: [AI] Rimoving advertisements from Youtube


Dear Sir,

 

After fiew seconds while add is playing, there is skip adds option button.

You need to click this button.

Alternatively, you can buy YouTube premium subscription in which you will 
not get any adds while playing any content.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shyam M. Sayanekar
Sent: 15 October 2020 15:22
To: Voice Vision. 
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Rimoving advertisements from Youtube

 

Hello expert friends, whenever I try to view any video on Youtube, first 
appear very long advertizements , which are extremely irritating. Please guide 
so as to how to skip these adds. If there are any specific buttons, please 
guide how to reach those buttons. Thanking you, yours, S.M. Sayanekar

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[AI] Rimoving advertisements from Youtube

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Hello expert friends, whenever I try to view any video on Youtube, first appear 
very long advertizements , which are extremely irritating. Please guide so as 
to how to skip these adds. If there are any specific buttons, please guide how 
to reach those buttons. Thanking you, yours, S.M. Sayanekar

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Re: [AI] microsoft team accessibility

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Hello members, pardon for my ignorance, but please throw some light on the 
microsoft team, how and what for it is used.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vaibhav Saraf 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 8:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] microsoft team accessibility


  Hi Kannan,


  Which keystrokes are you pointing to?


  Thanks,
  Vaibhav




  On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 22:54, kannan balasubramanian  
wrote:

Microsoft teams is accessible now. The keystrokes are not working
properly. You can navigate the screen with your arrow keys and tab key
very easily. Both JAWS and NVDA supports teams nicely.

The mobile version of microsoft teams both android and IOS is very
much accessible.

I regularly use mobile version of teams in my office work.

Thank you.

B. KANNAN
Mobile - +919444049216.

On 9/4/20, आकाश गुप्ता Akash Gupta  wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> Please share your experience regarding microsoft team with jaws.
>
>
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Re: [AI] Science ccommunication for the blind.

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello sir, this is also true with regard to geography, perticularly Physical 
geography.  Unless we have three dimentional models, the concepts cannot be 
clear. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Chandrashekhar Kulkarni" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:28 PM
Subject: [AI] Science ccommunication for the blind.


Dear Acccessindians,
Today I am writing this mail here with a special purpose in mind. We
know very well that subjects like Science and maths have always been a
matter of concern to majority of us mainly because of their visual
presentation and explanation. This visual presentation leaves these
subjects beyond our proper understanding and as such results in their
neglect.
As an effort to find a solution to this problem and also to make
science accessible some  renowned science communicators are willing to
come forward to develop accessible communication methods for our
community. To begin with to discuss the plan to go ahead, it is
intended to organize an informal virtual  meeting with a small group
of persons  who are connected with science and science teaching.
My daughter, Dr.  Suchita Kulkarni who is working in research field in
Vienna, has written a mail to me in this regard. I am pasting her mail
below. Those willing to co-operate in this endeavour can directly get
in touch with her. Her e-mail ID is:
suchita.kulka...@gmail.com


Sincerely,
C. B. Kuulkarni
Her e-mail follows:

I am writing you an email with cc to my dad. I also cc Sharmaji who is
a very respected figure in Indian science communication and is happy
to help us in this endeavor.

I suppose dad has already told you a bit about our thoughts. Let me
begin with defining what I mean by science communication. Science
communication is a field which explains cutting edge scientific
developments to the individuals of the society in simple
understandable language.

To my mind, the way science communication is done currently, it is not
accessible for blind community. Thus we want to understand the
problems blind individuals face in understanding popular science
articles and then expand this to a broader field of disabled
individuals. To my understanding the huge emphasis on diagrams, charts
and images does not make popular science accessible for blind
communities and science communicators need to understand this clearly.
A direct communication with you all will help understand the
bottlenecks and will help us make better science communication. We
come to you with this vision.

To begin with, we wish to have a small zoom meeting (which could be
periodic) with a select few members of your group. The age or the
education of these individuals is not a barrier, we would however like
to have constructive feedback. Therefore it will be nice to have
people who will discuss and be patient with us. We are also doing it
the first time and have little experience with this.

I was thinking we could present a small snippet on a science topic. It
could be e.g. Coronavirus, climate change, comets, airplanes, anything
that you like. You could give us a list of a few topics such that we
can pick a few and prepare. Once we present our way of doing science
communication, your group can tell us where improvements can be done.

I can imagine there will also be a more general feedback and ideas
that you would want to share. We will be delighted to hear them. At
the moment, nothing is set in stone, we look at it as a wonderful
beginning of something. We wish to define that something together with
you.

I hope my thoughts are clear, I am sorry for the very long email.
Please do not hesitate to speak up your mind and let us know what you
think.

best,

skype ID: chandrashekhar.b.kulkarni

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Re: [AI] Medival India history - Looking for interesting books

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear Vaibhav, the topics from the Mauryan period to the Kushana period fall 
under Ancient India and not under Mediaeval India. You can read the book 'The 
Wonder That  was India' by A.L. Basham. This book is available with the library 
of NAB Delhi. Thanking you, yours, professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vaibhav Saraf 
  To: AccessIndia 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:01 AM
  Subject: [AI] Medival India history - Looking for interesting books


  Hi Friends,


  I know I am talking to many of the experts here. I was recently reading about 
history of medeival India. The book I was referring to merely talked between 
numbers and names. I got pretty exhausted as for a good span of 7-8 centuries I 
got nothing but years and the respective rulers, no mu h description, no 
philosophy, nothing.


  Please suggest me some good reads. I am particularly looking for period from 
the rise of Maurya dynasty to the fall on Kanishka.


  Thanks,
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Re: [AI] Any simple to use application for editting audio lecture?

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

What are the lectures about?
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Subject: [AI] Any simple to use application for editting audio lecture?



These days I am recording lectures and uploading online for my
students. Could anyone tell me about any software to edit the audio
lecture in my PC or mobile?

--
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Phone: +919 555 555 765




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Re: [AI] Learn Samsung voice assistant screen reader

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I heard the whole podcast, it is very good, but the different jestures seem 
to be very complicated. Anyway, this may be my personal purception.
- Original Message - 
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:39 PM
Subject: [AI] Learn Samsung voice assistant screen reader



Hello access Indians.
this is my first entry on this list.
I am here with my podcasts on Samsung voice assistant screen reader.
through these pottcasts, you will learn everything of voice assistant
screen reader. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Here the links.

https://youtu.be/RIoIJK0QbiE

https://youtu.be/LXYwc-Ye2ds

Thanks and regards.
Santosh Prajapati



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Re: [AI] My first blog- Blindnessrocks

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Aishwarya, a good blog indeed. Both the visually impaired and the 
sighted should read and follow it.
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To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 9:34 AM
Subject: [AI] My first blog- Blindnessrocks



Hi all,

I had been thinking of starting my blog and its finally here.. My
first write-up is about 10 things to remember when you are around a
blind person. Here's the link below;
https://blindnessrocks.wordpress.com/2020/02/19/10-things-to-remember-when-you-are-around-a-blind-person/

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[AI] Interview of Mr. Amar Jain

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, just yesterday I heard the Interview of Mr. 
Amar Jain on Radeo Udaan, taken by Danesh Mahajan. I would strongly recommend 
that all the members should definetly listen to this interview. It is an 
extremely inspiring and motivating interview. Amar is very clear in his 
thoughts and views, and has put them in a very bold, blunt and outspoken 
manner. Amar is absulutely fluent and flawless, and yet very down to earth. his 
yearning for the vi community is really admirable. He has touched upon several 
current issues faced by the Vi persons. Amar is very promissing and stands a 
bright future. I see in him a great advocacy leader. Thanking you, Yours, 
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Re: [AI] searching for a certified finantial planner

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Mr. Ajay, why don't you start a regular series of Financial advice on 
the platform of Say everything so that all those who are interested like me 
may be benifited by your expert advice. Further, they can pose you many 
queries as  well. Thanking you, yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Ajay Minocha" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] searching for a certified finantial planner



Hi, although I am not a registered financial planner but can help you with
some of the basics if you want.

My focus will mostly the on a financial plan according to the income and
using the accessible tools to achieve the same. I refrain from giving
specific equity or mutual fund name to go and blindly invest into.

Cheers
Ajay

On Sun, 29 Dec, 2019, 10:00 PM Navneet Dubey, 
wrote:


dear friends
i want to find a certified financial planner   on payment to manage my
personnel finantial portfolio so that i could achieve my finantial
goals in life but when i search for a certified planner in my city
bhopal on google most of the search results ar c a by business or
mutual fund agents can any one of you tell me how can i search a
trusted finantial advisor or delhi or mumbai friends can tell me any
person name in this field on which i could trust .because i am
wondering from a long time for this but due to blindness i can not
check any person is fraud or not can i find such type of finantial
planner online if yes then how?
navneet

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Re: [AI] Trading in StockMarkets

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Mr. Pavan Kumar, I am not a big trader but do little bit of trading on 
the share market. You must be knowing that you must first open a demat 
account with some broking agency, as physical trading is almost stopped. I 
do the trading with the help of my broker. Here the system is that I have to 
just give a ring to the broker and tell him whether I want to bie or sell 
how many shares and of which company. The call is recorded. Accordingly, the 
shares are purchased and the bill is mailed to me. within three days I make 
the payment through NEFT. If I have sold any shares, their price is credited 
to my bank account.
- Original Message - 
From: "pavan kumar lingam" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:32 AM
Subject: [AI] Trading in StockMarkets



hello dear Access Indians warm greetings to all.
as subject line states iam looking to interact with those who are
trading in stockmarkets i've written this mail some time ago but there
was almost no response.
i came to know that Mr. Manish Goyal is in to Trading Profession  i
would be happy if some one can provide his whatsap contact or Email_ID
and i also once again request all those who are trading in stockmarket
to get in touch with me on my mobile or ping me on this email ID.
thanks and regards,
Mobile:+919989317410



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Re: [AI] Bombay HC to RBI: "There is nothing more helpful for the visually-challenged than the feel of the hand"

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, it is indeed very ironical that neither the RBI, nor the Government 
nor the Court is in a position to understand the real problem of the VI 
people. The Tactile lines have no meaning and they cannot ever solve our 
problem. I have been repeatedly saying on this platform that different sizes 
for different denominations is the only solution. The sizes should be 
progressively longer or broader with the higher denomination.
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 

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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 1:08 PM
Subject: [AI] Bombay HC to RBI: "There is nothing more helpful for the 
visually-challenged than the feel of the hand"




https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-note-sizes-changed-to-make-them-wallet-friendly-rbi-to-bombay-high-court-2787771
Regarding a mobile app that the RBI had proposed for helping the
visually-challenged identify currency notes, the Chief Justice said,
"There is nothing more helpful for the visually-challenged than the
feel of the hand. No technology will be able to supplement that…
nature has its own compensatory ways, the visually-challenged can feel
lines which are embossed… you (RBI) must realise that."

Counsel Dhond informed the court that the new series of notes have
tactile identification marks on their sides and that each note has a
particular type of pattern called 'bleed lines', but also clarified
that these are available only for notes of higher denomination such as
those above Rs 100.

Advocate Uday Warunjikar appearing for the petitioner - National
Association for the Blind told the court that these 'bleed lines' fade
within a few days. The RBI counsel responded that they would not fade,
as higher denomination currency change hands less often.

The Chief Justice asked RBI, what about the lower denomination notes
that would not have bleed lines and said that differently-abled are
moving mainstream and we owe to make things simpler for them and not
complicated. When the RBI counsel suggested the help of the app for
the blind to identify lower denomination currency, Chief Justice asked
referring to Kashmir, "There is a state where the network is not
available and there are communication shutdowns on perceived threats
of law and order. What about visually-challenged living there?"

To this, counsel Dhond said that the mobile app once downloaded would
not need an internet connection, but that he would need to confirm
that. The Chief Justice remarked that technology solves problems, but
also makes it a handicap.

--
Avinash Shahi
(Assistant) – Human Resource Management Department
Reserve Bank of India Lucknow



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Re: [AI] Biometrics

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Sometimes it even matters how you place your finger. In my college, whenever 
I place my finger on the machine on my own, it  always says 'please try 
again.' But if somebody catches my finger and places it on the machine, then 
the machine immediately accepts it.
- Original Message - 
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Biometrics



But the biometrics has been proven not to be fool proof.
Besides, there are other considerations like quality of finger skin, and 
even quality of technology employed.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani

Sent: 13 July 2019 16:55
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'

Subject: [AI] Biometrics

Thought I should share

1.   Went for interview for US visa this week. I had already finished
with the biometrics last month. However before the interview they took my 
fingerprints again. I was surprised so I asked why twice. I was told that 
sometimes those who go for the biometrics are not the same persons who go 
for the interview.


2.   Was waiting for my matter in a courtroom in the Bombay High Court
this week and was listening to a matter dealing with biometrics. One 
candidate had appeared for the RBI recruitment written test on 6th January
2018 and the biometrics taken at that time did not match with the ones 
taken at the interview in Feb 2018 and special second opportunity given in 
April 2018.He had come to court for relief but the court refused to 
interfere with RBI's decision not to offer him the job. I don't think this 
candidate was blind. The Court had already handled such a case earlier.




Just leaving everyone on this group with a thought that UPSC and other 
exam bodies are getting several complaints of impersonation etc.  and now 
are becoming stricter and the Courts are notgiving sympathetic decisions. 
Better watch out.


Kanchan



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[AI] My Interview on All India Radeo Mumbai

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, I am very happy to inform you that I have been interviewed in 
Marathi on the Asmita Vahini of All India Radeo Mumbai in the programme 
'Vanitamandal' under the series 'Safarnama'. This interview will be broadcast 
on Monday the 15th of July 2019 at 12.5 noon. Please listen to it carefully and 
give me your feedback. Now the Android app 'News on AIR' is available on which 
radeo programmes from all over the country can be heard. Thanking you, yours, 
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar 


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Re: [AI] Soft Braille promises to bring images alive for blind and low vision people

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

A great breakthrough. I appritiate the efforts and congratulate  these 
students. Thanks and keep it up.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ramya Venkitesh" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 11:17 AM
Subject: [AI] Soft Braille promises to bring images alive for blind and low 
vision people




A group of students and faculty members at a Bengaluru college have
developed a software called Soft Braille to help visually impaired people
get better access to images and maps in Braille.

Accessing images and maps is a major challenge for blind and low vision
students, coming in the way of critical choices in academics. A new 
software

aims to help them overcome those challenges.

Called Soft- Braille, it has been developed by a group of students from
Bengaluru and claims to make the printing ofimages and maps on Braille
stationery easier. A dot matrix printer will be used for this and it will 
be

made available at cheap rates.

Created by students and faculty members of the MS Ramaiah Institute of
Technology (MSRIT), this could make a significant impact for students,
believes law student Maitreya Shah, who appreciates these efforts. Read in
detail: https://newzhook.com/story/22741

Warm Regards,

Ramya Venkitesh

Newz Hook 

Newz Hook is now on WhatsApp 







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Re: [AI] Thailand trip package for the blind, best ever nominal rates so far!

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Dear Amit, I am very much interested in this trip, and you can count 
me among the sixteen.  Looking forward for further communication.  Thanks a 
lot.
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:41 AM
Subject: [AI] Thailand trip package for the blind, best ever nominal rates 
so far!




Dear all,

Rising Stars Tours is offering a wonderful tour package for those visually 
impaired who are looking to enjoy a trip to Thailand in the coming Month 
of July 2019.


The cost of the Entire package is 29,000 per person on double sharing 
basis.


*Cost based on 16 pax traveling together.

Inclusions:
Air Ticket -Economy
02 Nights accommodation at Pattaya at Hotel  Seasons Pattaya 3*
02 Nights accommodation at Bangkok at Hotel Seasons Siam 3*
Daily Breakfast
Coral island Tour with Lunch
Bangkok City Tour
04 Lunch and 04 Dinner with transfer
01 Gala Dinner with DJ
All Tours and Transfer on a private basis.
Thai Visa

Flight Details-
XW 305  DEL DMK 0255 0820
XW 306  DMK DEL  2225 0115

Luggage -07 Kg Only

Please Note:

*Check-In time in any hotel is 1400-1500 Hrs. & check-out is 1100 -1200 
Hrs.


*The rates are calculated at 1 USD= 69.50 INR (For Calculation Sake Only). 
However, the Final Payment will be calculated at the prevailing rate of 
exchange on the day of the final payment.


*We can't guarantee adjacent/interconnecting rooms it's up to the hotel 
discretion.


The final dates for the Month of July can be decided once we have received 
entries at least from 16 people.


Sighted Escorts will be provided to all the VI members.

Interested folks can reach us at: 9811141952
or amitr...@gmail.com



Thanks,

Amit Bhatt


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Re: [AI] general knowledge

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Currection: The earliest university is not Nalanda but Takshashila.
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the disabled.'" 

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] general knowledge



Correction:
The tallest statue in the world is the Motherland, Volgograd Russia.
Now,  the tallest statue in the world is Sardar Vallabhai Patel, india!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
bhavana joshi
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:02 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] general knowledge

Is po

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 12:43 PM Robin Augastin 
dear friends

vThe largest museum in the world is the American Museum of Natural

History.

The lowest mountain range in the world is the Buena Bhaile.
The country known as the Land of Cakes is Scotland.
The place known as the Garden of England is Kent.
The tallest tower in the world is the C. N. Tower, Toronto, Canada.
The country famous for its fish catch is Japan.
The old name of Taiwan was Farmosa.
Montreal is situated on the bank of River Ottawa.
The city of Bonn is situated in Germany.
The literal meaning of Renaissance is Revival.
Julius Caesar was killed by Brutus.
The title of Desert Fox was given to Field Marshal Erwin Rommel.
The largest airport in the world is the King Khalid International
Airport, Saudi Arabia.
The city in Russia which faced an earthquake in the year 1998 was 
Armenia.

The largest bay in the world is Hudson Bay, Canada.
The largest church in the world is Basilica of St. Peter, Vatican
City, Rome.
The largest peninsula in the world is Arabia.
The largest gulf in the world is Gulf of Mexico.
The tallest statue in the world is the Motherland, Volgograd Russia.
The largest railway tunnel in the world is the Oshimizu Tunnel, Japan.
The world's loneliest island is the Tristan da cunha.
The word 'Quiz' was coined by Jim Daly Irishman.
The original meaning of 'Quiz' was Trick.
The busiest shopping centre of London is Oxford Street.
The residence of the Queen in London is Buckingham Palace.
Adolf Hitler was born in Austria.
The country whose National Anthem has only music but no words is Bahrain.
The largest cinema in the world is the Fox theatre, Detroit, USA.
The country where there are no Cinema theatres is Saudi Arabia.
The world's tallest office building is the Sears Tower, Chicago.
In the year 1811, Paraguay became independent from Spain.
The cross word puzzle was invented by Arthur Wynne.
The city which was the capital of the ancient Persian Empire was
Persepolis.
WHO stands for World Health Organization.
WHO (World Health Organization) is located at Geneva.
FAO stands for Food and Agriculture Organization.
FAO is located at Rome and London.
UNIDO stands for United Nations Industrial Development Organization.
UNIDO is located at Vienna.
WMO stands for World Meteorological Organization.
WMO is located at Geneva.
International Civil Aviation Organization is located at Montreal.
The Angel Falls is located in Venezuela.
The Victoria Falls is located in Rhodesia.
Ice Cream was discovered by Gerald Tisyum.
The number regarded as lucky number in Italy is thirteen.
Napoleon suffered from alurophobia which means Fear of cats.
The aero planes were used in war for the first time by Italians. (14
Oct.1911)
Slavery in America was abolished by Abraham Lincoln.
The Headquarters of textile manufacturing in England is Manchester.
The famous Island located at the mouth of the Hudson River is Manhattan.
The founder of plastic industry was Leo Hendrik Baekeland.
The country where military service is compulsory for women is Israel.
The country which has more than 10,000 golf courses is USA.
The famous painting 'Mona Lisa' is displayed at Louvre museum, Paris.
The earlier name for tomato was Love apple.
The first President of USA was George Washington.
The famous words 'Veni Vidi Vici' were said by Julius Caesar.
The practice of sterilization of surgical instruments was introduced
by Joseph Lister.
The number of countries which participated in the first Olympic Games
held at Athens was nine.
Mercury is also known as Quick Silver.
Disneyland is located in California, USA.
The country which built the first powerful long range rockets is Germany.
Sewing Machine was invented by Isaac M. Singer.
Adding Machine was invented by Aldrin.
The national emblem of Spain is Eagle.
Archimedes was born in Sicily.
The total area of Vatican City is 0.272 square kilometers.
The largest temple in the world is Angkor Wat in Kampuchea.
The largest dome in the world is Louisiana Superdome, New Orleans, USA.
The largest strait in the world is Tartar Strait.
The Mohenjo-Daro ruins are found in Larkand District of Sind, Pakistan.
The largest city of Africa is Cairo.
The founder of KODAK Company was Eastman.
The Cape of Good Hope is located in South Africa.
The Heathrow Airport is located in London.
The neon 

Re: [AI] Coins

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Today this news appeared in TV news as well. Slowly the 20 rupee notes would 
be replaced by the 20 rupee coin.. This news appeared in Marathi on the ABP 
Maza.
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From: "George Abraham" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 2:26 PM
Subject: [AI] Coins



This is regarding the accessibility of various coins. The Delhi HC had ask
RBI and the Finance Ministry to redesign the coins and show it to MrRungta
and me before proceeding with production. After several back and forths,
yesterday we were shown a set of coins which were distinctly different and
easy to identify. The denominations planned are Rs1/2/5/10/20.



Rs1/5 are round coins with a plane ring round it. The Rs.1 is smaller and
lighter than the Rs5 coin





The Rs2/10 coins are also round but with a serrated edge. Rs2 is smaller 
and

lighter than Rs10



Rs20 is a bigger coin with a 12 sided edge round it.





The size, weight and feel of each of the coins are distinctly different.



Just sharing an update. These coins now will come into circulation 
probably

in January, 2020.



Best,



George




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[AI] Non-receipt of the Hindu

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, are you receiving the daily Hindu from the Anna Centenery 
Library? I ask this because I am not receiving it since thursday the 18th of 
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[AI] Extremely in need of information

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear learned members, I am extremely in need of some information on Dr. 
ManMohan Singh's economic policy and reforms. Particularly his policy of 
Liberalization, Privatization and Gloabalization. This information should be 
purely academic, critical but free from prejudice. If you have any articals on 
the offorsad subject, kindly share them with me. I will be very much grateful 
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[AI] Report on Accessible notes

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

I fully agree with Harish. No tactile markings on paper currency will help the 
Blind, because such markings get  faded or become blur after some time. 
Different sizes and shapes is the only solution. These sizes and shapes should 
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Re: [AI] India launches National Digital Library

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, have you tried to get any book from this library, or you are just 
providing a  news?
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To: "AccessIndia: A. List for Discussing Accessibility and Issues Concerning 
the Disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 2:33 PM
Subject: [AI] India launches National Digital Library



The National Digital Library is a free repository of millions of academic
texts and other digital educational content from around the globe.

On 19 June, the Union Human Development Minister, Mr Prakash Javadekar
 launched the National Digital Library in the
country’s capital. The library is a source of millions of academic texts
from around the world which will be open to the general public.

It is a digital repository containing textbooks, articles, videos,
audiobooks, lectures, simulations, fiction and other kinds of learning
media.

Apart from the website, the Ministry has also made the National Digital
Library available on phones through its mobile application; the National
Digital Library Mobile App will enable people to access a vast reservoir 
of

digital content from not only the country but across the globe as well.
Digital information will be able to reach users even the most remote parts
of India.

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Re: [AI] Independent tour: Sikkim tour with Bat Travels!

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Mr. Vamshi's discription is very atractive and tempting. I will surely give 
a trial. In fact I have visited Sikkim on my own with relatives. But the 
discription given of Bhat travel seams to be very exciting. Thanks a lot.
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On 14-Jun-2018, at 10:18 AM, Amar Jain  wrote:

Thanks for penning it down beautifully. I am yet to have drinks with Ritu 
and Divya, but one thing which I really like about them is that they are 
really pocket friendly people and still offering pretty much the same 
thing which other players are doing in the industry.


Regards,
Amar Jain

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Dear friends,

I had just taken one more step in the direction of independent living 
for blind, a tour  alone to Sikkim, Indochina border with Bat travels. 
Now I am in euphoria for not just completing my first tour alone, but 
finding a new way of happy living with  new bunch of friends!


I took off alone from Banglore airport having all the apprehensions as 
it was my first time tour without family, friends or known people.  How 
should I find the cab at Bagdogra airport? What if other sighted 
tourists are not ready to help me? Will I be left out on a few spots on 
the tour?  How will I have lunch in a new place?  What if I need to go 
to wash room?  What if other sighted tourists are not interested in 
talking to me?  Will it be risky to depend purely on my white cane in 
hilly places?  Will I enjoy the picturesque beauty of Sikkim as a blind 
tourist?  Many more like this.  But then, I thought its worth giving a 
try.  After all, life is all about trying things new.  Isn’t it?


Day 0
Getting bonded
All the group of 8 arrived at Bagdogra airport. Two of us were blind 
and others being sighted.   Pleasant surprise was that Bat Travel team 
of Divya and Ritu were there a day in advance to receive us!  Couple of 
hours after introductions, we found ourselves cracking jokes at each 
others and pulling each others legs.  We started to Gangtok comfortably 
seated in two SUVs, good old bollywood music playing and I humming some 
songs , more to show that I knew them than to sing well (smile).  River 
Teesta was along side us as if was showing us the way.   A river is the 
best friend for blind in nature as it makes sound to  make us feel it. 
Bat Travel team was describing the nature around us, the size and shape 
of trees, height of mountains, how far and low  is the river, the depth 
of valley, colour of monkeys, a fox that we sighted etc.  It was as good 
as seeing everything.  By the night, we checked into the hotel at 
Gangtok and rested after dinner.  And yes, each blind was accompanied by 
a sighted in the room to orient us.


Day 1
We enjoyed a water fall, Sprinkled water on each other and had a few 
snaps taken.  Then we went to Enchey monastery, with Divya or Ritu 
describing sculpture and paintings in detail, even letting us have a 
tactile feel of the Buddhist sculpture, rare leaves, flowers etc. 
Contrary to our personalities and the tour, we remained  silent in 
praying before lord Buddha with a monk chanting beside us.  After that, 
was the time for the most exciting part of the tour, a rope slide 
between two mountain clifs, with a water fall beside us and water 
flowing below  us!  A part of me was hesitant but the stubborn side of 
me wanted to do it.  I was carefully guided to the clif and was 
explained how it would be functioning.  Even the staff there ensured all 
safety measures. But still, to be harnessed to a rope, and sliding from 
one clif to another  by holding the  rope was one heck of an experience! 
They even stop in the middle where we can leave the rope and wave in the 
air.  At that moment, it was a sense of achievement to think, what if I 
can’t do certain things like sighted, here I am doing an adventure which 
many sighted wouldn’t have done!  After having a Sikkimmese lunch with 
pasta, bamboo shoots, etc., we returned and rested at hotel.


Day 2
Time to touch China!  Natulla pass!  14,000 feet height!
It was all the more tantalizing when we had to wait twice for permits to 
reach there.   With every passing mile up, the temperature kept dropping 
and air freezing.  I deliberately refrained from wearing jacket till we 
reached there to see how it will be like, but only to loose the battle 
with the weather as by then my hands also started paining.   It was a 
hike to the top, with either of the bat travel buddies or  sighted 
friend holding one hand and my white cane in the other.  There were 
steps, treacherous passes, snow passes, other tourists and what not, but 
it was a great experience to use the white cane at such a place and 
reach the peak.  We could 

Re: [AI] RBI Policy: Easing of Challenges faced by the Visually Challenged in using Indian Banknotes

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

I  fully agree with and uphold the views expressed in this mail. 
Technological solutions will not be available to all, and at times may not 
be dependable. Different sizes and shapes of notes and coins is the only 
solution, and we should insist upon it and accept nothing short of it. 
Thanking you, yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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All

That cannot be a practical and realistic way of addressing the problem. An 
easy way out is to have a non tech solution of differentiating the 
denomination by size and shapes.


We should be united in our approach and twart any such moves. Any NGO they 
consider to consult should be clear in our approach and should take a long 
term view in this matter.



Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain

Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 7:04 PM
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Subject: [AI] RBI Policy: Easing of Challenges faced by the Visually 
Challenged in using Indian Banknotes


Copied from the statement on developmental and regulatory policies:

The Reserve Bank has been sensitive to the challenges faced by the 
visually challenged in conducting their day to day business with Indian 
banknotes. While different fora have been consulted from time to time 
before making any change in the Indian banknotes, the Reserve Bank is of 
the view that technological progress has opened up new vistas for making 
Indian banknotes more recognizable for the visually challenged, 
facilitating their day to day transactions. Accordingly, it has been 
decided that the Reserve Bank, in consultation with various entities 
representing the visually challenged, will explore the feasibility of 
developing a suitable device or mechanism for aiding them in the 
identification of Indian banknotes. The Reserve Bank will issue necessary 
guidelines in this regard within six months.


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[AI] Websites for Equity Market

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, will you please guide me regarding websites which are JAWS 
friendly and give the dayly prices of different equities? I know Money Control, 
but in this website I could not locate what to see and where to see. Please 
also guide so as to how to use these websites. Thanking you in anticipation, 
yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar 



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Re: [AI] sir, interstinginformation

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, this information is very interesting and valuable, particularly when 
I am a professor of history. Some of the details are quite technical, but 
they are also important. Thanking you, Shyam M. Sayanekar 






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[AI] Problem withh opening the Passward-protected files

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, if we have invested in mutual funds, shares or debentures, we 
often receive files from the companies, which are passward protected. They give 
the passward opening the file. but, in my  case, no file ever gets opened with 
any passward what so ever. I am using Outlook express. Please guide. Thanking 
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[AI] Interview of Mr. Ajay Manocha

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, yesterday I heard the 
interview of Mr. Ajay Manocha, conducted by Danish Mahajan on Radeo Udaan and 
listed on Yutube. I very much liked it and suggest that all should listen to 
it. Ajay is one of the promising VI youths and has done his MBA from Indoor, 
and is working with the corporate sector in a  finance field. He is also a 
disability activist. The slight problem was that Ajay's voice was sounding 
rather harsh while Danish's voice had to be heard with some dificulty. Hence, 
in future, while recording and broadcasting interviews, care should be taken 
that voices of both the persons are heard with equal intencity. I congratulate 
and wish all the best  to Mr. Ajay and Radeo Udaan. Yours, Professor Shyam M. 
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Re: [AI] Book request for Nani Palkhivala The Courtroom Genius

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello there, along with the book mentioned in these mails, I would like to 
have another book written by Nani Palkhiwala titled 'Roses in December'. 
Kindly share both these books or any one of them. Yours, Professor Shyam M. 
Sayanekar
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From: "Ketan Kothari" <muktake...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

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Subject: Re: [AI] Book request for Nani Palkhivala The Courtroom Genius



Hi Friends,

I too would be happpy to receive this book.  I did search for this
book awhile ago but did not find it.  Hope some one has it.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 4/2/18, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni <kulkarni.chandr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear List Members,
I am looking for a book "Nani Palkhivala the courtroom genius"
preferably in e text format. If it is not available in text please
share the link for downloading in audio format if anyone has the book.
Hoping to hear soon,
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkarni


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Re: [AI] Google chrome query

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello dear members, I am also facing the same problem. I am using JAWS 16. 
Whenever you try to search for something, its link is found out, but as soon 
as you click on that link, it totally comes out of Google Crome. Even 
sighted people tried it on myPC, but no use.
- Original Message - 
From: "Avee Gupta" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Google chrome query



Dear list members,
I am also facing the same problem of google chrome with jaws 17 .
Soon after browsing anything in google chrome it gets crashed .
I have tried with NVDA it works absolutely fine .
please throw some light on the aforesaid issue.

Thanks
Avee Gupta




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Re: [AI] not getting Hindu newspaper

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, same is the case with me  as well, and I wrote to that effect on the 
Say everything group.
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Cc: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:45 AM
Subject: [AI] not getting Hindu newspaper



Dear all,

I am not receiving the hindu nes since last 10 days.

Could some one give the email to send them a mail again?

Regards

Paul





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Re: [AI] You can contribute in making information and communication technology accessible, send your suggestions to BGFI by 20th January

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, congratulations to all who so ever have drafted this representation. 
The draft is self-explainatory and has been prepared very deligerantly. The 
draft is all-inclusive, explecit and accurate. Thanks for such a 
representation.
- Original Message - 
From: "Blind Graduates' Forum of India" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:28 PM
Subject: [AI] You can contribute in making information and communication 
technology accessible, send your suggestions to BGFI by 20th January




Hi all,

The Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) has released a
consultation paper on "Making Information and Communication Technology
Accessible for Persons with Disabilities". Blind Graduates Forum of
India has prepared the first draft of the representation to make it
convenient for you to add your suggestions. This is one of the most
important aspect of accessibility and can have far reaching
implications for all of us. Therefore, we invite you to review the
below representation and send your suggestions latest by Saturday,
20th January. Especially request the experts working in the area of
technology, communication, accessibility, law, management and
organizations working for persons with disabilities to contribute with
your expertise.

The best approach to review would be to read the consultation paper
published by TRAI from the below link, and then read our
representation pasted below.
http://www.trai.gov.in/sites/default/files/CP_ICT_20122017.pdf

Representation from Blind Graduates Forum of India

Q1. Which are the disabilities, with specific accessibility
requirement, other than those mentioned in para 2.3 that require
consideration for preparing a framework?
Other than the ones mentioned in the paper, Persons with speech
impairment needs to be included.

Q2.  Apart from the challenges enumerated in para 2.3, what other
challenges do PwDs face while accessing telecommunication and
broadcasting services?
• Websites, software and mobile apps from vendors and service
providers do not comply with accessibility guidelines which makes them
inaccessible for visually impaired persons who access them using
assistive technologies like screen reading software, brail displays,
etc.
• Most electronic hardware products like Set Top boxes, Smart home
solutions, etc are not usable for PwDs as they don’t comply with
international accessibility standards.
• For instance, the buttons on most of these devices do not possess
any tactile notations and audio feedback to allow visually impaired
users to interact with them.

Q3: In your opinion, what are the reasons for the desired benefits of
ICT (telecom and broadcasting) not reaching the PwDs despite several
policy measures and scheme being implemented?
• Most policies are guidelines and are not mandated. There is no
penalty for non-adherence. This leads to lesser efforts towards
compliance.
• Most guidelines are made applicable only for government entities and
not all establishments. However needs of PwDs in their day-to-day
lives span beyond services and products offered by government
entities.
• Financial mechanisms that would help products benefiting PwDs to
mature and survive in the market either do not exist or are very low
and ineffective.
• Mechanisms of communicating to each of the relevant entities,
monitoring adherence to the policies, notifying the specific actions
to be taken and auditing are insufficient.

Q4: What additional or corrective measures can be taken by the
Government to enable better access to telecommunication, broadcasting
services and devices to PwDs? Please give a rationale for your
response.
• All the provisions in the policies concerning access to PwDs must be
made applicable for “all establishments” (including government,
private, autonomous, non-government, etc.) and not just government
entities. The same should be communicated explicitly in opening
statements itself: This is in line with Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Act 2016.
• All the specified provisions must be made “mandatory” and legally
binding instead of mere guidelines. Moreover, clauses specifying
substantial penalties for non-adherence should be incorporated.
Consider the example of several international organizations which had
initially begun working in the interest of PwDs for the sake of
compliance mandates, but upon realizing the business benefits
gradually ended up integrating these efforts into mainstream business.
• To avoid ambiguity, the definition of “everyday use products” must
be clearly defined and detailed. It should include products used for
personal use, at home, office, public infrastructures, malls, etc as
elaborated in Q6. There is a possibility of misinterpretation or using
it as a loophole to justify non-compliance.
• TRAI should have a helpline where only complaints regarding
accessibility can be received. The complaints should be published on
the Internet along with 

Re: [AI] What’s happening on the Accessible Indian Currency Campaign?

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, we must keep this  agitation alive, otherwise, gradually, it will fed 
away. I wonder what the organizations like NAB, BPA, and Blind Federation 
are doing in this respect. Soon the Winter Session of the Parliament will 
begin, and we should raise this issue in both the houses of the Parliament. 
We should also voice this issue in the press and electronic news media. 
Thanking you, yours Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Vineet Kumar" <vineet94...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] What’s happening on the Accessible Indian Currency 
Campaign?




Its a good cause to support
We should stand united because in the long run-Both physical and Digital 
will become inaccessible

Frankly i see this happening if we dont standup for our own cause.

Sent from my iPhone

On 29-Oct-2017, at 10:19 AM, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) 
<contact.b...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi all,

Here are the responses / updates to a few of the reactions and queries
that we have received regarding Accessible Indian Currency. Feel free
to add to the queries as well as the responses.

1.I wonder if the notes are such a big issue.
You will not have this doubt if you have felt the new 50 and 200 rupee
notes, Can you independently identify 1 and 2 rupee coins?  We are
heading towards a similar situation with increasing circulation of the
new inaccessible notes.

2.I still can identify most notes.
Think if you will be able to identify in future. RBI had plans to have
all notes of same width. Also drastically reduce the length from 10mm
to 4mm. Add to it the confusion due to coexistence of old and new
notes. You cannot do much once they are circulated in large numbers.
Can you?

3.Is it cost effective to propose withdrawal of notes that are
already in circulation?
We are not proposing to withdraw 500 and 2000-rupee notes, as they are
already too many in circulation. We are proposing to withdraw the new
50 and 200 notes that are still few in circulation; the situation with
these notes can still be controlled. We need to hold authorities
accountable for the promise made to the committee comprising blind
representatives by RBI that they will not reduce the size difference.
Else, authorities will continue to take us for granted.

4.We do have two or three websites and apps meant for making
transactions that are reasonably accessible.
That’s less than 5% of the total options. We have often experienced
websites and apps that were accessible suddenly become inaccessible
with the introduction of new technology or upgrades. So how much can
we really trust that the existing options will remain accessible
forever? None of the Point of Sale machines and kiosks are accessible
today. Having more accessible options will reduce our risk and it’s
our right by law.

5.So many issues needs to be resolved. Somebody should take it up.
We do sometimes complain and crib amongst ourselves, but expect
somebody else to find a solution. We can resolve lot many issues with
much lesser time if all of us raise and act together with a unified
voice and in front of right people at the right time. Do you think you
should also contribute now?

6.How many NGOs have supported this cause?
We have reached out to over 40 NGOs. About 5 of them have informed us
so far that they have sent the letters to the authorities and few more
are in process. Please drop us a line if you are associated with any
NGO and we will share the letters and relevant details, It takes just
a few minutes to send the letters.

7.I believe in the issue and have also contributed. What’s the 
status?

A.We have had one meeting with RBI on notes. Hoping for another
meeting on digital currency in a few days. Post the start of our
campaign, RBI Governor had made an announcement to come up with
measures for senior citizens and PWD by end of October, Let’s see if
they adhere to the time and more importantly if they include
accessible currency. Still waiting for the response from Finance
Ministry.
B.We have around 4600 signatories on change.org petition, still far
away from the targeted 20,000.

8.How can I contribute?
a.Sign the petition on the below link. If you have already done, get
your family and friends to do it.
http://tinyurl.com/AICpetition
B. Like the Accessible Indian Currency Facebook page to keep yourself
updated. Keep sharing the articles and updates that are posted over
there.
http://tinyurl.com/facebookAIC
C.Reach out to the local MP, MLA and media and ask them to highlight 
the issue.

D.On an immediate basis, copy the below message and post it on your
Facebook wall and share on WhatsApp groups you are a part of. If you
have done it earlier, let’s do it again with the below new message.
Repetition and rein

Re: [AI] AccessIndia migration issue

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Yes, same is the case with me as well. But I don't want to receive any mails 
in digest form. Please make the necessary changes. Yours, Professor Shyam M. 
Sayanekar
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:00 PM
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Hi,

I have been receiving some of the mails in digest mode and some as 
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia migration issue

Welcome back Harish as a moderator.
Regards,


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Re: [AI] AccessIndia migration issue

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, what are the plus points or benifits of the new domain? Why we have 
shifted to the new domain?
- Original Message - 
From: "Harish Kotian" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 10:40 AM
Subject: [AI] AccessIndia migration issue



All

I hope you have received the announcement of migrating to new domain. If 
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I would particularly like to thank everyone in showing exemplary 
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Re: [AI] NCRT geography class 6 to 12 classes on youtube

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Mr. Aravind, I herd some of these lessons and they are really very 
good. My query is how to download all these lessons class-by-class? Please 
guide.
- Original Message - 
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Subject: [AI] NCRT geography class 6 to 12 classes on youtube



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Re: [AI] Hindu epaper

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

You are right. Even I have not received this paper for the last three days. 
They have not even sent any notice to that effect. Absence of the Hindu is 
creating a  big vacuum in the field of our source of information. Professor 
Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "suhas J" <suhasj...@gmail.com>

To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Cc: <sayeveryth...@sayeveryng.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:24 AM
Subject: [AI] Hindu epaper



Hi friends, as my subject line says friends I would like to know if
any member on this list has resived the hindu e paper for the last two
days. I know that march 13 was holly but after that I am unable to get
the paper for last 4 days so if any one knows the rison behind the
same pl provaid the much needed info thanks/regards.

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Re: [AI] Update on Eye-D

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Gaurav, I have placed my order for the I.D. Keypad in April 2016, and 
I have your acknowledgement to that effect. Are we really going to get such 
keypad on priority basis? Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Update on Eye-D



Hi George,

Eye-D app (spelled as e-y-e-d) is an assistive app for navigation, object
identification and OCR. You can download it for android here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.gingermind.eyed=en. We
are launching a paid pro version for the same with more features. It is 
not

yet available on iphone as we are short of manpower, but yes we do have
plans to launch on ios given we have received huge positive feedback on
android one.

Eye-D keypad is a miniature bluetooth keypad which has 8 hotkeys and a
joystick, and full qwerty. It is portable and wireless. We are working to
raise funds to manufacture first batch of keypads there.



Regards,
Gaurav

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:57 AM, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> 
wrote:



Gaurav,

Have missed out the early part of this thread. Pardon my ignorance. What
exactly does the I-D app do? When will the iPhone version be out?

If you like, you could write to me off the list at
george.abrah...@gmail.com

Thanks,

George

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Behalf
Of Gaurav Mittal
Sent: 14 March 2017 11:30
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Update on Eye-D

Mukesh, thank you for your kind words. I appreciate you volunteering for
donation and this will be a great help. I will ask my team member to get 
in

touch with you off this thread.

P L Verma, this is not available for iOS right now though it is in
pipeline. I will update once I have a concrete date.

Tony Kurian, thank you for your kind words.

Paulmuddha, eye-d keypad is highly customised for android phones and 
works

best with Android. It has a joystick and 8 hotkeys that will work for an
android smartphone. We will be launching a version for iphone as well,
though it will take time.

Rajesh, travel mode whereami is a part of Eye-D pro. Beta users are 
already

testing it and we are getting excellent response for this feature. Stay
tuned for more updates on launch date of Eye-D pro.

Regards,
Gaurav

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Asudani, Rajesh
<rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
wrote:

> Really wonderful.
> The app is surely a valuable tool for blind.
> I had heard that travel mode would be launched in eye-d which would 
> give
> continuous feedback about points of interest around us while 
> travelling.

> Is it already there?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of mukesh jain
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:27 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Update on Eye-D
>
> hello,
> i really appreciate the functioning of this app. recently, there was
> one notice displayed in my office on the board and i didn't had anyone
> to read to me the said notice at that time. so started feelong
> helpless but suddently i realised that i have your app installed on my
> mobile. so i took out my mobile and launched your app and pointed out
> my mobile camera on this notice and red the entire notice with your
> app.
>
> so this is surely a very efficient app for the people with visual
> impairment. since this is the free app, to support your efforts and to
> compensate the cost involved in developing this app, you can generate
> the donation link on the playstore itself. in addition, you can also
> prepare one write up about this app and circulate amongst your
> acquaintances. if such kind of write up is already prepared by you, do
> circulate with me as well and will try to get you the donation for
> this app.
>
> wish you hearty congratulations and  all the best for your work
>
>
> On 3/12/17, Gaurav Mittal <gauravm.it...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mohib,
> >
> > We are looking for funds to order our first batch of Eye-D keypad as
> there
> > is a significant one-time cost involved. We trying in this direction
and
> > there will be an update on launch date as soon as a positive event
> happens.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gaurav
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay
<mohibra...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So finally when can we expect EyeD keypad?
&

Re: [AI] ncert books for 8th in accessible format

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Rajesh, if you don't mind, please mail those books  to me as well. 
Awating your positive response, yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Subject: Re: [AI] ncert books for 8th in accessible format



Dear Anjina
I have them.
Science social science and maths.
Shall I mail, or you have already got them.


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Behalf Of Anjina Bhat

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Subject: [AI] ncert books for 8th in accessible format

Dear All
Greetings!!!

I am looking for ncert books in english medium for 8th class in accessible
format
If any one has , please share
Thanks and Regards
Anjina

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Re: [AI] Kriti Banga RJ Works

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Kirti, I herd your both the videos, - on triple A, and on Maggi.you 
have got a very good voice and I wish you all the best for future carrier.
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the disabled." 

Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:51 PM
Subject: [AI] Kriti Banga RJ Works



Dear Friends,



I know this will be considered as an Off-list posting, But I just wanted 
to
spread some information about the project  I have started in order to 
build
my network, as well as to find an appropriate opportunity for myself in 
the

media industry. So just thought to share my samples with you all as well.

I am Kriti Banga, an aspiring Radio Jockey and a Voice-Over artist. Just
recently with the right kind of guidance of a closest friend of mine, I
have been able to create a Youtube channel and upload my videos on the
same. Sharing below few of my samples, Like, comment, subscribe and Share
if you like them. Also any feedback/criticism will be appreciated.



Kriti banga radio jockey 1

https://youtu.be/QSjdBpw2YdE



Kriti banga radio jockey 2

https://youtu.be/T8Dzs3ItvR0



Kriti banga radio jockey 3

https://youtu.be/R5lcJ25vhvA



Kriti banga radio jockey 4

https://youtu.be/uQYrWTEWd9o



Kriti banga radio jockey 5

https://youtu.be/zdfuV5xVxOk



It is often said that efforts in right direction leads you to right
results. I am Really thankful to the person who helped me achieve this
right direction.

Enjoy Listening!



Warm Regards,

Kriti



keep your memory weak so that your relations can become strong. but keep
your heart strong so that weak relations do not affect you...

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Re: [AI] Nidhi Goyal writes Valentine's Day Special blogpost on SexDis

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I carefully went through the article and Nidhi's English is really 
impressive. But I feel that we cannot get the society as we want it to be. 
We ourselves have to strive to slowly change it. From her article, at least 
to me, it is not clear whether Nidhi wants to get married or not. I in no 
way want to hirt her. And if inadvertently I have, then truely sorry for it. 
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 1:35 PM
Subject: [AI] Nidhi Goyal writes Valentine's Day Special blogpost on SexDis



Hello everyone,

Hope you are well.

I am writing today to share a very special post by Sexuality and 
Disability

program director Nidhi Goyal, in which she explores a significant chapter
in her life and shows the assumptions and stigma that women with
disabilities that women with disabilities must navigate when it comes to
personal relationships.

Here is the link to the post http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/
2017/02/lovestorythatwasnt/

Happy Reading!

Best Regards,
Niharika Pandit
Program Coordinator: sexuality and disability
Point of View, Mumbai

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Re: [AI] With Valentine’s Day round the corner, here’s the heart-warming love story of visually-challenged couple Muniappan and Amirthavalli

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Truly romantic and genuin as well.
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From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision" 


Cc: "jnudpa" 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:11 AM
Subject: [AI] With Valentine’s Day round the corner, here’s the 
heart-warming love story of visually-challenged couple Muniappan and 
Amirthavalli




There are some couples who constantly cling to each other; there are
some who don’t need one another’s physical presence to feel loved;
then there are some, a special kind, whose every sense lights up in
each other’s presence — he knows she’s right there and she knows it
too. It doesn’t matter if they cannot see; they can feel and that’s
all that matters. For 19 years, this has been the guiding force in the
life of visually-challenged couple R. Muniappan and his wife M.
Amirthavalli.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-metroplus/It%E2%80%99s-the-little-things/article17294340.ece
He is a professor of History at Nandanam Arts College and she teaches
music at a government school in Villivakkam. Seated on plastic chairs
on a windy day at the Marina beach, the couple narrate their love
story. “May 13, 1995,” says Muniappan, “That’s when she said yes.” He
was 25 years old then and she was 24. “We met at the College Students
and Graduates Association of the Blind.” Muniappan was asked to write
and direct a drama to be aired on All India Radio and he picked
Amirthavalli to sing the opening song.




They would meet every day at the Association, from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. to
practise. The professional that he is, Muniappan kept their
conversations strictly work-related. But he had feelings for her and
had even conveyed it in a Braille letter a few months before. “I said
no,” says Amirthavalli. “I was staying at a women’s hostel then, and
everyone would keep telling me Muniappan said this and Muniappan said
that,” she smiles. It must have been torturous for Muniappan during
all those practice days, mustn’t it? He smiles and adds, “Finally,
after six months of waiting, she agreed.” The three years before their
wedding were unforgettable, he says. He remembers every detail. “We
watched our first movie together in a tent kottai called Mallika in
Mangadu,” he recalls.

Muniappan and Amirthavalli got married in 1998 in Chennai. They have a
16-year-old son. “One thing that stuck to me from what she told me
when we were younger was that we should do something for the
less-privileged when we were able,” says Muniappan. He promised he
would and kept his word. Today, he is the treasurer of the College
Students and Graduates Association of the Blind and has facilitated
several visually-challenged people to get government jobs. “I wouldn’t
have done this had she not planted the thought in me,” says Muniappan.
“I know he is tall,” says Amirthavalli, speaking of the picture of
Muniappan in her mind. “When we were young, we would ask our friends
how we looked,” adds Muniappan. “Everyone would tell us that we look
good together. Other than that, we don’t know much. It doesn’t
matter.”

Wondering where to spend Valentine’s Day? Turn to page 4 for a
comprehensive listing.


Muniappan





conveyed his feelings for her through a Braille letter



























--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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Re: [AI] Hi

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

This good morning person is mad or what?
- Original Message - 
From: "Ishwar Verma" 
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the disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Hi



moderator pleas say him to good bye, good bye, good bye.

On 2/4/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Think he's spamming the list since last 2-3 days?

On 2/4/17, mitesh gagnani  wrote:

good morning good morning good morning good morning good morning
Goodmorning Goodmorning Goodmorning Goodmorning Goodmorning Goodmorning
Goodmorning Goodmorning Goodmorning

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[AI] Congratulations to two of our members

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, I am happy to inform you all that two of our members, Meenal 
Singhvi and Taanya Balsara have been selected for the Neelam Kanga award of NAB 
India. I congratulate both of them on their success. Yours, Professor Shyam M. 
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Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

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But what is the name or company of the keyboard?
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Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack


bluetooth enabled keyboard. can be connected via vluetooth with any apple, 
android and window device.



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Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

Hello Bhavani, which keyboard are you using?
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Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack


add more keyboard commands like jaws in talkback. some extent i use 
keyboard to operate my mobile phone. specially while making online 
payments and i enjoy it through operating keyboard.



- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 7:32 PM
Subject: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



Hello everyone,

We at IIT Delhi are going to start working on adding more accessibility
features in the TalkBack under the collaboration with the Google 
TalkBack

Team. We will be highly delighted if you can provide us the major
challenges you face in day to day life in using TalkBack on your android
device.

Your inputs will help us in choosing major issues and setting up the
priorities for various tasks. Please feel free to contact me if you have
any confusion.

Keenly waiting for a warm response from all!

--
Thanks and Regard
Aakash Bansal
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi
web: http://web.iitd.ernet.in/~anz168049/

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Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

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Hello Bhavani, which keyboard are you using?
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack


add more keyboard commands like jaws in talkback. some extent i use 
keyboard to operate my mobile phone. specially while making online 
payments and i enjoy it through operating keyboard.



- Original Message - 
From: "Aakash Bansal" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 7:32 PM
Subject: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



Hello everyone,

We at IIT Delhi are going to start working on adding more accessibility
features in the TalkBack under the collaboration with the Google TalkBack
Team. We will be highly delighted if you can provide us the major
challenges you face in day to day life in using TalkBack on your android
device.

Your inputs will help us in choosing major issues and setting up the
priorities for various tasks. Please feel free to contact me if you have
any confusion.

Keenly waiting for a warm response from all!

--
Thanks and Regard
Aakash Bansal
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi
web: http://web.iitd.ernet.in/~anz168049/

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Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, first of all, the common users should find it to be user friendly. 
All the buttons should be labled, and in all applications the ok button 
should appear at a fixed place like the back button and the home button. 
Reading things line-by-line, word-by-word or letter-by-letter should be made 
simple.
- Original Message - 
From: "Aakash Bansal" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 7:32 PM
Subject: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



Hello everyone,

We at IIT Delhi are going to start working on adding more accessibility
features in the TalkBack under the collaboration with the Google TalkBack
Team. We will be highly delighted if you can provide us the major
challenges you face in day to day life in using TalkBack on your android
device.

Your inputs will help us in choosing major issues and setting up the
priorities for various tasks. Please feel free to contact me if you have
any confusion.

Keenly waiting for a warm response from all!

--
Thanks and Regard
Aakash Bansal
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi
web: http://web.iitd.ernet.in/~anz168049/

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Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, those who are comfortable with the touchscreen phones need not and 
would not go for the keypad phones. But many are not so comfortable, and are 
demanding a keypad phone. Let them have a phone of their choice if possible. 
Many feel that the touch screen phones have been imposed upon them and they 
are using them out of compultion and not by choice. Professor Shyam M. 
Sayanekar
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad



I have gone through almost all the replys here.
In my experience, transition from a keyphone to a touch phone was
smooth. If touch and type is difficult, the voice dictation is is
doing a good job and improving regularly both in Android and IOS. If
this is also not satisfactory, then a mini bluetooth keyboard is a
handy companion.
I cannot quite agree that touch screen based phones decrease operating
speed by a visually impaired person. Its the matter of individual's
ability. Somebody wanted IOS in new proposed phone that never going to
be materialized as IOS is purely Apple's proprietary operating system,
which can never be used in any Phones other than Apple's one. No
lisense will be granted for this by the Apple.

I have a few questions.
1. Basically, what is the planned specification for the phone?
2. Can the decent specification (on par with present day market) be
given for the price planned?
3. The present day mobile Operating systems are being subjected to
regular security tests and whenever a vulnerability is found, the
security patches are released and updated. Will this proposed phone
considers that?
Note: These days even the payments /netbanking is done using phone
hence the security is of paramount importance.
4. The new versions of operating systems are released periodically to
cater the various new requirements. After few newer versions, some of
the apps stop supporting the older version. Eg: The whatsapp no longer
available for the phones with Android V 2.3 or below.
5. Whether the proposed phone has planned for any bench mark
certification? if not then what is guarentee of standard and quality?

Note: The Phones manufactured should be able to meet certain
standards. If not, no agency, regulatory bodies, Mobile service
providers may not accept such phones.

Instead of trying to manufacture phone with keypad, It would be nice
to focus on developing apps to smoothen/improve the accessibility of
the existing phones.

Ps: I have no dislike for phones with keypad, but I feel we have come
a long way from keypad phones and almost all apps these days have been
designed for touch interface.

On 12/15/16, PAULMUDDHA <paulmud...@canarabank.com> wrote:

Dear learned friends

A friend of mine who is also a visually challenged is developing a smart
phone with keypad [with full pledged buttons with the help of a developer
from Mumbai

]

With his own funds.

He would like to know whether this smart phone could be marketed in India
and abroad for a price of Rs.5K.

Please throw some light on this important information and provide
suggestions to help him develop the phone.

Regards

Paul Muddha





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Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, I wish him a great success, as such phone is highly required. How 
much time he is likely to take? Someone from Banglore was developing a 
keyboard for the android phone to be connected through bluetooth but we have 
not heard anything recently from his side.Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "PAULMUDDHA" <paulmud...@canarabank.com>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>; 
<sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org>

Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:18 AM
Subject: [AI] smart phone with key pad



Dear learned friends

A friend of mine who is also a visually challenged is developing a smart
phone with keypad [with full pledged buttons with the help of a developer
from Mumbai

]

With his own funds.

He would like to know whether this smart phone could be marketed in India
and abroad for a price of Rs.5K.

Please throw some light on this important information and provide
suggestions to help him develop the phone.

Regards

Paul Muddha





SENIOR MANAGER

CANARA BANK

HO CALL CENTRE

M SECTION, M,

7TH FLOOR, "NAVEEN COMPLEX"

#14, OFF M G ROAD

BANGALORE 560 001




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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Mr. Ajay, now both Chandrashekhar Kulkarni and myself will come to you to 
sit at your feet to learn our responsibilities as academicians. Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call




Hi sir,

Let’s not debate on the advantages and disadvantages of cash and
without cash payment systems. As an academician, it’s your
responsibility to see the positive side of the fast and ever-changing
society and impart that knowledge to your students. I still remember
that example shared on our own list regarding the introduction of
computers in government organisations. Though there are people who are
happy to have a free lunch at their workplace but there also exists a
bunch of individuals who have achieved spectacular growth in their
careers using the same technology. Go to the office environment of
20/25 years ago and you wouldn’t be able to imagine a blind person at
a post higher than a typist/ telephone operator. According to me,
every big change comes with a pain but the pain is worth it at the
end. I have no intentions of arguing with a senior member but as a
list member I feel that a right message must be given to the younger
generation who considers this list to be the primary source of
information.

Regards,
Ajay


On 12/6/16, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni <kulkarni.chandr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear list memberss,
A very interesting and close to heart topic in the present
circumstances. According to me the problem is more severe for totally
blind persons. Today there is a loud cry for going in for paperless
currency, but has the government really thought about the needs of
differently abled persons or the Hon. Prime Minister and his ministry
really think that Divyang persons have a Divyang which takes them out
of any problems? The Government must think of persons like us not only
from the point of view of accessibility but also from safety and
security.
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkkarni

On 06/12/2016, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok Ajay, you say it is half full and I will say it is half empty. It is
easy
to quote proverbs and sayings, but practical difficulties do not get
solved
by quoting proverbs. You need not accept my views if you disagree with
them.
Just last month 32 lakh debit cards had to be called off. We hear 
several

cases of the ATM cards getting stuck in the machine. We also hear about
the
people getting robbed through their credit and debit cards. If it is the
case with the sighted people, how difficult it can be for the visually
impaired. Yours, professor Shyam M. sayanekar.
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From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making 
online

payments is tough call



Hi,

It intirely depends on us if we want to see it half empty or half full.

On 12/5/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:

A very good and factbased article. In fact a lot of discussion on this
issue
should be unddertaken. Further, the risk factor involved in cashless
transactions with regard to the VI also has to be taken into account.
Non-availability of network, the phones getting out of range are also
other
issues. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message -
From: "Sruti disAbility Rights Centre" <sruti.d...@gmail.com>
To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:49 PM
Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call



*http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
<http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/>*

*BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments
online
seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of
Indians
with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.


According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society 
(CIS)

last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food
delivery,
online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not
accessible
to
people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.

The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the
country
at 26 million, while advocacy grou

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Ok Ajay, you say it is half full and I will say it is half empty. It is easy 
to quote proverbs and sayings, but practical difficulties do not get solved 
by quoting proverbs. You need not accept my views if you disagree with them. 
Just last month 32 lakh debit cards had to be called off. We hear several 
cases of the ATM cards getting stuck in the machine. We also hear about the 
people getting robbed through their credit and debit cards. If it is the 
case with the sighted people, how difficult it can be for the visually 
impaired. Yours, professor Shyam M. sayanekar.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call




Hi,

It intirely depends on us if we want to see it half empty or half full.

On 12/5/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
A very good and factbased article. In fact a lot of discussion on this 
issue

should be unddertaken. Further, the risk factor involved in cashless
transactions with regard to the VI also has to be taken into account.
Non-availability of network, the phones getting out of range are also 
other

issues. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message -
From: "Sruti disAbility Rights Centre" <sruti.d...@gmail.com>
To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:49 PM
Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call



*http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
<http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/>*

*BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of 
Indians

with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.


According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food 
delivery,

online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible
to
people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.

The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the 
country
at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 
150

million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
mobile-based applications last year.

“The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that 
all
IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government 
is

still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some 
key

government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national
policy
on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
“ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal 
design

concepts are adopted and adhered to.”

However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber
was
completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
unlabeled buttons and graphics.

When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the 
user

experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.

Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible
ones.
Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading
graphic
tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. 
For
instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to 
buy

but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities
to
use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were
relatively
accessible, the study found.

“Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are 
more

people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
they sh

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Although it is a revolutionary step, what Rajendra Durve has written must 
also be taken into consideration. Even the sighted school students are not 
using computers for writing their examinations. the level of students is 
bound to be different, and all students may not learn the computer with 
equal ease. See the example of touch screen mobiles. some find it to be very 
comfortable while others are struggling to manage with it.  Therefore, 
though the idea is good, it should be implemented on experimental basis and 
the students should be given the freedom to choose whether he wants to use 
the computer system or the traditional writer system. Professor Shyam M. 
Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "rajendra dhurve" <rd0...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired 
students independent in reading and writing




This is not at all a revolutionary decision!!

Sorry friends... but I'm as a student who knows technology very well
is not at all agree with this decision!!
It won't  100% work!
I myself come across many Technical failures, Machinery faults,
several times during online exams!
It will increase the burden of VH student during Examination time like:
A student has to listen the question from Synthetic voice to read out
the questions, at the same time She/he has to focus on her/his typing
speed, has to be careful about the Symbols to put in, while typing,
time duration, Spelling mistakes, Paragraph change, etc.
tell me one thing, then what will happen with the vital right of the
scribe guidelines of the country for which many big lawyers fought
cases in Supreme court to converts the Extra time into Compensatory
time?
In this way, the Scribe rule of the country will be affected and being
a very young age students will have to come across various natural
difficulties other than these I mentioned above!
I don't understand, how the passed out students from school is
supporting such rough innovative experiment on their Innocent
juniors!!
Friends, just remember your own school days class test, unit test and
examinations difficulties! Just assume yourself in their place and
then give a flick of immagination! How difficult it will be!!
Regards:

On 12/5/16, shankar shan <shankarsai...@gmail.com> wrote:

wow!!!

this is called revolution.

this should be Executed all across  the country.

and also, the students  should  get an Opportunity  to explore the
computers  from the standard 1.

keep going!!!





On 12/5/16, Avichal Bhatnagar <coolavic...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, a revolutionary step indeed. Happy to see my alma mater making
such progressive moves.

On 12/5/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:

Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.

On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma <prashant...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and 
reading.

Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
support
in its implementation.

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022



CIRCULAR

3 December 2016



Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
examinations



All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi 
are

requested to take a note of this important policy change.



Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education
of
the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its 
Class

6
to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to 
do
away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to 
write

their examinations independently using computers.



1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing
school
education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own



2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
examinations
(unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
computers
after April 2017.



3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of
Class
10
and 12 till 2018.



4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school
examinations.



5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
computers
after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
2016.
Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. 
These
students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and 
computer

op

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

A very good and factbased article. In fact a lot of discussion on this issue 
should be unddertaken. Further, the risk factor involved in cashless 
transactions with regard to the VI also has to be taken into account. 
Non-availability of network, the phones getting out of range are also other 
issues. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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From: "Sruti disAbility Rights Centre" <sruti.d...@gmail.com>
To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phones and Tabs." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:49 PM
Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call




*http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
<http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/>*

*BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of Indians
with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.


According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food delivery,
online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible 
to

people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.

The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the country
at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 150
million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
mobile-based applications last year.

“The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that all
IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government is
still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some key
government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national 
policy

on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
“ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal design
concepts are adopted and adhered to.”

However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber 
was

completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
unlabeled buttons and graphics.

When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the user
experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.

Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible 
ones.
Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading 
graphic

tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. For
instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to buy
but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities 
to

use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were 
relatively

accessible, the study found.

“Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are more
people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
they should work towards being inclusive,” said Narasimhan of CIS.

Albinder Dhinda, cofounder of grocery delivery service Grofers, said their
app meets all accessibility requirements. “However, the disability tools
provided by Google Play Store or the App Store often don’t benefit the 
user

and are hard for them to use. We are trying to make it better. Things like
online payments won’t be accessible to people with disabilities as those
apps are supported by third party sites, and don’t fall within our
settings. We’re trying to make it better. We’re three years behind the US,
in the playground they made. It’ll be a while before we reach their 
 level,”

he said.

Source: Times of India

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Re: [AI] Vi Persons Practicing Law

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Amar, in every job or profession, the visually challenged persons face 
different problems because of their blindness, and each person trys to 
findout solutions acording to one's nature and capacity.  but I feel that 
the challenges in the field of practicing law are far greater than in other 
fields. If you know Dr. Damodar Vadegaonkar and Mr. Intiyaz Ahemad, they 
were extremely brillient and had a mastery over law. I am not boasting, but 
even I am a student of GLC and have done LL.M. and Dr. Vadegaonkar taught me 
for all the five years. Never the less, both of them prefered to teach in 
Law colleges because of the amount of dependance involved in practicing law. 
Studying law and practicing law are two different fields.  Now with the 
availability of electronic instruments the self-dependance has increased to 
a large extent. Even then, the  vi. persons cannot have the ease of the 
sighted counterparts. Therefore I raised this issue. I hope, I will get more 
feed back.
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the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Vi Persons Practicing Law



Dear Sir,

While your questions are litigation specific, but happy to discuss 
strategies over a call.


Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

On 30-Nov-2016, at 12:19 AM, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Dear members, I am here with opening a new topic for discussion and 
information. Many of the VI students study law and pass the LL.B or even 
LL.M. examinations with flying colours. But I am feeling curious so as to 
how many of them actually take to legal practice. And if they do so, how 
many do chamber-practicing and how many actually appear before the Bench. 
How many are practicing independently and how many are practicingg with 
another or with a firm.
While practicing law, what difficulties they face, particularly with 
regard to reading, writing and mobility? How far they have to depend upon 
sighted persons? How far the bear acts, court verdicts, case law, books 
and other material is available in accessible format? what is the 
attitude of the sighted clients towards the Blind advocate? Please 
provide as much detailed information as possible. Thanking you, Yours, 
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar




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[AI] Vi Persons Practicing Law

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear members, I am here with opening a new topic for discussion and 
information. Many of the VI students study law and pass the LL.B or even LL.M. 
examinations with flying colours. But I am feeling curious so as to how many of 
them actually take to legal practice. And if they do so, how many do 
chamber-practicing and how many actually appear before the Bench. How many are 
practicing independently and how many are practicingg with another or with a 
firm. 
While practicing law, what difficulties they face, particularly with regard to 
reading, writing and mobility? How far they have to depend upon sighted 
persons? How far the bear acts, court verdicts, case law, books and other 
material is available in accessible format? what is the attitude of the sighted 
clients towards the Blind advocate? Please provide as much detailed information 
as possible. Thanking you, Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar  



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Re: [AI] Test mail

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Your mails are reaching the group.
- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:40 PM
Subject: [AI] Test mail



Regards,
Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] about lekha

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

For JAWS 16.
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From: "TIKA RAM MAHATO" <tika949...@gmail.com>
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the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] about lekha



For Jaws or Nvda.

On 10/27/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, same is the case with me. I have also installed Lekha, but I don't
know how to connect a Hindi file with Lekha  and how to make it read. 
Please


guide me as well. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Subject: [AI] about lekha



hellow, dear members, I have installed lekha in my pc but I am not
able to start it how should I  use lekha when it comes to reading
hindi. what are  the commands of lekha please explaine  step by step.

with regard

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Re: [AI] about lekha

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, same is the case with me. I have also installed Lekha, but I don't 
know how to connect a Hindi file with Lekha  and how to make it read. Please 
guide me as well. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "sanjeev kumar" <sanjeevkumar0...@gmail.com>

To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:40 PM
Subject: [AI] about lekha



hellow, dear members, I have installed lekha in my pc but I am not
able to start it how should I  use lekha when it comes to reading
hindi. what are  the commands of lekha please explaine  step by step.

with regard

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Re: [AI] live braille

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, how does it work? How much training is required? What is the price? 
Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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From: "Selva Kumar" <selvak...@gmail.com>

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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:22 AM
Subject: [AI] live braille



Hi there,

I am selvakumar from bangalore
I want to share good news with you all
We have got best innovation for the blind
we have got best assistive device for as
name is live braille it will help as to walk independently
for more details please click the link below
http://www.livebraille.com/

Thanks,and regards,
Selvakumar.


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Re: [AI] need the menssioned books. kindly take a movement in sharing them if you have.

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, out of the books maintioned by you, except Bipin Chandra, if you 
happen to get any of the other books, then please send it to me as well, 
because I don't have any of them and I would also like to have them. 
Thanking you, yours, Professor Shuyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "meharaj shaik" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 11:29 AM
Subject: [AI] need the menssioned books. kindly take a movement in sharing 
them if you have.




hi friends, i am so happy to place in record that priyanka mam and
gunjamsing sir helped me through providing me the books laust timei
requested here.
this time i am looking for the following books and i positively hope
that they will be available with some one and i could be able to get
them..

India’s Struggle For Independence – Bipan Chandra. (History)
India’s Ancient Past – R.S. Sharma. (History)
Indian Art and Culture – Nitin Singhania.
Indian Economy – Ramesh Singh. (Economy)
Norman Lowe OR History of Modern World – Jain and Mathur (World History –
thanking you in advance
shaik meharaz.
mobile: 8985982535


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Re: [AI] "Insight". an upcoming English magazine in braille-Seekingcontribution of articles.

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Dear Payal Madam and Madhu Madam, What I have stated is correct.  To remind 
you I am posting the message sent by Mitra Jyoti in March 2016. Thanking 
you, Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar

Original message Quoted:
From: "Mitra Jyothi" <mj.tblibr...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 12:39 PM
Subject: [AI] Communication about the braille magazine


Dear Members

We are pleased  to inform you that Mitra Jyothi would  bring out a
quarterly Braille magazine  in collaboration with Radio Udaan  titled "
Inclusion " . The magazine will contain information about the latest
updates on all fields related to visual impairement such as education,
health care government schemes along with articles and stories .  We are
happy if you could contribute to this magazine by sharing articles, novels
, stories etc. As and when it permits we would be able to publish  in our
magazine .  You can subscribe for the magazine or send articles to
mj.tblibr...@gmail.com .  The first issue would be provided free of cost ,
however, the following issues would have a nominal charge .


This magazine would be different because it will be a medium for
showcasing
the creativity of our visually impaired friends.


Your participation and valuable suggestions are highly appreciated .
Thanks & Regards,
Mitra Jyothi Team CA Site # P22, 31st Main,
18th Cross, Sector 1, HSR Layout,
Behind National Institute of Fashion Technology (NIFT College)
Bangalore - 560102
Ph: 080-22587623/25>
http://www.mitrajyothi.org

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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] "Insight". an upcoming English magazine in 
braille-Seekingcontribution of articles.






-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Payal Kapoor
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:11 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] "Insight". an upcoming English magazine in 
braille-Seeking

contribution of articles.

This is an entirely new endeavour Professor Sayanekar. i am not
certain which publication that was earlier.
we are starting afresh and this is the first notification that has
been sent to this list related to Insight.
However, we will look at the best we can do with the circulation of
the first edition and keep you informed of the same.
Please stay in touch for more updates.
Regards,
Payal

On 5/15/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:


Initially it was stated that the first issue of the magazine would be

given


free of cost. Accordingly, I enrolled my name. What happened to that
proposal? Are we going to get the first issue free of charge? Thanking

you,


yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar. Cell: 8108145337



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Re: [AI] "Insight". an upcoming English magazine in braille-Seeking contribution of articles.

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Initially it was stated that the first issue of the magazine would be given 
free of cost. Accordingly, I enrolled my name. What happened to that 
proposal? Are we going to get the first issue free of charge? Thanking you, 
yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar. Cell: 8108145337 




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Re: [AI] Pranjal Patil - Visually-impaired Ulhasnagar girl cracks IAS in maiden attempt

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Today, that is on 12th May 2016 Pranjal was interviewed on ABP Maza at 
ten-thirty PM. She gave the interview in Marathi. I heartily congratulate 
her on her gletering successProfessor Shyam M. Sayanekar.
- Original Message - 
From: "Prashant Naik" <pran...@gmail.com>
To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>; "sayeverything" 
<sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org>

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:07 PM
Subject: [AI] Pranjal Patil - Visually-impaired Ulhasnagar girl cracks IAS 
in maiden attempt




Dear List,

I am so pleased to share this news with you all.  Pranjal, our Xavier’s 
and

XRCVC student achieved great success.  I still remember her entry to
college for F.Y.B.A. (Political science) in the year 2007 and my computer
teaching to her with JAWS.  She is calm in nature but very very determined
and also excellent with her studies.   My heartiest congrats to Pranjal.

Here is a news story from today’s DNA newspaper.

By NAVEETA SINGH | Thu, 12 May 2016-07:15am , DNA

Source:
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-visually-impaired-ulhasnagar-girl-cracks-ias-in-maiden-attempt-2211517

Born with a weak eyesight, Patil lost her vision completely when she was
just six, but till then she had made up her mind to be an Indian
Administrative Services (IAS) officer someday.

Where there's a will, there's a way and 26-year-old Pranjal Patil, a
visually-impaired Ulhasnagar resident, has proved it right by clearing the
Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) exams and getting an All-India
ranking of 773.

Born with a weak eyesight, Patil lost her vision completely when she was
just six, but till then she had made up her mind to be an Indian
Administrative Services (IAS) officer someday. And today she is living the
dream. "I just want to celebrate this moment. Let this feeling sink in
first," said Patil, who is currently in Delhi.

Born with a weak eyesight, Patil lost her vision completely when she was
just six, but till then she had made up her mind to be an Indian
Administrative Services (IAS) officer someday.

Where there's a will, there's a way and 26-year-old Pranjal Patil, a
visually-impaired Ulhasnagar resident, has proved it right by clearing the
Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) exams and getting an All-India
ranking of 773.

Born with a weak eyesight, Patil lost her vision completely when she was
just six, but till then she had made up her mind to be an Indian
Administrative Services (IAS) officer someday. And today she is living the
dream. "I just want to celebrate this moment. Let this feeling sink in
first," said Patil, who is currently in Delhi.

She is now awaiting her posting. "I do not know what they (UPSC) will give
me. But whatever it is I am up for the challenge," said the feisty girl
from Ulhasnagar.

To fulfil her ambition of becoming an IAS officer, Patil did not let her
lost vision discourage her. Though her schooling was in braille, she did
her graduation in political science from Mumbai's St. Xavier's College and
did her Master of Arts in International relations from Delhi's Jawaharlal
Nehru University (JNU). "In my education technology played an important
role. I got this software installed on my computer which would read out
chapters from various books for me," she said.

Though she always nursed this ambition, she started studying seriously for
UPSC from last year. "I love to read and the entire process of academics
excites me. I studied on my own and took test series from ALS academy in
Delhi," she said.

Although it is difficult for people to clear UPSC in one attempt, Patil 
did
it. "There were times when I was marred with doubts and disbelief 
regarding

my ambition that. I think that when you have doubts, then only you get
motivated," concluded the 26-year-old.

End of article.

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Re: [AI] Eye-D Keypad empowers Android Talkback

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, thanks for your prompt reply. I want to book this key board, but 
don't know how to book it. Therefore, will you please consider this mail of 
mine as the booking request? Thanking you, yours, Professor Shyam M. 
Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Rahul Kelapure" <rkelap...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Eye-D Keypad empowers Android Talkback



Dear Shyam Sir,

It looks that, the price is Rs. 1700 and 20% off if you preorder now
i.e. discount of Rs. 340.

It would be a normal small size keyboard which would b connected to
blue tooth of your device.

More info we would be able to get when actually we get to see the 
keyboard.


I don't think, there would be any special commands to use it.

Trust that helps.

Thanks and warm regards,

Rahul.

On 4/7/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, what is the price of this keyboard and how to order it? Where will 
we


get the key commands if any? Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message -
From: "Aaruni Sharma" <aruni...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning


the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Eye-D Keypad empowers Android Talkback



Hi, The idea is good. Although I have a bluetooth keyboard already, it
works better and almost 100% accurately. But While using it with
android, it produces multiple keys for a single press and is very
iritating indeed, almost unusable. However, please give us some more
details about the specs.
I also tried ordering it but did not get any confirmation.
Thanks,

On 07/04/2016, Arjun Malhotra <malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com> wrote:

interesting indeed! I've prebooked the keyboard. I hope it surpasses
my expectations. I'm little concerned about the grip of the illastic
band. Will it be able to hold the phone? Most of the phones have
really nice smooth, shiny and slippery bodies. Will it be able to hold
the phone?

On 4/6/16, shankar shan <shankarsai...@gmail.com> wrote:

hi, greetings
I liked the idea, but, havw a question.
what will be the minimum data transver speed per second?
why I am asking this question because, I just tested some of the
bluetooth keyboards with s4, s5, s6, and s6 edg.
the result was  spoken feedback willb be delayed


On 4/6/16, sidnc1986_gmail <sidnc1...@gmail.com> wrote:



Thanks all for participating in our survey few months ago we had
conducted.

For those who didn't participate, we had conducted this survey for
knowing
whether physical keypads are really needed in today's world.

It seems that almost all of us need a physical keypad. Our survey
which
gave

us 95% positive response from across the world proved this to us. So
here
it

is. We have come  up with a design for bluetooth keypad that serves
our
need. Not only this helps in simple tasks like typing but it empowers
Talkback and also attaches itself on your phone with ease.

Features it offers:
1. Accessible
Keys embossed with patterns for accessibility

2. Hotkeys
Both predefined and customizable hotkeys for convenience

3. Eye-D keypad empowers Talkback
Eye-D keypad enables Talkback features all via a keyboard. Navigate
controls, read text and edit text on the fly without getting into
those
difficult gestures. Do all this just the way you have been doing on
your
PC's.

4. No more stress on neck
Holding phone in one hand, performing gestures with other and then
bending
your neck to listen to Talkback. No need to do all this anymore.

5. Portable
Detachable and sliding formfactor for easy use

6. Ergonomic design for easy grip
All keystrokes are managed in a way that you need to use only your 
two

thumbs. Don't let that grip on phone and keypad slip away.

7. Assisting counterpart
it's not just another device, it's a part of your favourite
smartphone,
fit

for every screen size.

8. Wireless connectivity
Clutter free wireless Bluetooth(LE) design

So go ahead and preorder your Eye-D keypad right away. 20% off on a
keypad
specially designed for your Android Smart Phones.
http://www.eye-d.in/preorder/


Any queries?
Post them on our facebook page at
https://www.facebook.com/Eye-D-513406702110100/?fref=ts
Or on mobile facebook page at
https://m.facebook.com/Eye-D-513406702110100/?refid=46=eyJzZWFyY2hfc2lkIjoiOGFmNjc3N2RiNTA0YzhhYTJmY2E1ZGYxYWYxOWI4NzMiLCJxdWVyeSI6IkV5ZS1ELTUxMzQwNjcwMjExMDEwMCIsInNlYXJjaF90eXBlIjoiU2VhcmNoIiwic2VxdWVuY2VfaWQiOjE4NTY1MTM2MywicGFnZV9udW1iZXIiOjEsImZpbHRlcl90eXBlIjoiU2VhcmNoIiwiZW50X2lkIjo1MTM0MDY3MDIxMTAxMDAsInBvc2l0aW9uIjowLCJyZXN1bHRfdHlwZSI6Mjc0fQ%3D%3D


With best regards,
Siddhant Chothe
Cofounder at http://www.techvision.net.in
Skype/Facebook/Twitter: sidnc86

"I'm an imperfect perf

Re: [AI] Eye-D Keypad empowers Android Talkback

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, what is the price of this keyboard and how to order it? Where will we 
get the key commands if any? Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Aaruni Sharma" <aruni...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Eye-D Keypad empowers Android Talkback



Hi, The idea is good. Although I have a bluetooth keyboard already, it
works better and almost 100% accurately. But While using it with
android, it produces multiple keys for a single press and is very
iritating indeed, almost unusable. However, please give us some more
details about the specs.
I also tried ordering it but did not get any confirmation.
Thanks,

On 07/04/2016, Arjun Malhotra <malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com> wrote:

interesting indeed! I've prebooked the keyboard. I hope it surpasses
my expectations. I'm little concerned about the grip of the illastic
band. Will it be able to hold the phone? Most of the phones have
really nice smooth, shiny and slippery bodies. Will it be able to hold
the phone?

On 4/6/16, shankar shan <shankarsai...@gmail.com> wrote:

hi, greetings
I liked the idea, but, havw a question.
what will be the minimum data transver speed per second?
why I am asking this question because, I just tested some of the
bluetooth keyboards with s4, s5, s6, and s6 edg.
the result was  spoken feedback willb be delayed


On 4/6/16, sidnc1986_gmail <sidnc1...@gmail.com> wrote:



Thanks all for participating in our survey few months ago we had
conducted.

For those who didn't participate, we had conducted this survey for
knowing
whether physical keypads are really needed in today's world.

It seems that almost all of us need a physical keypad. Our survey which
gave

us 95% positive response from across the world proved this to us. So
here
it

is. We have come  up with a design for bluetooth keypad that serves our
need. Not only this helps in simple tasks like typing but it empowers
Talkback and also attaches itself on your phone with ease.

Features it offers:
1. Accessible
Keys embossed with patterns for accessibility

2. Hotkeys
Both predefined and customizable hotkeys for convenience

3. Eye-D keypad empowers Talkback
Eye-D keypad enables Talkback features all via a keyboard. Navigate
controls, read text and edit text on the fly without getting into those
difficult gestures. Do all this just the way you have been doing on 
your

PC's.

4. No more stress on neck
Holding phone in one hand, performing gestures with other and then
bending
your neck to listen to Talkback. No need to do all this anymore.

5. Portable
Detachable and sliding formfactor for easy use

6. Ergonomic design for easy grip
All keystrokes are managed in a way that you need to use only your two
thumbs. Don't let that grip on phone and keypad slip away.

7. Assisting counterpart
it's not just another device, it's a part of your favourite smartphone,
fit

for every screen size.

8. Wireless connectivity
Clutter free wireless Bluetooth(LE) design

So go ahead and preorder your Eye-D keypad right away. 20% off on a
keypad
specially designed for your Android Smart Phones.
http://www.eye-d.in/preorder/


Any queries?
Post them on our facebook page at
https://www.facebook.com/Eye-D-513406702110100/?fref=ts
Or on mobile facebook page at
https://m.facebook.com/Eye-D-513406702110100/?refid=46=eyJzZWFyY2hfc2lkIjoiOGFmNjc3N2RiNTA0YzhhYTJmY2E1ZGYxYWYxOWI4NzMiLCJxdWVyeSI6IkV5ZS1ELTUxMzQwNjcwMjExMDEwMCIsInNlYXJjaF90eXBlIjoiU2VhcmNoIiwic2VxdWVuY2VfaWQiOjE4NTY1MTM2MywicGFnZV9udW1iZXIiOjEsImZpbHRlcl90eXBlIjoiU2VhcmNoIiwiZW50X2lkIjo1MTM0MDY3MDIxMTAxMDAsInBvc2l0aW9uIjowLCJyZXN1bHRfdHlwZSI6Mjc0fQ%3D%3D


With best regards,
Siddhant Chothe
Cofounder at http://www.techvision.net.in
Skype/Facebook/Twitter: sidnc86

"I'm an imperfect perfectionist perfectionizing the imperfect in me!"



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Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please share it 
with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "gufran ahmed" <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>

To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh



dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded the
studdy material yesterday.
the url of the egyankosh is
www.egyankosh.ac.in

hapy reading.


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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

No, that is not enough. there is upper ribbon and lower ribbon as well. 
Further many tabs and arrow keies will confuse you still more.
- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



Now I am totally confused boss.
Some say, virtual ribbons.
Some say regular ribbons.
Before I can make out if they are different, some say no ribbons but jaws 
gives them in menus.

Again some say stay away from the feature.
Some say short cutts.
Some say regular menus also.

Now, exactly what a totally blind non-tech savy person is supposed to do 
if she or he wants to use "Bill baba's" software for writing a document, 
please?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Pranav Lal

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'

Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

I am not sure. Jaws 17 has it for sure. Stay away from the feature. Use 
regular

ribbons.
Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of

Himanshu Sahu
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:02 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the

disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Is it in JAWS 16? How to use the feature?

On 3/22/16, Pranav Lal  wrote:

Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a
menu like interface.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Aravind R
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup
installation, jaws will work well with regular ribbens.
we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben
concept fresh thats all.

On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:

Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
That's a news to me.
So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read
virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the
things in word 7 10
13 and so on?

Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more
often than not.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Hi Vikas and all,

I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are
perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure
if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly
well.

Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on
power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010
PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very
difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is
turned on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
  - Original Message -
  From: Pranav Lal
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.'
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


  mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of
  Asudani, Rajesh
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the
  disabled. 
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a
particular
  option, is a challenge.
  Any tips?

  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of
  Aravind R
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the
  disabled.
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
  > JAWS 16.
  >
  > Can short cut keys be used?
  > Are ribbons navigable?
  >
  > Actually I am using office 7, and find 

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

But how to turn off the virtual ribbons? I have to often draw tables in MS 
Word, which I could do extremely  well in MS Word 2003.  Adding or deleting 
rows or collumns was also very easy. But now I cannot do any of those things 
because of the ribbon business. Therefore, along with the currunt MS Ofice, 
I again installed Office 2003 and I use it to make all the changes as and 
when I want them.

Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power 
point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite 
easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do 
the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no 
further explanation as to why does that happen.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Pranav Lal
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'

 Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


 particular

 option, is a challenge.
 Any tips?
 PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not hurt.

 Pranav

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 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of

 Asudani, Rajesh
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
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 Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

 Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

 Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
 option, is a challenge.
 Any tips?

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
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 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
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 Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

 minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

 On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
 > JAWS 16.
 >
 > Can short cut keys be used?
 > Are ribbons navigable?
 >
 > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
 > ribbons partially navigable.
 > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
 > is complaining about inaccessibility.
 > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
 > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
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 > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
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 > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
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 > Pranav
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Mr. Ajay, it is easy to preach philosophy, but coping with that 
philosophy is not easy for everyone.  Nobody says that we should not make 
efforts, But when you say an outdated technology, there should be some 
reason to turn the technology into an out dated one. What was wrong with 
Office 2003, so that it was redundend? We never mind changes but they should 
be for the betterment of the community, and not only for the whim of the 
developers. The Microsoft Vista is the best example. That version of the 
operating system totally went flop.  What was wrong with the nokia phones? 
They could havbe improved those to the higher level.  My main objection is 
that they never take into consideration the difficulties faced by the VI 
persons, whose number is not neglijable. And it is only we, who have to keep 
adjusting. Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



Hi all,

Completely agree with Pranav, Ribbens are fully accessible with either
jaws or NVDA for that matter. I think we should focus on updating our
knowledge rather than clinging to outdated stuff. There are number of
online courses by cisco or other institutions which can enable us to
keep ourselves updated with the latest technology. Its just about
putting that extra effort.

Note: Just a personal opinion, don't want to criticize anyone in 
particular.


Regards,
Ajay

On 3/19/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



Shyam,

Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and 
columns


and
have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do the
following.
1. Navigate to the insert tab.
2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the 
options


under
the insert tab.
3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
4. Activate the option called "table"
5. Alternatively, to do steps 1 through 3 faster,  press alt+n for 
insert


and
then press the letter t for table.
6. Arrow up to the option called "Insert Table".
7. Press enter to activate it.
8. Follow the oprompts.

To insert and or delete rows and or columns, you can activate the 
context


menu
when you are in a table and activate the relevant options.

Pranav



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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
- Original Message - 
From: "Pranav Lal" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



Shyam,

Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and columns 
and

have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do the
following.
1. Navigate to the insert tab.
2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the options 
under

the insert tab.
3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
4. Activate the option called "table"
5. Alternatively, to do steps 1 through 3 faster,  press alt+n for insert 
and

then press the letter t for table.
6. Arrow up to the option called "Insert Table".
7. Press enter to activate it.
8. Follow the oprompts.

To insert and or delete rows and or columns, you can activate the context 
menu

when you are in a table and activate the relevant options.

Pranav



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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, but I don't understand that in stead of making things more and more 
simple why they make things more and more difficult. When Office 2003 was so 
very user friendly and simple, I don't understand why they had to bring this 
ribben business. Same is the case with mobiles. Android lolipop is more 
tedious than Kitkat. The researchers are there to help people or to add to 
their difficulties.
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the disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



office 2003 shortcut keys also work with 2010 sir but jaws wont
announce until you complete entire shortcuts.
for example, for moving a sheet, you type alt+e then m in office 2003.
here, after typing alt+e, jaws will say "continue typing office 2003
shortcut" then it will say nothing like announcing general keys.
you have to assume and type like m for move and l for delete, then
jaws will announce.
i will send you the tutorial personally.

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Dear Rajesh
Short cut  keys of Office 2003 usually works on later versions as well.
We need to keep this short cut key list as a reference.
Harish.

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Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 17 March 2016 11:43
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concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
option, is a challenge.
Any tips?

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Aravind R
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:

JAWS 16.

Can short cut keys be used?
Are ribbons navigable?

Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
ribbons partially navigable.
But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
is complaining about inaccessibility.
She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.

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Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?

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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, I was very comfortable with MS Offfice 2003, but the ribben feature 
is beyond my understanding. I am not  able to use any menues in MS Word 
because of this ribben business.  Will you please explain me this feature 
step-by-step with examples? Can I get any tutorials on this matter? Thanking 
you in anticipation, Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



yes sir, its accessible with jaws.
its just a matter of learning the ribben features when you migrate
from office 2003 to 2010.
i have already trained your RBI colligues balaji from chennai and
bhupendar from ahmedabad.
whatever doubts you have, you can ask us.

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Friends
Is office 10 accessible with JAWS?
Please guide.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
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Re: [AI] Need Audio Books in English or Hindi? Tell us!

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

I also congratulate Nidhi Madam, but please someone will tell me how to open 
the clickable lincks?

Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Need Audio Books in English or Hindi? Tell us!



Dear Nidhi,
I must congratulate you for your/your organization commendable work.
I just browse through the least and I found very interesting? however,
when I tried clicking on particular title, it did not down load. EG. Just
for trial purpose I was clicking on who will cry when you die by Robin
Sharma but it is not getting down loaded. Any mistake that I am making?
PLS guide. Ones again hearty congratulations for above work and sharing
with all of us.





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Date:   03/15/2016 10:16 PM
Subject:[AI] Need Audio Books in English or Hindi? Tell us!
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Dear All

Some of you might already know about our online audio books library -
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Now, we are in  a position to add some more content in English and Hindi.
A
new volunteer who wants to record, can do English and Hindi recordings.
Please let me know if there is any content that you need, and is not
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Please do share your requirements. with us on this email id.

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Re: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

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This is really irritating. There is no procedural unanimity. If the Central 
railway issues an i.d. card, will the western railway not recognise it? But 
wherever the issue of giving concession comes, the government offices always 
make a fus and make you run from pillar to post. Moreover, all the work is 
never completed in one turn and you have to visit these offices again and 
again. They never clearly tell you what are the different requirements, and 
once you reach an office, they will send you back to get something elce. If 
you are working, one casual leave is never sufficient. In Maharashtra, just 
to get the card of State Transport concession, first you have to go to the 
social welfair department of the Zilla Parishad, fill  up a form, get the 
card, then go to the buss depot to get the stamp and signature of the depot 
manager. Here, the treatment given  to you is like that of a dog. After 
waiting in line for hours together, they declare that the time is over, and 
we have to go again in the next wweek. I don't know when the situation will 
improve.
- Original Message - 
From: "Zoher" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:21 PM
Subject: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card



Friends,

Today I decided to apply for Railway disabled I card, for this I 
approached DRM office cst/vt railway station.


There the person checked my all document and told that the disability 
certificate is of Sir JJ Hospital and your concession certificate is from 
Worli sea face. So as per your concession certificate you have to go to 
Mumbai central Railway station to make the I card.


I went to Mumbai central railway station, as searching the DRM office in 
station premises was itself was a Brilliant task of investigation.


I could locate the office after half an hour and again disappointed by the 
reply from officer.


He told me that you have to visit CST/VT railway station as your 
handicapped certificate is from Sir JJ hospital which does not come under 
us. I argued with him that my concession certificate is from Worli NAB, He 
replied we are more concerned with disability certificate and we cannot 
verify 2 different certificate at 2 different places. I asked what should 
I do next? He replied go to Sir JJ hospital and make your Railway 
concession certificate.


I followed the instruction and went to JJ hospital and took almost 45 
minutes to locate the eye department. Over there I came to know that the 
time for case paper is only up to 11:30 am. I asked I just want to make 
railway concession certificate and I have a disability certificate issued 
by the same hospital.


They replied go to clerk office and get the information. Again the task of 
locating the clerk office was as difficult as searching diamond from coal 
mine, I completed this task within 25 minutes.


In clerk office I was told that we don't have concession certificate 
format so go to CST railway station or take the printout online and after 
filling the form get here to certify.


By this time my energy was completely exhausted and I decided to go back 
to my office.


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