Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-22 Thread Jason Wilson
How does one get Calix to talk to you? They seemed less than interested to talk at WISPAPalooza and no call from the lead generated at he show. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-22 Thread Darin Steffl
You have to buy direct from Calix. We upped our plan prices $10 per month for new subs and now give the router "free". We're slowly migrating existing customers to these new plans and putting the Calix in their home. We're about 60% complete with the process. It dramatically reduces the number of

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
The other piece of information that wasn’t apparent to me on casual inspection is there’s a minimum sub count if you want to use their Cloud features. My take is you need to come at it from the perspective that all your subs are going to get the Calix router, rather than viewing it as an

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
I buy direct. I think that is how they do it with everyone. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 22, 2018, at 6:20 PM, David Coudron > wrote: > > Where do you purchase the Calix equipment from? Our typical sources don’t > seem to carry them (Streakwave, Winncom, ISPSupplies, Linktechs, etc. Are

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-22 Thread David Coudron
Where do you purchase the Calix equipment from? Our typical sources don’t seem to carry them (Streakwave, Winncom, ISPSupplies, Linktechs, etc. Are you purchasing direct from Calix? Regards, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:34 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT laminate counter tops

2018-12-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
You can get slabs of Corian and it’s wonderful stuff. But probably too pricey and you’re too far along with the laminate approach. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 6:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT laminate counter tops

Re: [AFMUG] OT laminate counter tops

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
I have been using a router, but I want the top to overhang the side. So the side strip needs to be straight if I glue it on after the top. I could do the edge first, trim it and then do the top but too impatient to wait for the glue to dry. I would probably do it that way i was starting over

Re: [AFMUG] OT laminate counter tops

2018-12-22 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Assuming you already have the laminate... To trim to the edge you need a router and a flush trim router bit. You then apply the laminate with a bit of overhang and trim it flush with the router. They make smaller than normal routers for this they specifically call laminate trimmers. But I've

[AFMUG] OT laminate counter tops

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Putting some laminate on my splicing trailer surfaces today. This is way outside my core competencies. I have been saving the factory edge of the laminate to make myself some edge banding. But I am out of factory edges and do not know how to cut a perfect edge strip. I can cut it straight

Re: [AFMUG] OT new web site

2018-12-22 Thread chuck
My wife barely tolerates my Gold Rush addiction. From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 3:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new web site Love the quote: “Lessons cost money, good ones cost lots.” (Tony Beets) On Fri, Dec 21, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] OT new web site

2018-12-22 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Love the quote: “Lessons cost money, good ones cost lots.” (Tony Beets) On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:30 PM wrote: > I think I have my new construction web site done. If you feel like it > please look it over and give me feedback. I think it is done... > >

Re: [AFMUG] support for customer IoT

2018-12-22 Thread John Osmon
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 07:18:43PM -0500, Adam Moffett wrote: > In all seriousness, this would be a billion dollar idea if people > who need it were willing to pay for it. Yep. When you charge for phone service, anything less than perfect becomes a point where the customer will scream and yell.

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-22 Thread Chris Herrington
I would like to know more about the Miami regulation? Chris Herrington, FCC Lic. # PG-11-19440 Cell 714-309-8714 ch...@fsc.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 9:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Duct can be had for 35 cents / foot or less. I was getting it for 28 cents until the extrusion company went BK. You can cut and splice duct when going over and under obstacles. If doing direct burial you would be doing giant figure 8s or cutting and splicing every time you hit a culvert or

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Chris Fabien
I know we've had this discussion before we don't have gophers in Michigan. Only damage we have had on direct bury was due to gas company. Yeah it was a pain to fix, about 8 hours of downtime. But the cost savings is worth it to me for my network. We are doing FTTH so we do have more handholes

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Customer was told by Best Buy that he should get an AC3200 router to watch 4K UHD TV. Cuz you need 3.2 Gbps WiFi to stream 25 Mbps? Even if you watch 4 streams, and dividing the WiFi advertised speed by 2, that's 1600 Mbps to carry 100 Mbps. So maybe the support guy was trying to tell the

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
The worst part of direct burial is gopher damage. And they will eat it up on 100 places but they may not fail until there is some nearby vibration. They seem to have the ability to eat up the cable but leave the strands intact or just break one or two of them. Yes, you first have to find

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Colin Stanners
We also usually install a second duct on all major routes. Chuck, with your long career, I assume that you've had a few cases where direct burial took a long time/difficulties to fix? Now working in the long-distance/underground industry, doing all the planning and permitting, I've seen our guys

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
I never do direct burial any more. Not even on drops. Generally I install an extra duct, I like duralines future path products if I can justify the expense. I need to learn how to install microduct into regular duct. I am sure I can pull it but I would like to figure out how to blow it.

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Colin Stanners
I try hard to steer clear of direct-burying cable, which is much easier to damage and extremely time-consuming to repair, unless it's a non-crucial line (e.g. standard residential customer, although those we currently put in conduit as well, to keep future risk and repair costs low). If this

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-22 Thread Robert
My first call would be to the CEO of said contracted phone answerers... Min would be a discount on service equal to the monthly of said customer.. On 12/21/18 10:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Our contracted phone answerers literally just told one of our customers they needed a higher speed

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep strand count is cheap. No reason to scrimp. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 22, 2018, at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I could do it for myself for perhaps $100k but I have all the equipment. I > would charge $5/ft for plowing plus $1/ft for materials. So Colin is right in > the mark. >

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
I could do it for myself for perhaps $100k but I have all the equipment. I would charge $5/ft for plowing plus $1/ft for materials. So Colin is right in the mark. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 22, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: > > Depending on many variables, especially if you can

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-22 Thread Chuck McCown
I have signed many NDAs. No problems. I never worry about them. You can still talk about the situation. Just don’t reveal info that you received from the other party that is: 1) new to you 2) not found via other means Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2018, at 9:45 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
My experience nitrites Ken's. On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 12:52 AM Steve Jones wrote: > We have an attorney that's pretty versatile. But we are a small town. What > type attorney is needed here, is this basic law or would we need to look at > some special communications 300 dollar a minute slick suit

[AFMUG] OT - IoT toaster oven

2018-12-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
It has a camera and an app, so you (and your friends) can watch your food cook. And popcorn pop. Positive review from a self-professed IoT Luddite. Can't buy it yet though. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/how-a-toaster-oven-helped-me-learn-t

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Chris Fabien
Steve in our area we could do that "on the cheap" with 12 or 24 count cable direct buried for around 100k. There are so many variables though. You really need someone who has done work in that area and is familiar with permitting costs and requirements. I'd it's so rural that you can plow the bulk

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-22 Thread Colin Stanners
Depending on many variables, especially if you can plow some non-crossing lengths to save money, this will cost 1/4 to 1/3 million - the customer has the budget? >From those questions it sounds like your fist fiber build, so my recommendation would be to have an experienced contractor do the