Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Robert
That was fascinating! On 12/14/20 7:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: My hero was Bob Widlar, who retired to Puerto Vallarta at age 33.  I seem to remember companies like National Semiconductor would pay him as a consultant for occasional ideas scribbled on bar napkins.

[AFMUG] site power calculator

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Looking for something like an excel spreadsheet where I can add equipment types, voltage and wattage. Then select from that list in a dropdown the different devices and quantities and have it spit out the wattage demand I can do it manually for sure and just sum the column, but is like to have

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
I was reading an article once on satanism. The author was saying that many satanists dont subscribe to evil. basically they believe in god, heaven all that. Lucifer was this crazy funtime uncle, always having a good time, and God was an old get off my lawn curmudgeon. So Lucifer took his sweet

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Don't give him any ideas... On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:05 PM James Howard wrote: > I had to re-read this. First glance I thought you said you were a > Satanist………. Guess I need to go to bed earlier…… > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Probably better if we just do it house by house. Except utah of course, chuck can pick where his homestead sits and he can have right of travel to free america On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:12 PM James Howard wrote: > My votes is that it all gets split up by individual county based on voting >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Nah, arkansas winters are warm if you're in your basement house with your wood burning stove under 3 feet of snow. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:08 PM Craig House wrote: > As far as winter. Arkansas isn’t warm enough. As far as hurricanes, I’ve > rode out 3 days of a cat5 when it hit St Thomas a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread James Howard
My votes is that it all gets split up by individual county based on voting result maps. We could have Red vs Blue! (I think Steve would be Sarge) Wait a minute……. Ugh… We would need to have right of secession! My property is less than ½ mile from the county line and I don’t want to be the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Like the gop electors trying to vote today, do you really put it past them to hold an inauguration in Florida? So I cant actually say no to that On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:06 PM James Howard wrote: > Right after Trump is inaugurated? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Craig House
As far as winter. Arkansas isn’t warm enough. As far as hurricanes, I’ve rode out 3 days of a cat5 when it hit St Thomas a few years back. Hurricane Maria. Wasn’t any worse than a MO tornado just lasted longer.I hate winter more than you I guess Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread James Howard
Right after Trump is inaugurated? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 8:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share I figure around Jan 22 lent begins. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread James Howard
I had to re-read this. First glance I thought you said you were a Satanist.. Guess I need to go to bed earlier.. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 8:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Wow I wonder if Orion allowed disabling the quality improvement. I always disable it on anything that let's me. I'm not quite sure why fire eye still is leading this charge, it's kind of like letting a leper check your prostate

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
I hate winter so I'm gonna go to arkansas somewhere near the spring river in timber where I can build a cabin with a basement house. I'll salt pack trout and venison. Enough firewood to sleep through the winter. I'll spend my summer on the bank catching trout and shooting floaters with a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
My hero was Bob Widlar, who retired to Puerto Vallarta at age 33. I seem to remember companies like National Semiconductor would pay him as a consultant for occasional ideas scribbled on bar napkins. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Widlar From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Craig House
I might get bored too but I'd sure enjoy the getting there part. I'm a scuba diver. I could spend the rest of my days hopping from place to place just hiring out as a dive master until I get bored with one place and move on to another. From: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Been studying Spanish for 45 years. Most progress I ever made was a two week immersion course in Costa Rica. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Craig House wrote: > >  > Humidity who cares. I live in Missouri where we get the same humidity but > without a beach. Never

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
It’s all bluster. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: > >  > I don't think the gun nuts and militiamen stand a chance against the national > guard if they wanna rebel and spill blood over trump losing the election fair > and square. > >> On Mon, Dec 14,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Yeah, I got to that point and quickly got bored. So I started micro trenching for Google Fiber. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote: > >  > I used to be an optimist. Now I'm a realist. Just glad I'm close to > retirement. If I can still stand to for

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Larry Ellison just announced he is moving to Hawaii. It helps if you own an entire island. I wonder if hot much younger girlfriend is going with him. From: AF On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 9:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Craig House
Humidity who cares. I live in Missouri where we get the same humidity but without a beach. Never been to Panama but I've been to Guatemala, Belize, Mexico (mostly the Yucatan area), most of the Caribbean islands, and I love the islands but I've been taking Spanish lessons trying to get fluent.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Darin Steffl
I don't think the gun nuts and militiamen stand a chance against the national guard if they wanna rebel and spill blood over trump losing the election fair and square. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 8:33 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Apathy only works when stupidity isnt fed, scotus needs to shut off the >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am more of a desert and mountain rat... don't like beaches other than eye candy but wife has a deadly left. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 8:01 PM Craig House wrote: > Too far from a beach. NO 1 requirement beach Mexican beaches come with > margaritas so NO2 is covered > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Our neighbor Larry Brent moved to Panama three years ago. He has a real nice place by a beach...he is a ladies man so he is having a great time. He had to adjust from El Paso Spanglish to Panamanian style. He rents his house in case he decides to come back but loves the weather, his bike rides

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
People vest too much emotional energy in the President, ignoring Congress which is the one that should be doing the heavy lifting and has become a waste of oxygen. Our legislative branch is totally useless except as a source of partisan division. It will be interesting to see if the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Craig House
Too far from a beach. NO 1 requirement beach Mexican beaches come with margaritas so NO2 is covered From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 8:57:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share San Miguel Allende On Mon, Dec

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
San Miguel Allende On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 7:55 PM Craig House wrote: > I used to be an optimist. Now I'm a realist. Just glad I'm close to > retirement. If I can still stand to for another 5 years, I'll continue to > work. If not, I'll find a beach in Mexico or Belize or some other laid >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Craig House
I used to be an optimist. Now I'm a realist. Just glad I'm close to retirement. If I can still stand to for another 5 years, I'll continue to work. If not, I'll find a beach in Mexico or Belize or some other laid back central American country that welcomes expats and spend the rest of my days

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I am over it. I am an optimist and it is all good. I love America and really all the other nations I have visited. However they eat far too much meat in the Balkins. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at 7:36 PM, Craig House wrote: > > If I want to witness Americans bickering with

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Tha6s fine, but jaime's teams gotta take utah, they're weird On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 8:37 PM Craig House wrote: > If I want to witness Americans bickering with other Americans I can look > at any Covid post or local tv channel post or any anti vaxer post or any > political post and see a bunch of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Craig House
If I want to witness Americans bickering with other Americans I can look at any Covid post or local tv channel post or any anti vaxer post or any political post and see a bunch of snowflake crybabies from both sides trashing each other. I’m pretty tired of it from both sides. Too me it seems

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
I figure around Jan 22 lent begins. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 8:24 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > There was a period of Lent that lasted for more than 3 years. But I think > we are mostly behaving ourselves ( all but Steve). Like to continue > without restrictions if we can. We can always

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Apathy only works when stupidity isnt fed, scotus needs to shut off the feedmill. It no secret I dabble in right wing extremism, even though I'm a statist. What people in those circles talk about scares me, and I like violence On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 8:27 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > I think you

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think you underestimate the apathy of most Americans On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 4:55 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Scotus is unique in that they arent elected, they ha e a wide berth of > discretion, they are the literal last line prior to violent engagement. So, > say the feds want to add a tea tax on

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
There was a period of Lent that lasted for more than 3 years. But I think we are mostly behaving ourselves ( all but Steve). Like to continue without restrictions if we can. We can always invoke Lent again but I am hoping it will not be needed. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
No, jaime's giving me shit cause I gave him 4 years of shit when lent wasnt enforced. This is mostly 2 kids shooting spitballs across the room. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 8:17 PM Craig House wrote: > I thought There used to be a policy against any political posts in this > email group. I miss

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Craig House
I thought There used to be a policy against any political posts in this email group. I miss the days this list was useful for problems with equipment and networks. These days 95% of emails I delete before I even look at the content. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at 20:08, Adam

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Adam Moffett
My brothers are in the Trump camp.  They thought he was a liar and an asshole, but voted for him anyway because they've bought into the "Democrats are communists" story.  They're not crying as such, but they are experiencing an undue amount of anger.  It's not actually funny to poke at them.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
I love the hypocritical bigotry of the left. Nothing better than to laugh at their true self On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 7:36 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 6:29 PM Bill Prince wrote: > >> But can you wash the orange out? >> >> >> bp >> >> >> On 12/14/2020 5:24 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Bill Prince
But can you wash the orange out? bp On 12/14/2020 5:24 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Ha! -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] OT: Too funny not to share

2020-12-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha! -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Pound of flesh also comes out of that story. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
That play is where the term originates. Main character. Jewish money lender. His name is Shylock. Very good story, Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > I cant read anything with the word shylock in it, thats an offensive term > >> On Mon, Dec 14,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Scotus is unique in that they arent elected, they ha e a wide berth of discretion, they are the literal last line prior to violent engagement. So, say the feds want to add a tea tax on Massachusetts. Massachusetts says hey, I'm harmed by this. Without a hearing the court says, nope, no merit.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Jason McKemie
Exactly this. You're never going to convince someone who believes Trump's ramblings about conspiracies against him of anything to the contrary. One of the few things he hasn't lied about was his statement that he could shoot someone in a crowded street and not lose any votes. On Mon, Dec 14,

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

2020-12-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Reminds me of the Paul Simon song. When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school It’s a wonder I can think at all And though my lack of education hasn’t hurt me none I can read the writing on the wall Or remember Father Guido Sarducci on SNL with his idea for Five Minute

Re: [AFMUG] RDOF challenges at this point?

2020-12-14 Thread Darin Steffl
Nope. That was due by April 10. You needed to provide 25/3 with voice and file both in Form 477. If you didn't, you were considered unserved and RDOF funds were available. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 4:01 PM Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > So if RDOF funds were awarded to competitors in areas you already

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
I cant read anything with the word shylock in it, thats an offensive term On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I would agree, it would have perhaps shut some up, satisfied a few > others. The outcome would have been the same so why go through the > motions. > > Kinda

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
you go through the motions so people dont go to war with each other. There is precedent in that in the existence of any court, kind of its purpose. Article 3 state controversy between states, it doesnt dictate a statute must be in effect. Like I keep saying, im good either way. I have the tools I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Carl Peterson
I'm not exactly clear as to the train of thought, or even what case/issue the SC should hear out. The "case" argued in public is nothing like anything presented in any court. It isn't like Trump's lawyers weren't given an opportunity. Q. Are you alleging fraud? A. No. Well OK then. You

[AFMUG] RDOF challenges at this point?

2020-12-14 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
So if RDOF funds were awarded to competitors in areas you already have extensive coverage and customers, is there a path forward to challenge that award? -Peter -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Adam Moffett
So Chuck was the shooter? On 12/14/2020 4:53 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Just because you didn't understand the issue doesn't prove that you weren't on the grassy knoll with Ken and Bill... we've clearly established that you were alive at the time, and therefore could have been. On Mon, Dec

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Just because you didn't understand the issue doesn't prove that you weren't on the grassy knoll with Ken and Bill... we've clearly established that you were alive at the time, and therefore could have been. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I remember all the grups

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I would agree, it would have perhaps shut some up, satisfied a few others. The outcome would have been the same so why go through the motions. Kinda like forcing a team to run a play rather than take a knee. Steve I would recommend a reading of the merchant of Venice... Then answer

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Adam Moffett
If I'm following Steve's train of thought: he's saying giving the issue a day in court might convince some people that justice was done more effectively than simply dismissing the case.  An independent judiciary shouldn't have to consider political angles like that.  The cases are being

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
RF, smith chart, slot line stuff was my favorite stuff in College. But I think I was the only one in my class that felt that way. I actually own a few slot lines. Not sure why I don’t put them on ebay. I even have a waveguide slot line. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

2020-12-14 Thread Cameron Crum
The most important and useful stuff I learned was not in school, that is for sure. Lot's of theory and math to get a degree and get your foot in the door, but I think most of what I use or have used in my career I learned on the job or from a mentor. For example, I can guarantee nobody in the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I remember all the grups being upset about Kennedy, but I didn’t understand the issue. From: James Howard Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:35 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots Well…… that is a lifelong issue for some people.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Funny, the problem returns given enough time. From: James Howard Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:35 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots Well…… that is a lifelong issue for some people. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Texas cannot say how they are being damaged by Pennsylvania. If you cannot identify how your neighbor is harming you, you have no standing. Irrespective of jurisdiction. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread James Howard
Well…… that is a lifelong issue for some people. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 3:15 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots I was still probably crapping in my pants back then. From: Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
merit would be decided in court " In my view, we do not have discretion to deny the filing of a bill of complaint in a case that falls within our original jurisdiction." https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/150orig_3e04.pdf (alitos reference dissent) 155, ORIG. TEXAS V. PENNSYLVANIA,

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
My EE program expired before I finished it. I didn’t realize I had to finish within 7 years from starting. I paused school to follow a high tech startup and when I went back to finish some general ed and a few other things they gave me the bad news. So I got into a MBA program that was

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Bill Prince
I disagree with that. The case had no merit and they said so. SCOTUS refuses to hear cases all the time, especially if they think the plaintiff has no standing. They said so, and that's it. bp On 12/14/2020 1:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
2 thought that, and 3 have a violent media to contend with... cowardice On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > To get a case before SCOTUS you have to file a writ of certiorari. > Then if you can get 4 justices to agree to hear the case they “grant > cert”. > I hear it is

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
ha, chuck said pussies On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:11 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Sprint once owed our company $3M. Highly technical interstate access rate > element issues. Sprint simply quit paying access charges. The judge said > “I think someone owes someone else some money but that is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I was still probably crapping in my pants back then. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 1:05 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots I'm close to the same age as Ken, and I saw him on the garssy knoll. bp On 12/14/2020 12:01 PM, Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

2020-12-14 Thread Cameron Crum
It's just a test. You still can if you want. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:12 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I had the chance to join the EIT program. I have always regretted not > doing it. > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 9:48 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Robert Andrews
I don't believe there is a statute of limitations on murder in TX, so no. On 12/14/2020 12:59 PM, James Howard wrote: Wait! You saw Ken standing next to Bill? Were you there too? *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Robert Andrews *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 2:41 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
holy fuck, thats scorched earth response. That almost seems like a response that doesnt need to be made public knowlege. Collection, monitoring and central management will be down. Chaos and confusion as new processes are onboarded. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:34 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > Read

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I had the chance to join the EIT program. I have always regretted not doing it. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 9:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer I'm a(n) EE but not a PE so can't stamp any docs or anything. It all

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Sprint once owed our company $3M. Highly technical interstate access rate element issues. Sprint simply quit paying access charges. The judge said “I think someone owes someone else some money but that is about all I can understand about this case”. After I left the company they settled

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
To get a case before SCOTUS you have to file a writ of certiorari. Then if you can get 4 justices to agree to hear the case they “grant cert”. I hear it is 5 if it is a dispute between the states. They can decide if it is a waste of their time or not. Sounds like all of them thought this

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread James Howard
Wait! You saw Ken standing next to Bill? Were you there too? From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:41 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots Standing next to you? On 12/14/2020 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > I'm close to the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Robert Andrews
Standing next to you? On 12/14/2020 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I'm close to the same age as Ken, and I saw him on the garssy knoll. bp On 12/14/2020 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: One case is actually still in court. In one case in Pennsylvania they were granted a court order saying

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
RIP Bill On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 2:30 PM James Howard wrote: > But did Ken see you on the grassy knoll? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Bill Prince > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 2:06 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots > > > > I'm close to

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Lol, doublecheck for what though? So now fireye says it was solar wind hacking that breached them https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/12/14/fireeye-solarwinds-hack-breach-cybersecurity-attack/6538645002/ Granted I doubt USA today "journalists" know much about what they're writing about.

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Robert Andrews
Read through some of this and it will confirm how big a deal it is. And if a service you were wondering about isn't working, there is a decent chance that this is why... https://cyber.dhs.gov/ed/21-01/ On 12/14/2020 11:52 AM, Ryan Ray wrote: This is a big deal. Solarwinds Orion is a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread James Howard
But did Ken see you on the grassy knoll? From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:06 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots I'm close to the same age as Ken, and I saw him on the garssy knoll. bp On 12/14/2020 12:01 PM, Adam

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Mathew Howard
hmm... are you Ted Cruz' father? On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:06 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I'm close to the same age as Ken, and I saw him on the garssy knoll. > > > bp > > > On 12/14/2020 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > One case is actually still in court. > > In one case in Pennsylvania they

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Ryan Ray
Lots of stuff runs under Orion. Application Centric Monitor (ACM) Database Performance Analyzer Integration Module (DPAIM) Enterprise Operations Console (EOC) High Availability (HA) IP Address Manager (IPAM) Log Analyzer (LA) Network Automation Manager (NAM) Network Configuration Manager

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Bill Prince
I'm close to the same age as Ken, and I saw him on the garssy knoll. bp On 12/14/2020 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: One case is actually still in court. In one case in Pennsylvania they were granted a court order saying

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
thats a lie, ken is not ted cruz father or is he? On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:02 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > One case is actually still in court. > > In one case in Pennsylvania they were granted a court order saying they > had to allow observers closer than 6 feet, but they lost that that one

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
fireye offering auditing services? On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:01 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > Solarwinds says 18,000 customers got the malware. Basically whoever > orchestrated this hack now has intimate details of all 18,000 of those > customers' networks. They better make sure the rest of their

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Their sales folks are definitely aggressive. At least its currently only limited (known) to two Orion platforms. Im really concerned about this: "...and intended to be a narrow, extremely targeted, and manually executed attack..." what does manually executed mean? Like some dude stuck a USB key

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Adam Moffett
One case is actually still in court. In one case in Pennsylvania they were granted a court order saying they had to allow observers closer than 6 feet, but they lost that that one on appeal. Roughly 50 other cases were dismissed.  Some were due to lack of standing, some because the court

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Ryan Ray
Solarwinds says 18,000 customers got the malware. Basically whoever orchestrated this hack now has intimate details of all 18,000 of those customers' networks. They better make sure the rest of their network is up to snuff because it will make it a lot easier for them to be attacked going into the

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Ryan Ray
This is a big deal. Solarwinds Orion is a product used in many of the Top 100 companies in the world. Including tons of healthcare. I dislike Solarwinds for many reasons and refused to use them even before this hack. Just add another reason to the list. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:49 AM Steve

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Chuck Macenski
Didn't they go to court in the states and lose? On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:45 PM Steve Jones wrote: > " I think the argument your making (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that > they won't feel like they really lost unless they get to make their > arguments in a courtroom and THEN lose. I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Fireye

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
So Im reading this now that Solar Winds updates have been delivering payloads since june or july. Solar winds having crazy levels of access to interior infrastructures. Im not sure what this is saying, it sounds like what fireye isnt saying outwardly is their toolset was stolen prior to that and

Re: [AFMUG] AF Digest, Vol 31, Issue 375

2020-12-14 Thread jerry bickle
I don’t really need all the old issues of this digest. Jerry Bickle President RF Design Services, LLC Cell: 405.650.3366 Fax: 405.330.1310 Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com From: AF on behalf of

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

2020-12-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I think Cambium's goal was probably to just drag it out long enough that the product wasn't really needed anymore. I suspect that at this point, the majority of the 802.11N based networks that are going to be converted to ePMP already have been, and Elevate never supported the AC gear anyway

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bad data, or people not doing their jobs.

2020-12-14 Thread Nate Burke
Somewhere along the line, the mindset shifted where time=value from physical product=value.  So if you don't know how to do something, you don't do it, and have someone that already knows how to do it, do it.  If you are spending time trying to solve a problem, that's bad.  So the generation

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
" I think the argument your making (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that they won't feel like they really lost unless they get to make their arguments in a courtroom and THEN lose. I'm saying they'll feel like they didn't really lose no matter what," Yes. but its separating the Tim McVeighs from

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Lewis Bergman
My sister is one of those "The election was stolen" types. I didn't vote for Biden/Harris but I am not a trump nut either. I asked her what she based her opinion on, and I heard a lot of very passionate and general things that were not facts, based on facts, nor factual in the common meaning of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Adam Moffett
This case was dismissed for lack of standing.  Other cases were dismissed for a variety of reasons including the evidence being specious or deficient.  That's losing.  All of that is losing.  If it was Steve Jones vs McCown Tech and it was dismissed then you'd say you lost.  There'd be no

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Adam Moffett
Alito and Thomas think that since there's is the only jurisdiction on such a matter that they have a responsibility to hear the case no matter how stupid it is.  They can make that argument and support it, but it's obviously a minority opinion. On 12/14/2020 12:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Alito disagrees with you and cites the case law. Without stating it, he got his tone through on the likely outcome. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 11:35 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > Declining to hear the case because, in the opinion of this court, Texas > does not have standing, is case law. The court

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Robert
  THIS    (those are down arrows)...   Because even states should be discouraged from filing bad cases to SCOTUS.. On 12/14/20 9:34 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Declining to hear the case because, in the opinion of this court, Texas does not have standing, is case law.  The court can't

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Jones
Thats the issue, they havent "lost in court" they never went to court. The court responsible for hearing it. No one is saying hear every case, but cases of national importance and with immense national consequence need not ever be punted. The vast majority of pro 2A people understand the 2a isnt

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

2020-12-14 Thread Carl Peterson
Declining to hear the case because, in the opinion of this court, Texas does not have standing, is case law. The court can't decide to hear the case in order to decide that they shouldn't have decided to hear the case. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:56 AM Steve Jones wrote: > That's exactly why

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