Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON

2015-02-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Google Shopping has it at $2,700. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 9:01:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON How many

Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON

2015-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Any other price comparisons? How much for the Zhone? Calix? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.netmailto:af...@ics-il.net Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date:

[AFMUG] Looking for some FSK900 APs

2015-02-09 Thread brandon
If anyone has any old 900 mhz canopy APs sitting around collecting dust I need to buy a few. I am looking for 4 of them right now and another 4 in a month or so. Please email me off list bran...@gogebicrange.net if you have some you want to sell. Connectorized or boards out of the old integrated

Re: [AFMUG] local news article.....hmmmmmm!!!!

2015-02-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Well if you invent fixable problems then you can be really good at what you do. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] local news article.hmm And by simply changing the definition of what Broadband means the FCC and our

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum

2015-02-09 Thread TJ Trout
They change to cat 5 on the outside of the house On Feb 9, 2015 7:37 AM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: How do you protect the fiber from the customer in the house as far as keeping them from sullying up the glass connecting and disconnecting it? Do you find as high an incidence

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

2015-02-09 Thread Paul McCall
Thanks for the financial prophecy Chuck! :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for some FSK900 APs

2015-02-09 Thread brandon
Thanks everyone. Obviously there is a surplus of this stuff! Looks like I have found what I am looking for. Brandon From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of bran...@gogebicrange.net Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 10:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for some

Re: [AFMUG] local news article.....hmmmmmm!!!!

2015-02-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
So while the FCC is raising the bar to cover 4K video streaming (I’m guessing most people with advanced TVs already have advanced broadband), I see this article about the Kansas City “fiberhoods” that aren’t getting Google fiber because of (a) affordability, (b) renters can’t give OK to

Re: [AFMUG] Recommended OMNI for a 58430 AP

2015-02-09 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
The KP omni has electronic downtilt. You would probably be better off ordering a Larsen omni from Last Mile Gear. If it was me, I would just throw a 450 AP on the KP omni, use up 430 SMs on the longer range customers that are going to get MIMO-A anyway, keep the FSK up there for those

Re: [AFMUG] local news article.....hmmmmmm!!!!

2015-02-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sorry, here’s the link: http://www.fastcompany.com/3036659/elasticity/lessons-from-googles-first-rollout-of-google-fiber From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 10:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] local news article.hmm So while the FCC is raising the bar to

Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread chuck
But Mikrotik could totally own the cheap and dirty GPON space if they did do such a thing. From: Jason Pond Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 9:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP Chuck is correct. they are not the same size. There are no SFP's for GPON that work in any

Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread Chuck Hogg
I think I know what Gino is asking... There are regular SFP's that have GPON built into it that can be plugged into a switch. It can turn any standard SFP port into a GPON port on the ONU side, not OLT. Here's a video example... http://www.finisar.com/products/optical-modules/pon/FTGN2117P2xUN

Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
OLT modules are available on the net.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Monday, February 9,

Re: [AFMUG] Recommended OMNI for a 58430 AP

2015-02-09 Thread Sam Lambie
Since we have about 25 users total out there, I am going to stick with the plan of an omni for now. The 5.7 430 is re-purposed from another site, so free is a good thing. I have a KPP 13 dbi Omni on the way and will slap that in and see what I can get. If I can move enough of the higher bandwidth

Re: [AFMUG] local news article.....hmmmmmm!!!!

2015-02-09 Thread Mark Radabaugh
And by simply changing the definition of what Broadband means the FCC and our government now has a 'crisis' that they can 'fix'. It's amazing the amount of power 3 unelected people have to disrupt the business models of thousands (or millions) of people. Mark On 2/7/15 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay

[AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone tried this? Is it doable? Thinking OLT into SW SFP ports Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

2015-02-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
nice trend LOL Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Guess it works! *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2015 9:16 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON

2015-02-09 Thread Gerard Dupont III
~4000 for 8 port OLT from Dasan which is Gpon(2.5g down) and not GEpon (1g down). Gerard On Monday, February 9, 2015, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Any other price comparisons? How much for the Zhone? Calix? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for some FSK900 APs

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
You should be able to find all FSK easily and very cheap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Thanks everyone. Obviously there is a surplus of this stuff! Looks like I

Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON

2015-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Based on your experience with Dasan, ill be looking for other alternatives… do you have another option? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Gerard Dupont ger...@shelbybb.commailto:ger...@shelbybb.com Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Whats the physical difference? Its seems like a normal sfp http://www.ad-net.com.tw/index.php?id=809 Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread Jon Auer
Erm, Topic oops. OMCI is a GPON thing, not, AFAIK, a GEPON thing. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Optics designed for use with OLTs assume that the OLT will handle OMCI which is why they won't work with Mikrotik/whatever. Something like

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum

2015-02-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Sterling, Are you paying 12% interest to investors on a 5 year note for these builds? Where are you finding these investors to fund the neighborhood builds? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread That One Guy
I have to assume maintenance on batteries will not be done since i have to fight tooth an nail to get time alloted for maintenance on sites On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:22 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Are you positive agm outlasts flooded cell's, if proper maintenance is done? On Mon, Feb

Re: [AFMUG] OT: hair salons

2015-02-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
No, but I remember the song from Grease. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TOxhzAm7fY From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: hair salons any of your old ladies or wives hair stylists, cosmetologists, or whatever they call themselves?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: hair salons

2015-02-09 Thread That One Guy
Yeah fuck you man :-) , that song went though my head over and over when we signed the $16k commitment for that. I used to think that was a fun goofy song til I had to pay for it. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: No, but I remember the song from Grease.

[AFMUG] OT: hair salons

2015-02-09 Thread That One Guy
any of your old ladies or wives hair stylists, cosmetologists, or whatever they call themselves? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum

2015-02-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
he has i believe two companies who do fiber work as silent partners in his business. they are a profit share - Original Message - From: Bill Prince To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum I'm sure he will

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Jeremy
In a car battery type form-factor, you can't beat Sam's club. The 'Energizer' AGM are actually rebranded Johnson Controls batteries (the maker of Optima). I haven't seen an equal battery of that size anywhere for the prices that they sell them for. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:27 PM, That One Guy

Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread Jon Auer
Also, OLT vs ONU. The link I included was for a ONT SFP. OLTs need similar OMCI functionality. This is why I shouldn't post to lists while getting caught up on Blacklist. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Erm, Topic oops. OMCI is a GPON thing, not, AFAIK, a GEPON

Re: [AFMUG] OT: hair salons

2015-02-09 Thread That One Guy
no lost love man. illinois... its an expensive place to do anything. Our new governor is planning on taxing haircutas as a backdoor to getting the service tax in... love our politics On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Yeah, sorry, that was a cheap shot. My

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum

2015-02-09 Thread That One Guy
How do you protect the fiber from the customer in the house as far as keeping them from sullying up the glass connecting and disconnecting it? Do you find as high an incidence of cut fiber in the home as with Ethernet runs or do customers seem to be more wary of the fiber run? On Fri, Feb 6, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] local news article.....hmmmmmm!!!!

2015-02-09 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Always the best journalism in depth journalism from the AP Given they said A new report by the Federal Communications Commission it's almost certain they are talking about the 2015 Broadband Progress Report and Notice of Inquiry on Immediate Action to Accelerate Deployment. Mark On

Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread Jason Pond
Chuck is correct. they are not the same size. There are no SFP's for GPON that work in any Mikrotik units. Sincerely, Jason Pond Grizzly Internet, Inc On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:40 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Does it even fit physically? *From:* Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

2015-02-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Guess it works! From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

[AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

2015-02-09 Thread Chuck McCown
PDM Financials.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT - Can't update...help!

2015-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Put the upgrsde preference to p10 first Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.commailto:andr...@silowireless.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date:

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for some FSK900 APs

2015-02-09 Thread joseph marsh
I may be nterested in some and looking for a ap as well Hit me off list On Feb 9, 2015 11:17 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I have a buttload of subscriber units if anyone needs some with and/or without antennas. (yes, buttload) *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
If the 31 in the model number means Group 31 then it would be around 125 ah. We've been using the Exide RF-31D batteries for about 3 years without any issue. They are an AGM Battery, Judging only by Weight, I think they're equivalent to a 120AH-150AH Battery. You can get them with Prime

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Jason McKemie
Big R carries Deka AGM batteries, if you have one available locally. On Monday, February 9, 2015, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: I know this horse is about as abused as a woman that doesnt listen well, but Im looking for a brand/model number of battery that would be god for

[AFMUG] Cool device - a little OT, but WOW!

2015-02-09 Thread Butch Evans
http://cicret.com/wordpress/ This looks like a pretty cool device. Expected Q4 2015 for consumers. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Surely Ubnt and Cambium, among many others, saw that as a possible usable band before it was actually legal to operate in. They have two AF5 units already - an upper band for other countries I assume and a mid range one that doesn't seem to be any different in the US (unless your DFS shots are

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Exactly my point - there had to be some talk before they made it available. I'd be depressed if the US government operated faster than Ubnt. The new af5x does 5150 to 5850. I would imagine it would make sense to simply do a v2 AF5-US or something. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
IIRC it was some APC replacement batteries. On 02/09/2015 12:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What batteries have you specifically ordered? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Bruce Robertson br...@pooh.com

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Mathew Howard
If those Exide AGM batteries from Amazon are around 125AH, that puts them at pretty much the same price as SLA per amp hour... maybe even a bit cheaper. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Yeah, you will get more capacity, but at a shorter life cycle.

Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON

2015-02-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
So one manufacturers GPON device does not cross compatible with another manufacturers? Your stuck with them once you deploy it? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:13

Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON

2015-02-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Different technologies. GEPON and GPON are as indifferent as 450 and Telrad. The only thing really in common is multi-point and the medium. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Ty Featherling
Yeah our 14 mile link was almost too crowded in 5.7 and DFS was way under power. We eeked by though with 200FDX. I'm thinking of swapping that link out for an Airfiber X5 link. I need to run the numbers to see what I could get there first though. -Ty On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jerry

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
I don't know how long the products were in development before the proposal to open the lower band was finalized. Maybe UBNT will comment on this? Ben? You alive? Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com www.spitwspots.com On 2/9/2015 11:02 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Surely Ubnt and

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Meant to the thread, not Bruce. When shopping batteries, also check expected life, warrantied life, etc. telecom grade batteries last longer. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bruce Robertson br...@pooh.com

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
You could look for AGM deep cycle batteries at those local stores. I couldn't tell you which brands are better, but I think it's my understanding that AGM will last 2-3x longer than normal. I know this horse is about as abused as a woman that doesnt listen well, but Im looking for a

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

2015-02-09 Thread Peter Kranz
Infected with the PJK15.Socom.JK virus. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Erich Kaiser
http://www.zeusbatteryproducts.com/ Never had any issues with them. Usually get 100AH or 90AH, depends on discount available at that time. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:57 AM, That One

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for some FSK900 APs

2015-02-09 Thread Andy Trimmell
I have a buttload of subscriber units if anyone needs some with and/or without antennas. (yes, buttload) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for some FSK900 APs You should

Re: [AFMUG] GEPON OLT SFP

2015-02-09 Thread Jason Pond
According to mikrotik forums the SFP version of the ONT will not work with their devices. With that being said it would be great if they did make them work. Even through indoor ONT's are already inexpensive they just lack the feature sets we are used to. Sincerely, Jason Pond Grizzly Internet,

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum

2015-02-09 Thread That One Guy
I was asking Jason Pond, it sounds like he runs fiber to the inside On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: They change to cat 5 on the outside of the house On Feb 9, 2015 7:37 AM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: How do you protect the fiber from the

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT - Can't update...help!

2015-02-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Note sure about that error message, but if the 430 SMs were on 11.2, did you update them to 12.1 first? From: Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CNUT - Can't update...help! I am trying to update a 430 SM to the latest build…. I

[AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread That One Guy
I know this horse is about as abused as a woman that doesnt listen well, but Im looking for a brand/model number of battery that would be god for sites, primarily in the winter but some heat in the summer that we can replace the APC external packs with. Id like to source them locally like NAPA,

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF

2015-02-09 Thread chuck
Damn North Korea... From: Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 11:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: test PDF Infected with the PJK15.Socom.JK virus. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
AGM is a maint-free battery type. It will last a bit longer given the same wear/tear, and doesn't lose so much efficiency at lower and higher temps. It will cost a bit more than SLA. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com www.spitwspots.com On 2/9/2015 9:02 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

[AFMUG] next article posted

2015-02-09 Thread Rory Conaway
http://www.muniwireless.com/2015/02/09/tales-towers-chapter-53-point-to-point/ Rory Conaway Triad Wireless 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Mathew Howard
I've heard batteries plus will give you a pretty good discount if you setup a business account with them... I think they should have pretty much anything you would want locally. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: You could look for AGM deep cycle batteries

[AFMUG] CNUT - Can't update...help!

2015-02-09 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
I am trying to update a 430 SM to the latest build I keep getting this error: org.apache.commons.net.io.CopyStreamException: IOException caught while copying. (SITE= No Site Name) I have disabled firewalls, tried using HTTPS, using latest CNUT... everything... at my wits end. We had a

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
I just went through this and found all 12v SLA batteries at Batteries Plus. Took the ah/$ and the ones that gave me the most juice per dollar. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 9, 2015 1:02 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yeah, you will get more capacity, but at a shorter life cycle. One of those get the right product for the right application type things. We do like the Exides though. We have quite a few 6v 380ah Exides at sites. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com www.spitwspots.com On 2/9/2015

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I was just looking at some batteries on Amazon Prime the other day. I was wondering if they would truly ship them for free or if it was some kind of error. Free 2 day shipping on a 70lb battery seems too good to be true. You can get them with Prime off of Amazon

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum

2015-02-09 Thread Jason Pond
We are planning on running fiber to inside. We will be using bend insensitive and labeling DO NOT TOUCH. There should be no reason for the customer to touch the fiber. I know Chuck Hogg does it this way also and as far as I know he has not had any problems. Sincerely, Jason Pond Grizzly

[AFMUG] Idea from news

2015-02-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Watching news on drones near planes by airports.Think I have all the parts to make a directional long range drone signal interruptor or to bring down cartel drug laden drones. (Laughs while sipping a cold Tecate) Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Cool device - a little OT, but WOW!

2015-02-09 Thread Jason McKemie
That's an exaggeration on the lumens, but it will take quite a bit bigger device than they are showing in their mockup. On Monday, February 9, 2015, Chris Wright ch...@velociter.net wrote: It won't happen this decade. A 6,000 lumens projector the size of a suitcase can barely display an image

[AFMUG] OT: SWOT

2015-02-09 Thread Randy Cosby
http://www.nbcnews.com/pages/weathermen -- signature imap://dco...@imap.infowest.com:143/fetch%3EUID%3E/Sent%3E33390?part=1.2.2filename=Sunset-on-White-120.png http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/

[AFMUG] Commisioner Pai made the frontpage of DrudgeReport

2015-02-09 Thread Rory Conaway
http://www.drudgereport.com/ Rory

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread That One Guy
We have gotten pretty lucky on our batteries, we average 5-8 years at most sites, we are in central illinois. Last year destroyed a majority of our batteries, and the expanding problem destroyed alot of our APCs, Its time to replace our aged APCs anyway since all we can get are overstoc or used

Re: [AFMUG] OT: hair salons

2015-02-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yeah, sorry, that was a cheap shot. My barber complains the business is flooded with people who never went to school. How much training do you need to work at one of these chains in the strip malls? Trick seems to be working at some froufrou place where you get regular clients who ask for

Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON

2015-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Gpon is 2.5/1.25 Gepon is 1.25/1.25 (ethernet based) AKA EPON I think that GEPOn OLT sfps should be caopatible with mikrotik because they follow Ethernet standards Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Cool device - a little OT, but WOW!

2015-02-09 Thread Butch Evans
On 02/09/2015 01:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: It says their objective with your donation is to develop the prototype within six months... that makes it sound like they don't even have any sort of a prototype. They may be able to make a working prototype, but I'm guessing it will be quite a lot

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
If you need a LOT of batteries, getting a pallet load by truck freight can be cost effective, just be sure to specify a liftgate unless you have a skid loader. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bateries Meant to the thread, not

Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 Band FCC

2015-02-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Closer to 5.8 than 5.1, but there were a bunch of other changes relating to OOBE. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 2:48:57 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Mark Radabaugh
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. I'm thinking you forgot to put a few keys back in that

Re: [AFMUG] Cool device - a little OT, but WOW!

2015-02-09 Thread Butch Evans
On 02/09/2015 01:29 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: I'm not sure they're going to be able to make it that small and still have it project brightly enough to see in daylight. Good concept though. That's what I thought, too. Time will tell, though. One video showed it submerged in water (not while

Re: [AFMUG] Planet GEPON

2015-02-09 Thread Carlos Alcantar
PON can be really tricky in the fact that the vendor you go with your going to be stuck with there OLT / ONT combination. I’ve not seen a successful OLT vendor swap not that it can’t be done. The one thing I can say is that once you get into the mass it’s going to have a tight integration

Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 Band FCC

2015-02-09 Thread Mathew Howard
The theoretical max is 53dBm EIRP, but nothing is actually certified for that high of power because of OOBE, so how high of power you can actually use is very dependent on the specific radio you're using. It is available on PTP650... I think it requires a free key to unlock. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Ha... there aren't too many things that operate slower than the US government, but UBNT just might be one... :P The only reasonable explanation I can see is that the tighter filters are needed to make full duplex work properly, which obviously wouldn't affect the AF5x. however, even if that is

[AFMUG] 5.1 Band FCC

2015-02-09 Thread Rory McCann
I must've been under a rock when this was discussed because I knew absolutely nothing about it. So 5.1GHz is legal for outdoor use in the US? If so, what are the power requirements (ie: is it more aligned with 5.4GHz or 5.7GHz?) Also, is it available for use on deployed PTP650 products?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum

2015-02-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Is sterling doing his builds with sub contractors instead of doing the work himself? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 9, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum

2015-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
I'm sure he will answer, but I think he's hiring contractors where needed, but he's also hands on. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 2/9/2015 6:15 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is sterling doing his builds with sub contractors instead of doing the work himself? Sent from my iPhone Kurt

[AFMUG] OT. Not in front of the telly: Warning over 'listening' TV - BBC News

2015-02-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Really? Whats next? Smart appliances ? Too funny http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-31296188 Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 Band FCC

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Sounds great Jaime! Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com www.spitwspots.com On 2/9/2015 12:30 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: All that matters is under what set of Part 15 rules a manufacturer certified under. You can’t get the higher power U-NII 1 without certifying under the new NPRM

Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 Band FCC

2015-02-09 Thread Jaime Fink
All that matters is under what set of Part 15 rules a manufacturer certified under. You can’t get the higher power U-NII 1 without certifying under the new NPRM issued last May 2014 which have the more restrictive U-NII 3 OOBE limits, otherwise you’re restricted to prior lower U-NII 1 PTMP

Re: [AFMUG] Cool device - a little OT, but WOW!

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
CGI today which means their prototype doesn't work as well or at all. Could be interesting if it actually worked, but I doubt it'll happen 2015. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Butch Evans

[AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Jerry Richardson
11.2 miles 160ASL - 3450ASL 5.7 too crowded DFS under power Not usable for this application. Looking forward to testing it for a shorter link in a less congested area. We should have been on a licensed link a long time ago. At least we are going that way now.

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Sean Heskett
UB4D is what we use at all our solar sites. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:57 AM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: I know this horse is about as abused as a woman that doesnt listen well, but Im looking for a brand/model number of battery that would be god for sites, primarily in the

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Why not try the 5.1 band? Oh wait...this brand new $2k product can't do the best part of the 5 GHz band... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah our 14

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
It was in development before that was opened up... required a hardware change. I would suspect we would see something soon. There's also been talk of getting 4.9 cert on the AF5 and an AFX type product, but I don't know what's come of that yet. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
I have received batteries via Amazon Prime free shipping One order pays for Prime! On 02/09/2015 10:51 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I was just looking at some batteries on Amazon Prime the other day. I was wondering if they would truly ship them for free or if it was some kind of error.

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't remember exactly how the timing worked out, but the AF5 hasn't been out that long... it seems like there must have been at least some talk of 5.1 being opened up before it was released. Even if there is a good technical reason why the filters needed to be that way, it can't be that hard to

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
What batteries have you specifically ordered? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Bruce Robertson br...@pooh.com wrote: I have received batteries via Amazon Prime free shipping One order pays for

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Ben Moore
No match for what I am bringing ;) On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] First attempt with AF5 a bust

2015-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
A crane and/or steam roller, probably. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No match for what I am bringing ;) On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Cool device - a little OT, but WOW!

2015-02-09 Thread Chris Wright
It won't happen this decade. A 6,000 lumens projector the size of a suitcase can barely display an image bright enough to be seen in broad daylight at six inches. That concept CG pico projector is more than a joke, it's an insult to the intelligence to everyone who thumbs-upped that video.

Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

2015-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
You want AGM batteries. They generally last longer, and are maintenance free (no water required). They can also handle deeper discharge cycles than everything except lithium. I recently had to get some batteries ASAP, and found what I needed at a local Interstate battery store. We will see

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