Re: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
Because UBNT believes (I didn't say "executes", I said "believes") in strong multi-product integration... aka their monitoring system(s). It drives me nuts as well. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Why, in the year 2017, with the very latest firmware

[AFMUG] market value of a used AF24 link

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
What's the going market value for a used but known good, working, firmware updated AF24 link?

Re: [AFMUG] 7 mile radio link

2017-05-23 Thread Colin Stanners
If the AF3x isn't working well, try the AF2x or a PTP450i 900mhz? On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > Looking for suggestions for a 7 mile, point to point radio link through > some heavy trees (within 500ft on one side). I'm currently using a Ubiquiti

Re: [AFMUG] Need some fiber LC breakout cables overnight

2017-05-23 Thread Colin Stanners
I gotchu fam (if my geography is right) http://www.fiberopticcableproducts.com/fiber_optic_products_files/contact.htm On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Anybody know a west coast source than can still ship these? Need 20 of > these 12 fiber breakouts by

Re: [AFMUG] Need some fiber LC breakout cables overnight

2017-05-23 Thread Trey Scarborough
Sorry didn't read this till now. I have almost that many, but probably not all you need. I would try http://www.galaxyee.com they usually have that stuff in stock at a decent price. On 5/23/2017 4:01 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Anybody know a west coast source than can still ship these? Need 20

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Because Ubiquiti doesn't care. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:56:35 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ubnt

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Because AirOS is only snmpv1 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > We were just talking about that here. The only thing we can figure is that > it is just not

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Bill Prince
We were just talking about that here. The only thing we can figure is that it is just not important to most of their customers. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Why, in the year 2017, with the very latest firmware versions do these > things only speak

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Get as much height as you can on at least one end. As chuck has pointed out, an angle is better than something flat/parallel to the ocean. As much angle in elevation aim on the radios as possible. Of course sometimes this is not possible because the OSI layer 1 cost to achieve additional height

[AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Why, in the year 2017, with the very latest firmware versions do these things only speak SNMPv1 and not v2c? I am in the process of going through the AF5 MIB and snmpwalking an AF5 to build a customer data acquisition template for it, and am truly perplexed.

[AFMUG] Need some fiber LC breakout cables overnight

2017-05-23 Thread Paul McCall
Anybody know a west coast source than can still ship these? Need 20 of these 12 fiber breakouts by tomorrow AM for a big splicing job. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dlawngarden=LC+12+count+pigtail (Bare cable for splicing - to LC) Paul McCall, President PDMNet,

Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, I changed it from BigCommerce (big commissions too) to my own Wordpress/Woo Commerce implementation running on GoDaddy hosting. So repeatedly swinging the DNS between those two may have confused some servers. I hope is will now stay put. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 23,

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Lewis Bergman
The only difference between the menards and the stuff I use is mine is a half inch wider. It is a it easier to use but I don't know if it is worth the extra couple of bucks. I can't find where I saw that 3" stuff at all. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:09 PM George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
TTLs. It just shows you who hasn't been to your site lately. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Thanks everyone. Seems Google DNS is not as monolithic as one would think. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues On 5/23/17 13:11, Chuck McCown wrote: This is the “new and improved”

Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

2017-05-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/23/17 13:11, Chuck McCown wrote: This is the “new and improved” site. I'm seeing the new one in Nevada. I use my own DNS. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Unresponsive PMP450 AP

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I had something very similar to this recently. There ended up being a lot of water in the case. It worked for a short while after drying but eventually died on the bench. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > I have a PMP450 AP that seems ‘deadish’.. any

Re: [AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange

2017-05-23 Thread Louis Arsenault
Coinbase On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Eel skin is my preference. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:11 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange > > having zero interaction with this I'm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Eel skin is my preference. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange having zero interaction with this I'm just curious what are recommended here, not concerned about mining

[AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange

2017-05-23 Thread Steve Jones
having zero interaction with this I'm just curious what are recommended here, not concerned about mining

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread George Skorup
I still use some 4:1 adhesive lined heat-shrink on difficult connectors, like the 3GHz 450 antenna ports because they're so awkwardly close together. But I stopped using it on the radio side because we've had so many 450 APs leak and it's a pain in the ass to take apart. 450i is a different

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, for valley crossings too. You shoot through air layers rather than perhaps skip between them. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean So you are suggesting that an angled path is better than one at level elevation?

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Cameron Crum
So you are suggesting that an angled path is better than one at level elevation? On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > No > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:47 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean > > Did you

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
No From: Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean Did you use any vertical diversity with the antennas? On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have done lots of stuff over the Great Salt Lake.

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Cameron Crum
Did you use any vertical diversity with the antennas? On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have done lots of stuff over the Great Salt Lake. No problems. If you > can get some elevation difference between the two ends it is supposed to > help. You want

[AFMUG] Unresponsive PMP450 AP

2017-05-23 Thread Peter Kranz
I have a PMP450 AP that seems 'deadish'.. any thoughts? I cannot ping it, telnet into it, HTTP into it But the yellow traffic indicator light on the unit blinks It sends out a LLDP_Multicast message every 60 seconds or so with the name on the unit on it I've tried the default cable and

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Bunch of bank terminals to one computer. But it was a network. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax Was that to more than one computer? Was it even called a computer then? Abacus? On

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing infrastructure you put in

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Not that I know of. If I put something on private property, I get an easement from them and record it with the county recorder’s office. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sharing infrastructure you put in Isn't there something

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
I have done lots of stuff over the Great Salt Lake. No problems. If you can get some elevation difference between the two ends it is supposed to help. You want to avoid “specular” reflections. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] uW

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Robert Andrews
Was that to more than one computer? Was it even called a computer then? Abacus? On 05/23/2017 07:54 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: JC Penny protocol over Bell 202 4 wire circuits. 1978 -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing infrastructure you put in

2017-05-23 Thread Chris Fabien
Isn't there something where if you install conduit on someone's private property (like from the road ROW into a building) another provider can cut into your conduit and use it, outside of the public ROW? Thought I read something about that on this list. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Jesse DuPont
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of... I suspect it's just fine, but yeah... $800 experiment. Jesse DuPont Network Architect email:

[AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Cameron Crum
I have about 0 experience doing uW hops over the ocean. Anyone have suggestions on best gear to use for ~12 miles over ocean, 1Gbps links? Wondering which radios hold up the best in that climate...tropics, island hops. I had a client ask so I thought I'd put it out to the borg. Cameron

Re: [AFMUG] malware

2017-05-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yep, that's one of the best attack vectors! - Josh On May 23, 2017 6:26 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Some of them take advantage of vulnerabilities in anti-malware systems so > the user really doesn't have to do anything. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Mathew Howard
There's a pretty good chance you're not going to get a direct answer to the question unless somebody is willing to try it. I couldn't ever find anywhere that UBNT has ever given an official answer to any of their stuff working with anything other than poe pinouts they print on the spec sheets (but

[AFMUG] 7 mile radio link

2017-05-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Looking for suggestions for a 7 mile, point to point radio link through some heavy trees (within 500ft on one side). I'm currently using a Ubiquiti 3.65 radio set and it's working OK... but would like something better. Any thoughts? Travis

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Jesse DuPont
Yeah, I get what you're saying, that's not a bad solution, thanks for suggesting. Jesse DuPont Network Architect email:

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Not sure as to the answer to your question... (I think best place would be the Ubnt forums for this question). Having said that.. the AF11x also has DC power terminal, and the Data Port is different than the POE port.. With and extra cable run, you should be able to power up using the DC

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, only a little bit to keep the end from flapping or adjusting to any other irregularities. It otherwise forms a waterproof bond to itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Nope. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:39:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Jason McKemie
Gotcha, thanks. I assume you also wrap it in electrical tape after the silicon? On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Mike Hammett wrote: > https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-tape/ > gardner-bender-reg-10-l-x-1-w-black-silicone-self-sealing- > tape/p-13100.htm > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-tape/gardner-bender-reg-10-l-x-1-w-black-silicone-self-sealing-tape/p-13100.htm - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Menards is a home improvement chain in the Midwest. I think it's the third largest such chain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Jason McKemie
Know who it is made by? On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Mike Hammett wrote: > I just get mine from Menards. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know what Menards is but I have seen the stuff everywhere. Even hardware stores have it. I just haven't found it cheaper by the foot than Hutton. I did see some 3" wide stuff I was interested in but didn't buy it or try it. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:26 AM Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Lewis Bergman
No. It is a whole different animal. If you haven't tried it you probably should. It sticks to itself, but not much else. Cuts off clean, very stretchy so you can get a tight seal. Very easy to work with. The 3M rubber tape is a lot like mastic in that it evens out a surface. I haven't found it

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I just get mine from Menards. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:49:08 AM Subject:

[AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Jesse DuPont
Good morning. I'm hoping someone already has experience with this. I'm putting up some AF11X links and I want to power them off our 24VDC plant via PoE. I've used the Tycon TP-DCDC-2456G-VHP units before on AF24: they're 24V input, 56V out on all 4 pairs of PoE.

Re: [AFMUG] 48 to 24V Din rail DC-DC

2017-05-23 Thread Carl Peterson
Thanks Josh On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > Traco TCL 060-124DC is what we use. > > > > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Carl Peterson < > cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: > >> Anyone have a source for a DIN mounted 48 to 24V DC-DC converter? Just

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Jason McKemie
Is that like the 3m rubber splicing tape? On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Cold shrink is good. But i am with Mike. We use silicon tape on everything > now. Easier to work with putting on and taking off. Times Microwave WK-S-2 > I think is the part

Re: [AFMUG] 48 to 24V Din rail DC-DC

2017-05-23 Thread Josh Baird
Traco TCL 060-124DC is what we use. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: > Anyone have a source for a DIN mounted 48 to 24V DC-DC converter? Just > powering an ignite ML-19 via a UBNT fiber POE but we have 48V at the > location. > > >

[AFMUG] 48 to 24V Din rail DC-DC

2017-05-23 Thread Carl Peterson
Anyone have a source for a DIN mounted 48 to 24V DC-DC converter? Just powering an ignite ML-19 via a UBNT fiber POE but we have 48V at the location.

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Smoke signals from Chaco Canyon ...zaz On May 23, 2017 8:54 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: JC Penny protocol over Bell 202 4 wire circuits. 1978 -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Colin Stanners
When I started in wireless ~14 years ago, I bought a pair of Aeronet ARLAN 860kbit, 900mhz APs on eBay (630 model), desolded the flash chips, put on firmware for the 640 model to turn them into bridge units, and re-installed the chips in sockets. Those things were so basic and slow - couldn't

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
JC Penny protocol over Bell 202 4 wire circuits. 1978 -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax PrimeOS networking, write your own damn drivers... In Pascal! 1982 On 5/23/17 7:48 AM, Dustin Jurman

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Robert
PrimeOS networking, write your own damn drivers... In Pascal! 1982 On 5/23/17 7:48 AM, Dustin Jurman wrote: FINE! – Thomas Conrad 100mb arcnet. Mike Drop….. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:42 AM *To:* Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Mine, too. Difficult to get these days. Once I touched the 16k Memory extension while programming and everything was gone I upgraded to the spectrum. Much later I got an ZX-80 which is the star of my home-office now. On Tue, 23 May 2017 14:22:15 + "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Dustin Jurman
FINE! – Thomas Conrad 100mb arcnet. Mike Drop….. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:42 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax IBM 5250 emulation Novell cards in IBM XT PC over WaveLAN 900 MHz link

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
IBM 5250 emulation Novell cards in IBM XT PC over WaveLAN 900 MHz link for Cal TV...3 miles .. July 1992... On May 23, 2017 8:31 AM, "Dustin Jurman" wrote: > Better hit the mark on that thicknet with a Vampire Tap or you’ll get some > reflections. Since you said Vampire Tap

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Mathew Howard
We're talking point to point links here though... B5 lites would be what you would want to look at in the Mimosa line. All things considered, I think I would probably use something in the UBNT AC line... probably the ISO stations, or whatever I happen to have sitting on the shelf. A pair of Force

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Used lots of ‘em. They were made not too far from where I sit today. From: Dustin Jurman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax Better hit the mark on that thicknet with a Vampire Tap or you’ll get some reflections. Since you said

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Dustin Jurman
Better hit the mark on that thicknet with a Vampire Tap or you’ll get some reflections. Since you said Vampire Tap I’m going to counter with NE2000. DSJ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
we did a LANtastic telephone link over a 900MHz WaveLAN link at trade show in mid 1990'sgot ohhs and ahsthe cat's pajamas... Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > That stuff was magic. I remember

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Ron M.
Yeah, I ran ArcNet between my BBS computer and the NetwareLite file server (which had the pair of 120MB RLL, Seagate ST4144R drives) for the extra disk space... don't want to think how long ago that was now. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
That stuff was magic. I remember the remote desktop function in LANtastic. First time you started messing with someone was quite a hoot. I remember avoiding TCP/IP as a network protocol because it looked “too hard”. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:24 AM To: Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Dave
I think there is a X.25 in there some where On 05/23/2017 09:24 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: ArcNet,Token Ring, LANtastic..my memory is foggy..cough cough Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Dustin Jurman

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
ArcNet,Token Ring, LANtastic..my memory is foggy..cough cough Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Dustin Jurman wrote: > Those were the good old days when the only tools you needed was a t > connector and a 50 ohm terminator.

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Vampire tap. From: Dustin Jurman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax Those were the good old days when the only tools you needed was a t connector and a 50 ohm terminator. J DSJ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
My second. (If you don’t count the analog one I built in 1971) From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF Ahhh the great memories... That was my first computer ! Faisal Imtiaz

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Dustin Jurman
Those were the good old days when the only tools you needed was a t connector and a 50 ohm terminator. ☺ DSJ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ron M. Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Ahhh the great memories... That was my first computer ! Faisal Imtiaz > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:15:05 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF > Timex Sinclair ZX81 > From: Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
i have a ptp using Force 180 -s with a 60Mbps feed and pushes all of it across to other side easily for an RFID system used at detention facilty. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Been a few years since

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Timex Sinclair ZX81 From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF Don't use a Newton to admin it? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Don't use a Newton to admin it? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:10:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet over coax

2017-05-23 Thread Ron M.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE2 Been there, done that? On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: > Hi folks, > > It's that time again - looking for brave, er I mean beta users for an > ethernet over coax system. The same one could be used for phone

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Been a few years since I used ePMP anything. The UI used to be dreadfully slow. From: Dave Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF +1 On 05/22/2017 03:22 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: The power requirement is going to limit you to

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Dave
Boom drop the mic! On 05/23/2017 07:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: One vote for Force180 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 23, 2017 8:21 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Dave
+1 On 05/22/2017 03:22 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: The power requirement is going to limit you to wifi type stuff I think. ePMP in PTP mode. You can get the itty bitty Force180 for $85 each and in PTP mode at that range you'll have somewhere near 200mbps aggregate. I'm sure there are half a

[AFMUG] 5' outdoor cat5 jumpers

2017-05-23 Thread Jon Langeler
And good cheap places to buy them? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Lewis Bergman
Cold shrink is good. But i am with Mike. We use silicon tape on everything now. Easier to work with putting on and taking off. Times Microwave WK-S-2 I think is the part number we order. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:28 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > What about silicon tape? > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Adam Moffett
200mbps aggregate on a 40mhz channel. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/23/2017 9:32:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF What kind of throughput do you get with those? From:Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
What kind of throughput do you get with those? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF One vote for Force180 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 23,

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Same as any other ePMP, IIRC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:32:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing infrastructure you put in

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Good point, being a CLEC may open the door to unwanted sharing. From: Trey Scarborough Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sharing infrastructure you put in Typically no you shouldn't have to share, but it could be a requirement in some instances to

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Josh Luthman
One vote for Force180 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 23, 2017 8:21 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > FWIW.. the situation described is the exact scenario for a Micro-POP. > > There are a number of

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
FWIW.. the situation described is the exact scenario for a Micro-POP. There are a number of folks who are currently doing such a setup with 60ghz or 24ghz as backhaul and Mimosa A5's for 5ghz PTMP... expected thruput is between 150meg to 300meg easily. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
What about silicon tape? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:10:38 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] malware

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Some of them take advantage of vulnerabilities in anti-malware systems so the user really doesn't have to do anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds"

Re: [AFMUG] malware

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
" are humans retarded? " Yes. I have an enterprise client that has been bitten multiple times from viruses that wouldn't have happened if they were patched. They still can't figure out how to patch their systems. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

2017-05-23 Thread Harold Bledsoe
How about 60ghz to the first house and 5ghz to the second house and run Trill to create a ring? Does using multiple new technologies instead of just one make it seem less risky?  Hal On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:47 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Scared of new technology. > Seems a

Re: [AFMUG] So pretty

2017-05-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Why so many Power Supplies? It seems you are better of with a rectifier shelf From: Af > on behalf of Adam Moffett > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] malware

2017-05-23 Thread Steve Jones
lol, my gmail is on like 7 the Hotmail is on rivercity, On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:18 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > https://haveibeenpwned.com > > - Josh > > On May 23, 2017 1:04 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > >> I have had the same Hotmail password for

Re: [AFMUG] malware

2017-05-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
https://haveibeenpwned.com - Josh On May 23, 2017 1:04 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > I have had the same Hotmail password for 23 years, that account has become > the primary Microsoft account, ive changed it two times, back to the > original in that time. > > Its really

Re: [AFMUG] malware

2017-05-23 Thread Steve Jones
I have had the same Hotmail password for 23 years, that account has become the primary Microsoft account, ive changed it two times, back to the original in that time. Its really not that hard to be safe, I'm not very diligent. Its very hard to give up your info, yet people do and the media makes