Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-11-29 Thread Matt
They can be PTP as well. On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Thanks!!! > > Jaime Solorza > > On Nov 29, 2017 4:44 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: >> >> The i is for industrial (it’s rated to be installed in hazardous locations >> etc)

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-11-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
Thanks!!! Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2017 4:44 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > The i is for industrial (it’s rated to be installed in hazardous locations > etc) > > They come connectorized or integrated. > > -Sean > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:37 PM Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-11-29 Thread Sean Heskett
The i is for industrial (it’s rated to be installed in hazardous locations etc) They come connectorized or integrated. -Sean On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:37 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Yes. The i is (I think) for integrated > > -bp > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-11-29 Thread Bill Prince
Yes. The i is (I think) for integrated -bp -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Are these ptmp? > > > > Jaime Solorza >

[AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-11-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
Are these ptmp? Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-21 Thread George Skorup
5 *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Hopkins *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Yes. Matt Hopkins Network Administrator 503.687.1030 supp...@onlinenw.com <mailto:supp...@onlinenw.com> onlinenw.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-21 Thread David Coudron
half Of Matt Hopkins Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Yes. [cid:image011.png@01D2BA82.FF7331E0] Matt Hopkins Network Administrator 503.687.1030 supp...@onlinenw.com<mailto:supp...@onlinenw.com> onlinenw.com<http://onlinenw.com>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-21 Thread Dave
sp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:31:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged i

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
April 20, 2017 9:31:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged in gmail on the list? On Apr 20, 2017 8:55 PM, "Jon Langeler" < jon-ispli...@michwave.net > wrote: I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically p

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Steve Jones
Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged in gmail on the list? On Apr 20, 2017 8:55 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically problem > free vs the new and more expensive case. I like the new standard SM cases >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Jon Langeler
I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically problem free vs the new and more expensive case. I like the new standard SM cases though. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Apr 20, 2017, at 8:54 PM, David Milholen wrote: > > I dont want cheap..

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread David Milholen
I dont want cheap.. I want security,reliability mil spec design so I can sleep at night. Keeps others in my area from popping up with some cheap "WifI' stuff put lightly and raising the noise floor and baffling with BS. I should DUCK! On 4/20/2017 3:03 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: I'm not sure

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Matt Hopkins
Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a product flaw, but they do tend to ultimately make things right, even on out of warranty products. i think it may depend on

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Jon Langeler
I'm not sure why cambium moves to a more expensive design when everyone wants it to be cheaper. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Dave wrote: > > I have 2 in route to them for inspection.. > > >> On 04/19/2017 07:11 PM, George

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread George Skorup
onlinenw.com <http://onlinenw.com> On 4/20/2017 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists... *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a p

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Matt Hopkins
ttp://onlinenw.com> On 4/20/2017 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists... *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a product flaw, but t

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists... From: Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a product flaw, but they do tend to ultimately make things right, even on out

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Steve Jones
-- > From: "Roland Houin" <rho...@fourway.net> > To: "afmug" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 4/20/2017 10:55:34 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too. > it was in warranty, > at first they didn't want

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Adam Moffett
quot; <rho...@fourway.net> To: "afmug" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 4/20/2017 10:55:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too. it was in warranty, at first they didn't want to cover under warranty, (said we didn't weatherseal the connectors). aft

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-20 Thread Roland Houin
we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too. it was in warranty, at first they didn't want to cover under warranty, (said we didn't weatherseal the connectors). after a bit of complaining they did cover it.   Roland       > We too had a similar issue. 450AP full of water. We took it apart and

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2017-04-19 Thread Tushar Patel
Oh wow. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, we will have to inspect the ones we have in our office. Tushar > On Apr 19, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote: > > We had one of many 450i up on a tower for a little over a year and one > day it was just

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

2016-04-05 Thread Matt
> Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i? Turns out you pull power for a second then restore it quickly. Log into 169.254.1.1 within 30 seconds and select default mode.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

2016-04-05 Thread Sean Heskett
Nope but it's probably in the manual ;) -Sean On Tuesday, April 5, 2016, Matt wrote: > Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i? >

[AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

2016-04-05 Thread Matt
Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-24 Thread Chuck McCown
lto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Dude, there's interference everywhere in the 900 band. Cordless phones, baby monitors, security systems, smart meters, SCADA.. and the lis

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:40 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > Dude, there's interference everywhere in the 900 band. Cordless phones, > baby monitors, security systems, smart meters, SCADA.. and the list goes on. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-24 Thread Rory Conaway
Unless Yogi Bear is monitoring BooBoo with a baby monitor, in this particular location, I think I’m okay. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Dude, there's interference

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-24 Thread George Skorup
I’ll have interference issues from other sources. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you do 6 sectors, you're using the entire band and have nowhere

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-24 Thread Mathew Howard
*On Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:29 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > If you do 6 sectors, you're using the entire band and have nowhere to go > when one or two sectors is experiencing interference. Or y

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-24 Thread Rory Conaway
: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you do 6 sectors, you're using the entire band and have nowhere to go when one or two sectors is experiencing interference. Or you have to drop down to 5MHz channel bandwidth which sucks. This is why we do 4x90 clusters. Two channels with wiggle room. Of course that's FSK's

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread George Skorup
in throughput per antenna and what kind of throughput to expect with GPS. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you guys are talking about the 900mhz 450i 65

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread George Skorup
. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:08 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Well, if you want small... there's these, I'm not sure I'd want to try doing channel re-use with them though. http://itelite.net/en

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
enna and what kind of >>> throughput to expect with GPS. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Rory Conaway
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Well, if you want small... there's these, I'm not sure I'd want to try doing channel re-use with them though. http://itelite.net/en/Katalog/900-MHz//SEC-XL0911DP.html<http://itelite.net/en/Katalog/900-MHz/SEC-XL0911DP.html> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard
hroughput to expect with GPS. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFM

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
roughput to expect with GPS. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > If you guys are

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Rory Conaway
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you guys are talking about the 900mhz 450i 65 degree. Straight from the horse’s mouth is the 65 and the 90 are the same antenna. Just more role off to achieve the 90. I have tested it outside of the 65 degree but within the 90. I was not happy

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
ug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i There's an OEM 90*... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 23, 2016 11:06 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r..

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard
If I remember correctly, it's 65 at -3dB, so it's basically what is usually sold as a 90 degree these days (-6dB). On Mar 23, 2016 10:10 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > There's an OEM 90*... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Josh Luthman
There's an OEM 90*... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 23, 2016 11:06 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > I looked at the 450i and noticed the sector antenna is 65 degrees. Does > that mean a typical tower

[AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2016-03-23 Thread Rory Conaway
I looked at the 450i and noticed the sector antenna is 65 degrees. Does that mean a typical tower installation uses 6 antennas? In that scenario, I'm assuming 10MHz channels if there is no interference. In that scenario, what is the available bandwidth per AP assuming most users get pretty

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-18 Thread Josh Luthman
ote: >>> >>>> Until customers complain their stuff doesn't work, a lot of cheap >>>> laptops, tablets and many low to mid range android phones are 2.4 only. >>>> On Feb 17, 2016 4:55 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-18 Thread David
Of *Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame houses/other structures, it helps a

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-18 Thread David
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical envi

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread George Skorup
;javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com');> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Sean Heskett
ksllc.com');> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left > and blind in one eye. S

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread George Skorup
uthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. J

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Bill Prince
ay, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Josh Luthman
gt; > Very poetic. > > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread George Skorup
+1 Almost Steve Jones quality. :) On 2/17/2016 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Very poetic. *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Very poetic. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Josh Luthman
gt; 2.4GHz where possible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread George Skorup
mug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame houses/other structures, it h

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread David Milholen
a collaboration feature should make them play nice, not fight to the death. *From:* Rory Conaway <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:16 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I understand guys. I’ll

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Josh Luthman
id >>>> 2.4GHz where possible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread David Milholen
y *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical environment with wood

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Josh Luthman
; them play nice, not fight to the death. > > > *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > I understand guys. I’ll work it out when I figure out wh

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
make them play nice, not fight to the death. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I understand guys. I’ll work it out when I figure out what my radios are. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Josh Luthman
; >>> If I do this, I’ll probably use 5Ghz for the indoor devices to avoid >>> 2.4GHz where possible. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke >&g

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread David Milholen
e *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame houses/other structures, it hel

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread David Milholen
mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is ~8.33cm (~3 1/4 inch). Ponderosa pine needles (and many other pine needles) are around the same 3 1/4 inch length https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa s

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
I understand guys. I’ll work it out when I figure out what my radios are. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Also trying to get a good signal in the far reaches

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread David Milholen
the houses. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree nearby and an ohm meter, measure

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Also trying to get a good signal in the far reaches of some houses can be a lot more challenging at 5 GHz than 2.4 GHz. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Until customers complain their stuff doesn't work

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Sean Heskett
Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Eric >> Kuhnke >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
void > 2.4GHz where possible. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > > I sh

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
If I do this, I’ll probably use 5Ghz for the indoor devices to avoid 2.4GHz where possible. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
y" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > I may set up a test for this in couple weeks. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:41 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* R

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
I may set up a test for this in couple weeks. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz 2.4 in 10 MHz channels goes through a decent amount of trees within 1-2 miles

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
dwireless.net> > wrote: > >> So given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better? I can use 5GHz inside >> the houses. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Bill Prince
<mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree nearby and an ohm meter, measure the resistance of the needle. Make sure you jam the probe into the interior of

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread timothy steele
o given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better? I can use 5GHz inside >>> the houses. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>> *Sent:* Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Sean Heskett
> houses. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > > I have not measured one, but if s

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2016-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
So given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better? I can use 5GHz inside the houses. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I have not measured one, but if someone

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Chuck McCown
absorbing foam on some of their surfaces that operate by similar principles. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is ~8.33cm (~3 1/4 inch). Ponderosa

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
I like yagisand Miyagi as well On Feb 17, 2016 2:52 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Those are the worst for 900. > > *From:* Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:45 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *S

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Chuck McCown
yet... stay tuned... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz There isn't a good antenna option that's any less gain than the 12dbi yagis at this point anyway... there are some 10db panels out there, but nothing that's

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Those are the worst for 900. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Those look like ponderosa trees to me. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: How about co

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Mathew Howard
om:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > > those are the worst kind of trees for 900Mhz because the pine needles are > very similar to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Sean Heskett
; wrote: >> >>> Ponderosa? Fir? Cedar? >>> >>> The length of the needles matter. >>> >>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Sean Heskett
h...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Ponderosa? Fir? Cedar? >> >> The length of the needles matter. >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Camb

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread David
.net> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of trees? *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO* *4226 S. 37^th Str

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2016-02-17 Thread David
About 40W Eirp :) On 02/17/2016 01:51 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of trees? *Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO* *4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040* *602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net

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2016-02-17 Thread Jon Langeler
I'd estimate .25-.5mi if your tower is 30ft above the tree line. 1 mile of your 100ft higher. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > > Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of trees?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Sam Lambie
rom:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of > trees? > > > > > > *Rory Conaway *

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Sam Lambie
Those look like ponderosa trees to me. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > How about compared to the legacy 900Mhz product how does it perform? > > Sean Heskett wrote: > >> those are the worst kind of trees for 900Mhz because the pine needles are >>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Jay Weekley
How about compared to the legacy 900Mhz product how does it perform? Sean Heskett wrote: those are the worst kind of trees for 900Mhz because the pine needles are very similar to the wave length. i'd guess you could still go a mile or two if the noise floor is decent (pine trees will

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
Good question. I’ll have to ask. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Ponderosa? Fir? Cedar? The length of the needles matter. From: Rory Conaway<mailt

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

2016-02-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Ponderosa? Fir? Cedar? The length of the needles matter. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of trees? Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless

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2016-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
Can’t go above, park land. A mile would actually be fine if that’s the case. Are Yagi’s necessary for that distance? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

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2016-02-17 Thread Sean Heskett
those are the worst kind of trees for 900Mhz because the pine needles are very similar to the wave length. i'd guess you could still go a mile or two if the noise floor is decent (pine trees will probably help the noise floor ;) if you can get up high above the trees then the path thru the trees

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-11-25 Thread Aaron Schneider
om<mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:37 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>&

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-11-25 Thread Eric Muehleisen
ly-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Date: Monday, November 23, 2015 at 4:44 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > correct. from the 14.1.1(build8) release notes: > > >- PMP 450i APs Interoperate with

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-11-23 Thread Sam Lambie
84> > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 6, 2015 2:12 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > Just going off what the webinar/demo customer said the 450i AP simply > improves things as

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-11-23 Thread Sean Heskett
you, >> >> Daniel White >> afmu...@gmail.com >> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 >> Skype: danieldwhite >> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-10-07 Thread Joe Falaschi
t; Social: LinkedIn: Twitter > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 2:12 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > Just going off what the webinar/demo customer said the 450i AP simply > i

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-10-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
these for. Like that tool you see in a catalog and wonder what it’s good for until you see someone else using it for something and go wow, I’ve got to get me one of those. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Some people have

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-10-06 Thread Daniel White
6-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-10-06 Thread Josh Luthman
else using it for something > and go wow, I’ve got to get me one of those. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > Some people have. Not

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